September 20, 2024 • 46 mins
Ever wondered how to juggle family life, professional duties, and a hurricane? That's our life recently! Join us as we reconnect after a long hiatus filled with illness, school challenges, and a natural disaster. You'll hear all about our chaotic start to the school year, the hurdles we've faced, and our excitement about starting a Dungeons & Dragons campaign with colleagues for some much-needed therapeutic fun. Our kids' antics and the introduction of a token economy system in the classroom are just a few highlights you'll enjoy.
Being part of a community-focused program is incredibly rewarding, and we share our personal experiences of integrating family life with professional responsibilities. From attending a D1 football game to supporting students at their internship open houses, we discuss the importance of balancing these roles. Managing client schedules, especially with unexpected rescheduling and the need for clear communication, is a recurring theme. We also explore the humorous dynamics of sibling relationships and celebrate the growth of our children.
Let's get real about the emotional residue left in therapy rooms. We dive into the complexities of maintaining long-term client relationships and the necessity of setting boundaries. Have you ever pondered whether a room absorbs the emotions of its occupants? We have, and we discuss everything from using collected client tears as a purifying ritual to naming air fresheners "Unmet Expectations." Plus, we share a laugh over the idea of adult diapers like Depends for those challenging days, emphasizing the importance of being non-judgmental and meeting people where they are. Tune in for a candid, humorous, and heartfelt conversation that promises to leave you both entertained and reflective.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
all right, man, we back bro, we back man, welcome,
welcome to another cast, man, itfeels like it's been forever,
because it it has been forever.
Man, let's do, let's do alittle bit of check-ins and then
, uh, we do a little topic andthen some checkouts.
Man, cheaper, what?
Uh, what's been going on foryou?
(00:39):
Hey, man, so y'all notice we'vebeen gone.
That's our fault.
Yeah, we've been gone.
Yeah, look we.
And we've heard it.
We've.
We've heard, we've heard fromthe people yeah, y'all can stop
you, cut it out.
Yeah, we had enough.
Yeah, we heard we got lives.
Yeah, when are y'all comingback?
Is the podcast over?
(01:00):
I mean, y'all said y'all wasgonna not say nothing.
When y'all said y'all was goingto not say nothing, when y'all
stopped, y'all really didn't saynothing.
Wow, I feel abused, I feelabandoned.
Nah, man, we've been sick.
We've been sick that's anupdate, not just us Started the
start of school a couple sixweeks in.
I don't know about your house,but my house has been toxic.
(01:24):
Oh yeah, toxic man, absolutelytoxic.
Yeah, terrible, terrible.
It's just been running throughthe house, man, and so y'all.
We tried to do this cast so manytimes, but each time it'd be
like, hey, man, you ready tostart?
Nah, man, my kid just threw up.
Nah, man, my kid's in thetoilet right now.
(01:44):
Nah, man, I just threw up.
Yeah, man, it is what it is,man.
But we also had, we hadhurricane francine sweep through
, uh, south louisiana too.
Uh, yeah, two weeks ago, yeah,yeah.
So you know, we all fine, butlike, yeah, that that happened
too, man, it's been, it's been ahell of a couple weeks here,
(02:04):
man.
But we're back.
We're going to try to be alittle bit more consistent.
You know, it's Jude, jude's theproblem, but you know, I'm here,
I'm a busy boy, I'm a busy,busy boy.
He's pressed for time, he'spressed for time, anyway, man.
So, hey, real quick Update,real quick Update Up, real quick
Update, real quick UpdateUpdates.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
What you got going on, bro?
(02:24):
Oh, I started a D&D campaign.
Okay, you know, with a trustedcolleague.
Uh-huh, you know, trustedcolleague.
Uh-huh, they got you.
Huh, it's fire.
When I tell you, what have Ibeen doing with my life?
Uh-huh, I'm in, I'm in there,I'm in.
(02:48):
What's your character?
What's your?
I don't, I can't, I can'tbecause there's too many layers
to it.
Okay, you know and so, but thatmy simple mind wouldn't be able
to comprehend.
No, I just know that some ofthe, I just know that some of
the other players also listen tothe okay, and there's some
things I I can't reveal rightnow, as it's too, it's muy
importante, okay, si, si, si, siyou know, and so I can't
(03:09):
because it'll ruin, you know,the future of the campaign and I
want to, you know.
But no, seriously, it's fun, man, and you know what else, dog,
it's really good for us toexperience it as, like, faculty,
you know, and that's why soy'all are doing it as a whole.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody,the whole faculty, everybody,
part of the campaign.
Yeah, who's running thecampaign?
(03:29):
Like, who's running the?
The uh, student, joe, oh, astudent, okay, yeah, uh-huh,
yeah, yeah, yeah, past studentwho's a two's a dungeon master.
He's been doing it for years.
He's amazing, yeah, he'samazing man and uh and uh, just,
I mean it's so visceral.
You know what I mean.
Anyway, it's really good,because I don't know if you saw,
I don't know if you read TimeMagazine.
I know you're a little uncouthand uncultured, so you probably
(03:51):
don't, but listen if you get achance.
Does it have pictures?
It does have pictures.
I think I've done through it.
It does have pictures foryourself, but I don't know if
you get a chance read it,because there was an article in
there that kind of talked aboutD&D as a therapeutic method.
You remember we went to thatconference that talked about it,
(04:12):
for like it was like a six hourD&D, like a presentation on how
to use it for therapy, and sothere's not trainings around
here and so us going through it,it's perfect because, like it's
just happening, it's justhappening around in the
community and a lot of ourstudents want to use it as a
therapeutic method.
So we were like, let's do it,let's just let's try it out to
(04:32):
see.
You know what we're doing, yeah, you know.
So, anyway, that's somethingfor me.
Kids are doing good.
Um, you know, people have beentelling me how funny the stories
are.
You know it.
You know they're.
They're doing regular kidsstuff.
Yeah, yeah, you know like, uh,class is going good,
everything's going.
We did start the token economy,okay, with the kids.
(04:54):
I don't know if y'all do that,man, yeah, yeah, but you get
stars, you know, for things thatyou're doing, you know, and but
when I tell you I I don't evenactually care if they do the
stuff to get the stars right.
I just, I just want them to goabout their day thinking about
doing the stuff to get the starsright.
Right, you know, and if itstops one behavior I'm fine.
(05:19):
Yeah, you know, and I'd be sopassive, aggressive with them.
You know, like something willhappen and they'll be like oh,
hold on, let me go check.
Let me go check the fridge andsee, because I think sharing is
one of the things you can get asticker for.
I think I recall sharing as oneof the I don't know, like, do
(05:42):
y'all remember which one it was?
Let me go check.
Yep, yeah, yeah, but look, so Iguess you have to make a choice
now, like is not sharing worthnot getting the star?
Uh-huh, or what I don't know.
Let me know when you make adecision Wow, that's crazy man.
You know.
Wow, it's perfect man.
Yeah, yeah, it's perfect man,yeah, it's perfect.
(06:03):
You know, see, in our house ismore or less like give your
sister the damn toy.
What's wrong with you?
Whoa, that's how you talk toyou.
Yeah, that's, that's more Iknew.
Let me call them people.
Hold on, let me call thempeople.
Let me listen.
Hey, listen, I need you to lookat me.
No, no, look at my eyes.
Look at my eyes.
Hey, if you don't share this toywith your sister, I'm throwing
away all of your toys.
(06:24):
Nobody's playing with toys.
You're not even going to seeanything in this house that
starts with the letter t.
You ain't, you're not.
Play is even going to beremoved if you don't know.
Toilet paper, no, nothing,nothing, man.
Trash cans.
You don't have trash piling upin your room.
That's it.
(06:47):
All I'm trying to do is sit downwith my coffee and enjoy the
morning.
Enjoy the morning.
Y'all been up since fouro'clock in the morning.
Why aren't y'all tired For real?
Anyway, man, any updates fromyou, man?
Hey, man, I started at theUniversity of Louisiana and it
couldn't be sweeter, couldn't besweeter, huh, it just couldn't
(07:10):
be sweeter.
Couldn't be sweeter?
The crawfish tails and thecrawfish buffet.
You know what?
You know what, bro?
So one of my students mentionedthat they found the cast.
So if I got any students fromyou all listening, make sure
y'all turning your homework ontime, or everybody's getting an
F, everybody's getting an F.
And if I see y'all playingaround in the clinic, I'm
(07:32):
reporting y'all.
I'm reporting y'all.
Sure, like the program is dope,students are dope, you know like
it's.
You know it's really good to bea part of it.
Program is dope, students aredope.
You know like it's, you knowit's really good to be a part of
it.
But, like, one of the real coolthings is that I'm taking my
kids to a football game thisweekend.
You know, like, just taking thekids to a football game, yeah,
(07:54):
you have the option to do thatand it's D1.
The option to do that, just theoption to do that.
You know, yeah, man, it's justyeah, it's nice, man, it's nice.
And plus, like I've got areally good program director who
like really honors, like family, and like really honors, like
being protective of like ourschedule.
You know just, you know it'smore than I could ask for.
(08:14):
So it's like a communityprogram, exactly, yeah, yeah,
you know you see people aroundthe community Like I'm, I coach.
I coach Cairo soccer team andCairo State.
Later, after soccer practice,just, you know him and a kid was
kicking around, the mom cameover and the mom was like, oh,
what do you do?
And I told him she was like Igraduated from that program,
(08:36):
like you know, 10 years ago.
I was like, oh, are youpracticing?
She was like no, I have amassage there.
I'm a massage therapist andhave a business in the community
, you know, and I was like oh,that's that's so.
Like how long have you?
We just had like a conversationabout that.
It's just, it's good to be apart of, it's good to be a part
of.
The students are like livingamong you in the community.
(08:59):
The program is of the community.
You know, like it's of thecommunity that I'm actually, you
know.
So, no, no, disrespect to anyother programs that I've worked
at, it's just like that's that'skind of what I was looking for
at this phase of my life, youknow.
So it hits different.
It hits different when you knowlike it's you know dog, like it
hits different when you knowthat the, that the students
(09:19):
you're training, couldpotentially work with a friend.
Yeah, like partner, yeah, yeah,yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, or something as simple aslike man, it's the student, the
student of color, asked me togo to her uh, her, um,
internship sites open house.
You know it's on a friday inthe middle of the day.
Like I can do that, like I canlike go to that open house
(09:44):
before I go pick up the kidsfrom school.
You know like pop in, say hey,make sure the student knows that
, like they're supported, andthen pop out.
You know, like I've neverreally been able to do that
before, you know, so, yeah, sothat's cool.
Kids are good man.
Just, you know, just justgrowing, bro, just just
absolutely growing.
(10:15):
We just found out that our soKofi, our one-year-old, weighs
more than Roby, ourfive-year-old.
He weighs more than ourfive-year-old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't knowwhich one is worse.
Yeah, you know, all I'm hearingis neglect.
Yeah, that know.
Uh-huh, all I'm hearing isneglect.
Yeah, yeah, that's all I'mhearing.
Mm-hmm, well, you wouldn't seethat if you would see how she
body slams him.
Yeah, even though he weighsmore, he's still a little light
(10:35):
in the ass to be tussling withher in the sunroom.
You know, he's still a littlelight in the ass.
Oh, a little light now.
Anyway, yeah, that's yeah bro,yeah, man, yeah, so, all right
topic.
You got something just right offthe right off the back.
No, I got nothing, because I do.
No, I got nothing, I've justbeen, I've just been swimming,
swimming, just sitting here.
(10:56):
You know, just, just, don'tmind me, don't mind me, I'm just
trying to trying to keep awhole program afloat, you know,
nah, bro, I'm joking, bro, it'sbeen, it's been fine, bro, what
you got.
All right, all right, all right.
So I got a couple things allright, so that one, thank you.
So, hey, do you find that when,a when a client like uh, misses
(12:42):
a session or like, has toreschedule, do you find that,
like, it's really hard for themto get back on your schedule?
Bruh, bruh, like I feelterrible about that stuff, man.
I feel terrible when, when,like I have to reschedule
because I'm like shufflingaround stuff to like try to get
(13:04):
them on my schedule.
You know, know all this stuff.
But when a client misses, like,when a client's like oh yeah,
we're going to need them thistime, something came up, or
whatever, you know, yeah, it'slike, oh man, like I, I don't
know when I'm going to havespace on my schedule to see you
again.
Like I, just, I just don't know, you know.
(13:25):
And then, like, I have to, likeI deal with it is a strong word
, but like it's, it's present inmy relationship with the client
in the next session.
Well, what do you do you let?
Do you let your clients knowthat that, like this isn't your
job?
You know what I mean like, yeah, like it's like your job, but
(13:48):
it's like it's not all you do.
Like do your clients know?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I let.
I let my clients know that like,hey, man, my schedule gets like
super packed, you know.
So it's really important for usto find like a consistent day
and time to meet, you know, andlike, if you have to miss
consistent day and time to meet,you know, and like, if you have
to miss that day and time,let's just miss the whole week
(14:09):
and see each other the followingweek.
You know, because, like, myschedule is like my schedule is
packed, packed, packed, packed,packed.
You know, not like I'm soimportant or whatever, but it's
just like nah, man, I got to,it's just stuff.
You got to do.
I got to, you know, got to pickup the kids.
We got soccer practice, we gotflag football practice, I got
supervision.
Just life, just life Stuff.
(14:30):
Like that happens, yeah, justlife stuff.
But it's super hard especiallyif you're in private practice
I'll just say it for me Tomanage the money, manage the
schedule, manage therescheduling and manage the
therapeutic relationship.
(14:51):
Dog, that's dog.
At what point do you call it?
You know what I mean.
At what point are you like,actually, these clients would be
better off served by, like abetter therapist?
No, I feel that way.
I feel that way More like, justlike a more competent therapist
(15:12):
.
You know one who is licensed inmultiple states?
Okay, one who offers virtualphone therapy.
You know one who you know maylook like you, you know, but
it's definitely better lookingthan you.
Okay, you know, like at whatpoint do you, what point do you
send them home?
(15:33):
Yeah, you know, what point doyou send them?
You know what I mean.
Like at what point do you haveto answer that question for
yourself of like, am I supposedto be here, or is there not
already a better version of methat exists?
Let's wrap it up.
Uh-huh, yep, let's close it outhere.
(15:53):
Let's see the dismount.
Let's see the dismount.
I'm just asking, let's see itFrom an ethical perspective.
And here it comes, ladies andgentlemen, here's the dismount
From an ethical perspective.
Yep, here it comes, ladies andgentlemen, here's a dismount
From an ethical perspective.
When do you do no harm?
Okay, yep, there we go.
And we made it, we got it.
(16:13):
Where is the?
No, we're here.
No, we're there.
Where's the Maleficent no, no,no, no, we're gone?
No, because, see you, see, yourLouisiana accent is coming out
and you're about to startgetting to some of these words
that you can't really pronounce.
You're right, because I wasabout to say the B word.
What's the word?
What is it?
(16:34):
You're about to start talkingabout Disney characters.
No, yeah, you're about to getinto the monophilates.
The benedeficence, thebenediction, For real, what is
it?
The Eucharist, what is it,though?
(16:57):
Melbeneficence, melfeces,melfeces, benvenedidi,
benvenedidi, benvena.
We almost made it, but then yep, man, I was close, though the
accent will change.
(17:17):
That country ass will come out.
That Karen Crow Appaloosas willcome out.
Yeah, you can't even finish thewords.
You knew where I was going to.
I was trying to get there, man,but hey, man, alright, well,
you know what I be.
You know the B word I'm talkingabout.
Hey, man, listen.
(17:37):
You know, at some point, though, you do have to call it.
Hey, at some point, you do haveto call it, man, you do.
You have to look at yourselfmaybe it's not the right time
cold, hard in the mirror and sayI don't, I don't have enough
time, time maybe, these clients?
Yeah, I just don't have enoughtime.
(17:57):
You know it's a hard, though,man.
It's a hard conversation, man.
Look man, I had.
I had a um student of mine Ithink it was a student or maybe
it was a client or I don'tremember.
Something happened to thetherapist, like I think they I
think it was traumatic likesomebody passed away, somebody
died and they immediately had tojust transfer their clients.
(18:18):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Like, as hard as it is, theyjust had to transfer their
client.
But that's a hard, that's ahard decision, dog, because like
, if you're like me, the clientdog, the clients that I have are
right or die.
Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
Like we've been working togetherfor a while, like a lot of
progress, but also like a lot oflife together.
(18:39):
You know what I mean.
I've been working with some ofthese clients before I had kids,
yeah, you know.
You know what I think is thebenefit of them, but it's
actually hurting them becauseI'm not letting them go.
(19:03):
Yeah, yeah, that like when youdo life with a client in that
way, like sometimes you havemoments where like we're in a
lull, where like nothing'sreally happened, yeah, and
you're like you're prettyhealthy.
You know, man, it's like theminute you say, all right, I
think we can start like, maybeseeing each other once a month,
(19:24):
you know, maybe seeing eachother like once every three
months.
You know, whatever, like man,something happens where, like
you know, hey, like my husbandcheated, or you know, whatever
like man, something happenswhere, like you know, hey, like
my husband cheated, or, yeah,you know, something pulls them
yeah, my kid, whatever you know,and like something kind of
brings them back into wherethey're like, yeah, I think I'm
gonna need a little bit moreconsistency with therapy, you
know, um, and, and that's good,that's good, that's perfect,
(19:48):
yeah, that's perfect, yeah, butto me it's the, it's, you know,
and having to ask, having toanswer that question for
yourself of, like you know, howmany times can I reschedule, how
many times can I be like, ohnah, like, tuesdays at two don't
work.
Oh man, thursdays at one don'twork.
Yeah, you know, like the onlytime I can meet is Sunday at
(20:10):
three 30 in the afternoon.
It's like, come on, man, like,but why are you doing this to
clients?
Yeah, man, yeah, all right, allright, all right.
So let me, let me transitionthis to like the next thing.
All right, cause I want to makesure that, like, we were good
on time, cause it's going to bea quick one, cause we got kids
breathing out our necks rightnow, breathing out our necks
(20:31):
right now to come downstairs andbe with them.
I don't know why you got to bewith your family.
I blame gentle parenting.
Oh man, I blame gentleparenting.
Yeah, man, yeah, anyway, anyway, all right.
So, thank you.
(21:45):
Hey, was there a moment, maybethis week or last week?
All right, right.
So do you want me to do thereport now or do you want me to
do the report later?
What were you going to say?
No, don't worry about what Iwas going to say.
No, you already confessed.
So I got him y'all.
Yeah, we got him.
We got him.
(22:06):
We've been working on this fora really long time.
We got him.
Yeah, I feel like we got him,been working on this for a
really long time, but we got it.
Yeah, I feel like you know wegot it right.
Nah, man, I was gonna say wasthere a point in time, like
maybe this week or like lastweek, where a client said
something oh, this is gonnasound so horrible, I may edit
this out where you're like shutup, dog.
(22:37):
That came from your soul, man.
I came from the pits of yourbody, man.
Of course, man, it happens incouples all the time, man, all
the time in couples, all thetime, man, all the time, bro,
all the time.
Do you ever?
I mean I think we talked aboutthis in the cast we're like do
(22:57):
you ever say that?
I mean you say that, I meanwith clients that I have like a
really good relationship with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they know that, like it'scoming from a place where I'm
like, hey, man, we've beenthrough like the bottom, the top
.
We've been around the worldtogether.
It's like you know, like shutup.
Yeah, you know what I lovedoing, man, you know what I love
doing with clients.
(23:18):
Like you know how clients willsometimes have a pity party.
Yeah, yeah, we all do it.
You know, clients do it, youknow.
And when they're talking, youknow, and they're doing it, I
start going like, all right, man, let it out.
Yeah, I mean no, get it out,get it out, because, look, let's
just acknowledge that right nowyou need to complain.
(23:40):
Yeah, there's no therapeuticvalue in it.
I'm not going to waste my timeby trying to get you to flip the
script and do change, talk andtry to roll with the resistance
and we're not doing motivationalinterviewing.
You need to say some nasty,shadowy, some understilled.
(24:02):
You need to go to a dark place.
You need to spew some vomit ona situation or a person, Some
stuff that you would never sayout loud.
You get it out, get it out.
Get it out, get it out and thenit's like all right.
It's just like when you're sickand you throw up, you kind of
(24:24):
feel better sometimes.
Sometimes you just need to.
All right, let's not talk aboutthe, let's not throw up, talk,
let's hold them.
Sometimes you need to.
You know Daddy's tummy's stillfor now, though you know His
tummy's still unsettled.
Yeah, man, clines be in thenose.
Like that's why I said I hopeher fried chicken burns.
(24:47):
I just that's why you do thecasserole.
She was dry, oh she.
Oh, she burned her roux.
(25:08):
Yeah, it's necessary, just likesometimes in session it's
necessary, especially if you getthe relationship to handle it.
Come on, man, shut up, man.
Or sometimes it's your ownstuff, like it's your own stuff,
which means, like you know theclient's talking about like how
busy they are, you know, andthey're like yeah, I got this
and this and I got this going onand that and this and this and
this.
Yeah, it's like whenundergraduates say that they're
(25:30):
busy yeah, you got your ownstuff.
Man, like you as a therapist,you may be thinking, yeah, but
you ain't got no kids, you ain'tgot no real problems.
Hey, listen, geez, you don'thave a single person depending
on you.
You have zero problems.
You alienate like 90% of thelist.
You have zero.
Why are you stressed?
(25:52):
You should not the list.
You have zero.
Why are you stressed?
You should not be stressed.
You have no children, right?
I'm not saying that.
No, I'm not saying that's areal thing, right?
I'm just saying that therecould possibly be some
therapists out there who havefelt something like that.
No, you know, you know what itis for me, man, you know what it
is and you know what it is forme, man, you know what it is and
I don't know how much this isgoing to make sense, but it's
when people.
(26:12):
It's when.
It's when.
It's when clients Okay, look,clients, they they didn't hear
the previous session.
No, they didn't hear, and theydon't know the session
afterwards.
You know what I mean.
And sometimes those clients whoare like that.
(26:33):
They're like that because theydon't have other people around
them or maybe they don't payattention to the struggles and
how people are navigating thosestruggles around them in their
communities.
You know what I mean.
And so, yeah, man, sometimesyou get done with the you know,
two o'clock session and then thethree o'clock session comes in
and they're talking about somestuff and you're just sitting
(26:54):
there like man, shut up, likeyou, trust me, there are people
praying for these problems.
Yeah, like, if you don't, you,you you can't do that, you can't
do that.
And you got to meet the personwhere they are.
Yeah, and you got to meet theperson where they are Yada, yada
, yada.
But inside of your brain, youknow, inside of the, not outside
(27:17):
, not outside, inside Inside thebrain, in the factory, yeah, in
the forge.
You know, for you it's morelike a campfire, but for other
people, for me, it's more like acigarette lighter, it's more
like a, yeah, like in thedarkness, like a candle
flickering in the darkness.
That's what it's like in yourhead A vast space, well, vast, I
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mean cavernous, but anyway it'sjust damp in there.
But, yeah, like, sometimesSmells mildewy, that's what they
inside of my brain.
Is that the scourge?
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You've had a cycle.
I need a janitor in here, manNah, what was I saying, man?
Yeah, so, anyway.
So with yeah, with yeah, withclients, man, sometimes you do
have to hold back on on on justletting them know how
insignificant hey, not the heat,but hold on, let me, because
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that's a strong word right,letting them know just how
insignificant their problemswould be to other people yeah,
not to me.
Yeah, yeah, because you pay meand you pay me, man.
You pay me to pretend like yourproblems are significant to me.
Yeah, but by the hour, and thenafter the hour's over, yeah,
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and what were you gonna say, man?
So I was gonna say that haveyou ever had one of those
relationships where the clientkind of breaks that wall, like
breaks the seal from, like theirsession to the sessions that
came before them and thesessions that's coming after
them?
Oh, yeah, like they see, likesomebody come in the waiting
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room, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, likeyou're in the dentist's office,
you know, and they hear thescreams from like this yes, yeah
, have you had a client Likethey see somebody come in the
waiting room?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, likeyou're in the dentist's office,
you know, and they hear thescreams from like this yes, yes,
yes, man, and they walk in andsit down and be like oof, you
need some time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or like you know, maybe theydon't hear that, but maybe they
walk in while you're likeopening another box of Kleenex,
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you know, and the client's like,damn, what happened in here?
Why is it so thick in here?
It's definitely warmer in herethan it is out there.
Why is there so much snot allover this seat, like what is
happening here?
Yeah, it's like walking into aplayroom where the toys aren't
put away, you know, and theclient can't do anything but
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notice that that happens.
Dog, do you do you think thatthe residue from past sessions
of the day is like stuck in theroom?
Are we talking about?
Are we getting woo-woo in here?
I mean, I don't know man, butI'm like I mean, hey man, if the
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woo is wooing, then the woo iswooing.
Hey man, who is wooing the woo?
You may be like the sofa, thewoo-woo, the woo-woo suggesting
is that the sofa imbues, youknow, it takes in some of the
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emotions from the clients.
Yeah, and when another personsits, if they're sensitive to it
, they could feel it.
I'm saying I'm not just sayingthis, I'm saying the whole room,
I'm saying like the whole space.
Pictures clock the space itself.
Well then, wouldn't it be youas well?
Yeah, yeah, man, see, that'swhy.
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So what I do is, you know, likein the Catholic faith they have
holy water.
What I do is I collect thetears of my clients and when
they leave the room I kind ofsprinkle it.
I sprinkle it on the chairs.
It acts as like a really goodpurifier.
You know, of the sins and thehopes and dreams.
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Yeah, failed, failedaspirations, unmet expectations.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does.
Yeah, actually, that's, we'recoming out with a line of air
fresheners.
Yeah, for therapists, and, uh,that's one of the, that's one of
our, our most like, requestedbottle of fresheners.
It's unmet expectations.
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You, you give it two squirts ofunmet expectations, just two
squirts.
A little sorrow spritz and, ifyou want, you can do the tears
of my father or tears of mymother.
You can do a little dusting.
It's like a powder and you canput that on the threshold of
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your door so when somebody walksin, it really cleanses their
orbs, putting in the limit ofspaces.
Yeah, obviously, I don't knowabout all that man, but I don't
know.
I bet I think there issomething to that man, I bet,
man.
So then, how do you cleanse thespace?
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You know, dog, you got to getout of it, right.
Well, that's what I was goingto say.
I like get out.
Have you ever, like, wentsession to session without
getting like out of your office?
Oh yeah, man, there was sometimes where, when I was working
at Nickel State University,where, like, oh yeah, oh yeah,
man, there was some times where,when I was working at nickel
state university, where, likeman, we had, like you know, I
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don't know man, a couple ofthousand students on our
caseload, like it was it wasbananas, you know and like man,
I would make it to work at 8amand there would be students
lined up at the clinic waitingfor the clinic to open start
sessions.
Man, like you know, we would.
It would be like 8 to 12, andthen you'd have 12 to 1 for
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lunch, but sometimes you'd havea 12 to 1 crisis client and then
you'd have to like see a clientfrom like 1 to 4 30.
You know, it was just like backto back to back to back to back
.
You know, like it's just yeah.
And so you would do therapywhere, like, not only was the
room not being cleansed, but youweren't getting up.
You know, you're just likeholding on to stuff, man.
Yeah, I remember, I remembersaying to clients like, so how
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was the trip to tennessee?
You know the clients like thetrip where, what?
What are you talking about?
The trip to tennessee, I didn'tgo to Tennessee, went to
Tennessee.
I've never left the state.
Yeah, oh, oh, yeah, man, okay,or like I wouldn't be able to
remember the client's story,yeah, you know.
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So, because I couldn't rememberthe details, my reflections were
ambiguous and vague.
I kind of stayed with theclient and the client may not
have felt it, but I definitelyfelt it.
Yeah, man, doing therapy inthat space, I firmly believe
that, man, it holds residue.
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Have you ever done that?
Have you ever sat in the seatof a client after they left and
felt how hot that seat was?
No, I actually haven't donethat.
I actually haven't done that,actually haven't done that.
Or maybe like no, you know what,dog, that was one time.
No, here here, that was onetime where I had a no-show at a
session and then I was waitingfor another session to start a
no-show.
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So I went in the room to liketake a nap, because, hey, we do
that sometimes, bruh, we do thatsometimes.
If you haven't taken a nap inone of the therapy rooms yet,
you're missing out, bruh, you'remissing out.
Deep is the deep sleeps.
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Anyway, it was a tough session.
I laid down on the sofa, didn'tfeel right.
Oh, it just didn't feel right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah didn't feelright.
Oh, it just didn't feel right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah didn't feelright, like I had to leave the
room to come back in.
Yeah, yeah, you know, justbecause it just felt.
It just felt weird.
Man, yeah, it just felt weird.
Yeah, I guess you're right.
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I guess you're right, like Idon't know, because there's
times where I've had, like asession and then, like, the
secretary or front officemanager will walk the next
person back and so I don't get achance to leave, you know, and
I don't have that transition.
Yeah, yeah, you know what Imean.
Yeah, you know, because there'ssometimes that sometimes I'm in
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the session dog and I'll go tothe bathroom.
I just wash my hands, right,yeah, I just wash my hands,
right, I'll wash my face, likejust put water in my face.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, yeah,yeah, yeah, like you know, you
just need that little bit oflike.
I just need this.
Yeah, there's probably atherapist right now listening to
this, thinking like if youwould just spray lemongrass
(36:04):
essential oil in your chair,then it would cleanse that.
If you would just burn sage,you really need to light some
sage and dry onion leaves.
Hey bro, I'm not against any ofthat stuff.
No, you feel it.
You feel it, it's there.
It's there.
Yeah, it's there.
Now, I know we got to wrap itup, we gotta wrap it up, but but
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do you feel like sometimes thathelps the next client's
processing?
What do you mean?
Like just to let the residuesit, let it sit in there, don't
do anything, just let it be.
Because I do notice, like aclient entering into like a
marinated room, you know, like aroom that's been like marinated
, marinated in sadness andfrustration or happiness, I
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don't know.
Gosh, like what kind ofsessions you be having
Frustration, anger, yeah.
Violence, all right, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or growth, nope, nope, nope,nope, nope, nope, anyway.
But yeah, you know, because Ido notice that those last couple
sessions, yeah, yeah, thoselast two to three, uh-huh, they
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begin.
Yeah, because you're warm, I'mseasoned.
Yeah, you're seasoned.
The chair is warmed up.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
You know what I mean, the roomis ready.
It's like the client walks in,like oh, it's hot in here, and
you're like, yeah, sit your assdown, let's get to it Not as hot
as it's about to be, yeah, yeah, what is it like to experience
(37:37):
this?
I hope you bought somecigarettes Because you're going
to need some after this session.
Yeah, I think those last coupleof sessions, man, there's just
experience this because you'regonna need some after this
session.
Yeah, no, man like, yeah, Ithink those last couple sessions
, man, there's just somethingabout that.
Yeah, something about like.
And it's not the last session,because we all know the last
session's not great, yeah, butthe.
But the second to last session,that's always the one for me,
yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, not me, it's the, it's the
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second session of the day.
The second session of the dayis when I'm like, okay, yeah,
I'm here, but all right.
So before we go, man, let mejust buckshot some stuff to you,
man, real quick.
Just technical issues like the,the projector's not connecting
to the thing, I'm not evennervous, I'm not even nervous,
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I'm nervous.
I'm nervous for the university,I'm I'm nervous for the
students.
Like it's the, it's the worst,and the thing is that I don't
really need the powerpoint.
Hey, man, I can do it withoutthe powerpoint.
I would just prefer it if itwould work.
Just, just work, just work.
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You know, let's work.
All right, all right, so.
So that's one number two.
Hey, do you, do you park wherestudents and faculty can see you
, or do you have like your ownlittle space where you park,
where, like you know, nobody canreally see?
You got your own little spot, Idon't care, man, oh, you don't
care, oh, man, I don't care man,what, what about?
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What about bathrooms?
Now, you, you got your ownlittle spot, your own little
bathroom in there.
Or or you go to, you just Justgo to the gym pop bathroom, just
gym pop bathroom.
You go in there, you seeclients, you see students, you
see faculty.
Hey, jim, what's going on?
Jim, hey, I got your email.
Man, yeah, or you got like yourown little secluded bathroom
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there.
Nah, man, you know what's weird,man, and I noticed this there's
not many guys in my field, butalso, like my department and
(40:02):
also my college, there's just,you know, and so it's because
there's so little of us.
It is very rare that we seeeach other in the bathroom.
I just see each other ingeneral.
Yeah, which is weird, I guessto think about Yep, yep, yep,
yep.
Anyway, anyway, all right, man,all right, all right, real
(40:22):
quick, real.
I guess to think about Yep, yep, yep, yep, anyway, anyway, all
right, man, all right, all right, real quick, real, real quick,
bro, what you got going on thisweekend.
First soccer game, first soccergame of the season.
Man, first soccer game of theseason.
This is balance.
First soccer game, first soccergame.
About to look cute in thatuniform?
Man, what time is it?
(40:43):
I don't know.
Is it Saturday, saturdaymorning?
Oh, bruh, check the time andlet us know.
We on FaceTime or something, dog, we need to figure out a way to
be able to watch the games live.
Oh, they have a live feed.
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The U3?
You guys are connected to theU3 Recreational League ESPN
channel.
You don't have one of those.
No, we don't have one.
Oh, okay, you can watch them.
It's pay-per-view.
Oh, pay-per-view.
Okay, we'll find some time.
Hey, you know what, bro?
Yeah, we'll find some time, man.
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Hey, you know what?
Man, before I check in, I just,you know, I just want to say a
big what's up to MalawiUniversity, man, man and the
counseling program.
Man, and we just did a guestlecture in the class, yep, and
it was fun man.
Yep, fun man, it was fun.
I wish we could have recordedit for the cast.
Oh, we should have Greatquestions, great students, good
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faculty.
You know, and here's the thing,listener, the person who made
this possible was a graduatestudent who reached out to us.
She's amazing, nicole.
She's gone.
She's gone places.
She's gone places.
Hopefully going to SouthLouisiana because we got a
doctoral program here.
Hopefully going to theUniversity of Mary Hyde Baylor
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when we get to Louisiana,because our doctoral program is
coming pretty soon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'llcook for you, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was fun, man, we got anotherround of that, but yeah, nah,
bro, that's all we got.
Man, we got another round ofthat, but yeah, nah bro, that's
all we got.
Man, soccer games this weekend.
So first soccer game should befun, us too, man, cairo has a
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soccer game on Sunday morningand two football games on Sunday
afternoon.
Exhausted, it's a jamboreeJamboree.
It's a jamboree man.
Only in Louisiana do they's ajamboree Jamboree.
It's a jamboree man.
Only in Louisiana do they callsome jamborees.
They got jamborees all over theplace, man, they don't call
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them that in Texas I haven'theard a single tournament called
a jamboree.
We got a jamboree.
Man, it's a tournament.
Man Cajun Classic it's flagfootball.
Lafayette Jamboree it's flagfootball.
He got his first soccer game ofthe season, this season on
Sunday.
We're playing a coach that Ilove, one of those coaches that
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they don't care about winning,they just want you to do well,
Just have a good time.
If you make an improper throwin, hey, take another throw in.
This is how you do it, you know.
So, like I love playing coacheslike that.
Ain't got nothing to prove, man, yeah and uh.
And then we got flag footballafter that.
This could be your first timeplaying flag football, man, so,
uh, so yeah, we got that comingup.
Man, we got, uh, uh, the ragingcajuns playing against tulane
(43:36):
university.
Uh, on saturday, man,interesting, both your, both
your, for your, your employers.
Yeah, I just, you know Isupport where the money comes
from, you know so, uh, no, no,loyalty, yeah, no.
Man, yeah, go cages, uh, anyway, uh, no.
Man, robie just did like aafrican dance and hip-hop dance
(43:57):
tonight, you know, and hey, kof,and hey Kofi, our cutest,
littlest, littlest bundle of joy, got his first time out today.
At daycare.
He got put in time out forthrowing something.
That's right.
I gave him the biggest highfive when he came to the car.
He got put in time out today.
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What'd he throw?
What'd he throw?
What'd he throw Now?
Which hand was it it?
Now, how far did it go?
How far did it go now?
Listen, did he rotate?
Have a spiral?
Did he rotate around like hips,like is it a?
Was it?
Did it curve or was it more?
You know, like, what was thearc on it?
Was there peak height?
Uh-huh, it was the velocity.
(44:41):
I mean, I want to know.
Yeah, I need to know what's thearc Like, I need to know these
things.
Did he, was it at something anddid he hit that thing?
Mm-hmm, what was his responseafter hitting it?
Did he celebrate?
You know what?
What are we talking about here?
You know, man, yeah, man, he'son his way, on his way.
Man, he's on his way, on hisway.
(45:01):
All right, on his way.
We're going to try to be alittle bit more consistent.
We're going to try to get thisthing out, you know, sometime
soon.
But hey, y'all please stoplistening to this, guys.
Like you know, we feel so muchpressure to get this stuff out.
If y'all would stop listeningthen we wouldn't feel any
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pressure at now.
Turn it off, don't even finishit.
Cut it off on a serious forreal.
For real, look like this notour jobs, man, hey man, it's not
our jobs.
Hey, we're not even, hey, we'renot even really good at this.
I'm trying to, I'm trying toget paid off of this man.
I'm trying to.
No man, like, if we are, if wedo go mri for a week or two,
it's probably because we cleanand vomit up or something Like
give us a break.
You know, Isn't that like wesee in here, like let's not cast
(45:50):
and make them suffer?
Hey man, hey, come on.
Next time the stomach virusruns through my house.
I'm getting some Depends.
I don't care Dignity for what?
I have no pride, there's no egohere.
Yeah, isn't that the uh slogandepends.
I am getting some depends andgoing about my life living
(46:12):
freely.
He's gonna be teaching.
I'm gonna be teaching class.
Man, take a little pause, break, you know, hey, I thought y'all
supposed to be non-judgmental.
I thought you were supposed tobe non-judgmental.
I thought y'all were supposedto be unconditional.
Meet me where I am, meet mewhere I am.
Yeah, man, anyway, all right,y'all, we're going to see y'all
(46:37):
next week, maybe, maybe I don'tknow.
All right, maybe I don't know,alright.
all right, man, we back bro, we back man, welcome,
welcome to another cast, man, itfeels like it's been forever,
because it it has been forever.
Man, let's do, let's do alittle bit of check-ins and then
, uh, we do a little topic andthen some checkouts.
Man, cheaper, what?
Uh, what's been going on foryou?
(00:39):
Hey, man, so y'all notice we'vebeen gone.
That's our fault.
Yeah, we've been gone.
Yeah, look we.
And we've heard it.
We've.
We've heard, we've heard fromthe people yeah, y'all can stop
you, cut it out.
Yeah, we had enough.
Yeah, we heard we got lives.
Yeah, when are y'all comingback?
Is the podcast over?
(01:00):
I mean, y'all said y'all wasgonna not say nothing.
When y'all said y'all was goingto not say nothing, when y'all
stopped, y'all really didn't saynothing.
Wow, I feel abused, I feelabandoned.
Nah, man, we've been sick.
We've been sick that's anupdate, not just us Started the
start of school a couple sixweeks in.
I don't know about your house,but my house has been toxic.
(01:24):
Oh yeah, toxic man, absolutelytoxic.
Yeah, terrible, terrible.
It's just been running throughthe house, man, and so y'all.
We tried to do this cast so manytimes, but each time it'd be
like, hey, man, you ready tostart?
Nah, man, my kid just threw up.
Nah, man, my kid's in thetoilet right now.
(01:44):
Nah, man, I just threw up.
Yeah, man, it is what it is,man.
But we also had, we hadhurricane francine sweep through
, uh, south louisiana too.
Uh, yeah, two weeks ago, yeah,yeah.
So you know, we all fine, butlike, yeah, that that happened
too, man, it's been, it's been ahell of a couple weeks here,
(02:04):
man.
But we're back.
We're going to try to be alittle bit more consistent.
You know, it's Jude, jude's theproblem, but you know, I'm here,
I'm a busy boy, I'm a busy,busy boy.
He's pressed for time, he'spressed for time, anyway, man.
So, hey, real quick Update,real quick Update Up, real quick
Update, real quick UpdateUpdates.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
What you got going on, bro?
(02:24):
Oh, I started a D&D campaign.
Okay, you know, with a trustedcolleague.
Uh-huh, you know, trustedcolleague.
Uh-huh, they got you.
Huh, it's fire.
When I tell you, what have Ibeen doing with my life?
Uh-huh, I'm in, I'm in there,I'm in.
(02:48):
What's your character?
What's your?
I don't, I can't, I can'tbecause there's too many layers
to it.
Okay, you know and so, but thatmy simple mind wouldn't be able
to comprehend.
No, I just know that some ofthe, I just know that some of
the other players also listen tothe okay, and there's some
things I I can't reveal rightnow, as it's too, it's muy
importante, okay, si, si, si, siyou know, and so I can't
(03:09):
because it'll ruin, you know,the future of the campaign and I
want to, you know.
But no, seriously, it's fun, man, and you know what else, dog,
it's really good for us toexperience it as, like, faculty,
you know, and that's why soy'all are doing it as a whole.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody,the whole faculty, everybody,
part of the campaign.
Yeah, who's running thecampaign?
(03:29):
Like, who's running the?
The uh, student, joe, oh, astudent, okay, yeah, uh-huh,
yeah, yeah, yeah, past studentwho's a two's a dungeon master.
He's been doing it for years.
He's amazing, yeah, he'samazing man and uh and uh, just,
I mean it's so visceral.
You know what I mean.
Anyway, it's really good,because I don't know if you saw,
I don't know if you read TimeMagazine.
I know you're a little uncouthand uncultured, so you probably
(03:51):
don't, but listen if you get achance.
Does it have pictures?
It does have pictures.
I think I've done through it.
It does have pictures foryourself, but I don't know if
you get a chance read it,because there was an article in
there that kind of talked aboutD&D as a therapeutic method.
You remember we went to thatconference that talked about it,
(04:12):
for like it was like a six hourD&D, like a presentation on how
to use it for therapy, and sothere's not trainings around
here and so us going through it,it's perfect because, like it's
just happening, it's justhappening around in the
community and a lot of ourstudents want to use it as a
therapeutic method.
So we were like, let's do it,let's just let's try it out to
(04:32):
see.
You know what we're doing, yeah, you know.
So, anyway, that's somethingfor me.
Kids are doing good.
Um, you know, people have beentelling me how funny the stories
are.
You know it.
You know they're.
They're doing regular kidsstuff.
Yeah, yeah, you know like, uh,class is going good,
everything's going.
We did start the token economy,okay, with the kids.
(04:54):
I don't know if y'all do that,man, yeah, yeah, but you get
stars, you know, for things thatyou're doing, you know, and but
when I tell you I I don't evenactually care if they do the
stuff to get the stars right.
I just, I just want them to goabout their day thinking about
doing the stuff to get the starsright.
Right, you know, and if itstops one behavior I'm fine.
(05:19):
Yeah, you know, and I'd be sopassive, aggressive with them.
You know, like something willhappen and they'll be like oh,
hold on, let me go check.
Let me go check the fridge andsee, because I think sharing is
one of the things you can get asticker for.
I think I recall sharing as oneof the I don't know, like, do
(05:42):
y'all remember which one it was?
Let me go check.
Yep, yeah, yeah, but look, so Iguess you have to make a choice
now, like is not sharing worthnot getting the star?
Uh-huh, or what I don't know.
Let me know when you make adecision Wow, that's crazy man.
You know.
Wow, it's perfect man.
Yeah, yeah, it's perfect man,yeah, it's perfect.
(06:03):
You know, see, in our house ismore or less like give your
sister the damn toy.
What's wrong with you?
Whoa, that's how you talk toyou.
Yeah, that's, that's more Iknew.
Let me call them people.
Hold on, let me call thempeople.
Let me listen.
Hey, listen, I need you to lookat me.
No, no, look at my eyes.
Look at my eyes.
Hey, if you don't share this toywith your sister, I'm throwing
away all of your toys.
(06:24):
Nobody's playing with toys.
You're not even going to seeanything in this house that
starts with the letter t.
You ain't, you're not.
Play is even going to beremoved if you don't know.
Toilet paper, no, nothing,nothing, man.
Trash cans.
You don't have trash piling upin your room.
That's it.
(06:47):
All I'm trying to do is sit downwith my coffee and enjoy the
morning.
Enjoy the morning.
Y'all been up since fouro'clock in the morning.
Why aren't y'all tired For real?
Anyway, man, any updates fromyou, man?
Hey, man, I started at theUniversity of Louisiana and it
couldn't be sweeter, couldn't besweeter, huh, it just couldn't
(07:10):
be sweeter.
Couldn't be sweeter?
The crawfish tails and thecrawfish buffet.
You know what?
You know what, bro?
So one of my students mentionedthat they found the cast.
So if I got any students fromyou all listening, make sure
y'all turning your homework ontime, or everybody's getting an
F, everybody's getting an F.
And if I see y'all playingaround in the clinic, I'm
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reporting y'all.
I'm reporting y'all.
Sure, like the program is dope,students are dope, you know like
it's.
You know it's really good to bea part of it.
Program is dope, students aredope.
You know like it's, you knowit's really good to be a part of
it.
But, like, one of the real coolthings is that I'm taking my
kids to a football game thisweekend.
You know, like, just taking thekids to a football game, yeah,
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you have the option to do thatand it's D1.
The option to do that, just theoption to do that.
You know, yeah, man, it's justyeah, it's nice, man, it's nice.
And plus, like I've got areally good program director who
like really honors, like family, and like really honors, like
being protective of like ourschedule.
You know just, you know it'smore than I could ask for.
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So it's like a communityprogram, exactly, yeah, yeah,
you know you see people aroundthe community Like I'm, I coach.
I coach Cairo soccer team andCairo State.
Later, after soccer practice,just, you know him and a kid was
kicking around, the mom cameover and the mom was like, oh,
what do you do?
And I told him she was like Igraduated from that program,
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like you know, 10 years ago.
I was like, oh, are youpracticing?
She was like no, I have amassage there.
I'm a massage therapist andhave a business in the community
, you know, and I was like oh,that's that's so.
Like how long have you?
We just had like a conversationabout that.
It's just, it's good to be apart of, it's good to be a part
of.
The students are like livingamong you in the community.
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The program is of the community.
You know, like it's of thecommunity that I'm actually, you
know.
So, no, no, disrespect to anyother programs that I've worked
at, it's just like that's that'skind of what I was looking for
at this phase of my life, youknow.
So it hits different.
It hits different when you knowlike it's you know dog, like it
hits different when you knowthat the, that the students
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you're training, couldpotentially work with a friend.
Yeah, like partner, yeah, yeah,yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, or something as simple aslike man, it's the student, the
student of color, asked me togo to her uh, her, um,
internship sites open house.
You know it's on a friday inthe middle of the day.
Like I can do that, like I canlike go to that open house
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before I go pick up the kidsfrom school.
You know like pop in, say hey,make sure the student knows that
, like they're supported, andthen pop out.
You know, like I've neverreally been able to do that
before, you know, so, yeah, sothat's cool.
Kids are good man.
Just, you know, just justgrowing, bro, just just
absolutely growing.
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We just found out that our soKofi, our one-year-old, weighs
more than Roby, ourfive-year-old.
He weighs more than ourfive-year-old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't knowwhich one is worse.
Yeah, you know, all I'm hearingis neglect.
Yeah, that know.
Uh-huh, all I'm hearing isneglect.
Yeah, yeah, that's all I'mhearing.
Mm-hmm, well, you wouldn't seethat if you would see how she
body slams him.
Yeah, even though he weighsmore, he's still a little light
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in the ass to be tussling withher in the sunroom.
You know, he's still a littlelight in the ass.
Oh, a little light now.
Anyway, yeah, that's yeah bro,yeah, man, yeah, so, all right
topic.
You got something just right offthe right off the back.
No, I got nothing, because I do.
No, I got nothing, I've justbeen, I've just been swimming,
swimming, just sitting here.
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You know, just, just, don'tmind me, don't mind me, I'm just
trying to trying to keep awhole program afloat, you know,
nah, bro, I'm joking, bro, it'sbeen, it's been fine, bro, what
you got.
All right, all right, all right.
So I got a couple things allright, so that one, thank you.
So, hey, do you find that when,a when a client like uh, misses
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a session or like, has toreschedule, do you find that,
like, it's really hard for themto get back on your schedule?
Bruh, bruh, like I feelterrible about that stuff, man.
I feel terrible when, when,like I have to reschedule
because I'm like shufflingaround stuff to like try to get
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them on my schedule.
You know, know all this stuff.
But when a client misses, like,when a client's like oh yeah,
we're going to need them thistime, something came up, or
whatever, you know, yeah, it'slike, oh man, like I, I don't
know when I'm going to havespace on my schedule to see you
again.
Like I, just, I just don't know, you know.
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And then, like, I have to, likeI deal with it is a strong word
, but like it's, it's present inmy relationship with the client
in the next session.
Well, what do you do you let?
Do you let your clients knowthat that, like this isn't your
job?
You know what I mean like, yeah, like it's like your job, but
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it's like it's not all you do.
Like do your clients know?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I let.
I let my clients know that like,hey, man, my schedule gets like
super packed, you know.
So it's really important for usto find like a consistent day
and time to meet, you know, andlike, if you have to miss
consistent day and time to meet,you know, and like, if you have
to miss that day and time,let's just miss the whole week
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and see each other the followingweek.
You know, because, like, myschedule is like my schedule is
packed, packed, packed, packed,packed.
You know, not like I'm soimportant or whatever, but it's
just like nah, man, I got to,it's just stuff.
You got to do.
I got to, you know, got to pickup the kids.
We got soccer practice, we gotflag football practice, I got
supervision.
Just life, just life Stuff.
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Like that happens, yeah, justlife stuff.
But it's super hard especiallyif you're in private practice
I'll just say it for me Tomanage the money, manage the
schedule, manage therescheduling and manage the
therapeutic relationship.
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Dog, that's dog.
At what point do you call it?
You know what I mean.
At what point are you like,actually, these clients would be
better off served by, like abetter therapist?
No, I feel that way.
I feel that way More like, justlike a more competent therapist
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.
You know one who is licensed inmultiple states?
Okay, one who offers virtualphone therapy.
You know one who you know maylook like you, you know, but
it's definitely better lookingthan you.
Okay, you know, like at whatpoint do you, what point do you
send them home?
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Yeah, you know, what point doyou send them?
You know what I mean.
Like at what point do you haveto answer that question for
yourself of like, am I supposedto be here, or is there not
already a better version of methat exists?
Let's wrap it up.
Uh-huh, yep, let's close it outhere.
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Let's see the dismount.
Let's see the dismount.
I'm just asking, let's see itFrom an ethical perspective.
And here it comes, ladies andgentlemen, here's the dismount
From an ethical perspective.
Yep, here it comes, ladies andgentlemen, here's a dismount
From an ethical perspective.
When do you do no harm?
Okay, yep, there we go.
And we made it, we got it.
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Where is the?
No, we're here.
No, we're there.
Where's the Maleficent no, no,no, no, we're gone?
No, because, see you, see, yourLouisiana accent is coming out
and you're about to startgetting to some of these words
that you can't really pronounce.
You're right, because I wasabout to say the B word.
What's the word?
What is it?
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You're about to start talkingabout Disney characters.
No, yeah, you're about to getinto the monophilates.
The benedeficence, thebenediction, For real, what is
it?
The Eucharist, what is it,though?
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Melbeneficence, melfeces,melfeces, benvenedidi,
benvenedidi, benvena.
We almost made it, but then yep, man, I was close, though the
accent will change.
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That country ass will come out.
That Karen Crow Appaloosas willcome out.
Yeah, you can't even finish thewords.
You knew where I was going to.
I was trying to get there, man,but hey, man, alright, well,
you know what I be.
You know the B word I'm talkingabout.
Hey, man, listen.
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You know, at some point, though, you do have to call it.
Hey, at some point, you do haveto call it, man, you do.
You have to look at yourselfmaybe it's not the right time
cold, hard in the mirror and sayI don't, I don't have enough
time, time maybe, these clients?
Yeah, I just don't have enoughtime.
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You know it's a hard, though,man.
It's a hard conversation, man.
Look man, I had.
I had a um student of mine Ithink it was a student or maybe
it was a client or I don'tremember.
Something happened to thetherapist, like I think they I
think it was traumatic likesomebody passed away, somebody
died and they immediately had tojust transfer their clients.
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Okay, you know what I mean.
Like, as hard as it is, theyjust had to transfer their
client.
But that's a hard, that's ahard decision, dog, because like
, if you're like me, the clientdog, the clients that I have are
right or die.
Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
Like we've been working togetherfor a while, like a lot of
progress, but also like a lot oflife together.
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You know what I mean.
I've been working with some ofthese clients before I had kids,
yeah, you know.
You know what I think is thebenefit of them, but it's
actually hurting them becauseI'm not letting them go.
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Yeah, yeah, that like when youdo life with a client in that
way, like sometimes you havemoments where like we're in a
lull, where like nothing'sreally happened, yeah, and
you're like you're prettyhealthy.
You know, man, it's like theminute you say, all right, I
think we can start like, maybeseeing each other once a month,
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you know, maybe seeing eachother like once every three
months.
You know, whatever, like man,something happens where, like
you know, hey, like my husbandcheated, or you know, whatever
like man, something happenswhere, like you know, hey, like
my husband cheated, or, yeah,you know, something pulls them
yeah, my kid, whatever you know,and like something kind of
brings them back into wherethey're like, yeah, I think I'm
gonna need a little bit moreconsistency with therapy, you
know, um, and, and that's good,that's good, that's perfect,
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yeah, that's perfect, yeah, butto me it's the, it's, you know,
and having to ask, having toanswer that question for
yourself of, like you know, howmany times can I reschedule, how
many times can I be like, ohnah, like, tuesdays at two don't
work.
Oh man, thursdays at one don'twork.
Yeah, you know, like the onlytime I can meet is Sunday at
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three 30 in the afternoon.
It's like, come on, man, like,but why are you doing this to
clients?
Yeah, man, yeah, all right, allright, all right.
So let me, let me transitionthis to like the next thing.
All right, cause I want to makesure that, like, we were good
on time, cause it's going to bea quick one, cause we got kids
breathing out our necks rightnow, breathing out our necks
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right now to come downstairs andbe with them.
I don't know why you got to bewith your family.
I blame gentle parenting.
Oh man, I blame gentleparenting.
Yeah, man, yeah, anyway, anyway, all right.
So, thank you.
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Hey, was there a moment, maybethis week or last week?
All right, right.
So do you want me to do thereport now or do you want me to
do the report later?
What were you going to say?
No, don't worry about what Iwas going to say.
No, you already confessed.
So I got him y'all.
Yeah, we got him.
We got him.
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We've been working on this fora really long time.
We got him.
Yeah, I feel like we got him,been working on this for a
really long time, but we got it.
Yeah, I feel like you know wegot it right.
Nah, man, I was gonna say wasthere a point in time, like
maybe this week or like lastweek, where a client said
something oh, this is gonnasound so horrible, I may edit
this out where you're like shutup, dog.
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That came from your soul, man.
I came from the pits of yourbody, man.
Of course, man, it happens incouples all the time, man, all
the time in couples, all thetime, man, all the time, bro,
all the time.
Do you ever?
I mean I think we talked aboutthis in the cast we're like do
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you ever say that?
I mean you say that, I meanwith clients that I have like a
really good relationship with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they know that, like it'scoming from a place where I'm
like, hey, man, we've beenthrough like the bottom, the top
.
We've been around the worldtogether.
It's like you know, like shutup.
Yeah, you know what I lovedoing, man, you know what I love
doing with clients.
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Like you know how clients willsometimes have a pity party.
Yeah, yeah, we all do it.
You know, clients do it, youknow.
And when they're talking, youknow, and they're doing it, I
start going like, all right, man, let it out.
Yeah, I mean no, get it out,get it out, because, look, let's
just acknowledge that right nowyou need to complain.
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Yeah, there's no therapeuticvalue in it.
I'm not going to waste my timeby trying to get you to flip the
script and do change, talk andtry to roll with the resistance
and we're not doing motivationalinterviewing.
You need to say some nasty,shadowy, some understilled.
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You need to go to a dark place.
You need to spew some vomit ona situation or a person, Some
stuff that you would never sayout loud.
You get it out, get it out.
Get it out, get it out and thenit's like all right.
It's just like when you're sickand you throw up, you kind of
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feel better sometimes.
Sometimes you just need to.
All right, let's not talk aboutthe, let's not throw up, talk,
let's hold them.
Sometimes you need to.
You know Daddy's tummy's stillfor now, though you know His
tummy's still unsettled.
Yeah, man, clines be in thenose.
Like that's why I said I hopeher fried chicken burns.
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I just that's why you do thecasserole.
She was dry, oh she.
Oh, she burned her roux.
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Yeah, it's necessary, just likesometimes in session it's
necessary, especially if you getthe relationship to handle it.
Come on, man, shut up, man.
Or sometimes it's your ownstuff, like it's your own stuff,
which means, like you know theclient's talking about like how
busy they are, you know, andthey're like yeah, I got this
and this and I got this going onand that and this and this and
this.
Yeah, it's like whenundergraduates say that they're
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busy yeah, you got your ownstuff.
Man, like you as a therapist,you may be thinking, yeah, but
you ain't got no kids, you ain'tgot no real problems.
Hey, listen, geez, you don'thave a single person depending
on you.
You have zero problems.
You alienate like 90% of thelist.
You have zero.
Why are you stressed?
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You should not the list.
You have zero.
Why are you stressed?
You should not be stressed.
You have no children, right?
I'm not saying that.
No, I'm not saying that's areal thing, right?
I'm just saying that therecould possibly be some
therapists out there who havefelt something like that.
No, you know, you know what itis for me, man, you know what it
is and you know what it is forme, man, you know what it is and
I don't know how much this isgoing to make sense, but it's
when people.
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It's when.
It's when.
It's when clients Okay, look,clients, they they didn't hear
the previous session.
No, they didn't hear, and theydon't know the session
afterwards.
You know what I mean.
And sometimes those clients whoare like that.
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They're like that because theydon't have other people around
them or maybe they don't payattention to the struggles and
how people are navigating thosestruggles around them in their
communities.
You know what I mean.
And so, yeah, man, sometimesyou get done with the you know,
two o'clock session and then thethree o'clock session comes in
and they're talking about somestuff and you're just sitting
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there like man, shut up, likeyou, trust me, there are people
praying for these problems.
Yeah, like, if you don't, you,you you can't do that, you can't
do that.
And you got to meet the personwhere they are.
Yeah, and you got to meet theperson where they are Yada, yada
, yada.
But inside of your brain, youknow, inside of the, not outside
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, not outside, inside Inside thebrain, in the factory, yeah, in
the forge.
You know, for you it's morelike a campfire, but for other
people, for me, it's more like acigarette lighter, it's more
like a, yeah, like in thedarkness, like a candle
flickering in the darkness.
That's what it's like in yourhead A vast space, well, vast, I
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mean cavernous, but anyway it'sjust damp in there.
But, yeah, like, sometimesSmells mildewy, that's what they
inside of my brain.
Is that the scourge?
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You've had a cycle.
I need a janitor in here, manNah, what was I saying, man?
Yeah, so, anyway.
So with yeah, with yeah, withclients, man, sometimes you do
have to hold back on on on justletting them know how
insignificant hey, not the heat,but hold on, let me, because
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that's a strong word right,letting them know just how
insignificant their problemswould be to other people yeah,
not to me.
Yeah, yeah, because you pay meand you pay me, man.
You pay me to pretend like yourproblems are significant to me.
Yeah, but by the hour, and thenafter the hour's over, yeah,
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and what were you gonna say, man?
So I was gonna say that haveyou ever had one of those
relationships where the clientkind of breaks that wall, like
breaks the seal from, like theirsession to the sessions that
came before them and thesessions that's coming after
them?
Oh, yeah, like they see, likesomebody come in the waiting
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room, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, likeyou're in the dentist's office,
you know, and they hear thescreams from like this yes, yeah
, have you had a client Likethey see somebody come in the
waiting room?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, likeyou're in the dentist's office,
you know, and they hear thescreams from like this yes, yes,
yes, man, and they walk in andsit down and be like oof, you
need some time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or like you know, maybe theydon't hear that, but maybe they
walk in while you're likeopening another box of Kleenex,
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you know, and the client's like,damn, what happened in here?
Why is it so thick in here?
It's definitely warmer in herethan it is out there.
Why is there so much snot allover this seat, like what is
happening here?
Yeah, it's like walking into aplayroom where the toys aren't
put away, you know, and theclient can't do anything but
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notice that that happens.
Dog, do you do you think thatthe residue from past sessions
of the day is like stuck in theroom?
Are we talking about?
Are we getting woo-woo in here?
I mean, I don't know man, butI'm like I mean, hey man, if the
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woo is wooing, then the woo iswooing.
Hey man, who is wooing the woo?
You may be like the sofa, thewoo-woo, the woo-woo suggesting
is that the sofa imbues, youknow, it takes in some of the
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emotions from the clients.
Yeah, and when another personsits, if they're sensitive to it
, they could feel it.
I'm saying I'm not just sayingthis, I'm saying the whole room,
I'm saying like the whole space.
Pictures clock the space itself.
Well then, wouldn't it be youas well?
Yeah, yeah, man, see, that'swhy.
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So what I do is, you know, likein the Catholic faith they have
holy water.
What I do is I collect thetears of my clients and when
they leave the room I kind ofsprinkle it.
I sprinkle it on the chairs.
It acts as like a really goodpurifier.
You know, of the sins and thehopes and dreams.
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Yeah, failed, failedaspirations, unmet expectations.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does.
Yeah, actually, that's, we'recoming out with a line of air
fresheners.
Yeah, for therapists, and, uh,that's one of the, that's one of
our, our most like, requestedbottle of fresheners.
It's unmet expectations.
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You, you give it two squirts ofunmet expectations, just two
squirts.
A little sorrow spritz and, ifyou want, you can do the tears
of my father or tears of mymother.
You can do a little dusting.
It's like a powder and you canput that on the threshold of
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your door so when somebody walksin, it really cleanses their
orbs, putting in the limit ofspaces.
Yeah, obviously, I don't knowabout all that man, but I don't
know.
I bet I think there issomething to that man, I bet,
man.
So then, how do you cleanse thespace?
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You know, dog, you got to getout of it, right.
Well, that's what I was goingto say.
I like get out.
Have you ever, like, wentsession to session without
getting like out of your office?
Oh yeah, man, there was sometimes where, when I was working
at Nickel State University,where, like, oh yeah, oh yeah,
man, there was some times where,when I was working at nickel
state university, where, likeman, we had, like you know, I
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don't know man, a couple ofthousand students on our
caseload, like it was it wasbananas, you know and like man,
I would make it to work at 8amand there would be students
lined up at the clinic waitingfor the clinic to open start
sessions.
Man, like you know, we would.
It would be like 8 to 12, andthen you'd have 12 to 1 for
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lunch, but sometimes you'd havea 12 to 1 crisis client and then
you'd have to like see a clientfrom like 1 to 4 30.
You know, it was just like backto back to back to back to back
.
You know, like it's just yeah.
And so you would do therapywhere, like, not only was the
room not being cleansed, but youweren't getting up.
You know, you're just likeholding on to stuff, man.
Yeah, I remember, I remembersaying to clients like, so how
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was the trip to tennessee?
You know the clients like thetrip where, what?
What are you talking about?
The trip to tennessee, I didn'tgo to Tennessee, went to
Tennessee.
I've never left the state.
Yeah, oh, oh, yeah, man, okay,or like I wouldn't be able to
remember the client's story,yeah, you know.
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So, because I couldn't rememberthe details, my reflections were
ambiguous and vague.
I kind of stayed with theclient and the client may not
have felt it, but I definitelyfelt it.
Yeah, man, doing therapy inthat space, I firmly believe
that, man, it holds residue.
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Have you ever done that?
Have you ever sat in the seatof a client after they left and
felt how hot that seat was?
No, I actually haven't donethat.
I actually haven't done that,actually haven't done that.
Or maybe like no, you know what,dog, that was one time.
No, here here, that was onetime where I had a no-show at a
session and then I was waitingfor another session to start a
no-show.
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So I went in the room to liketake a nap, because, hey, we do
that sometimes, bruh, we do thatsometimes.
If you haven't taken a nap inone of the therapy rooms yet,
you're missing out, bruh, you'remissing out.
Deep is the deep sleeps.
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Anyway, it was a tough session.
I laid down on the sofa, didn'tfeel right.
Oh, it just didn't feel right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah didn't feelright.
Oh, it just didn't feel right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah didn't feelright, like I had to leave the
room to come back in.
Yeah, yeah, you know, justbecause it just felt.
It just felt weird.
Man, yeah, it just felt weird.
Yeah, I guess you're right.
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I guess you're right, like Idon't know, because there's
times where I've had, like asession and then, like, the
secretary or front officemanager will walk the next
person back and so I don't get achance to leave, you know, and
I don't have that transition.
Yeah, yeah, you know what Imean.
Yeah, you know, because there'ssometimes that sometimes I'm in
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the session dog and I'll go tothe bathroom.
I just wash my hands, right,yeah, I just wash my hands,
right, I'll wash my face, likejust put water in my face.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, yeah,yeah, yeah, like you know, you
just need that little bit oflike.
I just need this.
Yeah, there's probably atherapist right now listening to
this, thinking like if youwould just spray lemongrass
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essential oil in your chair,then it would cleanse that.
If you would just burn sage,you really need to light some
sage and dry onion leaves.
Hey bro, I'm not against any ofthat stuff.
No, you feel it.
You feel it, it's there.
It's there.
Yeah, it's there.
Now, I know we got to wrap itup, we gotta wrap it up, but but
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do you feel like sometimes thathelps the next client's
processing?
What do you mean?
Like just to let the residuesit, let it sit in there, don't
do anything, just let it be.
Because I do notice, like aclient entering into like a
marinated room, you know, like aroom that's been like marinated
, marinated in sadness andfrustration or happiness, I
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don't know.
Gosh, like what kind ofsessions you be having
Frustration, anger, yeah.
Violence, all right, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or growth, nope, nope, nope,nope, nope, nope, anyway.
But yeah, you know, because Ido notice that those last couple
sessions, yeah, yeah, thoselast two to three, uh-huh, they
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begin.
Yeah, because you're warm, I'mseasoned.
Yeah, you're seasoned.
The chair is warmed up.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
You know what I mean, the roomis ready.
It's like the client walks in,like oh, it's hot in here, and
you're like, yeah, sit your assdown, let's get to it Not as hot
as it's about to be, yeah, yeah, what is it like to experience
(37:37):
this?
I hope you bought somecigarettes Because you're going
to need some after this session.
Yeah, I think those last coupleof sessions, man, there's just
experience this because you'regonna need some after this
session.
Yeah, no, man like, yeah, Ithink those last couple sessions
, man, there's just somethingabout that.
Yeah, something about like.
And it's not the last session,because we all know the last
session's not great, yeah, butthe.
But the second to last session,that's always the one for me,
yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, not me, it's the, it's the
(38:01):
second session of the day.
The second session of the dayis when I'm like, okay, yeah,
I'm here, but all right.
So before we go, man, let mejust buckshot some stuff to you,
man, real quick.
Just technical issues like the,the projector's not connecting
to the thing, I'm not evennervous, I'm not even nervous,
(38:30):
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous for the university,I'm I'm nervous for the
students.
Like it's the, it's the worst,and the thing is that I don't
really need the powerpoint.
Hey, man, I can do it withoutthe powerpoint.
I would just prefer it if itwould work.
Just, just work, just work.
(38:51):
You know, let's work.
All right, all right, so.
So that's one number two.
Hey, do you, do you park wherestudents and faculty can see you
, or do you have like your ownlittle space where you park,
where, like you know, nobody canreally see?
You got your own little spot, Idon't care, man, oh, you don't
care, oh, man, I don't care man,what, what about?
(39:17):
What about bathrooms?
Now, you, you got your ownlittle spot, your own little
bathroom in there.
Or or you go to, you just Justgo to the gym pop bathroom, just
gym pop bathroom.
You go in there, you seeclients, you see students, you
see faculty.
Hey, jim, what's going on?
Jim, hey, I got your email.
Man, yeah, or you got like yourown little secluded bathroom
(39:41):
there.
Nah, man, you know what's weird,man, and I noticed this there's
not many guys in my field, butalso, like my department and
(40:02):
also my college, there's just,you know, and so it's because
there's so little of us.
It is very rare that we seeeach other in the bathroom.
I just see each other ingeneral.
Yeah, which is weird, I guessto think about Yep, yep, yep,
yep.
Anyway, anyway, all right, man,all right, all right, real
(40:22):
quick, real.
I guess to think about Yep, yep, yep, yep, anyway, anyway, all
right, man, all right, all right, real quick, real, real quick,
bro, what you got going on thisweekend.
First soccer game, first soccergame of the season.
Man, first soccer game of theseason.
This is balance.
First soccer game, first soccergame.
About to look cute in thatuniform?
Man, what time is it?
(40:43):
I don't know.
Is it Saturday, saturdaymorning?
Oh, bruh, check the time andlet us know.
We on FaceTime or something, dog, we need to figure out a way to
be able to watch the games live.
Oh, they have a live feed.
(41:03):
The U3?
You guys are connected to theU3 Recreational League ESPN
channel.
You don't have one of those.
No, we don't have one.
Oh, okay, you can watch them.
It's pay-per-view.
Oh, pay-per-view.
Okay, we'll find some time.
Hey, you know what, bro?
Yeah, we'll find some time, man.
(41:24):
Hey, you know what?
Man, before I check in, I just,you know, I just want to say a
big what's up to MalawiUniversity, man, man and the
counseling program.
Man, and we just did a guestlecture in the class, yep, and
it was fun man.
Yep, fun man, it was fun.
I wish we could have recordedit for the cast.
Oh, we should have Greatquestions, great students, good
(41:48):
faculty.
You know, and here's the thing,listener, the person who made
this possible was a graduatestudent who reached out to us.
She's amazing, nicole.
She's gone.
She's gone places.
She's gone places.
Hopefully going to SouthLouisiana because we got a
doctoral program here.
Hopefully going to theUniversity of Mary Hyde Baylor
(42:09):
when we get to Louisiana,because our doctoral program is
coming pretty soon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'llcook for you, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was fun, man, we got anotherround of that, but yeah, nah,
bro, that's all we got.
Man, we got another round ofthat, but yeah, nah bro, that's
all we got.
Man, soccer games this weekend.
So first soccer game should befun, us too, man, cairo has a
(42:32):
soccer game on Sunday morningand two football games on Sunday
afternoon.
Exhausted, it's a jamboreeJamboree.
It's a jamboree man.
Only in Louisiana do they's ajamboree Jamboree.
It's a jamboree man.
Only in Louisiana do they callsome jamborees.
They got jamborees all over theplace, man, they don't call
(42:52):
them that in Texas I haven'theard a single tournament called
a jamboree.
We got a jamboree.
Man, it's a tournament.
Man Cajun Classic it's flagfootball.
Lafayette Jamboree it's flagfootball.
He got his first soccer game ofthe season, this season on
Sunday.
We're playing a coach that Ilove, one of those coaches that
(43:14):
they don't care about winning,they just want you to do well,
Just have a good time.
If you make an improper throwin, hey, take another throw in.
This is how you do it, you know.
So, like I love playing coacheslike that.
Ain't got nothing to prove, man, yeah and uh.
And then we got flag footballafter that.
This could be your first timeplaying flag football, man, so,
uh, so yeah, we got that comingup.
Man, we got, uh, uh, the ragingcajuns playing against tulane
(43:36):
university.
Uh, on saturday, man,interesting, both your, both
your, for your, your employers.
Yeah, I just, you know Isupport where the money comes
from, you know so, uh, no, no,loyalty, yeah, no.
Man, yeah, go cages, uh, anyway, uh, no.
Man, robie just did like aafrican dance and hip-hop dance
(43:57):
tonight, you know, and hey, kof,and hey Kofi, our cutest,
littlest, littlest bundle of joy, got his first time out today.
At daycare.
He got put in time out forthrowing something.
That's right.
I gave him the biggest highfive when he came to the car.
He got put in time out today.
(44:21):
What'd he throw?
What'd he throw?
What'd he throw Now?
Which hand was it it?
Now, how far did it go?
How far did it go now?
Listen, did he rotate?
Have a spiral?
Did he rotate around like hips,like is it a?
Was it?
Did it curve or was it more?
You know, like, what was thearc on it?
Was there peak height?
Uh-huh, it was the velocity.
(44:41):
I mean, I want to know.
Yeah, I need to know what's thearc Like, I need to know these
things.
Did he, was it at something anddid he hit that thing?
Mm-hmm, what was his responseafter hitting it?
Did he celebrate?
You know what?
What are we talking about here?
You know, man, yeah, man, he'son his way, on his way.
Man, he's on his way, on hisway.
(45:01):
All right, on his way.
We're going to try to be alittle bit more consistent.
We're going to try to get thisthing out, you know, sometime
soon.
But hey, y'all please stoplistening to this, guys.
Like you know, we feel so muchpressure to get this stuff out.
If y'all would stop listeningthen we wouldn't feel any
(45:27):
pressure at now.
Turn it off, don't even finishit.
Cut it off on a serious forreal.
For real, look like this notour jobs, man, hey man, it's not
our jobs.
Hey, we're not even, hey, we'renot even really good at this.
I'm trying to, I'm trying toget paid off of this man.
I'm trying to.
No man, like, if we are, if wedo go mri for a week or two,
it's probably because we cleanand vomit up or something Like
give us a break.
You know, Isn't that like wesee in here, like let's not cast
(45:50):
and make them suffer?
Hey man, hey, come on.
Next time the stomach virusruns through my house.
I'm getting some Depends.
I don't care Dignity for what?
I have no pride, there's no egohere.
Yeah, isn't that the uh slogandepends.
I am getting some depends andgoing about my life living
(46:12):
freely.
He's gonna be teaching.
I'm gonna be teaching class.
Man, take a little pause, break, you know, hey, I thought y'all
supposed to be non-judgmental.
I thought you were supposed tobe non-judgmental.
I thought y'all were supposedto be unconditional.
Meet me where I am, meet mewhere I am.
Yeah, man, anyway, all right,y'all, we're going to see y'all
(46:37):
next week, maybe, maybe I don'tknow.
All right, maybe I don't know,alright.
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