October 2, 2024 • 58 mins
Ever wondered why a simple sandwich could stir such deep emotions? Join us as we kick off our latest episode with a passionate homage to the now-discontinued Jimmy John's Frenchie sandwich. We share our personal quests to replicate that perfect buttered baguette experience and swap stories about our quirky food cravings. Get ready for a hilarious and heartfelt session as we celebrate the foods that have left a lasting impact on us.
The conversation then takes a poignant turn as we explore the rollercoaster journey of a father dealing with his son's sudden decision to quit soccer. Through candid reflections, we discuss the balance between supporting your child’s autonomy and pushing them to confront their fears. Listen as we share strategies and tough love moments that highlight the challenges and rewards of parenting and the invaluable lessons of effort and courage.
Wrapping up the episode, we dive into the importance of resilience and competitive spirit in young athletes. We'll recount personal stories that underline how a supportive but demanding environment can nurture determination. We also touch on the critical role of therapy in recognizing one's agency and the resilience needed to rebuild after setbacks. Finally, we examine the multifaceted nature of teaching, balancing genuine care for students with professional realities. Tune in for an episode filled with humor, honesty, and touching moments!
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
hey, hey, welcome back y'all, man, we, we are back
, finally again, man, finally,finally, man, we almost we
almost made it a whole like week.
I thought it was gonna be aweek and a half, man, but I'm
gonna try to put this cast uppretty soon, you know.
So, uh, welcome back, man,we're back again.
(00:38):
Um, we're gonna start with alittle check-in, then we're
gonna do a little topic and thenwe're gonna do a little
check-in, then we're going to doa little topic and then we're
going to do a little check-out.
This is going to be a hot, hotand ready one, like Mr Getty's.
It's a hot, hot and ready man.
Mr Getty's, yeah, man, hot andready.
Wow, I don't want to disparage.
You know we're still waitingfor sponsorship, but nah, man,
(01:00):
if we did get sponsored for you,it'd probably be what?
What's that restaurant that youlike, the little sandwich place
that you always be getting?
Jimmy John's, jimmy John's man.
Hey, man, I'll be lightingJimmy John's up.
Lighting it up, man.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Lighting it up.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I tell you, bro, if they just dug a tunnel to my
office, it'd make their liveseasier.
Wow, you know what I like, dog,all right man.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Hey, we don't have time for this man.
Hold on, we don't have time forthis.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
One of our children is going to wake up and come
demand our presence.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Don't do that to him, man.
Don't do that to him.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
See, I started it.
Now he, getting all hot andbothered under the collar, start
talking about sandwiches anddeli meats, start talking about
salad and all kinds of sauces.
Look at him, he's chuffed,chuffed to bits.
(02:01):
Look at him.
Listen, man, listen to my story, bro.
So man, listen to my story, bro, so man.
So Jimmy John's used to havethis little plain, plain, plain,
like you know, the sandwichcalled the Frenchie Right.
Okay, couldn't tell you whatwas on it, but it was, it was
(02:21):
French, it was dynamite and itused to be on a baguette and
they used to butter the baguette.
So I don't know what happenedto Jimmy Johns, I don't know who
hurt him, I don't know whooffended him.
I don't know but JJ said youchanged on us Jimmy.
(02:42):
Nah, JJ said we free, so we notsaid we free, so we not doing
the Frenchie anymore.
And when I tell you.
It hurt me to my core, man, soI called my local Jimmy John's.
Yeah, you seem like one of them, types that are called local.
I called the local Jimmy John'sand I was like, hey, hey, man,
what happened to the Frenchie?
(03:02):
He said you know, we just notserving it anymore.
I said well, what happened tothe Frenchie?
I said you know, we're just notserving it anymore.
I said, well, what's theclosest equivalent?
You know, wow, slim, numberfive.
I was like man, but you knowwhat, you know what, what?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
type of sauce y'all.
I was like you know what.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm going to miss man .
I'm going to miss that butteredbread.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I'm going to miss, man, I'm going to miss that
buttered bread.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm going to miss that smathering of that butter
on that bread.
Why are you popping the mic man?
He's all up in the listener'sear, bro.
I mean, what is that butter?
What is that margarine?
(03:53):
Macalester all needs to bespiked, Spiked.
They had to cut off a heel andan elbow, but he got his
sandwich he ruined it around theelbows.
I don't think they do that withcholesterol, no elbows.
They keep talking aboutdiabetes.
(04:13):
For cholesterol, it's the inbits they cut off.
It's the in bits, just joints.
It's the in bits, just joints.
I think it's joints alright,alright you can tell it's
(04:42):
midnight when we do it.
They have to put a spigot Onthat boy's elbows, you have to
put a valve on it, anyway, so,anyway.
So I called my local JimmyJohn's and I was like look,
what's the closest equivalent Tothe Frenchie.
(05:02):
He said no, y'all not makingthe baguettes, even though Y'all
make bread everyday.
Y?
Y'all not making the baguettes,even though y'all make bread
every day.
Y'all could just make thesebaguettes.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But I didn't say nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
That's crazy work.
Y'all can't make the baguettesfor your boy.
I'm a loyal customer.
So they said, look, we could dothe slim five.
And I was like, but what aboutthe butter?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, and the guy said you know, this is what I
when you breathe, when you'rebreathing this is what I imagine
him doing.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I imagined him on the phone looking to his right,
looking to his left, and then hesaid we'll butter your bread if
you, if you, if you want that Iwas like the way you said it.
The way you said it sounds likea euphemism, but I'm going to
let you keep your job.
I said thank you kindly.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I always tip them a little extra Also.
I feel like they'd be giving methe good cookie.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Okay, you know what?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I mean Because sometimes those cookies be like
biscuits like snapping.
How much?
Because the listeners want toknow are you starting to
salivate right now?
If you are, go to your localJimmy John's dispensary and tell
(06:26):
them, tell them.
Tell them Dr Austin sent youthis.
When you get a recommendationfrom somebody to go and pick up
food at a restaurant, that isbig bakery at its finest.
That is the the biggest ofbakeries and it's finest.
Nah, man.
For real he said tell him I sentyou.
(06:49):
Nah.
But for real though, on aserious tip for real, for really
real, I'll be having themstreets hot.
I know, bro, they don't evendog dog dog.
Yeah, you know what's that appthat you use to order food.
I go straight to the source.
I go to the Jimmy John's app.
I got the app.
I'm a rewards customer, Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Damn the punch card.
I don't need a punch card.
Nah, this ain't no hobby.
I need my own credit card.
I need my Jimmy John's creditcard.
I didn't need that French loaf,you, I didn't need that French
loaf, you know?
Wow, anyway, they don't evenknock anymore, man, they don't
even knock, they just like picktheir heads on the window, you
know, just peek to the side andbe like you know, hold the bag
(07:33):
up.
You know, come on in.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah come on in.
Come on in, Jeffrey.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
What's up, jeff hey man.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Hey, how's your?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
mama, did your dad get that foot?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
thing taken care of.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You're joking man, You're joking.
You're joking.
You know that's how I am.
You know that's how I am, man,Sometimes dog, Sometimes dog.
I forget that I've ordered ityou know, Walk into my office
after a long meeting withsomebody and I see it just on my
desk.
I don't even know how they gotin.
Oh, they got a key.
I thought you give the peoplethat you love and care for a key
(08:03):
.
I don't know how they got inbut, anyway, anyway, um, that's,
that's the end of the jimmyjohns wow, this is a whole jimmy
johns commercial.
Yeah, if they don't sponsor usby now, I mean we doing all this
light work for free?
I know man for real, for anyway, let me check in real quick.
Man, um, um, hey man, hey bro,so you know, you know val is
(08:27):
playing soccer, he's three yeah,right, and he, he is on the
same team as one of my goodfriends and also my student,
right, okay, and so her kid islike two and a half turning
three, and so he's young, youknow, and it's like you three.
So valen is like two gamesfirst week won a medal, right, I
mean, your boy crushed it,right I?
(08:50):
I was not expecting that, youknow, yeah, but so I called some
scouts, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
They said they couldn't make it for the second
game, but that's whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, that's all good .
I don't know what happenedduring that game and this game,
but I knew it was a problembecause when we went to sleep he
was like Daddy, I don't everwant to play soccer again.
If you know Valen, but for thelisteners, if you don't know him
, he means what?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
he says, that's it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
He means what he says .
There's no bartering.
He said those exact words.
He said, Daddy, that's it.
He means what he says there's nobartering, there's no.
He said those exact words.
He said, daddy, I don't want toever play soccer again, wow.
And I said, okay, man, my hearthurts.
I said, all right, man, no,we'll talk about it in the
morning, thinking that so youdidn't say well, listen, I'm not
(09:43):
going to make you do anythingthat you don't want to do, and
if you don't feel like playingsoccer, then you don't have to
play soccer.
No, you said we're going to talkabout it in the morning.
Get a good night's sleep andrethink what you just said to
daddy.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Well, you, may not wake up in the room that you
were sleeping.
If you say it again.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Obviously you lost yourself.
Yeah, Maybe you can findyourself on this field here.
Yeah, because you're going towake up on midfield, yeah, you
know.
And so now, man, we woke up andhe meant what he said.
Man From the morning, he wascool about it, he wasn't like a
(10:23):
tantrum.
It was just cool, I don't wantto play soccer.
I took it, I put his jersey on,put his shoes on, socks on.
Shiloh put everybody in the car, came back he was naked.
He had already taken off hisstuff, taken off his shoes,
taken off everything.
I was like, dude, we got a game.
(10:43):
You're not going to get thesnacks.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Hey, this ain't practice Snap out of it, snap
out of it, man.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Hey, this isn't.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
No, I don't think you understand.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You don't get a choice.
You don't have a choice here.
Anyway, long story short, weget a choice.
Yeah, you don't have a choicehere.
Yeah, man.
So anyway, long story short.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Well, I said we got a game.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Long story short, he won.
He didn't play a single minute,you know.
But I told him I was like, lookman, look, you know the team,
your brother's team is named.
You know something?
Lollipops or something.
And so I was like, look man,like I'll bring lollipops for
the game.
If you play, all you got to dois try.
I don't care if you score, Idon't care if you kick the ball,
(11:29):
nothing but like you know.
And so he told me he was scared, scared of the people you know,
um, and you know which is.
You know, you know a lie,because the week before he was
(11:50):
out there crushing it know so.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So you yelled at him and said, yeah like don't lie
straight to my face, you know.
Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
No, I basically, you know and um, it's don't, don't,
don't, don't, don't lie toversus one of those those weeks
man.
And so, you know, we set himout, you know, and he was like
can I get a lollipop?
I was like nah, dude, likelollipops are for the players.
(12:14):
I'm dead serious dog.
I was like nah man.
I was like, look, look man,look you.
You can make a choice right now.
Look like I know you're scared,but there's no reason for you
to be scared.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
There's no reason for you to be scared.
You have everything you needinside of you to go out there
and play.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
He didn't say anything, because I don't think
he really understood what I wassaying, but I was just playing
the seeds.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, it's just a.
Understood what I was saying,but I was just planting the
seeds.
Yeah, it's just a seed that youplant.
I was like I love you.
I was like you harvest it nextseason.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I was like you see that girl over there.
She's my student and she's anamazing person and she loves you
.
I was like you see that personover there.
I was like I know that person.
We went to school together.
I was like you see the ref.
He's a student at theuniversity I work at.
If he makes a bad call, I willkick him out of the university.
(13:10):
That's how much we love you.
You got everything you need.
I was like, listen to me, faceyour fear and you are making a
choice.
I'm fixing to run through thiscomputer screen man, you are
(13:31):
making a choice, you're gettingme hyped man, I'm about to bust
through these walls in front ofyou right now, man.
Listen, listen, listen.
I brought these lollipops.
Yeah, and you will have earnedthem.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I broughtthese lollipops and you will
have earned them if you get outthere.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'm trying to get me a lollipop man.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You brought me here to get me hype like this.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
These are already your lollipops man.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
All you have to do is choose to take it.
I'm trying to win a U3championship, baby you know.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
But choose to take it .
I'm trying to boss Paul in thethree U division.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And he didn't.
He didn't man, and I hit himwith that, kim Coggins.
I hit him with that, kim, thevery second.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You chose not to try was the second you chose not to
have a lollipop.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Meanwhile, I love you enough to not give you this
lollipop, because if I give itto you, it's going to reinforce
me.
Ken's got four lollipops in mytime.
You better listen to him.
You better listen to him.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You better listen to him, Jack you better listen to
him.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
McDog, I'm eating all of my lollipops now he's
sitting there sucking on themlollipops.
When daddy starts spouting offthat you got everything within
you, you better listen to him.
He putting belt to ass.
After this, it's gonna be beltto ass if you don't get on that
field.
Trust me, big dog.
(15:03):
And to his credit, man, he, he,he accepted it, you know, he.
I said I would say look, look,look.
If you want to stop, if youdon't want me to get you to try
anymore, that's fine, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
But look, you're going to sit in the sideline and
we're going to cheer for theteam.
You know we're going to like.
You know we're gonna like.
You know whatever I was like,but listen, man and dog, and it
hurts, it hurt me hurt me to thecore dog after the game.
They had some good snacks.
I'm talking full size snickerbar.
(15:37):
Good snacks man and he lookedat me and said, daddy, can I get
a snack?
And I was like dude.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, the snacks are for the players yeah, big dog.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, bruh, bruh.
What am I supposed to do?
What am I supposed to do?
What am I supposed to do?
I was like, look, hey, nextweek we'll try again.
Them, ceruse, bruh, next weekwe'll try again.
I don't make the rules, nextweek we'll try again.
(16:08):
We got home, made him breakfast, made him some french toast
eggs you know how he likes itwith the hazelnut cream, you
know, instead of the milk, justlike he likes it.
And then, right before he bit it, you threw it against the wall
and said only winners eat eggs,Because the eggs are for players
(16:30):
.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Nah, I'm doing this because I love you.
Nah, nah, bro.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Seriously had a good morning and we talked about it
the whole day, talked about itthe whole the rest of the day.
Dawg I'm sitting in there, youknow, and I'm like, dude, what
was so scary about the play?
What was so scary about thepeople?
you know, Talked about it, dawgHours pass, you know.
I was like, hey, man, have youthought about what you can do to
face your fear next week?
You know, like just all of thestuff you do, dog.
(16:59):
But in that moment, man, I wasin a different world and it was
me and him.
I didn't even know whereLindsey was, it was just me and
him.
Bruh.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Where were the other kids at?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Huh Huh, what, what?
No, I, I is that.
Huh huh, what what?
No, I I start starting fires,dude hood that stuff with my
friends.
Strong property, nah, man,anyway, bro, that was, that was,
that was that was me, bro, thatwas my weekend, man, wow, yeah
(17:31):
yeah meanwhile your kids gettingalmost kicked out and red
carded and yellow card oh yeah,man, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
cairo, yeah, cairo had a so rubyruby's doing dance, man, she
loves it, man loves it dog whenI tell you like man man, the she
goes to this.
Uh, she goes to this.
This dance academy that wasvoted the best, the best dance
(17:55):
academy in Acadiana, right?
And it's this black-owned danceacademy where it's all black
girls, right.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I cannot tell you how sacred of a space that is for
these girls, man space that isfor these girls.
Man, like um man the second,the door opens and they walk
into the dance studio.
Man, it's like you know, it'slike they, they have the the
freedom to be themselves.
You know, without, withoutanybody like watching or judging
(18:26):
, judging you know whatever.
Yeah, Without you know, any ofthat stuff?
you know, not any of that stuff,you know.
So man like robie, well, wewalked into into the thing, man,
robie like frolicked into thisplace, right, and there's an
african drumming, uh, class.
That's to the back of it andthat's taught by one of megan's
cousins, um, and like just aprominent member of the
(18:46):
community, you know.
And um, yeah, man, so robiewent there.
She wants him to do the africandrumming, because we went there
a little early, you know.
And so you know she's dancing.
I'm, I'm, like, you know, liketelling her, like oh yeah, daddy
used to play these drums too,you know, whatever.
And then her teacher came, pick, came like, said, you know,
like hey, we're ready.
And so she gave me a big hug,gave me a kiss, and she just
(19:07):
like went into the class and,like I can, as I was walking
past the class, I can see, seeher like drop her bag, like look
at herself in the mirror.
You know like just check outlike her face and like all this
stuff.
You know I was like ugh.
It's invaluable to have like aplace where you know like,
especially like young Blackgirls can, like you know, have a
(19:30):
space where, like, they're notcomparing themselves you know,
um yeah yeah, man, so, uh, soshe does.
She does african hip-hop, uh,ballet and tap, I believe.
Yeah, um, yeah, so it's, it'slegit, man.
It kind of makes me miss ourtime when we was dancing at
Grace Hamilton.
(19:51):
You know, would you say thatagain?
It makes me miss our time whenyou and I were dancing at Grace
Hamilton School of the Arts.
Simon, I don't recall.
You don't remember us dancingat the academy, for you don't
remember that.
Nah, I don't remember.
(20:11):
Nah, okay, you don't rememberour nipples being out.
You don't remember that.
No, I don't remember.
You don't remember our nipplesbeing out.
You don't remember our nipplesdangling out of the costumes.
You don't remember the snappingof the leotard.
Yeah, man, good times, man.
You don't remember your nipplemeat being all out on display.
(20:35):
Why they put us in that uniform, bro.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
No idea man.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
We didn't consent to that, bro.
We did a whole for years wewere training for this recital.
Man, and show up on the day ofyeah, all our cousins came to
watch.
Yeah, all our cousins Fromwatch.
Yeah, all our cousins from thehood hood, I saw that.
Our hood cousins came to watch.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I saw that and I was like where's the rest of?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
it.
Yeah, this it, jay, this it.
Yeah.
You see that little snappy bitat the bottom.
Yeah, snap that together, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I was like where is the rest of?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
it you sitting there like why is it so airy, Please?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
no, why is it so airy ?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Like jeez, I barely got anything on it's drafty in
here.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
We did it, though we did it.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
All that nipple meat ain't dangling out there, man.
We did it and we did it though,Anyway.
So, yeah, bro, we did it and hedid it though, Anyways, yeah,
bro.
So yeah, Cairo had soccer too,you know, and you know he's
playing at he's seven years old,he's playing at 9U and yeah,
(21:52):
just you know, because Cairo hadthat too when he was younger,
of like, you know, a little bitof like timidness, you know,
like I'm not gonna play hard,you know.
And then that's completelyshifted and me and megan had
megan had this one talk with himafter a game when he was a
little timid.
It goes against everything Istand for.
She was talking to him afterthe game in the car on the way
back.
Oh, no, dog, yeah, that's asacred space man.
She was letting him have it.
(22:14):
Letting him have it, man.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I can hear it I can hear it.
Boy, you let us pay all thismoney.
You let us spend all this moneyon this rest of the stretch.
You made us get Air Jordansoccer cleats.
You didn't even make Air Jordansoccer cleats.
Sitting there, not even playing.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You know, I'm going to wear those cleats Because,
you don't know, it was actuallylike really self-affirming and
like really, like you know,positive and like speaking life
into it.
Man, like I'm talking aboutspeaking life into it and after
that one conversation he hascompletely changed man.
Now he's on the field, like youknow, speaking life into him,
and after that one conversationhe has completely changed man
Now.
Now he's on the field, like youknow, speaking death and the
(22:57):
other players, yeah, man, it'sgetting out of hand, it's
getting out of hand.
It's getting out of hand Likethe referee was a referee when
we were playing Right.
You remember that little shark,little shark lady.
Yeah, little chart lady, yeah,wow, yeah, she, she reffed
(23:20):
Cairo's game this weekend.
Wow, yeah, I saw her.
I gave her a hug.
She gave me a hug.
She was like oh my god, she'slike you mean to tell me I'm now
refereeing your son.
I was like, yeah, yeah man I waslike how long have you been
refereeing?
She was like since like 96.
I was like, yeah, that's aboutwhen we started playing.
You know, yeah, man, yeah, yeah, she had to Like it was three
(23:41):
violations where Kyra was justlike man.
So he was playing super hard,man Like super hard.
Kyra's one of the better kidson the team.
He isn't a striker, but thisseason he's a striker.
This is one of the firstseasons where I'm like yo, yeah,
(24:02):
we do this thing calledpractice after practice.
The chasm between how good hewas to how good he is now
because of those practices afterpractice man, just me and him
doing like ball work and stufflike that man, it's crazy.
Yeah, it's probably becausethat's like the only time you
(24:23):
ever spend time with him.
Well, the only time is that Ispend time with him is if he's
working towards the goal thatI'm, that I set for him, which
is to let me live.
I set for him, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
NIL, which is to let me live through him.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, vicariously, yeah let me live through and
then cash out on him when he'slike 22, 23.
Yeah, yeah.
He's got a good Instagramfollowing.
Yes, I don't understand why youwould have kids to.
You want to raise themhealthily.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I mean some people Just be present.
No, raise him healthily.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You know, I mean some just be present some.
No, no, no no no, no, no, weain't trying to get scholarships
.
No, no, no.
Yeah, okay, I'm trying to, I'mtrying to, I'm trying to, I'm
trying to use and abuse my kids.
Uh, so I can go ahead and getme a, maybe a nice little car,
got it?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
thank you for that all right, clip it, clip it, nah
man, nah nah, he just, he justplayed, he just plays really
hard man, it's just, it's goodto All right, clip it, clip it,
nah man.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Nah, nah, he just plays really hard man.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It's good to see man.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So in the middle of the game, me and Kyra argue on
the field, right.
So I yell at him, he yells backat me.
I yell at him, he yells back atme Not anything vicious, it's
just like you know.
Yeah, no, it's just superhealthy.
Yeah, no, it's just like cairo.
You're creating too much spacebetween an attack and I'm
midfield and he goes back.
I know I'm telling rj to move,you know, just like you know.
(25:40):
So I told him.
I was like cairo, come here.
He's like what, what?
Like the play was going on, Iwas like come here.
We should, we should tell thelisteners that, like you know,
this is all through cb radio.
This isn't you're not.
Tell the listeners that, likeyou know, this is all through CB
radio.
This isn't, this is all throughwalkie talkie yeah, yeah, yeah
(26:04):
this is all through.
You know those sprint walkietalkie phones, that was the
little chirpers, the littlechirps.
Yeah, this is all through yeahnah, man, look, I just called
him over dog and I like grabbedhis face.
I was like, dude, I'm so proudof you.
And I can tell he like kind of,oh yeah, didn't want to smile,
but like was smiling.
(26:25):
I'm like dude, I cannot tellyou how proud I am of you.
Dude, you keep working hard.
I'm so proud of him.
He just kept the momentum upthe whole game.
We won the game.
I think it was 3-1 or whatever.
There were some pivotal times inthe game where the other team
got a penalty kick, the otherteam missed the penalty kick and
(26:47):
Kyra yells how did he miss fromthere?
Exactly, dog, exactly.
I was like oh, oh, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, dog, we're
already up two goals.
Kyra scores another goal rightand he does a uh round off
backflip by the opposing fansand I was like no, no, oh, no,
(27:11):
no, no, no, no, no, no.
I would have sat him down if wehad subs.
What have I done?
I would have sat him down if wehad subs, dog.
But not only did we not havesubs, but we was playing down a
man.
Yeah, you know.
So then at the end of the game,the ref blows the whistle, we
shake hands, or whatever.
Kyra walks to the opposingbench and he goes losers.
(27:32):
Wow, hands.
Or whatever.
Cairo walks to the opposingbench and he goes losers.
I was like Cairo, get over here, get over here.
So I had to have a conversationwith him.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I had to make him understand.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You got to point at them when you say and you don't
just say losers, you say you'rea loser and you're a loser and
you're a loser.
Yeah, dog.
Genuinely, these kids were likethese kids were sad and like we
were.
You know, I'm that type ofcoach that like hey, man, we're
out here to learn.
You know, if you do, if you doan improper throwing, I'm not
(28:07):
going to be like hey, get theball pick it up, run, run, run.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I I'm picking up.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Run, run, run.
I'm going to be like, hey,let's just look at the graph and
say hey, let's do it again.
Take out the ball.
Let's do it again.
Everybody out here is trying tolearn.
Cairo is like I don't care ifwe're trying to learn, I'm
trying to win.
Jack, I am trying to win Cairois like do all that teaching
stuff.
Do all that teaching stuff whenwe go up two or three goals.
(28:30):
Teach and stuff.
Do all that teaching stuff whenwe go up two or three goals.
I even help out the other teamCarl hates that stuff.
And now I'm realizing that, man, they're at the age right now
where they're making atransition from oh yeah, we're
out here to have fun to no,we're trying to win hey bro hey,
(28:55):
man, hey, let me ask you thisquestion.
Maybe this will bring it to thetopic.
You know and I know we'realready out of time you know,
how much of your clients' issuesdo you think would be solved
with the losing season?
I don't think any one of myclients can handle the intensity
(29:17):
of being an athlete.
But here's the thing.
No, no, no, no, I lie.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
One client, one client that I have is this
feisty girl from LA.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
But just to take an L, just tolearn how to take an.
L no, they can't.
I don't know if we talked aboutthis in the cast or not, but
what I'm saying is dog, not now.
I'm not saying like as they arenow, if they have a losing
(29:51):
season.
Do you think I'm saying whenthey're like four or five?
No, bro.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
This is what I think, and they took some L's.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
This is the shift right.
Last weekend, kyra had a soccergame and two flag football
games and he lost all three ofthem.
Yeah, right, kyra came backhome and he said, no, we were on
the field.
And Kyra looked at me and said,daddy, I lost every single game
I played this weekend.
When we get home, can wepractice After playing three
(30:22):
games?
That's the difference.
I think my clients would havebeen like Dog.
No, I think it's systemic,right.
Yeah, I think it's systemic,right.
Yeah, I think it's systemic,right.
Yeah, you know, like, rememberthat real bad season we had
where we were-.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Oh, for Cosmos, Cosmos.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
yeah, I mean we almost quit, you know, because
it was just like you know, andthen the next season we went
unbeaten, yeah, you know likeundefeated, yeah, and but there
was something about, like ourenvironment that was set up to
allow us to, like, integrate theelse without internalizing it
(31:09):
do you get what I'm saying no,yeah, I internalized it, but in
the right way, in like aconstructive way.
Nah, for me it was completelyunhealthy.
What do you mean?
For me, it was like I'm notgoing back on this field ever
again until I feel like I willnever lose another game.
(31:29):
But that's constructive is whatI'm saying.
No, it's unhealthy.
No, no, no, dog, nah, that'sconstructive is what I'm saying?
No, it's unhealthy.
No, no, no, no, that to me isunhealthy.
No, that to me is is is like amotivational type of destruction
, you know no I think, I think,I think what most people do is
they say oh man, it's just, it'sjust a game.
See, I think that's unhealthy.
(31:51):
I think that's unhealthy.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I think that's unhealthy Because your system
isn't no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I think you're completely skewed and screwed.
No, no, no, dog, because yoursystem isn't set up in a way
that allows you to see theperspective.
You know, because, like dog,there's some kids out there.
You and me know that, like itwas just a game for them, but it
wasn't a game for us, but thatkid couldn't look around and go.
(32:22):
I know it's just a game for me,but it's not a game for my
teammates.
So I need to either leave ormatch their energy.
And to me, to me.
I blame the parents, you know,seriously for not giving them
that perspective on like ofcourse it's just a game.
(32:45):
But also, it ain't just a game,dog.
When did Mama and Daddy eversit us down and say like it's?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
not just a game.
I know they didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I know they didn't, I know they didn't, but there was
something about our environmentthat allowed us to go.
I want to make them all feelthe way I felt at the end of
this season next season.
Yeah, not just the players.
I want the parents to questionwhether or not they should put
(33:17):
their kids in this in this teamnext season.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I want, I want the parents to think.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I want the parents to be like is it even worth
spending this much money If theycan just get their ass beat by?
You know?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
the cosmos every season.
I know I, you know the cosmosevery season.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I know, I know like our parents didn't instill that
in us, you know, but I'm sayinglike they have that hour.
You know inside of them that wewitness either vicariously or
you know, like face to face,watching them handle adversity
and climbing up ladders and andgoing broke and building it up
(33:53):
and yada, yada, yada, whether ornot we knew it or not, whether
or not they express it to us.
Just being around it, I think,allowed us to be able to go.
Because, doc, seriously, whenwe had that losing season and we
went home, nobody talked to usabout it.
(34:13):
No, we didn't about it.
No, we didn't process it.
There was no process, noprocess.
But we did get cones, yeah, andwe did build a wall.
We did build a wall.
We did get some soccer goals.
We got soccer goals, yeah,quietly, yeah, nobody said
anything to us, but we did get aparachute, yeah, you know, we
(34:35):
did get some ladders.
Yeah, we did get ankle weights,uh-huh, you know and then ankle
weights, remember those shoesyeah, dog, all of that stuff,
man, no, no, remember running upthe roof, bruh, bruh, nobody
said anything, but there was hotham sandwiches waiting for us
when we got there.
You know what I mean.
(34:56):
Like, like, I'm just saying,like you know, I don't know and
I don't.
I genuinely, I genuinely do notthink that my current caseload
and this is no shade you don'thave, you don't have to have
that dog in you, you don't haveto, but I, I genuinely think
(35:19):
that I have, maybe I have two,two, maybe two or three clients
on my caseload that got that dogin them that if they, if they,
got punched in the teeth by ateam, they would continue to get
up and it, and I don't think alot of clients in my case, I
think a lot of clients in mycase, though, would say why am I
(35:39):
even taking this so seriously?
It's just a game.
I'm not going pro, I'm just outhere trying to have fun with my
friends.
This is so silly to even betaking this so personally, I had
a lot of fun.
I feel privileged to even movemy body the way that I moved it.
I feel privileged to be outsideof the sun.
(36:03):
I'm going to sign up next seasonif I feel like playing.
I genuinely think that's wherethey're at and that's okay.
Listen, listen.
Do you think they would bewhere they are now like clients,
you know, struggling withanxiety, depression, whatever if
they went through a losingseason with support and when I
(36:27):
say support I don't mean likeprocessing through it, I mean
somebody to be like, hey, lookat the scoreboard.
No, not only look at thescoreboard.
Remember this, remember thisfeeling clients cannot handle
that right, you really clientscan't handle that you really
think at like a three and a fiveyear old age, like like raising
(36:50):
?
Them in that way.
No, I don't know they are.
They are crackable at that age.
They got the day you, they, whendo they develop the don't wants
?
This is the.
We have practice after practice, every practice and every
practice.
Cairo invites his teammates tocome practice after practice.
(37:11):
His teammates mess around withthe ball, they kick around, they
have fun, whatever they'relaughing and joking.
When his teammates leave andit's me and him on the field,
kyra looks at me and says I wantto be the last person on this
field.
He said to me the other week Iwant to be the last person on
this park.
We played until we couldn't seethe ball anymore.
(37:32):
We did drills.
We had to put a bench down sohe can kick the ball against the
bench.
And that's what I'm saying.
We ran drill after drill afterdrill after drill after drill
after drill after drill afterdrill after drill.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Drill after drill after drill after drill after
drill after drill after drill,drill after drill after drill.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Like when his little friends left and the team left
and everybody keyed in hard offthe field and I come on, we got
homework you know, whatever Likehe drill after drill after
drill, it was eight, 30 beforewe left the field.
We made it back home.
He took a shower, he ate, hefinished homework.
He woke up the next morning at6 am to read his books and then
(38:17):
he did his AR testing.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
He missed recess to do his AR testing.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Not everybody has that dog in them like that, I'm
not doing anything as a parent.
Can that be manifested?
Can that be manifested?
Can that be developed?
Can it be?
No, I think it is inherited.
I think it is inherited.
(38:48):
I'm not sitting there saying,as a matter of fact, I'm the one
saying hey, dude, you don'thave to go to the AR party.
You already got your AR pointsfor the thing.
Hey, dude, we don't have topractice on Thursdays, just
practicing on Tuesdays is goingto help I know, but I don't
think you hear what I'm saying.
I don't think you hear what I'msaying, darling, I don't think
(39:09):
you hear what I'm saying.
Help me, help me, hear you.
I just think it's maybe aboveyou.
I think you're putting a littlebit too much like extra little
sauce on the clients, on theclient's potential here.
I think you got a little bittoo much belief.
(39:30):
Too much belief, too much hope.
Yeah, you got too much of that.
And these clients, they boughttheir life.
These clients are not abouttheir life.
These clients want nice, happylives.
They want nice happy, easylives.
Man, yeah, they're not tryingto be uncomfortable.
(39:51):
You have to seek that out, Iknow that, I know that, but
that's what I'm saying dog,that's what I'm saying If there
was a way to instill thatgravitational pull towards that
struggle I mean real struggle,not like this manifested
(40:13):
struggle that you get when youactually, when you actually
create a solution to yourproblem, solution to your
problems, that's like that thatbecomes the problem you know,
and then now that's the strugglewe're talking about in session.
Yeah, we're talking about thestruggle you've manifested for
your own self so you actuallydon't have to face a deeper
(40:37):
issue in your life.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about people beingwilling to actually turn that
boat into the wind in session.
But there's just so many timesin session where I feel like
what a client needs is Toexperience ails In a supportive,
(41:01):
and I don't mean I don't meanwhat's the right word.
I don't mean like a pacifyingEnvironment, but an environment
that does say like, yeah, like,take that, ale, nah, yeah, nah,
don't get up, don't take yourshoes off.
I want you to feel everything.
(41:24):
Remember this feeling.
You know, stand.
It's like one of those thingslike what did you do after
breakup?
You know, dog, I, dog.
I think that there are certainpeople I have two clients in
mind who say after I break upI'm about to lose weight, I'm
about to take care of myself,I'm about to eat better, I'm
about to drink better, I'm aboutto get more education.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, because maybe she was right.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Maybe she was right.
That's my point.
That's my point.
That's my point.
My point is Kyra lost everysingle game and he was like I
tried my hardest and I stilllost the ball.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Don't lie, the ball don't lie.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I tried my hardest and we still lost it.
Ain't it ain't.
It's not enough.
Oh, we had fun out here.
No, I tried my hardest.
Maybe I need to try harder.
Maybe I need to get better.
What can I do to get better?
Oh, I need to go practice.
Yeah, I don't think.
I think what most people do isthey say I just went through a
(42:27):
hard breakup.
I need just a little bit oftime to kind of sit on the bench
and like catch my bearings, youknow, and like maybe, like you
know, maybe focus on myself alittle bit more.
But I don't know how to focuson myself.
I've never been outside of arelationship before.
All I know is me that's been ina relationship.
I don't know how to.
(42:47):
Yeah, and I think it takes avery special type of person to
be like.
Maybe that person was right,maybe there are some things
within me that I need to changeand I just, like you know not
just like just wholewholehearted, just swallow that.
No, no, no no, but I do like alegit introspective look at like
what, what were the things thatwere right?
(43:11):
What, what were?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
the things that were wrong.
It does.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
It does take it takes like it takes some courage, man
Like you know, like so manytimes, like you know, I'm in
supervision, you know, and it'syou know, my supervisors, who
listen to the podcast are goingto be like, yep, you know.
But there's so many times insupervision where, like, like
I'm saying, basically I'm sayingpeople's top dogs, you know,
(43:36):
like I'm saying like some grimystuff, you know, like mean, you
know, and it feels like mysupervisees I don't think
they're shocked at all right now, even my students anymore, you
know, but it's like, bro, that'swhat you're saying, that's what
the clients are saying tothemselves yeah, can they hear
that?
You know, because if they canhear it and like receive it,
(43:59):
then they can handle hearingtough stuff out in the world.
Maybe, yeah, and maybe theycan't.
Maybe they can't though, maybethey can't.
And I'm not saying I have anabundance of hope for clients.
I do feel like, though, at somepoint, that's what we're
talking about in therapy.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
That's what it all boils downto.
That's what we're talking aboutin therapy.
(44:20):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
That's what it all boils down to.
That's what it all boils downto.
Yeah, what are they reallytalking about here?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Like are you getting back up or are you staying down?
Yeah, hey, it's fine either way.
Either way it's fine.
Either way it's fine.
It's fine either way, I thinksome clients are like I think I
need to take a little break.
I think daddy needs a littlebreak.
Meanwhile me and you would belike break Nah, man Nah.
(44:49):
I think the response is usuallylike I don't think I can join
you down there.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Join you down there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (45:05):
mean yeah, yeah, I find a therapist who will.
I want that for you.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
I don't because I don't, man, Idon't know how long you're
going to be down there, butthere's times where I see it in
a client.
They haven't seen it yet.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
There's one that I meet everyother Friday.
Every other Friday.
Yeah, like they don't know ityet, and there's sometimes
there's like supervisees, youknow, and I think I talked to
(45:35):
some of them today about that,you know like you don't see it
yet you got that dog.
While I'm trying, I'm trying tofeed it.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I'm like, yeah, raw meat.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
I'm just leaving little tidbits, you know, until
you find yourself to the ropesand you pull yourself back up.
Yeah, man.
Like and the same thing withclients, dog.
And when I tell you, dog, whena client recognizes it's the
best, oh it.
A client recognizes it's thebest, oh man, it's the best,
it's the best, and they takecontrol of their lives in a way
(46:07):
that they've never taken controlof their lives before.
They have some agency and sometribe and they be saying stuff
like I just thank you for allyou have on my head.
I just bear witness, child,just bet, I just bear witness,
child.
I just bear witness.
I didn't do nothing, shag, Ijust bear witness.
(46:28):
You did all the work.
No, it wouldn't be possiblewithout you.
No, no, you had to eat dirt andyou had to stand up on your own
two feet and be like I don'tlike the way this dirt tastes.
Man, yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah man, yeah For real, yeah For real.
I think that dog within us isinherited.
Thank you, um, but dog, but canyou do you reckon, and I know
(47:55):
we gotta go.
I know we gotta go because Igotta do some work, man, and I
know you don't.
You about to get fired from onejob?
Um, yeah, barely startinganother one, yeah, and them boys
asking for their technologyback.
Real quick.
They sent me their own boxestalking about give me our stuff
back, hey, but, but, um, do yourecognize it in the first
session?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Oh, I recognize it, I recognize it in the.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I recognize it in the voicemail they leave when I
miss their call.
Yeah, I forget, you neveranswered a call in the voicemail
they leave when I miss theircall.
I forget you never answer thecall in the first ring.
You just want to see howdetermined they are.
I want to see how determinedman, If you leave a voicemail,
then yeah, I may think aboutputting you on the case.
If you don't leave a voicemail,you don't want this work.
You don't want this work.
(48:38):
Don't summon me unless you'reready for that pain.
Do want this work.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
you don't you don't want this work?
Don't summon me.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Unless you're ready for that pain, do not summon me.
I was all ready for that pain.
He waited for a text messageand then he goes yeah, you're
ready, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I mean not seriously,seriously, seriously.
Yeah, I think I think you canrecognize it in the first
session.
Yeah, not in the air, not in anarrogant way.
It's just that, like you, youstart training your ear, like I
tell students right, like withyour theoretical orientation,
it's really just like how you'retraining your ear to hear
(49:07):
things and listen to things, youknow what I mean yeah yeah,
like you, you know, like, uh,I'm just coming to you because
my, you know, my, my girlfriendbroke up with me and uh, well,
so, so now what?
yeah, I think the worst is thesounding board one, or the
advice one, or the I need sometools for my toolbox one.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
I mean, we talked about this in other casts.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
I'm here to get over that relationship.
Why do you want to get over it?
Don't you want it to lingeraround for a while?
Don't you want to look at thatscoreboard?
Don't you want to learn from it?
Yeah, but I got one client man,I know he probably doesn't
listen to this cast, but I gotone client who, uh is, uh, he's
building the type of life thathe wants for himself.
(49:53):
Yeah, brick by brick, yeah bybrick and by, and he is
suffering and you just mixingthe suffering for it, just
mixing that I'm talking yeah, itis the.
It is the hardest hero story,the hardest here I'm talking.
I'm talking he's getting, uh,denied jobs.
(50:15):
He's getting accepted jobs.
He's getting stuff pulled awayfrom him.
He's getting the rug pulled outfrom underneath him.
He's fighting and clawing tobuild the type of life he wants.
Bro, when I tell you, I show upevery single week for this
client, every single week forthis client, man like I, brick
(50:35):
by brick, man, that's, that'sthe type of therapy I'm trying
to.
But, man, that's the type oftherapy that I get.
I get, I'm.
I'm fitting to run through thiswall.
Jt, I'm fitting to run throughthis wall man, just for the
listener's sake, there's nowalls in his, he's just outside.
yeah, yeah, I'm outside, yeah,we outside you're anyway.
(50:56):
Uh, yeah, nah, man Like thosetypes of clients, man, I'm like,
yeah, I see that I see it?
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, I see it.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, and I would say other clients who I don't see
that in.
I'm not going to lie man, I'min session like you, and I both
know that you're not reallygoing to do anything to like
change your circumstances, thatyou're not going to do anything
to change your circumstances.
We've whittled down to thecentral tenets of your life.
(51:27):
We found out what it is andyou're not willing, to be
uncomfortable, to do anythingabout it.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
I'm not saying that's bad.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
I'm not saying that you're a horrible person, it's
just at this time, right now thecost of changing is too steep,
it's too steep.
It's too steep, it's too steep.
The benefits from staying thesame is too rich.
Oh, it's too rich, man, you getso much from it.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
You may not recognize it that way, but that's.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, man, yeah, so who am I to force you to change
if it's going to cause so muchpain?
Exactly, you got to respectthat, got to respect.
Anyway, let's do some checkouts, man.
We already been going on waytoo long, bro.
What you got coming up throughthe pipeline, man, what you got.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
We got a keynote speech.
Man Got the keynote speech forthe Louisiana Counseling
Association.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Was it October 15th?
I don't know what time that is,man, I know it was early in the
morning.
They haven't given us a timeyet.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Oh, maybe they did, maybe nine something yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
You can go on the LCA website and you can check out
when all the keynote speakersare speaking.
There's a couple of keynotesevery, every.
I think there's one keynoteevery day.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
We're the last one.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, or we're the Tuesday keynote Tuesday, oh so
cool yeah yeah, yeah.
So hey, man, if you're in theLake Charles area on October
15th, come check us out.
We're going to be out therehaving a lot of fun.
Yeah, and I think we'll be doinga book signing afterwards as
well.
Yeah, lot of fun.
Yeah, I think I think we'll bedoing a book signing afterwards
as well.
Yeah, I'm doing a book signingafterwards too.
So, yeah, man, that's some fun,we don't?
(53:05):
We have an article in thepipeline too.
Yeah, man, hopefully we'll hearback from that soon, man, to
update y'all on that publication.
Been trying to get that thingpublished for a couple years now
.
Yeah, that and uh, we got uh,some books, some books coming
out book proposals.
We're waiting to hear back fromthe publishers.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, but I'm tired, boss.
Did you see that they?
Speaker 2 (53:24):
wanted us to go that direction with the master
students, like, instead of itbeing-.
Oh, she emailed us back.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, a while ago though.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Oh no, no, no, I emailed her.
I emailed her and, yeah, wetalk.
Wait, you don't be checking theemails.
I don't I see whatever crumbsyou allow me to see, randomly,
you'll get up there and youdon't leave things read or
unread, you just be.
You probably didn't even put itin a folder.
(53:57):
Y'all see how he talking to mey'all.
Y'all see how abusive he is.
He gets real controlling whenit comes to his inbox.
I just don't understand how youdo this, man.
I don't get it because an emailcomes in.
Witness the abuse.
An email comes in.
Witness the abuse.
He has his hand up right now.
(54:18):
I'm trying to get him fired.
Y'all you know what.
We don't even have time forthis, that's how he is with his
supervisees too.
Your supervisee.
He is sound off, he abusive, hebeat us.
Just very simply, you know,Just very simply, hey GS, you
read an email, put it in afolder and tell me about it, so
(54:41):
we don't just have loose emailsjust floating around the inbox.
Hey man, I don't like the wayyou said loose, like that you
just be letting them fly.
I'd be looking in the emailinbox.
It's like are these answered ornot answered?
Have they been?
You know been?
You know my bad JT?
(55:02):
I will try my hardest to makesure that you are aware of my
whereabouts in our inbox.
I will do better.
Nah, you know what?
You know what?
Jt?
That's it.
That's it.
You only got viewing privilegesright now.
That's it for a month.
You see how controlling he is?
True, that's it for a month.
You see how controlling he is,that's it for a month.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
He couldn't wait to control it.
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
I'm finished.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
I'm finished, I'm done.
I can't take it anymore.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
He's throwing stuff y'all.
He just took a swing at the dog.
I know it's a rescue dog.
He just took a swing at the dogman.
Hey, gotta report him to thepeople Nah, man Nah Nah yeah.
(55:59):
All right, we gotta go.
We really gotta go.
Man, we can't promise we'regonna have this thing out, uh,
you know, uh anytime soon, andwe don't know when.
We gonna cast again y'all y'allknow our heart.
I've been trying to get someconsistency in our casting man,
but every time I talk to you no,I gotta do the thing at the
(56:21):
thing and all you hear is areyou golfing right now?
No, no, no, no.
Why would you think that?
No, daddy got to keep thatsingle digit handicap.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
And then you hear cart path, Cart path.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
Is that the golf cart ?
No, no, anyway, man, alright,we'll see y'all, talk to y'all,
hear from y'all at some point.
You got any final words youwant to add.
We appreciate the love and theflexibility cause you know,
sometimes it be like that.
That's how we are.
(57:01):
It's not going to come outweekly.
This is not what we have in ourlives.
Yeah, we're going to try tomake it come out.
We're going to try to make it.
Just know that it's Jude, it isme.
It is me because you arepressed for time.
I'm a busy boy.
Busy boy got a lot of stuff yougot to do man A lot of folks
(57:25):
need your attention.
Man, I have a schedule,schedule, a schedule.
My schedule is packed.
Yep, yep, yep.
It's all written in crayon, butfor real it's because I care
about my students and I meetwith them.
Oh, yeah, okay, wow, okay, I'mcutting that out.
Yeah, cutting that out.
I just want my students to knowfrom the bottom of my heart.
(57:48):
No, as a matter of fact, youknow, just to the listeners, I'm
meeting with your students now,Jesus.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
That's how bad it is, yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like to.
I like to get them good andcorrupted before they get out
there.
It's not bad, it is yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Good and corrupted.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, anyway, from the bottom of my heart, I can
care less about my students.
If y'all are listening, uh,yeah, they feel guys are the.
Yeah, the furthest thing.
I'm only here for the money.
This is it, anyway, we got togo bro.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
We'll see y'all later , thank you.
hey, hey, welcome back y'all, man, we, we are back
, finally again, man, finally,finally, man, we almost we
almost made it a whole like week.
I thought it was gonna be aweek and a half, man, but I'm
gonna try to put this cast uppretty soon, you know.
So, uh, welcome back, man,we're back again.
(00:38):
Um, we're gonna start with alittle check-in, then we're
gonna do a little topic and thenwe're gonna do a little
check-in, then we're going to doa little topic and then we're
going to do a little check-out.
This is going to be a hot, hotand ready one, like Mr Getty's.
It's a hot, hot and ready man.
Mr Getty's, yeah, man, hot andready.
Wow, I don't want to disparage.
You know we're still waitingfor sponsorship, but nah, man,
(01:00):
if we did get sponsored for you,it'd probably be what?
What's that restaurant that youlike, the little sandwich place
that you always be getting?
Jimmy John's, jimmy John's man.
Hey, man, I'll be lightingJimmy John's up.
Lighting it up, man.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Lighting it up.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I tell you, bro, if they just dug a tunnel to my
office, it'd make their liveseasier.
Wow, you know what I like, dog,all right man.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Hey, we don't have time for this man.
Hold on, we don't have time forthis.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
One of our children is going to wake up and come
demand our presence.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Don't do that to him, man.
Don't do that to him.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
See, I started it.
Now he, getting all hot andbothered under the collar, start
talking about sandwiches anddeli meats, start talking about
salad and all kinds of sauces.
Look at him, he's chuffed,chuffed to bits.
(02:01):
Look at him.
Listen, man, listen to my story, bro.
So man, listen to my story, bro, so man.
So Jimmy John's used to havethis little plain, plain, plain,
like you know, the sandwichcalled the Frenchie Right.
Okay, couldn't tell you whatwas on it, but it was, it was
(02:21):
French, it was dynamite and itused to be on a baguette and
they used to butter the baguette.
So I don't know what happenedto Jimmy Johns, I don't know who
hurt him, I don't know whooffended him.
I don't know but JJ said youchanged on us Jimmy.
(02:42):
Nah, JJ said we free, so we notsaid we free, so we not doing
the Frenchie anymore.
And when I tell you.
It hurt me to my core, man, soI called my local Jimmy John's.
Yeah, you seem like one of them, types that are called local.
I called the local Jimmy John'sand I was like, hey, hey, man,
what happened to the Frenchie?
(03:02):
He said you know, we just notserving it anymore.
I said well, what happened tothe Frenchie?
I said you know, we're just notserving it anymore.
I said, well, what's theclosest equivalent?
You know, wow, slim, numberfive.
I was like man, but you knowwhat, you know what, what?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
type of sauce y'all.
I was like you know what.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm going to miss man .
I'm going to miss that butteredbread.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I'm going to miss, man, I'm going to miss that
buttered bread.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm going to miss that smathering of that butter
on that bread.
Why are you popping the mic man?
He's all up in the listener'sear, bro.
I mean, what is that butter?
What is that margarine?
(03:53):
Macalester all needs to bespiked, Spiked.
They had to cut off a heel andan elbow, but he got his
sandwich he ruined it around theelbows.
I don't think they do that withcholesterol, no elbows.
They keep talking aboutdiabetes.
(04:13):
For cholesterol, it's the inbits they cut off.
It's the in bits, just joints.
It's the in bits, just joints.
I think it's joints alright,alright you can tell it's
(04:42):
midnight when we do it.
They have to put a spigot Onthat boy's elbows, you have to
put a valve on it, anyway, so,anyway.
So I called my local JimmyJohn's and I was like look,
what's the closest equivalent Tothe Frenchie.
(05:02):
He said no, y'all not makingthe baguettes, even though Y'all
make bread everyday.
Y?
Y'all not making the baguettes,even though y'all make bread
every day.
Y'all could just make thesebaguettes.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But I didn't say nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
That's crazy work.
Y'all can't make the baguettesfor your boy.
I'm a loyal customer.
So they said, look, we could dothe slim five.
And I was like, but what aboutthe butter?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, and the guy said you know, this is what I
when you breathe, when you'rebreathing this is what I imagine
him doing.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I imagined him on the phone looking to his right,
looking to his left, and then hesaid we'll butter your bread if
you, if you, if you want that Iwas like the way you said it.
The way you said it sounds likea euphemism, but I'm going to
let you keep your job.
I said thank you kindly.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I always tip them a little extra Also.
I feel like they'd be giving methe good cookie.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Okay, you know what?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I mean Because sometimes those cookies be like
biscuits like snapping.
How much?
Because the listeners want toknow are you starting to
salivate right now?
If you are, go to your localJimmy John's dispensary and tell
(06:26):
them, tell them.
Tell them Dr Austin sent youthis.
When you get a recommendationfrom somebody to go and pick up
food at a restaurant, that isbig bakery at its finest.
That is the the biggest ofbakeries and it's finest.
Nah, man.
For real he said tell him I sentyou.
(06:49):
Nah.
But for real though, on aserious tip for real, for really
real, I'll be having themstreets hot.
I know, bro, they don't evendog dog dog.
Yeah, you know what's that appthat you use to order food.
I go straight to the source.
I go to the Jimmy John's app.
I got the app.
I'm a rewards customer, Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Damn the punch card.
I don't need a punch card.
Nah, this ain't no hobby.
I need my own credit card.
I need my Jimmy John's creditcard.
I didn't need that French loaf,you, I didn't need that French
loaf, you know?
Wow, anyway, they don't evenknock anymore, man, they don't
even knock, they just like picktheir heads on the window, you
know, just peek to the side andbe like you know, hold the bag
(07:33):
up.
You know, come on in.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah come on in.
Come on in, Jeffrey.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
What's up, jeff hey man.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Hey, how's your?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
mama, did your dad get that foot?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
thing taken care of.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You're joking man, You're joking.
You're joking.
You know that's how I am.
You know that's how I am, man,Sometimes dog, Sometimes dog.
I forget that I've ordered ityou know, Walk into my office
after a long meeting withsomebody and I see it just on my
desk.
I don't even know how they gotin.
Oh, they got a key.
I thought you give the peoplethat you love and care for a key
(08:03):
.
I don't know how they got inbut, anyway, anyway, um, that's,
that's the end of the jimmyjohns wow, this is a whole jimmy
johns commercial.
Yeah, if they don't sponsor usby now, I mean we doing all this
light work for free?
I know man for real, for anyway, let me check in real quick.
Man, um, um, hey man, hey bro,so you know, you know val is
(08:27):
playing soccer, he's three yeah,right, and he, he is on the
same team as one of my goodfriends and also my student,
right, okay, and so her kid islike two and a half turning
three, and so he's young, youknow, and it's like you three.
So valen is like two gamesfirst week won a medal, right, I
mean, your boy crushed it,right I?
(08:50):
I was not expecting that, youknow, yeah, but so I called some
scouts, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
They said they couldn't make it for the second
game, but that's whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, that's all good .
I don't know what happenedduring that game and this game,
but I knew it was a problembecause when we went to sleep he
was like Daddy, I don't everwant to play soccer again.
If you know Valen, but for thelisteners, if you don't know him
, he means what?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
he says, that's it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
He means what he says .
There's no bartering.
He said those exact words.
He said, Daddy, that's it.
He means what he says there's nobartering, there's no.
He said those exact words.
He said, daddy, I don't want toever play soccer again, wow.
And I said, okay, man, my hearthurts.
I said, all right, man, no,we'll talk about it in the
morning, thinking that so youdidn't say well, listen, I'm not
(09:43):
going to make you do anythingthat you don't want to do, and
if you don't feel like playingsoccer, then you don't have to
play soccer.
No, you said we're going to talkabout it in the morning.
Get a good night's sleep andrethink what you just said to
daddy.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Well, you, may not wake up in the room that you
were sleeping.
If you say it again.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Obviously you lost yourself.
Yeah, Maybe you can findyourself on this field here.
Yeah, because you're going towake up on midfield, yeah, you
know.
And so now, man, we woke up andhe meant what he said.
Man From the morning, he wascool about it, he wasn't like a
(10:23):
tantrum.
It was just cool, I don't wantto play soccer.
I took it, I put his jersey on,put his shoes on, socks on.
Shiloh put everybody in the car, came back he was naked.
He had already taken off hisstuff, taken off his shoes,
taken off everything.
I was like, dude, we got a game.
(10:43):
You're not going to get thesnacks.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Hey, this ain't practice Snap out of it, snap
out of it, man.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Hey, this isn't.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
No, I don't think you understand.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You don't get a choice.
You don't have a choice here.
Anyway, long story short, weget a choice.
Yeah, you don't have a choicehere.
Yeah, man.
So anyway, long story short.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Well, I said we got a game.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Long story short, he won.
He didn't play a single minute,you know.
But I told him I was like, lookman, look, you know the team,
your brother's team is named.
You know something?
Lollipops or something.
And so I was like, look man,like I'll bring lollipops for
the game.
If you play, all you got to dois try.
I don't care if you score, Idon't care if you kick the ball,
(11:29):
nothing but like you know.
And so he told me he was scared, scared of the people you know,
um, and you know which is.
You know, you know a lie,because the week before he was
(11:50):
out there crushing it know so.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So you yelled at him and said, yeah like don't lie
straight to my face, you know.
Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
No, I basically, you know and um, it's don't, don't,
don't, don't, don't lie toversus one of those those weeks
man.
And so, you know, we set himout, you know, and he was like
can I get a lollipop?
I was like nah, dude, likelollipops are for the players.
(12:14):
I'm dead serious dog.
I was like nah man.
I was like, look, look man,look you.
You can make a choice right now.
Look like I know you're scared,but there's no reason for you
to be scared.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
There's no reason for you to be scared.
You have everything you needinside of you to go out there
and play.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
He didn't say anything, because I don't think
he really understood what I wassaying, but I was just playing
the seeds.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, it's just a.
Understood what I was saying,but I was just planting the
seeds.
Yeah, it's just a seed that youplant.
I was like I love you.
I was like you harvest it nextseason.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I was like you see that girl over there.
She's my student and she's anamazing person and she loves you
.
I was like you see that personover there.
I was like I know that person.
We went to school together.
I was like you see the ref.
He's a student at theuniversity I work at.
If he makes a bad call, I willkick him out of the university.
(13:10):
That's how much we love you.
You got everything you need.
I was like, listen to me, faceyour fear and you are making a
choice.
I'm fixing to run through thiscomputer screen man, you are
(13:31):
making a choice, you're gettingme hyped man, I'm about to bust
through these walls in front ofyou right now, man.
Listen, listen, listen.
I brought these lollipops.
Yeah, and you will have earnedthem.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I broughtthese lollipops and you will
have earned them if you get outthere.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'm trying to get me a lollipop man.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You brought me here to get me hype like this.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
These are already your lollipops man.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
All you have to do is choose to take it.
I'm trying to win a U3championship, baby you know.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
But choose to take it .
I'm trying to boss Paul in thethree U division.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And he didn't.
He didn't man, and I hit himwith that, kim Coggins.
I hit him with that, kim, thevery second.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You chose not to try was the second you chose not to
have a lollipop.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Meanwhile, I love you enough to not give you this
lollipop, because if I give itto you, it's going to reinforce
me.
Ken's got four lollipops in mytime.
You better listen to him.
You better listen to him.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You better listen to him, Jack you better listen to
him.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
McDog, I'm eating all of my lollipops now he's
sitting there sucking on themlollipops.
When daddy starts spouting offthat you got everything within
you, you better listen to him.
He putting belt to ass.
After this, it's gonna be beltto ass if you don't get on that
field.
Trust me, big dog.
(15:03):
And to his credit, man, he, he,he accepted it, you know, he.
I said I would say look, look,look.
If you want to stop, if youdon't want me to get you to try
anymore, that's fine, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
But look, you're going to sit in the sideline and
we're going to cheer for theteam.
You know we're going to like.
You know we're gonna like.
You know whatever I was like,but listen, man and dog, and it
hurts, it hurt me hurt me to thecore dog after the game.
They had some good snacks.
I'm talking full size snickerbar.
(15:37):
Good snacks man and he lookedat me and said, daddy, can I get
a snack?
And I was like dude.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, the snacks are for the players yeah, big dog.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, bruh, bruh.
What am I supposed to do?
What am I supposed to do?
What am I supposed to do?
I was like, look, hey, nextweek we'll try again.
Them, ceruse, bruh, next weekwe'll try again.
I don't make the rules, nextweek we'll try again.
(16:08):
We got home, made him breakfast, made him some french toast
eggs you know how he likes itwith the hazelnut cream, you
know, instead of the milk, justlike he likes it.
And then, right before he bit it, you threw it against the wall
and said only winners eat eggs,Because the eggs are for players
(16:30):
.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Nah, I'm doing this because I love you.
Nah, nah, bro.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Seriously had a good morning and we talked about it
the whole day, talked about itthe whole the rest of the day.
Dawg I'm sitting in there, youknow, and I'm like, dude, what
was so scary about the play?
What was so scary about thepeople?
you know, Talked about it, dawgHours pass, you know.
I was like, hey, man, have youthought about what you can do to
face your fear next week?
You know, like just all of thestuff you do, dog.
(16:59):
But in that moment, man, I wasin a different world and it was
me and him.
I didn't even know whereLindsey was, it was just me and
him.
Bruh.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Where were the other kids at?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Huh Huh, what, what?
No, I, I is that.
Huh huh, what what?
No, I I start starting fires,dude hood that stuff with my
friends.
Strong property, nah, man,anyway, bro, that was, that was,
that was that was me, bro, thatwas my weekend, man, wow, yeah
(17:31):
yeah meanwhile your kids gettingalmost kicked out and red
carded and yellow card oh yeah,man, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
cairo, yeah, cairo had a so rubyruby's doing dance, man, she
loves it, man loves it dog whenI tell you like man man, the she
goes to this.
Uh, she goes to this.
This dance academy that wasvoted the best, the best dance
(17:55):
academy in Acadiana, right?
And it's this black-owned danceacademy where it's all black
girls, right.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I cannot tell you how sacred of a space that is for
these girls, man space that isfor these girls.
Man, like um man the second,the door opens and they walk
into the dance studio.
Man, it's like you know, it'slike they, they have the the
freedom to be themselves.
You know, without, withoutanybody like watching or judging
(18:26):
, judging you know whatever.
Yeah, Without you know, any ofthat stuff?
you know, not any of that stuff,you know.
So man like robie, well, wewalked into into the thing, man,
robie like frolicked into thisplace, right, and there's an
african drumming, uh, class.
That's to the back of it andthat's taught by one of megan's
cousins, um, and like just aprominent member of the
(18:46):
community, you know.
And um, yeah, man, so robiewent there.
She wants him to do the africandrumming, because we went there
a little early, you know.
And so you know she's dancing.
I'm, I'm, like, you know, liketelling her, like oh yeah, daddy
used to play these drums too,you know, whatever.
And then her teacher came, pick, came like, said, you know,
like hey, we're ready.
And so she gave me a big hug,gave me a kiss, and she just
(19:07):
like went into the class and,like I can, as I was walking
past the class, I can see, seeher like drop her bag, like look
at herself in the mirror.
You know like just check outlike her face and like all this
stuff.
You know I was like ugh.
It's invaluable to have like aplace where you know like,
especially like young Blackgirls can, like you know, have a
(19:30):
space where, like, they're notcomparing themselves you know,
um yeah yeah, man, so, uh, soshe does.
She does african hip-hop, uh,ballet and tap, I believe.
Yeah, um, yeah, so it's, it'slegit, man.
It kind of makes me miss ourtime when we was dancing at
Grace Hamilton.
(19:51):
You know, would you say thatagain?
It makes me miss our time whenyou and I were dancing at Grace
Hamilton School of the Arts.
Simon, I don't recall.
You don't remember us dancingat the academy, for you don't
remember that.
Nah, I don't remember.
(20:11):
Nah, okay, you don't rememberour nipples being out.
You don't remember that.
No, I don't remember.
You don't remember our nipplesbeing out.
You don't remember our nipplesdangling out of the costumes.
You don't remember the snappingof the leotard.
Yeah, man, good times, man.
You don't remember your nipplemeat being all out on display.
(20:35):
Why they put us in that uniform, bro.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
No idea man.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
We didn't consent to that, bro.
We did a whole for years wewere training for this recital.
Man, and show up on the day ofyeah, all our cousins came to
watch.
Yeah, all our cousins Fromwatch.
Yeah, all our cousins from thehood hood, I saw that.
Our hood cousins came to watch.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I saw that and I was like where's the rest of?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
it.
Yeah, this it, jay, this it.
Yeah.
You see that little snappy bitat the bottom.
Yeah, snap that together, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I was like where is the rest of?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
it you sitting there like why is it so airy, Please?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
no, why is it so airy ?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Like jeez, I barely got anything on it's drafty in
here.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
We did it, though we did it.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
All that nipple meat ain't dangling out there, man.
We did it and we did it though,Anyway.
So, yeah, bro, we did it and hedid it though, Anyways, yeah,
bro.
So yeah, Cairo had soccer too,you know, and you know he's
playing at he's seven years old,he's playing at 9U and yeah,
(21:52):
just you know, because Cairo hadthat too when he was younger,
of like, you know, a little bitof like timidness, you know,
like I'm not gonna play hard,you know.
And then that's completelyshifted and me and megan had
megan had this one talk with himafter a game when he was a
little timid.
It goes against everything Istand for.
She was talking to him afterthe game in the car on the way
back.
Oh, no, dog, yeah, that's asacred space man.
She was letting him have it.
(22:14):
Letting him have it, man.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I can hear it I can hear it.
Boy, you let us pay all thismoney.
You let us spend all this moneyon this rest of the stretch.
You made us get Air Jordansoccer cleats.
You didn't even make Air Jordansoccer cleats.
Sitting there, not even playing.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You know, I'm going to wear those cleats Because,
you don't know, it was actuallylike really self-affirming and
like really, like you know,positive and like speaking life
into it.
Man, like I'm talking aboutspeaking life into it and after
that one conversation he hascompletely changed man.
Now he's on the field, like youknow, speaking life into him,
and after that one conversationhe has completely changed man
Now.
Now he's on the field, like youknow, speaking death and the
(22:57):
other players, yeah, man, it'sgetting out of hand, it's
getting out of hand.
It's getting out of hand Likethe referee was a referee when
we were playing Right.
You remember that little shark,little shark lady.
Yeah, little chart lady, yeah,wow, yeah, she, she reffed
(23:20):
Cairo's game this weekend.
Wow, yeah, I saw her.
I gave her a hug.
She gave me a hug.
She was like oh my god, she'slike you mean to tell me I'm now
refereeing your son.
I was like, yeah, yeah man I waslike how long have you been
refereeing?
She was like since like 96.
I was like, yeah, that's aboutwhen we started playing.
You know, yeah, man, yeah, yeah, she had to Like it was three
(23:41):
violations where Kyra was justlike man.
So he was playing super hard,man Like super hard.
Kyra's one of the better kidson the team.
He isn't a striker, but thisseason he's a striker.
This is one of the firstseasons where I'm like yo, yeah,
(24:02):
we do this thing calledpractice after practice.
The chasm between how good hewas to how good he is now
because of those practices afterpractice man, just me and him
doing like ball work and stufflike that man, it's crazy.
Yeah, it's probably becausethat's like the only time you
(24:23):
ever spend time with him.
Well, the only time is that Ispend time with him is if he's
working towards the goal thatI'm, that I set for him, which
is to let me live.
I set for him, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
NIL, which is to let me live through him.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, vicariously, yeah let me live through and
then cash out on him when he'slike 22, 23.
Yeah, yeah.
He's got a good Instagramfollowing.
Yes, I don't understand why youwould have kids to.
You want to raise themhealthily.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I mean some people Just be present.
No, raise him healthily.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You know, I mean some just be present some.
No, no, no no no, no, no, weain't trying to get scholarships
.
No, no, no.
Yeah, okay, I'm trying to, I'mtrying to, I'm trying to, I'm
trying to use and abuse my kids.
Uh, so I can go ahead and getme a, maybe a nice little car,
got it?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
thank you for that all right, clip it, clip it, nah
man, nah nah, he just, he justplayed, he just plays really
hard man, it's just, it's goodto All right, clip it, clip it,
nah man.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Nah, nah, he just plays really hard man.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It's good to see man.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So in the middle of the game, me and Kyra argue on
the field, right.
So I yell at him, he yells backat me.
I yell at him, he yells back atme Not anything vicious, it's
just like you know.
Yeah, no, it's just superhealthy.
Yeah, no, it's just like cairo.
You're creating too much spacebetween an attack and I'm
midfield and he goes back.
I know I'm telling rj to move,you know, just like you know.
(25:40):
So I told him.
I was like cairo, come here.
He's like what, what?
Like the play was going on, Iwas like come here.
We should, we should tell thelisteners that, like you know,
this is all through cb radio.
This isn't you're not.
Tell the listeners that, likeyou know, this is all through CB
radio.
This isn't, this is all throughwalkie talkie yeah, yeah, yeah
(26:04):
this is all through.
You know those sprint walkietalkie phones, that was the
little chirpers, the littlechirps.
Yeah, this is all through yeahnah, man, look, I just called
him over dog and I like grabbedhis face.
I was like, dude, I'm so proudof you.
And I can tell he like kind of,oh yeah, didn't want to smile,
but like was smiling.
(26:25):
I'm like dude, I cannot tellyou how proud I am of you.
Dude, you keep working hard.
I'm so proud of him.
He just kept the momentum upthe whole game.
We won the game.
I think it was 3-1 or whatever.
There were some pivotal times inthe game where the other team
got a penalty kick, the otherteam missed the penalty kick and
(26:47):
Kyra yells how did he miss fromthere?
Exactly, dog, exactly.
I was like oh, oh, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, dog, we're
already up two goals.
Kyra scores another goal rightand he does a uh round off
backflip by the opposing fansand I was like no, no, oh, no,
(27:11):
no, no, no, no, no, no.
I would have sat him down if wehad subs.
What have I done?
I would have sat him down if wehad subs, dog.
But not only did we not havesubs, but we was playing down a
man.
Yeah, you know.
So then at the end of the game,the ref blows the whistle, we
shake hands, or whatever.
Kyra walks to the opposingbench and he goes losers.
(27:32):
Wow, hands.
Or whatever.
Cairo walks to the opposingbench and he goes losers.
I was like Cairo, get over here, get over here.
So I had to have a conversationwith him.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I had to make him understand.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You got to point at them when you say and you don't
just say losers, you say you'rea loser and you're a loser and
you're a loser.
Yeah, dog.
Genuinely, these kids were likethese kids were sad and like we
were.
You know, I'm that type ofcoach that like hey, man, we're
out here to learn.
You know, if you do, if you doan improper throwing, I'm not
(28:07):
going to be like hey, get theball pick it up, run, run, run.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I I'm picking up.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Run, run, run.
I'm going to be like, hey,let's just look at the graph and
say hey, let's do it again.
Take out the ball.
Let's do it again.
Everybody out here is trying tolearn.
Cairo is like I don't care ifwe're trying to learn, I'm
trying to win.
Jack, I am trying to win Cairois like do all that teaching
stuff.
Do all that teaching stuff whenwe go up two or three goals.
(28:30):
Teach and stuff.
Do all that teaching stuff whenwe go up two or three goals.
I even help out the other teamCarl hates that stuff.
And now I'm realizing that, man, they're at the age right now
where they're making atransition from oh yeah, we're
out here to have fun to no,we're trying to win hey bro hey,
(28:55):
man, hey, let me ask you thisquestion.
Maybe this will bring it to thetopic.
You know and I know we'realready out of time you know,
how much of your clients' issuesdo you think would be solved
with the losing season?
I don't think any one of myclients can handle the intensity
(29:17):
of being an athlete.
But here's the thing.
No, no, no, no, I lie.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
One client, one client that I have is this
feisty girl from LA.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
But just to take an L, just tolearn how to take an.
L no, they can't.
I don't know if we talked aboutthis in the cast or not, but
what I'm saying is dog, not now.
I'm not saying like as they arenow, if they have a losing
(29:51):
season.
Do you think I'm saying whenthey're like four or five?
No, bro.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
This is what I think, and they took some L's.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
This is the shift right.
Last weekend, kyra had a soccergame and two flag football
games and he lost all three ofthem.
Yeah, right, kyra came backhome and he said, no, we were on
the field.
And Kyra looked at me and said,daddy, I lost every single game
I played this weekend.
When we get home, can wepractice After playing three
(30:22):
games?
That's the difference.
I think my clients would havebeen like Dog.
No, I think it's systemic,right.
Yeah, I think it's systemic,right.
Yeah, I think it's systemic,right.
Yeah, you know, like, rememberthat real bad season we had
where we were-.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Oh, for Cosmos, Cosmos.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
yeah, I mean we almost quit, you know, because
it was just like you know, andthen the next season we went
unbeaten, yeah, you know likeundefeated, yeah, and but there
was something about, like ourenvironment that was set up to
allow us to, like, integrate theelse without internalizing it
(31:09):
do you get what I'm saying no,yeah, I internalized it, but in
the right way, in like aconstructive way.
Nah, for me it was completelyunhealthy.
What do you mean?
For me, it was like I'm notgoing back on this field ever
again until I feel like I willnever lose another game.
(31:29):
But that's constructive is whatI'm saying.
No, it's unhealthy.
No, no, no, dog, nah, that'sconstructive is what I'm saying?
No, it's unhealthy.
No, no, no, no, that to me isunhealthy.
No, that to me is is is like amotivational type of destruction
, you know no I think, I think,I think what most people do is
they say oh man, it's just, it'sjust a game.
See, I think that's unhealthy.
(31:51):
I think that's unhealthy.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I think that's unhealthy Because your system
isn't no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I think you're completely skewed and screwed.
No, no, no, dog, because yoursystem isn't set up in a way
that allows you to see theperspective.
You know, because, like dog,there's some kids out there.
You and me know that, like itwas just a game for them, but it
wasn't a game for us, but thatkid couldn't look around and go.
(32:22):
I know it's just a game for me,but it's not a game for my
teammates.
So I need to either leave ormatch their energy.
And to me, to me.
I blame the parents, you know,seriously for not giving them
that perspective on like ofcourse it's just a game.
(32:45):
But also, it ain't just a game,dog.
When did Mama and Daddy eversit us down and say like it's?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
not just a game.
I know they didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I know they didn't, I know they didn't, but there was
something about our environmentthat allowed us to go.
I want to make them all feelthe way I felt at the end of
this season next season.
Yeah, not just the players.
I want the parents to questionwhether or not they should put
(33:17):
their kids in this in this teamnext season.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I want, I want the parents to think.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I want the parents to be like is it even worth
spending this much money If theycan just get their ass beat by?
You know?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
the cosmos every season.
I know I, you know the cosmosevery season.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I know, I know like our parents didn't instill that
in us, you know, but I'm sayinglike they have that hour.
You know inside of them that wewitness either vicariously or
you know, like face to face,watching them handle adversity
and climbing up ladders and andgoing broke and building it up
(33:53):
and yada, yada, yada, whether ornot we knew it or not, whether
or not they express it to us.
Just being around it, I think,allowed us to be able to go.
Because, doc, seriously, whenwe had that losing season and we
went home, nobody talked to usabout it.
(34:13):
No, we didn't about it.
No, we didn't process it.
There was no process, noprocess.
But we did get cones, yeah, andwe did build a wall.
We did build a wall.
We did get some soccer goals.
We got soccer goals, yeah,quietly, yeah, nobody said
anything to us, but we did get aparachute, yeah, you know, we
(34:35):
did get some ladders.
Yeah, we did get ankle weights,uh-huh, you know and then ankle
weights, remember those shoesyeah, dog, all of that stuff,
man, no, no, remember running upthe roof, bruh, bruh, nobody
said anything, but there was hotham sandwiches waiting for us
when we got there.
You know what I mean.
(34:56):
Like, like, I'm just saying,like you know, I don't know and
I don't.
I genuinely, I genuinely do notthink that my current caseload
and this is no shade you don'thave, you don't have to have
that dog in you, you don't haveto, but I, I genuinely think
(35:19):
that I have, maybe I have two,two, maybe two or three clients
on my caseload that got that dogin them that if they, if they,
got punched in the teeth by ateam, they would continue to get
up and it, and I don't think alot of clients in my case, I
think a lot of clients in mycase, though, would say why am I
(35:39):
even taking this so seriously?
It's just a game.
I'm not going pro, I'm just outhere trying to have fun with my
friends.
This is so silly to even betaking this so personally, I had
a lot of fun.
I feel privileged to even movemy body the way that I moved it.
I feel privileged to be outsideof the sun.
(36:03):
I'm going to sign up next seasonif I feel like playing.
I genuinely think that's wherethey're at and that's okay.
Listen, listen.
Do you think they would bewhere they are now like clients,
you know, struggling withanxiety, depression, whatever if
they went through a losingseason with support and when I
(36:27):
say support I don't mean likeprocessing through it, I mean
somebody to be like, hey, lookat the scoreboard.
No, not only look at thescoreboard.
Remember this, remember thisfeeling clients cannot handle
that right, you really clientscan't handle that you really
think at like a three and a fiveyear old age, like like raising
(36:50):
?
Them in that way.
No, I don't know they are.
They are crackable at that age.
They got the day you, they, whendo they develop the don't wants
?
This is the.
We have practice after practice, every practice and every
practice.
Cairo invites his teammates tocome practice after practice.
(37:11):
His teammates mess around withthe ball, they kick around, they
have fun, whatever they'relaughing and joking.
When his teammates leave andit's me and him on the field,
kyra looks at me and says I wantto be the last person on this
field.
He said to me the other week Iwant to be the last person on
this park.
We played until we couldn't seethe ball anymore.
(37:32):
We did drills.
We had to put a bench down sohe can kick the ball against the
bench.
And that's what I'm saying.
We ran drill after drill afterdrill after drill after drill
after drill after drill afterdrill after drill.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Drill after drill after drill after drill after
drill after drill after drill,drill after drill after drill.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Like when his little friends left and the team left
and everybody keyed in hard offthe field and I come on, we got
homework you know, whatever Likehe drill after drill after
drill, it was eight, 30 beforewe left the field.
We made it back home.
He took a shower, he ate, hefinished homework.
He woke up the next morning at6 am to read his books and then
(38:17):
he did his AR testing.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
He missed recess to do his AR testing.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Not everybody has that dog in them like that, I'm
not doing anything as a parent.
Can that be manifested?
Can that be manifested?
Can that be developed?
Can it be?
No, I think it is inherited.
I think it is inherited.
(38:48):
I'm not sitting there saying,as a matter of fact, I'm the one
saying hey, dude, you don'thave to go to the AR party.
You already got your AR pointsfor the thing.
Hey, dude, we don't have topractice on Thursdays, just
practicing on Tuesdays is goingto help I know, but I don't
think you hear what I'm saying.
I don't think you hear what I'msaying, darling, I don't think
(39:09):
you hear what I'm saying.
Help me, help me, hear you.
I just think it's maybe aboveyou.
I think you're putting a littlebit too much like extra little
sauce on the clients, on theclient's potential here.
I think you got a little bittoo much belief.
(39:30):
Too much belief, too much hope.
Yeah, you got too much of that.
And these clients, they boughttheir life.
These clients are not abouttheir life.
These clients want nice, happylives.
They want nice happy, easylives.
Man, yeah, they're not tryingto be uncomfortable.
(39:51):
You have to seek that out, Iknow that, I know that, but
that's what I'm saying dog,that's what I'm saying If there
was a way to instill thatgravitational pull towards that
struggle I mean real struggle,not like this manifested
(40:13):
struggle that you get when youactually, when you actually
create a solution to yourproblem, solution to your
problems, that's like that thatbecomes the problem you know,
and then now that's the strugglewe're talking about in session.
Yeah, we're talking about thestruggle you've manifested for
your own self so you actuallydon't have to face a deeper
(40:37):
issue in your life.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about people beingwilling to actually turn that
boat into the wind in session.
But there's just so many timesin session where I feel like
what a client needs is Toexperience ails In a supportive,
(41:01):
and I don't mean I don't meanwhat's the right word.
I don't mean like a pacifyingEnvironment, but an environment
that does say like, yeah, like,take that, ale, nah, yeah, nah,
don't get up, don't take yourshoes off.
I want you to feel everything.
(41:24):
Remember this feeling.
You know, stand.
It's like one of those thingslike what did you do after
breakup?
You know, dog, I, dog.
I think that there are certainpeople I have two clients in
mind who say after I break upI'm about to lose weight, I'm
about to take care of myself,I'm about to eat better, I'm
about to drink better, I'm aboutto get more education.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, because maybe she was right.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Maybe she was right.
That's my point.
That's my point.
That's my point.
My point is Kyra lost everysingle game and he was like I
tried my hardest and I stilllost the ball.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Don't lie, the ball don't lie.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I tried my hardest and we still lost it.
Ain't it ain't.
It's not enough.
Oh, we had fun out here.
No, I tried my hardest.
Maybe I need to try harder.
Maybe I need to get better.
What can I do to get better?
Oh, I need to go practice.
Yeah, I don't think.
I think what most people do isthey say I just went through a
(42:27):
hard breakup.
I need just a little bit oftime to kind of sit on the bench
and like catch my bearings, youknow, and like maybe, like you
know, maybe focus on myself alittle bit more.
But I don't know how to focuson myself.
I've never been outside of arelationship before.
All I know is me that's been ina relationship.
I don't know how to.
(42:47):
Yeah, and I think it takes avery special type of person to
be like.
Maybe that person was right,maybe there are some things
within me that I need to changeand I just, like you know not
just like just wholewholehearted, just swallow that.
No, no, no no, but I do like alegit introspective look at like
what, what were the things thatwere right?
(43:11):
What, what were?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
the things that were wrong.
It does.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
It does take it takes like it takes some courage, man
Like you know, like so manytimes, like you know, I'm in
supervision, you know, and it'syou know, my supervisors, who
listen to the podcast are goingto be like, yep, you know.
But there's so many times insupervision where, like, like
I'm saying, basically I'm sayingpeople's top dogs, you know,
(43:36):
like I'm saying like some grimystuff, you know, like mean, you
know, and it feels like mysupervisees I don't think
they're shocked at all right now, even my students anymore, you
know, but it's like, bro, that'swhat you're saying, that's what
the clients are saying tothemselves yeah, can they hear
that?
You know, because if they canhear it and like receive it,
(43:59):
then they can handle hearingtough stuff out in the world.
Maybe, yeah, and maybe theycan't.
Maybe they can't though, maybethey can't.
And I'm not saying I have anabundance of hope for clients.
I do feel like, though, at somepoint, that's what we're
talking about in therapy.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
That's what it all boils downto.
That's what we're talking aboutin therapy.
(44:20):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
That's what it all boils down to.
That's what it all boils downto.
Yeah, what are they reallytalking about here?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Like are you getting back up or are you staying down?
Yeah, hey, it's fine either way.
Either way it's fine.
Either way it's fine.
It's fine either way, I thinksome clients are like I think I
need to take a little break.
I think daddy needs a littlebreak.
Meanwhile me and you would belike break Nah, man Nah.
(44:49):
I think the response is usuallylike I don't think I can join
you down there.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Join you down there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (45:05):
mean yeah, yeah, I find a therapist who will.
I want that for you.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
I don't because I don't, man, Idon't know how long you're
going to be down there, butthere's times where I see it in
a client.
They haven't seen it yet.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
There's one that I meet everyother Friday.
Every other Friday.
Yeah, like they don't know ityet, and there's sometimes
there's like supervisees, youknow, and I think I talked to
(45:35):
some of them today about that,you know like you don't see it
yet you got that dog.
While I'm trying, I'm trying tofeed it.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I'm like, yeah, raw meat.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
I'm just leaving little tidbits, you know, until
you find yourself to the ropesand you pull yourself back up.
Yeah, man.
Like and the same thing withclients, dog.
And when I tell you, dog, whena client recognizes it's the
best, oh it.
A client recognizes it's thebest, oh man, it's the best,
it's the best, and they takecontrol of their lives in a way
(46:07):
that they've never taken controlof their lives before.
They have some agency and sometribe and they be saying stuff
like I just thank you for allyou have on my head.
I just bear witness, child,just bet, I just bear witness,
child.
I just bear witness.
I didn't do nothing, shag, Ijust bear witness.
(46:28):
You did all the work.
No, it wouldn't be possiblewithout you.
No, no, you had to eat dirt andyou had to stand up on your own
two feet and be like I don'tlike the way this dirt tastes.
Man, yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah man, yeah For real, yeah For real.
I think that dog within us isinherited.
Thank you, um, but dog, but canyou do you reckon, and I know
(47:55):
we gotta go.
I know we gotta go because Igotta do some work, man, and I
know you don't.
You about to get fired from onejob?
Um, yeah, barely startinganother one, yeah, and them boys
asking for their technologyback.
Real quick.
They sent me their own boxestalking about give me our stuff
back, hey, but, but, um, do yourecognize it in the first
session?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Oh, I recognize it, I recognize it in the.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I recognize it in the voicemail they leave when I
miss their call.
Yeah, I forget, you neveranswered a call in the voicemail
they leave when I miss theircall.
I forget you never answer thecall in the first ring.
You just want to see howdetermined they are.
I want to see how determinedman, If you leave a voicemail,
then yeah, I may think aboutputting you on the case.
If you don't leave a voicemail,you don't want this work.
You don't want this work.
(48:38):
Don't summon me unless you'reready for that pain.
Do want this work.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
you don't you don't want this work?
Don't summon me.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Unless you're ready for that pain, do not summon me.
I was all ready for that pain.
He waited for a text messageand then he goes yeah, you're
ready, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I mean not seriously,seriously, seriously.
Yeah, I think I think you canrecognize it in the first
session.
Yeah, not in the air, not in anarrogant way.
It's just that, like you, youstart training your ear, like I
tell students right, like withyour theoretical orientation,
it's really just like how you'retraining your ear to hear
(49:07):
things and listen to things, youknow what I mean yeah yeah,
like you, you know, like, uh,I'm just coming to you because
my, you know, my, my girlfriendbroke up with me and uh, well,
so, so now what?
yeah, I think the worst is thesounding board one, or the
advice one, or the I need sometools for my toolbox one.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
I mean, we talked about this in other casts.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
I'm here to get over that relationship.
Why do you want to get over it?
Don't you want it to lingeraround for a while?
Don't you want to look at thatscoreboard?
Don't you want to learn from it?
Yeah, but I got one client man,I know he probably doesn't
listen to this cast, but I gotone client who, uh is, uh, he's
building the type of life thathe wants for himself.
(49:53):
Yeah, brick by brick, yeah bybrick and by, and he is
suffering and you just mixingthe suffering for it, just
mixing that I'm talking yeah, itis the.
It is the hardest hero story,the hardest here I'm talking.
I'm talking he's getting, uh,denied jobs.
(50:15):
He's getting accepted jobs.
He's getting stuff pulled awayfrom him.
He's getting the rug pulled outfrom underneath him.
He's fighting and clawing tobuild the type of life he wants.
Bro, when I tell you, I show upevery single week for this
client, every single week forthis client, man like I, brick
(50:35):
by brick, man, that's, that'sthe type of therapy I'm trying
to.
But, man, that's the type oftherapy that I get.
I get, I'm.
I'm fitting to run through thiswall.
Jt, I'm fitting to run throughthis wall man, just for the
listener's sake, there's nowalls in his, he's just outside.
yeah, yeah, I'm outside, yeah,we outside you're anyway.
(50:56):
Uh, yeah, nah, man Like thosetypes of clients, man, I'm like,
yeah, I see that I see it?
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, I see it.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, and I would say other clients who I don't see
that in.
I'm not going to lie man, I'min session like you, and I both
know that you're not reallygoing to do anything to like
change your circumstances, thatyou're not going to do anything
to change your circumstances.
We've whittled down to thecentral tenets of your life.
(51:27):
We found out what it is andyou're not willing, to be
uncomfortable, to do anythingabout it.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
I'm not saying that's bad.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
I'm not saying that you're a horrible person, it's
just at this time, right now thecost of changing is too steep,
it's too steep.
It's too steep, it's too steep.
The benefits from staying thesame is too rich.
Oh, it's too rich, man, you getso much from it.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
You may not recognize it that way, but that's.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, man, yeah, so who am I to force you to change
if it's going to cause so muchpain?
Exactly, you got to respectthat, got to respect.
Anyway, let's do some checkouts, man.
We already been going on waytoo long, bro.
What you got coming up throughthe pipeline, man, what you got.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
We got a keynote speech.
Man Got the keynote speech forthe Louisiana Counseling
Association.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Was it October 15th?
I don't know what time that is,man, I know it was early in the
morning.
They haven't given us a timeyet.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Oh, maybe they did, maybe nine something yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
You can go on the LCA website and you can check out
when all the keynote speakersare speaking.
There's a couple of keynotesevery, every.
I think there's one keynoteevery day.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
We're the last one.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, or we're the Tuesday keynote Tuesday, oh so
cool yeah yeah, yeah.
So hey, man, if you're in theLake Charles area on October
15th, come check us out.
We're going to be out therehaving a lot of fun.
Yeah, and I think we'll be doinga book signing afterwards as
well.
Yeah, lot of fun.
Yeah, I think I think we'll bedoing a book signing afterwards
as well.
Yeah, I'm doing a book signingafterwards too.
So, yeah, man, that's some fun,we don't?
(53:05):
We have an article in thepipeline too.
Yeah, man, hopefully we'll hearback from that soon, man, to
update y'all on that publication.
Been trying to get that thingpublished for a couple years now
.
Yeah, that and uh, we got uh,some books, some books coming
out book proposals.
We're waiting to hear back fromthe publishers.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, but I'm tired, boss.
Did you see that they?
Speaker 2 (53:24):
wanted us to go that direction with the master
students, like, instead of itbeing-.
Oh, she emailed us back.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, a while ago though.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Oh no, no, no, I emailed her.
I emailed her and, yeah, wetalk.
Wait, you don't be checking theemails.
I don't I see whatever crumbsyou allow me to see, randomly,
you'll get up there and youdon't leave things read or
unread, you just be.
You probably didn't even put itin a folder.
(53:57):
Y'all see how he talking to mey'all.
Y'all see how abusive he is.
He gets real controlling whenit comes to his inbox.
I just don't understand how youdo this, man.
I don't get it because an emailcomes in.
Witness the abuse.
An email comes in.
Witness the abuse.
He has his hand up right now.
(54:18):
I'm trying to get him fired.
Y'all you know what.
We don't even have time forthis, that's how he is with his
supervisees too.
Your supervisee.
He is sound off, he abusive, hebeat us.
Just very simply, you know,Just very simply, hey GS, you
read an email, put it in afolder and tell me about it, so
(54:41):
we don't just have loose emailsjust floating around the inbox.
Hey man, I don't like the wayyou said loose, like that you
just be letting them fly.
I'd be looking in the emailinbox.
It's like are these answered ornot answered?
Have they been?
You know been?
You know my bad JT?
(55:02):
I will try my hardest to makesure that you are aware of my
whereabouts in our inbox.
I will do better.
Nah, you know what?
You know what?
Jt?
That's it.
That's it.
You only got viewing privilegesright now.
That's it for a month.
You see how controlling he is?
True, that's it for a month.
You see how controlling he is,that's it for a month.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
He couldn't wait to control it.
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
I'm finished.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
I'm finished, I'm done.
I can't take it anymore.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
He's throwing stuff y'all.
He just took a swing at the dog.
I know it's a rescue dog.
He just took a swing at the dogman.
Hey, gotta report him to thepeople Nah, man Nah Nah yeah.
(55:59):
All right, we gotta go.
We really gotta go.
Man, we can't promise we'regonna have this thing out, uh,
you know, uh anytime soon, andwe don't know when.
We gonna cast again y'all y'allknow our heart.
I've been trying to get someconsistency in our casting man,
but every time I talk to you no,I gotta do the thing at the
(56:21):
thing and all you hear is areyou golfing right now?
No, no, no, no.
Why would you think that?
No, daddy got to keep thatsingle digit handicap.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
And then you hear cart path, Cart path.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
Is that the golf cart ?
No, no, anyway, man, alright,we'll see y'all, talk to y'all,
hear from y'all at some point.
You got any final words youwant to add.
We appreciate the love and theflexibility cause you know,
sometimes it be like that.
That's how we are.
(57:01):
It's not going to come outweekly.
This is not what we have in ourlives.
Yeah, we're going to try tomake it come out.
We're going to try to make it.
Just know that it's Jude, it isme.
It is me because you arepressed for time.
I'm a busy boy.
Busy boy got a lot of stuff yougot to do man A lot of folks
(57:25):
need your attention.
Man, I have a schedule,schedule, a schedule.
My schedule is packed.
Yep, yep, yep.
It's all written in crayon, butfor real it's because I care
about my students and I meetwith them.
Oh, yeah, okay, wow, okay, I'mcutting that out.
Yeah, cutting that out.
I just want my students to knowfrom the bottom of my heart.
(57:48):
No, as a matter of fact, youknow, just to the listeners, I'm
meeting with your students now,Jesus.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
That's how bad it is, yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like to.
I like to get them good andcorrupted before they get out
there.
It's not bad, it is yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Good and corrupted.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, anyway, from the bottom of my heart, I can
care less about my students.
If y'all are listening, uh,yeah, they feel guys are the.
Yeah, the furthest thing.
I'm only here for the money.
This is it, anyway, we got togo bro.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
We'll see y'all later , thank you.
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