November 3, 2023 • 31 mins
In this episode, we delve into the transformative work of the West Baltimore RICH Collaborative, a partnership of 15 community organizations dedicated to tackling hypertension, social determinants of health, and social isolation in four West Baltimore ZIP codes that show evidence of race-based disparities. Join us as alumna and the new Bill and Joanne Conway Dean of the University of Maryland School of Nursing Yolanda Ogbolu, PhD '11, NNP, FNAP, FAAN, discusses how this collaborative — which stands for Reducing Isolation and Inequities in Cardiovascular Health — is making a significant impact in Baltimore.
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Charles Schelle (00:00):
Dana, it's great to be here in person and a
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studio here at the University ofMaryland School of Nursing
today. I haven't seen somepeople on campus because we've
just been really busy latelywith all sorts of things. But
now there's a lot of eventsgoing on on campus, but doesn't
bring you back a little bit fromthe days of this pandemic, when
you were like, in your littlehole or cave, and then you see
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someone and you're like, Oh, myGod, there's life out there.
Dana Rampolla (00:27):
There's people, there's people. Yeah, it's nice
Right?
to be on campus. It's nice tosee people again in person. And
we are starting to host a lot ofour UMB events and things if not
in person, at least with thehybrid components. So we'll be
talking to Dean Yolanda Ogbolu.
And we'll be hitting on thatsocial isolation, not just us
personally, in our workenvironments, but here in the
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city, and how that affectspeople. Not only not only in
terms of communicating andconnecting with people, but it
affects their health as well.
Charles Schelle (00:57):
Absolutely. So you're going to hear a lot about
cardiovascular health and socialisolation, and things that you
might not think about right?
Violence around a neighborhood,or it could be not having access
to fresh foods, like being in afood desert, and how that
impacts your cardiovascularhealth as well.
Dana Rampolla (01:18):
Right? And that we've been trying to catch up
with the dean for an many numberof months now. And it's
fantastic because not only arewe going to share about
something called the richcollaborative today, but we're
also going to talk to her aboutwhat it's like to be a dean in a
big university, especially in atown that she grew up in and in
the University where shestudied. So let's let's hop on
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over and get her on one screenwith us. Here we go.
Jena Frick (01:47):
You're listening to the heartbeat of the University
of Maryland, Baltimore, the UMBpulse.
Dana Rampolla (02:00):
So Dean, it is so nice to have you on the program
today. We appreciate youallowing us to come into your
beautiful studio space, we weare happy to be here and
learning the ropes. But we'remost happy to be here because
we've been trying to catch upwith you for about a year now. I
think when I first sent you anemail about being on the
program, the whole goal was totalk about the rich
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collaborative, which weabsolutely want to talk about in
in here shortly. But tell usabout what's been going on in
with you professionally, yourclimb your trajectory, and how
does it feel to be called Dean?
Yolanda Ogbolu (02:36):
Yes. So I'm really excited as always, both
things to be in Baltimore, andmore importantly, to be at
University of Maryland andBaltimore, a place that I love,
and to be able to lead a top 10nursing school, one of the
largest nursing schools in thecountry. And so it's really an
exciting time. You know, Ialways think I've been thinking
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a lot about David Satcher, whowas the first African American
Surgeon General for the UnitedStates. And he said something
really simple. He said, I neverthought I could, but I never
thought I could. And I thinkit's just really important that
I've been able to kind of keepmy eyes open in terms of living
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a life that's full ofopportunity, and really just
going after that opportunity.
And so, you know, my trajectory,in my mind was not expected to
become the Dean of the School ofNursing. I've had a great
nursing career, 35 years innursing, and I work taking care
of premature babies in theneonatal intensive care unit for
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25 years. And that was a lot offun. I enjoyed that. But because
of my interest in healthdisparities, and trying to
understand better why babies ofcolor ended up in the NICU more
than other babies, it reallysent me on a different
trajectory towards academia tobe able to engage in research,
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and community engagement. Soit's a great place to be, and
I'm excited to be doing over Luand follow the legacy of 134
years of great nursing educationhere at University of Maryland,
Baltimore.
Dana Rampolla (04:19):
That's wonderful.
And your degrees are all fromthe University of Maryland,
Baltimore. Nice.
Yolanda Ogbolu (04:24):
Yes, I am the first alarm to become Dean of
the School of Nursing, and I'm agraduate of the bachelors
masters and PhD programs here atthe university. And so, you
know, I think that's a goodstory. That's how right because
it really talks about how openthe university is to opportunity
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and to growth within theuniversity. And so, you know,
it's pretty amazing. And I'mhappy to have received my
education and to be able tocontinue my career here.
Dana Rampolla (04:59):
That's a fantastic long story, and we are
thankful that you are herebecause you bring such a
historical perspective to theposition.
Unknown (05:08):
Absolutely. And last year, during our first ever
faculty convocation degree, yougave a great speech. And we
learned a lot about you, and howyou grew up in the city not too
far from campus. Right. So how,what kind of impression did
growing up in the city make on alittle Yolanda?
Yolanda Ogbolu (05:28):
Sure, yeah, I mean, I was really fortunate to
grow up just two blocks fromhere across from Martin Luther
King Boulevard, in a placecalled Lexan Terrace. They were
high rise projects that werethere many years ago, and my
family and I lived there. And Iwent to school around here, and
I walked this neighborhood,right. And it's just so
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interesting to be here at thistime, and to see how much the
neighborhood has changed by, youknow, walking through the
neighborhood. And being able towalk from here to my favorite
place, which many of people haveheard me talk about, is the
inner Pratt Free Library onCathedral Street. You know,
those are fond memories for me,I loved being able to walk up
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and down. And, you know, I satin that talk, something that I
feel really strongly about,which is, Baltimore is a
beautiful place to be, despitehis challenges and everything,
it's a beautiful place to be.
And the power of Baltimore isreally endless people, right.
And there's social connectionsthat we make with one another
with our friends and ourneighbors, and even with our
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family. So my grandmother toldme, she was working at
University of Maryland medicalcenter, that she could hear me
my name being called the medicalcenter, she said, I hear them
calling you Dr. Yolandaoverhead. And those are strong
family connections with yourgrandparents that told you
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there's opportunity in thefuture, and they can hear it,
and they could see it evenbefore you can. And so it's just
been wonderful to grow up inthis community.
Dana Rampolla (07:06):
Sorry, go ahead.
I was just gonna say that's anincredible story. And it must be
so meaningful to you, but alsoto your family to have watched
you grow up and to stay withinBaltimore to give back to this
community.
Yolanda Ogbolu (07:19):
Absolutely. My family has been in Baltimore for
eight generations. Wow. And wehave a large family. So I have
250 living family members thatlive in Baltimore. And when you
look at the census that says 40,to 60% of people in Baltimore
never leave, that's my family.
And so it's been really excitingto, to be here. I currently
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don't live in the city, but Ihave lots of family that live in
the city. And I often tell mystudents, those people you're
caring for, they might be myfamily. Good job, it's really
important that you understandtheir needs, and that you try to
meet their needs.
Unknown (07:59):
Well, one of the things you walk the audience through,
and we'll talk a lot about thistoday, is how there are certain
aspects of city life. It's notunique to Baltimore, where
things happen that impact you,that's more than just your
mental health that could lead tosocial isolation. And, and you
really need to rely on yourneighbors and the good of the
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people around you to support youto get through that. So walk us
through that a little bit.
Explain to our listeners and ourviewers and how, what that
concept is about site socialisolation, in terms of how you
described it impacting health.
Yolanda Ogbolu (08:37):
Sure, yeah, social isolation, is because of
my walks to the library, right.
And that really triggered myinterest in social isolation.
And social isolation is ahousehold word now, because of
the pandemic, but socialisolation, it happened way
before the pandemic. And so, um,social isolation means that you
lack meaningful relationshipsand connections with one another
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with other people. But it's morethan just about people when you
live in certain communities.
You're also socially isolatedfrom the resources and the
experiences that you need everyday, those social factors that
you might not be exposed to haveimpacts on your health. And what
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I mean by that is, like, Do youhave a playground to play in
that safe, right to have placeswhere you can get food, um, so
you can be socially isolatedfrom foods and socially isolated
from places where you can walkand exercise and keep yourself
healthy. And we know that socialisolation, as implications is as
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dangerous as smoking 15cigarettes per day, right? And
it increases your risk for heartdisease, hypertension, and
increases your risk for heartattack. But we also can only
imagine the impact that it hason your mental health, right? So
it increases stress and anxiety.
So When one of my studies that Idid recently called belonged to
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Baltimore, that study reallyfocused on looking at social
isolation, looking at mothers ofyoung children. And that was
really interesting because I wasable to go out and talk to
community members and get theirperceptions of social isolation.
And one father said to me,imagine living in a block where
there's 20 houses, 12 of themare vacant. Two of them are
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older adults that are boltedbehind the doors, and you're
afraid to let your children goout and play because the
playground is not safe. And hesaid, Yes, I'm isolated,
isolated in my house. And so weknow that, you know, there are
lots of work that needs to bedone to really improve the
conditions within the city sothat people are connected to
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their neighbors, that they canhave a safe playground, they can
have a grocery store. And soI've really dedicated my
research career to focusing onhow to make substantial change
in those areas.
Charles Schelle (11:01):
Did you notice these patterns as as a child or
teenager? Or did it become morelike a solidified in your mind?
And as you started to go throughyour education? And through your
practice?
Yolanda Ogbolu (11:16):
Yeah, absolutely. So as a child, I
witnessed things, and I didn'tunderstand it, right? Where I
grew up was predominantlyAfrican American. And, you know,
many people were unemployed. Andfrom my eyes, I could witness
the inequities in terms of veryclose to university, I saw
people can't go into work. Butthose people didn't look like
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me. Right. And so, you know, asa child, I noticed the
inequities, but I couldn't nameit. Right. And so one of the
beauties of being at the Schoolof Nursing was I was able to
really take courses on socialjustice, take global health
courses, and really understandwhat that meant. And to be able
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to name it right to name itsocial justice, to understand
inequities and wealth, and to beable to understand why why
things look the way they did inmy neighborhood, because in the
back of my mind, even as a kid,the great thing I had was, I was
always curious about why, why isit like, that was the guy. And
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that's a trigger that I thinkreally put me on the path to
academia. Right? You just keepasking why and why researching
more and more and why and whyand then suddenly, why can't we
do something about this? Nowthat we understand Yeah. What's
next?
Dana Rampolla (12:38):
Well, so that belong, belong to Baltimore
program that would you say thatkind of shaped where you moved
forward with the richcollaborative that?
Yolanda Ogbolu (12:47):
Absolutely, absolutely. Because the West--
Belong to Baltimore study reallylooked at mental health
outcomes. It looked at stressand anxiety as it relates to
social isolation. And, you know,we we learned a lot, right? A
surprising finding I just wantto share really quickly about
that is I also measured hope,oh, and that study, and one of
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the things that I learned wasthat people that had higher
levels of hope, were lesssocially isolate. And I think
that's really interested insomething that I'm interested in
pursuing more in future researchprojects, but knowing that
people have more risk forhypertension, for heart attack,
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that was also something reallyimportant to examine. And that's
what led to the West BaltimoreRICH Collaborative, in terms of
looking at the relationshipbetween hypertension and social
isolation, and then reallypartnering with really great
partners.
Dana Rampolla (13:47):
So this led you to think about the RICH
collaborative, tell us whatwe've referred to it a couple of
times, what does the acronymstand for, and you received when
we first connected last fall,you had just received a
tremendous grant to fund thatprogram. So tell us a little bit
about that.
Yolanda Ogbolu (14:03):
So I'm really excited to be leading what's
called the West Baltimore RICHcollaborative and the West
Baltimore RICH collaborative isreally focusing on Reducing
Inequities and Isolation andCardiovascular Health. And so
that's what RICH stands for. Andit's a collaboration of 14
organizations. So 10 communitybased organizations to federally
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qualified health centers, to twoMedical Systems, University of
Maryland medical system andascension St. Agnes. And so we
have been working together forfive years. We had that
discussion this week, and wecouldn't believe it, of which
only a year and a half of that'sbeen funded. And so that will
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tell you there's a commitmentfrom both community based
organizations, federallyqualified health centers and
hospitals as well as where We'repartnering with Coppin
University School of Nursing,that are really committed to
improving the health of peoplethat live in West Baltimore. And
we know that hypertension is themost serious issue that's
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happening in terms of chronicdisease in West Baltimore, and
that African Americans are atmuch higher risk for
hypertension. And so we'vereally been working to reduce
hypertension through a multilevel intervention. And so the
project really focuses on fivekey interventions. So I'll just
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walk you through them reallyquickly. So one of them is a
health equity LearningCollaborative. And what does
that mean? It means that these14 organizations are committed
to working together to learningfrom one another, to really have
an bi directional learning fromcommunity based organizations to
hospitals to how can we do thisbetter? How can we touch the
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community better? How can wereach and so we've learned so
much from one another is spurredoff into other projects. The
second thing that we're doing isreally addressing social
determinants of health through acommunity health worker model.
So we've been able to hirepeople from West Baltimore, as
well as others from across thecity, they're really come and be
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engaged, and work directly withcommunity members, community
outreach workers are really laypeople that can go in and really
talk to community members, speakto them in a language that is
really easy to understand. Andto really engage them to
understand what their socialneeds are, what do they need
help with finances, help withemployment, help with housing,
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and then identify resources andthen reach back out to them and
close the loop on thoseresources. We've also been doing
primary and secondary events,what that means is we've been
out doing the events on how youcan reduce your blood pressure.
So sometimes we have events atcommunity based organizations
that are our partners like theDruid Heights, CDC, or Light
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Health and Wellness. Andsometimes we do it all together,
like I'd be more healthy baby,I'm sorry, be more healthy
Baltimore work at the conventioncenter. And we recently had a
major event at Roberta's House,which is another one of our
programs that focuses on havingsupport groups that can help
people that are sociallyisolated and have experienced
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violence. In addition to thatwe're doing self measured blood
pressure programs, because webelieve that people at home can
help to control their own bloodpressure if they're given the
resources that they need. So weprovide people with blood
pressure cuffs, we teach themhow to use it. And we give them
the parameters to let them knowwhat's too high was too low,
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when you're okay, and when youreally need to go out and see
your primary care physician. Andthen one of the things we did
that's really exciting is nurseled clinics. And so part of that
proposal was to open up nurseled clinics. And so we've been
able to open up a nurse ledclinic and collaboration with
the Medical Center at McCulloughHomes. And that's really
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exciting, where we have a nursepractitioner in there that is
providing care to people thatlive within the senior facility
in Baltimore. And then we'vepartnered with other nurse like
clinics, like the nurse healthsuite, and the University of
Maryland. Baltimore, has acommunity engagement center. And
within that center, we have ahealth suite. And we have one of
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our nurses from the School ofNursing, Dr. Kelly Duran, that
manages that clinic onWednesday. This is a lot of
interventions, and I'm sharing asnapshot and I'm missing
something. But what I want youto say about it is because it's
14 organizations, there's a lotof power when we can come
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together. So when wecollaborate, we can do more for
the community to gather than anyof the organizations can do
alone. And so we've been able toaddress social isolation by
doing the support groups, aswell. So yeah, that's a really
exciting proposal. And that wassubmitted and funded as this
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collaboration. And now there's anew opportunity coming for us to
resubmit for some additionalfunding for another five years
for that process.
Charles Schelle (19:19):
Wonderful.
on what some of theorganizations do, and obviously,
right, as you said, collaborate.
Collaboration is key with somany partners, and some of them
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have their own role. Again, youdon't have to go through the
entire list and you share someof the things that the community
engagement center does, forinstance, but are there a couple
partners who have a maybe aninteresting role or niche role
in this that really complementsand brings this all together?
Yolanda Ogbolu (20:01):
Oh, sure. I mean, I think all of the
organizations are contributingin a really special way. I think
something that is really specialis in the School of Nursing. And
in the School of Nursing, we'remanaging the community outreach
worker model, right. And that'sbeen just really interesting. We
partner with the communityengagement center, for example,
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with their workforce developmentprogram to really try to
identify people in Baltimorethat would be qualified for
those roles. So we're alwaysreaching out and trying to
recruit more people into thoseroles, but the community
outreach workers just reallybring a special touch to the
program. There's some, again,the power of the people in
Baltimore, right, bringing incommunity members as part of our
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team, and then really givingthem the power to go out and
impact other people in thecommunity. I really think that's
been one of the most excitingparts of the program. And then
we have others like AscensionSt. Agnes total healthcare, and
chase Braxton that also havemobile units. We have the
Governor as well mobile in theSchool of Nursing. But we've
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been able to leverage thosemobile vans, those mobile
clinics that go out into thecommunity, so that community
members don't have to come tous. And we also are willing to
go to them. And so those areother special parts of the
program.
Charles Schelle (21:21):
You know, what's really amazing is that
there's sometimes there's grantsawarded or research that it
takes maybe 1,2, 3 years untilyou start getting returned
results. And it sounds like youhit the ground running
immediately to launch a lot ofthis. So just that that's just
amazing. So congrats --congratulations for getting all
of that out on the streets soquickly.
Yolanda Ogbolu (21:41):
Yeah, I think when you talk to community
members, what community memberswill say, stop collecting so
much information, and let's dosomething. And this project was
really about let's do something,right. And so organizations were
willing to partner and take achance and work together and go
out and do something. And so Ithink it's been really
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meaningful. And we'll continueto track you know, the outcomes
of the program, and hopefully beable to share that to the wider
community soon. Sometimes it'shard to make a huge difference
in just a year and a half, ourproject ends in April 2024. But
we'll be able to, we have, we doknow that we've been able to
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help link people to resources tohousing, to transportation, and
we've given out about 1000,blood pressure cuffs to
individuals. So we know thatwe're making a difference. We've
touched about 3000 people in thecommunity. And so it's making a
difference.
Dana Rampolla (22:42):
In my marketing role, I actually work with the
CEC, the community engagementcenter a lot. And it really is
incredible to me. When I firstcame into the university, just
and you did mention a lot ofpeople who are out doing a lot
of things in the community, butright here at UMB, we we offer
the CEC, to the community andall of these programs that are
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helpful, but we are empoweringpeople, you know, I always try
to explain to people who havenever heard of it, we're not
just handing people fish, we areteaching them to fish. And we're
helping to provide fishing rodswhen we can through a grant like
this. So it's really powerful.
And it's incredible, like yousaid, not to just talk about it
or to inform people but toreally live it and make it work
for them. So you mentioned anend date, what do you see? Do
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you see RICH evolving any duringthat next year? So
Yolanda Ogbolu (23:32):
Sure, yeah, we have an additional about six
months left on the project. Inthe meantime, there to new call
for proposals out. And we'reapplying for the next phase so
that we can continue to expandand strengthen what we're doing
and rich. And we know that tomake a difference. And to really
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make a difference in healthoutcomes. It takes more than a
year and a half. And so we'relooking forward to the next
opportunity, which is a grantfor five years and to bringing
in more community organizationsthat will work and join
alongside as well.
Dana Rampolla (24:08):
And a shout out to the team who does all of that
grant application work becausethat's a big a big lift also so
So you said that it would wouldprobably end and then just
repeat for me the next one, ifthat's granted,
Yolanda Ogbolu (24:22):
that would be the next slide is funded, then
it will start the day after thisone's got stops. And it will be
funded for five years, which isreally a substantial time where
you would expect to see usreally reducing health
disparities in cardiovascularoutcomes after a five year
grant. So we've done a lot ofgreat work in terms of building
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the infrastructure to get 14organizations to come together
agreed to work together and thenput in all the infrastructure
needed to make the partnershipwork has been a major
accomplishment and we're reallyexcited about what we can
continue do in the future.
Unknown (25:03):
Yeah, absolutely. And just being about a year into
this, you've had some short termsuccess. And obviously, you want
to collect data to see what thetrue impacts are. But what can
other communities andorganizations kind of take away
and learn from this model to andbe inspired to do it in their
own community?
Yolanda Ogbolu (25:21):
Sure, absolutely. One of the
challenges I think in healthcaretoday is there's a lot of
fragmentation. There are placeswhere community organizations
are working and dependent fromhealthcare organizations,
independent from academicinstitutions. And I hope the
thread that you see in my workis I believe there's power in
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connecting, right, I think thatwe can do so much more together
than any one of us can do alone.
And so that connection is soimportant. And so for this
project, what I would dream thatpeople would take away from,
it's really learning how tobuild the infrastructure so that
healthcare organizations andcommunity based and federally
qualified health centers canwork together in a safe way, in
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a meaningful way, and in a waythat we all rise together.
Because I really think that'swhat's happening with the West
Baltimore rich, collaborative.
Dana Rampolla (26:16):
So let's say I'm a listener, and my interest is
piqued by all of thisconversation, how can
individuals and organizationssupport your efforts and the
work that's currently beingdone?
Yolanda Ogbolu (26:27):
Sure, well, we're excited I can tell you and
I, we have had like an opendoor. So if organizations come
in wanting to work with us, likeI know, the American Heart
Association, they were reallyexcited about the work we are
doing. And so the leader forMaryland came to us and say, I
want to be a part of this. Andso we were really excited to
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welcome her and Rhonda Chapmanfrom the American Heart
Association, you know, and shehelped us connect to more faith
based organizations, she helpedconnect us to places where they
have a kitchen, where theyactually teach people how to,
you know, do better with healthyfoods. And so you know, it's
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been we've we've really had anopen door for partnerships and
great ideas. Nobody has amonopoly on great ideas. And so
when people come and want toshare their great ideas with us,
we're open and ready to listen.
And so they could find us on ourwebpage, West Baltimore RICH
Collaborative.
Dana Rampolla (27:28):
Okay. And we'll make sure to put all that in our
show notes for people to accessit. Charles?
Charles Schelle (27:34):
Yeah, Iwas just wondering, given the theme of,
of social isolation anddeterminants of health, you
know, ring through this, and andwe're seeing the progress. Is
there something maybe cooking orsimmering beyond the rich
collaborative that you want toachieve around this topic?
Yolanda Ogbolu (27:56):
Sure. Wow. You know, I mentioned early that the
nursing school has a rich 134year history, right. And in that
history, they've always engagedin community health. And that's
something that we're reallyproud about our community public
health program. So today, I'mtalking to you about the West
Baltimore rich, but we haveprograms in the library, where
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our nurses take nurse outnursing faculty take nursing
students to the library, andthey help patients to understand
the health information that theyget from the hospital. And they
also address social determinantsof health in the library. So
they make themselves availableseveral days a week to four
libraries within Baltimore. Andit really emerged because
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librarians were seeing patientsshow up in the library they had
discharged from the hospital andthey show the discharge paper
and they asked the librarian,can you tell me what this means?
Right, and they don'tunderstand. So having nurses in
the library has been reallypowerful. We've also been in
Headstart. And so we'recentrally located at head starts
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all over the city. And that'sbeen really helpful because
having nursing nurses, nursepractitioners there, we've been
able to provide hearing examsand health physicals and help
children to get to theappropriate places that they
need to get care for asthma. Andso the nurse as a nursing
school, we have a big footprintin the community. And then we
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also are innovative in terms ofsome of the work we're doing
about bringing global and localtogether. And so trying to look
around the world for the bestideas, and what might work in
our local communities. So we'realso lead something called the
Global Learning for HealthEquity network, which is a
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partnership with a lot ofdifferent organizations from
across the country. That'sreally focused on how can we
learn the best from around theworld and bring it into our
local community so that we canreduce health disparities. So we
have a lot going on and theSchool of Nursing that's really
exciting around communityhealth. And I think a lot of
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people might not know. But we'recommitted to the community, to
Baltimore to the state ofMaryland. We've worked on rural
places on the eastern shore withour well mobiel. We routinely go
to Prince George's County on aweekly basis where we provide
care to a large immigrantpopulation in Prince George's
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County. So I'm, you know, verydedicated and committed not only
in the city, but across thestate of Maryland.
Dana Rampolla (30:37):
Thank you so much for being on and just
enlightening us all and sharingthe great work that the whole
school is doing, not only inBaltimore, but beyond. Yes.
Yolanda Ogbolu (30:46):
So thank you so much for having me. I really
appreciate it.
Charles Schelle (30:49):
Thank you, Dean.
Yolanda Ogbolu (30:49):
Bye bye.
Jena Frick (30:55):
UMB pulse with Charles Shelley and Dana
rampolla is a UMB Office ofCommunications and Public
Affairs production, edited byCharles Shelley marketing by
Dana rampolla.
Dana, it's great to be here in person and a
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studio here at the University ofMaryland School of Nursing
today. I haven't seen somepeople on campus because we've
just been really busy latelywith all sorts of things. But
now there's a lot of eventsgoing on on campus, but doesn't
bring you back a little bit fromthe days of this pandemic, when
you were like, in your littlehole or cave, and then you see
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someone and you're like, Oh, myGod, there's life out there.
Dana Rampolla (00:27):
There's people, there's people. Yeah, it's nice
Right?
to be on campus. It's nice tosee people again in person. And
we are starting to host a lot ofour UMB events and things if not
in person, at least with thehybrid components. So we'll be
talking to Dean Yolanda Ogbolu.
And we'll be hitting on thatsocial isolation, not just us
personally, in our workenvironments, but here in the
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city, and how that affectspeople. Not only not only in
terms of communicating andconnecting with people, but it
affects their health as well.
Charles Schelle (00:57):
Absolutely. So you're going to hear a lot about
cardiovascular health and socialisolation, and things that you
might not think about right?
Violence around a neighborhood,or it could be not having access
to fresh foods, like being in afood desert, and how that
impacts your cardiovascularhealth as well.
Dana Rampolla (01:18):
Right? And that we've been trying to catch up
with the dean for an many numberof months now. And it's
fantastic because not only arewe going to share about
something called the richcollaborative today, but we're
also going to talk to her aboutwhat it's like to be a dean in a
big university, especially in atown that she grew up in and in
the University where shestudied. So let's let's hop on
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over and get her on one screenwith us. Here we go.
Jena Frick (01:47):
You're listening to the heartbeat of the University
of Maryland, Baltimore, the UMBpulse.
Dana Rampolla (02:00):
So Dean, it is so nice to have you on the program
today. We appreciate youallowing us to come into your
beautiful studio space, we weare happy to be here and
learning the ropes. But we'remost happy to be here because
we've been trying to catch upwith you for about a year now. I
think when I first sent you anemail about being on the
program, the whole goal was totalk about the rich
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collaborative, which weabsolutely want to talk about in
in here shortly. But tell usabout what's been going on in
with you professionally, yourclimb your trajectory, and how
does it feel to be called Dean?
Yolanda Ogbolu (02:36):
Yes. So I'm really excited as always, both
things to be in Baltimore, andmore importantly, to be at
University of Maryland andBaltimore, a place that I love,
and to be able to lead a top 10nursing school, one of the
largest nursing schools in thecountry. And so it's really an
exciting time. You know, Ialways think I've been thinking
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a lot about David Satcher, whowas the first African American
Surgeon General for the UnitedStates. And he said something
really simple. He said, I neverthought I could, but I never
thought I could. And I thinkit's just really important that
I've been able to kind of keepmy eyes open in terms of living
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a life that's full ofopportunity, and really just
going after that opportunity.
And so, you know, my trajectory,in my mind was not expected to
become the Dean of the School ofNursing. I've had a great
nursing career, 35 years innursing, and I work taking care
of premature babies in theneonatal intensive care unit for
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25 years. And that was a lot offun. I enjoyed that. But because
of my interest in healthdisparities, and trying to
understand better why babies ofcolor ended up in the NICU more
than other babies, it reallysent me on a different
trajectory towards academia tobe able to engage in research,
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and community engagement. Soit's a great place to be, and
I'm excited to be doing over Luand follow the legacy of 134
years of great nursing educationhere at University of Maryland,
Baltimore.
Dana Rampolla (04:19):
That's wonderful.
And your degrees are all fromthe University of Maryland,
Baltimore. Nice.
Yolanda Ogbolu (04:24):
Yes, I am the first alarm to become Dean of
the School of Nursing, and I'm agraduate of the bachelors
masters and PhD programs here atthe university. And so, you
know, I think that's a goodstory. That's how right because
it really talks about how openthe university is to opportunity
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and to growth within theuniversity. And so, you know,
it's pretty amazing. And I'mhappy to have received my
education and to be able tocontinue my career here.
Dana Rampolla (04:59):
That's a fantastic long story, and we are
thankful that you are herebecause you bring such a
historical perspective to theposition.
Unknown (05:08):
Absolutely. And last year, during our first ever
faculty convocation degree, yougave a great speech. And we
learned a lot about you, and howyou grew up in the city not too
far from campus. Right. So how,what kind of impression did
growing up in the city make on alittle Yolanda?
Yolanda Ogbolu (05:28):
Sure, yeah, I mean, I was really fortunate to
grow up just two blocks fromhere across from Martin Luther
King Boulevard, in a placecalled Lexan Terrace. They were
high rise projects that werethere many years ago, and my
family and I lived there. And Iwent to school around here, and
I walked this neighborhood,right. And it's just so
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interesting to be here at thistime, and to see how much the
neighborhood has changed by, youknow, walking through the
neighborhood. And being able towalk from here to my favorite
place, which many of people haveheard me talk about, is the
inner Pratt Free Library onCathedral Street. You know,
those are fond memories for me,I loved being able to walk up
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and down. And, you know, I satin that talk, something that I
feel really strongly about,which is, Baltimore is a
beautiful place to be, despitehis challenges and everything,
it's a beautiful place to be.
And the power of Baltimore isreally endless people, right.
And there's social connectionsthat we make with one another
with our friends and ourneighbors, and even with our
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family. So my grandmother toldme, she was working at
University of Maryland medicalcenter, that she could hear me
my name being called the medicalcenter, she said, I hear them
calling you Dr. Yolandaoverhead. And those are strong
family connections with yourgrandparents that told you
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there's opportunity in thefuture, and they can hear it,
and they could see it evenbefore you can. And so it's just
been wonderful to grow up inthis community.
Dana Rampolla (07:06):
Sorry, go ahead.
I was just gonna say that's anincredible story. And it must be
so meaningful to you, but alsoto your family to have watched
you grow up and to stay withinBaltimore to give back to this
community.
Yolanda Ogbolu (07:19):
Absolutely. My family has been in Baltimore for
eight generations. Wow. And wehave a large family. So I have
250 living family members thatlive in Baltimore. And when you
look at the census that says 40,to 60% of people in Baltimore
never leave, that's my family.
And so it's been really excitingto, to be here. I currently
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don't live in the city, but Ihave lots of family that live in
the city. And I often tell mystudents, those people you're
caring for, they might be myfamily. Good job, it's really
important that you understandtheir needs, and that you try to
meet their needs.
Unknown (07:59):
Well, one of the things you walk the audience through,
and we'll talk a lot about thistoday, is how there are certain
aspects of city life. It's notunique to Baltimore, where
things happen that impact you,that's more than just your
mental health that could lead tosocial isolation. And, and you
really need to rely on yourneighbors and the good of the
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people around you to support youto get through that. So walk us
through that a little bit.
Explain to our listeners and ourviewers and how, what that
concept is about site socialisolation, in terms of how you
described it impacting health.
Yolanda Ogbolu (08:37):
Sure, yeah, social isolation, is because of
my walks to the library, right.
And that really triggered myinterest in social isolation.
And social isolation is ahousehold word now, because of
the pandemic, but socialisolation, it happened way
before the pandemic. And so, um,social isolation means that you
lack meaningful relationshipsand connections with one another
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with other people. But it's morethan just about people when you
live in certain communities.
You're also socially isolatedfrom the resources and the
experiences that you need everyday, those social factors that
you might not be exposed to haveimpacts on your health. And what
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I mean by that is, like, Do youhave a playground to play in
that safe, right to have placeswhere you can get food, um, so
you can be socially isolatedfrom foods and socially isolated
from places where you can walkand exercise and keep yourself
healthy. And we know that socialisolation, as implications is as
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dangerous as smoking 15cigarettes per day, right? And
it increases your risk for heartdisease, hypertension, and
increases your risk for heartattack. But we also can only
imagine the impact that it hason your mental health, right? So
it increases stress and anxiety.
So When one of my studies that Idid recently called belonged to
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Baltimore, that study reallyfocused on looking at social
isolation, looking at mothers ofyoung children. And that was
really interesting because I wasable to go out and talk to
community members and get theirperceptions of social isolation.
And one father said to me,imagine living in a block where
there's 20 houses, 12 of themare vacant. Two of them are
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older adults that are boltedbehind the doors, and you're
afraid to let your children goout and play because the
playground is not safe. And hesaid, Yes, I'm isolated,
isolated in my house. And so weknow that, you know, there are
lots of work that needs to bedone to really improve the
conditions within the city sothat people are connected to
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their neighbors, that they canhave a safe playground, they can
have a grocery store. And soI've really dedicated my
research career to focusing onhow to make substantial change
in those areas.
Charles Schelle (11:01):
Did you notice these patterns as as a child or
teenager? Or did it become morelike a solidified in your mind?
And as you started to go throughyour education? And through your
practice?
Yolanda Ogbolu (11:16):
Yeah, absolutely. So as a child, I
witnessed things, and I didn'tunderstand it, right? Where I
grew up was predominantlyAfrican American. And, you know,
many people were unemployed. Andfrom my eyes, I could witness
the inequities in terms of veryclose to university, I saw
people can't go into work. Butthose people didn't look like
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me. Right. And so, you know, asa child, I noticed the
inequities, but I couldn't nameit. Right. And so one of the
beauties of being at the Schoolof Nursing was I was able to
really take courses on socialjustice, take global health
courses, and really understandwhat that meant. And to be able
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to name it right to name itsocial justice, to understand
inequities and wealth, and to beable to understand why why
things look the way they did inmy neighborhood, because in the
back of my mind, even as a kid,the great thing I had was, I was
always curious about why, why isit like, that was the guy. And
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that's a trigger that I thinkreally put me on the path to
academia. Right? You just keepasking why and why researching
more and more and why and whyand then suddenly, why can't we
do something about this? Nowthat we understand Yeah. What's
next?
Dana Rampolla (12:38):
Well, so that belong, belong to Baltimore
program that would you say thatkind of shaped where you moved
forward with the richcollaborative that?
Yolanda Ogbolu (12:47):
Absolutely, absolutely. Because the West--
Belong to Baltimore study reallylooked at mental health
outcomes. It looked at stressand anxiety as it relates to
social isolation. And, you know,we we learned a lot, right? A
surprising finding I just wantto share really quickly about
that is I also measured hope,oh, and that study, and one of
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the things that I learned wasthat people that had higher
levels of hope, were lesssocially isolate. And I think
that's really interested insomething that I'm interested in
pursuing more in future researchprojects, but knowing that
people have more risk forhypertension, for heart attack,
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that was also something reallyimportant to examine. And that's
what led to the West BaltimoreRICH Collaborative, in terms of
looking at the relationshipbetween hypertension and social
isolation, and then reallypartnering with really great
partners.
Dana Rampolla (13:47):
So this led you to think about the RICH
collaborative, tell us whatwe've referred to it a couple of
times, what does the acronymstand for, and you received when
we first connected last fall,you had just received a
tremendous grant to fund thatprogram. So tell us a little bit
about that.
Yolanda Ogbolu (14:03):
So I'm really excited to be leading what's
called the West Baltimore RICHcollaborative and the West
Baltimore RICH collaborative isreally focusing on Reducing
Inequities and Isolation andCardiovascular Health. And so
that's what RICH stands for. Andit's a collaboration of 14
organizations. So 10 communitybased organizations to federally
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qualified health centers, to twoMedical Systems, University of
Maryland medical system andascension St. Agnes. And so we
have been working together forfive years. We had that
discussion this week, and wecouldn't believe it, of which
only a year and a half of that'sbeen funded. And so that will
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tell you there's a commitmentfrom both community based
organizations, federallyqualified health centers and
hospitals as well as where We'repartnering with Coppin
University School of Nursing,that are really committed to
improving the health of peoplethat live in West Baltimore. And
we know that hypertension is themost serious issue that's
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happening in terms of chronicdisease in West Baltimore, and
that African Americans are atmuch higher risk for
hypertension. And so we'vereally been working to reduce
hypertension through a multilevel intervention. And so the
project really focuses on fivekey interventions. So I'll just
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walk you through them reallyquickly. So one of them is a
health equity LearningCollaborative. And what does
that mean? It means that these14 organizations are committed
to working together to learningfrom one another, to really have
an bi directional learning fromcommunity based organizations to
hospitals to how can we do thisbetter? How can we touch the
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community better? How can wereach and so we've learned so
much from one another is spurredoff into other projects. The
second thing that we're doing isreally addressing social
determinants of health through acommunity health worker model.
So we've been able to hirepeople from West Baltimore, as
well as others from across thecity, they're really come and be
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engaged, and work directly withcommunity members, community
outreach workers are really laypeople that can go in and really
talk to community members, speakto them in a language that is
really easy to understand. Andto really engage them to
understand what their socialneeds are, what do they need
help with finances, help withemployment, help with housing,
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and then identify resources andthen reach back out to them and
close the loop on thoseresources. We've also been doing
primary and secondary events,what that means is we've been
out doing the events on how youcan reduce your blood pressure.
So sometimes we have events atcommunity based organizations
that are our partners like theDruid Heights, CDC, or Light
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Health and Wellness. Andsometimes we do it all together,
like I'd be more healthy baby,I'm sorry, be more healthy
Baltimore work at the conventioncenter. And we recently had a
major event at Roberta's House,which is another one of our
programs that focuses on havingsupport groups that can help
people that are sociallyisolated and have experienced
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violence. In addition to thatwe're doing self measured blood
pressure programs, because webelieve that people at home can
help to control their own bloodpressure if they're given the
resources that they need. So weprovide people with blood
pressure cuffs, we teach themhow to use it. And we give them
the parameters to let them knowwhat's too high was too low,
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when you're okay, and when youreally need to go out and see
your primary care physician. Andthen one of the things we did
that's really exciting is nurseled clinics. And so part of that
proposal was to open up nurseled clinics. And so we've been
able to open up a nurse ledclinic and collaboration with
the Medical Center at McCulloughHomes. And that's really
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exciting, where we have a nursepractitioner in there that is
providing care to people thatlive within the senior facility
in Baltimore. And then we'vepartnered with other nurse like
clinics, like the nurse healthsuite, and the University of
Maryland. Baltimore, has acommunity engagement center. And
within that center, we have ahealth suite. And we have one of
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our nurses from the School ofNursing, Dr. Kelly Duran, that
manages that clinic onWednesday. This is a lot of
interventions, and I'm sharing asnapshot and I'm missing
something. But what I want youto say about it is because it's
14 organizations, there's a lotof power when we can come
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together. So when wecollaborate, we can do more for
the community to gather than anyof the organizations can do
alone. And so we've been able toaddress social isolation by
doing the support groups, aswell. So yeah, that's a really
exciting proposal. And that wassubmitted and funded as this
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collaboration. And now there's anew opportunity coming for us to
resubmit for some additionalfunding for another five years
for that process.
Charles Schelle (19:19):
Wonderful.
on what some of theorganizations do, and obviously,
right, as you said, collaborate.
Collaboration is key with somany partners, and some of them
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have their own role. Again, youdon't have to go through the
entire list and you share someof the things that the community
engagement center does, forinstance, but are there a couple
partners who have a maybe aninteresting role or niche role
in this that really complementsand brings this all together?
Yolanda Ogbolu (20:01):
Oh, sure. I mean, I think all of the
organizations are contributingin a really special way. I think
something that is really specialis in the School of Nursing. And
in the School of Nursing, we'remanaging the community outreach
worker model, right. And that'sbeen just really interesting. We
partner with the communityengagement center, for example,
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with their workforce developmentprogram to really try to
identify people in Baltimorethat would be qualified for
those roles. So we're alwaysreaching out and trying to
recruit more people into thoseroles, but the community
outreach workers just reallybring a special touch to the
program. There's some, again,the power of the people in
Baltimore, right, bringing incommunity members as part of our
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team, and then really givingthem the power to go out and
impact other people in thecommunity. I really think that's
been one of the most excitingparts of the program. And then
we have others like AscensionSt. Agnes total healthcare, and
chase Braxton that also havemobile units. We have the
Governor as well mobile in theSchool of Nursing. But we've
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been able to leverage thosemobile vans, those mobile
clinics that go out into thecommunity, so that community
members don't have to come tous. And we also are willing to
go to them. And so those areother special parts of the
program.
Charles Schelle (21:21):
You know, what's really amazing is that
there's sometimes there's grantsawarded or research that it
takes maybe 1,2, 3 years untilyou start getting returned
results. And it sounds like youhit the ground running
immediately to launch a lot ofthis. So just that that's just
amazing. So congrats --congratulations for getting all
of that out on the streets soquickly.
Yolanda Ogbolu (21:41):
Yeah, I think when you talk to community
members, what community memberswill say, stop collecting so
much information, and let's dosomething. And this project was
really about let's do something,right. And so organizations were
willing to partner and take achance and work together and go
out and do something. And so Ithink it's been really
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meaningful. And we'll continueto track you know, the outcomes
of the program, and hopefully beable to share that to the wider
community soon. Sometimes it'shard to make a huge difference
in just a year and a half, ourproject ends in April 2024. But
we'll be able to, we have, we doknow that we've been able to
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help link people to resources tohousing, to transportation, and
we've given out about 1000,blood pressure cuffs to
individuals. So we know thatwe're making a difference. We've
touched about 3000 people in thecommunity. And so it's making a
difference.
Dana Rampolla (22:42):
In my marketing role, I actually work with the
CEC, the community engagementcenter a lot. And it really is
incredible to me. When I firstcame into the university, just
and you did mention a lot ofpeople who are out doing a lot
of things in the community, butright here at UMB, we we offer
the CEC, to the community andall of these programs that are
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helpful, but we are empoweringpeople, you know, I always try
to explain to people who havenever heard of it, we're not
just handing people fish, we areteaching them to fish. And we're
helping to provide fishing rodswhen we can through a grant like
this. So it's really powerful.
And it's incredible, like yousaid, not to just talk about it
or to inform people but toreally live it and make it work
for them. So you mentioned anend date, what do you see? Do
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you see RICH evolving any duringthat next year? So
Yolanda Ogbolu (23:32):
Sure, yeah, we have an additional about six
months left on the project. Inthe meantime, there to new call
for proposals out. And we'reapplying for the next phase so
that we can continue to expandand strengthen what we're doing
and rich. And we know that tomake a difference. And to really
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make a difference in healthoutcomes. It takes more than a
year and a half. And so we'relooking forward to the next
opportunity, which is a grantfor five years and to bringing
in more community organizationsthat will work and join
alongside as well.
Dana Rampolla (24:08):
And a shout out to the team who does all of that
grant application work becausethat's a big a big lift also so
So you said that it would wouldprobably end and then just
repeat for me the next one, ifthat's granted,
Yolanda Ogbolu (24:22):
that would be the next slide is funded, then
it will start the day after thisone's got stops. And it will be
funded for five years, which isreally a substantial time where
you would expect to see usreally reducing health
disparities in cardiovascularoutcomes after a five year
grant. So we've done a lot ofgreat work in terms of building
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the infrastructure to get 14organizations to come together
agreed to work together and thenput in all the infrastructure
needed to make the partnershipwork has been a major
accomplishment and we're reallyexcited about what we can
continue do in the future.
Unknown (25:03):
Yeah, absolutely. And just being about a year into
this, you've had some short termsuccess. And obviously, you want
to collect data to see what thetrue impacts are. But what can
other communities andorganizations kind of take away
and learn from this model to andbe inspired to do it in their
own community?
Yolanda Ogbolu (25:21):
Sure, absolutely. One of the
challenges I think in healthcaretoday is there's a lot of
fragmentation. There are placeswhere community organizations
are working and dependent fromhealthcare organizations,
independent from academicinstitutions. And I hope the
thread that you see in my workis I believe there's power in
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connecting, right, I think thatwe can do so much more together
than any one of us can do alone.
And so that connection is soimportant. And so for this
project, what I would dream thatpeople would take away from,
it's really learning how tobuild the infrastructure so that
healthcare organizations andcommunity based and federally
qualified health centers canwork together in a safe way, in
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a meaningful way, and in a waythat we all rise together.
Because I really think that'swhat's happening with the West
Baltimore rich, collaborative.
Dana Rampolla (26:16):
So let's say I'm a listener, and my interest is
piqued by all of thisconversation, how can
individuals and organizationssupport your efforts and the
work that's currently beingdone?
Yolanda Ogbolu (26:27):
Sure, well, we're excited I can tell you and
I, we have had like an opendoor. So if organizations come
in wanting to work with us, likeI know, the American Heart
Association, they were reallyexcited about the work we are
doing. And so the leader forMaryland came to us and say, I
want to be a part of this. Andso we were really excited to
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welcome her and Rhonda Chapmanfrom the American Heart
Association, you know, and shehelped us connect to more faith
based organizations, she helpedconnect us to places where they
have a kitchen, where theyactually teach people how to,
you know, do better with healthyfoods. And so you know, it's
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been we've we've really had anopen door for partnerships and
great ideas. Nobody has amonopoly on great ideas. And so
when people come and want toshare their great ideas with us,
we're open and ready to listen.
And so they could find us on ourwebpage, West Baltimore RICH
Collaborative.
Dana Rampolla (27:28):
Okay. And we'll make sure to put all that in our
show notes for people to accessit. Charles?
Charles Schelle (27:34):
Yeah, Iwas just wondering, given the theme of,
of social isolation anddeterminants of health, you
know, ring through this, and andwe're seeing the progress. Is
there something maybe cooking orsimmering beyond the rich
collaborative that you want toachieve around this topic?
Yolanda Ogbolu (27:56):
Sure. Wow. You know, I mentioned early that the
nursing school has a rich 134year history, right. And in that
history, they've always engagedin community health. And that's
something that we're reallyproud about our community public
health program. So today, I'mtalking to you about the West
Baltimore rich, but we haveprograms in the library, where
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our nurses take nurse outnursing faculty take nursing
students to the library, andthey help patients to understand
the health information that theyget from the hospital. And they
also address social determinantsof health in the library. So
they make themselves availableseveral days a week to four
libraries within Baltimore. Andit really emerged because
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librarians were seeing patientsshow up in the library they had
discharged from the hospital andthey show the discharge paper
and they asked the librarian,can you tell me what this means?
Right, and they don'tunderstand. So having nurses in
the library has been reallypowerful. We've also been in
Headstart. And so we'recentrally located at head starts
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all over the city. And that'sbeen really helpful because
having nursing nurses, nursepractitioners there, we've been
able to provide hearing examsand health physicals and help
children to get to theappropriate places that they
need to get care for asthma. Andso the nurse as a nursing
school, we have a big footprintin the community. And then we
(29:26):
also are innovative in terms ofsome of the work we're doing
about bringing global and localtogether. And so trying to look
around the world for the bestideas, and what might work in
our local communities. So we'realso lead something called the
Global Learning for HealthEquity network, which is a
(29:47):
partnership with a lot ofdifferent organizations from
across the country. That'sreally focused on how can we
learn the best from around theworld and bring it into our
local community so that we canreduce health disparities. So we
have a lot going on and theSchool of Nursing that's really
exciting around communityhealth. And I think a lot of
(30:07):
people might not know. But we'recommitted to the community, to
Baltimore to the state ofMaryland. We've worked on rural
places on the eastern shore withour well mobiel. We routinely go
to Prince George's County on aweekly basis where we provide
care to a large immigrantpopulation in Prince George's
(30:30):
County. So I'm, you know, verydedicated and committed not only
in the city, but across thestate of Maryland.
Dana Rampolla (30:37):
Thank you so much for being on and just
enlightening us all and sharingthe great work that the whole
school is doing, not only inBaltimore, but beyond. Yes.
Yolanda Ogbolu (30:46):
So thank you so much for having me. I really
appreciate it.
Charles Schelle (30:49):
Thank you, Dean.
Yolanda Ogbolu (30:49):
Bye bye.
Jena Frick (30:55):
UMB pulse with Charles Shelley and Dana
rampolla is a UMB Office ofCommunications and Public
Affairs production, edited byCharles Shelley marketing by
Dana rampolla.
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