Friday Night Rambles VOL: 16 Dating in Atlanta: Accountability, Attention, and the Myth of “Readiness”

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James (00:01):
And saying the same exact thing.
And so he was like, So youyeah, you can't rather.
But anyways, go ahead, Mike.

Keshia (00:10):
Well, what I will say is if you can't relate, be happy,
you cannot relate.
Because there are some peoplein this world that are truly
lonely.
They have no family, they haveno friends, they have no that's
what I'm getting at.
You you you just be be gratefulyou cannot relate.
But don't judge the people thatif that's their last go-to, do

(00:34):
what works for you.

James (00:38):
And be grateful that you can relate while you can.
Exactly.
So because you can immediatelylose your life could change in
the blink of an eye.

Keshia (00:46):
That is very true.

Michael (00:49):
Man, would I ever break down?
I don't even want to do that.
You can't say no.

Keshia (00:57):
Don't ever say what you want.
Never do.
You like to do that?

unknown (01:02):
Life.

Michael (01:06):
But I wouldn't even do it out of curiosity.

James (01:08):
Like, like first you would do it out of curiosity,
dude.
Why are you saying that?
Okay.

KeKe (01:13):
I think you would do it.
Maybe curiosity.

James (01:15):
Maybe I would rent one for a even take it for a someone
hit the brakes.

Michael (01:23):
Could you could you imagine somebody selling a used
one?

James (01:27):
Me.

Michael (01:28):
Could you imagine someone buying a used one?

James (01:32):
And guess what?
They're out there.

Michael (01:35):
Oh bro, it's so many fucking weirdos.
Yeah, I've only had them forsix months.
Like, bro.
Oh my god.
How much could happen in sixmonths?

James (01:45):
It just wasn't for me.

Michael (01:47):
Oh man, she's barely got no miles.

James (01:50):
I'm thinking of upgrading.
Oh my god, that's crazy.
But yeah, they're out there.
Weirdos, dude.
And god damn it, they're theyconsistently are white.
And it makes dude.

Michael (02:06):
In Asian.
In Asian.

Speaker 00 (02:10):
Oh wow.

Keshia (02:10):
Well, I'll say, I'm pretty sure it's some black
people like them.
They just don't see it.

James (02:17):
Yeah, everybody does it.
Yeah.
The type of black dude who getscaught doing that type of shit
is the guy that you remember theguy.
You remember the guy who waslike, I like white girls, the
thick type.
It's that dude.
He's autistic.
He loves he his mom probablybeat him for trying to turn
Super Saiyan in his room.
That's funny.
Just screaming at the top ofhis lungs, watching Dragon Ball

(02:41):
Z.
He loves anime.

Keshia (02:46):
He's just different.
He's just different.

Michael (02:50):
But you know what?
Rolling into it.
But but in in today's society,dating and relationships are
starting to become sosuperficial.
You don't know what's real,what's fake.
And the game is played so wellthese days.

(03:12):
Like somebody could have, youknow, have you going for a loop
and then out of nowhere, youknow, it just sweeps you like a,
you know, from under you.
I've heard so many, you know,stories of somebody saying,
Yeah, man, I met this person.
Three months later, they're ina relationship.

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Three months later, they moveinto each other.
Three months later, they findout it's a whole nother family
on the other side of town.

Keshia (03:41):
Especially in that is possible.

Michael (03:44):
And it's but it but it it sucks.
But when you live in a placelike this, it's it's very easy
to get caught up like thatbecause you can literally have
somebody in Alpharetta, somebodyin Conyers.

Keshia (03:59):
Really just like the audacity.
They don't care no more.
I had this conversation lasttwo days.
They do not care anymore.
The downside of Atlanta isthere are too many females here.
Dudes don't have to holdthemselves accountable.

(04:20):
I had a dude tell me, well, iflet's say God sends you exactly
what you're looking for, whatyou need, but you just not ready
to receive her because youstill playing the game or
whatever the case may be, hisresponse to me was, Well, that's
okay.
I just go on to the next one.
Hopefully, my eyes are openthat I can see she's what I

(04:41):
need.
But if not, I didn't move on.
Oh wow.

Michael (04:45):
What's the problem?
What do you mean?
What's the problem?

Keshia (04:50):
Straight up, like how do you build with somebody if you
just gonna have that over here?

James (04:54):
How do you build with somebody if you just take from
somebody?

Keshia (04:57):
What do you mean?
How are you able to build withsomeone if it's just that's all
right, you ain't work out, I'llmove on to the next one.

Michael (05:09):
It happens all the time with males and females.
But it's on both sides.
On both sides.
Sometimes one person's notready, sometimes the other
person's not ready.
So if you are if you're thatperson that's ready, and this
person is not, and you'resteadily trying to, you know, go

(05:30):
after that person, of coursethat person's not gonna, you
know, receive it because they'renot in that that space.
Agreed.
And you can't fault that personfor not grasping grasping on.
So it's like you literally, butthe thing is, what sucks is

(05:52):
people ain't straight up.

Keshia (05:54):
That is the problem.
That's the part that's theproblem.

James (05:57):
And I think also it's they're not straight up with
other people and also notstraight up with themselves.

KeKe (06:02):
Agreed.
Yeah, for sure.

James (06:04):
And I think a lot of people go in with like um, and
this is goes back to socialmedia, like it's like just
delusions of what you expect,what what you think a
relationship should look like.
But it's really just, you know,if you meet someone, if you

(06:25):
vibe or whatever, like it shouldjust be that.

Keshia (06:27):
But what is a relationship supposed to look
like?
Good question.

James (06:31):
Uh-huh.

Keshia (06:32):
Very good question.

Michael (06:34):
I are you asking that in a sarcastic way to be able to
do it?

Keshia (06:36):
Okay, what is a person, what is a person supposed to
look like that that like whatare you looking for in this
person that you should be inthis relationship with?
Like, what is it supposed whatis that person supposed to look
like?
Like, like what are you lookingfor for this relationship?
For you to not find it in thisand then in what time frame?

(06:59):
It's it's right.
How long am I supposed to waitfor you to get your shit
together?
But the but see, I feel likethat's the problem.

James (07:06):
It's like you shouldn't have to wait for people to get
their shit together.

KeKe (07:09):
So you shouldn't have to wait for people to get their
shit together.

Keshia (07:12):
However, do so do you deprive yourself of a
relationship because you don'tthat person doesn't have their
shit together?

James (07:20):
No, I deprive myself, I deprive myself because I don't
have my shit together.
Okay.
It's not it I fucked up a lotof shit.
Okay, and so I know and I havedabbled, but it I know that I'm
not ready for that.
I don't want to hurt people.

(07:40):
I don't wanna you know, I don'twant to fuck about.
It's not a game.

Keshia (07:44):
So if you get with someone who says, Okay, I hear
all that, what you're saying,right?

KeKe (07:50):
Right.
I'm willing to be with youwhile you work through these
things.

Keshia (07:54):
You gonna say no and pass up something good because
of your own, you know.
As far as y'all just kickingit, she knows I'm not.
I told her I wasn't ready.
She knows I'm not ready, butshe's deciding to still
entertain me knowing I'm notready.
So how long do you expect herto stick around?
And then do you expect her tostick around?

James (08:14):
I don't.
No.

Keshia (08:16):
But if she did, you're gonna but if she did, you'll let
her.
And that is the messed up part,I think.
But but she's wrong forsticking around.
How is that the messed up part?
But because then you'll say,Well, I told you.

KeKe (08:29):
How can you say, but you also how am I at fault?

James (08:32):
How am I at fault for you sticking around?

KeKe (08:35):
But you also didn't stick to the side.

James (08:36):
You'll let of course I'll let you.
But you also didn't say that.
Of course, it feels good, itfeels good while I'm working
through my shit.

Keshia (08:42):
But you also did not say, Well, if you don't want to
hurt, you say you don't want tohurt someone.

James (08:47):
But you'll stick around, you just said.

Keshia (08:49):
And you let me.
Of course.

KeKe (08:51):
Why?
But hold up, hold on, hold on.

Michael (08:53):
Because you said you wouldn't accountability.

KeKe (08:56):
I'm not saying the first time.

Michael (08:58):
Once once he said how he felt, from that point on, the
ball is in your court.
It's not on him no more.
Because the thing that mostwomen want is honesty and being
straight up.
And that man was being straightup just then and saying, if I'm

(09:18):
I'm I don't want to hurt, Idon't want to do this, I don't
want to do that.
And you're like, Well, I'llwait around, but I don't know
how long you're gonna waitaround.
Okay, so from that point on,whatever the fuck you get,
you're just gonna have to takethat shit because you had it out
when he told you that, but youwanted to stay.

(09:40):
That was straight up honesty.

James (09:43):
That's where I'm at.
And if you if you choose tostay, of course you stay.
Of course, because if I'mtelling that to a person, that
means I care about them.

Keshia (09:54):
Nah, no.
You can't say that no.
I can guarantee.
I you can't care about them.

KeKe (09:59):
I'm in a situation now about me, and person don't care
nothing.

Keshia (10:02):
And the drop of the line be willing to be like, all
right, bye.
That's not, I don't thinkthat's cared about somebody.
I feel like at the beginning.

James (10:09):
If I'm being honest, you can't be straight up about me
and saying this is where I'm at.
Dude.

Keshia (10:15):
That does not mean that you care about me.
That means that you are beinghonest, and it's on you to take
what I'm saying.
If you stay, you stay, youdon't, you don't.

Michael (10:24):
But at the same token, that person can't care for you.

Keshia (10:28):
They can develop being careful, start caring for you.

Michael (10:31):
But at first, if if I if if I don't want to fuck you
over, I gotta care somewhat.
It might not be I love you or II don't believe it.
I hard care about you.
And listen, but I care aboutyou enough that I don't want to
fuck you over.

James (10:47):
And that's all I'm trying to say.
And so let's let's check thisout.
So if I tell you straight up,like, I'm dealing with my own
shit, I'm trying to work throughthis shit, I don't think this
is gonna work, and you say,Well, I'll work through it with
you, okay.
We'll go with that.
If I work through it and I makeit, I'm a champion and you

(11:12):
stuck by me side by side.
That I mean you're choosing.
I don't like it.

Keshia (11:15):
If I fuck up, because if I fuck up, everybody always got
going on.
Even if I stay with you throughyou working through your BS,
that does not mean becauseyou've already said at the
beginning, I'm not ready for arelationship.
I chose to stay and work withyou through your BS.
Once you work through your BS,it's not a guarantee that you're

(11:36):
gonna pick me.
You might go out and oh now I'mwith somebody else now.
Or I choose somebody else now.

James (11:41):
We're getting we're getting past the first thing.
If I tell you that I'm notready for a relationship and you
tell me, well, I want to stayanyways, that is on you.

Keshia (11:52):
Agreed, but you're gonna be doing relationship stuff.
You getting the benefits, butit is on her to provide all of
that.

Michael (12:00):
It's the pen there you go.
That's on her.

James (12:16):
A trial period.
It's just straight up platonic.

Keshia (12:20):
It may not even grow into anything.
You gotta be willing to acceptthat.
That it may not grow intonothing.

James (12:26):
Most times it doesn't.

Michael (12:29):
People know so seven is with us by phone, y'all.
And you know, we're gonnacontinue going from where we
are.
So seven, we was talking about,you know, dating and um the
dating scene right now, and youknow, we're caught up in a in a
back and forth about um what howhow can how can I say this?

Keshia (12:52):
Um if a guy tells you that he is not ready for a
relationship for whateverreason, and you decide to stay,
as a female, are you boo-boo thefool for staying?
Or are you okay, I'm gonna beyour ride or die.
I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna ridethis till till the wheels fall
off, till you work through yourbullshit.

(13:13):
He's saying it's all on thewoman if she stays.
That's on you.
Yes.

Seven (13:19):
I I agree.

Michael (13:20):
I think I think I don't know if I would say she's a
fool, but I would say Yeah, it'snot a it's not always a
negative, but sorry, go ahead.

Seven (13:28):
I would say, I would say, you know, proceed at her own
risk, because like he alreadytold you that he's not really
wanting anything.
And so if you move forward,it's like that's on you, you
know, like you can't be youcan't be shocked if it doesn't
turn into anything because youalready knew going into it.

Michael (13:52):
And so, so the the two ladies uh they don't agree with
that wholeheartedly.
No, I agree with that.
No, we agree with that.

Keshia (14:04):
The issue is no no no no no.
I agree with that.
We agree with that.
That is not the part.
The issue is So what's what'sthe at what point do both
parties take accountability?
I either walk away because youstill own this, I'm not ready
for a relationship, but you getin all relationship benefits,
right?
Or hey, I'm gonna go ahead andmake you mine because you have

(14:27):
stuck with me through thick andthin.

James (14:29):
How is not telling someone that you are not ready
for a relationship takingaccountability and being like,
dude, I don't want to go anyfurther.
If I go further, you're goingto love me more, and I don't
want to do that.
So I don't because I don't wantto hurt you.
So let's at the beginning.

Keshia (14:45):
Let's say that this goes on for four or five years, ten
years.

Michael (14:49):
Well, now you're changing timelines.
The ball is still in court.
But that is very important.
The ball is still in yourcourt.
That's just like a nigga beingin the friend zone.

KeKe (14:57):
Now, yeah, I know.

Michael (14:58):
The ball is that's a very good comparison.
That's a very good comparison.
The ball is always in that thatin the city.

Keshia (15:04):
Nah, because that let's just say she cut cold turkey
right now.
Right?
She cut him cold turkey.

Michael (15:08):
Uh-huh.

Keshia (15:09):
He's gonna feel away.
You know you're gonna feelaway.

James (15:13):
Detachment always has its feelings, bro.
Do you not think that me goingto someone and being like, I'm
not ready for a relationship?
Um you think I'm just cuttingthat off and being like, like,
no.
Um, of course that's stillgonna suck.
And I've done that.

Keshia (15:28):
Because uh So, what is the point if you tell the girl I
get everybody needscompanionship?
I guess I'm getting ready toanswer my own question.
What is the point what is thepoint of telling a girl I'm not
ready for a relationship butallowing her to stay around or
because everyone needscompanionship?
I guess there you go.

James (15:49):
I feel like I feel like when it okay people get lonely.
I'm sorry, go ahead.

Seven (15:56):
So if I I wish I was I wish I was on video.

James (16:00):
I wish you were here.

Michael (16:02):
I know I wish I was too, like, we didn't even do an
introduction, but well, we we wedid introduct well, we we we
did introductions on on the thecamera, but as you you you met
you met Keisha, and then we alsohave Kiki.

(16:24):
Uh sorry Kanisha over here aswell.

KeKe (16:29):
Okay, Kiki.
I can be Kiki.
I can be Kiki, it's okay.

Michael (16:35):
Kiki.

unknown (16:36):
Kiki and Keisha.

Seven (16:39):
Okay, um, so okay, so this is how I feel about it,
right?
Because I've been on bothsides.
And so I feel like if I knowthat I'm looking for a
relationship, like if I if I ifI decided that I'm ready for a
relationship, that's what Iwant, and I meet a guy and he's
like, I don't want arelationship, then for me, if I

(17:02):
know I want one, I'm not gonnacontinue talking to him.
Like the choice I make.
If I know he doesn't want whatI want, I'm always my problem.
I'm gonna keep thinking arounduntil I find somebody that I
like that doesn't want what Iwant.

(17:22):
Otherwise, I'm kind of playingmyself.

Keshia (17:26):
I agree.
I can't um You agree.
No, thank you.
I agree.
I can't agree, I can't agreewholeheartedly.
And the reason I say that isbecause it depends on the
person's on the femalesituation.
So I'll give you an example.
As it always does.

(17:47):
No, no, no.
My life right now, I want arelationship, I'm not ready for
a relationship.
I have my reasons why I'm notready for a relationship.
The guy that I'm talking to, hesaid at the beginning, I'm not
ready for a relationship.

James (18:02):
So why are you talking to him for something to do?

Keshia (18:06):
Because with me, if people know me, I'm a homebody.
I'm I'm I'm focused on my kidright now and getting her off to
college.
So he is something, he'sserving his purpose in his life.
But I know this ain't goingnowhere.
And yeah, it ain't gonna benothing.
Now, once Kaya graduates, we'llprobably still be friends, but
it ain't we're not workingtowards anything.

(18:27):
Then I will start activelydating and actually looking to
see, okay, if I end up in arelationship.
But right now I don't want arelationship.
I want a relationship, but Idon't want anybody.
Fair enough.

KeKe (18:40):
When you're finished with your kid, are you going to want
a relationship?
You're gonna date other people,but what about him?
He's not he's not then thetables turn.

Keshia (18:49):
If you stay around, you stay around.
If you don't, you don't.
And that's gonna be aconversation head, right?
I think we've already had thatconversation.
Um now, if he forgets in thenext year and a half, that's on
him.

Seven (19:03):
So do y'all have feelings for each other?

Keshia (19:05):
Like I used to have feelings for him, I no longer
have feelings for him.
Okay.
So I'm the type of person thatI'm the type of person that the

(19:26):
honeymoon I fall in thehoneymoon phase really, really,
really, really quickly.
So and I my fault and my flawis I feel like I can change
people.
I am now to the to to therealization that Keisha, you
can't change nobody.
And then the more that you arearound somebody and you get to

(19:48):
know somebody, you realize, no,you don't have the
characteristics that I want inmy husband.
I'm good.
Like it even if you worked onyourself, like James said, you
work through your bullshit.
I don't want struggle loveanymore.
I'm not willing to go throughthat.
I've been through it too manytimes, and I understand that no

(20:10):
relationship is perfect, andthere's gonna be some type of
struggle love, but I know mylimits.
I'm not willing to go throughyou fixing your bullshit to say,
okay, I'm ready now.
Now I'm good.
No, thank you.

Seven (20:23):
Yeah, I feel that.
I definitely feel that like thestruggle love and I ain't with
that fixing yourself or you withme like black.

Michael (20:34):
But you know, on on the on the flip side, I see a lot
of these guys, and you know, alot of them can be infatuated
with with somebody, and theywill go broke, go all the way
out their way, and still end upstuck in the friend zone.

(20:55):
And a lot of times he knowshe's in the friend zone and
accepts it, helps her get readyfor dates and everything.

KeKe (21:05):
Oh wow.

Michael (21:06):
There are guys I know nobody like that.

KeKe (21:10):
From a dude's perspective, who the hell does that?

Michael (21:12):
There's guys there's guys out here that that that
plays the friend and that sitshere and acts like ain't nothing
going on, but he knows that hewants to be in the spot, but he
can't get there.
It might be because he's ugly,his breath stank, he's short,
especially the short guys.
Shout out short guys.

Speaker 00 (21:33):
Shout out short guys, and you sink.
Shout out the short kings.

James (21:37):
Hold on a second.
First off, shout out the shortkings.
Second off, James, you ain'tshort neither.
What?
You ain't short neither.
I know that.
But I wish them out.
Yeah.
And second off, second off,hold on.
You don't try to sit here andbe a he's trying to be like, oh,
yeah, uh short king.
No.
You're a height supremacist.

(21:58):
No, no, no.
Yes, you do.
Because you know, oh, everyonethinks that they're six foot.
They say, oh, I'm 5'11, I'm5'10, or they think they're six
foot.
It's dude.

Michael (22:09):
Because that they're like, it's just like, you know,
I'm 5'11, proud.

James (22:16):
I'm just damn proud of 5'11.

Michael (22:18):
Right, right.
But some will be like 5'11 andstill scream they're six feet
tall.
People do like, yeah, but thatshit is gay.
They know that that six feetmarker is for some odd reason,
like right now, the six figures,the six feet.
For some odd reason.

James (22:36):
It's these guys.
You're an idiot.
They're doing.
All they talk about is height.
Look at her.
She's trying to hide a smile.
She knows.

Keshia (22:43):
Listen, I know I like somebody that's my height or
taller, perfectly taller.
I don't, I don't want nobody myheight.
You gotta be taller than me.
Yeah, I I give you a passdepending on what you look like,
if you're my height.
But normally I would prefersomebody taller than you.

James (22:57):
I'm see, I'm I the tallest I'll go is like 5'9 for
a woman.
Yeah, I can see that.

Keshia (23:06):
Most people want to date somebody that's for guys
shorter than them, for guy forfemales taller than them.

James (23:15):
I can understand the uh the female's mind of you know uh
a giant.

Keshia (23:23):
Yeah, like you want to look up at your dude.

James (23:27):
All right, whatever.
That's fine.
But the short kings, they gottaget they gotta have their day.
They are the most discriminatedpeople.
They are the most discriminatedpeople.

Keshia (23:37):
They have a heart, they do have a heart.

Michael (23:39):
But that's why, that's why a lot of them, a lot of them
will sit there and they're veryaggressive.
You see a lot of short guysbeing very big or bosses.

Keshia (23:46):
But we have a problem.
Because we're the same size,don't get aggressive with me.
What are you doing?
We're the same size, don't getaggressive with me.

Michael (23:56):
But see, that's the thing though, you know, that's
how you'll get a subway single.

Keshia (23:59):
Honestly, you don't find too many short alpha males.
Most of them are beta males,they're not alpha males.

Michael (24:08):
So let's take a break, real yes, dude.
God, cigarette time.
All right, and we are back atthe quick break.
Uh so I'm um I'm still gettingused to filming, and so we had
the beginning filming, and thenit's my bedtime, and then we ran

(24:35):
out of memory card space, sowe're gonna continue this.

James (24:40):
Bro, you're the type of person you probably when you
sleep, you probably snore likeyou go honk shoo, honk, you go,
now with that bedtime, do thatalarm.
Well, man, you honk shoo, dude.
You definitely can't shoot.

Michael (24:56):
I like, I like, I like soft stuff, you know what I'm
saying?
Like, you know, I like the windblowing at night time.
You know, I like all that typeof stuff.
I don't know why people, youknow, like I like my music, you
know, soft.
Well, not soft, soft, but youknow, I don't like all that.
Shoot them up, bang, bang, youknow.
So anywho, I wasn't coming atyou, bro.

(25:20):
I was just saying, I wasn'ttaking it no way, you know me.

James (25:24):
But um, what were we what where were we at before we uh
we were talking about how Sevenwas saying that I was right
about everything that I said.

Michael (25:39):
But oh, I remember I was talking, I was, I flipped
it, and we were talking aboutthe guys, you know.
I I think that I think thatreally it's it's on both ends,
because I think that just asmuch as a guy will reap the
benefits off of a woman stand, alot of time a woman reaps the

(26:03):
benefit off of a guy staying inthe friend zone that don't mind
every time they go out, he paysfor the dinner.

Keshia (26:09):
Agreed.
Like the purpose of my friend,he's bringing me.
If you go back and listen tothe last podcast I was on, he's
bringing me out of my bubble.
He's getting me used to talkingto someone every day, he's
getting me used to tellingsomeone about my day, he's

(26:29):
getting me used to we're goingout and he's paying for it.
And I'm not always paying forit.
You know what I mean?
We're paying for it together.
Like he's getting me out of mybubble.
So while we know this ain'tgoing nowhere, you're serving
your purpose.
If that makes sense.

Michael (26:44):
But do you think that your emotions are gonna get too
involved after a while?

Keshia (26:48):
I know what it is.
Again, like I just said, youyou don't have the qualities
that I want in my husband.
I you know what?
I understand what you'resaying, but it'd be like you I
will feel like I'm wastingmyself away.
If I were dating andentertaining other people, yes,

(27:10):
I would be wasting time withhim.
But because I'm not datinganybody and I'm not entertaining
anyone else, or even puttingmyself in the situation to meet
someone else, because mylifestyle is I'm a parent 24-7,
literally.
I don't have time to meetnobody else.

James (27:27):
So you're just wasting his time.

Keshia (27:29):
No, okay.
He don't are on the same thing.
I know we don't have time.
Yeah, it's not even like wedon't we don't have time, but
it's not all right.
So, yeah, fair, fair enough.
It's not even necessarily thetime for me, it's just myself in
general.
Like, I'm giving something tosomebody, and nothing is gonna
come of this.
It's like it's a waste of time,body, emotion, everything.

(27:54):
So it's just like that likethat.
Like I get it, he's there forthe time being, but I don't
know.
I just I don't know.

Michael (28:04):
You never had a smash and dash.

Keshia (28:06):
It ain't even about it ain't even about I guess my
thing is this, and I'll say it.
But I'm not gonna be able to dothat I was in a situation
before meeting him where whenyou didn't have anybody, you
didn't have adult contact, youdidn't have, you were a mom
24-7, and you didn't goanywhere, and you didn't like

(28:27):
you, you it's not a good placeto be mentally.
So again, he's serving hispurpose.
Okay, I don't want to go backto that.
Right.
If I had a roster, okay, yeah,you're not serving your purpose,
move on, but that's not me.

Michael (28:40):
After she graduates, will you get a roster?

Keshia (28:43):
Probably not, because you know that's still not me.

Michael (28:45):
Probably not.

Keshia (28:46):
Probably not, no.
Because my thing is this Idon't understand about a roster.
How can you seriously takesomebody serious or get to know
somebody seriously when you gotall these other people that you
be entertaining?
It's not possible.
I don't care what you say.
Now, dudes, they claim they cando it all.
You cannot do that.

(29:07):
Right, you can't do that.
To this one person to see ifit'll make out, you know, if
it'll be something becauseyou're giving it to people.

Michael (29:15):
I bet if I went through y'all phones right now, it's a
nigga named Dinner, it's a nigganamed Light Bill, it's a nigga
named Gas.

Keshia (29:27):
I'm still trying to figure out why my students hey,
listen, that part is at the endof the day, if you if you think
about it like that, gas, lightbill, phone bill, whatever, at
what point does it becomeprostitution?
At what point does it becomeprostitution?
You fucking just to getsomething out of somebody?
No, you don't do that.

James (29:47):
But you be on a date, all of a sudden Georgia Power
starts calling.

Speaker 06 (29:51):
Nah, man, no.

Michael (29:54):
But but but but we we all we all have social media.
All look at YouTube.
We all see Instagram.
We all see TikTok.
That's what's promoted.

Keshia (30:07):
I be sitting trying to feel like it's a little bit
more.
How she done went on these minitrips?
I mean, what am I doing?
How you not feel some type ofway?
Like you fucking to get myglued out?

James (30:16):
I knew it.
What happened?
That's what they do.
What?
All they need is to go on atrip.
I need to take a picture of myfeet in the space.

Keshia (30:22):
Where did I miss the sign up?
Listen, I ain't about thatlife.
Sorry.

James (30:26):
Sucker, please.
Pay for this trip for me to goto Jamaica so I can take a
picture of my feet in the space.

Keshia (30:31):
It happens so easy with people, and I just be like,
damn.

Michael (30:35):
How do you remove yourself from your morals and
values?
Morals and values.

Keshia (30:41):
To let a nigga just okay, I'ma use this nigga to pay
for this.
I'ma use this nigga to pay forthat.
I'ma use this nigga to fly mehere.

Michael (30:52):
That's just human interaction, though.
Well, they said that's mutual.
They said that's mutual.

KeKe (30:56):
That's not using nobody.

Michael (30:58):
It's not prostitution, but it is still using him for a
purpose.
But it's not using a purpose.
Okay, but we're gonna They'reusing each other.

James (31:09):
I mean, they she just said that.

Michael (31:11):
He said that it says that.

Keshia (31:15):
I guess.
But we're talking aboutmonetary stuff.
Like when you start, oh, I'mafuck you because I need you to
pay my light bill or I need youto pay my gas bill or phone
bill.
What is worth more?

James (31:27):
Uh uh money or energy?

Keshia (31:30):
Mine is energy.
Yeah, my my opinion is I wouldprefer the person's I don't need
you to do nothing for me.
I don't need you to paynothing.
Now I'm billing my house.
Okay.

James (31:40):
But see, that's weird to me.
I couldn't imagine myself beingkeeping someone around.
If I don't if I can't see youbeing in my life for the rest of
my life, I don't really wantyou around.

Keshia (31:53):
So what do you do with your time?

James (31:56):
Stay by myself.
I'm very I I'm I'm quitecomfortable being by myself.

Keshia (32:01):
I'm comfortable by myself, but no, you're not.
But we're human, nobody is.
We're not meant to be byourselves.
So whether you be able to Idon't like being alone, but I
don't want to settle in the insomething that I know it's not
gonna go anywhere.

James (32:18):
Do you know what's worse than being by yourself is being
with another person feelingalone?

Michael (32:24):
Or being being feeling alone in a in a in a crowd of
some rooms.

unknown (32:31):
I can't see it.

Keshia (32:32):
Of course, that's not my focus on that.
My focus is on my kid, gettingher off to college.
My focus is on buying a house.

James (32:38):
And who can knock you for that?

Michael (32:40):
No one can knock you for that.
I think I think that it's easyto say that when it it is not,
it hasn't been presented.

Keshia (32:47):
So what you mean?
Let me let me say this.
So I have the same focus.
Focus on my career, focus on mydaughter.
I want to focus on, you know,building myself up, because you
know they say you are what youattract.
Okay.
However, what's the harm inhaving somebody while you're
doing those things?
My if you knew my life, my lifedoesn't cons there's no time

(33:11):
part.
But you seriously, like I don'thave time.

Michael (33:13):
But you but you still have the opportunity and time to
to for your shenanigans.

Keshia (33:19):
What shenanigans?
Like with that man.
If a man can count like rightnow.

KeKe (33:26):
If a man came into your life right now with all of this
going on, you your focus istunnel vision right now.
You said it, and we understandwhat your focus is.
If he came in and wowed youright now, you ain't gonna tell
me, sis, that you ain't gonnafind time for that damn man.

Keshia (33:42):
But what is your definition of wowing me?
I guess I it is hard out here,my guys.

James (33:49):
Boy, it's hard out here, bro.
Everything that you will wantin your dream man.
It's not gonna be yourdefinition of wow.

Keshia (33:55):
I'm telling you what wow is.
Everything that you will wantin a dream man, once all of this
has settled, the dust hassettled.
So, and you got this perfectman here, right?
And he's willing to be with youthrough whatever it is you're
saying that you're focused onright now, right?

KeKe (34:12):
You're gonna be in your shoes right now, and you're the
one saying I'm not ready.
But he's like, I'm here, Iain't going nowhere.
I'm ready.

Keshia (34:18):
And I'm my behind.
My mean ass, and Mike canattest to this.
We talk about this everyChristmas, every Thanksgiving.

James (34:26):
You're a mean ass.

Keshia (34:28):
My mean ass.

James (34:30):
You're too rude, dude.
You are a woman.
Why are you here?

unknown (34:33):
I am.

Keshia (34:34):
I am, I know I am.
I don't know.
Why are you here?
What is your purpose?
What would it what yeah?

Michael (34:42):
But I go ahead, go ahead.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean tointerrupt.

Keshia (34:45):
You're sorry.

Michael (34:46):
I I I I honestly think that, you know, there's somebody
for everybody.
Agreed.
Do you think that that with allthe I'm not ready, I'm not
ready, I'm not ready, I'mfocused on my career, I'm
focused on my kid, I'm focusedon whatever your focus is is on,
and then, you know, they'll belike, it ain't no good men out

(35:08):
here.
I think that's a good thing.
No, I won't say that.
But if there's been a uh, youknow, somebody that is presented
to you, I just think that it'llbe crazy that you keep brushing
it off, and then later on downthe line in your life.

Keshia (35:27):
Tell her okay, to her example.
If somebody like that was tocome, we would have to take it
extremely slow.

James (35:36):
I wouldn't take you seriously.
Why when you're letting someperson that you don't even care
about do what they do?
Yeah.

Seven (35:46):
And you know, like, again, I'm not there, so I I I'm
trying to say this, like, youknow, we all women, like, you
know, I'm I'm with you.
So is there something thatyou're working through or scared
of or something that hashappened that makes you because
when you say you want to take itreally slow, and I respect that

(36:08):
because you shouldn't take itslow, but it almost sounds like
there's a hesitation or likefear.

Keshia (36:14):
Yeah.
Like I I I've poured into somany people when I do take
somebody serious, I want them topour into me.
I want it to be genuine.
I ain't got time for the games.
I don't want to go throughnothing remotely reminding me of
my past at all.
Do you think that you're gonnaget that 100%?

(36:36):
You gonna get with somebody andnot gonna remind you ever of
anything you've ever beenthrough in life with.
I don't want to go throughstruggle love, but I know ain't
no love perfect.
Like you gotta go through somekind of struggle a little bit.
So when you say struggle love,right?
You know, when you get marriedand they say what you I what

(36:57):
what fucking what I I hope toget there one day.

Michael (37:01):
What fairy tale book that y'all learn relationships
from?
I know what do you mean any andall, any and all, because to be
honest with you, everybody'splaying the field differently.
And it it it's what you mean.
Let me say this.

KeKe (37:17):
Let me say this.
When you say fairy tale book, Iain't been in no damn fairy
tale book because if I was, thisshit would have been already
signed, still delivered.

Michael (37:24):
Right, like but but but but no no no but true.
What do you what are yousaying?
Because at the same token,we're going back to what we were
saying before.
Of course, it I could have had,I could have had this.
Yeah, you could have, butyou're not because you're
focused on this, that, andthird, right?
No, that's me.
She didn't say that.

(37:45):
That's me.
Okay, but but no, she justsaid, what did she say?
I'm kind of like you, I'mfocused on my career and my
daughter.
My level of it.
I could be her.
Her love level is so wages toit.

Keshia (37:59):
Hell, because I'm just not at the moment.
Are you dating?
Are you dating someone?
Not not official, like not uh adate or date people, go on
dates.

KeKe (38:11):
So when you push off to consistently, are you seeing
someone or not?

James (38:16):
No, she's planning to do that.
No, no, no.

Keshia (38:17):
She's saying she's dating people.
So to your back to what youwere asking me and what he was
saying, what do you outside ofsomething to do?
What do you get out of datingpeople?
You're getting to know people.
If someone, if you're datingsomeone and this becomes a
consistent thing, you now I canmeet a guy tomorrow.

(38:38):
Hey, call my phone.
You know, we may talk a coupledays, you want to take me on a
date.
Within those couple days,you're getting to know someone
to see if you want to continueto date to further get to know
someone.
If not, then no, it's just thatsimple.
Now, if I'm talking to someoneand it goes further than that,
and we continue to spend time,develop feelings, emotions, and

(39:00):
things, why not?
Yeah, at some point I was at astage where I said exactly what
you said.
I'm in school, um, I got adaughter, I'm focused, I'm this,
I'm that.
Yeah, that shit is boring.
Hence why he's around.
So, but you're not you don'tplan on keeping him around.
It's just like you don't haveany intention, or I don't want

(39:22):
to do that part.
No, I don't.
I see what you're saying, butyeah, no, I don't know.

James (39:29):
What she's saying is she doesn't want to eat she doesn't
want to be as down bad as youare.

Keshia (39:33):
I don't think she's down bad.
She knows exactly what she'sdoing, so you can't say down
bad.
Yeah, I definitely know whatI'm saying.
She knows exactly what she'sdoing.
Down bad is if she was overhere saying that's you know she
ain't down bad.

James (39:45):
Alright, then do what you do.

Keshia (39:47):
Do I feel like it she is she's wasting something?
Yes.
What am I wasting on?
I don't, I don't, I don't know.
If somebody could tell me whatexactly am I wasting, if you cut
the dude off and I'm nottalking to him, I'm not
entertaining anybody else, I'mnot putting myself in positions
to beat anybody else, what am Ilosing?
What am I wasting?

Michael (40:08):
To be honest, if if at the end of the day, if there's a
smile on your face, if there'sa smile on your face, my bad.
If there's a smile on yourface, it really don't matter how
anybody, you know, takes to thefeels.
At the end of the day, yourlife is your storybook.
You have to live it, you haveto go through it, you have to

(40:30):
cry through it, you have to goeverything.
So if you don't have anyregrets behind any decision that
you make, even when it is like,you know, you focusing on
whatever you focus on, youdating or whatever the case may
be.
As long as whatever you do inyour life that makes you smile

(40:51):
and it's your story, it's fine.

Keshia (40:54):
That's true.

KeKe (40:55):
Do you do you have like a stopping point?
Like, I know your goal rightnow is once you get your
daughter settled and she's goneoff to college and things like
that, right?

Keshia (41:07):
So is that where So let me add context to that.
Technically, that is mentallymy stopping point.
Okay.
However, I've said it to him.
I don't think he thinks I'mserious.
I don't think he realized howmuch I'm going to change once
she is off to college.
And I'm I'ma always be amother, but I'm no longer a

(41:29):
mother and I can go to DominicanRepublic at the time.
Would they call it like a umwhat's the word?
Um empty nesting.
Empty nester.
Yeah, like I'm an empty nesterand I can I ain't gotta wait on
nobody to travel and I can be.
Hey, Keisha, where you at?
I'm in the DR.
I'll be back next week.
Like what?
I I don't think he realizes theseriousness of what I'm saying.
So I will let you stay aroundif you choose to.

(41:52):
Not to mention me and myattitude, I probably done you
done got pissed off and probablydone blocked him again by the
time two years comes.
See.
But I'm trying to work throughthat.
But yeah, that's my goal.
When Kaya leaves, if youaround, you around.
If you know.
And I think that's what I'm Ithink that's that's one of the
things for me.
I think coming from me dealingwith past relationships and

(42:15):
people and stuff like that, it'slike, okay, at your stopping
point.
Even though you both of youguys are saying we know what
we're doing, y'all are human.
You see what I'm saying?
And it's like at that stoppingpoint, is it really gonna be
that easy?
For me, it will be.
So you have to keep the mainthing, the main thing.

(42:39):
Now it would be different ifduring these two years I see you
changing, I see you becomingthe man I need you to be.
Okay, what you're saying.
But if I keep seeing you I'mhere with you.
Okay.

James (42:55):
Is this someone that you're telling what you need?

Keshia (42:58):
For what?
Well, why would I tell you whatI need?
Like we've already explained.
Okay.
I'm this is where I am rightnow.
I don't really want nothingbecause of what I got going on.
You're saying the same thing.
You don't really want nothingbecause of what you got going
on.
So why would you allowfeelings, emotions?
Females are emotionalcreatures, so you know we can't

(43:21):
turn it off.
You're gonna have your momentswhere you you're in your
feelings and you're gonna feel atype of way about them.
But that's how when you haveyour heads in the clouds, that's
how you end up getting hurt.
If you keep the main thing, themain thing, and if you keep it
as if you don't see no change inhim, never mind what he tells
you.

(43:41):
If you don't see him changingand you don't see him moving
different behind you after y'allbeen talking for two, three
years, you already know what itis.
He's still in the samesituation that he was in when
y'all first started.
See, but the conversation, theaction is different, so it seems
like there is some type ofthere, there's confusion there.
Am I not, am I not, am I theonly one that's confusing?

(44:02):
Confusion, confusion in thewhole situation as to you saying
that he may say certain things,but he you're seeing different
actions, so you don't know.
No, I'm saying in the two yearsbetween now and time Kaya
graduate, if right we both havesaid neither one of us are in a
relationship right now.
To your point of if you'retalking every day for the next

(44:24):
two, three years, something onboth ends of the fence is gonna
change.
It's not gonna be the same.
We'll be emotional, they'regoing to feel some type of way,
they're gonna, you know, I mean,start caring or whatever, like
he said earlier.
But if you still doing BSstuff, lying and entertaining
other females and not doing whatI need you to do, why would I

(44:46):
take you seriously?
I mean, I understand that part.
And we've been talking for two,three years.
Like, why would I even thankyou?
Why would I even consider youserious?
That's where the waste comesback for me.
It's like you don't even takethis person seriously, but you
just you give it, it's justsomething to do.

Michael (45:10):
So, so every day is not promised.
It's so from what it soundslike is I don't want to be
spending my days being at thehouse while I'm trying to be
focused and being bored andbeing by myself.
I it's like this is my my buddyright now.

KeKe (45:28):
Yeah, perfect way to put it.

Michael (45:31):
We don't see each other no nothing in no way, but this
is my buddy.
And just so happened, we we,you know, dibble and dabble on
the other end, but I meant youcan't be too mad at it.
I mean, to be honest, we can'tsit here and act like this is a
new concept.

Keshia (45:52):
There's so many people that's doing that now.
No, I'm not crazy.
I'm not, I'm totally aware ofit.
I mean, I I believe I've beenin the same situation before,
you know, so I know I'munderstanding that.
Well, I maybe that's why I'msaying, like, why do you want to
keep wasting?
Because I maybe that's how Ifelt in my situation when I did
go.
Waste, like it's a waste.

(46:13):
If I felt like that he washindering me from talking to
other people, or if I had maybesomebody else that really wanted
to be with me and was pursuingme for real, and I'm saying,
well, no, because I don't wantto let him go, then that's when
you're wasting time.
But if you ain't got nobodyelse and you're not trying to
entertain nobody else, what areyou wasting?

Michael (46:36):
Quick, quick question.
Let me let me let me get offthe exit of the expressway real
quick, and let me ask thisslowdown question real quick.
But I I I would like so I gotyou know three ladies here,
right?
What is, you know, what is aproper way that a man is

(46:56):
supposed to pursue a woman?
Because, you know, if theniggas too romantic, the niggas
too soft.
If he comes too aggressive.
Who says that though?

Speaker 00 (47:08):
Yeah, who said that?

Michael (47:09):
Man, plenty of people, man.
Y'all know y'all don't fuckwith the mother.
Man, man, we not even gonnahave to.
What's that conversation?
Yeah, who like Yeah no y'alldon't fuck with the squares.
Y'all know y'all don't fuckwith square.
What is a square?
All right, I don't sorry, Idon't want to call y'all
squares.
But what I'm saying is, like,the guys that's not the exciting
guy, the guy that's not, youknow, selling dope.

(47:31):
Let me ask you the guys that'snot I'm gonna be able to do
that.

Keshia (47:33):
But who said they're not exciting and and who said, how
you put a whole general blanketstatement on just baby dealers
and people who who trying tomake rap music?
First and foremost, I'm 40years old.
If you're still in the studio,we got a problem.
You know what I'm saying.
That's first and foremost.

Michael (47:50):
Yeah, most most all right.
So you know what, and and andlet's say this too.
Yes, you're right.
As time goes, as time goes andpeople get older, yeah, you
start to change, you know, howyou feel about certain things.
And even then, it's not aguarantee.

Speaker 06 (48:08):
What you mean?

Michael (48:09):
Is is is so like you this guy might not be exciting,
but he has a very good job andhe's willing to spoil the shit
out of you.

Keshia (48:23):
But spoiling you may not be important to a female.
I'm stuck on the part where whosaid he's not exciting?
Him.
Right.
Who who said that?

Michael (48:31):
What I'm saying is you you hear this all the time.
Y'all act like y'all don't hearthis.
But you gotta am I am Iconfused?
Because we we hear this talk.

Keshia (48:41):
That's social media talk.
No, that's not real life talk.

Michael (48:45):
Social media talk is real talk.

James (48:47):
That is not that is social media talk, and then it
turns into women talk.

unknown (48:53):
Thank you.

Keshia (48:53):
You cannot make a blanket statement like that.
Not all women, no, not allwomen feel like that.
Because why is this guy notexciting?
Why is he not being doing?
Why is he not?

Speaker 00 (49:03):
Stop it.

Keshia (49:04):
No, stop it.
You not make a say, I need anigga to do for me, I need a
nigga to spoil me, I need a guy.

Michael (49:17):
No one said that.

Keshia (49:19):
He just said that.

Michael (49:20):
I you're not going for the good guy.
You're not going for the Iwanna come home and just sit in
front of the TV reading my news.
Yeah, why I am now?

Keshia (49:31):
Yeah.
Now when have you ever known meto want a hood rat?
Well now I retract.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,wait.
I retract my okay, right.
I retract it.
She's laughing.
However, comma.
You can be a retired hood rat.
You don't need to still be nohood rat.

Michael (49:52):
You could be a reform hood rat.

Keshia (49:54):
Yeah, you can be a reform hood rat.

Michael (49:57):
What did you do back in the day?

KeKe (49:59):
Right.

Michael (50:00):
Kidnapping.
That's it.
It was just a misunderstanding.
Okay.
You retired?
Oh my God.

Keshia (50:08):
He's reformed.
You take an extreme.
You going extreme, but I'm justsaying though.

Michael (50:15):
It's like I see a lot of, I see a lot of the good guys
out here struggling.
Struggling trying to findsomebody good and try to find
somebody that could, you know,be his helpmate and all this
other good stuff.
But if you say you know a lot.
Those are the guys that behappening to be in the strip

(50:37):
club, those are the guys thatgot.
No.

Keshia (50:40):
Why you gotta do all that?
No, I don't you lackconfidence.

unknown (50:44):
Why ain't I come up with the good?

Keshia (50:47):
That's what I'm trying to ask.
Like, if you know a lot of guysthat's like that, and you know
a lot of good females.

Michael (50:53):
I'm just trying to play matchmaker.

Keshia (50:55):
And then on top of that, you keep saying math ain't
mathing.
Math ain't mathing.

Michael (51:00):
The math ain't mathing.

unknown (51:02):
Nah.

Keshia (51:02):
Man, we sit all right.
Math ain't mathing.

Michael (51:04):
Man, it's not.
So y'all telling me, so allright.
Seven, come back, please.

James (51:12):
God damn it.

Speaker 07 (51:16):
She agreeing with them.

Keshia (51:19):
Because you making a blanket statement that that's
not the case at all.

Seven (51:24):
No, like and I was I was listening because I'm like, what
women, like, like that.

Michael (51:31):
See, there we go.

Keshia (51:36):
Like, like women.
Facebook females, themInstagram models, yeah, them the
females that's going for dudeslike that, but everyday career
women ain't going for nothinglike that.
Yeah, like good women.

Seven (51:51):
Your first question asked you like, how do women like
guys to pursue them?
That depends on the women.
Like, we all like differentthings.
So I feel like that's aconversation.
Like, you ain't gotta be in thestudio selling drugs like that
for practice.

Keshia (52:08):
It's not all.
Especially not for a lifetime.

Seven (52:13):
We don't want no shit like that.
Like, if you if you want toknow what a woman likes as far
as how to pursue her, that's aquestion for that woman.
Every woman is different.
So, for one, it might be, well,show me that I'm a priority in
your life.
Or, you know, I don't know.
It could be a number of things.
So I feel like it's like.

Michael (52:33):
It's just the nigga just gotta be confused.
He's gotta be confused.

Speaker 07 (52:37):
Why is he confused?

Michael (52:38):
He'll because so so you want him to say, so, so how
should I pursue you?

Keshia (52:47):
I mean, you sound I mean, you can ask that.
I mean, right, it sounds likeyou know, it sounds weird, don't
it?

Michael (52:53):
It sounds weird, don't it?

Keshia (52:54):
No, no, it doesn't sound weird.

unknown (52:55):
I don't think it does.

Keshia (52:56):
I think it sounds smart.
What?
I mean, because if what changethe word?
You don't say, right, you don'tgo up to somebody like, how do
I pursue it?
Which is you and RomeoJuliette.

Michael (53:05):
What game should I what what game should I put on her?

Keshia (53:07):
What what kind of no you just be yourself?
No.

Michael (53:10):
What kind of sugar should I put on this shit?

Seven (53:12):
I think I think it's a little more simple than that.
Like you're just having aconversation and you're learning
her.
Like learning you.
It's like, what do you like?
You know, what do you like todo?

Keshia (53:23):
What's the point of dating?

Seven (53:28):
But I think that goes both ways.
Like, I think, you know, whenyou're getting to know somebody,
you want to do the things thatthey like to do, or or you know,
if you find out, well, he likesthis, I want to do more of that
because I like him, you know,like I wanna learn about his
world, whatever.
Like, that's something bothsides do.
But if he's trying to likepursue the woman and you know he

(53:50):
wants to be with her, then he'sgonna find out.
Like, you know, like and it'snot as simple as like what
should I do to pursue you, butit's more of like you observe,
right?

Speaker 07 (54:00):
Yeah, time spent.

James (54:02):
She just mocked your ass.

Michael (54:06):
Pursue you, yeah.

Keshia (54:08):
Nobody asked that.

Michael (54:09):
Like, what?
Right, nobody asked that, butbut look, like Dayton is fucked
up out here because it's it'snot like everybody seems
everybody could speak on it andhave the formula, but shit, the
formula ain't working.

Keshia (54:24):
Ain't nobody got the damn thing.
It's because nobody's movinggenuinely, everybody has
ulterior motives.
It's always about yeah, likenobody's moving genuinely, and I
feel like especially inAtlanta.

James (54:35):
I feel like I feel like social media accentuates that
where everyone feels like theyhave to be something.

KeKe (54:39):
And I feel like people aren't relationships aren't
going well because people holdon to past traumas.

Keshia (54:45):
Agreed, totally agree.

Michael (54:47):
And and these phones have so many secret departments
that everybody thinks they canget away with so much stuff, and
so you know, people be damnnear about to kill each other
over over a damn phone.

Keshia (55:00):
So I have a question.
I was gonna ask my my godsister because they're going
through something.
But, anyways, you know how backin the day when our
grandparents andgreat-grandparents was was going
through their relationships,right?
The culture was the man beatson the woman.
That was the culture back then.

(55:22):
In our generation, you don'thave as much domestic violence.
Now the culture is not sayingthat it's obsolete, you don't
have it as much.
Now the culture is cheating.
Everybody cheats.
To your point.
The cell phones, the socialmedia, like nobody is 100%.

(55:47):
I am with this female, I amwith this male, I am not looking
at somebody else, liking thispicture, jumping this this this
DM, hollering at this person,kikiing at this cheating is the
culture now.
Why?
You're not secure in yourrelationship.

James (56:06):
That plus they're getting attention.
That's just the person.

Keshia (56:10):
Like, why is nobody?

James (56:13):
Like, why?
It's attention.

Keshia (56:15):
That's crazy.
It's crazy.

Michael (56:17):
If you feel secure, if you feel secure in your
relationship, I don't think youwell, I mean, what reason would
you have to you could feelsecure, but your partner might,
yeah, because you'll feel likebecause there's there you can
see people that they have thegreatest relationship, but the

(56:38):
itch of the attention, that thatwork buddy that goes a little
bit too far, that that that thatthat uh bar that you go to on
Tuesday.
That's another that's anotherthing I want to talk about.

Keshia (56:53):
Do you think that that's the individual thing, like that
self-control though?

James (56:57):
What I was gonna say was the work husband thing.
You heard have you heard of it?

Keshia (57:03):
But it goes back to self-control.
Why are you kicking insomebody's face at work knowing
you got somebody at home?

Michael (57:11):
But yeah, it is self-control.
But a lot of people but a lotof people like you gotta really
like I think a lot of cheatingand mess with and go on.

Keshia (57:21):
You just gotta really it's self-control because you
really just gotta ask yourself,like, damn, I really should I
should I do like take the it'sthe time, it's just the time.
Nobody takes the time to say,damn, this ain't right.

unknown (57:36):
No.

Keshia (57:37):
It's just like you you don't have self-control.
You nobody take the time.
And nobody takesaccountability.

KeKe (57:42):
You know damn well, and and I understand what they was
to say in the heat of themoment, temptation, and I get
it, but it's just self-control.

James (57:51):
Yeah, a choice is a choice.
Right.

Keshia (57:52):
Once you make a choice, we're not gonna call it a
mistake.
You knew what the hell you wasdoing.
It was a poor choice.

KeKe (57:57):
And everybody, we human, so what we have weak moments,
but still, like, is that weakmoment, is it worth the is it
worth the shit, the shit comingbehind it?
Right.

Michael (58:08):
A lot of times if you feel like you ain't gonna get
see, that's what the and this issomething that because it's
just like stealing, right?
Somebody that ain't never stolebefore and they still and to
get away with it, you know.
You feel so good.
Right.
And it makes you it makes you belike, you know what?
Well, you know, man, I know Ishouldn't do it, but I start to

(58:34):
be in caught.
So keep doing it.
Right.
And now it's not even becauseyou're lacking nothing in the
house, it's just because it'sconvenience and you can get away
with it.

Keshia (58:45):
But that goes back to how self-control.
It's self-control.
Like, at what point do you saythis is enough?
I am satisfied with what I gotat home.

unknown (58:56):
Right.

Keshia (58:57):
And you are if you are if you are completely satisfied.
I always say to people, if Ihave everything I need in the
house, why go outside?
Exactly.
Right?

James (59:07):
But you still go outside.

Seven (59:10):
I'm not gonna say all, but a lot of dudes, especially
in Atlanta, they are not onewoman.

Keshia (59:17):
There's too many females here.

Speaker 07 (59:19):
There's too many females here.

Michael (59:21):
And even though that the the women count is so damn
high, every woman got like fiveniggas that's sharing the other
nigga with other man.
I don't know.
Y'all always, I it's crazy thatthey always try to make it like
it's the men thing.
That's talking to fivedifferent men and women do it.
Men and do both of them do it.

(59:43):
Let's not let's not sit here.
Let's do it.

Keshia (59:49):
We're not gonna negate the fact that men do it more
than females.

Michael (59:54):
But no, no, no, but there's there's no there's no
statistics that can prove that.
So are They single because fromthe beginning of time, women
can be you always say we'rewe're very good cheaters.
We're very good cheaters.
Love to brag about it.

KeKe (01:00:10):
So they're not single.

Keshia (01:00:11):
Who?
When you said that y'all bothsaid like people be talking to
like five different people.
Are the personal?
No, yeah.
We're not talking about singlepeople.
We're talking about people thatsay relationship.
Because single people, you freeto talk to whoever the hell you
want to talk to.
Talk to 20 different people youwant to.
But when you're in arelationship.

Michael (01:00:28):
But but but going all the way back to what y'all were
just talking about, because Iknow what your your conversation
about, but if you're single,you can talk to whoever you want
to.
But that's why the focus neverends up being on one person.
If you're in a relationship,there's no reason why you should
be conversating with fivepeople.

Keshia (01:00:43):
Exactly.
If you're in a relationship,there's no reason why you would
be conversating.
Why are you going outside?
If somebody is conversating, ifthey're in a relationship and
conversating with five people,they are goddamn bionic.
Because how in the hell do youeven have to do that?
How do you keep up with allthem conversations?

Michael (01:01:01):
It's not that hard if you're a loser.

unknown (01:01:03):
Okay.

Keshia (01:01:04):
What?

Michael (01:01:04):
Yeah.
If you if if you if you if youain't doing shit at work and
you're always texting at work,you're always on the phone at
work.
When you're at home, you'realways on the phone.
Do y'all think that?

KeKe (01:01:19):
So I always say that it's easier.
Do y'all not think that it'seasier to be faithful than to
cheat?
If you're cheating and havingall these people, you have to
entertain all these people.

James (01:01:32):
If you if you're trying it's easier to be faithful if
you care about the person, ifyou love the person.

Keshia (01:01:39):
How James, well, you got to make sure she can't call it
this time of the day.

James (01:01:48):
Wait, wait, wait.
What'd you say?
I didn't say anything.
Yes, you did.
I laughed.
You said something.
No, you said something and youlaughed.
No, I just laughed.

KeKe (01:01:56):
But yeah, how to her point.
You have to put in more work.
Like you have to put in morework to entertain Volta.

James (01:02:06):
You have to put in work to put in more work to cheat.

Keshia (01:02:11):
That's just like, alright.
That's just my own.
Are you guys gonna keepsquawking or are you gonna let
me talk?
Is it easier to keep up withfive people's payroll or more?

James (01:02:22):
Ma'am, that's not answer your question.
So it's it's worth to keep arelationship going is work.

Keshia (01:02:33):
It is, absolutely.
So but is that work yet?

James (01:02:36):
Yes, of course.

Keshia (01:02:37):
Then keeping up with five other people.

James (01:02:38):
But that is no easier or harder.
You could be I'll be honestwith you, haven't had that
situation.
I haven't had five differentwomen that I've been juggling.

KeKe (01:02:47):
Can you imagine?
Even two.
Let's just say you talk to awoman right now.
Imagine five of her comingbehind her.

James (01:02:54):
Nightmare.

KeKe (01:02:56):
Okay.
Or even two.

James (01:02:58):
Every single one of them nightmare.

Keshia (01:03:00):
What about two?
You got one at home and one inthe streets.
Now that's a little bit easier,but point is you still have to
juggle them around each other.
To her point, it is easier.

Michael (01:03:09):
But people do it all.
People do it all day, everyday.
You got you got serial Peter.
It's not impossible.

Keshia (01:03:16):
Yeah, we didn't say it's impossible.

Michael (01:03:17):
It's just there are cereal cheaters.

James (01:03:21):
It's some people who are built for it.

Michael (01:03:22):
That's it.
There's some people who can doit.

James (01:03:24):
Do you that's caving?

Seven (01:03:25):
Somebody, so it's easy for them.
That's caving.
They got somebody in the backpocket all the time.

Michael (01:03:31):
That's just like when I go to the gym, right?
Shout out to the to uh I forgotwhat we call him.
Shout out, not Johnny.
Oh, we call him the predator.
Oh, yeah, and Johnny.
But uh, yeah, we call him thepredator.
But literally, he goes everyday after a different woman in

(01:03:51):
the gym.
He'll go and walk, walk her allthe way to the car, wave at her
trying to get her attention andeverything.
That's a creep.
But there are plenty of peopleout there that just want bodies.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
And I'm and I and but but thisis what I this is exactly
another thing that I'm I'mputting out there though, is

(01:04:15):
men, some men think that theywant bodies just as much as some
women think that they wantbodies.
And it might not be bodies fora sexual reason, it might be
might be bodies for it might bea financial reason.
It might be for uh time, youknow, just to have something to
do when you if this person's notavailable, that person's

(01:04:36):
available.
If that person's not availableand that person's not available,
you got that person.

Keshia (01:04:40):
So when Kay graduate, I might turn into that person.
But see, I might turn into thatperson.
Ain't even going out with you.
Okay, I'm sorry, Katie.

Michael (01:04:49):
But it's it's it's it's very easy to do that type of
stuff in a place like this withuh social media.
You could date on social media,you could date on apps, you
could date by going to all thesebars and app dating?

Keshia (01:05:06):
It ain't for me.
I done tried to do it.
I've never tried, you know.
I have friends that be like,get on a dating app, get on
dating app.
I'm terrified of a dating.
I don't never get past, hey,how you doing?
What you doing?
I haven't even made a profile.
I've done it, I've done itbefore.

Michael (01:05:20):
I can't I can't deny that I haven't done it before.

Keshia (01:05:23):
It's a little scary because it sucks, too.

James (01:05:26):
Online dating sucks so bad.

Keshia (01:05:29):
Why?

James (01:05:29):
Because it it's not organic.

Keshia (01:05:34):
Agreed.
Like if like I would prefer tomeet somebody organically than
online.

James (01:05:40):
Let's say let's say you and I were to match.

Keshia (01:05:42):
Right?

James (01:05:43):
Um, of course you would swipe on me first.
Yeah.
We'd match, and it'd be exactlywhat you said.
What the fuck is that?
Like we've done a podcastbefore, and I don't remember it.

(01:06:04):
But we're doing it now, andlike this is how I talk.
Right.
This is but I can't I can't putthis in text form.
I'm sporadic, I say whateverthe fuck I want, but but it
doesn't come off the same when Iput it in text.
So you would not get, you know.

(01:06:26):
The real true James.

Keshia (01:06:28):
So you can't you can't fall in.

James (01:06:29):
You wouldn't be as turned on as you would by my pictures,
as you would by my text.

Michael (01:06:33):
So you can't fall in love to text.
But but just that not.
It can work.
People can do it.
People can do it.
There's a lot, but especiallyI'm not one of them.
I'm not one of them.
Especially like the new agepeople where like all their
communication is through fuckingtext.
All their communication.

Keshia (01:06:49):
It used to be.
I used to be the text.

Michael (01:06:50):
I I I don't want to, I don't want to text.
Call me.
I try my I try my damnedest toI had just seen your text about.
You are the worst text.
Yeah, everybody tells me that.
Everybody tells me that becausehe's a good thing.

KeKe (01:07:12):
You still ain't responding to my text.

Michael (01:07:14):
Bro, everybody, everybody complains about that.
Look, what you want to complaintoo?
Everybody wants like my mamacomplains.
Everybody, okay, everybody,like even grandma Mary,
everybody complained.
Grandma Mary try to text me.
Now, her because I know shewent all the way out of her way

(01:07:35):
to try to text me.
Like, if I don't text her back,I will at least call say, Hey
grandma, I send you tests.
And I don't, I don't want to, Idon't want to go back and
forth.
Yeah, so let's go ahead andtalk.
What you need?
I'm not good at tests.
So if I was supposed toentertain the female through
text, so I'm a loser.

Keshia (01:07:54):
So what if you meet a female, how I used to be, where
I would prefer and the onlyreason why I was like this is
because I got paid to talk onthe phone for eight hours a day.
So therefore I don't want tocome home and talk for another
eight hours a day.
So I was a texter.
What if you meet a female likethat where for whatever reason
she is a texter and wants towork her way into phone calls,

(01:08:14):
wants to work her way intoFaceTiming?

James (01:08:16):
Well, then I'm doing talk to text.
I go, baby.

Keshia (01:08:21):
That is different.

James (01:08:22):
Guess what, baby?

Keshia (01:08:24):
That's different.
I'm a fail.
That's different.
I'm a fail.

Michael (01:08:28):
Because I don't even want to do that.
I'm a fail.
At least James is trying.
I'm glad.
Like, like, so so something mygrandfather, something my
grandfather told me a long timeago, right?
And they used to bother me, butnow that I'm a grown man and I
do a lot of shit, I understandit.
And he was like, he used toalways say, he said, you know,

(01:08:50):
either you can have me at homeand you don't have what you want
and need, or you let me go outhere and sacrifice myself to
make sure that y'all okay.
And so a lot of times when I beout here in the field, man, I
gotta make all these decisionsand make all these moves.
And I and it like I tell peoplea lot of times, like if

(01:09:12):
somebody called me, just believethat somebody calling me right
behind me.
It's you want me to stop doingwhat I'm doing every five
seconds to entertain theconversation or entertain the
taste.
You didn't text me back, it'sbeen two hours.
Like, nigga, I was I wasworking for two straight hours.

Keshia (01:09:28):
One of my biggest, like, oh my god, the the people who
say, Um, you supposed to call meback and y'all ain't talked in
two days because they waiting onyou to call them back from
Tuesday.
Fucking with me, I won't, wewon't talk.
We won't talk because and Ifeel like true enough, you can't

(01:09:48):
tell somebody how to feel orhow to think, but I think it's
stupid that you done beenwaiting all this time for me to
call you back, but you want totalk to me.
Why you just don't call me?
Why does it matter who maybethat person first or next second
part of that?

James (01:10:03):
Well, hold on.
Some shit that like.
Did you say that you were gonnacall them back?

Keshia (01:10:07):
I might have we might have been on the phone.
Hey, babe, let me call youright back.
That's not what I asked.
But people say that now.
I'm saying, let me call youright back to the board in the
store.

James (01:10:14):
Did you say that you were gonna call the stuff?
But it was just a saying, notlike I was really gonna call you
back.
More literal than you say thatyou're gonna call someone back.

KeKe (01:10:22):
Hey, babe, I'm gonna talk to you later, okay?

James (01:10:24):
I'm not gonna bother someone if they tell me they're
gonna call me back.

Keshia (01:10:28):
But it are you so so your significant other says, All
right, babe, I'm gonna call youback in a little bit.
It's been a little bit.
Well, it's been a little bitmore.
Or just someone that you talkto.
This is the person that you'retrying to entertain, you're
dating.
I'm gonna call you back in alittle bit.
So what if a little bit, whatif a little bit has gone by?

Michael (01:10:50):
It all depends, man.
Because like, let's say if ifthis is normal.

Keshia (01:10:55):
What's normal?
What you mean?

Michael (01:10:56):
Like, if we we're always doing the back and forth,
like, all right, I'll call youback and and we don't ever call
back.
Or I it just don't, you don'tcall back, or I'll call you the
next day, or I just know thatit's faded.
But sometimes, some, butsometimes, sometimes I can get
that because a person will waitand see if you really gonna call

(01:11:18):
them back to see like if I ifam I really a problem?

KeKe (01:11:22):
Why do people do that?
Don't do that.

Michael (01:11:24):
Why do people do that sometimes?
Don't do that.

Keshia (01:11:26):
Why do people do that?
Don't do that.
But but sometimes I was waitingto see if you was gonna call me
back.
What the hell for?
Well, I say this.

Michael (01:11:35):
Alright, so he that person supposed, like, let's say
if you you do that shit all thetime and that person's off.
After a while, you don't feellike that person is is basically
like like desperately reachingout, like especially.

Keshia (01:11:48):
Do you know some people can have a trauma response?
I know someone that becausethey were a side chick for two
years, did not know it, and wasgroomed to be the side chick,
realized that okay, they didn'tproactively call the person,
they just let the person andlike it just happened.

(01:12:09):
They just let the person callthem when they called, it was
always at the wrong time.
But you didn't know that.
You just thought, oh, thatperson was busy.
So now, as a trauma response,no, I'll let you call me and
I'll return your call or I'llreturn your text message, but I
won't proactively call youbecause I still have PTSD from

(01:12:29):
something from my past.
Don't be bringing that pastshit over here.

Michael (01:12:32):
Do you really?
Is it really is it really pastor focused on on the present?
Because it is is all right it'sfocused on fear of what could
happen.
But it's not like it may noteven be there.
It may just be like that.
But what if that's really whatit's just like it's just like
like if you get if if you getfucking shocked by sticking a

(01:12:53):
fork in the electrical socket,like you know that there's
certain things that you dothat's gonna cause a reaction to
what you do.

James (01:13:04):
But if you stick a fork into the socket, you're gonna
get shocked and you go, Oh boy,I better not do that again.
And you won't be able to dothat.
So that's but that's traumaresponse.
Okay.
So I see what I see what she'ssaying in that sense.

Keshia (01:13:18):
Some people go through trauma responses like that,
where you've groomed me to,okay, I know I can't call it
this time.
And it may be somethinginnocent.
I for real was busy.
So I for real was sleep, right?
If a person has no time foryou, how long do you hold you
going into something totallydifferent?

Michael (01:13:33):
No, no, no.
What I'm saying is what I'msaying is if a person, if a
person is always saying, I'llcall you back, I'll call you
back, and they never call youback, after a while, that means
that they ain't got no time foryou.

KeKe (01:13:45):
Okay, I know somebody like that right there.
I know somebody like that rightnow, and then she always be
like, I'm gonna call you rightback, and I know damn well she's
not gonna call me right back.

Michael (01:13:54):
That's just how she's gonna be.
What I'm saying is what shesays if it it never if it's
never that.
Now, of course, once or twice,or if it's just both of y'all
doing it, but if the person isliterally why you're but that's
with intent.

Keshia (01:14:07):
I'm saying I'm gonna call you back just to get you
off the phone and then don'tcall you back and then ignore
you for some days, that'sdifferent.
Versus her example, that's justI got a friend right now, and
yeah, those are two differentthings.
You get on the phone with her,and the minute the conversation
dead or whatever, I'm gonna callyou right back, okay?
No, she's not gonna call.
I already know she's not right.

James (01:14:28):
Well, let me stop you right there.
You said the minute theconversation's dead.
Well, yeah, I don't want tohang up too.

KeKe (01:14:35):
Some people just say it just to say it.
Well, let me just leave that outbecause if it's just something
she just says, it doesn't matterwhat is happening.
If she wants to get off thephone, that is what she's
saying.

Keshia (01:14:46):
I'm gonna call you back.
Yeah, some people just have tobe saying it.
We everyone knows her and knowswhen she's she ain't gonna call
back.
So it really you you that'ssomething that you can't
control.

James (01:14:59):
But then if it's the person, but then when you're
dating someone that does notknow, I think I'm kinda that
does not know you, and you do.
But I kind of like the yeah, Ilike the yeah, yeah, yeah.

KeKe (01:15:11):
And they do not know you.

James (01:15:13):
Yeah, I think I like it.

Keshia (01:15:14):
So so let's just say, okay, they couldn't come up to
it.
Girl is like this.

KeKe (01:15:18):
But if you don't know that, yeah.
But you just start dating her,right?
You don't know that she's likethat.
So you're taking it as, oh, shedon't really got time for me,
or she don't like me, or shedon't think she's like, and that
may not really be.

Keshia (01:15:32):
Now, what I have experienced in my current
situation, because again, I wasone of those.
I ain't calling you, you callme.
He's a type, okay, I'll callyou back.
And he calls back.
If the shoe is on the otherfoot, if I say I'm going to call
back, he's gonna expect me tocall him back.
He will send a text and say,Hey, I thought you said you was
calling me back.

(01:15:52):
I thought you said you wasgonna text me back.
I got he's one of them.
Not everybody's like I likethat about him, but not
everybody's like that.
So that's when you say thatbecause I don't like that.
You don't?
No, yeah, I like that.
Like, okay, let me say this.
Just a little bit.
If you text and say, Hey, Ithought you was gonna call me
back, that's cool.
But then you got those peoplethat say three days later, well,

(01:16:16):
you know, on Tuesday you saidon Tuesday you said you was
gonna call me back.
Here it is, Thursday,goddammit.
I don't want to hear that fromthe case.

KeKe (01:16:26):
See him.

Keshia (01:16:28):
Right.
I don't want to hear that jokeout of it and be like, do what
you said you was gonna do.
Like hit his premise for it isdo what you said you was gonna
do.
I understand.
Call me back.
Okay, hang up.
I'm gonna hang up on you.
Call me back, right back,because you said you were gonna
call me back.
So he make a joke out of it,but I get it.
But don't be sitting over thereon Tuesday all the way till

(01:16:49):
Thursday and Friday because Isaid I was gonna call you back
on Tuesday.
You wait no more.
That's just dumb.

KeKe (01:16:54):
Because now we ain't talking three days, regardless.
I now could be busy.
No, or I could be dead in thedick, or I just don't want to
talk to you.
Why do you need to call me?

James (01:17:05):
I fumbled bad.
I fumbled bad.
Uh I had me a good one, and Iwaited a week.

Keshia (01:17:14):
A week, Jay?
A week?
That's a third one, bro.
You no call, no show.
Your ass fired.
A week.

James (01:17:20):
You can't do no ass is fire, man.
They took me right out of thestate.

Keshia (01:17:25):
Like you, you on purpose did a week, or you just life
happened and you forgot.

James (01:17:28):
Life happened.
No, I didn't forget.
I was just, I just, I was like,I I don't want to talk to this
person.

Keshia (01:17:33):
Okay, now that is true.
Now I'm I am that person.
I I will go two, three days notbe like talking to nobody.
Yeah.
I'm moody.
I've been like that.
I am definitely moody likethat.
So this I got this new cultureof I got to talk to you every
day.
The fuck for what?
What are we talking every dayfor?
So for me, I don't have the.

James (01:17:52):
Because I'm not a person.
Some type of people.

KeKe (01:17:55):
It needs to be some type of communication.

James (01:17:58):
Some type of now I'll throw it right to her.

Keshia (01:18:01):
The people that piss me off is do not come at me saying
I ain't heard from you all day.
If we've been fucking sendingreels on Instagram since two
o'clock, that's interaction.
It's interaction.
It's interaction.
So don't say, damn, I ain'theard from yes, you did.
Because I sent you that littleboy on Instagram and you laughed
at me.
That's interaction.

Michael (01:18:21):
Agreed.
I sent you an uh emoji.

Keshia (01:18:26):
That's interaction.
That's an interaction, my boy.
You can't say you ain't heardfrom me.
It was some kind ofinteraction.
If you the type that need tohave interaction every day.
You react.
That's interaction.
So you the type, Mike, that yougotta talk to your partner
every day?
A person you're entertainingevery day?
Your partner, you better thencall my phone every day.

James (01:18:49):
Nah.
Mike loves talking.
You gotta talk every day.

Speaker 07 (01:18:52):
I don't know.
Well, he's talking live.
Let me tell you something.
You don't have to talk around.

Speaker 09 (01:18:58):
When we say talk every day, I'm not saying that
we have to sit on the phonearound.
Yeah, yeah, we're having fun.

KeKe (01:19:04):
But what I'm saying is include me in your everyday.
Whether we good morning, weexchanging a good morning.
I don't like good morning text,girl.

Keshia (01:19:12):
You don't like good morning text.
I love a good morning text,girl.
Why?
Okay, so let me ask you this.
How do you know that you're notjust in rotation?
Are you not doing something outof having that ain't on my
mind?
Yeah, don't give me no.
If I'm in rotation, listen.

Michael (01:19:26):
Now, if I especially they can hear what you have to
say, they gotta copy and paste.

Speaker 07 (01:19:30):
Yeah, like no.
Take me out of rotation.
Why do y'all know what I mean?

Michael (01:19:33):
Good morning, Queen.
Good morning, handsome girl.
If somebody sent me a goodmorning text, if somebody don't
do that.

KeKe (01:19:41):
If somebody sent me a good morning text, that is not my
first line of thought.

Keshia (01:19:45):
Oh, I guess he copied and pasted me too.

James (01:19:47):
No one's saying it's your first line of thought, but it's
out there.

Keshia (01:19:52):
It happens.
It's out there.

James (01:19:53):
It's not you.
No one's saying it's you.
But it happens.
So why don't you think likethat?

Keshia (01:20:01):
I just don't think like that.

Speaker 09 (01:20:02):
Why don't you think that?

Keshia (01:20:04):
I don't think like that.
Especially if you just saidthat you talked to multiple
people like you did multiplepeople.
No, I don't.
Why don't you think that's agood one?
If I get a good money text inmy mind, I don't think.
I'm an overthinker.
I didn't think that he texts 10different bitches before it got
to my phone.
That is not what I thought inmy mind.

KeKe (01:20:24):
Maybe I'm, I don't know.

Keshia (01:20:26):
That's good that you're not like that.
That is very good that you'renot like that.

KeKe (01:20:29):
I'm not like, oh, did you text Rhonda, nigga?
I ain't gonna break it up, butin my head I'm thinking.

Michael (01:20:35):
I thought I'm gonna be googling.
I know your routine right ateight o'clock and you see that
same text.

Keshia (01:20:45):
No.
I know your routine right now.
That's no.
I don't sleep like that.
And I don't like him to ask mehow'd you sleep.

Michael (01:20:53):
Grand Rise.

Keshia (01:20:54):
You need to ask me how I slept.
Because if I slept wrong, youneed to know to come correct
today, motherfucker.
That's what he said.
He was like, the reason how didI sleep because it lets me know
what kind of day you're gonnahave.
No, the fucking thing.
Yes, it does.
Yes, it does.
Because guess what?

KeKe (01:21:08):
If I ain't sleep, uh I ain't sleep too good, my neck
hurt, okay.
What can I do?

Keshia (01:21:14):
I don't know.
I like stuff like that.
I don't know.
Don't ask.
Because everybody, when youmeet somebody new, those are the
first two questions.
Good morning, beautiful.
Good morning, good morning.
That's in rotation.
So you get that.
Because the minute that onemorning that you don't send it,
I'ma think, oh, you dead in aditch somewhere.
By the hell you ain't send mygood morning taste as much.
That's the blah blah blah.

James (01:21:34):
The good morning text and that's the blah blah blah.

Michael (01:21:37):
Just to say, hey, I just want to let you know I'm on
your mind.
You're on my mind.
Still here, yeah.

Keshia (01:21:42):
Are you thinking of the nine other people you talking
about?

Michael (01:21:44):
I'm just saying you're on my mind.

KeKe (01:21:45):
See, I don't think like that.
Because you like the minute youdon't text me good morning, I
guess you texting somebody elsegood morning.
I ain't think like that.
Like, damn, maybe you just hada busy ass morning.

Michael (01:21:54):
Or he just didn't get time in his day to, you know,
start his rotation.

Keshia (01:21:58):
I don't like that.
I don't like that.
Nope.
Uh-uh.

Michael (01:22:02):
Nah, I don't, I'm, I'm just being devil's advocate
right now.
I'm not saying either or, but Ibut but to her point, it is out
there.

Keshia (01:22:11):
Ah it's in rotation.
I want you to say good morningto me because it's genuine.

Michael (01:22:15):
You genuinely don't say good morning to me.

KeKe (01:22:17):
So how do you so how do you know if it's genuine or not
through a text message?

Keshia (01:22:20):
So you just gonna automatically assume that it's
not be different.
Be different.
Do a FaceTime or do a phonecall or one of our cousins.
Just be different.

Michael (01:22:27):
One of our c one of our cousins, board cousins?
Yeah, one of our cousins isliterally has a section for like
when he's like talking tofemales on um messenger.
Uh not on messenger, but likelike dating, any dating, like
Facebook dating and whatever.
Copy and pasting.
He literally has notes.

(01:22:49):
Hell yeah.
Like on conversations?
Yeah.
So like it's like the opener,you know, when they said, when
they say, when they say like,what do you do?
He has that.
Fuck me.
Like lit like yeah, literally.
And like lit no.
So yeah, yeah, there we go.
Yeah, there we go.
He got a script.

KeKe (01:23:10):
He got a script.

Michael (01:23:11):
But for every for everything, so he don't have to
write nothing.
He was like, man, I sent somuch stuff, man.
I'm I don't want to send that.
I said, Yeah, that's a smartidea, but bro, like, like, do
you get caught up in, you know,like how you keep up with these
conversations?
That goes back to how you cando that.

KeKe (01:23:26):
How do you keep up with these conversations?
And at what point do you giveyour, I guess, authentic self?
Because why?
That's my issue.

Keshia (01:23:35):
It's just like it's a program.
Like, oh, that is my issue.

KeKe (01:23:38):
What do I do?
Let me copy and paste.
What do I copy?
Do you ever give some?
Do you really ever sit andwrite it out?

Keshia (01:23:45):
Like, I'm I'm afraid for his wedding vows.
Like, seriously, in Atlanta,you just copy a person.

KeKe (01:23:52):
That's what he's gonna do.

Michael (01:23:53):
Chat GPT to do your wedding vows.

Seven (01:23:56):
That's easy.
But you know what?
That sounds like a serial data,like somebody that can't really
be by herself.
You know what I'm saying?
They always gotta havesomebody, or it's like, I don't
know, that's how I think anyway.
Like, if I met a dude and Ifound out that he was doing
that, like that's such a redflag to me.

Speaker 07 (01:24:16):
Like, a big red flag.

Seven (01:24:19):
Yeah, like, bruh, like what are you doing?
Like, can you and and then it'slike you're such a serial dater
that I I would kind of feellike you couldn't just be with
one woman.
Like, I wouldn't be with onewoman and what are you looking
for as a serial dater?

KeKe (01:24:34):
Yeah, what is that?
Or a serial dater doesn't giveme the impression that they're
wanting to settle down and bewith one another.

James (01:24:40):
As a serial dater, you're looking for pussy.
That's all that is, or penis.

Michael (01:24:46):
Yeah, because there's women's serial daters too.

Keshia (01:24:49):
Sounds like you're looking for something because
you're not looking for arelationship as a serial dater.
No, you're just looking forsomething to do for that moment.

Seven (01:24:57):
Yeah, like you're you're just dating like like all these
people, like Monday you got thisperson, Tuesday you got that
person, like every day you got adifferent person that you're
going out with.
Um, or you know, you got thatlineup, you got that roster, but
you keep a roster, like youdon't never not have a roster.

Michael (01:25:15):
That's crazy, but it's very easy in these cities.
In this city, it is very easy.

Seven (01:25:21):
Yeah, Atlanta is a is a wild place.

Michael (01:25:24):
A wild place.
Been um been in you were inMableton one month, three months
later, you in Lawrenceville.
Nigga, that chick is not gonnameet Mableton, you know.

Keshia (01:25:37):
Yeah, like you for real, Atlanta is so big but so small
at the same time.
You legit can have a family inAtlanta and the metro areas.

Michael (01:25:46):
It's it's crazy that it the Atlanta's it Atlanta's
small but big.
With with all the stuff that isgoing on and all the people
that are here.
But it's crazy that you alwaysbump into old motherfuckers.
I hate always bumping into likeanybody that I used to talk to,

(01:26:09):
used to have an interest in.

KeKe (01:26:11):
Oh my god! Like you see that folks go around, don't tell
nobody you dated me.
We did not date, that did nothappen.
Right.

Michael (01:26:19):
Like, let's just forget that.
Man, I so so I I don't know ify'all ever had this right.
So I know when I was dating asa youth and and and seeing like
certain people as a youth, and Iwas like, damn, man, I know
they're gonna be bad when theyget older.
Oh man, da da da da.
And so I'm in my 40s, and I seesome of the ones that I went to

(01:26:44):
school with.
And I'm like, ooh, Dodge thebullet there.

Keshia (01:26:48):
I see a lot of people I went to school with, they look
crazy.
You know what I always say?
People look crazy because theirparents don't take care of them
no more.
That is that is true.
That is true.
You out here on your own.

Michael (01:27:02):
Yeah.

Keshia (01:27:03):
You're on your own.
So that's what that is.
You on your own, and that'swhat that is.

Michael (01:27:07):
And and and when, you know, the ones that that that
that had that natural, naturalbody structure.
If you don't keep that thing upas you get older, no matter how
you think you look, it ain'tgonna last forever.
And boy, I learned that, Ilearned that the hard way for

(01:27:28):
myself, but I wake up six monthspregnant every day.

Speaker 07 (01:27:32):
Oh my god.

Michael (01:27:33):
I wake up six months pregnant every day.
But I just think that, youknow, as long as as long as the
the pool is like it is, it'salways gonna be confusion.
It's always gonna be confusion.

Keshia (01:27:51):
It's definitely gonna always be confusion.

Michael (01:27:55):
And I believe that once, you know, even you know,
they say that uh you pass upwhat God gives you at least five
times in your life.
So I'm sure in Atlanta, youprobably done pass that person.
I I know, I know I I I think II have early, you know, uh one

(01:28:20):
time, no, I I'm not gonna saythat really.
But no, it wasn't, but I had anopportunity when I was younger,
this this uh female was goinginto the military, and all she
kept telling me is how much shewanted to take care of me.
And and she wanted all shewanted for me was, you know, for

(01:28:43):
me to have, you know, a kidwith her and all this other
stuff.
And I just couldn't do it.

KeKe (01:28:50):
And you wasn't ready?

Michael (01:28:52):
Huh?

KeKe (01:28:52):
Maybe you wasn't ready?

Michael (01:28:53):
No, I just didn't want her.

KeKe (01:28:55):
Oh shit.
Dang.
Wow.
Sorry.

Michael (01:28:59):
I mean, it just, you know, it wasn't my cup of tea,
you know.
And I'm not I'm not sure.

Keshia (01:29:05):
I mean, it just wasn't your cup of tea.
There's nothing wrong withthat.

Michael (01:29:07):
Yeah, yeah, but but but that's why I didn't want to
string her along.
You know, that's why I didn'twant to, even though that she
would have taken care of me anddone all that stuff.

KeKe (01:29:18):
See, and you're what of what percent of guys?
Because most guys, they'll takethat and they'll keep and
they'll string it along, knowingdamn well they don't want it.
Because guess what?
You're being taken care of, youhave everything you need.

Michael (01:29:39):
The thing that I would want from a woman has nothing to
do with like somebody takingcare of me.
It's more just likecompanionship because I can do
for myself in every aspect.
So I I am, I I can't comparemyself to a lot of guys out
here.
Um, I know how to cook formyself.

(01:30:02):
I know how to, you know, build.
I know how to work on my owncar.
I know how to, if I need to,cut my own fucking hair.
If I need to, I could, youknow, like I don't have somebody
where I, you know, ah man, Ican't wait to get home.
A baby cook me a nice warmmeal.
Like, it's cool.
I'm happy about that.
And uh the thing, you know, Idon't know where I was going

(01:30:26):
with this, but uh I startedthinking about my drink.
My bad.

Seven (01:30:34):
But thinking about my drink.

Keshia (01:30:40):
What was the original question?

Michael (01:30:41):
I mean just I guess I was just speaking on um, you
know, uh letting letting goodones pass you off.

Keshia (01:30:52):
Because if you ain't ready for it, you ain't ready
for it.
Like you you can't there'snothing that the female can do
to make you ready for it.
Like, it is what it is.

James (01:31:01):
I agree.

Keshia (01:31:03):
Where females end up getting hurt is you think you
can change a man.
You cannot change a man.

Michael (01:31:10):
It's the same with a nigga.
A nigga trying to turn a wholewith you know that old saying
turn a whole into a wife.
But I'm just saying, change,I'm just saying change a person,
period.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just change a person,period.
Everybody wants somebody tofit.
Like sometimes you think thatif you're with somebody long
enough that you can mold theminto who or what you want them

(01:31:32):
to be.

KeKe (01:31:33):
But no matter what, you could mold and but but isn't
that how it was back in the day?

Michael (01:31:41):
Not really.
More so back in the day, weneeded each other.

Keshia (01:31:44):
Now we don't that's part of the we do not need each
other.
I don't need a man.
You don't need a female.
That's quick.

Michael (01:31:50):
They quit to say that nah.

Keshia (01:31:52):
That's not a dude to say I don't need a female.
You ain't never felt like youneed to.
I ain't never felt like I don'tneed a female.
What do you think you need?
What do you feel that you needa man for?
Shit.
Everything.
Such as everything.

KeKe (01:32:04):
I can do, I can go work, I pay my own bills, live in my
house on my own, get my grasscut, and do every goddamn thing
I want to on my own.
Yes, I can.
Even fuck myself on my own.
However, I don't want to.
That's what I need a man for.

Keshia (01:32:20):
Because I don't want to.
That's a good way to put it.
I don't want to.
I don't want to cut the grass.
That's what I'm cut in thetrash out.

KeKe (01:32:27):
I don't have to get up and think every goddamn day.
I need my person, my man, to beat take on what I don't want to
do to that.
I don't know.
That's why I need a man.

James (01:32:37):
No, that's what I'm not only is that the best way to put
it, that's the only way to putit.
That's what I'm saying.
That's just what it is.

Keshia (01:32:43):
You just learned me something.

James (01:32:45):
What it used to be is women were the caretakers of the
they were homemakers.

Keshia (01:32:51):
But that's not anything.
And that's not anymore.

James (01:32:53):
And that's not but Mike just said that.

Michael (01:32:55):
I didn't say it wasn't needed anymore.
I never said that.
He can do it, but it's notthere then.

Keshia (01:33:02):
You don't.

Michael (01:33:03):
A woman, a woman don't a woman don't need a man for the
same reasons as back in theday.
A man don't need a woman forthe reasons for the whole thing.

Keshia (01:33:12):
So why do we need each other?

Michael (01:33:14):
For the things that she said, for when you choose to
want that person, when youchoose to need it.
When you choose to.
Like back in the day, like hesaid, you are a homemaker
because you couldn't get a job.
You needed to be a job.
It's the same thing now.

James (01:33:31):
It's a good thing.
No, no, no.
We're talking about the seriousstuff where you couldn't vote,
you couldn't get a job, get yourown bank account.

Keshia (01:33:37):
Like women needed men.
Now it's not like that.
Let me ask you this.
Women don't need men.
That is so sad to say.
But if we if for those if youhad the choice, if you do for a
bank, not to bank in my own bankaccount.

James (01:33:52):
But you don't want that.

Keshia (01:33:53):
Who the hell?

James (01:33:54):
Wait, but she don't want that.
You say you don't need a man.

Keshia (01:33:59):
No, but what Mike is saying from back in the day,
women literally could not getbank accounts in their name.
Men were the only ones thatcould get bank.
So that's why a lot of womenstayed with men because
financial purposes, I can't geta job.
I cannot get a job.
My job is to be home with thekids, wash, do laundry, and all
this bullshit.
I can't.

(01:34:20):
That was the culture.
If you had to no longer likethat, if you had the choice
right now today, would you goback to that?
Me?
If you have the choice rightnow today.
Hell no.
Would you go back to that?
Hell no.

KeKe (01:34:32):
Because you know, at one point in time they say the men
work only and women don't.
You're homemakers.
So you wouldn't be a homemaker.

Michael (01:34:39):
But that's the but that's the thing, though.
They want a lot of a lot of alot of a lot of females want
their cake and eat it too now.
But you mean because they theywant the man to pay all the
bills, but they don't, but theydon't want to be the homemaker.

Speaker 09 (01:34:53):
I don't ever want to be never given.

Keshia (01:34:59):
All the bills for me.

James (01:35:00):
Yes, you would.
Yes, you would.
You would do it in a heartbeat.

Keshia (01:35:03):
And Mike can attest to this.
Come on.
The type of female I am.
No, I won't even let you payrent or mortgage.
I need to be paying something.
Because the minute that youcome out your mouth and say, Oh,
you can get out, we got aproblem.
Okay, so check this out.
Yeah, no, she might have had aproblem.
So let me say this.

KeKe (01:35:19):
I don't mind paying bills.
I've always worked.
I'm no stranger to work.
I don't mind paying bills, andI don't believe in running my
man dry.

Keshia (01:35:27):
However, I ain't paying no mortgage.
I am.
I'm gonna pay something on themortgage.
I ain't.
I am.
Yeah.
I ain't doing it.
And that's just it's pasttraumas because you karma.
No, no, it's you.
Because of karma, I done haddudes live with me and I done
said you can get out.
I will never put a man in aposition to say that to me.
Wrong answer.

(01:35:48):
Now let me say this.
I'm coming from somebody from ahousehold where this is how I
was raised, though.
So my mom, she paid bills inthe house, yeah.
But not more.
So let me ask you this.
Your parents, they're stilltogether?
No.
Did you were you raised in atwo-parent household?
Up until eighth grade.

(01:36:10):
And the reason I asked, mostpeople who were raised in a
two-parent household view lifedifferently.
I have both sides.
Yeah, they view lifedifferently.
I have both sides.
It cut literally, I would say,at an equal point.
That makes sense.

KeKe (01:36:26):
I I so that's why I say, like being in the house with my
mother and father, they didn'trun each other dry.
They it worked for them.
One thing I've never heard themor seen them ever do is argue
over a finance.
Who will pay what or what needsto do this or that?
I've never heard that a day inmy life as you know growing up.

James (01:36:46):
So your dad would always take care of it.

KeKe (01:36:48):
So in my mind, my dad led, but I do know that my mom
helped.
Right.
She paid.
She did her part.
She did her part.
So in my mind, you know, she'scertainly where, you know, I I
come from two shit, independent,hustling ass parents.
So, and I didn't even get that.
I don't have that bone in mybody to, you know, I just

(01:37:11):
learned this from circumstancebeing with my mom and dad, and
also me growing up and getting apiece up outside and knowing
and realizing in my mind, like,shit, I don't want to do this.
Especially not by my damn self.

Keshia (01:37:25):
So that's why I'm like, I've I've always been on the
fence.
Like, I don't, I I ain't neversay I don't need no man.
I need a man.
And see the difference is inour family, we come from
independent people that wedidn't come from a two-parent
household.
We came from the daddy did itby itself.
The mama did it by what ours isthe mama did it by herself.

KeKe (01:37:44):
Then remember, I told you I got the split.
Right.
You can attest to this.
My mom don't need shit.
What she needs a man for toread some shit to help her
understand some shit.
Right.
She don't need them for shit.
Right.

Keshia (01:37:57):
But that's I don't feel like that.

Speaker 04 (01:37:59):
That's my taste.

Keshia (01:38:00):
In our situation, our family took it to the toxic
level.
I damn sure don't need a man.
I ain't gotta do nothing butstay black and die.
And fuck the horse that yourode in on.
And we're trying to changethat.

Michael (01:38:12):
But but that's the that I think that's the blessing of
my my mom's mom and dad.

Speaker 09 (01:38:17):
Yeah.

Michael (01:38:18):
Like living, living, and I like I always tell my mom,
I don't know how they wereyoung, but I got them when they
were older, settled, they werewise.

KeKe (01:38:29):
So you kind of got both sides of it.

Michael (01:38:31):
So I did.
So I always call grandma Marymy gangster grandmama, right?
And I call I call my my othergrandmother, my emotional
grandmother.
I get a little bit more.
That's really what it is, yeah.
I get I I I got to see what itwas like for a soft woman to be
soft to her man and he come homeand he's running the house, but

(01:38:55):
he could be the most rah-rahrah.
But when it came down to her,he was soft as a pillow cushion.
But then he'll turn that shitright back up when he looks back
at us.
And we'll be like, but whatkind of thing?

Keshia (01:39:10):
But they don't make people like that anymore.

Michael (01:39:12):
My grandmama, my grandmama asked, my grandmama
said that she wanted a bathroomand her bedroom.
And he built a whole sectiononto the house and built her a
bathroom.

Keshia (01:39:25):
Yeah, they don't make people like that anymore.

Michael (01:39:27):
So I got to see that, but then I also got reality
check from my other side.

Speaker 00 (01:39:33):
Yeah.

Michael (01:39:34):
So she's like, you know, don't believe everybody
for what they say.
Yeah, you over here looking atthis fairy tale shit, but also
no, it's it's dark out here.

Speaker 07 (01:39:43):
Yeah, yeah.

Michael (01:39:45):
And so, and so me chasing, I I I tend, I well, I
used to tend to, I used to tendto chase the fairy tale.
The fairy tale.
But I'm getting comfortablewith the dark side.

Keshia (01:40:01):
Listen, I I still have the fairy tale in the back of my
mind.
I have not given up.
I still want my fairy tale, Istill believe in it.
However, comma, now that I'molder, a lot of stuff that my
grandma dealt with, her demons,I understand them.
So for me, I feel like I mightso for me, I feel like I've

(01:40:23):
dealt with some of the dark sidealready.
And I don't want that.

KeKe (01:40:27):
What you had to deal with, you know, you know, you think
you want a certain thing untilyou actually get it, right?
Right.
And I don't want that.
Like, so I've done, I've seenit and I've done it.
It's just like, uh, yeah.

Keshia (01:40:40):
This is this is all right.

James (01:40:42):
That's I'm if you're talking, if you're talking about
the dark side like that, whereyou go, I I just don't think
it's for me.
You haven't you haven't feltthe dark side yet.

Keshia (01:40:52):
Oh no, no, no.
I don't dude, I don't willdestroy you.
I'm not on the fence about it.
I know that I don't want it.

James (01:40:57):
It will fuck up your entire thing.
I know it will destroy you.

Keshia (01:41:00):
That's where I'm at with it.
That's that's exactly where I'mat with it.

James (01:41:03):
And then like to where you can't hatred.
You have to feel hatred for alittle while before you come to
the other side.
I'm trying to get to the otherside.
I drew I I have so much lovefor you.

KeKe (01:41:16):
Why does it have to be hatred though?
Why could it not just be hurt?

James (01:41:19):
It has to be hatred.
It has to be hatred.
There's no question.
No, because you haven't felt ityet.

Keshia (01:41:24):
Once you get there, be blessed that you can't relate.
That's what I'm saying.
Be grateful that you cannotrelate.
I get what he said.

Michael (01:41:32):
But what he's saying, the true dark side is where you
turn sadness into anger, intofury, into you know, like
sometimes to where a person betrying to murder a motherfucker
over this type of stuff.
Yeah.

Keshia (01:41:51):
I've trust me, I've had my share.
Trust me when I don't believeyou.
I don't believe you.
But I would say don't negateit.
I won't say that she hasn't hadher share.
I would say she may not havegone to the levels of what we've
had to go through, which is avery good blessing.

James (01:42:10):
And I hope you do.

Keshia (01:42:11):
But I've had I wouldn't wish that on nobody.

KeKe (01:42:13):
And let's just say I didn't get to the thing.
But at the same time, I hopeyou have I know for a fact the
level that I get did get toomuch.
What you did experience is not.

Michael (01:42:22):
But no, no, no.
There's a whole bunch of them.
But I know a lot, I know a lotof your you know, situations,
circumstances.
So I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,I'm not lowballing you at all.
I'm not lower.

Keshia (01:42:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not saying that you haven'tbeen through anything, but I
commend you just off of ustalking in this podcast and your
viewpoints on life, I commendyou for still being that person
because a lot of people are likeme.

KeKe (01:42:46):
Well, and see, for me, that's one of the things for me
that you say that I'm still thatperson and still trying to
reach for something that Ireally, really want.
I don't, if if what I've dealtwith already, I don't want to
ever feel like I don't ever getlet myself get to a point where
I feel like it's it'll take meback there.
I don't even, I try to put itout, you know, totally out of my

(01:43:07):
mind, out of, you know what Imean?
So it's like I don't even wantto get that's good.
If I even feel like I'm on thefence of trying to go, I'm gonna
go ahead and exit stage left.

Keshia (01:43:18):
That's good.
I don't wanna I don't wanna bepulled into a place again.
I don't want to do that.

Michael (01:43:23):
Yeah, that's good.
My darkest place was with my myfirst two children's mother.
I think I've I I think that wasa very dark spot because it was
nothing but you know argumentsand and and not on my behalf.

(01:43:44):
I that was at the point where Iwas Mr.
Loverboy, Mr.
I was young, I just thoughtthat I just wanted, I just
wanted to love.
Drugged the shit out of me.

Speaker 07 (01:43:55):
And I'm like, you'll love me one day.
No, I'm not, no, I'm not.

Michael (01:44:01):
I was just like, by the time I got done, I I I by the
time I I got up and I I dustedmyself off, I seen like like
three pieces of me left behind.
And I'm like, bro, come on.
And they're like, nah, I can'twalk with you no more.
I don't exist in you no more.

Keshia (01:44:22):
That's sad to say.
But that's but it is truth.
It's sad to put it into wordsto say, I don't exist in you.
I'm not ready to say that yet.
I'm still holding on to okay,you might be way back now
somewhere, but but what's wrongwith shedding that person
though?

Michael (01:44:39):
Because sometimes there's good, there's good stuff
and bad.
There's good and bad.
I guess.
So let's all right, so so notnot going too far off, but it's
just to explain this a littlebit more, right?
So when I was real young, like,you know, I I very playful,
goofy, and all this other stuff,right?

(01:45:00):
And then when I got locked up,that that real goofy guy had to
go.

KeKe (01:45:06):
He shared.
You shared him off.

Michael (01:45:07):
Right.
But I miss him.

Speaker 06 (01:45:10):
Okay.

Michael (01:45:10):
I'm so serious now.
He's not.
And that doesn't exist anymore?
I'm at nothing you play around,you say.
I play, I play and I'm silly,but I'm not, I'm not the guy
from back in the day.
I would have loved to be a man.

KeKe (01:45:25):
You're not the younger you, I'm not sure you probably
didn't have any.

Michael (01:45:28):
But it it was it wasn't the it's like it wasn't the
younger me because like I I knewthat it was I could have had
been me forever.
Because it wasn't like I wasbeing too immature to, but life
changed.
I felt I felt I yeah, my heartwas lighter.
And when that happened, thatended up taking pieces away

(01:45:54):
because I had to put newbuilding blocks in to get
through what I went through.
And then when I come home, andthen you know, my grandmother
passes, you end up having totake more building blocks and
having to put protectionblockers up.
And then when you end up in arelationship, and then that
person ends up doing somethingto you, and now you can't be

(01:46:16):
that love and just straight upcome up to you and I love, love,
love, love, love.
And you're like, damn, you actlike this, and I'm like, damn, I
wish you got to know me back inthe day.
You would have loved to owe me.

Keshia (01:46:27):
Why when you rebuild yourself, why not?
Sometimes when you go throughtrauma, it's gone.
It's as much as you want itback, it's gone.

James (01:46:39):
So my failure because you believe that that does not
serve you.
And it hurts so bad.
And this is something that Ididn't even have to go to prison
for this.
This is something I've learnedover a lifetime, and it hurts so
bad when you want to just belike, there's still like that

(01:47:02):
part of you that goes like uhyou still have the desire, but
the actuality to be like have aconnection, yes, and then you
get fucked.

Michael (01:47:12):
Yep.
For the people that got it.

James (01:47:13):
And you go, fuck you.
I'm not doing this anymore.

Michael (01:47:17):
Right.
Have y'all ever watched InsideOut?

Keshia (01:47:21):
That was a perfect, even though it's for kids.
That was a perfect yeah.
Disney movies are deep.
Disney movies are deep, bro.

Michael (01:47:27):
Like I definitely feel that.
Inside out had I was boomcrying in that movie.
You look, I'm a blown man on apodcast, telling you.
Inside out, one inside out, oneinside, yeah.
Inside out too, even did iteven worse because I was like
calling me straight out.

Speaker 07 (01:47:48):
I'm anxiety, yeah.

Michael (01:47:50):
Yeah, that movie is for adults.
I can't stop moving because ifI move, I feel the sadness, I
feel the depression.
So I keep myself busy, so busythat I'm like, bro, like
Michael, but sit down.
I I can't.
You can't.
I can't.

Keshia (01:48:06):
And even if you sit still, your mind is not settled.
Your mind is going 24-7.

Michael (01:48:12):
Constantly going constantly asleep.
Yep.
Nope.
Yeah.
You can't you guys sit down andscroll videos until you just
notice that you're not awake nomore.
Yep.

James (01:48:22):
And so, yeah, like fall asleep with my goddamn phone in
my hand.
Yeah.
Just to not think about thefuck shit.

Keshia (01:48:31):
That's crazy.

James (01:48:33):
Yeah, that's wild that.
How old are you?

KeKe (01:48:40):
Can I guess?
Yeah, guess.
This should be interesting.

James (01:48:47):
40.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding, I'm justkidding.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.

Keshia (01:48:53):
I was getting ready.
My mouth was working the curve.
I was thinking that what curseword was about to be real.

James (01:49:10):
24.

KeKe (01:49:11):
Thank you.

Keshia (01:49:14):
Yeah, I would have put you at 24.
No, nowhere near it.

James (01:49:19):
34?
Yes.
You're older than me.

Keshia (01:49:22):
No way, James.
Are you serious?
How older are you?

James (01:49:24):
You bag of bones.

unknown (01:49:26):
No way.

James (01:49:28):
You old bag of bones.

Speaker 00 (01:49:30):
Are you serious?

James (01:49:30):
33.
I'm in my Jesus Christ year.
33 was when Jesus gotcrucified.

Keshia (01:49:37):
I just turned 34 in May, so.
That's what's up.

James (01:49:40):
Wait.
When's your birthday?
Let me guess again.
Because you could either be aTaurus or a Gemini.

KeKe (01:49:49):
What you think?

James (01:49:51):
You're a Gemini.

KeKe (01:49:52):
And I am.
And I am.
And I am.

James (01:49:57):
Gemini time.

KeKe (01:49:58):
Oh yeah, for sure.

James (01:50:00):
You're a Gemini too?
You knew that, dude.

Keshia (01:50:04):
When's your birthday?

James (01:50:06):
Your birthday.

KeKe (01:50:07):
Is it May or June, though?

James (01:50:09):
It's May.

KeKe (01:50:10):
It's May.
The 28th.

James (01:50:13):
Close, 27th.

Keshia (01:50:14):
Oh, wow.

James (01:50:15):
Holy shit.

KeKe (01:50:16):
Holy shit.

Keshia (01:50:17):
You have my cousin's birthday.
He's three days older than me.
And he always we picked andgrowing up.
He used to always be like,well, I'm three days older than
you guys.

James (01:50:26):
I knew I had your cousin's birthday.

Keshia (01:50:27):
That's crazy.

Michael (01:50:30):
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
How much?
Man.

Keshia (01:50:36):
So you understand.

James (01:50:37):
Look, so now you understand a little where I
understand the dichotomy of likewhere it's like it's always
like I I get this side, but Iget this side.
It's always that.

Keshia (01:50:49):
So for me, I just I want to turn it off so bad, you know
what I mean?
Like, and so I just kind oflike put it out of sight, out of
mind, turn it off, and don'teven cut it on.
I I don't even know where theswitch is anymore.
That's where I'm at withthings.
It's just like I would like toget to that point.
So that is a very good thing todo.

KeKe (01:51:06):
If if if I know there's a possibility that when I flick
this switch, it's gonna be somenegative or some bullshit going
on.
I'm not even gonna flip theswitch.
I'm gonna just go on the walkpass.

James (01:51:16):
But you'll come back to the switch.
You come back to the switch.
You go, I've been thinkingabout the switch.

KeKe (01:51:22):
I have before.

James (01:51:24):
See?

KeKe (01:51:25):
But now, here, now, no, I'm not going back to the
switch.
I ain't going back.

Michael (01:51:31):
When you a people manager, the switch comes to
you.
I told her I had one guy, youknow, you know, come up and told
me as he was riding by, hey, Ineed to talk to you.

Speaker 07 (01:51:45):
I said, like, what this?

Michael (01:51:47):
All right, and then he get off his cart, he come up to
me.
Man, you act like you got aproblem with me.
I said, oh my.
And so, like, you know,sometimes, nah, so, so I'm big
on respect.
Very big.
Um, I respect everybody.

Speaker 00 (01:52:10):
So when you come at me like that, um certain things
come out of me that normallynobody ever sees.

Michael (01:52:20):
Nobody sees it.
It takes a lot for me, but italso takes for me to feel very
tried by somebody who I feellike feels like they could be a
threat to me.
And so when he did that, it washe will he walking up to me
like as if if I would have saidthe wrong thing, he was gonna do
something.
So I didn't laugh, you know,like, but I straight up told him

(01:52:42):
that, you know, before we,before we even get into, you
know, what's wrong or what thecase is, I just want to let you
know, like right here and rightnow, bro, like what you did
right here indicates that youwanna try to do something to me.
Like you want to scrap rightnow.
Like, like I wanted to put itto him right then and there,

(01:53:02):
like, hey, you know, if you feellike you got something on your
mind, pimp, well, we could wecan do it.
We can do it.
But you could come to me andtalk to me about anything, but
you're gonna come to me withrespect.

Speaker 00 (01:53:20):
Yeah.

Michael (01:53:23):
I'm not scared of you, Pimp.
I'm not and and and anddelivery is everything.
Never mind.
Um but stuff comes and you haveto, you know, yeah, the the

(01:53:43):
more and more sometimes that youdeal with it, it's like riding
a bike.
Sometimes the more and more youdeal with it, and then you
handle it a certain way.
Not if you pop off back withthem.
But you start to learn how tohandle the BS.
Maybe not.

Speaker 07 (01:54:04):
You do, yeah.

Michael (01:54:05):
You do.

James (01:54:06):
Yeah, you do.
You do it's patterns.
You start to notice patterns.
It's quite simple when you seethings like that.
People will do things inpatterns.
Very rare will you see peoplebreak their habits or whatever.

(01:54:27):
Like people are humans arehabitual people.
So it's very easy to see w whatpeople are up to once you start
noticing patterns.

Michael (01:54:42):
If you pay attention though, if you pay attention, uh
some people uh you know willignore it because they don't
wanna separate themselves fromit.
What you mean?
Because some people like thatdrama?
Yeah, some people like the thethe the adrenaline of I don't I

(01:55:05):
don't know, because I'm not thatguy, but I don't know what they
they fiend for.
But it it just seems like theygo out their way.

James (01:55:11):
Like I remember when Oh, so you're saying that people
other people will go out theirway to like shake shit up.
Like some people do.
Just because I believe it.

Keshia (01:55:25):
They they they attention seekers, they they negativity
people.
Yeah, like you always gotta befighting, you gotta be arguing,
you always gotta be that issickening.
It is so I and draining.

Michael (01:55:35):
I used to hate, I used to always hate dating somebody,
right?
When you always get in that sowho you on the phone with?
So what were you doing?
So what were you doing?

Keshia (01:55:48):
I'm like that.

Michael (01:55:49):
Oh my god, try not to know it.
Yes, I am mentally like that.

Keshia (01:55:53):
That is my thought process all the time.

KeKe (01:55:56):
I have a weird, so so I've I've been on the side where I'm
being the one.
I have been questioned becauseokay, going to the grocery
store, right?
I'm not a grocery shopper wherewhen I go to the grocery store,
I'm not gonna go once a weekand I got everything for the

(01:56:16):
whole week.
Hell no.

Keshia (01:56:18):
I'm the one if I'm gonna figure out on on Sunday, I
probably know what I want tocook for Monday.
I might go to the store onMonday to go get it too.

KeKe (01:56:27):
But then on Tuesday tomorrow, if I think I have an
idea of what I want to eat onTuesday, I might get it Monday.
Who knows?
My mind might change.
So I might have to go to thegrocery store Monday.

James (01:56:36):
Dude, you're a fucking psycho.

KeKe (01:56:38):
So check this out, right?
You like the grocery store thatmuch?

James (01:56:45):
It's cup noodles 40 hours a week.

Keshia (01:56:54):
You was doing something else?
I'm doing something.
Who the fuck is at that grocerystore?
Nobody.
The fucking groceries.

Michael (01:57:00):
That's what we're trying to ask you.
What the fuck is at thatgrocery store?

KeKe (01:57:04):
That's bad.
But it's the groceries.
And that's it.
But you said in defense of thatperson.
Your first mind was this bitchis crazy.
She done went to the goddamngrocery store four times.
But you ain't thinking yourmind, it's Jack at the grocery
store.
Did you think that?

Michael (01:57:18):
Maybe, maybe that you didn't even go to the grocery
store.
Maybe you stopped by thegrocery store and that was your
way to go grab a bag of uhlittle groceries, and then you
go see, you know, Pablo Escobar.

Keshia (01:57:29):
Hell no.
Because if you not a fuckingmeeting about it, for real going
to the grocery store.
But you know what it is?
It's a trauma response.
There's no devil's advocate tothat one.
It's a trauma response to that.
The reason why I went to thegrocery store.
There is no devil's advocate.
And if you damn know me, thenyou know that that's what I do.

James (01:57:47):
Wait, wait, wait.
Say it again.
Say what's the reason to go tothe grocery store?

KeKe (01:57:50):
Shit.
I don't know.
That's just like going to thestreet.
If I want to eat something onMonday, okay, I just said today.
I want some spaghetti onSunday.

Keshia (01:58:00):
I'm gonna make some fucking spaghetti on Sunday.
Guess when I'm gonna go to thestore to get that shit.

KeKe (01:58:04):
Who knows?
But it'll probably be onSunday.

Michael (01:58:06):
When I was at my old place, I used to hit publics up
almost every time.

Keshia (01:58:11):
But to her point, no, her point is she legit going to
the grocery store because she'sthe person that goes to the
grocery store every day or everyother day.
But dude thought, well, why yougoing to the grocery store?

KeKe (01:58:20):
And I can't date somebody who's like, damn, bitch.
Well, what the fuck?
I can't.
Like, what the fuck is at thatgrocery store?

James (01:58:26):
Hold on.
Are you making up a scenario oris this actually?

Keshia (01:58:29):
Oh no, this actually happened to me.

James (01:58:30):
You went to the grocery store too many times?

Keshia (01:58:33):
Yeah, that's crazy.
I can't date somebody likethat.
That's crazy.
Who the fuck is at the grocerystore or or or I that's mm-mm.
I and I'm not gonna do that tosomebody.

James (01:58:44):
I know the fact that you were in love with the cashier.
I know you were.

Keshia (01:58:50):
So I'm like, you know, and I wouldn't do that to
somebody.
You had a grocery husband.
You had a grocery husband.
Have either one of you ever hadsomebody call or or have either
one of you ever calledsomebody's phone over 10 times?
Nah, call Kenna.

Michael (01:59:06):
Can can oh my God.
Can can does before 18 count?

Keshia (01:59:12):
Before 18, Mike, what the hell is you keep calling
for?

Michael (01:59:15):
I've done that before.

Keshia (01:59:16):
Why?
What what were you hoping to todo?
If I didn't answer on the firstring or the fifth ring, why the
hell you gonna call 15 othertimes?

Michael (01:59:24):
Cause we were arguing and I wanted to finish my
fucking.
Yeah, no.
I'd have put your ass on theblock list.

Keshia (01:59:29):
She probably that is sick.

Michael (01:59:31):
She probably did.
I said before 18, so it waswhen I was.
But yeah, that don't count.

KeKe (01:59:35):
Yeah, before yeah, that don't count.
But if you didn't write it.

Michael (01:59:38):
That's why I said I don't want to sit here and lobby
and be like, I nerve dirt thatshit before then the person be
listening like, nigga, yeah, shedid.

James (01:59:50):
I can't dance.
You leave a voicemail.
Yeah, you leave a fucking gayvoicemail.

Keshia (01:59:54):
You didn't even fucking come back.

KeKe (01:59:56):
He didn't even fucking come me back.

Keshia (01:59:59):
I would finish my argument.
On their voicemail.

KeKe (02:00:01):
I'm not leaving no damn argument on I'm not even leaving
no damn voice argument.

James (02:00:04):
You get that way.
I wouldn't have to do that.
Three calls max.
Three calls max because I giveyou the benefit of the doubt.

Keshia (02:00:12):
On purpose.
But I'm not a voicemail leadingperson.
I haven't cared about anything.

James (02:00:16):
I'm not a voicemail person either.

Keshia (02:00:18):
That much in a long time.
Ever, probably.

James (02:00:23):
That's when I send those.
That's when I send those voicestext.
Bitch, you better answer thephone now.

Speaker 00 (02:00:30):
That's kind of fun.

Michael (02:00:31):
I got pizza.
Nah.
You're not even here.
Nah, I ain't got I I don't havethe time and energy no more.

KeKe (02:00:37):
Yeah, I'm not about to call.
Ooh.
Yeah, no, no.

Michael (02:00:40):
Nah, I ain't got a time and energy.
So if if I call you, you know,and you don't answer, I'm not
gonna ignore you, but you know,like it is what it is.
Yeah, yeah.
You're busy.
I'm not, and if we if if iflike let's say back in the day
when I said we were arguing, andyou know, if we argue and you

(02:01:00):
hang up, hey, you need yourspace.
Right, man.

KeKe (02:01:04):
I would think the same thing.

Michael (02:01:06):
I guess you got tired of talking.
Right, like you hang up on me.

KeKe (02:01:10):
It's time to cool down.
That's just it.

unknown (02:01:12):
Yeah.

Keshia (02:01:13):
If you think that I'm no, don't been in that like that
in a long time.
That is terrible.
All over the five.
I ain't been in nothing likethat in a good long time.

James (02:01:25):
Look, you get excited about it, don't you?

Keshia (02:01:27):
Alright, I forgot how it used to feel.
I haven't.

Michael (02:01:32):
You like you like you like to feel stalked?
Hell no.

Keshia (02:01:36):
I've never had a stalker.
Yeah, no, I never had astalker.
I had an almost stalker, butthen I'm I block people.
I blocked people quick.

James (02:01:45):
Until you actually get it.

Keshia (02:01:46):
That's why I said back earlier.

James (02:01:47):
You think you like a lot of things?
Until actually you actuallyquick.

KeKe (02:01:52):
Hell no.

James (02:01:53):
No, no, no.
I'm not talking about blockingsomebody.

Keshia (02:01:56):
You didn't have no pair on your ass to come to my house
unannounced.
I promise you, I don't thinknobody should go to anybody's
houses unannounced.
Yeah.
That's not that's not cool.
Don't do that.

James (02:02:06):
I agree with that too.

Keshia (02:02:07):
Don't do that.
You'll you'll call a couple oftimes, you'll email a couple of
times.
Gene pulling up.

Michael (02:02:12):
So I had I had I had a story, right?
Oh my god.

Keshia (02:02:15):
Oh shit.

Michael (02:02:15):
And this shit was real funny when he showed up
unannounced.
No, not where.
But I I was, you know, I was uhkicking it with this person,
right?
And it was it was pretty cool.
But then one day um she wasdrunk and she went out with her

(02:02:36):
co-workers.
And by the time that you knowshe got to the the Braves game,
she's inebriated.
Yeah.

Speaker 07 (02:02:50):
And so I'm like, you know, hey, how you doing?

Michael (02:02:56):
Like, hey, look at my friend, hey done.
You know how they get in a lookat hey, and all her friends
seeing me, oh he's a cute girl.

Speaker 07 (02:03:04):
Hey, I'm like, oh god, hi, okay, bye.

Michael (02:03:07):
And next thing you know, a little while later, I
get a text message talking aboutI want to come over and see
you.
Now, I'm like, I don't wannasee you.
So I don't say shit.
I just let that motherfuckerthere.
Next thing you know, I starthearing knocking at my door.

(02:03:29):
You hear what?
Knocking at my door.
So I look at my ring camera.
I'm drunk and it's as hot asdrunk.
Did you open that door?
So nah, at first nah.
At first I didn't answer thephone, I didn't answer the door.
Cause you know, Reznal was withme, Masaya was with me.

(02:03:52):
So I ain't answering no door,no nothing.
So then next thing you know, Istart hearing rocks at my
window.
So I swear to God, I'm notmaking this up.
I put this on everything Ilove.
This is not, I'm notfabricating this shit at all.
And so I keep hearing it, andI'm looking out the window like,

(02:04:14):
damn, I'm hoping like after awhile, motherfucker, you'll go.
No.
She just started hitting thatdoor harder and harder, trying
to get me to open the door.
And so I'm sitting here like,man, damn, I'm in my bed, like,
mic, just answer the door.
So next thing on Messiah getsout the bed now.

(02:04:34):
So Messiah's like, what's goingon?
Now I was like, there'ssomebody outside drunk.
And a smart ass.
Even back then, she was like,Is it somebody you're talking
to?
I was like, not really.
And so the funny thing was,like, I went to go, and she's

(02:04:55):
looking at me like nigga, answerthe door.
So I went and I asked, like,fucking, I answered the door,
and Messai was right there,wanting to be right next to me
because she thinks she's myguardian, something.
Oh Lord.
And so the by the time that Ianswered the door, and I was
like, what's up?
She just looked and was like,and she looked down at Messiah,

(02:05:17):
and she was just like, I'm sosorry.
I'm so sorry.
Um I said, nah, it's all good,but what's up?
I said, you done got me up now,yeah.
Like, like I I tried to playman, you know, I was like, you
sit up there, my kids, and I waslike, Where's your car?
I Ubered here.

James (02:05:37):
I said Well, you might yeah, well you might as well
stay.

Michael (02:05:46):
So so so so so I was like, so I was I was trying to
help like call, you know, we'llgo ahead and call you an Uber
because you know you can't behere.
And so she's like, my phone'sdead, can't Elise come in the
house?
And I'm like, Mother, nah.
And I'm like, she drunk.
Like, I know she drunk, so if Ileft her out here and something

(02:06:08):
bad happened, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was like, I wanted to makesure the Uber got her and took
us, you know, took us to thehouse.

James (02:06:17):
They're waiting for the Uber.
He's feeding her nutterbutters.

Michael (02:06:21):
You know, the Swiss cake rolls.
Like, even though I pissed out,like, you know, man, my heart
too big.
My heart big as fuck.
So I stayed on the phone withher, like, hell yeah, like the
next day when she was soberedup, yeah.
Me and her, what gave her thebusiness?
Not really, but kinda, and Ijust but I wanted to make sure
she went home and was straightbecause no matter what, you know

(02:06:43):
what I'm saying?
If I if I fuck with you in anytype of way, I should care about
somewhat of your safety.

KeKe (02:06:49):
Yeah.

Michael (02:06:50):
But yeah, that would that was my worst pop-up.
My worst pop-up incident.

Keshia (02:06:57):
I'm not gonna say my worst.
I don't think I've ever had afence.

Michael (02:07:00):
Were you the pop-up or you somebody popped up on you?
Nah, she popped up.

Keshia (02:07:04):
I've been on both sides of the fence.

Michael (02:07:06):
You know what?
I have two.

Keshia (02:07:08):
I've been on both sides of the fence.
I've never had a pop-up, butI've popped up.

KeKe (02:07:12):
I've been on that side.

Keshia (02:07:14):
But when I popped up, I I I I I could have gone to jail.
No thing about my child oranything.
I could have went to jail.
It was about to go.

James (02:07:21):
It'd be that way sometime on me.
Was this when you were younger?

unknown (02:07:25):
Three weeks, three, not three weeks.

Keshia (02:07:26):
No, don't say three.

James (02:07:27):
Three years.

Keshia (02:07:30):
What did you say 48 years?
Not three.

KeKe (02:07:32):
I popped up, but when I popped up, it was just Tomato
tomato I popped up and I poppedup and I did the knocking, but
no response.
I'm like, okay, cool.
But where I was when I poppedup, it was like, okay, well, I'm
just gonna sit here and just uhwhen I popped up, they answered
the door when they closed thedoor.

Keshia (02:07:53):
Me not thinking, that's why I'm putting myself in these
situations.
I tried to open the door.
Had the door open, I'd went tojail.
Yeah, no, I'm not.
So I just watched when I didthe pop-up and just sat there
and then seeing what I need tosee, and just was like, all
right, I'm going to do it.
I might be saying something tothe person, but I ain't I'm not
like a conversation.
I ain't about to do all that.
I climbed like even to thisday, I have to keep sure.

(02:08:16):
You can't go on that side oftown.
I will tell myself you cannotgo on that side.

KeKe (02:08:21):
If it's something that I know will trigger me and I know
for a fact it'll put me in somedanger now, I'm gonna lose my
shit.
I ain't even gonna go.
I'm not doing that.

Michael (02:08:29):
I climbed up onto the second floor balcony just to get
inside so I could find out whatwas going on.
And I found out what was goingon.

Keshia (02:08:38):
I don't ever want to be in that situation.
Let me tell you this.
And then it was in my place togo.
I wanted to pop up, butsomething in my it was literally
probably by the grace of God,like the situ matter of fact,
and now that I'm actuallythinking about it, so I did the
pop-up, and this would have beentwice, but the very first time

(02:08:59):
I could have did a pop-up,something some it was something
like don't just don't do it.
Don't do it.
So I know for a when I got thatmind, you know that see mine
was when you should do on yourshoulder, just ride over that.
You ain't gonna do that.
Just ride over that.

KeKe (02:09:17):
So sitting on my shoulder, and I'm telling you that that
devil kept paying me that day.

Keshia (02:09:22):
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph got to come with this angel and
say, look, girl, because thedevil, if I listen, first mind,
if I listen and go, I ain't notelling what the fuck.
Yeah.
First mine was Kisha just gonnaride over though.
You ain't gonna do nothing.
See you ain't gonna ride.
Got over there, pulling dryway.
I'm just gonna sit here.

(02:09:44):
Get out the car.
Like my mental just, and thenby the time I got out the car
and was at their doorstep, Iknocked on the door.
This idiot answers the door andis like, what are you doing
here?
And I was like, What are youdoing here?
And it just went left.

(02:10:04):
And so he, not an alpha female,he little bitch nigga, closed
the door, and that's when Itried to open the door.
And again, thankfully, they hadthe little automatic lock.
Cause had that door opened, I'dbe in jail.
I'd have been in jail.

James (02:10:19):
So do you want to hear my crash out story?
No shit.
So me and my ex had split, anduh, she had another place, and
uh I was uh I was coming bybecause she had taken a bunch of
my shit.
She took my PlayStation, dude.
Yeah, she was trying to forreal get back at you.

(02:10:41):
I know, but like we talked fora little bit, like we just hung
out, and then um I was like,look, I don't think and this was
a long-going thing, you knowthis story, but this was a
long-going thing.
But I was like, I think weshould just split and not talk
anymore.

(02:11:01):
I took one, I took one of mythings, and it was a piece of
furniture, and I walked out, andshe went, I don't want to see
you anymore.
And she slammed the door.
I went, dude, my PlayStationcards are in there, dude.
I broke the door down.
And uh motherfuckingcartridges.

(02:11:22):
Yeah, my memory cards, uh yeah.
I I wanted that PlayStationback.
Uh I didn't get it because Ionly got it.

Keshia (02:11:32):
I didn't crash out on somebody before, but I just did
that shit because it wassomething to do.
Like now that I think about it,it's like when I think about
it, it's like I was just doingstupid shit.
Because it was really juststupid shit.

James (02:11:44):
Like, girls, I was drunk that night that I did that,
obviously.
Like I was mad because I wantedmy PlayStation and also because
I was like, this person that Ithought I loved, I had to learn
how to not love her anymore.

Keshia (02:11:57):
I probably just crashed out because I've my period was
coming on or something.
Who knows?
I don't I can't even recall metelling you the story now.
Like, should I just be goingshit?
My crash out.
I I I tend to act before Ithink my child has saved a bunch
of lives.
Oh, not me.

Speaker 09 (02:12:11):
Yeah.

Keshia (02:12:12):
Um I had to stop putting I had to stop putting my sink,
my, my, myself in thosesituations because I know me,
even to this day.
I have to, okay, I walk away,I'll let you have it.
Because I know me.
I be done hit you before I knowit.
I be done bust your ass.
Like, I be done bust your assbefore I know it.
By the time the red me up, Idid it.

Michael (02:12:33):
So by the time the red fade away, everything's over.

Keshia (02:12:36):
I never been one of those women like you know the
you know the the um the I callthem the clothes bleachers, the
ones who damage your property.

KeKe (02:12:45):
Never been one of those.
I'm gonna damage you.

Michael (02:12:49):
Yeah, I don't know.

KeKe (02:12:55):
That shit is a journaling rush.

Keshia (02:12:57):
It might be fun.
Who knows?

KeKe (02:12:58):
I I go along.
It really is one of my friends.
Yeah, it's really fun.

James (02:13:02):
Can I guess you're really no no no?
I want to guess your sign.

Keshia (02:13:07):
You won't be able to guess my sign.

James (02:13:09):
Let me guess the uh uh try to guess at least the group.
You're a water sign.

Keshia (02:13:14):
Look at you! Okay, you wanna keep going?

James (02:13:22):
You're cancer.

Keshia (02:13:23):
No, I'm a Pisces.
You weren't supposed to tellme, dude.

Michael (02:13:29):
It's like you had one guest, and the one guest was it.
Well, guys, I know that we'vebeen, you know, we always go out
for like two hours and havegood conversations, and I know
that we're about wrapped andabout there.
And this was a good assconversation, man.
We had some good, good points,and I appreciate everybody that

(02:13:53):
came out, but we we talked abouttrauma, we talked about the
good witch and the bad witch, wetalked about spazzing out
stories.
Like, listen, listen, and andand you know, before we leave, I
I I have such a bad habitbecause I like watching crash

(02:14:14):
out videos.
Like, my algorithm is uh Karenvideos, police stuff, and fights
at Chuck E.
Cheese.
Um someone just gets smackedright across their face and duck

(02:14:34):
and donuts.

James (02:14:35):
And it's like, god damn.

Michael (02:14:38):
So much entertainment.
But anywho, man, you know, thisis the Unbreakable Black Man
podcast, and you know, we'rewe're still growing.
I'm I'm still learning a coupleof things about making sure my
memory card is um free of space.

James (02:14:54):
So we here, we here, we here, we here.

Michael (02:14:57):
Yeah, we are, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So as we close this this dayout, you know, always remember
your mouth is strong, but yourmind is even stronger.
So stop talking about it andmake shit happen.
I'm out.

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