Friday Night Rambles VOL - 18 Feat: Billie & KayKay - The Unbreakable Black Man Podcast

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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Little boy, a little girl, shit, a little bathroom,
yeah, a little kid.
Which is kind of like it'sweird.
I don't want to share those.

SPEAKER_10 (00:07):
Yeah.
I mean, think about if it's twogirls, right?
They want two boys at the end.

SPEAKER_06 (00:15):
When I grew up in Detroit, they did have that.
But it was more like adefinition.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (00:27):
Y'all ready?

SPEAKER_06 (00:29):
Oh, we can get to you in a moment.
You don't have to leave hisphone to this like.

SPEAKER_02 (00:33):
So on the intro, he like starts it.
We're just kind of sitting nottalking, and then he and then
he'll introduce us.
And that's when we talk.

SPEAKER_10 (00:42):
Thank you.
Wow.

SPEAKER_14 (00:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're tuning in to theUnbreakable Black Man podcast
with your host, Michael Terrell,and I'm so glad.
So glad, so glad, so glad you'rehere.
Yes.
One, two, three, four, five.
I'm your guy.
But anyway, this is theUnbreakable Black Man Podcast,

(01:15):
and I'm your host, MichaelTerrell.
And I'm so glad you're here.
As you know, I'm always in themix with the Bis Quick.
And I have me the old, the new,and the shrewd.
But we're gonna do what we do.
And so, as we always do, westart with the old and end with

(01:37):
the new.
I should have been the localrapper, but for some odd reason
I didn't make it.
But um so as y'all see in thecorner, we have Mr.
James is in the building.
And then also we have Mrs.
Seven.

SPEAKER_04 (01:58):
One, two, three, four, five, six.
Seven.

SPEAKER_13 (02:02):
Not the one, not the two, not the three, four, five,
or six.
Seven.

SPEAKER_14 (02:09):
Anywho.
Alright.
And then we have two new guestswith us.
And so these two new guests, Iwould love for each of you to
take some time to introduceyourself.

SPEAKER_08 (02:24):
Well, I am Tammy.
Hello, Tammy.

SPEAKER_14 (02:27):
Hello, Tammy.

SPEAKER_08 (02:28):
Hey Tammy.

SPEAKER_05 (02:32):
Ali is gonna be sexy cave.

SPEAKER_14 (02:39):
In sexy cave.
So, how we do it on theUnbreakable Black Man podcast,
we just a lot of times just haverandom things that we talk
about.
We don't have no set subjects.
It a lot of times we talk aboutwhat's on our minds.
Sometimes we talk about whatwe've been through, what we see
the world going through, and wejust have our opinions on it.

(03:02):
You know, everybody hasdifferent opinions.
You know, we a lot of times jokeand kid kiki, you know, nothing
too serious.
We just love to see how otherpeople really think and and
really involve themselves inthis world.
Um, we always have uh differentpeople on so we can get like
different opinions.

(03:22):
And even to the point to where Iwanted to make sure, even with
the unbreakable black manpodcast, I wanted to have you
know different people on here.
Like the reason why I have Jameson, and the reason why I like
having on is because edit.
He is edit.
I said your name again.

SPEAKER_04 (03:42):
Yes.

SPEAKER_14 (03:43):
Your name sounds too close to the fucking.

SPEAKER_13 (03:49):
Now I gotta sit here and edit that part.

SPEAKER_09 (03:51):
Edit, edit, edit, edit, edit.

SPEAKER_12 (03:56):
Don't edit no more.
Did I change my Alice now?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (04:02):
Really?
Wait, that's we got from Timmy.
Alright, so so so so this iswhat we're gonna do, right?
This is Billy.

SPEAKER_13 (04:12):
This is seven.
Uh huh.
Billy badass.
And I'll figure this shit out insome way.
She said, uh oh, she wants sexyK is about to go through a
change.

SPEAKER_06 (04:31):
It'll probably change about 500 times.

SPEAKER_14 (04:34):
Alright, so so y'all will be delighted to know that
every probably 15 minutes, we'regonna be introduced to somebody
different.
Cool beans.

SPEAKER_04 (04:46):
All right, great.

SPEAKER_12 (04:48):
So before we get started, I wanted to point
something out.
And for the person that beforethe video comes out, if you
can't see this, you're not gonnabe able to understand.
But I want to point out theclear, if you look at the video,
there's a clear divide where allof the black people are sitting
on one side of the room.

(05:08):
And no one wants to sit next tome.
I even wore my shade shirt.

(05:40):
And I'm just getting warmed up.

SPEAKER_07 (05:45):
No, it's funny.

SPEAKER_12 (05:46):
I just thought it was funny.
I just thought it was funny.

SPEAKER_13 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's funny.
Oh my god.
The damn divide was made a longtime ago.
Not in two.

SPEAKER_09 (05:59):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (06:01):
Ah well.
Paulina's cutting him no slip.
Yeah.
I'm just mad at it.

SPEAKER_06 (06:07):
And this is like whale sat in too.
Like he always sits over there.
Like you can tell that's hislittle So have y'all done
podcasts before?

SPEAKER_04 (06:18):
Like, no.

SPEAKER_07 (06:19):
Really?
Yeah.
No.
I was a little rave.

SPEAKER_12 (06:24):
Clearly.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_07 (06:26):
You know.

SPEAKER_12 (06:30):
I missed that.

SPEAKER_06 (06:45):
Like, what were you saying, Billy?
What's your name?
Billy.
Billy.
Billy.

SPEAKER_09 (06:51):
Billy.

SPEAKER_06 (06:51):
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (06:52):
Billy.
No, just Billy.

SPEAKER_09 (06:54):
Oh, not.
Oh Lord.

SPEAKER_08 (06:57):
That doesn't have to see y'all.

SPEAKER_06 (06:59):
Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_07 (07:00):
Oh.
Love you.

SPEAKER_06 (07:18):
I just think it's on my damn nerves.

SPEAKER_16 (07:24):
All right.

SPEAKER_05 (07:24):
Okay, what did you say?
Billy.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't say that.
I thought you were talking aboutit.
Was there a question asked?
What happened?

SPEAKER_14 (07:33):
Well, it was more so that I think that uh oh god.

SPEAKER_06 (07:38):
Her name is Shira.

SPEAKER_14 (07:41):
These names.
Okay, so the number said um soseven was saying.

SPEAKER_05 (07:51):
I know it's hard not to say my name, say my name.

SPEAKER_14 (07:56):
Whenever you were around me, say beep.
Let me stop.
But anyway, um she was sayingthat asking you, like, have you
guys did podcasting before?
And you were saying no thaty'all haven't.
And then she was like, Well, youknow, and then it just went down
there.

SPEAKER_08 (08:16):
It went from there.
You were down radio.
It was a radio interview, but itI can't remember what it was.
Oh, they were really nice.
Oh shit, they were really,really nice.
I just can't remember what itwas.

SPEAKER_04 (08:28):
Oh, where y'all from?
Where y'all came from?
Oh, where from my mama and mydad?

SPEAKER_06 (08:34):
Okay, let's see.
I'm East Atlanta, aggressionroad, French Over and L.
But where you really from?
I'm originally from Detroit.
What up though?

SPEAKER_16 (08:46):
Where's where I'm originally from?

SPEAKER_06 (08:48):
BMF.

SPEAKER_16 (08:49):
BMF.
Really?

SPEAKER_15 (08:53):
You automatically just a part of that.
I knew Big.

SPEAKER_05 (09:01):
Yeah, I think out without it.

SPEAKER_15 (09:03):
I could beat me's eggs, you know.
Like, come on, bro.

SPEAKER_14 (09:08):
But that's just like people from Atlanta.
Everybody, if you're fromAtlanta, if you taught somebody,
yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_13 (09:14):
Me and him did sis.
I'm like, come on, bro.

SPEAKER_14 (09:18):
Like Atlanta, Atlanta is small but big, you
know, like you could be nextdoor and still don't know your
neighbor types things, but youcould be across town and for
some odd reason bump up tosomebody like your ex or
something.
Like, damn, how?

SPEAKER_08 (09:33):
That is true though.
That's very true.
It is small in that way.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 (09:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (09:38):
I I I don't know about y'all, but I hate bumping
in to old classmates.
Hey, sorry, you know, becauseyou know what real right now.

SPEAKER_12 (09:52):
The first thing you think is you better not be doing
better than me.

SPEAKER_14 (09:58):
You better not.
The funny thing about Facebookis you get to see that 85% of
the people that was so-calleddoing so much better than you or
was higher in status than youfell off the cliff.
Like somebody did the LeeUnited, uh, Lee United's uh was

(10:20):
that uh like that's how hard yougot kicked.
Because I see some of the I seesome of the people that I
desired back in the day.
I'm like, damn.
Damn.
You was top five.

SPEAKER_07 (10:38):
You was top five.

SPEAKER_14 (10:40):
You was top five.

SPEAKER_04 (10:42):
But it would be like that.
Yeah, it do be like that.

SPEAKER_08 (10:45):
But why got life be life with some people?
They just yeah, it's a lot ofkarma coming back.
You never know, like how theytreated people.
Now it's coming back on them.

SPEAKER_12 (10:53):
You know, it's crazy to see people that peak in high
school.
Yeah, that are like theathletes, like the then you and
everyone's like, he's the man,obviously.
Maybe looking great.
Coke down.

SPEAKER_14 (11:05):
Yeah, and then but yeah, a lot of people are like
still living in their highschool days.

SPEAKER_06 (11:11):
That's what I would think about.
Yes, they haven't even changedat all.
Like it's some girls that I workwith, they still act like mean
girls, you know what I mean?
Because that's how they used tobe in high school.
You're too old for that.

SPEAKER_04 (11:22):
It's like you're you're the same person, you
haven't grown, you haven't like,you know, you're still gonna be
like, I'm still me to my core.
Like, I'm probably verydissimilar in a lot of ways, but
you grow up, like you experiencethings or you wanna just be a
different or a better person,like a different, not a
different, you know what I'mtrying to say.

SPEAKER_08 (11:43):
I know you evolve, so yeah, evolve because people
do evolve.
Do you feel some type of way ofsomebody still is holding a
grudge from somebody from highschool?
Yeah, like if you justgraduated, okay, but it's been
like 20, 30 years later, and youstill dislike the person because
of what happened.
Like when y'all were like kids,like you need to work on, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (12:02):
Maybe because it's some hoes, it's on site.

SPEAKER_09 (12:07):
It's a whole high school for real.

SPEAKER_05 (12:09):
Yeah, which one bullying me real bad.
If I see you, it's on grudge,yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (12:15):
I still I still have guy, I still have people that I
know from high school that didcertain things that made it to
where like I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_05 (12:25):
Okay.

SPEAKER_14 (12:26):
If me and you sung Kumbaya, I'll never fuck with
you.

SPEAKER_05 (12:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 (12:31):
Never fucking with you is one thing, but holding a
grudge, of course, like Ithere's never like I'm not gonna
warn to you.

SPEAKER_06 (12:38):
Yeah, but you ain't gotta show up and be like, no,
I'm not gonna be phony, but it'slike you got you gonna say one
wrong thing.
Yeah, right around you got onewrong thing to say.

SPEAKER_12 (12:49):
You're talking about high school though.

SPEAKER_14 (12:50):
You're never gonna I still got that, I still got them
emotions in my motherfucking.
But how often just waiting totake this shit out.

SPEAKER_12 (12:57):
How often?
When's the last time anybody hasran into someone that they went
to high school with?

SPEAKER_13 (13:02):
I've never been.

SPEAKER_12 (13:05):
Not including friends, not including friends.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Social media mainly, like nah,not social media.
Because like what's that?
Uh what's holding a grudge forsocial media gonna do?
Yeah, like I'm gonna DM you,like, but I'm saying you never
see.
If I see you, I'm gonna fuckyou.
Yeah, if nobody freaking rightthing.

(13:28):
Nobody.
No, okay, I'm ready.

SPEAKER_08 (13:31):
Okay, I am so I feel like for me, like I remember
what happened, but I could careless.
Like, I mean, whatever.
Like, I'll be in overlay in aoverweight.
Like I have so much morepositive things going on in my
life.
I don't need to go back and anddig that up.
And it's no shade to anybody whostill has that those type of
emotions in life.
No shade.

SPEAKER_07 (13:50):
No, she's saying no shade to the shade.

SPEAKER_06 (13:57):
But no, it's like, you know, people be like, oh,
you should just get over it.
And I do agree with that, butit's like certain people, it's
like if I see you, I'm I mightget a little triggered.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_15 (14:07):
I can understand.

SPEAKER_12 (14:08):
I can understand that.

SPEAKER_15 (14:09):
I can understand that.

SPEAKER_04 (14:10):
That's normal.
I remember like having thesegirls that was so mean.
They weren't, yeah, they wasmean.
I was about to say they weren'tthat mean, but they were mean,
and like um, this new girl hadmoved into the neighborhood, and
we had like really hit it offand like playing together and
whatever, whatever.
And then the first day of schoolcame.
So this was like over the summerthat I started knowing her.

(14:31):
So I knew her first, and thenschool started, and like the
cool girls like recruited herin, and and the our friendship
was just over.
Like, she acted like she didn'tknow me, and like that's
something that yes, I rememberit as a 43-year-old woman, but
like I'm not gonna if I see her,and we're we're friends on
social media, like we DM, it'scool, but like I'm not gonna

(14:53):
open myself back up like that.
Yeah, you know, I know whathappened, but I could still, you
know, like you're not causingme, I'm not letting you you know
that's power.

SPEAKER_06 (15:04):
And I understand people change, like you know,
you can change, but I thinkthere's a lot of people they
were assholes in high school,yeah.
They assholes now, yeah.
You know what I mean?
So it's like some of them.

SPEAKER_08 (15:15):
And it also depends on what you what you went
through in high school, becauseif you were bullied, of course,
that that scar is a little bitdeeper than like what other
people have gone through.

SPEAKER_06 (15:23):
Yeah, so I and I look at you different.
I'll be like, oh yeah, you gotkids now.
Are they gonna do, you know, youknow what you did to other, you
know, kids, is that gonnahappen?
I don't want it to.
Yeah, but that's the top yougotta think about it.
Yeah, you know what?

SPEAKER_14 (15:36):
I was I was tissue soft in high school.
I feel like bullying, I feellike bullying is not that bad.
So I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn'tsoft like in like I couldn't
defend myself or fight formyself.
But I always tried to like likeavoid confrontation.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm the same.
And so with me trying to avoidconfrontation, it always gave

(15:58):
the opportunity for the onesthat figured out that I didn't
want the confrontation.
So they would, they would, theywould consistently do it.
So now it's like like like fuckwith me now, motherfucker.
Like, yeah, like I'm a wholedifferent, I'm a whole different
guy now.
And that's why I'll be like, I'mpetty Paul, I'm petty Peter, um

(16:21):
I'm petty passionate with how Ifeel about things, you know what
I mean?
Anything that you wanna say, I'mlike, man, go ahead and fucking
and put it out there.
I'm petty.
Yeah.
But it's like So if I see thatnigga on the sorry, but if I see
that nigga on the side of theroad and I knew I had a spare
fixing flat and everything,yeah, and I hope it's a puddle
right there, so I can run overthat puddle and nigga.

SPEAKER_06 (16:46):
That's true though.
Sorry.
But let us know, okay?
But I feel where he's comingfrom, but I just wish I was in
that place now mentally, backthen.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I'm 43 years old now,feeling that way.
Who gives a fuck?
I needed to feel that way then.

SPEAKER_04 (17:05):
Then I tell you that too.
Like, I was very like, I'ma stayaway from the trouble.
Like, you know, whatever.
I remember like in fourth grade,no, fifth grade, like this new
girl came to our school, and andeverybody's like, yeah, she bad.
She came from the bad school.
She da-da-da.
And she was like big.
She was big.

(17:26):
And why like her first day ofschool?
I'm minding my business, playingon the playground.
They like, such and such want tofight you.
I'm like, for what?
Like, what I don't even knowher.
She wanna fight you in thebathroom.
Me and my scared self, the onlyperson I ever fighting my
brother.
And I went to the principal.

SPEAKER_07 (17:48):
That's good for you.
Good for you.
I went to the principal today?
I'm like, bitch, what?

SPEAKER_08 (17:58):
You said you think bullying is good.
I want to get back to that.
I heard what you said.
I know you've been dying to getback to that.
What did he say?
We said he thinks bullying isgood.
Well, there's nothing wrong withbullying.

SPEAKER_12 (18:09):
I I can agree with him though.
There's a way.
There's a way to do it.
Like, uh now, of course, like Soyou were a bully.
That's what you're telling me.

SPEAKER_05 (18:18):
That's what you're telling.
You were a bully?
Oh no.

SPEAKER_12 (18:22):
I fucked with people.
Like, that's what you do.

SPEAKER_05 (18:25):
Not bullying.

SPEAKER_12 (18:26):
Do you not think that do you not think that I got
fucked with?
Right.
That's why you bully.
Like, um, what the fuck?
Yeah.
That's what you're saying.

SPEAKER_06 (18:33):
So you should that was a way to develop tough skin,
is what you you're saying?
Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_12 (18:38):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 (18:40):
Did you like beat up people or you just jumped?

SPEAKER_12 (18:43):
No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 (18:44):
That's what I'm talking about, like, you know,
like what type of bully?

SPEAKER_12 (18:46):
Like it would be fights sometimes, but like, not
really, but like, because therewould be some people that you
just get up under their skin andthey win up.
And then they get disrespectfuland it's like, well, hold on.
I was fucking with you.
Why is that?

SPEAKER_06 (18:59):
You have to think there's a fine line.
You don't know what that personcould be sensitive about, what
they're going through at home.

SPEAKER_14 (19:04):
You don't care.
I bully my daughter.

SPEAKER_06 (19:08):
Yes, he does.
What?

SPEAKER_04 (19:09):
He does.

SPEAKER_14 (19:10):
That ass.

SPEAKER_06 (19:11):
And his uncle trying to get her to have thick skin,
but you don't think that canbackfire?

SPEAKER_14 (19:15):
No.
You think she's gonna put upwith shit?
Moving forward?
Yeah.
My my my daughter, my daughter,my daughter is very
strong-minded.
But I also give her the lovethat she needs, too.

SPEAKER_06 (19:28):
Well, I'm about to say it is a bad thing.

SPEAKER_14 (19:29):
Yeah, yeah.
I give her a chance.
I give her I give her a lot of Igive her a lot of love too.
Yeah.
I give her a lot of love.
But at the same at the sametime, like I know that the
world's gonna like.

SPEAKER_08 (19:43):
I feel that's smart.
Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_14 (19:46):
I don't I don't want you to feel like to deal with
the assholes that you gotta beon a thousand different
medications to deal with theassholes that you gotta, you
know, go to a secret place andcry and all of a sudden, nah,
stand up to this pussy.

SPEAKER_06 (20:00):
Well, that's how I am with my daughter.
Like, no, you fight, you knowwhat I'm saying?
You know, I was like, alwaysmake them hit you first.
That way it's self-defense.
I tell her, you know, and don'tgive a fuck about what nobody
thinks.

SPEAKER_08 (20:14):
But but I mean, as a teenager, that's really hard
because you're still discoveringwho you are, so you're insecure
about your body changing.
So it's it's hard to not careabout what people make.

SPEAKER_01 (20:24):
Especially now, can y'all imagine social media?
Oh my god, oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 (20:30):
And then they do all the filters, so by the time you
see them in person, you're like,wait, who is this?
Think of all the videos becausethey want to look you know
perfect.

SPEAKER_12 (20:38):
Think of think of all the videos you see of people
that are just like imagine ifyou were outside right now and
you were like just lookingaround, like looking at the
ground, and I just record youand I go, look at this fucking
loser.
Like a lot of people do that.

SPEAKER_08 (20:51):
They do that.
They do that.
That's just weird.

SPEAKER_12 (20:53):
I don't know how many times I've been recording.

SPEAKER_08 (20:56):
Yeah, yeah.
And that's a form of bullying, Ibelieve.
That's the one because it goesviral.

SPEAKER_12 (21:00):
That's a weird form.
That's not real bullying, that'sgay bullying.
Yeah, that's it.
You gotta do it, yeah.
You gotta do it in person.
You gotta get in.
You gotta see the person likelose the light in their eyes.

SPEAKER_14 (21:13):
That is that is that is when when somebody pulls out
that phone and tries to bullyyou through the phone.
To me, it's like a a way ofbeing protected while you bully.

SPEAKER_05 (21:27):
Yeah, because you real gas.

SPEAKER_14 (21:30):
I can't I can't I know that I can't just off and
whoop your ass.
Right.
Because you got me on film.
Now everybody sees that youbullying me.
But in this victim mentality,they're gonna be like, oh, he
put his hands on you.
But but literally, he's beatingme up mentally.

SPEAKER_04 (21:49):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (21:50):
Nobody gives a damn about how he's beating me up.
He's making me feel like it'staunting.

SPEAKER_04 (21:55):
It's like very wants you to do something.
And I'm like, it's provoking.

SPEAKER_14 (22:00):
I tell people all the time, like, the world, the
world is very secure now becausewe have the military, we have
police.
I said the scary, I said, youknow, everybody talk about scary
times.
You know, the scary times wasthe wild, wild west.
When you could be out in themiddle of the place and somebody
could rob and kill you, andnobody will know nothing.

(22:22):
There's no fingerprints, there'sno camera, there's no nothing.
If you walk past somebody, youbetter respect this
motherfucker, because thismotherfucker might be a killer.
But now in these days, you couldbe walking next to a killer and
pull that phone out and be like,you wouldn't shoot me now.
You won't shoot me now.
You won't shoot me now.

SPEAKER_15 (22:40):
You know?

SPEAKER_14 (22:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 (22:42):
And we sit there and watch it, and you go, shoot him,
shoot him.

SPEAKER_03 (22:46):
He's going violent.

SPEAKER_08 (22:50):
So like, if that were me, right.

SPEAKER_14 (22:53):
Yes, keyboard gangster.

SPEAKER_08 (22:56):
Exactly.
Yeah, tons of crazy.
Yeah.
Social media.
I'm happy we didn't have socialmedia.
And it was a time like cameras.

SPEAKER_12 (23:07):
I don't know about you guys, but like I first got
on Instagram like right when itgot started, right around like
um 2012, maybe.
And it was there was noinfluencers.
No.
That was not a thing.
It was people just being people.

SPEAKER_08 (23:22):
It was just like when I joined, it was people
posting pictures of their wristlike food.

SPEAKER_12 (23:25):
With kitty filters, the the worst filters.

SPEAKER_06 (23:30):
You can always tell like the OG.
I always use Nashville filters.
Now you can look like a totallydifferent person.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (23:40):
So what what what really what really makes me
laugh is when, like, you know,you might see on Facebook and
all these different sites anddating sites and any site that
you have, right?
It's crazy because I hear thisfrom my female friends as well,
right?

(24:01):
I know that they use filters foreverything.
I did not know that the men aredoing it too.

unknown (24:10):
Really?

SPEAKER_03 (24:14):
Why are you doing that as a man?
You trying to give yourselfcheaper.

SPEAKER_14 (24:16):
But that's what I'm trying to say.
Like, what they call it, the thethe baby filter where it like it
takes your flaws away.

SPEAKER_08 (24:24):
I don't know you like I don't know you like a
man.

SPEAKER_12 (24:33):
Have you heard of this thing called mewing that
men do?
What is mewing at?
Turn the light on real quick.
I'm gonna show you.
Watch.
It's really what you suck inyour cheeks and you bite your
own cheeks.
What?
And all right, watch.
I'll show you.
It's so gay.
It's so fucking gay.
I can't wait to see this.
Oh, hell god, I'm gonna bite it.

SPEAKER_08 (24:49):
Yeah, let me wait.

SPEAKER_14 (24:52):
Oh, okay.
Uh-oh, uh, I can't.
Uh, uh, uh, all right, rightthere, right there.
It's uh-uh, that little remoteright there.
Yep, hit light on at the toptop.
Oh.
Bam.

SPEAKER_07 (25:05):
Bright light, right light.

SPEAKER_14 (25:07):
Bright light.

SPEAKER_07 (25:07):
Wait, what's happening?

SPEAKER_08 (25:09):
He's about to show us a filter.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07 (25:15):
Oh my god, that looks so my crazy.
Okay, what what is the what isthe point of that?
What is the point?

SPEAKER_14 (25:24):
It said that's a pose that guys do now in in
pictures.

SPEAKER_12 (25:28):
It's supposed to give you jaw lines.

SPEAKER_04 (25:30):
Oh my, like a contour.
It's contour for me.

SPEAKER_14 (25:37):
So like the next one.
Over.
Oh, yep, right there.
Yeah.
Yeah, like oh man.
Mewing.
Mewing.

SPEAKER_01 (25:48):
I have never heard of that.

SPEAKER_14 (25:49):
That's just like I I call it like a lot of guys like
the peacock too.

SPEAKER_01 (25:54):
Wait, what?
Peacock, so, so yeah, I'm gonnaput you in that.
Y'all give me the hiccups.

SPEAKER_14 (26:02):
Come here, girl.
I'm gonna put you in a peacock.
I'm gonna put you in a peacock.
But you know, it's the it's thename.
It's the male peacock that doesthe lifting and the feathers
that.
And so the more that the pretty,like the the more colorful the
fle the feathers are and themore that he can vibrate itself,

(26:25):
the more.
So they call it when a guy triesto impress a female with the
things that he does, he'speacocking.
And so, like, if he's wearing awhole bunch of jewelry, got
rings all on his fingers, gotgot the pain in his head, like.

SPEAKER_07 (26:41):
Maybe comment, but maybe they don't care.
They just try to show you.
Well, you say you don't like it.

SPEAKER_14 (26:46):
No, no, I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
attracted to a guy.
So I don't care what a guy does.
I know that.
I'm just saying, I wouldn't, I Imean, I feel like all men and
even women, all of people try topeacock.
You know, everybody has a formof.
Like, like I tell people all thetime, like, if, if, if, if there

(27:10):
were no women in the world, doyou believe that I would have a
nice house or or or cleancarpets?
Or I can live in a cardboardbox.

SPEAKER_05 (27:19):
Fancy taper towels.
They were lovely.

SPEAKER_06 (27:26):
These are nice.
Oh, they were very soft, youknow.
But I get it.
Everybody does want to feeladmired.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There we go.
There we go.
If you say you don't, you willlie.
Yeah, absolutely.
You want to feel sexy, you wannafeel attractive.

SPEAKER_14 (27:43):
That's why I kind of understood.
I don't know if y'all followlike uh like certain spice, but
Curry.
I'm sorry.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You that's exactly where I wasgoing.
And a lot of people don'tunderstand where she's coming
from, but even as a guy, I getit.

SPEAKER_01 (27:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (27:59):
No matter, no matter what.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I need context.
What are you talking about?
Okay, no problem.
Uh so Steph Curry, you knowSteph Curry is the guy that
plays basketball.
All right.

SPEAKER_12 (28:10):
Are you talking about what his wife's been
saying?

SPEAKER_14 (28:12):
Yeah, about how she's like, you know, she wants
to be desired.
She always sees, you know, womenchasing after.

SPEAKER_12 (28:19):
But didn't she say she didn't want to have kids
either?

unknown (28:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (28:22):
She said she wanted to have that's so weird to say.
No, it's she wanted to f I guessshe said she said that she
wanted to follow her dreams, youknow, like uh be I think she
wanted to be an actress andsomething else.

SPEAKER_04 (28:34):
And I didn't take it as though she didn't want kids
at all.
I took it like she wanted tolike experience her life a
little bit, like, you know, shewent to school, right?

SPEAKER_12 (28:43):
How is she not experiencing life?
She's married to a millionaire.

SPEAKER_06 (28:46):
That's what it's before.

SPEAKER_04 (28:48):
I think she's still married.

SPEAKER_06 (28:49):
Mary is a step curry, and that's probably what
she feels her identity is right.
Who am I?
Why I want to pursue the thingsthat I dreamed about instead of
just being his wife, right?
The mother under his shadow.

SPEAKER_14 (29:01):
But but but but but but with all that money.

SPEAKER_12 (29:04):
How is that such a bad thing?

SPEAKER_14 (29:05):
She could do anything that she wants to,
really.

SPEAKER_06 (29:08):
Yeah, but that's not I've been around money so I'm I
ain't even when you've beenaround money so long, it's kind
of like it probably will getold.
Like you doesn't fulfill youlike you think that it would, I
think that it would, because Iain't got no money right now.
But you know what I'm saying?
Somebody who's been around itfor all that time, she would be
here for a long ass time.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 (29:29):
They were together like when they were teenagers.

SPEAKER_14 (29:31):
Like, like, like if she was like, I want to be an
actress, you literally can buy awhole fucking production team.

SPEAKER_08 (29:38):
But I think that's her point.
She's just like she could do itbecause of her husband and stuff
for Curry, versus it, oh, she'sactually talented on her own.
But it's like, oh, Steph Curry'swife, Steph Curry's wife.
Right.
I think she just wants, likethey were saying, she just wants
her own identity.
Like I do.

SPEAKER_14 (29:52):
Man, if they were home with my husband.
If they said if as long as Icould do whatever I want to,
they'd be like, Oh, yeah, thisis.
Who I'm trying to think.
Why I say I'll just say Oprah.
I'm trying to think of somebodywho's butt ugly.
Stedman's the man.
But I wouldn't care if she wasbutt ugly and they were like,
oh, that's such and such white.

(30:13):
I meant husband.
And I'd be like, yeah, I suream.
As I pull out my card and Istart spending it on everything
that I need to.
And I think it's like I said, Iget I get her though.

SPEAKER_04 (30:25):
It's always like a grass is greener on the other
side thing too.
Like, like I probably wish I hadher life and she wished she had
my life, you know, because Ididn't have a child right out of
college or right out of highschool.
Like I worked, traveled a littlebit, partied for a really long
time, and then you know, youknow back on that party.

(30:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 (30:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just kidding.

SPEAKER_16 (30:51):
Just kidding.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (30:55):
I missed that one.
I missed that one.
Her past party life.

SPEAKER_08 (31:00):
No, we're kidding.

SPEAKER_09 (31:09):
They know her party day.
Jitterbug.

SPEAKER_12 (31:13):
They know her party day.
I know what the cacklin means.
You know?
Is that recruit- Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 (31:21):
But yeah, like, so I want to segue us because your
not the last podcast, but theone that I was on the phone.
There was like a topic.

SPEAKER_11 (31:32):
Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_04 (31:32):
And you had a topic.
They kind of all relate.
You know, well, you had a topicyou you heard about in the
world.

SPEAKER_09 (31:40):
Edit.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (31:42):
Oh, I said your name.
Okay.
What is your name?
Right now it can be KK.
Right now.
Oh no.

SPEAKER_16 (31:49):
KK, KK, KK, okay.

SPEAKER_07 (31:52):
Okay.
Okay, KK.

SPEAKER_12 (31:55):
I was just saying, why just two?
No, but I'm just playing.
I'm just playing.
Oh my god.
I'm just joking.
It's just joke.
What?
I'm drinking Mexican meat.
I'm a racist.

SPEAKER_07 (32:08):
And he has a shotgun sure for cracking.
And I'm like, yes.
It's all affront.

SPEAKER_12 (32:14):
It's all affront.
I'm the fanos of white men.
You cannot touch me.

SPEAKER_08 (32:24):
What were you guys talking about before?

SPEAKER_04 (32:26):
Oh, I wanted to segue.
So, yes, what were we talkingabout?

SPEAKER_07 (32:30):
So my god.

SPEAKER_04 (32:37):
Show's over.
Okay.
All right.
5432 Wait.
Hey, Kiki.
Yeah.
So I feel like you had a littletopic.
Uh oh.
We were talking about what wetalk about.

SPEAKER_06 (32:54):
What we were talking about.
I mean the main thing that wegot from it was like realizing
when you can be woman enough orto say you gotta say the topic.
What was the okay, okay?

SPEAKER_04 (33:08):
Here go the topic.
Okay.
So you done been with your manfor a minute.
You know, y'all, you know,y'all.
Yes.
No, you don't keep done.
I want to know where you get.
You been with your man for aminute.
He he did a lot to be with you.

(33:30):
Uh-huh.
Like a lot.
He moved, you know.
He's a good man, Savannah.
He a good man, Savannah.

SPEAKER_13 (33:37):
He's a good man.

SPEAKER_04 (33:38):
And you know, y'all just doing y'all thing.
And so sometimes, like.
Sometimes when um it's been aminute, you know, things not get
old, but you know, you kind oflose like a little bit of that
fire.

SPEAKER_06 (33:59):
Especially it was like, okay, so we were in a long
distance relationship for fouryears.
And then he moved down here fromDetroit.
And so it was like when we wouldsee each other, we still saw
each other like every month.
But it was like, you know, whenwe see each other, it's ready.
It's gone.
You know, he would do the littlesweet stuff, sending me flowers,

(34:20):
sending me gifts.
He's just a good guy.
You know, he still is.
He still is a great guy.
But it's like, you know, sincehe moved down here to Atlanta,
you know, he's been here for ayear.
It'll be a year in November.

SPEAKER_08 (34:32):
It's been that long.

SPEAKER_06 (34:33):
Yeah, it's been that long.
So it's like, you know, right,right.
Y'all gotta kill me.
I feel like it took forever.
Sorry.
Um It's like since he's gottenhere with like the day today, it
can get a little um mundane,like a little routine.

(34:53):
What you mean?
Like what he be doing that youLike he just he wants to just I
knew he loved sports, but heloves sports.
So he he'll watch sports everytime they come on.
He'll watch baseball, football,basketball, two squirrels
fighting.
He'll he'll he'll watch anythingand I'm gonna do that.

(35:15):
But I knew that about himbeforehand, but it's like say
that again.

SPEAKER_14 (35:19):
I knew I knew we were gonna do that.

SPEAKER_06 (35:22):
I knew that about him before.
But now that I see him doing itevery day, it's like, damn, he
really is obsessed.
But I have to catch myself andbe like, okay, I knew this about
him.
But it's like I'm complainingeven though I knew it about him.
So that's something I have toYeah, but as far as like losing

(35:43):
the spark, I be like trying tolike, you know, well, let's do
this.
Well, as long as we're backbefore seven before the game
comes on.
And what time we come and talkabout doing this because it's
two games that come on.

SPEAKER_12 (35:56):
I don't even think.
Oh yeah, so you're dating theman basically.
You're dating the pretty muchlike a real game.
He's uh it now it's good.
He's got his own boundaries,he's uh and you knew.
Yeah, and and God forbid a manha what you're complaining right
now is about a man havinginterests.

SPEAKER_06 (36:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 (36:16):
You probably have interests.

SPEAKER_06 (36:18):
I do.
And like he'll and he'ssupported me, and then like he
knows that I like murder mysteryand like people getting, you
know.
So he took me to a crazy.

SPEAKER_12 (36:33):
He's gonna end up in a body bag before kick-off.
Figure this shit out before halftime.

SPEAKER_06 (36:43):
You didn't hear this?
Right, no.
That's why my name is KK.

SPEAKER_12 (36:46):
Um before the opening pitch.
So it's over with.

SPEAKER_06 (36:51):
But you know, he's very, you know, uh wow, I really
have to, I cannot be the victim.
No, you know what I mean?
And I think that I'm so used tobeing the victim in so many
situations.
I'm just being very transparentright now, you know, like I
ain't no victim in thissituation.
You got a good man.

(37:11):
But I do, but at the same time,it's funny you said that.
It's like I do want to realizethat I have a good man and
appreciate him, but that doesn'tmean I'm just gonna let you run
over me either.
Like, how do I say what I want?
You know, like communicate whatI want without sounding or being
ungrateful.
Like, that does just because youlike sports doesn't mean I want

(37:32):
you to ride on the couch andwatch sports all the time.
How do I say, baby?

SPEAKER_08 (37:38):
I want to when you I have I just have one question
before I say something.
Is it just football or is itbasketball?
Is it baseball every yeah?
Two girls.
Football season ends.
Two squirrels fighting.

SPEAKER_04 (37:54):
But it's just all the time.
I think that's excessive.
And I'ma just make a real quick.
I know you're like, I thinkthat's excessive.
I think he should have hisinterests.
Yeah.
Of course.
But like, it's gotta be a pointwhere he agrees, like, okay,
maybe we can either watch ittogether or maybe we can still
do da-da-da.
Like, here's my sports that likeare just a it's okay, but the

(38:18):
sports I really want to watch, Ineed to.

SPEAKER_06 (38:20):
And he does try to do that.
He does try to do that.
I guess the problem for me, andthat's why I admit that I'm
spoiled.
Say that.
Strike that from the record.
I am spoiled, and it's so crazy.
Like, it helps this is helpingme because when I hear myself

(38:40):
outline, I'm like, damn, bitch.
Like I don't understand hisobsession with it, but guess
what?
It's not my place to understand.
That's what he likes.
Right.
Let me ask you something.

SPEAKER_12 (38:55):
Uh did uh when you so obviously you've seen him
watch games, whatever game itmay be.
He gets excited, right?

SPEAKER_06 (39:04):
I'm a child, yes.

SPEAKER_12 (39:08):
So you see that that that's exciting for him.

SPEAKER_07 (39:12):
Yes.

SPEAKER_12 (39:12):
Has there ever been a thought to have been like
maybe I can try and get him?
Because that'd be more time withyou and him together, try and
learn the game.

SPEAKER_06 (39:22):
He he does, and I believe when I ask questions, he
doesn't make me feel like I'mstupid.
Like you know, like he doesexplain it to me.
Like I said, y'all, it's my ass.
It's me.

SPEAKER_12 (39:35):
I was gonna say, you're not helping me.

SPEAKER_06 (39:38):
Like, that's why I said, like, this is really
helping me.
Like, wow, I be complaining andshit.

SPEAKER_14 (39:42):
Cause you really gotta kinda that's the beginning
of the fight, though.
When you could realize at leastyou have that self-awareness
going on that might not be theother person, it might be you.
Some people deflect so hard anddon't want to even look in the
mirror.
But you know that thing thatMichael said a long time ago
with that looking in the mirror.

(40:02):
Like a lot of time, a lot oftimes when I look at flaw in
another person before I look atthat flaw in that person, I
always be like, Well, what is itwith me that makes me not
connect in this way?
Because like I was justlistening to you, and I'm like,
man, the coolest fucking thingabout sports is that you can go

(40:23):
to the bar and watch sports.
And you don't have to even watchthe sport, you can just be happy
to be in the environment.

SPEAKER_12 (40:32):
You can switch up teams mid-game.
You can one person you go, I'mcheering for the lions, and then
the lions start losing, you go,fuck the lions.

SPEAKER_00 (40:45):
I don't even mean to do that.
I forgot you said you're fromDetroit.

SPEAKER_12 (40:50):
You know what?
I might as well say the fuckingFalcons because they're about as
ass as anybody.
Not this year.

SPEAKER_09 (40:56):
Hold on.

SPEAKER_14 (40:58):
Thank you.
Thank you.
But I don't watch the coolestthing that you could do,
probably, like, especially ify'all watch sports, like, you
know, like if you, you know, alot of things you want
reciprocated, right?
And you would hope that youwould have a person that will
reciprocate, right?
So the coolest thing, right?
If whatever the fuck team thathe likes, right?

(41:20):
Just not even a game here.
Just surprise him with a gamethat's a state over.
You know, and say, hey, I gottickets to such and such, and I
want to do a road trip, and Iwant to do this.
You know, like that's how that,you know, a lot of times, like
the thing I be feeling like withwomen, women have the control of

(41:41):
the car.
The man is the engine, but womenhave the control of the car.
So a lot of times when you lookat the issue that's really going
on, a lot of times you cancontrol the outcome of it.
So if you feeling like at somepoint that you feel drained or
it's not exciting no more, makethat motherfucker exciting
because we're gonna do whatevery'all tell us to do.

SPEAKER_06 (42:06):
No, because he's like, Hey man, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not turning.
No, turn James's mic off.

SPEAKER_12 (42:14):
No, listen, listen.

SPEAKER_09 (42:17):
Listen.

SPEAKER_12 (42:20):
I'm not trying to hear any of that shit because
I'm gonna do it.
I'm about to, I'm about to.
While Mike's over here talkingabout, oh well, women drive the
car, they drive on ball tires.
They don't know what they'redoing.

(42:41):
They drive on ball tiresconstantly.
They run out of oil, they don'tknow what's going on.

SPEAKER_15 (42:49):
Take that shirt off.

SPEAKER_05 (42:55):
Take that shit off.
Wait a minute, wait a minute,wait a minute, wait a minute.
What do you mean to like?

SPEAKER_12 (43:04):
That shit off.
I'm the sweetest taboo, baby.
I'm the taboo.

SPEAKER_06 (43:11):
Put your sign.
Smooth up her.
What's your sign, James?

SPEAKER_12 (43:14):
I'm a Gemini.

SPEAKER_06 (43:15):
Oh, hell no.
I knew it.
I knew it.
I knew it.
Oh, she said.
I'm leaving the show.
Take KKK out.

SPEAKER_00 (43:28):
KK out.

SPEAKER_06 (43:29):
He's out.
Uh-uh.
I was never here.
Brickly's dad is a Gemini.
Oh shit.

SPEAKER_12 (43:35):
Who is?

SPEAKER_06 (43:36):
Oh, my child.

SPEAKER_12 (43:38):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 (43:39):
Shout out to Bricklyn and her father.
Right?

SPEAKER_12 (43:42):
You must have put him through some bad things.

SPEAKER_01 (43:46):
I'm just playing.

SPEAKER_12 (43:48):
I'm talking about the Gemini.

SPEAKER_06 (43:50):
Oh, yeah.
Gemini's are just.

SPEAKER_12 (43:51):
So what is just a high?
Or just what?
Oh, yeah.
What's yours?
Oh.

SPEAKER_06 (43:55):
I'm a TARS.
Okay.
Yes.

SPEAKER_12 (43:57):
Stubborn.

SPEAKER_14 (43:58):
The bull.
Stubborn as a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_13 (44:01):
Damn.
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (44:03):
I am stubborn.
But see, that's the thing.
My boyfriend, his birthday isthe day after mine.
I'm May 8th.
He's May 9th.
And we are so freakingdifferent.

SPEAKER_04 (44:12):
Wow.
But the men signs of yours aredifferent.
Like me and um Amir, we were thesame sign, but like he was so
different.
I'm over here.
But like I feel like you're, youknow how you look at the chart
and it's like you're mostcompatible.
Like, what is that sign?

SPEAKER_06 (44:28):
I'm supposed to be compatible with like is it your
sister's sign?

SPEAKER_12 (44:32):
That's what whatever's like right across.

SPEAKER_04 (44:34):
Yeah, Scorpio is my opposite.

SPEAKER_12 (44:36):
Like Sagittarius is my sister's own.

SPEAKER_04 (44:37):
Michael is Scorpio.
Oh.

SPEAKER_06 (44:41):
Let me sit over there.
But no.
Scorpio is my art.
And I'm supposed to becompatible with Capricorn, uh,
Virgo, and Pisces, but I can'tstand Virgos.
Pisces too emotional.

SPEAKER_12 (44:57):
Virgos are annoying.

SPEAKER_07 (44:58):
Virgos are Virgo.

SPEAKER_12 (45:00):
Fucking annoying Virgos.

unknown (45:01):
Shut up.

SPEAKER_07 (45:02):
Yeah.
Virgos are critical.

SPEAKER_12 (45:06):
They seem to always be autistic.
It's like.
We support the autistic.
I do too.
I do too.

SPEAKER_14 (45:14):
But they're just annoying sometimes.

SPEAKER_06 (45:15):
Are you a May or a June, Gemini?

SPEAKER_14 (45:18):
Oh look.

SPEAKER_06 (45:19):
Okay, because May, I can tolerate a little bit more.
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (45:22):
June, I've been on show.
I see.
I'm more of the June.
Like Gemini is my sister's sign.
I'm most compatible with Gemini.
And then it's Libra.
And those signs, men or women, Iall I can always like talk.
But I can talk to anybody.
I feel like Aquarius is likeanybody.

SPEAKER_06 (45:38):
That's a mom.

SPEAKER_04 (45:39):
Yeah, my mom.

SPEAKER_09 (45:40):
Oh, you're my story.

SPEAKER_06 (45:41):
Yeah, she's January Aquarius.

SPEAKER_04 (45:44):
Dory's January Aquarius.

SPEAKER_06 (45:45):
Oh, and see, that's the thing.
I grew up around Capricorn.
Oh.
So, you know, that's probablywhy I'm a little selfish and
crazy.
And I'm not trying to be fine.
Like they, like my mom, mygrandmother, they were very
narcissistic.

SPEAKER_04 (45:58):
Oh.
Very.

SPEAKER_06 (45:59):
So I think I've gotten not allof it, but you black.
Like I don't know how to thinkoutside of my feelings and don't
even realize it.

SPEAKER_14 (46:08):
Is everybody narcissistic now?

SPEAKER_06 (46:10):
I don't think it's narcissistic.

SPEAKER_14 (46:11):
Is everybody everybody says like I don't
think I think that we use thatword a little too loosely?

SPEAKER_08 (46:18):
And gaslighting.

SPEAKER_06 (46:19):
Yeah.
Oh yeah, gaslighting.
What's another word I just getthat a lot?

SPEAKER_12 (46:29):
What's another word?
Is that what you just said?
Do you get that a lot?
No, I don't.

SPEAKER_06 (46:33):
I don't think you're selfish though.
I think everybody can be.
I don't think that I'm just aselfish person.
Just like what I explained toy'all before.
That's selfish.

SPEAKER_14 (46:43):
How many, how many siblings do you have?

SPEAKER_06 (46:45):
I have three sisters.
But you grew up with.
No, I grew up by myself.

SPEAKER_04 (46:51):
So she was like an only child.

SPEAKER_14 (46:54):
So I I I grew up, I grew up an only child for 13
years.
And even with that, that I stillfelt like an only child because
I was, by the time my sister wasborn, I was being raised.
I moved with my grandparents.
And even with them, I was likethe only child again.
And so I still I still havethose penis.

SPEAKER_08 (47:18):
I do have a question because my boyfriend told me
that he lived with hisgrandparents as well.
Is that something with men likeyou don't want to live like with
your like why why is it morecomfortable with your partner?

SPEAKER_14 (47:29):
I don't want to get too personal.
No, no, no, no, man.
I I I love talking about that.
But um, so for me, I was sayingI was I was raised, I was raised
by my mother.
And you know, when you're young,you you you tend to not be with
the best person, and so as I gotolder, I started to be a little

(47:53):
rebellious and fearless.
You are if you're being abusiveto my mother, and as I get older
and I start to recognize that, Icould fight too.
You know, and and and it startsto be drama at the house.

(48:16):
Sometimes it's best when the kidcan go and stay with the
grandparents.
I have the like people be like,nigga, where are you from?
I had I just had a vendor theother day, the flower vendor, he
was like, uh, he said, man, Iwas confused.
I thought I was talking to awhite guy.

SPEAKER_11 (48:36):
I was like, damn.

SPEAKER_12 (48:38):
Yeah, I caught yeah.
I caught I I caught a little bitof that conversation.
I was like, I was like, what thefuck?
I was I I was looking like 50Cent.
Like, why am I taking trays?
Like, God damn.

SPEAKER_14 (48:54):
But but growing up with my grandparents, I had got
stability, yeah, I had gotstructure, I had care, I had
loving, I had everything becauselike what I everybody, my my you
don't know y'all.
Well, whatever my grandparentswere in the past, I don't know

(49:16):
it.
But as them, as mature adults,they took good care of me, but
then at the same time, they letme be adventurous to learn
myself into to to Yeah, sothat's how I am with my daughter
now.
Like I'm like, here, I'll helpyou if you you fuck up, but go
do it on your own.

(49:37):
Like, I want you to learn thesethings because if I'm not here,
I need you to know how to handleit.
And that is how my grandparentsdid it.
They they w they, I guess,because they were old, they're
like, nigga, I ain't chasing atme.

SPEAKER_04 (49:49):
So would you say you're still adventurous?

SPEAKER_14 (49:52):
Let's talk.
Let's explore that.
I do, I do.
I I still I still love to trydifferent things.
I still love to go differentplaces.
Try different things.
I do.

SPEAKER_07 (50:02):
Can y'all say this?
Really?

SPEAKER_12 (50:07):
And what types of things would those be?
Let's take pineapple.
Let's take a break.
Let's take a break.
We gotta take a break?

SPEAKER_02 (50:16):
Pineapple.
What time is it?
It's machine.
It's 11 o'clock.

SPEAKER_08 (50:21):
It means 10.07.

unknown (50:23):
Oh.

SPEAKER_08 (50:24):
She has a curfew at 11 a.m.
She it's 11 p.m.
She has to leave at 11.
Oh.
She's not leaving.
We're not leaving.
No, no, not just let her bewaiting at the same time.

SPEAKER_14 (50:34):
So normally, normally, normally, normally we
record for two hours and thenwhen we hit an hour, we take a
little break.
Is that cool?

SPEAKER_04 (50:40):
That's fine.
You ain't got another minute.

SPEAKER_09 (50:42):
Last time he's sitting up here talking about
it.

SPEAKER_14 (50:51):
You know what?
You know.
Don't be mad when I try to actlike Stefan.

SPEAKER_15 (50:57):
Like normally I sound like Steve.

SPEAKER_14 (51:00):
Normally I sound like Steve.
I got no, I got I got smallnasal passages.

SPEAKER_15 (51:06):
So when I'm when I'm on when I'm on my podcast, I
wanna sound sexy, damn it.
Hello.

SPEAKER_14 (51:14):
Yes.
Well, the bathroom.
The very white baby.

SPEAKER_05 (51:18):
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (51:20):
This is good.
I want us to like re-read this.
We not broke the ice movie.

SPEAKER_15 (51:28):
Oh, so we're taking our break.

SPEAKER_06 (51:30):
Yeah, we're gonna take the break.
Okay, we're gonna take a break.

SPEAKER_08 (51:32):
Ten minutes you said?

SPEAKER_06 (51:33):
Like this is like class.
Oh, I'm about to get further.
I didn't exactly make her leave.
She's like, Lord.

SPEAKER_08 (51:45):
Nobody will see me.
She said, don't you?
Please don't do it.
She's like, but I'm a good guarddog.
I protected y'all from the cats.

SPEAKER_15 (51:52):
She's a wonderful guest.
Thank you for everything.

SPEAKER_14 (51:56):
Thank you for your service.
Thank you for your service.

SPEAKER_07 (52:01):
Jesus.

SPEAKER_12 (52:02):
She's a dog.

SPEAKER_03 (52:05):
She's a good dog.
She's a good dog.

SPEAKER_12 (52:09):
Alright, so with zero context.

SPEAKER_04 (52:12):
This is like the best podcast guest.
I feel like we should come back.

SPEAKER_07 (52:19):
Totally connected.
Totally.
Totally wack.

SPEAKER_14 (52:25):
So I don't know.
I don't know if seven has come.

SPEAKER_09 (52:29):
Finally.

SPEAKER_07 (52:31):
Finally.

SPEAKER_14 (52:32):
It took it it it it it took a couple of shots in um
woozoo to make me remember.
But anyway.
So so so so let's let's let'sreal quick let's let's let's
kind of like rear back to saywhat you were talking about so

(52:54):
we can get this whole Krabacleback going again.

SPEAKER_08 (52:58):
No, we were we were talking about what we were
talking about celebrity crushes.

SPEAKER_14 (53:05):
Get your pass come across.

SPEAKER_08 (53:08):
Just spit that shit out.
But when we have passes, wouldyou give your partner a pass
with their celebrity crush?
Like if they ever happen to bein the same person.

SPEAKER_14 (53:16):
Yeah, you say that now, dude.
But but the thing is, but thething is, that's just if I I
feel like I feel like it's coolfor the person, like for for for
it's easier for it to happen toa woman because a man will do
those type of things.
So if a man is horny and hewants you and you're available,

(53:39):
he's going to do it.
And so that makes it a littlebit easier for you to get to
your crust compared to megetting to mine.
But but but it's you're talkingto breakable blackness.

(54:07):
Ain't that what y'all do?
But anyway, I don't know.
Ain't that how y'all do thatshit?
I don't know.
Look, yeah, it's me.

SPEAKER_13 (54:17):
I thought it was supposed to be.

SPEAKER_15 (54:19):
Equality.
Yeah, equality.

SPEAKER_14 (54:21):
I think this is like a big thing.

SPEAKER_15 (54:24):
Yeah, this is a quack.

SPEAKER_14 (54:26):
What did you do?
Quack, quack, quack, quack.
But what I'm just trying to sayis, like, if it is just as good
as good for the goose as the isfor the gand type shit.
So I in my in my mind, I won'tfeel bad.

(54:47):
Like, if you if you got a chanceto be with your crush and I got
a chance to be with mine, hey,shout out to you.

SPEAKER_02 (54:53):
What if what if it's body?
What if you be with?

SPEAKER_04 (54:57):
That's what I'm saying.
I'm just talking about straight.
What does the past entail?

SPEAKER_06 (55:02):
You're talking about going all the way, man.
Yeah, I can't get.

SPEAKER_14 (55:07):
I'm just saying this as far as you go, I go.

SPEAKER_05 (55:12):
I guess you ain't going no fucking way.

SPEAKER_13 (55:15):
So there we go.
There we go.
There we go.

SPEAKER_06 (55:21):
It's like that's weird about me too.
Like I can do it, but you notlike that, but like even if I
like to do like an armlessflirt.

SPEAKER_15 (55:29):
Like I just wanted to.

SPEAKER_14 (55:33):
It's a two-way street.
It's a two-way street.
It's always a two-way street.
You know, you know, you know,even in the good book, right?
It even say, you know, do addthere you go.
Because you because you know,you know, if if just as much as
you would enjoy somethinghappening to you, if you were

(55:54):
sitting there watching somebodydoing it to me.

SPEAKER_15 (56:02):
You're not gonna feel the same way.
You're not gonna, you're not,you're not gonna feel the same
way.
You're not gonna feel the sameway about it.
I'm not.

unknown (56:11):
I'm not.

SPEAKER_14 (56:11):
Alright, that's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_08 (56:15):
Not to like be on your side because you're my
friend.
But I get what I'm saying, Iguess like for you, you know how
far you would go, so you feellike it's okay if I do it, but
if he doesn't, you wouldn't wantto be like, no, I would go.

SPEAKER_06 (56:26):
Yeah, you know what it is too, and I'm gonna say it.
Women make it sound so fuckingcute.
You know, if I had the chance, Iwas so fucked, Denzel.
But I'm like when a guy says manand I fucked the shit out of
Holly Berry.
It's more, it just soundsdifferent, but it is the same.

SPEAKER_14 (56:48):
Like it, like, like, like how like how it was cool as
hell when Stella got her goddamnguru back.
But when Paul gets his guruback, it's perverted.
It's perverted.

SPEAKER_08 (56:58):
I mean, that's kind of true though.
Y'all, I watched that movie forthe very first time.
I had never seen it.
I finally watched it maybe likea month ago, and I was pissed
off the whole time.
I was like, that could be mynephew when.

SPEAKER_07 (57:07):
Because what did he write 9 in the movie?
I think it was like 20.
Yeah, yeah.
I wish my child was.

SPEAKER_15 (57:12):
She was like, what, 40, 50?

SPEAKER_14 (57:14):
With a 40-something-year-old woman,
yeah.
She was 40-50?

SPEAKER_06 (57:17):
Yeah, she's about 40 something short.
And he was 20?

unknown (57:19):
I was here for it.

SPEAKER_14 (57:23):
If he wanted to, if he wanted for her.
If he wanted to go in the jungleand find a cougar that is his
motherfucking pro.

SPEAKER_08 (57:32):
I mean, that's cool, but I guess I was relating it to
my nephew.

SPEAKER_14 (57:36):
Why though?
But but life is.

SPEAKER_08 (57:37):
I think his nephew was in that situation.
I was thinking when my nephewwas 20 and he came to me like,
oh, this is my girlfriend.
She wore it.
I'm like, the fuck the hell youwant my nephew.

SPEAKER_14 (57:45):
Alright, hold up, hold on.
All right, that's so fuckingsick.
Growing up, KK, what was yourbiggest gap?

SPEAKER_06 (57:53):
Oh, honey.
You mean that I actually, ohLord, my boyfriend gonna see the
long time.
I always like oh.

SPEAKER_14 (58:00):
Put it out there on the put it.
Put it out there.
She has it.

SPEAKER_06 (58:03):
This is like they might get charges, but I was
about.
Ooh, y'all ready for this one?

SPEAKER_14 (58:09):
Yeah, that the unbreakable team was 30.

SPEAKER_06 (58:13):
Ooh.

SPEAKER_14 (58:13):
Yeah, 15 year gap.

SPEAKER_06 (58:15):
30?
Yeah.
And I would I would skip schooland he picked me up and said,
What's that?
Uh oh my god.
But that's what I'm saying.
Like, when I hear like theselike stories and stuff, and
people be like, oh, well, backthen it was different.
It kind of like, wait a minute,was I there?

SPEAKER_12 (58:39):
So let me ask you that.
Let me ask you this.
Was that do you feel like thatwas a traumatic experience?
No, not at all.
Okay, so I can ask youquestions.
Right.
Alright.
Um did you feel like it waswrong at the time?

SPEAKER_06 (58:57):
At the time, absolutely not.
Thinking back, especially nowthat I have a child, it's like,
hell yeah, that shit was wrong,but I wasn't thinking that at
the time.
I was just trying to be ground,and I hate to say like, oh, I
was being fast, but I was.
So how did you I'm sorry, goahead.
No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 (59:14):
How did you meet him?
Like in a um chat room, okay,you know, being grounded.

SPEAKER_13 (59:20):
Remember the little chat room.

SPEAKER_15 (59:22):
I was just talking about the chat room the other
day.
Um, because meet you.
You are you are connecting withJuicy Five that wants to connect
with you.
Push five if you would like toconnect with Juicy Five.

SPEAKER_14 (59:46):
Hey, what's up?
Hey, what's up?
You sound real good on themessages.
I just wanted to just sit backand just try to see if I could
go ahead and uh get you to pushthat three so we can connect one
on one.

SPEAKER_06 (01:00:01):
My minus 510.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:05):
Okay, I don't remember that at all.
Really?

SPEAKER_14 (01:00:11):
Nah, it was it was like the phone chat line.
You would call a chat line, andthen you could either get on the
open room or you could do likeone-on-one, and then it would be
like you would you would keeppushing.
It was like profile swiping.

SPEAKER_15 (01:00:27):
It was like it was profile swiping before profile
swiping.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (01:00:32):
Because it was like, fuck you, eating me.
And then you like Esau.

SPEAKER_06 (01:00:45):
I met him on the chat room.
Um as strict as my grandparentswere.
I figured out a way to do what Iwanted to do.
Yeah.
So, and I always like older men.
Like my boyfriend now, he's 57.
So you're how old?
I'm 43.
So even though that's you knowjust like.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:06):
Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_06 (01:01:07):
You're like, I always like older men.
So I don't know.
But it's like, if that was mydaughter, I'd be ready to take
kill that nigga.
But see, that's the core.

SPEAKER_14 (01:01:16):
But I was just about to say that.
That's crazy.
Because I think that to mepersonally, I think that kinda
it should not be because of howthe order of things are.
So a lot of people ask me withme having a 15-year-old
daughter, they were like, youknow, if your daughter was 16,

(01:01:38):
17, and she was dating an olderguy, I was like, it's a little
bit different if she was datinglike some immature nigga that
was this, that, and the third.
But if if she was date, if shegot to be like, let's say, like,
let's say she's 18 and she'sdating a 30-year-old guy that
has his shit together, and I wasable to vest myself to say, I

(01:01:58):
approve this nigga.
But he's got all the bullshitout the way because I know that
if she dates somebody her age,this nigga is super immature.
Yeah, he's still learning.
I know that this man right herehas a good job, his credit's
good, and I'm vesting.
Like, she might not be matureenough to realize if this

(01:02:18):
nigga's a piece of shit or not,but that's where the dad comes
in, or the big brother comes in,or the uncle comes in.
Like, somebody gotta vet thisnigga.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:27):
Yeah.
Right.
She might not even say nothing.

SPEAKER_12 (01:02:33):
At that point, is there like an age limit?
Or like, is there like an agelimit that you would say, like,
no matter, I don't care howsmart this fucking guy is.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:42):
Well, for me, that was a child, 15.
He shouldn't have been the same.
At that age, at that was why washe even on the chat line?
You know, that's probably anadult.

SPEAKER_14 (01:02:51):
Not why was he on the chat line?

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:54):
Why was I?
I get it.
But I get it.
Like, it was for kids.

SPEAKER_14 (01:02:59):
That shit was not for kids.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:00):
It was for young, it was for young adults.

SPEAKER_15 (01:03:03):
Young adult.
It was not for 15.
That wasn't.
I think it was probably had akid.
Come on, come on.
Come on.
When the thing came on.
Hi, sexy single.

SPEAKER_08 (01:03:16):
Oh man, I miss it.

SPEAKER_15 (01:03:19):
Hello.
Hello, sexy singles.
That is how it literally got on.
It didn't say hi, teens andtweens.
It said, hi, sexy singles.

SPEAKER_13 (01:03:34):
No, it's just for the hottest and twins.

SPEAKER_15 (01:03:37):
For the hottest live individuals.

SPEAKER_14 (01:03:39):
Like.
But it's already.
It said tweens for real?
No, no, no, no, no.
I was saying.

SPEAKER_15 (01:03:48):
I was saying if it did say that, then it would make
sense, but it did not say that.
It said, hi, sexy singles.
Here, here.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:56):
But you asked me if I was traumatized, James.
That's an interesting.
It's like at the time I was, butit's like now.
It's like, that was fucked.
That was like thesemotherfuckers knew better.
So it's like it is, it's sort oflike such a catch 22.

SPEAKER_14 (01:04:11):
It's like it's a catch-22.
Yeah.
But it's a catch 22.
But see, a lot of times, I andsorry.
I think I I really believe thatthere is there is an order to
things, and we let society takeorder away from family business,

(01:04:32):
right?
Like Messiah, my daughter,right?
She has B plus brothers.
And so there's not a raggedynigga.
That would be because I I put Binto the boys.
And so Messiah has wolves overher.

(01:04:57):
So that's gonna scare away thepredators.
And if they come around, they'renot gonna last long because you
don't have pussy niggas that'sgonna be like, well, shit,
that's who she dating.
Nah, nigga, I'll beat this niggaass every time.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05:12):
Her mentality is gonna be different too.
She's been around a certaincaliber of men all her life, so
she's gonna think and choosedifferently.
I wasn't around that.

SPEAKER_14 (01:05:21):
That's why I say the that's why I say the order's
fucked up.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (01:05:25):
The family structure's fucked up.
And nobody and everybody's soworried about the chicken and
the egg, right?
Everybody's so worried about whostarted the shit, who's who's
continuing the shit, instead oftrying to figure out how do we
fix this shit.
Because at the end of the day,yeah, every girl needs her
daddy.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:45):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (01:05:46):
Every girl needs her daddy, just like every nigga
needs his mama.

SPEAKER_09 (01:05:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (01:05:51):
You need to know that soft shit.
No nigga is supposed to be superhard.
No woman is supposed to be supersoft.
No woman's supposed to not knowcertain things.
Like they supposed to, like meand my daughter.
Sorry, baby, you're gonna hateme for this.
Me and my daughter even arecomfortable having casual

(01:06:12):
conversations about sex.

SPEAKER_09 (01:06:14):
Okay.

SPEAKER_14 (01:06:15):
Because in in something, don't hate me.
Something that somethingsomething even personal that we
had talked about is like, youknow, like I told her, I would
rather you, you know, if I findsomething in your room that I
ain't supposed to, right?
I would rather you explore home,feel comfortable home, than be

(01:06:38):
out here in these fuckingstreets and end up with some
weird nigga or some disease oranything.
So it starts with the home forme to be giving you a safe
space.
And as long as your safe spaceis at home, you don't have to
find that safe space anywhereelse.

(01:06:59):
So that's why when when when Ihad the opportunity to get to
raise my daughter, I was like,yo, give it to me.
Because now she has a blanketover her to wear.
She can be whoever the fuck.
And my daughter is, you'reweird.

SPEAKER_09 (01:07:15):
Yes.

SPEAKER_14 (01:07:16):
I love my anime.
I love my anime daughter.
She loves the draw.
She went through anime, sheloves the heart, but yeah, go
ahead.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:23):
Okay.
I went through my baby's phone.
I did a surprise little lookthrough.
And she was hyperventilating,like, for my privacy, please
don't look.
I was like, girl, get out of myroom.
And I locked the door, and thenshe jiggling the door.
I'm like, now you making me mad.

unknown (01:07:42):
No, I jiggle it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:43):
I found something.
You acting like a girl, stop.
So I'm going through the phone.
Time's up.
Right.
No, because I told her to bringme the phone.
And I was like, you got 10seconds to bring me that phone
because you ain't finna beerasing shit.
I know the game.

(01:08:03):
So we've been there.
Right, been there, been there.
So I was just looking for likecertain things.
I was wanting to see making sureshe ain't skipping class or
whatever.
They were saying some littlewatchy, little bit of stuff.
I'm not stupid.
I know that I'm gonna find somestuff.
So while she was out thereflipping out, I opened the door

(01:08:24):
and I said, Brooklyn, what doyou want to say to me before I
say what I want to say to you?
And then she started trying toput on the dramatic.
Now, I'm not gonna say it wasdramatics, but she was like,
I've been dealing with, youknow, depression and I said,
baby.

SPEAKER_12 (01:08:40):
Yeah.
Welcome to her.

SPEAKER_06 (01:08:46):
But I said to say that.
That's what you say.
To get on my good side becauseI'm not mad at you.

SPEAKER_09 (01:08:53):
I said I'm not mad at you.

SPEAKER_06 (01:08:55):
Right.
I said, um, I wasn't expectingto just find y'all talking about
cupcakes and shit.
I I said, I know how old youare.
I did the same thing.

SPEAKER_11 (01:09:03):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (01:09:04):
So we had a long talk that day,but it's just like you said,
like that communication.
Like don't go in there, stupidthing.
Oh my gosh, you talking aboutsex.
I just want to make sure youain't sneaking off nowhere.
I want to make sure you ain'tskipping class.
And I want to make sure yousomebody ain't forcing you to do
something you don't want to do.

(01:09:24):
And I said, I said, Brooklyn,it's nothing, nothing you can do
to make me stop loving.
So don't be like that.
I'm like, I'm not gonna killyou.
I'm gonna be mad at you, butit's it's still me.

SPEAKER_14 (01:09:40):
Right.
But the crazy the crazy thing isthat reinsurance is big.

SPEAKER_07 (01:09:47):
Yeah, it's big.

SPEAKER_14 (01:09:49):
Cause I didn't have it.
Yeah.
A lot of times you don't know ifif if your pain, you you have
something in your mind, you'llyou'll think it and you'll run
with it.
And you be like, my my daughterknow, like I tell people, they
be like, you do this around yourdaughter?
You talk about that around yourdaughter.
I said, Yeah, my daughter knowsme.
Like, yeah, if I died today, sheain't gonna guess her daddy.

(01:10:13):
She's gonna know her daddy.
And and with that being said,like, that's that's we are on
the on the same accord, right?
Through through life.
And a lot of times she can seesomething wrong with me before I
see it.
And a lot of times you need thatbecause even when I tell, I like

(01:10:36):
I was telling her, I said,sometimes I I'm happy because
she's gonna know how to dealwith a nigga that goes through
shit and be busy.
Now, I know nigga that's alwayson the phone talking about what
you're doing, what you do.
Nah, I need you to know what itfeels like to be around a nigga
that's can that's working, thatgoes through stress, that goes

(01:10:57):
through heartache, that goesthrough this.
So you be like, yeah, my dad, mydad, well, she's my dad, I ain't
moving now.
My dad needs me.
I don't need you, girl.

SPEAKER_09 (01:11:08):
But she thinks that's the thing.

SPEAKER_14 (01:11:09):
But she said, but yeah, because because I let her
move at a court with me.

SPEAKER_09 (01:11:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (01:11:14):
I don't, I don't hide nothing from her, I don't
put nothing, because you gottaknow what this shit is because
you're gonna be an adult beforeI before I I wake up.
You know, you're gonna be anadult and you gotta have to know
how to do like everyday things.
Even when I remember at onepoint in time, she was thinking,
you know, her friends and allthem, medication, medication,

(01:11:34):
medication.
I was like, girl, what do you dowhen you have to deal with the
world and you can't affordmedication?
So right now, you have thecapability of figuring life out
and not have the stress ofhaving to keep yourself up
because daddy's holding you up.

(01:11:54):
All you gotta do is figure outhow life is.
And most people gotta hold theirlife up while figuring out life,
and that shit hard as fuck,because that's what I had to do,
and I had to end up learningthat shit in the jail cell.
And by the time I came home, Iwas like, damn, I'm running
behind, and I wanted to catch upwith society, so I had to work

(01:12:16):
extra hard to try to catch upwith society.
And I was like, I'll be damnedif that be my child.
And that's a lot of times I feellike that's what we need to do
as a society.
They be like, Well, the worldfucked up.
We gonna blame it on this andwe're gonna blame it on that.
Nah, look in the mirror.
Like back to Mike.

(01:12:36):
That shit, that shit starting ahousehold.
If your household fucked up, youcan't say it's because uh uh uh
we can't get government cheese.
Don't don't blame it on we ain'tgot food stamps or we ain't got
this or we ain't got that.
Like, look at the simple shitthat you do.
You study with your kids?
Do you ask your kids how wasyour day at the end, or do you

(01:12:59):
just get into did you do yourgoddamn chores?
Yeah, yeah, do you think that'sthe way that you're you know I
mean like do like kids are realpeople too, and I'm running my
mouth.
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_06 (01:13:07):
No, but it's so funny you said that because it's
like you know, I was tellingy'all how she was going through
her moodiness and everything,and she got right back to it
after this.
But anyway, we went to the parktogether.
Well, was it Saturday?
And we was just sitting thereand she was just talking to me
and you know, opening up to meand stuff like that.
And I said, damn, I figured itout, and I love this about her.

(01:13:30):
You gonna earn my love, Heifer.
Like, you for real, like you, Idon't care how many clothes you
buy me, I don't care about whatyou cook for me, do for that's
what you're supposed to do bylaw.
She's telling me, no, I want tospend time with you.
I want you.
I want you to sacrifice yourtime with me.

(01:13:51):
Now, the next day she was rightback to her moody self, but it
still meant a lot to me.
Like, that's what she's tellingme.
She's telling me how to love.
You know, her love.
That's her love language.
That's her love language.
And I love that because she'sgonna do the same thing with a
man in her life.
Like, no, you finna earn my loveand affection.

(01:14:13):
You know, so that it was it wascool.
Yeah.
Because I was different.
I'm like, just buy me somethingand I'll try to say that's my
you know thing.
Yeah, but you gotta love it.
She's a Leo, right?
Yeah, she's a Leo, yes.
She ain't having that anytime.

SPEAKER_16 (01:14:29):
Right.

SPEAKER_14 (01:14:32):
My downfall when I was growing up is I used to feel
unloved that anybody thatactually showed me any type of
affection, I cling to them likeinstantly.
And they might have been theworst fit for me.

(01:14:52):
And they like they're like,niggas, like don't you see like
she's doing this, this?

SPEAKER_12 (01:14:58):
Can I say can I say can anyone relate?
I'll just say two words.
Uh when I was younger, this wasblind love.

SPEAKER_13 (01:15:07):
Oh, facts.

SPEAKER_12 (01:15:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 (01:15:09):
Love is blind.
No, man.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:12):
Oh, I really want to say child.
What you think is love?
It's truly.
Wait a minute, let's do it.
What was your childhood like?
Did you have any liketraumatizing?
He was a bully.
No, no, no.

SPEAKER_12 (01:15:27):
He was a bully.
He was a bully.
That was so that was sotraumatizing.
I was like, dude, I don't evenknow how to be this alpha.
Like, really?
I cannot.
Tony is my off.

SPEAKER_07 (01:15:43):
No.

SPEAKER_08 (01:15:44):
How were you?
How were you?
How was your childhood then?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 (01:15:48):
Great.
Had the best childhood.
Yep.
My childhood was so great thatnothing can top it.
And everything is just, I'm justI'm such a miserab.

SPEAKER_06 (01:16:03):
You grew up here?
In Atlanta?

unknown (01:16:07):
Or?

SPEAKER_12 (01:16:07):
Oh, I grew up in the burbs.

SPEAKER_09 (01:16:10):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_12 (01:16:13):
Child just out! Exactly whatever, whatever.
Uh I mean it was a it was a goodchildhood.
I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_08 (01:16:23):
Both parents.

SPEAKER_12 (01:16:24):
Yep.

SPEAKER_08 (01:16:26):
Well, I mean, that was the same way, both parents.

SPEAKER_12 (01:16:28):
Yes, holiday.
Yeah, yeah, all the greatthings.
Family trips and now I meanthere's nothing wrong with that.
We take a we take like a weeklytrip every year to the beach.
Or no, no, no, I'm saying ayear.
A yearly trip.
Like a week long seminar,somewhere, somewhere.

SPEAKER_11 (01:16:47):
Sunday, seminar, semi.

SPEAKER_07 (01:16:50):
How would you pretend it's a no?

SPEAKER_06 (01:16:55):
I'm in Milan, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_12 (01:17:00):
You want some company?
What's wrong with you pussies?
Like, what are you whiningabout?
I'm taking weekly trips.

SPEAKER_06 (01:17:17):
But no, you don't have to be kids.

SPEAKER_12 (01:17:19):
So once a year we would take a trip for about it,
like oh uh just a week.
And uh I went to Disney liketwice.
The Indiana Disney Bro, get it.
You got Chat GPT.
Get an all count.
The all counts are gonna be nutsif you do it.
What a little pillow.

SPEAKER_07 (01:17:50):
Don't do that in a baby shower.
You're just gonna be a littlebit more.

SPEAKER_12 (01:17:54):
These are these are these are just the shitty week.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:00):
So James, you don't need children, right?

SPEAKER_12 (01:18:03):
These are just domesticated homeless cats.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:10):
Ladies and gentlemen for the record.
James, do you need children?

SPEAKER_12 (01:18:18):
I have no children.
No.
Did you hear what I just said?
No.

unknown (01:18:23):
What did you say?

SPEAKER_12 (01:18:24):
I said, you guys are just domesticated homeless cats.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:27):
Cause you go, oh, oh.
He's answering everything aboutthe children questions.

SPEAKER_12 (01:18:33):
I just said I have no children.
No, I have no children.
I have no children.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:36):
I have no children.
That he knows of.
That he acknowledges.

unknown (01:18:41):
No.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:41):
No?
Okay.
You don't.
Oh wow.
I mean, I'm I I can write downwith him.
I still don't know if I wantchildren.
But I still think it is it takesa good person to actually say
they don't want kids.

SPEAKER_11 (01:18:53):
Not right now.
Don't have kids.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:56):
Right, right.
And don't have them and mistreatthem.

SPEAKER_14 (01:19:00):
Do you?

SPEAKER_09 (01:19:03):
For real.

SPEAKER_14 (01:19:05):
So let me ask y'all real quick since since it's a
it's a good ratio of of of uhmen and women.
How do y'all feel about todaymodern day 50-50?

SPEAKER_06 (01:19:20):
Oh wow.
Well, you got shit.
Everything is so fuckingexpensive now.
Mm-hmm.
Unless you really find a manthat now, okay, let me say this.

SPEAKER_14 (01:19:37):
I'm listening.

SPEAKER_06 (01:19:38):
All these women talking about he gonna make a
hundred K bitch.
Where are you finding him at?
Please let me know.
It's the difference between aman that makes a lot of money
and he still just wants to go50-50 with you because that's
just how he is.
Like he has the means to provideand he doesn't.

(01:19:59):
It's a difference between he'smaking, I don't know,
fifty-sixty thousand a year andhe can't really provide
everything.
So it might not even befifty-fifty.
It could be, you know what I'msaying, 64, you know what I'm
saying?
However y'all can work it out.
But don't make that man feellike he ain't shit.

(01:20:19):
Just because he's not making sixfigures and he can take or can't
take care of you.
That's not fair.
But at the same time, do I saygo out there and get a bum?
No, I'm not saying that.
You know, but be realistic.

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:34):
Be realistic.
I feel like if both people work,then both people should
contribute.

SPEAKER_07 (01:20:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:40):
But like if it's very off either way, like, you
know, then you gotta kind ofaddress that because just
because the one person, like,what if the woman is the one
that makes more?
You know, does that matter?
Or how do you figure it out?
So I feel like if one personmakes a lot more, the bill

(01:21:01):
should kind of be split a littledifferently.
Like maybe it shouldn't be 50-50because that person's 50 is your
like it's not your 50, you know,your y'all's 50 is different.
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 (01:21:12):
But you know what?
I think it's so weird that thisconversation always keeps
happening.
Yeah, right.
Whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:20):
But in particular in the black community, though.

SPEAKER_06 (01:21:22):
And let me tell you, I just see other races, it don't
even fucking matter how muchmoney the man makes.
And like, say if the man like islike white or you know, Mexican
or whatever, and he can makelike I'm so done.
He could make like he could makelike okay, maybe fifty, sixty

(01:21:42):
thousand, right?
And he get him a wife orwhatever, she'll just be like,
okay, we all make 50, 60,000.
If I want a different life or ifI want more, I'll work too.
Whereas it's almost like theclimate with black folks, it's
like he made 50, 60,000.
Oh, that nigga damn enough, youknow what I'm saying?

(01:22:02):
That broken, he can't providefor you.
You'll go with it.
But what about just getting thefamily structured together
first?
Why does it always have to beabout the money, the money, the
money, the money?

SPEAKER_14 (01:22:13):
Because sexy red talk about the money, Beyonce
talks about the money, Lottotalks about the money, Cardi B
talks about the money, NickiMinaj talks about the money.
Our community talks about it.
Yeah, and it we I that'ssomething I always keep saying
about our uh our community isthat our community does not

(01:22:34):
idolize the right folks.
We idolize, you know, the peoplethat that could put that can be
put into our lives to controlus.
And and the crazy thing is, inthe good, like, and I'm not
religious, right?
But I I take a lot of thingsfrom religious things and put it
into real life perspective.

(01:22:56):
And the funny thing is, is inbiblical terms, the devil was
reached through music, soentertainment, right?
And he damned him to hell, butthey never said that he took his
powers away.

(01:23:17):
Right?
And so it's crazy that withcertain beats, certain lyrics,
like if I'm mad and I want to gohit a lick, I'm gonna listen to
somebody like Youngboy, or I'mgonna listen to somebody like,
like, like, like, I don't know,like, I don't broke.

SPEAKER_12 (01:23:41):
Chicago drill music, you know.
It's wild because like allthroughout work, it's all it's
just like war drums, and likeand that's and that's what
they're always talking about inthe music, and I'm like, man,
that's not creating thatatmosphere through that music.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:03):
You had just broken down the other day.

SPEAKER_14 (01:24:05):
Um like I was telling I was having a
conversation with uh Seven theother day.
Seven.
Like I know I told you onceeverything's in, we good.
Right.
But um But when I was talking toSeven the other day, I was like,
I was telling her, I was like,if you ever notice, you have to
look at certain things thathappen in this world, and you

(01:24:26):
have to take your you have totake your shades off and look at
it through a different lens,right?
And so when Gangsta Rap came,because before Gangsta Rap, it
was it was uh, you know,pro-black.
Conscious and pro-black, right?
Right after that, how in thehell does it flip right after,
right?

(01:24:46):
But during that flip, did youknow that there were a whole
bunch of contracts being madefor private prisons?
And so with that contract forprivate prisons, it's like, hey,
in this contract, it says thatyou have to keep these prisons
full.
How are you going to do it?
That's what it's called.

(01:25:07):
The school to prison pipeline.
And then that is exactly whatit's called.
And that's what your favoritepeople are the ones who own most
of the uh most of the pipeline.
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 (01:25:23):
Like a lot of these companies, a lot of these big
companies, they they are like,whatever.

SPEAKER_14 (01:25:32):
Like, like, like it's very crazy.
And and and and he's he's notgonna say it because he be like,
uh, but I think that it's realcrazy, and I might get backlash
for this, right?
But I don't care.
I really don't.
This is the Unbreakable BlackMan Podcast.
Kiss my ass.

(01:25:55):
But one race or one ethnicitycontrols majority of our
entertainment pipelines.
And everything that gets pushedthrough that certain pipeline is
negativity.
Yeah, you don't see no white,like, you don't really see no

(01:26:19):
white girl pushing Cardi B'sagenda.
You don't really see no whitegirls pushing Nicki Minaz's
agenda.
You even back in the day, notreally, they they will try to,
but that's when you get Madonna.

SPEAKER_06 (01:26:34):
Or what's her name?

SPEAKER_14 (01:26:35):
You get your Iggy Azalea.
You get your Iggy Azalea.
There you go.
That's as far as you're gonnago.
Who?
Iggy Iggy Azalea.

SPEAKER_06 (01:26:45):
Who's that other girl?

SPEAKER_14 (01:26:46):
And then the Katie Perry Burby.
But but but she got f but shegot but she got famous off of
Oh, bad baby baby, whatever.
But she got, but she got, butshe is already, she got, she
came in the game as trash.
Yeah, she's gonna be a child.
She did not come outside.
She did not come, she did notcome in the game as American

(01:27:07):
sweetheart.

SPEAKER_12 (01:27:08):
She might as well she might as well have been
honey boo-boo.

SPEAKER_14 (01:27:11):
Right.
Like she did not, she did notcome in the game as well.
No one took her serious.
She did not come in the game aswhat what what's the one that
every what they would talkabout?
She she's dating some footballplayer, Taylor Swift.
She's not those people.
So of course she came in in theurban light.
If you want, like what they say,if you want to be white and you

(01:27:31):
want to go over there, you'reover there.
And we're not gonna give you thesame treatment, we're gonna
treat you like the niggas.
We're not gonna treat you likeKaty Perry.
We're not gonna treat you likeTaylor Swift, we're gonna treat
you like Hardy B.
Nick Minaj and all themotherfuckers you want to be.
But if you want to be the whiteperson that we want you to be,

(01:27:53):
we will lift you all the way upbecause we want the white
society to look at entertainmentin this way, just like Asian is
pop.
Even when they try to begangster, they're still pop.

SPEAKER_12 (01:28:09):
Yeah, they're either pop or they're like or or
they're fast and furious Asians.
Right.

SPEAKER_14 (01:28:16):
But the but the the out the outlook of entertainment
for us is the crackhead, thescammer, the the the baby mama,
the baby daddy, the uh, likeeven that's why I say even with
Tyler Perry, like I don't Idon't respect too much of what
Tyler Perry do because he paintsthe same picture.

(01:28:39):
Yeah, my nigga, good for you.
You got rich off of exploitingus.
Did you hear about what he didwith Boondocks?
No.

SPEAKER_06 (01:28:47):
Yeah, he shut them down because they made that
episode basically spoofing himto the team.
He said he would make H shitdown and they did.
That's how much power.

SPEAKER_08 (01:28:58):
But it's gonna show you how much power he had.
Atlanta too.
Didn't they do an episode ofAtlanta when he was Mr.
Chocolate?

SPEAKER_06 (01:29:17):
They definitely forgot what his name was on the
balloon dots, but it wasn'tCollin Harry.
But it was like ridiculouslylike similar like Tyrone
Peterson Skylarry.

SPEAKER_16 (01:29:37):
Skylarry along.

SPEAKER_12 (01:29:44):
He shut it down, you know.

SPEAKER_06 (01:29:46):
They stopped it, and then they tried to go back and
like still trying to do it.
And the producers was like,nigga, you can't.
Yeah, he said no.
That goes show you how muchpower he got.
But you know, you know why.

SPEAKER_12 (01:30:00):
But they really, they really, they really, they
really pulled his card.

SPEAKER_14 (01:30:04):
Some if if if if you want the culture, like there's
certain, you know, life iswaves, right?
And you could ride certain wavesand get to where you want to be.
And certain waves are goodwaves, certain waves are bad
ways.
And certain waves will get youto the same place.
But it all depends on which oneyou choose.

(01:30:25):
And to me personally, I feellike, you know, he always says
that he was homeless and he wasall this before he started his
Medea plays, right?
And I just the same thing Ithink about Tupac.
Same thing I think about Tupac.
I say this shit all the time.
He was a plant, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_06 (01:30:43):
You think so?

SPEAKER_14 (01:30:44):
I know so.
But I'm not gonna say I know so.
Because this is the unbreakableblack man.
I can't say that I know.
But hell yeah, I believe that hewas a plant.

SPEAKER_09 (01:30:55):
Tupac?

SPEAKER_14 (01:30:55):
I do.
Allegedly, he was a plant.
Allegedly.
So you mean oh, once they weredone with him, then they can't
get us now, because we said it'salleged.
So I either believe that he'snot in the United States or they
really executed him.
Oh, you think he's still alive?
I could.
Because at the end of the day,if I don't when I don't need you

(01:31:17):
no more, you need to get thefuck on.

SPEAKER_12 (01:31:19):
You know who I think.
You know who I think's stillalive?
Michael Jones.
Adolf Hitler.

SPEAKER_09 (01:31:25):
Bro, what?

SPEAKER_06 (01:31:27):
I think I think he's a hundred years old.

SPEAKER_16 (01:31:29):
He's a vampire.

SPEAKER_14 (01:31:30):
No, he is.
Right, right.
He would be over a hundred yearsold.

SPEAKER_06 (01:31:34):
Yeah.
He would be like five.
Like that.

SPEAKER_14 (01:31:36):
That was you could say, you could say you don't
think that he was executed.

SPEAKER_06 (01:31:40):
You don't think he killed it because he supposedly
unaloged.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 (01:31:46):
I gotta learn all this stuff.

SPEAKER_06 (01:31:48):
Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_12 (01:31:49):
He took cyanide pills, yeah, apparently.

SPEAKER_14 (01:31:52):
That's such a that's probably not a good but but I I
for what he did.
I I believe I I think that it'svery weird, right?
That you know, you know, justimagine me being the CIA.
And I see this guy that's in theperforming art school, and I
already have ties to his mama.

SPEAKER_06 (01:32:13):
Oh, yeah, because she was part of the whole Black
Panther and she wasada was hisgodmother.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (01:32:22):
And and they already had connections with it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:32:24):
And it's like that's too much shit though.
I want to take a nap.
We're talking about we'retalking about.
No, I'm talking about as far asI couldn't go through that if I
was, you know, him.

SPEAKER_14 (01:32:33):
Like I just, you know, it's like but have you did
you see, did you see hisperforming arts interview?
No.
But I know where he was like,Yeah, my name is Tupac.

SPEAKER_00 (01:32:45):
Oh.

SPEAKER_14 (01:32:46):
And and it's crazy that um that the world is the
way that it is, but I believethat one day that's that's how
that's how he was.

SPEAKER_16 (01:32:59):
Oh, you think you think I'm lying?
He was very, like, very.

SPEAKER_12 (01:33:06):
He was a bit sassy.
He was a little bit sassy.
A bit sassy, a bitch.

SPEAKER_06 (01:33:10):
But then he said that, oh, he turned down Quincy
Jones, but did he wait what?
Yeah, because I'm not gonna getit.

SPEAKER_14 (01:33:26):
Because because I'll be so I'll be on a Friday night.
I know like me, yeah.
God damn it.

SPEAKER_09 (01:33:32):
Let's talk about uh I'm like oh it was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:33:51):
Who's your celebrity?

SPEAKER_12 (01:33:54):
Those you can have.

SPEAKER_04 (01:33:56):
For real?
She's like, I like her.

SPEAKER_08 (01:33:57):
He was a kid, most kids act like Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (01:33:59):
Hold up, no, there's a difference between being
flamboyantly and being toopopular.
No, no, this is the actualinterview film from Spain never
really, was he ever reallygangster though?
Wasn't beefy that was like a Ithink it was like so so so so
what I'm saying is you youpushed even even with the beef

(01:34:21):
that you pushed with withBiggie, Biggie didn't even that
blind Biggie was blindsided byhis beef.

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (01:34:27):
He didn't know nothing about it, he didn't have
nothing to do with it, and he'slike, yo, I thought that we were
best friends.
Like, what the fuck happened?

SPEAKER_08 (01:34:34):
Yeah.
Right.

SPEAKER_14 (01:34:35):
So so so that was pussy.
But now just make it a lot ofthings.
I believe that's a good thing.
He's a he's a he's he's a partof it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:34:48):
He was so cute.
He was so gorgeous.
Him and D'Angelo.

SPEAKER_12 (01:34:53):
Just turn it all the way up to my.

SPEAKER_14 (01:34:56):
Yeah, it's playing.

SPEAKER_06 (01:35:04):
I think he was just in a at an artsy school.

SPEAKER_14 (01:35:07):
But what I'm but what I'm saying.
Yeah, I'll say I'll s I'll sendyou to the school.

SPEAKER_06 (01:35:13):
I just feel like he was a good one.

SPEAKER_14 (01:35:14):
I'll send y'all the full arts.
No, I will send I will sendy'all the full interview.
I will send the full interview.
But what I'm but but let me.

SPEAKER_07 (01:35:23):
Yeah, he did try to kid.

SPEAKER_14 (01:35:25):
But but but but he alright, so so you go from that
to being the most gangster.
The most gangsterous gangsterousrevolutionary to getting the
juice.
Right the juice.
Right.
But but at the Migos grew up inwhat you're doing.
But at the same time, you'repushing agendas.

(01:35:45):
You're pushing agendas.
We have private prisons and weneed niggas to act gangster.
We need niggas to get locked up.
We need niggas to sell our dope.
We're putting dope out here.
Here's the dope, here's thegangster music, here's the
gangster movies.
Yeah, here's Minister Society,here's Boys in the Hood, here's
roots from back in the day.

(01:36:06):
We're gonna put all this shitinto your mind.
We're gonna give you all thisshit so you can idolize this
shit.
Go out here and try to do thisshit, and we're gonna give you
the shit.
We're gonna keep in the CIA.
Don't forget the CIA is investedinto the in into Hollywood.
There's the CIA budget for inHollywood.
They literally have aninvestment in private prisons,

(01:36:29):
Hollywood, and music.
And we be like, Well, we don'tsee this shit.
Like, come on, man.
But we get mad at niggas likeCharleston White and and other
niggas that that just I justdon't like what he be saying,
how he talking about how he saysit.
Say it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:36:43):
No, what he says about I'm so let me say this.

SPEAKER_12 (01:36:47):
I love Charleston White.

SPEAKER_06 (01:36:49):
What?

SPEAKER_12 (01:36:50):
He's hilarious.

SPEAKER_06 (01:36:51):
Fuck that.
He says he's a big thing.
But why shouldn't you be funnywithout always talking bad about
black women?
That's why I don't understand.

SPEAKER_14 (01:36:58):
All these people that are so white people.
He talks shit about everybody.
Yeah, yeah.
But because it's hilarious.
Trigger, trigger.
That's all it is.
It's a trigger.
But sometimes you can't get madat triggers.

SPEAKER_06 (01:37:13):
Why do so many people have to why I just think,
and this is my opinion.

SPEAKER_14 (01:37:17):
So y'all didn't like Kevin Samuels, too.

SPEAKER_06 (01:37:20):
Bow, bow, bow, bow.
I just don't understand that.
Why would out of other people?
She said I'm not listening.
We should not be on theretalking about our own women like
that.
You don't see other races of mento be able to do that.

SPEAKER_14 (01:37:35):
Y'all talk dirty doo-doo about black men.
I don't we don't get up.
Women talk dirty doo-doo aboutblack men on their podcast.
On their podcast.
We tell the truth.

SPEAKER_06 (01:37:48):
But we're talking about okay.
So okay, I've been talkingdirty.
Your truth.
When you're talking about yourexperiences and dating if all
you dated was black men, you'retalking about that.
But it's another differencebetween all black men are lazy.
All black men don't take care ofthat.
No, he called black women fat.

(01:38:10):
He said that black women werelow value, black women over a
certain age, who was you don'tdo that.
Why didn't you have to put theblack women as a black man?
You could have, he could havekept it as women.
Why did you have to throw theblack in there and you're a
black person that's ignorant asfuck?
And he was trying to be black.

SPEAKER_14 (01:38:28):
But if we're talking about one, all right, so if he
would just took the black, if hewould, if if he would have took
the black off, that would havemade you accept that shit.

SPEAKER_06 (01:38:37):
That would have made me less offended as a black
woman.
Hell yeah! Because if you justtalking about dating in general,
keep it at that.
But when you make your coreaudience from bashing black,
like that makes sense.
And you're making money off andyou're also black.
You came from a black woman.
Like crazy.
Yeah, not only are you bashingus, he also got on there putting

(01:39:00):
other races of women on apedestal.
He would get on there and say,Oh, you don't see Becky out
there gaining weight and allthat, but it is fat Becky's
every fucking way.
And he was putting them on apedestal.
But when he talked down aboutus, that's booze.

SPEAKER_14 (01:39:14):
But when he when he gave a but when he gave a scale,
he gave a scale of black women.
He never gave a scale of outsidea black race.

SPEAKER_05 (01:39:22):
What do you mean?

SPEAKER_14 (01:39:23):
Like when, you know, like if he would compare a woman
to the scale, like one, two,three, four, five, six, seven,
he would say Kelly Rowland was a10.
Yeah, he did.
He would say Rihanna was a nine.

SPEAKER_06 (01:39:35):
But he didn't do this with these white women.
He said that you were, and Ididn't mean to control, but he
did also say this that Europeanfeatures were considered
beautiful by some scientificbullshit study that he said that
he looked at that EuroEurocentric was considered more
beautiful than African features.
He said that too.
What kind of shit is that?

SPEAKER_14 (01:39:55):
So I'm saying you don't get on there and you say
he's a self-hater.
So it's not, it's not reallyI'll cheers to that.
I think, I think, I think, andI'm not trying to offend I'm I'm
I'm playing devil's advocate,right?
Because I I love my black women.
So don't don't.

SPEAKER_06 (01:40:11):
Yeah, I don't I don't think that you I would
leave.

SPEAKER_14 (01:40:17):
But but I just I just look I just look at it like
you know like if if if if a if aif a woman like for me I have a
friend uh of mine and one dayshe came to me and she dogged me
the fuck out.
Cause she was like, you you youalways say you wanna woman.

(01:40:39):
She's from Africa, so I'm I'mI'm I'm giving this I'm giving
this I'm giving this shit likeyou wanna woman, but you don't
you don't even dress like youcare.
You don't dress up, you don'thave no jewelry, you don't have
nothing, you don't smell good.

(01:40:59):
And and like she was handing me,she was handing me the business.
And I was like, I could be Icould I could be I could be I
could be sensitive, I could besensitive about it and be like
her delivery was fucked up, butI wanted to hear the message.
Fuck the delivery, let me hearthe message.

SPEAKER_06 (01:41:19):
But that's one woman talking to you, not a man on a
national platform generalizingyou and all other women.
That makes it's basically likemaking you feel like you're at
the bottom of the Tony Pole, andthis is what you have to accept.
And that's you don't do that.

SPEAKER_14 (01:41:38):
It's not really, it's and and like I said, I'm
playing devil's advocates.
Don't don't don't get too hardinto what I say, right?
Do it cut his mic off.
But I think that hard truths arethe right truths.

SPEAKER_06 (01:42:00):
Everything he was saying was true.
That was his opinion.
That was his opinion that hetried to push off as truth.

SPEAKER_12 (01:42:06):
But hey, listen, I I know we've only been talking for
like what an hour or two.
You don't have to settle forwhatever you think you have to
settle for.
Like you can always work towardswhatever you want.
Hey, you got it.
Like, you're cool people.
You can do it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:42:24):
Oh, here we go.
But what I'm just saying, I justwish and I feel where he's
coming from.
Sade.

SPEAKER_09 (01:42:36):
Did you say you had on a side shit?

SPEAKER_12 (01:42:38):
Sade?
No, I did not do that.
You said that.
I didn't say that.

SPEAKER_06 (01:42:43):
But no, I'm just like, why do we?
It's like the more that that'sput out there, and especially
for like the younger generationand stuff, they don't need to
hear that.
I don't want them to beprogrammed to think white women
ain't visible, you know, becauseBrooklyn's looking at my
daughter.
She's looking at that kind ofstuff, you know.
She knows better.

(01:43:03):
But you know, what about for thegirls who don't know better?
What about for the girls who Igotta, you know, they make fun
of little Kim or whatever.
But do you know what she said inthe interview?
She said that she startedgetting the surgery because all
the men that cheated on hercheated on her with like the
Pamela Anderson looking right.
So she Yeah, she said that.
So she was like, oh, I gottalook like this to be desired.

(01:43:26):
And now look, she looks and I Ilove Lil' Kim, but she looks
like a cat.
Because she was trying tomanipulate herself to fit what
they said was good looking.

SPEAKER_08 (01:43:36):
I always thought she was so pretty.

SPEAKER_06 (01:43:37):
I always thought she was so pretty when she first
came out.

SPEAKER_12 (01:43:40):
But oh, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You said you said Lil' Kim?
Yeah, but she looks like thegremlin from Leprechaun.

SPEAKER_09 (01:43:55):
She didn't always look like that.

SPEAKER_12 (01:43:57):
Sorry, I but yeah, I'm not sure.
I thought she was fine too atone point.

SPEAKER_14 (01:44:03):
Yeah, she was But listen, I I think that's not the
leaks.
This is this is this is at thepoint to where I kind of do feel
like the chicken and the eggtype thing.
Cause I really believe that whenyou don't get that type of love
from the beginning and you chaseit for so long, you start to

(01:44:26):
question your own ability andyour own looks and your own
things.
And once you start to questionit, it don't matter about what
the outside is, you start tointernalize that shit, and you
start to make that shit thecrust of your fucking existence.
And that's when you start to dothese things.
It takes a strong, like I'll saythis, it takes a very strong

(01:44:51):
person to live in this cruel assfucking world.
Yeah.
Even before but but even youknow, we say we say that shit
about social media now, butbefore social media, it was
school.
Before school, it was scrolling.
Before scrolling, it was thetownship saying that you was a
fucking witch.

(01:45:12):
Like it's it's always it'salways gonna be something.
And it takes that person that'sjust, you know, the per like I,
you know, what made me, and I'masay this on on podcast, what
made me change how I was was Istarted to idolize how my cousin

(01:45:34):
was.
My cousin was an asshole, and hegot off on shit because he was
honest and he was an assholeabout it, and he just said I
didn't want to do shit, or Idon't want to do this, or I'm
this, or I don't like this, or Ithat, and it's just like shit,
it's respected.
Whatever it is, it is what itis.

(01:45:55):
And I'm like, look, at thispoint in time, a lot of these
folks need to be that way withanything, with life, period,
even with with with being aparent, with dealing with
relationships, with dealing witha friendship, anything.
And we get lost in that shit alot of times because we're
trying to be, I don't know, Idon't know how we can say what

(01:46:19):
we're trying to be like.

SPEAKER_06 (01:46:20):
I wanted to get back to the so like kind of like
Segway and Pat to I want to geteverybody a thing, oh shoot, I
don't know, I did so good to myediting.
I'm so sorry to what Salmon wassaying.
I want to go down the line whereeverybody thinks about just

(01:46:42):
50-50 relationships, you know,in general.
And like nowadays, like oh mygod, yeah.

SPEAKER_15 (01:46:50):
I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_12 (01:46:54):
Reverse, reverse.

SPEAKER_06 (01:46:56):
I really want to get like the final consensus on that
from everybody.

SPEAKER_04 (01:47:00):
I just I want to start down there.
And then we come down.
Is it how we feel about itbecause of our current situation
or how we would prefer it if wecould have both.
Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_06 (01:47:12):
Go ahead, James.

SPEAKER_12 (01:47:14):
No low contendre.
No, I don't want to get intothis conversation.

SPEAKER_09 (01:47:25):
Trigger.

SPEAKER_12 (01:47:26):
No, no, no, I'm not.
No, no, it's not that.
I just so do you have a I've hadit before.
I've had this conversationbefore.
We've talked about it.
I just don't want to do itanymore.

SPEAKER_06 (01:47:42):
Gemini's can never just answer the question.

SPEAKER_12 (01:47:47):
That's correct.
I can never just answer aquestion.

SPEAKER_04 (01:47:52):
Well, alright.
So currently.

SPEAKER_12 (01:47:56):
That being said, I agree with 5050.
Okay.
Yeah, 50-50 is good.
Yeah, I think it's great.

SPEAKER_06 (01:48:01):
He said I think it's great.
But do you okay?
No.

SPEAKER_14 (01:48:06):
I want to get deep, but you want to say that the
shallow ends.

SPEAKER_06 (01:48:09):
And I'm gonna say this because I'm gonna I I don't
want to take a but this is wherethe little conundrum comes in.
Do you think it's great becausefor a selfish reason, or do you
think it's great just becauseit's fair for both people?
I think it depends on that too.
Because it's the intention.

SPEAKER_12 (01:48:25):
Alright, if I'm being serious, I think that if
if you find someone that uh youcare about or whatever, and if
you want to make it work, youmake it work.
If it has to be 50-50, if it hasto be 730 70 30 sometimes,
whatever.
You make it work.
If it's just about money, uh gofuck yourself.

(01:48:48):
Yeah.
Stick it up your ass.

SPEAKER_07 (01:48:51):
But see, that was I mean, you should have that was
honest.

SPEAKER_12 (01:48:55):
No, no, no.

SPEAKER_07 (01:48:57):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_12 (01:48:58):
That's where I'm at.
That's my that's where I'm at.

SPEAKER_09 (01:49:02):
Okay.

SPEAKER_12 (01:49:02):
That's just where I'm at right now.

SPEAKER_04 (01:49:05):
So, um day.
That's what you Beyonce, please.

SPEAKER_14 (01:49:12):
Man, I forgot about that song, but telling things.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:15):
That's a hot song.
That was boomerang.
Boomerang soundtrack.
Seven holes.

SPEAKER_14 (01:49:22):
Hey.

SPEAKER_05 (01:49:23):
Her sisters were in the song.

SPEAKER_14 (01:49:26):
I can't take it, don't take it, can't take it no
more.
I had about enough for you.
I'd rather be on my yes.
I'd rather be on.

(01:50:00):
You know what, you know what'sfunny?
I forgot who who had brought itup to Tony Braxton.
She was like, oh my god, I wantto play all your songs at my
wedding.
She was like, hold up, no, why?
She was like, all my songs areheartbreak songs.
She was like, you don't wantthat at your wedding.
She was like, oh, but I justlove your music.

(01:50:20):
Like, yeah, that does kind ofmake sense.
Why would you want should havebrought you to me last night?

SPEAKER_13 (01:50:31):
Like, she might be right.

SPEAKER_04 (01:50:35):
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, like, so I I just feellike I don't ever want nobody.
Then this is like your cousin.
Um, so his cousin was on thepodcast.
And I don't want nobody to everhave like power to put me out
nowhere.
So yeah, we're gonna both pay.
I'm sorry, because some of thisis mine and whatever of it is

(01:50:58):
yours, like we'll figure thatout.
But of course, okay, so that'show I currently feel as a
working woman that I don't wantto be forever.
So if it was like my perfect,like what I want, and you know,
when I see the picture, I don'twant to work.
I'm over it, support me, butlike I can't.

(01:51:19):
I can't be nothing but me, soit's gotta be the me that you
met and that you see.
So then he gotta like, it's we,you know.

SPEAKER_12 (01:51:27):
So what what is the what is the whole push to be
like some big powerful woman?
It's like the most powerfulthing you can be is a mother.

SPEAKER_06 (01:51:40):
Yeah, I never went.
You mean as far as like theworking and all that, that was
something I never endorsed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to make it very clear.
And I and that it's funny hesaid it, because we were all
used women, excuse me, Beyoncefucked up a lot of shit for us.
I never wanted to be noindependent woman for the
record.

SPEAKER_14 (01:51:59):
Well, actually, I wanted to actually actually
blame that shit on TLC.
Yeah.
Because they wrote the songs forDestiny's Child, a lot of those
songs.

SPEAKER_06 (01:52:10):
Yeah, I never advocated for that.
I would like the record to showI always wanted to be a
stay-at-home wife and just havekids.

SPEAKER_14 (01:52:18):
Shouldn't girls grow up in city girls, and city girls
for the new new age shit.

SPEAKER_06 (01:52:23):
That's that's prostitution right now.

SPEAKER_14 (01:52:27):
Like, god damn.
For real.

SPEAKER_04 (01:52:30):
But shouldn't girls grow up with like interests and
talents and dreams.
You can have that goal.

SPEAKER_15 (01:52:36):
So so And then beg later on to say, I don't want to
do none of this shit.

SPEAKER_07 (01:52:41):
Wait a minute, that's not begging.

SPEAKER_08 (01:52:42):
But that also goes back to when we were younger.
Look at the always a womanwaiting to be saved by the
plant.
Yes, getting a big damsel indistress.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (01:52:53):
That's why, that's why Snow White and that's why
Snow White flopped.

unknown (01:52:57):
You sound silly.

SPEAKER_14 (01:52:58):
Because they tried that, because they tried to veer
from that shit.

SPEAKER_06 (01:53:01):
Yeah, they pushed the narrative wrong.
It should have been the prizethat the prince was like picking
out that the princess pickedhim, or he actually acquired the
princess, where we were taught,like, no, he's gotta choose you.
So you gotta work for make surehe chooses you, make sure you
stay look a certain way, makesure you do this, make sure so
he choose so we found our worthin being chosen by a man.

SPEAKER_14 (01:53:25):
But that's what it is.
And then you end up with thebiggest thing.
That's what it is back in theday.
So, so so so so like if if wecould erase all this
ratchetness, right?
I would value you for for youwho you are.
Are you a few?
But but but but but but but butbut but you are a flower in the
field that has never beentouched.

(01:53:47):
And you will be my flower.
Or whatever you want me to callif I want you a can of tuna can
of tuna?
Bro.

SPEAKER_07 (01:53:56):
I ain't no tuna now.

SPEAKER_15 (01:53:59):
She's a weed.

SPEAKER_07 (01:54:02):
Like shit.

SPEAKER_15 (01:54:03):
You try to give her a good name and she's like what
the what the what the fuck youmean I'm pure?
What the fuck?
What the fuck you mean I'm pure?
Bitch.
I got all over me, nigga.

SPEAKER_06 (01:54:20):
No, no, no.
Well, I'm just sitting, here wego with the double standard.
Why is women we gotta be sittingup there like, really, okay, you
40 years old and you just 100%pure?
No, but me can go out there andscrew everything extra for kids.

SPEAKER_09 (01:54:35):
Can I respect?
Can I get to breath?

SPEAKER_15 (01:54:44):
Can I can I can I respond though?
Catch your breath.
Catch your breath.
In real life.
It ain't got no alcohol lemon.
It ain't got no alcohol lemon.
Talking about some sympialemonade for lemon.

(01:55:07):
It's her throat parts.
Yeah, we gotta always do that.

SPEAKER_14 (01:55:11):
You need to give her a little sugar.
But nah, for real though, butfor real.
I I I really I really do believethat I think the best, I think
the best situation was when bothparties tried to remain pure.
So when I connected with you andyou connected with me, we could

(01:55:34):
both explore together and findout what best works for us
before all of us sit here likeif if male or female, if I had a
thousand experiences, I'm gonnatry to make that one person have
those a thousand experiences inone.
And that's unfair.

(01:55:55):
You don't get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 (01:55:57):
I get what you're saying, but I guess not for me,
and I haven't had a thousand.
Let me put that on the record.
I have not had a thousandexperiences, but with each
experience was different for youknow the connection with that
person.
Like now, like when I'm with myboyfriend, you know, special for

(01:56:20):
us.

SPEAKER_14 (01:56:21):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:56:23):
So okay, he just thinks about Bob But do you get
understanding it's like a minushis interests?

SPEAKER_12 (01:56:35):
Right everything's great about him, minus the
things that he likes to dowithout me.

SPEAKER_06 (01:56:43):
You know, minus his interests and passions, you
know.
But now I am working.

SPEAKER_12 (01:56:49):
Minus the things that keep him alive.

SPEAKER_06 (01:56:52):
So speaking of this, so do y'all really bel shut up.
Do y'all really believe in soulties?
Like that whole, like, if youslept with one person and you
and you sleep with somebodyelse, then you know all the
spirits that that person sleptwith, you bringing it to the
other person.
Y'all believe in all the things.

SPEAKER_12 (01:57:08):
I think that there's a I think that's a surgery
exchange.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (01:57:12):
Science scientifically they say that,
you know, when you're having sexwith somebody and you're rubbing
skin with each other, you'reconsistently swapping DNA
samples with each other.
And especially for the femalethat holds that shit.
And it starts to be to where,you know, each partner, each

(01:57:32):
partner that, each partner thatyou have, you get you get to
store that person's shit.
And that's why they, you know,they they made a joke about it.
And they was like, you know,sometimes when you have, you
know, a baby with somebody, andyou're like, damn, he looked
like such and such.
But even when you have a bloodtest, it is this nigga's baby,

(01:57:53):
but it looks like this nigga.
And a lot of times it's becauseof that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:57:59):
And I think we absorb the energy of everybody
we've come across.
So I do believe in the soul tiesthing, but I think like the
direct soul ties with the personthat you're sleeping with.
But of course, they are a sum ofall the energy they've ever, you
know, so you kind of are, butyou know, it's like it's like
through that person.

(01:58:20):
But um, you know, so that's whylike, you know, I think with
sex, like it's it's it getsdeep.
And some people like to thinkit's not deep, but it gets deep.
It gets deep.

SPEAKER_06 (01:58:33):
I can only speak like I have never you know, when
I was younger, yeah, we all didour thing, but I was always the
one who had with feelings.
Like I cannot just screwsomebody, you know what I'm
saying?
Especially like on a regularbasis, and they just mean
nothing to me.
Like, I I just can't do that.
So, like if somebody were tocheat on me, it would hurt me

(01:58:55):
more.
Cause I'm like, damn, likethat's incident.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
You took off your clothes, youhad a chance to say, I don't
want to do this.
And you did that's how I wouldlook at it.
Whereas like a guy was justlike, I just I just fucked her.

SPEAKER_14 (01:59:14):
Right, but right, but I I think that I think in in
you know, say, you know, I I Ireally do believe that when it
comes down to a woman being thethe carrier of a child, that
y'all do have connection withwho you're carrying.
Because it is not uh, you know,us carrying, but y'all are

(01:59:39):
carrying the seed of a man.
Like no matter how, you know,well, we had the baby.
No, you carried the baby.

SPEAKER_06 (01:59:47):
Ooh, wait a minute.
No, we we we brought a soul.
I brought a soul into thisworld.
I carried a soul.

SPEAKER_14 (02:00:00):
You nurtured it to terminate.
Right, right.
No, the government gave you thatpower.
The government gave you thatpower.

unknown (02:00:14):
Way back in the day.

SPEAKER_06 (02:00:16):
I never would have.
I'm just saying I would nevermeet people.
I'm tipsy.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (02:00:27):
But what about it?
But but I I think, all right,two, two things.
Two things, two things, twothings, two things.
Create.
So ties.
I think two I got on a minute.
Create create create.
Yeah, it's like I think I thinkI think create and life should
not be held to the point towhere we can make jokes about
just getting rid of life.

SPEAKER_06 (02:00:48):
Yeah, that's why I was like, let me stop.
Yeah, so let me.

SPEAKER_14 (02:00:52):
And then and then part two of that, you you you
hold the baby to turn.
The placenta is from the man.
In the sperm cell, the seed thatcreates is from the man.
Right?
And so there are two ties tothat shit.
It's never just a singular tieto it.

(02:01:13):
But anyway.

SPEAKER_06 (02:01:14):
Um What are we talking about?
50-50.

SPEAKER_14 (02:01:18):
Yeah, we were talking about.

SPEAKER_06 (02:01:19):
We went from 50-50 to placenta.
So can we can we talk about it?

SPEAKER_14 (02:01:24):
I feel like 50-50, it should be 50-50 because I
think that everybody hasindividual dreams and goals.
Right?
And if that person, like let'ssay uh seven, worked her ass off
to get to where she's at, sheshould not have the subject to
take care of me and put herdreams and goals to the side.
Right?
And I feel that same way.
Like if I deal with somebody, Idon't like I love to buy

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expensive stuff to dopodcasting.
And I like to do differentthings.
And if I had to sit here andhave to take care of somebody
24-7, that would make medepressed.
Because I don't get to do thethings that make me have fun no
more.
I'm sitting here worrying abouttaking care of little baby and
and little C note and and Mama Dbecause you know, I'm just

(02:02:11):
saying, but 50-50.

SPEAKER_04 (02:02:15):
So what if you what if you made like a lot, a lot, a
lot, a lot, a lot of money?

SPEAKER_14 (02:02:20):
If I'm at if but then out then that it would be
different.
But we're two averageindividuals that we don't make a
lot of money.

SPEAKER_06 (02:02:33):
But it just seemed like back then it wasn't that
and we were going through civilrights and getting our asses
kicked, and they still were menthat wanted to be head of the
household and be because we hadto.

SPEAKER_14 (02:02:44):
You couldn't even get a good job, you couldn't
even get a decent job back inthe day.
Women couldn't get decent jobsback in the day.
So you had you.
So now that we can.
Oh shit.
Yeah, fuck a nigga.
That's literally how y'all are.
That is literally how y'all actnow.

SPEAKER_04 (02:03:00):
That is literally act like that.

SPEAKER_07 (02:03:02):
I don't.
Right?
I don't either.

SPEAKER_12 (02:03:05):
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Can you give me your uh a simpleversion of what you're talking
about?
Okay, so for an idiot, right?
For me.

SPEAKER_14 (02:03:14):
So, so, so all the way back, let's say even from
when they started giving SectionA.
Right.
And and started giving rights towomen, and started giving
incentives to women, especiallywomen with children.
Because women with children areconnected to men.
And with that being said, thatthey have every incentive in the

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world to say, fuck a nigga, fucka man, fuck the man, fuck the
man, fuck the man.
To the point to where y'all areso capable, y'all get good jobs.
Even though they would say,well, we don't get paid good
enough.
Y'all make good money compared,like we're talking about
everyday niggas in the blackcommunity.
Black women make decent fuckingmoney.

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They are either nurses, RNs,LPNs, they either work in in
some um in some uh uh uhcorporate building, federal
building, or anything that canget the uh air flight control, I
don't give a fuck what it is,but they got good jobs and they
try to say that they don't.
A lot of these guys out here arepushing pennies.

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And if they are pushing penniesand they got a little money,
they're paying child support andthey're broke again.
You know, so it's a lot ofthings that's holding the that
person behind, but there's a lotof things that incentivize
fucking like basically sayingfuck us.
And even the music says fuck us,the TV says fuck us, the movie

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says fuck us, Tyler Perry saysfuck us, everybody says fuck us.
Yeah, of course.
But that's but that's why hewants women to hate us.
Where do we have to run to?
Another nigga?
You got me fucked up.
But I mean, but that's how thesociety has.

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But but the every but theeveryday woman, that's why I say
it's it's a tug and pull becausethe everyday nigga don't feel
like what they say on TV.
Okay, now everyday woman don'tfeel the same way.
Most most most men want a goodwoman, but they try to follow
what they see on TV.

SPEAKER_06 (02:05:26):
Okay, but let me ask you this.

SPEAKER_14 (02:05:28):
That's what's good.
That's what's that's that'sstick with it.

SPEAKER_12 (02:05:34):
That's called programming.
Yeah, right.
That happens a lot.
Yep, conditioning.

SPEAKER_14 (02:05:40):
That happens a lot.

SPEAKER_04 (02:05:41):
It's on purpose.

SPEAKER_14 (02:05:43):
On purpose all communities.

SPEAKER_04 (02:05:44):
It's on purpose.

SPEAKER_14 (02:05:45):
If if the man's not in the house, the boy can be
rambunctious.
And if the boy's rambunctious,he gets in that pipeline.
The minute he's in thatpipeline, he's my prisoner.
And even though that he's aprisoner, do y'all know even
with the 13th Amendment, itmeans that you're free.
But when you get locked up, youare back in slavery.

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You are back in slavery.
So if we put your child in thepipeline because you don't have
the nigga to check this nigga,you don't have that motherfucker
that he fears.
He don't fear mama, but he fearsdaddy.
But mama don't respect him,nobody respects him, so how the

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fuck he gonna respect him?
So he sees every man like nigga,fuck you, nigga.
I'm a man.
No, nigga, you a little boy.
And you ain't never got checkedby a real man because your mama
saying you the man of the house,nigga, you a fucking boy.
And we don't have that no more.
This is an unbreakable black manmoment.

SPEAKER_07 (02:06:51):
Let's talk about something more like this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wanna use it.

SPEAKER_14 (02:06:58):
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_15 (02:06:59):
I just wanted to say yes.

SPEAKER_07 (02:07:01):
Billy.

SPEAKER_09 (02:07:02):
Billy Allen Edit.

SPEAKER_12 (02:07:07):
I got you.
Did you already say remember?

SPEAKER_08 (02:07:13):
But you go.
Let's finish out the the 50-50.
Did you did you say you wentwell?
I'll say for me, um, growing up,my parents, they had a joint
account.
Um, granted, my dad made morethan my mom, but they put all
their money into that, and thenthat's how they paid the bill.
So I don't know if that'sconsidered 50-50 or 50 or not.

(02:07:35):
But I feel like people shouldjust do what the fuck works for
their relationship.
Yeah, it's called a partnership.

SPEAKER_10 (02:07:41):
That's just what it's called, right?

SPEAKER_08 (02:07:43):
I have no problem with 50-50.
Yeah.

unknown (02:07:45):
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (02:07:45):
I don't know.
My thing is it was like, youknow, my grandmother, my
grandparents raised me.
My grandmother's very old schooland crazy.
But she always used to make mefeel like if a guy didn't
provide for you, if he didn't dothis and you stupid.
If he didn't have his own place,it was just like in my brain.
So, like, even now, like, we'renot doing 50-50.

(02:08:08):
He pays more than what he shouldif you want to really be fit.
Because I'm the one with the carnote and the car is saying he
still contributes anyway.
But I still be feeling like,man, if he's not paying all the
rent, am I being dumb?
Am I being used?
No.
That's just what she wouldinstill into me.
And then at the same time, shewas coming up when eggs were

(02:08:31):
like 50 cents for 2015.

SPEAKER_08 (02:08:34):
But to piggyback on what you said, Seven, like, I
wouldn't want to be in arelationship where the man is
paying for everything.
Because I'm like, at any minute,he could leave me, and then I'm
like, oh, so it's like notcontribute to something.
So I'm okay with it.
But see, I'm with I wouldn'thave I don't want to be with
someone where I have that fearthey would.
I guess it's just me.

SPEAKER_14 (02:08:54):
But if you was a woman working.
But if you but if you was if youif you was a woman working and
not paying the bills, how wouldyou not have a nest egg?

SPEAKER_06 (02:09:06):
Yeah, because my mom shouldn't have be putting money
to the side.

SPEAKER_12 (02:09:09):
But then like, and once you getto like, you're not no one's
just moving in willy-nilly withjust anyone.
Exactly.
Once you get to the point whereyou're moving in with someone,
there has to be some type of.

SPEAKER_09 (02:09:24):
Yes.

SPEAKER_12 (02:09:25):
So it's either gonna either you're destined to fail
or you're destined to make it.

SPEAKER_08 (02:09:30):
Very rarely.
And even if you're notcontributing financially, you're
still taking care of the house.

SPEAKER_06 (02:09:34):
Yeah, but I just my dream.

SPEAKER_12 (02:09:39):
Like, if my man could just be like, but no,
like.

SPEAKER_06 (02:09:54):
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (02:09:55):
I'm sorry, go ahead.
I'm sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 (02:09:57):
But no, no, my real.
Like, like if he could just takecare of the main thing.
I just want to rest.
And, you know, and just like ifI work, it's because I want to
work, you know, I'm like umcontributing stuff, like you
said, to the house.
Like, oh, I'm decorating, orwhen we go on a trip, you know,
I'll help us with this.
So I just want to keep, youknow, my hair and you know,
nails done and stuff like that,my stuff for the that kind of

(02:10:20):
stuff.
I don't want to feel like if Idon't go to work, we're gonna be
live living under a bridge typeof thing.

SPEAKER_14 (02:10:27):
Oh my god, when I come home from my hard day of
work, I would love for my feetto get rubbed and my food would
be fixed.
Oh my god, when I wake up in themorning, I would love for
breakfast to be already cookedfor me.
And my aren't my clothes to beironed, and I would love for a
bag rub after long days that Ihave.
But both are far-fetched.

SPEAKER_06 (02:10:46):
That's a little far-fetched, but it I still
think.

SPEAKER_14 (02:10:54):
We just said, but that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 (02:10:57):
You want me to work the nine to five minutes or do
that?

SPEAKER_14 (02:10:59):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm saying that if I was thefull, if I was the full bread
provider.

SPEAKER_06 (02:11:05):
Because I still want to get full provisions.

SPEAKER_14 (02:11:07):
I don't know.
But what is it?

SPEAKER_12 (02:11:13):
This is not an organ trail.

SPEAKER_09 (02:11:15):
Like, what are you calling the phone?

SPEAKER_12 (02:11:19):
I just need to get my provisions.

SPEAKER_06 (02:11:25):
I mean, but can I put all jokes aside?
Like, when I do those things,it's not just cause I I'm doing
it because I love you.
Number one.
I don't ever want to feel likeyou a pimp and I'm your whole
type of thing.
I'm doing it, and I hope thatyou're providing for me because
you love me.
Yeah.
And you love our family.
So I feel like it sounds corny,but I feel like if that's the

(02:11:47):
foundation, then it's gonnawork.
I feel like as long as true loveis really the foundation, in any
percentage, it should work.
And y'all gonna try to make itwork because guess what?
If it's true, I'm not gonnaworry that you're being selfish
and try to hold back from it.

SPEAKER_04 (02:12:04):
So I kind of think the conversation should start
with like, what's your goals?
What's your goals?
And you talk about that, and sothen you decide, all right, so
we're both gonna work toward ourgoals, and we want to get to a
certain place to be able to do Athrough Z.
Once we're there, like, youknow, what's our plan?
Like, can I I want to stopworking?

(02:12:25):
Cause we're we're here, and youknow, if you don't, or or maybe
I don't work a full-time job,but I still do my passion and
make money off of that.
Right.
Because I still want to dosomething, but like I just feel
like that's the conversation,it's the goals first.
If you ain't got no goals andshit, but then again, that
night, that man, nine nine nine,or like whatever, but it's

(02:12:48):
whatever works for y'all.

SPEAKER_14 (02:12:51):
I said my hand was resting.
I was just playing.
But but let me ask y'all this,ladies.
Let me ask y'all this, right?
I can't find a job, right?
I'm a guy.

(02:13:11):
I can't find a job.
Nobody wants to hire me, but Icook, I clean up the house, I
take care of the kids, I makesure they get home, they do the
do the homework, I make sureeverything's done.
But you made way more money thanme.
And so you're the provider.

SPEAKER_04 (02:13:33):
I would so do that, like, because the life that I
currently live looks nothinglike that every other week.
So I can't, I can't even really,you know.
But to to be a fool, like aworking, and I gotta be the mom,
and I gotta do the best, and Igotta do the homework, and I
gotta do the clothes, and Igotta do, you know, and then I

(02:13:55):
gotta, here's me too, I gotta dothat, and then here's you.
So I would much rather somebodytake all the extra stuff and
handle it so that I can like,you know, do my thing if it's
that situation where yeah, Imake a lot more, so it just
makes sense.
Like, why would I give up thejob?

SPEAKER_06 (02:14:12):
Because then I we gotta get a give a- But do you
want it to be like this is justa temporary thing or this is
just how he?

SPEAKER_12 (02:14:18):
You know that's what I was just thinking.
And she said, I just want totake it and give it all to them.
And it's like, well, this is not50-50.

SPEAKER_08 (02:14:26):
So but but are you are is the guy are you currently
like are you looking for a jobor is it just kind of oh I'm
gonna stay at home dad forever.

SPEAKER_14 (02:14:42):
I'm on the computer looking.
I'm on I'm on the computerlooking.

SPEAKER_07 (02:14:52):
Look at what?
Looking at the casting cough.

SPEAKER_14 (02:15:03):
But no, no, no, no.
But look, but so I'm asking I'mI'm asking that question, I'm
I'm saying this shamelessly,right?
I'm saying this shamelessly.
So when I first came home fromuh I I used to be locked up, you
know, at one point in time,right?
And so when I got home frombeing locked up, it was very

(02:15:26):
difficult for me to find a job,right?
Which is and and and dumb ashell as I could be sometimes, I
got married three months afterbeing released.
So I don't, I don't know.
I don't know.
No judgment.
So my daughter's mother, youknow, we cool, but that shit was

(02:15:46):
crazy.
But um, but we it lasted for 10years and we were struggle
buddies, you know.
Um but in our struggle, we hadtimes where I would have a job
she didn't.
She had a job, you know, it justwent back and forth.
But then she grasped and shestarted to be able to, she got a

(02:16:11):
job, and she started to be ableto like grow herself.
Right?
When I met her, she already hadtwo kids.
And we didn't have a kidtogether.
But I helped her and I alwayslike helped her with her kids,
so she didn't have to have thatburden.
And so when she had to staylate, and when she had to like

(02:16:32):
go out of town, or when she hadto do whatever she had to do,
she didn't have to worry abouthome and she could pursue her
career.
So that's why I was asking thatquestion just to see what y'all
would say, because sometimesthat situation blesses you at
the same time.
It all depends on how and whoyou get, because some guys will

(02:16:53):
use that and use it and fuckthings up.
Yeah.
Like I I used it as by the timethat she got home, and she could
vouch for it.
This shit's gonna be on fuckingthingy thingy.
But by the time that she gothome, food was cooked, her kids
didn't watch TV during the week.

(02:17:14):
I made them read.
And we went outside together.
And everything, the laundry,everything was done right, and
all her friends used to pick onthat shit.
But in the midst of it, she wasable to get herself to where she
wanted to be in life.
You know, and I don't I don'tever say that it's it's because

(02:17:37):
of me.
But I know what it's like whenshe would come home stressed
out, and I'm like, yo,everything's handled, so go in
the room and go finish yourshit.
You know?

SPEAKER_04 (02:17:51):
And I have I like that.

SPEAKER_06 (02:17:53):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 (02:17:54):
I have a mentor at work um like that.
Like, she she's like a seniorvice president, like I'm sure
they make a a lot of money.
And her husband is astay-at-home husband, and so he
does everything, he cooks.
They might have somebody thatcleans.
I don't know if he cleans.
Like, they she's doing herthing, and it just made more

(02:18:15):
sense because he made probablyhalf of what she makes, and they
were able to do all the numbersand like look, this makes more
sense.
And I he he was probably I enjoythis, I want to make sure a
daughter's good, and I got this,I got you.
Go do you and blow this shit upso we, you know, and I look like

(02:18:36):
if it makes sense, like I'm notmad at it.

SPEAKER_06 (02:18:40):
I'm not for me, it and I'm just like you said, like
it's for them.

SPEAKER_12 (02:18:47):
Over there, dying because it sounded like the
entire thing that you just said,pretty much just boiled down to
like I got a pretty good feelingabout maids.

SPEAKER_13 (02:19:03):
In-house child care, maid service.

SPEAKER_12 (02:19:06):
No, it's not a bad thing.

SPEAKER_06 (02:19:10):
I'm not I mean, but like y'all said, it's whatever
works.

SPEAKER_11 (02:19:14):
It's a it will be a good thing.

SPEAKER_06 (02:19:17):
For me, I'm just a little tired.
Like I've been, you know, like Imoved out when I was like 19.
I have you know my place, mycar, and I've just been working
and working and working andworking.

unknown (02:19:28):
I'm tired of it.

SPEAKER_14 (02:19:29):
You want to live the soft life.

SPEAKER_06 (02:19:31):
I do.
At least send my soft medium.
But I I am tired, and that's it.
That's life.
Yeah, and you want to nigga, yougotta work.

SPEAKER_12 (02:19:40):
You wanna stop, don't you?

SPEAKER_06 (02:19:41):
Yeah, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_12 (02:19:43):
Guess what?
That's not an option for me.
I gotta keep going.
I never get to stop.
I hope I better find me a MILF.
Maybe I can give me one ofthose.
A rich one.

SPEAKER_06 (02:19:56):
But that is y'all wrong.

SPEAKER_12 (02:19:57):
But but that's the that's the only thing I had to
look for.

SPEAKER_06 (02:20:00):
And I do, I can't say what it's empathy.
I mean, I feel I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_14 (02:20:05):
I was I was I was raised, and like I said, I don't
know how my grandparents werebeforehand, but I was raised by
them in their purest essence.
And for me to sit there andwatch Pure Essence, it used to
have me wanting it, and a lot oftimes the people that outside

(02:20:26):
ain't see what I seen, so youcan't get refreshing to actually
audibly hear two men saying, I'mjust gonna have to keep on
working.

SPEAKER_06 (02:20:35):
Because there's so many men.

SPEAKER_11 (02:20:36):
But I was right, yeah, I've been doing shit.

SPEAKER_14 (02:20:40):
I was I was I was I was raised watching my
grandfather come home from work.
And the minute that he got homefrom work, he went straight to
the backyard because he did hedid security during the day.
And then he worked on he workedon lawnmower engines and
lawnmowers and little smallengines at nighttime to make
extra money.

(02:21:00):
So my my my grandmother wouldalways be in the kitchen cooking
and making sure the house wasstraight.
So he didn't have to do shit bythe time that he goes in the
house.
And even when he was in the downthere in the I meant, like he
would be in there till damn nearin the middle of the fucking
night, still working on shit.
And she would be, I would be upthere playing my fucking game.

(02:21:20):
She would get done with a mealand call me from downstairs and
like, hey, get this, get this,get this, fix this, this, this,
this, this, and take that shitout there for your your
grandfather.
And I would sit there and watchhim get done with whatever he
would stop doing.
Whatever, and the minute thatthat plate hit outside, he would
stop doing whatever the fuck hewas doing and appreciated his

(02:21:43):
woman's food.
The minute he walked inside, hewould slap on her ass, call her
pet, and they would go into theroom.

SPEAKER_06 (02:21:51):
Well, he saw I like a man who knows, and it call me
Dixie or whatever, but I like aman who just like kind of
settles in his role as a man,just like women can settle in
their role as a woman.
Like my dad, I didn't grow upwith my dad for whatever, but he
was always in my life, right?
And he always provided for me.
So I'll never forget he came tovisit because Brooke, my

(02:22:12):
daughter, was having surgery,and he was spending the night
and stuff, and it was like, youknow, he took us out, you know,
whatever we wanted to buy, webought.
But it was like, I don't know,he woke up and he sat down at
the at my dining room table,like, where's my breakfast?
Like, pretty much like he wasgoing to sit there all day until

(02:22:35):
I got my ass in there and madesome breakfast.
And but I respected that.
Like, you know, no, I'm tryingto show you I provided for you.
I expect you to provide for me,provide for me in that way.
And he ate and he left his plateright there.

(02:22:55):
It was kind of like, damn.
But it was like, I could not geta like some people would get
offended by that.

SPEAKER_14 (02:23:02):
Like, I was just about to say that I was like,
some people find find glory inthat shit.
And some people find disgust inthat.
And that's where you have tofind the the difference.

SPEAKER_06 (02:23:16):
Because he earned it.
He wasn't he wasn't like adeadbeat dad that was still
expecting me to do that, justlike a man.
You know, when I took stuff ordo stuff for Chip, my boyfriend,
he did earn that.
Not only because I love him, buthe did earn it.
He deserves it.

SPEAKER_14 (02:23:33):
He did the things for you to make sure that you
wouldn't.
I'd be happy to do.
I always feel like it.
No.
Of course.
I don't want to trust me.
Oh no, you good.

SPEAKER_09 (02:23:46):
I'm stuck in the cigarettes.

SPEAKER_06 (02:23:53):
Like, I'm out this shit.

SPEAKER_16 (02:23:54):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (02:23:54):
Fuck y'all.
Taking my Chavez shirt with me.

SPEAKER_08 (02:24:01):
I feel bad now because me and my dude, like, I
I'm not a breakfast person.
I hate breakfast.
I when I wake up, I don't haveto eat.
I don't eat until like maybelunchtime.
So on the weekends, he's like,oh, so are you gonna cook
breakfast?
I'm like, I'm not a breakfastperson.
If I'm getting up, it's for you.
And he was like, Why do you haveto make it seem like you're
doing it for me?
I don't like that.
Like, you should like so we wedon't get into it, but it's kind

(02:24:25):
of like he was like, You eatbreakfast.
Like, if I go get something, yousaid you're gonna want
something.
So you do like breakfast.
Yeah, but I'm just like, but Idon't like to cook breakfast.
I don't know, it's weird.
So I I'm now that we're havingthis conversation, I'm like,
okay, maybe I do need to likeshe she's pointing and looking

(02:24:45):
at us in the microphones thatway.
Oh, you should sorry.
I know I talk really low.

SPEAKER_14 (02:24:51):
Yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_08 (02:24:52):
That's real life.
Yeah, talking about breakfast inthe morning.
Yeah, I just need to make that apriority.
Just make breakfast.

SPEAKER_14 (02:25:01):
I know I know for for me, I don't my woman would
not have to necessarily know howto cook because I like to cook
myself.
So it is something for me tolike to wake up in.
I'm an early bird anyway.
I wake up super early, so I liketo do that.
So if I meet somebody, the thewow factor is not because you

(02:25:25):
can cook.
You know, so you have to alwaysknow that individual as an
individual like yours.
Like you have to find out whatit is for that person.
Like, your guy likes sports.

SPEAKER_07 (02:25:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (02:25:40):
So you would know that I know that night sucks.
He loves sports up and you couldfind something that that does it
for him in sports.
Uh, like he said, you know, youmight have a guy that likes when
he wakes up in the morning andhe spells coffee and bacon.
And a lot of times because it'swhat he's raised on.

SPEAKER_08 (02:26:00):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (02:26:02):
And so if it's something that that person is
raised on, the expectation ishigh.
Now, he don't always get it, butif you can't provide it, just
know that there's an extra levelthat you can make it with him.
You know, or her, because at thesame time, you know, something
that I used to learn that wasvery silly for my grandmother.

(02:26:23):
My grandmother used to love forme just to comb her hair.

SPEAKER_01 (02:26:28):
Please.

SPEAKER_14 (02:26:32):
But but literally, you know, I would go and go in
my grandmother's room and get acomb and just sit there and when
we have conversations, I wouldcomb her hair while we had
conversations.
And so it slowly teaches you howto love and care for somebody.

SPEAKER_09 (02:26:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (02:26:49):
And that's why, even with my daughters, like she's so
aggravating.
Like, she'll ignore me all dayand then want cuddles and want
to come lay in my bed for fiveminutes, get cuddling out the
way, and then she's going back.
I say, Oh, okay, she must needit, she must need a little love.
She got it.
She got it, and now she's like,Alright, fuck you.

(02:27:14):
Like, I don't need it no more,but I need it for some and and I
never question her.
Sometimes she'll hold me tight.
You know, sometimes is it just Iwanna I wanna lay next to you.

SPEAKER_06 (02:27:24):
Sometimes I could feel that something's wrong,
yeah, and I'll just squeeze andyou always know, like, like Sade
Brooklyn came in the room withme because we was about to call
her little friend's mom for herto go out, and she came and she
was like leaning on me.
I was in heaven.

SPEAKER_07 (02:27:40):
That's what I did with everything.

SPEAKER_06 (02:27:48):
You had to put it on like you know, I'm just looking
like she's on there, like, youknow, I'm just gonna go.
She has turned me into a sucker.
For real.
Like, that's so sweet though.

SPEAKER_14 (02:28:07):
My daughter made me sense more sensitive towards
like um like females.
That's it.
When my daughter moved, when mydaughter first moved with me, we
bumped heads like crazy.

SPEAKER_07 (02:28:18):
She used to be like, Dad, why do you have to be so
aggressive?
I was like, you need to learnhow to deal with men.

SPEAKER_14 (02:28:26):
And so we used to clash so much when she when she
first was together, when wefirst got together, but it was
it was very, it was veryawakening to know that women's
emotionals are fragile.

SPEAKER_08 (02:28:41):
Oh, can I talk about that?
So my dude, my dude is from NewOrleans, and he is so
aggressive.
Not and it's nothing that'slike, you y'all heard him on the
phone So it's like when we firststarted dating, when he's
talking, like an average personwould take offense, but he'd be
like, yo, I don't want and I'mlike, bruh, like calm the fuck

(02:29:02):
down.
I was like, I'm not one of yourhomeboys, you gotta this all
this shit.
I was like, you gotta calm itdown.
And it's crazy because the otherday he was like, you taught me
how to be more soft.
He was like, because I'm notused to and I was like, yeah,
like the way you talk to me, ithurts my fucking feelings.
Like I know you don't mean itthat way, but you calm hard,
yeah, it's hard.
Like you gotta calm it down.
So yeah, so yeah, I'm Iappreciate that.

(02:29:23):
And like grew from that.

SPEAKER_04 (02:29:25):
I had to do that with my dad too, because it was
like he my dad was very like,you know, like y'all knew my
dad, but like he was very likefor like forceful at times, and
you know, like just yell if hewas upset.
And I don't like to this day Idon't do deal with like yelling
well, like don't yell at me.
It's very triggering, but um,you know, but it's like I had to

(02:29:49):
kind of tell him like because Ihave three brothers, two older,
so it's like you had two sons,and then you're kind of talking
to me the same way.
It's like I you can't talk to melike that.
Like I I don't I don't deal welllike that.
Cause after you've done allthat, then I don't think you
like me.
So I'm not gonna I'm not gonnatry to, you know, talk to you or

(02:30:09):
you know, like no.

SPEAKER_06 (02:30:10):
So see, and it's funny because like the men in my
life, like my grandfather and mydad, they were very like quiet
and reserved.
Yeah, he was very he was rightthere.
He was like peace.
And they were like, you know,just like not punks, but like
passive aggressive, like theydidn't like no confrontation.
And if I be damned, if Chip isnot so passive aggressive, you

(02:30:37):
know what I'm saying?
It takes a lot to get him there.
So it's like I took on kind oflike my grandmother.
We gonna say what the hell wegot to say.
That could be a bad thing.

SPEAKER_14 (02:30:50):
No, it's not.
No, it's not.

SPEAKER_06 (02:30:52):
But no, it's the way that I say it though.

SPEAKER_14 (02:30:54):
It could be.
But it's like, you know, right.

SPEAKER_06 (02:30:56):
I can't talk to him like my grandmother talked to my
grandfather because that was notgood.

SPEAKER_14 (02:31:01):
Most, most men, most, you know, they be like,
men always look for crazy women,right?
It's really not that men lookfor crazy women.
Men are strong.
And a lot of times a men, a manthat's strong wants a woman
that's not strong but vicious.

(02:31:21):
I need you to walk ahead of me.
And you, you, if somebody, you,you can you ever see like
certain niggas when they have auh a female that as very
opinionated or they they I don'tgive a fuck.
And he's just sitting back likeI wish a motherfucker.
For yeah, because he wants her,because he doesn't like for like

(02:31:46):
me, for instance, right?
I'm I don't like doing all thetalking and all that shit,
right?
And I don't I don't like being arepresentation for myself
sometimes.
So if I had somebody that was upfront or out front and it's
like, yo, like, makemotherfucking duck, this needs
to be this, and we need this tobe this, and I'm like, yeah,

(02:32:07):
shit, yeah, that's what that'swhat she said.
Well, that's what she wants.
Yeah, that's that's that'sthat's how I feel.
You know, but we don't like withthe order.
We don't we don't got that a lotof times, and and sometimes it
feels so out of place.
Because, like I said, y'alldon't feel safe no more.

SPEAKER_06 (02:32:25):
Well, see, like with with chip, I I do.
Like, you know what I mean?
Because like I'm like the onethat's always, you know, bubbly
and I'm gonna be talking.
He until he gets to know you, hejust sitting there like, that's
not a thing.
Mm-hmm.
You know, my sisters at firstdidn't like him, like, why is he
what's wrong with him?
Why is he so quiet that then heopened up?

(02:32:45):
But like you said, like he'lllet me talk and all that, but
it's like he just he looking.
Because he went, he looking forit.
Is a nigga looking at her thewrong way, like he wanna say
something to her, am I gonnahave he's actually have to say
stuff to me like hey, then youknow, kinda tone it down.
Because if somebody comes atyou, then I'ma be ready.

(02:33:07):
I don't talk.
And he's skinny, and I don'tknow whether he still has heart,
which I love about him.
So it's kinda I kinda it's alittle bit of both.

SPEAKER_14 (02:33:18):
I had you know.
I had to save one of my exes onetime because I like I said, I I
like that type of shit, right?
And so one time I was datingsomebody and they had she had
started with two, it was twofemales that was outside of a
car.
And she was like, and I wastrying to park, and they parked

(02:33:40):
fucked up when I was trying topark at the same time.
So she got mad about that shit.
Me, I'm just you know, quiet.
I'm like, I parked, I'm good.
She got out of the car like,this don't make no fucking sense
that these motherfuckers can'tpark.
And I'm looking.
And that's what I'm trying totry to tell her.
And so the two girls turnedaround, and you can tell that's

(02:34:02):
Ratchet One and Ratchet 2.
I was like, you about to getyour ass whooped.
So I had to be like, Y'all touchmy girl, I promise you.
I don't really fuck with women,but I'ma fuck y'all up.
And that oh, so that's what yougonna do.
You gonna hit a woman, you gonnahit.
I ain't had no intentions inhitting.
But I knew that y'allmotherfuckers was gonna think
twice about touching my woman.

SPEAKER_06 (02:34:22):
Women need to stop doing that shit because it done
got a lot of men killed.
I agree.
Don't do that shit.
Sit your ass down.
I agree.
Don't try to escalate.
And if I do fight, hey, it'sjust gonna be me and her,
whatever.
You just make sure the policedon't come.
But I ain't finna be rah-yeah tono does and all that.
Don't do that.

SPEAKER_14 (02:34:40):
This day and age, you don't want to stop doing
that.
These days, it's one on twenty.

unknown (02:34:46):
Yeah, that's not cool.

SPEAKER_14 (02:34:48):
And so when I seen that happen, I was like,
Michael, what are you gonna do?
I was like, man, shut up andjust say something.
Nigga, you're big.

SPEAKER_06 (02:34:56):
I wouldn't want to have to put my man in a place to
have to do that.
And you shouldn't, yeah.
Not over six.
I'm too long now anyway.

SPEAKER_14 (02:35:04):
But but but this then age, it happens.

SPEAKER_06 (02:35:08):
It stops.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (02:35:10):
And this then, like you could be you could be a
regular employee at McDonald'sand somebody comes in and starts
some shit with you.
I'm gonna walk in the game.
It does not.
It sounds good just walking awayuntil somebody snatched that
goddamn head.

SPEAKER_12 (02:35:24):
Yeah, you think it's all pulls you back.
You think it's all fun and gamestill you get a fish filet in the
face.

SPEAKER_06 (02:35:30):
But then that's when you done turned it physical.

SPEAKER_12 (02:35:33):
Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_06 (02:35:33):
And now, uh-oh.
It's sick of us.

SPEAKER_14 (02:35:37):
It is.

SPEAKER_06 (02:35:38):
It's it looked like it's still.

SPEAKER_14 (02:35:40):
Well, no, yeah, the visual.

SPEAKER_06 (02:35:43):
Oh, so we just audible now.

SPEAKER_14 (02:35:45):
Yeah.
Hello.
Yeah, yeah, y'all done, y'alldone wore out.

SPEAKER_01 (02:35:50):
Sexy singles.
First one, if you would like aafter dark.

SPEAKER_15 (02:35:57):
Hello, you've reached the chat line.
And this is where all the sexysingles are running around.

SPEAKER_06 (02:36:04):
Press nine for Tyrone.

SPEAKER_14 (02:36:08):
You have a new message from Long Dick.
Would you like to reply to LongDick?
Press one.

SPEAKER_08 (02:36:19):
The 30-year-old that you dated, what was his
username?

unknown (02:36:22):
I don't forgot.

SPEAKER_06 (02:36:23):
That was weird.

SPEAKER_11 (02:36:24):
But all you can't remember his real name.

SPEAKER_06 (02:36:26):
And I'll say Dwight.
I remember his name, but heneeds to be exposed.
Oh yeah.
Dwight.

SPEAKER_15 (02:36:33):
Old ass nigga.

SPEAKER_04 (02:36:36):
Praying on kids.
On the check.

SPEAKER_06 (02:36:39):
Like you came and got me from school, so you can't
say you didn't know how old Iwas the minor.
So can we cut that?

SPEAKER_14 (02:36:51):
Even though she only says your first name, you
pervert.
We still covered the white.
You fucking pervert.

SPEAKER_12 (02:36:59):
We know a lot of the whites.
You fucking gay bitch.

SPEAKER_08 (02:37:03):
Thank you.
The only the white I know isfrom the office.
So as a character.

SPEAKER_14 (02:37:11):
So I guess since we're out of film and we are at
almost three hours in.

SPEAKER_06 (02:37:17):
No, wow, that would not bad.
It sure did.

SPEAKER_14 (02:37:20):
I enjoyed y'all.
It's so much fun.
I appreciate everybody comingby.
And yeah, this was an amazingconversation.

SPEAKER_08 (02:37:28):
Like it's more that we need to talk about.

SPEAKER_04 (02:37:30):
I know we didn't even.

SPEAKER_06 (02:37:31):
We didn't even get to the like shoes.
We'll be back.
We need to make this happenagain.

SPEAKER_14 (02:37:38):
And and also, and also, I don't know if if if
Seven was mentioning it, but I'mtrying to create a network.
Oh, I think.
And I have a couple of, I wantto have a couple of slots, and I
would love for y'all if y'allcreate a show that, you know, I
would help y'all with it.
You know?

SPEAKER_06 (02:37:56):
Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 (02:37:58):
And we can come up with a name.

SPEAKER_06 (02:38:00):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (02:38:00):
We can bring into a name.
What did we say out there, girl?
Girl is just us.
But yeah.

SPEAKER_12 (02:38:08):
You might as well just call that girl is just us.
Girl is just us.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 (02:38:20):
Girl, it's just us.
No.

SPEAKER_04 (02:38:26):
I like say what was it?
Say that.
Hey, it's it.
Say this.

SPEAKER_06 (02:38:30):
We should just that's because we fell in love
with it.
I think we should keep it.

SPEAKER_14 (02:38:34):
So be on the lookout for say it's or whatever.
Say that sis.
Whatever.
Or whatever they come up withwhatever that whatever they
finalize and come up with.

SPEAKER_12 (02:38:46):
Say that sis.

SPEAKER_14 (02:38:47):
But just know that, you know, God damn it.
We are working.
And don't forget about don'tforget about climbing out of
Pandora's box.
It's still in the making.
Climbing out of Pandora's boxwill be out soon.

SPEAKER_06 (02:39:02):
How did you get in?
Her name is Pandora and heclimbed out of her box.

SPEAKER_08 (02:39:06):
But how did he get in the box to climb in?

SPEAKER_06 (02:39:08):
Is this a porn?

SPEAKER_04 (02:39:09):
What is the box?

SPEAKER_08 (02:39:10):
No, for real.
What is it?
Is it certain parts?
Because, like, how did he get inthe box?
I'm curious.

SPEAKER_12 (02:39:15):
Do you see how degenerative is?
I'm just listening.
I'm just listening.

SPEAKER_14 (02:39:24):
Yeah, give it to me.
All of it.
All the sauce.

SPEAKER_08 (02:39:27):
Climbing out of Pandora's wasn't hard to get out
of here.

SPEAKER_12 (02:39:29):
It's just a porn.
Sometimes it's like, no, it'snot a porn.

SPEAKER_14 (02:39:32):
Sometimes you can get lost in Pandora's box.

SPEAKER_08 (02:39:34):
It does sound like it.

SPEAKER_14 (02:39:35):
It does sound like a porn.
So that's not episode.
So so so it would.
I think Tubi would love mymovie.

SPEAKER_08 (02:39:46):
Toby, Tubi has some good movies, though.

SPEAKER_14 (02:39:47):
I think Tubi would love.
I agree.
I got enough equipment to do myown Tubi movie, damn it.
I got a lot of stuff in thatcloset, god damn it.
Oh shit.
And I know it.

SPEAKER_13 (02:40:00):
I'm telling you.
Don't worry about what I got inthat closet over there.

SPEAKER_08 (02:40:06):
That's what I said.

SPEAKER_15 (02:40:11):
That too.

SPEAKER_08 (02:40:13):
That's when the card is out of the memory card is out
of space.
Memory card is out of space,man.

SPEAKER_14 (02:40:27):
I got a lot of things going on in that shit.
Oh, I'm just playing.
Add it one more.
The name again.
Your name is so popular.

SPEAKER_02 (02:40:42):
Oh, you did just edit.
I didn't even realize that.

SPEAKER_14 (02:40:45):
See, I'm trying to save you.

SPEAKER_07 (02:40:51):
No, don't even put that in there.

SPEAKER_14 (02:40:53):
It's the race, it's the race instantly.
You're never getting fired.
You're getting promotedtomorrow.

unknown (02:40:59):
Tomorrow.

SPEAKER_14 (02:40:59):
Speak that into existence.

SPEAKER_06 (02:41:03):
Before we go out, first impressions.
Like, wait, what you know, Iwanna be getting from each
other.
Even though I ain't gonna gofirst.

SPEAKER_04 (02:41:12):
I know y'all.
Right.
So I ain't got nothing to saybecause I've seen everybody
before.

SPEAKER_14 (02:41:18):
You would like to know our impressions on you
guys?

SPEAKER_04 (02:41:20):
Yeah, like how yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (02:41:22):
Like how?
What did we do?
Yeah, first impressions orwhatever.
I guess first impression on uhthe host.
Um it was like I wouldn't knowthat you went through a lot of
stuff that you went through.
I was like, oh damn.
I really do think you were ahard worker and you not one of
them lazy men that just want tomake excuses.
I really do think you you cameup.

(02:41:43):
I think that's reallycommendable.

SPEAKER_10 (02:41:45):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 (02:41:46):
Um you can turn his mic back on.

SPEAKER_07 (02:41:49):
I think I wouldn't even look at you.

SPEAKER_06 (02:42:01):
I just think you're real, I think you're really cool
with that.
I think that you keep a lot ofthings in afraid of how somebody
might respond when you really dohave good things to say and you
should say it.
That's what I think so.

SPEAKER_05 (02:42:16):
Oh, look at it.

SPEAKER_13 (02:42:20):
Oh, I don't want to say it.
And then he says something.

SPEAKER_14 (02:42:27):
Something something that something that's funny is
we had a conversation justearlier.
He'd probably get mad at me forsaying this.
But he was questioning aboutcoming period because sometimes
he feels like he put his foot inhis mouth.
And I told him, I said, a lot oftimes that makes good for good
entertainment and good, youknow, conversation.
I don't want to be a fuckingclown though.

SPEAKER_12 (02:42:46):
That's what I don't want to do.
I don't think that's what I'msaying.
That's kind of what I wasgetting at.
Yeah, nobody feels like you're aclown.
I know.
All right.

SPEAKER_04 (02:42:55):
I think we all had like pre- not me today, but
like, you know, everybody waskind of feeling I did.
Everybody was kind of feeling away like I don't know about
this, or I don't want to dothat, or I don't, you know,
everybody's coming into itthinking something, but nobody,
like most of the people whowatch podcasts are watching it
because they enjoy the personthe people.

(02:43:16):
The personality of the person.
So they're coming with love,they're coming with good energy,
hopefully.
I mean, there are the haters,but we don't care about this,
right?
Right.
That's what you had to tell me.
That's what I said earlier.
Yeah.
Like, you know what?
Those are not our people.
The people that hype us up, andyeah, a lot of keyboard

(02:43:38):
gangsters out there.
Right.

SPEAKER_14 (02:43:39):
The coolest thing about stuff like this is you
never know who wants to listento you.

SPEAKER_06 (02:43:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 (02:43:46):
So the coolest thing about the Unbreakable Black Man
podcast, my second most popularuh group of you know, group of
individuals that listen to me isfrom Germany.

unknown (02:43:59):
Wow.

SPEAKER_14 (02:43:59):
Number two, number three, Hong Kong.

SPEAKER_12 (02:44:04):
Whites again, shout out whites again, Germany.
Here we go, baby.

SPEAKER_06 (02:44:10):
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay, so is is he where wereyour first impressions of Billy?

SPEAKER_12 (02:44:21):
Are we actually doing this?
What are your pre uh I thinkcool, cool, cool, cool.
I think uh you're all cool.
Yeah, you're all cool.

SPEAKER_08 (02:44:32):
I want you to say how you really feel.
Like the substance like this.
How do you get some substance inthere?

SPEAKER_14 (02:44:39):
Cooperate.

SPEAKER_15 (02:44:45):
What is it with this awkward?
It's been doing this wholenight.

SPEAKER_08 (02:44:52):
I feel like that's more, but he's just shy.

SPEAKER_12 (02:44:56):
They're trying to pull shit out of it.

SPEAKER_15 (02:44:58):
He's an onion.

SPEAKER_12 (02:44:59):
He's trying to they're trying to peel back the
onion.
Oh well, I'm an ogre.

SPEAKER_09 (02:45:04):
Climb out of Pandora's box.

SPEAKER_12 (02:45:06):
This isn't a oh, who said that?

SPEAKER_01 (02:45:08):
Face face, please join us.
Join us.

SPEAKER_07 (02:45:14):
No, stay the fuck out of my box.
Stay the fuck out.

SPEAKER_12 (02:45:17):
Yeah, get the fuck out of my swamp.
Shrek.

SPEAKER_14 (02:45:25):
That's funny.
I think I think my firstimpressions on you guys was very
bubbly from the junk.
So when I was making north, I Iwas even even even before Billy
got here, I could hear you guys'conversation from the shower.
I'm sitting here like, Ithought, I thought everybody was

(02:45:48):
already here.
I swear to God.
I was like, I said, I said, oh,they both must have got here
already.
And I'm sitting here trying toget myself together and get
ready.
I come out there and it's justtwo of you.
And I'm like, where was thecrowd?
Like I heard multiple peopletalking.
But just with that right there,I was like, this will be cool

(02:46:12):
because you know, you don't wantnobody that's a mute.
You don't want nobody that don'thave no personality.
You want them to havepersonality.
And then when Billy came in, itseemed right.
Hey, as y'all see, yeah, y'allhear every time we say Billy,
everybody starts laughing.
So figure this shit out.
Her name's not Billy.

SPEAKER_15 (02:46:37):
Like, that's it gotta be a joke.

SPEAKER_08 (02:46:40):
Like everybody's I just watched Sex Life on her
name.
It's a show on um Netflix calledSex Life and her name is Billy.

SPEAKER_12 (02:46:49):
Bro, Billy.
She was looking around going,who's Billy?

unknown (02:46:54):
Right.

SPEAKER_12 (02:46:55):
She never got her name.

SPEAKER_08 (02:46:59):
Billy.
Alright, Billy is out.

SPEAKER_14 (02:47:01):
I I I love it when people could be real on
microphones.
Some people are scared to sayhow they feel on microphones.
But for me, I ain't gonna lie,when I first crunked this up,
you know, me and James, weworked together, you know, we've
been working together for years.
And we've switched between threecompanies together.

(02:47:23):
And I remember when I first,when I first started this, I
used to feel so weird.
But it felt so nice and so coolto hear myself back, hear the
things that I would say and mythoughts and those things.
And I'll be like, oh my god,you're right, motherfucker.
I'll be sitting here talking tomyself.

(02:47:45):
Because, you know, it it's ait's a very different
experience, and it's cool to beable to experience it with a
group of people because you getto like you'll listen to this
episode three, four, or fivetimes and get something new
every time out of.

SPEAKER_06 (02:48:06):
He can't wait until I get you gotta play what she
wiped her ass from the home.

SPEAKER_02 (02:48:13):
Oh my gosh.
That's okay.
Oh my gosh.
That's sweet.

SPEAKER_08 (02:48:18):
Not nothing he probably don't already.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:48:20):
Right.

SPEAKER_14 (02:48:21):
So, so as we come up on three hours, I'm gonna go
ahead and close this thing onout.
And and just thanks everybodythat came out today and
experienced the UnbreakableBlack Male Podcast experience.
Yeah, uh, I hope that's I hopethat you guys come out more.

(02:48:41):
Y'all, thank you so much.
Nah, no problem.
I hope that y'all come out more.
You know, I I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_04 (02:48:46):
This has been fun.

SPEAKER_14 (02:48:49):
I do.
It was really nice meeting youguys.
Like with the eyes, like, holdup, they can't see it, so we
gotta tell them.
She rolled her eyes when shesaid that.

SPEAKER_16 (02:49:04):
I think they heard the jokingly.
They heard it.

SPEAKER_13 (02:49:07):
They heard it, they heard it in her voice.

SPEAKER_12 (02:49:09):
That's fine.
You and you, and you and you,and you're gonna love me.

SPEAKER_06 (02:49:18):
We can't have anything.

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