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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
I love that given the information of a certain
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leadership.
SPEAKER_02 (00:04):
Well, if I go back to the guy who's impacted me the
most in terms of my leadershipdevelopment, John Mac12, the
first leadership that was givento me back in 1998 leadership.
And his definition of leadershipwas nothing more, nothing less.
And that's disturbing.
You know, if we're going toinfluence others to do things,
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then we must disturb them.
Oftentimes I'll talk about itfrom a biblical mindset as well.
SPEAKER_01 (00:50):
Welcome everyone to doing business with a servant's
heart podcast.
I'm your host, Steve Ramona.
I am so thrilled to have youjoin us today.
This podcast is dedicated toexploring the idea of doing
business and living life with apurpose.
We believe that when we approachour work and our lives with a
servant heart, we can truly makea difference.
We created this show because wewant everyone to be motivated,
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inspired, and educated to makean impact in your world.
We don't want you to keep it.
We want you to share it with theworld so we can make that
impact.
I just have five minuteconversation with my guests.
You're going to love this guy,but while you're listening to
him, I want you to think abouthow you're serving today and
what impact you create today.
Again, I'm going to circle thatkeyword of today.
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I've talked to people, I'velistened to the podcast, and go,
you know, I forgot about it anda couple months went by.
Don't do that.
And it does, it could be justcalling your grandmother or
calling your best friend ortelling somebody they have a
beautiful daughter.
Serve somebody today, andguarantee you you'll feel great
about that.
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With that being said, impact isa big part of my monologue.
That's what I'm trying to dowith this podcast.
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But this is a true servant.
Using champions in his businessname, you gotta love it.
John, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
Steve, thanks so much for the opportunity.
Looking forward to ourconversation today, friend.
I feel like I've known youforever already.
SPEAKER_01 (02:26):
It's been yeah, we could go on for hours, but we
won't.
We'll go on for a nice 20, 25minutes.
SPEAKER_02 (02:30):
All righty.
SPEAKER_01 (02:31):
Growing growing champions.
Talk about it.
I'm excited to hear more.
SPEAKER_02 (02:35):
Yeah, I appreciate that opportunity.
I mean, as I I've been uh anorganizer or coaching and
consulting company for fouryears now, left the uh world of
IBM and some other uh largeconsulting companies post-COVID,
like many, made a change anddecided to go out on my own.
And I was sitting around and I'dbeen coached by a company called
Building Champions before.
And my sons were actuallyattending Liberty University,
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where my oldest son actually wasa cheerleader for the football
team there as well.
And their their theme wasgrowing champions for Christ.
And I'm talking to my wife, I'mlike, if I get this started, I
don't want to call it JohnGallagher Enterprises or
something like that, or JohnGallagher Coach.
I want something different.
She said, okay, put those twothings together and just call it
growing champions.
I'm like, well, that seemsalmost too simple.
And we got it started like that.
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But when I think about thatchampion and having that mindset
of a champion and why that wordultimately was so important to
me, it was not just about thenumber of wins that went along
with that, but the mindset thatcomes along with the champion uh
that they're not going to giveup and they're going to keep
striving uh to be more and moresuccessful and have the impact
that you talk about each andevery day.
SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
Yeah, you just when you said that, John, or think of
Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, TomBrady.
Like him or not, that doesn'tmatter.
It's they had a championmindset.
All that people helping them,but they got up earlier than
everybody.
They stayed later and I meanthey did the champion mindset,
but took actions with that.
I love that.
But I don't want to disregardgrowing because I love that word
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because we talked about earlierabout younger people.
We can learn from them.
Talk about your growing part ofthat.
SPEAKER_02 (04:02):
Absolutely.
One of my core values that Ioperate under, personal core
values, Steve, is growth.
Personal growth on a dailybasis.
And frankly, as a leader,growing others, hence the word
growing champions.
And that I know that that thatreally that growth side, being a
lifelong learner, is somethingthat I've committed to.
I don't look forward to a daywhere I say that I'm retiring,
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if you will, to go for, but I Iultimately I want to take care
of myself in an intentional way,both for my health, spiritual
development, and leadershipdevelopment, you know, that
allows me to grow on a dailybasis.
You see behind me in terms ofvideo, the books that I read is
something that I do on a regularbasis.
And so I've taken that veryimportant.
And then the other side of thatwhen I do my consulting of
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growth is that I want thoseorganizations to grow the
leaders and in thoseorganizations so that they can
have eternal and kingdom impactwith the opportunities that they
have as well.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (04:57):
And you mentioned leadership and leader.
I love that.
Give me your definition of aservant leadership.
SPEAKER_02 (05:02):
Well, if I go back to the guy who's impacted me the
most in terms of my leadershipdevelopment, is John Maxwell,
was the first leadership bookthat was given to me back in
1998, the 21 Irrefutable Laws ofLeadership.
And his definition of leadershipwas influence, nothing more,
nothing less.
And as a servant, you know, ifwe're going to influence others
to do things, then we must servethem.
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Oftentimes I'll talk about itfrom a biblical mindset as well.
And the, you know, the verse inthe Bible says ultimately Jesus
was not sent here to be served,but to serve.
And those of the lesser of uswill reap and enjoy the success
that's there.
And I just I view that at thesame side in terms of being a
servant to serve others, seeingthem grow uh can be frankly uh
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as much of a prize for me asseeing myself grow.
SPEAKER_01 (05:47):
Man, you gave me a huge thought when you mentioned
Jesus.
And I've never thought aboutthis because I always think
leaders are always mentoring,and that's what you were saying.
Well, Jesus mentored 12 peopleto become messengers for
millions.
We can do that too.
Of course, not his level, but wecould do that as humans, right?
SPEAKER_02 (06:02):
Yes, we could, absolutely.
And you think about those 12that he mentored as well.
I mean, they weren't the eliteof the group.
He pulled in the carpenters, thefishermen, and those that were
just kind of uncommon, or excuseme, common men uh and poured
into them, equip them, inspiredthem, and taught them uh to do
uncommon things.
SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
Great point.
See, that's why I love being ahost.
I get to learn as well as havefun.
Let's let's do the sports andbusiness bridge.
We talked about sports and wecould have talked about sports
for hours.
I love it and talk about it allthe time.
What's your uh thoughts on thatwith the sports and business?
SPEAKER_02 (06:38):
Well, specifically for me, when I think about
sports, so I grew up playingsports, basketball, football,
baseball through high school.
You know, I was you know goodenough to be able to play in
those days.
I did not go on to play incollege, but I gotta tell you, I
was competitive, no doubt aboutit.
Those juices uh flowed into mefrom a competitive spirit.
And when I think about business,I do think competition, uh,
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while it's not necessarily atthe win at all cost methodology,
that the competitive spiritinside a business to me is just
like the competitive spiritthat's inside of a successful
business coach.
We mentioned a few of thosenames before we got started.
Lou Holtz was one of those, TonyDungey, and those individuals
that used leadership as theirprimary methodology in which
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they teach.
One of the things being a WestVirginia fan, I love when I
heard just a few years ago whennew head coach Neil Brown
actually presented his coacheswith the book Developing the
Leader Within You and reviewedit with them on a regular basis.
So it wasn't just about the gameor the sport of football, but it
was also about growingindividuals that were going to
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have an impact.
One of the most memorablemoments that I have as coaching
my son's basketball team uh inseventh grade.
And you start thinking aboutthings, we'd sit down at the end
of each practice, sixth andseventh graders, and talk about
leadership, respect, andattitude and the way that he
approached it, way that theyapproached it.
And they didn't necessarily uhlove it at the time, but I
remember when uh one of theyoung men graduated from high
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school and he came back to meafterwards and said, Hey, I just
remember when you coached usabout attitude uh during that.
That was three or four or fiveyears earlier.
So we never know again, use theword impact, the impact we're
having on folks.
Sometimes you know it down theroad.
But to me, that's the greateststory ever told when you get
when you get stories like thatof impact being a coach for
someone.
SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
That's the power of coaching.
You're developing leaders withyoung people.
We need more of that now thanever.
Let's be flat and honest.
It's this we do.
These young generations, theyneed to lead a lot of this uh
leadership mentality.
What is your main focus on yourconsulting?
SPEAKER_02 (08:40):
Yeah, for me specifically, when I look at uh
working with organizationsinside the consulting space, I
really uh do it in the form offour sticks uh that I'm looking
for.
And I talk about the leaderthemselves.
The leader's got to make thedecision they've got to want to
change uh to go forward.
And we can talk about that interms of the seven steps.
But once that leader has madethe choice, once they've made
the decision that they're notwilling to accept the status
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quo, we have an opportunity.
Then we move forward withdeveloping their team and
coaching their team with theskills and equipping them with
the knowledge that they need tobe successful, then starting
with implementing the systemsand processes that they need to
be successful.
And that ultimately those threethings together, those three
sticks together, lead to thatenduring impact.
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Oftentimes, organizations willsee some intermittent success
with some of the things thatthey can do.
But when you get in lockstepharmony and the leader is
committed to growing themselves,the organization's only going to
grow as far as that leader ofthe organization grows.
John Maxwell refers to it as thelaw of the lid.
And if you have individuals onyour team that are growing
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faster than you are as a leader,you better keep an eye out for
that because they're eithergoing to leave the organization
or it's going to be somethingthat you're just not going to be
able to capture that success.
It doesn't mean you have to besmarter than them at everything
you do.
It just means you have to bedeveloping your own leadership
skills, your influence withthem, your vision so that they
can see where you're going as aleadership and be able to follow
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you again to reach that ultimatepinnacle of uh success.
SPEAKER_01 (10:10):
That's a million-dollar tip right there
for anybody that's a founder,CEO of a business, because you
start losing all your staff,your business is in trouble for
probably the wrong reasons.
So I I read and you sent me someinformation that you had a
childhood event having thatimpacted your life.
I believe your past experiences,not all of it, some live with
you.
What was the impact you had as achild?
SPEAKER_02 (10:31):
Oh, wow.
Well, I mean, I I I love that asa story, and there's so many
that could talk.
Many people talk about bigthings that they've overcome.
For me, it was uh simply youknow being bullied as a child
and you know, understanding thatI was definitely different.
I grew up in a town uh that wasuh primarily Italian, influence
that was inside the town.
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I loved the food and I loved allthat went along with it.
But this uh tall guy with redhair uh and a big head stood
out, no doubt about it, andbecame an easy target for that.
And oftentimes, if I if I'mbeing you know brutally honest,
it was an opportunity for me uhto then rather than to fight
that is trying to find somebodyelse that I could do the same.
And I tell you, I look back onthat right now in terms of as a
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child and ultimately have beendisappointed in myself for that
behavior.
But really thinking about againwhen coaching kids today and
observing that behavior, I mean,I've heard you're most
powerfully positioned to helpthe person that you used to be
in your leadership development,whatever that means.
And I have an opportunity toinfluence others.
And that whether that's coachingmy son's basketball team and not
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accepting some of thosebehaviors with regards to
bullying or things that aregoing on, coaching uh
individuals in the church, youngadults, or frankly coaching
folks that I've led in businessas well and not allowing those
behaviors to happen, uh, orteaching folks what the impact
of kindness and influence can berather than uh trying to
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dominate someone and how theresults can be more significant.
It's something that I try from amindset standpoint not to harp
on a whole lot and say that Ihave a chip on my shoulder about
it, but it's certainlyinfluenced my leadership style
uh over the years.
SPEAKER_01 (12:10):
It's in your radar because you experience it.
And I it's interesting youmentioned bully.
You're the third guest this lasttwo weeks that mentioned
bullying.
It's a problem, and especiallynow with technology.
SPEAKER_02 (12:20):
Yeah, different kind of bullying today, the
electronic bullying that exists.
Goodness gracious.
SPEAKER_01 (12:24):
Yeah, and I think kindness is the key.
That that's the big start ofthat.
This has been staring now,audience.
If you're listening or listeningto this podcast and not
watching, John's got a greatt-shirt that says excellent.
What's your definition ofexcellence?
How do you input that in yourcoaching and consulting?
SPEAKER_02 (12:40):
Yeah, thanks for asking it.
And it is that excellence onlyhappens on purpose.
I can't, I don't have it quitehigh enough, but it is uh it
ultimately uh when I think aboutuh going in with organizations,
I want them to set what theythey really want their North
Star to be.
I often refer to it in theframework as their so that.
You know, they have anopportunity to do some work,
they know they must change, butit's so that they have that
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impact that they want to.
And that often feels like anideal state or perfection that
they're shooting for.
And sometimes that feels justquite out of reach.
But of going back to a sportsanalysis analogy, Vince Lombardi
had a quote where he says, Youshould strive for perfection and
strive for that every day.
Know that you might reachexcellence on the way there.
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And so excellence is not the endgame.
Excellence is a place that youget to by doing it on purpose,
by being very intentional withyour habits and disciplines and
being better at your competitionthan doing those daily, weekly,
and monthly things that you haveto do to be successful.
And not just at work as well,but in taking care of your own
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Now, let's get back to the aswell, being intentional about
that.
The saying I'd love to say therewas really something, but I have
a a picture that's up in myoffice and probably should get a
small one for behind me thatsays oaks excellence only
happens on purpose.
And there's a picture, it wasfrom the Liberty University
president who posted it on hisInstagram page.
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And it was actually a picture inthe background of my son
carrying a flag.
He was the cheerleader atLiberty University, a huge flag
across the football field atLiberty University.
So 120 yards each time theyscored a touchdown.
When he was there, Hugh Freezewas the head coach.
They were scoring a lot ofpoints and a lot of touchdowns.
And he'd have to run that thing120 yards through the wind, even
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through the weather and whateverthat meant.
And being able to do that wasonly going to be done through
the discipline he had to do toget stronger and be involved
that every day.
So it's just a reminder to methat if I'm going to achieve the
things that I want to, that Ineed to do that on purpose and
be very intentional with it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:22):
Might be a tough question, John, but I like what
you're doing and saying.
Can anybody be excellent?
SPEAKER_02 (15:27):
I think so.
I absolutely do.
Look, here's what I believe.
Folks who have good intention,okay, and I think many of I
again, I believe folks have goodintention, but they have good
intention without discipline,that leads to excuses.
But if you have good disciplinewith good intentions, then that
leads to excellence.
And so those two thingstogether, those are things that
anyone can do.
Whether it's read, you know,becoming a reader.
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I love the quote.
I don't have time to read.
But the simple math is this if Iread 10 pages a day, the average
leadership book is 220 pages.
I can read a book every 22 days.
I can read 12, 13 books a yearsimply by putting the time in my
calendar to spend 10 minutes toread 10 pages in a book.
You know, oftentimes folks willsay I'm not a reader.
And our mutual uh friend NickHutchison would say it's the
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$10,000 rule that if I gave you$10,000 to read a book over the
next 30 days, I bet you couldget that book read.
So if what's got what's moreimportant to you, it's getting
your priorities in line ratherthan sitting down and binging on
a Netflix series that's notadding any value to you or
scrolling endlessly throughsocial media in the name of
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personal development at times orwhatever that means for us, but
just become intentional withjust 10 minutes a day inside of
our space.
What that can lead to from adevelopment standpoint is
powerful.
SPEAKER_01 (16:42):
Okay, I'm gonna recap that again because that's
a powerful message because the$10,000 is legit, meaning you
read 12 books.
Are you gonna make an extra10,000?
Again, it depends what you sell,but absolutely, probably much
more than that.
That's right.
So it's 10 pages a day, averagepage is 220 pages per book.
That's 22 days to finish a book,about 12 to 13 a year.
SPEAKER_02 (17:05):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (17:06):
And what do you think most people are reading in
a year on a oh well?
SPEAKER_02 (17:08):
I mean, the data would tell you that um at least
50% of Americans don't pick upanother book after they graduate
from high school or college, andthat's part of the horrendous
part of it.
Um, those individuals that areuh reading 10, 12 books a year,
I think are in the top onepercent with regards to
individuals who are doingleadership development.
There's just not that manypeople that are doing it.
It's hard, it's it's hard, butit's not really hard, it's
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actually simple.
And simple is hard because youhave to be disciplined.
SPEAKER_01 (17:35):
John, you're brilliant because you just you
just lived your words.
It's simple.
Can I do 10 pages a day?
Was it 15 minutes?
Can I carve off 15 minutes andthen go watch your Netflix, you
know, or scroll on, but get yourpriorities straight.
I'm getting fired up herebecause I love what you said.
When it's teaching me, you know,I'll do a couple pages, but my
goal is 10 pages a day.
That's it.
Then I put the book away andthen I can do those other
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things.
I always say 1% every day, getbetter 1% every day, and there's
your 1% right there.
SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
Love that.
That's hanging up in the gymover there, which is another
one.
You want to get better in thefitness world, get yourself in
the gym, right?
Well, I you know I just don'thave time to do that.
Well, you know, the heaviest,the heaviest weight that's in
the gym is the front door.
You just got to get through thefront door.
Once you're in there, you'regonna make it happen.
SPEAKER_01 (18:16):
I ran health clubs and I've never heard that, and
that's a good one.
Yeah, and your health as aconsultant, if you don't have
your health as a CEO, founder,entrepreneur, you don't have a
business.
SPEAKER_02 (18:26):
I agree with you 100%, yeah, Steven.
I I I mean, that's part of mystory.
Uh, it was eight years ago,2017, I had a health scare and I
was uh 80 pounds overweight.
And I just had gotten to thepoint where I was sick and tired
of being sick and tired.
And I walked into a a gym thathad trainers that I had driven
by for years and looked at it.
And the first trainer that Icame up to, I told her, I said,
I need help.
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I think we need coaches in allthose areas that we want to get
better at.
And over a three-year journey,uh, I was able to lose 80 pounds
and have since uh kept thatweight off over a period of
years.
But again, because it takesdiscipline, part it became part
of my lifestyle.
The hashtag I used to use backin that time, you know,
something again starts with asimple step.
What's one thing you caneliminate from your diet just to
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get you better?
And mine was hashtag stop eatingfrench fries.
I was eating french fries everyday, twice a day on meals and
everything else because I lovedthem.
And I still am able to eat thosetoday.
But if you eat them five days aweek, just try three days a week
and replace those French frieswith, you know, lettuce or salad
from a fitness standpoint.
And again, how I correlate thatto business is you know, like,
what is that French fry in yourbusiness that you get caught up
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in?
Is it the emails that you getcaught up in that you just got
to unsubscribe from two of thosetwo or three of those emails
every day to start reducing thenumber that you have uh that can
help you on the business side aswell?
SPEAKER_01 (19:40):
Yeah, it's funny you say the French fry business.
I talked to a mentor or abusiness entrepreneur mentoring,
he'd watch Netflix on hiscomputer in his office.
I'm like, that's a half hour.
He goes, It's only a half hour,but you're not reading the book
either.
I I audience, if you're notgetting this, he's really making
it simple to grow and makemoney.
That's the bottom line.
We all need money.
(20:01):
You all are listening to this,one to be a servant's heart, but
that leads to the revenueincrease somehow, some way,
somewhere, doing the rightthings.
We're coming to the end here.
Tell us a quick story of abusiness you work with, brought
them excellence, taught themcoaching, taught them uh
champion and growing champions,and and how it worked out.
SPEAKER_02 (20:21):
Yeah, so you know, one of the things in terms of
competitive spirit, uh, and Ilike to use sports videos uh to
and short video clips to uh helpmake uh teaching moments
possible.
And I was coaching an executiveteam for a large uh healthcare
company, and I showed a videofrom the movie, I believe I
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believe it was uh wasn'tCourageous, it was uh running
with the Giants, and it was uhthe same maker of the movie,
Courageous, and it was about thecrab walk across the football
field and how folks uh keepthemselves from succeeding at a
higher level because they setlimiting beliefs in front of
them.
And I sat that through, and I'llnever forget the CEO of that
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organization in tears after thatvideo was done.
And he says that you're exactlyright.
If we could just take thegoggles off where we see our own
limiting beliefs that we're onlyable to get to a certain point
and strive again for thatperfection that we're looking
for, we would get much farther.
Look, I worked with thatorganization for seven years as
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a consultant for a largecompany, and they were able to
transform the way they cared fortheir patients.
They were able to transform theresults that they had overall,
and they were able to transformtheir leadership uh into a
space.
And what it what it really ledto with this leader is he he
retired and he had written aweekly newsletter for about
seven years with his company.
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And I was coaching him still,even after he retired, he was
the CEO emeritus.
And I saw the first time hisweekly newsletter didn't come
out.
And I said to the CEO, Imentioned him by name, and I
said, Where's your newsletter?
He said, Well, I'm I'm retirednow.
I'm not gonna write it.
I'm like, No, absolutely not.
I said, You have to write morenow.
It's freeing you up from thedevelopment so that you can
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continue to add value, not justto your organization, but now
the people out in the communityand the country need to hear
what you have to say.
And he has since put thattogether where he's been doing
it for another nine years as aretired CEO and sharing uh that
uh newsletter with folks on aweekly basis.
So I I love the to see thechanges of the people.
(22:26):
If I could just kind of shareone more story, because to me, I
I refer to it as the greateststory ever told, is that you're
gonna there's gonna be a time inin your life or somebody else's
life where somebody's gonna askyou to write down the names of
the individuals who have had apositive impact on your life.
And for me, that's the greatestevery greatest story ever told,
even though you may never knowit, is when somebody writes your
(22:47):
name on their list of somebodywho's made a positive impact
back to servant leadership allthe way around the circle.
So the question you know youhave as leaders to be
intentional is who's going towrite your name on their list?
And if you know who that is, youneed to go out and start
building those relationshipsintentionally so they can impact
(23:07):
that person.
It might be a family member,might be a friend, it might be a
business client that you'retrying to impact to write your
name.
But that's the greatest storyever told to me.
SPEAKER_01 (23:17):
I'm rarely speechless because the first
thought came in, I just got anemail three days ago.
You put us together in a youknow, in an email, introduced
them.
It was the best meeting we'vehad in five years.
Thank you for thinking of bothof us.
And audience, uh me and Johnaren't pumping our egos up.
We're just telling you, when youhave a servant's heart, it's
like Christmas gifts every day.
(23:39):
And that's how I relate to it.
So thank you for sharing that.
And the crab walk uh video.
I'm gonna actually watch itafter we get done here.
That's where the guy sits on topof them.
Yes, he puts the kid on top ofthe top.
Yeah, and the coaches yelling atme, I can't do it.
I can't uh audience, pleasewatch that.
And I'm gonna watch it and savethat because I'm getting chills
right now.
I've got I've got a funquestion.
I always like to end with thisgreat question.
(24:00):
All right.
So we've got a reservation at arestaurant.
You do, you got a table of four.
You obviously get to sit in oneof the chairs.
In the other three chairs, deador alive, who are you gonna
invite?
Why are they invited?
And what food would you order?
SPEAKER_02 (24:13):
Oh, what food would I order?
Wow, here we go.
Well, I won't say, say, we'reall on the same path now.
What are we gonna do now?
Absolutely.
Well, you know, I I I love thisquestion.
It's kind of fun and it's alwayshard.
But I mean, look, it it feels uha little bit self-serving in and
of itself, but I would put uhJesus at the table in one of
those seats.
(24:34):
And the reason I say that is,you know, as we talked about
that again, he was able to uhdevelop 12 individuals to do
uncommon things, common men todo uncommon things.
And as you read through the NewTestament, listen in, Jesus
rarely answered a questiondirectly.
He was the ultimate coach.
Somebody would ask him aquestion, and 380 times he was
(24:56):
asked a question, and only 18times did he answer that
question directly.
Outside of that, he'd answer itwith another question, he'd
answer it with a parable, he'danswer it with an example of
what he had been through insideof his life.
And I love that from hisstandpoint.
I just want to learn about howhe would be at answering
questions.
Uh, the second person I'd putthere with regards to uh
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especially things we're going totoday is Ronald Reagan.
And how was he ultimately theunifier that he was in the space
that he was in?
I mean, look, he's an actor inmovies, and I didn't see all of
his movies, Betty Davis moviesand all those things, he uh
governor of California.
Uh, but ultimately as apresident, look, people can
debate and argue all they wantto about who was the best
(25:37):
president in the world.
But in my time, uh, he's beenone of the most influential
people when it came to uhrelationships across the board,
across the aisle, uh, across theglobe, and I think was really
powerful.
SPEAKER_00 (25:48):
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Until next time, go and growchampions.
I love that given the information of a certain
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leadership.
SPEAKER_02 (00:04):
Well, if I go back to the guy who's impacted me the
most in terms of my leadershipdevelopment, John Mac12, the
first leadership that was givento me back in 1998 leadership.
And his definition of leadershipwas nothing more, nothing less.
And that's disturbing.
You know, if we're going toinfluence others to do things,
(00:24):
then we must disturb them.
Oftentimes I'll talk about itfrom a biblical mindset as well.
SPEAKER_01 (00:50):
Welcome everyone to doing business with a servant's
heart podcast.
I'm your host, Steve Ramona.
I am so thrilled to have youjoin us today.
This podcast is dedicated toexploring the idea of doing
business and living life with apurpose.
We believe that when we approachour work and our lives with a
servant heart, we can truly makea difference.
We created this show because wewant everyone to be motivated,
(01:11):
inspired, and educated to makean impact in your world.
We don't want you to keep it.
We want you to share it with theworld so we can make that
impact.
I just have five minuteconversation with my guests.
You're going to love this guy,but while you're listening to
him, I want you to think abouthow you're serving today and
what impact you create today.
Again, I'm going to circle thatkeyword of today.
(01:32):
I've talked to people, I'velistened to the podcast, and go,
you know, I forgot about it anda couple months went by.
Don't do that.
And it does, it could be justcalling your grandmother or
calling your best friend ortelling somebody they have a
beautiful daughter.
Serve somebody today, andguarantee you you'll feel great
about that.
Today's episode is proudlysponsored by our incredible
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With that being said, impact isa big part of my monologue.
That's what I'm trying to dowith this podcast.
(02:13):
But this is a true servant.
Using champions in his businessname, you gotta love it.
John, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
Steve, thanks so much for the opportunity.
Looking forward to ourconversation today, friend.
I feel like I've known youforever already.
SPEAKER_01 (02:26):
It's been yeah, we could go on for hours, but we
won't.
We'll go on for a nice 20, 25minutes.
SPEAKER_02 (02:30):
All righty.
SPEAKER_01 (02:31):
Growing growing champions.
Talk about it.
I'm excited to hear more.
SPEAKER_02 (02:35):
Yeah, I appreciate that opportunity.
I mean, as I I've been uh anorganizer or coaching and
consulting company for fouryears now, left the uh world of
IBM and some other uh largeconsulting companies post-COVID,
like many, made a change anddecided to go out on my own.
And I was sitting around and I'dbeen coached by a company called
Building Champions before.
And my sons were actuallyattending Liberty University,
(02:56):
where my oldest son actually wasa cheerleader for the football
team there as well.
And their their theme wasgrowing champions for Christ.
And I'm talking to my wife, I'mlike, if I get this started, I
don't want to call it JohnGallagher Enterprises or
something like that, or JohnGallagher Coach.
I want something different.
She said, okay, put those twothings together and just call it
growing champions.
I'm like, well, that seemsalmost too simple.
And we got it started like that.
(03:17):
But when I think about thatchampion and having that mindset
of a champion and why that wordultimately was so important to
me, it was not just about thenumber of wins that went along
with that, but the mindset thatcomes along with the champion uh
that they're not going to giveup and they're going to keep
striving uh to be more and moresuccessful and have the impact
that you talk about each andevery day.
SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
Yeah, you just when you said that, John, or think of
Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, TomBrady.
Like him or not, that doesn'tmatter.
It's they had a championmindset.
All that people helping them,but they got up earlier than
everybody.
They stayed later and I meanthey did the champion mindset,
but took actions with that.
I love that.
But I don't want to disregardgrowing because I love that word
(03:57):
because we talked about earlierabout younger people.
We can learn from them.
Talk about your growing part ofthat.
SPEAKER_02 (04:02):
Absolutely.
One of my core values that Ioperate under, personal core
values, Steve, is growth.
Personal growth on a dailybasis.
And frankly, as a leader,growing others, hence the word
growing champions.
And that I know that that thatreally that growth side, being a
lifelong learner, is somethingthat I've committed to.
I don't look forward to a daywhere I say that I'm retiring,
(04:24):
if you will, to go for, but I Iultimately I want to take care
of myself in an intentional way,both for my health, spiritual
development, and leadershipdevelopment, you know, that
allows me to grow on a dailybasis.
You see behind me in terms ofvideo, the books that I read is
something that I do on a regularbasis.
And so I've taken that veryimportant.
And then the other side of thatwhen I do my consulting of
(04:46):
growth is that I want thoseorganizations to grow the
leaders and in thoseorganizations so that they can
have eternal and kingdom impactwith the opportunities that they
have as well.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (04:57):
And you mentioned leadership and leader.
I love that.
Give me your definition of aservant leadership.
SPEAKER_02 (05:02):
Well, if I go back to the guy who's impacted me the
most in terms of my leadershipdevelopment, is John Maxwell,
was the first leadership bookthat was given to me back in
1998, the 21 Irrefutable Laws ofLeadership.
And his definition of leadershipwas influence, nothing more,
nothing less.
And as a servant, you know, ifwe're going to influence others
to do things, then we must servethem.
(05:22):
Oftentimes I'll talk about itfrom a biblical mindset as well.
And the, you know, the verse inthe Bible says ultimately Jesus
was not sent here to be served,but to serve.
And those of the lesser of uswill reap and enjoy the success
that's there.
And I just I view that at thesame side in terms of being a
servant to serve others, seeingthem grow uh can be frankly uh
(05:45):
as much of a prize for me asseeing myself grow.
SPEAKER_01 (05:47):
Man, you gave me a huge thought when you mentioned
Jesus.
And I've never thought aboutthis because I always think
leaders are always mentoring,and that's what you were saying.
Well, Jesus mentored 12 peopleto become messengers for
millions.
We can do that too.
Of course, not his level, but wecould do that as humans, right?
SPEAKER_02 (06:02):
Yes, we could, absolutely.
And you think about those 12that he mentored as well.
I mean, they weren't the eliteof the group.
He pulled in the carpenters, thefishermen, and those that were
just kind of uncommon, or excuseme, common men uh and poured
into them, equip them, inspiredthem, and taught them uh to do
uncommon things.
SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
Great point.
See, that's why I love being ahost.
I get to learn as well as havefun.
Let's let's do the sports andbusiness bridge.
We talked about sports and wecould have talked about sports
for hours.
I love it and talk about it allthe time.
What's your uh thoughts on thatwith the sports and business?
SPEAKER_02 (06:38):
Well, specifically for me, when I think about
sports, so I grew up playingsports, basketball, football,
baseball through high school.
You know, I was you know goodenough to be able to play in
those days.
I did not go on to play incollege, but I gotta tell you, I
was competitive, no doubt aboutit.
Those juices uh flowed into mefrom a competitive spirit.
And when I think about business,I do think competition, uh,
(06:59):
while it's not necessarily atthe win at all cost methodology,
that the competitive spiritinside a business to me is just
like the competitive spiritthat's inside of a successful
business coach.
We mentioned a few of thosenames before we got started.
Lou Holtz was one of those, TonyDungey, and those individuals
that used leadership as theirprimary methodology in which
(07:23):
they teach.
One of the things being a WestVirginia fan, I love when I
heard just a few years ago whennew head coach Neil Brown
actually presented his coacheswith the book Developing the
Leader Within You and reviewedit with them on a regular basis.
So it wasn't just about the gameor the sport of football, but it
was also about growingindividuals that were going to
(07:43):
have an impact.
One of the most memorablemoments that I have as coaching
my son's basketball team uh inseventh grade.
And you start thinking aboutthings, we'd sit down at the end
of each practice, sixth andseventh graders, and talk about
leadership, respect, andattitude and the way that he
approached it, way that theyapproached it.
And they didn't necessarily uhlove it at the time, but I
remember when uh one of theyoung men graduated from high
(08:06):
school and he came back to meafterwards and said, Hey, I just
remember when you coached usabout attitude uh during that.
That was three or four or fiveyears earlier.
So we never know again, use theword impact, the impact we're
having on folks.
Sometimes you know it down theroad.
But to me, that's the greateststory ever told when you get
when you get stories like thatof impact being a coach for
someone.
SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
That's the power of coaching.
You're developing leaders withyoung people.
We need more of that now thanever.
Let's be flat and honest.
It's this we do.
These young generations, theyneed to lead a lot of this uh
leadership mentality.
What is your main focus on yourconsulting?
SPEAKER_02 (08:40):
Yeah, for me specifically, when I look at uh
working with organizationsinside the consulting space, I
really uh do it in the form offour sticks uh that I'm looking
for.
And I talk about the leaderthemselves.
The leader's got to make thedecision they've got to want to
change uh to go forward.
And we can talk about that interms of the seven steps.
But once that leader has madethe choice, once they've made
the decision that they're notwilling to accept the status
(09:02):
quo, we have an opportunity.
Then we move forward withdeveloping their team and
coaching their team with theskills and equipping them with
the knowledge that they need tobe successful, then starting
with implementing the systemsand processes that they need to
be successful.
And that ultimately those threethings together, those three
sticks together, lead to thatenduring impact.
(09:23):
Oftentimes, organizations willsee some intermittent success
with some of the things thatthey can do.
But when you get in lockstepharmony and the leader is
committed to growing themselves,the organization's only going to
grow as far as that leader ofthe organization grows.
John Maxwell refers to it as thelaw of the lid.
And if you have individuals onyour team that are growing
(09:43):
faster than you are as a leader,you better keep an eye out for
that because they're eithergoing to leave the organization
or it's going to be somethingthat you're just not going to be
able to capture that success.
It doesn't mean you have to besmarter than them at everything
you do.
It just means you have to bedeveloping your own leadership
skills, your influence withthem, your vision so that they
can see where you're going as aleadership and be able to follow
(10:06):
you again to reach that ultimatepinnacle of uh success.
SPEAKER_01 (10:10):
That's a million-dollar tip right there
for anybody that's a founder,CEO of a business, because you
start losing all your staff,your business is in trouble for
probably the wrong reasons.
So I I read and you sent me someinformation that you had a
childhood event having thatimpacted your life.
I believe your past experiences,not all of it, some live with
you.
What was the impact you had as achild?
SPEAKER_02 (10:31):
Oh, wow.
Well, I mean, I I I love that asa story, and there's so many
that could talk.
Many people talk about bigthings that they've overcome.
For me, it was uh simply youknow being bullied as a child
and you know, understanding thatI was definitely different.
I grew up in a town uh that wasuh primarily Italian, influence
that was inside the town.
(10:51):
I loved the food and I loved allthat went along with it.
But this uh tall guy with redhair uh and a big head stood
out, no doubt about it, andbecame an easy target for that.
And oftentimes, if I if I'mbeing you know brutally honest,
it was an opportunity for me uhto then rather than to fight
that is trying to find somebodyelse that I could do the same.
And I tell you, I look back onthat right now in terms of as a
(11:14):
child and ultimately have beendisappointed in myself for that
behavior.
But really thinking about againwhen coaching kids today and
observing that behavior, I mean,I've heard you're most
powerfully positioned to helpthe person that you used to be
in your leadership development,whatever that means.
And I have an opportunity toinfluence others.
And that whether that's coachingmy son's basketball team and not
(11:35):
accepting some of thosebehaviors with regards to
bullying or things that aregoing on, coaching uh
individuals in the church, youngadults, or frankly coaching
folks that I've led in businessas well and not allowing those
behaviors to happen, uh, orteaching folks what the impact
of kindness and influence can berather than uh trying to
(11:56):
dominate someone and how theresults can be more significant.
It's something that I try from amindset standpoint not to harp
on a whole lot and say that Ihave a chip on my shoulder about
it, but it's certainlyinfluenced my leadership style
uh over the years.
SPEAKER_01 (12:10):
It's in your radar because you experience it.
And I it's interesting youmentioned bully.
You're the third guest this lasttwo weeks that mentioned
bullying.
It's a problem, and especiallynow with technology.
SPEAKER_02 (12:20):
Yeah, different kind of bullying today, the
electronic bullying that exists.
Goodness gracious.
SPEAKER_01 (12:24):
Yeah, and I think kindness is the key.
That that's the big start ofthat.
This has been staring now,audience.
If you're listening or listeningto this podcast and not
watching, John's got a greatt-shirt that says excellent.
What's your definition ofexcellence?
How do you input that in yourcoaching and consulting?
SPEAKER_02 (12:40):
Yeah, thanks for asking it.
And it is that excellence onlyhappens on purpose.
I can't, I don't have it quitehigh enough, but it is uh it
ultimately uh when I think aboutuh going in with organizations,
I want them to set what theythey really want their North
Star to be.
I often refer to it in theframework as their so that.
You know, they have anopportunity to do some work,
they know they must change, butit's so that they have that
(13:02):
impact that they want to.
And that often feels like anideal state or perfection that
they're shooting for.
And sometimes that feels justquite out of reach.
But of going back to a sportsanalysis analogy, Vince Lombardi
had a quote where he says, Youshould strive for perfection and
strive for that every day.
Know that you might reachexcellence on the way there.
(13:23):
And so excellence is not the endgame.
Excellence is a place that youget to by doing it on purpose,
by being very intentional withyour habits and disciplines and
being better at your competitionthan doing those daily, weekly,
and monthly things that you haveto do to be successful.
And not just at work as well,but in taking care of your own
(13:43):
health and taking care of yourfinances and taking care of your
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Now, let's get back to the aswell, being intentional about
that.
The saying I'd love to say therewas really something, but I have
a a picture that's up in myoffice and probably should get a
small one for behind me thatsays oaks excellence only
happens on purpose.
And there's a picture, it wasfrom the Liberty University
president who posted it on hisInstagram page.
(14:46):
And it was actually a picture inthe background of my son
carrying a flag.
He was the cheerleader atLiberty University, a huge flag
across the football field atLiberty University.
So 120 yards each time theyscored a touchdown.
When he was there, Hugh Freezewas the head coach.
They were scoring a lot ofpoints and a lot of touchdowns.
And he'd have to run that thing120 yards through the wind, even
(15:08):
through the weather and whateverthat meant.
And being able to do that wasonly going to be done through
the discipline he had to do toget stronger and be involved
that every day.
So it's just a reminder to methat if I'm going to achieve the
things that I want to, that Ineed to do that on purpose and
be very intentional with it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:22):
Might be a tough question, John, but I like what
you're doing and saying.
Can anybody be excellent?
SPEAKER_02 (15:27):
I think so.
I absolutely do.
Look, here's what I believe.
Folks who have good intention,okay, and I think many of I
again, I believe folks have goodintention, but they have good
intention without discipline,that leads to excuses.
But if you have good disciplinewith good intentions, then that
leads to excellence.
And so those two thingstogether, those are things that
anyone can do.
Whether it's read, you know,becoming a reader.
(15:49):
I love the quote.
I don't have time to read.
But the simple math is this if Iread 10 pages a day, the average
leadership book is 220 pages.
I can read a book every 22 days.
I can read 12, 13 books a yearsimply by putting the time in my
calendar to spend 10 minutes toread 10 pages in a book.
You know, oftentimes folks willsay I'm not a reader.
And our mutual uh friend NickHutchison would say it's the
(16:12):
$10,000 rule that if I gave you$10,000 to read a book over the
next 30 days, I bet you couldget that book read.
So if what's got what's moreimportant to you, it's getting
your priorities in line ratherthan sitting down and binging on
a Netflix series that's notadding any value to you or
scrolling endlessly throughsocial media in the name of
(16:33):
personal development at times orwhatever that means for us, but
just become intentional withjust 10 minutes a day inside of
our space.
What that can lead to from adevelopment standpoint is
powerful.
SPEAKER_01 (16:42):
Okay, I'm gonna recap that again because that's
a powerful message because the$10,000 is legit, meaning you
read 12 books.
Are you gonna make an extra10,000?
Again, it depends what you sell,but absolutely, probably much
more than that.
That's right.
So it's 10 pages a day, averagepage is 220 pages per book.
That's 22 days to finish a book,about 12 to 13 a year.
SPEAKER_02 (17:05):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (17:06):
And what do you think most people are reading in
a year on a oh well?
SPEAKER_02 (17:08):
I mean, the data would tell you that um at least
50% of Americans don't pick upanother book after they graduate
from high school or college, andthat's part of the horrendous
part of it.
Um, those individuals that areuh reading 10, 12 books a year,
I think are in the top onepercent with regards to
individuals who are doingleadership development.
There's just not that manypeople that are doing it.
It's hard, it's it's hard, butit's not really hard, it's
(17:31):
actually simple.
And simple is hard because youhave to be disciplined.
SPEAKER_01 (17:35):
John, you're brilliant because you just you
just lived your words.
It's simple.
Can I do 10 pages a day?
Was it 15 minutes?
Can I carve off 15 minutes andthen go watch your Netflix, you
know, or scroll on, but get yourpriorities straight.
I'm getting fired up herebecause I love what you said.
When it's teaching me, you know,I'll do a couple pages, but my
goal is 10 pages a day.
That's it.
Then I put the book away andthen I can do those other
(17:57):
things.
I always say 1% every day, getbetter 1% every day, and there's
your 1% right there.
SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
Love that.
That's hanging up in the gymover there, which is another
one.
You want to get better in thefitness world, get yourself in
the gym, right?
Well, I you know I just don'thave time to do that.
Well, you know, the heaviest,the heaviest weight that's in
the gym is the front door.
You just got to get through thefront door.
Once you're in there, you'regonna make it happen.
SPEAKER_01 (18:16):
I ran health clubs and I've never heard that, and
that's a good one.
Yeah, and your health as aconsultant, if you don't have
your health as a CEO, founder,entrepreneur, you don't have a
business.
SPEAKER_02 (18:26):
I agree with you 100%, yeah, Steven.
I I I mean, that's part of mystory.
Uh, it was eight years ago,2017, I had a health scare and I
was uh 80 pounds overweight.
And I just had gotten to thepoint where I was sick and tired
of being sick and tired.
And I walked into a a gym thathad trainers that I had driven
by for years and looked at it.
And the first trainer that Icame up to, I told her, I said,
I need help.
(18:46):
I think we need coaches in allthose areas that we want to get
better at.
And over a three-year journey,uh, I was able to lose 80 pounds
and have since uh kept thatweight off over a period of
years.
But again, because it takesdiscipline, part it became part
of my lifestyle.
The hashtag I used to use backin that time, you know,
something again starts with asimple step.
What's one thing you caneliminate from your diet just to
(19:06):
get you better?
And mine was hashtag stop eatingfrench fries.
I was eating french fries everyday, twice a day on meals and
everything else because I lovedthem.
And I still am able to eat thosetoday.
But if you eat them five days aweek, just try three days a week
and replace those French frieswith, you know, lettuce or salad
from a fitness standpoint.
And again, how I correlate thatto business is you know, like,
what is that French fry in yourbusiness that you get caught up
(19:29):
in?
Is it the emails that you getcaught up in that you just got
to unsubscribe from two of thosetwo or three of those emails
every day to start reducing thenumber that you have uh that can
help you on the business side aswell?
SPEAKER_01 (19:40):
Yeah, it's funny you say the French fry business.
I talked to a mentor or abusiness entrepreneur mentoring,
he'd watch Netflix on hiscomputer in his office.
I'm like, that's a half hour.
He goes, It's only a half hour,but you're not reading the book
either.
I I audience, if you're notgetting this, he's really making
it simple to grow and makemoney.
That's the bottom line.
We all need money.
(20:01):
You all are listening to this,one to be a servant's heart, but
that leads to the revenueincrease somehow, some way,
somewhere, doing the rightthings.
We're coming to the end here.
Tell us a quick story of abusiness you work with, brought
them excellence, taught themcoaching, taught them uh
champion and growing champions,and and how it worked out.
SPEAKER_02 (20:21):
Yeah, so you know, one of the things in terms of
competitive spirit, uh, and Ilike to use sports videos uh to
and short video clips to uh helpmake uh teaching moments
possible.
And I was coaching an executiveteam for a large uh healthcare
company, and I showed a videofrom the movie, I believe I
(20:42):
believe it was uh wasn'tCourageous, it was uh running
with the Giants, and it was uhthe same maker of the movie,
Courageous, and it was about thecrab walk across the football
field and how folks uh keepthemselves from succeeding at a
higher level because they setlimiting beliefs in front of
them.
And I sat that through, and I'llnever forget the CEO of that
(21:03):
organization in tears after thatvideo was done.
And he says that you're exactlyright.
If we could just take thegoggles off where we see our own
limiting beliefs that we're onlyable to get to a certain point
and strive again for thatperfection that we're looking
for, we would get much farther.
Look, I worked with thatorganization for seven years as
(21:23):
a consultant for a largecompany, and they were able to
transform the way they cared fortheir patients.
They were able to transform theresults that they had overall,
and they were able to transformtheir leadership uh into a
space.
And what it what it really ledto with this leader is he he
retired and he had written aweekly newsletter for about
seven years with his company.
(21:43):
And I was coaching him still,even after he retired, he was
the CEO emeritus.
And I saw the first time hisweekly newsletter didn't come
out.
And I said to the CEO, Imentioned him by name, and I
said, Where's your newsletter?
He said, Well, I'm I'm retirednow.
I'm not gonna write it.
I'm like, No, absolutely not.
I said, You have to write morenow.
It's freeing you up from thedevelopment so that you can
(22:05):
continue to add value, not justto your organization, but now
the people out in the communityand the country need to hear
what you have to say.
And he has since put thattogether where he's been doing
it for another nine years as aretired CEO and sharing uh that
uh newsletter with folks on aweekly basis.
So I I love the to see thechanges of the people.
(22:26):
If I could just kind of shareone more story, because to me, I
I refer to it as the greateststory ever told, is that you're
gonna there's gonna be a time inin your life or somebody else's
life where somebody's gonna askyou to write down the names of
the individuals who have had apositive impact on your life.
And for me, that's the greatestevery greatest story ever told,
even though you may never knowit, is when somebody writes your
(22:47):
name on their list of somebodywho's made a positive impact
back to servant leadership allthe way around the circle.
So the question you know youhave as leaders to be
intentional is who's going towrite your name on their list?
And if you know who that is, youneed to go out and start
building those relationshipsintentionally so they can impact
(23:07):
that person.
It might be a family member,might be a friend, it might be a
business client that you'retrying to impact to write your
name.
But that's the greatest storyever told to me.
SPEAKER_01 (23:17):
I'm rarely speechless because the first
thought came in, I just got anemail three days ago.
You put us together in a youknow, in an email, introduced
them.
It was the best meeting we'vehad in five years.
Thank you for thinking of bothof us.
And audience, uh me and Johnaren't pumping our egos up.
We're just telling you, when youhave a servant's heart, it's
like Christmas gifts every day.
(23:39):
And that's how I relate to it.
So thank you for sharing that.
And the crab walk uh video.
I'm gonna actually watch itafter we get done here.
That's where the guy sits on topof them.
Yes, he puts the kid on top ofthe top.
Yeah, and the coaches yelling atme, I can't do it.
I can't uh audience, pleasewatch that.
And I'm gonna watch it and savethat because I'm getting chills
right now.
I've got I've got a funquestion.
I always like to end with thisgreat question.
(24:00):
All right.
So we've got a reservation at arestaurant.
You do, you got a table of four.
You obviously get to sit in oneof the chairs.
In the other three chairs, deador alive, who are you gonna
invite?
Why are they invited?
And what food would you order?
SPEAKER_02 (24:13):
Oh, what food would I order?
Wow, here we go.
Well, I won't say, say, we'reall on the same path now.
What are we gonna do now?
Absolutely.
Well, you know, I I I love thisquestion.
It's kind of fun and it's alwayshard.
But I mean, look, it it feels uha little bit self-serving in and
of itself, but I would put uhJesus at the table in one of
those seats.
(24:34):
And the reason I say that is,you know, as we talked about
that again, he was able to uhdevelop 12 individuals to do
uncommon things, common men todo uncommon things.
And as you read through the NewTestament, listen in, Jesus
rarely answered a questiondirectly.
He was the ultimate coach.
Somebody would ask him aquestion, and 380 times he was
(24:56):
asked a question, and only 18times did he answer that
question directly.
Outside of that, he'd answer itwith another question, he'd
answer it with a parable, he'danswer it with an example of
what he had been through insideof his life.
And I love that from hisstandpoint.
I just want to learn about howhe would be at answering
questions.
Uh, the second person I'd putthere with regards to uh
(25:16):
especially things we're going totoday is Ronald Reagan.
And how was he ultimately theunifier that he was in the space
that he was in?
I mean, look, he's an actor inmovies, and I didn't see all of
his movies, Betty Davis moviesand all those things, he uh
governor of California.
Uh, but ultimately as apresident, look, people can
debate and argue all they wantto about who was the best
(25:37):
president in the world.
But in my time, uh, he's beenone of the most influential
people when it came to uhrelationships across the board,
across the aisle, uh, across theglobe, and I think was really
powerful.
SPEAKER_00 (25:48):
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