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The raw truth about our pain stories is that they're not just wounds—they're doorways to profound transformation. At some point, we've all found ourselves stuck in the friend's trauma loop, reliving our heartbreak and betrayal until it becomes part of our identity. But there comes a pivotal moment when we must ask: what if this pain wasn't meant to break you, but to wake you up?

This transformative episode explores the crucial difference between our human experience and our soul's purpose on earth. When a friend came to me shattered by divorce, still loving his ex-wife despite her destructive path, I asked him questions that stopped him in his tracks: "What was the gift she came to give you? What did she teach you?" Two months later, he texted that the list of gifts from this painful experience was "endless"—the perspective shift had completely transformed him.

The alchemy of consciousness happens when we transition from 3D thinking (victimhood, confusion, blame) to 4D awareness (purpose, lessons, growth). This doesn't mean the pain disappears, but it's no longer the center of our story. The ancient wisdom teachings remind us: "There are no mistakes, only lessons" and "Others are merely mirrors of you." When we understand these truths, we begin to recognize that even the most toxic relationships serve as profound teachers.

Consider your own pain story—what memory loops inside you like a ghost with no home? More importantly, are you ready to find the lesson it came to teach? Because whatever broke inside of you might have been just the shell, and what's being born now is the real you—wiser, more compassionate, more embodied. This is your invitation to cross the threshold from victim to alchemist, from broken to becoming.

Take a moment to reflect on these journal prompts: What pain story have I been repeating? What soul lesson might it be carrying? What gift or strength did I gain? Remember, you are not your pain—you are the one who witnessed it, learned from it, and chose to rise anyway.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Season 4 of the Undetected Narcissist
Podcast.
Your host, angela Meyer, ishere to bring you clarity if you
are stuck in confusion,self-doubt or feel lost, without
a sense of direction.
This podcast is extremelydifferent because Angela comes
from a place of wisdom,compassion and has been able to
forgive the unforgivable.

(00:22):
She's a mental healthprofessional, trauma-informed
human consciousness guide andempowerment strategist.
She knows one can't truly healand recover when one is stuck in
hate, anger and fear.
One must rise above it, findmeaning, understanding,
compassion for oneself and thetoxic people within our lives.

(00:45):
This season is aboutself-empowerment,
self-realizations andtransformation.
There is always a blog postsupporting this information, so
please visitundetectednarcissistcom so get
ready to learn about yourself,others and find a way to truly
live and thrive.

(01:06):
Once again, enjoy the show.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Hello everyone and welcome back to the Undetected
Narcissist.
Today we're going to exploresome deep, deep concepts the
pain story or the soul lesson.
The Pain Story or the SoulLesson this episode explores how

(01:29):
we can shift from a state ofvictimhood to one of soul
alchemy, transforming heartbreakinto healing and pain into a
source of power.
Today I'm going to pierce theveils for others who are still
caught or unconsciously investedin the loop of the pain story.
So please sit back and getready to dive into the deep end

(01:52):
of the ocean with me.
Okay, we all carry a story fullof pain, heartbreak, sadness,
disappointment and regrets.
The betrayal and breakup can beall-consuming and overwhelming.
To handle these fragile momentswhen everything fell apart, a

(02:16):
moment that split us open, aperson who left us aching, a
chapter that felt like the end,sound familiar?
It sure does to me, because Ihave walked that path a few
times in my life.
We repeat it to ourselves andothers, sometimes for years,

(02:40):
stuck in the friend's traumaloop of trying to figure out why
this happened to me, feelingraw and extremely confused.
We rehearse the pain until itbecomes part of our identity, a
kind of a scar.
We press A scab.
We keep scratching over andover to remember we're still

(03:02):
alive.
But what if that story wasn'tmeant to break you?
What if it was meant to wakeyou up, like mine did and many
others I've helped over theyears?
Recently, a friend came to me.
He was shattered, full of shame, stuck in the salvation mindset

(03:22):
.
Stuck in the salvation mindset,and his heart was cracked wide
open from a painful divorce.
He shared the rawness of hisjourney, the grief, the
disorientation, the shame, guiltand the ache of loss.
Tears perched and just stood inthe little corners of his eyes

(03:44):
as he spoke because deep downinside he still loved her.
He was so stuck in the humanexperience that he could not see
past the soul's purpose.
I listened with compassion andfelt his deep pain.
It made me recall a few momentsin my life when I questioned

(04:04):
why someone I loved so deeplywould not and could not change
because they were on aself-destructive path.
Since I am here to heal, notharm or just bitch about his ex,
I knew he needed my support.
So I gently asked him a fewquestions that I've learned to

(04:26):
ask myself and others when thesoul is ready.
And it stopped him in histracks.
What was the gift she came togive you?
What did she teach you?
What did you learn?
Do you see the gifts she gaveyou?

(04:46):
I knew the gifts, the teachingsand the lessons, but I wanted
to know if he could see as well.
He was so invested in his humanpain story that he couldn't see
the gifts his ex-wife gave himfrom a soul perspective, and I
knew that once he grasped it,everything would transform.

(05:10):
The sad truth is that beinghuman is not easy.
In fact, at times it sucks bigtime.
Our painful emotions can stopus from finding a positive
solution.
That is why most people cannotseparate the soul's purpose here
on earth from the humanexperience.
We are not taught todistinguish between the soul and

(05:34):
the human experience, but thatis why I'm here Additionally.
I believe that is why Pixarcreated the animated movie Soul
to help us humans understandthat our soul is here to learn
lessons and experience life inthis physical form.
This is what it said onlineabout the movie Soul.

(05:56):
The Pixar movie Soul exploresthe meaning of life, challenging
the idea that purpose is solelydefined by career or ambition.
It suggests that life'srichness lies in appreciating
everyday experiences, humanconnections and the simple joys

(06:18):
that makes us feel alive, ratherthan solely pursuing a singular
grand ambition.
Back to my friend.
So he didn't have an answerright away.
That's okay.
The soul takes time to digestthe medicine of a lesson.
It can be like a pill that istoo big to swallow.

(06:41):
We need to break it down intopieces before we can fully
digest it.
Therefore, two months havepassed, but this morning he
texted me.
This is what he said.
You were right.
It took me a while, but Iunderstand the questions now.
Thank you, god bless you, myfriend.

(07:03):
Ever since you asked me thosequestions and told me to think
about it, I haven't been able toget it out of my head.
Over time it changed me in somany ways, all for the good.
My list is endless.
Endless, that's the word heused.

(07:25):
Endless, because once you shiftyour perception from wound to
wisdom, the whole story beginsto change.
The pain didn't disappear, butit no longer is the center of
the story.
Let me make this crystal clearthe rawness story.
Let me make this crystal clearthe rawness.
The open wound was no longerpicked at daily.

(07:48):
The wisdom he gathered andintegrated within his
consciousness released theinvisible etheric emotional
cords which were the main reasonhe was still energetically in
pain from the thoughts of grief,sadness, heartbreak and shame.
Instead, what spiraled to thesurface was a deeper knowing, a

(08:15):
soul recognition.
Thus the experience camebearing gifts, even if they were
wrapped in heartbreak.
Once we step out of the humanexperience and align with the
soul's purpose, we begin to lookfor the lessons and the gifts
within the grief.
That is when the entireuniverse rearranges itself and

(08:37):
responds to our call to awakenand remember, to remember who
and what we are.
You are more than this physicalform.
And he got it.
It just took him a little whileto grasp the concept, because
the grief was overwhelming andkept him trapped in 3D human

(08:59):
consciousness.
We are not here to suffer.
We are here to expand, learn,grow and evolve into a higher
state of consciousness.
That is why these painful lifelessons serve a positive purpose
.
Without chaos, there would beno need for change or expansion.

(09:22):
And the reality is that wecannot see it when we are stuck
in the lower thought patterns,behaviors or expansion.
And the reality is that wecannot see it when we are stuck
in the lower thought patterns,behaviors or beliefs.
We must spiral upward, and thattakes courage, because our
prideful ego wants to keep usstuck and controlled by our
negative emotions.
It's almost like a fear virusis controlling us and we need to

(09:46):
detox.
Those who can master theiremotions are brave warriors,
because it takes a great deal ofstrength to stand in the face
of contempt, deception and fear.
We grab hold of the couragewithin us to see it for what it

(10:07):
truly is, in the face of anotherwanting to destroy or cripple
us.
It is not about you, dear one.
It is all about them feelingsmall, out of control, powerless
, weak and insignificant.
It is like a mirror projectionthat blinds us from seeing the

(10:31):
truth.
But it is not a light thatblinds us, but the dark shadows
of deception and trickery.
The trick for us humans is tolearn how to see past the human
experience and into our soul'slesson here on earth through the
eyes of compassion, wisdom andstrength for what it is, not

(10:54):
what society, family or socialmedia wants you to believe.
When we all learn this trick,we will be in alignment with our
true power and purpose, alignedwith our soul's purpose to
evolve, expand and gain a deeperunderstanding of life on earth.

(11:16):
What felt like punishmentbecomes initiation.
In fact, what seems like a lossbecomes liberation, and what
hurts you now humbles and healsyou simply by stepping out of
the human experience and intothe soul's journey here on earth

(11:36):
.
That is why I say that everyoneis a teacher and student to one
another.
Are you still confused, or haveI nailed it?
Here are some examples.
One if your parents sucked atparenting and you are an awesome
parent, that's a gift.

(11:57):
You have broken the cycle ofgenerational trauma and abuse by
modeling what an awesome parentis like for your children.
You should be proud of thisachievement instead of stuck in
disappointment that your parentssucked at parenting, because we
must remember, the way thatthey were parented was much,

(12:19):
much worse than yours.
So count your blessings.
Two your ex left you for another.
When we begin to begin thehealing process, we eventually
realize that we don't want himback.
Good riddance, and I feel sorryfor the next victim.
We recognize that this persontaught us what genuine love is

(12:42):
not.
Taught us what genuine love isnot, and now we are open to
discovering and experiencingauthentic love one day, either
through friendship, owning a petor having a partner.
Number three some people arehere to teach us about
self-respect, why we should notsettle for less, why boundaries

(13:03):
are necessary, how we shouldgive and receive, and that we
are worthy of receiving.
Where everyone was verballyabused, you will learn the
importance of why we should notweaponize our words to wound

(13:24):
another, how to speak from ourgentle hearts and not our
wounded hearts or ego.
That is a gift.
The lesson was painful, but youcan break that cycle of abuse.
But you can break that cycle ofabuse.
And last one, number fiveunconditional love is the
hardest lesson to learn.

(13:45):
That is what my friend had tolearn and it hurt.
He wanted his ex to stop doingdrugs, selling her body to
purchase drugs and go to rehab,but she refused.
Purchase drugs and go to rehab,but she refused, threatened to
even kill herself.
His love for her was so deepbut instead of feeling like a

(14:08):
failure because he couldn't saveher to heal and learn life
lessons, he had to see it from ahigher perspective.
It is like that saying you cantake a horse to water but you
cannot force it to drink.
He wanted her to drink, but hersoul did not.

(14:28):
She is a profound teacher forhim.
I know this might seem likewoo-woo stuff, but it's the
truth and it's what helps usheal, to detach from the grief
and remove the veil that keepsus stuck in fear.
He even texted me back when Ishared this concept and he said

(14:51):
you're very good at it.
With a smile emoji.
He feels so blessed and you cantoo one day.
This is the alchemy ofconsciousness Transitioning from
3D to 4D and removing the veilthat blocks our ability to see
the truth behind the pain, tearsand heartache.

(15:13):
Some of us might not like thistruth, but this is how we evolve
as a species.
We get to decide how long weintend to or want to suffer, as
seen in the story of Sue, whowas stuck in people-pleasing.
I realize in my healing journeythat this is the missing golden

(15:36):
key for transformation and soulremembrance.
For example, remember the rulesfor being human from the
ancient transcripts.
I have not shared this wisdomon this platform yet and I've
only shared it on my otherwebsite and podcast, master the
Upper Rooms of HumanConsciousness.
So let me read this ancientwisdom the rules for being human

(16:02):
.
One you'll receive a body.
You might like it or not, butit will be yours for the entire
period.
Round Two you will learn lessons.
You are enrolled in a full-timeinformal school called Life.
Each day in this school, youwill have the opportunity to

(16:22):
learn lessons.
You may like the lessons orthink them irrelevant and stupid
.
Three there are no mistakes,only lessons.
Growth is a process of trialand error.
You're experimenting.
The failed experiments are amuch part of the process of the

(16:47):
experiment that ultimately works.
Four a lesson is repeated untilit is learned.
A lesson will repeat to you invarious forms until you have
learned it.
Then you can go on to the nextlesson.
Number five learning lessonsdoes not end.
There is no part of life thatdoes not contain its lessons.

(17:08):
If you are alive, there arelessons to be learned.
Six there is no better thanhere is no better than here.
When your there has become here, you will simply obtain another
there that will again lookbetter than here.
Number seven others are merelymirrors of you.

(17:29):
You cannot love or hatesomething about another unless
it reflects to you something youlove or hate about yourself.
It reflects to you somethingyou love or hate about yourself.
Number eight what you make ifyour life is up to you.
You have all the tools andresources you need.
What you do with them is up toyou.

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The choice is yours.
And number nine the answer lieinside you.
The answer of life's questionslie inside you.
All you need to do is look,listen and trust.
Since I am raw and honest, Iwant to remind everyone about
the gifts and lessons toxic andnarcissistic people gave us.

(18:15):
If you read my book, you'refamiliar with my pain story.
I was dragged through court formy spiritual beliefs.
The lies he told left mespeechless.
I froze in shock.
Therefore, I was trying toplease and appease everyone, to
reveal the truth, but nobodywould listen to me.
Instead, the legal systembelieved the narcissistic smear

(18:38):
campaign against me.
Therefore, I was devastated andangry.
I almost quit everything.
I even lost faith in humanityand our Creator.
But the Divine sent me aCatholic nun, someone who
matched my PTSD, to remind me ofmy light, my truth calling from

(19:01):
the divine and soul purpose.
You would not be listening tothis wisdom if our creator had
not sent her.
After one session with me, sheknew that the divine spoke to me
and worked with me to heal, notharm, another.
I do it through compassion,kindness and unconditional love.

(19:22):
I mirror to them what they seekbecause I see the light and
potential within everyone I meet.
Therefore, the most significantblessings and gifts for me have
been this podcast and blog postcontent.
Our creator and others called meto create this information to

(19:44):
help heal the world, because Icould have sat in my pain and
felt sorry for myself, cut offfrom the world, close my
practice and believe the worldis just too dark for me to
handle.
I never got justice, sympathyor kindness.
Therefore, everyone can go tohell.
I could have allowed all thisdivine, ancient sacred wisdom

(20:08):
and teachings to stay bottledinside of me and let others
suffer like I was.
Suffering inside, was sufferinginside, yet I would not be true
to myself or my soul's purpose.
All this information you hearor see is divinely called upon
for me to write and shed lightupon, because currently the

(20:30):
world needs more hope,inspiration, guidance and people
are waking up as a societalwhole.
We are tired of the 3D frameworkand our hearts and soul now
yearn to live, not merely exist.
We learn to live in a moreharmonious world, such as 4D and

(20:53):
5D ways of thinking, acting andbehaving.
Our hearts and soul desirepeace, not war.
Clean water, not toxic water,organic foods instead of foods
filled with pesticides and otherchemicals that cause disease
within the body.
We want affordable housing,child care and other reusable

(21:15):
natural forms of energy.
Imagine a world of connectionand community rather than one of
separation and fear.
It would be amazing.
Therefore, if I wanted to healand then heal the world, I had
to get out of my humanexperience and into soul

(21:38):
remembrance.
I had to learn the art offorgiving the unforgivable, how
to accept and communicate withtoxic people.
How to spot the traits andbehaviors of toxic or
narcissistic people, tounderstand that we create
narcissists and sociopaths.
Flip the script pain story intoself-empowerment and rebirth.

(22:03):
Remember why my soul is hereand let go of my attachments to
the human experience and riseabove it like the phoenix.
When someone is our mirror.
Now, some people are mirrorsand I must explain this concept.

(22:23):
I was working with a podcastlady and she shared her painful
story for about 30 minutes.
It was like she had a lot tosay and she did.
Her physical pain is linked toher relationship with her
vulnerable, narcissistic mother.
This woman makes her feel andthink that she is undeserving

(22:44):
and will never be good enough.
Her mother, when she remarried,never included her in any
family gatherings or photos.
She felt abandoned by her andjudged.
When she tried to reason withher mother and explain how she
felt, she would guilt, trip herand fill her with shame.

(23:04):
I could hear the unspoken wordsof why, why, why.
Yet I knew the why and I had toshine my light into those dark,
painful corners where the truthexists.
When I said to her, your motheris your mirror, she was puzzled.
She said what do you mean?

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I told her she is the polaropposite of you.
You are here to heal, not harm.
She gets off on judging peopleand you believe in equality and
acceptance.
You are kind, loving, funny,rebellious and refuse to conform
, yet you remain liberated.

(23:48):
She looks down upon everyone,uses your physical pain
conditions to gain sympathy fromothers instead of supporting
you and is a miserable humanbeing.
Count your blessings.
You are not her.
She is here for a reason andshe is a teacher of the polar
opposite.

(24:09):
You inspire growth with yourpodcast, but she does not,
because she is stuck in a 3Dmindset.
That is why she cannotunderstand you.
Her soul signed up for this jobto be your teacher in this
lifetime.
For example, you use words ofkindness instead of verbal abuse

(24:33):
, kindness instead of verbalabuse.
And how she has power andcontrol over you is by lowering
your vibration, by making youbelieve or think that there is
something wrong with you, whenin fact there is nothing wrong
with you.
It is your pain story thatkeeps you stuck.
We must understand that we aremultiidimensional, encompassing

(24:56):
both the soul and the humanexperience.
When we do not understand thiswisdom and truth, that is when
they have complete power andcontrol over you the way you
think, act, behave, believe andlive your life.
And the truth is she isexcellent at controlling you.

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Can you now see the differenceand why she is here?
She is your mirror and that iswhy, when you try to talk about
the traumatic experiences withher, she says what trauma
experiences with her.

(25:39):
She says what trauma she cannotrelate.
She stuffs down her feelings,is stuck in denial and pretends
that her shit doesn't stink.
Can you see the truth now?
Do you get it?
She was quiet for a while.
I could see the wheels spinningin her mind.
Then she said you are correct.

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I never thought about it fromthat perspective.
I could see her pain andheartache softening with this
new realization and wisdom.
Then I said she is your teacher.
You have transformed your paininto empowerment by creating a

(26:21):
fabulous podcast about thestruggles of dealing with
physical pain.
This is a gift.
Now we need to transform thatphysical pain into a place of
healing for you.
Transform that physical paininto a place of healing for you,
this pain can soften and nolonger feel like a life sentence

(26:41):
.
So I ask you now, dear one dearsoul, on the path, what have
you lived through that stillfeels like a wound, but might
actually be a teacher?
Like a wound, but mightactually be a teacher?

(27:01):
Ask yourself what was the giftthe person came to give you,
what was the gift they came toprovide you with?
What did you learn?
What was this experience hereto show me?
What soul pattern was itmirroring that I cannot see or
understand?
What strength did I growbecause of it?

(27:22):
What truth did I reclaim?
What part of me came home?
Let yourself write the list.
You might be surprised how longit is Endless.
Maybe Pain is part of the humanexperience, not the soul's.
But staying stuck in the storyis a choice.

(27:45):
You can rewrite it and you canfind the golden nuggets in the
ashes.
Just like the phoenix risesfrom the ashes, we can too.
I did, he did, you can too oneday, and when you come upon that

(28:06):
day of self-discovery andawakening, you too will feel
blessed instead of wounded andshattered inside.
So again, I ask you now?
What pain story are you stillcarrying?
What memory loops inside of youlike a ghost with no home?

(28:28):
And, more importantly, are youready to find the lesson it came
to teach you?
Are you ready to find thelesson it came to teach you?
Because the truth is thatperson, that relationship, that
rupture, it may have brokensomething up inside of you, yes,

(28:49):
but maybe what broke was theshell and what's being born now.
Is you the real you?
Yes, the awakened you, thewiser, more compassionate, more

(29:11):
embodied you.
So here's your invitation Takea breath and ask yourself what
was this experience here to showme?
What mirror did I hold up to mysoul?
What did I reclaim because ofit?

(29:32):
What boundaries did I learn tohold?
What love did I learn to givemyself?
Write it down, speak it outloud, let the answers surprise
you, and if you feel like sayingmy list is endless, then

(29:55):
welcome, soul traveler.
You've found the lesson.
You've crossed the thresholdfrom victim to alchemist, from
broken to becoming.
Here are some journal promptsand take these into your own
sacred practice.
What pain story have I beenrepeating?

(30:18):
What soul lesson might it becarrying?
What gift or strength did Igain because of it?
Am I ready to let the old storysoften, and here is a positive
affirmation you can write downand repeat throughout your day I

(30:39):
am not my pain, I am the soulwho rose from it.
Like always, I have a gift foryou, dear one.
I have created a guidedmeditation titled Finding the
Gift in the Pain.
Listen as often as you need tocrack open that shell of pain.

(30:59):
This gentle meditation guidesyou inward to receive the wisdom
, reclaim the gift and rewritethe story.
As we close for today, rememberyou are not your pain.
You are the one who witnessedit, learned from it and chose to

(31:25):
rise anyway.
This is the sacred art of thesoul's transformation, and this
is what we're here to dotogether.
Thank you for walking this pathwith me.
If this episode touched you,share it with someone who's
still stuck in pain.

(31:45):
Their pain story, be the mirrorof transformation, be the
midwife of their awakening.
Until next time, stay open andsoft and remember the lesson and
teachings are already insideyou, in love and light.
Angela Meyer, carrie Logan Bye.
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