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December 12, 2025 59 mins

The room goes quiet when someone tells the truth: the fluffy stuff isn’t changing us. We trade comfort for transformation and ask what power actually feels like in a woman’s body—how it vibrates through ritual, how it steadies in the spine when you stop apologizing, and how it holds compassion without shrinking. Nicole shares the jolt of leading a raw activation at a Mexico retreat and the aftershock of wondering if “too much” is actually exactly right. Adriana reframes soft and strong as boundaries with love. Jess unpacks channeling, yoga teacher training, and the courage to lead beyond her local template. Rachel claims witchcraft, sacred rage, and the moment she stopped making herself digestible.

We dig into why circles can feel beautiful yet incomplete, why copycat culture breeds safety over change, and why depth does not need to be mean to be powerful. The conversation moves from business realities—naming a gift that refuses one label, building offers that are more initiation than inspiration—to embodiment: weightlifting roars, road-opening rituals, and rest as sacred integration after big energetic work. Along the way we confront “crab mentality,” the social reflex that pulls climbers back, and share a clearer map: different realities can coexist, and not every room deserves your frequency.

If you’ve felt alone carving your own lane, this one’s a hand on your back. Borrow our questions to find your edge: Where are you performing? Where are you hiding? What would power look like if you stopped being digestible? We’re getting ready for our sacred feminine retreat and holding each other to the fire—no more safe templates, only what actually transforms. If that’s your language, press play, subscribe, and leave a review with the moment that moved you most. Then share this with a friend who’s done playing small.

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SPEAKER_04 (02:25):
Hello, everyone.
Welcome to the latest edition ofthe Weatherman Witches
reconvening to talk about powerand reclaiming our power and
what that means for each of us.
And so I'm so grateful we're allhere.
Just a reminder, I am NicolePope.
We also have Adriana Keefe,Rachel Phelan, and Jess.

(02:45):
Oh my gosh, are we blanking onyour last name, Jess?
Bridge.
That's right.
How did I forget that?
It's such a yoga move, too.
Oh my God.
Making everybody die in thefirst 10 minutes of this.
Jesus Christ.
Welcome to Nicole's edition ofthe Weather Van Wishes.
Y'all are fucked.
That's all I gotta say.

(03:07):
So this podcast idea, um, again,everything will be in the show
notes in terms of who we are andlinks and all that jazz, but
we're saving you a little timeup front because I think this is
such a meaty topic.
And this idea of reclaiming ourpower came to me from a recent
retreat that I co-hosted inMexico and watching a lot of the

(03:32):
other teachers present theiramazing presentations.
This was a mediumship retreat,but all of it felt really
fluffy.
Like all of it felt veryinteresting and educational, but
it wasn't transformative.
And as I took center stage atthat retreat, the energy was

(03:53):
palpable.
And I really took my two-hourtime slot to really dive in and
create a very transformative,deep connection with Mother
Earth and with where we were inMexico and the connection
between the community that hadmet there very far away from
home.

(04:13):
And it really made me reflectback on in the moment where I
hosted that retreat in my twohours, I felt so out of place
compared to the other teachersbecause what I was delivering
was so deep and so raw and soreal and so transformative
compared to everybody else.
And it made me realize that Ialmost wish I didn't do it

(04:35):
because it felt like it was toomuch.
It was too powerful, it was toooutside of the box of the norm
of the metaphysical leaders thatI've surrounded myself with.
And it really got me thinkingabout how I personally minimize
my power in this space.
And I don't reclaim who I am andwho I'm supposed to be.

(04:58):
And I apologize for how I showup in spaces because I show up
so real and authentically, and Iequate it to slapping people
across the face, to be honestwith you.
And so I wanted to talk thistopic with all of you today,
with the Weather Van, which istoday, to talk about how we
reclaim our power as women inthis space.

(05:20):
Because that is really thesource of why this group came
together, is because we all havethese deep inspirational drives
to transform and change theworld and become the best
versions of ourselves.
And yet, I gotta be honest, wecontinue to play small.
So I wanted to challenge us alltoday and how this year has

(05:45):
allowed us to do this, how howwe can really step forward and
reclaim our power and be trulyauthentic and honest about where
we hold ourselves back and whatour potential is and where we're
going.
So why don't we why don't westart there unless anyone has

(06:06):
any comments they want to addbefore we but I'd love to ask
everybody what's what's yourtake on this?
What's your definition of power?
How do you want to respond towhat I just said?
I feel like I'm gonna go, whoare we going first?

SPEAKER_00 (06:22):
Um, I can take it.
Okay.
Um it's so interesting.
These are things that I thinkabout.
I mean, all this past year I'vebeen saying like power
reclamation is like the thingI'm working through, but there's
so many layers to that.
And when you were messaging usin our group chat about this,
and then you sent that podcastepisode from the shamanic

(06:43):
podcast, and they were talkingabout um, there's so many
beautiful ceremonies and women'scircles and all of that going
around now, which is amazing.
And I can't say I've ever trulybeen to one where the woman
running it was fully in theirpower.
And as they're talking about it,they're talking about like these

(07:03):
fluffy, softer kind ofceremonies, which there is a
time and a place for.
I think some women are here tobring that more gentle,
nurturing energy.
And then some of us, likemyself, we host those things, or
like my retreat I held lastyear, it was everything the
women needed.
And I left still being like, itstill wasn't everything I wanted

(07:25):
to give.
And I could not figure out whatit was.
And that episode you sent us,and where you were talking about
this power versus the fluff, Iwas like, that's fucking it.
I want to be like tribal dancingunder the moonlight and
screaming and howling at themoon.
And I want them to feel thecells in their body vibrating
with power.

(07:46):
And I think I'm one of the veryfew who I know in this area who
can step into that in the typeof circles that I host.
So going forward, I'm reallygetting curious about what is
it?
How is it that I'm going tobring this forward?
And do I have the balls to doit?
Because a lot of women who comeinto my world and come to my

(08:08):
in-person circles, especially,are very new to this.
So, like I'm playing with uh,well, is there one version of
the circle that is soft and anopener for newbies?
Do I host almost like a anotherlevel of one for those who are
like ready to fucking get downand dirty, get in it?
I don't know.
But that hit me.
I've been thinking about it eversince listening to that episode.

(08:30):
That's so fucking true.
That's why when I go to so manycircles, I'm like, this is so
beautiful.
And I still leave with so muchinside that hasn't been
released.
And that's what I see when Ihost for people too.
I'm like, there's stillsomething missing.
So that was a beautifulreflection that you gave me.

SPEAKER_04 (08:48):
I agree.
And I think that's why I shyaway from a lot of in-person
circles and events because Idon't, it needs to be deeper or
I'm not doing it.
Oh my gosh, I love that.
Jess, what are you thinking?

SPEAKER_01 (09:00):
Um, well, first of all, I'm having deja vu like
what you just said.
So I'm like, well, this isexactly what we're supposed to
be talking about today.
And it's super relevant for allof us.
And it's really interestingbecause until you brought it up
last week in our group text,Nicole, we have not really
overtly talked about this, but Ithink it's something we've been

(09:20):
sort of like individuallygrappling with in our like
respective corners.
Um, so I love that we're gettingthis out in the open.
And I think that really speaksto even like what being powerful
is.
And it's really about rippingthings apart, right?
It's about like just being soauthentically like in the

(09:45):
alignment, so much yourself andso connected to the essence of
whatever you are meant to bringinto this world that it's like
you don't water it down, youjust put it out there and like
like literally make people chokeon it, right?
And like change is souncomfortable.
Like, think about even um if youstart a new supplement routine,

(10:09):
right?
Like you start takingsupplements and you get

(12:20):
nauseous, right?
Like you have to like maybe takesome anti-nause medication, you
have to eat, you have to drinkmore water, you have to do a lot
of things to make it work foryou, but you know it's good for
you, right?
So I think about it like that.
Like, like it's not meant foreveryone.
It's not meant, well, I think itis meant for everyone, but not

(12:41):
everyone is going to be ready,right?
So that's where people are like,oh, you need to tone it down.
And I've been getting that mywhole life.
Like, you're intimidating,you're too intense.
Um, you know, what you offerisn't gonna work in this
community, um, where your visionfor your business is really, you

(13:02):
know, that's cute, but likethat's not what sells, right?
And it's like I have believedthat and I have let what has
historically maybe been true inbusiness dictate what I I
actually believe is possible.
And I am really like it's likereparenting yourself, like

(13:26):
really coaching myself tounderstand that that just is not
true.
That is just a lie that I havetold myself to make things
easier, to make me not level up,to make me just stay where at
least I know what to expect.
Like I make people a little bituncomfortable, but like I'm kind
of towing the line, right?

(13:47):
So um I think just historically,what has worked has brainwashed
me.
And I've been over the lastcouple of months peppering in
like workshops and stuff anddifferent offerings that I feel
really aligned with.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, lookat this.
This event sold out.
Look at this, people want moreof this.

(14:08):
Like people are craving thiskind of energy, and they're not
the people that I see on aday-to-day basis.
They're new people coming in,right?
So it's like, I don't believe inthe theory that, like, you know,
open the doors and and they willcome.
Um, I think you do you have towork to manifest that whole

(14:28):
concept of downloading and thenintegrating um that Shakti
energy.
But I think it's just like sucha pivotal moment.
And the fact that thisorganically came up in
conversation and now we get totalk about it, is um just so
awesome and like priming us forthe new year.

SPEAKER_05 (14:52):
Agree.
Sorry, Rachel.

SPEAKER_02 (14:54):
That took a minute.
Um, I love this conversation.
I think this is this is when youwhen you brought it up, Nicole,
it was so like emphatic in mysolar plexus that I was like,
this is a conversation that likewe need to have.
And I've written so many thingsdown.
So when you were like, when youtalked about minimizing
yourself, like that is somethingthat we're conditioned to as
women.
Like I was I was having thisdiscussion with my husband about

(15:15):
it one day because I was likeexplaining how I was nervous
about going into a new space andtaking up space.
And he was like, You just go inand set up and you do it.
And I was like, that's very goodfor you to say that.
But usually for me, being awoman and making myself exposed
is dangerous.
And then I said that that outloud, and I was like, but why?
You know, and then I've beensitting with it a lot, and I had

(15:38):
my best friend visit my psycheone day in meditation, and he
was like, uh, what did he say?
Fuck being digestible.
Let him choke on it.
Perhaps the gag is what's neededfor the purge.
And I was like, okay, so I'mgonna stop making myself small.
I'm gonna start taking up spacebecause real life is dirty, real
life is heavy, real life ismessy, so is healing, so is

(16:02):
existing.
But when we only do like thevery top soft, feminine, pink,
very surface level stuff, likethat's literally spiritually
bypassing every single traumaticthing we have gone through,
every single negative experiencethat's happened.
That's like robbing the power ofthat and putting it into making
it palatable for someone else.
Fuck that.

(16:23):
Power is primal, you know.
So there's like there's scream,there's rage, there's sacred
rage.
Like, you know, I just I'vestarted weightlifting.
So I keep like thinking abouthow like when I deadlift, I have
to like scream to get it up.
And like how good that feelsafter I leave.
And I'm like, wow, I feel like Icould read 16 people today.
And then spirit's really clear.
And like the more I tap intotaking up space, being less

(16:47):
digestible, not giving a shit ifmy readings land anymore, like
just filming and posting.
I've felt freer, I've feltclearer, I've felt more
connected.
Um, with that, I've also feltcrazier, but that's just working
through the deconstruction.
Um, I was, I did, I did aworkshop in November and I was
talking to there was a mansitting next to me, and he was

(17:09):
like, Wow, I just I just lovehow you like look at someone,
you can just pull it out andjust you know, you're like,
here, look at this.
This is what you need to workon.
I was like, Yeah, they call meJenga, you know, and I I feel
bad because sometimes I pullsomething out of someone and
they fall apart.
And he goes, Well, that's notyour responsibility.
Maybe they needed to hear it,maybe they need to fall apart.
And the way I had neverconsidered that until that very

(17:29):
moment.
And so I spent the next hour anda half really sitting with the
fact that like I make myself sodigestible.
I make myself so small.
I don't have and I do spend somuch time talking about power
reclamation in my professionalwork and in my personal life,
that it was like this last bigpiece of like who, what makes me
me, I'm not giving to people.

(17:50):
And then I'm feeling frustratedthat I'm misunderstood.
Well, maybe if I stop dilutingmyself, I won't be
misunderstood.
I won't be understood by many,but I'll be understood by the
people who I want to fuck with.

SPEAKER_04 (18:05):
I love that so much.
I love that so much amazingnuggets of gold.
I want to, Adrian, any thoughts?
I think I'm gonna shift thedirection a little.

SPEAKER_00 (18:15):
I was just thinking about how much my editor Casey
is a thousand percent gonna takethat gag clip and make it into
the the intro or the socialmedia clip.

SPEAKER_01 (18:24):
That was fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_04 (18:26):
It's truth.
Truth.
So I want to talk about thejourney of reclaiming our power.
And it's less about the how, butI think there in each of us,
I've seen us over the past, youknow, year and a few months now
that we've been, you know,officially sanctioned as a
group.
I feel like we could set up likea nonprofit, um, that we have

(18:48):
personally come into our ownpower over this time frame.
And so I want to talk a littlebit about that evolution and
maybe we start first with goingaround the table about you know,
where have you struggled to ownyour own power or what holds you
back from reclaiming that poweror or giving people your power
now?

(19:09):
Jess, you went there a littlebit.
Um, but I'd love to hear, Ithink, Jess, you mind if I go to
you?
I'd love to hear more aboutwhere have where have you
historically held back um andwhat stops you from from being
in that full power of yourself.

SPEAKER_01 (19:25):
Yeah, um, I think that specifically, well, let me
start with how this group hashelped me.
Um, because I think that beforeI started hanging around with
all of you, I never consideredwhat I did to be channeling.

(19:47):
I didn't really like havelanguage for it.
Um, and then there was a moment,it wasn't even like immediately
upon like, you know, learningmore about what you all do, but
I was teaching one day and I wasafterwards, I was like, I don't
even know what I said.
Like it's just like comingthrough me.
And I was like, um, oh, that'sthat's channeling.

(20:11):
Like it's like you kind of likerevealed that for me.
Um, and that just kind of openedlike the whole can of worms.
Like, I think that reminder oflike, oh, I have been really
shrinking to kind of fit in, youknow, with like the geographic
community, with uh, like Imentioned before, kind of what

(20:33):
has historically worked with mybusiness, which was not
necessarily the more kind ofspiritually based classes.
Um and then, you know, I thinkit's important to just put out
there that we have such acopycat culture, and I think
that everyone is takingsomething that they've seen and

(20:56):
replicating it or you know,putting their spin on it.
So I think that's where we getthis, you know, to use the words
that we've already kind ofthrown out, like these kind of
fluffy sort of programs andstuff.
And I think like maybe, maybethat is a gateway.
Um, maybe, maybe it isimportant, but I think what it

(21:18):
is, I wrote some stuff down.
I just I wrote down Kali.
I'm thinking Kali energy, justlike flashing things down to
like rebuild them new.
Like that is feminine energy,right?
So I think we have this mix-upof kind of what we're doing is
more coming into balance.
It's not swinging the pendulumway in the opposite direction,
it's redefining what isfeminine.

(21:42):
And it's uncomfortable becausewe're told that we have to fit
in this box and do things acertain way and be soft.
But, you know, and and even thisis like I'm like, oh soft and
strong.
I hear that all the fuckingtime.
Like that, you know, that's likeanother thing.
I'm like, oh yeah, that's inthere.
Um, and that's maybe somethingthat I would throw out in a
class or something, but it'slike going deeper and deeper and

(22:02):
being fearless in what you'reputting out there, as long as
you, you know, it is spirituallyaligned for you and it's like
the message that you're meant tobring into the world.
What do you guys think?

SPEAKER_00 (22:16):
Gotta jump on that soft and strong thing.
I feel like society has madethat look a certain way and like
be the quiet, the nurturing,soft in that light.
But when I think of soft andstrong, I think of how do we
stand in our power with patienceand gentle energy if someone's

(22:38):
approaching us in a bad way, orif someone is feeling triggered
by us, how can we keep thatstrength and be soft and
approach them with compassionand love?
And so there's so many ways thatyou could like look at soft and
strong energy.
And I think society has reallyupped women for what soft

(22:58):
actually means.
I feel like my perspective, softis like, how can you look at
that person with love no matterwhat they're coming at you with?
Like, I'm like Rachel.
I trigger the fuck out ofpeople.
I am a line four, which means alot of my own growth and
evolution is going to comethrough my relationships.
And I have a gate that'sliterally the provoker.

(23:20):
So I am also Django Rachel.
And I've had a lot ofsituations, especially even this
year, probably worse this year,actually, where I've triggered
people.
And old me used to be like, ohfuck, I did something wrong.
I said something wrong.
I'm not seeing this correctly.
It's all me.
I'm the problem.
I'm too much.
And this year I've learned to belike, okay, I see what I'm doing

(23:42):
for you.
I see I'm a mirror for you.
And I'm gonna let you hold thatbecause that's not mine to hold.
I'm here to be that Jenga piecefor you.
That is my job.
It hurts me sometimes.
I don't know if you feel likethat, Rachel, because like I no
longer speak to some of thesepeople and I don't want to,
which is fine, but it stillhurts me that they're likely
walking around out therepoo-pooing my name because I'm

(24:05):
reflected something back tothem, you know?
So yeah, I've been leaning hardinto soft and strong in that
way, meeting these people thatare struggling with me with
compassion and grace.
And that feels like strongfeminine to me.

SPEAKER_02 (24:21):
Oof, I love that because that's where I need to
work on.
Um like, well, when I'm when I'mchallenged personally.
I immediately always feelguilty.
Oh my God.
It's I feel awful about it.
Or I used to feel awful about itbecause the same thing, I would,
I would lose relationships alongthe way.
And like I have nothing but lovefor those people in my heart.

(24:43):
You know, like no matter whattranspired in our relationship,
like I know that at any point inlife, knowing what these people
have gone through, I would wantto be met with compassion.
So like maybe that is my job todo that.
And I'm grateful to do that.
But when I am challengedprofessionally, something goes
up my spine.
It's like it's like Hakate takesover me.

(25:06):
It's like an energy sits me downand she's like, shut the fuck up
and watch how I do this.
And it's like I can't even, Idon't know if you guys have ever
seen me do it, but it's my my myspine gets straighter.
It's the craziest thing.
And but it doesn't feel angryand always works out well, but
it's always such a I'm always soafraid.

(25:26):
Like when it starts, I'm like,oh no, I'm sorry for what's
gonna come out.
Um, so I would love to try andbe maybe a little bit more
compassionate with those people.
But when it's when I'mchallenged professionally, it's
usually from a place to eithermake me small, make me feel
stupid, or like they'requestioning what I do instead of

(25:47):
allowing the energy of like, I'man ancestral healer.
People are like, Well, what'sthat?
Like, okay, well, we talk aboutblah, blah, blah.
Well, I don't have any trauma.
Okay.
Here's a cookie, and it's fullof bullshit because so is that
sentence, because that'sbullshit, you know, and it's
true, you know.

(26:09):
So I would, I would, I wouldhalf of me is like, I would love
to try and be a little bit morecompassionate.
But honestly, the other half ofme is like, I don't view it as I
know it's not disrespect, and Idon't view it as disrespect, but
when I'm challenged in a publicspace, because that's the only
time it happens too.
People don't challenge me on myone-on-ones.
It's usually when I'm doing agroup setting, and it's usually
a masculine person who's like,and I'm like, I'm not the one.

(26:34):
Like I growing up, Rachel wasnever the one.
And then traumatized Rachelsubmitted and became the one.
And now I'm not the one again.
So like I'm not the one.
But what where what used to holdme back, man?
Like, it's a lot of it is likeenergy reading.
I would anytime I would feelunsafe, I would not put myself
out there, which is like, oh,the wind picked up as we talk

(26:54):
about this.
It means communication.
Like, I've been able to do thismy whole life and I would never
bring it out because I wasafraid.
And then when Nicole asked thatquestion, I was like, Oh, what
holds me back?
Like fear, judgment,relationships, toxicity,
masculine energy.
Because like I'm not afraid ofmen, but it's I didn't want to
let this part of me out aroundthe men.

(27:15):
You know, it felt so unsafe.
And then within the last sixmonths, I'm like, that's not
true.
That's stupid.
They're just they're just boys.
It's fine.
Um and so I'm realizing that'sall just fear-based, and it's
all fear-based of how I'm gonnabe perceived.
So once again, I'm gonna letthem choke on it.

SPEAKER_04 (27:37):
I don't know what I said, but I said that's so
interesting, Rachel.
Because um mine is kind of theopposite because I I have never,
and this is definitely in myhuman design, I've never really
given two shits about what otherpeople think of me.
I've always known exactly who Iam, and if people aren't meant
for me, it's totally fine.

(27:58):
Um and I'm and I'm okay, and itdoesn't really impact me.
However, I compare the shit outof myself to other peers in the
industry.
And so, like for me, what holdsme back is not being outside of
the norm.
And I feel like this isdefinitely a corporate thing
that I need to undo because ifyou don't assimilate, if you

(28:21):
don't fit in, you are notgetting your money, you are not
getting your pay raises.
You have to learn how to playthe game and play the game well.
But a lot of the times the gameis flawed and the game is
inauthentic.
And so for me, it's unravelingallowing myself to be who
exactly I'm supposed to be,because my entire life I was
always told to fit in a box.

(28:43):
And I think I struggle withreclaiming my power because I am
so different than everybody elseI know in this space.
And there's no one that can helpme, no one that can lead me, no
one that can show me the way.
And so my entire fucking life, Ihave taken classes, I've had
other people show me the waybecause that's I'm a projector,

(29:04):
right?
So I take existing systems and Imake them more efficient.
And I'm now at the place wherethe system has run out and I
don't know what the fuck I'msupposed to do.
And so that's where I personallystruggle with all of this is
number one, inventing a newspace in the first place.
And then two, figuring out howto make that high integrity

(29:26):
believable, trustable in themarketplace.
And number three, to your point,Rachel, making sure that people
even understand what the hellI'm doing because I'm so light
years ahead of a lot of theexisting work and space that's
out there.
And you've all heard me say, andI love mediums.
So let me just put it out there.
I love mediums, but everybody'sa medium right now.

(29:46):
And what I do cannot be definedby that one single label, Adrian
and I go all the time aboutlabels.
Um, and so reinventing myself tome and reclaiming my power means
finding a new space in thesystem that doesn't exist.
And how do I market that?
How do I sell that?
How do I feed my family on that?
And how do I make peopleunderstand what it is?

(30:08):
Because it's not one thing, it'sso many different things at
once.

SPEAKER_00 (30:12):
Wait, are all four of us feeling this too?
We are right.
That's another commonalitybecause I I know Jess was, and I
know I am.
Literally, just this morning I'mdriving, I'm like, I'm so
fucking lonely in my field.
I'm so lonely.
I would love to have.
I mean, yes, I have a wonderful,world-renowned priestess just 45
minutes away, and I'm different.

(30:34):
And so, yes, I could goexperience her to have the
experience and to feel that, andstill I'm different.
And so, like, she doesn't feellike the right mentor for me.
So that's yeah, that'sinteresting.
And so you too, Rachel.
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (30:47):
So, so much.
It's it's been, but it's alsothis isolation spot I'm in is
also probably an ancestraltrauma response for the feminine
in my family.
So I'm able to lean into thatand be like, okay, this is a
neurodivergent trauma response.
What are you, what are you, whatare you looking for?
Where can you find that inyourself?
Where can you find that in theit you guys come to mind all of

(31:09):
the time?
And that's another thing I loveabout it is because when I go
through something, I guaranteeyou at least one, if not all
three of you have eitherexperienced it or going through
at the same time I am.

unknown (31:20):
Oh, I love that.

SPEAKER_04 (31:22):
I love that so much because I think we probably
within our own modalities havesurpassed some of the best
teachers possible.
But now we have to lean on eachother across the modalities to
learn the commonalities.
Um and the quote I I heard thatcame to mind while you were
speaking, Adriana Rachel, waswhen you're ready, the teacher

(31:43):
will appear.
And when you're really ready,the teacher will disappear.
Chill.
I know it's wild.
It's wild.
Um, this is gonna be a funjourney for all of us.

SPEAKER_02 (31:58):
It's also hard to communicate, though, at least
for me, because A, I feel nuts.
And sometimes I have a hard timeputting it all together.
And it's only when I really sitin meditation, when I'm very
clear, when I've done all thethings, that I'm like, I can see
the pieces, I can see it allworking.
And I'm like, okay, I know thisis all part of a bigger thing
that I'm supposed to talk about,but then my neurodivergent kicks

(32:19):
in and I'm like and all goesaway.

SPEAKER_03 (32:25):
What does your neurodivergent do again?
Oh, look, a penny.

SPEAKER_02 (32:32):
Oh, a piece of candy.

SPEAKER_04 (32:33):
But but I have to reflect back because I've seen
you all work, right?
I've seen how much you've allgrown in the past year and a few
months.
So what are you super fuckingproud of?
Like, where have you steppedinto your power?
Let's talk about that becauseit's hard.
I mean, it's one step at a time.
And I think this will be an everlong journey for us to define

(32:54):
and reclaim our space.
And then to your point, Adriana,there'll be people that come
after us that copy, right, andand want to do what we do and
we'll probably be the teachers,the master teachers at some
point with everything that'shappening and everything that
we're going through right now.
But where have you alreadystarted to showcase your power?
And how has that beencomfortable?
How has that been uncomfortable?
And I know, Jess, you inparticular, I mean, with this

(33:17):
retreat coming up uh at the endof December, how let's talk
about that.

SPEAKER_01 (33:23):
Yeah.
Um so I don't know.
I have so many thoughts on likethings that have been said, but
just to start there, I think um,yeah, doing workshops with all
of you, um, and then puttingtogether this retreat with the
four of us um is kind of wayoutside like the safe structure

(33:48):
um, you know, within my directcommunity, within my family
structure, you know.
Um and it's so I I'm getting,you know, confronted by people
um about this.
And initially, I mean, you know,depending on your level of

(34:09):
relationship with someone, likethere, there's like a pang
there, and there's like, oh,like, oh, should I be doing
this?
Am is this bad?
Um, but like I've certainly I'mgonna have to get really clear
about that.
And uh I'm like, yeah, no, youknow, uh, me and Jesus are cool.
We're like good.
And, you know, I'm feeling justlike more aligned than ever.

(34:34):
And I'm I'm creating anddeveloping deeper relationships
than I've been able to do in thepast.
Um, so like I kind of mentionedbefore, it's like, you know,
we're not gonna appeal toeverybody.
Um, but like it's like a deathand rebirth cycle, right?
Like cute doesn't cause a deathand rebirth cycle.

(34:57):
You know, when you step intoyour power, like it can be too
intense for people, or it can itcan create a shift in your life.
But I think that's like reallyimportant to kind of break um
break the patterns in our in ourfamilies and in ourselves and to
kind of continue.
I mean, we're all people who arecontinually evolving.

(35:20):
And I think that's kind of whatyou're alluding to, Nicole, is
like it's like, okay, like,well, what do you do when you
don't feel like you have moreresources to evolve?
Right.
I think it's like us comingtogether because we do, we're we
we're similar, we're all verydifferent as well.
And um, we challenge each other.
You guys challenge me all thetime.
Like, it's not just like a, it'sokay, honey, you're doing great,

(35:44):
you know, that's not the kind oflike conversations that we have.
So that's really beautiful.
And I think it makes all of uslevel up.
Um, and I think I was gonna sayin response to what you said
earlier, Rachel, that um mystruggle has been with women,
um, very specifically withwomen.
Um, and I think that's you know,ancestral wounds, um, throat

(36:09):
chakra stuff, um, just beingburned by women over and over.
Um and so this group inparticular is very healing for
me, um, since we all identify aswomen.
Um, also um line four generator.
I can put my head down and work,I can build community, and then
I can be like, oh, have you metso-and-so?

(36:31):
And then I just like shrinkaway.
Like, would that be like theshadow side of line four, maybe?
Um, and then uh also likeneurodivergence coming into the
picture, like learning moreabout that and just sort of
masking and just being like, oh,okay, like this is how I'm
supposed to play and this iswhat people want to hear.
So I'm gonna do that.
But it was really when I steppedinto um offering my yoga teacher

(36:54):
training that I was like, okay,like you really have to embody
like what you truly believe andlike be an example.
And that is when it got worse interms of people just feeling
betrayed by people or feelinglike people are out there
talking shit about me.
Um, all of those things likereally happening and really

(37:18):
causing me to be like, okay, butthat's okay.
Like this is who I am and likethis is what I'm putting out in
the world, and I feel good aboutthat.
I feel proud about that, and Ifeel powerful.
Um, even though it it's hardsometimes and it does hurt.
But um, yeah, I think becoming ateacher trainer and uh you know
evolving into kind of the spacethat we're we're moving into
together as a group would be howI feel powerful now.

SPEAKER_05 (37:45):
Is that me next or Rachel?
Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 (37:48):
No, you go, no, you go.
I'm not ready.
Are you for real?
Because I can go.

SPEAKER_05 (37:52):
Yeah, go.

SPEAKER_00 (37:53):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (37:54):
Um I love what I so agree about like the showing up
authentically, like how youguys, you guys do challenge me.
And it is so helpful becausemost again, most of the time, up
until meeting you guys, most ofthe people I talk to are like a
cookie ritual.
Like I'm like, oh, you know, Isee this, this cause is this.
You guys are the people thathold me, and you're like, oh,

(38:14):
okay, I see that, but have youconsidered this?
Um, every single one of you havehelped me step more
authentically into mywitchcraft.
Like, I'm very much like Iconsider myself an ancestral
witch.
Like this is it's two sides ofthe same coin.
And I I used to do things sointuitively, and I I still lived

(38:35):
with so much shame for who I amas a person, which is probably
why I apologize for everything.
I'm just putting that together.
Um I would and I I wouldn'tconsider what I did to be like
witchcraft until one dayAdriana's like, you just
mentioned doing six differentthings in your morning routine
that are witchy.
And I was like, Oh shit, I do dothat.

SPEAKER_00 (38:55):
Really?

SPEAKER_02 (38:55):
You never notice?
Wait, what?
Nope.
I would incorporate them into myand then just forget and just be
like, oh, everybody, I don'tknow.

SPEAKER_00 (39:02):
I again everybody does these six rituals with
their glamour magic and shit inthe morning.
Wait, you guys don't allmasturbate to frequencies?
What?
Well, that one, yes.

SPEAKER_02 (39:17):
You got me there.
But you know, it's it's thisI've been able to like when
something hurts in my body, Ithink of Jess and I'm like,
okay, my piriform is hurt.
What does that mean?
And like I I I follow thechannel, which I learned from
Nicole.
You know, I'm like, I'm tappinginto like for some reason

(39:37):
learning human design and mycycle has been able to be like
very flowy for me.
It's been able to really stickin my mind.
Um now I'm forgetting what thequestion was.
Damn it, why'd I say good go?

SPEAKER_04 (39:50):
Yeah, but you're killing it, right?
I mean, coming seeing I thinkour first like would you call it
a road opener?
Yes.
Um, that we brought together.
And you brought the goods.
Like you showed up with thecandles and the herbs and the
oil, and and you really own yourshit in that's true, in that

(40:11):
space, right?
And I think there's some and itwas really cute because you had,
I think you had a piece of paperwhen you were reading out the
different direct, were you withthe different directions?
And you were like, I don't know,like there was this like little
bit of uncomfortable, but thenas soon as you got through that
hurdle, I mean, it was such apowerful activity.

(40:31):
It was such like group event,right?
Uh, team building for all of usthat really transformed a lot of
our results.
And I think that's the key,Rachel.
Is for you, and I don't know ifthis is true for all of us, but
like taking that first stepshowed you how fucking powerful
you are.
And this is true.
It's so funny you bring that.
I remember that.

SPEAKER_02 (40:50):
I've seen I was struggling with that, and I
remember like reading it andbeing like, who are you standing
in front of right now?
Shut up and just do it.
And I was like, okay, I can justdo it.
I'm at literally Jessica'shouse.
Fine.
You know, but it's that fear oflike performing authentically
for other people, and not evenperforming, but that fear of
existing authentically aroundother people and the fear of

(41:11):
being perceived off while I'mauthentic around other people is
like so scary.
And now I don't give a shit.
Like I just joined a new gym andI walk in, I'm like, yeah, I'm a
witch.
And they're like, what the fuck?
I'm like, cool.
Now you stay away from me.
Or hire you.
It's or or hire me.
Yeah, I actually got a lot.
People are very supportive,actually.
People at that gym are verysupportive.
So shout out, shout out to them.

(41:32):
Um, but it's it's yeah, you thisit's reclaiming power has made
me feel so much, it's made mefall in love with myself to a
space where I don't toleratedisrespect across the board
anymore.
And I honestly thank the threeof you for that.

SPEAKER_01 (41:47):
It almost sounds like it's like a spiritual
coming of age.

SPEAKER_02 (41:51):
Yeah, fuck sweet 16.
Hello, 40.

SPEAKER_04 (41:55):
Yeah, for real.
Isn't that something with like aSaturn return or something too?

SPEAKER_00 (42:00):
I don't want to third you're in a sopposition,
is what yeah, what she's inright now.

SPEAKER_04 (42:05):
Got it.

SPEAKER_00 (42:06):
All of you, yeah, except for you, except for me.
But you're in the baby nodalreturn.
I'm what?
Aren't you in like a nodalreturn or something?
I am, I'm in my nodal return,which is fucking me hardcore,
not in the my best way, but likenot the way no one wants to be
fucked.
Not to frequency music, no.
Um, okay.

(42:26):
So the original question was howwell how have we changed this
year, right?
Or like, okay.
How do you show up when you'refull power, Adriana?
So it this is really interestingfor me to think about because
over this past year, I haveattended some really fucking
epic events, which was literallyon my my goals for this year to
have epic events that I don'tlike have to pay out the notes

(42:49):
for.
I just get invited to, I don'thave to force it.
And that happened, which wasamazing.
It helped me build that trustmuscle with the universe even
deeper.
Like, okay, this is correct forme.
So it's instantly, well, notinstantly, but it's supported.
Um, and what is it's this theweirdest common theme that I've
been finding?
All the events that I uh that Igo to are very, they're very

(43:10):
like feminine.
It's not like we just talkbusiness.
It is like we look eye to eyewith people, we tell them what
we see in their soul.
Like, there's a lot of like thatkind of stuff that we do.
And everything that I tend withactivities like that, the one
word, I can't, I'm not evenexaggerating this.
The one word that every personused, the commonality when they

(43:31):
look at me, when they feel myenergy was powerful.
And I was like, the fuck?
Like, I did not there, there wasno part of me that understood
that.
Even now I'm still likegrappling with it.
I think because I'm so in myhead and I'm so not where I
quote want to be.
And a lot of that I equate tomoney, which I know is not what

(43:53):
we're here to be about, but I'malso a tourist.
Like, just gets it.
Like, we need financialsecurity.
That's who we are.
And also, I'm trying to learnhow to claim that power without
putting money on that label andlike what that means for me.
So that's my own bullshit.
But it was also really, reallyhelpful for me to see that other

(44:17):
people they're reflecting backthe work that I've done.
This year, if anything, has beena year of like, holy shit, I've
really changed.
I have really started steppinginto like who I.
Even two days ago, mysister-in-law, she slept over
after our Thanksgiving.
And so it was just her and myhusband and I up at night and

(44:38):
she was just talking about,like, you know, asking more
things about my how I was raisedand all this stuff.
She knows she's known everythingabout me for a long time.
But we got deeper and she waslike, I would have never guessed
that with you and your parents,the way you guys interact and
all of this.
And I was like, I've done somuch work.
I've forgiven a lot.
You know, my father is manicdepressive, and my mom just like
she literally can't fuckingcope.

(44:59):
And and all these things thatcame up, she was like, Holy
shit, kudos to you.
I can't even be in the same roomwith those kinds of people.
And it was another moment ofreflection for me of like
standing in my power isn't justlike me showing up in business
and like reclaiming myself andlike healing.
It is literally like theeveryday of like how I let

(45:19):
people have certain boundarieswith me and how I can exist
around them without that meaningsomething about me.
Not to say that like therearen't times when people have to
be cut out.
There are.
And I think my parents arewonderful with my kids.
And like there's there's nothingthat I fully need to cut them
out for, but I have forgiven alot.
And that's just that'sdefinitely a certain type of

(45:41):
power.
So it's been a whole fuckingyear of reflection for me of how
much work I've done in theuniverse being like, just take a
seat for a little bit, justfucking exist, which is not
second nature for me.

SPEAKER_04 (45:55):
I can see and feel the power.
I think that's the I I love thatreflection, Adriana, because
there are so many clients ofmine, or even practice circle
people that I end up partneredwith, and I can fucking feel
their power.
Like I can feel their power andI can feel how little they've
tapped into it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (46:15):
Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 (46:17):
That's I mean, you you're like 50%.
Okay, that's generous.
No, you're like 50%, 45 spiritsaying.
Um, but there's just I love thatword for you, and I love that
journey for you.
And I think we can be souncomfortable with our own

(46:37):
power.
Like we can be, it's souncomfortable to to think about
to your point, Adriana, likewhere we've been been from,
like, what have we been through?
What's the family that we'vebeen raised in?
And and for all of us, all ofus, where we're going is nothing
like where we started from.
Welcome to 2025, right?

(46:59):
But overall with the familylineage too.
And I know a lot of my patternsand beliefs come from my own
family and upbringing.
Um, that's all I'm gonna saythere.
I don't want to go down thatrabbit hole.
But for me personally, where umI've come to step into my own

(47:19):
power this year is showing upto, for example, the retreat and
just letting spirit lead andjust doing these really powerful
fucking activations, um,starting to not play small in my
readings with clients, not umstarting to build new programs
and trust spirit.

(47:40):
Because I think here's the thingfor me is that I think I'm like
like you, Adrian, and like allof you, I don't fully trust my
whole power yet.
And it's funny because my wordthat consistently comes up is
trust.
Every it's been three years oftrust.
Um, people telling me to trust,trust, trust.
I don't trust my own power.
So I let spirit lead me into mypower.

(48:04):
Because that's the only way I'mgonna release control and show
up for myself.
But when I do, it's so powerful.
And I remember at the retreat umfreaking out because that
activation that I gave everybodyin Mexico took so much out of me
that we did a day trip the nextday and I was toast and I

(48:25):
couldn't show up to a couple ofevents because I just needed to
recuperate.
And one of one of the retreatowners asked me, like, hey,
where are you?
And I was like, spiraling,because I was like, I don't
know.
Am I supposed to be?
Am I not supposed?
I was literally spiraling nextto the beach when it's like 95
degrees in in paradise in Mexicobecause I was concerned about
whether the person running theretreat was pissed at me for not

(48:47):
showing up to these things.
And I I think you said I thinkAdriana, you said something
like, Well, you know, are youjust nervous that you didn't
show up the way that you wantedto for that?
And I think the difference was Iwas like, nope, fuck no, it was
fucking amazing.
I knew it was amazing.
And I think when it comes toowning your own power, sitting
in your own energy and your ownreflection of how did I feel in

(49:09):
that moment?
How did I feel doing this?
Like outside of the externalcircumstances and energy of
everybody else involved, how didI feel in that moment?
And the answer is fuckingpowerful.
And only after that does thesocietal norm start to weigh in.
Do the opinions and energy ofothers start to weigh in?
And that's how I know I'm on theright path because that is just

(49:31):
extra noise.
I need to learn how to dealwith.
Because to everyone's point,there will always be naysayers.
There will always be people thatwant to put me down.
Crab mentality, everybody.
Have you heard that one?
You put crabs in a bucket, putone crab in a bucket, they can
all get out, or that crab canget out, no problem.
Put any more than one crab in abucket, the other crabs will
drag that crab down.
No one will get out and theywill all die.

(49:53):
That's crab mentality.
And so that's what we are upagainst within.
I know Rachel's Rachel's in awe.

SPEAKER_00 (50:03):
Is that is that for real?
That's a real real fuckingwhite.

SPEAKER_04 (50:08):
Yeah.
And so I think that's what weneed to think about is this crab
mentality.
And as I have to say it likethis, the shift happens, whether
it's the new year, whether it'sthe 3D to 5D, whatever this is,
as this shift happens, you'regoing to have people that want
to stay in the norm in thecomfort.
And they they are gonna want to,they are going to be so solid

(50:31):
and so real and so raw abouttheir version of reality being
the truth.
But our real version of realitylooks very different.
And we need to separate out whattheir reality is versus what our
reality is and trust thatthey're both real, but we don't
have to live in each other'sreality or space anymore.
And I think the more that wereclaim our power, the more we

(50:52):
realize which path is right forus and which path is left for
the few to fight for the scrapsabout and the and the thing full
of crabs, right?
It's not our fucking problem.
And so I think I'm gonnachallenge all of you, all the
listeners, to really think abouthow have you stepped up to your

(51:14):
power this year?
How have you shown up in yourfull authentic self this year?
How are you going to pay homageto this new higher vibration
version of you so that youcontinue to show up as that new
authentic self as self?
And we, the weather beingwitches, will be here with
fucking open arms if nobody elseaccepts you.

(51:35):
I absolutely promise you that.

SPEAKER_01 (51:41):
I think too, to our listeners, if you're having
trouble tapping into where youfeel powerful or where you've
stepped into your power, it'simportant to ask yourself where
are you performing and where areyou hiding?
Because that's going to show youwhere you're meant to grow and
how you can access that power.

SPEAKER_04 (52:03):
I love that.

SPEAKER_02 (52:04):
And also just be like graceful with yourself.
You know, sometimes I rememberlike if people would ask me like
where I stood in my power, belike, fucking nowhere, terrible.
But sometimes if you can justtuck and roll and get up every
single day and not see your namein the Irish comics, aka the
obituaries, then like that'sgreat work.
Have you never heard thatbefore?

SPEAKER_00 (52:25):
I don't know what Rachel did this morning, but I
love her energy and all herfucking metaphors.

SPEAKER_03 (52:32):
The Irish comics, you said.
Yeah, that's what my grandfatherused to call the obituaries.
I wonder if that's why I am theway I am.

SPEAKER_02 (52:41):
But honestly, though, like just sometimes just
be very graceful with yourself.
And when you're looking at yourlife, don't look at it through
like your lens.
Don't be like, where have Ishown up as a powerful person?
Look at the last year from anoutside party perspective.
Look at your lens from someonethat be like, oh, it's this
person that I love so much.
They did an amazing job.
You're gonna literally, ifyou're in a negative space, you

(53:01):
won't be able to see that.
But if you can pull yourperspective back, you will be
able to see where you stood inyour power.

SPEAKER_00 (53:07):
All I can think about now are crab rangoons.
Does anybody else want crabrangoons?
Krabby, crab it, crabby, Irishpotatoes.
Yeah.

unknown (53:16):
What?

SPEAKER_00 (53:17):
You Irish women are weird.
Uh yeah, there's, I feel likethis is a conversation that
could go on and on and on and onforever.
Um, but what's really extraexciting about the timing of
this conversation is we're justa few weeks out from hosting our
own sacred feminine retreat forthe first time ever.
I mean, it's like a miniretreat, it's like a half day

(53:38):
event.
Um, but it's still it is aretreat.
It is a retreat from the worldthat is chaotic and everything
right now, and you get to justcome into this space with us.
And by the time this airs, um,it'll probably be completely
sold out because we only have acouple of tickets left.
But I'm just like really excitedthat this conversation has come
up before it so that we can holdeach other accountable as we're

(54:00):
planning it.
Of like, but does that reallymake you feel like you're fully
in your power?
Or is this just like a safe wayto play it?
Rachel's already laughing.
She's like, well, they're gonnabe hard on me.
But it's gonna be fucking epic.
Imagine if all four of us showup unapologetically and give it
like everything that our souland our body and our energy

(54:22):
really wants to give it.
Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02 (54:25):
We're gonna short circuit things.

SPEAKER_04 (54:28):
Like we're getting into my house.
Yeah.
That's why it's gonna be inperson.

SPEAKER_00 (54:37):
Yeah, so I'm really excited.
So stay tuned for more WeatherVane Witches events because I
know that they're gonna behappening.
But is there anything else onanyone's mind or heart right now
that they feel like they want toclose this with?

SPEAKER_04 (54:51):
So good.
I just want to say thank you toeverybody for being open and
vulnerable and owning yourspace.
Like I can't wait to see whatpower we all bring into the new
year.
And I just thank you, thank you.
You know me, I don't doemotional.
So I'm just gonna say you youall fucking rock.
She doesn't do emotional yet.

SPEAKER_00 (55:07):
No break her eventually.

SPEAKER_04 (55:10):
We already have.
This is my limit.
This is my 99%.

SPEAKER_02 (55:18):
This was awesome.
This was a great conversation.
I really needed it.
I appreciate you guys so much.

SPEAKER_00 (55:23):
Yeah, love you.
Beautiful.
Love you guys.
Thanks for being here.
Love you.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.

The Brothers Ortiz

The Brothers Ortiz

The Brothers Ortiz is the story of two brothers–both successful, but in very different ways. Gabe Ortiz becomes a third-highest ranking officer in all of Texas while his younger brother Larry climbs the ranks in Puro Tango Blast, a notorious Texas Prison gang. Gabe doesn’t know all the details of his brother’s nefarious dealings, and he’s made a point not to ask, to protect their relationship. But when Larry is murdered during a home invasion in a rented beach house, Gabe has no choice but to look into what happened that night. To solve Larry’s murder, Gabe, and the whole Ortiz family, must ask each other tough questions.

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