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SPEAKER_01 (01:13):
Hello everyone.
Welcome back to the Unity Code.
I am so freaking excited thatthe lovely, gorgeous, amazing
Carly Arbuckle is here with metoday to talk all about angel
numbers.
Thanks so much for being here,Carly.
I am so stoked to be here.
I'm so stoked.
Thanks for having me.
This honest to God feels likeChristmas morning for me right
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now.
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.
Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about all the angelthings.
It is so funny because we arestarting recording this episode.
I'm on the East Coast at 10 08a.m., which is an angel number
of mine.
Really?
Of course it is.
We are starting nice and earlywith this episode.
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And for those of you that don'tknow, Carly is like my my soul
sister.
We met a couple years ago now,uh, in a business coaching class
together where where the mediumand the angel medium slash human
design expert showed up, and itwas just amazing when the two of
us got together.
The best.
SPEAKER_02 (02:14):
And I was afraid it
wouldn't, honestly.
That's something that you and Italk about all the time.
Is when you first came in, I waslike, oh my God, there's another
medium.
I and all of a sudden I waslike, oh my God, oh my God, what
like what I'm not enough, I'mnot enough, I'm not enough.
And it's like the best thingthat could have ever happened in
that group was that you and Iwere both there.
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And there's ours who does humandesign, Jess, who is incredible
and was another huge gift.
I think getting to be togetherwith other people who do the
same, like there are there isroom for all of us, and it has
changed my life so much for thebetter to have both of you in
it.
I'm so grateful for it.
SPEAKER_01 (02:58):
Completely,
completely agree.
And I think it's so, you're soright because all of us have
very different perspectives,even though we have the same,
I'm gonna say toolbox.
And and we we started riffing alittle bit about angel numbers
before we started recording thisepisode when we were formulating
the idea and talking about theidea of angel numbers.
And your perspective is sodifferent than mine.
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And that's why I'm so freakingexcited.
Besides talking to, you know, mylovely soul sister, I'm so
excited to go through thisepisode and really talk about
like where do we align?
Where are we different?
Because I think there's so manydifferent aspects of angel
numbers that that's portrayedout there.
And I think the lovely part isthere's no wrong answer.
SPEAKER_02 (03:38):
I was gonna say, and
and they're all right.
I think that's the part thatreally blows everybody's mind,
including mine, honestly.
For years, that was that waswhere I got hung up is like, but
wait, if this is right and thisis right and these don't, then
how, you know, because when youawaken, it's like, oh my God,
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everything is possible.
And then it's like, oh my God,every like literally nothing is
impossible.
And it can be mind-blowing, youknow.
But I'm excited too.
I'm excited to hear yourperspective.
SPEAKER_01 (04:10):
Absolutely.
So for my listeners that areless familiar with you, um, I
just want to give you a quicklittle intro that's always
awkward.
So sit through it anyway, Carly.
I'm so sorry.
So, Carly Arbuckle, um, and I'llI'll add up all of her
information in the show notes.
She blends loving guidance fromyour angels with practical
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insight from your human designto deliver unshakable clarity
and validation about who youare, why you're here, and the
unique gifts you bring to theworld.
Because your world always needsa little extra, and life gets a
whole lot more fun andenchanting when you step into
the power of just being who youare.
Can you see why I love her,everybody?
She's just such an amazing soul.
SPEAKER_02 (04:50):
Such an amazing
soul.
The world needs your extra,everybody.
SPEAKER_01 (04:55):
It's not extra, it's
your gifts.
Oh, completely true.
All right, are we ready to getdown into angel numbers?
And I'm definitely gonna haveCarly here um for probably other
things too, but we're we'regonna stick with angel numbers
today because there's so muchCarly is so good about.
SPEAKER_02 (05:11):
Um and I'm wanting
when I when people come and see
me, it's one of the number onethings because I started as an
angel medium.
I started as an um in an angelRicky school.
Um, and that was where all of myfoundation is.
And so usually people will cometo me and be like, I'm seeing
all these angel numbers.
So I'm stoked.
SPEAKER_01 (05:29):
Oh, that's such a
and that's such a good segue.
So do you want to talk a littlebit about like how or why you
know so much about angels andangel numbers and all these
amazing things that you do know?
SPEAKER_02 (05:40):
Yeah, um, I have a
whole awakening journey.
And, you know, that stemmed fromactually now I know it's
interesting to now have all ofthese different perspectives.
As a projector, you know, wehave all of these areas of
expertise, and I was just sortof collecting them.
And it's interesting to seethrough all these different
perspectives how they are thesame.
Um, but I started around mySaturn return, um, which I
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didn't know at the time, but Ijust had a whole bunch of stuff
happening and then started, youknow, spiraling into this
spiritual awareness.
2020 was huge, and I think itwas for a lot of us, um, which
gave us the opportunity toexpand.
And I really resonated withangels.
And so I started listening to anangel podcast, um, Julie Jansis,
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who's my friend and mentor, andI did the scariest thing in my
life, honestly, and came out ofthe spiritual closet.
The angels say there's adifference between faith and
trust, and faith is the beliefand trust is the action, right?
So I remember signing up forthis Angel Reiki school.
I have an angel number storybefore that.
Um, you can come back to.
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This is the the story about mycousin that I told you about.
Um, and but I I signed up forthis program, and it was scarier
than having children, gettingmarried, like all of the things.
Because I was like, oh my God,I'm about to spend over a
thousand dollars.
Like, like I'd never doneanything.
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I mean, it was worth$20,000,right?
But I'd never done anything thatreally invested in myself from a
structured perspective, which Ithink is like that's when you
talk to spirit, when we talk tospirit, like when you want to do
this work, that's number one,get into a program, you know?
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And I had dreams that night ofmy angels partying.
Like I still can picture it.
It was sort of like that scenein Hercules, um, the cartoon at
like when they're in Olympic atMount Olympus.
Um, but it was like all of theseangels throwing a party.
Um, and then I went into thisAngel Reiki school.
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And the way that this one worksis you um she basically lays out
all of the different modalities,teaches you energy healing, and
then allows you to channel whatcomes through for you.
And then you develop your owngifts.
And I'm a psychic medium, um,I'm an angel messenger, I work
with angels every single day.
Um, and that is really, like Isaid, the foundation from where
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I, you know, grew my entirespiritual practice.
Um, they led me to, you know,eventually join the team of my
mentor on a team of healers asan angel medium.
Um, and then I ran into humandesign and spiraled into that.
And this is where they've ledme.
But they are quite literally thepeople, the angels who lead me
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through all of my work.
And um I'm so excited to talkabout them because they are so
high vibrational and sodelightful.
Um and yeah, I think that'sthat's where I started and I
continue to work with them everyday.
SPEAKER_01 (08:55):
I love that.
I don't think I knew that story,Carly.
So thank you for sharing that.
And I have to reflect back tothe audience as well, is when
you talk to Carly, she justbreaks out into, oh, well, our
Archangel Michael is saying thisright now, Archangel Gabrielle's
saying this right now.
Like you'll just be in themiddle of a conversation with
her.
So you are the perfect person totalk to.
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And and obviously, let me see ifI can get my my thoughts
together.
You are somebody who is sodeeply and lovingly connected to
the angels that you are theperfect person to be like, tell
me what the angels say about theangel numbers.
SPEAKER_02 (09:34):
I love them.
They say they love you, andyou're right.
That's honestly like the bottomline: if you take nothing else
away, you know, Archangel Jofielsaid the word one of the first
things when I was trying to toum channel, and I was like,
okay, angels, help me out.
How do I tell the differencebetween my thoughts?
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And, you know, I rememberspecifically, I was trying to
find my keys.
And people have different, youknow, angels, and you know,
Catholicism has saints that yougo to, they're all the same
thing.
So I was like, I think it wasArchangel Michael or something.
I was like, please help me,because he helps me find my
sleep mask at night.
Um, I was like, please help mefind my keys.
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And then I also am a splenicauthority in human design, which
means that I really don't knowmy intuition is my intuition
until I'm doing it.
So I was like hearing things inmy head, like look under the car
or look in the glove box, or youknow, and I was really
intellectualizing it.
And I kept beating myself upbecause I wasn't following it.
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Like maybe I wasn't looking inthe right place, or I wasn't
looking, I wasn't reallylistening or really hearing my
intuition.
And then I asked the angels, Iwas like, okay, y'all, how do I
know what's me and what's you?
And Archangel Jofail said, ifthe thought makes you feel
you're not enough, it's not ofGod.
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And I was like, Yes, Queen,like, thank you.
Archangel Jofael is someone Iwork with.
She's actually, I think she'sone of the biggest members of my
spirit team.
She's um uh she's the archangelof beauty.
So she helped me see, she helpsme see the the world through the
lens of love, um, through theperspective of seeing life is
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beautiful.
Um, and I have a whole other, Imean, I have a whole compartment
with her, but she is justincredible.
And it made gave me so muchrelief.
The angels bring so much relieffrom day to day.
That is their purpose, is whatthey're saying.
SPEAKER_01 (11:42):
Oh, I love that so
much.
I love it.
It's hard to be human, it'shard.
And I just felt my shouldersjust completely drop when you
said um the difference betweenyour intuition and your ego.
And I love I love the way thatyou described that so much.
I really do.
SPEAKER_02 (12:00):
It's hard.
They sound so Shakespearean whenthey come through for for me,
they sound so put together, butlike it, and it's almost
churchy.
So you'd think like it soundsalmost like scripture, but it it
doesn't.
It's if the thought makes youfeel you're not enough, it's not
of God.
So anything that comes throughthat makes you feel like the
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example I give is like theangels wouldn't tell you stop
eating sugar.
Like wouldn't that happenbecause that makes you feel
you're not enough.
You are the underlying messagefrom the angels is that you are
more than enough.
You are perfect exactly as youare every minute, every day.
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And you are gonna be on thisjourney, and they are here to
help, not to judge you.
It is, I'm I could cry.
It is so profound, the love thatwe have available to us all the
time.
And I get that most through myangels, through the numbers,
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through everything.
But that is what I feel like Ilike I'm saying to anybody who's
new to angels, or if you'retrying to change, like it can
get kind of hairy.
Everybody has to go through, youknow, mistakes and you know,
your own blocks in your mind.
But if it makes you feel likeyou're not doing enough, or you
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need to change yourself in anyway that you don't want to
change, um, usually if you'rechanging, it would be like a
nudge to do what you want to do.
Right.
That makes complete sense.
It's never anything that you'relike, uh angelic energy.
SPEAKER_01 (13:54):
I love that so much.
So for those of us that arethose of the listeners that
can't hear the angels, right?
That's enter angel numbers,right?
SPEAKER_02 (14:06):
Yeah, by the way,
none of us really audibly hear
them anyway.
It's a weird thing to describeas a medium, like it's it's just
it is what it is.
But if you perceive them, Iloved this.
You said this in a recentpodcast, and I was just like,
yes, perceive how you perceive,not how you hear or how you see
or how you feel, or how how youperceive is such a better way to
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say how you channel because it'snot through the physical senses.
The it's that's the closestthing, but it's like saying God
is a father, it's just not thesame, it's close, you know what
I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (14:43):
It is, it is, and
the perceiving can look
different to everybody, right?
The perceiving can be feelings,it could be thoughts, it could
be hearing songs, it could beall of these things, it could be
angel numbers, right?
Right, yes.
So, Carly, what are angelnumbers to you?
SPEAKER_02 (15:05):
They are um signs of
support and encouragement, and
um they are tangible proof formy doubt and a tool to increase
and and um expand my faith,especially when I feel my
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lowest.
Um they are immediate um warmthand a reminder that I am so
loved and that this is hardsometimes, but um just to feel
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even to ask yourself, and thisis a good exercise we can do
right now.
Yeah, let's do it for listeners.
Um, so the way I learned it,there are um cherubs, which we
all see like these are SistineChapel kind of, you know, little
fat angels is basically whatthey're perceived to be.
To me, they come through aschipmunks.
(16:12):
Um, but something interestingthat um was channeled in this
book or in Julie's book is thatif you see all of your cells,
you have billions of cells,right?
And if they look like the end ofthis pen, so everybody picture
like the end of a um, they'reshowing me a uh pen.
Mechanical pencil, right?
So that little dot, right?
(16:33):
So these are all your cells, andyou want to flip them this way
so that they're horizontal.
So you see them now, you see onfront, like face forward, you
see them as dots, but they'reactually tubes.
Okay.
Follow me, follow me.
SPEAKER_00 (16:48):
Spirit's following
you.
SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
The bell's going.
Ding ding.
Um so you can ask the cherubs,the cherubs will help like
expand your awareness and openthese this connection to the
other side, open your cells tofeeling the love of the angels,
to like a sort of communication.
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Yes, that's that's not what itis, though.
It's more energy, they'resaying.
So if you really take a secondand take a deep breath in and
out, and you picture billions ofcells.
So you can start with yourheart, feeling how your
heartbeat is connected to yourbody, and you picture how many
cells make that up and justexpand that awareness into your
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entire body, picturing thethousands and trillions and
billions, like all of those justcells, right?
And then you see them as thesedots, and then you picture them
sort of just opening, the endsof the tubes opening and asking
yourself to feel and allow thelove of the angels to flow
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through you.
I picture it from behind methrough my heart space.
And it's to me, it feels likeI'm Pocahontas in colors of the
wind.
And like I've got like just helpme feel the love, help me feel
your love and how loved I am.
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Help me feel how loved I am isthe is the phrase that works for
me.
And all of a sudden, it justoverwhelming.
It's overwhelming.
So to answer your question,that's what incomes are for me.
They are a little bit of that,and they are everywhere, and the
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abundance of them is soappropriate for the abundance
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that they actually are.
Wow.
It's a love we have, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (20:11):
It's wild, excuse
me, because the the exercise you
just did, I just felt so muchmore expansive in my energy, but
also trusting in my energy.
It's it's this.
Um, I don't know if any of thelisteners or if you felt it,
there's something really thatexercise you just did that made
me almost like come back tomyself and love me for who I am
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in that energy.
SPEAKER_02 (20:34):
Isn't it amazing?
Like it makes me cry, it makesme weepy.
SPEAKER_01 (20:39):
Welcome to my
podcast.
We're both crying now.
Um because if you allow that,and then you recognize that you
are just this little baby soulthat is here doing really hard
things, and it's okay, you'resafe, there's never a moment
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that you're by yourself, and itreally even getting a moment of
that brings such relief, and Ithink this is why angel numbers
are so important, and I thinkthis is why, and I and I I'm
laughing a little bit inside aswell, Carly, because I think
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people question how many timesthere's no way my angels are
sending me 1111 that many times.
There's no like I have seen thenumber 333 on repeat at least 20
times a day in the past week,and people are they question it,
right?
And I and I know uh diving intoyou know a little bit of a
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science perspective, you know,it's the it's what is it called?
It's like the recency thing,like the more that you pay
attention to it or the more thatyou see it, the more that you're
going to see it because that'sjust the way our brains work.
But it but to me, the frequencyat which I receive these numbers
defies that possibility becausestatistically speaking, I'll
tell you, I'm a numbers weirdo.
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I look at all the numbers allthe time, everywhere, and the
and then prevalency of certainnumbers that pop up, like 1008
when we started, which by theway is my birthday, October 8th.
Right.
Like when I see that, I knowthat I'm on the right path.
I know the angels love me.
They remind me of it.
They they have my back.
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And so every time we see thesenumbers, um, it should be very
frequent because that's theamount of love they have for you
and want to remind youcontinuously you're doing a good
job and you're on you're on theright path and that we love you
and support you.
SPEAKER_02 (22:41):
LOL, the angels just
said it's a frequency.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (22:49):
I love that that is
that is something I wrote about
is the frequency of it because Ithink that the when you're in
frequency of it, I'd love tohear you or the angels coming
through.
When you are in frequency andalignment, you're going to
attract the energy you put out,and like when you're higher
vibe, aren't you gonna attractmore angel energy coming in?
SPEAKER_02 (23:08):
Right.
It's literally the word frequentin another in in a it's an
adjective and a noun.
Like it's just an extension oflike when you're tuned in, yes,
it will be more frequent.
Like, but they say that, andthat's another huge question I
get in my sessions is like umconfirmation bias.
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Well, if I'm looking for this,if I'm looking, if I'm buying a
VW bug, I'm gonna see all the VWbugs.
And I think from a scientificperspective, yeah, absolutely.
Um, but you're not gonna belooking at those VW bugs and
thinking about if it's a signfrom the universe of like
support.
You know, there's a there's adifference when you see angel
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numbers and you think of them,then the doubt comes later.
You know what I mean?
It's it's an intuitive knowingthat we doubt, and that's a
human thing to do, but they willsend you so many numbers.
And what they say about that isthey're always there.
It's just if you decide tonotice them, it's a literal
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frequency.
I love that.
I love that everywhere.
One to do is to ask them to showyou um like double triples.
Like I've done doubles, um, butI'm sure they would give you
triples on my way home fromdropping the kids off at school.
Show me one, two, three, four,five, six, seven, eight, nine.
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When you ask this, it must befrom a place of wanting to
expand your faith and not to outof fear.
So that's something that we cantalk about too, in terms of
asking on demand signs andsymbols and and um numbers from
the angels.
If you're asking out of fear,like there's a difference,
there's a different vibrationwhen you're asking from a place
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of like prove yourself to me andI need something, y'all.
I need something.
Please help me.
SPEAKER_01 (25:04):
Oh my God, can we
talk about that?
That's such a really amazingpoint.
That is because I think whenI've looked back at my um my
experience with angel numbers,when let me say it, maybe I'll
phrase it this way and thenwe'll figure out how I fucked it
up.
Um, when I was looking for signsto quit my corporate job, the
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angel numbers that showed upwhen I looked them up, because I
have I have two books behind me.
I have um both of these I got atlike five below, by the way.
So you don't need to like gofancy.
Yeah, Kyle Gray's Angel Numbers,which is a blue book, and then
this beautiful, I don't know,Angel Numbers book by Mystic
Michaela.
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Um, every time I would look upthese numbers, and I use an
online one too.
I think it's Joanne Scribe.
I can't remember what thespecific scribe.
She's amazing.
Yeah.
Um, every single number one ofthose was about financial
abundance.
Every single one, like over andover and over and over again.
And it was just reallyinteresting because at the time
I would like every time I gotit, I was like, oh, that's
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great.
Oh, that's great, oh, that'sgreat.
Yep.
And then I started realizing thepattern over time.
And I was like, this is fuckingconfirmation bias.
The like, like I felt like I waslike, of course, of course, I
would look for the stuff thatwas about financial stability.
Because I'll tell you what, acouple months after I left my
corporate job and did thismediumship stuff, I had no
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clients because right.
Um, because I opened thefloodgates of my calendar.
Let's be real for a second, andeverybody booked in that first
month month, which was amazing.
And then August, I had no ideaabout seasonality at this point.
Nobody booked because everybodywas on vacation.
No one wants to, no offense.
Not a lot of people want to domediumship readings while
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everyone's on vacation, right?
And I want to have a fun lightAugust.
And so for me, I was like, oh,so I completely see what you're
saying because when I waslooking in fear, I was looking
for specific things and I hadthis bias of what I wanted to
receive from the angels, notnecessarily what I should have
received, which is just likeyou're loved, you're supported.
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But I'm like, no, no, no, no,no.
I need you.
I need you to tell me this partof my life is gonna be okay.
So I don't, I don't know.
I just blubbed on and on.
What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
I think first of
all, you said you wanted August
to be your vacation.
We don't get to choose the how.
And I think what you and I bothhave a defined ajna is what it's
called in human design, whichmeans we're always processing
and trying to figure out the whybehind everything.
And so we're constantly going tobe like, you know, what's next?
How does this work out?
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How do I see this working?
And when you don't get clientsin August, it's like, well, on
the surface, I don't haveclients.
Yeah.
Um, but the angels are say,like, you look at though the
vibration that you have, andit's fine.
So you don't have clients inAugust.
There's a way to look at that asa vacation rather than as a sign
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that you're failing.
And you can look at it as a giftand stay in that high vibration
of like, oh my God, thank you.
Wow, something awesome must becoming.
That is really scary to do.
And I've been talking a lot,like I get real caught up on the
how.
And I've been talking to my teamabout this.
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Or angels are on your spiritteam.
They are spirit, by the way.
Like, if if anybody's wonderingif they're separate sort of
entities, everybody, everythingis spirit.
This is just one particularvisualization or or
manifestation of spirit that weare talking about.
Um, but when you're looking forthe numbers in particular, I
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think there's a there's adifference between wanting to
use them to control, to feellike in control, and using them.
Well, why were they?
They were saying they weresaying it's mostly about
controlling what are theysaying?
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They cannot tell you what to do,they cannot guide you.
Right.
And when you try to use theirangel, their numbers to guide
you or to make your decisionsfor you, that is when it's
you're not looking outside ofyourself for guidance, you're
looking outside of yourself forsupport.
SPEAKER_01 (29:29):
Right, because
you're taking away your own free
will, which is why we come here.
SPEAKER_02 (29:34):
Why we do that is
because then we have someone to
blame.
SPEAKER_01 (29:38):
Yeah, yes, which is
way easier.
Come on, angels, let us justblame you, Jesus.
SPEAKER_02 (29:46):
You know, like like
I saw these numbers and they
didn't do this, and I saw I wasgonna get a million dollars, and
they like, and there they wouldabsolutely show you signs of
support to keep you goingbecause guess what?
When you're in when you know youknew you were supposed to leave
that career.
I know, I know there is nothere's and being an
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entrepreneur, I was just talkingto them about this too, because
I was getting so caught up in mymarketing process of like, how
do I?
I was getting trying to be sospecific with my design, and
they're like, Look, you areliving in the physical world,
take all the business advice andthen do it your way.
Yep.
But there's no way that you'regoing to avoid the things,
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you're not going to be able tolike step into a beautiful
corporate-sized entrepreneurialcareer.
It's hard.
But they're there to tell youyou'll be okay.
And that's where faith meetstrust and you take the next step
forward.
But if you're constantly, ifyou're trying and waiting for
permission from your angelnumbers, there, those are there
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for support for your actions.
They are not meant to drawaction from you.
SPEAKER_01 (30:59):
I love that.
I love that so much.
And I um and I the episodehasn't come out yet by the time
we're recording this, but Idefinitely talk about this in my
spirit guide.
Right.
And so I love the synchronicityhere as well because that's how
that happens too.
So maybe, maybe what we do, Ilove this conversation because I
think there's so many differentways I want to take this.
(31:20):
Maybe let's give um, let's dolike rapid fire.
What do you want people to knowabout angel numbers?
What is let's do it.
You go, I'll go.
Let's do it.
SPEAKER_02 (31:34):
Okay.
Um you say this.
I like do you want me to go?
Just go.
They're real.
They're real.
Period.
That's what I want them to knowthe most.
They're real.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (31:45):
And I want to
reflect back on you what you
said of um they are meant toshow love and support, not to
help you or not to makedecisions for you, not to take
away your empowerment.
Yes.
Yes, you can always say that.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (32:01):
That's well, yeah.
I wanted to add that because Ithink they're both true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Number one is believe them.
Number one is trust yourselfbecause people are afraid to
believe them.
Um you can trust it.
And then also, yes, they arethere not to tell you what to
do, they are there to supportyou.
SPEAKER_01 (32:19):
Absolutely.
Um, in terms of maybe the theway that uh the one I want to
drop in is be open to receivingwhatever.
Angel numbers come through.
So it's not necessarily look forspecific ones.
Start noticing which ones arecoming to you.
Because if I looked at the angelnumbers in the month of August,
(32:40):
I probably would have seennumbers related to perseverance,
keep going.
This is just a minor, a minordip, right?
But instead I was sohyper-focused on where is the
money because I'm apparently I'mJerry Maguire over here.
Um, that that that's what I waslooking for.
So by look, by looking forspecific numbers or
confirmation, I was shutting outmy my ability to know what they
(33:04):
were actually sending me.
So my my advice is be open toreceiving whatever numbers come
through.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (33:10):
Notice.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I think that that's that's wise.
And I think that's with anysign, you know, if you get uh if
you ask for a purple elephantand they you happen to see a
purple rhino, like come on.
Like, you know, it's the same,like my angel number for years
and years and years, or mynumber that I loved was 49.
(33:32):
And all of a sudden, when Istarted doing this work, 47 came
through over and over and over.
And I told you the night beforeI signed up for this Angel Reiki
school, I was talking to mycousin who is um like a badass
Rachel Maddow, like black, nailpolished, um, carabiner lesbian
in New York City.
(33:53):
And I just had, I did not thinkshe would be angel numbery.
She also came from before that.
She was like a badass financeperson at Merrill Lynch in the
city.
So, like, I was like, there's noway.
And she's like, Oh my God, yeah,I totally believe in angel
numbers.
And I had been seeing seeing 47around, and I was like, you do?
And she's like, Yeah, and shepulls up her shirt and she's got
(34:13):
47 tattooed on her ribs.
I'm gonna take it.
I'm gonna take it.
I'm not gonna say, like, well,technically, before my angel
number was 49.
To your point, right?
This is what they're giving me.
And 47, 4 plus 7, talk aboutnumerology, that's 11.
(34:37):
You know, it just fits better.
I can still draw a heart aroundit.
That's why I liked 49 in thefirst place.
Because you could draw a heartaround it.
SPEAKER_01 (34:46):
I love it.
Let's talk about the meaningthen.
Let's talk about the meaning ofnumbers.
And I love that story so much.
So, how do you interpret thenumbers that are coming through?
SPEAKER_02 (34:57):
Um, I have my own
meanings for my numbers, and I
think they'll talk to you inhieroglyphics if you want.
So, I think, you know, they hadme make this worksheet, and I
can give you this.
It's just numbers in circles.
But if you want to do thisexercise where you look around,
really what you would be doingis when you feel that is that an
(35:20):
angel number?
First of all, yes.
Like if you're asking yourselfthat, yes.
Um second, what were youthinking about the minute
before?
And try to, you know, I sort ofassociated six.
That's a great one becausepeople are like, six, six, six,
what you know, like that's adevil.
Like, I don't believe innegative energy.
(35:41):
I don't negate anybody else'sbelief.
So I'm not saying that they'rethat isn't real for other
people, it's not for me.
SPEAKER_00 (35:46):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (35:47):
Um and so when I was
asking about six, um, I read
things that said like caution orjust belief.
For me, six is a reminder to bein my body.
Oh so it's an awareness, butit's a physical awareness.
SPEAKER_01 (36:04):
I love that.
And so, and I think this is sofreaking cool because your
definition of six is differentthan my definition of six
because I've studied numerology.
Yeah.
And so uh so my so when I aminterpreting the numbers, I
think you can intuitively tap inand be like, what does this
mean?
What is the frequency of youknow, these one, two, three,
whatever plus numbers.
(36:24):
Um, and you can ask for aspecific meaning that's
customized.
But for me, I always bring itback to numerology.
So, like five is always it's thenumber of change.
So I know when I'm seeing five,it's always change, not a bad
change because I think peoplefear fear change, but um, the
way I learn numerology, it's oneof the many books that I have
behind me.
The shape of the number is themeaning of the number.
(36:46):
So if you look at the numbersix, it looks like a woman with
a pregnant belly.
It's like home, it's fertility,it's um, it's supporting, it's
relationships, right?
Like, and I know two is reallytwo is more duality for me.
Um, but but yeah, it's it'sabout like love and creation and
nurturing energy.
(37:07):
And for you, you're taking thatas like self self-care, bringing
physical, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:13):
It's like it's it's
a reminder to check in with
where I am and isn't, yeah.
Um physically.
I mean, they all tie in.
That's that's like the beautyand the challenge, I think, of
having your relationship.
Like everybody gets their ownlanguage with the universe, but
it's not it's not verbal, it'snot something that we all have
(37:36):
the same code, the unity code.
The only code we have is energy,and that's not going to be able
to be articulated.
So when you try to explain it,like you put you can feel the
same energy in what we'retalking about.
Yes, but just for me, it's I Iit's part of my lexicon in a
different way.
SPEAKER_01 (37:59):
Yeah, I love that.
SPEAKER_02 (38:01):
Me too.
Oh, I love the shapes thing.
I'm gonna I think also Nicole,like I am a human design medium,
I pull angels through humandesign.
So other people see as you know,other ways of describing like
what they've assigned as, youknow, for example, um, their
(38:21):
emotions, you know, I see as asolar plexus, you know, but and
so therefore the angels are areable to give through me very
specific messages based on whatthe human design chart has as
language.
So for you, you have neurology.
And so when your team worksthrough you, they are able to
(38:44):
give very specific messagesthrough what you have learned
because that's what they use.
They use what we have picked up,and the people that are coming
to you will need those messages,and the people that are coming
to me will need the messagesthat I'm giving.
That's the beauty of it.
It's there's no one right way,it's just who is meant to hear
what they need to hear from you,and they're hearing two
(39:05):
different ways from us rightnow, and they can have their own
effing way, you know?
SPEAKER_01 (39:08):
Yeah, I I think
that's amazing.
And I would say because I liketo do order of operations here.
So I think if you're seeing anumber, right, and you have an
intuitive hit or it's personalfor you, take that is the
meaning of it first, first andforemost, because you're
absolutely right.
The spirit angels will use yourown lexicon, your own
dictionary, your own experiencesto define the meaning of these.
(39:32):
Um, I tend to lean on numerologynext, or if it comes to a lap
stitch effort and you're like,what the frick does that angel
number mean?
Like that's where we have thesereference books.
And actually, in my mind, when Isee an angel number, I'll ask
them how do I interpret that?
And they'll either like bring itto me, they'll be like, you need
to interpret it.
(39:52):
They'll actually show me,because these books look very
different on the inside.
So so if they show me this viewof a square, I know they're
they're having me look at theMystic Michaela version.
If they're showing it to me in aline, hmm, I know that they're
showing me the Kyle Gray versionof the book.
And if they're showing it to me,like with because if if anyone's
(40:14):
been on that website, it's pinkand tan.
If they show me the colors pinkand tan, I know to go look on
that website.
So they actually also point meto which book to use because
there is no one definition forany of these numbers.
SPEAKER_02 (40:30):
Question for you.
Yeah.
Um, because I think I know theanswer to this for you, but um
just to I've I spent a lot oftime in my mind wondering if I
was doing the right thing.
Okay.
You say you see these these umresources, does it occur more
like a thought I should checkthis resource?
(40:51):
I can.
Like I feel like I'm wondering,I feel like sometimes it feels
more fluid than a point A, pointB, point A.
You know what I'm saying?
Um, because I see I have thesame thoughts.
Um, or it's like, oh, I shouldcheck this website, or I should
check this website.
I'm wondering though, if does itreally come like you're like,
(41:14):
give me the instructions andthen you get the symbol or you
get the feeling, or is it morefluid?
SPEAKER_01 (41:20):
When I see a number,
typically at the same time,
they'll show me where to look itup.
Yeah, for me, it comes in moreclairvoyantly.
I can kind of see, and I can'tsee the definition of the
number, it's just the way it's alittle blurry, but I'll see the
square, I'll see the line, I'llsee the colors.
And I'm like, okay, so I'm gonnago look up.
And I remember doing this in thedrive-thru of Panera one day.
(41:40):
The license plate in front of mesaid 959.
And I didn't have this book yet.
My friend did.
I literally have it printed upright here, and I I've had it up
to uh printed every single day.
And I was like, I know it needsto come from the book that my
friend had, which was this one,right?
The angel numbers book by byMystic Michaela.
And I was like, can you go lookup this number for me and tell
(42:01):
me what it is?
And she did, and she sent me apicture, so I printed it.
Um, so that's how it comes infor me.
For you, it might be a knowing,it might be a a thought, right?
And so, like, so I'm gonnachallenge people as you're
seeing these numbers, if you'regetting this hit of what does it
mean while you're receiving it,or where do I find out what it
means?
Like, go and follow that rightaway.
(42:21):
Because again, to your point,Carly, your brain, your logic
will always take over shortlyafter you get that hit.
So follow that hit.
SPEAKER_02 (42:29):
Yeah, I yeah, I
think, and as people are
thinking about this at home, youknow, there isn't like a let me
pull up my catalog and andcollect or feel like I'm picking
the wrong resource.
We were saying this earlier, butJoe Fail's saying it's another
way too.
Um, and she I'm looking at uhsomething that says beauty and
love right now, um which is her.
(42:51):
Um, but it's another way thatthis would um come through.
You want to look at thatresource.
It's not like a oh shit, I haveto wait.
It's more like no right now.
It's like uh, I know the thingthat I want to look at.
I know the thing that I want tolook at.
It's same with search results.
Oh yeah, like if I if I don'thave anything with me and I want
(43:11):
to know right away, like what'sthe meaning of um a client of
mine and e grit, you know, I Iand I want to know right now,
I'll Google it and then justwait until it, yeah, that's the
one.
And I just second guess it.
SPEAKER_01 (43:24):
And there's a
knowing that comes with that.
SPEAKER_02 (43:26):
Yeah.
So if you if you're wondering ifyou're right, you're right.
Like just trust yourself, youknow, in the immediate.
I completely agree.
I completely channeling whenyou're channeling, your
intuition works in a differentway.
But when you're channeling likenumbers, what they mean, first
thing that you think of.
SPEAKER_01 (43:44):
And I think it's so
similar, that same knowing, that
same instinct of like, oh, it'sright there.
That's that's the feeling I getwhen I know an angel number is
for me.
Like it'll just for mepersonally, what it looks like
is it's either a number that Iknow, so like 1008, right?
It or that number will stop mein my tracks and for some reason
I'll look at it just a littlebit longer than everything else.
(44:05):
And and I don't know why I'mlooking at it a little bit
longer or I feel drawn to thisnumber, but I know it is because
I know a lot of the the angelnumbers are easy to pick out
because they're 333, 555, right?
They're repeating numbers, butsometimes it's like 187, right?
Like like it might be like 237,right?
So, like, and sometimes you justlike you get stuck on a number
(44:27):
and you're like, oh, that'sreally weird, or maybe it's a
total.
I can't remember.
There was a funny story aboutthat.
I'll if it pops up, it'll I'llI'll say it.
But but there'll be a numberthat will just be there for
maybe an important moment, andthen I go look it up, for
example.
SPEAKER_02 (44:42):
And you'll remember,
so Archangel Rigel wants to come
in and say too, it's Archangelof Triggers for me, um, and
remind people that like Ipicture sometimes like the
Illuminati and Da Vinci Code andangels and demons of like they
they want to remind you thatyou're not gonna miss it.
And if it comes, it'll come upagain and again and again.
(45:04):
And I feel like sometimes wefeel like especially when we see
so many angel numbers.
I know I did, it's like, wait,wait, I've got to look this up
and I've got to look this up.
And what is this number plusthis number plus this number?
And what does that mean?
And that is a human fear that wehave, they're saying it's a
human fear that we havedeveloped through understanding
(45:24):
uh through through feeling as ifour own instinct should be
questioned.
If our own our own instinctshould be always questioned.
And they're showing me, likebasically in school, um, when
you're young and you have theseideas and you have these
knowings, and people willchastise you for them, or their
(45:47):
teacher will be like, no, no,no, you know, because they're
thinking with their logicalmind.
And that's the sort of energy ofArchangel Rigal.
You've learned to questionyourself, and so it is very
triggering when you see allthese numbers and you want them
to be real.
That's why it's you questionthem, by the way, because if if
(46:07):
it were not real, it would besoul crushing.
But it is, you know, but we haveto feel as if we're in this
human experience.
That's the whole point.
I heard something beautiful onum another podcast, Day Luna
podcast about human design, thatwas talking about like this
(46:27):
iteration of life is what if wedidn't know that we were safe?
What if we didn't know that wewere unconditionally loved?
What would life be like?
Totally different.
That's like that's our our humanlike experience.
So when we search for what if weknew, it's just that's not
(46:49):
that's not the point.
So point being, Archangel Raygalsaying it's human to question
question yourself, but that issomething conditioned that you
you put in yourself.
So just allow yourself to allowyour inner child, honestly, to
feel that number and feel thatyou're right.
It's okay to question yourself,but they will keep showing up,
(47:09):
you're not gonna miss it.
You don't need a lexicon.
You don't, they're not going togive you like a secret code, and
until you figure that out,they're not gonna give you
anything more.
SPEAKER_01 (47:18):
I I love that so
much.
And recently in some sort of aclass, I was I was co-hosting.
Someone kept asking, what if I'mgetting it wrong?
Like, what if, what if, what ifit's not for me?
What if it's the so it was the Iloved this conversation because
this is how I know I'mchanneling, even when I'm fully
conscious, because the wordsthat come through my mouth are
(47:38):
nothing I would ever say ever toanybody.
And it was, so what?
So what?
So what if it's not for you?
Did it give you the lovingenergy feeling for that half a
second before you rationalizeyour way out of it?
Then it served its purpose andand it was for you.
And so there's no risk with anyof these things.
(47:59):
And by the way, the one thing,the one thing Spirit downloaded
in my brain before we gotstarted, um, Carly, was angel
numbers are meant to reflectback the positive vibration that
you are currently at andorbetter.
They will never ever give youanything negative or below what
(48:21):
or give you signs or symbolsthat things bad things are
happening.
That is not a thing.
They don't do that, they areonly to reflect back your
positives and your potential.
SPEAKER_02 (48:31):
10,000 percent.
That's from like the 666perspective.
It's like, oh my god, what'shappened?
Like, no, yeah, they would neverthought makes you feel you're
not enough.
If you fear feel fear from angelnumbers, that is that is your
conditioned mind.
SPEAKER_01 (48:48):
Well, and it was
really funny because I found an
angel number the other day and Ilooked it up, and it was that I
was going to be losing somethingof super fucking triggering for
me, losing somethingfinancially.
And I was like, this doesn'tfeel right, this is not right.
And and I think it was on one ofthe one of the ones I mentioned
so far, and I was like, itreally sat with me, and I was
(49:09):
like, this isn't, this is notright.
Like, and because immediately itit triggered fear, it triggered
lower vibration for me.
And that's not the purpose orintent of angel numbers.
So even no, if you're lookingthese up on some of the
resources I've told you and itdoesn't feel good for you, like
just check, just check whetherintuitively it is for you or
not, or whether somebody else'sfears came into the definitions
(49:30):
of these angel numbers becausethey had them when they created
them.
SPEAKER_02 (49:33):
Yeah.
And I mean, I mean, there's alsothere's so many.
I mean, Dorian Virtue was a hugename in Angels and Angel Number
and was huge, and then all of asudden just stopped and refuted
all of it.
And like, there's everybody ishuman.
We are all human.
And by the way, you have freewill, you can choose what you
(49:54):
believe.
What you and I are saying isdelightful for us.
It's what I believe, it's mytruth, and I want to share it
because if it's your truth too,what a fucking pleasure it is.
What a delight it is to liveknowing that you are
unconditionally love andsupport.
I'm not refuting anybody else,you know.
(50:15):
That's it, that's a life, that'sa choice, you know.
But to your point where we are,spirit is unconditional love.
And especially the angels whoare there to support us,
trillions and billions ofangels, there to support us and
to make not to guide, but tosupport our own self-guidance, I
(50:41):
guess, you know, no matter whatwe choose.
And Archangel Metatron alwayssays you're never more than one
step off your highest path,right?
So they are not there to pullyou back to change who you are,
they are there to love andsupport you.
So, to your point, if you seesomething that a human wrote,
(51:02):
right, and that Archangel Ragelis saying might be triggering to
you, Archangel Shamuel is alsosaying, you know, family and
relationships is also like thisalso might have to do with
relationships and family andwhat's going on in your life
right now.
Like your free will is to askagain.
They will come back, by the way.
Like I saw a card, I wasflipping cards the other day.
(51:25):
I use my angel cards um forvalidation.
I don't use them, um, I don'tlike to do readings, but I do
really love them.
And I love um especially thepast, present, future way that I
read it to sort of help meunderstand why I am where I am
and to give me support for thefuture and to help tell me how
well I've done in the pastbecause I just like that
affirmation.
(51:46):
Um, but I got something and Iwas unsure about it, and I was
just like, I'm reshuffling, I'mreshuffling, doing it again,
show it to me again, show it tome in a different way, which we
say all the time when we'redoing readings.
Yes, like that's coming through,and I'm just getting in my head
about it.
Show me a different way.
Um so to your point, if you readsomething, show me a different
(52:06):
way.
Yep, do it.
SPEAKER_01 (52:10):
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh my gosh, this has beenincredible.
Can it can everyone just see whyI just love chatting with Carly?
She's just so freakingconnected.
So back at you.
I think you're the bestmediumship teacher there is out
there.
Period.
Thanks, Carly.
I'm gonna work on receiving, sothank you.
(52:30):
I receive that.
I appreciate you.
SPEAKER_02 (52:37):
So if you're
looking, if you're listening to
this and you're wonderingwondering about mediumship, I'm
telling you, this is your girl.
This is your girl.
SPEAKER_01 (52:46):
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everybody.
SPEAKER_02 (52:49):
No, I mean, I will
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SPEAKER_02 (52:54):
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SPEAKER_01 (52:57):
Give me a script
because it's it's really dang.
Apparently, you're supposed to.
Um so Carly, I know we havewe're we are flying through
this.
I could talk to you for hours.
Wait, what um what do you offerfor readings and where can
people find you?
SPEAKER_02 (53:13):
Yeah, oh, okay.
So I'm on um my websiteprimarily.
I also use Instagram.
I'm trying to figure out mysocials right now.
Um, I started a sub stack, buthonestly, I'm on my website.
Um, and I offer angelic humandesign readings.
So as I mentioned, I was anangel medium um and I started in
angel Reiki school, developedinto a healer um through energy
(53:37):
Reiki healing and also um angelcommunication, mediumship,
helping people to heal whateverthey needed to, was led to human
design.
And now I work with Spirit andthe Angels to help you
understand, work with yourspirit team, connect you with
your spirit team to see who's onyour team and who's helping you
and supporting you in thismoment, but then also take you
(53:59):
through human design, your humandesign, which has thousands of
components.
They point out exactly the partsthat you need to know in this
moment that will help you most,um, which I love because it's
really tangible.
So, human design, if you don'tknow, is this incredibly
complex, layered system of uhsystems that exist.
So basically, it's a way ofviewing it's Western astrology,
(54:23):
um, uh the Kabbalah, uh theIching, um, and um numerous uh
Western astrology, um,astronomy, quantum physics, all
layered into this crazy, you canattest to crazy wild accurate
chart of just visualization ofyour energy, right?
And there are so many componentsto look at, and it's so helpful
(54:45):
in so many ways.
I work with women who have feltlike a sort of spiritual tug and
don't know what it is.
And also I tend to work withwomen who this is not their
profession, might be afraid itwould be their profession.
Like, so what do I need to do?
Like, oh my God, what if I lookat this thing?
I've always known that I'mreally into mediumship.
(55:05):
I've always known I'm reallyinto angel numbers, I've always
known this stuff.
And I really like these womenreally believe it and they know
that there's something a littlebit more.
Um, but if you pull that thread,what's gonna happen?
And actually, so okay, so Ilearn I'm a medium, then what?
That's the people that I workwith because knowing about who
you are changes your entirelife.
(55:29):
When we just talked at thebeginning of this about feeling
the love of the angels, thehuman design tells you why.
And at the beginning, the extra.
I say the world needs yourextra.
What I mean is the world needsyour gifts.
I spent my entire growing upfeeling like I was Kimmy
Gibbler.
Like, for and for youngerlisteners who don't know, Kimmy
(55:53):
Gibbler is that like annoyingneighbor who like smell her feet
smell and she's like gross, andbut like everybody loves her,
but everybody tells her theydon't love her.
Like it's like this really toxicthing, actually, thinking back
on it.
But I felt so extra, and I feltso like I was too much, but
(56:17):
never enough for anything.
And I followed this entirecareer into I was a marketing
director.
I had gone to I went I went toNorthwestern for grad school,
and you only pay that much sothat you can say you did that.
So, hey, I went to Northwesternfor grad school with all of
these high achieving people, andI was on that path.
And it's just like it's justnot, I knew there was something
(56:38):
different.
Yeah.
And so this is where I've beenled because I know that the
people in those rooms, and youknow this, the CMOs, the people
who are, you know, in affluentcommunities who are really in a
have a lot of power as itrelates to just even influence
in their community.
(56:59):
Like you have just knowing whoyou are and trusting that that
thing that you're trying to sortof figure out why it makes you
different or why you can't be acertain way, that is where
you're meant to shine.
And I think you know that on asoul level.
I really do.
But what human design does andwhat the angels will do because
(57:22):
they're so incredible, and yourwhole team will do, is bring you
through and be like, oh no, thisis exactly why.
This scientific data point, yes,that shows you why you are the
way that you are, and shows youit's sort of Archangel to point
Archangel Jofiel, it flips itinto how beautiful you are.
I love it.
And I can't tell you, I can'tput it into words really, but
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when I found out my design and Ireally started to just little by
little implement it, and I'm I'ma healer and I'm a medium, and
that's what I do for my career.
So it doesn't mean that you haveto do this, but if you just
start, you know, for instance,as a generator type, and you can
go on my website and figure outwhich type you are.
Um, if you find out that you'remeant to respond and not
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initiate, or you find out thatwhen you as a manifesting
generator, um, you are meant todo all the different things.
You are not meant to stay in onepath and pursue it.
Or as a projector, you and Ineed to wait for the invitation
before we share our thoughts.
It takes away that feeling ofwhy doesn't anybody understand
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what the F I'm saying?
It makes so much sense to me.
I must just have to second guessmyself all the time.
SPEAKER_01 (58:36):
I love it.
unknown (58:37):
I love it.
SPEAKER_02 (58:38):
Anyway, so find me
on our website.
Find me on my website.
Um, and also I just wrote abook.
Um, so if you'd like to learnmore about human design, you
have it right here.
SPEAKER_01 (58:49):
I have it right
here.
So so it um this is definitelygonna be for another podcast
episode.
But yeah, she also wrote acolor, a human design coloring
book.
So if you're not sure what yourtype is or you want to learn
more, this is a great funintroductory piece for you.
And I'll I'll include that linkin the show notes too.
I'm just so proud of you forthis.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (59:07):
Oh, I also just
launched, by the way.
If you go and you join my emaillist, I'm doing a 10-minute tour
to chart free.
So if you want to get a highlevel of your human design
chart, and um, you can evenmention angel numbers, we can
talk about it.
SPEAKER_01 (59:19):
Awesome.
Oh, this was amazing.
Thank you so much for beinghere, Carly.
On I love you.
This is so beautiful.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02 (59:30):
Love everybody.
SPEAKER_01 (59:31):
Yes, this won't be
the last time you hear from her,
but Carly, thank you so much forbeing here and your angels and
bestowing this incredible wisdomon us all.
I appreciate and love you somuch.
SPEAKER_02 (59:41):
Likewise, I do all
of your exercises, and I think
this is just the coolest.
I really feel like you're inyour purpose.
So if you're listening to this,keep listening because shit's
about to get so cool.
But profound things that justhelp us know that we're all in
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the same place and we're all, nomatter what you believe, we're
all doing the same thing andwe're all connected.
I love it.
SPEAKER_01 (01:00:09):
Thank you so much,
Carly.
Yeah, stay tuned for more angelnumber conversations later in
the week from me.
But um appreciate you all andthank you for being here.
Take care.
Bye.