The University of Life & Bec Mylonas

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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Beck, welcome to the University of Life.

SPEAKER_03 (00:02):
Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_00 (00:03):
My pleasure.
It's not every day I get to sitdown with an oracle.

SPEAKER_03 (00:06):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (00:06):
No.
So you um enchanted me with thatword.
So when I was like, you know,what are you doing now?
You were like, oh Jamie, I'm anoracle.

SPEAKER_03 (00:15):
Yeah.
It's a bold claim, isn't it?
Oracle has some husband to it.

SPEAKER_00 (00:19):
But it wasn't it just that.
It was like, oh, I'm an oracleto emperors.

SPEAKER_03 (00:23):
Yeah.
Literally you say the wordemperor, my whole body goes, uh.
Yeah.
It's like very specific becauselike a a psychic or a channeler,
I feel like they're here formore mass like anyone.
Like, oh, d where's my dog?
Is it in heaven?
I don't know if people go tochannelers to ask them that, or
who am I gonna marry?
Or like these very menialquestions.

(00:44):
Whereas an oracle is likethroughout history, we have been
like the the right-hand, I wouldsay right-hand man to like
emperors, kings.
We're the ones who are like,hey, do I go to fucking war with
this nation?
Do I, what do I do about myfamine situation, right?
Like, so it's like we work withpeople who have larger scale
impact and who are here tochange the whole fucking world.

(01:06):
We're not here for like smalllittle, is my dog okay in
heaven?

SPEAKER_00 (01:10):
Like, it's that sounds like Do you have
something against dogs?

SPEAKER_03 (01:13):
I know where that example is coming from.
But you see the difference.
Like, I'm not here to fuckaround with like, is he my
soulmate?
Isn't he my soulmate?
Like, I'm here for like what arewe building, how are we building
it?
And for me, that emperorarchetype or the king, or like
the empress, the woman versionof that, a queen, they're the
people who are like makingmoves, getting shit done.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33):
Yeah, and you want to align yourself, you want to
work with them.
Yeah.
Sorry, I get this idea.
I'm alternative history isstarting to come up a little bit
on this podcast.
Um, but one thing I'm kind ofquite drawn to is the idea that
the king had numerousastrologers by their side.
And yes, this idea of an oracletoo.
Um, generally one priest.
Um, at some stage that kind ofchanged, and suddenly the more

(01:54):
mystic started moving away.
Um, but the idea, like I find itinteresting.
When I chat to some friends, andI'm like, oh, I was with my
astrologer recently, or oh, Iwas with the psychic, it was
fantastic.
They cringe, they like theytighten up and they're like, You
have lost it, my friend.

SPEAKER_03 (02:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (02:11):
Do you get that a bit?

SPEAKER_03 (02:12):
Yeah, it's like conditioned into us.
And this was all very fuckingtactical.

SPEAKER_00 (02:16):
So that's exactly my belief.
I think that exactly as well.
I think we've been purposefullydetached from our magical
intuitive ways.
And it's it's quite a daringbattle to get back into that
world and to kind ofre-establish a connection for
ourselves in that realm.
But that's that's actually likethat's that's our edge.

SPEAKER_03 (02:35):
I see it as a detachment from the mother, the
mother, like the mother ofeverything.
And the mother is a goddess, themother is also the intuition,
the astrological things, spirit,right?
We've been detached and severedfrom spirit for a really long
fucking time.
When the patriarchy came in,that's when all the oracles went
underground.
That's when all the mysticalinformation, the mystery
schools, everything wentunderground.

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And then instead we had thismale-dominated patriarchal
system that literally shamedthat stuff and made it like put
this stigma on, oh, you'recrazy, it's craziness.
It's like hoo-ha, it's likewoo-woo.
Let's, you know, and it wasprogrammed into us.
So then we're like, this stuffis bullshit.

SPEAKER_00 (03:13):
Uh, can I scratch that for a second?
Okay, so when you're saying themother, what I'm hearing is the
father, the patriarchal system,is this like logical, linear
system that we all live intoday.
Um, it's very financiallyorientated, very structured.

SPEAKER_01 (03:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
And then when you say the mother, the more
feminine, the more magical, themore soft, the more intuition,
uh, intuitive, the more kind,the more caring world.

SPEAKER_03 (03:38):
Correct?
The feminine.

SPEAKER_00 (03:39):
Feminine.

SPEAKER_03 (03:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
Okay.
You touched on this, like, let'ssay, this banishing of magic and
the the pushing of magicunderground.
Yeah.
Um, I'm from Ireland.
We all celebrate St.
Patrick.
And I what I like on my kind ofjourney, what I've kind of come
to believe is that St.
Patrick actually converted ourpagan king in the Hill of Tara,
um, which is like our centerpoint of magic in Ireland.

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And he he converted our paganking, our magically orientated
king, to Catholicism andbanished magic at that time.
That I it's quite sad when wethink that we as Irish we
celebrate St.
Patrick.
In actual fact, what we're doingis we're celebrating the very
person that decapitated us fromour more magical essence and
roots.
But interesting, you talkedabout the mother because what I

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heard about the kind of themystical stories in Ireland is
that yes, Ireland publiclybanished its magic, but it was
hidden in the women forevermore.
Yeah.
And that's why a lot of likeIrish women are highly
intuitive, highly magical.
They kind of joke about it.
But actually, beneath thesurface, that there is a real
magical uh essence amongst themall.
It's like, don't ever try to lieto one, they'll catch you

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straight away.

SPEAKER_03 (04:46):
Women are like inherently closer to God, just
because we're nurturers, likewe're we're more heart-centered
and compassionate.
There's a thought that came intomy mind, and I actually want to
go back for a second and comeback to the woman.
When you were talking about whathappened in Ireland, my first
book is around ancient Maya andtraveling in Mexico and what the
conquistadoras did to not onlylike ancient Mayan the lineage

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and the information, but likeevery fucking ancient indigenous
culture globally, including, youknow, I wouldn't call Ireland
ancient.
Maybe it is, like Celtic, youknow, that went down underground
as well.
And then Catholicism came.
And it's interesting because inMexico, there's this weird blend
of like Catholicism with somelike indigenous rituals and
stuff.
So it's like it's there, likeyou said, buried or it's

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underneath, but they're notallowed to like talk about it.
Like in many actual sacredsites, in um it's fucking really
horrible because I was going,traveling to sacred sites and
working with them, and you'renot allowed to practice certain
Mayan rituals at a lot of themain pyramid sites in Mexico.
Yeah.
Because there's such a traumaaround that.
So I just wanted to speak intothat because it's like that
we've done this, has happenedglobally.

SPEAKER_00 (05:51):
Yeah, I I find that quite interesting where people
like to say, um, like to holdtheir pain quite unique, isn't
it?
Like, this has happened to us.
And it's like, well, actually,if you go around the world, this
has happened universally, wherethe magical ways of the world
have essentially been banishedand replaced with this like
numbed out, very basic way ofliving that that almost has this

(06:13):
superiority to it.

SPEAKER_02 (06:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (06:15):
And that as I said, for me, when I'm like, oh yeah,
I'm engaging with my moremystical friends, I'm meeting
with an oracle, I'm chatting toan astrologist.
There's a kind of a I I'm metwith this sense of what am I up
to?
And this this superiority insimplicity.

SPEAKER_02 (06:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (06:30):
It's like, oh no, no, our very simple elementary
basic ways that we've evolved toactually are better than the
more magical roots and that thewonder that comes in that world.

SPEAKER_03 (06:40):
Because we're valuing our intellect over
intuition.
Yeah.
And that's intentional becauseif we connect to intuition, then
we don't need these fuckingsystems.
We don't need the governmenttelling us what to do.
We don't need can like we won'tbe controlled.
Like it's a system of control.
If we are connected to ourintuition, we're connected to
the earth.
We don't fuck with the earth, wedon't hurt the earth.
Yeah.
Industry doesn't exist.
Greed and wealth doesn't existbecause we're like, well, I'm

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taking my riches, they'reinternal and they go beyond this
lifetime.
And money's like, yeah, it'sgreat to help get stuff done,
but it's not the be-all end all,and we just operate differently.

SPEAKER_00 (07:11):
I so I do think, right?
I'm I'm curious to run this pastyou.
I have this idea that you canlearn, obviously through
day-to-day experience, or youcan learn through reading a
book.

SPEAKER_02 (07:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (07:23):
There's another type of learning that's coming to me,
whereas the better I look aftermyself, the cleaner my body is,
the better I exercise, thebetter I sleep, the better I
like look after myself and taketime to sit with myself.
It's fascinating.
I I see myself as an antenna.
And so the better I look aftermyself, the cleaner that
antenna.

SPEAKER_01 (07:40):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (07:40):
And the the weirder it is that knowledge just seems
to sprout within me.
Clarity just seems to come.
This idea of like, oh, I'm justgoing for a walk in nature, a
swim in the sea, and I come backwith all the solutions to
whatever problems I've beenfaced with.
That doesn't seem to get anyairtime.
That actual fact, when we lookafter ourselves, knowledge seems
to sprout up from within us.

SPEAKER_03 (08:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (08:02):
Yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_03 (08:03):
It's a if you see yourself, like you said, an
antenna, and that's a beautifulway of doing it.
It's like we're a channel,right?
A channel for information.
If our meridians, like ourenergy system, you can call them
like the dragon lines within ourbody, because I work with the
dragon lines of the earth, thatwe can talk about the dragon
lines within our body or themeridian system or the vital
life force where it flows thechakras.
If they're blocked, then it'slike we're not able to connect

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to consciousness, like higherconsciousness, because there's
gunk and shit in the way.
Or if we're not empty becauseour brain is like going, going,
going with all these thoughts,it's our egoic mind, which is
fine.
Like we all have one.
It's not to shame it, but ifthat's in the way, then we can't
hear that gentle whisper comingfrom within.
And that is what I call gnosis.
This is exactly why this fuck, Iget so I'm gonna like start my

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dragon.
It's like this is why they didthis.
So we have so much noise andwe're so programmed to not
listen to that voice becausethat voice doesn't make sense.
Our intuition never fuckingmakes sense.
It's like the most illogicalthing to do, and it's always
right.
Like it everything that we'vebeen taught, it's the fucking
opposite.

SPEAKER_00 (09:03):
But it's it it makes a lot of sense when you think if
you cut somebody off from thatinner knowledge, they're much
easier to exploit andmanipulate.
100%.

SPEAKER_03 (09:10):
Because like they're relying on the ex like the
external validation, theexternal guidance, the
government telling them what'sright and wrong.
When you tune in, you knowwhat's right and wrong.
Well, there is no right andwrong like that.
I believe that that's arbitraryand there is no one definite
right or wrong.
But what serves the greatestgood of all?
What serves evolution?
What serves humanity?
Like you're getting to a pointof like there is no separation

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between me and you, and there'sno separation between me and the
earth.
So when I go inwards and I tunein for that information,
naturally, organically, the Icall them downloads.
That's a word that I probablyget some shit for, but like the
downloads I receive inherentlyare gonna serve the planet.
And this is the feminine.
The feminine's naturallyconnected to what would serve
the earth, and it's in usbecause we literally birth earth

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through our fucking womb.
We birth life through our womb.

SPEAKER_00 (09:56):
I I uh I had this fantastic chat with this Russian
man.
He was a financier of oligarchs,so he was as well as holy shit.

SPEAKER_03 (10:05):
I need to get him and like be an oracle for him.

SPEAKER_00 (10:07):
Oh my god, yeah.
But yeah, we we were chatting,we were chatting all about you
know, different kind ofdifferent ways, you know, people
in the West relate versus inRussia.
And he had this beautiful lineabout the the the women of
Russia.
He said, our women in Russiawould never lower themselves to
the levels of men.

SPEAKER_03 (10:25):
I love that energy.
I love that.

SPEAKER_01 (10:27):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (10:27):
Right?
There was such a high sense ofreverence and respect and care
for the feminine.
Yeah.
That is actually, I would say,lost a lot of ways in Western
worlds where a lot of women arealmost competing for parity or
equality with men.
And it's like, no, no, no,you've lost the point.
Don't sell yourself short.
You are far more special.
But you're Greek.

SPEAKER_03 (10:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (10:43):
And tell me more.

SPEAKER_03 (10:45):
The woman is like the head of the household in in
Greek culture.
We are like goddesses, like whatmama says, mama goes.
However, we are still very muchlike, well, the mother is the
nurturer, cook, clean, raise thechildren, you know, like so it
is that, but the m she'srespected.
She is respect.
You talk back to your mom, youget fucking smacked in the head.
And I love that energy.
And I'm actually verytraditional, like in that way.

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I believe in these gender roles.
Like, I believe in polarity andI believe in these strong gender
roles, but they do, they'vedefinitely like Greek boys love
their mom a little bit too much.
It's a little bit a-pool at umNo, I I I wholeheartedly agree.

SPEAKER_00 (11:20):
I love I love this kind of difference as well.
I think this is there's a realoddity in our world where
everybody's trying to besomething other than they are,
and there's very little idea ofwhat it is that you actually
are.

SPEAKER_02 (11:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (11:32):
And and that kind of that lack of groundedness and
that lack of clarity around whoyou are, who you aren't, is just
so bloody disorientating.
And I think, you know, peoplethink they're they're gaining
freedom when in actual factthey're they're actually missing
out on so much.
Um yeah, there's this, let'ssay, this giant identity crisis.
Um, but it's like all things.
I think I'm I'm actually quiteexcited about where this goes

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because I think when the worldgoes extreme in one direction,
it generally speakingrecalibrates the next and
settles in between.
Um but okay, so give me an ideathen.
You, as an oracle to emperors umand empresses, uh what I'm
actually hearing more so fromyour work is my idea was oh, uh
chat to the oracle and hear whatthey have to say.

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But in actual fact, what I'mkind of getting from what you're
sharing is that you actuallyjust help people connect in with
their inner oracle.

SPEAKER_03 (12:20):
100%.
But so yes, yes.
But there is when okay, how do II particularly work with people
who are here to do really bigthings.
And so for me, when I waschanneling all this information
about like you're here to dothis and you're gonna bring this
book and it's gonna reachhundreds of thousands, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
It was like a lot for me toreceive.
And I was like, is this justlike spiritual ego?

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Is this like some fucking likeJesus syndrome?
You know, like I was reallylike, I had to have like four or
five other oracles reflect thisback to me without me um telling
them anything to see me in myhighest timeline, for me to be
like, okay, this really truly isthat big, and what I am bringing
here is that big, and no wonderwhy I'm shitting myself and
running away from it everyminute.
So that's what I kind of do forpeople.

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Like I see them in their highesttimeline, what they're here to
bring forth, and I help thembring it into existence.
But then there's another elementto my work, which is activating
oracles.
So I do two things.
Like, so I work with people whoare like, I'm on a mission, I
don't have fucking time to liketruly fully channel this off
myself.
I just need confirmations andlike that, that like, okay, yes,
this is the best move to make.

SPEAKER_02 (13:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (13:23):
The other type of people I work with, the oracles
and priestesses, and and somemen as well, really, and men can
be oracles, so I'm gonna justget rid of the gender around
that at all because it's likepriest-priest.
Anyway, it doesn't matter,arbitrary.
Helping them to purify theirchannel so they can receive that
guidance because it's almostlike validation, right?
So it's like it's like validatewhen three people say the same

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thing to you, it becomes like,okay, I'm not fucking crazy
because I'm telling you, I'mbringing back information and
wisdom that's been buried forlike thousands of years.
This morning I did I'm holdingthis mystery school at the
moment at the moment, and I waschanneling these things about
free earth energy grids andAtlantis and Lemuria and like
some crazy world out there shitthat like it's like beyond.
And I don't watch things to getmy information, I receive them.

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And even I'm like, this is thisis like this, I need a
confirmation for this, like tomake you know, so it's things
like that, like cutting-edgetechnologies from other places.

SPEAKER_00 (14:16):
Um I I um love what you touched on there, and that
you don't watch TV, let's say,or you don't overly expose
yourself to media.

SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (14:25):
So what I find is that that can become enormously
distracting, yeah.
Um, but also corrupting.

SPEAKER_01 (14:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (14:30):
So like if there's so much information being taken
in externally, it has an impactinternally.
And it can become like I think alot of the lot of the time,
certainly people come to me aswell, and they're like, Jamie, I
feel really overwhelmed.
I'm I'm indecisive, I'mstruggling.
And if you almost go through it,like, well, let's look at an
average day.
Let's look at how many randomconversations you're open to,

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how much media you're consuming,like there's not a still minute
where you don't have a podcasttelling you how you should be
living, or an Instagram uh postor story highlighting the kind
of life you want, but perhapsaren't living.

SPEAKER_01 (15:05):
It's a lot.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (15:07):
It's a lot, a lot.
And I I find it's it's soobviously distracting that
people don't talk about, like,people will talk about the
benefits of fasting, but theywon't talk about necessarily
like withdrawing that little bitfrom society so you can actually
just think for yourself.
And we don't associate likenervousness, our anxiety, our
overwhelm with anoverconsumption of media and the

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obviousness of how well, if youjust calm yourself down and pull
yourself back, that in itselfcan be so medicinal.

SPEAKER_03 (15:35):
Yeah, I completely agree.
And adding on to what everythingyou just said, because that's I
don't need to elaborate on that,it's pretty clear, and I
completely agree.
Lots of things like platformslike social media platforms and
advertising, and these thingshave either subliminal messaging
underneath them, or there's anylike this is on a high esoteric
level.
There is energetic siphoninggoing on, entities, all sorts of

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fucked up shit that happens onenergetic levels.

SPEAKER_00 (15:59):
Okay, let as I point the finger and I'm like, ah,
this is a subject I I'm socurious because I I can't help
but think when I'm watching amovie that there is an
underlying this is how youshould live.

SPEAKER_01 (16:12):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (16:12):
And and you know, sometimes that's really obvious.
Like, let's say, for example,sake, tensions are high between
America and Russia.
Suddenly, all the villains inall the movies are Russians.
They used to be Iraqi, then theywere Afghanistan.
But also how heroic it is togive yourself to your country
and be American.
But but not even that.

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Like if you're stressed, youshould go to the bar and have a
drink.
Um if you are upset with yourpartner, you should isolate
yourself, go to somewhere very,very quiet and think on your
own.

SPEAKER_02 (16:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (16:45):
And it's like, oh, you should reconnect.
Like, there's all these almostautomatic responses.
And like if we go into Disney,the whole idea of like you said
it.
Yeah, it has to be like Disney,I think, is the worst culprit in
regards to this.
That they're like tuning peoplewith this idea of like find your
prince, find your princess, livehappily ever after, and teed up

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for yeah, teed up for also aswell, like being very funneled
towards monogamy is your onlyway to relate.
Um, and it's um, yeah, it's likea society is being groomed
through media.
And for me now, when I justwatch a movie or anything like
that, the second I get an ounceof I'm being told how to live
through this, I I find myselfrepulsed.

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I find myself actually veryangry and a feeling of like,
hey, I'm I've been takenadvantage of here.
I'm paid for this movie.
You should be paying me tomanipulate me at this case.

SPEAKER_03 (17:37):
I agree with you.
I watch movies like becausesometimes I really need to do
some basic human shit.
Like I have to, like it's apractice for me.
How human can I fucking be?
Because I'm so not human.
So I actually I love like justbinging Netflix and eating a
burger and just being reallybasic and human.
And I love it, but I've learntto be like, okay, I'm gonna take
it with a grain of salt.
Like I know that they'reprogramming the fuck out of
this.
I know that there's likeprobably entities every time I

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watch a horror movie.
I don't watch horror movies forthat reason.
It's like I can't even hold thefrequency of fear.
Like, but I'm very aware ofthat.
And I think once you're aware ofit, you can choose whether to
engage with it or not.
Like it's a like the same thingas like when people go on this
spiritual journey, usually whatthey do is like, I stopped
drinking, I stopped doing this,I stopped partying.
Not you.
We know that you're not likethat at all, Jamie.

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I love that about you.
Right.
But like once you've strippedall that back and you've seen,
like, okay, this is like reallybad for me to do meth.
I don't know, like that was areally bad thing.

unknown (18:28):
Wow.

SPEAKER_03 (18:29):
That just went whoa.
Just drop that one in after.
For the record, never done meth.

SPEAKER_00 (18:34):
I do not do meth.
Wow.
I can't believe I have to saythis.
Thanks, Bang.
Thanks so much.
Talk about programming.

SPEAKER_03 (18:41):
Yeah.
Jeremy does meth.
No.
Um, once you've likeestablished, okay, this is what
it does for my body, then youcan consciously choose.
I'm gonna engage with this,right?
I feel like a lot of people gettoo serious and too like angry
about the system.
Like, I'm at a point where I'mjust like, I see it, it is what
it is.
I'm over here, away from it,doing my own little fucking
thing, and that's great.
And I drink wine sometimes and Ieat burgers and I watch Disney

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movies, and I'm fantasize aboutmy prince coming to rescue me,
except he's a king, not aprince.
Oof.
So yeah, oof.

SPEAKER_00 (19:10):
Is he in a on a horse or is he in a limo?

SPEAKER_03 (19:13):
He's riding a dragon.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (19:15):
Okay, I'm glad you said that.
Uh yeah, that that I I'm comingto this term of like, Jamie,
don't assume you know better.
Don't assume you know best,because there is this, let's
say, spiritual superioritythat's to like radiated from me
for years of like, this is theway things should be.
Without this uh perhaps trustthat in actual fact there's a

(19:37):
higher power and intellect atplay, and sometimes things need
to swing one way to swing theother way to ultimately speaking
balance out.
And so yeah, I get I get I getannoyed when I feel like I'm
being used.
Let's say I'm manipulatedthrough a TV show, I like I have
my guard down, and I withdraw insome regards.

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I will, of course.
Indulge in others, but the thething of this is wrong is an
interesting one.
I'm like, well, is it actually?
Because it it it it reallyyou're kind of faced with a
challenge.
It's like, do you rise up abovethis bullshit or do you get
consumed by it?
And in actual fact, is that kindof more Murphy's law of like

(20:20):
survival of the fittest?
Is this if an a kind of afantastic clearing uh exercise?
It's not nice to think, butnature has a fantastic way of
doing that.

SPEAKER_03 (20:30):
Keep my mouth shut.

SPEAKER_00 (20:31):
No, no, please, please, like I challenge the
shit out of me.
I'm just, you know, to makesense of our world is a really
challenging thing to ensure youcan actually live in this world
and not get so upset.
Because in my journeys, meetingsome fantastic, beautifully
spiritually minded people, somany of them go through these
really challenging overwhelmsand depressions and frustrations

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and isolations as a resultbecause they just can't live in
this world anymore.

SPEAKER_03 (20:59):
Yeah.
And I think that that's not thefucking role.
Like, that's not the point of aspiritual awakening.
You're not trying to.
I work with many like starseeds.
Like, that's the I I make fun ofthat term because I think we're
here to fucking be in a humanbody on a fucking human earth,
or you would have been anArcturian and another, you know,
like you would have been a lightbeing if you didn't want to be a
human.
And so I actually believe thatascension or evolution is

(21:19):
through the human body, throughthe human vessel.
It's being fucking human andit's bringing divinity down here
into the human experience.
So if you're like, it's so hardbeing human, it's so heavy, the
government's trying to fuckingpoison the water, like they're
trying to put some like and youget angry, like that's the first
step, is like, I'm this is I'mawake to what is happening.
The problem is so many peopleget trapped there and like I

(21:41):
want to get in my spaceship andleave this planet and like fuck
Earth, right?
Or like they get trapped in theconspiracy theories of the
reptilians and the draconiansand the all the government
conspiracies, right?
We're not here to get caughtinto that.
That's what we've been doing forthousands of years of this
cycle.
We're here to break free fromthat cycle in sovereignty and

(22:02):
rise as Christ did humans, whichmeans taking back our power and
sovereignty and being like,okay, I'm not gonna pay
attention to that dialogueanymore and I'm gonna build
something new.
That's who I serve.
The people who are like, I'maware of what the fuck the
system is and it's broken.
I'm gonna create a new system,right?

SPEAKER_00 (22:18):
Do you know what?
Look, when you shared that uhtalks into that, a memory came
up of me being about 19.

SPEAKER_03 (22:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (22:23):
And at 19, I was getting very into holistic
living.
And uh and I at that stage I wasexperimenting with a vegan diet.
Like I didn't want to eat meatbecause that had issues.
I didn't want to eat dairybecause that had issues, I
didn't want to eat sugar becausethat had issues.
I saw issues with everything.
I was so anxious of water that Iactually cornered myself into a

(22:48):
point where I I actually hadalmost panic attacks eating
anything.

SPEAKER_01 (22:51):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (22:52):
And I it's funny, like this.
I I don't think anybody aroundme would have known it, but like
I got I got so unbelievablystressed.
Food in particular, but then itwas the idea that if I'm going
out into streets, I'm I'm I'mbreathing in exhaust, I'm if I'm
like showering, I'm showeringchlorine and like the clothes,
if I'm wearing the clothes, theclothes had detergent on them.

(23:14):
Oh my god, exhausting.
Exhausting.
What I noticed though, and I'mso glad I could kind of observe
it, is I was like, Jamie, themore you're doing this, the more
hypersensitized you're coming,you're becoming, and you're
really causing yourself a mentaldisorder.
I caught it early and was ableto be like, just have a beer,
have a burger, let this showdown.

(23:35):
And I realized there was like alaw of diminishing returns.

SPEAKER_02 (23:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (23:37):
It's like if you go down that chasing perfection, an
actual fact that causes so itcauses so much stress that that
in itself is the imperfection.
There's a fine balance.
I then actually found thisincredible kind of diet
nutrition expert, a guy namedAlan Flanagan, who helped me
realize that in actual fact, uhtactically poisoning yourself is
really, really good.
Um, it's very highly stimulatingfor the system and expands your

(24:00):
capacity.
I didn't realize like we're likea muscle.
When you read about it, there'ssome certain sensitivities, but
with exposure, you can expandyour capacity for them.

SPEAKER_03 (24:10):
Right.
So this is what happens on thespiritual awakening journey is
all sorry to bring it back, butI'm all about spirits.
So I just love taking whatyou're saying and being like,
yeah, and then I can apply this.
When you awaken everything andyou open everything, at most
point people tend to become alittle bit like self-righteous,
and they're like, Oh, I don'twant to hang out with the normal
humans in the supermarket.
Like I'm a yeah.
So I was like that, the mugglesfor about a year.

(24:31):
And I was like, I couldn'tfucking function.
I couldn't go out of the housebecause I was like so sensitive.
I was like, oh, that negativeperson, this negative person,
like entity, whatever.
They're attacking me, they'resiphoning me.
I got over it at a point, andnow I'm like able to be in these
environments which are verydense, very heavy, because it's
like the exposure, right?
Like once you like learn thatit's like it's serving you, and

(24:51):
like how the fuck are yousupposed to supposed to spread
your light if you're in yourhouse, you're not leaving it
because you don't want to bearound the people?

SPEAKER_00 (24:57):
Like it's it's it's about as effective as the person
who comes out of a relationshipand declares that they're gonna
go celibate.
Yeah.
And they're gonna heal theirheart out of relating.
Well, I'm celibate.

SPEAKER_03 (25:08):
So I'm triggered by that.
No, I'm kidding.
By choice.
But I'm multi-orgasmic withoutbeing touched, so I don't
fucking need a man right now.

SPEAKER_00 (25:15):
This is bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 (25:16):
It's not bullshit, James.
You watch me.
You literally watch me likearound.
I don't know what we yes.

SPEAKER_00 (25:23):
Back to you need some coaching.

SPEAKER_03 (25:24):
I don't need some coaching from you.
No.

SPEAKER_00 (25:27):
Sorry, just as a bit of an insight for me, I always
get very sad when people saythey they they've gone celibate
for a while.
I completely understand, like,and can see the benefit of it.
We talked about the benefits offasting and everything like
that, but I just get sad.

SPEAKER_02 (25:38):
Why?

SPEAKER_00 (25:38):
Because there's such joy in pleasure and there's such
fun in sexual connection.
And when people are like, oh,I'm pulling back, I'm like, I
get it.
It can be helpful to a point,but please don't miss out on the
fun of life.
Yeah.
The same way, like you talkedabout a burger.
Burger's tasty.

SPEAKER_03 (25:51):
True.
Coca-Cola can be nice.
But you do also reach a pointwhere for me, my erotic current
will fuck a man up who is likeit wolf, like I need to be
careful about him and myself.

SPEAKER_00 (26:01):
Beck, you love the feminine so much.
What about a woman then instead?

SPEAKER_03 (26:04):
Yeah, I've tried.

SPEAKER_00 (26:05):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (26:06):
It wasn't for me.
And you know what's interestingbecause there was this point
when I was awakening everything.
I just kept having these likeinsane lesbian dreams and like
wanting to fuck with it was likecrazy because in the mystery
schools in the ancient, you'relike, I'm now intrigued, and
this podcast is going somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 (26:18):
No, no, no, no, no, not at all.
I'm like, there's certainmoments where I'm like, what
have I gotten myself into?
That's it, that's it.

SPEAKER_03 (26:26):
So wait, like, this is an actual thing that happens,
and it happens to a lot of womenwho work with me.
They're like, Beck, why am Isuddenly having these erotic
fantasies about women?
And like, I'm like eating womenout and I'm loving it.
I'm being fisted, and like itgets pretty intense, right?
Because in the ancient mysteryschools, that's how we would
awaken each other's like sexualenergy.
And so for me, yeah, well, notmaybe through fisting.

(26:46):
I mean, there's a lot ofenergetic passive passageways in
that part of your body, but no,literally through eroticism,
through that, but it wasn't forthe this is what I'm trying to
educate you on in this moment.
There is a point when sexualenergy transcends the need to
stick it in and have a physicalexperience.
For me, my experience of sexualenergy is so divine that I would

(27:12):
not ever compromise my vessel,my holiness, for someone who
didn't understand and havereverence for the current that
was running through me.
So that current is for God, it'sfor my creations, it's for what
I'm doing.
And if finally a man comes, andI it's not to say that I I have
never had sex in my life, likeI've definitely had lovers in
the past year who wanted thatcurrent and were capable of

(27:32):
meeting me, and there was abeautiful sacred union that took
place in that configuration, inthat connection.
However, these were men who wereable to fully understand me and
see it, and I felt revered and Ifelt safe.
And now I'm at a point where I'mlike, I I really this current at
this point in my life is forbuilding my temple.
Like it's for building Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (27:52):
I don't hear you're celibate though.
I just have I hear you have highstandards.

SPEAKER_03 (27:56):
No, I I'm celibate.
I'm intentionally not engagingin sex with anyone.

SPEAKER_00 (28:00):
Okay, but Prince Charming comes in in his dragon
on his dragon.

SPEAKER_03 (28:04):
Is he a king or is he a prince?

SPEAKER_00 (28:05):
He's no he is king charming on on like mega super
duper Daenerys dragon.

SPEAKER_03 (28:13):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (28:14):
And he's like, hey there, babe.
I heard you're celibate.

SPEAKER_03 (28:17):
Right.
I'd be like, well, then take meon 50 dates and worship the
ground that I walk on and we'lltalk about it.

SPEAKER_00 (28:23):
50.

SPEAKER_03 (28:24):
Maybe not 50, maybe like it depends.
Good.

SPEAKER_00 (28:27):
It depends.
Your standards are high.
I don't think you're celibate.

SPEAKER_03 (28:29):
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
My standards are high becauseI'm here for sacred union.

SPEAKER_00 (28:33):
And this is great.
This is brilliant.
I think look, the the more workyou do on yourself, the more you
can see clearly what it is thatyou like and what it is that you
don't, who it is that brings outthe best of you, best in you,
and who it is that brings outthe worst in you.
And why would you want toentertain anything that doesn't
bring out the best in you, arecertainly close to it.
So again, yeah, I just hear highstandards.

(28:53):
And I think that's the reallybeautiful thing that as we
progress in our lives, we becomemore discerning and we become
less open to those sillyessentially occurrences and
events that ultimately speakingundermine our best self because
we we also realize how sensitivethat highest capacity is, that
you nurture it with people thatwill meet you, and

(29:14):
unfortunately, you undermine itwith people that won't.

SPEAKER_03 (29:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (29:17):
And not just people, but entities and experiences and
energies and anything like that,right?

SPEAKER_03 (29:21):
Yes.
There's this thing that keepsgoing in my mind that you've
correlated, I'm like, it'sactually starting to, I'm
feeling the fire coming up inme.
You've correlated celibacy tosomeone who is not sexual at
all.
And I find that that's thecomplete, I'm the most sexual
I've ever, like, I-ho.
Like it's just I'm not relatingthat physically.

(29:41):
And I think there's this trap inthe tantric world and in people
who are polyamorous of shamingpeople who are on this path to
sacred mat.
Really, like, I'm gonna fuckingcall you out on this because I'm
like, for you're oh, you'rerepressed.
Oh, you're not that's very likeclosed-minded or not evolved of
you to not want to fuck 50 menin a temple.
And I'm like, my energy isfucking sacred.

(30:03):
My pussy is sacred.
Just one second again.

SPEAKER_00 (30:06):
So as this conversation is developing, I
think it's very, very importanthaving dropped in the 50 men.
I do not sleep with 50 meneither.
Thank you very much.
But just ripping it.
But yeah, like Jesus.
Uh talk about programming.
Um, but uh what uh I I actuallywasn't um I wasn't so the the

(30:30):
definition of celibacy I wouldsay is abstaining from sexual
energy and contact, right?
Okay, but when it when I hearwhat you're sharing, no, you're
nurturing, you're actuallyyou're yeah, you're nurturing
and caring for your sexualenergy and you're not
entertaining anything that won'tmeet you.
I don't hear that you're like, Iam celibate for the next year.

(30:51):
I hear that you are holdingyourself for somebody that will
meet you.
Beautiful, and an actual factcalling that energy in.

SPEAKER_02 (30:58):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (30:58):
And a lot of my work, like you know, the at the
bottom of deep coaching isenergetics like yours, and our
words are powerful, our wordscast spells.
So when we say we're cuttingsomething off, we might be
wondering why isn't KingCharming on his fantastic dragon
showing up?
And it's like, well, becauseyou're saying you're not open
for it.
Yeah, and that's why I actuallypush.

(31:19):
And so it's not me putting youdown.
Yes, it's actually me reallyhelping you open yourself up in
that regard.

SPEAKER_03 (31:25):
Yeah, I love that.
Thank you.
I just there was a distinctionbecause I think when I first
discovered sacred sexual, I wasa whore, and I need to put that
out there.
And I'm putting that out therefor like the world to hear.
I have no shame, not a literalwhore.
I didn't accept money, money forsexual service.
I need to also make that clear.
But like, I did not respect mysexual energy.

(31:46):
I didn't respect myself.
I had a very big inversion, Iwas like counting notches on a
belt like a man, and that I usedthat to validate me.
And so I literally had to gocelibate and like completely
reclaim that energy for myself,for God, for impurity and
devotion.
Okay.
So that I was celibate.

SPEAKER_00 (32:02):
That sounds like a celibate passage.
I was celibate.
Okay, and that sounds likeactually a very like, all right,
okay, that's a cleansing period,right?
That sounds like a fast, thatsounds like it led to a good
recalibration.

SPEAKER_03 (32:12):
Abstinence.
Absolutely, right?
So yeah, I think maybe celibate,we just had different
interpretations of that word,but it's like these gates are
not opening.

SPEAKER_00 (32:21):
Unless somebody could firmly knock on them,
yeah?
And then to the right, they'rethe right.
Okay.
I I think I want to ask you totake your fuck you back.

SPEAKER_03 (32:28):
Take my fuck you.
Okay, I rescend my fuck you.

SPEAKER_00 (32:32):
Thank you back.
Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03 (32:34):
But that fuck you extends to every single person
out there putting pressure onwomen like me to like go to a
fucking orgy in the guise of asexual.
Like, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (32:41):
There is putting pressure on you to go to orgies.
We need to talk with yourfriends circle.

SPEAKER_03 (32:47):
There's a lot of look here in Bali, I'm not
super, I'm not super impressedwith the tantric scene.

SPEAKER_00 (32:54):
Okay, alright, okay, because you've been there done
the.

SPEAKER_03 (32:56):
I have been dragged, kicking and screaming to a few
temples, and there was onerecently in Talom I went to, and
my body literally made me.
I'm not gonna go graphic withthat.
I'm gonna actually choose mywords very carefully.
I got physically ill, veryphysically ill.
Yeah.
Before the actual templestarted, and I was sick.
I was like vomiting.
My body was like, you need toget the fuck out of here before

(33:17):
it even starts.

SPEAKER_00 (33:18):
Wasn't that so good though?
Sorry, that you had thatreaction.
Like, I think it's quiteinteresting.
Some people when they're like,you know, they they get upset
with themselves for theirsensitivity.
I actually remember um Rich Rollwas speaking in Ireland.
I put up my hand and I was like,Rich, like I've cleaned up my
diet, but now it's getting sosensitive.
And I'm so frustrated aboutthat.

(33:38):
And in actual fact, his hisanswer wasn't good enough.
I would I would say, but whatI've come, I remember that like
that was me 12, 13 years ago soupset with actually a
sensitivity that I'd worked sohard for.

SPEAKER_01 (33:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (33:53):
That like when we, and let's say in this example,
me with regards to diet, when westart eating cleanly, our bodies
clean up and they become all themore sensitive as a result,
which is brilliant because theystart communicating with us all
the better.
And I see this not just in diet,I see this in habits, not just
in habits, like exercise,routines, work styles of the

(34:13):
people I work with, but thepeople I relate with.
And so, like there are so manypeople that would have gone
into, let's say, those tantriccircles at those temples and not
had that tunement and only anddiscernment and sensitivity.
And I think like a lot ofpeople, I think in all our
sexual journeys, we all end updoing things that years later,
days later, sometimes in themoment, we're like, what the
hell are we doing?

(34:35):
And so good for your heart andyour gut to catch up with
yourself so that it doesn't giveyou the feedback two months
later or a week later, or a daylater, or on the moment, it
actually gives you it well up inthe front.

SPEAKER_02 (34:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (34:47):
And it's like, do you know what this isn't for
you?
That's not to say it's not forloads of other people, and it's
not to say that it isn'tmedicinal and fantastic for
loads of other people, but we'reall uniquely individual.
And uh to have that capacity tobe able to know what's for you
and what's not in advance,that's something you work hard
for.

SPEAKER_03 (35:03):
Yeah.
So lucky you and when you'retalking about the sensitivity,
it reminds me of people that Iwork with who are very, very
sensitive and they see it aslike this horrible thing that
they have to see.
I'm extremely sensitive, likevery, very attuned to subtle
frequency, the tiniest littleshift, and I feel it.
And that's my gift, it's mysuperpower.
And we almost have to like workwith those sensitivities and
create like I wouldn't sayprotection for ourselves, but

(35:25):
create create I don't want toexplain this.
Not fail-safes either.
I can't communicate what I'mtrying to say here, like create
structures around oursensitivity that serve it.

SPEAKER_00 (35:37):
It's a weird thing now that a lot of people uh oh,
well, everybody's trying to bethe like everybody else.
How many bloody Kardashians arethere when you walk down the
street?
And it's it's you know, peoplehave these ideals and this kind
of celebrity wants and desires,and and we think that if there's
something different about us,there's something wrong.
An enormity of my work ishelping people reframe and

(36:00):
helping people do exactly whatit is that you just shared,
which is like your sensitivityisn't an issue, it's actually a
superpower.
Yeah, and I'm amazed that whenwe do that as an exercise, how
much stress goes, how muchenergy is relieved, and and then
yes, the opportunity toreinterpret something that was
seen as an issue, uh as actuallyan asset, yeah, comes.

(36:20):
And it yeah, like I I actuallylove you.
Sometimes see this in superheromovies movies.
I'm thinking like X-Men, butsometimes the odd type that has
the superpower.

SPEAKER_02 (36:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (36:30):
And actually, yeah, but like the X-Men, they were
all they were all odd types withunique superpowers.
And I I don't think we like asmuch as I talked about
programming in a lot of TV, Ithink there's also programming
to the opposite as well.
Like, I think there's movies outthere that are really trying to
open people up, like The Matrix,for example.

(36:51):
But in the example that I'vejust shared, X-Men 2, it's like,
hey, you're not like you're nota societal reject.
Yeah, actually, there's asuperpower inside you.

SPEAKER_01 (37:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (37:01):
And um I remember I was obsessed with magicians.
Magicians are kind ofinteresting.
Like oftentimes there's quite alike a challenge socially.
Um, please God, I'm going for ahell of a stereotype.
But this was certainly thestereotype that I found that I
get challenged socially, a lotof time in a room, a lot of time
practicing a trick forattention.
That when they finally do, it'sso heavily rewarded that it

(37:23):
justifies, okay, let's go backagain and do it again.
But it's bred from a time ofdisease and it's bred from a
time of challenge.
And I would say that most of thehighly, highly skilled people,
their skills don't come fromease.
They come from friction, theycome from challenge, they come
from disease.
And there isn't that, let's say,universal understanding enough
that for whatever it is that youthink may be your issue, who

(37:44):
knows, if you see through it,there might actually be a huge
asset and opportunity in it.

SPEAKER_03 (37:47):
Yeah, we call it, I mean, in astrology, it's your
Chiron, which is like yourdeepest wound is your deepest
gift.
I also call it like being forgedlike a diamond.
My book is called Diamond LightOracle, and it's about how in
the intense struggle or like theit's like being pressed and
squeezed in that experience,something beautiful is formed,
which is a diamond.
And that's like, I believepersonally, that we all come in

(38:10):
here with a certain dharmicpath, like a certain something,
I call it a soul codex as well,certain codes or certain
knowledge or certain gifts thatwe're here to bring into the
world.
And if everyone is trying to belike everyone fucking else, then
you're not walking your path,which is your unique reason for
being here.
And I see that this new earthwe're moving towards, people
talk about the new earth, iseveryone getting to bring their

(38:33):
unique medicine, their uniquegift, their unique flavor, their
unique thing.
And it's like if everyone isbeing their unique self, what a
fucking incredible world we'lllive in because it's it just
fits perfectly, like this bigweb, right?
And all the pieces fit with eachother.
Like you can't have five chefsand no dish guy.
That was a really bad example.
But you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's good.

SPEAKER_00 (38:53):
Like I I remember seeing Instagram.
So I in a prior life used to,would you believe it'd be called
Mr.
Social Media?

SPEAKER_02 (38:59):
Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 (39:00):
Oh wow.
I I set up one of Europe's firstsocial media agencies and I used
to speak a lot about it.
And I got very excited as uhInstagram was developing because
I was like, wow, people have to,you know, basically snapshot
their lives in a picture.
And and so I remembered like asInstagram was developing, people
suddenly were going for hikesmore, for swims more, or being

(39:21):
more active, more creative.
It initially obviously was for alot of artists, but as it
developed out, people it almostwas this encouragement to do
more with yourself.
And I I love this idea of likeyeah, we we we are encouraged to
be our individual selves.
Like I love the fact thatonline, uh, where people were

(39:42):
perhaps solo in theircommunities, like the only gay
in the village.
Well, in actual fact, if you'reonline, there's an enormous
community for you to tap into.
Or the only person with aninterest here, no, you're not
actually globally, there's ahuge community.
So I loved the way the internetwon in, say, social media, in
like there's obviously loads ofnegatives, but some of the
positives were it wasencouraged.
People to express theirindividual self, their creative

(40:02):
self, and then two, it gavepeople community in that
individuality, whereas beforethey were kind of the solos in
their community, and nowsuddenly they had real hardcore
community.
And I am I love rewinding alittle bit, but but this idea of
like there is a hero's journeyin all our lives, and it is not

(40:23):
meant to be blissful.
There's a kind of anunderstanding that when kids go
through p puberty, they'reannoying shits.
And there should all like I wishthere was a little bit more of
that around like, do you know,between 27, 28, 29, you're kind
of coming into a Saturn returnskind of time.
You're gonna go through chaos,you're gonna have like a quarter
life crisis, and that's okay.

(40:44):
Yeah, it's actually to beexpected, but I I don't think
there is that.
I think there's this idea thatyou know, really we should put
our best foot forward, we shouldbe as perfect, and if if there's
anything wrong, that's an issue.
Yeah, if you're in any waydifferent, that's an issue.
And I think one, a lot of peoplemiss out in the bl in the bliss

(41:05):
that can come from uh let's saya Saturn returns time, uh, and a
lot of people can miss out inthe gifts that they've been
given that perhaps in theirearly days look like issues.
And what I'm kind of hearing andgetting an idea from like
astrology, which obviously is abig part of your work, but also
that kind of like helping peopletap into themselves that little
bit more is helping people givea little bit more understanding

(41:28):
to themselves that these timesthat people think are happening
to them are not they'rehappening for them.
Yeah, they're very natural.
Yeah.
And in actual fact, it's a giftto get to experience that most
people are so busied in theirlives and stressed in their
lives that they don't even getto notice that they're unhappy
and disconnected, let alone gothrough the process that will
come from that.

SPEAKER_03 (41:47):
For me, my my question is how is this for me?
When anything happens that'seven mildly shitty, I ask
myself, how could this be forme?
How could this be working in myfavor?
How could this be supporting mein some way, right?
Some of the most fuckinghorrific things that I've been
through, I've been through a lotin five years.
People are like, oh, Oracle,that's easy.
I'm like, you have no idea thedepth of hell that I've had to
walk through in five years andwhat I've had to move through.

(42:09):
And I'm not saying that witharrogance, I'm saying that with
like, I was put on my knees andfucking humbled to be able to do
what I do.
And there used to be a pointwhere I'd be in victimhood
around like everything thathappened, and this is not fair,
and like, why do I have to holdthe weight of the world and it's
so heavy and like all theseinitiations is bullshit.
I just want to like fucking havea husband and go on land and
like, you know, like whatever,right?

(42:31):
And I started seeing it as likeI would notice when I was put on
my knees and I went through themost brutal heartbreak in my
fucking life, and I was like onthe floor wanting to kill
myself.
I've been to points many, manytimes where I'm pushed to such
grief and pain that I wouldn'tkill myself, holding the weight
of the world, right?
Having to clear that, move thatthrough my body, severe attack,
like I won't even get into likewhat I've had to go through,
squeeze like a diamond, right?

(42:53):
But on the other side of thatdeath, there is always a
rebirth.
And I'm so fucking thankfulbecause I look back and I'm
like, oh, I understand why thathad to happen to create this
version of me that you see here.
And she's gonna keep evolving.
There's always more.
And so whenever somethinghappens in my life that I find
deeply challenging or painful orjust it's uncomfortable, I now
have this higher perspective of,but look at everything that has

(43:15):
happened as a result of like Iwould not have two books
published that are bestsellers.
Like if I hadn't gone throughboth of my books, are literally
testimonies to like being put onmy knees in different contexts
and being forced to face anddeal with things.
Like they're my medicine nowthat I've refined, that I'm
helping people through.
And so if one person, I mean,more than one person's read the

(43:36):
books, obviously they'rebestsellers, but like if one
person benefits from what I wentthrough in my pain that I
alchemized, then it's worth it,right?
And so now I'm like, wheneversomething, something challenging
happens, it actually just bringsme closer to God.
It just brings me closer to mytruth, my and I ask my question
is like, how can I love throughthis?

(43:56):
Where is this just more lovewanting to come through that I'm
blocking the flow of love?
Because usually what it is,whatever happens, is just an
opportunity for more love for usto alchemize something into even
more love.
And that's really why I'm here.
Like that's my primary goal isto be a vessel of unconditional
love.

SPEAKER_00 (44:11):
I think that's a real um, it's a difficult thing
as like a friend, our parent,our lover, um, to let people
have their pain.

SPEAKER_03 (44:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (44:21):
To let people uh go through their suffering.

SPEAKER_03 (44:23):
Yeah.
My mom said to me, she said tome so many times, like, why do
you have to suffer?
I watch you suffer.
Well, I watch what you gothrough and like, I wish you
didn't pick this path.
I wish you didn't have to, like,I don't want to watch you suffer
like this.
And I'm like, Mom, I'm good.
I'm like crying, laughing,orgasming simultaneously, and
I'm good.
Like, I this is fine.

SPEAKER_00 (44:40):
Sorry, I'm trying to get that image out of my head.
Crying, laughing, orgasming.
All you needed to say was pooingat the same time.
It would have just been like,oh, good.

SPEAKER_03 (44:48):
Sometimes that does happen.
No, um, you know, and I try andexplain to her, I chose this
path.
I'm not a victim, I chose thispath.
Yeah, I could, I was gonna say Icould easily walk away from it,
but I can't.
Like, I I don't feel like I canbecause I've tried and it just
pulls me back because it's ahigher calling.
It's like I can't just be benormal, like it's not possible.

SPEAKER_00 (45:07):
I have this um I have this fantastic uh
astrologer, come astrocartographer that works for me.

SPEAKER_03 (45:13):
Oh, how did that go?
Oh my god, yeah, amazing.

SPEAKER_00 (45:15):
Uh yeah, his name's uh Andrew Smith, and uh I always
think it's very funny.
He has a waiting list of a year.
Um but he talked about likethere like in astrology, there
are moments and times.
Like I I love the definition ofastrology as simply the science
of timing and that there arecertain moments when there's

(45:36):
opportunities to learn lessons.
Yeah, and you can either openyour arms and accept them and go
through them, or you run awayfrom them and they come back
twice as challenging.
You can still perhaps run awayfrom that until the point that
you get swallowed up.
Yeah, and so yeah, I love I lovethis kind of understanding now
of like, well, there'sdefinitely wisdom in whatever's
unfolding here.

SPEAKER_03 (45:57):
And if you don't resist it, it's so much easier,
right?

SPEAKER_00 (46:00):
Yeah, and but to the onlookers, you may look like
this pain glutton when in actualfact it's like, no, no, I just
recognize this is my path, yeah.
I'm gonna dive through it.
Yeah, it's kind of lovely.
I have this image.
I I love my sea swims in themorning, and I I got caught.
It's kind of funny.
I was going into the sea withsomebody, they decided not to
get in because they thought itwas too wild.
So I was halfway in and I waslike, it's not wild at all.

(46:22):
It's absolutely perfect.
I turned around and no joke, I'msix foot five.
There was a wave easily twicethe size of me.
Oh, and it's one of the funnierthings, and like in a split
second, you have this like, doyou run away from it?
In which case you will literallyget bashed and scraped off the
sand.
Or do you duck and dive straightinto it?
You duck and dive straight intoit, and you go straight through,
and it almost pushes you at theend.

(46:43):
It's actually quite a lovelyexperience.
I think it's a great analogy forlife.
Yeah, and it's so difficult inall of those moments when you're
looking at a wave literallytwice the size of you, so
strong, so powerful, so loud,and it's like smile on my face,
straight through.

SPEAKER_03 (46:57):
It keeps reminding me of plant medicine.
And I don't I want to say forthe record, like I don't do
plant medicine anymore.
I don't need it.
I'm a walking ayahuasca journey,but at the start of my journey,
I did this five gram mushroomtrip, psilocybin.
It was like 2018 or so, 2019.
Such a small dose.
Yeah, just a tiny little baby.
Anyway, it was very challenging.
It was extremely challenging.
But before I went in, I had thismessage of like this this mantra

(47:20):
to go in with, mantra, sorry, ofI trust you, mama.
I trust you.
So there was this concept oflike whatever she was showing
me.
And I I relate to it like themother, the mother earth, the
mother spirit, the divinemother.
That's how I relate to my when Idid mushrooms.
I could feel it as this maternalenergy, right?
And the mycelium, it makes senselike that the mushroom would
show you that.

(47:42):
And there was this concept thatI went in with because I knew it
would be fucking challenging,because I tried to sabotage
myself from going many timessubconsciously, to the point
that I locked myself out of theapartment midway through a
bathtub, the day of the thing,so like I couldn't get back.
Yeah.
So things like that kepthappening because my ego was
shitting itself, knowing I wasabout to experience possibly the
biggest ego death I've everexperienced in my life.
Anyway, had this concept of thismantra, which is I trust you,

(48:04):
mama, I trust you.
Trusting that the divine, myhighest self, my inner whatever,
my soul, the mother, what wasgoing to be presented to me in
that journey, no matter howdark, no matter how painful, no
matter how uncomfortable it wasfor me.
It was something that was goingto support me deeply and not to
avoid it, to go headfirst intoit.

(48:25):
And so I find for me, you know,it really helped.
Because this like horrific stuffwould come up.
And I would just be like, I'mgonna go deeper into that.
Let's go the for my thingthroughout life, throughout
healing, throughout whatever theexperience is, is like, let's
feel this fully, completely,totally, go headfirst into it,
the shadow, the depth, the pain,the pleasure, whatever it is.

(48:45):
Feel it fully and don't turnaway from it.
It's a very tantric um path thatI walk, right?
Like, I'm not talking aboutsacred sexuality tantric, I'm
talking about engaging with lifein this full, full way.
Go into it fully, and then itpasses.
It's like that discomfortpasses, and you're on the other
side laughing your ass off, andyou're so connected to
everything, and you're like, ohmy God.
It was just this thing that Ihad to like see past it, that it

(49:07):
was just an illusion.
The pain was an illusion, theattachment was an illusion.
When I let go of thatattachment, it's like, ah, it's
like the heartbreaks I've beenthrough.
My Chiron, for anyone who knowsastrology, is in my seventh
house.
Lucky me.
Which means that my greatestpath for evolution and healing
has been my relationships, myintimate relationships.
And I have experienced extremeheartbreak so many times.

(49:29):
But it's gotten me to the pointnow where my most recent
experience with a man was likerecent, really recently, like
nothing happened, but I had thisdeep soulmate experience that
was very activating.
And in the past, I'd bedevastated and heartbroken and
like, why is this happening?
And this, I was like crying,laughing, orgasming
simultaneously when I was like,I'm so grateful that you came
into my life back and showed me.

SPEAKER_00 (49:49):
Fuck the Oracle side of things.
You just need to do a workshopteaching people how to cry,
laugh, and orgasmsimultaneously.
This seems pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 (49:56):
It's pretty amazing.

SPEAKER_00 (49:57):
Sorry, back.

SPEAKER_03 (49:58):
Yeah, but that that's I mean, that's what it
was when I realized, like, oh myGod, he didn't come in to make
me realize that I'm empty orwhatever, I'm in pain.
It's like he's showing me whatis like in the way of me being a
pure vessel of love, even purervessel of love.
And so it was like the pain wasthere, but underneath the pain,
there was this deep, profoundlike ecstasy of inner union,

(50:18):
like sacred inner union withmyself.

SPEAKER_00 (50:20):
I I find this side of things really hard.
Um, because I I I I similarly, Iwould say, like, what's your
greatest teacher?
It's love, it's relationship.
And um, oh, it's so nice to fallin love, so nice to have an
experience, like a honeymoonperiod.
And then let's say thenormalization, like the calming
of that as well.
That's so, so lovely.

(50:41):
But the the the breaks are arecertainly for me, have been so
unbelievably disorientating,challenging, um, upsetting.
And and there's this weird partpart of a grieving process.
Perhaps it's like, let's say sixmonths post-breakup, where you
you're still healing fromwounds, but at the same time,

(51:04):
you're recognizing the valueit's brought.
And uh sometimes the healing isan actual fact how you see how
you can love better goingforward.
You can um you can be more trueto yourself going forward and
more caring of yourself in termsof knowing what you want and
what you don't, what youtolerate and what you won't.
It's this, it's this odd, oddmoment I I have, and I have had

(51:28):
on numerous occasions where I'mlike, that was horrific, that
was horrible, but wow, that wasvaluable.
And it's it fascinates me.
Like you talked about plantmedicine, and I've done some
hell of uh hell of big journeyswith plant medicine, and the
nerves that go through me, thelike the the the the roller

(51:50):
coaster actually of emotions, itit fascinates me how before
these moments of eure theseeureka moments, we're met with
some of our biggest obstacles.
And so, like, yeah, that some ofthose plant medicine journeys
where I came away with wisdomthat I was like, oh my god, the
amount of resistance that cameup inside me before and the

(52:13):
amount of work that I had topush through, and also like that
feeling of like to love again,like to open your heart to
another is so difficult,actually.
Like it really is.
I think sometimes people want todistract themselves, you know,
but but actually to reallyproperly bear your soul and and
trust another and be vulnerablebefore another.

(52:34):
Like Alan B de Bosson has thisbeautiful quote to love somebody
is to be vulnerable um beforeanother.
And and yet still sounbelievably rewarding.
And I again I perhaps that's whyI challenge the abstinence
thing.
I because I'm like, um I thinkit's too easy to sit out of

(52:56):
life.
It's too easy to say, I've hadenough.
That's it, I'm on I'm I'misolating.
And I think it's very importantactually for family, for friends
to pull you back in.

SPEAKER_02 (53:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (53:06):
And to let you know it'll be worth it on the other
side.
Yeah, which you know it, whichit is.
Like life, life, we have abeautiful way as humans of
metabolizing challenges,experiences, of learning, of
progressing.
I think we prolong that when weisolate.
And when we come back intocommunity, we thrive.

SPEAKER_03 (53:23):
Yeah, I agree.
I also think generally when wefall in love with someone, we
are falling in love with thefeeling of being in love, which
is really just our essence,right?
That person is helping us to tapinto the love that is within us
always, right?
And so for me, it's like comingback to I don't need that person
to feel complete love.

(53:44):
I don't need that person to feelorgasmic all the time.
I don't need that person to feelfired up and like creative.
Like when you're in love, you'reso creative and you're doing all
these things and you feel so litup and like excited and oh my
God, my life's just beginning.
It's that feeling we're in lovewith.
It's not the person most of thetime.
So when that person goes, it'slike we can't access that
feeling and it's like, fuck,like I'm heartbroken.
Who am I without you?
And it's like for me, it's thislesson of like God keep or my

(54:05):
highest of my soul, whateverkeeps reminding me like it's not
that person.
The love is you, you are thatlove, you're that love, you're
that love.
You don't need that person.
They're just bringing it out inyou.
And I've noticed whenever Ialchemize a heartbreak and I
come back to that infinite lovethat I am, incredible works are
birthed through me.
Both of my books came afterhuge, massive heartbreaks.

(54:26):
And, you know, my abundancecompletely or like my money
flows open, like I heaps ofmoney, like amazing
opportunities, things just gobam, and they like right.
So I've seen this process somany times that I'm like, and
and the other thing is like theyjust the loves keep getting
better, more aligned, more likeyou said, like it's like we get
that opportunity to refine.
And so I know now from myexperience that love is

(54:49):
limitless.
It's not we're not limited toone partner, one pathway, one
one way of that love.

SPEAKER_00 (54:55):
And that's probably one of the ideas that's
programmed into us.

SPEAKER_03 (54:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (54:59):
You get one chance, one soulmate.

SPEAKER_03 (55:01):
Yeah, guys, there are so many soulmates.
I am living, breathing fuckingtestimony to this because I've
encountered at least seven, andthey're all brutal.
The most recent one, like, andyou were saying as well, like
the celibate, but you're not inconnection, and I want to
challenge you.
It's like I went through thiswhole experience with this man
without a relationship, norelationship.
Wow.
And I was having this completelymultidimensional fucking

(55:22):
experience where I was healingso much deep trauma from within
my heart, as if we were in anintimate relationship, no
intimate relationship.

SPEAKER_00 (55:30):
Like I find it so fun chatting with you in that
like so.
My belief is that um there aremultiple different dimensions
playing out all simultaneouslyin life.
And it's our it's our depth ofconsciousness, our perspective
that allows us to float from oneto the other.

SPEAKER_02 (55:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (55:46):
So if you think about it, like when we were
really young, um, we saw thelife simply.

SPEAKER_02 (55:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (55:51):
And as we perhaps matured a little bit more and
life started really beingchallenging, we think we thought
life happened to us.
But if we embrace some of thephilosophies that have been
shared in this podcast, youstart to see, well, actually,
you know, and there's a bit ofkarmic reflection there.
And if you can learn from that,you have much, much more power
for going forward.
I would say that as we deepenour consciousness and we can see

(56:11):
how we can take responsibilityfor things that play out in
life, we can take power tocreate different things that we
want in life.
We move to different dimensions.
And I think like what you'vedelved into is a deeper
perspective in terms of uhenergetics, in terms of
sensitivity, in terms ofpleasure.
And so you get to enjoy life ina different realm or a different

(56:34):
dimension as a result.
The likes of which somebody in adifferent dimension might look
on and go, Oh, that's crazy.
That makes no sense.
It's like, yes, it does, ofcourse, from your dimension.
But you get to play in thisdimension.
And I I think that's kind oflike why would you do why would
you do coaching with a mystic,for example?
It's like, or why would youengage with an oracle?
It's like, oh, because you getto see the world from a
different dimension.
You get to show up in the worldwith different dimensional

(56:57):
powers and realize a differentexistence as a result.
It's like life is fun when wealmost see it as levels.
Yeah.
And with each level, you get newtools, new skills, new
capacities to go back and do thesame life differently.
It's fantastic or the samethings differently.
So cool.

SPEAKER_03 (57:12):
The spiral.
That's such a beautiful way tolike tile that in.
Like I just what you said, Ilove it.
I didn't even feel like I cansay anything more, but like, and
also my level is like basicstarter kitch, starter kit level
compared to some beings outthere.
Like, and I'm aware of that.
So it's like we're always justevolving and there's no end.

SPEAKER_00 (57:28):
Yeah.
Like I it's I fend that a veryuh important note where my judgy
self from years ago would cut meoff from a lot of people.
I would think, oh, that person'scrazy.
Whereas now I'm like, somebody'scrazy, let me talk to them.
I want to understand what worldthey're in.
Yeah, and I um yeah, I find Ifound myself seeking out uh the

(57:49):
misfits, the odd types because Ithink there's wisdom.
Um, I think there's it's I thinklife it gets really, really,
really interesting when we startseeing it from different angles,
and all those different anglesopen up different opportunities,
which can be really useful andtangible and useful in um in
other areas.

unknown (58:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (58:11):
Yeah, I was feeling that coming.

SPEAKER_00 (58:13):
I was like, it's quite a pace we've been chatting
at.

SPEAKER_03 (58:17):
I always you should listen to my transmissions
sometimes, and I put them ondouble speed to listen back to
myself, and I'm like, no one'sgonna understand fucking it.
Luckily, it's all frequency.

SPEAKER_00 (58:26):
So let me ask you this.
I feel like I'm gonna squeezeyou for a bit of a cheap session
here.
Like but love to.
So coming back to Bali for methis chapter.
Um, I'm amazed at like what mybody is calling for, or like
what my soul is calling for.
It was like immediately like,Jamie, we don't want to have any
sugar.
I was like, wow, that'sinteresting.
We don't want any gluten.

(58:46):
It's like that's interesting.
Don't really drink alcohol,don't really purification to
coffee or anything like that.
Certainly no myth.
But like my body wanted that.
Then it was like, we want to doa yoga practice, want to really
open the body up, want to sit,want to read.
I found I have this insatiableappetite now to read all about

(59:08):
mystics and all about differentphilosophies in terms of
emotional release and livinglife.
Um and I I I I'm a big believerin that sometimes we like to
think too high far ahead of thegame and it blinds us in the
present.
So I just kind of focus on okay,well, where am I being led to?
And I'm noticing I'm being led,like sorry, led on this path.
My nervous system is calming alot.

(59:29):
The more I'm calming, the moreI'm able to sit with myself.
The more I'm able to sit withmyself initially, my thoughts
were all over the place.
But as let's say this detox iskicking in more and more, the
it's calming.
And I'm starting to get like alittle bit more decisive.

SPEAKER_03 (59:45):
Could you take this a few steps further and give me
a You're going through a missionrecalibration, which is I can
see in your field happening.
So, what's happening is you arebeing stripped back to bare
bones, basically, and clearedout of like say past timelines,
old bullshit, definitely a lotof.
The partying is like leavingyour system.
But there's also, I'm seeingnuggets that you're integrating
from those experiences that youhad, but you need to be in the

(01:00:07):
stillness and silence for yourfield to like fully land them
and integrate them.
So all of the, I'm seeing theinformation that you're picking
up and like reading andconsuming.
There's like this breadcrumbtrail of sp-I I say spirit, but
is leading your higher self'sleading you to consume more
information that's going tochange the trajectory of the
work that you're doing veryslightly.
It's like a nano.
You know how we were talking theother day about who you're here

(01:00:27):
to serve and it's refinement,refinement, refinement.
This feels like a very specificfrequency refinement in who
you're serving that is going tobe more precise and it's going
to have more impact than before.
But there's something thatyou're going to be bringing to
them and it feels likemetaphysical knowledge.
And it's like the fucking giftsthat we talked about that you
have that you're not using.
I feel like that's going to bean aspect of it, like the energy
work, but there's going to bepieces that you're learning from

(01:00:48):
what you're consuming.
Um, I'm also seeing your vesselsbeing cleared to be able to work
with energy in a more preciseway.
Bali's very powerful forbringing awake spiritual gifts,
um, catalyzing spiritual gifts,catalyzing sight, that sort of
thing, and purification.
It's on the feminine, masculine,dragon line.
I could go deep into that.
I'm not going to, but that's whyI'm here right now, running a

(01:01:10):
pilgrimage up this dragon line.
And this crossing point meansthat there is an intense purific
purification karmically thathappens.
So it's like closing all oldtimelines that don't really um
align anymore.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:22):
So this like to drag it on a little bit more, I find
it really interesting of likecertain friends I've met with
that I kind of caught up withand I realized in catching up,
it was like, oh, thisrelationship's kind of expiring.
Which you could say, it'ssaying, hey, we've had a lovely
friendship, but like let'srelieve the relieve ourselves of
this kind of sense that we needto connect anymore.
We don't.
Um, there's certain events andstuff that I've went went to

(01:01:45):
before that I enjoy that I'vegone back to since, and
immediately then and there Ifelt this repulsion, kind of the
likes of which you felt like,oh, this isn't for me.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:52):
You're moving into a different octave completely,
yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:55):
And fascinating as well.
Like, so chatting with people,I'm amazed as well how like
let's say the people that arecoming into my life are all like
so obviously following a similarpath, and others that are
perhaps just otherwise.
I suppose it's like be consciousof the company you keep because

(01:02:17):
some people will recognize you,see you, and compliment that on,
others won't.
They will see nothing in you.
And I've had some very abruptmeetings where somebody would
just go, Oh, you're far toointense for me.
I need to go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:32):
How do you think it is existing in my avatar?
I guess we'll call it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:37):
But I also felt the same as well that I was sitting
sat around one or two people,and I I actually everything
inside me was like, go, just go.
I had a moment where I was satwith somebody and I literally
had to say, I just need amoment, put my hand on my heart,
closed my eyes, tuned in, mybody was like, get away from
this.
So I was like, I need toapologize if this is going to be
abrupt, but I wouldn't behonoring myself.

(01:02:58):
Are you if I was here anymore?
Goodbye.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:00):
That abruptness, but also the necessity for that,
that's showing up a lot lot moreas well, which I think I'd like
to think is part of all of this.
It's not just cleansing terms ofthe city.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:12):
Precision and attunement I'm hearing because
you're very sensitive as well.
Like you wouldn't like say it,and probably people listening to
this don't know this, but I knowthis about you, and we've talked
about it.
You're sensitive to subtlefrequency.
And with me as an oracle, I haveto like literally fucking
isolate myself sometimes fordays.
So I'm like not receivinganyone's stuff because I pick up
on everyone's stuff all thetime, even if I don't want to.

(01:03:32):
I can like it's like it's mychannel's very clear, right?
And it goes me, source.
There's no anything else.
It's just me, source.
And so when I'm in fields withother people around them, I I
it's it's disrupted.
Sometimes it's disrupted.
So I have to go into silence andbe very, you know, like very
selective of who I talk to, whatI engage with, um, who's with me
so I can be a pure channel.

(01:03:53):
That's what I feel like'shappening for you.
It's happening physically withall the clearing that you're
going through, like the refiningof your diet and like all these
things that you've talked about,so your channels can be cleared,
but it's also happening in yourenvironment, in like who you're
being called to spend timearound, because we interface
with each other.
And even if, you know, we're notconsciously like, let's do some
energy work and sit and do atantric exchange.
Like we're exchanging codes withpeople all the fucking time.

(01:04:15):
We're being activated by them.
We're receiving.
When we were sitting down, Icould feel all sorts of energy
moving between us, like theother day when we were sitting
there, and I could feel, youknow, I was like talking about
kings, and I was like, whoa,like, you know, like we're
being, we're interfacing withdifferent mirrors all the time.
And then sometimes it's likethat mirror that's being
presented, either it's a triggerthat you need to look at, and
that person's triggering someshit, or it's like, oh, I've

(01:04:36):
done that lesson.
I've passed that, and I'vethere's nothing more for me to
learn here, so I'm gonna get upbecause this is a waste of my
fucking time.
I'm very discerning, not onlywith men, but like who I
actually hang out with.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:47):
Funny, that's one that's programmed into us again
societally to not be discerningother companies.
To be kind to be kind, to beunderstanding, to be loving to
everybody.
And it's like, hey, you can bekind and you can be loving, but
if you are entertaining acompany that is not entertaining
you, you are not being kind toyourself.
And in actual fact, you'rebullshitting them.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:03):
Yeah, yeah.
And this is why I also say topeople, like, be the most like
I'm so fucking weird.
You can attest to it.
Like, I don't give a shitanymore about how weird I am.
And I put it out there, like Iimmediately put it out there
with anyone that I'm hangingout.
I don't like lay it on, but likeI'm just myself.
I'm just completelyauthentically myself.
And it's like people just letthemselves out the door if they
can't handle me.

(01:05:24):
And here it's funny, I find I'minvisible in Changgu.
I'm invisible, like literally, Ijust people don't notice me,
which is insane.
Because it's like there's awhole area of people, and people
just walk like they just I'minvisible.
And it's because I'm not evenlike it's just like they just
can't see me.
I'm not like in the same realityas people, and so they just

(01:05:46):
don't, you know, like there'sjust this resonance with people,
and people you have resonancewith energetically, you
gravitate towards.
But I find here more thananywhere, I mean there are some
people I have immediateresonance with, but here more
than anywhere, I'm in a gym andI'm like, wow.
Yeah, like I'm not people aren'teven, they don't see me, you
know, which is great.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:04):
I I think it's it's funny that you said great,
because to to others they mightfind that that's the saddest
thing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:09):
And what I love is that like we get to live life
however we like.
Like, there's let's say such anaffection for people saying I'm
a particular diet type.
Yeah, like you're missing thepoint.
Yeah.
You can use a vegan diet tostart like meditating and deeper
connecting deeper and fasterwith the with different realms,
or you can use a meat diet tofeel really grounded.
You can eat a fast food diet tonumb yourself.

(01:06:31):
You don't need to just subscribeto one.
You can you can enjoy andactually use different diets to
your advantage for whereveryou're at in life.
The same way, let's say, forexample, like in environments.
Like I love this.
Like I talked about Andrew, theastrologer, he's really an
astrocartographer, and the ideathat different lands tune to you
but differently, they bring outdifferent elements in you.

(01:06:52):
And that you'd love this.
Can I tell you something?
Yes.
We're going through the uh theadvertising of my business at
the moment, and uh, and so I metwith him to determine what are
the cities around the world thatwould connect with my energy
most, and we programmed the adsbased on that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:07):
Wow.
Oh my god, that is epic! I knewyou'd like that.
That is some meta.
I love that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:12):
Yeah, and I I know somebody might be listening on
being like, what am I?
Yeah, that's enough now.
I am not listening to this guyanymore, but I will tell you,
I've tested it.
Yeah, and I've tested it amongstmarkets that like I thought I
should be good in versus the themarkets that are tuned, let's
say, to me and my astrology, andmine perform better always.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:32):
Are you going by your Jupiter point, or like what
do you what do you know whatspecifically he's using?

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:36):
At this point, I don't know.
Thank God I lean into him forthat.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:39):
Well, my Jupiter runs straight through Bali, and
I can tell you whenever I'mhere, money just comes.
Yeah, yeah.
So it is it's very it isaccurate.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:46):
Yeah, I I I so a big part of my travel is I'm like, I
want to go to different placesand experience different parts
different means, and and peoplethink that's crazy, but it's
like, no, there's very obviouslyuh obvious societal differences
in different lands, yeah.
Um and energetic as well, andenergetics, but the energetics
is part of perhaps like somepeople might not get or get, but
they get the societaldifferences, and so when you are
in those lands being metdifferently by people, it shows

(01:08:10):
you up differently, yeah, andyou get to discover different
parts of yourself, cultivatedifferent neural passageways if
you want to be all like scienceborough about it.
And then when you leave, you getto choose what elements you take
and what elements you leavebehind, which brings up a great
question is like, who are youover and above your environment?

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:27):
Is that a rhetorical question?

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:29):
Well, it was a big one for me because I I spent 30
years in Dublin and like I'mblessed with a really lovely
family, network, friends,everything.
And so much of that spoke forme.
Yeah.
And when I left there, and likewhen I first came to Bali, it
was really interesting.
Somebody being like, Who areyou?
What do you do?
I was kind of like, You shouldknow what I do.
You should know.
I like I had this sense ofmyself that was just erased.

(01:08:52):
And now I I love that because itgives you a great sense of okay,
well, you're not your past,you're not your reputation.
You actually don't have areputation, you're a blank
camist.
Who are you actually?

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:01):
And that's a lovely, lovely um space to get to work
with every so often.
So yeah, that's been a bigmotivator for me traveling more
recently is just when you're ina completely different
environment, nobody knows you,you have nothing behind you.
How do you show up?
How are you?
When nobody's watching you, whatdo you do?

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:18):
I think that for me, like was why when I came here, I
was guided to come here yearsago, like five years ago.
It's like I had nothingreminding me of who I was in my
past, and so I could have thisclean slate to heal and clear
and activate and become someonenew.
It's like a complete death.
So I completely agree with that.
That's all I'm just gonna say.
I agree with that, and also likeI like the me that's in Mexico,
she's really spicy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:39):
That's I love that you said that because I I find
myself hilarious in New Yorkwhere suddenly I'm like, I'm
gonna take over the world, andall I want to do is work hard,
play hard.
Or I love I love me and Bally,like Jamie is in retreat mode.
Um, me and a Beta.
Oh god, you would be brilliant,absolutely brilliant.

(01:10:00):
Interesting, me in London,depressed.
Yeah, immediately like justoverwhelmed, depressed, not
good.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:06):
Um I think that's everyone in London, to be fair.
That's a pretty depressingplace.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:12):
Yeah, it's such a tough environment.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:14):
Heavy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:14):
I I just when I think of London, I think of
ambulances because wherever Igo, there's either fights,
bicyclists getting into fightsor ambulances going by.
It was pretty much every day Iwould see that, and I was like,
that's enough.
It just it it it it yeah, ittook a toll on uh on me.
And I I I think that's actuallya really important thing as well
of knowing, like, yeah, someenvironments bring out the best,
others are actually not are notgood for you.

(01:10:36):
And for however you might bestruggling in that environment,
and it might be so hard to thinkof being elsewhere.
Well, think of it actually, ifthe odds were tilted more in
your favor, how well would yoube doing?
I would argue that so manypeople that are suffering in one
place could be enormouslysuccessful in another, and it's
a thing we should take much,much, much more seriously.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:52):
And can I just add one little because I'm like I
have to it's like such a bigpart of the work that I do.
Different lands have differentfrequencies and different codes
that we activate by being onthat land, like energies,
ancient memories, likemysteries, these things in your
face, just like No, I love this.
Um yeah.
Um, there was a shift in yourface, it was interesting to
watch.
I I didn't know what it was.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:12):
Um I'll tell you exactly what it was.
At the start, you said that youwere working with sacred sites.
Yes.
And mentally I had this thing ofI want to talk about that.
Okay, well, it's coming back.
And so now that you're bringingit up, you're like the zone,
you're like laying thefoundation for it.
It's quite an interesting thingsitting with somebody and
saying, Okay, we're gonna have aconversation.
There are like it's like itopens up a bit of a filing
cabinet of mine, and there'sloads of different parts that

(01:11:35):
I'm like, oof, I'm gonna comeback to that.
The sacred sites.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:37):
Great, amazing.
So I believe that within theactual lands themselves, there
is information coded,information, knowledge, wisdom
from our forefathers, from ourancestors, but different lands
have different frequencies aswell.
There are certain places on theearth who are more they're more
powerful, like Bali, forinstance, big fucking
purification portal here.
And it's based on where sothey're ley lines under the

(01:11:58):
earth.
I call them dragon lines.
There's feminine dragon lines,masculine dragon lines.
You can just think of them asmeridians if you don't want to
go into the deep metaphysicalspeak around it.
Like they're just likemeridians, which are like the
energy channels in our bodies,right?
Highways.
Highways, perfect, got it, thereit is.
Um, so yes, so there are thereare very rare that there are
crossing points of these twomasculine and feminine lines.

(01:12:20):
It's like in in in Chinesemedicine, you can think of them
as a yin and yang line.
Like there's different currents,they run different directions, I
guess you could say the mostsimple one is giving, one is
receiving.
It's a it's a very simple way toboil that down so I don't sound
like a fucking crazy spiritualperson, which I am.
Um, so Bali has a very bigvortex of, it's an amplification

(01:12:41):
of cosmic energy, which helps usto purify and to clear.
And there's a phenomenon herethat even non-spiritual people
fucking know of.
All the nomads here will tellyou this is a thing and it is
known.
Bali will bring you in and shewill spit you out if you're not
meant to be here.
She will eject you.
People have like all sorts ofintense things happen, like they
have a bike accident withintheir first three days, their

(01:13:02):
villa gets broken into, theircar gets stolen, they get
robbed, and it's like, what thehell is going on here?
You've known this, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:08):
Or when it comes to say me saying, Oh, I've come
here and suddenly I kind of needsugar, I need to go to the gym,
I need to this, I need to that.
You're called to purify.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:16):
Yes, so she is very activating.
She's a karmic purificationportal.
So if you have any karmic shitthat you need to deal with,
she'll bring it all up to thesurface, which is super fun for
my first two years here.
But she's also deeplyactivating, right?
Peru is a very similar grid.
It's a very similar, it's alsofeminine, masculine lines cross.
In Peru, there's Lake Titicaca,which is the sacral chakra of
the earth.
This time last year I was theredoing, I was transmitting um a

(01:13:39):
retreat, an online retreat,working with the energy there
because these energies activateour energies.
So the sacral there pings oursacral, and then we sync with
that sacral, we receive codes,we receive upgrades, we receive
enhancement of energy, right?
So there's that level of thework, which I do is working with
these natural, naturalamplification points of energy.
Um, usually they're where stonecircles or sacred sites are,

(01:14:02):
because our forefathers knewthat there were this quality of
like the life force in the earthis more powerful, or
interdimensional gateways couldbe open there, or um, you know,
if an alignment hits at thispoint of the sun and the moon
and Venus, this will access thispoint.
Like there are specific pointsin the earth where it's um it's
more it's like more simple oreasy to happen.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:25):
I I always find something like this it gets a
little bit boggling to a point.
And then it's like, well, onesecond, think about it.
Provided you come from a nicehome.
If you go home, you know, homeis generally a place where you
can take off your armor, you canbe yourself.
But there's a frequency there.
Yeah, there's a frequency thatallows you to be yourself.

(01:14:45):
And then let's say you go to avery sexy sushi restaurant.
I don't know if you've ever hadit, but I gone to a very sexy
sushi restaurant and suddenly Ifeel like an absolute romantic.
I feel cool, right?
I feel this like this suddenthis frequency of cool comes
into my body.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:59):
Right.
And then there's people.
There's people in my life thatlike for whatever reason,
sometimes they make me feel likea piece of shit.
And I end up exaggerating andtalking myself up different to
how I actually am.
Yeah.
There's others that I can be soraw and vulnerable with.
They emanate a frequency.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:18):
A frequency of understanding or a frequency of
inferiority.
The home, a frequency of safety.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:25):
Um, and hell, sometimes you feel like you
climb a mountain, you feel likeyou can take over the world.
Um, and then there's otherenvironments where for whatever
reason you feel unsafe, justwalk into a haunted house or a
supposedly haunted house.
I I think it's funny that whenyou talk about, let's say,
energetic ley lines anddifferent uh sacred sites and
the transmissions, people arelike, oof, it's the language.

(01:15:46):
But we actually experience thisall the time.
There are places where we feelstrong, places where we feel
weak, people who we feel strongwith, people who we feel weak
with.
And that is just something thatcan be studied, that's something
that can be mastered.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:59):
And like that is where when we talked at the
start of this conversation aboutwhy have people been pulled away
from the mystics.
Yeah.
Because at a deep unenergeticlevel, if you understand magic
and mysticism, you know how tocommand attention, you know how
to influence on mass likewise.
But if you don't, you're oh sosusceptible to those who do.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:19):
Yeah.
Wow.
Fucking thank you.
I love, I love when someonetakes a spiritual concept and
makes it like a really logical,because I would never think like
that.
And that's so great that youraudience can hear that and like,
you know, like relate to whatI've said in a different the
other thing that was comingthrough to say is like cultural
conditioning, the land receivesthat.
Like so in Ireland, when there'sa certain type of person feeling
a certain type of frequency,practicing certain rituals, like

(01:16:42):
the land remembers and holdsthat information.
So you go there and you'repicking up on that energy from
the culture, the people there,right?
Like it's encoded into the land,or like if there is, for
instance, like rich knowledge,like I'm thinking of like the
pyramids in Egypt, like there'sdecades, decades, a bit more
than decades, thousands of yearsof rich spiritual practices,

(01:17:02):
prayers, that sort of thing.
Like you pick up on all theprayers in Bali because of the
energy that's being emanatedfrom the people.
So it's like the people of theplace also encode those places.
And if you're attuned and ifyou're willing, you can go to
these places and ask, like likea sacred site, and you can ask,
hey, I would like to receivewhat's here, like for me in
discernment.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:23):
And isn't it so cool?
Isn't it so cool that uh life isso much more deep and so much
more magical than we are led tobelieve?
I I have this idea.
It was actually my first magicalmushroom trip of around five
grams, where I I felt it wasthis such a like I hope someday

(01:17:44):
I get to create it in animationswhere it was like I took the
mushrooms and slowly but surelyI descended into this into the
depths of myself where I foundmyself on a chair and I swiveled
that chair around and I was metby a board table of all my
guides who sat me down and werelike, Jamie, we need to talk to
you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:04):
I love this energy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:06):
And I'm on the other side of it, and like the other
side of that conversation wasnow if you could just realize
that for however interesting youthink life is out there, it's so
much more interesting in here.
And for whatever powers youthink you might be able to build
and accumulate out there, waittill you see what's possible for
you in here.
And that's that's that was thecatalyst for all the change in

(01:18:27):
my life.
I was like, oh wow, let's doubledown on an internal world and
journey.
Um, and that that's where Istarted leaning, let's say, into
energetics, into magic, intomysticism.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:39):
Believe it or not, like I was not always like this.
I was very skeptical.
This journey for me, six yearsago, I read some fucking law of
attraction book and I was like,what a load of BS.
But on the off chance, this isreal, God give me a mess, or
like something, right?
It was like I taunted theuniverse.
If this is real, which led medown a rabbit hole.
And now I live this life, whichis like it's like a fantasy

(01:19:00):
fiction film.
Like literally everything that Isee in fan is my life.
The things that I'm doing, likeif I started sharing some of
them, I think most of yourlisteners would think that I'm
insane.
Um, because it does get prettycrazy and it gets more and more
crazy the further you go, and itbecomes more like this fantasy
fiction film.
But the way that I relate to itis like maybe I am, and I talk
about this in my first book,maybe I am fucking just nuts.
Maybe I'm just clinicallyinsane.

(01:19:22):
I'm schizophrenic, I'm crazy,I'm seeing things, I'm hearing
things.
But I would prefer to live inthis magical mystery tour that
is my fucking life, whereeverything is serving me and I'm
working with aliens and I get tobe orgasmic all day long, and
you know, everything's this bigcosmic journey and it's magical
than living in inane day to daylife where there is no

(01:19:46):
afterlife, there is no soul.
We die, we go on the ground, Idon't get to choose what I
create.
Like, if I'm fucking crazy,great.
I'd rather be crazy.
I would rather be crazy becausemy life is beyond.
Like, I share stories from mylife with people, and they're
like, holy like that'sincredible and I'm like I get to
live this life where I travelaround the world working with
sacred sites and writing booksabout it and meeting soulmates

(01:20:07):
and like lying on the beachfucking just orgasming without
anyone touching me like I get tolive that life it's so good and
then money comes in because I'mdoing that it's like whoa right
I get to live that life whereI'm remembering my past
lifetimes as a an oracle inDelphi and whatever else how
cool is that like that's life isso much more fucking exciting
living like this than just beinglike yeah so if I'm delusional I

(01:20:30):
love my delusion that I'vecreated and it's fucking great.
I love it too.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:34):
Yeah back yeah thank you that was a good so much that
was that was that was your micdrop mate um I'll share all your
links in a bio but I'm sureyou're as open arms and well no
actually unless you are anemperor or an empress.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:49):
Yeah these arms are staying shut now kidding I help
a lot of people with a lot ofdifferent levels of where
they're at lovely lovely wellthank you so much for this thank
you this has been fun pleasure

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