A Chat with Trance Medium Mark Elliott Fults

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Episode Transcript

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Join us as we dive into thehistory, hauntings, and high strangers of
the world to try to better understandthe paranormal. I will be your guide.
I am paranormal researcher and investigator EricFreeman Simms. Welcome to the Unseen
Paranormal Podcast. Hey everybody, welcomeback to the show. I am Eric,

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your host as usual, and thankyou for tuning in. I'm sorry
the show is a day late thisweek, but been very busy and if
you haven't seen the big announcement onFacebook yet, we have bought a two
hundred year old haunted house. Itis known as the JB. Nighthouse.
The Night Family live there for eightyfive of the two hundred years and we're
a very prominent family. It isin Hawkinsville, Kentucky, and we will

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are working on it. Will beworking on it to get it up and
ready for paranormal investigations coming very soon, so be on the lookout for that.
Also, I've started a Facebook pagefor the JB. Night House.
If you go look it up andjoin that, I will put a link
on the Unseen Paranorleal podcast page andthat's where I'll be posting pictures and updates
on everything that we do to thehouse and do some videos and things.

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We'll be working on it quite abit coming up. The house is livable
now, it's not falling down anythinglike that. It's very starty house and
very well built, and the previousowners did a lot of work to it,
but we have a lot of workto be done as well as any
two hundred year old house needs.It needs a lot of upkeep and there's
things that need to be done toit. So we're going to get on
that, and like I said,stay tuned. We're going to have a

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website for the house and I willlet you know when it is ready for
investigations and you can come rent itout and investigate and spend the whole night.
So looking forward to that. That'sthe big announcement that I've been teasing
for a while. We've been workingon it looking at houses. This was
one of the first houses that welooked at and finally took us a couple
of months when we finally made adeal and bought it from the previous owners.

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So this week we have a reallycool guest. He is a trance
psychic medium and his name is MarkElliott. Falts, and he is good
friends with our friend sen Trader Hill, the author and good friend of the
show, good friend of mine,and she turned me on to him and
we had a great conversation. Heis a great guy and a great great

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guy to talk to and lots ofstories and lots of information. So without
further ado, we'll get to thisweek's show. Here we go, check
out Mark Elliott Foltz and uh we'llchat next time. Have a good day,
stay safe, other Hey, Mark, thanks for joining us on the
show today. Well, thank youfor having a man. Yeah, it's
my pleasure. And just so everybodyknows the audience, we've never met,

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but we share a mutual friend thatwe're both really good friends with, Sin
Trader Hill. Yes, love herto death. She's amazing. Yeah,
she she's real, a good friend. Yeah, really good. And you've
done you've you've written some things withher and also done some artwork for her
books. Oh, yes, yes, we actually met. The very last

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time I was working with a groupthat it was the last time I was
going to do anything with them,and I was sick as a dog,
and we were at a haunted hospitalin Feyaville, and I met her just

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right before I left, and westayed friends and I started I've been doing
books since two thousand and six,are working on books and doing them,
and so we started collaborating on ourown and so we just do that.

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I'm an artist, I'm you know, besides being an author, I'm an
artist doing an album and stuff.So I cover a lot of the arts
from what I do, and sowe were just very interested in so quite
a few of the same thing.So we've been having a lot of fun

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putting books together. Yeah, she'samazing. I love her. Yeah.
Yeah, we're fixing it on anotherinvestigation together and we just have a blast.
Okay, Well sometimes if I'm downand Ennia come and up in my
joe, yeah, yeah, forsure. Yeah, I'd love to have
you. And she askedally blew meaway. She asked me wrote the forward

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to her latest book, and soI did it, and it came out
a while back. But that wasI don't know why she asked me,
but I guess she likes it.Well I would like it. So,
you know, She's made a fewappearances in the docu investigation docu series that
we're doing called Strangely Haunted with myfriend Austin and she's going to be in

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the next one too. We useas a trigger object at a ja ill.
So okay, well that works causeshe's you know, they're like they
like yeah, yeah, So howdid you You are a psychic medium and
you do a lot of metaphysical stuff, So how did you get into I
know a lot of people are bornwith abilities like I'm an impath myself.

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I've never called myself a medium oranything. I'm really good with energy and
leading people's energy. And how didyou develop your psychic and mediumship abilities.
Well, my mother's mother and mymother were and my apparently my grandmother was

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very psychic and I was always fascinatedwith that, and from about the age
of six on I started exhibiting alittle bit of that talent. Yeah that
I wasn't in a family where thatwas really accepted very well, yeah,
so I always is interested in itand well, yeah, everything comes from

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your electromagnetic field, which is producedby your third eye. And if you
get blows to the head and stufflike that, it will alter your electromagnetic
film. You become it'll overcompensate andyou become more sensitive. And when I
was young I got abused a lot. I would say when I was a

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child, I got at least fourconcussions from abuse, So I think those
helped open the third eye a littlebit. And then then I had a
catastrophic event when I was thirty,when I was living in Chinago, was

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attacked in a random act of violence, and came back from that, did
the near death experience twice, andthat just I'd seen things for I've been
in metaphysics studying since I was eighteen. Yeah, and you get it in
your head, you know, AndI mean I was always kind of sensitive,

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but after that event, then Iwas. It just altered and changed
what I did, and it expandedmy electromagnetic field basically, and I just
started, you know, working differently, being more you know, working towards

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it. It was it wasn't likeBung, you know, it all fell
into place. It was. Itwas because you have to adjust, and
I had to learn how to turnit up, how to turn it down,
how to create meditations, to controlmy aura, because everyone has an
aura, and that's just your can'tscam and so when you come into information

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somebody else, you know, youscam them, you pick up stuff from
them. And vice versa. Soyou know, so I break it down
into more of like a metaphysical naturalscience. It's just the unseen science that
you know, most people don't acceptthat we are electrical beings and or that,

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you know, I mean if itdoesn't fit in with their religious belief
or whatever. You know, thereare elements of it that everyone just has
and it's just natural. And whatI do is just natural for me.
It just is, you know,I see weirder things, but I've had
more concussions and I say, droppedon my head art of the dead and

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call myself the fat so I couldbecause I am I'm one hundred pounds more
than what I used to speak.And so you know, I do it
with a little bit of comedy sometimesbecause some of it is pretty funny,
and then some of it is youknow, very very serious. And uh,

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I have people come to me allthe time, you know, to
look at no problems or talk tothem, and it's just you know,
it's all natural. It's like youknow. And then people when they they're
so afraid of death, yea,And I mean I don't like pain,
believing that after my death experience,the transitioning part is so fantastic that you

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know, you just don't worry aboutthat. Then you have to worry about,
well, what am I getting donewhile I've got time? And then
you don't worry about death because deathtakes care of itself. And it's actually
a wonderful experience once you start gettingpast the physical part, it's wonderful.
So but that's kind of like whatstarted me on it. And then I've

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been in several metaphysical groups, severalghost setting groups, several of this and
the other, and you you justlearn so much from people who are authentic
and people who are scams and scamand I had to it's not a tribe,

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you know, you have to youhave to really be careful, you
know, what you do around peopleand with people and their ulterior motives,
and and you know also knowing whoyou are, what's your skills, what
are you bringing to the table,and what you expect you know, And

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I at this point, at sixtytwo, I have a lot of things.
I don't like to be unethical towardsspirits. I don't like to because
I mean, if you're speaking toan energy of any sort, you know
it can be I mean, it'sprior people, you know, physical people,

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and so you want to treat themethically, but you know, professionally,
And so I look at it kindof like that, you know.
So it's and then you know,I have it's such a serious subject sometimes
that you have to do something tobreak the monotony here and there, and

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you can't, you know. SoI mean like sim and I she's helping
me do by I mean, Grandmais going to a cook but and which
you know, love do a cookingshow off at the path circuit goes cooking
and you know, we just havefun. But when I need to sit
down and be serious, I canbe serious as art attack. Yeah.

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But you also you just have toyou know, you have to know what
you can do and do it.Yeah. Yeah. And one of the
things you said, I think itmight be the best explanation I've ever heard
of the psychic medium stuff and evenimpact stuff, is that it's your electromagnetic
field and your aura kind of downloadinginformation from other people and from the from

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the dead, and energy of placesand things like that. I think that's
perfect example. I always call myselfa lighthouse in the dark too, because
they tend to be attracted because they'relike, oh, it's somebody who can
you know at least acknowledge me,you know, And so they a lot
of times they're attracted to that.I think, oh, exactly, and

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they are. And we do looklike like in the fog, because everything
is kind of like a fluid.We're moving through we're moving through dark matter,
we're moving through electromagnetic plasma. We'remade out of electromagnetic plasma and our
auras. I've seen one thing Isaw somewhere this It was great. It

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was an orb which is you knowwhen a spirit, when the person is
not in the body anymore. Whatthat is is they're just a battle of
energy and that energy circles around theorb is the third eye. And when

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your body is created, you know, when your spirit is in your body
and it's the body is formed aroundit and it's functioning, it creates a
fluid or a plasma form of everythingyou've got, so that when you die,

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you really have a like a gummybeer, you know, shape,
you know, form of yourself thathas all contains all of that in a
fluid form. And I've seen aorb before that you could see that the
eyes in the eye mechanisms in theorb itself, and I thought that was

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fascinating, but it's yeah, andthen when you're you get close to those
orbs, then your cat scan orI reads it and you see a ghost
or whatever it is or or youknow, some things are spirits, some
things are not, some things arerecorded, some things are conscious, and

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so you know, it just takesso you have to look at each one
because each one is different. It'sjust like a snuff, like nothing is
the same. There are there arethings that never change that are pretty well
you can go, okay, Iknow what that is. But each person
in situation is different, so eachthing should be a little have its own

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details. And but you yeah,when you see when I come into contact
my energy field comes into contact withsomething else, then you know, I
listen. I learned to listen towhat it's sank, what the aora picks

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up through the frequency and then itdownlows through your bird on you go,
oh, okay, you know you'llget the feeling that's like when you when
people go I'm an impat or you'refeeling that through your or around you,
and it's just it's telling that whateverthat information is projecting that's what you're picking

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up and the sharper you get yourtool. Then then it begins where you
don't just feel you begin to gookay, you know, well this is
what they're saying or what it means. But sometimes you have to be careful
not to open yourself too much becauseand if somebody knows you can hear them,

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they're gonna you know, they don'thave a body to get tired in,
and they'll bug the crap out ofyou. And you're you're awake a
lot because your system is going there'ssomething happening, something happening. So I
learned to how to tell people toturn it down, you know, make
a little dial and just turn itdown when you don't need it, because
you have to. You know,you still have a life to live.

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They just want to talk, andso it's you know, but it's it
can be a fascinating investigating everything outthere that you know, when people think
you're dead, you're really not dead. You know your body may have fallen
off, that you know your energy, your frequency, and if they if

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you transition and go through the naturalprocess, you get into the consciousness and
then that you can come back andforth as an energy if you don't,
which is totally up to the energyitself. Then they have to learn how
to eat and function around living people, which they don't have a life anymore.

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So they have to learn how toeat and out of function, and
that's where you get hauntings. Andthe chill is you know, their cold
plasma, so they absorb their moreheat, so they get around you.
And as you know, if theycan do something and scare you, do
you put out a little energy?You know, you just gave them a
meal. Yeah, so if theyhave enough consciousness and intelligence, they know

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how to get a meal. Yeah. With batteries draining and things like that
on investigations, Oh yeah all thetime and not necessarily all go you know,
not necessarily all things like it aretrying to scare people. It's just
a lot of people get scared ofthem. Yeah, that's what I tell
a lot of people like you knowwho just because you got scratched or touched

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or pushed, maybe that's the onlyI like it. So the movie goes
with Patrick Swayze where he has tolearn how to touch things and maybe that's
the only thing they can do toget your attention. They're not trying to
hurt you. They're not trying topush you downstairs. Not sure they're trying
to scratch you, but that's onlyway they can physically get your attention.
And too, that's a little bitof a modern thing that people expect from

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consenting. Yeah, and I thinkthere's got oh you know, okay,
that's I mean a lot we cantry that. But when I was young,
you didn't hear about that as much. Uh the when I was very
young, I got bit by aculture gized one of them. It didn't
hurt, but look L Toddler hadjust taken his whole set of teeth and

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bit me on my cap. Andbut I you know, you didn't hear
the phenomenon of people being scratched orthings like that until after the Exorcist came
out. And then you know,and then maybe that you know, they
she had scratches, she had blisters. I would say, help me or

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whatever, And so that became partof the ghost Hunters guidebook. You know,
they were like, oh, youknow, I got bad, I
got scratched, and so but ifthat's what it takes, sometimes that's it
takes, you know, and I'lldo what it takes. Yeah, I

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went that satanic panic. I thinkwe've had another resurgence of that from the
eighties in the seventies, and youknow, it's a buzzword. The whole
demon thing is a buzzword. Andthen people, I just find it funny.
And I asked this question online.Somebody had put up a one of
the paranormal groups. You know,I'm a member of a thousand of them.

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Somebody put up a picture where theyhad three scratches, and they automatically
jumped to some demonic mocking of theTrinity supposedly, And I'm like, can
somebody ask this question? And alot of people liked the question, but
nobody can answer it. And Iasked them and said, where in the
Bible does that say that? That'slike in your religious texts? I'm agnostic,
I don't do religion, but inyour religious text that you're claiming your

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Christian and this comes from a demonicplace of mocking on the Trinity just because
it's three scratches, where's that written? Is that just something that you're regurgitating
because that's what you've heard on TV, or you know, can you specifically
show me where that is a thingwithin religion. You know, well,
some people grab onto because it's excitingand to the thing with like you know,

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people think that Catholics with the roadthe exorcism, they're they're the control,
you know, the masters of exorcism. Well, they don't want to
do them because for the most part, they piss a lot of things off

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because they're looking at it through aspiritual lens and some of that some spirits
are not you know, if theyaren't beholden to whatever you're hollering at them,
they can get kind of mad anduh. But in my case,
what I think you deal with everythingis energy and you push things out and

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make boundaries and barriers. So alot of exorcisms, actually an exorcist will
say, you know, a worldCatholic will say, you go, yeah,
that's why they have all this stuffwhere you have to jump to through
hoops and hoops and hoops and hoops, and then maybe they'll send somebody and
maybe not, but they don't wantto deal with it because they know that

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a lot of it, you know, there there's a lot of variations and
if it's not something that really caresfor while you're pushing at it, it's
you know, I've seen spirits thatwere not And then when people know about
demons, you know, there areconsumptive bad things out there that are bad

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towards us because for good reason insome cases. But they're very rare.
But then there are spirits and energiesthat go, oh, you want to
see something then you know you wantto call me that, you know,
because it would be just like somebodycoming up off the street that you don't
know, insulting you, right,and you know you want to you know,

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pull the waves out, you know. So it's no different. You
know, It's that I've seen peoplewho you know, the spirit could open
the cabinet. Well, it's demonicquite you know. And when I was
young, I remember there was athing, you know, there was some

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kind of tup aware was six sixtysix on it and I thought, what
does it say? Butter? Youknow, I mean, you know what
are you know you open it?It's you know, toys were possessed.
This was Now you know something thatis I mean, there are things that
are infected and the possessed, andthere are something that is very rare.

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Yeah, I mean I have twoobjects. I have haunted dolls, but
I have nicely haunted ones that Ihave two items that I have to keep
sealed, and they're pretty bad,but they're only activated though, if you
activate them. And in the twoitems or I mean one I have is

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a very rare book by Sybil Eiku, who is a very large, well
known which in the sixties and seventies. She people probably don't know who she
is now, but she did abook called Drawing Out the Devils. Well,
it has exorcism stuff in it,and it's in the copy that I

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have. Someone did something with itand left it running, you know.
So if you read the book,if you just start doing the back you
know, and you know, youstart having the problems, you know,
which is the fetch the woman comingto the you know, coming towards you
and anybody, be waiting for youto tell her what to do. And

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so so I keep it sealed,and I don't, you know, I
would like to do experiment with itand show people how things have energy and
how they are affected. But it'snot a per se a demonic thing.
It's just a someone using darker,older energy to get a result of something

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and then getting bored and leaving itrunning, you know. So it's yeah,
no tomic stuff. A lot ofpeople run to that as their first
excitement bill or fear, and it'snot as common ass you know, just

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you know, sometimes it's just abum spirit, you know, hanging out
in your house or you moved intoon somebody. One of my mottos that
I always say is, if you'rean asshole in life, you're probably gonna
be anssle on death. Oh Imean I have met that one. I
mean, you know, you're morelikely to come across a nasty spirit who
is just grumpy or whatever than youare you know, yeah something demonic or

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or yeah something yeah yeah yeah.And if they were controlling and abusive and
they didn't transition and go on,because even though people people can be affected
by the chemistry and their body bychemical imbalances, by being skipped or being

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you know whatever. Yeah, andso when they die, if you transition,
that stuff at some point burns offbecause you have a your energy that
comes in is a specific information thatwhen it leaves, it's the life you've
led is kind of like a librarybook. You've been putting together a book

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and then at the end, youknow it's like, oh okay, you
know I was affected by my chemistry. I was affected by depression, I
was affected by abuse. Did Iovercome this If I didn't overcome it.
Some people when they're afraid to goon because they've been told there's a hell
they're going to go to or something, or they're going to be held accountable
for something, and they don't gointo the process, and they hang around

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and they are angry or they're mad. Yeah, they can be if they
were asses in real life, theycan be asses, and you know this
life and there are I have seenexamples of things where very rarely people get
hurt, very rarely. But I'veseen people who've that have dined from being

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consumed basically because they were doing thingsthey shouldn't and they didn't have enough of
their aura wasn't a high enough frequencyto keep them from being infected by older,
darker energy, and it just causescancer or leukemia. And a lot

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of people from the sixties and seventiesthat I knew that were considered themselves pretty
well magicians that you know, we'redoing eggs trying to control people doing their
thing, you know, because whenI came up, there was the witch
movement, the Wickham movement the andthen you had the dark magicians, the
chaos magicians starting to kind of comeup, and a few Saintists and a

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few of this because it was allfrom the sixties, you know, it
was all like, well, let'slook at all of it, and all
the magicians that can consider them asself physicians that chose a darker edge.
The thing people don't understand is thedarker stuff. It takes a lot to

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sustain negativity, you know, happinessof your happiness, it just kind of
flows out. If you're sustaining anger, it takes a lot, and that
will cause cancer and people sometimes juststress. And so magic is the same
thing. If you go to darkerenergies and they all think they're all going

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to control this older energy that comesfrom the deeper layers of energy that have
already kind of decomposing, and thinkthey're going to control something and they think
that will give them control in life. And each one I knew that was
like that, that was doing andstriking at people and thinking it would be

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good way to get vengeance and allthis stuff. They all died of leukemia
in cancer because it just ate theirsystem. And so you have to be
but it's it's an energy, it'sa frequency. So you have to be
very careful. And there are somany people out there who go take a
forty dollars certificate and so I'm ademonologist. You know, you can study

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those things. Do you really seewhat's out there? Not just what you
think as a demon or what camefrom the old belief systems, because everything
has validity if it's to add energy, but into it, because we have
the ability to bring things to lifejust by putting a little bit of our

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fluid, our consciousness in two things. But yeah, there's a lot out
there, and there was for awhile there was a big fad of being
a demonologist or trying to do toowhat is it to exercise people? And

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there are churches who make a livingout of that, and there are people
who get killed out of that becausethey'll kill the people. I know of
an incident of a couple of yearsago. I know two very bad ones
where one person died because these peoplejust grabbed her and let her go,

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and they made her throw up somuch she did and she had already had
a stint put in. She wenthome and died from the stress they put
her under. Front, and shehad gone on a ghost haunt and those
people said, oh there's something anew were and against her will, for
hours they were trying to Finally,when she went on, she died from

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the stress. So it's not foryou know, the novice, and you
don't become you don't become knowledgeable bynot looking. Or you have to look
and you have to experience, andyou have to read and study and talk

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that. You know that there arepeople who just they want that excitement,
so you know, and I knowpeople are pretty serious about it, but
then they panic when something happens,you know. So I'm like, well
you got your wish. Yeah,That's where that's where I draw the line
between ghost hunters and actual investigators,because I'm an actual investator. Something happens,

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I run toward it. But Ialso also go into a place with
respect, like you were talking aboutearlier. You know, these are once
people as well, and you goin without respect, you know, I
think you're gonna get You're gonna getback what you put out anyway. And
if you go in there respectfully andlooking for that crazy stuff, I think
you're gonna you're gonna have a goodexperience and actually communicate with with some of

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the people and and things like that, to where if you go with the
negative, like you said, they'regoing to get you. You're project some
energy is mute neutral and it sometimesit will project what you're putting on it,
and you're going to get back whateveryou know you're projecting. And you

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know it's all I think, it'sit's it's all you know, you learn
on your feet. Uh. Iused to love to go to ghost stunning
that it really is. Everyone wantedto have a show, so it became
the alter motive. And I waslike, they wanted me to come out

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because they wanted a show. Andyou know, I've been to so many
things where there were spirit. Tome, it's like fishing. You sit
there, and if you sit anddo the process and hold the frequency and
do the diligent work, you willget what they're looking for. That The

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problem is the first second something startsto move or be filmed, they go
and it's like sit, let itmanifest, and they can't do it,
and they will and they want tolisten to the sound of their own voice,

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and so you'll talking about it andit's like sit here, let it
open. Let's see what this is, and they just go bananas. They
just give do it. So tome, you know, it's just you
know, I like to do investigations. I like to do ghost sendings that

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you know. But you know,it's a weird. It's a catch twenty
two a lot. So at somepoint I want to do some more of
my own. But it's like it'swhen you go into a group that you
don't have control of the circumstances,it gets crazy. Yeah, I think

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that's one reason I've never been apart of an official group. I've called
it. I've kind of always donethings on my own and uh and with
the show here, I get invitedout with other people sometimes, which is
interesting because you get to see howthey investigate things. But yeah, I've
never been part official group because itseems like you're saying, you always have
that one person who wants to bethe leader because they want to be on

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TV or they want that narcissistic bullshitor whatever, and I just don't want
a part of that, Like Idon't I'm not an ego person, I'm
not a narcissist. Like I wantto go investigate and I don't want to
be labeled the tech guy or thiswho cares. We're all in this together.
We're on here to investigate. Youknow, I don't I don't need
to label, don't want to label, you know. I want to be

(35:57):
you know. I mean I wouldgo on and be that one, you
know, and it's not. ISee what I love is I love to
get evidence. I love to doit, a lot of love to experiment,
love to do it, film itbecause people need to see those things.
It's just a bit advance the intent. Then you know, it takes

(36:25):
on a whole different monster and andyou can talk to she does the people
I have my experiences with, andjust the egomania that goes on, and

(36:47):
I'm like, I think, Ithink I'll stay home and clip my toenails.
Uh, you know, I thinkI'll have a better time during this
because you know, you work yourand as me I go and I do
these things. I put one intowhat I do and then you do it.

(37:07):
You do it. And they're supposedto be touching this information and filing
and getting it, and then atthe end it's just them sing. They
write a camera on them talking aboutsomething and they they don't get the nuances
or the the things that they've justfilmed, and so if you're not in

(37:27):
control of it, you can't flushit out, you know, and say
look at this. You know whathappened when we did this? Look at
this. Because it's like for scientistsand everybody talks about dimensions, dimensional walls.
I've been in several places where Iknow I can see dimensional walls,

(37:49):
and I think if you can,you could measure what a dimensional hallway typically
is, you know, because itkind of like it cinches. It's a
function that's created out of the Earthbecause of the it's electro magnetic fields,
and you get the dimensional hallways whatI call or layers. And I'm like,

(38:16):
well, I see them quite often. You know, they're kind of
like a vibrating material. Let's dosome experiments and see how wide they are.
See if you can detect you knowhow people don't want to do that,
Yeah, because once you can provethe dimensional hallways which we are going

(38:37):
through all the time, we're wanderingthrough them all the day time. And
then we because we are a sphereof energy, we put out little ripples
and spheres of energy. So weare a dimensional sphere moving through dimensional hallways.

(39:00):
That and you know, mixing witheveryone else's dimensional hall their dimensional spheres,
and you know, you're kind oflike a cell cell phone frequency and
it's in there. You know,you can make a phone call from here

(39:22):
to there, like we're talking,and it exists that it's also mixed in
with trillions of other people's cell phonesignals. And but if you can be
checked where those hallways are and thematerial and want to expect between the first

(39:44):
layer and the second layer, thenyou can get all sorts of results that
you know, they they want theboot, they want to scare, and
the minute that they start to getto scared, they start screaming, holler
and running and inf Yeah, andI'm saying, I'm just like to sit
down. Shat happen? Yeah,yeah, you know, it's just do

(40:08):
it. But you know so thatI guess that makes me a home monitor.
Uh you know, but I thinkthat's being an old old sage.
You know, I'm just kind oflike well crunch engine. And but but
Sin and I have been on onetime I went to an investigation where uh,

(40:35):
and you'll have to get to showyou the picture. There was it
was a funeral home that had beenand then it was a Halloween attraction,
and there was an old nineteen thirtiesor forties witch board there, and there
was a scientist ish kind of personthere and they asked me about that.

(40:57):
I didn't know it was in ahalf so I told them what so they
went, well, well I'll showyou, and they went out and got
it and hit it somewhere else andsaid where is it now? Because I
was using one of my own devices, and I told them where it was,
you know, and she took apicture of it, and you can
see the spirit cord coming out ofthe board. And see, we've gotten

(41:20):
several very good experiences, but thepeople who were there she got that,
they didn't get that. And theywere sitting there and they were busy trying
to figure out how to trip meup instead of trying to get information.
And because the spirit cord when wewent, when they brought it in,

(41:40):
you know, she just took apicture of it, and there's the exon
cork coming out of it, boom, and the stuff that they were trying
to do and do. There wasn'tanything for them to have because they were
too busy trying to trip me up. And I'm like, well, why
are you doing that, you knowwhy, I thought we were here to

(42:02):
investigate that she got a fantastic photo, and I was like, and that's
what we should be doing. Youknow. It was simple and but you
know, so you you know,it's I'm not trying to grouse or something.
It's just that I'm just trying toexplain. It's just that it can

(42:23):
be the most wonderful, exhilarating,fascinating exploration, and in it also,
depending upon the company, it canbe frustrating, degrading, nasty. Yeah,

(42:44):
so you know, I've been onall of them. Yeah, I've
been fortunate to have some really goodpeople around me who were respectable and we
share a lot of the same thoughtson the paranormal as far as being respect
full and going in, and wehave different ways of investigating, but we're
all very serious about it but havefun with it at the same time.

(43:07):
And I love the fishing analogy becauseI use that a lot when we host
public investigations. That's the first thingthat I tell anybody who bought a ticket
is that we may sit here forthe next five or six hours and not
get anything. You know, they'renot circuit performers and they're not you know,
on demand. It's going to bewhat they're going to do, whatever

(43:29):
they want to do, when theywant to do it. And if you
come with the right intention and theright mindset, then you're you're able to
get more than you do otherwise.And we usually get you know, interaction
with that, and and with usuallyget pretty good EVPs and things out of
it because you come in treating themlike humans and like they should be treated

(43:52):
with respect, and also talking about, you know, things that they're interested
in, you know, asking abouttheir lives and their kids and you know,
were you married, you know,and all these things. Yeah,
instead of just you know, canyou scratch me? Or you know,
can you move something? You know? Or something like that. Yeah,
I like it up. Yeah,you're just pouring the shit out of them

(44:14):
at that point. Yeah. Welland yes, Oh Now the thing that
I also like to do now forpeople to go on these investigations I've been
vetted or came up with my own, they'll splitter, which what happens is
we go in, find the energyspot, everyone gets comfortable, I split

(44:38):
the vail with help from everybody,using their frequencies and using their vocalizations,
and then film then you'll see youknow, it get you because also it's
going to haunting places. And say, so, can they need energy to

(44:58):
function? Yeah, but you needto give them energy outside of yourself so
that you don't wear yourself out.You know, you give them a little
bit of energy to use, andthen when you leave you take back that
energy pure fight and take it backso that you don't just leave the car
running. But if you're in ahunted place, you know, I may

(45:20):
not go in. And I said, and I'll say, now watch,
let's do this, do this experimentand see what happens. And then you
do it and it will just openup, you know, the veil,
and then you get to see what'sbeyond her. And when you're done putting
the frequency on it, it shutsagain. It just shuts it's self heals.

(45:45):
And then if you're done, thenyou've gotten your information and your experience.
And then you go and if there'sany energies that need help, what
someone who's in traumatized or whatever yousee if you can help them, or
if it's you know, whatever whateverthe experience is. But I like to

(46:07):
go in and you know I willfish, but I will fish with the
right rod, Yeah, and realI will fish that's right, bait.
But I will also go in andbe you know, now, if I
have to be brusque or be youknow, say, you know, don't
do that. You know, becausesometimes there are energy is that you don't

(46:28):
want in your field. Then youhave to know how to do that as
well. But you have to goin, prepare ready, and then you
can have a wonderful experience and getto see there is something that goes on
because when we dive where energy,that energy goes specific places, and you

(46:52):
know, I mean I know alot of people that think when you die
that your spirit just goes to sleepuntil Jesus comes back. And it's like
a lot exactly what I'm seeing.So, you know, because it's energy,
and you do nobody any good beingdead energy, there's no such thing

(47:13):
as you know, it's frequency,it's energy, and it's a recorded energy
that's spent twenty thirty, forty fiftyeighty years in a container. So when
it's released, it's it's got togo somewhere. Yeah, and there's a
natural process and there's a not sonatural process. So so it's you know

(47:38):
that there's a lot of it.I think it's good for us to understand
what's out there and to find itand be able to say, okay,
now, So what I like peopleto do is look at and go,
Okay, what caused that? Whatcan we replicate that? What? What
you know? What are the implicationsof what I just saw? You know?

(48:00):
Or And for some people it's justto see that there's something else.
And sometimes and then there's some peoplethey would rather never ever see a ghost,
never be around it. And thereare people. I have a dear,
dear, dear dear friend who lovesgoing goes since and I have been
knocked over and jumped over, Ihave been left laying in a darken place

(48:24):
when they were running. They knockedme over, grabbed somebody else and I
about killed me. You know,I'm the way out because they had the
fight or flight, you know kindof things, and I thought it was
hysterical. But I was like,never get in front of them when you're
having a ghost out. And theywere an emt and I thought they should

(48:45):
be pretty stuck. But when aminute, they kid boy, and if
you were in the way, youwere in troubled. And so that it
ship, you know, and itimport a lot of people. It's a
it's a innocent entertainment. And butthen you know a lot of people go

(49:13):
into places there you know, arerude to the spears and then just leave
that running and go okay, I'mdone and they walk off. So you
know, just just think about it, you know, before you do any
of it. You know, whyare you getting into it? Right?
And if you have the opportunity togo do it, you know, it's
it's a rare opportunity to go doit. I haven't got to go on

(49:36):
a ghost time forever, uh years, A couple of years. I think
I had a funeral home down hereI got to go look at They told
the funeral home dawn that the theembalming room is still standing, that they
use it and turned into a salon. But it's haunted by Martha Beck,
the serial killer. Had a verywhen I was there investigating her, which

(50:02):
she is a jerk in a spiritform. She was. She and her
boyfriend she came from here, wentto New York, met him. They
went on a killing spree, killingloarning hearts kind of club women and a

(50:22):
twenty women in a toddler. Theythink all of them and then she when
they were caught she they took herto sing sing, put her in the
electric chair, sent her back hereto be pickled at the funeral home she
used to work at down here,and then she was very secretly and so
she still has the funeral and sheis quite the special person. But they

(50:50):
were when I was doing it.The thing was channeling. I picked up
a channeling of someone else who wasthere, and all the spirit could say
was the grave of his cold andwet. So we came back and I
did that one separately, and Idid a film out it. And when
I channeled, I have a protectedsystem. I use an energy form you

(51:15):
put like a tough lung coating onyou and so that when you channel,
they come into a created space.But when it's finished, then you just
you know, you release that energy, eject that energy, and then you're
not you know, infected. Andit was very interesting, you know.

(51:38):
It was just this poor spirit thatwas there that had never got out of
their head about being dead, andthey had just eventually they just were in
their casket. And when I wasI could see through their eyes, they
could see their mind, and itwas I was in the when I looked
through their eyes. They were layingin this metal casket full of water and

(52:04):
mold and everything, and the lining, the white scentin thing they put in
it was all falling down on theirface and they were just like, it's
cold. And I thought, no, Sherlock, you know now and because
you could feel it, and Ithought, that's because plasma is usually cold
unless they are able to absorb theirmy heat. And I tried to release

(52:30):
the spirit, but he was soit was like someone was a head injury,
you know. It was like theyjust knew enough to know when they
were conscious. They weren't happy thatyou couldn't talk them into anything, like
you know, turning on their system, turning on their own third eye.
When people say turn you know,see the light, going to the light,

(52:53):
Well, what that is is themturning on their third eye and processing
through their aura into the next sphere. And so when you tell spirit,
you know, to go into thelight, you're not really telling them to
just walk into a light. You'rethey're turning on the light in their own

(53:14):
system so they can download and thenupload. And he couldn't be released.
So what happens to those kind ofspirits is eventually they just keep getting thicker
and thicker, and then they getreabsorbed and then eventually they get reabsorbed back

(53:37):
up to where they need to beor where they need to go. But
it's like oil, you know,the in the forest, when the trees
and the animals and the leaves decay, you it seeps into the earth and
makes a fluid, and that's wherethe darker things are, and sometimes that's

(53:57):
where this currents go. You know, it's just they just get caught up
in the degrading energy and eventually theyget absorbed and then they get reprocessed,
and then eventually the consciousness gets towhere it needs to be. Just a
longer app yeah you know, soI hope I'm not talking to then.

(54:20):
Oh no, you're You're completely fine. You're you're fine. Swizz gears a
little bit before we get done here. You have your own podcast that you
do on YouTube called Universal Truths yea, and it is Universal Truths. I
do it through Kat Hobson uh wB m dB and my brain is I'm

(54:45):
having a brain part and but wehad been just strictly a radio show and
now we're doing live shows. Sowhere I you know, you get to
see my scary Face every week andit's been a lot of fun. It's

(55:06):
been fun, and you can youknow, it's on YouTube Universal Truth Smartpholds
if you Wilgs and I do anyweird subjects or strength or you know,
I cover all sorts of metaphysical subjects. But then also I try to cover

(55:28):
like human issues, you know,things say, you know, we go
through in the modern world that affectour spirit or energy or our development.
So it can be anything you know, from death, near death, life,
aliens and anachi, you know,vampires, which is kind of you

(55:53):
know, whatever, anything anyone wantsto talk about or hear. But then
you know, haunted dolls. ButI always try to speak from my own
experience and I try to make itpersonal, so, you know, because
a lot of people, I thinkget way out of their stare. Sometimes

(56:14):
it's like, you know, I'lltalk about what's going on and if it
helps you, it helps you orinterest you, you know. So,
but it's a lot of fun.I feel like I've been very blessed,
very busy. Yeah. Yeah,and you also for a long time you've
had your own metaphysical shop called GypsyRoad Gypsy Moony Moon. I'm sorry and

(56:36):
that adds. Yeah, get thisspare that it's here in Milton. It's
a flea market at the Pea RidgeFlea Market on Highway nine and I'm in
Space twenty nine and I'm there Friday, Saturday, Sundays. And then people

(56:58):
want to reach me. They cankind of take me on Facebook. I'm
Mark Elliott. Folks to the liottIs E L L I O T G
if you lts. And I canmeet people at the store at anytime if
they want readings or need me togo do or you know, I do

(57:19):
house cleansings and I think I'm gettingready to do psychic parties, you know.
So uh, but it's it's beenfun. It's been a very a
nice little metaphysical gift store. Thefirst few months were hysterical because people would
come by and grab their children andrun like they thought I was going to

(57:40):
grab them and eat them like gingerbread. And I'm like, it was histerical,
and so now they've gotten onto that. I'm fairly like an old hippie,
you know, I just sit andif somebody wants a rating, I
got readings. If they want someincence, there's some insists, there's some

(58:00):
candle there's a shun catcher you know, whatever you you know, or an
anti you know. So I justhave fun so and I just you know,
I just try to be there forpeople if they need it. And

(58:21):
uh. And also there are peoplewho come by that are a metaphysics that
they're just glad to see someone kindof representing them, you know, because
it's a cute old sort and everything. But it's not like, you know,
it's not like the witch is gingerbread house lure you in. You

(58:42):
know you that it's that. Ialso don't go out describing people try to
drug a man. I'm like,if you want to come in here it
is, you know, and ifyou want to sit and talk, you
know, I have great conversations withpeople. And and it's also it's kind
of the way that it's built.It's kind of it's and the door is

(59:06):
open so the during when I'm open, so you know, you get to
experience the breezes and the rain andthe sun and it's beautiful. So it's
very healthy for me, you know. So yeah, so they yes,
that is Space twenty nine at theFleamn p Rich Flea Market. Yeah,

(59:30):
and you've got quite a few booksup on Amazon and Kindle. I will
I'll put least all those in theshow notes. And like you said,
you're working on a cookbook as well. Yes, my mean old grandma,
good old cookbook. Now Sam willtell you how great. Well. See,
I started off because I loved itand I love to cook. And

(59:52):
my grandmother was a great cook.Terrible person, terrible, terrible person,
terrible but best Kirk governmant because shegrew up being the head cook. She
was ended up being a head cookon an open on a farm in Texas,

(01:00:15):
and she knew how to do allof the sudden cooking with lard and
you know, great chicken and cakesand whatever. And so I did the
recipes. We did all the nicelittle recipes, and I went, well,
the stuff they would eat was thatthey would eat off the farm.
You didn't go in their house andsay, what's in that pot? Yeah,
unless you really wanted to know,because it could be big brains and

(01:00:37):
eggs, it could be intestines,it could be anything. So the first
part of the book is the prettysister recipes. In the back part are
you know, And it has awarning. It says, if you're a
delicate don't read these and they arethe recipes of the crap they would eat.

(01:00:58):
But back then, you know,you didn't wasted eat. But I
also have a section on funeral food, funeral cakes that they used to make
frozen Charlotte Stuffy. There was avery famous poem in eighteen hundreds, and
it became they made dolls offside werewoman frosted on a buggy rock because she

(01:01:22):
was being vain and when we're ajacket, and so they made dolls,
they made frozen desserts. So they'remade off of a dead person poem.
So I have the history of funeralfoods and things they would eat, you
know, when the senator kind ofstuff, and I actually have I've always

(01:01:46):
heard of senators, but I actuallyhad never heard of the speech the senator
would give when he finished eating thesin before he left the home and or
left the corpse, you know,after eating off of it. And and
I found the speech. So Ihave all that stuff in there. So

(01:02:07):
it's going to be a weird picklic. But there are stuff in there that
I mean, we cook stuff allthe time out of my own wespes.
I mean there's really good stuff.And so there's really converciities and really nasty
ones. Yeah. So, butit's the stuff that people really ate.

(01:02:28):
So I think we're having a goodtime, but she'll I'll throw all these
recipes that are and she'll go,I was going along. It was about
candy and it was great and it'slike you know, about deer hagus and
she goes, you know, andit's history that we scream all the time
because we'll put in you know,you know, you you bake, you

(01:02:50):
know, you bake. I sitand then you throw up, you know.
So on my show, I'll probablytie people to chairs to make them
eat this stuff because there's some cramp. I ain't trying, there is no
way, but I will make somebodyelse do that. Uh So. But
I have a lot of books withsin and with Chill Gray and and uh

(01:03:12):
and in my own series Switch likeChenega Chills. I'm about to do one
for Pencecola. Uh So we justhave fun. Yeah, yeah, I'm
gonna I did see one of yourbooks that I didn't know that you had
done about the Corpsewood murders. Ohyeah, I'm going to read you that
one. But yeah, that's athat's a funky Yeah, it's a fascinating

(01:03:37):
story and thank you. But ifI hate that bag, that is true.
So I mean it's not just aboutthe corpse where people, it's about
the freak sign m and it's justawful part of life that I learned so
much out of it that I'm gladthat you enjoy it. But I'm going
to go back and rechool that onebecause now I'm really you know, I

(01:04:02):
found a lot more information about thecorpse woods thing that you know. I
think it's interesting and and kind ofgo back. It was earlier on when
I was starting to do this,and sometimes you look back and you go,
oh, I would do that alittle differently. So I think I
will do it a little differently.But that one, yeah, I hate
that. But people want to peoplego into the don't know, but it

(01:04:28):
was it was to get it offmy plate. Yeah, and uh but
experience it's it did and it did, you know, but it's not when
I want to sit down and comethrough my film, you know, because
there were some really dark people there. Yeah. Yeah. A few years
ago I had Amy Patoola on theshow and she does the Chattanooga and she

(01:04:54):
wrote, Yeah, she wrote abook about the course would Murders and me
and her talk about it way backthen, and it's just I like it
when the panorm won True crime kindof crossover because I'm interested in both,
especially the psychology of both. Andso yeah, but has it checked on
out? Yeah, but it's yeah, I know Ami Petula, she actually

(01:05:16):
it's just some of my I startedout her tour. We've been friends for
a long time. Yea. Andbefore I left, I was doing a
little goosehort downtown. So but it'syeah, she's got a very good book.
Yeah yeah, And of course whatis a very interesting place. It's
just kind of dangerous. You know. People want to go up there,

(01:05:39):
and I'm like, you know,it's kind of they find people dead up
for a lot, you know.Yeah, so it's like no, no,
no, it's not the the spooksyou have to be careful of.
It's the crazy yeah people. Allright, Mark, Well, thank you

(01:06:00):
so much for coming on day.Oh, thank you for having me.
I hope I didn't ever talk toyour ear. No, you're just fine.
And I'll put I'll put links inthe show to all of your your
books and stuff, and we'll belooking forward to your crazy cookbook coming out.
Oh, thank you. Well,we're we're pretty well close to the
other, that one because you know, but we went through a period where

(01:06:25):
everywhere there was like a string oflike forty recipes that were just so gross
and we were just I have togo eat something sweet or do something and
get out of there, you know. So it's but when you talk to
Sam, talk to show tim thesethings. Yeah, and in her own
way where it's history. So I'vetaken her down the rabbit hole. But

(01:06:51):
thank you so much, Eric forhaving me on. That was very sweet
of you. It was my pleasure. And we'll talk again here pretty soon.
Yeah, for sure. And ifyou and I ever want to come
down this way, you know,I'll find something for by the look at
Yeah, I'd love to do aninvestigation with you. Oh yeah, well,

(01:07:12):
I'll show you how we do it. We cracked the egg. Yeah,
I'll show you how we do it. Crack the egg. Keep that
camera going, and you know,so we're on the same page, so
you know, you know, sitand listen and watch. Yeah, and
I'm going to show you we canfind some things. I think it'd be
fun. Yeah, it'd be alot of fun. All right, everybody,
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