July 30, 2025 • 53 mins
What if surrendering control is the key to personal power?
This episode is with Babs, also known as AmiLynne Carroll, a certified spiritual development, religious trauma, and life coach who found empowerment through her Stage 4 cancer diagnosis and now guides others into healing and awakening.
AmiLynne, certified Holistic Practitioner & Holistic Life Coach, is a devoted and trusted Travel Partner supporting seekers, world-wide, who wish to transcend the roller coaster of the human experience to rediscover the divine ebb and flow of Life. A practiced student of the human and the divine, AmiLynne unites the practical with the incorporeal, guiding clients as they connect with who they’ve always been, but simply forgotten along the way. An author, speaker and steadfast seeker herself, AmiLynne is dedicated to the healing, liberation and awakening of all that lives. AmiLynne Carroll, Truth – freshly discovered in the Now of Being.
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Welcome back to the unstuck movement.
True testimonies, A breakthrough.
We don't have many repeat guestshere on the show, but when I
have somebody on that I I found so much value in and we didn't
even have enough time to to get deep into subject matter.
I love having them back on. And Amy Lynn Babs, Carol, really
glad to have you back on here. I really, really enjoyed our
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first conversation. I'm so excited to to continue
where we left off last time. Great to be here and great to
continue that conversation. I agree completely.
So if we go back in time, we kind of left on maybe a little
bit of a cliffhanger. Some of the closing remarks
revolved around, you know, nevergoing to be able to fully
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understand something until you really experience it.
And some of the things we were talking about were my story not
being my identity, that everything is a blessing, which
is something that I really I believe in and I know you do
too. How do we actually live these
things out daily when we talk about, OK, the story of my life,
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not my identity, that's not who I actually AM.
And that I, if I could look at everything as a blessing, how
would that change my life daily?How does that, what does that
look like for yourself and how you how can you help people
guide them through those principles?
Well, first, I love that we are jumping straight in because no
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better place to start than wherewe're at, especially given the
last conversation we did have and this idea of not really
truly understanding. You know, there's a difference
between intelligence and wisdom,and intelligence we get from a
book, we get it from lectures that we listen to, maybe sermons
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that we listen to, maybe it's conversations that we're having
with people that intelligence isan important component to our
experience. But wisdom doesn't show up until
we experience the things we're talking about.
So, for example, if we could say, if someone says to us, for
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example, Rob, that you are a phenomenal person,
intellectually I can know that to be true.
But then when I have a conversation with you, the
experience of you being phenomenal becomes very
personal. And so that experience now
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brings wisdom because it's not something that I believe to be
true. It's something I have
experienced. And so no matter what anybody
else says to me about you, they could not sway me from my
experience of you versus the opinion that I may have borrowed
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from another before having that experience.
And when we talk about this ideaof everything being a blessing,
even being called out on, hey, Amy Lynn, somebody told me you
were really cool and I'm having a conversation with you and I
think you're not as cool as theythink you are.
I mean. What kind of person would say
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something like that? But yes.
That would be a courageous and bold person, definitely.
But I mean, it's, it's the for me in my world.
I want people to say those things when they don't feel like
they're in alignment with maybe something that they've heard
about me because it gives us theopportunity to truly connect as
opposed to them wondering in their mind what they've been
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told and how that's not in alignment with what they're
experiencing. It also gives me the opportunity
if those things come out, to acknowledge maybe I'm having a
bad day and I'm not showing up my best self in this moment.
So our experience is so important.
And even take that moment where someone would call you on the
carpet about how you're acting or something that you've said or
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something that they expected from you and you're not living
up to that, that outward curriculum.
Where's the lesson in that? Well, we know where the lesson
is. The lesson is we we get to have
a different exchange. We get to have a conversation
and I either get to recognize and acknowledge that I'm not
living up to what I had promisedor, and probably in the same
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space, they get to recognize that maybe their expectations
were too high and we get to havea real exchange.
That's the lesson. But the blessing is, is that we
get to connect. We get to be real, we get to be
authentic, and in that space, ifwe can operate from a place of
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alignment, then it matters not if we have actually disappointed
another because we've acknowledged that maybe that
there is disappointment present.This disappointment being
present doesn't mean someone didsomething wrong.
It just means we get to work together to remove that
disappointment. And that's the blessing in this
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because look, we look for all ofthese external lessons and
things are hard and we want to avoid the hard things.
But when we stand firm, and by standing firm, I don't mean like
a bouncer. I just mean stand standing solid
in a place where we might feel uncomfortable for being called
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out or being misunderstood or maybe not being trusted, if we
can stand in that space just long enough for us to actually
have an honest conversation about what's going on.
The lessons are multifold, as are the blessings, because now
we have a true relationship withanother, as opposed to an
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acquaintanceship which serves a purpose and has an agenda and
both people feel uncomfortable with.
Very well said and the only way to really, I shouldn't say the
only way, but maybe the best waythat I can think of to give
myself an opportunity to look for blessings, especially when
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something is happening. It's it.
It might be easier to look back and see them.
Definitely is always easier to look back and be like, oh, I
didn't see that blessing happening there in the moment.
But allowing yourself and the situation to have space to see
what's really going on here, right?
That pause that you put in if, if you're attuned correctly,
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it's like, OK, maybe I, I feel triggered right now.
Something emotional is going on.I didn't expect this to happen
because you can get swept away and all that so quickly and then
the blessings go out the window 'cause now you might be in fight
or flight, you might just be in reacting, you feel like you've
been cornered or whatever. There could be a million
different situations where it's not optimal the way you feel.
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But if you give yourself space in that moment, you could have,
I've been talking and, and speaking a lot about crucial
conversations, right? You can have crucial
conversations with yourself or with other people that can
really change dynamics, but thatspace has to be there for that.
So I wanna, before we go into mynext question, which is
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involving space, I wanna welcomeeverybody to the platform.
The unstuck movement was createdbecause I've been stuck.
Amy Lynn, I know you've been stuck.
And we all get stuck at different places in our lives.
And breakthrough is so essential.
We need to have breakthroughs. We can go to the next level, as
it says in the Bible, going fromglory to glory.
I wanna keep going and keep continuing and growing, and so I
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created this platform as examples, real life examples.
That breakthrough is possible for you.
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robzwentz.com. As I said to Amy Lynn Babs
Carol, she's been on the episodeonce before and I'm so excited,
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so happy to have her back. She's a certified holistic life
coach and spiritual development guide who helps people transcend
trauma and reconnect with their divine nature.
After a stage 4 cancer diagnosis, which we talked about
in the first episode, it transformed her life.
She now empowers others through coaching courses and authentic
presence. So we talk about the the
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technique for cultivating that pause.
And we did get into this in the first episode talking about
unconscious repetition, how we will repeat the same things over
and over again. So in a stage of immediate
challenge or frustration, cultivating that pause, how can
we practice conscious repetitionto shift from habitual reactions
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to being intentional in our responses?
Great question. And I think so many of us have
that question, even if we can't put words to it.
It's kind of like, I know that how I'm showing up isn't the way
I want to show up, but how do I get where I want to be?
But I'm not even sure where it is I want to be.
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And for me, one of the the analogies that works really well
in this space is, is the trafficlight.
So many of us here in the UnitedStates, we call it a stoplight
because that's the emphasis, that's the priority, that's the
focus we put on it, is that it tells us when to stop.
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But its proper name is a trafficlight.
And a traffic light requires awareness, and so does the
transition from habitual behavior to conscious
conversation. And so if we think about that
traffic light, what does it afford us?
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You know, we know that the red light is stopped.
We know that the green light is go.
But I would suggest that the most important light on that
traffic signal is the yellow light.
I feel like I and that yellow light, the yellow.
What happens when you're at an intersection, right yellow light
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unless you're a 16 year old, youknow who just got their driver's
license, yellow light means justput pedal to the metal and get
through that intersection. But for the.
Rest I must, I must still be a 16 year old because when I see
that yellow light, I'm like, oh,I got, I already have two
seconds here to floor it. You know, depending on what mood
I'm in, depending on what mood I'm in that day, that yellow
light either means speed up or slow down.
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Exactly. Exactly.
So I'm going to give you a new way to think about that yellow
light, not just at a traffic intersection, but at an
intersection where something hashappened.
Good, bad or indifferent doesn'tmatter.
And now we have to decide how we're going to show up.
So that yellow light is an indication for a three-step
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process. And it can happen simultaneous,
simultaneously, but it takes a moment of pause and it takes
awareness. We have to know that there's a
yellow light happening either onthe traffic signal or in a
conversation. And that yellow light invites us
to pause and take a deep breath.The second step is to assess
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what's going on here. If we're in an intersection, is
there cars coming? Are they coming quickly?
Are they already stopped? What can I make it through
before it turns red? Do I need to make it through
before it turns red because I'm in a hurry?
Like there's tons of things to assess.
If we're in a conversation, there are just as many things to
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assess, and what we're assessingis going to allow us to then
make a decision. So we're going to pause, we're
going to assess, and then we aregoing to make a decision.
And that decision in our lives, in our daily lives, is who do I
want to be in the next moment? Do I want to be the person that
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in 15 minutes is going to apologize again for how I'm
showing up? Or do I want to be the person
who gives space to have conversation and connection with
this person in a new way? Because in that space, what
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happens is, is we are actually modeling for the other person
good communication, connected relationship.
Look, we're not taught how to bein relationships when we grow
up, not here in Western civilization.
We're taught how to get what we want, when we want, and for the
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reasons that we want it. We are a good boy or a good girl
because someone else needed us to act a certain way in a
certain situation. And so we began to associate
being good or bad with someone else's agenda of good or bad.
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And now what we get to do, I don't have to, But what we get
to do is we get to decide how we're going to show up in that
next moment and the reason that we're going to show up that way.
Sometimes it takes tough love when we're in the middle of a
hard conversation. Sometimes it takes a softer
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approach, sometimes it takes saying, look, we have had this
conversation so many times and every time it ends in us in
conflict. I don't want to.
I don't want to be in conflict with you.
You're my friend, you're my Co worker, you're my husband,
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you're my wife. I don't want to be in conflict
with you. Can we try to have this
conversation a little differently today?
And the first thing that does isit puts skids on the egos.
Not just theirs, but mine too. I know in the past I haven't
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showed up very well in these situations and in these
conversations, but I know I wantto be better at that.
So before I say anything stupid,before I say the same things
over and over that I've said before, I'm going to pause, I'm
going to assess, and then I'm going to decide who do I want to
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be and how do I want to show up in the next moment.
Yeah. And it takes practice and it
takes awareness. It really does take practice.
I'm not being very receptive. What do you mean you want to
talk differently than we've talked in the past?
You know, I think of my father when he was alive.
If I'd have tried to have this conversation with him that way,
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he'd be like, I do not know whattrip you are on, but you need to
come back to Earth. Like that is not how this is
going to happen. So we get to practice that so
that those individuals who need us to communicate with them
differently in order for us to get what we need too.
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Because what we need in that moment is not more conflict.
What we need in that moment is to be able to show up aligned
with our own spiritual and personal integrity and not
repeat a pattern that we alreadyknow is not healthy for ourself
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or the other person. Yeah, yeah.
And when you decide to bring awareness to what's going on and
you decide to address what's going on, some people are going
to be put off by that. They're going to be like, wow,
this is. And it's really interesting in
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life. One of the things I find the
most interesting is when you start showing up different for
people who are used to how you are, it kind of like throws them
for a loop. And I've had it happen to me and
I know that I've done it to people also where I'm like, wait
a minute, who, who am I now? Who?
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You want to do this differently?It'll shine a light on you of
like, oh, wow, OK, that's right.We've been doing this wrong for
years. It needs to be done differently.
And so it can kind of, it can kind of jar you, it can kind of
scare people in the sense of like how I'm trying to think of
the best way to say this. Like when you start to change,
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the people around you knowingly or unknowingly pick up on the
change and it can expose to themhow little they're changing,
which can be something they don't like.
They don't like to see that. They don't want to see that
because that's like your shadow self, if you'd want to call it
that. Like, oh wow, there's like parts
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of me that I don't even, I'm noteven aware of.
And this situation just made me aware that there's some things
about myself that I could change.
And it looks like the person in front of me is, is changing.
And that is intimidating or kindof confrontational to them.
And it can bring people closer to you or drive people further
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away from you. But either way, those
conversations need to happen. Did that make sense?
Made perfect sense. And a couple of things that I, I
want to add to what you were saying there though is, is that
yes, like we teach people how totreat us.
Yeah. And so when we begin to show up
differently and are modeling a different way of showing up
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that's uncomfortable for people,yes, and not because it's good
or bad. And that's the other thing I
want to caution all of us, myself included, not the rabbit
hole not to go down is that whatwe've been doing is wrong.
What we have been doing the way we've been doing it has served a
purpose. It's got us where we are.
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So let's just call it different.Let's don't call it bad or
wrong. Because when we use words like
right or wrong, then people's egos get involved.
And look, when we begin to show up differently in people's
worlds, it's going to trigger not just our ego, but some of
theirs too. So let's not give it additional
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fodder for conversation by usingwords like right or wrong.
Let's just say, man, I just it, it hasn't felt good.
Or you don't even have to do allof the explaining.
You just simply say you are showing up differently and the
way you're speaking is differently.
You are choosing the words that are going to come out of your
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mouth next. As opposed to, for example, I
have a client who is a grandmother and she the the
grandchildren are her stepsons children.
And the stepson was, you know, of full majority age when she
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married his father. And when his father passed away,
there was this seeming disconnect and through walking
through just this very conversation about pause.
Because she's calling, and there's never time for her to be
able to see the grandkids. It's always that what you and I
were talking about earlier. Yeah, we're definitely going to
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have to do that. We're going to have to set some
time aside for that. But it never happened.
And so she was feeling a certainway.
She was feeling abandoned. She was feeling neglected.
She was feeling pushed away. And in reality, what was
happening was is that there wereall of these other unresolved
issues. So she's showing up on the phone
and saying, hey, I want to see my grandkids.
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And he said, yeah, we're going to have to work on, well, look,
you, if you if you always do what you've always done, you'll
always get what you've always got.
It's the very definition of insanity.
And so we began to think about this.
Pause, assess what's going on. He clearly has a full schedule.
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He's also lost his dad recently.There's a whole lot going on
there that we might not be awareof.
So if I show up and say, hey, can I FaceTime with, are the
kids available? Can I FaceTime with them and
then make that FaceTime about the kids and not about me
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getting what I need as a grandma?
I'm feeling abandoned and pushedaway and neglected, but love on
those kids in the way that is available in this moment.
And just that simple shift afterfour or five months, now she
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sees the grandkids every other weekend.
There's the key. The key to that was for four to
five months, right? It's not like a one time I'm
going to show up and then the rest, the rest of the time
forget about it 'cause we can often do that too, right?
Do it once. That's a consistently well, it
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was, but honestly, if you do it once, you're going to notice
things are different. You're going to notice that Oh,
that was that was a little bit different.
It might not have been like gamechanging, but it was like, oh, I
felt different after that. The way I showed up.
My best example for that is withmy, my stepmom, you know, we, it
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was always kind of maybe a rockyrelationship.
And I used to show up like it was going to be a rocky
relationship. That's how I showed up, right?
Because I was just kind of used to it.
So it was a lot of avoiding, youknow, just just the best word to
use is avoiding. How can I get out of these
conversations as fast as possible and go talk to my dad?
And so a couple of years ago, I,I decided to show up differently
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in the sense of like, when I came in, I gave her a big hug, I
helped her clean up dinner and just like did things that I
normally wouldn't do, gave her attention.
And that was like a game changerof like things were different.
Since then. Now, now since then, there's
been, you know, times when I haven't done it and times when I
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do do it. And I've noticed when I haven't
done it or I don't prepare myself.
And I think that's one of the biggest parts, at least for me,
is you're going into a situation, you've got to set
your intentions. And a lot of, you know, when
you're in a hurry, it's hard to set your intentions.
So you have to like, and it onlytakes, you know, maybe a minute
just to like, here's who I wannabe going into this and here's
how I'm gonna act. Easier said than done, 'cause
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you I could, I forget. I mean, honestly, I've done it
where I'm like, wow, that was incredible.
That situation turned out differently than the other
thousand times that I did it. But then I'll forget again and
not do it right. So, but it's really so important
to have put the pause and have the intention of like, here's
how I wanna be. And when you show up
differently, other people act differently.
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Like you said, it's like we havefull control over how we show
up. We have control over that, but
we've got to be aware of it and do it the right way.
So real quick. Voices, go ahead.
I was just going to say conscious choices, as you said,
being aware and taking that timeto pause, looking at that
traffic light before I get out of the car and walk into so and
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so's house or my house or whatever the case may be.
Who am I going to be in this moment?
And am I going to be a good reflection of love and God, or
am I going to be one that needs some help?
Right. And I wrote that down.
I'm always looking, I'm always looking for themes in the show,
and that's such a great theme there.
Pause, assess, and then make a decision.
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I'm going to call it Pam. That's the Pam movement.
Pam pause, assess, make a decision.
Or I call it actually it's, it's, it's actually for us.
We call it the pad. It's the, it's the, it's the
foundation. Because you are, you pause,
assess and decide. And to decide is one of those
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things that you get to hold yourself accountable for.
Because if we're deciding, we'realso, before we make that
decision, we're assessing, we'regetting the information we need.
And look, we don't need to know what's going on on the inside of
that house before we walk in in order to decide who we want to
be when we walk through that door.
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Yeah, the the situation does notdetermine how you get, how you
decide to show up, because it could be total chaos.
It could be total peace. Doesn't matter.
You can walk in there how you want to walk in there.
You can be the peace in a chaotic moment.
Yeah. That is actually completely
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unexpected by those on the otherside of the door.
Yeah, yeah, really very true, very well said.
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So Babs, this is such an important conversation and I
think anybody watching or listening, you know, I have many
different kinds of conversationson this show.
And this, this sort of stuff applies to everything in our
life, a business and personal. And I like to make that
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distinction because we can thinklike, oh, this stuff, this is
like woo woo talk. I don't need this for my
business or whatever. And like, no, it applies to
everything. And it's, it's, it's might be
maybe the most important things to talk about in my personal
opinion. So how can we assess or measure
our current skill level in love?What, what?
How can we see where we're at? I'll answer that question in
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just a second, but I want to jump back to this business is
personal and and just a quick thought that will take it one
step further for those that are listening that might be like
Rob, I don't know what you're talking about here.
Business is personal because here's the thing, if we are
aligned in our integrity and whowe are and what our purpose and
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calling is, if we are a different person in our business
life than we are in our personallife, then we are very likely
disingenuine in one, but probably both areas of our life.
And so that that actually bringsup extra conflict.
So this idea of who we are and why we're here and how we
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approach conversations, that whole traffic light approach,
pause, assess, decide, you know,decide.
I have used it so many times in business that it kept me from
making bad decisions or decisions that I would have to
make differently again because Imade a choice without having all
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of the information. So absolutely love that the
importance and the accountability that what we're
talking about here isn't segregated to our personal life
or our business life. It's our character and it's who
we are and it's who we want to be for the people around us.
Exactly, Yeah, it's it's all baked into your integrity as a
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human and and congruency. You want to be congruent.
It's one of the things I've always I've struggled with in
business is how do I be more of myself in my business.
I don't want to have two separate me's.
I don't, I don't like that doesn't feel right.
And for whatever reason, I've always felt like, well, there
needs to be a business me and a personal me and they really
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shouldn't mix because a personalme is kind of goofy.
I don't take many things that seriously.
Not that I don't get things doneand I'm not, you know, I, I care
and love people and do the rightthings as much as I, I try to
always do the right thing. But I like to have fun.
And in business, I'll think like, I can't really have fun.
I got to be a bit more serious. I can't like let people see this
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side of me because if they do, they won't take me seriously.
Whatever, you know? And that is just not healthy #1
and it's not being authentic #2 and it's going to hurt my
business because people want thereal me, you know, whether they
know it, everybody wants the real you, whether they know it
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or not. And the most authentic, loving
version of yourself. Anyways, it's just something
really, it's, it's for me, it's something I really had to work
on and focus on that I've noticed to be an issue.
And I just wanted to make that point because I think we can
forget sometimes that all of this works together.
Well, and it, and it actually isa great segue then into this,
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how do I figure out how do I assess where I'm at on this
skill level of life, love, whatever the word is that we're
looking for. And for me, one of the things
that I found Rob, and I bet if you really think about this,
you've recognized this too, is that where we trip ourselves up
in that assessment process is that we are assessing against
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the wrong foundations. We assess against.
We we are comparing rather than assessing.
Oh well, this business owner hasthis or this parent does this or
this individual. They are both parents and
business owners and they've got everything like wrapped up in
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this beautiful bow. But if we really knew what was
going on in their experience, wewould know that, just not we
would know that. Not unlike ourselves, we don't
put the ugly stuff out front. It may occasionally seep in, but
we're trying to be our best selfin our business, in our personal
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life, whatever the case may be. So when we get really honest
about assessing where we're at that that middle step, pause,
assess and decide is it's not assessing against what is around
us. It's assessing against what we
know God is calling us to be, who God is calling us to be, and
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how God is calling us to be thatbeing.
And the reality of it is, is that is different in almost
every situation that we walk into because relationships are
different. And that's why it's important
that the practice begins before every conversation.
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And that can include even the hello, you know, you're waving
at somebody, you're driving by in a car and you're waving, you
get in the car and it's like, who am I going to be on this
drive? Because it's a reminder.
It's just like when we were kidsand we were learning our
audition tables and they made the last Part 1 + 2.
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Two plus 2 is 4/4 plus 4 is. I'm going to get that right.
Do I need to send you some flashcards?
You might need to, but look, I actually used to use post it
notes, pause, assess, decide. I'd have them on the corner of
my my computer screen or I'd putthem on the inside windshield of
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my car when they actually let medrive.
So, but it's the reminder who doI make going to be and what
approach am I going to take to getting there?
And it's not assessing against the world.
It's assessing against what I know God is calling me to be,
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which takes us back to the firststep in pausing.
Sometimes the pause is prayer. Sometimes the pause is
devotional. Sometimes the pause is
listening. Because if we don't have a true
relationship with God. And look, true doesn't mean
perfect. It means honest.
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It means authentic. It means committed and
consistent. And here's another way to bring
God into my experience more and more throughout the day because
let's just say on average, we have 10 conversations a day.
If I pause 10 times, assess and decide who I'm going to be at
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each of those pauses, I'm actually reinstating God in my
experience. I'm reminding myself who I'm
going to be and how I'm going todo that.
The why is because I'm a beloveddaughter of God.
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Yeah, and it's. Not about others, it's about
ourselves and who we want to be.100% and it's going to reorient
your attitude right when you check in.
That's why you know, pray without ceasing.
I didn't used to understand that.
I'm like, how would you just howwould you do that all day long?
But it's, it's constantly bringing yourself back to what's
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what you want to focus on. It's constantly bringing
yourself back to a mentality, A mindset, a way of thinking, a
way of approaching situations. And that makes a lot of sense.
And if you think about your day and how often we go unconscious
or in routine throughout a day, it's constant.
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It's so mind blowing to me. What like we have like over
80,000 thoughts a day. You know 9095% of those thoughts
are the same thoughts over and over and over again, right?
So that without that pause and anew intention, you're just going
to live out the old patterns Andyou don't mean to live them out.
You just do. Because that's this repetition.
It's, it's efficient, right? It's efficient for our brain to
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follow a pattern, our mind to follow a pattern because that's
easy. It doesn't burn as much energy,
doesn't take as much work. And so it's not, I don't look at
it like you're not a terrible person because you keep doing
the same thing over and over again.
You're just, you're running off of, you're running off of
momentum, you're running off of patterns and neural pathways.
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And just understanding that it'slike getting yourself the grace
of like, yeah, it's OK, you screwed this up a million times,
but you can do it differently now.
And if you screwed up again, it's it's OK, give yourself
grace, but next time do it rightand, and just just continuing to
do that forever differently. Do it differently.
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Do it differently. Do it differently.
It's not about right or wrong, because it right or wrong takes
us out of a grace space. That's a great point.
Yeah, that's OK. And I, I didn't, I didn't even
realize that I said that. Right.
Do it differently next time. Because see, when we talk about
things right or wrong, then it becomes about being punitive or
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progressive. Yeah, and that's honestly Grace.
Filled. That's guilt, right?
That's that's where guilt and shame come from is and it's the
power of the words that we use with ourselves.
And that's that's you just highlighted something for me.
It's like I don't even realize that I said that.
I didn't even realize I was saying right against wrong.
And that does create right, wrong, good, bad, you know, and
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that's where punishment comes from for yourself.
That's that's a really good point doing it.
Different then the assessment becomes comparison, which then
we have to do the work to come back into assessing who do I
want to be, who do I know I already AM and how am I going to
demonstrate that? Yeah.
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And just because I didn't do it great the last time doesn't mean
I can't do it better or differently this time.
But I have to be aware. It's the, it's the old adage In
business a lot we talk about goals and habits and forming
good habits. And I like to turn that
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conversation on its head and say, no, you don't want habits
because habits are unconscious activity.
And I want to be conscious for every activity that I show up
for. And the reason for that is, is
because in every activity I showup for, there's a lesson and a
blessing. And I want both of them.
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And if I'm showing up unconsciously, I'm likely going
to miss both of them. Think about how many times we've
driven home, we arrived in the in the driveway.
Matter of fact, we may even get in the front door and put our
keys in the in the key bowl and we're like, I don't remember an
iota of that drive since I got in the car.
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That's habit. That's unconscious activity.
And there's nothing bad to that.So again, we're not using bad or
good. But what if we had taken that
time on our drive home to process something in the day so
that we don't then vomit it on our family or to prepare our
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thought of oh, I'm going home and you know what?
I'm going to stop real quick andI'm going to pick up a chocolate
bar for my husband because he hasn't had a payday chocolate
bar and I just wanted to know I was thinking about him.
Those are those moments where weget to be who we know we are
called to be. But if we are operating from a
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place of unconsciousness, again,unconsciousness isn't bad.
It gets us where we're going, but how much more fulfilling?
We think we're looking for happiness.
Happiness is fleeting. Fulfilling requires us to be
present and aware and then to act upon those ideas when they
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come. That I pick up a payday candy
bar for my husband before I get home.
Just because. And acting on it because the
thought doesn't really express awhole lot.
But if I'm over here regurgitating unconsciously all
of these things that I'm not doing differently anyhow, then
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for me that's almost ingratitudein advance to my next prayer
where I ask God to take the stress.
God didn't give us the stress. The stress is self created
trying to do a job that is not ours to do from a place we
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weren't meant to do it. Be conscious about those
thoughts that are running through our head.
I mean gosh you said 8090 thousand thoughts a day.
Holy fish here's Batman. If we could just take a deep
breath and reduce that by 25% from a place of awareness, think
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about how different our day-to-day life would be if 10
times a day we were showing up alittle more aware and making a
decision about our next steps versus the monotony of the dream
of just getting through the day.Please, God, just let me get
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through this day. Nah Who do I get to be in this
moment? God?
And who do I get to be in this moment?
Not just for you, but for me andfor the people that I love and
care about because that may be the gospel that they need in
that moment. But if I'm caught in my stuff,
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they're not going to get that either.
Yeah, and who are you? If you're, you know, maybe
you're in prayer throughout the day.
Maybe you're keeping your minds your, your thoughts on God.
You're keeping your thoughts on being loving.
You're thinking of great things to do for people.
But then when you show up, you're no different than you
were before and you have all these great thoughts, all these
great intentions, but none of them show up.
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It's like where there are good works, you'll see the fruit,
right? They like, they go together.
Because when your hearts really change you, you do things
differently. And sometimes, well, a lot of
the time acting will also changehow you think, which is very
interesting, right? If I don't, if I feel I don't
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feel like doing something nice like pick up my white flowers.
Now I had the idea and I don't feel like it, but I do it
anyway. That changes a pattern within
me. I I'm going to do this.
I know it's the right thing to do.
I don't want to. I don't feel like it because of
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whatever kind of movement, I'm in a hurry, whatever, whatever.
Or maybe we were in an argument and I feel like I need to be
justified in my stance, in this argument, and for me to get
those flowers is going to me. It's me surrendering over my
victory or whatever it is. You know, the right, the the
right thing to always do would be to get the flowers.
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The story. Exactly.
Yeah. And it doesn't have to be.
Doesn't have to be a bouquet of flowers.
It could be a single flower. That's the thing.
It's we think that these gestures have to be grand
gestures. The grandness is in the gesture,
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the. Grandness is.
In the fullness of the day and stopping to make sure that
whether it was a bouquet or a single daffodil, I saw this, I
thought of you. And it doesn't have to be
attached to the disagreement that you had.
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It doesn't have to be attached to the need to feel justified.
And if I give her, I love her. She's my wife.
Yeah, and there's so there's so much to, there's so much value
for the other person knowing youthought about them and then you
also acted on it like that. That goes such a long way in our
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relationships, in our life and also for ourselves too, right.
You could think about all, but maybe you're somebody who
doesn't exercise and you think about it every day.
I should exercise and then you don't do it.
Well, who are you to yourself? Who are you being to yourself?
And if you're going to be good to yourself by following the
things you say you're going to do, it's going to build your
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integrity, build yourself esteem, so you're going to be
more satisfied. You're going to show up more
pleasant. I'm more pleasant when I
exercise. I tell myself I'm going to do
it. If I don't do it, I can let it
go sometimes, other times it canmake me a little agitated and I
can show up differently for people in my life and it and
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it's the little things. And that doesn't mean like you
said, it's not grandiose. I don't have to go exercise for
two hours. I can go take a 10 minute run
and be like, oh man, I. You can take a one minute walk
up and down the stairs. A one minute conscious walk is
better than a than a 26.5 mile marathon.
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Unconsciously committed. I'm going to look, I can do one
minute good, do one minute and talk about celebrating victories
at the end of one minute versus look, it's it's about setting
targets. See, this is the thing.
We think that we have to be all or nothing and that if we're not
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all, we are nothing. And so instead of setting goals
for ourselves, in our relationships, in our
relationship to our self, in ourhealth and fitness, in our
parenting, in our career, financial, instead of setting
goals, why don't we set targets?A target allows for grace A a
target says we still have to be aiming at the target.
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We still have to be working toward it.
But there's a whole dint calculation to progress when
we're talking about a target versus a goal.
Looks smart goals are great in some situations.
But when we're trying to change,when we are trying to revisit
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and remember who we are, we're not changing.
We're actually returning to who God made us to be.
When we are taking care of ourselves and we are taking care
of those around us, when we are being that God centered, soul
centered individual, we're not changing.
We're simply shedding the layersof the onion that weren't ours
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to begin with. And so when we begin that
process of going back and remembering who we are called to
be, if all I can do is a one minute walk on the sidewalk,
maybe I walk to the, the, the post box, what's it called?
The mailbox and back, guess what?
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I was conscious. I made a commitment.
I walked to the mailbox and I walked back.
Normally we don't even pay attention to that walk to the
mailbox, but we're going to be conscious and aware of it.
And maybe the next time we're going to walk a little faster,
or maybe we just walk the same. It's being conscious in our
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day-to-day activities and givingourself the grace to be human.
We are divine beings having a human experience, so we can't
expect perfection when we are onthe road of progress.
Progress requires grace and if Iset a goal to work out for 15
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minutes and I don't reach that, I failed.
If I set a target to park a little further away from the
grocery store so I have to walk and then walk back to my car
after I've purchased my items atthe grocery store.
Not only am I being more conscious, I'm offering grace
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and I'm incorporating it into myday-to-day life, meaningful and
practical ways. So when we think we don't have
the time to be who we want to be, it's just our ego.
It's just error. It's just the devil saying
you're right. Guess what?
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The devil is nothing more than afallen Angel.
Let's pick up that devil and walk back with grace to who we
know we are. Park a little further away from
the grocery store. Go to the mailbox instead of
sending the kids, get up and do things like there's so many ways
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that we can be who we're called to be without it needing to be a
grand gesture or a definitive goal with a pass.
Fail all. Right.
That's so good, so true. And there's a billion
opportunities every day to look for ways to do that.
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I love that so much. Well, Babs, of course, obviously
This is why I had to have you back because just another
phenomenal conversation. I thank you so much for your
time. I want to encourage people also,
as we're here, they can see the link on the bottom below your
name there or the link in the bio, but I want to put it up on
the screen so they can see it. Your free 2 day life charter
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incubator. You gave me a special code for
this, right? So this is amazing.
Ilovethisevent.com life charter dot life and if you want to show
that you came from the unstuck movement, use forward slash life
charter Rob W. What can they expect from that
event? What that event is, is it's two
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days, it's the third Monday and Tuesday of every month.
So if we can't make it this month, look at next month.
And what we do is we work duringthose six hours to design and
achieve your vision of success in the 12 dimensions of your
life. We talk about premise, vision,
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charter blueprint for your life.And there's no selling on the
call. This is about you showing up and
being reminded who you are. And we look forward to you
joining if it's something that feels good for you.
If so, bring a friend. Or if not, just continue to take
those small steps each day to pause, assess and decide who
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you're going to be. It sounds incredible.
And I want to, as we sign this thing off, which I feel like
you've already given so much value, how much more could you
give? But the question is, you know,
say you never talk or see me ever again.
You never talk to or see anybodywho's watched or listened to
this podcast ever again. You want to leave them with with
one lasting statement. What would you leave them with?
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Truth is, you were created perfect, whole, and complete,
and there's not anything that you can do or anything that you
can fail to do that would changethe way God looks at you.
And so set down all of those things that we need, that we
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think we need to do differently in order to be good enough,
valued enough, worthy enough. You already are because you are
here. God bless.
Great words, Wonderful to know you and to have you on the show.
I really appreciate you Babs so much.
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So thank you. Another true testimony of
breakthrough here on the show. Until next time, as always, it's
the unstuck movement.
Welcome back to the unstuck movement.
True testimonies, A breakthrough.
We don't have many repeat guestshere on the show, but when I
have somebody on that I I found so much value in and we didn't
even have enough time to to get deep into subject matter.
I love having them back on. And Amy Lynn Babs, Carol, really
glad to have you back on here. I really, really enjoyed our
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first conversation. I'm so excited to to continue
where we left off last time. Great to be here and great to
continue that conversation. I agree completely.
So if we go back in time, we kind of left on maybe a little
bit of a cliffhanger. Some of the closing remarks
revolved around, you know, nevergoing to be able to fully
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understand something until you really experience it.
And some of the things we were talking about were my story not
being my identity, that everything is a blessing, which
is something that I really I believe in and I know you do
too. How do we actually live these
things out daily when we talk about, OK, the story of my life,
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not my identity, that's not who I actually AM.
And that I, if I could look at everything as a blessing, how
would that change my life daily?How does that, what does that
look like for yourself and how you how can you help people
guide them through those principles?
Well, first, I love that we are jumping straight in because no
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better place to start than wherewe're at, especially given the
last conversation we did have and this idea of not really
truly understanding. You know, there's a difference
between intelligence and wisdom,and intelligence we get from a
book, we get it from lectures that we listen to, maybe sermons
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that we listen to, maybe it's conversations that we're having
with people that intelligence isan important component to our
experience. But wisdom doesn't show up until
we experience the things we're talking about.
So, for example, if we could say, if someone says to us, for
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example, Rob, that you are a phenomenal person,
intellectually I can know that to be true.
But then when I have a conversation with you, the
experience of you being phenomenal becomes very
personal. And so that experience now
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brings wisdom because it's not something that I believe to be
true. It's something I have
experienced. And so no matter what anybody
else says to me about you, they could not sway me from my
experience of you versus the opinion that I may have borrowed
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from another before having that experience.
And when we talk about this ideaof everything being a blessing,
even being called out on, hey, Amy Lynn, somebody told me you
were really cool and I'm having a conversation with you and I
think you're not as cool as theythink you are.
I mean. What kind of person would say
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something like that? But yes.
That would be a courageous and bold person, definitely.
But I mean, it's, it's the for me in my world.
I want people to say those things when they don't feel like
they're in alignment with maybe something that they've heard
about me because it gives us theopportunity to truly connect as
opposed to them wondering in their mind what they've been
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told and how that's not in alignment with what they're
experiencing. It also gives me the opportunity
if those things come out, to acknowledge maybe I'm having a
bad day and I'm not showing up my best self in this moment.
So our experience is so important.
And even take that moment where someone would call you on the
carpet about how you're acting or something that you've said or
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something that they expected from you and you're not living
up to that, that outward curriculum.
Where's the lesson in that? Well, we know where the lesson
is. The lesson is we we get to have
a different exchange. We get to have a conversation
and I either get to recognize and acknowledge that I'm not
living up to what I had promisedor, and probably in the same
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space, they get to recognize that maybe their expectations
were too high and we get to havea real exchange.
That's the lesson. But the blessing is, is that we
get to connect. We get to be real, we get to be
authentic, and in that space, ifwe can operate from a place of
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alignment, then it matters not if we have actually disappointed
another because we've acknowledged that maybe that
there is disappointment present.This disappointment being
present doesn't mean someone didsomething wrong.
It just means we get to work together to remove that
disappointment. And that's the blessing in this
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because look, we look for all ofthese external lessons and
things are hard and we want to avoid the hard things.
But when we stand firm, and by standing firm, I don't mean like
a bouncer. I just mean stand standing solid
in a place where we might feel uncomfortable for being called
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out or being misunderstood or maybe not being trusted, if we
can stand in that space just long enough for us to actually
have an honest conversation about what's going on.
The lessons are multifold, as are the blessings, because now
we have a true relationship withanother, as opposed to an
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acquaintanceship which serves a purpose and has an agenda and
both people feel uncomfortable with.
Very well said and the only way to really, I shouldn't say the
only way, but maybe the best waythat I can think of to give
myself an opportunity to look for blessings, especially when
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something is happening. It's it.
It might be easier to look back and see them.
Definitely is always easier to look back and be like, oh, I
didn't see that blessing happening there in the moment.
But allowing yourself and the situation to have space to see
what's really going on here, right?
That pause that you put in if, if you're attuned correctly,
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it's like, OK, maybe I, I feel triggered right now.
Something emotional is going on.I didn't expect this to happen
because you can get swept away and all that so quickly and then
the blessings go out the window 'cause now you might be in fight
or flight, you might just be in reacting, you feel like you've
been cornered or whatever. There could be a million
different situations where it's not optimal the way you feel.
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But if you give yourself space in that moment, you could have,
I've been talking and, and speaking a lot about crucial
conversations, right? You can have crucial
conversations with yourself or with other people that can
really change dynamics, but thatspace has to be there for that.
So I wanna, before we go into mynext question, which is
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involving space, I wanna welcomeeverybody to the platform.
The unstuck movement was createdbecause I've been stuck.
Amy Lynn, I know you've been stuck.
And we all get stuck at different places in our lives.
And breakthrough is so essential.
We need to have breakthroughs. We can go to the next level, as
it says in the Bible, going fromglory to glory.
I wanna keep going and keep continuing and growing, and so I
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created this platform as examples, real life examples.
That breakthrough is possible for you.
We're sponsored by the ConnectedLeaders Academy.
Check out Connected leadersacademy.com and also the
Pro Podcaster Academy. Launch your platform, streamline
it and monetize it. I can help you with that at
robzwentz.com. As I said to Amy Lynn Babs
Carol, she's been on the episodeonce before and I'm so excited,
(08:39):
so happy to have her back. She's a certified holistic life
coach and spiritual development guide who helps people transcend
trauma and reconnect with their divine nature.
After a stage 4 cancer diagnosis, which we talked about
in the first episode, it transformed her life.
She now empowers others through coaching courses and authentic
presence. So we talk about the the
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technique for cultivating that pause.
And we did get into this in the first episode talking about
unconscious repetition, how we will repeat the same things over
and over again. So in a stage of immediate
challenge or frustration, cultivating that pause, how can
we practice conscious repetitionto shift from habitual reactions
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to being intentional in our responses?
Great question. And I think so many of us have
that question, even if we can't put words to it.
It's kind of like, I know that how I'm showing up isn't the way
I want to show up, but how do I get where I want to be?
But I'm not even sure where it is I want to be.
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And for me, one of the the analogies that works really well
in this space is, is the trafficlight.
So many of us here in the UnitedStates, we call it a stoplight
because that's the emphasis, that's the priority, that's the
focus we put on it, is that it tells us when to stop.
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But its proper name is a trafficlight.
And a traffic light requires awareness, and so does the
transition from habitual behavior to conscious
conversation. And so if we think about that
traffic light, what does it afford us?
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You know, we know that the red light is stopped.
We know that the green light is go.
But I would suggest that the most important light on that
traffic signal is the yellow light.
I feel like I and that yellow light, the yellow.
What happens when you're at an intersection, right yellow light
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unless you're a 16 year old, youknow who just got their driver's
license, yellow light means justput pedal to the metal and get
through that intersection. But for the.
Rest I must, I must still be a 16 year old because when I see
that yellow light, I'm like, oh,I got, I already have two
seconds here to floor it. You know, depending on what mood
I'm in, depending on what mood I'm in that day, that yellow
light either means speed up or slow down.
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Exactly. Exactly.
So I'm going to give you a new way to think about that yellow
light, not just at a traffic intersection, but at an
intersection where something hashappened.
Good, bad or indifferent doesn'tmatter.
And now we have to decide how we're going to show up.
So that yellow light is an indication for a three-step
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process. And it can happen simultaneous,
simultaneously, but it takes a moment of pause and it takes
awareness. We have to know that there's a
yellow light happening either onthe traffic signal or in a
conversation. And that yellow light invites us
to pause and take a deep breath.The second step is to assess
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what's going on here. If we're in an intersection, is
there cars coming? Are they coming quickly?
Are they already stopped? What can I make it through
before it turns red? Do I need to make it through
before it turns red because I'm in a hurry?
Like there's tons of things to assess.
If we're in a conversation, there are just as many things to
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assess, and what we're assessingis going to allow us to then
make a decision. So we're going to pause, we're
going to assess, and then we aregoing to make a decision.
And that decision in our lives, in our daily lives, is who do I
want to be in the next moment? Do I want to be the person that
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in 15 minutes is going to apologize again for how I'm
showing up? Or do I want to be the person
who gives space to have conversation and connection with
this person in a new way? Because in that space, what
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happens is, is we are actually modeling for the other person
good communication, connected relationship.
Look, we're not taught how to bein relationships when we grow
up, not here in Western civilization.
We're taught how to get what we want, when we want, and for the
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reasons that we want it. We are a good boy or a good girl
because someone else needed us to act a certain way in a
certain situation. And so we began to associate
being good or bad with someone else's agenda of good or bad.
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And now what we get to do, I don't have to, But what we get
to do is we get to decide how we're going to show up in that
next moment and the reason that we're going to show up that way.
Sometimes it takes tough love when we're in the middle of a
hard conversation. Sometimes it takes a softer
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approach, sometimes it takes saying, look, we have had this
conversation so many times and every time it ends in us in
conflict. I don't want to.
I don't want to be in conflict with you.
You're my friend, you're my Co worker, you're my husband,
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you're my wife. I don't want to be in conflict
with you. Can we try to have this
conversation a little differently today?
And the first thing that does isit puts skids on the egos.
Not just theirs, but mine too. I know in the past I haven't
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showed up very well in these situations and in these
conversations, but I know I wantto be better at that.
So before I say anything stupid,before I say the same things
over and over that I've said before, I'm going to pause, I'm
going to assess, and then I'm going to decide who do I want to
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be and how do I want to show up in the next moment.
Yeah. And it takes practice and it
takes awareness. It really does take practice.
I'm not being very receptive. What do you mean you want to
talk differently than we've talked in the past?
You know, I think of my father when he was alive.
If I'd have tried to have this conversation with him that way,
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he'd be like, I do not know whattrip you are on, but you need to
come back to Earth. Like that is not how this is
going to happen. So we get to practice that so
that those individuals who need us to communicate with them
differently in order for us to get what we need too.
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Because what we need in that moment is not more conflict.
What we need in that moment is to be able to show up aligned
with our own spiritual and personal integrity and not
repeat a pattern that we alreadyknow is not healthy for ourself
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or the other person. Yeah, yeah.
And when you decide to bring awareness to what's going on and
you decide to address what's going on, some people are going
to be put off by that. They're going to be like, wow,
this is. And it's really interesting in
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life. One of the things I find the
most interesting is when you start showing up different for
people who are used to how you are, it kind of like throws them
for a loop. And I've had it happen to me and
I know that I've done it to people also where I'm like, wait
a minute, who, who am I now? Who?
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You want to do this differently?It'll shine a light on you of
like, oh, wow, OK, that's right.We've been doing this wrong for
years. It needs to be done differently.
And so it can kind of, it can kind of jar you, it can kind of
scare people in the sense of like how I'm trying to think of
the best way to say this. Like when you start to change,
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the people around you knowingly or unknowingly pick up on the
change and it can expose to themhow little they're changing,
which can be something they don't like.
They don't like to see that. They don't want to see that
because that's like your shadow self, if you'd want to call it
that. Like, oh wow, there's like parts
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of me that I don't even, I'm noteven aware of.
And this situation just made me aware that there's some things
about myself that I could change.
And it looks like the person in front of me is, is changing.
And that is intimidating or kindof confrontational to them.
And it can bring people closer to you or drive people further
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away from you. But either way, those
conversations need to happen. Did that make sense?
Made perfect sense. And a couple of things that I, I
want to add to what you were saying there though is, is that
yes, like we teach people how totreat us.
Yeah. And so when we begin to show up
differently and are modeling a different way of showing up
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that's uncomfortable for people,yes, and not because it's good
or bad. And that's the other thing I
want to caution all of us, myself included, not the rabbit
hole not to go down is that whatwe've been doing is wrong.
What we have been doing the way we've been doing it has served a
purpose. It's got us where we are.
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So let's just call it different.Let's don't call it bad or
wrong. Because when we use words like
right or wrong, then people's egos get involved.
And look, when we begin to show up differently in people's
worlds, it's going to trigger not just our ego, but some of
theirs too. So let's not give it additional
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fodder for conversation by usingwords like right or wrong.
Let's just say, man, I just it, it hasn't felt good.
Or you don't even have to do allof the explaining.
You just simply say you are showing up differently and the
way you're speaking is differently.
You are choosing the words that are going to come out of your
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mouth next. As opposed to, for example, I
have a client who is a grandmother and she the the
grandchildren are her stepsons children.
And the stepson was, you know, of full majority age when she
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married his father. And when his father passed away,
there was this seeming disconnect and through walking
through just this very conversation about pause.
Because she's calling, and there's never time for her to be
able to see the grandkids. It's always that what you and I
were talking about earlier. Yeah, we're definitely going to
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have to do that. We're going to have to set some
time aside for that. But it never happened.
And so she was feeling a certainway.
She was feeling abandoned. She was feeling neglected.
She was feeling pushed away. And in reality, what was
happening was is that there wereall of these other unresolved
issues. So she's showing up on the phone
and saying, hey, I want to see my grandkids.
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And he said, yeah, we're going to have to work on, well, look,
you, if you if you always do what you've always done, you'll
always get what you've always got.
It's the very definition of insanity.
And so we began to think about this.
Pause, assess what's going on. He clearly has a full schedule.
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He's also lost his dad recently.There's a whole lot going on
there that we might not be awareof.
So if I show up and say, hey, can I FaceTime with, are the
kids available? Can I FaceTime with them and
then make that FaceTime about the kids and not about me
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getting what I need as a grandma?
I'm feeling abandoned and pushedaway and neglected, but love on
those kids in the way that is available in this moment.
And just that simple shift afterfour or five months, now she
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sees the grandkids every other weekend.
There's the key. The key to that was for four to
five months, right? It's not like a one time I'm
going to show up and then the rest, the rest of the time
forget about it 'cause we can often do that too, right?
Do it once. That's a consistently well, it
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was, but honestly, if you do it once, you're going to notice
things are different. You're going to notice that Oh,
that was that was a little bit different.
It might not have been like gamechanging, but it was like, oh, I
felt different after that. The way I showed up.
My best example for that is withmy, my stepmom, you know, we, it
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was always kind of maybe a rockyrelationship.
And I used to show up like it was going to be a rocky
relationship. That's how I showed up, right?
Because I was just kind of used to it.
So it was a lot of avoiding, youknow, just just the best word to
use is avoiding. How can I get out of these
conversations as fast as possible and go talk to my dad?
And so a couple of years ago, I,I decided to show up differently
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in the sense of like, when I came in, I gave her a big hug, I
helped her clean up dinner and just like did things that I
normally wouldn't do, gave her attention.
And that was like a game changerof like things were different.
Since then. Now, now since then, there's
been, you know, times when I haven't done it and times when I
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do do it. And I've noticed when I haven't
done it or I don't prepare myself.
And I think that's one of the biggest parts, at least for me,
is you're going into a situation, you've got to set
your intentions. And a lot of, you know, when
you're in a hurry, it's hard to set your intentions.
So you have to like, and it onlytakes, you know, maybe a minute
just to like, here's who I wannabe going into this and here's
how I'm gonna act. Easier said than done, 'cause
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you I could, I forget. I mean, honestly, I've done it
where I'm like, wow, that was incredible.
That situation turned out differently than the other
thousand times that I did it. But then I'll forget again and
not do it right. So, but it's really so important
to have put the pause and have the intention of like, here's
how I wanna be. And when you show up
differently, other people act differently.
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Like you said, it's like we havefull control over how we show
up. We have control over that, but
we've got to be aware of it and do it the right way.
So real quick. Voices, go ahead.
I was just going to say conscious choices, as you said,
being aware and taking that timeto pause, looking at that
traffic light before I get out of the car and walk into so and
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so's house or my house or whatever the case may be.
Who am I going to be in this moment?
And am I going to be a good reflection of love and God, or
am I going to be one that needs some help?
Right. And I wrote that down.
I'm always looking, I'm always looking for themes in the show,
and that's such a great theme there.
Pause, assess, and then make a decision.
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I'm going to call it Pam. That's the Pam movement.
Pam pause, assess, make a decision.
Or I call it actually it's, it's, it's actually for us.
We call it the pad. It's the, it's the, it's the
foundation. Because you are, you pause,
assess and decide. And to decide is one of those
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things that you get to hold yourself accountable for.
Because if we're deciding, we'realso, before we make that
decision, we're assessing, we'regetting the information we need.
And look, we don't need to know what's going on on the inside of
that house before we walk in in order to decide who we want to
be when we walk through that door.
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Yeah, the the situation does notdetermine how you get, how you
decide to show up, because it could be total chaos.
It could be total peace. Doesn't matter.
You can walk in there how you want to walk in there.
You can be the peace in a chaotic moment.
Yeah. That is actually completely
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unexpected by those on the otherside of the door.
Yeah, yeah, really very true, very well said.
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So Babs, this is such an important conversation and I
think anybody watching or listening, you know, I have many
different kinds of conversationson this show.
And this, this sort of stuff applies to everything in our
life, a business and personal. And I like to make that
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distinction because we can thinklike, oh, this stuff, this is
like woo woo talk. I don't need this for my
business or whatever. And like, no, it applies to
everything. And it's, it's, it's might be
maybe the most important things to talk about in my personal
opinion. So how can we assess or measure
our current skill level in love?What, what?
How can we see where we're at? I'll answer that question in
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just a second, but I want to jump back to this business is
personal and and just a quick thought that will take it one
step further for those that are listening that might be like
Rob, I don't know what you're talking about here.
Business is personal because here's the thing, if we are
aligned in our integrity and whowe are and what our purpose and
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calling is, if we are a different person in our business
life than we are in our personallife, then we are very likely
disingenuine in one, but probably both areas of our life.
And so that that actually bringsup extra conflict.
So this idea of who we are and why we're here and how we
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approach conversations, that whole traffic light approach,
pause, assess, decide, you know,decide.
I have used it so many times in business that it kept me from
making bad decisions or decisions that I would have to
make differently again because Imade a choice without having all
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of the information. So absolutely love that the
importance and the accountability that what we're
talking about here isn't segregated to our personal life
or our business life. It's our character and it's who
we are and it's who we want to be for the people around us.
Exactly, Yeah, it's it's all baked into your integrity as a
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human and and congruency. You want to be congruent.
It's one of the things I've always I've struggled with in
business is how do I be more of myself in my business.
I don't want to have two separate me's.
I don't, I don't like that doesn't feel right.
And for whatever reason, I've always felt like, well, there
needs to be a business me and a personal me and they really
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shouldn't mix because a personalme is kind of goofy.
I don't take many things that seriously.
Not that I don't get things doneand I'm not, you know, I, I care
and love people and do the rightthings as much as I, I try to
always do the right thing. But I like to have fun.
And in business, I'll think like, I can't really have fun.
I got to be a bit more serious. I can't like let people see this
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side of me because if they do, they won't take me seriously.
Whatever, you know? And that is just not healthy #1
and it's not being authentic #2 and it's going to hurt my
business because people want thereal me, you know, whether they
know it, everybody wants the real you, whether they know it
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or not. And the most authentic, loving
version of yourself. Anyways, it's just something
really, it's, it's for me, it's something I really had to work
on and focus on that I've noticed to be an issue.
And I just wanted to make that point because I think we can
forget sometimes that all of this works together.
Well, and it, and it actually isa great segue then into this,
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how do I figure out how do I assess where I'm at on this
skill level of life, love, whatever the word is that we're
looking for. And for me, one of the things
that I found Rob, and I bet if you really think about this,
you've recognized this too, is that where we trip ourselves up
in that assessment process is that we are assessing against
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the wrong foundations. We assess against.
We we are comparing rather than assessing.
Oh well, this business owner hasthis or this parent does this or
this individual. They are both parents and
business owners and they've got everything like wrapped up in
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this beautiful bow. But if we really knew what was
going on in their experience, wewould know that, just not we
would know that. Not unlike ourselves, we don't
put the ugly stuff out front. It may occasionally seep in, but
we're trying to be our best selfin our business, in our personal
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life, whatever the case may be. So when we get really honest
about assessing where we're at that that middle step, pause,
assess and decide is it's not assessing against what is around
us. It's assessing against what we
know God is calling us to be, who God is calling us to be, and
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how God is calling us to be thatbeing.
And the reality of it is, is that is different in almost
every situation that we walk into because relationships are
different. And that's why it's important
that the practice begins before every conversation.
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And that can include even the hello, you know, you're waving
at somebody, you're driving by in a car and you're waving, you
get in the car and it's like, who am I going to be on this
drive? Because it's a reminder.
It's just like when we were kidsand we were learning our
audition tables and they made the last Part 1 + 2.
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Two plus 2 is 4/4 plus 4 is. I'm going to get that right.
Do I need to send you some flashcards?
You might need to, but look, I actually used to use post it
notes, pause, assess, decide. I'd have them on the corner of
my my computer screen or I'd putthem on the inside windshield of
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my car when they actually let medrive.
So, but it's the reminder who doI make going to be and what
approach am I going to take to getting there?
And it's not assessing against the world.
It's assessing against what I know God is calling me to be,
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which takes us back to the firststep in pausing.
Sometimes the pause is prayer. Sometimes the pause is
devotional. Sometimes the pause is
listening. Because if we don't have a true
relationship with God. And look, true doesn't mean
perfect. It means honest.
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It means authentic. It means committed and
consistent. And here's another way to bring
God into my experience more and more throughout the day because
let's just say on average, we have 10 conversations a day.
If I pause 10 times, assess and decide who I'm going to be at
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each of those pauses, I'm actually reinstating God in my
experience. I'm reminding myself who I'm
going to be and how I'm going todo that.
The why is because I'm a beloveddaughter of God.
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Yeah, and it's. Not about others, it's about
ourselves and who we want to be.100% and it's going to reorient
your attitude right when you check in.
That's why you know, pray without ceasing.
I didn't used to understand that.
I'm like, how would you just howwould you do that all day long?
But it's, it's constantly bringing yourself back to what's
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what you want to focus on. It's constantly bringing
yourself back to a mentality, A mindset, a way of thinking, a
way of approaching situations. And that makes a lot of sense.
And if you think about your day and how often we go unconscious
or in routine throughout a day, it's constant.
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It's so mind blowing to me. What like we have like over
80,000 thoughts a day. You know 9095% of those thoughts
are the same thoughts over and over and over again, right?
So that without that pause and anew intention, you're just going
to live out the old patterns Andyou don't mean to live them out.
You just do. Because that's this repetition.
It's, it's efficient, right? It's efficient for our brain to
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follow a pattern, our mind to follow a pattern because that's
easy. It doesn't burn as much energy,
doesn't take as much work. And so it's not, I don't look at
it like you're not a terrible person because you keep doing
the same thing over and over again.
You're just, you're running off of, you're running off of
momentum, you're running off of patterns and neural pathways.
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And just understanding that it'slike getting yourself the grace
of like, yeah, it's OK, you screwed this up a million times,
but you can do it differently now.
And if you screwed up again, it's it's OK, give yourself
grace, but next time do it rightand, and just just continuing to
do that forever differently. Do it differently.
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Do it differently. Do it differently.
It's not about right or wrong, because it right or wrong takes
us out of a grace space. That's a great point.
Yeah, that's OK. And I, I didn't, I didn't even
realize that I said that. Right.
Do it differently next time. Because see, when we talk about
things right or wrong, then it becomes about being punitive or
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progressive. Yeah, and that's honestly Grace.
Filled. That's guilt, right?
That's that's where guilt and shame come from is and it's the
power of the words that we use with ourselves.
And that's that's you just highlighted something for me.
It's like I don't even realize that I said that.
I didn't even realize I was saying right against wrong.
And that does create right, wrong, good, bad, you know, and
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that's where punishment comes from for yourself.
That's that's a really good point doing it.
Different then the assessment becomes comparison, which then
we have to do the work to come back into assessing who do I
want to be, who do I know I already AM and how am I going to
demonstrate that? Yeah.
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And just because I didn't do it great the last time doesn't mean
I can't do it better or differently this time.
But I have to be aware. It's the, it's the old adage In
business a lot we talk about goals and habits and forming
good habits. And I like to turn that
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conversation on its head and say, no, you don't want habits
because habits are unconscious activity.
And I want to be conscious for every activity that I show up
for. And the reason for that is, is
because in every activity I showup for, there's a lesson and a
blessing. And I want both of them.
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And if I'm showing up unconsciously, I'm likely going
to miss both of them. Think about how many times we've
driven home, we arrived in the in the driveway.
Matter of fact, we may even get in the front door and put our
keys in the in the key bowl and we're like, I don't remember an
iota of that drive since I got in the car.
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That's habit. That's unconscious activity.
And there's nothing bad to that.So again, we're not using bad or
good. But what if we had taken that
time on our drive home to process something in the day so
that we don't then vomit it on our family or to prepare our
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thought of oh, I'm going home and you know what?
I'm going to stop real quick andI'm going to pick up a chocolate
bar for my husband because he hasn't had a payday chocolate
bar and I just wanted to know I was thinking about him.
Those are those moments where weget to be who we know we are
called to be. But if we are operating from a
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place of unconsciousness, again,unconsciousness isn't bad.
It gets us where we're going, but how much more fulfilling?
We think we're looking for happiness.
Happiness is fleeting. Fulfilling requires us to be
present and aware and then to act upon those ideas when they
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come. That I pick up a payday candy
bar for my husband before I get home.
Just because. And acting on it because the
thought doesn't really express awhole lot.
But if I'm over here regurgitating unconsciously all
of these things that I'm not doing differently anyhow, then
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for me that's almost ingratitudein advance to my next prayer
where I ask God to take the stress.
God didn't give us the stress. The stress is self created
trying to do a job that is not ours to do from a place we
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weren't meant to do it. Be conscious about those
thoughts that are running through our head.
I mean gosh you said 8090 thousand thoughts a day.
Holy fish here's Batman. If we could just take a deep
breath and reduce that by 25% from a place of awareness, think
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about how different our day-to-day life would be if 10
times a day we were showing up alittle more aware and making a
decision about our next steps versus the monotony of the dream
of just getting through the day.Please, God, just let me get
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through this day. Nah Who do I get to be in this
moment? God?
And who do I get to be in this moment?
Not just for you, but for me andfor the people that I love and
care about because that may be the gospel that they need in
that moment. But if I'm caught in my stuff,
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they're not going to get that either.
Yeah, and who are you? If you're, you know, maybe
you're in prayer throughout the day.
Maybe you're keeping your minds your, your thoughts on God.
You're keeping your thoughts on being loving.
You're thinking of great things to do for people.
But then when you show up, you're no different than you
were before and you have all these great thoughts, all these
great intentions, but none of them show up.
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It's like where there are good works, you'll see the fruit,
right? They like, they go together.
Because when your hearts really change you, you do things
differently. And sometimes, well, a lot of
the time acting will also changehow you think, which is very
interesting, right? If I don't, if I feel I don't
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feel like doing something nice like pick up my white flowers.
Now I had the idea and I don't feel like it, but I do it
anyway. That changes a pattern within
me. I I'm going to do this.
I know it's the right thing to do.
I don't want to. I don't feel like it because of
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whatever kind of movement, I'm in a hurry, whatever, whatever.
Or maybe we were in an argument and I feel like I need to be
justified in my stance, in this argument, and for me to get
those flowers is going to me. It's me surrendering over my
victory or whatever it is. You know, the right, the the
right thing to always do would be to get the flowers.
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The story. Exactly.
Yeah. And it doesn't have to be.
Doesn't have to be a bouquet of flowers.
It could be a single flower. That's the thing.
It's we think that these gestures have to be grand
gestures. The grandness is in the gesture,
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the. Grandness is.
In the fullness of the day and stopping to make sure that
whether it was a bouquet or a single daffodil, I saw this, I
thought of you. And it doesn't have to be
attached to the disagreement that you had.
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It doesn't have to be attached to the need to feel justified.
And if I give her, I love her. She's my wife.
Yeah, and there's so there's so much to, there's so much value
for the other person knowing youthought about them and then you
also acted on it like that. That goes such a long way in our
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relationships, in our life and also for ourselves too, right.
You could think about all, but maybe you're somebody who
doesn't exercise and you think about it every day.
I should exercise and then you don't do it.
Well, who are you to yourself? Who are you being to yourself?
And if you're going to be good to yourself by following the
things you say you're going to do, it's going to build your
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integrity, build yourself esteem, so you're going to be
more satisfied. You're going to show up more
pleasant. I'm more pleasant when I
exercise. I tell myself I'm going to do
it. If I don't do it, I can let it
go sometimes, other times it canmake me a little agitated and I
can show up differently for people in my life and it and
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it's the little things. And that doesn't mean like you
said, it's not grandiose. I don't have to go exercise for
two hours. I can go take a 10 minute run
and be like, oh man, I. You can take a one minute walk
up and down the stairs. A one minute conscious walk is
better than a than a 26.5 mile marathon.
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Unconsciously committed. I'm going to look, I can do one
minute good, do one minute and talk about celebrating victories
at the end of one minute versus look, it's it's about setting
targets. See, this is the thing.
We think that we have to be all or nothing and that if we're not
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all, we are nothing. And so instead of setting goals
for ourselves, in our relationships, in our
relationship to our self, in ourhealth and fitness, in our
parenting, in our career, financial, instead of setting
goals, why don't we set targets?A target allows for grace A a
target says we still have to be aiming at the target.
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We still have to be working toward it.
But there's a whole dint calculation to progress when
we're talking about a target versus a goal.
Looks smart goals are great in some situations.
But when we're trying to change,when we are trying to revisit
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and remember who we are, we're not changing.
We're actually returning to who God made us to be.
When we are taking care of ourselves and we are taking care
of those around us, when we are being that God centered, soul
centered individual, we're not changing.
We're simply shedding the layersof the onion that weren't ours
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to begin with. And so when we begin that
process of going back and remembering who we are called to
be, if all I can do is a one minute walk on the sidewalk,
maybe I walk to the, the, the post box, what's it called?
The mailbox and back, guess what?
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I was conscious. I made a commitment.
I walked to the mailbox and I walked back.
Normally we don't even pay attention to that walk to the
mailbox, but we're going to be conscious and aware of it.
And maybe the next time we're going to walk a little faster,
or maybe we just walk the same. It's being conscious in our
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day-to-day activities and givingourself the grace to be human.
We are divine beings having a human experience, so we can't
expect perfection when we are onthe road of progress.
Progress requires grace and if Iset a goal to work out for 15
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minutes and I don't reach that, I failed.
If I set a target to park a little further away from the
grocery store so I have to walk and then walk back to my car
after I've purchased my items atthe grocery store.
Not only am I being more conscious, I'm offering grace
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and I'm incorporating it into myday-to-day life, meaningful and
practical ways. So when we think we don't have
the time to be who we want to be, it's just our ego.
It's just error. It's just the devil saying
you're right. Guess what?
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The devil is nothing more than afallen Angel.
Let's pick up that devil and walk back with grace to who we
know we are. Park a little further away from
the grocery store. Go to the mailbox instead of
sending the kids, get up and do things like there's so many ways
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that we can be who we're called to be without it needing to be a
grand gesture or a definitive goal with a pass.
Fail all. Right.
That's so good, so true. And there's a billion
opportunities every day to look for ways to do that.
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I love that so much. Well, Babs, of course, obviously
This is why I had to have you back because just another
phenomenal conversation. I thank you so much for your
time. I want to encourage people also,
as we're here, they can see the link on the bottom below your
name there or the link in the bio, but I want to put it up on
the screen so they can see it. Your free 2 day life charter
(50:51):
incubator. You gave me a special code for
this, right? So this is amazing.
Ilovethisevent.com life charter dot life and if you want to show
that you came from the unstuck movement, use forward slash life
charter Rob W. What can they expect from that
event? What that event is, is it's two
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days, it's the third Monday and Tuesday of every month.
So if we can't make it this month, look at next month.
And what we do is we work duringthose six hours to design and
achieve your vision of success in the 12 dimensions of your
life. We talk about premise, vision,
purpose and statement strategy. And we actually give you a life
(51:36):
charter blueprint for your life.And there's no selling on the
call. This is about you showing up and
being reminded who you are. And we look forward to you
joining if it's something that feels good for you.
If so, bring a friend. Or if not, just continue to take
those small steps each day to pause, assess and decide who
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you're going to be. It sounds incredible.
And I want to, as we sign this thing off, which I feel like
you've already given so much value, how much more could you
give? But the question is, you know,
say you never talk or see me ever again.
You never talk to or see anybodywho's watched or listened to
this podcast ever again. You want to leave them with with
one lasting statement. What would you leave them with?
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Truth is, you were created perfect, whole, and complete,
and there's not anything that you can do or anything that you
can fail to do that would changethe way God looks at you.
And so set down all of those things that we need, that we
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think we need to do differently in order to be good enough,
valued enough, worthy enough. You already are because you are
here. God bless.
Great words, Wonderful to know you and to have you on the show.
I really appreciate you Babs so much.
(53:10):
So thank you. Another true testimony of
breakthrough here on the show. Until next time, as always, it's
the unstuck movement.
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