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March 1, 2022 • 32 mins

In all 50 states, people caught up in the criminal justice system can be
charged fines and fees for everything from the cost of police transport during
arrests, to the cost of room and board for their time behind bars. In this episode,
Jay learns about the back story of how Pay to Stay policy was inspired by a killer
clown. And he speaks to experts and journalists about how Pay to Stay policies
lock people into a never-ending cycle of debt and involvement with the criminal
justice system.

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