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July 25, 2021 44 mins

Ed has a revealing conversation with Matthew Barzun, the former US Ambassador to the UK and, prior to that, Sweden. A former CNET executive and campaign strategist credited with creating the ‘citizen fundraisers’ that fueled Obama’s rise, Barzun’s communal viewpoint comes to the fore in the conversation. His recently published book, “The Power of Giving Away Power” (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/602163/the-power-of-giving-away-power-by-matthew-barzun/#:~:text=The%20Power%20of%20Giving%20Away%20Power%20shows%20how%20the%20Constellation,making%20the%20leap%20to%20lead), emphasizes the importance of the ‘constellation’ vs. the ‘pyramid’ in the formation of our national identity, an apt metaphor.

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