October 11, 2025 • 61 mins
Adreena Winters is a femdom content creator, author, and educator with over a decade of lived experience in the cuckolding lifestyle. She’s the founder of The Cuck Academy and the author of So, You Want to Be a Cuckold? Her popular video series, Cuckold Confessions, blends real-life fantasies with erotic storytelling.
Adreena has been featured discussing cuckolding in VICE, The Sun, and the New York Post, and continues to be a leading voice in making cuckolding both mainstream and meaningful.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
This is the Venus Cuckolders Podcast, a place to
learn all things cuckolding forthe curious, for the passionate,
and for the sexually empoweredwoman who wants it all.
SPEAKER_03 (00:26):
Let's go.
SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
Welcome to the show, everyone.
I'm your host, Venus.
Thanks for joining me today.
Today I have Adrina Wintersjoining me on the show, and
she's so awesome.
You guys are gonna love her.
I've been wanting to have her onas a guest for so long.
And uh it was one of mylisteners who recommended her as
a guest for today.
(00:48):
And uh wow, she is just awesome.
I love her to pieces, she'samazing.
I'm gonna have all of her linksin the show notes for today, so
make sure you check them outbecause she is a boss.
Like she's got a lot of projectsthat she's got going on, which
are amazing, and she wrote themost epic blog post that I have
read in a very, very long time.
(01:11):
So you have to check it out.
Um, before we jump into it, youhave may have noticed that this
episode is a couple of weekslate.
This is the first time in fiveyears that I did not get an
episode out in time.
(01:33):
And um, I don't know why thatbothers me so much because I'm
my own boss, but it does.
And I it's just I've been very,you know, strict about the
schedule of when I put outepisodes, and I've never, ever,
ever been late until now.
So it's just bugging me a littlebit.
But I had a family member passaway suddenly, and to say it was
(01:57):
devastating was would be anunderstatement.
And for those of you who havelost someone close to you, you
know what I'm talking about.
Um grief, no matter how much youtry to mentally prepare yourself
for the day the day that yourparent passes away, uh it's not
(02:17):
ever something that you canreally deal with when it
happens, because it was sooverwhelming for me, and I I
like couldn't function and stillcan't very well.
Um, grief is a fucking powerfulthing, and I just couldn't
(02:39):
function.
There was a solid week where Ijust I could not function.
I went out to the grocery store,I found myself in tears in the
middle of the grocery aisle, andI was like, I I probably
shouldn't be out in public rightnow.
So it was hard to say it washard was you know, it was that's
(03:01):
not saying enough.
It was difficult, and I'm stillworking through it, but man, I I
just I I could not function.
It reminds me of about a decadeago when the cuck boyfriend that
I was dating um passed away, andit was like just sudden, it was
(03:24):
sudden, not as sudden, but itwas sudden.
It was a rapid decline in hishealth, and uh, and it was just
not something that I could dealwith very well, and I I was able
to take a break from everythingfor quite a while back then, and
this time I feel like just notable to take as much of a break.
(03:46):
Um, and I so I'm still workingthrough it, and I just want to
say a big shout out to everybodyout there who is in my circle
that just helped me through thattime.
Special shout out to DocChocolate, who he's been through
this, he went through thisrecently, and uh he knows what
(04:08):
it's feels like what it feelslike to to be where I've where
I'm at.
And so thank you so much to DocChocolate because I I I honestly
couldn't do this without you andall of the rest of my friends
who've helped me through thispretty fucking shitty time.
Now, before we jump into thisepisode with Adrena, I hope uh
(04:29):
you can all join me on Tuesday,October 14th.
I'm doing a live chat in theQueen's Quarters community, and
we're gonna be talking about howto get your wife into
interracial cuckolding.
The last uh live chat I did towhere we talked about how to get
your wife into cuckolding um andhad some great conversations
around that, around that.
(04:50):
Crystal Welch joined me in uhfor that one.
This one we're gonna talk aboutexactly how to get her into
black eyes.
So I got this question all thetime.
I know there's a lot of guys outthere, a lot of cucks out there
who are like really, reallystruggling with this one and
want to see this happen.
And so you're looking for adviceeverywhere online.
(05:11):
This is gonna be a chat for youguys.
Let's talk about it, let's comeup with some ideas, stories,
challenges, tips, advice,whatever.
It's live at 1 p.m.
Pacific, that's 4 p.m.
Eastern, and that's gonna beOctober 14th.
And it is free to join the uhlimited access to the Queen's
(05:32):
Quarters community.
I will put the link for theQueen's Quarters event in the
show notes for today.
All right, that's it forannouncements.
Let's jump into this episodewith Adrina.
SPEAKER_00 (05:46):
Here we go.
SPEAKER_01 (05:54):
All right, joining me on the show.
I have a fantastic guest fortoday.
I'm super excited about this.
I have Adrena Winters on theshow.
She is a FemDom content creator,author, and educator with over a
decade of lived experience inthe cuckolding lifestyle.
She's the founder of the CuckAcademy and the author of So,
(06:16):
You Wanna Be a Cuckold.
Her popular video series,Cuckold Confessions, blends real
life fantasies with eroticstorytelling.
Adrena has been featureddiscussing cuckolding in Vice,
The Sun, and the New York Postand continues to be a leading
voice in making cuckolding bothmainstream and meaningful.
Adrina, welcome to the show.
(06:37):
Thank you so much for being ontoday.
SPEAKER_02 (06:40):
Thank you so much for inviting me on.
I'm so excited for this.
SPEAKER_01 (06:44):
Yeah, this is gonna be great.
I want to do a special shout outto Kai.
Uh, Kai is a listener of theshow, and he emailed me and he
said, You have to have Adrena onthe show.
So, shout out to Kai.
Thank you, Kai.
Yeah, I've been, I've I've heardyour name in the cuckolding
sphere over the last severalyears.
(07:05):
And so I know that you have alot of fans out there.
You have a lot of people who uhwho are you know big, big
supporters of of what it is thatyou do.
Uh what for those of you who arelistening, this is for for you.
What is your story, Adrena?
How did you come about to bethis like cuckledress, queen of
(07:26):
spades, cuckledress in thesphere?
SPEAKER_02 (07:29):
Yeah, so I guess it was completely unintentional.
I started doing mainstream pornin my early 20s.
And without realizing it orhaving no intention uh to engage
in it, I was just attracting menin my personal life that got off
(07:49):
on me being with other men,which was helpful because that
was my job at the time was to gooff and have sex on camera with
other men.
So yeah, I just in my early 20s,that was just the the guys that
I was attracting to kind of havemy per personal and private
relationships with were justguys that really liked that.
And I guess I didn't even knowit was car coding at the time.
(08:11):
I just was like, oh, this thisis helpful because you know,
this is my job, so you kind ofgotta accept it or you know,
it's not gonna work out.
So um, and then um I guess thenI guess the the main turning
point was uh I had I was in arelationship with a guy who said
(08:36):
he was okay with me doing pornand then very clearly wasn't.
And I was chatting to um acamera guy that I used to shoot
with a lot um about like howhard it was, like you know,
working a porn and a guy sayingthey're okay with it and then
they're not actually okay withit.
And um he was just like, well,I'd be okay with it.
(08:57):
And um yeah, we kind of we endedup in like a really long-term
relationship.
He was a camera guy, um, andmassively into cuckolding.
Um, and um yeah, so we juststarted filming.
Well, he he was just filminglike hook hookups that like like
real life cuckolding scenarios,I guess.
Like he was the cook filming,and I was, you know, having sex
(09:22):
with other guys, and he wasfilming it.
And it was really fun becauselike I could talk to camera like
exactly as I because he wasbehind the camera, so I was just
like talking to him and and umthat was really fun.
Um unfortunately we did break upuh four or five years ago now,
but I guess that's what reallykind of cemented me kind of
(09:42):
really honing in on accordingcontent.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (09:46):
Yeah, it's amazing how that kind of career when
you're a content creator canreally attract cacks.
They're like, um that's right upmy alley.
Thanks.
Yes.
And I love how when you werefilming, it felt like legit
because it was your boyfriendbehind the camera.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That you were able to reallyjust like get into it.
(10:08):
Did you really know whatcuckolding, like, how did you
find out what cuckoldingactually was when you were like
I guess it was that partner whowas really like, yeah, like this
is what I am, this is this iswhat I like.
SPEAKER_02 (10:20):
And yeah, we'd we'd kind of go to uh events and
parties together, and yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:26):
Was he more like the stag type of cuckold, or was he
like, did he like the teasing?
SPEAKER_02 (10:33):
Uh yeah, yeah.
I don't know if I'm divorgingtoo much information, but he
liked, he kind of coined, Idon't think he did coin the
term, I've seen it around, buthe liked the term alpha cuck.
Okay, okay.
So yeah.
Um but but like, yeah, I feel inreality he really did like the
humiliation and that.
I think it's just unfortunatelythere's so much shame around
(10:53):
cuck holding, and I think a lotof guys struggle to just fully
just embrace being a cuck, andthey're kind of just like, no,
I'm I'm not completely a cuck,um but I'm still a real man, and
yeah, so yeah, I know all aboutthat.
SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
That is a real fucking thing.
I and why do you think that is?
Is that they just like I don'tknow.
What what are your thoughts onit?
SPEAKER_02 (11:21):
I honestly think it's shame.
I think that there's so muchstigma around men that are into
cuckolding that you know they'reweak and they're pathetic and
they've got no no uh self-esteemand all all this kind of hor
like negative negativity thatguys worry that they'll just be
(11:42):
labeled with those things ifthey fully accept it.
That's what they are.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:48):
But for the guys who actually accept it, the ones who
get to the point of likeself-compassion and acceptance,
yeah.
It is amazing.
Like they are the best partners.
SPEAKER_02 (12:00):
Yes.
So I'm always I'm like, you justneed to accept it and just
embrace it, and then you'll beso much happier.
SPEAKER_01 (12:07):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Uh so what are you doing now?
Are so that was your start?
Uh how did you get into whatyou're doing now?
SPEAKER_02 (12:16):
So I guess I've still never really officially
announced it.
Um, but about three years agonow, I decided I wanted to stop
filming sex on camera.
Um, I just found I'd been doingit for 15 years, and I just felt
like I was becoming quiteperformative, and it was kind of
affecting my sex life in myprivate life because you kind of
(12:39):
testify until you're just goingthrough the motions, I guess.
And it it was really hard tosplit the the two.
So I was like, right, I need tomake a decision here.
And so yeah, I've stoppedfilming um my sex life.
Um, and that um it sort of justgave me more time to focus on
(13:00):
other avenues, and I get so manyguys reach out to me for like
advice and like education,really.
And I was just like, this, Ijust really feel like there's
such a need for like more moreinformation out there.
So I decided to write a a bookwhich I published earlier this
year.
Um, as you said, so you want tobe a cuckold, uh, which has been
going down really well.
(13:21):
And then I recorded that forAudible as well, and I just
released that last month, whichis really cool.
They can hear me reading it inmy British accent, which all the
American cups seem to love.
SPEAKER_00 (13:31):
Yes, yes.
It is hot, it's really hot.
I can see how that's a hawk, itis.
SPEAKER_02 (13:41):
And then um, yeah, then I I started the cuck
Academy Mostly as a blog.
Um and then I I was kind ofthinking about the different
stages that kind of cuckolds gothrough, and I've started kind
of building like some coursesand stuff to kind of help guys
kind of progress through thosestages.
(14:03):
So, first of all, kind ofworking through the kind of
shame that they may beassociating with it, and then
moving on to like how they mightactually be beneficial to a a
another partner and you knowwhat women actually want from
them and how to approach that,and then yeah, um, once they're
actually in a relationship andsome of the issues that they
(14:24):
might find from there.
So yeah, that's all reallyexciting.
I've just started aqualification in sexology, like
I'm such a geek.
So uh I'm like I really wantlike the the academic
background.
So like I really want to be ableto help people and give them
advice.
It's like actually likefactually and scientifically
helpful as well as just likefrom my own lived experiences.
(14:46):
I love that so much.
SPEAKER_01 (14:47):
I'm a I'm a total geek.
unknown (14:49):
I love it.
SPEAKER_01 (14:50):
I really am.
That's so you have a lot goingon.
I I love how you shifted fromone thing that wasn't feeling
fulfilling anymore for you intosomething where you could be
helpful for where there was areal need or is a real need.
I have a gazillion guys askingme for advice and a gazillion
(15:12):
guys asking the same threequestions over and over and over
again.
And so I get it.
Like there's a big, there's abig need for that.
Um, have you cracked the codefor guys dealing with their cuck
shame?
Like, because like I don't know.
I I haven't done your, I haven'tread through your through your
course or anything like that.
I do know somebody who has, andhe said it was really good and
(15:36):
um very um non-porny, very real.
SPEAKER_02 (15:39):
There's no porn, which I kind of worry about.
I don't know whether guys arelike expecting porn because
that's like my background.
But yeah, there's no porn.
There's there's there's nonudity, there's even the
language is really just likequite informative and yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:51):
So if guys are looking for a wank session,
that's not it, right?
Another one, no.
Right.
Um, but uh to be able to whatfor what you said with your cuck
academy course, like to to dealwith the big, the big thing,
which is the shame that a lot ofguys, if not nearly all guys,
deal with um when it comes tocuck holding.
(16:12):
Like, have you figured it outlike how to get these guys past
that?
SPEAKER_02 (16:18):
I hope so.
The feedback I get like it'slike my little morning routine
now is I I log on and I likeit's like a seven-day course,
and at the end of each lesson,they kind of have to fill out
like a bit of a reflection.
Um and um like honestly, I loveit.
I sit there with my coffee and Iread through their reflections
(16:39):
and I give them feedback onthem.
And it's just it's like itreally fills me with like so
much hope and optimism thatthese guys are really like
really want to address it andthey really want to change and
they're they're really taking iton board.
And yeah, it seems to behelping.
Maybe I need like a feedbackform afterwards, uh asking them
how much they felt felt ithelped.
But yeah, it seems to seems tobe helping.
SPEAKER_01 (17:01):
Yeah, the when I first started doing this show,
um, it was within the first yearthat I started to get a lot of
feedback from guys saying, youknow, you've helped me to accept
who I am and helped me to not,you know, loathe this side of
myself.
Yeah.
And I honestly did not fuckingeven know that there was this
like crushing level of shamethat so many guys were carrying.
(17:23):
But I also felt really happythat the show was helping them
in that way.
So I think it's fantastic thatthere's more resources uh out
there, like what you offer tofor guys to be able to work
through this.
Cause let's face it, like it isdebilitating for them.
It is debilitating, damaging fortheir relationships, potential
relationships.
(17:44):
So yeah, being able to getthrough that in whatever way,
shape or form, whatever journeythat is, whatever that looks
like, to be able to get throughit and come out on the other
side and be like the an amazingpartner.
Oh my god, worth it.
So um what else is in your cuckacademy courses?
SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
Um so I'm still building it actually.
Um, so yeah, it starts off withlike a quiz so that they can
kind of help identify kind ofwhat stage they're at.
And then yeah, stage one I'velaunched, um, and then stage two
I'm currently building, but thatwill be more about uh how to
approach getting into arelationship with someone.
(18:24):
And um it's not all about them,and they need to be need to be
thinking about what theirpartner wants and you know how
that how they can best be ofservice to her rather than just
their fantasies.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:38):
Okay, so what yeah, one of the other revelations
I've had over the years,actually very early on, was
realizing how male-drivencuckolding is.
Um yes, like it's entirely-citedto be on your show.
Yes, it's so it feels likeentirely male, like driven
through the male gaze and yeah,male consumption, and literally
(19:01):
feels like a lot of thesefantasies are crafted by men.
And I'm just like, where is theother lens in all of this?
Like, I feel do you you feel youfeel the same?
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
Why is that?
Why do you think that this is somale-driven?
And because it for a lot ofpeople don't know about
cuckolding, they're shockedabout that.
(19:22):
They think this is somethingthat should be driven by women.
SPEAKER_02 (19:26):
So, yeah, so that I think you need to hit the nail
on the head there.
I think just there are a lot ofwomen that aren't aware of it.
I think obviously women watchporn, but I think men are
introduced to the concept ofcuckolding through porn quite
often.
You know, they're just sort ofdown some rabbit hole on a tube
site or whatever, and they comeacross it and they're like, oh,
(19:47):
maybe this resonates with me.
And I don't think women do thatas much.
So I just I don't think they'reas aware.
And I have like loads of friendsthat are in um like consensual,
non-monogonous relationships oryou know, different poly
situations that just weren'taware of cuckooing.
And then I get chatting to themand they're like, Oh, yeah.
(20:07):
Oh, I think actually that's whatI want.
Um, so yeah, I just don't thinkthat many women are aware of it.
And then when they are, they'relike, Oh, this sounds amazing.
This is exactly what I need inmy life.
SPEAKER_01 (20:18):
Yeah, I agree.
There women are just notarriving at the cuckolding door
from the similar path as men ingeneral.
And no, the and it's the samething with me when it comes to
non-monogamous relationships.
I was in like the swingers'world as a like solo woman for a
decade until I actually heardabout cuckolding.
(20:39):
Like, how is that possible?
SPEAKER_02 (20:41):
Yeah, I hear that so much.
Like they kind of go down aswinging route and then and then
it's like, oh no, actually, Ijust want to cuck man.
SPEAKER_01 (20:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Interesting.
It uh it's very interesting.
Okay, so what um what is thiscuck confessions thing that you
uh were doing or at some point?
SPEAKER_02 (20:59):
Yeah, so I am still doing.
Um so like I said, I took a stepback from having sex on camera.
Um, but I kind of didn't want toretire entirely from filming
content because I love it andI've been doing it for so long.
Um, so um I thought it'd bereally cool to film real couples
um uh in different kind ofcuckolding scenarios.
(21:24):
And I the way I ended upapproaching it was to get my
fans to submit their favouritescenarios or fantasies, and then
I I used those um to to makescripts to then match up to the
couples that I think would begood for the series.
So yeah, I I have uh done stuffthat focuses on you know, buy
(21:48):
stuff or foot worship stuff, oryou know, really
service-oriented stuff, or moreum we did like a crazy gangbang,
like just all sorts of differentvariations of cuckoding, but
it's been really fun and it'sall been real couples that have
have done the scenes.
So there's it's really nice tohave that intimate like real
intimacy and connection in theso it's like real couples that
(22:11):
are acting out other people'sfantasies.
Yeah, but I deliberately matchthe fantasies to the right
couple, like niches and andkinks that that couple are into.
Yeah.
Is that hard?
I've had so many submitted to methat I kind of speak to the
couples first and sort of say,like what you guys into, and
(22:33):
then I sort of just search forkey terms in the submitted
things and sort of go, does thisone sound fun to you?
And they're like, Yeah, we loveit, let's do that.
So yeah, it's fun.
SPEAKER_01 (22:42):
Okay, good.
And so and those and thosevideos are you sell those
videos?
SPEAKER_02 (22:48):
Yeah, so I I have a website called the
cuckoldconfessions.com, um, butI also post them on clips for
sale.
The one I just released lastweek is currently number one on
Clips for Sale in the cuckordingcategory.
So yeah, they seem reallypopular.
People seem to love it.
I thought it'd be weird me justlike third wheeling like in a
like a random couple, but no,people seem to love it.
SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
So oh my god, this is so cool.
So what do you do when they'redo when the couple's like doing
their thing and stuff like areyou just So I think what's
resonating, I don't know, noone's told me, but I think what
people like is I kind of focuson the cuck.
SPEAKER_02 (23:24):
So like the wife will be, you know, with her
lover, and then I'll be with thecuck, sort of just like making
sure it's being useful and likenot just sitting in the corner
looking.
You're like the facilitator,right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's really fun.
I love it.
SPEAKER_00 (23:41):
Oh my god, that actually sounds good.
SPEAKER_02 (23:46):
I I would love that.
unknown (23:48):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (23:50):
That's so creative.
I love that you came up withthat too, because it's a way of
of for these people to indulgein their fantasies, um, and then
as a way for these couples tolike have fun together, and then
for you to still be involved inthere and facilitating and it's
hot.
SPEAKER_02 (24:07):
Yeah.
Well, the what what the cuck'ssaying, because all of them are
like already on OnlyFans, likedo it doing content.
Yeah.
But usually the cuck is the onedoing the filming.
So he's like, this is so nice.
I don't have to think aboutanything.
I can just be like in themoment.
Like I don't have to think aboutwhat I need to do, or if I'm
getting the camera angled oranything, like I can just like
let go, which is really fun.
Yeah, it's good.
SPEAKER_01 (24:27):
Oh my gosh, I love that.
So how long have you been doingthat for now?
SPEAKER_02 (24:31):
Um, I've been releasing one a month and I've
just released the seventh one.
So yeah, seven months.
SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
Oh, that's so great.
And I'm I'm glad that it's doingwell.
Number one for for the video youjust put out, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
Yeah.
Yeah, I really wasn't sure howit would work.
I thought people would justthink it's a bit like just not
get the concept, but yeah, itseems seems to be working.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:54):
Well, there's one thing about cucks when they are
just totally imaginative, likethey can get right into shit.
Like you you put the concept outthere and they'd be like running
with it.
unknown (25:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:07):
No one's more eager and imaginative than cucks.
They are they are it.
Yes.
I'm sorry for it as well.
It's great.
Um, and so someone did say thatyou are into black eyes or queen
of spades.
Is that correct?
Do you you Yes, yes, I I evenhave the tattoo.
SPEAKER_02 (25:24):
Yeah.
I love it.
SPEAKER_01 (25:27):
How long have you had the tattoo for?
She's pointing to her wrist.
For those of you who are notwatching the video, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (25:34):
Yeah, I have a little spade tattoo on my wrist.
Um, so oh, I don't know.
I wrote a whole blog post aboutit because I'm terrible at
remembering dates.
So I like went through all thedates.
I want to say 2017.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (25:49):
So quite a long time.
Um Has anyone asked you aboutit?
Uh, who's seen it?
Like out in the water?
SPEAKER_02 (25:55):
No, I guess it's not like shaded in, so it's quite
subtle.
So I guess you kind of have toknow to kind of know.
Um but yeah, it's um yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
So are so you just like if we are you sh is it just
your lovers that are black, ordo you date black men or or
what?
SPEAKER_02 (26:15):
Yeah, so I've been like black only since 2017.
Um, with one exception, I gotbooked by Brazzers to do a
scene, and they specificallymade it a cuckolding scene, and
I was like, I don't feel like Ican turn it down because it's I
I'm so keen to make cuck holdinglike more mainstream, and like
(26:36):
Brazzers was a huge studio, andthe fact that they wanted to do
a cuckolding scene, I was like,I need to do this.
Um, but yeah, you don't reallyget to choose who you film with.
So I filmed with Danny D, um,who's like a very skinny white
dude.
Oh.
I'm not gonna giant penis, huge,huge penis, but yeah, absolutely
not my type.
(26:56):
Uh but Isaac, I'm doing it fortalk a little bit.
You're like giving yourself apep talk.
I can do this, I can do this.
SPEAKER_00 (27:05):
I got you.
SPEAKER_02 (27:07):
So he's the only exception uh in like the last
however many years that is, Iguess almost a decade now.
Uh yeah, he's he's the onlyexception.
At least he had a big dick.
That's good.
Yeah, it's huge, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (27:18):
Okay.
And so you're you're a sizequeen, right?
That's what I've heard.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Um and so have you always been asize queen your whole life?
SPEAKER_02 (27:28):
So when people ask me that, I like to respond with
my first boyfriend's nicknamefor his penis was Mr.
Porky.
Um because it was just like uhgirthy and long.
Like, yeah.
So I just I I just I started outthat way, like, and I just yeah,
was it I guess I just never wentback.
SPEAKER_01 (27:51):
I know.
I was the same way my firstlong-term boyfriend was fucking
huge.
And I didn't realize it at thetime.
I just thought everyone wouldhave to do it.
No, exactly.
It's not until you I we broke upand I fucked some other guy and
I was like, uh, what is this?
SPEAKER_00 (28:07):
Yeah, I can relate.
SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
Then you're like, oh, well, I guess there is a big
difference in guys.
So yeah, I get it.
I totally get it.
So what is like the ideal, doyou have like an ideal size uh
that works for you?
SPEAKER_02 (28:23):
And like Yeah, so like eight inches, like a set
seven's okay, but like eight ormore, or yeah, yeah.
Probably not less than seven.
I mean, yeah, yeah.
Five's average, right?
And I'm like, no.
SPEAKER_01 (28:38):
Yeah, I was looking, I was looking at these um posted
something on my socials theother day about like the
countries that have the biggestdicks, and it was so funny that
the US is like way the fuck downin like 84 out of 100 or
something.
Ridiculous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And this said the average isfive point something in the US.
Like, oh, those poor guys.
(28:59):
Yeah, that would be too small.
The UK is not much better.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's your what's yours?
I'm probably about the same asyou.
Um, I think there's a there is athreshold where it's just it
gets to be so such a small sizethat I it doesn't hit the spots
that I need it to hit.
And so exactly I just feel likeit's it's very boring sex
(29:22):
because like I just can't, Idon't get that same sensation
that I would normally get with aguy who is yeah bigger.
Having said that though, like Idon't know about you, but I
really do enjoy like receivingpussy worship.
I really enjoy lots of otherstuff, not just PIV sex.
So I think it like cucks getobsessed over like the dick in
(29:43):
pussy sex and stuff like that.
But yeah, there's so much otherstuff around that that and
that's where I think cucks aregreat because they can, even if
they are lacking in size, theycan make up for it in lots of
other ways.
SPEAKER_02 (29:55):
Oh, other ways, yeah.
A lot of them are very good withtheir mouth, as they should be,
yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They kind of have they'velearned that they need to
compensate in other ways.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
Yeah.
And I love them for that.
Like just like you know, justrecognizing, okay, like I might
not be everything in thatdepartment, but I think cucks
are just amazing people just forfor that part of it, realizing
that they're they they don'tthey can't be everything and
giving her that gift.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Um, okay, and so like do youhave like do you enjoy having
(30:28):
like a lot of black guys thatyou see uh as lovers, or is it
just like a few here and there?
SPEAKER_02 (30:36):
Yeah, I guess quality over quantity, I guess.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:41):
I hear that a lot.
Like I used to fuck any anydude.
Like I used to just be like,whatever.
SPEAKER_00 (30:47):
I think we all have that phase.
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01 (30:49):
I do yeah, we did we go through that phase, and I was
just like, all right, like I'm afucking feral cat in heat right
now.
I just need to fuck everybody.
At some point you realize, oh,like that's I don't know, a
little bit less satisfying as itonce was.
What do you look for in like a alover um when it comes to like
(31:10):
great sex?
SPEAKER_02 (31:13):
Um I think for me, like I need to be selfish.
They need to be putting mypleasure first.
SPEAKER_00 (31:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (31:24):
Um, yeah, I don't want a guy that's just using me.
I I want I want them to bemaking sure that I'm having a
great time, you know, abovetheir great time.
They're still gonna have a greattime regardless, but yeah, they
need to be focused on me andmaking sure I'm having lots of
orgasms and yeah.
Yeah, they're not just comingquickly.
(31:46):
Yes.
unknown (31:47):
I love that.
SPEAKER_01 (31:48):
Okay, and so I have talked a lot on the show about
black guys and why I find themso fucking hot, so sexy, and
just like that's definitely abig part of my sexuality when it
comes to preference for PIV sex.
But like, um what is what doesit for you?
How come black guys are yourthing?
SPEAKER_02 (32:10):
I haven't actually been asked this for a while.
Um, so I guess there's there's aa whole bunch of things.
Like obviously, aesthetically,like I don't I just find white
guys just so that's just Iappreciate that I am white, but
I just find the paleness reallyunattractive.
I don't know.
It's just a bit sickly and justit doesn't like make me think I
(32:35):
I don't know, it doesn't turn meon.
Um and then obviously not allblack guys, but a lot of black
guys are just more athletic, youknow, just strong, like they
just genetically some can bemore I just really like that
athletic kind of build.
(32:56):
Um and uh yeah, obviously, alsoon average they potentially have
larger penises than the averagewhite guy.
Not all there are obviouslyoutlayers outlayers on both
sides, but yeah, that also ticksa lot of boxes for me.
And then also just theirattitude, like they just not
again, not all, but the mostguys I find just I'm like quite
(33:21):
a strong woman, and I I veryrarely find a white guy that can
handle that or that isn't that'sintimidate like they they're
generally quite intimidated bythat or threatened by that, and
I just find black guys aren'tintimidated by it at all.
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_01 (33:37):
In general, yeah, there's a thing, there's
definitely a thing.
SPEAKER_02 (33:42):
Yeah, the something about the dark skin is just
fucking so beautiful, and likethe whole, like you said, the
attitude, there is this likevery cool, calm, collected kind
of it's I don't know if it's bigdick energy or if it's just
something, but it is something,and it's hot, like yeah, there's
(34:04):
a confidence without them tryingtoo hard, like they can just
walk into a room and just own itwithout even saying anything,
like yes, and the athletes.
SPEAKER_01 (34:12):
Oh, the athletes, fuck.
Oh, just yeah, it's a I can'tlike I went and watched an
American football game, youknow, like not soccer, but
American football game.
I did all I did that only oncebecause I was just like so horny
out.
I can't watch these guys, likethey're not just the players,
(34:35):
but all these fucking big blackguys on the sidelines.
I was like, damn, and of course,I'm here in Canada, we have like
barely any of those guys here.
So I was literally just like,can I fuck the whole team right
now?
Like, I cannot sit here.
I was squirming in my seat, itwas like crazy.
Yes, and then I I was actuallyon a date with a cuck, actually,
(34:59):
when we went and watched this.
SPEAKER_02 (35:01):
Oh, I'm sure he was loving that then.
SPEAKER_01 (35:04):
I was like, this is the best date ever, but only if
I get to take the team home.
Like, come on.
Yes, the whole team.
Yeah, I ended, I ended upactually pegging that cuck when
we got back to his apartmentbecause I was just like, I was
fired up.
SPEAKER_00 (35:19):
I was it was too much.
SPEAKER_01 (35:21):
But yeah, the athletes, they have a sweet spot
for me.
I just fucking I can't getenough of them.
SPEAKER_00 (35:27):
Yeah, so good.
SPEAKER_01 (35:28):
Yeah, so I feel you on that.
Anyway, I'm totally distracted.
Don't know what I was gonna askyou next.
Um, okay, so I've wanted to Iwanna ask you about like being
turned on with black guys is isdefinitely that's a thing.
(35:48):
Do do cucks or the cuckmentality, or I should just say
this like submissive, like hot,submissive white guys turn you
on in a different way?
Is there something about thoseguys that is not just endearing,
but like I don't know, exexciting to you at all or no?
SPEAKER_02 (36:09):
Yeah, yeah.
I think I I I don't know.
I get off, I guess, on like thethe power a little bit and just
like I am really like intohumiliation and stuff, and and
if someone else is getting offon that, then yeah, that's
that's a huge turn on for me.
I uh yeah, I love I love kind ofjust making them squirm and
(36:30):
yeah, their just like desire toplease and their eagerness and
just yeah, and it's like thatthat power you kind of have is a
huge turn on.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:39):
Because like I don't know about you, but I've had a
ton of people asking me over theyears, like, oh, well, if you
love to fuck black guys so much,why don't you just date a black
guy and just be with black guys?
Like, and I'm like, it'sdifficult for me to explain in a
way that they understand that,like, yeah, that's one part of
it, but there's like this otherpart with cucks that is like
really exciting for me andenjoyable for me, believe it or
(37:02):
not, you know?
Yeah, and I don't know if thatjust goes back to the point, the
the point I made earlier wherelike you know, cucks are really
dick focused.
They think that other guys'bigger dicks are just magic and
like I mean, they are to someextent.
SPEAKER_02 (37:17):
They do.
SPEAKER_01 (37:19):
I love Taylor Swift's new song Wood, where she
talks about getting dickmatizedby big dick.
I was like, Taylor! Oh I've notheard it.
I must go listen.
Oh, you have to listen to it.
She's oh my god, it's so I waslike, Oh, I feel you, girl.
Like she's dating a footballplayer.
Like, I fucking feel you rightnow.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:38):
But I feel like there there aren't enough women
sort of saying, like, you know,size does matter.
Yeah.
Like not in all contexts, butyeah, if if we're talking about
penetrative sex, it does matter.
So some women.
SPEAKER_01 (37:53):
Yeah, I know.
I do, I get maybe like maybe forwomen who their an their anatomy
is built for smaller guys, andthen like I get it.
Like, because there's some womenwho really cannot handle that
feeling of being stretched orthat feeling of him like bumping
up against your service, theycervix, they can't handle that.
(38:15):
Uh so I yeah, I get that forthem, like this yeah, maybe size
matters in that it needs to besmaller for them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Like for all those women thatlive in the Asian countries that
rank near like the bottom ofdick size, I'm assuming that you
know they've evolved into likehaving small pussies or
something like that.
Like there has to be something.
SPEAKER_02 (38:36):
I hope so for this.
SPEAKER_01 (38:37):
I know, right?
Yeah, there has to be somethingto it, but I don't know.
I think I was just definitelyborn with big pussy energy, and
that's all I need.
So it sounds like you as well.
Yeah, so what um I know that inthe past you you said you've
you've had a cuck boyfriend andand are I alpha cuck boyfriend,
(39:00):
and you know, you guys playedaround with that and you got
really into that and stuff likethat.
And I know that you've doneyou've explored a lot of
people's cuckled fantasies andstuff like that.
Is there a cuckled, I don't wantto say scene, but scenario or
fantasy or something like thatthat really gets you where
you're just like that is thehottest.
(39:21):
Because like for me, yeah, II've talked about this on the
show before.
I'm really want a BBC gangbangon my wet wedding night.
That's like my thing.
Do you have something like thatwhere you're like, this is what
I really want or what I reallylike?
SPEAKER_02 (39:35):
Yeah, I guess because I film so much, I kind
of just did everything.
Like I uh um I did all the crazygangbangs.
Like um, I was out at Exotica inNew Jersey, I don't know, maybe
four or five years ago.
Maybe five.
Um and um we just ended uphaving like a crazy huge like
(39:58):
hotel room orgy with like abunch of guys, and my cuck at
the time was a with the camera.
Like a good cuck.
Um yeah, and it was just likethis crazy, like sweaty, like it
went on for hours and hours.
Like, yeah, it was it was crazyfun and really, really hot.
And uh yeah.
Um was it planned?
SPEAKER_01 (40:21):
Or just c came together where you were like,
all right, let's it kind of cametogether.
SPEAKER_02 (40:24):
It was, yeah, it wasn't a bad way in advancement.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (40:28):
Those spontaneous um times for me have been the best.
So I like because and and I th Ithink cucks hate that because
they they want they plan theshit out in their minds like for
years.
SPEAKER_02 (40:41):
Oh yeah, yeah.
They just fantasize about itover and over again, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (40:44):
What do you think are like the most common fan
cuckled fantasies that you havecome across?
Because I'm sure that you'veheard them all from lots of guys
over the years.
SPEAKER_02 (40:55):
Oh, I found them so diverse, like they just they're
so diverse.
Um is there a theme that you seeoften?
No, it honestly can be likeanything from like wanting like
syssification and like all thatkind of stuff, all the way
(41:18):
through to like people that havebeen cheated on that have then
like uh fetishized that as likea way of coping with things, I
guess.
And then, you know, you haveyeah, yeah, like really taboo
stuff about like the mums andtheir sisters that they want to
see um, you know, with alphablack guys and all this kind of
(41:43):
stuff.
So yeah, it's so diverse.
I'm not even sure there's like areally I'll need to go through
all my submissions and see ifthere's a recurring theme, but
honestly, like the diversityblows my mind sometimes.
It's yeah crazy.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (41:56):
Okay, so how did you start to become okay with
humiliation?
This is uh something that a lotof women struggle with.
I did in the beginning.
I was like, this feels so weird,like it feels so disingenuous.
And um, was that something thatyou struggled with, or did it
just totally come naturally toyou?
SPEAKER_02 (42:17):
Yeah, I think I'm naturally quite like I don't
really have a filter and uh uhyeah, I quite often yeah, think
don't what's the expression?
Think, don't think before Ispeak.
So yeah, maybe just don't evenconsider uh how someone might
react to me.
(42:38):
Me giving my opinion onsomething.
So uh yeah, I think it just camequite naturally.
And obviously, if someone elseis really getting off on it,
then that kind of dispers me oneven more.
Um but sometimes if they're not,I just find that even more
funny.
If they're like offended or likepissed off.
Yeah.
Because sometimes if I'm filmingcontent, like um, like I have
(43:03):
like a filming slave that likeis is just there to kind of do
as I need for the the content.
I prefer it if it's someone thatI I have like a relationship
with and but occasionally likeyou just need to get something
shot.
And yeah, I'll be like, oh,we're gonna do SPH, and they're
like, oh, oh, okay.
And that they're maybe not thatinto SPH.
(43:24):
And I'm like, can I do it?
And they're like, yeah, okay.
Um, but yeah, they're they'renot that into it.
And I'm like, it's sorry, youryour penis is fine.
SPEAKER_00 (43:35):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01 (43:36):
Please don't cry yourself to sleep.
Yeah, the SPH thing was thefirst the first thing that I was
able to get into because Iwasn't lying.
Like what I said.
Exactly, yeah, yeah.
So it felt like because yeah,before that it was it felt weird
and stuff like that to saysomething to somebody that was
(43:57):
humiliating, but then yeah, whenI had to comment on this his
size, I'd be like, well, it'snot that big.
So yeah.
I mean, like, that's just thehonest truth.
So that was a turning point forme to be able to be more
comfortable with it.
I wish that it just camenaturally for me, like it did
for you.
I wish that I could just, but Istruggled with it for like a
(44:21):
good two or three years where Idid it, but it didn't feel like
normal.
Now it just feels like normal.
SPEAKER_02 (44:29):
But yeah, yeah.
But I think as women, we'reprobably we're kind of made to
feel like we have to protectmen's egos and like we have to
so to go against that, it doesfeel quite unnatural.
But then when we let go of it,it's just like, oh, this feels
great.
SPEAKER_01 (44:47):
Yeah, and when like you like you said, like when he
gets off on it and you can seethat he's like really into it.
I mean, when you see how much itturns on the guy when you tell
him his dick is not big enough,I'm like, damn, that's like a
real trick.
It's like leaking and dribblingeverywhere.
Yes.
I was like, holy shit, really?
(45:08):
Just because I said that onething?
Like, wow, okay, I can play thisgame.
This will be fun.
Yeah, exactly.
unknown (45:13):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (45:15):
Okay, there's one thing I have to talk to you
about.
I found this on your uh website,your academy website, and we
have to talk about this becausethis is like the most awesome
thing I have read in a longtime.
For those of you guys who arelistening right now, I have been
(45:35):
thinking about this whole thingfor years, and she went and put
it into words, and I fuckAdrena.
This is so good.
Okay, it's this is so good.
Okay, it's it's called red pillversus cuck, why one is
miserable and the other worshipsme happily.
(45:56):
Um, it's like I've always feltthat like cucks are the opposite
of incels, they turn this thingthat they both have in common
into two totally differentthings.
And so, okay, I'm just gonnaread a little bit about of this.
SPEAKER_02 (46:12):
Okay, it was a while ago.
I wrote it.
I can't remember what's in it.
Oh, this is so good.
SPEAKER_01 (46:15):
Okay, you guys listen up.
Okay, okay.
It's called The HiddenSubmission of Red Pill slash
incels.
Let's call it what it is.
Incels and red pill typesalready live in a submissive
dynamic.
They just do it badly.
They spend their lives obsessingover women.
The in their entire worldviewrevolves around controlling,
(46:36):
managing, and reacting to femalepower.
They'll work tirelessly toimpress women while pretending
it's about dominance.
They pay for dates and socialrules and tie their worth to
external validation from women.
So true.
You said sounds familiar.
Get this, listen to this.
(46:56):
It's it's the bitter cousin ofcockolding, service without the
reward.
SPEAKER_02 (47:05):
But it's so true.
SPEAKER_01 (47:07):
It is, and then you go on to say red pill men can't
uh they call it alpha maleenergy.
I call it performativesubmission without consent.
They live in constant anxiety,striving to win women's approval
through outdated gender scriptswhile seething in resentment
when it doesn't work.
(47:29):
Yeah.
I read this, I was like, this isthe best fucking thing I've ever
read because it is so true.
It's so true.
SPEAKER_02 (47:39):
Yeah.
The cucks, it just they're sohappy, and then yeah, they're
the the incels are yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (47:46):
So you go on to say cuckles are honest about what
they are.
Um, you said they don't hidebehind bravado or rage, they
submit fully, and in return,they gain clarity, peace, and
structure.
Uh, you said my cucks choose toserve, to watch, to worship.
They know they can't competewith true alpha bull.
(48:07):
Uh and instead of spiraling intoinsecurity, they find
fulfillment in embracing theirrole.
I admire that.
That's what you said.
I admire that.
It takes courage to bevulnerable, it takes strength to
reject toxic masculinity andsay, this is who I am.
My cucks are brave enough tolean into their softer,
nurturing side and offerdevotion instead of domination.
(48:30):
Adrena.
I know I love this so much.
I read that, I was like, oh mygod, I want to cry.
Like, that is like beautiful.
I've this yeah, this is exactlywhat I've been trying to say for
years on this podcast, and youjust nailed it.
I was like, oh my god.
(48:51):
Thank you.
You said in a world where menare told to be stoic,
aggressive, and emotionallyavailable, my cucks are quietly
radical.
They are present, emotionallyintelligent, and unafraid to
show submission as a form ofdeep connection.
Oh my god.
Seriously, that makes meemotional.
(49:12):
I love this.
I love what you wrote.
I love that you called it outand then you said who's actually
happier?
Cucks are fucking happy andjoyous, and the red pill guys
are just raging.
So, what was your reaction?
Did you get any reaction fromthat?
SPEAKER_02 (49:29):
No, unfortunately not.
I I kind of did deliberatelypost it it to kind of I
expected, I was I was waitingfor the the rage, and uh yeah,
it did not happen.
Um but maybe it will now nowthat it's now not yet.
Not that you've but you've putit back up.
But yeah, like that like I'm notlying.
That's it's I think it all andalso I I hope that it helps
(49:53):
cucks kind of come to terms withyou know, it's not a shameful
thing and that it's yeah, it's ahealthy way of yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (50:03):
What you talked about earlier where um with the
like the Alpha Cuk thing whereguys are kind of afraid to re
let go of those they're kind ofgrasping at those little strings
of power to because they'reafraid of what might happen or
what that means if they yeah,they let that go.
(50:24):
And um and and then there's meand there's you saying like just
let it go and have the courageand the bravery to do that.
What's on the other side, if youlean into that, is so fucking
worth it.
Like the payoff is amazing, likefor both of us, you know?
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
(50:44):
Yeah, but just to be able tohave that, oh my gosh, I just I
love the fact that you wrotethat.
I love that you put it outthere, and oh my god, that's
like my new favorite thing.
Um, maybe I could put it on myblog.
Can I put can I post it on myblog?
SPEAKER_02 (50:58):
Of course, yeah, yeah, I'd love that.
SPEAKER_01 (51:00):
Okay, I have to put that on there.
That would be so amazing.
So for those of you who arelistening, I will post a link to
this blog post um in today'sepisode description because it
is just like fucking fantastic.
I absolutely love it so much.
Thank you.
Okay, now before we wrap thisup, I want to ask you about this
(51:21):
podcast that you used to have.
Um, it was it called the Size uhSize Queen Society?
SPEAKER_02 (51:28):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (51:29):
I saw a clip of it and it's so good.
What was it about?
SPEAKER_02 (51:34):
So I guess as I as we touched on briefly earlier,
like there are just women thatlove big dick.
And um I kind of just wanted toempower more women to just kind
of be okay with that and todiscuss it.
And and uh so yeah, I startedthis podcast.
Um, and I did, I think, 12episodes of it.
(51:56):
Um, and it was great just beingable to like talk really openly
about like our preferences andsome women preferred more girth,
some preferred more length, likethere was some some diversity in
there.
Um but yeah, like I used to filmit and post it on YouTube, and I
would get so much hate from menjust like completely denying our
(52:18):
experiences that like men withover a 10-inch penis just do not
exist, apparently.
But it just doesn't exist, andI'm like, but it but it does
though.
But if you need to tell yourselfto make you feel better, then
yeah, then go ahead.
Um, yeah, it just it got so muchhate, which I just found
hilarious.
Um, but I am actually gonnastart a new podcast.
(52:41):
Um, I'm hoping next month, um,as kind of like a side shoot to
the cuck academy, I think, um,where I want to have um the
couples that have, I thinkprobably the couples that have
done my cuckle confessionseries, um, and then just uh ask
(53:02):
them questions about like howthey how they got into it, like
who broke the ice, like likethat kind of stuff, because I'm
sure as you says, you get askedthe same three questions all the
time, and as do I, and everyonealways wants to know like how,
how.
Yes.
So I figure if I have couplesanswering those questions, and
it's different for everybody.
So I just think it'd be reallycool to kind of get those
(53:24):
stories and and uh yeah, see howthat goes.
So yeah, hopefully launchingthat next month, but we'll see.
I've got a lot of other stuffgoing on.
SPEAKER_01 (53:32):
So yeah, it's it's in the pipeline.
You have a lot of stuff that youdo and have done, and I admire
that about you.
It's amazing.
But what I really love mostabout you is that this is done
from a like all of this workthat you've done is done from a
place of wanting to help people.
And I I love that about you andand and wanting to make the this
lifestyle, this type ofrelationship cuckolding, um,
(53:56):
more mainstream, morenormalized, more less um
misunderstood.
So I really appreciate thatabout you.
Um okay, is any last thoughts orlast words before we wrap up the
show today?
Oh.
There's no shame in cuckolding.
Yes.
(54:17):
Louder for those in the back.
Like that needs to be repeated,like you know, so many times.
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, yeah.
We can't say that enough, that'sfor sure.
Yeah.
Um, thank you so much, Adrina,for being on the show.
I will have all of your links touh all of your projects and your
uh your sites on the show notesfor today's episode.
(54:39):
It's been such a pleasuregetting to know you, and thank
you again to Kai forrecommending you as a guest on
the show.
It's been so much fun.
Thank you.
That's gonna be it for today'sepisode.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:26):
Let's go.
SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
Welcome to the show, everyone.
I'm your host, Venus.
Thanks for joining me today.
Today I have Adrina Wintersjoining me on the show, and
she's so awesome.
You guys are gonna love her.
I've been wanting to have her onas a guest for so long.
And uh it was one of mylisteners who recommended her as
a guest for today.
(00:48):
And uh wow, she is just awesome.
I love her to pieces, she'samazing.
I'm gonna have all of her linksin the show notes for today, so
make sure you check them outbecause she is a boss.
Like she's got a lot of projectsthat she's got going on, which
are amazing, and she wrote themost epic blog post that I have
read in a very, very long time.
(01:11):
So you have to check it out.
Um, before we jump into it, youhave may have noticed that this
episode is a couple of weekslate.
This is the first time in fiveyears that I did not get an
episode out in time.
(01:33):
And um, I don't know why thatbothers me so much because I'm
my own boss, but it does.
And I it's just I've been very,you know, strict about the
schedule of when I put outepisodes, and I've never, ever,
ever been late until now.
So it's just bugging me a littlebit.
But I had a family member passaway suddenly, and to say it was
(01:57):
devastating was would be anunderstatement.
And for those of you who havelost someone close to you, you
know what I'm talking about.
Um grief, no matter how much youtry to mentally prepare yourself
for the day the day that yourparent passes away, uh it's not
(02:17):
ever something that you canreally deal with when it
happens, because it was sooverwhelming for me, and I I
like couldn't function and stillcan't very well.
Um, grief is a fucking powerfulthing, and I just couldn't
(02:39):
function.
There was a solid week where Ijust I could not function.
I went out to the grocery store,I found myself in tears in the
middle of the grocery aisle, andI was like, I I probably
shouldn't be out in public rightnow.
So it was hard to say it washard was you know, it was that's
(03:01):
not saying enough.
It was difficult, and I'm stillworking through it, but man, I I
just I I could not function.
It reminds me of about a decadeago when the cuck boyfriend that
I was dating um passed away, andit was like just sudden, it was
(03:24):
sudden, not as sudden, but itwas sudden.
It was a rapid decline in hishealth, and uh, and it was just
not something that I could dealwith very well, and I I was able
to take a break from everythingfor quite a while back then, and
this time I feel like just notable to take as much of a break.
(03:46):
Um, and I so I'm still workingthrough it, and I just want to
say a big shout out to everybodyout there who is in my circle
that just helped me through thattime.
Special shout out to DocChocolate, who he's been through
this, he went through thisrecently, and uh he knows what
(04:08):
it's feels like what it feelslike to to be where I've where
I'm at.
And so thank you so much to DocChocolate because I I I honestly
couldn't do this without you andall of the rest of my friends
who've helped me through thispretty fucking shitty time.
Now, before we jump into thisepisode with Adrena, I hope uh
(04:29):
you can all join me on Tuesday,October 14th.
I'm doing a live chat in theQueen's Quarters community, and
we're gonna be talking about howto get your wife into
interracial cuckolding.
The last uh live chat I did towhere we talked about how to get
your wife into cuckolding um andhad some great conversations
around that, around that.
(04:50):
Crystal Welch joined me in uhfor that one.
This one we're gonna talk aboutexactly how to get her into
black eyes.
So I got this question all thetime.
I know there's a lot of guys outthere, a lot of cucks out there
who are like really, reallystruggling with this one and
want to see this happen.
And so you're looking for adviceeverywhere online.
(05:11):
This is gonna be a chat for youguys.
Let's talk about it, let's comeup with some ideas, stories,
challenges, tips, advice,whatever.
It's live at 1 p.m.
Pacific, that's 4 p.m.
Eastern, and that's gonna beOctober 14th.
And it is free to join the uhlimited access to the Queen's
(05:32):
Quarters community.
I will put the link for theQueen's Quarters event in the
show notes for today.
All right, that's it forannouncements.
Let's jump into this episodewith Adrina.
SPEAKER_00 (05:46):
Here we go.
SPEAKER_01 (05:54):
All right, joining me on the show.
I have a fantastic guest fortoday.
I'm super excited about this.
I have Adrena Winters on theshow.
She is a FemDom content creator,author, and educator with over a
decade of lived experience inthe cuckolding lifestyle.
She's the founder of the CuckAcademy and the author of So,
(06:16):
You Wanna Be a Cuckold.
Her popular video series,Cuckold Confessions, blends real
life fantasies with eroticstorytelling.
Adrena has been featureddiscussing cuckolding in Vice,
The Sun, and the New York Postand continues to be a leading
voice in making cuckolding bothmainstream and meaningful.
Adrina, welcome to the show.
(06:37):
Thank you so much for being ontoday.
SPEAKER_02 (06:40):
Thank you so much for inviting me on.
I'm so excited for this.
SPEAKER_01 (06:44):
Yeah, this is gonna be great.
I want to do a special shout outto Kai.
Uh, Kai is a listener of theshow, and he emailed me and he
said, You have to have Adrena onthe show.
So, shout out to Kai.
Thank you, Kai.
Yeah, I've been, I've I've heardyour name in the cuckolding
sphere over the last severalyears.
(07:05):
And so I know that you have alot of fans out there.
You have a lot of people who uhwho are you know big, big
supporters of of what it is thatyou do.
Uh what for those of you who arelistening, this is for for you.
What is your story, Adrena?
How did you come about to bethis like cuckledress, queen of
(07:26):
spades, cuckledress in thesphere?
SPEAKER_02 (07:29):
Yeah, so I guess it was completely unintentional.
I started doing mainstream pornin my early 20s.
And without realizing it orhaving no intention uh to engage
in it, I was just attracting menin my personal life that got off
(07:49):
on me being with other men,which was helpful because that
was my job at the time was to gooff and have sex on camera with
other men.
So yeah, I just in my early 20s,that was just the the guys that
I was attracting to kind of havemy per personal and private
relationships with were justguys that really liked that.
And I guess I didn't even knowit was car coding at the time.
(08:11):
I just was like, oh, this thisis helpful because you know,
this is my job, so you kind ofgotta accept it or you know,
it's not gonna work out.
So um, and then um I guess thenI guess the the main turning
point was uh I had I was in arelationship with a guy who said
(08:36):
he was okay with me doing pornand then very clearly wasn't.
And I was chatting to um acamera guy that I used to shoot
with a lot um about like howhard it was, like you know,
working a porn and a guy sayingthey're okay with it and then
they're not actually okay withit.
And um he was just like, well,I'd be okay with it.
(08:57):
And um yeah, we kind of we endedup in like a really long-term
relationship.
He was a camera guy, um, andmassively into cuckolding.
Um, and um yeah, so we juststarted filming.
Well, he he was just filminglike hook hookups that like like
real life cuckolding scenarios,I guess.
Like he was the cook filming,and I was, you know, having sex
(09:22):
with other guys, and he wasfilming it.
And it was really fun becauselike I could talk to camera like
exactly as I because he wasbehind the camera, so I was just
like talking to him and and umthat was really fun.
Um unfortunately we did break upuh four or five years ago now,
but I guess that's what reallykind of cemented me kind of
(09:42):
really honing in on accordingcontent.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (09:46):
Yeah, it's amazing how that kind of career when
you're a content creator canreally attract cacks.
They're like, um that's right upmy alley.
Thanks.
Yes.
And I love how when you werefilming, it felt like legit
because it was your boyfriendbehind the camera.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That you were able to reallyjust like get into it.
(10:08):
Did you really know whatcuckolding, like, how did you
find out what cuckoldingactually was when you were like
I guess it was that partner whowas really like, yeah, like this
is what I am, this is this iswhat I like.
SPEAKER_02 (10:20):
And yeah, we'd we'd kind of go to uh events and
parties together, and yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:26):
Was he more like the stag type of cuckold, or was he
like, did he like the teasing?
SPEAKER_02 (10:33):
Uh yeah, yeah.
I don't know if I'm divorgingtoo much information, but he
liked, he kind of coined, Idon't think he did coin the
term, I've seen it around, buthe liked the term alpha cuck.
Okay, okay.
So yeah.
Um but but like, yeah, I feel inreality he really did like the
humiliation and that.
I think it's just unfortunatelythere's so much shame around
(10:53):
cuck holding, and I think a lotof guys struggle to just fully
just embrace being a cuck, andthey're kind of just like, no,
I'm I'm not completely a cuck,um but I'm still a real man, and
yeah, so yeah, I know all aboutthat.
SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
That is a real fucking thing.
I and why do you think that is?
Is that they just like I don'tknow.
What what are your thoughts onit?
SPEAKER_02 (11:21):
I honestly think it's shame.
I think that there's so muchstigma around men that are into
cuckolding that you know they'reweak and they're pathetic and
they've got no no uh self-esteemand all all this kind of hor
like negative negativity thatguys worry that they'll just be
(11:42):
labeled with those things ifthey fully accept it.
That's what they are.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:48):
But for the guys who actually accept it, the ones who
get to the point of likeself-compassion and acceptance,
yeah.
It is amazing.
Like they are the best partners.
SPEAKER_02 (12:00):
Yes.
So I'm always I'm like, you justneed to accept it and just
embrace it, and then you'll beso much happier.
SPEAKER_01 (12:07):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Uh so what are you doing now?
Are so that was your start?
Uh how did you get into whatyou're doing now?
SPEAKER_02 (12:16):
So I guess I've still never really officially
announced it.
Um, but about three years agonow, I decided I wanted to stop
filming sex on camera.
Um, I just found I'd been doingit for 15 years, and I just felt
like I was becoming quiteperformative, and it was kind of
affecting my sex life in myprivate life because you kind of
(12:39):
testify until you're just goingthrough the motions, I guess.
And it it was really hard tosplit the the two.
So I was like, right, I need tomake a decision here.
And so yeah, I've stoppedfilming um my sex life.
Um, and that um it sort of justgave me more time to focus on
(13:00):
other avenues, and I get so manyguys reach out to me for like
advice and like education,really.
And I was just like, this, Ijust really feel like there's
such a need for like more moreinformation out there.
So I decided to write a a bookwhich I published earlier this
year.
Um, as you said, so you want tobe a cuckold, uh, which has been
going down really well.
(13:21):
And then I recorded that forAudible as well, and I just
released that last month, whichis really cool.
They can hear me reading it inmy British accent, which all the
American cups seem to love.
SPEAKER_00 (13:31):
Yes, yes.
It is hot, it's really hot.
I can see how that's a hawk, itis.
SPEAKER_02 (13:41):
And then um, yeah, then I I started the cuck
Academy Mostly as a blog.
Um and then I I was kind ofthinking about the different
stages that kind of cuckolds gothrough, and I've started kind
of building like some coursesand stuff to kind of help guys
kind of progress through thosestages.
(14:03):
So, first of all, kind ofworking through the kind of
shame that they may beassociating with it, and then
moving on to like how they mightactually be beneficial to a a
another partner and you knowwhat women actually want from
them and how to approach that,and then yeah, um, once they're
actually in a relationship andsome of the issues that they
(14:24):
might find from there.
So yeah, that's all reallyexciting.
I've just started aqualification in sexology, like
I'm such a geek.
So uh I'm like I really wantlike the the academic
background.
So like I really want to be ableto help people and give them
advice.
It's like actually likefactually and scientifically
helpful as well as just likefrom my own lived experiences.
(14:46):
I love that so much.
SPEAKER_01 (14:47):
I'm a I'm a total geek.
unknown (14:49):
I love it.
SPEAKER_01 (14:50):
I really am.
That's so you have a lot goingon.
I I love how you shifted fromone thing that wasn't feeling
fulfilling anymore for you intosomething where you could be
helpful for where there was areal need or is a real need.
I have a gazillion guys askingme for advice and a gazillion
(15:12):
guys asking the same threequestions over and over and over
again.
And so I get it.
Like there's a big, there's abig need for that.
Um, have you cracked the codefor guys dealing with their cuck
shame?
Like, because like I don't know.
I I haven't done your, I haven'tread through your through your
course or anything like that.
I do know somebody who has, andhe said it was really good and
(15:36):
um very um non-porny, very real.
SPEAKER_02 (15:39):
There's no porn, which I kind of worry about.
I don't know whether guys arelike expecting porn because
that's like my background.
But yeah, there's no porn.
There's there's there's nonudity, there's even the
language is really just likequite informative and yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:51):
So if guys are looking for a wank session,
that's not it, right?
Another one, no.
Right.
Um, but uh to be able to whatfor what you said with your cuck
academy course, like to to dealwith the big, the big thing,
which is the shame that a lot ofguys, if not nearly all guys,
deal with um when it comes tocuck holding.
(16:12):
Like, have you figured it outlike how to get these guys past
that?
SPEAKER_02 (16:18):
I hope so.
The feedback I get like it'slike my little morning routine
now is I I log on and I likeit's like a seven-day course,
and at the end of each lesson,they kind of have to fill out
like a bit of a reflection.
Um and um like honestly, I loveit.
I sit there with my coffee and Iread through their reflections
(16:39):
and I give them feedback onthem.
And it's just it's like itreally fills me with like so
much hope and optimism thatthese guys are really like
really want to address it andthey really want to change and
they're they're really taking iton board.
And yeah, it seems to behelping.
Maybe I need like a feedbackform afterwards, uh asking them
how much they felt felt ithelped.
But yeah, it seems to seems tobe helping.
SPEAKER_01 (17:01):
Yeah, the when I first started doing this show,
um, it was within the first yearthat I started to get a lot of
feedback from guys saying, youknow, you've helped me to accept
who I am and helped me to not,you know, loathe this side of
myself.
Yeah.
And I honestly did not fuckingeven know that there was this
like crushing level of shamethat so many guys were carrying.
(17:23):
But I also felt really happythat the show was helping them
in that way.
So I think it's fantastic thatthere's more resources uh out
there, like what you offer tofor guys to be able to work
through this.
Cause let's face it, like it isdebilitating for them.
It is debilitating, damaging fortheir relationships, potential
relationships.
(17:44):
So yeah, being able to getthrough that in whatever way,
shape or form, whatever journeythat is, whatever that looks
like, to be able to get throughit and come out on the other
side and be like the an amazingpartner.
Oh my god, worth it.
So um what else is in your cuckacademy courses?
SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
Um so I'm still building it actually.
Um, so yeah, it starts off withlike a quiz so that they can
kind of help identify kind ofwhat stage they're at.
And then yeah, stage one I'velaunched, um, and then stage two
I'm currently building, but thatwill be more about uh how to
approach getting into arelationship with someone.
(18:24):
And um it's not all about them,and they need to be need to be
thinking about what theirpartner wants and you know how
that how they can best be ofservice to her rather than just
their fantasies.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:38):
Okay, so what yeah, one of the other revelations
I've had over the years,actually very early on, was
realizing how male-drivencuckolding is.
Um yes, like it's entirely-citedto be on your show.
Yes, it's so it feels likeentirely male, like driven
through the male gaze and yeah,male consumption, and literally
(19:01):
feels like a lot of thesefantasies are crafted by men.
And I'm just like, where is theother lens in all of this?
Like, I feel do you you feel youfeel the same?
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
Why is that?
Why do you think that this is somale-driven?
And because it for a lot ofpeople don't know about
cuckolding, they're shockedabout that.
(19:22):
They think this is somethingthat should be driven by women.
SPEAKER_02 (19:26):
So, yeah, so that I think you need to hit the nail
on the head there.
I think just there are a lot ofwomen that aren't aware of it.
I think obviously women watchporn, but I think men are
introduced to the concept ofcuckolding through porn quite
often.
You know, they're just sort ofdown some rabbit hole on a tube
site or whatever, and they comeacross it and they're like, oh,
(19:47):
maybe this resonates with me.
And I don't think women do thatas much.
So I just I don't think they'reas aware.
And I have like loads of friendsthat are in um like consensual,
non-monogonous relationships oryou know, different poly
situations that just weren'taware of cuckooing.
And then I get chatting to themand they're like, Oh, yeah.
(20:07):
Oh, I think actually that's whatI want.
Um, so yeah, I just don't thinkthat many women are aware of it.
And then when they are, they'relike, Oh, this sounds amazing.
This is exactly what I need inmy life.
SPEAKER_01 (20:18):
Yeah, I agree.
There women are just notarriving at the cuckolding door
from the similar path as men ingeneral.
And no, the and it's the samething with me when it comes to
non-monogamous relationships.
I was in like the swingers'world as a like solo woman for a
decade until I actually heardabout cuckolding.
(20:39):
Like, how is that possible?
SPEAKER_02 (20:41):
Yeah, I hear that so much.
Like they kind of go down aswinging route and then and then
it's like, oh no, actually, Ijust want to cuck man.
SPEAKER_01 (20:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Interesting.
It uh it's very interesting.
Okay, so what um what is thiscuck confessions thing that you
uh were doing or at some point?
SPEAKER_02 (20:59):
Yeah, so I am still doing.
Um so like I said, I took a stepback from having sex on camera.
Um, but I kind of didn't want toretire entirely from filming
content because I love it andI've been doing it for so long.
Um, so um I thought it'd bereally cool to film real couples
um uh in different kind ofcuckolding scenarios.
(21:24):
And I the way I ended upapproaching it was to get my
fans to submit their favouritescenarios or fantasies, and then
I I used those um to to makescripts to then match up to the
couples that I think would begood for the series.
So yeah, I I have uh done stuffthat focuses on you know, buy
(21:48):
stuff or foot worship stuff, oryou know, really
service-oriented stuff, or moreum we did like a crazy gangbang,
like just all sorts of differentvariations of cuckoding, but
it's been really fun and it'sall been real couples that have
have done the scenes.
So there's it's really nice tohave that intimate like real
intimacy and connection in theso it's like real couples that
(22:11):
are acting out other people'sfantasies.
Yeah, but I deliberately matchthe fantasies to the right
couple, like niches and andkinks that that couple are into.
Yeah.
Is that hard?
I've had so many submitted to methat I kind of speak to the
couples first and sort of say,like what you guys into, and
(22:33):
then I sort of just search forkey terms in the submitted
things and sort of go, does thisone sound fun to you?
And they're like, Yeah, we loveit, let's do that.
So yeah, it's fun.
SPEAKER_01 (22:42):
Okay, good.
And so and those and thosevideos are you sell those
videos?
SPEAKER_02 (22:48):
Yeah, so I I have a website called the
cuckoldconfessions.com, um, butI also post them on clips for
sale.
The one I just released lastweek is currently number one on
Clips for Sale in the cuckordingcategory.
So yeah, they seem reallypopular.
People seem to love it.
I thought it'd be weird me justlike third wheeling like in a
like a random couple, but no,people seem to love it.
SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
So oh my god, this is so cool.
So what do you do when they'redo when the couple's like doing
their thing and stuff like areyou just So I think what's
resonating, I don't know, noone's told me, but I think what
people like is I kind of focuson the cuck.
SPEAKER_02 (23:24):
So like the wife will be, you know, with her
lover, and then I'll be with thecuck, sort of just like making
sure it's being useful and likenot just sitting in the corner
looking.
You're like the facilitator,right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's really fun.
I love it.
SPEAKER_00 (23:41):
Oh my god, that actually sounds good.
SPEAKER_02 (23:46):
I I would love that.
unknown (23:48):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (23:50):
That's so creative.
I love that you came up withthat too, because it's a way of
of for these people to indulgein their fantasies, um, and then
as a way for these couples tolike have fun together, and then
for you to still be involved inthere and facilitating and it's
hot.
SPEAKER_02 (24:07):
Yeah.
Well, the what what the cuck'ssaying, because all of them are
like already on OnlyFans, likedo it doing content.
Yeah.
But usually the cuck is the onedoing the filming.
So he's like, this is so nice.
I don't have to think aboutanything.
I can just be like in themoment.
Like I don't have to think aboutwhat I need to do, or if I'm
getting the camera angled oranything, like I can just like
let go, which is really fun.
Yeah, it's good.
SPEAKER_01 (24:27):
Oh my gosh, I love that.
So how long have you been doingthat for now?
SPEAKER_02 (24:31):
Um, I've been releasing one a month and I've
just released the seventh one.
So yeah, seven months.
SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
Oh, that's so great.
And I'm I'm glad that it's doingwell.
Number one for for the video youjust put out, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
Yeah.
Yeah, I really wasn't sure howit would work.
I thought people would justthink it's a bit like just not
get the concept, but yeah, itseems seems to be working.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:54):
Well, there's one thing about cucks when they are
just totally imaginative, likethey can get right into shit.
Like you you put the concept outthere and they'd be like running
with it.
unknown (25:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:07):
No one's more eager and imaginative than cucks.
They are they are it.
Yes.
I'm sorry for it as well.
It's great.
Um, and so someone did say thatyou are into black eyes or queen
of spades.
Is that correct?
Do you you Yes, yes, I I evenhave the tattoo.
SPEAKER_02 (25:24):
Yeah.
I love it.
SPEAKER_01 (25:27):
How long have you had the tattoo for?
She's pointing to her wrist.
For those of you who are notwatching the video, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (25:34):
Yeah, I have a little spade tattoo on my wrist.
Um, so oh, I don't know.
I wrote a whole blog post aboutit because I'm terrible at
remembering dates.
So I like went through all thedates.
I want to say 2017.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (25:49):
So quite a long time.
Um Has anyone asked you aboutit?
Uh, who's seen it?
Like out in the water?
SPEAKER_02 (25:55):
No, I guess it's not like shaded in, so it's quite
subtle.
So I guess you kind of have toknow to kind of know.
Um but yeah, it's um yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
So are so you just like if we are you sh is it just
your lovers that are black, ordo you date black men or or
what?
SPEAKER_02 (26:15):
Yeah, so I've been like black only since 2017.
Um, with one exception, I gotbooked by Brazzers to do a
scene, and they specificallymade it a cuckolding scene, and
I was like, I don't feel like Ican turn it down because it's I
I'm so keen to make cuck holdinglike more mainstream, and like
(26:36):
Brazzers was a huge studio, andthe fact that they wanted to do
a cuckolding scene, I was like,I need to do this.
Um, but yeah, you don't reallyget to choose who you film with.
So I filmed with Danny D, um,who's like a very skinny white
dude.
Oh.
I'm not gonna giant penis, huge,huge penis, but yeah, absolutely
not my type.
(26:56):
Uh but Isaac, I'm doing it fortalk a little bit.
You're like giving yourself apep talk.
I can do this, I can do this.
SPEAKER_00 (27:05):
I got you.
SPEAKER_02 (27:07):
So he's the only exception uh in like the last
however many years that is, Iguess almost a decade now.
Uh yeah, he's he's the onlyexception.
At least he had a big dick.
That's good.
Yeah, it's huge, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (27:18):
Okay.
And so you're you're a sizequeen, right?
That's what I've heard.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Um and so have you always been asize queen your whole life?
SPEAKER_02 (27:28):
So when people ask me that, I like to respond with
my first boyfriend's nicknamefor his penis was Mr.
Porky.
Um because it was just like uhgirthy and long.
Like, yeah.
So I just I I just I started outthat way, like, and I just yeah,
was it I guess I just never wentback.
SPEAKER_01 (27:51):
I know.
I was the same way my firstlong-term boyfriend was fucking
huge.
And I didn't realize it at thetime.
I just thought everyone wouldhave to do it.
No, exactly.
It's not until you I we broke upand I fucked some other guy and
I was like, uh, what is this?
SPEAKER_00 (28:07):
Yeah, I can relate.
SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
Then you're like, oh, well, I guess there is a big
difference in guys.
So yeah, I get it.
I totally get it.
So what is like the ideal, doyou have like an ideal size uh
that works for you?
SPEAKER_02 (28:23):
And like Yeah, so like eight inches, like a set
seven's okay, but like eight ormore, or yeah, yeah.
Probably not less than seven.
I mean, yeah, yeah.
Five's average, right?
And I'm like, no.
SPEAKER_01 (28:38):
Yeah, I was looking, I was looking at these um posted
something on my socials theother day about like the
countries that have the biggestdicks, and it was so funny that
the US is like way the fuck downin like 84 out of 100 or
something.
Ridiculous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And this said the average isfive point something in the US.
Like, oh, those poor guys.
(28:59):
Yeah, that would be too small.
The UK is not much better.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's your what's yours?
I'm probably about the same asyou.
Um, I think there's a there is athreshold where it's just it
gets to be so such a small sizethat I it doesn't hit the spots
that I need it to hit.
And so exactly I just feel likeit's it's very boring sex
(29:22):
because like I just can't, Idon't get that same sensation
that I would normally get with aguy who is yeah bigger.
Having said that though, like Idon't know about you, but I
really do enjoy like receivingpussy worship.
I really enjoy lots of otherstuff, not just PIV sex.
So I think it like cucks getobsessed over like the dick in
(29:43):
pussy sex and stuff like that.
But yeah, there's so much otherstuff around that that and
that's where I think cucks aregreat because they can, even if
they are lacking in size, theycan make up for it in lots of
other ways.
SPEAKER_02 (29:55):
Oh, other ways, yeah.
A lot of them are very good withtheir mouth, as they should be,
yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They kind of have they'velearned that they need to
compensate in other ways.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
Yeah.
And I love them for that.
Like just like you know, justrecognizing, okay, like I might
not be everything in thatdepartment, but I think cucks
are just amazing people just forfor that part of it, realizing
that they're they they don'tthey can't be everything and
giving her that gift.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Um, okay, and so like do youhave like do you enjoy having
(30:28):
like a lot of black guys thatyou see uh as lovers, or is it
just like a few here and there?
SPEAKER_02 (30:36):
Yeah, I guess quality over quantity, I guess.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:41):
I hear that a lot.
Like I used to fuck any anydude.
Like I used to just be like,whatever.
SPEAKER_00 (30:47):
I think we all have that phase.
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01 (30:49):
I do yeah, we did we go through that phase, and I was
just like, all right, like I'm afucking feral cat in heat right
now.
I just need to fuck everybody.
At some point you realize, oh,like that's I don't know, a
little bit less satisfying as itonce was.
What do you look for in like a alover um when it comes to like
(31:10):
great sex?
SPEAKER_02 (31:13):
Um I think for me, like I need to be selfish.
They need to be putting mypleasure first.
SPEAKER_00 (31:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (31:24):
Um, yeah, I don't want a guy that's just using me.
I I want I want them to bemaking sure that I'm having a
great time, you know, abovetheir great time.
They're still gonna have a greattime regardless, but yeah, they
need to be focused on me andmaking sure I'm having lots of
orgasms and yeah.
Yeah, they're not just comingquickly.
(31:46):
Yes.
unknown (31:47):
I love that.
SPEAKER_01 (31:48):
Okay, and so I have talked a lot on the show about
black guys and why I find themso fucking hot, so sexy, and
just like that's definitely abig part of my sexuality when it
comes to preference for PIV sex.
But like, um what is what doesit for you?
How come black guys are yourthing?
SPEAKER_02 (32:10):
I haven't actually been asked this for a while.
Um, so I guess there's there's aa whole bunch of things.
Like obviously, aesthetically,like I don't I just find white
guys just so that's just Iappreciate that I am white, but
I just find the paleness reallyunattractive.
I don't know.
It's just a bit sickly and justit doesn't like make me think I
(32:35):
I don't know, it doesn't turn meon.
Um and then obviously not allblack guys, but a lot of black
guys are just more athletic, youknow, just strong, like they
just genetically some can bemore I just really like that
athletic kind of build.
(32:56):
Um and uh yeah, obviously, alsoon average they potentially have
larger penises than the averagewhite guy.
Not all there are obviouslyoutlayers outlayers on both
sides, but yeah, that also ticksa lot of boxes for me.
And then also just theirattitude, like they just not
again, not all, but the mostguys I find just I'm like quite
(33:21):
a strong woman, and I I veryrarely find a white guy that can
handle that or that isn't that'sintimidate like they they're
generally quite intimidated bythat or threatened by that, and
I just find black guys aren'tintimidated by it at all.
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_01 (33:37):
In general, yeah, there's a thing, there's
definitely a thing.
SPEAKER_02 (33:42):
Yeah, the something about the dark skin is just
fucking so beautiful, and likethe whole, like you said, the
attitude, there is this likevery cool, calm, collected kind
of it's I don't know if it's bigdick energy or if it's just
something, but it is something,and it's hot, like yeah, there's
(34:04):
a confidence without them tryingtoo hard, like they can just
walk into a room and just own itwithout even saying anything,
like yes, and the athletes.
SPEAKER_01 (34:12):
Oh, the athletes, fuck.
Oh, just yeah, it's a I can'tlike I went and watched an
American football game, youknow, like not soccer, but
American football game.
I did all I did that only oncebecause I was just like so horny
out.
I can't watch these guys, likethey're not just the players,
(34:35):
but all these fucking big blackguys on the sidelines.
I was like, damn, and of course,I'm here in Canada, we have like
barely any of those guys here.
So I was literally just like,can I fuck the whole team right
now?
Like, I cannot sit here.
I was squirming in my seat, itwas like crazy.
Yes, and then I I was actuallyon a date with a cuck, actually,
(34:59):
when we went and watched this.
SPEAKER_02 (35:01):
Oh, I'm sure he was loving that then.
SPEAKER_01 (35:04):
I was like, this is the best date ever, but only if
I get to take the team home.
Like, come on.
Yes, the whole team.
Yeah, I ended, I ended upactually pegging that cuck when
we got back to his apartmentbecause I was just like, I was
fired up.
SPEAKER_00 (35:19):
I was it was too much.
SPEAKER_01 (35:21):
But yeah, the athletes, they have a sweet spot
for me.
I just fucking I can't getenough of them.
SPEAKER_00 (35:27):
Yeah, so good.
SPEAKER_01 (35:28):
Yeah, so I feel you on that.
Anyway, I'm totally distracted.
Don't know what I was gonna askyou next.
Um, okay, so I've wanted to Iwanna ask you about like being
turned on with black guys is isdefinitely that's a thing.
(35:48):
Do do cucks or the cuckmentality, or I should just say
this like submissive, like hot,submissive white guys turn you
on in a different way?
Is there something about thoseguys that is not just endearing,
but like I don't know, exexciting to you at all or no?
SPEAKER_02 (36:09):
Yeah, yeah.
I think I I I don't know.
I get off, I guess, on like thethe power a little bit and just
like I am really like intohumiliation and stuff, and and
if someone else is getting offon that, then yeah, that's
that's a huge turn on for me.
I uh yeah, I love I love kind ofjust making them squirm and
(36:30):
yeah, their just like desire toplease and their eagerness and
just yeah, and it's like thatthat power you kind of have is a
huge turn on.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:39):
Because like I don't know about you, but I've had a
ton of people asking me over theyears, like, oh, well, if you
love to fuck black guys so much,why don't you just date a black
guy and just be with black guys?
Like, and I'm like, it'sdifficult for me to explain in a
way that they understand that,like, yeah, that's one part of
it, but there's like this otherpart with cucks that is like
really exciting for me andenjoyable for me, believe it or
(37:02):
not, you know?
Yeah, and I don't know if thatjust goes back to the point, the
the point I made earlier wherelike you know, cucks are really
dick focused.
They think that other guys'bigger dicks are just magic and
like I mean, they are to someextent.
SPEAKER_02 (37:17):
They do.
SPEAKER_01 (37:19):
I love Taylor Swift's new song Wood, where she
talks about getting dickmatizedby big dick.
I was like, Taylor! Oh I've notheard it.
I must go listen.
Oh, you have to listen to it.
She's oh my god, it's so I waslike, Oh, I feel you, girl.
Like she's dating a footballplayer.
Like, I fucking feel you rightnow.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:38):
But I feel like there there aren't enough women
sort of saying, like, you know,size does matter.
Yeah.
Like not in all contexts, butyeah, if if we're talking about
penetrative sex, it does matter.
So some women.
SPEAKER_01 (37:53):
Yeah, I know.
I do, I get maybe like maybe forwomen who their an their anatomy
is built for smaller guys, andthen like I get it.
Like, because there's some womenwho really cannot handle that
feeling of being stretched orthat feeling of him like bumping
up against your service, theycervix, they can't handle that.
(38:15):
Uh so I yeah, I get that forthem, like this yeah, maybe size
matters in that it needs to besmaller for them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Like for all those women thatlive in the Asian countries that
rank near like the bottom ofdick size, I'm assuming that you
know they've evolved into likehaving small pussies or
something like that.
Like there has to be something.
SPEAKER_02 (38:36):
I hope so for this.
SPEAKER_01 (38:37):
I know, right?
Yeah, there has to be somethingto it, but I don't know.
I think I was just definitelyborn with big pussy energy, and
that's all I need.
So it sounds like you as well.
Yeah, so what um I know that inthe past you you said you've
you've had a cuck boyfriend andand are I alpha cuck boyfriend,
(39:00):
and you know, you guys playedaround with that and you got
really into that and stuff likethat.
And I know that you've doneyou've explored a lot of
people's cuckled fantasies andstuff like that.
Is there a cuckled, I don't wantto say scene, but scenario or
fantasy or something like thatthat really gets you where
you're just like that is thehottest.
(39:21):
Because like for me, yeah, II've talked about this on the
show before.
I'm really want a BBC gangbangon my wet wedding night.
That's like my thing.
Do you have something like thatwhere you're like, this is what
I really want or what I reallylike?
SPEAKER_02 (39:35):
Yeah, I guess because I film so much, I kind
of just did everything.
Like I uh um I did all the crazygangbangs.
Like um, I was out at Exotica inNew Jersey, I don't know, maybe
four or five years ago.
Maybe five.
Um and um we just ended uphaving like a crazy huge like
(39:58):
hotel room orgy with like abunch of guys, and my cuck at
the time was a with the camera.
Like a good cuck.
Um yeah, and it was just likethis crazy, like sweaty, like it
went on for hours and hours.
Like, yeah, it was it was crazyfun and really, really hot.
And uh yeah.
Um was it planned?
SPEAKER_01 (40:21):
Or just c came together where you were like,
all right, let's it kind of cametogether.
SPEAKER_02 (40:24):
It was, yeah, it wasn't a bad way in advancement.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (40:28):
Those spontaneous um times for me have been the best.
So I like because and and I th Ithink cucks hate that because
they they want they plan theshit out in their minds like for
years.
SPEAKER_02 (40:41):
Oh yeah, yeah.
They just fantasize about itover and over again, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (40:44):
What do you think are like the most common fan
cuckled fantasies that you havecome across?
Because I'm sure that you'veheard them all from lots of guys
over the years.
SPEAKER_02 (40:55):
Oh, I found them so diverse, like they just they're
so diverse.
Um is there a theme that you seeoften?
No, it honestly can be likeanything from like wanting like
syssification and like all thatkind of stuff, all the way
(41:18):
through to like people that havebeen cheated on that have then
like uh fetishized that as likea way of coping with things, I
guess.
And then, you know, you haveyeah, yeah, like really taboo
stuff about like the mums andtheir sisters that they want to
see um, you know, with alphablack guys and all this kind of
(41:43):
stuff.
So yeah, it's so diverse.
I'm not even sure there's like areally I'll need to go through
all my submissions and see ifthere's a recurring theme, but
honestly, like the diversityblows my mind sometimes.
It's yeah crazy.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (41:56):
Okay, so how did you start to become okay with
humiliation?
This is uh something that a lotof women struggle with.
I did in the beginning.
I was like, this feels so weird,like it feels so disingenuous.
And um, was that something thatyou struggled with, or did it
just totally come naturally toyou?
SPEAKER_02 (42:17):
Yeah, I think I'm naturally quite like I don't
really have a filter and uh uhyeah, I quite often yeah, think
don't what's the expression?
Think, don't think before Ispeak.
So yeah, maybe just don't evenconsider uh how someone might
react to me.
(42:38):
Me giving my opinion onsomething.
So uh yeah, I think it just camequite naturally.
And obviously, if someone elseis really getting off on it,
then that kind of dispers me oneven more.
Um but sometimes if they're not,I just find that even more
funny.
If they're like offended or likepissed off.
Yeah.
Because sometimes if I'm filmingcontent, like um, like I have
(43:03):
like a filming slave that likeis is just there to kind of do
as I need for the the content.
I prefer it if it's someone thatI I have like a relationship
with and but occasionally likeyou just need to get something
shot.
And yeah, I'll be like, oh,we're gonna do SPH, and they're
like, oh, oh, okay.
And that they're maybe not thatinto SPH.
(43:24):
And I'm like, can I do it?
And they're like, yeah, okay.
Um, but yeah, they're they'renot that into it.
And I'm like, it's sorry, youryour penis is fine.
SPEAKER_00 (43:35):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01 (43:36):
Please don't cry yourself to sleep.
Yeah, the SPH thing was thefirst the first thing that I was
able to get into because Iwasn't lying.
Like what I said.
Exactly, yeah, yeah.
So it felt like because yeah,before that it was it felt weird
and stuff like that to saysomething to somebody that was
(43:57):
humiliating, but then yeah, whenI had to comment on this his
size, I'd be like, well, it'snot that big.
So yeah.
I mean, like, that's just thehonest truth.
So that was a turning point forme to be able to be more
comfortable with it.
I wish that it just camenaturally for me, like it did
for you.
I wish that I could just, but Istruggled with it for like a
(44:21):
good two or three years where Idid it, but it didn't feel like
normal.
Now it just feels like normal.
SPEAKER_02 (44:29):
But yeah, yeah.
But I think as women, we'reprobably we're kind of made to
feel like we have to protectmen's egos and like we have to
so to go against that, it doesfeel quite unnatural.
But then when we let go of it,it's just like, oh, this feels
great.
SPEAKER_01 (44:47):
Yeah, and when like you like you said, like when he
gets off on it and you can seethat he's like really into it.
I mean, when you see how much itturns on the guy when you tell
him his dick is not big enough,I'm like, damn, that's like a
real trick.
It's like leaking and dribblingeverywhere.
Yes.
I was like, holy shit, really?
(45:08):
Just because I said that onething?
Like, wow, okay, I can play thisgame.
This will be fun.
Yeah, exactly.
unknown (45:13):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (45:15):
Okay, there's one thing I have to talk to you
about.
I found this on your uh website,your academy website, and we
have to talk about this becausethis is like the most awesome
thing I have read in a longtime.
For those of you guys who arelistening right now, I have been
(45:35):
thinking about this whole thingfor years, and she went and put
it into words, and I fuckAdrena.
This is so good.
Okay, it's this is so good.
Okay, it's it's called red pillversus cuck, why one is
miserable and the other worshipsme happily.
(45:56):
Um, it's like I've always feltthat like cucks are the opposite
of incels, they turn this thingthat they both have in common
into two totally differentthings.
And so, okay, I'm just gonnaread a little bit about of this.
SPEAKER_02 (46:12):
Okay, it was a while ago.
I wrote it.
I can't remember what's in it.
Oh, this is so good.
SPEAKER_01 (46:15):
Okay, you guys listen up.
Okay, okay.
It's called The HiddenSubmission of Red Pill slash
incels.
Let's call it what it is.
Incels and red pill typesalready live in a submissive
dynamic.
They just do it badly.
They spend their lives obsessingover women.
The in their entire worldviewrevolves around controlling,
(46:36):
managing, and reacting to femalepower.
They'll work tirelessly toimpress women while pretending
it's about dominance.
They pay for dates and socialrules and tie their worth to
external validation from women.
So true.
You said sounds familiar.
Get this, listen to this.
(46:56):
It's it's the bitter cousin ofcockolding, service without the
reward.
SPEAKER_02 (47:05):
But it's so true.
SPEAKER_01 (47:07):
It is, and then you go on to say red pill men can't
uh they call it alpha maleenergy.
I call it performativesubmission without consent.
They live in constant anxiety,striving to win women's approval
through outdated gender scriptswhile seething in resentment
when it doesn't work.
(47:29):
Yeah.
I read this, I was like, this isthe best fucking thing I've ever
read because it is so true.
It's so true.
SPEAKER_02 (47:39):
Yeah.
The cucks, it just they're sohappy, and then yeah, they're
the the incels are yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (47:46):
So you go on to say cuckles are honest about what
they are.
Um, you said they don't hidebehind bravado or rage, they
submit fully, and in return,they gain clarity, peace, and
structure.
Uh, you said my cucks choose toserve, to watch, to worship.
They know they can't competewith true alpha bull.
(48:07):
Uh and instead of spiraling intoinsecurity, they find
fulfillment in embracing theirrole.
I admire that.
That's what you said.
I admire that.
It takes courage to bevulnerable, it takes strength to
reject toxic masculinity andsay, this is who I am.
My cucks are brave enough tolean into their softer,
nurturing side and offerdevotion instead of domination.
(48:30):
Adrena.
I know I love this so much.
I read that, I was like, oh mygod, I want to cry.
Like, that is like beautiful.
I've this yeah, this is exactlywhat I've been trying to say for
years on this podcast, and youjust nailed it.
I was like, oh my god.
(48:51):
Thank you.
You said in a world where menare told to be stoic,
aggressive, and emotionallyavailable, my cucks are quietly
radical.
They are present, emotionallyintelligent, and unafraid to
show submission as a form ofdeep connection.
Oh my god.
Seriously, that makes meemotional.
(49:12):
I love this.
I love what you wrote.
I love that you called it outand then you said who's actually
happier?
Cucks are fucking happy andjoyous, and the red pill guys
are just raging.
So, what was your reaction?
Did you get any reaction fromthat?
SPEAKER_02 (49:29):
No, unfortunately not.
I I kind of did deliberatelypost it it to kind of I
expected, I was I was waitingfor the the rage, and uh yeah,
it did not happen.
Um but maybe it will now nowthat it's now not yet.
Not that you've but you've putit back up.
But yeah, like that like I'm notlying.
That's it's I think it all andalso I I hope that it helps
(49:53):
cucks kind of come to terms withyou know, it's not a shameful
thing and that it's yeah, it's ahealthy way of yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (50:03):
What you talked about earlier where um with the
like the Alpha Cuk thing whereguys are kind of afraid to re
let go of those they're kind ofgrasping at those little strings
of power to because they'reafraid of what might happen or
what that means if they yeah,they let that go.
(50:24):
And um and and then there's meand there's you saying like just
let it go and have the courageand the bravery to do that.
What's on the other side, if youlean into that, is so fucking
worth it.
Like the payoff is amazing, likefor both of us, you know?
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
(50:44):
Yeah, but just to be able tohave that, oh my gosh, I just I
love the fact that you wrotethat.
I love that you put it outthere, and oh my god, that's
like my new favorite thing.
Um, maybe I could put it on myblog.
Can I put can I post it on myblog?
SPEAKER_02 (50:58):
Of course, yeah, yeah, I'd love that.
SPEAKER_01 (51:00):
Okay, I have to put that on there.
That would be so amazing.
So for those of you who arelistening, I will post a link to
this blog post um in today'sepisode description because it
is just like fucking fantastic.
I absolutely love it so much.
Thank you.
Okay, now before we wrap thisup, I want to ask you about this
(51:21):
podcast that you used to have.
Um, it was it called the Size uhSize Queen Society?
SPEAKER_02 (51:28):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (51:29):
I saw a clip of it and it's so good.
What was it about?
SPEAKER_02 (51:34):
So I guess as I as we touched on briefly earlier,
like there are just women thatlove big dick.
And um I kind of just wanted toempower more women to just kind
of be okay with that and todiscuss it.
And and uh so yeah, I startedthis podcast.
Um, and I did, I think, 12episodes of it.
(51:56):
Um, and it was great just beingable to like talk really openly
about like our preferences andsome women preferred more girth,
some preferred more length, likethere was some some diversity in
there.
Um but yeah, like I used to filmit and post it on YouTube, and I
would get so much hate from menjust like completely denying our
(52:18):
experiences that like men withover a 10-inch penis just do not
exist, apparently.
But it just doesn't exist, andI'm like, but it but it does
though.
But if you need to tell yourselfto make you feel better, then
yeah, then go ahead.
Um, yeah, it just it got so muchhate, which I just found
hilarious.
Um, but I am actually gonnastart a new podcast.
(52:41):
Um, I'm hoping next month, um,as kind of like a side shoot to
the cuck academy, I think, um,where I want to have um the
couples that have, I thinkprobably the couples that have
done my cuckle confessionseries, um, and then just uh ask
(53:02):
them questions about like howthey how they got into it, like
who broke the ice, like likethat kind of stuff, because I'm
sure as you says, you get askedthe same three questions all the
time, and as do I, and everyonealways wants to know like how,
how.
Yes.
So I figure if I have couplesanswering those questions, and
it's different for everybody.
So I just think it'd be reallycool to kind of get those
(53:24):
stories and and uh yeah, see howthat goes.
So yeah, hopefully launchingthat next month, but we'll see.
I've got a lot of other stuffgoing on.
SPEAKER_01 (53:32):
So yeah, it's it's in the pipeline.
You have a lot of stuff that youdo and have done, and I admire
that about you.
It's amazing.
But what I really love mostabout you is that this is done
from a like all of this workthat you've done is done from a
place of wanting to help people.
And I I love that about you andand and wanting to make the this
lifestyle, this type ofrelationship cuckolding, um,
(53:56):
more mainstream, morenormalized, more less um
misunderstood.
So I really appreciate thatabout you.
Um okay, is any last thoughts orlast words before we wrap up the
show today?
Oh.
There's no shame in cuckolding.
Yes.
(54:17):
Louder for those in the back.
Like that needs to be repeated,like you know, so many times.
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, yeah.
We can't say that enough, that'sfor sure.
Yeah.
Um, thank you so much, Adrina,for being on the show.
I will have all of your links touh all of your projects and your
uh your sites on the show notesfor today's episode.
(54:39):
It's been such a pleasuregetting to know you, and thank
you again to Kai forrecommending you as a guest on
the show.
It's been so much fun.
Thank you.
That's gonna be it for today'sepisode.
Thank you so much for joiningme.
Make sure you go toVenusCuckledris.com.
That's where you can book aprivate chat with me, and you
(55:02):
can also join the Queen'sQuarters community and get all
the amazing benefits like theprivate podcast and the helpful
cup tier where you can get keyholding, the private Snapchat
group, monthly private chatswith me, and weekly live
hangouts and invites to speciallive events.
Oh, and you can also submit aquestion or confession for the
(55:25):
show.
Just go to VenusCuckledris.comand click on the link that says
the podcast.
Make sure you follow me on BlueSky Social.
Yes, I said Blue Sky Social.
Fuck Twitter.
My handle there is at Cuckled.
All right, that's it for today'sshow.
You guys will see you next time.
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