Crushing Defeat & Unable to Compete with BBC; A Cuck is Born

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's what's coming up on the show.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
So yeah, they both get down in front of us Nicole
in front of me, rachel in frontof him and they start pulling
down our pants.
And I was already hard fromjust the excitement of it, and
Ryan, I guess, was not.
But when we pulled our pantsdown, I mean, everybody just let

(00:27):
out a gas.
Or me and Nicole did, becauseRyan was soft and he was almost
twice as big as me.
Oh, shit.
In that moment I was kind oflike oh shit, but I didn't think
too much of it until I sawNicole like jaw dropped.
And that's when it really gotbad, because he started growing

(00:52):
and I looked smaller and smallercompared to him and our mutual
friend was like no, not really.
And our mutual friend was likeno, not really.
I didn't know, you guys werestill seeing each other Because

(01:16):
she had told me that she wasflying out to some NFL game to
meet this player that was in herDMs.
I started pulling my pants downand I knew something was up
immediately, because she lookedat it and she let out like a
smirk and then she took it intwo fingers and I forget what
she said, but she's like, ohnice.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
That's better than oh cute.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, oh yeah, you know what I think?
That's what she said.
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
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(02:17):
Hello everyone and welcome tothe show.
I'm your host, venus Today.
Today.
Today's episode is absolutelyone of my favorites Because this
is a sensitive topic for a lotof guys out there and this is a
fascinating window into the soulof a lot of men for.

(02:40):
So, for women who are listeningto this, this is going to be
absolutely fascinating.
It's going to be incredible.
So a great learning opportunity.
It's just.
It honestly blows my mind.
So many of you will rememberthe most popular, most
downloaded, most listened toepisode I have ever done.
That was called when she GoesBlack.

(03:03):
That was way back in the firstseason.
I think it was episode numbersix.
I believe I'll put the link inthe show notes for today's
episode, but I talked a littlebit about my experience with
black men and my sexualpreference for black men, and in
that episode I brought up, Iread out, this quote that my

(03:26):
friend had just casually said ina conversation that we were
just having in DMs and it wentsomething like this with my

(03:49):
girlfriend and the moment ablack man walks into the room
and I see her eyes shift to him.
In that split second moment Ifeel defeat, like he has won,
and I am reluctant to accept it,but I accept it.
He has won and I like it wentis.
It was a little bit moredetailed than that, the quote,
but I remember reading that andthinking to myself that was

(04:11):
profound.
I had never, even I never heardof like guys thinking that way,
and so I thought I I bet awhole bunch of other guys feel
that way and they have.
They just just don't.
That's not something that theyshare.
And so, sure enough, after thatepisode aired holy fuck, I had

(04:33):
so many guys be like.
That resonated with me so much.
That is exactly how I feel andI was like this is amazing that
there's so many of you guys thatfeel this sense of defeat and
yet none of you guys areactually like talking about it
really.
So I just felt like I had thisvery unique opportunity to

(04:56):
really peer into the soul of somany of you guys in a very
vulnerable and honestunderstanding of what it is that
you are thinking in that momentthe sense of defeat that you
can't compete with these guys,and today's guest is my friend
Mike.
I've known him for a long timeand his stories.

(05:16):
I'm so proud of him for sharinghis stories.
But his stories are reallyincredible because he was
introduced to this reality ofdefeat early on and in a very
kind of rude way, almost likedramatic, and I know I laugh a

(05:36):
lot and giggle a lot in thisepisode but it's funny, but it's
also like it's just soincredible to me to hear about
these stories.
So I do take it seriously, eventhough some of the things are
kind of funny, and but I thinkit's really an amazing story how
he talks about how he wasintroduced to this reality of

(05:58):
defeat and how it has happenedrepeatedly in his life where
he's lost out to black men andBBC and that this keeps
happening and that it's justbeen frustrating for him but
also very hot.
And one of the things that Iwould like for listeners of this
episode to leave with after youlisten to this show is that I

(06:22):
would love for you to have thiskind of deeper understanding
that there's more to you thatyou have to offer if you just
think outside of the box ofwhat's expected, what society
expects of you, that if you justlet go of those expectations
and embrace this kind ofcreativity, of thinking outside

(06:46):
of the box, of what's quoteunquote normal and expected of
you as a man, that you haveamazing things to offer, if you
only get to that part ofcreativity and acceptance and
that's not easy.
So that's what I hope peoplewho are listening will leave

(07:18):
with with this episode today.
That's really incredible.
That's coming up and I will beannouncing it on Wednesday,
february 19th.
That's February 19th.
I'm going to be announcing thishuge project that I have that
I'm launching.
That's coming out on that day.
So check my socials.

(07:39):
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I'm so excited to be able toannounce this project finally,
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I'm so excited to be able toannounce this project, finally,
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Okay, joining me on the show, Ihave my very good friend, mike,

(09:55):
who is going to share hisstories about his love for
interracial.
Welcome to the show, mike.
Say hello to all the listeners.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Hey everybody, nice to be to the show.
Mike.
Say hello to all the listeners.
Hey everybody, nice to be onyour show, venus.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'm so happy to have you here.
I can't wait to have thisconversation.
I think this is going to be so,so, so good.
You, along with many, I want tosay millions of other guys out
there, have this real love forinterracial, interracial, porn,

(10:27):
interracial, whatever, and like.
This is a real, a big thing foryou, right.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, it is.
I mean, I would say, probablyall the porn I watch now is
interracial.
So it's been a big thing.
It's probably been a big thingfor a while.
I'm late 20s, but I think thisis something that started a lot,
lot earlier, and it probablystarted a lot earlier for a lot
of guys.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, I agree.
I mean I just keep seeing it inthe news and in articles and
stuff like that how wildlypopular interracial is.
I mean you just look at likeblackcom.
It's crazy.
So how did this all start withyou?
Is this like a long time thingand did you feel like a switch

(11:15):
was flipped or something likethat?
What's your origin story aroundthis interest?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, like I said, I'm in my late 20s now.
Um, this probably started, Iwant to say, well, actually I
can kind of pinpoint the moment,but it is definitely a thing
that came from college and Idon't think I even realized it
at the time.
It kind of blew up after thatand I think I kept thinking
about that, the incident, let'slet's call it, and it kind of

(11:46):
spiraled from there.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean, I can elaborate on that story if you'd
like to hear it yeah, we'regonna get into that, but I would
just want to say that I youknow it's funny.
I've heard that from lots ofguys.
Like I've talked to a lot ofguys over the last decade about
interracial and college yearsare formative, like there's some
shit going on in college thatis flipping the switch for a lot

(12:12):
of these guys.
So tell me, what was it for you?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I can only imagine um , okay, well, it's a bit of a
story, so I guess let mebacktrack.
I I'm I'm from kind of like thenortheast area of the united
states, so, uh, and I went to apretty big school.
Um, I won't delve too far intothat, but it was a school that

(12:40):
is it's part of the big 10 now,which, for the people who don't
know sports, that's like one ofthe 10 big schools that do
college sports, so football,basketball, all that stuff, okay
, and that that is relevantbecause of what happened
afterwards.
So this this is probably.

(13:01):
It was in my junior year, sothis is just after I had turned
21.
Um, I was actually dating thisgirl for like about three months
.
Uh, her name was nicole, or I'mgonna say nicole, uh, as a
pseudonym, but yeah, so I wasdating this girl, nicole, and,
uh, you know, it was was reallycool.

(13:22):
I had started dating her beforeour 21st birthday.
So once it happened, we startedgoing out together and that's
kind of how our bond was.
It was very party and funfocused.
I guess you, being 21 years oldopens up so many new doors.
Right Now we're not partying ata you know a frat, we're going

(13:45):
out to bars and clubs.
So it was.
It was definitely, you know, agood, a good relationship and it
was a fun one.
Uh, but being a fun one, youknow, we were a bit more open to
doing other things and so, well, this, this is kind of the.
The incident itself is me and meand nicole decided to have like

(14:08):
a double date with, uh, one ofher friends, this girl, rachel.
Now, the thing is, rachel is awas a cheerleader for the
football team, okay, and ofcourse, rachel's boyfriend was
on the football team, right, andI did not know that.
I knew she was a cheerleader,but I didn't know that was her
boyfriend.

(14:28):
I thought it would just be somerandom guy and, lo and behold,
I meet him on the day of andit's this six foot, you know
five, like massive ripped blackdude.
And now again, me being me I Imean Venus, youus, you know me,
you've known me for a while II've always had a little bit of

(14:48):
a uh, I don't know, maybe it'segotistical, but I I've got a
little bit of alpha feeling tomyself and so in that kind of
situation I didn't think toomuch of it.
Now again, this is before thewhole interracial thing started,
and so for me I'm like, oh,whatever, just a dude, I'll talk

(15:08):
smack to him and you know, I'lllevel the playing field of of
both of us.
So but he was a chill dude,very, very chill.
Um, and rachel was super hot,so like it was not a bad double
date, um, and we went out tosome bars.
So we went out, we had a goodtime, it was a great time.
We all had, you know, not toomuch to drink, but enough to

(15:30):
have a good night.
And so rachel was staying atthis, like there's like a really
really nice kind of dorm thatthey had just built.
So she was like oh, come back,let's's play some pool, let's
hang out, we can hang out in mydorm, or whatever.
So we're like okay, let's gohang out.

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One thing led to another throughour conversations that night
and I mean to make a long storyshort we decided on having a
foursome.
I don't know how it really cameto be.
I think actually it was Nicolethat suggested it After me, and

(16:19):
I didn't even give this guy aname.
Me and Ryan came back from wewere playing a game of pool, and
then we came back, uh, to theroom and so they were like, hey,
you know, here's a crazy idea.
And so it happened so fast.
Honestly, it was like a blur.
I was like, okay, I'm, you know, game, whatever, this guy is

(16:39):
cool and whatnot.
And, uh, they just told us tostand next to each other and
they were like, we'll pull downyour pants together, kind of
like you know.
And, uh, we can, you know,we'll go from there.
Um, so you know, me and ryan,like whatever, you know, we're
cool.

(16:59):
Um, kind of weird, because I'venever been next to another guy
that was nude, like that.
I mean, you know, I don't thinkmany of us have been in those
situations other than like in alocker room, but even then it's
not like, oh dude, we're aboutto get our dicks sucked.
So, yeah, they both get down infront of us Nicole in front of
me, rachel in front of him andthey start pulling down our

(17:21):
pants.
And I was already hard fromjust the excitement of it, and
Ryan, I guess, was not.
But when we pulled our pantsdown, I mean everybody just let
out a gasp.
Me and Nicole did, because Ryanwas soft and he was almost

(17:41):
twice as big as me.
Oh shit, it was a huge, like Imean I'd watched porn before
obviously.
I mean we all probably startsomewhere in high school and so,
but the mindset is always likethat's not real.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
It's not real.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, of course those people exist, but there is a
reason they're in porn.
Like yeah, like it's like theextremes, right, not everybody
is built like the rock.
Like I don't expect to see thatguy walking around every day.
Yeah, but this dude, if hewasn't in football he definitely
had a good uh career lined upfor him porn, because he had a

(18:20):
huge like it was and it was.
I mean it was really thick, waswhat I remember.
The length was one thing, butit was just thick and I mean,
again, in that moment I was kindof like we're still drunk a
little bit.
I was like oh shit, but Ididn't think too much of it

(18:42):
until I saw Nicole like justlike jaw dropped and Rachel just
smiled and then she startedsucking him up.
And that's when it really gotbad, because he started growing
and I looked smaller and smallercompared to him.

(19:04):
So, yeah, it was not a.
The ego was really taking a hitat that point.
Um, and I guess to paint apicture like I'm, I mean I would

(19:25):
say I'm not the smallest guy,but I am probably a little bit
less than five inches.
So I mean I want to say thisguy was probably 10 or more than
that.
I don't, I don't know, but hewas huge.
I know you used the uh forearmtest yes, yes he.

(19:45):
He surpassed the forearm of thegirl.
That was, oh wow, he was, hewas massive anyway.
So we continued, rachel wassucking him off and then nicole,
after her senses came back toher, she started sucking me off
and you know it was great.
But I noticed that she keptlooking over and I mean I was

(20:06):
again.
I wasn't too worried, I wasn'tlike, oh, this guy's about to
like steal my girl or something,but I was.
I knew she was interested in it.
I didn't think at the time she'dever had one like that.
I don't, I don't think she did.
And so you know, we're gettingsucked off, whatever.
And uh, I remember this prettywell because, again, I don't

(20:28):
know if they had talked beforewhat really happened.
But after we were getting youknow head for about five minutes
they had us lay down and wewere like kind of in doing 69,
but me and ryan are kind of likelaying foot to foot, so we're
like in opposite ends andthey're on top of us, kind of

(20:48):
looking at each other right, andall of a sudden, like I don't
know if, like like she juststarted really sucking me off
and I mean I came uh, which youknow that that's not great in
that situation.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
It was a bit early.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, it was, it was an early bloom, um.
And so rachel was like, oh, no,you know, like that's like too
too early, too early.
Mike.
And nicole is like, oh, it'sokay, it's okay, he can, he can
get it up quick again.
Uh, why don't you go, go andclean up and we can work on it?

(21:28):
And I was like, okay, noproblem, no problem.
And so I, you know, get up, Igo to clean up.
And now I come back and they'reboth sucking Ryan off, and I
would say it's, it's literallylike right off a porno.
They're both like she's likeshowing him, her, how to like

(21:49):
suck off a big dick.
That that's literally what washappening in front of my face,
wow.
And I just could not get hard,because now I was like, holy
shit, that's, that's sodifferent, what she's doing with
him is so different.
Because she was going deepthroating, she was getting his

(22:11):
head in and that was about it,and so I watched that and they
knew that I was watching, uh.
But I I asked nicole if shecould like come over and like,
you know, hey, I need some helpgetting hard.
And she's like, yeah, just giveme a second, give me a second,
um, and well, after that I'mtrying to piece this back in my

(22:37):
head, sorry, so I don't know ifit's traumatic or uh or not.
I mean, people would love to gothrough this experience, but I
think for a lot of people, ifyou haven't gone through it
unknowingly, like not expectingthat situation to happen, it is,
it is.
It is a doozy oh, absolutely.
I feel like at that moment, likea cock was born yeah, no, no

(23:02):
shit um the birth of a cuckoldoh man, we should make a movie
out of this, yeah, so anyway,yep, I, I watched, and, uh,

(23:22):
nicole did not come back to suckmy dick she was busy she was
very busy.
She had her hands full and hermouth and her pussy.
Well, not yet, but that did come.
That came, um.
Well, that's, that's actuallywhat happened, very like.

(23:43):
Next, uh, rachel said I want towatch him open you up.
And I was like, oh shit, Ithought I was gonna open her up
like I was gonna fuck her firstbecause I mean, I'm not stupid.
After having that, she'sprobably not going to feel mine
uh, yeah and so I was like wait,hold on, let's.

(24:05):
Uh, why don't I fuck her firstor I'll fuck you, rachel?
And?
And she was like no, it's.
You're not even hard yet.
You can wait a bit.
Maybe watching this will getyou hard.
And so I watched her lay downand Ryan got in front of her and

(24:30):
oh my God, I mean he stretchedthe shit out of her.
I was probably watching for 20minutes while he just tried to
fit his dick in.
It was crazy and the soundslike I don't know how anybody in
that dorm didn't hear what wasgoing on.
I don't know.
I mean, maybe you have moreexperience with this, but like I

(24:51):
had never heard those soundsbefore.
Yeah, I know what you're talkingabout, oh so so, yeah, so she,
I mean he started fucking her.
And again I asked rachel.
I was like hey, I'm hard now.
Could you come over, and howabout we have some fun too?
And she was like uh, no, I'menjoying watching this.

(25:14):
Uh, I think I'm gonna keepwatching oh no and now I'm now
I'm actually cupped right.
I'm literally watching mygirlfriend get dug out and the
other girl who was supposed tobe sharing, or that we're
supposed to be sharing, is noteven interested.
And, oh my god, I can't evencount how many times.

(25:37):
Uh, she came, like she, and oh,oh, oh here's the thing okay.
So one of the other things Ireally got into it after this
moment was squirting.
In my experience, everythingwith squirting has always been
like you know you?
You see this huge spray gushout as the woman comes um.

(25:57):
That's not what happened inthis situation.
So he was fucking her and he washe kind of had her picked up
and was like oh, that move yesyeah, he was fucking her in the
air, so he was holding her inthe air and she was kind of a
small girl, so, like, like youcould.
I mean it's pretty easy to fucksomebody pretty hard, based on

(26:19):
the size difference of those two.
And I heard her coming and shewas shaking on him and there was
no spray though, right.
So I I didn't think she couldsquirt in the first place and
when his dick came out of her itall just dumped out yeah it was
just a huge drop of water andor whatever squirt fluid and I

(26:43):
was just shocked because Irealized he was just so big that
it wouldn't come out plug yeah,it was a plug and it was
building up inside her and itjust all dropped out and I was
just shocked and at this point,like I wasn't even hard anymore,
like I was again, I'm prettysure to all the listeners, uh,

(27:06):
this, this is a amazing story,but in the moment this was not
amazing for me.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
It's traumatic right, it was really traumatic.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
And Rachel for what it's worth, was not helping one
bit, Because she was like, wow,she can come like that.
Have you ever made her squirt?
And I was like no, and she justlike laughed it off and, to be
honest, I mean the rest of thenight is really a blur.
But it was just her and racheljust taking turns fucking ryan

(27:38):
and I think at one point I askednicole.
I was like hey, you know, can Iget back in on this?
And she was like, to be honest,like there's no point in
fucking you right now.
You're you're not going to feelanything.
Did you say that something?
She said it in a nicer way, butshe was like I'm, I'm probably
not going to feel anything.
Did you say that?
Oh my God?
She said it in a nicer way, butshe was like I'm probably not

(27:58):
going to feel it.
And she did ask if I wanted toeat her out.
And so I did eat her out and Iate Rachel out towards the end,
wow, and I asked for a blowjobat the end, which I got from
Nicole.
But I mean, again, the damagewas done.
That was probably the mostdrunk.
A blowjob at the end which Igot from nicole, uh, but I mean
again, the damage was done.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
that was probably the most drunk, lazy blowjob I've
ever received.
She was just doing a pityblowjob at that point, oh well,
I needed the release, so I wasthankful either way.
But um yeah, so that was mywelcome to the kako lifestyle
moment yeah, I can see that asbeing very traumatic but also,
like in hindsight, very hot yeah, it was again in hindsight very

(28:43):
hot, very, very hot and uh, Imean, I don't tell people about
this story.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Obviously I keep the kak stuff to a kind of to my
private life.
But it's crazy, I harbored thatmemory for so long and it was a
while before it turned into ahot memory yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
so so what has happened since then?
Because I understand thatthat's not the only thing that's
happened where you've had thiskind of like ultimate rejection
over BBC, like I feel likethere's been other other
instances where this hashappened to you.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
It definitely was the first, but it wasn't the last.
It's kind of weird.
I mean, I don't know if it's aself fulfilling prophecy, but I
just I guess I am into thesekinds of women that tend to be
the type to like black guys, andso, one way or another, a
situation will always arise, atleast in my experience, where

(29:41):
that's put to the test.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, I think it's kind of funny because, it's true
, like I've known you for a longtime, you're, you've just such
a great personality and likesuch an easygoing guy and funny
and you get along with everybodyand you know you're a good
looking guy and you have thesebeautiful eyes and like such an
easygoing guy and funny and youget along with everybody and you
know you're a good looking guyand you have these beautiful
eyes and like you, just you knowthere's no reason why you can't
pull in these chicks who arethat type and and you do you

(30:04):
always seem to like lose out.
And I'm not laughing at you, I'mlaughing with you, okay, sort
of laughing at you.
I'm laughing with you, okay,sort of laughing at you, but
anyway, so I, I have heard thesestories, and not just, like I

(30:24):
said, not just from you, butfrom other guys out there who
this happens to them, and orwomen.
You know they are drawn in byall of those great qualities
that you have, but, like,sexually, whether you want to
admit it, you're just not on thesame level as these guys, these
black guys.
So what happened?
Give me, give me all the tea,like what happened.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Let me close out that story with saying we did not
last very long after that.
That relationship endedprobably a week after that
incident and the reasoning waspretty poor.
So I I can only assume what.
What was the uh trigger?
Oh, but I mean, you're right.

(31:06):
I mean, look, I appreciate thecompliments.
Of course I I do try to be, uh,you know, a superstar for women
in every way possible, but it's, it's kind of tough because
you're right, like I thinkthat's part of this.
The reason that we become cucksis because maybe we we do have

(31:27):
the personality and the looksand whatnot to get somebody you
know attached to us, but then inthe bedroom it's just, I mean,
I would like to think I'm goodin the bedroom, but it's just
not the same level yeah, no, youcan't compete with them, and
that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Like I, I can only imagine that your ego would be
constantly trying to fight thatreality.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, very much.
So I guess that'll that'll leadinto where this conflict came
up again this ego versus reality.
So this was a couple of yearsago, two years ago, three years
ago.
Um, I do, you know, I work out,I go to the gym.
Back then I used to go to gympretty often covid was kind of

(32:13):
like a trigger for hey, don't belazy, go and work out, I go to
the gym.
Back then I used to go to thegym.
Pretty often COVID was kind oflike a trigger for, hey, don't
be lazy, go and work out andstay in shape.
So I probably was in the bestshape of my life, like just
playing basketball, working out,playing volleyball, like all
sports and activities, and youknow we all had the time.
So I noticed there was this newgirl at the gym who was like

(32:38):
smoking, she's like a mom andVenus, you've seen her.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
So I saw the picture I was like damn, she's hot.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
She's, she's very, very hot and she's she was super
nice girl too.
Um, I had talked to her acouple of times and and you know
, just in passing, and it wascool and then I told one of my
friends who was a trainer at thegym.
Uh, I told him I was like, hey,uh, you know, do you know
anything about her?
Like, and he was like, oh yeah,she's a, she's a really cool
chick.
She's actually she applied tobecome a personal trainer here.

(33:08):
If you want, I can like, like,you know, actually introduce you
to her.
And so I was like awesome, yeah, sign me up.
And so I put my uh, you know,mike, magic, magic, mike touch
to it and uh, we went on acouple dates super fun, and I
think we were, we were likepretty into each other.
And then one day we went to dolike a workout together and the

(33:32):
workout was great, uh.
But we had met up earlier thatweek and uh, we kind of like we
went out somewhere and we weremaking out in the car but she
had to get home and I had to gethome, so we really couldn't do
much else.
Also, it was kind of a publicplace, but our gym is kind of
secluded.
So after our workout I think wewere both like pretty hot and

(33:52):
you know, bothered and we'relike, okay, let's jump in the
backseat and let's you know thebackseat of your car.
Okay, uh, yeah and let's, let'shave some fun.
And so we were making out, andyou know, again, we're both into
it, it's, it was really steamy.
I bet every single window wasfogged up, uh, which probably

(34:12):
was a good thing.
Uh, nobody else noticed whatwas going on.
But after, you know, we madeout, I reached for my kind of
like cubby where I keep mycondoms and I had nothing left,
uh.
So now I'm thinking, oh, I'mgoing to go, like I might have

(34:34):
to do this beer.
And I haven't really spoken toher about the usual pre-sexual
memo, right, but I was like, youknow, let's not worry about it.
And I was.
I was like, let me, let me takemy pants off and let's, let's
do this.
So first I took her shirt offand then after that I started
pulling my pants down.
Let's do this.

(34:54):
So first I took her shirt offand then after that I started
pulling my pants down and I knewsomething was up immediately,
because she looked at it andgave me kind of like a like.
She let out like a smirk, asmirk, giggle, and I was, you
know, I wasn't paying too muchmind to it, I was on fire at
that point.
And then she took it in twofingers on fire at that point,

(35:16):
and then she took it in twofingers and I forget what she
said, but she's like oh nice,it's better than oh cute.
Yeah, you know what I think?
That's what she said, oh my God.
And she said you know I likehow clean you keep it, because I
do try to keep it very cleandown there, like manscaped right

(35:41):
.
Yeah, manscaped, very, verymanscaped.
If you don't own a Panasonicrazor, you should get one for
all those listening.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Very, very helpful.
But she looked at it and shewas like you know, oh cute,
whatever.
And again I didn't pay too muchmind to it.
I was just like you know, I'mready to dive in here.
And before she she gave me head, she was like, oh, you know
what, I think I want to geteaten out first.
And so I was like sure, let's,let's get into it.

(36:10):
And I went down on her and I'mnot trying to brag here, but I
think my skills down there arepretty good.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
They should be.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
As you know, I have to make up for other things,
yeah, but you know what Iactually do more of like a love
of the game kind of guy, right,I do it because I want to be
good at it.
I didn't do it to make want tobe good at it.
Um, I didn't do it to make upfor lack of size, right,
although it became more clearthat it was a good thing that I

(36:41):
was good at oral or the sizewould have been an even worse
issue yeah so anyway, I wentdown on her.
I definitely made her calm andshe was pretty satisfied and she
was pretty wet.
So I was like yes, let's go.
And then I, you know, leanedback and I was like okay, I just
like kind of held my dick and Iwas like oh, uh, I don't have

(37:04):
like a condom, is that okay withyou?
And she was like oh, don'tworry, I have some.
And then I was like okay,that's cool.
I mean cool venus.
Tell me, I mean cool Venus,tell me why and you know the
story, but tell me why this girlliterally only had Magnum XLs.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Because that's all I have either.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Have regular Magnums, maybe Magnum XLs only, have
regular magnums, maybe magnumxls only.
And now I'm like, oh shit, notagain.
Like like a flashback of thatcollege experience went in my
head and I was like no, no, no,you're just.
You know, you're thinking toomuch, just let it be.
And I was like, you know, stilllike I can fit into a magnum,

(37:54):
okay.
Um, I was like let's, let'sgive it a shot.
Of course I didn't act timidwith her.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I was like oh, it'll fit, it's fine.
You were all like, yeah, noproblem, no problem, let's,
let's do it.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
And uh, she's like, okay, and so she took it out.
She rolled it on.
Yeah, it was loose, definitelywas loose.
But condoms are like they'remade to stretch, right, so
they're, even though the bigones are still inherently a
little bit smaller.
Right, like just so that theystretch when they're on and give

(38:29):
you that seal.
But it was still loose and shewas like oh, maybe you're just
not hard enough for it to betight.
Let me like, jerk you off a bitand you'll probably get, you'll
probably fill it out.
I was like, okay, and so shestarted jerking and at first I
was like, okay, this is good,but she jerked me off so fast

(38:53):
and hard.
I was like shocked.
It was like if you've everwatched a you know porno where
somebody's getting jerked off,you know at the very end, where
they're like going hard and fast, and that was it from the jump,
basically.
And I came and she was stilljerking off.
She was still jerking it offand like it was a mess Cause now

(39:19):
the cum is like cream becauseshe's been jerking it off so
much, and it's like drizzlingdown.
And I was like, oh, hold on,hold on.
I, I, I came and she was like,oh my God, that's too bad.
I'm sure she was like oh my god, that's too bad.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I'm sure she was so disappointed.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
And I was like, no, no, it's okay, it's fine, like
usually, I would have lastedlonger, but you were going
really hard and fast.
And she's like no, I was justtrying to make it hard, my bad.
And I was like, like it's okay.
I was like, maybe, if you like,maybe let me clean it up and oh
you're, you weren't giving up,you weren't giving up yeah, I

(40:02):
wasn't giving up.
I was like let me, let me cleanit up.
And, uh, maybe you could likesuck it and then get it hard
again, and then we could do this.
And she was like uh, you knowwhat I've?
You know it's getting lateagain, uh, and we're all sweaty.
Maybe let's try this anothertime.
And she was like you know, Ilove the orgasm you gave me,
though like I can't wait forthat again.
Um, so get that tongue ready,something like that she's right,

(40:25):
cute, uh, and so yeah.
So I pulled my pants up and thatwas kind of the end of that
night and I do remember tellingyou about this, so you knew
about this as it was happening.
Yes, unraveling and I laughed, Ilaughed so much you laughed
because at the time again, Iwasn't thinking much about it,

(40:49):
right?
And then I was asking her youknow, in consecutive times that
we met we didn't go on anotherdate per se, we would just hang
out at the gym, yeah.
And then I was asking her hey,you know, or I guess this was
afterwards I was texting her andI was saying hey, you know,
when are we gonna?
Do you want to link up in theback seat again?

(41:10):
And she kind of just like waslike, uh, maybe some other time,
like I think she said it wasthat time of the month, or like
you know, she was just pushingit off.
She's like oh, I'm kind of busythis week, maybe, you know,
next week or the week after.
And then I start seeing herworking out with this jacked
black dude which came out ofnowhere and I had seen that guy

(41:35):
in the gym before.
He's you know whatever, he'sprobably a chill dude.
But you see somebody workingout with somebody else once,
fine, whatever, twice.
But when it starts becominglike, okay, every day I go to
the gym, this girl is workingout with this guy and she's not
asking me to work out with heranymore, I'm like okay, what's
going on?
And then that's when I got thethat text.

(41:59):
It was something like hey, uh,do you remember that night when
you ate me out?
And I was like yeah, I was likewhen, like are you, if you're
into a repeat, like are yougoing to do it again?
And she was like no, I was justtalking with Mike, don't worry.
I didn't say you know your nameor anything like that.
Of course, that guy's name isMike.

(42:20):
And she was like I have aquestion for you.
Like you said you didn't haveany condoms Like what condoms do
you usually wear?
And this is a weird question toask anybody.
Why would you ask like whatcondoms do you usually wear?
And this is a weird question toask anybody, right?
why would you ask like, whatcondoms do you usually wear?
And so I was like oh, I justwear like these.

(42:40):
I wear like trojan ultralubricated, yada, yada blah.
I gave her the full legal name,uh, so to speak, and she was
like oh, okay, she was like um,I was just wondering, because I
mean no offense, like the, themagnums that I have, the, the
ones that I had, uh, she didn'teven call them.

(43:00):
I just said the condoms that Ihad, they don't really fit mike
they're too small, yeah, they'retoo small for him and they're
magnum excels.
And now I'm putting two and twotogether and I'm like, wait a
second.
She's telling me one that shefucked this guy and two that
they're like, like he's too bigfor it too.

(43:22):
I'm like what is going on?
Like what is wrong with people?
Before you know, probablypeople are thinking what kind of
like seductress is this woman?
Like we were very open witheach other I try to keep things
very open so I guess she wascomfortable with, yeah, telling

(43:43):
me that kind of stuff, and I Idon't think we were not
exclusive, so it wasn'tsomething like oh, you know, you
shouldn't be doing that.
We're just like oh, we werehooking up.
And then she's like yeah, I wasjust trying to figure out, like
, like, how big he is, because,like, if those didn't fit you
and they fit, they don't fit himfor the other reason, like.

(44:05):
And then she was just like wait, how she?
wants you to spell it out and Iwas like what, why are you
asking me this?
And no, she's like no,seriously.
And again, I'm paraphrasingthis whole text message shot.
I mean, uh, I don't want toexpose it to everybody, but you

(44:29):
know again, venus, you've seenit.
She said something along thelines of I, I just like he's
like the biggest I've ever seenand I'm just like curious as to
how big he is and like, if youknow, then maybe I can like
compare it or like figure it out.
And I told her like I was likeokay, this is back when you know

(44:49):
, I was still like a1, confidentin my dick.
I said you know, I'm six inches, right, the guy is not going to
say that.
She literally clapped back andsaid you are not six inches.
And I was shocked and I waslike yeah, I am.
She was like no, you're not.
She's like you're probably.

(45:10):
Like I was thinking four.
And I was like are you kidding?
Like four is like that small?
I was like I'm not small.
And then she was like this islike dreadful.
She's like and oh, now, jumpingback a little bit, I did tell

(45:32):
you afterwards.
I was like do you think sheknew what she was doing with the
jerking off, like, why did shedo it like that?
And I think at the time youwere like, oh no, she probably
just saw some stupid thing inporn and that's why she did that
.
And then she was like don'tplay yourself.
You didn't even fit the condomthat we used the other day, and

(45:57):
why do you think I jerked youoff so fast?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I don't know the truth comes out and I was like
what?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
and I remember again, I ran straight to you and I was
like venus, what the fuck isgoing on right now?
And she was like yeah, I, youknow, I I had to jerk you off
super hard because I was not,like you didn't even fit the
condom, like you're not big,like, and I'm used to bigger
dicks, and I don't know.

(46:28):
That was just like a rollercoaster of emotions right there.
You know what?
I have the messages here.
Let me let me do a quick lookup.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
I can tell you exactly what happened what I
love so much about this story isthat during that time I know
you were really in denial ofyour size.
You did argue quite a bit thatyou were six inches.
You spent days arguing with herabout your dick size.
Okay, and it was fascinating tome because I could see this tug

(47:03):
of war that reality versus yourego was doing and I was just
like why are you still arguingthis with her?
This girl knows what your sizeis.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
I guess, like you know, you got to fight to the
death as a man, so I was givingit my all, but I guess I was
doing more damage than good.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Yeah, because she admitted that you were really
good at eating pussy and yougave her really great orgasm.
So I guess it's just the deathof penetration, the death of
that, the idea of that you're achampion in the penetration part

(47:46):
, piv, sex part, that wasdifficult for you.
It's like mourning the loss ofthat side of your sexuality I
think so.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
That's a good, that's a very educated way of putting
it well, it's fascinating to mebecause I've been trying to
understand all of this thatyou're, that's happening to you
and how it's affecting you andlike your behavior and stuff
like this is.
You are not unique in this.
This is how these, like I said,these formative experiences
happen with guys so often.
Um, so, tell me so.

(48:18):
So tell me about these textmessages.
What exactly did she say?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
okay, um, oh yeah.
So so let me like kind of readit off.
She was like hey, like I havelike a totally random question
for you.
Do you remember that night inthe car at the gym?
Yeah, I had to blah, uh, and Isaid oh yeah.
I said hi, yeah, that was agood time.
Why do you ask?
And she's like right, uh.
And I was like I hope that's agood right.

(48:41):
She's like sort of uh, oh yeah,she said you were decent at
going down.
I'll give you that.
But I'm so sorry to bring thisup.
Remember how the condoms I haddidn't fit there?

Speaker 1 (48:53):
it goes to you know me spiraling.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
And I was like I don't remember them not fitting.
I fit those before and she'slike might be real, it legit
looked baggy, I'm sorry.
And she was like don't be upset, not everyone is big.
And then I was like no, itdidn't, that's how it's supposed
to look.
I'm glad you're finding this,you know, entertaining, because

(49:22):
she was laughing and she's likeit's okay.
Were you gymming today?
The weather is so bad, I didn'tgo and she's like it's okay.
Were you, jimmy, today?
The weather is so bad, I didn'tgo.
And she's like literally stop.
I had to grip your dick so hardjust to make sure it didn't
slide off.
You barely fit.
And she's like I guess that'skind of what like relates to
what I want to ask.
And I was like well, I guess itwas probably a little loose

(49:45):
because it was an XL and I canfit the regular ones.
But yeah, what are you askingfor?
She's like oh my God, liar.
No, you don't.
That's why you made that facewhen I took them out.
She's like why do you think itwas such a quick handjob?
I was holding it so tight andgoing faster because it was
sliding so much.
Oh gosh, I'm sorry, I justdon't see why you'd argue that.

(50:14):
See, there you go.
You were in total denial.
I was in full denial, yeah, andshe's like anyway.
So I guess size is kind ofimportant here, because the guy
I'm seeing right now doesn'tactually fit in those and she's
like which?
Like wow.
But also I was curious to knowhow big you are, because you
were the last one I did anythingwith.
So then of course, me textsback saying sorry, you're saying
I'm small.
I don't get it.
Why do you need to know that?
I'm so confused.

(50:35):
I thought we had a good nightand she's like, yeah, kind of
sorry, but but it's okay.
The bud don't call me buddy guyLike that was so mean.
She's like we did have a goodtime.
Like I said, you ate it reallygood.
You're just not.
What I'm used to is all.
Why do you think we didn't havesex in the car?

(50:56):
I'm sorry I probably sound somean, but she's like how big are
you?
Four or five?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
yeah.
So let me just say that mike it.
It goes to show that, like youare and not a like you're a safe
person for her to tell youthese honest things about.
Because, as a woman, I willtell you that telling a guy that
he's small, that his dick issmall even though all these

(51:23):
people listening right now whoget so turned on by this whole
idea of like SPH stuff let's bereal.
As a woman, if you tell a guy orhint to a guy that his dick is
small or somebody else is bigger, that is a dangerous thing to
do, could turn around and beatthe fuck out of you, hit you,

(51:50):
turn into a stalker, try to ruinyour life.
Like this is a dangerous thingfor women to do, to actually say
this to a guy.
So the fact that she was ableto say it to you, even though
she was trying to be gentleabout it, but also direct and
firm about it, honest about itas well but the fact that she
felt okay to talk to you aboutthis, even though you guys
didn't really know each otherall that well, I think it just

(52:10):
goes to show that, like you, area safe person to have that
conversation with, even thoughyou're denying it so much.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, I'll fight to death, but you know.
I will never, I will never bethat kind of person and I again,
I think that's like a that youhit it on the head.
I think that's that kind ofperson and I, I again, I think
that's like a that you hit it onthe head.
I think that's a big issuenowadays, Cause I mean, we're
talking about big size here,which is very, you know,
sensitive.
But it could be anything likejust the way somebody looks, or

(52:39):
just denying somebody you knowan advancement.
Yeah, it caused a woman to bein a hard spot.
So I definitely try to make itas safe a space as possible, but
apparently it was too safe aspace for her.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
No, it was good, because, like, what did you
learn from that?
I mean, this was an experiencein time where you had to really
accept, at least acknowledge,that size was an issue for her

(53:16):
and that you were lacking inthat department, right?

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, yeah, basically I mean.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Did it make you even more turned on by interracial
porn after that?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Well, yeah, like I said, of course, I mean we
haven't even gotten to theelephant in the room where I
mentioned it briefly, but shestarted, you know, fucking this
black guy.
So it's once again some bigshredded black dude that yeah
takes.
You know what I thought wouldbe mine yeah um rejected

(53:55):
rejected.
Yeah, and I mean just thedirectness of it, like like I
would tell people I'm, you know,six, five, six, whatever.
And she's like no, you're not.
And I think at one point it waslike let me prove it to you.
And I sent her a picture of itbecause I was so furious.
I sent her a picture of it nextto a ruler and she's like

(54:16):
literally like pressing it intoyour foreskin, like it's clear,
you're like four inches, andthat was like a very I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
It was a very spiraling moment for me that's
so funny because, like I havehad and I've said this before on
the show but it's so funnybecause, like I have been with
black guys, lots of black guysbefore, where I've asked them
like what's your size and yourdick size?
And they're like oh, I don'tknow, I've never measured it.
And then I have had so manywhite guys who were like I'm

(54:56):
exactly 6.12.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I am so funny, so true, it's so true I mean, if
you're arguing about points like0.1, 0.2, you're, you're, you

(55:20):
already lost this.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, this game and one day I measured it and I was
0.3 bigger.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
So oh, my god yeah I learned my lesson with that.
Um, yeah, and of course to yourpoint.
She said that the new guy washe didn't even know how big he
was.
He was just exactly and I doremember so vividly at some

(55:47):
point, like when I was showingyou her and I was like oh, this
is what happened.
And you were like Mike, herbody is literally made for black
guys.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
You remember that right, Because that's so true.
These women who you pick up,who you pull in because, like I
said, you got all this going foryou.
These are women who have thatbody that black guys just
fucking love, like built forblack as a thing.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Yeah, they're all like.
I mean, I have a thing for youknow, people who are in shape
and they're all, like you know,athletic in some regard.
Have the right curves in theright places, yeah definitely,
and good looking faces too, Imean, I think a face goes a long
way, oh so you compete withthese black guys for the same

(56:41):
women right and yet it's.
You're now in your late 20s andnow you're starting to realize
that, like you cannot compete inthe the bedroom in the same way
that you thought you could,yeah, basically that's tough
yeah, it's a tough pill toswallow and, again, I'm sure

(57:02):
that every single woman who isbuilt like this is has been
exposed to this, but for somereason, when they meet me, their
exposure to BBC is not very faraway.
It's not any of my doing, bythe way.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yeah, so something else happened.
That's not the last story.
Something else happened, right?
Yeah, funny enough, that's notthe last story.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Something else happened right, like, yeah, I
mean, let me let me yeah, let meclose that one out with you.
Know, we, like you said, weargued for a couple of days and
she was just like she kind ofjust put me in my place and said
no, but, but she was still sofriendly about it, Like she was
still inviting me to hang outand then work out with them,
which was interesting.

(57:48):
But I know you had mentioned atone point you were like oh, why
don't you try and introducethem to this kind of aspect?
But yeah, I don't think theywere buying any of that.
One thing I have learned isthat a c-holdress is like a very
rare being.
Yeah, because most women, ifthey find this big, jacked,

(58:14):
good-looking dude with a hugedick, they'd just rather be with
them.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah, and I get that because I think that there's
this idea that it's one or theother.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Yeah this idea that it's one or the other and not
very many women are even unawareof the fact that you can
actually have it all right.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
I agree, I definitely agree and that's what I kind of
what I was trying to explain toyou and for anybody listening
right now who's going throughsomething similar, which is
probably a lot of you.
Um, just this is why I do whatI do.
This is the reason why Istarted blogging about
cuckolding.
It's the reason why I startedpodcasting about cuckolding and
the reason why I talk about itso much is because I really want

(58:58):
women to know that you can haveit all.
You don't have to have just onething in your life, as when it
comes to pleasure and romanceand whatever.
Sure, there's other optionslike poly and stuff like that.
But when it comes to being acuckoldress or a hot wife, it
really is great because you canhave all that amazing sexual

(59:19):
experience with the big guys.
If you're a size queen, withthe black guys, if you just
absolutely love and adore theblack men in your life, and you
can still have that loving,adoring, great personality,
great, awesome person, husbandwho is happy to stay monogamous

(59:40):
and is really good at eatingpussy.
You can have all of that at thesame time.
You can have it all, whichfeels like having your cake and
and eating it too.
But that's why I said, maybejust fucking say that to her,
like just put it out there, justbe like okay, well, you know
I'm okay with you, you knowstill sleeping with these guys
like I'm good I think what thethe thing is.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
It's such a absurd like idea to some people yeah,
especially people are especiallyyounger women, um, and again,
like these are women in theirearly 20s, you know, mid-20s,
and so I think for some of them,the idea of settling down
hasn't even really, uh, sat intheir head.
So that's why they're like, oh,I don't even care about the,

(01:00:24):
you know the personality of thisguy going away, like I can
still be friends with him,whatever.
But their minds don't think, oh,I can have his personality and
this guy's sex yeah this guy'sgot a good enough personality
and and the sex is amazing, solet me just go this route yeah,
anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
So what happened?
So is that it's like after thatsaga, what?
What happened after that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Okay.
So I mean, kind of the falloutof that was like again, like I
said, I've been.
She actually hit me up kind ofrecently to work out and I
didn't.
I don't know if they're still,you know, seeing each other.
I haven't been to that gym in awhile.
Uh, I'll probably have anupdate for you at something.
So we'll see tbd.

(01:01:12):
Um, I actually met a girlthrough a mutual friend that we
had and she was very, very, verycool.
She lived in a different statethough, so I had to fly out just
to see her, but I have familyin that state, so flying out
there is not too bad.
Um, and so we had, you know,met.

(01:01:33):
When I flew out once just to, Iwas just hanging out with them
and, you know, we kind of hit itoff and things were
exceptionally good because shewas the same religion as me,
which is like a big thing, andshe's gorgeous and really fun.
So we met a couple times, uh,during that first trip, and then

(01:01:57):
I went on a couple dates withher other times.
I visited that, uh, that cityand it was amazing, but we
didn't have sex or we didn't doany of that, it was just hanging
out.
Um, the.
The last time we went, we likereally had a good, like we made
out and all that stuff.
And in that last visit that Ihad with her, which was probably

(01:02:19):
, she came back to my hotel roomwith me and so I'm like, okay,
sealed, like let's get it.
And, funny enough, like againwe started with and maybe this
was me like thinking,overthinking or like
pre-planning in my headsubconsciously but I made sure
to take care of her first, right, I was like, okay, let me eat

(01:02:41):
you out, let me.
So I did, and she enjoyed it.
It was great.
But this time, when I took itout, uh, she was just like, oh,
I'm sorry.
And I was like what she's like?

(01:03:03):
She, no, I can't, I'm sorry.
And again for the listeners,like there are micro penises.
I'm not a micro penis, right, Iam small, but I am no micro
penis.
So to hear those words, I waslike what are you talking about?
Like, are you kidding me?
And she was like yeah, i'm'mjust like, like used to a lot

(01:03:26):
more.
And I like she straight up justsaid like it's not going to
work with me, like it, it's notworth it.
And I was like oh, is thereanything else we can do.
And she's like, oh, you couldeat me out again, um, and I was
like, okay, cool.
And I was like, can I get youknow you're okay with giving me
a head?
And she was like, okay, cool,and I was like, can I get you

(01:03:47):
know you're okay with giving mea head?
And she was like, yeah, that'sfine, I could do that.
And I ended up eating her outfor like probably like an hour,
like it was a long session, andthen she said she was like so
gassed from the orgasms that shedidn't want to give me head.

(01:04:08):
Yeah, so I was like, okay, fuck, great, but she did jerk me off
, and that that happened, um,and then she left.
I mean, we, we talked for alittle bit and yada, yada, blah,
and then she left, and then Iit's weird, because I didn't
really talk to her much afterthat.
We did talk like the next dayand sheada, yada, blah, and then
she left, and then I it's weird, because I didn't really talk
to her much after that.

(01:04:28):
We did talk like the next dayand she was like, oh, when are
you flying out this?
That blah, blah, blah.
But once I got back, she wasvery, very ghost and again.
I met her through a mutualfriend and so I asked her you
know, hey has uh I'm going tocall her Jane, right?

(01:04:49):
Has Jane told you anything?
And our mutual friend was likeno, not really, I didn't know.
You guys were still seeing eachother because she had told me
that she was like flying out tosome NFL game to meet this
player.
That like was in her DMs, andthis is before I even met her
the the last time, right?

(01:05:11):
So this is between, let's sayit's between, our third and
fourth like like date or meetup.
She's saying after that thirdone, uh, she was getting like
flown out, which is likemind-blowing to me it's
happening again this is like andlook.

(01:05:33):
I mean I might plug this alittle bit later, but I have a
bunch of side businesses.
But when I one of the thingsthat I do is kind of managing
like only fans profiles and likesocial media influencers
profiles, especially likefitness influencers and so like
I have seen personally the dmsthat some people get and I mean
it's, it's definitely like ifyou're popular and you look good

(01:05:54):
, you will get these dms frompro athletes.
But it's unexpected that a lotof these people, or the, the
women who get these dms, theyactually ignore them.
Maybe they have some code orsomething, but they they ignore
them.
Maybe they'll like kind ofinteract a little bit, but they
generally don't go through withit.
So like, for me now I'm likewhat the fuck?
Like like somebody's actuallydoing this like and so, yes, she

(01:06:19):
was apparently seeing this andlike I won't name any names, but
apparently she was seeing thisone player or two players and
you know, my mutual friend sendsme like pictures of that of her
like at all these arenas inlike the VIP areas and I'm like
what the heck?

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
And this is between again us meeting.
So the last time we met she hadalready done whatever she did
and I mean I did ask that friend.
I was afraid to ask her if shehad told her anything recently

(01:07:02):
and I haven't texted her.
I mean again, I told you whathappened and I haven't texted
her.
I mean again, I told you whathappened and I haven't texted
her since.
But that friend did tell me, orthey did confirm to me, that
she was like sleeping with them,of course.
So it's a little bit worse thanjust like she was, like she had
slept with like multiple at thesame time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
That's so awesome.
Yeah, multiple at the same timethat's so awesome.
Um yeah, oh.
So has it like solidified foryou now this, uh, this whole
thing?
These are three very criticalexperiences critical is a great
word has it solidified thingsfor you now, like how has this

(01:07:49):
really changed Other than now,like your love for interracial
porn is off the charts?
But how has it changed thingsfor you?

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Yeah, I mean, I think after the first time it was
kind of like the introduction,like hey, this is like a thing
right, I didn't even know it wasa real thing until that point
and I enjoyed the ideas and theconcepts, I guess, over time,
but I didn't really experiencebecause no one offered that kind

(01:08:22):
of experience to me until thegym girl.
And so after that I definitelylike I mean again, I've said
this a couple of times in thisinterview but I've confided that
information with you and youkind of said, hey, this is like
you're like blossoming, likeyou're learning that this exists

(01:08:42):
.
And I think the secondexperience really like that was
like the head butting of me andand my reality I guess which was
tough, but uh, and I thinkstill like, I think that's part
of like being a cook, like it istough and it's like I would say

(01:09:03):
, like I'm like an egotisticalcook, like you got to put me in
my place, but yeah, so thatreally formed at least an
understanding of that internalbattle.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
And then the last experience is just like a yeah,
like just some sugar on the top,in case you forgot.
Yeah, for a lot of the guys.
And there's a blog on my, on mywebsite, um, the goddess
worshiper blog, which is amazingand he talks about how, in the
beginning, when he realized thesense of defeat to black guys
sexually, he was, he was likekind of pissed off and angry

(01:09:46):
about it, and I've heard so manyother guys have the same
reaction, where they just fightit.
They're like no, that's, it'snot going to be like that, and
that kind of denial, that angerand that disbelief and like the
suspension of reality, basically, um reaction which is common
when you're grieving the loss ofsomething.

(01:10:08):
So that's why I said you'regrieving the loss of the idea
that this is part of your sexualidentity, is your ability to
satisfy a woman with your dickand just your dick?
Obviously that's not true,because you do have other skills
.
We know that you're really goodat eating pussy.
But grieving the loss of thatidea, that expectation, um, and

(01:10:29):
understanding like what are theconsequences of that?
I can understand why so manyguys have such a a very kind of
aggressive reaction in thebeginning, but the true beauty
is in acceptance afterwards,when you realize, like okay,
like I may not have the biggestdick, I may not be able to
compete with these guys who doUm, but I can give a woman all

(01:10:56):
of everything else in differentways and, like I said before,
like that's fucking amazing whenyou can offer a woman a kind of
relationship where she can haveher cake and eat it too and
have all of that stuff.
Offer a woman a kind ofrelationship where she can have
her cake and eat it too and haveall of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
That's amazing.
That gives you more worth as apartner than a big dick 100.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
I know some guys won't understand that.
What do you mean?
A big dick is everything, ofcourse.
I'm like no, no, no, it's notso it definitely isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Uh, I can, I can tell you that, uh, it isn't, but it
certainly does help.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
It helps in a lot of ways.
But it's funny because, alongwith having a big dick, these
guys have what I what a lot ofpeople call big dick energy, and
with that comes a real sense ofcalm, confidence, of like
sexual like, no sexualinsecurity or anything like that

(01:11:56):
Like and that translates intosexual energy.
So, yes, like, having a bigdick does come across different,
even for women who haven't seenhis dick yet.
You can pick up on it.
But so that part, yeah, I getit.
It kind of gives you anadvantage for these guys who've
never had to measure themselves.
Why did they never had tomeasure themselves?
Because they never had to worryabout that shit like ever.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
You know what?
It's actually funny that youmentioned that.
I mean it's going to I'm justgoing to sprinkle some more
about the that you mentioned,that I I mean it's gonna I'm
just gonna sprinkle some moreabout the of that topic in that
first experience, right like Isaid, um, that guy ryan, like we
were chill, we were literallyplaying pool before that
incident happened, but when ourpants came down, the switch that
flipped in his head, like itwas.

(01:12:42):
Like he turned out of like thatfriendly person into just like
a cold-blooded killer that's howI would put it and like he
wasn't talking to me, he barelyacknowledged my existence.
At that point I was just kindof in the way and he was like
fully, just like owning themoment with these two girls,

(01:13:04):
which I think that's whatthey're really good at and that
might be, you know, part of kindof the allure yes, I think so
because, um, there's somethingthat's not said in words but is
said in like a, the feeling ofof the situation that women pick
up on, and it's hard to ignorethat.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
I don't feel so bad for you.
You were totally tossed asidein that situation but, like I
said, a cuck was born there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Oh, that was a formative moment for you yep, I
I said, whenever I talk about itI always say like I got out of
it basically.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Yeah, out of it.
Yeah, and in a very natural way,which is crazy.
But yeah, I love these storiesso much.
I appreciate you sharing thesestories.
I know it was not easy.
I know that this is literaltrauma for you, not easy for you

(01:14:05):
to have gone through them andnot easy for you to have
processed everything afterwards.
However, just like so many guysdo who are into interracial,
who are into cuckolding this isfrom what I understand I'll
never know for sure, because Idon't go through this but
turning something that istraumatic or uncomfortable or

(01:14:27):
just unwanted into somethingthat, flipping that into
something that is sexy and aturn on, and even though it's
still uncomfortable and it'sstill not nice, it's really hot.
So I think it's fuckingfascinating that you were able
to do that, to flip all of thatand, even though it was very

(01:14:49):
difficult and it was horrible,in some ways still made you a
pretty amazing cuck who is inlove with interracial.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
It's like a roller coaster.
Right as you're going up theroller coaster, you're like this
is horrible, this is horrible,I'm going to die, I'm going to
die.
And you go down the hill andmaybe you get off the ride and
you're like this is horrible,this is horrible, I'm going to
die, I'm going to die.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
And then you go down the hill and maybe you get off
the ride and you're like wait asecond, let's do that again.
Yeah, yes, exactly, but you get, you gotta be brave enough to
sit on the roller coaster, yeah,and that's where a lot of
people are not.
So I really appreciate yousharing this story.
I have had so many great laughsover these stories over the
years with you, so thank you,you're welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
You're welcome, I'm happy.
I'm happy I could provide somelaughs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Well, we're almost out of time, but I wanted to
wrap things up before I do.
Mike, there was something thatyou mentioned before about a
service that you offer.
Something like that Did youwant to?

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
mention about that.
Yeah, so I, like I said earlier, I actually work with
influencers and you know onlyfans models, let's say, in
quotes, on with helping themgrow their you know accounts,
with helping them, you know,reach a larger audience.

(01:16:08):
I've worked with a couple ofnotable influencers and um
creators alike.
Um, that you guys havedefinitely heard of Um, so I
will leave my contactinformation with Venus.
Um, if anybody wants or isinterested in hearing more about
it, I'm happy to provide someservices.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Great.
Yes, I will put that in thedescription notes for today's
episode.
Again, thank you so much, mike,for sharing your stories, for
being a guest on the show.
It's been awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Thanks, Venus.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
That's going to be it for today's episode.
You so much for joining me.
Make sure you go tovenuscuckoldresscom.
That's where you can book aprivate chat with me, and you
can also join the QueensQuarters community and get all
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Oh, and you can also submit aquestion or confession for the
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(01:17:25):
Yes, I said Blue Sky Social.
Make sure you follow me on bluesky social.
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All right, that's it fortoday's show, you guys.
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Bye.

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