February 27, 2025 • 20 mins
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In this episode of the Veronica Edwards Show, host Veronica Edwards welcomes back LaKeysha Moton, a master's candidate in medical cannabis science and therapeutics. They discuss the use of medical cannabis for children, focusing on various conditions it can treat, such as epilepsy, autism, and cancer. LaKeysha shares evidence-based insights on the effectiveness of medical cannabis and the different types of products available for pediatric use. The conversation also covers the legal landscape surrounding medical cannabis, emphasizing the importance of understanding state laws and keeping proper documentation when traveling. This episode aims to educate listeners on the potential benefits and considerations of medical cannabis for children.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Veronica Edwards show where we
have fun financial conversationsthat everyone listening can
apply to their personal andprofessional life.
I'm your host, veronica Edwards, so excited to be back season
five in 2025.
This is our first show with aguest being completely
(00:29):
independent, and BalanceVirtually LLC, my business, is
the inaugural sponsor, so checkus out at balancevirtuallycom.
And if you guys did not listento the season five initial
kickoff episode, which is amonologueologue, I shared with
everybody that we've been offthe air since September 27th due
(00:49):
to Hurricane Helene affectingus here in Western North
Carolina and so many in theCarolinas, florida, in the
Southeast, and unfortunately,because of the storm, biz Radio
had to close its doors.
So, first and foremost, I wantto thank the creator and owner
of Biz Radio, matt Matan, forgiving me a chance four years
(01:15):
ago with starting the VeronicaEdwards show back in 2021.
And even before, covid,allowing me to be on the radio
show when it was actually inperson.
So, again, I would not be hereif it wasn't for Biz Radio and I
just want to thank them againfor helping me transition this
independently.
So from Biz Radio, I still havemy amazing producer, mr Aaron
(01:39):
Matan, who's going to also be onthe show because he's helping
me get my concealed carrylicense to carry a firearm and
he provides classes and safetytraining for anybody that's in
the Western North Carolina areabut can also travel to you.
So stay tuned for that.
Also want to shout out my brandambassador, ms Jylan Farr, who
(02:00):
does all my social media and mynewsletters.
So we are really excited tostart this new journey with the
Veronica Edwards Show being 100%independent.
So I definitely want to shoutout the V Team, the listeners.
During this four month hiatuswe had over 300 downloads, so we
are less than 20 downloads fromhitting 5,000 downloads.
(02:21):
So this is perfect timing toget 5,000 downloads.
Season five.
So head on over again tobalancevirtuallycom, where you
can see prior shows, or toveronicaedwardsbuzzsproutcom.
But let's jump into today'sshow.
So today's guest is a friend ofthe show and a friend of mine
for over 20 years.
(02:42):
She was a guest on the showJuly 2024, so just last year and
in a very short period of time.
This guest is my fourth mostdownloaded show of all time,
darling.
So I had to bring her back tokick off season five.
And again, this guest is amaster's candidate in the
(03:03):
medical cannabis science andtherapeutics program at the
University of Maryland School ofPharmacy.
So we're going to have somegreat content today.
So, without further ado, Iwould like to introduce today's
guest, my very good friend, msLakeisha Moten.
Welcome, friend.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Hi, friend, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Thank you, and I just want to highlight that this is
we're recording this the end ofJanuary, so there's been a lot
going on, as you guys know inthe news.
So I really appreciate you,keisha, for making time out of
your busy schedule andeverything that's going on,
because if you guys haven'tlistened to the show, please do
from July, where you understandKeisha's background in politics
(03:42):
and where she works and all thatfun stuff.
So this is a very interestingtime in politics, but we're
going to be focusing on thepositive.
So, keisha, let us know whathave you been doing since last
July?
How was school?
When's graduation?
All that fun stuff.
What feedback have you gottenfrom the show?
Fill us in, friend.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yes, so since last July I've been busy, but good,
well, good.
Graduation is Tuesday, may 20th, very exciting time.
Since we last spoken, thefeedback was warm, a lot of
reception.
It's clear that this is a topicthat people want to learn about
(04:25):
, that people want to gain moreinformation about.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Very excited and thank you for having me back.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yes, absolutely.
And now that we're independentand we could talk about whatever
we want to talk about, I wantto have Keisha on on a
reoccurring basis.
So today's show I wanted totalk about a particular subject
matter, but in the future Iwould love if Lakeisha could
come give us some insights andshe's the subject matter expert
(04:52):
in medical cannabis science andtherapeutics things that a lot
of people don't realize asuseful for them and to educate
them, just to open their mind,not saying that when people
finish listening that they'regoing to run and try to get a
medical card, but that they arejust more educated.
So we really appreciate youmaking time to educate folks.
(05:14):
So today I asked Ms Moten if wecould talk about the use of
medical cannabis for children,and I know that's a very
interesting topic.
I, of course, am interestedbecause I have a nine-year-old
son who is very active and busylike his mother, so you know
asking for a friend about someof these topics.
(05:35):
So today we're going to discussthe conditions for medical
cannabis use for young folks,minors, the types of use, the
difference between pediatric andadult use and, of course, the
legal landscape, because we knowthings are different state to
state and federally.
So, keisha, I would love if youcan just start us off and just
(05:55):
kind of just tell us theoverview of conditions that we
use medical cannabis to treatchildren for.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, sure.
So medical cannabis has and isbeing used to treat children
with epilepsy children withepilepsy, ASD, autism spectrum
disorder.
It's being used to treat cancerand cancer-induced nausea and
vomiting, and it's also beingused for chronic pain in
(06:24):
children.
So the conditions you know arevery concerning.
These are conditions thatimpacts a child's quality of
life and well-being, and so whatwe're seeing is an influx of
parents and families looking atholistic option and treatments
for their loved ones, and that'scompletely understandable.
(06:45):
So I'll jump right into thefirst one, and that's epilepsy.
Epilepsy has been very excitingbecause in 2018, the FDA
released this treatment drugcalled Epidiolex, and Epidiolex
has been very popular in thepediatric epilepsy care field.
So Epidiolex is the firstplant-derived purified
(07:12):
pharmaceutical-grade CBD, and ithas shown remarkable results in
treating rare forms of epilepsy, particularly Dravet syndrome
and also the Lennox-Gastautsyndrome, LGS.
Recently, there was a studypublished in 2021 in Epilepsy
and Behavior, and that studyfollowed 607 patients, and those
(07:37):
patients hadtreatment-resistant epilepsy and
they had failed to respond toan average of eight
anti-epileptic drugs.
So, that study in 2021 foundthat 52% of those 607 patients
they experienced more than a 50%reduction in their seizure
frequency.
27% of those patients achievedmore than 75% reduction in
(08:01):
seizures.
And then also they reported aquality of life improvements
were reported in 80% of thepatients, and so numbers and
information like that we see howmedical cannabis is a viable
treatment for children sufferingwith these rare forms of
(08:21):
epilepsy.
Also, for autism spectrumdisorder in 2019, there was a
study published in ScientificReports and that study found
that cannabis treatment led tosignificant improvement in
agitation and behavior problemsof 61% of the patients, and
again, that was in 2019 forautism.
(08:43):
When you talk about cancer inchildren, unfortunately we see
that a lot here and so againit's one of those things where
we're looking for an improvementin the quality of life and
preservation of life.
So with cancer and pediatriccancer treatment, medical
cannabis has shown potential inmanaging symptoms like nausea
(09:04):
and appetite loss, and there'san interesting study that was
done a 2020 comprehensive reviewand it was published in the
Journal of Pain and SymptomManagement and they found that
cannabinoids significantlyreduce CINV and that's again
chemotherapy-induced nausea andvomiting in their pediatric
(09:25):
patients.
Two years ago, there wasanother research study and it
was published in the Journal ofClinical Oncology, and they
studied 245 cancer patients whoexperienced severe nausea
despite their conventionalanti-emetics, and the results
from that 2022 study showed that84% of the participants
reported improved nausea control.
(09:46):
We're talking about kids here.
Children it's very importantyou know we have these
conversations and begin to lookat the scientific data, the
evidence based these studies andclinical improvements we're
seeing.
And so, again from that 2022study, 72 percent of the
(10:06):
participants, they were able toreduce or discontinue their
traditional anti-emetics.
And again we see the quality oflife scores and those improved
by an average of 37%.
Like I mentioned, chronic painis another issue we deal and use
medical cannabis with inpediatrics.
There was a study done in 2023by the Journal of Pain Research
(10:29):
and there they examined over1500 patients with chronic pain
who had failed to respond toconventional treatments and some
key findings from that study.
They noted that 65% of thepatients reported significant
pain reduction, 47% reduced oreliminated their medication
(10:49):
intake and again, the quality oflife improved and that was
reported by 71% of the patients.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Wow, keisha, that's a lot of good facts and I like
the biggest thing that I'mhearing.
What you're saying isevidence-based quality of life.
Unfortunately, we've all hadpeople and loved ones that we
know and care about that eitherhave chronic pain, have cancer,
I mean hell.
I feel like I'm autisticsometimes, you know, and
(11:17):
definitely I've had a familymember that had epilepsy.
Now they've passed, but I thinkabout wow, I wonder how that
would have affected them if theywere able to have this use, and
I think a lot of times peoplejust think well, what are you
going to do?
Are you just going to roll up ajoint and give it to a child?
And that's something I want totalk about too.
(11:38):
There's so many differentproducts that you can recommend
for pediatric use, so I think alot of people one.
I wanted to make sure that wegave evidence-based facts.
You cited so many placesscientific reports, the Journal
of Pain and Research.
All of this is fact, evidencebased, and most of what you've
quoted is over five years old,so I don't want people to think
(12:00):
that this is just willy, nilly,loosey, goosey, we're just
pulling this out of thin air.
This is facts.
So, keisha, I would love foryou to share about the different
types of cannabis products thatare recommended for pediatric
use, because that's what I'minterested in.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So pediatrics and products is going to be the same
spectrum or array of productsthat's available for adults and,
as we know, for adults you haveoils, tinctures, capsules,
there are transdermal patchesand we also have tablets,
disposable tablets.
So again, the options forpediatrics who may use cannabis
(12:39):
medical cannabis products areabout the same.
It typically depends on whatthe parents are looking to
accomplish.
So with oils and tinctures,you'll get more precise dosing
for your child those who opt fortransdermal patches, that
offers a controlled release ofthe medication, and then for
(13:01):
oral capsules or dissolvabletablets.
That gives us a standardizeddosing options.
So, again, the same productoptions for children that are
available for adults.
Wow, so the dosage is thedifference.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Okay, Cause that's what I was going to ask you.
I think a lot of times peoplethink well, okay, if you're not
going to smoke the cannabis,well then the only other option
is for you to have a gummy, andit seems like everybody and
their mama is popping gummies.
But what are the facts on that?
Are edibles something forchildren, or do we stay away
from that?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So that is where you get into a gray area.
A good area of concern.
So, and edibles is an area ofconcern because if, say, an
adult in a home with childrenpurchased edibles off the street
and not a licensed dispensary,we've seen the products look
(14:04):
much like everyday candies.
And so the issue runs into themarketing strategy with the
products.
However, the edibles forchildren isn't a problem.
Again, there's where yourdosage would come into play, and
that is the most importantthing I like to stress with
children is that their dosage isgoing to be much, much lower
than that of an adult fromaccidental, unintentional
(14:27):
consumption.
And those are when adults haveedible products and that
packaging, say, looks like aSnick-A-Bar, your typical Kit
Kat or something like that.
I mean, as you see, these shopspop up, you look at some of
(14:48):
their edible items and you knowthat packaging is very familiar,
and so that's been the issue.
The Journal of Pediatricsrecently they conducted an
overall study in the country andthere was a 140% increase in
accidental pediatric exposureswhere cannabis remains illegal.
(15:09):
And so again, those are goingto be in those markets where
they're trying to operate underthe radar, and that is where the
concern comes in with avoidingedibles in children.
Yeah, and I never heard oftransdermal patches.
So you were saying, with thatit releases a certain dosage,
(15:30):
right?
So for adults, think of, let'ssay, a lidocaine patch or the
icy hot patches.
Those are going to be yourtransdermal patches with your
medical cannabis in thestickiness.
I'm trying to make it as simpleas possible without making it.
It's going to be in the easiestpart of the transdermal patch
(15:50):
and it is a controlled releaseof that medical cannabis into
the dermis layer of the skinthat travels.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So really the biggest difference between pediatric
and adult is that dosage andjust making sure that it's
through, as we all should bedoing.
It's medical, it's controlled,it's not off of the street.
They're aware of all of thedifferent usages, but again, the
biggest thing that I heard isnot having a high dosage.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Correct.
That is the biggest differencewith pediatric medical cannabis
use opposed to a dose.
Now, by rule of thumb, it isalways high CBD, low THC, and
that's because CBD hasdemonstrated therapeutic effects
without that psychoactiveeffect, and so again, we just
(16:41):
you could take that into a ruleof thumb with dosing in children
.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Wonderful.
So one of the things before wego, I definitely wanted to talk
about the current legallandscape for pediatric medical
cannabis.
So I live in North Carolina.
It's not legal for recreationor medical, but I know that it's
legal for medical use inFlorida and some of these other
places.
So is there anything that weshould be aware of if I'm in a
(17:07):
state where it's legal but thenI go to a state that it's not,
or the difference between stateand federal, the biggest
highlights that you want tobring in that area?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Okay, so that is a complex landscape and again,
like you mentioned, that isgoing to vary from state to
state.
As of 2024, there were 34states that have legal medical
cannabis and so, again, fromstate to state it is different.
Most states that have legalizedmedical cannabis.
There are differentrequirements and rules that we
(17:37):
have to adhere to.
So you know, for those peoplethat are traveling who are
medical cannabis patients, weask that you know if you travel.
I'm going to say three terms Iwould like people to remember,
and that'd be enumerated powers,the commerce clause and
federalism.
So there are criminalimplications when we have to
(18:01):
travel with our medical cannabison us going from state to state
.
And then, for those familiesand parents with children, we
always you know rule of thumbtell them keep your
documentation on you at alltimes you can to identify that
need.
And again, it'd be up to thefeds to decide how they will
(18:24):
prosecute, if they choose toprosecute.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, no, I think that's good for adult or
pediatric.
You know like to always makesure that you have your
documentation, make sure you'reaware of your rights and you
know and talk to your childrenabout it.
You know, I think to be astransparent as possible and
being aware is the biggest thing.
So, keisha, just like that,we're to the end of the show,
(18:49):
friend, so you know I'm going tobe bringing you back quarterly.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yes, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So many things to talk about.
So thank you so much, keisha.
I know that you're graduatingon my son's birthday, may 20th,
so I'm not going to forget that.
Can't believe it's gone by sofast, because it was a two-year
program, correct.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yes, yes.
So we are here.
The end is near.
I'm excited.
It's a wonderful time to be,you know, a part of this program
, because there's a lot of talkabout rescheduling.
So, thank you, and everybodyout there wish me well.
Reach out to me on LinkedIn.
We can have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yes, Lakeisha.
Please drop your informationthat you're willing to share.
How can people find you?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Sure, like I said, I'm on LinkedIn.
You can find me on Facebook,but I prefer LinkedIn.
Look me up by my last name,m-o-t-o-n, and, like I said, we
can go from there.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Thank you so much, friend.
I want to thank you again forcoming on taking time out of
your busy day.
I want to thank the V Team forlistening and tuning into
Veronica Edwards' show.
We are back and you can listento all prior shows at
veronicaedwardsbuzzsproutcom orat our inaugural sponsor site,
balancevirtuallycom.
Welcome to the Veronica Edwards show where we
have fun financial conversationsthat everyone listening can
apply to their personal andprofessional life.
I'm your host, veronica Edwards, so excited to be back season
five in 2025.
This is our first show with aguest being completely
(00:29):
independent, and BalanceVirtually LLC, my business, is
the inaugural sponsor, so checkus out at balancevirtuallycom.
And if you guys did not listento the season five initial
kickoff episode, which is amonologueologue, I shared with
everybody that we've been offthe air since September 27th due
(00:49):
to Hurricane Helene affectingus here in Western North
Carolina and so many in theCarolinas, florida, in the
Southeast, and unfortunately,because of the storm, biz Radio
had to close its doors.
So, first and foremost, I wantto thank the creator and owner
of Biz Radio, matt Matan, forgiving me a chance four years
(01:15):
ago with starting the VeronicaEdwards show back in 2021.
And even before, covid,allowing me to be on the radio
show when it was actually inperson.
So, again, I would not be hereif it wasn't for Biz Radio and I
just want to thank them againfor helping me transition this
independently.
So from Biz Radio, I still havemy amazing producer, mr Aaron
(01:39):
Matan, who's going to also be onthe show because he's helping
me get my concealed carrylicense to carry a firearm and
he provides classes and safetytraining for anybody that's in
the Western North Carolina areabut can also travel to you.
So stay tuned for that.
Also want to shout out my brandambassador, ms Jylan Farr, who
(02:00):
does all my social media and mynewsletters.
So we are really excited tostart this new journey with the
Veronica Edwards Show being 100%independent.
So I definitely want to shoutout the V Team, the listeners.
During this four month hiatuswe had over 300 downloads, so we
are less than 20 downloads fromhitting 5,000 downloads.
(02:21):
So this is perfect timing toget 5,000 downloads.
Season five.
So head on over again tobalancevirtuallycom, where you
can see prior shows, or toveronicaedwardsbuzzsproutcom.
But let's jump into today'sshow.
So today's guest is a friend ofthe show and a friend of mine
for over 20 years.
(02:42):
She was a guest on the showJuly 2024, so just last year and
in a very short period of time.
This guest is my fourth mostdownloaded show of all time,
darling.
So I had to bring her back tokick off season five.
And again, this guest is amaster's candidate in the
(03:03):
medical cannabis science andtherapeutics program at the
University of Maryland School ofPharmacy.
So we're going to have somegreat content today.
So, without further ado, Iwould like to introduce today's
guest, my very good friend, msLakeisha Moten.
Welcome, friend.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Hi, friend, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Thank you, and I just want to highlight that this is
we're recording this the end ofJanuary, so there's been a lot
going on, as you guys know inthe news.
So I really appreciate you,keisha, for making time out of
your busy schedule andeverything that's going on,
because if you guys haven'tlistened to the show, please do
from July, where you understandKeisha's background in politics
(03:42):
and where she works and all thatfun stuff.
So this is a very interestingtime in politics, but we're
going to be focusing on thepositive.
So, keisha, let us know whathave you been doing since last
July?
How was school?
When's graduation?
All that fun stuff.
What feedback have you gottenfrom the show?
Fill us in, friend.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yes, so since last July I've been busy, but good,
well, good.
Graduation is Tuesday, may 20th, very exciting time.
Since we last spoken, thefeedback was warm, a lot of
reception.
It's clear that this is a topicthat people want to learn about
(04:25):
, that people want to gain moreinformation about.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Very excited and thank you for having me back.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yes, absolutely.
And now that we're independentand we could talk about whatever
we want to talk about, I wantto have Keisha on on a
reoccurring basis.
So today's show I wanted totalk about a particular subject
matter, but in the future Iwould love if Lakeisha could
come give us some insights andshe's the subject matter expert
(04:52):
in medical cannabis science andtherapeutics things that a lot
of people don't realize asuseful for them and to educate
them, just to open their mind,not saying that when people
finish listening that they'regoing to run and try to get a
medical card, but that they arejust more educated.
So we really appreciate youmaking time to educate folks.
(05:14):
So today I asked Ms Moten if wecould talk about the use of
medical cannabis for children,and I know that's a very
interesting topic.
I, of course, am interestedbecause I have a nine-year-old
son who is very active and busylike his mother, so you know
asking for a friend about someof these topics.
(05:35):
So today we're going to discussthe conditions for medical
cannabis use for young folks,minors, the types of use, the
difference between pediatric andadult use and, of course, the
legal landscape, because we knowthings are different state to
state and federally.
So, keisha, I would love if youcan just start us off and just
(05:55):
kind of just tell us theoverview of conditions that we
use medical cannabis to treatchildren for.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, sure.
So medical cannabis has and isbeing used to treat children
with epilepsy children withepilepsy, ASD, autism spectrum
disorder.
It's being used to treat cancerand cancer-induced nausea and
vomiting, and it's also beingused for chronic pain in
(06:24):
children.
So the conditions you know arevery concerning.
These are conditions thatimpacts a child's quality of
life and well-being, and so whatwe're seeing is an influx of
parents and families looking atholistic option and treatments
for their loved ones, and that'scompletely understandable.
(06:45):
So I'll jump right into thefirst one, and that's epilepsy.
Epilepsy has been very excitingbecause in 2018, the FDA
released this treatment drugcalled Epidiolex, and Epidiolex
has been very popular in thepediatric epilepsy care field.
So Epidiolex is the firstplant-derived purified
(07:12):
pharmaceutical-grade CBD, and ithas shown remarkable results in
treating rare forms of epilepsy, particularly Dravet syndrome
and also the Lennox-Gastautsyndrome, LGS.
Recently, there was a studypublished in 2021 in Epilepsy
and Behavior, and that studyfollowed 607 patients, and those
(07:37):
patients hadtreatment-resistant epilepsy and
they had failed to respond toan average of eight
anti-epileptic drugs.
So, that study in 2021 foundthat 52% of those 607 patients
they experienced more than a 50%reduction in their seizure
frequency.
27% of those patients achievedmore than 75% reduction in
(08:01):
seizures.
And then also they reported aquality of life improvements
were reported in 80% of thepatients, and so numbers and
information like that we see howmedical cannabis is a viable
treatment for children sufferingwith these rare forms of
(08:21):
epilepsy.
Also, for autism spectrumdisorder in 2019, there was a
study published in ScientificReports and that study found
that cannabis treatment led tosignificant improvement in
agitation and behavior problemsof 61% of the patients, and
again, that was in 2019 forautism.
(08:43):
When you talk about cancer inchildren, unfortunately we see
that a lot here and so againit's one of those things where
we're looking for an improvementin the quality of life and
preservation of life.
So with cancer and pediatriccancer treatment, medical
cannabis has shown potential inmanaging symptoms like nausea
(09:04):
and appetite loss, and there'san interesting study that was
done a 2020 comprehensive reviewand it was published in the
Journal of Pain and SymptomManagement and they found that
cannabinoids significantlyreduce CINV and that's again
chemotherapy-induced nausea andvomiting in their pediatric
(09:25):
patients.
Two years ago, there wasanother research study and it
was published in the Journal ofClinical Oncology, and they
studied 245 cancer patients whoexperienced severe nausea
despite their conventionalanti-emetics, and the results
from that 2022 study showed that84% of the participants
reported improved nausea control.
(09:46):
We're talking about kids here.
Children it's very importantyou know we have these
conversations and begin to lookat the scientific data, the
evidence based these studies andclinical improvements we're
seeing.
And so, again from that 2022study, 72 percent of the
(10:06):
participants, they were able toreduce or discontinue their
traditional anti-emetics.
And again we see the quality oflife scores and those improved
by an average of 37%.
Like I mentioned, chronic painis another issue we deal and use
medical cannabis with inpediatrics.
There was a study done in 2023by the Journal of Pain Research
(10:29):
and there they examined over1500 patients with chronic pain
who had failed to respond toconventional treatments and some
key findings from that study.
They noted that 65% of thepatients reported significant
pain reduction, 47% reduced oreliminated their medication
(10:49):
intake and again, the quality oflife improved and that was
reported by 71% of the patients.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Wow, keisha, that's a lot of good facts and I like
the biggest thing that I'mhearing.
What you're saying isevidence-based quality of life.
Unfortunately, we've all hadpeople and loved ones that we
know and care about that eitherhave chronic pain, have cancer,
I mean hell.
I feel like I'm autisticsometimes, you know, and
(11:17):
definitely I've had a familymember that had epilepsy.
Now they've passed, but I thinkabout wow, I wonder how that
would have affected them if theywere able to have this use, and
I think a lot of times peoplejust think well, what are you
going to do?
Are you just going to roll up ajoint and give it to a child?
And that's something I want totalk about too.
(11:38):
There's so many differentproducts that you can recommend
for pediatric use, so I think alot of people one.
I wanted to make sure that wegave evidence-based facts.
You cited so many placesscientific reports, the Journal
of Pain and Research.
All of this is fact, evidencebased, and most of what you've
quoted is over five years old,so I don't want people to think
(12:00):
that this is just willy, nilly,loosey, goosey, we're just
pulling this out of thin air.
This is facts.
So, keisha, I would love foryou to share about the different
types of cannabis products thatare recommended for pediatric
use, because that's what I'minterested in.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So pediatrics and products is going to be the same
spectrum or array of productsthat's available for adults and,
as we know, for adults you haveoils, tinctures, capsules,
there are transdermal patchesand we also have tablets,
disposable tablets.
So again, the options forpediatrics who may use cannabis
(12:39):
medical cannabis products areabout the same.
It typically depends on whatthe parents are looking to
accomplish.
So with oils and tinctures,you'll get more precise dosing
for your child those who opt fortransdermal patches, that
offers a controlled release ofthe medication, and then for
(13:01):
oral capsules or dissolvabletablets.
That gives us a standardizeddosing options.
So, again, the same productoptions for children that are
available for adults.
Wow, so the dosage is thedifference.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Okay, Cause that's what I was going to ask you.
I think a lot of times peoplethink well, okay, if you're not
going to smoke the cannabis,well then the only other option
is for you to have a gummy, andit seems like everybody and
their mama is popping gummies.
But what are the facts on that?
Are edibles something forchildren, or do we stay away
from that?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So that is where you get into a gray area.
A good area of concern.
So, and edibles is an area ofconcern because if, say, an
adult in a home with childrenpurchased edibles off the street
and not a licensed dispensary,we've seen the products look
(14:04):
much like everyday candies.
And so the issue runs into themarketing strategy with the
products.
However, the edibles forchildren isn't a problem.
Again, there's where yourdosage would come into play, and
that is the most importantthing I like to stress with
children is that their dosage isgoing to be much, much lower
than that of an adult fromaccidental, unintentional
(14:27):
consumption.
And those are when adults haveedible products and that
packaging, say, looks like aSnick-A-Bar, your typical Kit
Kat or something like that.
I mean, as you see, these shopspop up, you look at some of
(14:48):
their edible items and you knowthat packaging is very familiar,
and so that's been the issue.
The Journal of Pediatricsrecently they conducted an
overall study in the country andthere was a 140% increase in
accidental pediatric exposureswhere cannabis remains illegal.
(15:09):
And so again, those are goingto be in those markets where
they're trying to operate underthe radar, and that is where the
concern comes in with avoidingedibles in children.
Yeah, and I never heard oftransdermal patches.
So you were saying, with thatit releases a certain dosage,
(15:30):
right?
So for adults, think of, let'ssay, a lidocaine patch or the
icy hot patches.
Those are going to be yourtransdermal patches with your
medical cannabis in thestickiness.
I'm trying to make it as simpleas possible without making it.
It's going to be in the easiestpart of the transdermal patch
(15:50):
and it is a controlled releaseof that medical cannabis into
the dermis layer of the skinthat travels.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So really the biggest difference between pediatric
and adult is that dosage andjust making sure that it's
through, as we all should bedoing.
It's medical, it's controlled,it's not off of the street.
They're aware of all of thedifferent usages, but again, the
biggest thing that I heard isnot having a high dosage.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Correct.
That is the biggest differencewith pediatric medical cannabis
use opposed to a dose.
Now, by rule of thumb, it isalways high CBD, low THC, and
that's because CBD hasdemonstrated therapeutic effects
without that psychoactiveeffect, and so again, we just
(16:41):
you could take that into a ruleof thumb with dosing in children
.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Wonderful.
So one of the things before wego, I definitely wanted to talk
about the current legallandscape for pediatric medical
cannabis.
So I live in North Carolina.
It's not legal for recreationor medical, but I know that it's
legal for medical use inFlorida and some of these other
places.
So is there anything that weshould be aware of if I'm in a
(17:07):
state where it's legal but thenI go to a state that it's not,
or the difference between stateand federal, the biggest
highlights that you want tobring in that area?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Okay, so that is a complex landscape and again,
like you mentioned, that isgoing to vary from state to
state.
As of 2024, there were 34states that have legal medical
cannabis and so, again, fromstate to state it is different.
Most states that have legalizedmedical cannabis.
There are differentrequirements and rules that we
(17:37):
have to adhere to.
So you know, for those peoplethat are traveling who are
medical cannabis patients, weask that you know if you travel.
I'm going to say three terms Iwould like people to remember,
and that'd be enumerated powers,the commerce clause and
federalism.
So there are criminalimplications when we have to
(18:01):
travel with our medical cannabison us going from state to state
.
And then, for those familiesand parents with children, we
always you know rule of thumbtell them keep your
documentation on you at alltimes you can to identify that
need.
And again, it'd be up to thefeds to decide how they will
(18:24):
prosecute, if they choose toprosecute.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, no, I think that's good for adult or
pediatric.
You know like to always makesure that you have your
documentation, make sure you'reaware of your rights and you
know and talk to your childrenabout it.
You know, I think to be astransparent as possible and
being aware is the biggest thing.
So, keisha, just like that,we're to the end of the show,
(18:49):
friend, so you know I'm going tobe bringing you back quarterly.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yes, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So many things to talk about.
So thank you so much, keisha.
I know that you're graduatingon my son's birthday, may 20th,
so I'm not going to forget that.
Can't believe it's gone by sofast, because it was a two-year
program, correct.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yes, yes.
So we are here.
The end is near.
I'm excited.
It's a wonderful time to be,you know, a part of this program
, because there's a lot of talkabout rescheduling.
So, thank you, and everybodyout there wish me well.
Reach out to me on LinkedIn.
We can have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yes, Lakeisha.
Please drop your informationthat you're willing to share.
How can people find you?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Sure, like I said, I'm on LinkedIn.
You can find me on Facebook,but I prefer LinkedIn.
Look me up by my last name,m-o-t-o-n, and, like I said, we
can go from there.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Thank you so much, friend.
I want to thank you again forcoming on taking time out of
your busy day.
I want to thank the V Team forlistening and tuning into
Veronica Edwards' show.
We are back and you can listento all prior shows at
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