January 25, 2025 • 47 mins
In this episode, Geoff and Laura are honored to welcome Navy CDR Robert Green to discuss his book "Defending the Constitution Behind Enemy Lines," the episode explores medical freedom, vaccine developments, and ethical implications. Personal stories, such as Navy SEAL Daniel's attempted resistance to vaccine mandates, emphasize the immense pressures faced by service members, and the role of faith while serving our Nation. It concludes with gratitude, urging steadfastness in faith and solidarity for a compassionate and united world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Men and women all around fought and died for your
freedom.
It's real fucked up how thegovernment treats them.
They just sit back and theywon't even feed them.
They lay on the ground feelingdefeated.
Lord, they paid their dues andthey beat the enemy while
they're all alone fighting PTSDBecause freedom ain't free.
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But in reality, you entitleda**holes Are handed everything.
We should all rise up and alljust agree that division ain't
the way that it's supposed to be.
Lord, it's a damn shame whatthe world's gotten to.
We, the people like you, and we, the people like me, should
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just wake up and realize it'strue, cause it is oh, it is
Living in a new world With anold soul.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Welcome everybody and thank you for listening to the
Veteran Show.
We know you could be anywhereelse and doing anything else at
this time.
Oh, oh, oh for letting us havethis opportunity to sit behind
this microphone and talk to youevery week.
Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It's been quite a journey, for sure.
We never expected to be doingthis.
You would have told me thatwe're sitting behind a radio or
a microphone.
I would have laughed at you.
Do we have a good lawyer?
I don't know, but here we are,and so God is good.
Thank you for joining us.
As my husband said and I am,laura If you have listened to
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the Veterans Show before, youknow that we open with prayer,
and the reason we do this isbecause, first, we want to give
glory to God and, two, we'reveterans.
Everything that we do, everyceremony, always starts with a
prayer.
So if you can bow your headswith us, please, heavenly Father
, I want to take thisopportunity to first give you
all glory.
Thank you for everything thatyou do, for your love for us and
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your gift of your son.
Father, I want to lift up yourwarriors.
You know who they are, andthere are many of them.
Sometimes they feel a littlebit alone, but they're not.
I thank you for them, father.
I thank you for instilling yourspirit inside of them and thank
you for their courage.
Father, I pray for them everysingle day and I pray, and I
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know that you will protect themand you will, in time, you will
reward them.
Thank you for all that you do,and I pray all of this in Jesus'
name, my Lord and Savior, therisen King, amen.
So we do.
Thank you for joining us.
We had a pre-recorded show lastweek and it was with Captain
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Seth Keschel and it was amazinglistening to him, but I was a
little bit under the weather.
I know a lot of people areunder the weather right now, so
if you hear me sniffling, I'msorry.
I just wanted to let you guysknow that before we get into the
show, because you know I don'tknow if I sneeze or sniffle, but
there's a lot going on outthere, like a lot of going on
right, just so much.
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I mean, even on the, justbefore we walked in the studio,
my husband was showing me arecording about the pardons and
stuff like that Just overload ofinformation.
But we know that you can'talways pay attention to all the
news and the politics going on,because you have life going on.
You have sickness, you havefinances, you have family.
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You have just life, and we knowthat life doesn't always go the
way we want it to.
Sometimes we get into darkmoments and we just want you to
know that you're not alone inthat moment.
We've all been there.
We do know that we're going toget through it.
There is always light at theend of the tunnel.
So we just want to tell you tostay strong, hang in there and
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always reach out for help.
Never stay locked in your ownbrain.
That's the worst place to do.
Stay at.
So just make sure you reach outto somebody.
Tell somebody that you'rehurting, tell somebody if you're
in crisis.
Just somehow reach out.
Okay, one of the ways that youcan do that is you can dial 988
and then option one, or you cantext 838255.
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You can also chat online.
You can go towwwveteranscrisislinenet.
But those are three of the mainways that you can do it.
There's also so many freeveteran charities, and if a
veterans charity tries to charge, you run from that charity.
Okay, there's too many freecharities, but we have a few
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that we have featured on theshow which basically cover all
the main issues that veteransdeal with, and so I'm going to
quickly go through these.
These, as I said, are free andthey are nationwide.
You don't have to be here inMaryland to utilize these.
So one is Heroes Bridge.
They have the National BattleBuddy Call-In Center.
Typically they help veterans 65and older, but for their
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National Battle Buddy Call-InCenter.
They'll help all veterans andyou can call that number at
1-800-653-8387.
If you're dealing withpost-traumatic stress, we highly
recommend Warfighter Advance.
They are an amazing program.
Their number is 202-239-7395.
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If a veteran is dealing withhomelessness, we recommend the
Baltimore Station.
Their number is 410-752-2254.
If you're dealing with financesas a veteran you're having some
issues with finances you cancontact Operation First Response
Peggy over there is amazing, agift from God.
That number is 1-888-289-0280.
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Man, that took me a hard time.
It's like I got dyslexia withthat number, but 888-289-0280.
And if you're dealing withaddiction issues, always you can
go visit AA If you go to theironline site, which is wwwaaorg.
Or you can also go to CelebrateRecovery.
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Celebrate Recovery is afaith-based addiction program
and I've heard amazing thingsabout them.
So either AA or CelebrateRecovery, but AA, you can go to
a meeting online 24-7, so youdon't have to wait.
But my personal favorite and thething that has worked for me
and I will always recommend toeverybody, is God and his son,
jesus Christ.
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It is amazing what God does,isn't it?
I don't know, he just parted ametal sea coming over here.
We drive 80 miles and we werein some pretty bad traffic.
495 was the express lane isshut down going north pretty bad
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traffic.
495 was the express lane isshut down going north.
So when I say God parted themetal sea, he most certainly did
.
But you know what?
That's just a small thing.
God has changed my heart.
He has literally softened myheart, and I know he can do
yours.
And once he does that, man, itis amazing.
So if you are in a dark spot,might I recommend calling out to
Jesus Christ and I guaranteeyou he'll answer.
And I know he'll answer becauseI just told you he'll answer.
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I have that much faith that Godwill answer you.
But just please, everybody,make sure to reach out.
We do want to congratulate PeteHegseth, the new secretary.
Yes, yay, woo-hoo, I just hadall these happy dances, so huge
congratulations.
Now, mr Secretary of Defense,please go get her done.
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Okay, we do want to celebratetoday too, because we got an
email this week from VeteransAffairs and it is death of DEI,
DEI.
And if you encounter any DEIfrom the Veterans Affairs,
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there's a website that you canreport it and that's DEIATRUTH
at OPMgov.
So DEIATRUTH at OPMgov, yeah,if you encountered DEI at the VA
, that's where you need to go toreport it and they want you to
report it within 10 days.
So yay, that's pretty cool.
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But, like I said earlier, thishas been a journey and we wanted
to kind of talk to you aboutthat.
There's a lot of just beliefs Alot of people dealing with, I
don't know.
We're all just kind of talk toyou about that.
There's a lot of just beliefs alot of people dealing with, I
don't know.
We're all just kind ofwondering.
I think a lot of people aresearching for purpose and
wondering our place in the world, and so I kind of I want to
talk about that for a secondbefore we go into the rest of
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our show.
You know, there's drones flyingover and there's always people
talking about aliens and isthere life and stuff of that
nature.
And to you people, um, I wouldlike to give you a different
perspective.
Um, I choose to believe in abeing higher than me that can
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choose to create a life in awomb and can choose to put a
certain soul in that little baby, a destination, almost.
You know he chooses what soulhe wants in what body, and he
did that with Jesus Christ.
So I would much prefer acreator that can choose a soul
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than maybe some alien out therethat might want to come say hi
by accident.
I just I think it's so muchmore in depth that we are chosen
, that we have purpose, and Isee one of the ways that there's
purpose, or one of the examplesthat I see, is in the Bible.
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It does talk about Moses.
Now, I don't know if many ofyou know, but Moses was a
murderer.
He murdered somebody and hefled, yet God still chose him.
And what's interesting aboutMoses's story?
Everybody knows that he partedthe Red Sea, or, you know, he
stood up to Pharaoh orda-da-da-da-da, or he saw a
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burning bush.
And something about thatburning bush story that a lot of
people skip over or I'venoticed, at least, I was never
taught is as Moses wasencountering that burning bush,
he kept giving excuses to God.
God was calling him, saying Ihave this plan for you, and he
said well, I can't speak well, Ican't do this well.
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And finally God was upset andhe said look, don't you see you
can.
Your brother, aaron, is comingnow.
And what's interesting with thestory of Moses is that it never
says where Aaron came from.
Aaron just showed up, so Godhad it covered from the
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beginning.
Moses's brother, random brother, found him on a mountaintop, as
he was, you know, having hissheep with him watching a
burning bush, and just hisbrother walked up Like where did
he come from?
It's just proof that God hasplans, and we can't fully see
all of the plans that he has,but he's got it covered.
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So I just want you to thinkabout a life is chosen, a life
is used, and a life is precious,and your life is precious and
all of our lives are precious,and so that's just my change of
perspective.
Ok, tonight we have a phenomenalguest.
We have had quite a few of hisfriends on here, but he wrote.
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It is Commander Robert A Greenand he wrote Defending the
Constitution Behind Enemy Lines.
It's a story of hope for thosewho love liberty.
Now, hey, I think the Bible isthe best book, but I think maybe
the second best book is the oneDefending the Constitution by
Commander Green.
If you are interested in havinga copy of this book, you can
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call WCBM, call in line410-922-6680, and we will mail
you a free copy.
Okay, so on us, we will mailyou a copy of Robert Greene's
book, or Commander Greene's.
I'm sorry about that.
Before we go into break andbefore we bring our guests on,
we are going to play an excerptof the book and it's four
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minutes long.
It is long, I'm going to warnyou.
It is difficult to listen tovery, but it needs to be heard,
and it's an explanation of thefetal cells.
Everybody talks about whatfetal cells are and now you can
hear what, where they actuallycome from and how they're used
in vaccines.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Abortion is such a politicized issue in today's
society that I became convincedthat my chain of command would
be dismissive of my religiousbeliefs on the matter.
My chain of command would bedismissive of my religious
beliefs on the matter.
What they likely did not knowwas that the abortions performed
to produce fetal cells forvaccines are done on human
babies whose hearts are stillbeating when the genetic
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material is extracted.
Having a beating heart is soimportant to producing usable
cells that a device known as aLangendorff apparatus was
developed to keep a heartbeating even after it has been
extracted.
Since it is nearly impossibleto find a detailed explanation
of how to prepare human subjectsfor the Langendorff apparatus,
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a 2017 review of the procedurefor mice is useful to understand
how it works.
Review of the procedure formice is useful to understand how
it works.
In the article, the authordescribes how it is important to
keep the animal free fromstressful stimuli and recommends
protocols of anesthesia.
Once calm, the animal is placedin a supine position and the
diaphragm is cut using atransabdominal incision to
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expose the thoracic cavity.
Cut using a transabdominalincision to expose the thoracic
cavity, the beating heart isremoved and placed in an
ice-cold chemical solution torinse off the blood.
This will temporarily stop theheartbeat and is a time period
that must be minimized.
Finally, the heart is connectedto the Langendorf apparatus by
the aorta and a nutrient-richoxygenated solution is pumped
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through the heart.
The heart will start beatingagain within seconds after being
connected to the Langendorffapparatus.
The above description wasprovided as part of a study of
mouse hearts.
However, we have evidence thatthe same Langendorff techniques
were used to study and extractmaterial from human hearts as
well.
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A 2012 Stanford study of humancardiac progenitor cells
revealed that the source of thehuman hearts being studied was a
company called Stem Express andthat a Langendorff apparatus
was used to procure the humanfetal hearts in question.
A 1999 article in the PediatricResearch Journal provided much
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greater detail about the humansubjects being studied.
The article describes a studyof six human hearts that were
extracted from human beings atbetween 18 to 22 weeks of
gestation.
The authors note that the fetalhearts were aseptically
obtained after electivetermination of normal pregnancy
by dilation and evacuation, andthe hearts, weighing three to
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five grams each, wereimmediately dissected from the
thoracic cavity with the greatvessels intact, and transported
to our laboratory within 15minutes.
It is unconscionable to me thatliving human beings, who happen
to still be in the womb, are notprotected as persons under the
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14th Amendment.
In light of how much more wenow understand about the science
and gestation of human life, Ibelieve this element of the law
is ripe for review by the courts.
The law is ripe for review bythe courts.
Regardless of fetal personhood,if these babies are evacuated
from the womb with their heartsstill beating, they are
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considered born and areprotected by Section 1 of the
14th Amendment, which states Allpersons born in the United
States are citizens of theUnited States and of the state
wherein they reside.
No state shall make or enforceany law which shall abridge the
privileges or immunities ofcitizens of the United States.
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Nor shall any state deprive anyperson of life, liberty or
property without due process oflaw.
If abortion practitioners arefollowing the standard procedure
for use of the Langendorfdevice by vivisecting living
human beings outside the womb,they are committing murder under
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every law we currently have andunder the current understanding
of the 14th Amendment.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Welcome back everybody and thank you for
listening.
I am today because somebodyprayed.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Welcome back everybody and thank you for
listening to the Veteran Show.
If you're in crisis, pleasepick up the phone, dial 988,
press option 1, or text 838255.
Just remember you're neveralone.
There's always somebody outthere that wants to hear your
voice.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
There always is.
Thank you, baby, for givingthat out.
As I said before the break, wehave an amazing guest tonight.
I am absolutely honored to betalking to him, and it has been
a long journey.
We are pleased to introduceNavy Commander Rob Green.
Commander Green, can you hearme?
Speaker 6 (17:38):
I can hear you.
Thank you very much for havingme with you guys on your show.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Oh my gosh.
Thank you for taking the time,brother, and for everything
you've done.
What a journey you have been on.
Speaking of the journey, if youdon't mind telling everybody a
little bit about you and yourmilitary career and what
inspired you to join the Navy,and just a little bit about your
military career?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yeah, thank you very much.
I really appreciate that.
So a little bit about mybackground.
I'm a surface warfare officer,a ship driver, I was on
destroyers for a bit.
I was the executive officer ofa coastal riverine squadron when
the mandate went down.
For my personal belief system,my conscience, and mainly
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because it didn't make a lot ofsense and we should be able to
make our own medical decisions,it's called therapeutic
proportionality.
When you decide that, hey,you're going to take something
for your own health and it mustbe proportional, the risks and
the rewards they need to beproportional, and based on that
it's a belief I have and if it'snot proportional, the risks and
the rewards they need to beproportional.
And you know, based on that andit's a belief I have and if
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it's not proportional, the risksdon't outweigh the benefit that
is supposedly offered bysomething, then I have a right
to make my own medical decision.
So based on that right, youknow, I refused to participate
in the COVID mandates and wasfired from my position, spent
seven months at home.
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Only job was to call in and theymade sure I was alive and
eventually they stopped takingthat call and then we started
winning in court and during allthat time I was writing, I was
talking to service members.
I was trying to be very publicand make sure anybody out there
who needed help, anybody thatwas struggling with this, those
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with moral injury, that they hada voice out there, that they
could find somebody that theycould connect to.
And we built a pretty massivenetwork of service members who
resisted this and it was verybeneficial to so many people,
gave so many people hope, andyou know eventually they called
me up and said hey, we can'tfire you.
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The courts have not permitted usto do that, so I guess we're
going to have to put you back towork.
So they gave me a job again andI've been back at it in the
Navy doing my very best, and, uh, so that's that's what brings
me with you today.
So still active duty and andstill fighting for the
constitution in every way I can,and that includes
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extracurricular things like this, where I go out and talk about
the things that we did right,the things that we did wrong, um
, and the things that you know.
Hopefully, with enoughawareness, we'll never be in
this position again, and sothat's why I keep doing this in
my spare time.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Well, thank you for that and for everything you've
been through.
It's taken.
I can't even imagine the amountof strength that it's taken.
All the decisions that you'vehad to make is just mind
boggling.
But thank you for that, fordoing that.
I got to tell you the day thatyou guys dropped this
accountability, I was super sickand I launched out of bed.
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It was late at night and Ilaunched out of bed and went
running to my husband to showhim.
So that's how powerful it wasto me and I thank you for that.
If anybody wants to read themilitary accountability, it's
www.
Militaryaccountabilitynet.
And again, defending theconstitution behind enemy lines.
For Commander Green's book, youtook a strong stance against
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the COVID-19 vaccine mandate.
What were the main reasonsbehind your decision and can you
tell us a little bit about that?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Yeah, so it was like I described.
You know my belief intherapeutic proportionality.
You know, if you get a scratchon your arm, you don't amputate
your arm based on the risk ofgetting gangrene, and I know
that's a bit of an extremeexample, but we had the data
already, from when the mandatewas voluntary, that demonstrated
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that it wasn't very effective.
Mandate was voluntary thatdemonstrated that it wasn't very
effective and we already haddata and we had anecdotal
evidence of people becominginjured by this.
And it was ignored by everybody.
People were being gaslit and wealready had it before the
mandate came out that it wasn'tsafe.
So it's a bit of an extremeexample the gangrene arm amputee
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thing.
Before you get the infection.
But that is a similar thoughtprocess going through my head at
the time.
Also, as you aired just a fewmoments ago from that section of
the book I wrote, they did allthe testing with fetal cells on
this and it doesn't matter howlong ago those fetal cells were
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extracted.
It is an absolute travesty,it's murder and it was
unfortunate for those who had tohear it and didn't want to hear
how graphic it is.
It is truly evil whatscientists were doing and you
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know, based on that, it wasanother reason why I could not
participate in any of this.
So those were my reasons behindit, and I would also add that my
wife, mary Claire, was a hugepart of me, standing up, believe
it or not.
I don't like confrontation, I'mnot big on it, and so I'll
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share a quick story about her.
We went in to go vote in the2020 election and in to go vote
in the 2020 election and youknow my wife and I she's a hard
charger, she is so strong.
She, you know, never wore amask.
She kind of understood early onthat it wasn't right and it was
adding to the lie.
It was helping build the liefor those who were putting it on
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and you know who didn't believein it, kind of going against
their own.
You know the little twinge ofconscience like, ah, I'm going
to do this and go along, getalong.
For her that was not even aquestion.
You know she was confrontingstore managers and doctor's
office staff and anything andanywhere else she was going if
she needed to go somewhere.
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So you know she was the leaderin this for me.
So, anyway, we're at 2020election going in.
We live in a at the time, we'reliving in a deep blue state, so
mask mandates abide and youknow she's not going to do it,
and you know.
So we're sitting in the cardiscussing, okay, well you know,
I don't know, I'm telling her,you know, maybe I, you know,
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maybe I'll just mail in myballot.
You know we had concerns aboutmail-in ballot fraud stuff going
on as well at the same time andshe turned to me and was like
you coward and that for me thatwas the thing.
It was like, oh man, I'm goingto have to really dig in and be
a man about this.
So for me she's the, she's thepowerful force behind a lot of
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the things I have done.
I wish I could claim some youknow a lot of credit.
I don't wish I could claimcredit for it, because I can't.
So much of what I've done hasbeen other people encouraging me
, and then my wife behind me inall this.
So I just want to make sure thatthe credit is where it's due,
and it's to Jesus Christ, ofcourse, and to my wife, who God
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has put in my life to elicit somuch good.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Well, thank you to Mary Claire.
Did you say her name was?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Mary Claire.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Mary Claire.
Mary Claire, thank you verymuch.
There's something to be saidabout wives and what the Bible
says.
It says something about rubiesWives are equivalent to fine or
better than rubies.
So, mary Claire, a lot ofpeople have to thank you for
pushing him and thank you forlistening to her.
I find it's interesting to gointo it.
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Let me get my words outcorrectly.
In your book, I find itinteresting that we're talking
about this now, because youmentioned something about
exercising conscience.
Can you talk about that alittle bit and what you meant?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Yeah.
So it's very interesting.
In the current environment, alot of people don't understand
it, they don't see through it,but we're living in a fifth
generation war and it's a war,for hearts and minds is what it
is.
The individual human person isboth the objective and the
battleground upon which this waris fought.
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So if you have thatunderstanding, you cannot cede
ground to the enemy in your ownheart, in your own mind, in this
war, and so the little thingsthat you do to fight back are
going to make all the difference, even internally in your own
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heart and in your own mind,right?
So let me give you an example.
If you have a twinge ofconscience about something like,
hey, this is not exactly right.
If you seed ground, if youconcede on something, you're
like I'm going to go along withthis, it's not really that big
of a deal and I'm just going todo it, even though I know it's
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wrong, I know I shouldn'tparticipate in this, but it's
just easier.
You are seeding ground in thebattlefield.
This is the battlefield in yourmind, right?
You're ceding ground to theenemy, and if you want to take
the fight to the enemy, if youwant to gain ground, you
actually have to win yourselffirst.
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Win yourself first, completely,give over your heart and your
mind to good and never let anytwinge of wrong things that go
against your conscience, againstwhat's right, have any hold in
you.
And if you do that, it willshow on the outside, such as my
wife never wearing a maskanywhere, even when people would
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, you know, shame her or saymean rude things, there are
people watching.
One time my brother-in-law wentto a PTA meeting and he shared
this story with me and he wasagainst the mask, you know, but
occasionally he'd put it on justto see if it's easier to go
along.
You know, sometimes some thingsrequire.
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You know you've got to get foodfor your family or something.
You know.
There are situations where youknow you have to make a prudent
decision.
But in this case he said youknow what?
I'm going to go in therewithout it and I'm going to make
sure that you know they see me.
And this was at some point whereyou know they were starting to
relax in some places.
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This was at some point whereyou know they were starting to
relax it in some places.
Well, there were other men inthat room at this parent-teacher
conference and they werewatching him.
And then you start to see, oneby one, men in the room and it
was men men in the room takingthe mask off because they saw
one person standing up.
And so that is what we need todo you need to follow your
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conscience, you need to makesure you're not ceding ground.
And that is how we start togain ground.
We start to give an example toothers.
Give them courage so that theycan take similar stances and
hopefully win this informationwar, this fifth generation war
that's being waged against usright now.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I couldn't agree more that courage is contagious,
right?
So thank you.
So you said your brother didthat.
That was my brother-in-law.
Your brother-in-law?
Yeah, that's amazing.
I experienced that myself inTulsa.
I walked into a hospital and Irefused to wear a mask and by
the time I walked out, almosteverybody had taken off their
mask.
It was amazing.
It was.
I was tearing up.
I was so happy.
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So thank you to yourbrother-in-law, thank you to
your wife and thank you to youfor standing and giving people
courage, showing that it's OK todo that.
We don't have much time beforethe break.
I want to ask you a question.
It might seem a little bitweird.
We only have about a fewseconds.
There's chaplains in themilitary.
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There's always been chaplains.
We, even if there's a deathnotification, they send a
chaplain.
Each unit has a chaplain.
Why are there chaplains?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Why are there chaplains?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Why are there chaplains?
Yeah, I guess.
Well, maybe I should lead up tothe break and then we'll take.
We'll go to break in the quick,but I just think on it.
If we needed all thesereligious exemptions and if many
of them were disapproved, thenwhat's the point of a chaplain
in the military?
I don't.
Maybe we can discuss that afterthe break.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I can answer that probably really quick in about
30 seconds, and then we can moveon after the break.
But yeah, so the chaplains existto provide for the people who
need religious services.
They need support in variousways.
That's what they exist for.
They need support in variousways.
That's what they exist for.
But what we saw and this is whyyou're asking the question it
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sounds like what we saw werechaplains who had misprioritized
, they had disordered theirprinciples and they were putting
the institution first.
Many of them were putting theircareers first, before their
obligations to faith and to theservice that the people needed
from them, the reasons that theyactually exist.
And so that's why you ask thequestion why do we even have
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them?
Well, they're there for areason, and a very good reason,
if they are properly ordered intheir principles.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
That's a perfect answer, sir.
Thank you, we're going to takea break.
We'll be right back.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
I woke up this morning saw a world full of
trouble.
Now I thought how'd we ever getso far down and how's it ever
going to turn around?
So I turned my eyes to heaven.
I thought God, why don't you dosomething?
Well, I just couldn't bear thethought of people living in
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poverty and children sold intoslavery.
The thought disgusted me, so Ishook my fist at heaven.
People living in poverty,children sold into slavery the
thought disgusted me, so I shookmy fist.
In heaven.
I said God, why don't you dosomething?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
He said I did, I created you.
Welcome back everybody andthank you for listening to the
Veteran's Show.
If you're in crisis, pick upthe phone, dial 988, press
Option 1, or text 838255.
Just remember you're neveralone.
There's always somebody outthere who wants to hear your
voice.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Thank you, babe.
It's true we do, and so reachout.
We still have our guest on theline, commander Rob Green.
Thank you for staying with usthrough the break and for your
time tonight and for everythingthat you've done.
You know you have a lot ofstories in your book of fellow
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veterans, fellow active duty.
I hear you know the words ofduring COVID keep repeating in
my mind of everybody, keepalways saying it will help, the
vaccine will help more than hurt.
It will help more than hurt.
The benefits outweigh the risks, and that just really catches
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me.
So we've already establishedwhat fetal cells really are,
that those are baby, actual baby, baby heartbeats that are
taking out their body.
Still being this audience, I'veshared with them a news article
I've spoken about a few times.
I shared it on our X accountfrom the New York Post of a baby
that was captured smilinginside the wound womb.
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It was reacting to its father'svoice.
It was the most amazing thing.
If you have a chance, people togo out there and look at this
article from the New York Post.
Baby Smiles Inside Womb.
It's phenomenal.
But so we've impacted thebabies and all the stories in
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your book.
But I want to make sure, beforethe show ends, that there's one
story that our audience hears,and so I would really be honored
if you would tell our audienceabout Daniel.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yeah, absolutely, the story of Daniel the Navy SEAL.
It's a tragic one of Daniel theNavy SEAL.
It's a tragic one and again, Idon't want to bring only tragedy
and the horror of abortion andother things like that to the
show.
So I'll tell the story.
But then, laura, we ought tomake sure we end on some
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positive notes and some positivestories.
I agree, let me share the storyof Daniel for your audience.
So he was a Navy SEAL, a youngman.
He had gone on a deploymentwith his team and had come back
and he was done.
He was done with the military.
I don't think that hisexperiences on his deployment, I
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think they caused him to say,hey, I need to rethink my life
and do something different.
And so he told his chain ofcommand that he wanted out and
he was going to separate fromthe military.
But before that happened, themandate dropped, was, and I say,
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rounded up.
But he was isolated and put withthe group of the rest of the
Navy SEAL refusers.
And you know they wereseparated from everyone else.
They were denied opportunitiesto train.
You know they were berated andbelittled and harassed.
They were coercing you know,these young and conscientious,
maybe SEALs to go along witheveryone else to get the shot.
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And you know they couldn't.
And they had the strength ofconscience.
They had the strength ofcharacter and the moral courage
to stand up for their beliefsand not to go along.
And so, daniel's, in this groupand throughout all this time,
you know they found othervarious, sometimes cruel, ways
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to harass these people.
You know they would have to goin for urinalysis occasionally.
If any of you service membersare out there you're hearing
this, you know what I mean.
You got to go and you take atest.
They'll go test your urine tomake sure that you're not taking
drugs, that kind of stuff.
It pops up randomly.
So these people are still onthe books, right?
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So they have to go testoccasionally if their name pops
up, and so you know.
But when they would show up atthe building, guess what?
They locked them out of thebuilding, they denied them
access.
They either took or canceledtheir badges so they couldn't
get into the team spaces andthey would have to wait outside
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and wait for an escort and beescorted around their own spaces
for, you know, like as if theywere some foreign visitor, you
know, or some unknown person.
These are people who have, youknow, bled and sweat and trained
, and they are some of theabsolute best that the military
has to offer.
We have spent millions ofdollars training these people to
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be our very best and they weretreated like criminals.
And this was the situation thatDaniel was in.
And I got a call last SeptemberLike I told you earlier in the
show, we have massive networkseven at this point, somewhat
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early on.
But I got a call from a NavySEAL Master Chief that I was
close with that said, hey, Ineed to let you know.
You know, one of our, one ofour SEALs, committed suicide and
that was Daniel.
And so we got on a call withhim, with the Master Chiefs and
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a couple of the team guys thathe was in the isolation group
with, and they let me know, hey,he was struggling, he wasn't
close with anybody, andeverything that his command put
him through we just think it wastoo much.
And so they were telling methis story.
One of the things that reallyjumped out to me and I'll share
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this but one of the cruel thingsthey did was these unbelievably
highly trained, impactfulweapon systems that are the Navy
SEALs, these guys that refused.
They were giving them meniallabor to do in the spare time,
whenever they actually gave themanything to do at all.
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So the very last thing thatDaniel did to support his
country was doing the yard workoutside the building.
He was no longer allowed toenter.
I want to let that sink in foreverybody.
If you think this story isunique, sadly you're wrong.
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Thousands of service memberswere treated this way and over
the course of the three-yearperiod that you know that we had
the mandate and we had some ofthe after effects of it, only 96
individuals died allegedly fromCOVID.
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You know I'm looking forward tounder Secretary Hegseth digging
into that data.
We have not been allowed to haveaccess to all the information
about it, but they allege 96people died from COVID that were
service members during thatperiod.
During that same period, 1,460service members committed
suicide.
Not ideation, not talking aboutit, not attempts that were
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unsuccessful Completed the actof committing suicide 1,460.
You tell me which is the biggercrisis, which is the bigger
problem?
Our leaders failed us becausethey were not taking care of
sailors like Daniel, and that'swhy I speak out, that's why I
make sure that we don't sweepthis under the rug.
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We need to draw all this outinto the light of day and
analyze it and make sure that wehot wash it, make sure that we
learn the lessons that need tobe learned from this so this
will never happen again.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I couldn't agree more .
I couldn't.
And man, oh man.
Daniel's family is forever inmy prayers and thank you for
sharing that, his story with usand our audience.
Babe, did you want to sayanything?
Okay, he looks like he wants tosay something.
So, um, well, you talked about,you brought up pete, hagg, seth
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and um, you want to.
We do want to not end ondifficult notes, and I know that
our shows are always difficult,but in the military they teach
you that if you have a problem,you better come with a solution.
So now, with everything thatyou've been through and
everybody that you know, and allof the stories that you've
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heard and your book and thejourneys that your family has
been on, what do you thinkhappens now?
What is your suggestion?
What's your solution?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Yeah, thank you for that question and, again, thank
you for having me on.
I know we only have a coupleminutes left, but I do want to
make sure I tell you and tellyour audience, how grateful I am
that there are people out therelike you who are amplifying
messages, who are putting in thehard work to make sure this
stuff gets out there.
And I was listening early on inthe show earlier, before I
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joined you on the call.
The prayer was beautiful, Thankyou for that and I had no idea
that y'all were driving 80 milesto get there to do this show.
Yeah, one way.
Yeah, that's right, you got toget back home.
So thank you very much for thatextra dedication to do this
important work.
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And so why do I lead with thethank you for that?
It's because this is thepositive message, this is the
hope that we end with here.
What happened?
All the evil that happenedduring COVID, all the bad, all
the going along, all the seedingground in the fifth generation
warfare environment that washappening with hundreds of
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thousands of leaders and servicemembers.
So much good was brought fromit.
By God, we connected with eachother Constitutionalists,
faithful Christians, people whobelieved in things that are
bigger than themselves were ableto find each other across
services, across militarycommunities, across, you know,
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the veteran network.
We connected, you know, usingvarious messaging app programs
and email chains.
We supported each other, weprayed together and we built a
massive community and thatcommunity has been fighting back
.
You mentioned earlier about theDeclaration of Military
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Accountability.
I was honored to write that andhave so many people join in
that and it was a start.
It was a little over a yearthis time that we put that out
there and I think it helped toenergize people, helped realize
that, hey, we can do more thanjust beg other people to fix all
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this.
We can do it ourselves andwe've got to use our voice, use
our First Amendment right and goout there and do it.
So I think it's a powerfulmessage of hope.
I am of the opinion that God'smoving in powerful ways.
I'm of the opinion that PeteHegseth and his confirmation
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last night and his leadership is.
You know that all of theseefforts played a huge role in
making sure we got somebody likeSecretary Hegseth in position
to help bring this back, helpwin back our country to properly
ordered principles, at least inthe military, so I have great
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hope.
Principles at least in themilitary.
So I have great hope there areother amazing people that were
nominated for positions andwe're looking forward to seeing
some of them confirmed.
Matt Lohmeyer is a greatexample, faithful man, a very
good person, and I think thathe's going to do amazing things
for the Air Force.
So there's a big network, a lotof positive things happening,
and that is the solution is thatwe continue to grow, we
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continue to rely on God and makesure that we're putting him
first in our own lives, and theresult of that will show forth
to others and we'll continue towin in that regard.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
I couldn't agree more with all of that.
And Colonel Lohmeyer, I agreewith that as well.
He's been on our show and justI was enthralled, just like I'm
enthralled now listening.
So glory to God that he's puteverybody into the positions and
brought everybody together.
It all happens for a reason.
So maybe for such a time asthis I suppose I have been on
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pins and needles trying to waitto ask this question.
We don't have much time about60 seconds left.
But you said you wrote theDeclaration of Military
Accountability and we've had afew of your co-signers on.
But there is a quote from JohnAdams at the top.
It says our Constitution wasmade only for moral and
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religious people.
It is wholly inadequate to thegovernment of any other.
Can you tell us real quick whyyou chose that one?
Speaker 6 (45:31):
I think it was important, that Declaration of
Military Accountability.
I wrote it to kind of mirrorthe language and style of Thomas
Jefferson, but I wanted to makesure that it led with.
The most important element ofall this is our faith in God.
We're a Christian nation and ifwe want to continue to be a
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nation, we must make sure thatthe faith is paramount, that the
faith has priority in our ownlives and in the workings of the
government at all levels aboveus.
And so I wanted to make sure weopened with that statement,
opened with that quote from JohnAdams, because it is so
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critical to ensuring that wehave a future to pass along to
our children.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Well, commander Green , thank you for everything that
you have done, for your courage.
Thank, marie Claire, again forus, and thanks to all of the
warriors that have stood next toyou.
May your courage always becontagious and may God forever
bless you To everybody else.
We will talk to you next week.
Stay safe, god bless.
Men and women all around fought and died for your
freedom.
It's real fucked up how thegovernment treats them.
They just sit back and theywon't even feed them.
They lay on the ground feelingdefeated.
Lord, they paid their dues andthey beat the enemy while
they're all alone fighting PTSDBecause freedom ain't free.
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But in reality, you entitleda**holes Are handed everything.
We should all rise up and alljust agree that division ain't
the way that it's supposed to be.
Lord, it's a damn shame whatthe world's gotten to.
We, the people like you, and we, the people like me, should
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just wake up and realize it'strue, cause it is oh, it is
Living in a new world With anold soul.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Welcome everybody and thank you for listening to the
Veteran Show.
We know you could be anywhereelse and doing anything else at
this time.
Oh, oh, oh for letting us havethis opportunity to sit behind
this microphone and talk to youevery week.
Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It's been quite a journey, for sure.
We never expected to be doingthis.
You would have told me thatwe're sitting behind a radio or
a microphone.
I would have laughed at you.
Do we have a good lawyer?
I don't know, but here we are,and so God is good.
Thank you for joining us.
As my husband said and I am,laura If you have listened to
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the Veterans Show before, youknow that we open with prayer,
and the reason we do this isbecause, first, we want to give
glory to God and, two, we'reveterans.
Everything that we do, everyceremony, always starts with a
prayer.
So if you can bow your headswith us, please, heavenly Father
, I want to take thisopportunity to first give you
all glory.
Thank you for everything thatyou do, for your love for us and
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your gift of your son.
Father, I want to lift up yourwarriors.
You know who they are, andthere are many of them.
Sometimes they feel a littlebit alone, but they're not.
I thank you for them, father.
I thank you for instilling yourspirit inside of them and thank
you for their courage.
Father, I pray for them everysingle day and I pray, and I
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know that you will protect themand you will, in time, you will
reward them.
Thank you for all that you do,and I pray all of this in Jesus'
name, my Lord and Savior, therisen King, amen.
So we do.
Thank you for joining us.
We had a pre-recorded show lastweek and it was with Captain
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Seth Keschel and it was amazinglistening to him, but I was a
little bit under the weather.
I know a lot of people areunder the weather right now, so
if you hear me sniffling, I'msorry.
I just wanted to let you guysknow that before we get into the
show, because you know I don'tknow if I sneeze or sniffle, but
there's a lot going on outthere, like a lot of going on
right, just so much.
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I mean, even on the, justbefore we walked in the studio,
my husband was showing me arecording about the pardons and
stuff like that Just overload ofinformation.
But we know that you can'talways pay attention to all the
news and the politics going on,because you have life going on.
You have sickness, you havefinances, you have family.
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You have just life, and we knowthat life doesn't always go the
way we want it to.
Sometimes we get into darkmoments and we just want you to
know that you're not alone inthat moment.
We've all been there.
We do know that we're going toget through it.
There is always light at theend of the tunnel.
So we just want to tell you tostay strong, hang in there and
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always reach out for help.
Never stay locked in your ownbrain.
That's the worst place to do.
Stay at.
So just make sure you reach outto somebody.
Tell somebody that you'rehurting, tell somebody if you're
in crisis.
Just somehow reach out.
Okay, one of the ways that youcan do that is you can dial 988
and then option one, or you cantext 838255.
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You can also chat online.
You can go towwwveteranscrisislinenet.
But those are three of the mainways that you can do it.
There's also so many freeveteran charities, and if a
veterans charity tries to charge, you run from that charity.
Okay, there's too many freecharities, but we have a few
(04:37):
that we have featured on theshow which basically cover all
the main issues that veteransdeal with, and so I'm going to
quickly go through these.
These, as I said, are free andthey are nationwide.
You don't have to be here inMaryland to utilize these.
So one is Heroes Bridge.
They have the National BattleBuddy Call-In Center.
Typically they help veterans 65and older, but for their
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National Battle Buddy Call-InCenter.
They'll help all veterans andyou can call that number at
1-800-653-8387.
If you're dealing withpost-traumatic stress, we highly
recommend Warfighter Advance.
They are an amazing program.
Their number is 202-239-7395.
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If a veteran is dealing withhomelessness, we recommend the
Baltimore Station.
Their number is 410-752-2254.
If you're dealing with financesas a veteran you're having some
issues with finances you cancontact Operation First Response
Peggy over there is amazing, agift from God.
That number is 1-888-289-0280.
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Man, that took me a hard time.
It's like I got dyslexia withthat number, but 888-289-0280.
And if you're dealing withaddiction issues, always you can
go visit AA If you go to theironline site, which is wwwaaorg.
Or you can also go to CelebrateRecovery.
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Celebrate Recovery is afaith-based addiction program
and I've heard amazing thingsabout them.
So either AA or CelebrateRecovery, but AA, you can go to
a meeting online 24-7, so youdon't have to wait.
But my personal favorite and thething that has worked for me
and I will always recommend toeverybody, is God and his son,
jesus Christ.
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It is amazing what God does,isn't it?
I don't know, he just parted ametal sea coming over here.
We drive 80 miles and we werein some pretty bad traffic.
495 was the express lane isshut down going north pretty bad
(06:47):
traffic.
495 was the express lane isshut down going north.
So when I say God parted themetal sea, he most certainly did
.
But you know what?
That's just a small thing.
God has changed my heart.
He has literally softened myheart, and I know he can do
yours.
And once he does that, man, itis amazing.
So if you are in a dark spot,might I recommend calling out to
Jesus Christ and I guaranteeyou he'll answer.
And I know he'll answer becauseI just told you he'll answer.
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I have that much faith that Godwill answer you.
But just please, everybody,make sure to reach out.
We do want to congratulate PeteHegseth, the new secretary.
Yes, yay, woo-hoo, I just hadall these happy dances, so huge
congratulations.
Now, mr Secretary of Defense,please go get her done.
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Okay, we do want to celebratetoday too, because we got an
email this week from VeteransAffairs and it is death of DEI,
DEI.
And if you encounter any DEIfrom the Veterans Affairs,
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there's a website that you canreport it and that's DEIATRUTH
at OPMgov.
So DEIATRUTH at OPMgov, yeah,if you encountered DEI at the VA
, that's where you need to go toreport it and they want you to
report it within 10 days.
So yay, that's pretty cool.
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But, like I said earlier, thishas been a journey and we wanted
to kind of talk to you aboutthat.
There's a lot of just beliefs Alot of people dealing with, I
don't know.
We're all just kind of talk toyou about that.
There's a lot of just beliefs alot of people dealing with, I
don't know.
We're all just kind ofwondering.
I think a lot of people aresearching for purpose and
wondering our place in the world, and so I kind of I want to
talk about that for a secondbefore we go into the rest of
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our show.
You know, there's drones flyingover and there's always people
talking about aliens and isthere life and stuff of that
nature.
And to you people, um, I wouldlike to give you a different
perspective.
Um, I choose to believe in abeing higher than me that can
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choose to create a life in awomb and can choose to put a
certain soul in that little baby, a destination, almost.
You know he chooses what soulhe wants in what body, and he
did that with Jesus Christ.
So I would much prefer acreator that can choose a soul
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than maybe some alien out therethat might want to come say hi
by accident.
I just I think it's so muchmore in depth that we are chosen
, that we have purpose, and Isee one of the ways that there's
purpose, or one of the examplesthat I see, is in the Bible.
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It does talk about Moses.
Now, I don't know if many ofyou know, but Moses was a
murderer.
He murdered somebody and hefled, yet God still chose him.
And what's interesting aboutMoses's story?
Everybody knows that he partedthe Red Sea, or, you know, he
stood up to Pharaoh orda-da-da-da-da, or he saw a
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burning bush.
And something about thatburning bush story that a lot of
people skip over or I'venoticed, at least, I was never
taught is as Moses wasencountering that burning bush,
he kept giving excuses to God.
God was calling him, saying Ihave this plan for you, and he
said well, I can't speak well, Ican't do this well.
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And finally God was upset andhe said look, don't you see you
can.
Your brother, aaron, is comingnow.
And what's interesting with thestory of Moses is that it never
says where Aaron came from.
Aaron just showed up, so Godhad it covered from the
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beginning.
Moses's brother, random brother, found him on a mountaintop, as
he was, you know, having hissheep with him watching a
burning bush, and just hisbrother walked up Like where did
he come from?
It's just proof that God hasplans, and we can't fully see
all of the plans that he has,but he's got it covered.
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So I just want you to thinkabout a life is chosen, a life
is used, and a life is precious,and your life is precious and
all of our lives are precious,and so that's just my change of
perspective.
Ok, tonight we have a phenomenalguest.
We have had quite a few of hisfriends on here, but he wrote.
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It is Commander Robert A Greenand he wrote Defending the
Constitution Behind Enemy Lines.
It's a story of hope for thosewho love liberty.
Now, hey, I think the Bible isthe best book, but I think maybe
the second best book is the oneDefending the Constitution by
Commander Green.
If you are interested in havinga copy of this book, you can
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call WCBM, call in line410-922-6680, and we will mail
you a free copy.
Okay, so on us, we will mailyou a copy of Robert Greene's
book, or Commander Greene's.
I'm sorry about that.
Before we go into break andbefore we bring our guests on,
we are going to play an excerptof the book and it's four
(12:15):
minutes long.
It is long, I'm going to warnyou.
It is difficult to listen tovery, but it needs to be heard,
and it's an explanation of thefetal cells.
Everybody talks about whatfetal cells are and now you can
hear what, where they actuallycome from and how they're used
in vaccines.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Abortion is such a politicized issue in today's
society that I became convincedthat my chain of command would
be dismissive of my religiousbeliefs on the matter.
My chain of command would bedismissive of my religious
beliefs on the matter.
What they likely did not knowwas that the abortions performed
to produce fetal cells forvaccines are done on human
babies whose hearts are stillbeating when the genetic
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material is extracted.
Having a beating heart is soimportant to producing usable
cells that a device known as aLangendorff apparatus was
developed to keep a heartbeating even after it has been
extracted.
Since it is nearly impossibleto find a detailed explanation
of how to prepare human subjectsfor the Langendorff apparatus,
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a 2017 review of the procedurefor mice is useful to understand
how it works.
Review of the procedure formice is useful to understand how
it works.
In the article, the authordescribes how it is important to
keep the animal free fromstressful stimuli and recommends
protocols of anesthesia.
Once calm, the animal is placedin a supine position and the
diaphragm is cut using atransabdominal incision to
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expose the thoracic cavity.
Cut using a transabdominalincision to expose the thoracic
cavity, the beating heart isremoved and placed in an
ice-cold chemical solution torinse off the blood.
This will temporarily stop theheartbeat and is a time period
that must be minimized.
Finally, the heart is connectedto the Langendorf apparatus by
the aorta and a nutrient-richoxygenated solution is pumped
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through the heart.
The heart will start beatingagain within seconds after being
connected to the Langendorffapparatus.
The above description wasprovided as part of a study of
mouse hearts.
However, we have evidence thatthe same Langendorff techniques
were used to study and extractmaterial from human hearts as
well.
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A 2012 Stanford study of humancardiac progenitor cells
revealed that the source of thehuman hearts being studied was a
company called Stem Express andthat a Langendorff apparatus
was used to procure the humanfetal hearts in question.
A 1999 article in the PediatricResearch Journal provided much
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greater detail about the humansubjects being studied.
The article describes a studyof six human hearts that were
extracted from human beings atbetween 18 to 22 weeks of
gestation.
The authors note that the fetalhearts were aseptically
obtained after electivetermination of normal pregnancy
by dilation and evacuation, andthe hearts, weighing three to
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five grams each, wereimmediately dissected from the
thoracic cavity with the greatvessels intact, and transported
to our laboratory within 15minutes.
It is unconscionable to me thatliving human beings, who happen
to still be in the womb, are notprotected as persons under the
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14th Amendment.
In light of how much more wenow understand about the science
and gestation of human life, Ibelieve this element of the law
is ripe for review by the courts.
The law is ripe for review bythe courts.
Regardless of fetal personhood,if these babies are evacuated
from the womb with their heartsstill beating, they are
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considered born and areprotected by Section 1 of the
14th Amendment, which states Allpersons born in the United
States are citizens of theUnited States and of the state
wherein they reside.
No state shall make or enforceany law which shall abridge the
privileges or immunities ofcitizens of the United States.
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Nor shall any state deprive anyperson of life, liberty or
property without due process oflaw.
If abortion practitioners arefollowing the standard procedure
for use of the Langendorfdevice by vivisecting living
human beings outside the womb,they are committing murder under
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every law we currently have andunder the current understanding
of the 14th Amendment.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Welcome back everybody and thank you for
listening.
I am today because somebodyprayed.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Welcome back everybody and thank you for
listening to the Veteran Show.
If you're in crisis, pleasepick up the phone, dial 988,
press option 1, or text 838255.
Just remember you're neveralone.
There's always somebody outthere that wants to hear your
voice.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
There always is.
Thank you, baby, for givingthat out.
As I said before the break, wehave an amazing guest tonight.
I am absolutely honored to betalking to him, and it has been
a long journey.
We are pleased to introduceNavy Commander Rob Green.
Commander Green, can you hearme?
Speaker 6 (17:38):
I can hear you.
Thank you very much for havingme with you guys on your show.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Oh my gosh.
Thank you for taking the time,brother, and for everything
you've done.
What a journey you have been on.
Speaking of the journey, if youdon't mind telling everybody a
little bit about you and yourmilitary career and what
inspired you to join the Navy,and just a little bit about your
military career?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yeah, thank you very much.
I really appreciate that.
So a little bit about mybackground.
I'm a surface warfare officer,a ship driver, I was on
destroyers for a bit.
I was the executive officer ofa coastal riverine squadron when
the mandate went down.
For my personal belief system,my conscience, and mainly
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because it didn't make a lot ofsense and we should be able to
make our own medical decisions,it's called therapeutic
proportionality.
When you decide that, hey,you're going to take something
for your own health and it mustbe proportional, the risks and
the rewards they need to beproportional, and based on that
it's a belief I have and if it'snot proportional, the risks and
the rewards they need to beproportional.
And you know, based on that andit's a belief I have and if
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it's not proportional, the risksdon't outweigh the benefit that
is supposedly offered bysomething, then I have a right
to make my own medical decision.
So based on that right, youknow, I refused to participate
in the COVID mandates and wasfired from my position, spent
seven months at home.
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Only job was to call in and theymade sure I was alive and
eventually they stopped takingthat call and then we started
winning in court and during allthat time I was writing, I was
talking to service members.
I was trying to be very publicand make sure anybody out there
who needed help, anybody thatwas struggling with this, those
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with moral injury, that they hada voice out there, that they
could find somebody that theycould connect to.
And we built a pretty massivenetwork of service members who
resisted this and it was verybeneficial to so many people,
gave so many people hope, andyou know eventually they called
me up and said hey, we can'tfire you.
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The courts have not permitted usto do that, so I guess we're
going to have to put you back towork.
So they gave me a job again andI've been back at it in the
Navy doing my very best, and, uh, so that's that's what brings
me with you today.
So still active duty and andstill fighting for the
constitution in every way I can,and that includes
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extracurricular things like this, where I go out and talk about
the things that we did right,the things that we did wrong, um
, and the things that you know.
Hopefully, with enoughawareness, we'll never be in
this position again, and sothat's why I keep doing this in
my spare time.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Well, thank you for that and for everything you've
been through.
It's taken.
I can't even imagine the amountof strength that it's taken.
All the decisions that you'vehad to make is just mind
boggling.
But thank you for that, fordoing that.
I got to tell you the day thatyou guys dropped this
accountability, I was super sickand I launched out of bed.
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It was late at night and Ilaunched out of bed and went
running to my husband to showhim.
So that's how powerful it wasto me and I thank you for that.
If anybody wants to read themilitary accountability, it's
www.
Militaryaccountabilitynet.
And again, defending theconstitution behind enemy lines.
For Commander Green's book, youtook a strong stance against
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the COVID-19 vaccine mandate.
What were the main reasonsbehind your decision and can you
tell us a little bit about that?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Yeah, so it was like I described.
You know my belief intherapeutic proportionality.
You know, if you get a scratchon your arm, you don't amputate
your arm based on the risk ofgetting gangrene, and I know
that's a bit of an extremeexample, but we had the data
already, from when the mandatewas voluntary, that demonstrated
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that it wasn't very effective.
Mandate was voluntary thatdemonstrated that it wasn't very
effective and we already haddata and we had anecdotal
evidence of people becominginjured by this.
And it was ignored by everybody.
People were being gaslit and wealready had it before the
mandate came out that it wasn'tsafe.
So it's a bit of an extremeexample the gangrene arm amputee
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thing.
Before you get the infection.
But that is a similar thoughtprocess going through my head at
the time.
Also, as you aired just a fewmoments ago from that section of
the book I wrote, they did allthe testing with fetal cells on
this and it doesn't matter howlong ago those fetal cells were
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extracted.
It is an absolute travesty,it's murder and it was
unfortunate for those who had tohear it and didn't want to hear
how graphic it is.
It is truly evil whatscientists were doing and you
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know, based on that, it wasanother reason why I could not
participate in any of this.
So those were my reasons behindit, and I would also add that my
wife, mary Claire, was a hugepart of me, standing up, believe
it or not.
I don't like confrontation, I'mnot big on it, and so I'll
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share a quick story about her.
We went in to go vote in the2020 election and in to go vote
in the 2020 election and youknow my wife and I she's a hard
charger, she is so strong.
She, you know, never wore amask.
She kind of understood early onthat it wasn't right and it was
adding to the lie.
It was helping build the liefor those who were putting it on
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and you know who didn't believein it, kind of going against
their own.
You know the little twinge ofconscience like, ah, I'm going
to do this and go along, getalong.
For her that was not even aquestion.
You know she was confrontingstore managers and doctor's
office staff and anything andanywhere else she was going if
she needed to go somewhere.
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So you know she was the leaderin this for me.
So, anyway, we're at 2020election going in.
We live in a at the time, we'reliving in a deep blue state, so
mask mandates abide and youknow she's not going to do it,
and you know.
So we're sitting in the cardiscussing, okay, well you know,
I don't know, I'm telling her,you know, maybe I, you know,
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maybe I'll just mail in myballot.
You know we had concerns aboutmail-in ballot fraud stuff going
on as well at the same time andshe turned to me and was like
you coward and that for me thatwas the thing.
It was like, oh man, I'm goingto have to really dig in and be
a man about this.
So for me she's the, she's thepowerful force behind a lot of
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the things I have done.
I wish I could claim some youknow a lot of credit.
I don't wish I could claimcredit for it, because I can't.
So much of what I've done hasbeen other people encouraging me
, and then my wife behind me inall this.
So I just want to make sure thatthe credit is where it's due,
and it's to Jesus Christ, ofcourse, and to my wife, who God
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has put in my life to elicit somuch good.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Well, thank you to Mary Claire.
Did you say her name was?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Mary Claire.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Mary Claire.
Mary Claire, thank you verymuch.
There's something to be saidabout wives and what the Bible
says.
It says something about rubiesWives are equivalent to fine or
better than rubies.
So, mary Claire, a lot ofpeople have to thank you for
pushing him and thank you forlistening to her.
I find it's interesting to gointo it.
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Let me get my words outcorrectly.
In your book, I find itinteresting that we're talking
about this now, because youmentioned something about
exercising conscience.
Can you talk about that alittle bit and what you meant?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Yeah.
So it's very interesting.
In the current environment, alot of people don't understand
it, they don't see through it,but we're living in a fifth
generation war and it's a war,for hearts and minds is what it
is.
The individual human person isboth the objective and the
battleground upon which this waris fought.
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So if you have thatunderstanding, you cannot cede
ground to the enemy in your ownheart, in your own mind, in this
war, and so the little thingsthat you do to fight back are
going to make all the difference, even internally in your own
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heart and in your own mind,right?
So let me give you an example.
If you have a twinge ofconscience about something like,
hey, this is not exactly right.
If you seed ground, if youconcede on something, you're
like I'm going to go along withthis, it's not really that big
of a deal and I'm just going todo it, even though I know it's
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wrong, I know I shouldn'tparticipate in this, but it's
just easier.
You are seeding ground in thebattlefield.
This is the battlefield in yourmind, right?
You're ceding ground to theenemy, and if you want to take
the fight to the enemy, if youwant to gain ground, you
actually have to win yourselffirst.
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Win yourself first, completely,give over your heart and your
mind to good and never let anytwinge of wrong things that go
against your conscience, againstwhat's right, have any hold in
you.
And if you do that, it willshow on the outside, such as my
wife never wearing a maskanywhere, even when people would
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, you know, shame her or saymean rude things, there are
people watching.
One time my brother-in-law wentto a PTA meeting and he shared
this story with me and he wasagainst the mask, you know, but
occasionally he'd put it on justto see if it's easier to go
along.
You know, sometimes some thingsrequire.
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You know you've got to get foodfor your family or something.
You know.
There are situations where youknow you have to make a prudent
decision.
But in this case he said youknow what?
I'm going to go in therewithout it and I'm going to make
sure that you know they see me.
And this was at some point whereyou know they were starting to
relax in some places.
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This was at some point whereyou know they were starting to
relax it in some places.
Well, there were other men inthat room at this parent-teacher
conference and they werewatching him.
And then you start to see, oneby one, men in the room and it
was men men in the room takingthe mask off because they saw
one person standing up.
And so that is what we need todo you need to follow your
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conscience, you need to makesure you're not ceding ground.
And that is how we start togain ground.
We start to give an example toothers.
Give them courage so that theycan take similar stances and
hopefully win this informationwar, this fifth generation war
that's being waged against usright now.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I couldn't agree more that courage is contagious,
right?
So thank you.
So you said your brother didthat.
That was my brother-in-law.
Your brother-in-law?
Yeah, that's amazing.
I experienced that myself inTulsa.
I walked into a hospital and Irefused to wear a mask and by
the time I walked out, almosteverybody had taken off their
mask.
It was amazing.
It was.
I was tearing up.
I was so happy.
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So thank you to yourbrother-in-law, thank you to
your wife and thank you to youfor standing and giving people
courage, showing that it's OK todo that.
We don't have much time beforethe break.
I want to ask you a question.
It might seem a little bitweird.
We only have about a fewseconds.
There's chaplains in themilitary.
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There's always been chaplains.
We, even if there's a deathnotification, they send a
chaplain.
Each unit has a chaplain.
Why are there chaplains?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Why are there chaplains?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Why are there chaplains?
Yeah, I guess.
Well, maybe I should lead up tothe break and then we'll take.
We'll go to break in the quick,but I just think on it.
If we needed all thesereligious exemptions and if many
of them were disapproved, thenwhat's the point of a chaplain
in the military?
I don't.
Maybe we can discuss that afterthe break.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I can answer that probably really quick in about
30 seconds, and then we can moveon after the break.
But yeah, so the chaplains existto provide for the people who
need religious services.
They need support in variousways.
That's what they exist for.
They need support in variousways.
That's what they exist for.
But what we saw and this is whyyou're asking the question it
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sounds like what we saw werechaplains who had misprioritized
, they had disordered theirprinciples and they were putting
the institution first.
Many of them were putting theircareers first, before their
obligations to faith and to theservice that the people needed
from them, the reasons that theyactually exist.
And so that's why you ask thequestion why do we even have
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them?
Well, they're there for areason, and a very good reason,
if they are properly ordered intheir principles.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
That's a perfect answer, sir.
Thank you, we're going to takea break.
We'll be right back.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
I woke up this morning saw a world full of
trouble.
Now I thought how'd we ever getso far down and how's it ever
going to turn around?
So I turned my eyes to heaven.
I thought God, why don't you dosomething?
Well, I just couldn't bear thethought of people living in
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poverty and children sold intoslavery.
The thought disgusted me, so Ishook my fist at heaven.
People living in poverty,children sold into slavery the
thought disgusted me, so I shookmy fist.
In heaven.
I said God, why don't you dosomething?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
He said I did, I created you.
Welcome back everybody andthank you for listening to the
Veteran's Show.
If you're in crisis, pick upthe phone, dial 988, press
Option 1, or text 838255.
Just remember you're neveralone.
There's always somebody outthere who wants to hear your
voice.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Thank you, babe.
It's true we do, and so reachout.
We still have our guest on theline, commander Rob Green.
Thank you for staying with usthrough the break and for your
time tonight and for everythingthat you've done.
You know you have a lot ofstories in your book of fellow
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veterans, fellow active duty.
I hear you know the words ofduring COVID keep repeating in
my mind of everybody, keepalways saying it will help, the
vaccine will help more than hurt.
It will help more than hurt.
The benefits outweigh the risks, and that just really catches
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me.
So we've already establishedwhat fetal cells really are,
that those are baby, actual baby, baby heartbeats that are
taking out their body.
Still being this audience, I'veshared with them a news article
I've spoken about a few times.
I shared it on our X accountfrom the New York Post of a baby
that was captured smilinginside the wound womb.
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It was reacting to its father'svoice.
It was the most amazing thing.
If you have a chance, people togo out there and look at this
article from the New York Post.
Baby Smiles Inside Womb.
It's phenomenal.
But so we've impacted thebabies and all the stories in
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your book.
But I want to make sure, beforethe show ends, that there's one
story that our audience hears,and so I would really be honored
if you would tell our audienceabout Daniel.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yeah, absolutely, the story of Daniel the Navy SEAL.
It's a tragic one of Daniel theNavy SEAL.
It's a tragic one and again, Idon't want to bring only tragedy
and the horror of abortion andother things like that to the
show.
So I'll tell the story.
But then, laura, we ought tomake sure we end on some
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positive notes and some positivestories.
I agree, let me share the storyof Daniel for your audience.
So he was a Navy SEAL, a youngman.
He had gone on a deploymentwith his team and had come back
and he was done.
He was done with the military.
I don't think that hisexperiences on his deployment, I
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think they caused him to say,hey, I need to rethink my life
and do something different.
And so he told his chain ofcommand that he wanted out and
he was going to separate fromthe military.
But before that happened, themandate dropped, was, and I say,
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rounded up.
But he was isolated and put withthe group of the rest of the
Navy SEAL refusers.
And you know they wereseparated from everyone else.
They were denied opportunitiesto train.
You know they were berated andbelittled and harassed.
They were coercing you know,these young and conscientious,
maybe SEALs to go along witheveryone else to get the shot.
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And you know they couldn't.
And they had the strength ofconscience.
They had the strength ofcharacter and the moral courage
to stand up for their beliefsand not to go along.
And so, daniel's, in this groupand throughout all this time,
you know they found othervarious, sometimes cruel, ways
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to harass these people.
You know they would have to goin for urinalysis occasionally.
If any of you service membersare out there you're hearing
this, you know what I mean.
You got to go and you take atest.
They'll go test your urine tomake sure that you're not taking
drugs, that kind of stuff.
It pops up randomly.
So these people are still onthe books, right?
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So they have to go testoccasionally if their name pops
up, and so you know.
But when they would show up atthe building, guess what?
They locked them out of thebuilding, they denied them
access.
They either took or canceledtheir badges so they couldn't
get into the team spaces andthey would have to wait outside
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and wait for an escort and beescorted around their own spaces
for, you know, like as if theywere some foreign visitor, you
know, or some unknown person.
These are people who have, youknow, bled and sweat and trained
, and they are some of theabsolute best that the military
has to offer.
We have spent millions ofdollars training these people to
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be our very best and they weretreated like criminals.
And this was the situation thatDaniel was in.
And I got a call last SeptemberLike I told you earlier in the
show, we have massive networkseven at this point, somewhat
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early on.
But I got a call from a NavySEAL Master Chief that I was
close with that said, hey, Ineed to let you know.
You know, one of our, one ofour SEALs, committed suicide and
that was Daniel.
And so we got on a call withhim, with the Master Chiefs and
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a couple of the team guys thathe was in the isolation group
with, and they let me know, hey,he was struggling, he wasn't
close with anybody, andeverything that his command put
him through we just think it wastoo much.
And so they were telling methis story.
One of the things that reallyjumped out to me and I'll share
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this but one of the cruel thingsthey did was these unbelievably
highly trained, impactfulweapon systems that are the Navy
SEALs, these guys that refused.
They were giving them meniallabor to do in the spare time,
whenever they actually gave themanything to do at all.
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So the very last thing thatDaniel did to support his
country was doing the yard workoutside the building.
He was no longer allowed toenter.
I want to let that sink in foreverybody.
If you think this story isunique, sadly you're wrong.
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Thousands of service memberswere treated this way and over
the course of the three-yearperiod that you know that we had
the mandate and we had some ofthe after effects of it, only 96
individuals died allegedly fromCOVID.
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You know I'm looking forward tounder Secretary Hegseth digging
into that data.
We have not been allowed to haveaccess to all the information
about it, but they allege 96people died from COVID that were
service members during thatperiod.
During that same period, 1,460service members committed
suicide.
Not ideation, not talking aboutit, not attempts that were
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unsuccessful Completed the actof committing suicide 1,460.
You tell me which is the biggercrisis, which is the bigger
problem?
Our leaders failed us becausethey were not taking care of
sailors like Daniel, and that'swhy I speak out, that's why I
make sure that we don't sweepthis under the rug.
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We need to draw all this outinto the light of day and
analyze it and make sure that wehot wash it, make sure that we
learn the lessons that need tobe learned from this so this
will never happen again.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I couldn't agree more .
I couldn't.
And man, oh man.
Daniel's family is forever inmy prayers and thank you for
sharing that, his story with usand our audience.
Babe, did you want to sayanything?
Okay, he looks like he wants tosay something.
So, um, well, you talked about,you brought up pete, hagg, seth
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and um, you want to.
We do want to not end ondifficult notes, and I know that
our shows are always difficult,but in the military they teach
you that if you have a problem,you better come with a solution.
So now, with everything thatyou've been through and
everybody that you know, and allof the stories that you've
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heard and your book and thejourneys that your family has
been on, what do you thinkhappens now?
What is your suggestion?
What's your solution?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Yeah, thank you for that question and, again, thank
you for having me on.
I know we only have a coupleminutes left, but I do want to
make sure I tell you and tellyour audience, how grateful I am
that there are people out therelike you who are amplifying
messages, who are putting in thehard work to make sure this
stuff gets out there.
And I was listening early on inthe show earlier, before I
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joined you on the call.
The prayer was beautiful, Thankyou for that and I had no idea
that y'all were driving 80 milesto get there to do this show.
Yeah, one way.
Yeah, that's right, you got toget back home.
So thank you very much for thatextra dedication to do this
important work.
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And so why do I lead with thethank you for that?
It's because this is thepositive message, this is the
hope that we end with here.
What happened?
All the evil that happenedduring COVID, all the bad, all
the going along, all the seedingground in the fifth generation
warfare environment that washappening with hundreds of
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thousands of leaders and servicemembers.
So much good was brought fromit.
By God, we connected with eachother Constitutionalists,
faithful Christians, people whobelieved in things that are
bigger than themselves were ableto find each other across
services, across militarycommunities, across, you know,
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the veteran network.
We connected, you know, usingvarious messaging app programs
and email chains.
We supported each other, weprayed together and we built a
massive community and thatcommunity has been fighting back
.
You mentioned earlier about theDeclaration of Military
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Accountability.
I was honored to write that andhave so many people join in
that and it was a start.
It was a little over a yearthis time that we put that out
there and I think it helped toenergize people, helped realize
that, hey, we can do more thanjust beg other people to fix all
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this.
We can do it ourselves andwe've got to use our voice, use
our First Amendment right and goout there and do it.
So I think it's a powerfulmessage of hope.
I am of the opinion that God'smoving in powerful ways.
I'm of the opinion that PeteHegseth and his confirmation
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last night and his leadership is.
You know that all of theseefforts played a huge role in
making sure we got somebody likeSecretary Hegseth in position
to help bring this back, helpwin back our country to properly
ordered principles, at least inthe military, so I have great
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hope.
Principles at least in themilitary.
So I have great hope there areother amazing people that were
nominated for positions andwe're looking forward to seeing
some of them confirmed.
Matt Lohmeyer is a greatexample, faithful man, a very
good person, and I think thathe's going to do amazing things
for the Air Force.
So there's a big network, a lotof positive things happening,
and that is the solution is thatwe continue to grow, we
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continue to rely on God and makesure that we're putting him
first in our own lives, and theresult of that will show forth
to others and we'll continue towin in that regard.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
I couldn't agree more with all of that.
And Colonel Lohmeyer, I agreewith that as well.
He's been on our show and justI was enthralled, just like I'm
enthralled now listening.
So glory to God that he's puteverybody into the positions and
brought everybody together.
It all happens for a reason.
So maybe for such a time asthis I suppose I have been on
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pins and needles trying to waitto ask this question.
We don't have much time about60 seconds left.
But you said you wrote theDeclaration of Military
Accountability and we've had afew of your co-signers on.
But there is a quote from JohnAdams at the top.
It says our Constitution wasmade only for moral and
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religious people.
It is wholly inadequate to thegovernment of any other.
Can you tell us real quick whyyou chose that one?
Speaker 6 (45:31):
I think it was important, that Declaration of
Military Accountability.
I wrote it to kind of mirrorthe language and style of Thomas
Jefferson, but I wanted to makesure that it led with.
The most important element ofall this is our faith in God.
We're a Christian nation and ifwe want to continue to be a
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nation, we must make sure thatthe faith is paramount, that the
faith has priority in our ownlives and in the workings of the
government at all levels aboveus.
And so I wanted to make sure weopened with that statement,
opened with that quote from JohnAdams, because it is so
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critical to ensuring that wehave a future to pass along to
our children.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Well, commander Green , thank you for everything that
you have done, for your courage.
Thank, marie Claire, again forus, and thanks to all of the
warriors that have stood next toyou.
May your courage always becontagious and may God forever
bless you To everybody else.
We will talk to you next week.
Stay safe, god bless.
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