May 30, 2025 • 35 mins
When Lilly and Jack Sullivan go missing from their home in a rural area in Canada it draws the attention of people around the world. Did these 2 kids really walk out the door on their own or did something more sinister happen?
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Hello everyone, welcome back to The Victim's Voice.
I'm your host, Lorelei. Even though today's episode is
all the way from Nova Scotia, Canada, it's one that has
garnered attention internationally.
Not just one, but two kids just vanished from their home in
broad daylight with their parents just a few feet away in
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another room. But is this what really
happened? So many red flags have come out
throughout the mom and her quoteUN quote partners interviews and
a lot of people are not believing their story.
So I'm going to go over all the facts along with all of the
inconsistencies and at the end let you be the judge on what you
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believe happened to these two children.
With that being said, let's jumpright in.
On the morning of May 2nd, 2025,at approximately 10 AMA 911 call
came into Pick two County. The caller was a woman from Nova
Scotia, Canada named Malaya Brooks Murray.
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She was calling to report that her two children, 6 year old
Lily and four year old Jack, were missing from their home.
According to the information that they had gathered, the RCMP
or the Royal Canadian Mounted Police told the public that the
kids wandered away from their home that morning and were gone
before anyone in the house noticed.
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Immediately, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police issued A
vulnerable missing persons alertin pick two county and two
neighboring counties. They also asked for the public's
help in locating the kids. They said that Lily was possibly
wearing a pink sweater, pink pants and pink boots.
It was unknown what clothing Jack was wearing, but it was
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said that he could have been wearing an overnight pull up and
blue dinosaur rain boots. The family lives in a corner of
Pic 2 county in a community called Lansdowne, which is
described as a network of Backcountry roads that only the
locals know. These roads crisscross rivers
and dense forests that are swarming with black flies.
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There is hardly any cell servicein the area.
Most of the 100 people who live in Lansdowne are related and
have lived there for generations.
The community is a 15 minute drive from the closest town and
the only traffic that comes through the area are a few local
cars, logging trucks, and schoolbuses.
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Looking at a picture of the homeon Google Earth, which I will
post on my social media and web page, the mobile home that the
family lives in is plopped on a clearing in the middle of the
dense forest and rugged terrain.It's literally in the boondocks.
Lily, Jack and their mom Malaya moved into the community on
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Garlock Road just two years before into the childhood home
belonging to Daniel Martel, who is said to be Lily and Jack's
stepfather. But the couple isn't actually
married. They started dating around 3
years ago when Lily was 2 and Jack was just a baby.
Malaya and Daniel do have a 16 month old baby together, a
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little girl named Meadow. According to the family, Lily
and Jack's biological father hashad no contact with them at all
since they were born. Daniel's mother, Belinda Gray,
and Daniel's brother also live on the property.
They live in a dilapidated camper overlooking the fenced in
backyard of the mobile home thatMalaya, Daniel and the kids live
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in. However, there has been hardly
any mention or sighting of Daniel's brother or mother.
And when I say this camper is dilapidated, I mean it's
dilapidated. It doesn't even have a roof.
It's got a tarp over the top of it.
From the aerial views, you can see where the roof is supposed
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to be, but it's completely missing.
The camper that Daniel's mom andbrother live in is directly
behind the mobile home and inside of the fence surrounding
the backyard. Within an hour, search and
rescue teams were deployed and the search began for Lily and
Jack. They got more information from
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Malaya and Daniel, who stated that they believe the children
had wandered off the property, threw the fence in the backyard
and made their way into the forest behind the home.
Over 160 people were searching the area around the home and in
the woods and the rough terrain.But after searching all day that
first day, on the second nothingwas found.
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The next day, on Saturday, May 3rd, the RCMP requested the help
of the Nova Scotia Guard to aid in the search for Lily and Jack.
They were assisted by helicopters, drones and tracking
dogs. During this time, bits and
pieces of new information was starting to come out.
For one, it is being said that Lily and Jack had not been seen
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by anybody other than Malaya andDaniel since Tuesday.
The kids attended Salt Springs Elementary School, which is a
small rural school about 11 miles from their house by bus.
The last day they were there andseen by the staff was on
Tuesday, April 29th. There was no school on Wednesday
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because of a school improvement day and then both kids were kept
home on Thursday and Friday because Lily had a cough.
So why did Jack have to miss school because Lily had a cough?
These kids could have actually been missing longer than what
was originally reported and in my opinion this is 1 huge red
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flag. The kids miss school for two
days for no seemingly good reason, then they go missing
immediately after. On May 3rd, Malaya made her only
statement to the public. Here is what she said, Quote.
I'm just staying as hopeful as possible.
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I want them home. I want to hold them.
I want them home. What happened was we woke up, I
heard them playing in the next room beside us and I was
drifting in and out of sleep. They're not the type of kids we
tell them not to go outside on their own.
We always make sure that we're out there with them watching
them, and they happen to just get out of that sliding door and
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we can't hear it when it opens. They were outside playing, but
we weren't aware of it at the time.
And the next thing we knew, it was quiet.
We get up and I tell him, my partner Daniel, I tell him, do
you hear the kids? And he says no.
We get up instantly and we're looking outside.
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We're looking everywhere yellingfor them.
And I instantly just called 911.I just had the instinct I needed
to call. They're both really go lucky
children. They're so sweet.
They talk to anyone, they'll talk your ear off, they will
speak to anyone in a store, everyone.
They're just extremely sweet kids.
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I appreciate the huge search effort going on right now, but
we've been pushing for an Amber Alert, which hasn't been issued.
Not just that they could possibly be abducted, which it
is a possibility that they couldhave been, but just an alert to
let everyone know that they're missing.
We had people text me saying that they weren't aware someone
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else let them know that they were missing and it would just
be nice if everyone could be alerted.
We thought maybe we had found tracks but it's still uncertain.
It's been raining and they're probably soaking wet, but with
the sun today I'm hopeful that they are feeling warm.
I'm sorry, but she's cringy. We're all filled with pain and
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sorrow because we just want themfound.
We want them home. Everyone loves them.
I'm sorry, Sorrow. That's a weird word to use.
Almost sounds like you're grieving the death of someone.
Where is the worry and panic? Malaya goes on to say Quote.
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They are definitely verbal and they do have possible autism,
but it's not extreme autism. It's just they have issues with
school and they don't catch up with the other kids.
I just want to remain hopeful, but there's always in a mother's
mind, you're always thinking theworst.
Last night was one of the worst nights because I didn't have
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them in their beds and I don't want to go through that another
night without them. I have so much to say about
this. There are so many red flags in
that statement in my opinion. First of all, when she said
something about how horrible thenight was without the kids in
their beds, I immediately got Chris Watts's porch interview
vibes. Also, why were a four and a six
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year old up by themselves? Why the mom was lying in a bed
drifting in and out of sleep at 10 AM?
And if they were home from school because Lily had a cough
the day before on Thursday, wouldn't you get up on Friday
morning to see if she's better so that maybe she can go to
school that day? Or didn't she have to call them
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off of school, at least get up and see if she needs medication
or something? I'm sure they would have liked
to have some breakfast. And she said that they know not
to go outside by themselves and that they never do.
So why would they that morning? And how do they know that the
kids went out the sliding door? And what does she mean that they
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were playing in the backyard butthat they weren't aware of it at
the time? Then how are you aware of it
now? And if they were in bed and they
just noticed that they didn't hear the kids in the next room
anymore, then how would they know any of this information?
I'm sorry but the math's not mathen for me.
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Also, from what I have gathered,the kids have never been
diagnosed with autism. They're just saying that they
have it. And she seems to think it's cute
that her kids are friendly with strangers and will talk to
anyone, even though several family members have said the
kids don't talk hardly at all. I feel like the reason that both
Malaya and Daniel keep reiterating the fact that the
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kids were not only vulnerable but were very friendly.
Also that it would be believablethat the kids could have been
easily abducted by a stranger. Although according to the
statistics in Canada, stranger abductions account for less than
1% of missing children, so this being what happened is highly
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unlikely. Also the RCMP saying that there
is nothing leading them to thinkthat it's an abduction, that's
why they haven't issued an AmberAlert.
Elias says in her interview thatshe wished that they would have
issued 1 so that everyone would be aware that the kids are
missing. But there are certain
requirements for an Amber Alert besides the indication of an
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abduction. There has to be a description of
a suspect vehicle. You don't put out an Amber Alert
just so everyone hears about thefact that a child is missing.
That's not the way it works. It just seems to me that these
two want everyone to believe that the kids were abducted, but
what parent would actually want to believe that their children
were taken by someone? It all just seems weird to me.
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Malaya constantly contradicts herself and her interview is
like a big word salad and her overall demeanor during this
interview and the things she says give me an icky feeling and
that's all we hear from her. She doesn't talk to the media
again. We then hear from Daniel though.
And Daniel, he loves to talk, but a lot of what he says
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contradicts Malaya, and both of them sound like they've
rehearsed these stories quite a bit before telling them to the
media. Daniels said that the kids never
go in the woods by themselves. OK, then why would you assume
that's where they took off to? He described the kids as
vulnerable and also autistic. Once again, just like Malaya.
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He calls the kids autistic when they have never been diagnosed.
He said that they never crossed the road with the kids, that
they had built some cabins in the woods behind the house and
that's as far as they take them now.
I have yet to see these cabins in the woods, but what I have
seen is some structure made out of wood that looks like a pin to
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keep something in such as maybe an animal, but there is no
opening in it. So who would lift an animal over
the top of it? If it wasn't created for an
animal, then what were they putting in there?
Some people have posted picturesof this pin and it looks like
there are some children's toys lying near it and in it.
I will post photos on the Victim's Voice Facebook page and
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on my website thevictimsvoice.org to show you
this weird creepy pen. He stated that on that Friday
morning, he and Malaya had askedthe kids to be quiet so that the
baby could sleep. He said it took him about 20
minutes to notice that the kids were gone.
Here is a quote from Daniel whenhe talked to the media on May
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4th. A few minutes went by.
I heard nothing, got up and wentinto the kitchen, checked
everything. I saw they weren't there,
checked their bedrooms and they weren't there.
So I looked out in the backyard.That's the only other place they
would go and their boots were gone.
The door, the sliding door was closed.
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Usually they don't close the door.
I usually have to remind them, remind them to close the door
over and over. So if they never close the door
and you always have to remind them, then why would they close
it that morning? And if the door was shut, why
did they both assumed that the kids had gone out that door and
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had been playing outside? Both parents seem too
concentrated on the quiet sliding door.
It's like they are telling a story that they both have
rehearsed and they need people to believe that the kids went
out this door and that it was soquiet that they didn't hear
them. How about taking some
accountability for not getting their asses out of bed and
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watching their little kids? Neither one of them seems to
want to admit they were neglecting the kids and instead
are acting like this is a situation that can happen to
anyone. He says he then jumped in his
vehicle and started looking for them.
He said Quote, I searched every dirt road and searched every
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culvert as fast as I could untilI got back and saw the RCMP
there. They wouldn't let me back in the
woods until there was a guy dressed in military gear.
He allowed me to jump back into the woods, so I jumped the back
fence and continued my search. End Quote.
Another quote from Daniel. The house is just silent.
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There's no magic in the air, it's just silence.
That's really all I can say. End Quote.
During his interviews with the press, people on social media
pointed out a small scratch on Daniel's face, wondering where
he could have gotten it. Daniel also believes the kids
might have been abducted and think the RCMP should be
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checking the borders and the airports.
Now we're going to go back to May 3rd for a second.
On May 3rd, a broadcast intrusive alert was sent out to
everyone in pick two and two other surrounding counties to
help engage the public. Something else happened on
Saturday, May 3rd, the day afterJack and Lily disappeared, that
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has made everyone side eye the parents.
That afternoon, Elena and Danielintended a briefing at the
Search and Rescue Headquarters near Lansdowne Station Rd.
Daniel said that halfway throughthe update, Malaya left to go
set in the back of an ambulance.She then left with her mother,
and Daniel hasn't seen her since.
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There were rumors that she had moved to a different part of the
province hours away, but it's been reported that she is
actually staying at her mother'shouse a few minutes away and
that she has blocked Daniel on her social media accounts and
has not even spoken to him sinceshe left.
This has sent out a million red flags to everyone that has been
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following the case. First of all, as a mother, why
would she leave the place where her kids were last seen?
There have been a couple of rumors floating around about why
Malaya left. Some people are saying it's
because after seeing the condition of the inside of the
mobile home that they are livingin, authorities told Malaya that
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if she wanted to keep Meadow in her custody and not have her
removed by the state and she needed to find somewhere else to
stay with her. It's also been said that earlier
on May 3rd, some of Malaya's family members came over to the
home and were accusing Daniel ofdoing something to the kids.
While this big fight was taking place in the yard, Daniel's mom
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heard it and came outside. She told Malaya that she was no
longer welcome to stay on the property and because Daniel's
family owned the property, Malaya had no choice but to
leave and took Meadow with her. It's also been said that Malaya
is now blaming Daniel for doing something to the kids.
But if this is true, then she had to be involved also, or had
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to have at least known about it and covered for him, because she
said that she and Daniel were inbed during the time that Jack
and Lily went missing. So there's that.
So now Daniel is front and center of the search and
investigation, and he's doing a lot of talking.
When the media talked to Daniel and asked him about Malaya
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leaving, he told them that he had no idea why she had left,
but admitted that he hadn't talked to her since and that she
had blocked him off of all social media.
During her one interview, Malayapretty much insinuated that
neither she nor Daniel saw the kids that morning.
They weren't sure of what they were wearing, and she said that
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they heard them playing in the next room.
And then things got quiet. There was no mention of seeing
either one of them. However, during one of the many
times Daniel spoke to the media,he said that Lily had her
backpack with her. He made the comment that it is
white with strawberries on it, but then also said that since it
had been in the woods with her, it was most likely brown by now.
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Which to me is a weird comment to make, but how did he know she
had her backpack with her? And at first they were unsure of
what Jack was wearing, only describing the missing rain
boots and saying he might have on an overnight pull up.
But then so that Jack probably would have taken off the pull up
once it got wet and heavy from the rain.
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Some of these parents comments are so absurd.
It's like they have no self-awareness and can't read
the room. Then Daniel's story changed
again and this time he said he did see Lily that morning before
the kids disappeared. He said she had come into the
bedroom where he and Malaya and the baby were laying down
several times and he said he thought Jack was playing in the
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kitchen. After not hearing them for a
while, he got up and realized that they were gone.
So he said he immediately jumpedin the car and drove down all
the dirt roads, checked the rivers and streams and all the
culverts. He said he walked through waist
deep water and scream their names until his throat hurt.
He said 10 minutes later, yes, 10 minutes, he got back to the
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house and then took off on foot to look for the kids.
First of all, it would take morethan 10 minutes to look in all
of these places. Second of all, if they thought
the kids went out the sliding door into the forest in the
back, then why did he first jumpin the car and look around those
roads and everywhere in front? This makes no sense.
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And also he was interviewed not long after doing all of this
supposedly. But his clothes were quite clean
and didn't appear to be wet at all, and his voice didn't sound
hoarse from yelling their names over and over.
He definitely doesn't look like the kind of person who just ran
through the forest, water and culverts looking for these kids.
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Throughout all of Daniel's interviews with the media, he
seems to be calm, composed and used past tense a lot when he
talks about the kids not appearing to be someone who is
frantic because their kids are missing and have an urgency to
find them. The search continued for Jack
and Lily. Daniel said that if possible, he
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would be in the woods searching also, but that the RCMP weren't
allowing him to anymore. Even the professional search and
rescue personnel were experiencing difficulties
because of the treacherous terrain in the forest.
One searcher had to be carried out on a stretcher because of
extreme muscle strain. Amy Hansen of Colchester County
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Ground Search and Rescue says the search has been exhausting
but through despite the difficult terrain and that the
volunteers are not giving up hope of finding the children.
While rescuers are still searching for the kids, the RCMP
are working behind the scenes. On May 3rd, the Mounties Major
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Crimes Unit became involved in the case.
Also. Fortunately, in Canada, all
missing children's cases are viewed as suspicious and are
investigated, so any electronicsin the house, including
computers and cell phones are being looked at, along with
possibly getting DNA samples from everyone who lives on the
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property. By May 5th, searchers had still
found no sign of the children. They had searched A4 square
kilometer area around the mobilehome with no luck.
There was some talk of a child'sboot print being found near the
house which brought searchers tolook in that area, but nothing
ever came of that lead scent. Dogs were brought in, but they
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couldn't pick up either kids scent past the end of the
driveway, so at this point they seem to be at a dead end.
On the morning of May 6th, Daniel was taken to the Pick Two
County District RCMP detachment and the nearby town of
Stellerton, where he was questioned for four hours.
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He later told the media that he was asked to go over timelines
to the minute and to go over allthe details of what had happened
on that Friday morning that the kids disappeared.
They also asked him to draw on the maps where he thinks the
children might be. He said, quote, they're easy on
me because they know I'm tellingthe truth about everything, OK?
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I don't call a four hour, quote,UN quote interview being easy on
him. And of course they're going to
be nice to him and even act likethey're friends.
It's all part of the interrogation process.
They're trying to win US trust. During this time, Michelle
Glasgow, who is the chief of theSIP Nikniketik First Nation,
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spoke about the case. The Sapicney can take are a
multi generational Micmac community in Nova Scotia made-up
of approximately 3000 people. And I'm so sorry if I said any
of those names wrong. They took back their Indigenous
name in 2013, which means where the wild potatoes grow.
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They are one of seven districts of Micmac E, the territory of
the Micmac. Belay's father is a member of
the MC Mac community. Michelle asked people to refrain
from jumping to conclusion so early on in the case.
She also warned people against sharing unverified information,
as this could complicate the efforts of the multiple agencies
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involved in the investigation. On the morning of May 7th, 2025,
the RCMP arrived at Daniel's home and asked him to hand over
his phone, which he did. Was no problem, he said.
Malaya's mom, Cindy Murray, was asked by the Globe how the
police were investigating the children's disappearance and her
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answer was quote, we're not discussing anything right now.
The police told us not to. End Quote.
She also said the police had told her and Malaya to not talk
to the media or to be on social media.
Malaya listened and deactivated her social media, but then she
reactivated it the next day for a short period.
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If you think it was to update her status about her children or
to plead for their safe return, you would be wrong.
She logged into Facebook so thatshe could change her
relationship status to single and to change her profile
picture. What the actual fuck?
Once again read the room Malaya.The RCMP also held a press
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conference on May 7th to give anupdate to the public.
They sadly announced that although they are going to
continue the search for the children, they are scaling back
their search because they believe since it has been six
days that they have been missingthat there is a slim chance that
the children are still alive, Staff Sergeant Curtis McKinnon
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stated. We're not packing up and we're
not giving up. It's just strange to me that
they're saying that they don't believe that the children could
still be alive. There have been people lost in
the forest for far longer than six days that have survived.
It just seems a little prematureto me, unless they know more
than what they're saying. Daniel made another statement.
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Of course, because this guy justloves to talk.
He said that he gathered some ofthe kids stuffed animals and
handed them over to the RCMP at the request of Malaya Lily's
white Unicorn and Jack's blue dinosaur.
To be specific, he said he also gave them the baby's white
giraffe and even gave them Malaya's pink teddy bear.
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He also told the Globe that the RCMP had advised him that they
were bringing in cadaver dogs along with divers.
And we're going to search the nearby lake for the kids.
This was done, but nothing was found.
On May 8th, the forest behind the family's home was searched
by helicopter along with heat detecting drones, but still
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nothing was found. They hadn't found the backpack
Daniel said that Lily took, theyhadn't found Jack's pull up, and
they hadn't found the kids rain boots.
They had found absolutely nothing to indicate that the
kids had made their way into theforest.
Officers also came back to the house to speak to Daniel again.
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This time they were plainclothesofficers.
And according to Daniel, becausewe know how, he just loves to
tell the media every single detail of what's going on.
He said that they were there to look at any electronics that
they had. He said they wanted to match up
any phones that had come into the yard around the time the
kids had disappeared. That same afternoon, Daniel had
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a friend of his drive him to thechildren's protective office in
Stellerton and an effort to see Meadow, but they refused to let
him see her. This is strange to me.
Even Summer Wells parents got tosee their boys under
supervision. So why wasn't he allowed to see
Meadow at all? Once again he spoke to the media
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about this saying that because of the children being missing
that CPS just wanted to keep a tight leash on things.
He made it sound like it was no big deal that he couldn't see
his daughter. This is the last thing we know
that has happened. After this Daniel seemed to have
gone quiet, maybe someone finally told him that talking to
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the media every chance he got wasn't a good idea.
As of now, they have searched 5.5 square kilometers with no
trace of the kids. No backpack, no pull up, no
boots, nothing. I don't believe the kids got
that far into the woods that they haven't been found and had
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left no trace. Someone who volunteers at the
kids schools who had direct contact with Lily the Monday
before she went missing, made a Facebook post to clear up some
of the rumors and misconceptionsin the case.
Here is what she wanted to say. Neither child has a confirmed
diagnosis of autism. They are being described as low
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verbal as you cannot always makeout what they are trying to say.
It's been confirmed that Lily was at school on Monday morning.
As we were talking about the tomato plants the school was
growing, Lily was pointing out all of the red tomatoes.
Lily and Jack are Indigenous andare affiliated with the Sepini
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Keitic First Nation. Family members on the scene
Friday told her that it's quite possible that Lily had a red
jacket on and maybe had a white backpack with her.
The white backpack that Daniel said may be brown now.
Positive clothing descriptions are not available as mom did not
physically lay eyes on them Friday morning.
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Only heard them playing in another room, or so they say.
It has been mentioned that it's very possible they are scared
and hiding due to all the searchefforts.
If you live close by, please check any places on your
property where they could be hiding.
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Jack loves dinosaurs and Lily loves princesses if you happen
to stumble upon either kiddo andneed a topic of conversation.
Lastly, you do not know who is reading your comments on social
media and if they have any relationship to the children or
their family. Be mindful of what you're typing
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and if it's not facts, keep it to yourself.
The media has reached out to theRCMP for an update, but they
won't give one right now, stating that they don't want to
risk the integrity of the investigation.
It sounds like to me that they are working behind the scenes
and they are on to something. So until they decide to tell us
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more, we wait. While we wait, there are
searchers. Searchers still looking for Lily
and Jack, but every day that goes by makes the chance of
finding them alive slimmer and slimmer.
On May 17th, the RCMP announced that they were going to renew
the search for Jack and Lily. They stated that they were going
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to search closer to the locationof the home rather than further
away as they did in the previoussearch.
Around this time, a post startedcirculating on social media from
a supposed neighbor. Here is what it says.
They live 500 feet from me. I didn't even know kids live
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there at all. I thought it was a drug house.
There's always cars there and it's so odd to me but I can't
remember clearly if it was Wednesday or Thursday but there
were so many cars there on that particular day that the driveway
was full and a car was even parked on the side of the main
Rd. It was like 2:00 PM at the
latest and I remember driving past judging them thinking how
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they were probably in there sharing a crack pipe or whatever
and then boom Friday this all comes out like I'm in distress
over it. It's so fucked.
I have to wonder if they will ever be found, let alone if we
will ever know the truth of whathappened to them.
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End Quote. Some people believe this person
is an actual neighbor, while others think they are just a
troll online giving false information.
Right now, however, no one knowswhat really happened.
All we have to go on is what theRCMP decides to tell us, but
even they don't know that much at the time of this recording.
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The kids have been missing for over 3 weeks and we have no more
information on where they could be than we did the day they
disappeared. There is supposed to be another
big search on land and in the air this weekend and hopefully
the RCMP is doing an extensive investigation.
And to everyone that was living on the property at the time Jack
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and Lily vanished, in my opinionthis goes way beyond parents who
weren't watching their kids. Someone knows something and
until the police can put together the pieces to this
confusing puzzle, we may never know what happened to these
children and that is heartbreaking to even think
about. I will keep following this case
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and if any new information comesout, I will make sure to give an
update on the victim's voice on social media and on the victim's
voice web page. Everyone come back next week for
a new episode. Until then, stay safe and peace
out.
Hello everyone, welcome back to The Victim's Voice.
I'm your host, Lorelei. Even though today's episode is
all the way from Nova Scotia, Canada, it's one that has
garnered attention internationally.
Not just one, but two kids just vanished from their home in
broad daylight with their parents just a few feet away in
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another room. But is this what really
happened? So many red flags have come out
throughout the mom and her quoteUN quote partners interviews and
a lot of people are not believing their story.
So I'm going to go over all the facts along with all of the
inconsistencies and at the end let you be the judge on what you
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believe happened to these two children.
With that being said, let's jumpright in.
On the morning of May 2nd, 2025,at approximately 10 AMA 911 call
came into Pick two County. The caller was a woman from Nova
Scotia, Canada named Malaya Brooks Murray.
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She was calling to report that her two children, 6 year old
Lily and four year old Jack, were missing from their home.
According to the information that they had gathered, the RCMP
or the Royal Canadian Mounted Police told the public that the
kids wandered away from their home that morning and were gone
before anyone in the house noticed.
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Immediately, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police issued A
vulnerable missing persons alertin pick two county and two
neighboring counties. They also asked for the public's
help in locating the kids. They said that Lily was possibly
wearing a pink sweater, pink pants and pink boots.
It was unknown what clothing Jack was wearing, but it was
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said that he could have been wearing an overnight pull up and
blue dinosaur rain boots. The family lives in a corner of
Pic 2 county in a community called Lansdowne, which is
described as a network of Backcountry roads that only the
locals know. These roads crisscross rivers
and dense forests that are swarming with black flies.
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There is hardly any cell servicein the area.
Most of the 100 people who live in Lansdowne are related and
have lived there for generations.
The community is a 15 minute drive from the closest town and
the only traffic that comes through the area are a few local
cars, logging trucks, and schoolbuses.
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Looking at a picture of the homeon Google Earth, which I will
post on my social media and web page, the mobile home that the
family lives in is plopped on a clearing in the middle of the
dense forest and rugged terrain.It's literally in the boondocks.
Lily, Jack and their mom Malaya moved into the community on
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Garlock Road just two years before into the childhood home
belonging to Daniel Martel, who is said to be Lily and Jack's
stepfather. But the couple isn't actually
married. They started dating around 3
years ago when Lily was 2 and Jack was just a baby.
Malaya and Daniel do have a 16 month old baby together, a
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little girl named Meadow. According to the family, Lily
and Jack's biological father hashad no contact with them at all
since they were born. Daniel's mother, Belinda Gray,
and Daniel's brother also live on the property.
They live in a dilapidated camper overlooking the fenced in
backyard of the mobile home thatMalaya, Daniel and the kids live
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in. However, there has been hardly
any mention or sighting of Daniel's brother or mother.
And when I say this camper is dilapidated, I mean it's
dilapidated. It doesn't even have a roof.
It's got a tarp over the top of it.
From the aerial views, you can see where the roof is supposed
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to be, but it's completely missing.
The camper that Daniel's mom andbrother live in is directly
behind the mobile home and inside of the fence surrounding
the backyard. Within an hour, search and
rescue teams were deployed and the search began for Lily and
Jack. They got more information from
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Malaya and Daniel, who stated that they believe the children
had wandered off the property, threw the fence in the backyard
and made their way into the forest behind the home.
Over 160 people were searching the area around the home and in
the woods and the rough terrain.But after searching all day that
first day, on the second nothingwas found.
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The next day, on Saturday, May 3rd, the RCMP requested the help
of the Nova Scotia Guard to aid in the search for Lily and Jack.
They were assisted by helicopters, drones and tracking
dogs. During this time, bits and
pieces of new information was starting to come out.
For one, it is being said that Lily and Jack had not been seen
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by anybody other than Malaya andDaniel since Tuesday.
The kids attended Salt Springs Elementary School, which is a
small rural school about 11 miles from their house by bus.
The last day they were there andseen by the staff was on
Tuesday, April 29th. There was no school on Wednesday
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because of a school improvement day and then both kids were kept
home on Thursday and Friday because Lily had a cough.
So why did Jack have to miss school because Lily had a cough?
These kids could have actually been missing longer than what
was originally reported and in my opinion this is 1 huge red
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flag. The kids miss school for two
days for no seemingly good reason, then they go missing
immediately after. On May 3rd, Malaya made her only
statement to the public. Here is what she said, Quote.
I'm just staying as hopeful as possible.
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I want them home. I want to hold them.
I want them home. What happened was we woke up, I
heard them playing in the next room beside us and I was
drifting in and out of sleep. They're not the type of kids we
tell them not to go outside on their own.
We always make sure that we're out there with them watching
them, and they happen to just get out of that sliding door and
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we can't hear it when it opens. They were outside playing, but
we weren't aware of it at the time.
And the next thing we knew, it was quiet.
We get up and I tell him, my partner Daniel, I tell him, do
you hear the kids? And he says no.
We get up instantly and we're looking outside.
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We're looking everywhere yellingfor them.
And I instantly just called 911.I just had the instinct I needed
to call. They're both really go lucky
children. They're so sweet.
They talk to anyone, they'll talk your ear off, they will
speak to anyone in a store, everyone.
They're just extremely sweet kids.
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I appreciate the huge search effort going on right now, but
we've been pushing for an Amber Alert, which hasn't been issued.
Not just that they could possibly be abducted, which it
is a possibility that they couldhave been, but just an alert to
let everyone know that they're missing.
We had people text me saying that they weren't aware someone
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else let them know that they were missing and it would just
be nice if everyone could be alerted.
We thought maybe we had found tracks but it's still uncertain.
It's been raining and they're probably soaking wet, but with
the sun today I'm hopeful that they are feeling warm.
I'm sorry, but she's cringy. We're all filled with pain and
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sorrow because we just want themfound.
We want them home. Everyone loves them.
I'm sorry, Sorrow. That's a weird word to use.
Almost sounds like you're grieving the death of someone.
Where is the worry and panic? Malaya goes on to say Quote.
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They are definitely verbal and they do have possible autism,
but it's not extreme autism. It's just they have issues with
school and they don't catch up with the other kids.
I just want to remain hopeful, but there's always in a mother's
mind, you're always thinking theworst.
Last night was one of the worst nights because I didn't have
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them in their beds and I don't want to go through that another
night without them. I have so much to say about
this. There are so many red flags in
that statement in my opinion. First of all, when she said
something about how horrible thenight was without the kids in
their beds, I immediately got Chris Watts's porch interview
vibes. Also, why were a four and a six
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year old up by themselves? Why the mom was lying in a bed
drifting in and out of sleep at 10 AM?
And if they were home from school because Lily had a cough
the day before on Thursday, wouldn't you get up on Friday
morning to see if she's better so that maybe she can go to
school that day? Or didn't she have to call them
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off of school, at least get up and see if she needs medication
or something? I'm sure they would have liked
to have some breakfast. And she said that they know not
to go outside by themselves and that they never do.
So why would they that morning? And how do they know that the
kids went out the sliding door? And what does she mean that they
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were playing in the backyard butthat they weren't aware of it at
the time? Then how are you aware of it
now? And if they were in bed and they
just noticed that they didn't hear the kids in the next room
anymore, then how would they know any of this information?
I'm sorry but the math's not mathen for me.
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Also, from what I have gathered,the kids have never been
diagnosed with autism. They're just saying that they
have it. And she seems to think it's cute
that her kids are friendly with strangers and will talk to
anyone, even though several family members have said the
kids don't talk hardly at all. I feel like the reason that both
Malaya and Daniel keep reiterating the fact that the
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kids were not only vulnerable but were very friendly.
Also that it would be believablethat the kids could have been
easily abducted by a stranger. Although according to the
statistics in Canada, stranger abductions account for less than
1% of missing children, so this being what happened is highly
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unlikely. Also the RCMP saying that there
is nothing leading them to thinkthat it's an abduction, that's
why they haven't issued an AmberAlert.
Elias says in her interview thatshe wished that they would have
issued 1 so that everyone would be aware that the kids are
missing. But there are certain
requirements for an Amber Alert besides the indication of an
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abduction. There has to be a description of
a suspect vehicle. You don't put out an Amber Alert
just so everyone hears about thefact that a child is missing.
That's not the way it works. It just seems to me that these
two want everyone to believe that the kids were abducted, but
what parent would actually want to believe that their children
were taken by someone? It all just seems weird to me.
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Malaya constantly contradicts herself and her interview is
like a big word salad and her overall demeanor during this
interview and the things she says give me an icky feeling and
that's all we hear from her. She doesn't talk to the media
again. We then hear from Daniel though.
And Daniel, he loves to talk, but a lot of what he says
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contradicts Malaya, and both of them sound like they've
rehearsed these stories quite a bit before telling them to the
media. Daniels said that the kids never
go in the woods by themselves. OK, then why would you assume
that's where they took off to? He described the kids as
vulnerable and also autistic. Once again, just like Malaya.
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He calls the kids autistic when they have never been diagnosed.
He said that they never crossed the road with the kids, that
they had built some cabins in the woods behind the house and
that's as far as they take them now.
I have yet to see these cabins in the woods, but what I have
seen is some structure made out of wood that looks like a pin to
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keep something in such as maybe an animal, but there is no
opening in it. So who would lift an animal over
the top of it? If it wasn't created for an
animal, then what were they putting in there?
Some people have posted picturesof this pin and it looks like
there are some children's toys lying near it and in it.
I will post photos on the Victim's Voice Facebook page and
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on my website thevictimsvoice.org to show you
this weird creepy pen. He stated that on that Friday
morning, he and Malaya had askedthe kids to be quiet so that the
baby could sleep. He said it took him about 20
minutes to notice that the kids were gone.
Here is a quote from Daniel whenhe talked to the media on May
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4th. A few minutes went by.
I heard nothing, got up and wentinto the kitchen, checked
everything. I saw they weren't there,
checked their bedrooms and they weren't there.
So I looked out in the backyard.That's the only other place they
would go and their boots were gone.
The door, the sliding door was closed.
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Usually they don't close the door.
I usually have to remind them, remind them to close the door
over and over. So if they never close the door
and you always have to remind them, then why would they close
it that morning? And if the door was shut, why
did they both assumed that the kids had gone out that door and
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had been playing outside? Both parents seem too
concentrated on the quiet sliding door.
It's like they are telling a story that they both have
rehearsed and they need people to believe that the kids went
out this door and that it was soquiet that they didn't hear
them. How about taking some
accountability for not getting their asses out of bed and
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watching their little kids? Neither one of them seems to
want to admit they were neglecting the kids and instead
are acting like this is a situation that can happen to
anyone. He says he then jumped in his
vehicle and started looking for them.
He said Quote, I searched every dirt road and searched every
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culvert as fast as I could untilI got back and saw the RCMP
there. They wouldn't let me back in the
woods until there was a guy dressed in military gear.
He allowed me to jump back into the woods, so I jumped the back
fence and continued my search. End Quote.
Another quote from Daniel. The house is just silent.
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There's no magic in the air, it's just silence.
That's really all I can say. End Quote.
During his interviews with the press, people on social media
pointed out a small scratch on Daniel's face, wondering where
he could have gotten it. Daniel also believes the kids
might have been abducted and think the RCMP should be
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checking the borders and the airports.
Now we're going to go back to May 3rd for a second.
On May 3rd, a broadcast intrusive alert was sent out to
everyone in pick two and two other surrounding counties to
help engage the public. Something else happened on
Saturday, May 3rd, the day afterJack and Lily disappeared, that
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has made everyone side eye the parents.
That afternoon, Elena and Danielintended a briefing at the
Search and Rescue Headquarters near Lansdowne Station Rd.
Daniel said that halfway throughthe update, Malaya left to go
set in the back of an ambulance.She then left with her mother,
and Daniel hasn't seen her since.
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There were rumors that she had moved to a different part of the
province hours away, but it's been reported that she is
actually staying at her mother'shouse a few minutes away and
that she has blocked Daniel on her social media accounts and
has not even spoken to him sinceshe left.
This has sent out a million red flags to everyone that has been
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following the case. First of all, as a mother, why
would she leave the place where her kids were last seen?
There have been a couple of rumors floating around about why
Malaya left. Some people are saying it's
because after seeing the condition of the inside of the
mobile home that they are livingin, authorities told Malaya that
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if she wanted to keep Meadow in her custody and not have her
removed by the state and she needed to find somewhere else to
stay with her. It's also been said that earlier
on May 3rd, some of Malaya's family members came over to the
home and were accusing Daniel ofdoing something to the kids.
While this big fight was taking place in the yard, Daniel's mom
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heard it and came outside. She told Malaya that she was no
longer welcome to stay on the property and because Daniel's
family owned the property, Malaya had no choice but to
leave and took Meadow with her. It's also been said that Malaya
is now blaming Daniel for doing something to the kids.
But if this is true, then she had to be involved also, or had
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to have at least known about it and covered for him, because she
said that she and Daniel were inbed during the time that Jack
and Lily went missing. So there's that.
So now Daniel is front and center of the search and
investigation, and he's doing a lot of talking.
When the media talked to Daniel and asked him about Malaya
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leaving, he told them that he had no idea why she had left,
but admitted that he hadn't talked to her since and that she
had blocked him off of all social media.
During her one interview, Malayapretty much insinuated that
neither she nor Daniel saw the kids that morning.
They weren't sure of what they were wearing, and she said that
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they heard them playing in the next room.
And then things got quiet. There was no mention of seeing
either one of them. However, during one of the many
times Daniel spoke to the media,he said that Lily had her
backpack with her. He made the comment that it is
white with strawberries on it, but then also said that since it
had been in the woods with her, it was most likely brown by now.
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Which to me is a weird comment to make, but how did he know she
had her backpack with her? And at first they were unsure of
what Jack was wearing, only describing the missing rain
boots and saying he might have on an overnight pull up.
But then so that Jack probably would have taken off the pull up
once it got wet and heavy from the rain.
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Some of these parents comments are so absurd.
It's like they have no self-awareness and can't read
the room. Then Daniel's story changed
again and this time he said he did see Lily that morning before
the kids disappeared. He said she had come into the
bedroom where he and Malaya and the baby were laying down
several times and he said he thought Jack was playing in the
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kitchen. After not hearing them for a
while, he got up and realized that they were gone.
So he said he immediately jumpedin the car and drove down all
the dirt roads, checked the rivers and streams and all the
culverts. He said he walked through waist
deep water and scream their names until his throat hurt.
He said 10 minutes later, yes, 10 minutes, he got back to the
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house and then took off on foot to look for the kids.
First of all, it would take morethan 10 minutes to look in all
of these places. Second of all, if they thought
the kids went out the sliding door into the forest in the
back, then why did he first jumpin the car and look around those
roads and everywhere in front? This makes no sense.
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And also he was interviewed not long after doing all of this
supposedly. But his clothes were quite clean
and didn't appear to be wet at all, and his voice didn't sound
hoarse from yelling their names over and over.
He definitely doesn't look like the kind of person who just ran
through the forest, water and culverts looking for these kids.
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Throughout all of Daniel's interviews with the media, he
seems to be calm, composed and used past tense a lot when he
talks about the kids not appearing to be someone who is
frantic because their kids are missing and have an urgency to
find them. The search continued for Jack
and Lily. Daniel said that if possible, he
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would be in the woods searching also, but that the RCMP weren't
allowing him to anymore. Even the professional search and
rescue personnel were experiencing difficulties
because of the treacherous terrain in the forest.
One searcher had to be carried out on a stretcher because of
extreme muscle strain. Amy Hansen of Colchester County
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Ground Search and Rescue says the search has been exhausting
but through despite the difficult terrain and that the
volunteers are not giving up hope of finding the children.
While rescuers are still searching for the kids, the RCMP
are working behind the scenes. On May 3rd, the Mounties Major
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Crimes Unit became involved in the case.
Also. Fortunately, in Canada, all
missing children's cases are viewed as suspicious and are
investigated, so any electronicsin the house, including
computers and cell phones are being looked at, along with
possibly getting DNA samples from everyone who lives on the
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property. By May 5th, searchers had still
found no sign of the children. They had searched A4 square
kilometer area around the mobilehome with no luck.
There was some talk of a child'sboot print being found near the
house which brought searchers tolook in that area, but nothing
ever came of that lead scent. Dogs were brought in, but they
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couldn't pick up either kids scent past the end of the
driveway, so at this point they seem to be at a dead end.
On the morning of May 6th, Daniel was taken to the Pick Two
County District RCMP detachment and the nearby town of
Stellerton, where he was questioned for four hours.
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He later told the media that he was asked to go over timelines
to the minute and to go over allthe details of what had happened
on that Friday morning that the kids disappeared.
They also asked him to draw on the maps where he thinks the
children might be. He said, quote, they're easy on
me because they know I'm tellingthe truth about everything, OK?
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I don't call a four hour, quote,UN quote interview being easy on
him. And of course they're going to
be nice to him and even act likethey're friends.
It's all part of the interrogation process.
They're trying to win US trust. During this time, Michelle
Glasgow, who is the chief of theSIP Nikniketik First Nation,
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spoke about the case. The Sapicney can take are a
multi generational Micmac community in Nova Scotia made-up
of approximately 3000 people. And I'm so sorry if I said any
of those names wrong. They took back their Indigenous
name in 2013, which means where the wild potatoes grow.
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They are one of seven districts of Micmac E, the territory of
the Micmac. Belay's father is a member of
the MC Mac community. Michelle asked people to refrain
from jumping to conclusion so early on in the case.
She also warned people against sharing unverified information,
as this could complicate the efforts of the multiple agencies
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involved in the investigation. On the morning of May 7th, 2025,
the RCMP arrived at Daniel's home and asked him to hand over
his phone, which he did. Was no problem, he said.
Malaya's mom, Cindy Murray, was asked by the Globe how the
police were investigating the children's disappearance and her
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answer was quote, we're not discussing anything right now.
The police told us not to. End Quote.
She also said the police had told her and Malaya to not talk
to the media or to be on social media.
Malaya listened and deactivated her social media, but then she
reactivated it the next day for a short period.
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If you think it was to update her status about her children or
to plead for their safe return, you would be wrong.
She logged into Facebook so thatshe could change her
relationship status to single and to change her profile
picture. What the actual fuck?
Once again read the room Malaya.The RCMP also held a press
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conference on May 7th to give anupdate to the public.
They sadly announced that although they are going to
continue the search for the children, they are scaling back
their search because they believe since it has been six
days that they have been missingthat there is a slim chance that
the children are still alive, Staff Sergeant Curtis McKinnon
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stated. We're not packing up and we're
not giving up. It's just strange to me that
they're saying that they don't believe that the children could
still be alive. There have been people lost in
the forest for far longer than six days that have survived.
It just seems a little prematureto me, unless they know more
than what they're saying. Daniel made another statement.
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Of course, because this guy justloves to talk.
He said that he gathered some ofthe kids stuffed animals and
handed them over to the RCMP at the request of Malaya Lily's
white Unicorn and Jack's blue dinosaur.
To be specific, he said he also gave them the baby's white
giraffe and even gave them Malaya's pink teddy bear.
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He also told the Globe that the RCMP had advised him that they
were bringing in cadaver dogs along with divers.
And we're going to search the nearby lake for the kids.
This was done, but nothing was found.
On May 8th, the forest behind the family's home was searched
by helicopter along with heat detecting drones, but still
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nothing was found. They hadn't found the backpack
Daniel said that Lily took, theyhadn't found Jack's pull up, and
they hadn't found the kids rain boots.
They had found absolutely nothing to indicate that the
kids had made their way into theforest.
Officers also came back to the house to speak to Daniel again.
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This time they were plainclothesofficers.
And according to Daniel, becausewe know how, he just loves to
tell the media every single detail of what's going on.
He said that they were there to look at any electronics that
they had. He said they wanted to match up
any phones that had come into the yard around the time the
kids had disappeared. That same afternoon, Daniel had
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a friend of his drive him to thechildren's protective office in
Stellerton and an effort to see Meadow, but they refused to let
him see her. This is strange to me.
Even Summer Wells parents got tosee their boys under
supervision. So why wasn't he allowed to see
Meadow at all? Once again he spoke to the media
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about this saying that because of the children being missing
that CPS just wanted to keep a tight leash on things.
He made it sound like it was no big deal that he couldn't see
his daughter. This is the last thing we know
that has happened. After this Daniel seemed to have
gone quiet, maybe someone finally told him that talking to
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the media every chance he got wasn't a good idea.
As of now, they have searched 5.5 square kilometers with no
trace of the kids. No backpack, no pull up, no
boots, nothing. I don't believe the kids got
that far into the woods that they haven't been found and had
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left no trace. Someone who volunteers at the
kids schools who had direct contact with Lily the Monday
before she went missing, made a Facebook post to clear up some
of the rumors and misconceptionsin the case.
Here is what she wanted to say. Neither child has a confirmed
diagnosis of autism. They are being described as low
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verbal as you cannot always makeout what they are trying to say.
It's been confirmed that Lily was at school on Monday morning.
As we were talking about the tomato plants the school was
growing, Lily was pointing out all of the red tomatoes.
Lily and Jack are Indigenous andare affiliated with the Sepini
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Keitic First Nation. Family members on the scene
Friday told her that it's quite possible that Lily had a red
jacket on and maybe had a white backpack with her.
The white backpack that Daniel said may be brown now.
Positive clothing descriptions are not available as mom did not
physically lay eyes on them Friday morning.
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Only heard them playing in another room, or so they say.
It has been mentioned that it's very possible they are scared
and hiding due to all the searchefforts.
If you live close by, please check any places on your
property where they could be hiding.
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Jack loves dinosaurs and Lily loves princesses if you happen
to stumble upon either kiddo andneed a topic of conversation.
Lastly, you do not know who is reading your comments on social
media and if they have any relationship to the children or
their family. Be mindful of what you're typing
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and if it's not facts, keep it to yourself.
The media has reached out to theRCMP for an update, but they
won't give one right now, stating that they don't want to
risk the integrity of the investigation.
It sounds like to me that they are working behind the scenes
and they are on to something. So until they decide to tell us
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more, we wait. While we wait, there are
searchers. Searchers still looking for Lily
and Jack, but every day that goes by makes the chance of
finding them alive slimmer and slimmer.
On May 17th, the RCMP announced that they were going to renew
the search for Jack and Lily. They stated that they were going
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to search closer to the locationof the home rather than further
away as they did in the previoussearch.
Around this time, a post startedcirculating on social media from
a supposed neighbor. Here is what it says.
They live 500 feet from me. I didn't even know kids live
(32:43):
there at all. I thought it was a drug house.
There's always cars there and it's so odd to me but I can't
remember clearly if it was Wednesday or Thursday but there
were so many cars there on that particular day that the driveway
was full and a car was even parked on the side of the main
Rd. It was like 2:00 PM at the
latest and I remember driving past judging them thinking how
(33:07):
they were probably in there sharing a crack pipe or whatever
and then boom Friday this all comes out like I'm in distress
over it. It's so fucked.
I have to wonder if they will ever be found, let alone if we
will ever know the truth of whathappened to them.
(33:28):
End Quote. Some people believe this person
is an actual neighbor, while others think they are just a
troll online giving false information.
Right now, however, no one knowswhat really happened.
All we have to go on is what theRCMP decides to tell us, but
even they don't know that much at the time of this recording.
(33:51):
The kids have been missing for over 3 weeks and we have no more
information on where they could be than we did the day they
disappeared. There is supposed to be another
big search on land and in the air this weekend and hopefully
the RCMP is doing an extensive investigation.
And to everyone that was living on the property at the time Jack
(34:12):
and Lily vanished, in my opinionthis goes way beyond parents who
weren't watching their kids. Someone knows something and
until the police can put together the pieces to this
confusing puzzle, we may never know what happened to these
children and that is heartbreaking to even think
about. I will keep following this case
(34:32):
and if any new information comesout, I will make sure to give an
update on the victim's voice on social media and on the victim's
voice web page. Everyone come back next week for
a new episode. Until then, stay safe and peace
out.
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