A Conversation about Eugenics and the State of the World

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Welcome to Village Oak Tree. I'm your host, Hans O'Donnell. And this week, I have my friend, Mitch Beck. We're going to talk about eugenics. And this is in regard to an article he wrote here a week or so ago. I found another one in a news article.

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And he's got another one in the pipeline. So that's what we're going to discuss today, how eugenics has and is still affecting everyday people around the world, especially right here in North America.
So without any more to do, let me bring up Mitch here and let's get the show on the road. Hey, Mitch. Hi, my friend. How are you? We're doing good. So let's talk about what prompted you to do this.

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I mean, this is not your first article on eugenics. But what's kind of prompting you to kind of lean on this subject a little bit?
Well, I am perhaps one of the targeted groups that might be affected by all of this. I think this affects me directly and people of color.

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I got the impression that taking away the DEI, for example, the impression that the media tries to tell people is that it gives unqualified people jobs that they shouldn't have.
But my understanding of it is that everybody has equal qualifications for whatever positions that are available. And they simply don't allow you to discriminate against people who are disabled or women or people of color.

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When you take that away, go ahead. I'm here.
I mean, you're right. I always thought that too. Go ahead.
So to take it away, and then from my immigrant perspective, if you don't have access to health care in the United States, you die.
Right.
So if your jobs are tied to your insurance and you're taking those, the opportunities for people to find jobs, what are you saying? You're saying that these people are not going to be allowed to progress in the society.

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Right.
You know, you're saying that ostensibly, you're giving people, you're taking away a way to discriminate against, let's say, white people, because that's the impression they have.
But in doing that, you're taking away, you're actually disadvantageing large groups of the society. They won't be able to progress, buy homes, get jobs, that sort of thing, get health care.

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Right.
And their populations are going to go down.
Yeah.
That's eugenics.
And yeah, then that's eugenics. So let's do this.
I am going to bring up your article from a week or so ago.
Sure.
Just to get everybody an idea of what we're talking about here.

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Here it is.
So this is the article that we're referencing. This is the first one that we're referencing.
You wrote this back on February 13th and I've been hanging on to it ever since.
Okay.
So tell us a little bit about what's in it.
It's basically the evolution of eugenics.

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If you were to save seeds, that's how I started the article, and choose the best seeds to give you the best plans.
That's a rudimentary way of looking at eugenics. You're picking a generation in the future that has the characteristics that you want.
When you apply that to humans, you'll start saying, I don't want these kinds of people in my society.

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So that's what has led into the Jews. I don't want those people.
But he also did it to people who are disabled. He did it to the gay community.
He did it to people who had mental issues, challenges.
He actively sought to remove those people from the population because he wanted to have a perfect race of beings that populated his country and then further out into the world because he was invading everybody at the time.

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Right.
But as we progress in time, people resist that sort of thing. They don't accept, you know, the outright murder and disenfranchising of whole swaths of people.
So eugenics had to evolve. Not only that, if you have a homogenous society where everybody looks the same, you can't discriminate against, you can't pick and choose certain types of people when everybody looks the same.

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So eugenics evolved in such a way that they looked at your ideologies, what you believed in, and if you had the wrong ideology, they would get rid of you.
Right.
We're talking about intellectuals, we're talking about artists, poets, writers. In many societies across time, they did not agree with the prevailing political view.

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So the politicians took them out, got rid of them.
Yeah.
And as we evolved even further up to today, you'll find that some of the tech billionaires and tech bros, they're saying that they're going to enhance humanity.
They're going to live forever. They're going to allow you to build your brain circuitry with computer and AI. You're hearing them say, talking about things like uploading your consciousness to the cloud.

(05:49):
Yeah.
But who is that for? Is it for me? Is it for you? We are not among their chosen group of people that they want to go into the future.
Right.
So their enhancements and their longevity studies and pumping themselves with young people's plasma and all of that, it's to allow a certain group of people access to the future and denying it to everyone else.

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That's eugenics.
Right.
It's the same thing.
And the thing is, I've read a lot of stories about this, like you were talking about.
And, you know, one of the things that caught my eye, and I read this a long time ago, is that Hitler got the idea from the Americans.
He liked it so much, he decided to use it for himself.
But it was the Americans, it was a scientist in the United States in the 1920s.

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That publicly came up with this idea. And of course, in the United States, it was all about, you know, the eugenics of, you know, not against black and brown people at that point, and how to phase them out of society, so on and so forth.
But you got to understand that even back in the 19th century, the white people that were running all over the United States trying to go coast to coast, when they rounded up all of the Native Americans and put them on their reservations, they were sterilizing them.

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And they were sterilizing them in the 20th century.
And then Trump, during his last presidency, he was doing all this thing with the, you know, the illegal migrants and migrants themselves coming across the border, putting them in cages down there on the border, and any of them that were pregnant,
once they gave birth while they were in custody, there was one private security place down there, they had hired a doctor to do sterilizations on these black Americans.

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They got no kind of trouble for it. Okay. Now, here's the thing. We now have a crew of people that are in our government right now, who are all about bringing that back.
Okay. Now, you know, this is all your history stuff here. So I'm going to bring up the next article. And I've got this one, like I said, from Mother Jones.

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Let me get rid of the advertising here. Okay. So this one here, I got just last week, on February 28, forced sterilization of disabled people isn't a relic of the past.
There are 31 states according to this article that legalize sterilization of people who are permanently disabled.

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31 states. Okay. Imagine that.
Here's the issue. Who decides what's disabled? Who decides, you see, it's up to the person who's sitting in the chair. It could be anyone.
Exactly. That's the whole thing. So given what we know of current red state politics these days, it's not hard to imagine that states like Idaho, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas,

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enacting this stuff right now, and probably not publicizing it. I mean, how many poor, indigent women, you know, what I call, you know, when I lived in Texas, you know, they call them, you know, call themselves Tejas,
Texas, Mexican people, you know, but living down there who are poor, and they go to a Medicaid, well, you know, we don't have Medicaid anymore as of, you know, this month.

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But, you know, when we had Medicaid, they were going to these, you know, fertility clinics and coming out sterilized and didn't even know it.
Right.
And so, you know, bringing that back and making that a public thing. I mean, I can see that happening. And of course, Trump, he's going to leave everything to the states to decide.
He doesn't want to get involved. Okay. He doesn't want to part of that. He's leaving it to the states to decide how they want to run things.

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And some of those states are crazy.
31 states have laws on the books right now who, you know, who say it's legal for them to sterilize disabled people. Well, again, how, you know, it's not hard to imagine them throwing that out there to people who are immigrant, you know, doing like they used to do with the

(10:34):
Native Americans.
Right.
You know, and may still be doing for all I know, up on the reservations.
But.
The big thing is, it's not hard to imagine that these states going ahead with something like that.
And then what, what is disabled. I mean, what, what is the definition.
Is it somebody who has high blood pressure.

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Is it somebody who has a heart or diabetes.
Is it somebody who's transgender. Is it a mental illness. Is it somebody who's depressed.
It's too wide and too broad and net to cast.
Well, you know, if I, if I were to make an educated guess for these people, I would say it would be anybody who is physically unable to go to work for an employer.

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Okay.
What about, it doesn't really matter what your disability is. If you are physically or mentally unable to go to work for an employer in any shape or form, and you are now, you know, a doctor determines that you are permanently disabled, then you could be sterilized, basically.

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What about people that are transgender, for example.
Oh yeah, forget that people.
You're going to be on a list. You got to stand. Trump is following Trump is fall is following a playbook. Okay, right. It may not seem like it, but he is following a playbook.
It looks like it's a combination of Hitler's my cop project 2025.

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Okay, they're kind of a, they're kind of a blend right now from everything I can see. And so, as we will, as we remember reading from, you know, the history books, for those that were able to read history books.
When the Nazis decided that they were going to go after people they didn't like the first ones they went after was the Transgenders and people in general.

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They were the first ones to get picked up and, you know, put away, do whatever they burned all our literature so on so forth.
Then after that they started going after, you know, the migrant groups and eventually settle on the Jews and everybody else.
Jerry, I'm seeing a recording error on my end.
What kind of recording error.
Just a recording error. Oh, there we go. And it says uploading recordings.

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There you go.
Okay.
And then there's a little bit of an internet glitch.
Okay, yeah.
But here's the thing though, you know, it's a bit of a segue, but think about that.
You know, we're, we are starting to experience in this country, more and more things like that these days, simply because our infrastructure is falling apart.

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Okay.
And the more it falls apart, the more we end up with news articles like this one from Mother Jones.
They would use this as a distraction from their own failures.
Yes.
That's, that's the whole point. And as we know, Donald Trump is the master of smoking mirrors.
Okay. He's been doing it all his life.

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And he's still doing it.
Right.
So, you know, think about it as, you know, why we're talking about as far as all these states, we have some states.
I was reading, matter of fact, I might even be in this, if it's in this article.
I don't remember. There was a, I don't see it now.

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I was reading something else about this, where they actually had a map of these states and showing which ones were, you know, had actual the, you know, actual law still on the books.
Some, there were some states that weren't sure they had laws on the books, because they, you know, they went so far back in time.

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So they were unsure. And there's other states obviously that, you know, had had don't have the laws at all.
So, you know, the big thing about it is, what's going to happen if, if, if these states decided to just publicly go after everybody.
Okay.
San, hey, you're, you know, in our, if you live in our state, you're, you're disabled, you're transgender, you're LGBTQ, what have you, you are part of this now marginalized group of people.

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You will now be forcibly sterilized, whether you like it or not. Or you can leave.
Well, you know, mass exodus. And I say this only because even though they're not in, you know, going through sterilization necessarily right now.
But the exodus is on. I've been reading a lot of articles here and there, how the trans and LGBTQ population within the United States are gearing up, and they have been leaving, you know, since Trump's last presidency, but even more so now that he's back in

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office. They are, they are actually migrating out of these states and heading somewhere where they think they can be safe.
But if you think about it a little bit as well, they say, taking away Medicare, taking away low, low end, low cost, snap, EBT, all that, the food cards.
Right.
The people who are unable to work or are not as productive as they should be, are being squeezed out of the population by taking away all their benefits by taking away their ability to feed themselves to find insurance to find housing.

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Eugenics again.
Oh, yeah.
That's what it is.
It is a form of, yeah.
You're not physically going in there with the scalpel and doing something.
But it, yeah, it's all a form of eugenics. Okay.
Yeah.
Divide the population up. The haves and have not so to speak.
And it's, you know, if it comes down to, I mean, you know, this goes back to the very beginning of when Europeans first started coming to the United States.

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Okay.
Then when they brought the first slaves to the United States in 1621, they started eugenics right then and there on the spot.
As soon as they got off the boat and set foot on Virginia shores, there was automatically eugenics going on right there.
Okay.
They didn't mess around.
They had their program, they had their playbook and they knew what they were doing.

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Absolutely.
This wasn't random.
They were, they, I mean, it's a brilliant, evil genius that was a player.
They knew what they were doing and they just let it happen.
Europe has been doing it for centuries. So, you know, it's not that they knew far as it goes.
Just that they now had nobody to stop them and nobody to tell them, no, you can't do that.

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So off they went.
And so, you know, then we got to the mid 18th, you know, 19th century and, you know, it, it didn't get that.
It didn't really go away per se.
It just morphed into something else.
Right.
And it's been, it's been, you know, morphing ever since.

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Yeah.
In one fashion or another.
And now where we are, you know, in the 21st century, it's not, it's not gone away.
It's just morphed once again.
Yep.
And what I'm worried about is that this stuff is going to move backwards in time.
So if you think about it, from a holistic perspective, you're disabling the institutions that protect people, the EPA, the, uh, no, it's getting defunded.

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The defense, the FBI, federal, the whole federal workforce, the state parks, when you break those, when you break those, it's going to take generations to rebuild them.
So we're going, we're taking America back in time to a time where nothing is working, where the few have all the wealth.

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Yep.
Where the rest of us have no benefits, no hope.
I mean, the next, the critical step in my opinion is if they take the guns, if they go after the guns, that's when we need to get out.
Well, here's the thing.
What do you think?
They aren't going to take away the guns.
Okay.
So the ones, all the people that got these idiots elected are the ones with the guns.

(19:11):
Okay.
Okay.
Now granted, a lot of other people have guns too.
But the, the second amendment flag waivers are the ones who got Trump elected into first place.
So Trump and company knows they dare not say anything about guns.
But on the other hand, they're doing away with gun laws as we speak.
Okay.

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They're repealing gun laws.
And we are going back to what I call a more of a wild, wild West type scenario.
Obviously not as bad as it was back in the 19th century, but we are reverting backwards.
I mean, we are going back to what I consider the 1920s.
Okay.
When we had the oligarchs that were running rampant and right after World War One, and you know, suck it up every dollar they could get their hands on.

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In 1929, we saw what happened.
Okay.
Depression.
That's coming again.
I think so.
I agree with you.
Okay.
But in that era, when in the 1920s, is that a gilded era?
I don't remember.
Well, they call it many things, you know, the gilded era, the flapper, the whole whatever you want to call it.
But yeah, it was like a decade of, you know, where all these rich people cast and basically stole the stock market.

(20:31):
Right.
And right.
While left and right, because nobody was telling them to know you can't do that.
There were no laws in place back then.
And told the cracks.
And if you look at it, they are repealing child labor laws.
Yep.
Young kids can go back to work in the mines in the meat packing plants, whatever that they have set up for young kids.

(20:52):
Well, think about this.
And I said something about this in a previous post.
It's one of those deals where certain, again, it's going back to the States.
Now, last year, and it was last year, the year before Arkansas passed a law saying that any kid who wanted to as young as age 14, they wanted to go to work, they could go to work.
Right.

(21:13):
That's their choice.
Now, again, they're, you know, the feds are leaving it up to the States to decide how they want to enact laws in that regard.
But think about this.
They're gutting the education system, the public education system in the United States.
And if you do away with all public schools, where are these kids going to go to the workforce?
To the meat packing plant?

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Well, that's just it.
Without anywhere to go.
It's like public school, for example, they're going to be running around the streets getting into trouble.
So what's going to happen?
The authorities going to round them up and they're going to give them a choice.
You either.
You either go to jail.
Basically a concentration camp, boot camp type thing.

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And you're going to work there.
Or you can go to work for a private corporation like an ag, agricultural corporation, a meat packing plant, or what have you.
But you're going to go to work, but you're getting off the street.
We're not giving you a choice.
There's one more.
Or you can join the army.
Yeah, well, they won't take, they won't take them that young.

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That makes sense too.
They can put them in sometimes.
The United States is one of the only countries that has the youngest draft age or even, even recruitment age.
All other countries are in their mid twenties.
I mean, like Ukraine, for example, you know, there was a big flake, you know, a big shake up over there when Lindsey Graham and company tried to get Ukraine to lower their conscription age from 25 down to 18.

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Oh, because the Americans have that.
It should be like the Americans.
They did refuse, but they had already lowered it from 27 to 25.
So the big thing about it is Europe doesn't have an 18 year, whatever, you know what I mean?
The United States is the only one that does that really.
As far as I know.
But regardless, I don't think the United States is stupid enough to go even lower than that, especially now their recruitments are going through the roof.

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Did you look into that?
Recruitments are going up.
Yeah, I did.
And I, you understand being a being a retired army veteran, I get a quarterly periodical from the army.
And this last one I got here last week, it said right on the front page that recruitments were at an all time high yada, yada, yada.

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And so it goes back to what you were saying, you know, telling me a couple of weeks ago that yeah, it is going through the roof.
Now, I want to bet the biggest part of that is because the private sector has been laying off people like crazy and all these young people are looking for work.
That makes sense.
It happens all the time.
That makes so much sense.
Yes.

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So wait a fill the army up.
Yeah.
These kids are looking for work.
They're looking for a roof over their head.
You know, stable life sort of.
And they're desperate because nobody's hiring right now.
And that makes such good sense.
Yeah.
It's the first time I've seen this.
Another thing that is another interesting thing to me is that you join the army.

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You have the opportunity to get free education, free housing.
Well, so here's the knee.
Here's the knee.
Back in the old days.
Yes, I would agree with that.
There was the old Vietnam era GI Bill.
Then he came out with the Montgomery GI Bill and they came up with something a little bit different.
A couple of years later, but up until about maybe I want to say five or six years ago, that wasn't, it wasn't that bad of a deal.

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Both my oldest sons were in on the Montgomery GI Bill up until probably up until the mid teens, I guess, but then they started doing away with it.
They went to a different program.
So now the retirement program they have for 20 year vets is not like it used to be.

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Okay.
You pay it, you get something back.
It's almost like a, almost like a 401k thing.
Right.
Yeah.
They've changed it.
So anybody, anybody that lists now, if you decide you want to stay 20 years, you're not going to get that automatic pension check like I got.
Okay.
That's, they did away with that.
The other thing they did away with was the way they run the college funds.

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It's not like it used to be.
So no more free education.
Well, you pay into it and you get some money back.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's almost like the private sector.
Well, definitely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's almost like the private sector.
So the kids are getting screwed now.
So close back to what I just said, the only reason enlistments are up right now because these guys were all out of, were all unemployed and they're looking for work.

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They heard, they heard that the military is hiring.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah.
And then, and then if you look, if you listen to what happened to Trump and Vance and Zelensky, yesterday, they said in this place up for war.
Yes.
Yeah.
What are you coming?
Trump, Trump doesn't want to go to war.
Right.
Okay.
That's a given.

(26:23):
All right.
Now, I read something about this and I put this in my earlier podcast.
Despite all of that, Trump doesn't want to go to war.
It cost him too much.
He doesn't like money unless it's, unless, unless it's necessary to benefit himself.
Okay.
And it goes along with must, Vance, so on.

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The only way they spend money is if there's something in it for them.
But having said that, right now, he may not have a, he may not have a choice because something that I caught last week is that the Arab nations right now are starting to give up.
They go after Israel.
Well, I saw somebody, somebody was saying that it'd be 52s are gathering in the Middle East.

(27:08):
Yep.
Because they think that they're going to start to strike at Iran.
Well, there may be some rumor to that, but no, I don't think it's necessarily that we're going to start something.
And what's going on right now, and this is, this is a fact that I got off one of the independent news military experts last week, couple of them, they both said the same thing.

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Egypt is moving all our tank divisions up to the Israeli border.
What?
Yes, as we speak.
Oh my God.
Yes.
Egypt is mobilizing to the Israeli border.
Now, Jordan is not doing anything right now, but they're buddy buddies with Egypt.
So if Egypt is moving, the big issue right now is Egypt is moving.

(27:56):
Okay.
Right.
And it may be nothing but a defensive posture.
Nobody really knows for sure.
But the problem is there's the Iran factor.
They're, they're wondering right now, and this is what these guys are speculating is, is there some kind of coordinated effort going on between Iran, Egypt, Iraq, and Turkey, maybe.

(28:18):
Okay.
And now Israel has moved itself into Southwestern Syria and taken over the whole bottoms southwestern corner all the way up to Damascus.
And they say that it's ours now.
Okay.
And the new government, HTS is running over there.
He doesn't have anything to do anything.
He doesn't have any way to do anything about it.
He's stuck in the middle.

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Turkey doesn't like Israel.
Okay.
But they've been busy up on the northern border.
So what else happened last week?
Tell me.
The Kurds decided to have a ceasefire.
Okay.
Their leader said, Hey, put your good, put your guns down.
We're done.
Okay.
Now, will they, will they do that?

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I'd say a good portion, a good portion of them may do that.
Okay.
So if the Kurds, if the Kurds decide to lay down their arms, right, leave Turkey with nobody to fight.
And they're like, Oh, I guess what?
HTS has got nothing to stand in their way.
So will the Turkey, will the Turkish army mobilize down through what used to be Syria and try to move the IDF out of, out of southwest, out of southwest corner down there?

(29:33):
Well, there's some stories that maybe that they're thinking about it.
Right.
Wow.
So many things are going on.
Well, here's the thing.
What they're kind of worried about is, are we now seeing the beginnings of a, of a standup to a regional war where the Arab nations, not all of them, but a good majority of them are going to pool their resources and encircle Israel and, and pound them into the dust.

(30:01):
Okay.
My goodness.
Well, the other part of it is Egypt wants to do something for the Palestinians.
So their plan would be to move Israel out and then go in there and help rebuild Palestine and Gaza and, you know, give Palestine, Palestine back to the Palestinians.
Okay.
And in order to do that, you've got to push the IDF out of Gaza, out of the West Bank, out of Syria and Lebanon.

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And so you imagine, if Hezbollah, the Iraqi militias, being sanctioned by the, by the little
bit of the Iraqi army that's, that they have, the Iranians, Egyptians, and of course, Jordan would have really not much choice, but to join in.
Right.
If they all gathered together and encircled Israel and started going after them, Israel wouldn't stand a chance.

(30:54):
Israel is, is overused nukes.
That's their only choice.
Yeah.
That's their only choice.
Yeah.
Now, so then what?
Exactly.
So then what?
You know, Saudi, you're gonna, you're gonna have to wonder, you know, who has, who else has nukes over there?

(31:15):
Well, nobody really knows.
The Iranians are the Iranians are the equation.
Nobody really knows that they've actually made a bomb yet.
If I were them, I mean, just putting myself in their shoes, I would have, I would have secretly been doing it.
Oh, yeah.
Because you can't trust.
Right.
You know, from presidency to presidency, the political changes.
Well, the worst part about it is what's, what would Trump do?

(31:37):
Okay.
We don't really know.
He's, you know, he's, he sent another $3 billion to Israel here last few days.
Right.
But I think what a lot of them were saying was it was already earmarked.
It was already in the pipeline.
So it's not really, you know, they couldn't really stop it.
But will he stop any future payments and munitions dumps and so on.

(31:59):
It doesn't look like he's going to stop the munitions going to Israel.
But would Trump put American boots on the ground over there to try to stop the Arab nations?
That's an interesting question.
That's an interesting question because the, the, the he's, he's firing the people that are experienced and in the positions.

(32:23):
Right.
The new people coming in, do they have the loyalty of the troops?
No.
So can you command the troops, the people beneath you to do things that are against the Constitution because I've been hearing
Yes, you can.
That it rumbles that they don't want to do things against the Constitution.
Well, again, it all depends on, it all depends on the generals.

(32:46):
Okay.
Now you got to understand, forget about the joint chiefs of staffs.
Okay.
They're just figureheads.
Okay.
They're there just as advisors.
They're basically retired.
You know, they're not retired, retired, but they're, they're, they're on their last job.
That's right.
There's highs.
They're going to go in the chain of command.
And once they're finished with their current joint chiefs of command jobs, they retire and live on their pensions the rest of their life.

(33:13):
Yada, yada, yada.
Can I just say something quick?
Yeah.
I saw an article where China and Russia are trying to hire these people that are being rid of from the FBI, the generals, maybe.
Sure.
So it's not, it's not insane.
Yeah.
All the information and skill and, and, and, you know, knowledge that they have.

(33:34):
There's, there's two schools of thought with that.
So first of all, yes, I could see where Russia and China would try really, really hard to try and recruit these people with their skill sets and knowledge.
But will Trump let them leave the country?
You don't need to leave the country.
Oh yeah.
You would have to.
You would have to.

(33:55):
Okay.
Yes, I suppose.
You would have to work over there.
See, you would have to work in Russia or China.
Because here's the thing.
As we all know, big brother watches everybody nowadays and Musk is ramping that up like you wouldn't believe.
It must has his way.
Every American across every part of the United States, you know, excited, you know, except down in the, in the deep deserts and in the, in a, in a big forest up north.

(34:23):
Everybody's going to be under surveillance.
Okay.
And the only way Musk won't be able to see you is if you're hiding underneath a cactus somewhere, or you're up in a big piney wood somewhere up in a, up in the Cascades or the Rocky Mountains.
And other than that, but he's planning on blanketing the United States.

(34:44):
This is must.
This is what he wants to do.
He wants to blank at the United States with surveillance equipment so that the deep state can monitor citizens no matter where they are and what they're doing.
So that means they're going to invade your phones, going to invade your computers, they're going to invade everything you do.
So you take that in, you take that in mind.

(35:06):
And here you are, you're a government employee.
You just got laid off or, or, you know, fired from your federal civil servant job.
And you got a Chinese recruiter or even a Russian recruiter coming to you and saying, Hey, how'd you like to come work for us?
No problem.
Offer you a bigger salary than what you were getting.
Great.
Problem is, first of all, there's, if that starts happening, Trump's Trump State Department is going to put a travel ban on these people.

(35:35):
Okay.
Guaranteed.
He's going to put a mark on their passports saying you can't go.
All right.
They try to go.
There'll be a mark in their passports, not necessarily a physical mark on their paper passport, but it's going to be in their digital record.
And it's going to get flagged at TSA.
And they will not be able to board the plane.

(35:56):
Wow.
Yeah.
So the only way these guys could go would be to leave the United States via some circuit to his route, like crossing the Canadian border, for example, and then catch the flight out of Canada or Mexico, and then flying overseas to China.
Or Russia.
That's the only way that would work.
And again, these guys are going to get flagged at any kind of border crossing.

(36:19):
So.
But in the, you fired all these federal employees.
They don't have insurance.
They don't have, they need to eat.
Yeah.
And you're just going to prevent them from leaving the country.
What are you trying to do to the people that live here?
He don't care.
They don't care.
No, we're bringing it back to eugenics.
Yeah.
There's a group of people that want to have all the resources and everybody else, they're not going to get it.

(36:43):
Well, they haven't figured it out yet.
Are you saying that they are applying eugenics to parts of the poor white community?
Because that's what I'm seeing.
Well, yes, to a degree.
Yeah.
To a degree.
Sure.
So it goes back to your article and that one, you know, I showed everybody from Mother Jones.
Okay.

(37:04):
If you're disabled, you, if you're living in one of those flag states, there's a good possibility that you could be sterilized, physically sterilized, whether it's with a chemical sterilization method, or they actually get in there with a knife and cut parts of you out and make you sterile.
Okay.
That is a law that's on the books.

(37:25):
Yeah.
They could do that.
Or the other part of it is, as far as the other eugenics goes, they could marginalize communities through voting blocks and various what have you.
But a lot of it is do it with economics.
They can continue to make these people live in very poor conditions, keep their incomes low, keep them subservient to the government with handouts and food handouts, so on and so forth.

(37:56):
And make them totally dependent on because they're going to be hungry.
Okay.
Now, having said that, what happens to a lot of these people, you know, I don't, I don't quite understand the mentality how these people think that they could get away with it simply because the demographics within the United States.

(38:17):
There's more really dark skinned people in this country than there are white people right now.
And here's the interesting thing, I was looking into the, the, but they do outnumber the white people.
If you look at the birth rates, the Hispanic population is the one that is reproducing at scale.
Yep.
Isn't it interesting that they're targeting Hispanic community.

(38:41):
I don't think it's the Hispanics necessarily by themselves.
I think they're targeting anybody that's got a permanent suntan.
That's just the bottom line. Okay. They don't care if you're from Southwest Asia. They don't care if you're from Latin America. They don't care if you're from Africa.
It'll care if you're from the Middle East. If you got any kind of a permanent suntan, you're a target.

(39:03):
Okay. That's just the way it is.
I mean, Trump, famous for that, when his in his first presidency, when he called, you know, people from the Middle East and from, you know, war torn countries in Central Africa, you know, coming from shit whole countries.
Okay. He still thinks that. All right. And you guys, you know, you got somebody like, what's his name?

(39:27):
I forget his name now. His, his right hand immigrations are the guy with the ball head Miller.
Yeah. Miller, who's a ardent nationalist, white nationalist. Okay.
He has no problem at all getting rid of anybody with a permanent suntan. Okay. He has no problem at all.
He's ardently supporting that as much as he can. So the problem is, these guys haven't figured out that they're outnumbered.

(39:55):
Okay.
Here's an, this is just another perspective. I wrote an article a few months ago, a few years ago, where I looked into the environmental pollution that we're exposed to continuously, the PFAS, the microplastics, the BPA, BPC.
And all of those things are reproductive, they interfere with the reproductive cycles that we work with.

(40:19):
They drop your fertility male and female. And because they are endemic, they are everywhere, you can't escape them in a modern society.
It suggested to me that the fall in birth rates, the collapse in birth rates has more to do with modernity itself.
Yeah. Living in a complex environment. Because if you look at where the birth rates are still high, it's in rural places like in Africa and some parts of India where they don't have as much exposure to the chemicals of modernity.

(40:49):
That's right.
And they are still able to reproduce to keep to maintain their population.
Yeah.
And if we are saying that in the US, we are trying to impose eugenics on the populations that you don't want, at the same time, we're still exposing everybody else to these chemicals that are collapsing fertility.
Yeah.
It's not going to work.

(41:10):
No, but they are thinking about that.
Because that's the whole point is they don't think about that. They only think on the short term. Okay.
Their short term thinking is we don't like these people. We need to get rid of them. That's the bottom line.
They don't think about the consequences. They aren't thinking 10 years out. They aren't. They're not thinking that far ahead.

(41:31):
And that's the problem.
It's mediocre thinking.
Very much so. Very much so.
The only thing Trump cares about is his image. Okay.
He's all about making America, you know, America great again because it looks good for his personal image. He's going to be the hero.
Trump wants to be the hero. Period.
And he's not thinking any farther ahead than that. Bottom line.

(41:54):
Now, is he being smart about it? Well, sort of. You know, like I said earlier, he sort of kind of has a plan.
It's not a really good one, but it's sort of kind of had a plan.
Concepts of a plan.
The concept of a plan. And as you can see, almost on a daily basis, that plan is getting tweaked as things happen. Okay.
It reacts to a lot of things like this business was Linsky yesterday. He reacted to that. Okay.

(42:21):
So we have a lot of reactionary things going on, but bottom line, they have a baseline plan that they're sort of kind of working on.
And, you know, it's going to change here and there over time. But in the short term, that's they're pushing that real hard.
What does that mean? What does that mean for everybody else? Well, that means that people like you and me who are middle class or not middle class or really poor are going to suffer the consequences.

(42:53):
We're going to deal with no EPA right now. So no Medicaid, things like that. So that means that our environment is going to deteriorate even more.
Our incomes are going to deteriorate even more. And if they privatize social security, like they're, you know, there's a lot of stuff in the news about that going on right now.
If they do something stupid like that, you're going to have a whole lot of people living on the street.

(43:19):
And it's illegal to live on the streets. Did you see the past, the past, those laws?
Well, then it goes back to what do we do with all these people because now they're homeless. Well, let's put them to work.
Oh my God. But just to bring it, bring back something we said earlier, in the Gilded Age, you had children working. You had no environmental protections.

(43:42):
You had no EPA, no OSHA, no social security. I said, if I remember correctly, that came in the 1920s.
No protections for people even in the banks who let FDIC and all that. So are we bringing back the Gilded Age because it certainly seems like.
So they are. That's the whole point of all this deregulation. It's one of the things that Trump promised everybody last year when he was running around all his rallies, that he wanted to deregulate and he wanted to gut the government.

(44:11):
Okay. That was their promise to the American people. We want to deregulate all these agencies. We want to deregulate all these industries, so on so forth.
And so here's, and this basically bottom line is that they deregulate everything. The corporations who have no conscience whatsoever can come in and do whatever they want to.
And so they can treat people poorly. They can enact slave labor or next slave labor.

(44:38):
Minimum wage.
And if the government doesn't do anything about it, they get away with it and everybody's happy except for the slave labor.
Exactly. One of my neighbors was talking to me a couple of days ago. He worked as a handyman and he was in construction his whole life.
He doesn't have any social security, but he's on disability now. And his mom, he used her social security, whatever she had, whatever little she had to put her in a home with Medicaid, I think.

(45:12):
But all that is gone.
Yep.
So he's having trouble collecting his disability.
Yep.
And he's getting trouble. He doesn't know what to do with his mom because they're telling him that they no longer able to keep her in the home that she's in.
Yep.
What is he going to do with his mom?
That's my question.
She has dementia. She can't live alone and he doesn't have a home.

(45:33):
Right.
I mean, he's living honestly in a caravan that he built.
Yeah.
He's living in someone's backyard.
Yeah.
And here's the thing, they're in trouble.
Well, I mean, it's like last year, they published a report last fall. I think it came out in October, November that over 800,000 people are homeless right now in the United States.
Now that was last fall. And that number goes up exponentially every month.

(45:57):
Mm hmm.
Okay. Now you add to that all these people that just got lost their civil service jobs.
Yeah.
And it goes back to what you were saying earlier. What are they going to do now? Okay. Well, obviously they're going to collect unemployment for now.
Right.
But as we know, you and I both been working class unemployment barely pays the bills. If that. Okay. For somebody who was making, you know, anywhere from 50,000 to a low end civil service worker to a six figure salary.

(46:28):
If you were upper upper administration, you now just lost your job. Well, obviously if you're making six figures, you were living like you were making six figures because you always figured that your job was going to go on forever.
Right.
Well, guess what? Now you got a big house. You got a big car. You got a family. You got bills to pay and you're trying to collect unemployment and it's not going to cover anywhere near what you were making as a civil servant.

(46:54):
You're going to lose your house. You're going to lose your car.
You're going to probably lose your health insurance.
That's right. That's right. So now we go back to eventually, once the unemployment benefits run out, and these people realized that the private sector is not going to hire them. Okay.
Right.
Not many of them anyway.
Mm hmm.
And these guys are going to be all like, okay, we need to get we're desperate now. We're going to have to do something. This is where all this shady business of them having to figure out where can I go to work?

(47:25):
And I don't care where it is. I got to feed my family.
I got to eat. Yeah.
Okay.
Now, Canada can't take them. All right.
They've already said they're going to shut their borders.
Mm hmm.
And they're, you know, their immigration has become very restricted, especially towards Americans.
Mexico, there's possibilities in Mexico because China is doing a lot of investment down there.

(47:49):
So yeah, there's a possibility that they could find work in Mexico, but it's not going to be anywhere near lifestyle that they used to have.
Right.
And eventually with, you know, a lot of Americans looking down south of the border, Mexico is going to finally say, Hey, there's too many of you. We can't take care of you. Go back home.

(48:10):
Go back home. Yeah.
Because you need a visa now.
Right. Right. See, so that's, you know, again, it's going to be a mess, but nobody's thinking that far ahead.
Really? Nobody's thinking that far ahead. Not in the federal government. Nobody cares. All right. Trump don't care.
Musk doesn't care. Okay. They don't care. They laid all these people off. Now they're on their own. Too bad. So sad.

(48:32):
And only the strong will survive.
Yeah.
Well, you see, it ties back into the whole topic.
Well, it goes back to that whole thing you were talking about earlier. Yeah, these guys are going to get serious about looking for work.
And it may not be in the United States.
So these recruiters are actively searching out for skilled talent, especially these guys where government administrators, especially anybody that was in the IT field.

(49:02):
Oh, yeah. They can find work overseas.
Very easy.
Very easy.
Very easy.
And it won't be Europe because Europe's economies are collapsing like crazy.
Europe is going to collapse.
Yeah.
I was looking at the German, the AFD party.
I was somewhere I was hearing that all of their support comes from East Germany.

(49:24):
Yeah.
So that was historically where the wall was up and they were poor.
They did not, they were never given the opportunity to enter into the modern Germany as it is.
Right.
They still, although they were extensive, free, they never were able to develop economically.
And the suffering is disproportionate in that part of the country, which is why they're pushing to vote, they're voting right.

(49:51):
More and more towards that.
Well, go ahead.
There's two, there's two parts of that. And you're right.
East German, what used to be East Germany is the basically root of, and this is a clue, but you got to include Austria with that too.
Yeah.
So Austria and East, what used to be East Germany, that is pushing this whole conservative right wing political, you know, ideology, if you will, which encompasses the ADF right now.

(50:22):
So AFD.
But the big thing about that is nobody really knows for sure how they're going to form a government around all that because Merz has said, I'm not working with them people.
Even though they have over 20% of the voters, he said, I'm not working with them people. I don't care.
So will they be able to put a coalition government together? There's a lot of doubts.

(50:47):
Wow.
And so it's going to be chaos over the next couple of months. Well, they try to figure that out.
The problem is, is while they're all in chaos, they really don't have a government because now they don't have much of a government other than a caretaker environment.
Then all of their internal domestic issues, economic issues are going to get rapidly worse.

(51:10):
And then noticing that America is pushing them in a way that makes them vassals, you know, that they don't have their own independence.
They don't like it.
So I don't think they will be happy to continue that way.
No, no, no, Merz is definitely not going to want to continue that.
He wants to stand up for himself and so on to a fourth. And I'm like, yeah, go for it. I think he should.

(51:31):
Okay. But if you do it smartly, you can make it happen. But if you get stupid, well, you know, you end up like the polls.
Right. So in all of this chaos, in all of this chaos, do you think that we're going to see some war, some real war?
I don't think so. Not in Europe.
Truthfully, not in Europe.
I don't think so. I mean, the problem is, the all these idiots are posturing and making all this noise.

(51:58):
We need to get a defense fund going. We need to make a European army and so on and so forth.
What they're not factoring in is all the people who are going to make up this army. They don't want no part of it.
Okay.
Yeah.
The French populace has already told me, Krone, no, we, that's not, we're not doing that. Not going to happen.

(52:19):
And that's one of the reasons why he's lame duck.
And so Germany is in the same problem right now. They're German people. They have no desire to become soldiers.
Okay.
Right.
Not any whatsoever. They do not want to have all this money of their tax dollars spent on this military budget.
They're against it, which is one of the reasons why all, you know, alternative for Deutschland is such a popular party right now because those people say no.

(52:49):
Okay.
So, you know, is this money home?
Well, again, they haven't, I haven't heard anything about what their plan is for their, you know, their economic issues.
All I've heard them say is we want to get rid of the immigrants and we want to get rid of all this war posturing and so on and so forth.
So, you know, I don't know.

(53:12):
And again, because the coalitions can't quite seem to come together and even even Merzys party, which is a dual hat party because of its CDU and CS, CSU, they call themselves the union, even they can't even, they can't agree on how they want to do things.
So, I mean, Germany is a hot mess right now.

(53:34):
And so you got to figure out everybody else is just kind of watching.
Great Britain.
And so, you know, Trump is in trouble.
Now he's not going to lose his, you know, downing street seat, but he's in big trouble.
He's probably very one of the most unpopular PMs that they've had.
I mean, he's even, he's he got evil.

(53:55):
He's got even worse popular rating than Starmac.
I saw him, I saw that he said, Ukraine is going to join NATO.
And then Trump said Ukraine will never join NATO.
The allies still now, I'd say after their meeting last week, last week, Starmac went back to England and he's having a chat with his boys over there.

(54:17):
Yeah, because there's a combat for him.
Yeah, yeah, it's looking bad.
Well, I mean, not just him, but looking bad for England altogether, as far as the US is concerned.
Yeah, he's got to go back to England and say, Hey, the United States is stepping back.
They're not our buddies anymore.
We're going to have to figure something out.
And then if you if you look at how Biden supported Zelensky, almost unlimited funds and whatever, when Trump says, No, I'm not going to do it.

(54:44):
Well, that's part of the reason because Trump hates Biden every which way but loose.
And he's got to do whatever he can to roll things up.
What what happens to the rest of the world that is looking on now to say that if we needed us to support us, it entirely depends on who's the president and we can't really make long term plans.
Exactly.
Based on the person who's there.
Yep.

(55:05):
You know, yeah.
So there's a lot of that right now.
I wouldn't want to be, you know, what I think how Kissinger said it to be America's friend is dangerous to be America's enemy is dangerous, but to be America's friend is fatal something like that.
Well, that's an old Kissinger quote.
Yeah, it's an old Kissinger quote and it everybody's quoting that nowadays, because they're right.

(55:30):
They're right.
Yeah, they're right.
They're right.
Trump doesn't seem to care that he's isolating the United States from the rest of the world.
He doesn't seem to care.
Okay.
And it's like, okay.
So meanwhile, you and me who are living in the trenches.
We're like, okay, what's coming up for us.
What's next.
That's exactly why I do all of this reading and I'm trying to figure out where we, how do we position ourselves.

(55:55):
Yeah, you don't get enrolled.
Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean it's going to get.
I'm worried.
I mean, even in my position, I'm worried.
Okay.
So many people are going to be unemployed.
Right.
Well, there are many people.
It's like, it's like, you know, I mentioned before here earlier today, the one thing that people don't understand right now is because they don't see it.

(56:18):
But when the unemployment statistics come out in about a month, maybe two months down a road.
And the percentage of people that are unemployed is going to go up probably several percentage points because of all these layoffs.
Now you're going to add into that the tech industries have been laying off like crazy for several months.
Okay.

(56:39):
You add into that all of these civil servants who are now going to go on the unemployment rolls.
Those statistics have not hit the databases yet, but they will.
And when those numbers come out in the news feeds, then people are going to wake up and realize, oh, we're in trouble.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so now there's no jobs for these people.

(57:03):
And then if you add to that, I saw Target lost $15 billion in sales.
Yeah.
So they're going to start closing stores.
Sure.
It's inevitable, right?
Yeah.
But Target isn't the only one that people are going to boycott because they're picking their boycotts and everybody is doing it at the same time.
Yeah.
Maybe Walmart is going to get it.
Maybe, you know, we've already seen.
Well, the biggest thing is going to hit Walmart is lack of Chinese imports.

(57:26):
Or more expensive Chinese imports.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Well, you got to understand is that Walmart, like Costco, like Amazon, like all these other companies, they're just,
what I call middle retailers.

(57:48):
Okay.
This thing.
They buy from whoever gives them the cheapest wholesale prices around the world and they resell it to American consumers.
Okay.
That's, you know, they sell it to at a retail price.
That's how they make their money.
So you got a corporation, a world, I mean, not so worldly, but Walmart, you know, is a bit international a little bit.

(58:11):
Okay.
So they're going to go up in Canada and they may have a couple other places, but Walmart being the corporate entity that it is, regardless of where they are, they depend on cheap imports to fill their shelves.
And when the tariffs come into place, which they already have, Chinese, the Chinese tariffs have been in place, but they're going to go up here next week.

(58:37):
That's one thing Trump has been for sure on.
Those are going to start next week.
And once all these import duties start affecting the prices, a lot of these people who would been going to Walmart for as long as they can remember, because then where they could buy cheap groceries, buy their cheap plastic goods, so on and so forth, no matter where they came from in the world.

(58:58):
That's no longer cheap.
Walmart is going to lose a lot of business.
Yeah.
Okay.
And because it's not that people can afford to go somewhere else, it's just that they just can't afford to buy there, period.
And they can't afford to buy a target.
They can't afford to buy TJ Maxx, can't afford to buy anybody, because the prices have gone up beyond their ability to pay for.

(59:20):
Yeah.
That's the way it's going.
That's what it's going to end up to.
The other part of that equation is that a lot of these wholesalers who used to just buy containers full of goods from China, for example, now those prices are going to go up.
So now these wholesalers are going to have to jack their prices up and they're not going to get many sales from corporations like Walmart Target and all these blind their goods because they're not coming off.

(59:49):
They're not going off the shelves anymore, so they're going to be buying less than wholesalers.
The whole supply chain is going to go up in smoke.
And then I've seen Canada, they're boycotting American products.
Yes, they are.
They're firing up on the shelves.
So what does that mean in terms of our international trade?
It's going to get worse.

(01:00:11):
It's going to slow and dry up.
Yeah.
Right.
So that means that employment in the US, the people that are making those things, is going to hit that.
That's right.
That's right.
It's going to be like dropping a pedal in a slow lake.
Okay.
You know what happens?
The ripple effect.
Yeah.
And it's going to ripple out and hit every part of the economy in the United States.

(01:00:35):
Do you think Germany is having problems right now?
Wait till the ripple starts working here in the United States.
We are just now seeing the very tippy toe.
The first pebble has been dropped into that still lake.
All these layoffs from the civil service by the thousands and 10,000.
My governor passed some laws recently again, where you can just walk around with a gun.

(01:00:58):
You don't need a license.
You don't need a concealed carry.
Just stick it in your belt and walk around because it's fine.
We are a free second amendment state.
Sure.
Can you tell me, based on everything we just said, what's going to happen to the United States?
It's going to be the Wild West.
It's going to become the Wild West.
I agree with you.

(01:01:19):
I completely agree with you.
That's right.
Because I stopped out of traffic a couple of minutes ago when I picked my mama.
The light turned green.
I normally wait two seconds to see if anybody is breaking the light.
I don't just go through it in this section.
The guy behind me is so angry that I'm taking two seconds.
He's leaning on his horn.
And then he goes around me even though, you know, I was about to pull off.

(01:01:42):
He's so angry.
That's right.
And that's one of the things that Trump is not factoring into all his,
his consequential decisions.
There are a lot of angry Americans out there right now.
He's angry Americans voted him in so that they can have a better life because he promised them a better life.
Well, you know what?

(01:02:03):
I tell, I've been telling people now for months that the con has been on.
He's calling you people.
I'm sorry.
And it's starting to, it's starting to kind of ripple out now.
Okay.
People haven't, people haven't figured it out yet.
Okay.
A lot of these people may never figure it out.
The problem is those are the ones are going to get the angriest because they can't figure out why their life get better.

(01:02:29):
And we are, we elected Trump to make our lives better.
And my life is getting worse.
I'm going to get out on Trump because he's my hero, but I'm going to get out on my neighbor.
Because he's an immigrant.
I got a perfect permanent sometimes, right?
So they're going to take what Trump is telling them and implement it wherever they are, according to whatever resources they have.

(01:02:53):
So you might blow my car up.
You might burn my house down.
Who knows?
I'm just saying that's the mentality that,
Well, the thing is that's what's coming.
That's just coming.
We're in the world of age from that yet, but if things don't change, that's what's coming.
You're going to have states like Florida, for example, where pretty much to Sanctis and hey, you guys can do whatever you want to,

(01:03:17):
especially if you got white skin on.
If you go blow up your neighbor's car because he's an immigrant.
Yeah. Okay. No problem.
Have a nice day.
As long as you didn't, you know, throw any shrapnel in any white guys.
No problem.
No problem.
Have a nice day. Okay.
Oh, you got a gun in your back pocket.
Oh, you just shot this guy.
Why did you shoot him?
Oh, he made me angry.

(01:03:38):
He did this.
He did that.
Okay.
Have a nice day.
They want to enforce the law.
Yeah.
It's coming.
There's going to be, there's going to be a two to an extent, there's going to be some of that going down a road, unless things change.
I mean, there's a lot of rumors going around right now that the MAGA Republicans have already done.

(01:04:00):
The Republicans have already started here in 2025.
They're already starting to rig up the 2026 midterm elections in their favor.
Even now, if they wanted so bad, they can have it because it's going to fall in there.
It's going to fall apart.
We know that.
We're not all together.
No, that I'm not a straight.
Yeah. Right now, the way things are, it's not sustainable.

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So the question is what's going to happen.
Okay.
I, you know, I think it's going to be a big deal.
I think it's going to be uneven as far as the result, you know, the, um, the consequences of what's going on.
There are going to be some states that are going to have some very violent reactions when it finally sticks in that their lives are going to continue to get worse.

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There's other states that are going to be more reasonable.
There's other states that are going to be more reasonable to calm their people down and so on so forth.
But again, it's going to come back to the states who are going to have to manage this for themselves because Trump is going to step away and said, Hey, that's not my problem.

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Okay. I just tried to help.
You know, I just try to help you.
And what happened, you know, and he's got a pointy finger at states like Maryland and New York.
Um, about a week ago, the governor of Maine criticized Donald Trump.
Yeah.
And so he got all over.
Okay.
He made a big public spectacle about it.
Now she doesn't care.

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But that's an example of what's coming.
Okay.
Other states like Maine, who aren't afraid to stand up the Trump like Maryland, for example, is another one of those states.
They don't have any problems standing up to this stuff.
But what, you know, what's going to happen to them?
Well, they're going to have to four it up because the red stage are becoming form.

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Okay.
The other thing is I'm looking at where the money comes from to fund the federal government.
A lot of it comes from.
That goes back to this whole business of bait and switch.
Okay.
This is what's going on right now within the United States.
Now, have you, have you seen any of the news articles about how Trump and Musk want to inventory and audit for the next I saw that.

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And the only place that the United States puts their goal Boolean in storage.
Okay.
Knox is the most famous one.
Okay.
But the plan is for Musk to audit all of its gold bullion across the country.
Right.
They want an accurate count of all these, you know, gold bars.

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So Thomas ought wrote an article here last week.
I have to read it.
You sent it to me read that because I read it.
I've got a link in my, you know, podcast I did earlier today.
Okay.
And he's saying that the reason they're doing this is because when they have an accurate count of a jack exactly how many ounces of gold United States has in their storage vaults.

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They're going to artificially inflate the price of gold.
They're going to cash in on it.
And then once the American public finds out what they did, the price is going to drop and these guys going to walk away with billions of dollars.
My goodness.
So they're going to show it to them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or as you know, as he's any, you know, part of the article he said is if they, if they, if they don't, if they do.

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It worst case scenario, they figure out a way to steal it.
I mean, obviously they're not going to roll, roll trucks up the Fort Knox and roll as gold, but they would figure out a way to transfer that gold to somewhere else on the pretext of something official.

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And then the gold is gone.
Okay.
I mean, you know, I mean, that's, that's the worst case scenario.
I doubt seriously if that would happen, but.
Well, I mean, if somebody is doing the auditing, they can count appropriate.
I only saw five of them over there.
Yeah.
Well, the idea is they get an accurate count of how much they have.

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They put it into a monetary value.
Then they artificially inflate the price of gold, which is great for anybody who's investing in gold, because now your gold stock price is going to go through the roof.
It's about $3,000 an ounce now.
Yeah.
Well, it's coming down.
Okay.
But let's say they jack it up to $4,000, $5,000.
Okay.

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What if they did that artificially?
Right.
And then they cashed in on it.
Okay.
Let's say they sold it off.
Then what?
Yeah, they make the money and whoever's left.
And then when the economy crashes, they go away all the way.
They laugh all the way to the bank.
So do you think that they want, they deliberately want to crash the economy?

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They don't care.
Because it seems that like they're transnationalists, they don't need, they don't have any loyalty to the US.
So if we go to Helena and basket, they don't care.
No, they don't.
And that's the whole point.
They don't care.
How many citizenships does Musk have right now?
South African, United States.

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Okay.
Right.
Think about that.
Okay.
And then there's the Musk.
All right.
Jeff Bezos.
Imagine what the money he has.
Think about how many passports he has.
Correct.
It makes sense.
Yeah, because you can buy.
This is something I learned last year.
A lot of these countries in Europe, in order to entice a lot of these very rich Americans,

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we're offering them for an exorbitant fee.
If you could afford to pay it.
A second passport.
So if you're rich enough to afford a second, maybe third or fourth passport, because you
pay the exorbitant fees to the governments, I mean, it's extortion, but they don't care.
All right.
They got the money to burn.

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Yeah.
When the stuff hits the fan here in the United States, they can just get on a plane and leave.
Yep.
Get on their plane.
Uh-huh.
They don't even have to wait for a commercial flight.
They don't even have to wait for a commercial one.
Okay.
And that's the whole point is that these filthy rich people have no, it's like, look at all
the Russian oligarchs that left Russia three years ago.

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Yeah.
Okay.
And they disappeared all over Europe and ran off with all their ill-gotten goods and
took away them.
Okay.
Yeah.
And nearly gutted the economy three years ago.
Mm-hmm.
Putin managed to make some deals after they were gone.
He also tried to punish these guys in one fashion or another, arrest them doing all kinds

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of other things and so on and so forth.
We got the same thing going on here in the United States.
We have a lot of oligarchs in this country who have, like you said, no allegiance whatsoever
to the United States government.
Right.
The only thing they have allegiance to is their material wealth.
And they will keep the secret that everywhere they can.
Uh-huh.
They have a cashier, cash there, cash everywhere.

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Exactly.
Exactly.
Yep.
And you know, you can imagine the old cartoons of Scrooge McDuck and his vault full of gold
coins.
He started selling imaginary bags of gold coins, putting on their fancy mega-yachts and
taking off for the blue skies.
Yeah.

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What a world.
And the thing about it is, what gets me is that, I mean, some of us can see it.
You see it, I see it.
Uh-huh.
But the average person doesn't care.
Nope.
They're not hungry enough yet.
They're not hungry enough yet.
That's the key.
Okay.
The majority of the people right now are just now figuring out Medicaid is gone.

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Okay.
Yeah.
And it's only been a week or two.
So for them, they're starting to, they do, they do what most people do.
Oh my God.
I can't get my benefits anymore.
What do I do?
What do I do?
So right now, they're going after every local government official.
They can get their hands on trying to get their benefits back.
Okay.
When they exhaust all of those resources, then it's going to kind of settle in like,

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oh my God, it's not coming back.
I can't get my stuff back.
Now what do I do?
And they're going to start thinking about it.
Okay.
Well, while they're thinking about it, their rent is coming due or their mortgage payments
come and do.
They're barely able to scrape enough money together to go to the grocery store.
Right.

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So once that runs out, then they're really going to start wondering, okay, what do I do
now?
Where am I going to, where am I going to get money to take care of myself?
In the short term, they'll be using their credit cards.
They'll be, they'll be hitting it too hard.
I think all credit cards, that's through the roof right now.
That's right.
That's right.
So max them out.

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And then when that runs out, they're done.
They're done.
They're done.
And the thing is, you think that, you think about that.
We're talking about like one person, you know, as you and I are talking right now, but you,
you blow that out by the millions of people who are going to be in that situation.
What I was reading something a week or two ago, I think Lena Petrova said something about

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it.
One of her, one of her podcasts, 72 million people lost their Medicaid benefits.
That's a lot of people.
And they're scrambling right now to figure out a way to get them back or whatever.
And that's on the short term.

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But in the long term, we all know that unless Trump reverses his position, which he may
cause he changes his mind almost every day.
Okay.
But until he changes his mind, if he does, these people are going to be scrambling, trying
to figure out how to replace those because they're afraid of going hungry.
They're worried about losing the roof overhead.
So on.

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So forth.
And then they're going to go to a doctor, all the basic things that should be a human
right.
Right.
It's just not in this country.
It's not in this country.
But until they exhaust all of those local resources, that's what they're going to do.
They're only thinking what's going on in their immediate tribe.
Okay.

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Their neighborhood, their community, so on.
That's part of the problem or part of it.
Maybe it's deliberate, but America's convinced people to only worry about themselves.
That's right.
And this individual rugged individualism has its place, but it takes your eye off the fact
that we survive together or we fail together.
Yep.
You know, I often wonder what it is that must perhaps or whoever's in the office told

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Trump to convince him to discard so much of America because a government isn't a business.
It's a support system that is.
We got to understand Donald Trump doesn't understand people.
Okay.
People are just numbers to him.
Right.
Okay.
All he sees is dollar signs and you got somebody like Musk who's telling him, I know how to

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go in and you have this national debt that is so high.
Okay.
You need to do something about it.
It's not sustainable.
Now, it's not just must has been telling him that.
He's been getting all this stuff for months and months.
The national debt is not sustainable.
Something has to be done.
So they're trying to come up with a really quick slash and burn way to bring the national

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debt down.
Okay.
Well, it's not going to work.
This business with tariffs, this business with gutting, civil service, all that stuff.
They're thinking that it's a quick, surefire way to bring the national debt down.
But what they don't understand is that it's going to go up in other parts of the country.

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Okay.
So, yes, gutting federal workforce, but what happens when, you know, the bill comes to
you or credit card payments to you, it's going to crash the economy.
People are going to crash the economy eventually.
People won't be able to spend.
Ask any economists right now, any of them, you can watch them all.

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They're all saying the same thing.
Okay.
Recession, recession.
A global recession is coming.
Maybe even a depression.
Yeah, especially a depression is probably coming.
The Americans will go into a deep recession, most likely, and carry Canada with them.
Mexico, because of their new ties with China, may be able to evade a lot of it.

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They won't escape all of it, but they'll be able to evade some of it.
And also, don't forget that they have a large workforce.
Yes.
It's not going away.
They are reproducing themselves enough, I guess, to keep them coming.
So they can do the basic work that we won't be able to.

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The agricultural work, whatever it is that they maintain the infrastructure and all
of that.
We don't have the numbers.
They do.
No, they do.
And that's the whole thing.
And like you said, the big thing is, because the United States is so intertwined with the
developed world globally, if we crash, we're going to take half the world with us.

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Yeah.
But I see the BRICs are trying to...
They're nearing up.
They're bracing themselves.
They're bracing.
Yeah, they're bracing.
They're bracing themselves for this.
They know it's coming.
China only has...
They're down to like 15% of their trade is with the US.
The rest of it is with the developing world.
They're not worried particularly.

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As a matter of fact, I also heard that they're not going to reciprocate with tariffs because
it doesn't make sense.
Right.
They're not that much with us.
They export a lot, but they don't import that much.
So why bother with the tariffs?
Because it's going to let the rest of the world enjoy whatever they have.
They're not going to put tariffs.
Well, you think about it another way.

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If China decides that that's what they're going to do, which they may very well do that.
But let's say they do that and they make a big public spectacle of this decision, then
it gives them better standing in the world.
Makes them look like the better man.
Yep.
And in the United States look like fools.
Well, mediocre thinking.

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Right.
Right.
Well, again, yeah, it all goes down to that.
We might need some DEI up in there.
Who knows?
Who knows?
The big thing is, it's all getting stupid.
It's turning into a real clown show in Washington, DC, in particular, the White House.
And the worst part is we have a Congress that's not doing anything about it.

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They're all watching with their, you know, sitting on their hands, watching it all fall
down.
The Democrats are flapping their arms a little bit, but largely not doing anything about
it.
Agree.
And they're not resisting in a strong enough way.
No.
Bernie Sanders right now is making the rounds in the country, but he's only one guy.
Okay.

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And, you know, it's like I talked about earlier, you know, earlier today is that we need a lot
more Bernie Sanders running around, making a lot of noise.
Unfortunately, they're not there.
I think that a lot of people are scared that they'll be retaliated against.
Oh yeah, they're afraid of.
They're afraid of, they're afraid of musks as he threatened to do, primaring them and

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evaluating their jobs.
You're not supposed to have a permanent job as a congressman.
Okay.
Correct.
I agree with that too.
It's not being for a short term.
So what if you don't get reelected?
Do your very best while you're there.
And represent the people that you're supposed to represent.
You don't have to tour the party line.
My community needs this, this, this.

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I'm not going to sit here and let you take it from them.
That's right.
Quit thinking that you've got a permanent job.
You know, it shouldn't be that way.
You came from the private sector.
You go back to the private sector.
But while you're in the public sector, do your job.
If you can go back because I mean, the way the economy is going, so many of those corporations

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are, well, you know, the big thing about it here is we are just starting this road.
We're on.
We're just now getting started on this road and give it a couple of months.
Okay.
When all the unemployment figures start coming in, when things start happening up in Canada,

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that's provided Trump does these tariffs next week.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because you're going to see the price of oil and gas go through the roof here in the
United States.
If the tariffs on Canadian oil go through and all this other stuff.
And so once Americans figure out that, uh-oh, you know, then what?

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You know, maybe then the Democrats will get something going because, yeah, their constituents
are going to start pushing them, you know, get off your butts, you lazy SOBs.
Get out here and do something.
Right now, we don't have that yet.
So I don't know.
I don't know how it's going to go.
Truthfully.

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So, you know, as always, we talked about a whole lot of things.
You know, you Jennings being kind of a thing.
Truthfully, I think it's a possibility down the road.
But as American citizens, whatever that counts for these days.

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Um, I think we have bigger things to worry about at this point.
Yeah, I do.
Keeping yourself together.
Well, trying to destroy everything that we have.
Right.
I mean, it's like me trying to, we know, I talk about a lot of things.
You know, one of the things I'll tell you the supply chain that we used to enjoy here

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in the United States, it's already breaking down.
Okay.
It's already starting to break down.
I'll give you an example.
Go ahead.
I, you know, I said, I said earlier that I had a pipe burst, you know, at the end of
January.
Yeah.
Oh, part of my damage was to some hardwood flooring outside of this bathroom where the
water came pouring out.

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Right.
So maybe not real knowledgeable about the right company to call when it's all happened.
I mean, I got water on the floor.
I kind of went into panic mode, got on Google and, and found a local company to help me
help me clean up the water.
Turns out, according to my insurance company.
I wasn't supposed to do that.
I was supposed to call them and have them send somebody out.

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Oh, well, you know, you could have told me that, you know, but, you know, it was already
done.
But in the process of these guys mitigating my water damage, they tore up about 50 square
feet of my hardwood flooring.
The problem is my hardwood flooring was put in about 23 years ago.
So you can't replace it.
Very hard to find right now.

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Okay.
So we, me and my contractor actually, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
we, we, we, We had the contractor actually found what we thought was a match from Home
Depot, but we had ordered.
So about three weeks ago, I ordered it at his request.
He said, oh, this is what you need, is the color you need, so on, so forth.
So I said, okay, we ordered.
Home Depot was all more happy to place the order, set it up for me, yada yada.

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Yesterday I went to pick up something else.
I thought it was hardwood flooring.
Turned out to be something else I'd ordered.
While I was there, I asked him, hey, here's this order number for this
Harvard flooring.
What can you tell me?
Because the shipment has been delayed.
I keep getting these emails saying it's been delayed and they can't tell me why.
So she called somebody while I was there at the service desk.

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Turns out they lost the shipment.
What?
They lost it.
How do you lose a shipment?
Okay.
Exactly.
They lost it.
All right.
Don't know where it's at.
And then she, the person she was talking to put her on hold, called the vendor,
vendor was out of stock.
Didn't have any more.
Okay.
Yeah, exactly.

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Okay.
That's my, that's my reaction.
Now what?
Now what?
Yeah.
So I asked her, is there anything I can do?
So she gets on, you know, she goes back to talking to this person on the other end.
And the lady told her, no, just give him a refund.
We can't help you. Exactly.
I'm like, I'm shocked.
Three weeks out and you're still not done.

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Right.
So I came back home empty handed, trying to figure out what to do.
And there was another internet company that I contacted.
I tried to find out if they had something.
They didn't have the right color.
And then I don't think it was an exact match either.
So I went back on the Home Depot website and their website still says that I

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should be able to order this material I need, the color and size.
That's yeah.
Okay.
Well, I didn't place another order obviously.
But what I did was I ordered a couple of samples.
I get smarter at the time.
I ordered two samples, two different colors, because I'm not real sure what I'm
going to get.
Figured if I get these two that according to the, you know, the webpage, they

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look really, really close to mine.
I get both of them here, then I can make it, you know, then I can make a
determination or it's this one or it's this one.
Right.
I told my wife this morning at breakfast, I said, I'm going to get smart
this time.
Instead of getting on their website, I'm going to go back to the store and I'm
going to say, Hey, this is a sample I got from your website, right?

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From your vendor.
This is the color I need.
Can you get this for me?
Right.
We'll see how that works out.
Now the problem is with that, that puts my project out another three weeks.
Yeah.
At a minimum.
So now I've got a, I've got a floor right behind me here that's missing.

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You know, it's, it's tore up down to the concrete.
Yeah.
Got rugs over it.
I can't do anything about it.
And I'm waiting for these guys to.
So you wouldn't consider, I'm just asking, but you wouldn't consider just using
some tile?
Well, I'd have to tear up the whole house.
I can't because what it is, it's a hallway.

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Okay.
Because it's a hallway.
I can't just replace just part of that floor.
I feel what you're saying.
You know, where they tore it up in order for me to do that.
Like I told my wife last night, you know, we were discussing this whole
material issue.
I said, the only other option I would have would be to hire a company, which the
insurance wouldn't pay for.

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Every bit of wood floor that I've got across the house.
Yeah.
With something else that I can't get.
And, you know, we're talking probably five, six, $7,000.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At least.
So I'm not really do that.
You know, that part of my home insurance company, you know, kind of.

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Messed around and and.
I want to say it did something kind of shady and mirrors back the claim
money that I thought I was going to get because of their deductible system,
which I didn't really understand.
And they weren't real keen on explaining to me until I asked detailed
questions.
Yeah.
You know, it's always.

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They found a flash.
They're not going to.
You're not going to.
That's exactly what happened.
They, they made a decision to do it.
And they're going to do it.
And they're not going to, you know, that's exactly what happened.
They, they made out, they save money and I'm, you know, I'm in the bag for a few
thousand dollars.
You know, I'm like, oh, okay.

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Obviously we're not going to do that again.
You know, but meanwhile I'm stuck.
I'm stuck.
So it goes back to how things are here in the United States.
Supply chains are drying up.
Yeah.
And these corporations are doing everything they can to break us over the
calls anyway they can.
And it's only going to continue to get worse.

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Well, I know that a couple of the companies I work for back in the day,
they wanted to implement a just in time delivery of materials that they needed
for whatever projects.
But because we were in the Caribbean and supply chains were sketchy, they could
never fully get away from having a warehouse with a lot of stuff backed up.

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Yeah.
Because it needed to be resilient as opposed to be responsive if you want to
look at it that way.
Right.
And then when things went bad in terms of prices going crazy and prices, the foreign
exchange was, was and is a little bit unstable.
They were glad to have stuff backed up.
Yeah.
One or two years backed up.

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So maybe that's going to happen to the US.
You know, we might go back to having John.
Well, it's already happening.
It's already happening.
I was reading some news stories last year.
How most companies in the United States right now, because Trump last year was
running around telling everybody, I'm going to tear up everybody.
Yeah.
So you might as well stop.
They took it to heart and they've been stocking up.

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Yeah.
That makes sense, right?
You know, well, we're stocking up with what they can, you know, that's, that's part of
the, you know, they're having trouble with things.
I was watching another one of my YouTube podcasts this morning and Canada right
now, if the tariffs go into place next week, they're going to lock up all of the

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material going back and forth for the car manufacturers.
Yeah.
The American car companies are going to get into a world of hurt if Canada decides to
tear up that stuff in reciprocal tariffs for that.
So, you know, it's going to be a hot mess.
So I'm glad I got my wife a new car last year.
But here's the thing in terms of parts, in terms of.

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Oh yeah, you could forget about it.
That's where the challenges come in.
Uh-huh.
Right.
I'm like in the back, back in the Caribbean, one of the things that supply chains don't,
people don't normally think about would be like your public services.
So let's say your water purification plant runs out of some kind of filter
and it has to come from somewhere.

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Yeah.
You're not going to get water.
Right.
So what people do is they get giant tanks and they have a pump.
And they would collect eight, 900, a thousand gallons of water every day to have it as a
mock-up continuously.
Yeah.
Things like that.
So that, that may start happening here because if the supply chains are messed up,

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you won't be able to rebuild or repair quickly.
That's right.
That's right.
The maintenance and maintenance service.
That's right.
You know, the big thing is, and this is something that Jessica Walford preaches a lot in her articles,
you need to be lower, you need to learn to be more self-sufficient here going in the near future.
Because if don't depend on the government to be there to bail you out if you need something,

(01:31:08):
like you were just talking about things like services, they're going to start collapsing
if things don't change soon.
So the idea of electricity, clean water, and all those kind of basic things that we
take for granted, they may not be available if things keep going the way they are.
At least not available continuously as your custom.
Right.
Right.
If you're not flexible enough to work around that, you're in trouble.

(01:31:30):
That's right.
Well, I mean, I saw a little bit of that here where I live.
Last winter, we had a water filtration plant downtown Richmond, Virginia that had a freeze up.
And until they got it fixed, everybody was on a boil of water noses, you know, for almost a week.
Yeah.
You're going to see that a lot more frequently.

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You'll see that a lot more frequently.
The trouble is, you may not know, because the reporting and monitoring agencies are defunded.
Right.
The fear isn't there.
Right.
That's right.
You see, so you might be just going about your business and what does it mean?
Well, I mean, the only way we found out about it, and I live in a different county than the one that
was supposedly affected, but they did have a warning out for even my county, even though they said that

(01:32:17):
we didn't have an issue.
And my wife noticed that something wasn't quite right.
And of course, one of her friends told her about this issue.
She got passed on through the, you know, Chinese WeChat app on her phone that this was a thing going on.
So I looked it up.
So my county, although wasn't affected according to the local government, we went automatically,

(01:32:43):
my wife and I automatically went, got bottled water and stuff because we had this happen to us
when we lived in Texas and they didn't tell us about it and we didn't find out till we got sick.
Well, she's told me right away when she heard this notice.
I'm not taking that chance again.
We're going to go get water.
We're going to take care of ourselves.
So again, you know, it goes back to, yeah, you can't rely on the government to tell you anything.

(01:33:06):
So it is that we don't have a government to tell us anything.
Why are we electing these people, right?
Yeah.
What is the function there?
Right now they're sold out to the billionaires and they're just doing what they need to do to
align the pockets.
Well, that's just that's what's happening.
See, in Trump keeps, like I said, Trump keeps kicking everything back to the states
to take care of their own people.

(01:33:26):
He doesn't want to be involved in the day to day stuff of American citizens.
And the states, the states are going crazy because this, a lot of them are just mental.
Yes.
Yes.
Yep.
It's a sad situation.
I came to be in a developed country, but I'm seeing so many signs that we're unraveling.
It makes me concerned.

(01:33:48):
We are.
It bothers me.
Well, the thing about it is we are unraveling slowly, but we aren't.
Okay.
And the only reason it's going slowly is because we're so big.
Okay.
And I'm not talking about square, square miles, but as an economy, we are so big,
it's going to take a while for it to all unravel.

(01:34:08):
But as you can see, it's slowly starting to.
Okay.
You can see it.
We've got a lot of frayed edges right now and they're getting worse.
And I don't see Trump doing anything about it.
He's not interested, as you say.
I don't think he's interested in that.
Nope.
He's not interested.
Nope.
So, you know, goes back to what Jessica is telling everybody, take care of yourself because nobody else will.

(01:34:33):
What a thing.
What a thing, my friend.
What a thing.
Yeah.
It goes back to that.
Yeah.
I mean, I, you know, I've been to enough survival schools.
I can handle pretty much anything, but somebody like you.
Yeah.
I don't see that happening.
I, not only that, I have a lot of.
I have a chronic illness, right?
I got a couple hot stents in place.
If I don't have continuous access to medicine, I'm done.

(01:34:55):
That's right.
That's right.
So, it is not possible for me to survive in a society that's not well ordered.
Well, seeing that, back to what we first started out with.
Eugenics.
Eugenics.
That puts you in that category.
It does.
It literally does.
You know, you're on a, you know, you're on a permanently disabled list.
Yep.

(01:35:16):
And you, you know, you're not, you know, you can't be productive in that regard.
Well, you can be, as long as it's something you can do where you can work from home, for example.
Correct.
Correct.
Right.
But the problem is with certain states, they don't want you to work from home.
They want you to work on a factory floor and assembly line or some other kind of something.

(01:35:39):
Because that's their standard of what constitutes productive work.
Right.
States like Arkansas, Florida, Oklahoma.
Yeah.
Working remotely from home, you know, doing something from a home office now.
You know, sorry, you can't do that.
If you're disabled, you need to get out and get on.
If you can't stand on your, on your own two feet to get out of the way.

(01:36:02):
That's basically what it is.
That's basically get out of the way.
Get out of the way.
You're marginalized.
Yeah.
And you're going to have it.
I'm aware of it.
I'm very, very aware of it.
So that's why I look into these things because it's important to me.
I can see the machinations, how they're arranging the society in ways that are going to disadvantage

(01:36:23):
people like me.
And then you start asking questions like, how long can we stay in a society that is
stacked against us?
Right.
That's the question.
That's the million dollar question for me.
Sure.
Well, the other question is where are you going to go?
Well, the, the, I get insurance through the Affordable Care Act, ACA, Obama Care.

(01:36:48):
Right.
And if they take that away, I will definitely have to pack up because I need my medicine.
I need my regular visits and all that.
Right.
I can't find, I can, I'm still allowed to work in the Caribbean.
I'm not at the age where I can retire just yet.

(01:37:08):
Right.
So I can go back, I can go back to work.
It's not hard for me to go back to work, you know?
So I can get healthcare that way.
I'd rather not.
Well, yeah, sure.
Because I prefer to be at home and do my little thing.
I'm not bothering anyone and I spend my pension in the, in the economy.
So I'm not taking anything from anyone.
Right.
But I need the healthcare.

(01:37:29):
Right.
Right.
And as we get older, we've all needed more and more.
Sure.
Sure.
But I mean, I was scared last, I was scared a couple of weeks ago when I heard that they were
planning on doing a bunch of defunding of the Veterans Administration.
And I'm like, uh-oh.
And then the VA, the new VA secretary come out and said, no, we managed to stop it.
I'm like, okay, but you can bet I'm keeping an eye on that.

(01:37:52):
Yeah, because yeah, the VA is my primary healthcare.
And then my, my, my understanding, it could be wrong, but they gave all these tax cuts to the
very wealthy people in 2017 and they're expiring in 2025.
And he wants to bring them back.
If he wants to bring them back, the problem is he needs the money to run the country.

(01:38:14):
If he's not getting it from taxes, he's going to take it from services.
Yeah.
Right.
So he's cutting everybody's jobs and everything else.
So he's taking it away from them.
Yep.
And the insult to me, the big insult is that the taxes that should have come from the wealthy,
he is allowing them to buy treasuries in an effect low on the money to the US government.

(01:38:40):
That's right.
And give it back to them at interest.
Yep.
So they're making money out of taxes that should have gone to the public to keep the society together.
That's right.
It's, it's, it's awful.
It is. Yeah. And it's, it's insane.
But yeah, they're getting away with it.
They're getting away with it.
Right.
Right.
And we vote for that.

(01:39:00):
Well, that's the problem is that nobody knew they were voting for that.
See, they were voting, they were voting for their cold hero, Donald Trump.
They didn't understand what the, what kind of baggage he was bringing with them.
And they don't understand.
See, you know, most basic Americans, the average Americans,

(01:39:21):
they don't understand these economics.
Okay.
Their version of economics is I get a paycheck every week.
I get to go to the grocery store.
I can buy a gas from my car.
I get to put my kids in school and pay for my lifestyle.
That's my economics.
They don't care about anything else outside of that.
Okay.

(01:39:41):
The world hasn't hit them yet, but when it does, then bad things are going to start happening.
Okay.
Yeah.
And unfortunately, I don't, I'm watching this.
I'm more worried about that than anything else.
You know, this whole business, this private group of investors,
you know, BlackRock, the security company being one of them, sent off this, you know,

(01:40:06):
official letter to the White House saying that, Hey, we can put together a large
corporate group of entities for you and we can take care of your immigration problem.
No problem.
I saw that.
Yeah.
I saw that.
Now the letter itself hasn't gone anywhere.
They don't know whether Trump's read it and ignored it or he hasn't seen it yet, whatever.

(01:40:30):
But it's scary because now they're all.
And yeah, because the, like if you saw that meeting in Idaho where that woman was dragged
out of the meeting, she was a doctor, if I remember correctly, and she was talking about
problems in her community.
The people that dragged her out were not government cops or sheriff's department or
anything. They were private security.

(01:40:51):
That's right.
And it's exactly those kinds of people that you're talking about.
They drop a black bag over your head and take you to a black side somewhere that nobody sees
you again for six months.
But when you come out, you're not the same.
That's right.
Right.
So.
If they see you at all.
If they see you at all, right?
Right.
Right.
Next thing you're on a long fight to go on town a movie and that's the end of you.

(01:41:14):
Or your body's in a ditch somewhere covered in a mass grave.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And the thing is, people don't understand.
You know, back in the 20th century, we had the brown shirts in Nazi Germany.
We had the Irish black and tans and other groups like them that ran around and did just exactly

(01:41:35):
what we're talking about.
And these guys want to bring that back.
Yeah.
And I mean, there are people out here that's going to, that will resist.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
There are people here that won't take it.
Like I saw some of those Nazis went to a black community.
It was in the last couple of weeks and they got attacked by the black community and the

(01:41:58):
black community ran them out of there.
Sure.
They're not going to accept that.
No.
If you go into some parts of Europe, for example, I understand that there are Muslim
communities where the cops are afraid to go into.
Sure.
Because the cops get attacked.
Yeah.
Right.
In Jamaica, I remember that there was a drug lord or a drug kingpin.

(01:42:21):
What he did, he funded the community with the drug money.
So he was buying friends then.
He would send people to school and make sure everybody had food and whatever,
because that was where he lived.
When the cops came looking for him, they couldn't find him.
Yeah.
And they attacked the cops.
Yeah.
Because that was their guy.
Sure.
Right.

(01:42:41):
So if you start looking at it from a long view, in the early days, before we had, before we
followed the law, let's just say the law was an arbitrary construct.
We would have followed the village chiefs.
We would have followed the leaders.
Then we would have maybe our kings.
And then eventually, when we became so big, we let the kings go and we followed the law.

(01:43:05):
So it's an arbitrary thing that we give allegiance to the Constitution.
It's not a person.
Right.
But we're rolling that back.
Now we're trying to be giving allegiance to Trump.
Well, the law isn't important as much anymore.
A lot of people are equating this to the old style medieval feudalism.
Yeah.
And the law isn't as important anymore because Trump can say, I'm not doing that.

(01:43:25):
Let's do something else.
Well, that's one of the things that somebody was saying here a couple of weeks ago,
somebody was saying that they're waiting for Trump to come right out in public,
in full view of the world and tell the courts in the United States, I'm not going to do that
and you can't touch me.
They're waiting.

(01:43:47):
Everybody's waiting for that to happen.
Now, to be honest with you, I could see that coming.
I can see that coming.
I can see that coming.
And then what?
Well, yeah, so there's no following the rule of law anymore.
And that's an interesting thing because what you're telling me in effect is that

(01:44:08):
we're going back to local leadership and we're not trying to have a cohesive society anymore.
This group is going to do what they need to do.
This group is going to do what they need to do.
It may come back to this state is doing something different from that state.
Well, that's the whole thing.
If the federal government falls apart and the states realize that the fed is a completely

(01:44:30):
useless entity, then they want I understand of the Constitution they have they have within
constitutional law the ability to recall their congressional representatives back to their
states and the states do have the right to leave the union, but they have to petition

(01:44:55):
the government to do that.
Okay.
Okay, that is written into the Constitution that the states have the authority to do that.
But again, it has to be done a referendum within the state and it has to be petitioned
and so on so forth.
I mean, obviously there's hoops that have to be jumped through in order to make it happen,
but it is doable.

(01:45:16):
Wow.
It is doable.
Okay.
I was reading something about this here three or four months ago.
Well, the big deal with the Civil War back in the 1860s was that the oligarchs in the
South decided to secede from the union and Lincoln was bound determined that they weren't

(01:45:39):
going to do that because he was afraid that there would be a permanent border between
the North and the South and he knew that there would be war, basically a consistent war.
So he was bound determined that he wasn't going to let that happen.
And so he invaded the Confederacy and that's really what it was.

(01:46:03):
Now, granted, the Confederate army started it by the first battle of Bull Run,
but the area around Northern Virginia was kind of a gray area anyway.
Okay.
Virginia was a Confederate state, yet Washington, DC was union.
Okay.

(01:46:24):
So the district of Columbia belonged to the blue and Virginia itself was under the new
Confederacy.
So again, it was kind of like one of those, you could look at it two ways.
The Confederate army invaded the federal government or the army of Virginia was defending

(01:46:52):
their sovereign territory.
Here's how you look at it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of historians will tell you it was one way, one way or the other.
But that's how that was.
Lincoln decided that now you guys, I'm not going to let you get away with it because
you're going to destroy the country.
Okay.
And they couldn't, and the oligarchs running the Northern industrial base couldn't have

(01:47:17):
that.
Great.
They couldn't have that.
So the idea was go to war, bring these idiots under heel, and we're going to take over everything.
And that's, you know, that's what reconstruction was after the shooting was over with, was the
North bringing the Southern oligarchs under heel saying, okay, we beat you.
Now we're going to beat you even more here in the next few years to make sure that you

(01:47:41):
understand that we're your boss.
Right.
And that's how that worked out.
A lot of people don't understand that that's what the history books don't tell you.
Okay.
Lincoln, Lincoln was a racist.
He tried to deport the black people to Africa.
That didn't work out too good for him.

(01:48:01):
So, you know, he just kind of, he said, okay, you're no longer slaves, but we're not going
to take care of you either.
Okay.
Right.
You know, we're going to make sure you're not in chains anymore.
But what happens to you is not up to us.
We don't care.
We don't care.
Have a nice life.
You know, and that was the end of that.
But yeah, no, Lincoln was in our notorious races.

(01:48:22):
But again, that's, it's ancient history.
Point is, states have the right to do pretty much whatever they want.
If I've been wondering, like, for example, with me and what Trump's saying that he's not
going to send federal funds that way.
Yeah.
I'm thinking a lot of the blue states send money to the red states.

(01:48:42):
They basically fund the red states because there's a lot more revenue coming from the
blue states.
Okay.
I'm wondering if they decided among themselves to restrict that flow of money to the federal
government.
They could do that.
They could find some plan that we need to fund this, we need to fund that or whatever.
And when they finally come down to giving money to the states is much, much diminished.

(01:49:07):
Yeah.
Back to the issue.
There's been a lot of people writing about that last couple of years.
Really?
Okay.
Yeah.
So there's a way to do that as well?
There is a way to do that.
Absolutely.
It goes back to the states have the ability to maintain their own infrastructure.
Right.
Right. Now, yes, a portion of what they, you know, income they create within the state gets

(01:49:32):
sent off to the federal government for the federal government to distribute it and help
all the other 50 states.
Right.
Okay.
Now, if the states decide we don't want to do that anymore, then yes, it would cause trouble.
But what, as you say, let's say for instance, all the blue states in New England gathered up and

(01:49:52):
said, Hey, we're done here.
Okay.
I'm not doing this anymore.
They could, they could in effect blockade the federal government until Washington, DC,
you know, stick it, we're not giving you any more money because you're using that for things that
we don't, you know, that we don't believe in.
Right.
They could do that.
Okay.

(01:50:13):
Now would it was anybody else but Trump, I'd say maybe, but you know what Trump's going to do?
He's going to send federal troops to bring the insurrectionists in line.
You know, that's going to happen.
So then what?
Then you got a civil war.
Then you got a civil war.

(01:50:34):
So, you know, I, I'm hoping it never comes to that.
I'm right there with you, my friend.
I don't want to live through one of those.
Nope.
No, you don't want to trust me.
I don't want to.
I know.
I've seen them and they're, they're not pretty.
No.
No, there's nothing that we will have access to.
It's going to be a mess.
Well, I mean, we're, we don't need the civil war.

(01:50:55):
We're already losing everything.
You know, so I'm going to let you go.
No trouble at all, my friend.
This will come out next Wednesday.
Yeah, sure.
I'm happy to have these chats with you.
I enjoy, I enjoy getting your perspective.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it's good because I like yours too.

(01:51:15):
You're, you're, you're, you're, you have a different way of thinking about things a lot of times.
And that's good.
It comes from being an immigrant.
Yeah.
And that's actually, that's actually a good thing.
So I will let you go.
I appreciate you.
Okay.
Anytime.
Anytime.
And we'll, we'll set up to do something here down the road.

(01:51:37):
Sure.
You just let me know what, let me know what you want to talk about so I can do some research.
All right.
Very good.
All right.
Thanks.
All right, my friend.
You're taking easy.
Bye.
Talk to you soon.
So as to say, another long, interesting conversation.
We talked about a lot of things and everything, everything we talk about is always is the same

(01:52:01):
things that you, the average Americans are all worried about pretty much, you know, you should
be, let's put it that way.
Okay.
Things that you should be worried about.
These are the things that keep us up at night.
So I'm going to let you go.
I appreciate you.
I thank you for listening to the show today.

(01:52:22):
I hope you enjoyed it.
Please like and subscribe and reply here.
If you feel like it, if there's anything in this that resonates with you, you know, let us know.
You know, I always try to reply to everything.
And, you know, with that, I'm going to take off here.

(01:52:43):
So as I say goodbye, you know, I hope that with this, you know, on Irish Blessing,
may we finally find the peace and contentment we seek despite the whirlwinds of chaos brewing
all around us slung off well.

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