December 8, 2025 • 19 mins
In this solo episode, Jazzmyn breaks down the cultural moment surrounding Mel Robbins’ recent op-ed and Pantone’s Color of the Year announcement—and uses both as a powerful entry point into a larger conversation about authority, creative autonomy, and visibility.
If you’ve ever wondered why certain voices dominate the conversation (even when their takes fall flat), or why trend-driven branding feels increasingly hollow, this episode invites you back into your own power.
Jazzmyn explores:
- Why creators keep centering people and institutions that uphold the status quo
- How to decenter authority without slipping into cynicism
- What the Pantone “Cloud Dancer” discourse reveals about conformity vs. creative courage
- The real reason Mel Robbins’ takes feel grating—and what it teaches us about visibility
- How to build a brand that leads with nuance, vibrancy, and originality
- Why your creative orbit expands the moment you stop waiting for industry validation
This episode is a call to reclaim your voice, challenge who you grant influence to, and create from a place of bold self-trust—not passive consumption.
If you’re ready to show up louder, brighter, and more unapologetically aligned in 2026, this conversation is your permission slip.
Follow Jazzmyn on Instagram @healingwithjazzmyn for updates, behind-the-scenes insights, and upcoming announcements.
Visibility is a long game—let’s play it on our own terms.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:06):
Are you sitting with thousands of hours of B-roll
content and telling yourself,I'll start posting tomorrow?
Are you in your head worriedabout your friends and family
thinking your cringe forchoosing to be visible?
Are you chasing trends insteadof building influence?
Welcome to the VisibilityStandard where the visionaries
of today are changing the rolesof their industries and letting
(00:27):
their voice be heard.
I'm your host, Jasmine, and weare setting the standard.
Mel Robbins and Pantone reallytook to the scene this week in
the creator space.
I'm gonna talk about it here.
Hi, I'm Jasmine, your host ofthe Visibility Standard, where
(00:48):
visibility is the standard.
This is the space for creatives,wellness entrepreneurs, founders
to find their voice, to buildauthentic brands, and build
strategic toolkits that allowthem to show up boldly and
proudly.
Like I said, we're gonna talkabout what's been going on in
the creator space.
(01:08):
I've been loving using my soloepisodes to respond to what is
going on out there and linkingit back to visibility, strategy,
authentic branding, all of thosethings that we need to be
visible.
To start the week, we had MelRobbins op-ed piece.
She co-authored Life's Too Shortto Argue with Your Family, and
(01:31):
Pantone dropped its color of theyear for 2026 Cloud Dancer.
My opinion on both are neutral.
As a creator, and I think theoverarching message of this
episode today is I am becomingvery specific about who I give
(01:54):
authority to.
(02:44):
So I'm not gonna sit here andcomment on it.
What I am going to comment onthough is how willing we are to
give our authority to expertsthat have already proven they
uphold the status quo.
When we think about buildingauthentic brands, when we think
(03:05):
about building legacies beyondwhat is already in front of us,
our leaders need to look verydifferent.
Our leaders need to be embodyingthat they are really forging a
different path forward.
Mel Robbins said exactly what wethought she would say.
(03:29):
What we thought she would say.
Her content unanimously has beenfairly surface-level psych pop
insights.
She has really good marketing,she's willing to be visible,
she's willing to be loud aboutthe things that she believes
(03:50):
have benefited her healing.
Again, benefited her healing.
But we are looking for her tospeak on nuances, on
experiences, on education thatshe doesn't have.
So when I don't understand whywe're shocked that she's
(04:12):
offering insight when she'snever really, she has never
really reflected, embodied,professed that she understands
more nuanced, complicateddynamics or experiences, and she
(04:34):
doesn't really talk about them.
She talks about what has workedfor her, and then she tries to
say, Well, if this worked forme, it should definitely work
for you too.
I fucking hope.
Like fingers crossed, that itworks for you.
The only difference from her anda licensed professional is that
she is visible.
(04:55):
She chooses to be as audaciousand loud about what she believes
will benefit your mental healthregardless of the consequences,
because she is not someone thatsits across from people where
what she says has real lifeconsequences.
(05:19):
So I don't understand why we'reholding her to that standard.
Let her be, let her be a psychpop speaker, orator, podcast
host.
Let her continue to market, andthen what you can do is use your
(05:41):
voice.
What you can do is to build abrand, build a platform that
also contributes to theconversation.
What you can do is leverage thecredibility that you already
have, leverage the skill setthat you already have, and show
(06:03):
the fuck up.
Like, well, why is everyonegiving so much weight to what
Mel Robbins is saying?
Why, like, why is she speakingon these things?
She's speaking on these things,and people are listening because
(06:25):
she's willing to share them.
She's got the balls enough toshare it publicly, and it's up
to us to filter in thatconversation, to make a dent in
what she's spewing, and to bebold about offering nuanced,
(06:46):
complicated takes.
My tagline, if you've seen in mysocial media bios, is making
nuance hot again because we'velost it.
We have so deeply lost the plot,and it's reflected in our
responses to people on socialmedia.
It is reflected in how we engagewith content that we don't like
(07:12):
on social media.
We are very quick to react, toleave a comment that might feel
good in the moment, but may notreflect a more nuanced, balanced
response.
Mel Robbins has this ability toshare a take and to irritate the
(07:35):
fuck out of people.
That is something I'm curiousabout.
What is it about what she issaying that is so frustrating
that it dysregulates every partof who you are?
Where you can't just say, okay,this doesn't apply to me.
I'm not going to feed it more.
I'm not going to give it moreenergy.
(07:58):
I am going to consume, I'm goingto uplift creators and people
who are sharing the message, whohave the experience and who are
willing to do the work to offernuanced, complicated takes on
all things life andrelationships.
(08:19):
In my mind, there is a simplesolution to decentering her.
It may be a 10-step process, butif you do not want her front and
center, stop making her frontand center in the dialogue.
And that doesn't go for justher.
That goes for any creator thatyou don't agree with.
(08:41):
That goes for any content thatyou find really misses the mark
for what you're interested inconsuming.
You can decenter it.
Part of what has allowed me tomaintain the creative orbit that
I have that has allowed me toexpand my way of thinking,
(09:03):
creating, how I choose to shareonline, that is largely
contributed to the creators Ichoose to follow.
The creators that I choose toengage with.
And even as it relates to myfriendships, being able to have
the conversations that bothencourage me and challenge me,
(09:24):
we can decenter her at any time,or any creator at any given time
that we find is not progressingcommentary or does not align
with our values or the messagingthat we want to propel forward.
But saying her name a thousandtimes online, click-through rate
(09:49):
just went up 5,000.
Her views just went up amillion.
Pantone, similar vibe.
Cloud Dancer has been named thecolor of the year for 2026.
(10:14):
It's a shade of white for folkswho have stayed away from the
discourse or have no clue whatI'm talking about.
I genuinely thought people weremisspelling pantine.
And I was so confused.
And I went to threads and I waslike, okay, what the fuck is
Pantone?
(10:35):
And I had people graciously tellme what it was, and so I looked
into it.
I read it.
We had the Sydney Sweeney, goodjeans, and now we've got Pantone
saying white or cloud dancer.
Sorry, cloud dancer is the colorof 2026.
(10:55):
Now I've seen so much differentdiscourse from perspectives from
artists, perspectives fromsocial justice commentators, uh
ranging from great, we are againcentering whiteness, to cloud
dancer embodies a blank canvasto dream bigger, to dream beyond
(11:22):
what is in front of you.
Okay.
When I looked at that color, thefirst word that came up for me
was conformity.
It elicited this feeling that ifwe all just stay pretty neutral,
(11:44):
stay calm, stay collected, thatwe will elicit this feeling of
starting over, starting anew.
This conforming color scheme hasbeen in the limelight for the
(12:05):
last five, ten years.
We've moved into the beige tothe neutral color schemes.
You see it on your static posts,you see it in people's house
designing, minimalist color,minimalist expression.
We've already leaned in to that.
(12:30):
I understand both perspectives,but Pantone isn't offering a new
perspective at all.
They are simply reinforcing thevery boring layout that already
exists.
Okay, it's a blank canvas.
(12:51):
Unfortunately, people believethat being a blank canvas is how
they are palatable.
People believe that having thisblank space or having this
neutrality is how they are meantto survive in the world.
When is something going toremind us that vibrancy, that
(13:12):
color, that brightness is okay?
That is one of the things that Ireally love about Suzanne
Lambert's marketing.
She has stayed true to thepolitical Barbie, offering hot
takes, offering bold, authenticconversations in the political
(13:35):
space, and she always rocks thehot pink.
She hasn't conformed into thetan suit.
She hasn't gotten the black andnavy blue look with the loafers.
I saw her Spotify rapped post.
It was like a lot of hip-hop,rap music, and she was like,
(13:55):
sorry, I don't have the greasyAbrams, the sad girl era reeking
my Spotify Rop.
And honestly, that was so realof her.
Honestly, more of us can take apage from her playbook.
When we allow ourselves toengage fully in our creative
(14:20):
process to step away from whatfeels safe, what feels
comfortable?
That's where the magic happens.
And I want to challenge whereyou are giving authority to.
(14:48):
Okay.
Seeing that has actually onlyembraced my desire to really
revamp the static post.
I've been talking about it alittle bit on a lot of different
episodes of how kind of blankslate my static posts feel.
(15:08):
Seeing that has only encouragedme to use as much color and as
much vibrancy and as much joy asI can communicate through my
static posts.
Because why not?
Right?
Why not?
(15:29):
Because when we dare to beourselves, when we dare to allow
ourselves to go against theindustry's standards or what it
dictates to believe, dictates tobe in trend in style, that's
where we find our authenticity.
That's where we find our voice.
(15:51):
That's where our alignedclients, our aligned audience,
aligned opportunities.
That's when those things willfind us.
When we allow ourselves to stepaway from what other people are
doing, when we allow ourselvesto imagine ourselves as
something braver, bolder, moreforward-thinking.
(16:16):
That's where the good stuffcomes in.
I'm telling you.
But we have to stop centeringthese platforms and people that
have already shown us they are apart of the status quo.
They've already shown it to us.
Being shocked that the color redis red is wild to me.
(16:38):
And something to consider.
Why are we expecting red to bepurple?
Why are we expecting red to bewhite?
It already showed it's red.
I think rather than looking forpeople to change with the times,
we start centering businessesand people and missions that are
(17:06):
already doing the work, that arealready saying, you know what,
fuck this.
I'm building somethingdifferent, and my people are
gonna find me, and that'senough.
They're not folding, they're notcaving, they're waiting their
time.
They're doing it right the firsttime, and that's a long game.
(17:27):
That's a long game invisibility.
I made a post over on LinkedInabout visibility being a test of
grit, of being misunderstood, ofbeing of allowing other people
to perceive you and make choicesbased on what you share to
(17:48):
create an opinion of you, andI'm still flexing that muscle,
and I think Threads has allowedme to do that best in
podcasting, and I only hope tocontinue translating that on my
more short form platforms.
We have to be willing topractice what it is we're trying
(18:11):
to reject.
That's my two cents oneverything.
I would love to hear yourthoughts.
I have some really excitingthings in the works that I'm
excited to announce and share asthey continue to evolve.
You definitely want to follow meover on Instagram at Healing
with Jasmine.
(18:32):
That's where most of the updateswill always live.
I hope you are using the end ofthis year to reflect on your own
legacy.
I hope you're using the end ofthis year to think about all the
ways the universe has shown upand really shown out for you
this year, processing thoselevels of gratitude, and also
(18:56):
thinking about how you want tocrush it in 2026.
I do have a New Year'sAspirations episode coming at
the end of this year.
It is heartfelt, it is real, itis only the second time I've
cried on my own show as thehost, so I'm excited for you all
to hear it, but you know whereto find me, and I'll see you on
(19:20):
Friday.
Are you sitting with thousands of hours of B-roll
content and telling yourself,I'll start posting tomorrow?
Are you in your head worriedabout your friends and family
thinking your cringe forchoosing to be visible?
Are you chasing trends insteadof building influence?
Welcome to the VisibilityStandard where the visionaries
of today are changing the rolesof their industries and letting
(00:27):
their voice be heard.
I'm your host, Jasmine, and weare setting the standard.
Mel Robbins and Pantone reallytook to the scene this week in
the creator space.
I'm gonna talk about it here.
Hi, I'm Jasmine, your host ofthe Visibility Standard, where
(00:48):
visibility is the standard.
This is the space for creatives,wellness entrepreneurs, founders
to find their voice, to buildauthentic brands, and build
strategic toolkits that allowthem to show up boldly and
proudly.
Like I said, we're gonna talkabout what's been going on in
the creator space.
(01:08):
I've been loving using my soloepisodes to respond to what is
going on out there and linkingit back to visibility, strategy,
authentic branding, all of thosethings that we need to be
visible.
To start the week, we had MelRobbins op-ed piece.
She co-authored Life's Too Shortto Argue with Your Family, and
(01:31):
Pantone dropped its color of theyear for 2026 Cloud Dancer.
My opinion on both are neutral.
As a creator, and I think theoverarching message of this
episode today is I am becomingvery specific about who I give
(01:54):
authority to.
(02:44):
So I'm not gonna sit here andcomment on it.
What I am going to comment onthough is how willing we are to
give our authority to expertsthat have already proven they
uphold the status quo.
When we think about buildingauthentic brands, when we think
(03:05):
about building legacies beyondwhat is already in front of us,
our leaders need to look verydifferent.
Our leaders need to be embodyingthat they are really forging a
different path forward.
Mel Robbins said exactly what wethought she would say.
(03:29):
What we thought she would say.
Her content unanimously has beenfairly surface-level psych pop
insights.
She has really good marketing,she's willing to be visible,
she's willing to be loud aboutthe things that she believes
(03:50):
have benefited her healing.
Again, benefited her healing.
But we are looking for her tospeak on nuances, on
experiences, on education thatshe doesn't have.
So when I don't understand whywe're shocked that she's
(04:12):
offering insight when she'snever really, she has never
really reflected, embodied,professed that she understands
more nuanced, complicateddynamics or experiences, and she
(04:34):
doesn't really talk about them.
She talks about what has workedfor her, and then she tries to
say, Well, if this worked forme, it should definitely work
for you too.
I fucking hope.
Like fingers crossed, that itworks for you.
The only difference from her anda licensed professional is that
she is visible.
(04:55):
She chooses to be as audaciousand loud about what she believes
will benefit your mental healthregardless of the consequences,
because she is not someone thatsits across from people where
what she says has real lifeconsequences.
(05:19):
So I don't understand why we'reholding her to that standard.
Let her be, let her be a psychpop speaker, orator, podcast
host.
Let her continue to market, andthen what you can do is use your
(05:41):
voice.
What you can do is to build abrand, build a platform that
also contributes to theconversation.
What you can do is leverage thecredibility that you already
have, leverage the skill setthat you already have, and show
(06:03):
the fuck up.
Like, well, why is everyonegiving so much weight to what
Mel Robbins is saying?
Why, like, why is she speakingon these things?
She's speaking on these things,and people are listening because
(06:25):
she's willing to share them.
She's got the balls enough toshare it publicly, and it's up
to us to filter in thatconversation, to make a dent in
what she's spewing, and to bebold about offering nuanced,
(06:46):
complicated takes.
My tagline, if you've seen in mysocial media bios, is making
nuance hot again because we'velost it.
We have so deeply lost the plot,and it's reflected in our
responses to people on socialmedia.
It is reflected in how we engagewith content that we don't like
(07:12):
on social media.
We are very quick to react, toleave a comment that might feel
good in the moment, but may notreflect a more nuanced, balanced
response.
Mel Robbins has this ability toshare a take and to irritate the
(07:35):
fuck out of people.
That is something I'm curiousabout.
What is it about what she issaying that is so frustrating
that it dysregulates every partof who you are?
Where you can't just say, okay,this doesn't apply to me.
I'm not going to feed it more.
I'm not going to give it moreenergy.
(07:58):
I am going to consume, I'm goingto uplift creators and people
who are sharing the message, whohave the experience and who are
willing to do the work to offernuanced, complicated takes on
all things life andrelationships.
(08:19):
In my mind, there is a simplesolution to decentering her.
It may be a 10-step process, butif you do not want her front and
center, stop making her frontand center in the dialogue.
And that doesn't go for justher.
That goes for any creator thatyou don't agree with.
(08:41):
That goes for any content thatyou find really misses the mark
for what you're interested inconsuming.
You can decenter it.
Part of what has allowed me tomaintain the creative orbit that
I have that has allowed me toexpand my way of thinking,
(09:03):
creating, how I choose to shareonline, that is largely
contributed to the creators Ichoose to follow.
The creators that I choose toengage with.
And even as it relates to myfriendships, being able to have
the conversations that bothencourage me and challenge me,
(09:24):
we can decenter her at any time,or any creator at any given time
that we find is not progressingcommentary or does not align
with our values or the messagingthat we want to propel forward.
But saying her name a thousandtimes online, click-through rate
(09:49):
just went up 5,000.
Her views just went up amillion.
Pantone, similar vibe.
Cloud Dancer has been named thecolor of the year for 2026.
(10:14):
It's a shade of white for folkswho have stayed away from the
discourse or have no clue whatI'm talking about.
I genuinely thought people weremisspelling pantine.
And I was so confused.
And I went to threads and I waslike, okay, what the fuck is
Pantone?
(10:35):
And I had people graciously tellme what it was, and so I looked
into it.
I read it.
We had the Sydney Sweeney, goodjeans, and now we've got Pantone
saying white or cloud dancer.
Sorry, cloud dancer is the colorof 2026.
(10:55):
Now I've seen so much differentdiscourse from perspectives from
artists, perspectives fromsocial justice commentators, uh
ranging from great, we are againcentering whiteness, to cloud
dancer embodies a blank canvasto dream bigger, to dream beyond
(11:22):
what is in front of you.
Okay.
When I looked at that color, thefirst word that came up for me
was conformity.
It elicited this feeling that ifwe all just stay pretty neutral,
(11:44):
stay calm, stay collected, thatwe will elicit this feeling of
starting over, starting anew.
This conforming color scheme hasbeen in the limelight for the
(12:05):
last five, ten years.
We've moved into the beige tothe neutral color schemes.
You see it on your static posts,you see it in people's house
designing, minimalist color,minimalist expression.
We've already leaned in to that.
(12:30):
I understand both perspectives,but Pantone isn't offering a new
perspective at all.
They are simply reinforcing thevery boring layout that already
exists.
Okay, it's a blank canvas.
(12:51):
Unfortunately, people believethat being a blank canvas is how
they are palatable.
People believe that having thisblank space or having this
neutrality is how they are meantto survive in the world.
When is something going toremind us that vibrancy, that
(13:12):
color, that brightness is okay?
That is one of the things that Ireally love about Suzanne
Lambert's marketing.
She has stayed true to thepolitical Barbie, offering hot
takes, offering bold, authenticconversations in the political
(13:35):
space, and she always rocks thehot pink.
She hasn't conformed into thetan suit.
She hasn't gotten the black andnavy blue look with the loafers.
I saw her Spotify rapped post.
It was like a lot of hip-hop,rap music, and she was like,
(13:55):
sorry, I don't have the greasyAbrams, the sad girl era reeking
my Spotify Rop.
And honestly, that was so realof her.
Honestly, more of us can take apage from her playbook.
When we allow ourselves toengage fully in our creative
(14:20):
process to step away from whatfeels safe, what feels
comfortable?
That's where the magic happens.
And I want to challenge whereyou are giving authority to.
(14:48):
Okay.
Seeing that has actually onlyembraced my desire to really
revamp the static post.
I've been talking about it alittle bit on a lot of different
episodes of how kind of blankslate my static posts feel.
(15:08):
Seeing that has only encouragedme to use as much color and as
much vibrancy and as much joy asI can communicate through my
static posts.
Because why not?
Right?
Why not?
(15:29):
Because when we dare to beourselves, when we dare to allow
ourselves to go against theindustry's standards or what it
dictates to believe, dictates tobe in trend in style, that's
where we find our authenticity.
That's where we find our voice.
(15:51):
That's where our alignedclients, our aligned audience,
aligned opportunities.
That's when those things willfind us.
When we allow ourselves to stepaway from what other people are
doing, when we allow ourselvesto imagine ourselves as
something braver, bolder, moreforward-thinking.
(16:16):
That's where the good stuffcomes in.
I'm telling you.
But we have to stop centeringthese platforms and people that
have already shown us they are apart of the status quo.
They've already shown it to us.
Being shocked that the color redis red is wild to me.
(16:38):
And something to consider.
Why are we expecting red to bepurple?
Why are we expecting red to bewhite?
It already showed it's red.
I think rather than looking forpeople to change with the times,
we start centering businessesand people and missions that are
(17:06):
already doing the work, that arealready saying, you know what,
fuck this.
I'm building somethingdifferent, and my people are
gonna find me, and that'senough.
They're not folding, they're notcaving, they're waiting their
time.
They're doing it right the firsttime, and that's a long game.
(17:27):
That's a long game invisibility.
I made a post over on LinkedInabout visibility being a test of
grit, of being misunderstood, ofbeing of allowing other people
to perceive you and make choicesbased on what you share to
(17:48):
create an opinion of you, andI'm still flexing that muscle,
and I think Threads has allowedme to do that best in
podcasting, and I only hope tocontinue translating that on my
more short form platforms.
We have to be willing topractice what it is we're trying
(18:11):
to reject.
That's my two cents oneverything.
I would love to hear yourthoughts.
I have some really excitingthings in the works that I'm
excited to announce and share asthey continue to evolve.
You definitely want to follow meover on Instagram at Healing
with Jasmine.
(18:32):
That's where most of the updateswill always live.
I hope you are using the end ofthis year to reflect on your own
legacy.
I hope you're using the end ofthis year to think about all the
ways the universe has shown upand really shown out for you
this year, processing thoselevels of gratitude, and also
(18:56):
thinking about how you want tocrush it in 2026.
I do have a New Year'sAspirations episode coming at
the end of this year.
It is heartfelt, it is real, itis only the second time I've
cried on my own show as thehost, so I'm excited for you all
to hear it, but you know whereto find me, and I'll see you on
(19:20):
Friday.
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