October 3, 2023 • 56 mins
Join us as we navigate the fascinating life journey of Drew Nix, a former football athlete who took a detour into the world of music. With his roots in Hoover, Alabama, and a football coach for a father, Drew's adolescence revolved around the gridiron. This episode provides an intimate look into Drew's transition from high school football to the struggles he faced in college when his football scholarship fell through. Drew candidly shares his experience navigating through academic life, partying mishaps, a DUI incident, and his eventual reckoning and shift toward his passion for music.
The story doesn't stop at the football field; we journey with Drew into the thrilling world of music. We explore the formation of his band, the dynamics within, and the difficult decision to part ways with two of its members. Drew shares the exhilarating and often challenging process of finding a unique sound that ultimately becomes The Red Clay Strays!! He also sheds light on the difficulties of securing a record deal, the unexpected strings that come attached, and his wife, Laurie Anne Armour-Nix's journey in the music industry.
Drew not only shares the highs and lows of his life but also his aspirations and dreams for the future. He hopes to continue making music until his last breath. This revealing conversation offers a peek into the world of a former athlete turned musician and the challenges and triumphs that come with such a transition. Get ready for an episode that promises a thrilling narrative, insightful revelations, and much more. This is not just a tale of sports and music. It's a story of resilience, passion, and the pursuit of dreams, told by the very person who lived it - Drew Nix.
Below are links to Drew's socials, The Red Clay Strays website, his wife Laurie Ann's socials, and her website as well!
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https://www.redclaystrays.com/
https://laurieannemusic.com/
https://instagram.com/l.a.armour?igshid=NjIwNzIyMDk2Mg==
https://www.facebook.com/laurie.a.armour?mibextid=ZbWKwL
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Alright, everybody, we are back for another episode.
It is not your typical episode,but I've explained to people
that not just everyone in sportsor just stays in sports as a
vision quest we are joined today.
I was intrigued by you guys,number one just because of the
style of music you play and itdraws me in further to that type
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of music.
But I don't want to typecastyou guys because, honestly, I
hear like four different bandsthat I listen to in what you
guys play.
I am joined by Drew Nix, who isthe guitarist and vocalist for
a band called well, I don't evenknow what you call backup
vocalist or anything but a bandcalled Reg Clay Strays.
Man, I am super happy that youjoined me because, again, as I
(00:46):
was explaining you and I kind ofjumped we ended with was that
everything ties.
Everyone has a vision quest,everyone does it all.
It all pertains to what you'retrying to put into something
that you have a vision you know,and what you want to accomplish
or what you want to complete.
So I thought it would be kindof cool just to random reach out
, just so you know these guysseem like they're.
(01:07):
You know they still seem likethey're accessible, you can
still still reach out to them.
You know, yeah, but you guysare doing really good.
So, drew, when I messaged, youkind of told me that you were in
sports, so that's even moreconvenient for the show that you
were.
You started out in sports, so Imean, we were, like I said, we
start from way back to when youcan remember stuff.
(01:28):
So where, where let's start offof?
Where you come from, what townyou from, in what state.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm from Hoover, alabama, okay, so where's that
at?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
it's in Birmingham, probably 15 minutes south okay,
all right, I lived in Cairo,georgia, for a year or two.
I was training dogs down there,so I'm not from.
I went through Alabama but I'mnot completely familiar with
Alabama.
So what was that like what youcan remember as is kind of
starting off playing around as akid, like what was that like in
the summer?
Was that super hot down there?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
yeah, it's.
It's pretty sweltering inAlabama at all times.
Yeah, I mean, I started out insports when I was a kid, yeah,
but I've been around it since Iwas a twinkle in my dad's eye,
okay, he was just a, he was afootball coach.
So he was a.
(02:22):
He coached high school footballfrom you 88, 80, something,
that like 2000, 2003, I can'tremember all right.
He was in it.
He was he's in it for almost 20years or at 20 years yeah so he
was gone a lot, but he alwaysjust he traveled to different
(02:49):
schools and coached at differentschools.
He was an offense coordinatorokay, okay always was intrigued
with football, but I didn'treally start football until I
was a little bit older, likemiddle school baseball first as
a kid and I don't know if Iliked it or not, I don't feel
like I really started payingattention anything until like I
(03:09):
was nine or ten, yeah, and Istarted watching like sports
center a lot and my dad when hestarted taking notice of that he
was like you want to playfootball?
That was like sure all right?
I guess yeah, and then I was abigger kid, so they put me in
the 125 pound weight class orsomething yes in sixth grade yep
(03:34):
.
Everybody else was in.
I was in fifth grade andeverybody else was in sixth
grade yep on my team and Ididn't play at all, but I think
I was starting to kind of figureit out, yeah, yeah, and I don't
even know what position Iplayed then, but I played.
I really didn't play that wholeyear, but the next year I
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played with my month, with my,with my actual age and man, I
just absolutely dominatedeverybody.
I played nose guard and Iplayed a little bit of tight end
and I was just bigger thaneverybody, stronger than
everybody, faster than everybody, yeah, and was your dad, your
coach no, I didn't mention that.
(04:19):
So this was, it was like a, itwas like a travel club okay,
yeah we, we had multiple teamsin the league yeah, the Hoover
Youth Football Organization, andwhen there was like a Hoover
Orange and a Hoover Black and aHoover Blue and Hoover Blue was
our rival schools playing part.
Yeah, but man, I played withJames Winston.
(04:43):
You ever heard of him?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I'm familiar with that name.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, let us know where that's from, though so
James won the Heisman trophy inyeah 2013.
He was the quarterback for thestate yeah, me and him and this
dude named Daniel Austin werelike the hardest hitting dudes
on the team.
I think that's in that pointand I'm not.
(05:10):
I'm not trying to be cocky, youknow, not at all.
Everybody was like we enjoythat big dude.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, when you say dominate and stuff in the field,
like we enjoy that portion ofsports, like just pure
domination.
I mean, that's what you're outthere to do, right, that's what
your coach is telling you to do.
And then when you do it andit's pretty easily like, yeah,
get the fuck out of here dude, Ihad like maybe 20 stacks that
year or it was.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It might have been 16 , but it was.
I was averaging like two orthree stacks a game.
Nobody, nobody, could block me.
I remember one dude I ran a ranafter my kickoff in the
championship game and I hit himso hard he cried the next time.
That's awesome.
I was supposed to go againsthim like he was.
It was man, so much fun.
(05:58):
I miss it.
I miss that.
But as I started growing up,people started, the players
started kind of catching up tome.
I think I just had a reallygreat spurt.
Yeah, whatever it happens manseventh and eighth grade, like I
was.
I was still pretty, prettydominant and 160s 170s.
Yeah, yeah, I started getting.
(06:21):
I started getting caught upwith the ninth grade.
Yeah, I was just, I was still astarter in ninth grade, but I
didn't quite.
I wouldn't quite making thisthe same, I wasn't producing the
same.
Sure, yeah, yeah, I was stillplaying baseball.
I'd ran track at one point yeah.
I guess I was just trying tofind my foot in in life and
(06:45):
because I mean, you're in ninthgrade, you don't know what
you're gonna do the rest of yourlife.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
No not at all got.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We got a kid upstairs trying to figure it out right
now yeah yeah, home journey, kidright, but man ninth grade,
like I said, they startedcatching up to me.
And then 10th grade.
Everybody's just pretty muchlike pass me up well, you're,
(07:10):
but you're from Alabama, though.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
To like that's like a like football is what you guys
have for lunch, right, likethat's kind of in dinner and
they would.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, and that's the time.
So I don't know if you've everheard of Hoover High School, but
they were.
They had their own TV show inlike 2006 and 7 on MTV.
It was called two days, ohreally they're on that yeah they
were like one of the mostdominant high school football
programs in the country like acouple decades, and I didn't
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play, but like I wouldn't, Iwouldn't on two days or anything
like that, because that wasbefore my time yeah but it was a
really big deal to play thereand that coach that was there
before ended up leaving becausehe, like he had like a second
family, like a secret secondfamily or something that's cool.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You know it's fun yeah, he was like dream life
grades and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So by the time I get to ninth grade we have a new
coach and for varsity and sameyou could swear it's alright,
same shit.
No, it's.
I thought it was Chad.
Never, it's not chatting, butit's a dang it.
His name's coach nibblet, yeah,either way.
(08:31):
Yeah, his brother.
His brother was officecoordinator, okay, and he came
in, and I guess this is wherethe success parts comes in yeah,
because, even though I reallywasn't getting playing time,
everything he preached was justabout doing the right thing at
all times and being the bestChristian guy that you can be.
And everybody within thecollective team has a role and
(08:57):
everybody yeah if everybody doestheir job, no matter what,
you're going to be successful.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And I guess that's just kind of stuck with me all
this time.
And then dude we, my threeyears on varsity, we, we went to
state all three years.
Nice, we lost.
We lost twice but we won mysophomore year, which I, I think
I got, like it was either mysophomore junior year I got one
play, um, I was on like kickoffreturn team or something like
(09:31):
that, but I player.
So, but all three years, man, Ijust grinded until um.
I was just really trying to geta starting spot by my senior
year and it never reallyhappened.
But yeah uh, I really went forit, you know so it's.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
It's interesting, you know how.
So I was good in soccer, wherewe were like around here like it
was football, basketball,soccer, and then there, you know
I think other people were likeno, it's track or tennis, but
that's kind of what it was in myarea.
But I played soccer, my brotherplayed soccer and I was better
at that where we both wrestled,he was better at wrestling, so
(10:07):
it was kind of like you'retalking about these paths Like I
kind of found a way to allowwrestling to help my soccer,
because I was no good, I mean, Iwas.
I was in a position where I wasweighing more than I can handle
as far as the muscle, and justlike football, I mean you, you
grow at a certain spurt andwhether you had the mentality or
strength to do it, you start tokind of, am I going to do this?
(10:29):
This kind of sucks?
I don't know how long I'm goingto be able to do this.
You know my grades weren't goodeither, so I definitely wasn't
striving for any scholarshipscoming up, that's for sure,
cause I liked hanging out atpallet parties and, and you know
, doing the fun stuff where Iwasn't, I was dedicated to fun
stuff, not dedicated to sports.
But, man, I'll tell you whatsome of these kids, knowing the
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state that you come from infootball and just competition
like that, to like those kids,have to eat and breathe and
sleep that stuff in order to besuccessful.
I mean your coach, that coachthat you were talking about that
hit the nail on the head thatyou, you everyone, has a job and
it's just anywhere else.
Everyone has a job.
You perform that job.
It makes your day go that mucheasier because things flow
(11:11):
easier, right?
So it's it's interesting that ittook that long to run into that
type of coach.
I mean, I'm sure every coachhas that like meaning behind
what they're doing, but forsomeone to be able to finally
put it out there it's almostlike an aha moment just in life
in general, like, oh, all yougot to do is just my part.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Okay, all right, this makes sense and do it to the
best of your ability.
Yeah, that's, that was thething that you know.
You, if you, if you werefighting every day and doing
your job to the best of yourability, you're giving yourself
a chance to be successful, andit's not going to happen every
time.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Were you getting and I talked about my grades, I
don't know what yours were like,but were you getting like
offers from schools saying, hey,we want you to come, but you
got to bring your GPA up, oranything like that, or no, no?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I had a pretty decent You'd be, I mean I'd like.
I think I had like a three.
I think I had like a three,four or five.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
We were.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Not necessarily, dude .
I got to college and I don'teven I don't know if I broke a
2.0 in college, but man, no, Igot.
I got a.
Um, I had one footballscholarship that was like an
athletic scholarship.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
To like a in a in a I a school Yup, Yup, Uh.
In Montgomery, and I didn'tlike the vibe at all they told
me I was going to get a certainamount of money and then they
changed the last minute becauseI waited till Signing day.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Payton switch.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, I wasn't.
But there's this place calledMississippi college that I sent
them to and it was all practicefilms, so I'm sure they were
really laughing at it when whenthey got it, yeah, but, um,
whatever, I had a buddy when I,when I was a sophomore, we had a
senior linebacker named LandonMoore who really had a big
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influence on me just as a as adude and as a good person, and I
used to I would just hit him uplike hey man, do you like going
to this place, you like playingball here?
And it's like dude, yeah, Ilove it, I'm having a great time
, yeah, and uh, I justeventually kind of followed him
and went and played footballthere and they didn't, so that
it it was division three.
(13:19):
So they didn't give out, uh,athletic scholarships, sure, so
they were giving out what youcall a leadership scholarship,
which is an academic scholarshipfor athletes.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So it matters.
It matters man, it's money.
Yeah, that's whatever loopholeswork.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I guess that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
What school is that at again?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It's called Mississippi college.
Okay, it's in, uh, clinton,clinton, mississippi.
Um, it's a very, very strictChristian school.
Okay, I feel like as aChristian as a more of a
Christian now than I was I wouldenjoy it now, but I don't think
(14:02):
I was ready for it at the time.
Yeah, so I did some really dumbstuff, man.
You know you're growing up.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You're growing up, dude.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I party like four or five days a week, dude, just hey
, where are we drinking tonight?
Yeah, cool, all right, notproud of it, hey, whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And we talk about it all the time on here.
I mean you guys are 17, 18, youknow maybe a couple or 19 here
and there, but like you'reexpected to make a four or five
year decision that lines up therest of your life Like what.
I don't even know that my kidwould take out the trash at the
time if I tell them to right now.
Yeah, and so it's a lot, it's athere's a lot of weight on that.
So when you got there, how Imean, obviously you said you
(14:41):
were kind of drinking and stufflike that.
But I mean, were you able tomaintain like it, like it just
kind of like, nope, not to, it'snot a test today.
I'm not going, man, I'm notgoing to lecture, I'm not doing
that.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No, Dude, I didn't show up.
I didn't show up to class, bro,like I took a guitar class and
I failed because I didn't showup and look what you're doing
now.
Yeah, I know that irony, right,right.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You're nailing it.
You're nailing it.
Well, okay.
So you, when you got intocollege, then like, obviously
it's a struggle.
We see guys that are, that arehigh level NCAA.
You know wrestlers thatstruggled, almost didn't finish
your college careers, you know.
So I mean, it doesn't matterwhich direction or which place
you go to, it's still it doesn'tmatter, it's still a struggle
in life.
So how did you find your wayback and kind of slowly got back
(15:27):
into things, or how did you?
Did you end up dropping out ofcollege?
What happened?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Um, um, let's see my path was I?
I was a freshman in sophomoreplaying football, and that is,
that is a full time job.
Yeah, and I don't care whatanybody says, Like this whole
pay your athletes thing incollege, I'm okay with it
(15:52):
because they were giving theirentire life to it.
Yeah, correct, um, but man, myfirst year I didn't get.
I got I actually made the liketravel squad and I went and uh,
I might have been at worst thirdstring, maybe at best second
string, Got some special teamsplay time and uh, got our butts
(16:18):
whooped just about everySaturday, like I'm talking,
maybe there was like three gameswhere we got to be like 74 to
like 13.
Man, and they're just.
I'm just like can I get in now?
You have nothing else to lose,right?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Right Nothing at all Nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
No, there's.
I mean what it?
I'm sorry You're going to go upto 80 points now.
Yeah, like just because you putme in Right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So, now now I'll play time, but you still put the
work in right.
I mean because he kind of hadnew.
You had a, you had a role toplay, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, for sure.
And uh, just coming from asuccessful program like Hoover
and and going into that was kindof like a and it wasn't like I
don't think it was a coach'sfault, because he was a great
man, yeah, and he expectedstandards from us that I just
think the culture wasn't readyto try to meet there.
You know, yeah, our coacheswere all cool.
(17:16):
One of them even used to workfor saving and he's probably
doing things now.
But, yeah, I learned a lotabout like the schematics of
football there and I reallytried my best, because what I
love about football is that it'slike a it is a full-on chess
match but flying bodieseverywhere.
(17:37):
You know, like that's what Ilove it, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Right, yeah, for sure .
Speaker 2 (17:43):
But I guess, getting back to what got me out of that
was, uh, I guess after mysophomore year I'd worked so
hard that I'd gotten up to likesecond string and all these new
recruits came in and they weregood and uh, I'd worked up and
all of a sudden it just, uh, Ithink I ended up on third string
(18:06):
before we started the seasonand I lost like a starting spot
on special teams.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Really, it was like I don't care anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
So I started partying even more than I was before and
I never got anything hard ornothing.
It was just drinking way toomuch.
And one night, me and my buddyI won't name them, but uh, we
were coming back from a partyingand he was throwing up.
Uh he had, uh, he had tried thedevil's lettuce and he was
(18:40):
drinking that night too, so hewas throwing up and I felt, fine
, I shouldn't have been driving.
But uh, we stopped at a wafflehouse one mile away from campus.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And, uh, I was like, hey, let's swap.
Um, so I took the wheel and Idon't, I don't know, I just
didn't have my lights on.
It was well lit street.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I got pulled over and my heart just like sank and I
Was in jail for like 14 hoursfor DUI and Lucky.
I had to wait for that guy tocome down me out, which was
awesome, and I he's still one ofmy best friends today.
Yeah, it was just a bad nightand he came and got me and I
(19:32):
tried to keep it quiet for likea week, yeah, and Nobody.
I guess some of my teammatesmight have heard and stuff like
that.
Maybe a couple days later, butlike three or four guys from the
team went and stole somebicycles from Walmart or
something.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I remember going in and into our team meeting man,
and everybody's just likelooking at me, like Looking at
me with eyebrows up, just likethey know.
How do you all know this?
They were like you know, thepolice department came to coach
(20:15):
Jones and said man, you know wehad a problem, this is the
fourth player We've arrestedthis week.
And they were like you arrestedthe three guys, who's the
fourth one?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Oh, that sucks.
Yeah that's so.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Hey, called me into that that my head coach called
Because Joseph was his name.
He called me into his office.
It was like Son, you're reallynot getting a whole lot of
playing time as it is right now.
Nothing's really gonna change,man, you're just definitely not
gonna play now.
So If you wouldn't have kept itfrom me and maybe worked it all
(20:53):
out, and been fine.
But so then I started taking ita little bit further and still
drank more and more and more.
Yeah and there was a point whereI just was like, man, I Don't
want to do, I don't want to goback, yeah, this isn't fun
anymore, right, and I Think Ifinished.
(21:17):
I finished out the season,mm-hmm, and I've worked.
I've worked out a lot and I wastrying to get in good shape and
I just didn't.
But it wasn't to be in football.
This is just trying to loseweight and date girls and yeah,
look good.
Yeah, look good.
Yeah, and I Just didn't show upfor spring training.
I just didn't even tell themanything, I didn't say I wasn't
(21:40):
coming back, I just didn't showup and yeah.
I knew by the next semester Iwanted to leave and I thought
about wanting to coach.
Okay, cuz my career wasn'tgoing anywhere.
I wasn't At this point.
I was just playing football forfun, yeah, yeah, at a private
Christian college, and it wascosting me a lot of money.
(22:01):
I decided I wanted to.
I wanted to apply to Auburn andI didn't get in.
Yeah, and I was like man, whatdo I do now, cuz my GPA is so
bad that I can't even get intoAuburn?
And I Think about South Alabamaand one of their, one of their
(22:25):
defense the defense coordinatoron the football team at South
Alabama the previous year wasone of my coaches at Hoover.
Okay, so I was like maybe Ihave a chance in coaching.
Yeah so I show up or I callSouth and I'm like, hey, what do
I need to do to be a like agraduate assistant or something,
or like a coaches assistant orsomething, so that I can Work my
(22:50):
way in?
Yeah, for sure, like you should.
Uh, well, we don't have any ofthe spots available right now,
but if you join the equipmentstaff, I Can work you up.
Maybe you can work your way up,dude.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I Don't want to check in.
Shoulder pads man, that's stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
No, it's so much worse than that dude, so much
worse and I'll get to that.
But, like after oh Three, I dida whole semester of getting up
it for am Driving over to mobilebecause I live in the Biloxi
with my dad, so it's like anhour drive every day and that so
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I wanted it.
I was like I don't see anyavenue in football anymore, so I
need to.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Really want to be a great coach.
I don't know how far I want totake it, but I really feel like
I could be good at it.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I've always felt like I wanted to be great at
something and I've granted mybutt off and I went there every
day, showed up on time and myjob was to like wash stock
straps, set up drills, put allthe clothes back, take a bunch
of crap from coaches from notsetting drills upright.
(24:09):
Damn, drew a day.
Yeah, yeah, I have one that Istill hate now and I won't say
his name.
Yeah, just not a good dude Atall.
Um, but I did a year of thatand they were like, oh, let me
give you a scholarship.
And I kept I Would try to havemeetings with their head coach
(24:31):
and you'd be like, yeah, youknow, we'll consider you for for
Student assistant work orwhatever.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, never happens.
But by the end of the firstyear I met these dudes and I'm a
student named Turner who I wasworking with at the football
team.
Yeah, and he introduced me tothis guy named Brandon who is
star league singer Yep, he and.
And then he and then Turnerneed a guy that played bass and
(25:04):
love playing bass, and his namesAndy.
And that's how I met Andy.
Okay, yeah, so started thisfirst band and we got so busy
with that first band.
I think maybe a Year and a halflater is when we had broken up
that first band, but we startedthe second band.
(25:25):
We got so busy where I justJust quick go into school.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Well, what was that first band's name?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It was called the Coleman Mason band.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Nice, that's actually not a bad name.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, so it was Brandon Coleman and Turner Mason
.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, I can handle that that'sI can.
It's marketable, it'smarketable, yeah.
So so you start, you start yourtransition into what we'll call
music land for now.
But what, when you're kind ofyou're going through that grind
of you know, getting kickedaround and told to go wash jocks
and stuff like that, which Ithink is just absolutely
(26:00):
horrible, horrible.
But yeah, when you're goingthrough that process?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
that's not real bad.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Were you playing music in the interim here, where
I mean, when did this?
When did playing a guitar start?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I would say, when Turner was like hey, I got this
dude that I Think he has areally great voice.
Yeah, then we're gonna start aband.
Do you want to book and manageus?
Oh, and I was just.
I was kind of hesitant, but Iwas just like sure.
Yeah but then, like I Went over,they had like a little jam
(26:40):
session at Turner's house, okay,and I heard Brandon sing for
the first time.
Yep, I was like good God,almighty, okay, I'm gonna do
everything I can for this guy.
Yeah, I would sit in theequipment office and I would put
post-it notes just Maybe 30 or40 post-it notes up in the
(27:04):
section where there's like justalready notes and stuff.
I could just numbers emails ofevery venue that was around
mobile.
Yeah like Florida, where we'reat in Mississippi Gulf Coast,
just like right there, and Iwould call and call, and call
and call, until just somebodysaid yes.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I Guess, maybe six months into that I figured
Somehow I Got my heart broke orsomething.
Yeah, yeah, so my girlfriendbroke up with me and I just
started writing songs.
Yeah, I don't know why, it wasjust like a blue song.
That was really bad.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But I'd say it's 2020 they were like.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
They were like yeah, that's good man.
It was like maybe maybe this is, maybe this is it for me.
You know, maybe I've gotsomething.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, no, I just started picking up the guitar
then, which I guess makes itabout seven years ago.
Yeah, and I've been justlearning ever since.
But so that was why?
Because I wanted the right song.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well, you got you.
So you started kind of hangingout with these guys that are
part of the band as far in thesports Is where it all came
together, because you guys arein an equipment room kind of
hanging out right.
So, as you guys started todevelop as because you said, you
started the one band and wentinto another band what was the
reason for transitioning to thatother band?
Was it just because one guydidn't have the time to do
(28:30):
something, so it was just two ofyou left, or three you left,
and it didn't feel right, notwith that one guy.
So we're gonna start somethingdifferent.
How did that all transition?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Oh, oh, start with this.
We had to start that first band.
We had a 64 year old drummer,nice, and we and him ended up
not getting along at all.
Okay, I hate that because itmight have been my fault, might
have not been sure.
(29:00):
Ray, if you hear this, I doapologize.
Yeah, maybe he won't, I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, but we'll see if I get a phone call it you
know.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, great shoulders man.
So me and him just got into it.
At the end he was like Don'tworry about me, I'm done.
And so we needed a drummer andGosh, we were maybe six months
(29:30):
away from breaking up, but we,because things were just not
going well.
There was one dude in there,and I won't say who it was.
It was just consistentlytalking crap about everybody
else.
Wow, and yeah, man, just liketalking crap about other people
to the other, like just like hey, this, hey, this dude, I don't
(29:53):
like his tone, I don't like histone at all, I don't like it.
Wow.
And then he would talk tosomebody else like hey, this
dude's an idiot.
And then like wow, just didn'tstop, just not, not cool, that's
cancer.
Liar lies Cancer.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
So, anyway, going back to, we were putting feelers
out for a term and we had trieda couple of people out and they
were okay.
But John walks in and he's himand Andy hit the first note
together and I swear to God, Iwas just like, all right, this
is our guy, it has to be our guy, dude.
(30:30):
Like it was just like boomtogether.
It was like, and ever sincethen it's just like they are
locked man.
That's one of my favoritethings about our band.
Is that how they can?
John can hit like a random drumkit or something, yeah, and
they have this.
Andy should like boom, youcan't fool me, or John will go
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pop off and he'll be right therewith me.
It's the most weirdsynchronicity I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
So you guys, you guys gel.
Well, man, I mean, likelistening to you guys play, it
sounds like you guys have beenplaying for like years Like I'm
talking decades, you know,because, like I said, I like
that.
There's a sound that I likewhen it comes to the older style
of country that you guys havekept up with.
So listening to these storiesabout how these guys are just
clicking, I mean you can tellwhen you guys are playing all
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the time you can always tell oh,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, we're definitely rusty when we haven't
been playing for a while.
Um, not lately, it's been nice.
But I guess that that change,that transition, started
happening when.
So John's been playing a bandsince he was 10 years old, like
M bars, his dad, his dad's, likea mobile legend he played
(31:43):
guitar for.
Oh wow, when a man loves awoman.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, that, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
That guy I feel like an idiot.
I'm not saying.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I won't get it either .
Oh, no, okay, anyway, yeah, buthe would play guitar for him
and said John's just growing upin bands and John had all these
ideas of things that we shouldchange.
And we had two guitar playersin our band, yeah, and they were
like he can shove, he can shovehis experience of his ass, yeah
(32:18):
, yeah.
And me being like I want to bebetter, like I always want to be
better, I want to be the bestthat I can be, yeah, and
Brandon's same way and Andy wasthe same way.
And we are already.
The three of us were alreadykind of not getting along With
the other two and John was likeman, let's just give it like one
(32:39):
more year.
Sure, sure.
We were like dude, we don'thave one more year left to give
them.
We have to, we have to cut itnow.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And I felt bad too, because Turner was like my first
best friend at South Alabama.
Okay, yeah, that's right, um itjust, uh, he, uh just people
change man.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Like you change.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You, when you go through and just listen to, like
, talking to high school kids,to college kids, to you know,
coaches, I mean we all, you all,like, even now I'm 45, like I'm
, I'll be different in fiveyears, I'll have a different
opinion of something, but that'sthat's us as human beings.
You know, like, whether it'sgood or bad to us, people are
going to change in a directionyou just aren't aware of.
(33:23):
You know, until now, you knowsitting back and talking about
it, like you know I was, I waslike this, but he was like this.
So we got along.
We all change and evolved in adifferent way.
And it hurts when you're doingbusiness or like they're trying
to do something.
That's like a business becausea band I mean, that's you're
having fun, but you still got tobe able to be successful enough
to want to keep going.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
You know, and if you guys aren't enjoying it together
, it's hard to enjoy it.
You know it's it's thatseparation part so but yeah, man
it's that direction seems likeit wasn't necessarily a like
cause.
I, you know.
You can hear you saying youknow, sorry if this happened.
It didn't seem like it wasmeant to be, but the way that it
happened wasn't the way it wassupposed to happen.
(34:04):
You know, it just kind of wentjust a weird way which should
happen.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, you know yeah, dude, yeah, and what I, what I,
you know, and I still wasn'teven a part of the band yet.
I was just still mad, as youcan book.
And so, yeah, I guess we'resitting in Brandon's living room
and and his and his house onColeman Hill and he's like, well
, what do we do now?
(34:27):
And we were like I don't know,we got to come up with a new
name or something and start thisnew band.
And we were like, okay, well,like we need a guitar player.
And I was like, yeah, I wonderwho we could get.
So John, john's brother.
He passed away a few years ago.
His name is Jacob.
(34:48):
He recommended Zach and we hadtried a couple of guitar players
out and they were okay, and theexact thing, man, and it was
that same synchronicity.
He was just hitting it withAndy and John together just
grooving, and it was like yeah,this is the guy man, we were all
just in there.
(35:09):
You know it was that Andy'sparents house where he tried out
at, and that was the firstiteration of the strays and I
got us booking shows and movingas hard as we could, because the
goal is to try to get in frontof as many people as you can.
You know you got something likethat and I mean we were playing
(35:31):
for gosh 400 bucks for fourhours, which is not even.
That's a little different now.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I hope so.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
We did it for a while .
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Oh yeah, we did it for a while.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That's the grind we always hear about.
Uses.
Regular Joe blows that don'tknow about that.
That's the grind we hear about.
You guys you pay your dues, yougo out and play dirty bar halls
and stuff, but a lot of timesyou hear that those are some of
the most memorable.
You know the most fun nightsthat you guys try to lay down.
You know any type of good music, or when you're guys are out
(36:09):
just trying to do your best.
Those are usually the nightsthat you guys are the most.
It's just that gritty, weirdkind of environment, but that's
what I will be like.
So my grandpa ran a bar and hehad little bands come out and
stuff like that too, and I lovelistening to bands live, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I can't, obviously I can't.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I can't have you guysplay in my backyard every day
and I can't invite LeonardScannard and all those guys come
over and play in my backyard.
So I still have to listen to,you know, spotify or whatever I
have.
But if I can catch people live,especially bands that I like,
hands down I'm going to go see alive every time.
But I haven't been opening mymind to new music as far as you
(36:47):
know, like I would say, from mytwenties on, I kind of stayed
pretty close minded.
I didn't listen to stuff.
How does that work with, likeyou guys, when you guys are
sitting around jamming andtrying to write music Because
again, we talked about howeverybody's different.
Well, how do you guys put musictogether when you guys are, you
know, your first meet andyou're sitting down you finally
got this guitar guy.
How do you guys gel togetherand try to like either write a
(37:09):
song together Do you guys keepthat?
No, he's good at it, we'll lethim do that part and then I'll
do this part.
You know this portion of it ordo you guys kind of band
together with with songs, Iguess?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Um man, how it really started was that I've gotten a
lot better as a writer by then.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
So I was trying to write all the time, uh, trying
to get better at it and readmore, which I didn't read that
much anyway.
But just learn up on literature.
You know what certain thingswork.
And like, um, I don't know, Iwould just come up with a chord
structure so that would you know, like a CD or something.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I would play it and I would do it and I would present
it and play it for the band.
Now, I couldn't play and singat the same time, so I would
have to like get somebody elseto play.
I would show the chords tosomebody else and play, yeah
yeah, dude's coordination.
Man, it's not easy, I couldn't,I didn't do it and I would.
I showed it.
(38:14):
I would show it to like Brandonand have him play it or sing it
, yeah.
Just how the words work.
And that was just me chippingmy songs off to the band, Cause
that's that was what I couldcontribute at the time.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Right, right.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
And we, how?
Coming together and making asong.
Where is you hear the groove?
You hear the?
Okay?
Well, I have space right here Ican make like a counter melodic
thing.
That would be tasteful.
Yeah, it's just like adding anextra voice in there, but it's
your instrument, you know thisright on.
(38:52):
So like this beat would work onthis song, because you have
this meter.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, yep, yep, exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I got you, so it's like yeah, yup.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
All the way through Yup.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah.
Or you hear like a part thatbreaks up Hit, like a hit, a
symbol there, yup, you know itjust.
Uh, I don't know, we just hearit on our heads.
We're like music,schizophrenics, it just it just
comes to us and it's a.
It's really.
It is one of the blessings Ithank God for the most every day
(39:32):
, for real.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
So it's a unique sound, like I told you that I
could hear like four different,like so, in in his voice alone I
can hear um, uh, god, of courseNow I'm thinking again the
whole thinking of names thing Um, what, uh, oh shit, no, no, no,
(39:55):
no, no, it's not even country,it's not even country.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Uh, all right.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Now I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to pause
on that, because that's a yousaid Pearl Jam, so I'm thinking
better.
Yeah, no, because better is notthat not better, is not that
high pitched?
Yeah, it's uh no, he's not.
Oh, I feel like such a moronbecause I had this for so long
in my head.
Um, I told my wife about it,mm-mm.
Now I get an album texted toyou, but there's then, but then,
(40:23):
like listening to a portionlike of your guitar, I hear a
whale and Jennings song, youknow, so I can.
I hear all these differentpieces within your band.
So that's kind of what's weirdabout me.
When I listen to music, I candivide out, I can pull the drums
out and kind of listen to justthe drums, and then I can also
listen to the bass.
And you guys probably get usedto that, you know, when you're
(40:44):
listening to music, becauseyou're trying to piece things
together Sometimes if new songyou guys are trying out or
something that someone you know?
do you guys play cover songs?
You gotta write.
Have some fun with it, right?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Uh, dude, we used to do four to five hours worth of
coverage.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Nice, we can.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We're not.
We don't do them true at alltoo.
We have made our own versionsof those songs.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Perfect, Then that's the best part.
So, like you guys are listeningto songs, you gotta be able to
pull little things out.
So, like that's I stood when Iwas started listening to you
guys which was oh, I don't know,maybe a month ago, before I
messaged you, was like a coupleof weeks I was like man, these
guys are like this is uniqueagain where it's not the same
pop country that's on the radio.
So I just started listeningover and over and I started
(41:27):
pulling tunes out and listeningto different, different portions
that you play.
Versus what Brandon singing,you know things like that.
It just it's so different to meas far as what's out there
right now and I I like that kindof stuff with.
When it's different, you know,like when you listen to Sturgill
Simpson who out in countrymusic singing about MDMA right,
(41:48):
I mean nobody talking abouttrippy, trippy stuff, but either
way he's, he's makes sense whenhe's singing and it's good
music, it's fun, yeah.
So when you guys are playing ata venue and you guys had gotten
to like your first venue, likewhat, what were some of the?
What were some of the thingsyou guys went through as a young
band?
Like, were you guys settingyour own stuff up.
Did you say no, we got to havesomeone along to be able to set
(42:09):
everything up.
Like how, how did that go?
Was just like let's go out.
We got to do this.
You don't have time for thatstuff.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Oh, we're definitely setting our own stuff up still.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I mean, if you want to be a local band, you have to
have your own sound system.
Okay, 50% of the time theymight have their own sound
system, which is dope, and somebut some idiot like me running
(42:41):
sound just to get everythingright before the show so that I
can go up on stage and yeah, nowworry about it.
Maybe it sounds good.
You got to pray, it sounds good, but I already forgot the
question.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
How did you guys do you?
Guys are obviously setting somestuff up.
You know, as far as your yourgear, yeah, but like how nuts
was it when you were, when youguys really first started out at
like your first venues, whereyou guys constantly like, oh
crap, we don't have this, weforgot this to to plug in or
whatever Cause there's.
I'm doing a podcast, there's alot of shit for this, like I'm
(43:15):
telling you, yeah.
And then now to imagine all youguys hook at your stuff up like
what were some of the headachesyou went through, as like a
young band, like what are somefunny stories.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Oh man, oh, that's so long ago now.
I can't really remember.
I just know that dude every,every single load in and was a
workout like okay, so like thespeakers they're dead gum the
(43:47):
size of a drawer or something,and like you got to pick those
up and put them on big oldstands and yeah.
Yeah, you got to watch forfeedback issues and, man, if I
had any good sound tech storiesI'd I'll tell you, but I can't
really think of any from backthen.
I just know that we just thatthat was the true grind, and we,
(44:11):
I mean gosh, we play four orfive days a week, so and we
would just try to.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
I mean, did you guys, did anybody ever forget an
instrument you had to go without?
Anything like that.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Uh, you can't go without an instrument.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
No, no, you guys didn't improvise like that.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
No no man.
Oh, Andy has definitelyforgotten his bass before Nice.
That is the most forgetful sonof a gun.
I know.
I don't know when and where,but he has forgotten his bass
more than one occasion.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
So I have a question about some of the different
venues you guys have played, solike I've only seen.
Well, I only watched likedevils in my brain at the.
I can't remember what countycounty fair it was.
It wasn't even a county fair.
I got to go back here in acouple of.
It might even play if I go backto.
Yeah, there it is.
No, you guys are at Laurel CoveMusic Festival.
(45:06):
Oh that's the only one, that'sthe only version I'll listen to.
Like to me that one, like itsounds just like it's being
played like right in a bar, likeyou guys are right in the
corner of a bar but you're outin a big field, you know, and
that's what I love about some ofthe music that comes out
sometimes.
So, some of these venues thatyou guys have played, what are
some of the like what was yourfavorite so far that you guys
(45:27):
have played since this allreally started coming together?
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Favorite venue.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Gosh, I'll give you a local favorite.
Yeah, we have one calledCowhands and Mobile.
That is like a staple, for Iguess you would call us within
the American of AIM.
Okay, yeah, it's a staple forus people.
The guy that runs it, his nameis JT.
(45:58):
It's one of the best people Iknow.
Don't tell him.
I said that.
He's just a good, good humanbeing.
He takes care of his bands, hegoes above and beyond, made my
wife for hopefully playing therenext week, so that's right.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, you guys play together as well, so you are not
by any means like hanging outand just you know.
Whatever you know, we're goingto hang out for three weeks and
do nothing.
You do also perform with yourwife as well.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
I haven't had three weeks to hang out here in over a
year.
That's why I appreciate thistime.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
That's why I totally appreciate this time, because I
know how crammed it gets for youguys, because it's not easy,
you know I mean.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
But no, you found a way.
Yeah, we played.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, you found a way to be able to play with your
wall.
Has she always been doing musiclike all her life, or did she
jump into it later, like you did?
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Uh, I'd say she's been doing it for 10 or 11 years
, nice, so she's been playingaround.
Um, she started.
I think her first gig was atlike Uh, on the causeway
somewhere, I can't remember thename, but was that by yourself?
But yeah, nice.
So she's just.
(47:13):
She's been doing her thing fora long time.
She makes great music and it'sbeautiful.
It has a beautiful voice.
Yeah, very soothing, good, goodtunes, great writing.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Nice, she writes her own songs Um yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Awesome you should go listen to it, man.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
It's good stuff.
It's it's not.
Every song on that record isalmost a different genre, so
it's, it's a pretty cool andit's again.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I listen.
You've you're listened to thelist of plays, things that are
people that I listened to.
I mean it goes from Tupac to to.
I listened to some growth books, to the.
There's a whole list of musicthat I listened to.
It's uh, you'd be surprised atwhat's blaring out of my, my car
, when I pull up.
But so, as you guys now likewhere you're at, how long do you
(48:00):
guys plan on going?
You guys plan to do thisforever, cause I mean I hope so.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, I want to be like the rolling sides man.
Okay, okay I want to go tillI'm dead.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Till you're dead Okay .
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I'm dead.
What, what is that?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
What, what is that?
What does that path look like?
Do you guys want to play?
Are you looking to get bigCause?
Now you listen to OliverAnthony, right Like.
Doesn't want the $8 milliondeal, doesn't want to deal with
that garbage, wants to playmusic Cause.
That kind of where you guys areat too.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I don't, yeah, I don't care about.
I care about money, but I cancome by money on my own If, if
I'm successful in music.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
I don't.
I don't want to deal like thosedudes are just trying to pull
your strings and tell you whatto do.
They're just waving all thatmoney in your face just so that
they can basically own you.
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, all itis, it's alone.
And now they're.
They're sweetening the dealswhen they're seeing artists like
Oliver Anthony out there justabsolutely crushing it.
(49:01):
But they still own you.
Yeah, and they own your, yourmusic, they own your songs.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
And I'm just not at a point like we've already had,
we did a record deal.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, and it was a small label deal but it was a
typical three, six, yeah, Idon't know if it was in 360 deal
, but they ended up owning ourcrap, move, and we knew what we
were getting into.
So like.
But like you figure, if they'reowning all your stuff, that
they would want to push itharder and they would want you
to go back into the studio.
Yeah, and make more care, yeah,uh, and granted, it was COVID,
(49:35):
but we just, I don't know I theywant you to make a record, but
they, they, they, they're notgoing to put a record out, right
?
They they're very picky aboutthe songs and we like what we
make.
So we got off that label andmade our own.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
So I don't care about money, I just want to make my
art and reach people, as manypeople as I can Well and you
guys had the advantage of theSpotify thing and the YouTube
thing, where you guys can do Imean, obviously it doesn't,
money doesn't start pouring in,you know what I'm saying, but
you get the attention you'relooking for as people who want
(50:12):
to listen to your music.
You know that's, that's really.
I mean, obviously, like yousaid, you still money matters.
You got to pay bills, right, Imean, you still got a, a home,
you got to pay for family, gotto support things like that.
But at the same point though,too, like you said, these guys
they take, they take your songs,they own them.
Then you can.
And then the ones that you wantto put out they don't even want
to put the ones you want to putout, because the doesn't sound
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good to them, you know causethey know the market so well,
it's not a hit.
Yeah, you catch those guys.
I'll you know and I'll behonest with you.
I wish I could have producedsome music, because I seem to
pick when albums come out, andI'm not bragging, I'm not
patting my back here, but I seemto be able to pick like that.
That one's going to be on theradio right there, that one's
going to be on the radio, I bet,cause I'm listening.
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I'm like, oh man, this is thisone hits, you know, but not
every single time.
And you're like, why isn't thatone song out?
Why aren't they putting thatout?
Then you don't get yes, exactlythe money, money, you know.
So it's just like, oh God,these guys act like they know
what they're listening to, butthey really don't, you know so.
I love it.
I love what you guys are doing,man, and we've been going for
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almost an hour here.
So, like I told you, it'susually by an hour, hour and a
half, some guys three hours, andsome of those guys, man, they
have they have just talked andtalking to storytellers, and
that's why we're here.
We're here to tell stories andkind of hang out and show the
venture that you guys have inthe vision that you guys have
and what you want to do.
So you guys love playing musicand I that's the part that I
(51:37):
love, because the moment I heardyou guys kind of put out there
the we're not going to releasethis, you guys come and watch it
live I was like, yup, I likethat, right there, that's,
that's my kind of shit.
So that kind of drew me in moreand I started watching more of
what you guys are doing andwatching that live AF.
I know what that is, but eitherway, that was some good shit.
(51:58):
You know that was good stuff.
Yeah, exactly, it's put seethat.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
That's the thing they do a fantastic job.
Yeah, they're very good.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
So I'd like to do a live AF in my backyard, which I
think would be a really greatidea, because I'm.
I'm so we're.
We got some things that we'regoing to be doing in the
backyard.
I'll tell you about that.
Maybe you guys will hop on overand we can do a little jam
together some sometime, becauselike I said.
I kind of got in music a littlebit, but but when you guys
aren't, so I'm going to cut thisoff a little bit here.
(52:28):
Man, I'm going to start my mylittle music gig here so we can
get you going, because you gotto leave for a flight in the
morning.
Where are you headed to?
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Uh, Maryland.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
That's right.
Yeah, maryland, where I don'tknow where, where in Maryland,
you don't know where?
Let me see, that's crazy.
I don't know where I'm going.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
We're flying.
We're flying into, uh, flyinginto, baltimore.
Okay, careful, we're playing atthe Frederick the great
Frederick fair in Maryland, nice, which is Frederick, frederick
County, maryland, somewhere.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Well, I hope someone that's in charge of your
Instagram or YouTube or whateverput something out, because I
definitely want to see it.
Um, can you tell me or do youguys?
Here's an interesting questionDo you guys have the same set
list every night?
Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Um, if we're in like a string of shows and we're
tired and just don't feel likemessing with it because we think
it's a good thing for them, uh,we'll keep one for like a
string of shows, okay, and if weget tired of it, we'll.
We'll swap some stuff around,okay.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
So no, but kind of you know what I mean, and
sometimes it with some bands andmatters, but with you guys it
seems like a one cause you guysthrow so much different flavor
into things whenever you play.
It's just, it's always fun towatch every single time.
So, with that being said, manDrew Nix of the red clay strays
dude, I really appreciate youbeing on here with me.
Man, yeah, it's been awesome.
I'm going to talk to you forjust a second, just like I do
(53:58):
with everybody, but I'm going tolet everybody else know we are
out.
Alright, everybody, we are back for another episode.
It is not your typical episode,but I've explained to people
that not just everyone in sportsor just stays in sports as a
vision quest we are joined today.
I was intrigued by you guys,number one just because of the
style of music you play and itdraws me in further to that type
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of music.
But I don't want to typecastyou guys because, honestly, I
hear like four different bandsthat I listen to in what you
guys play.
I am joined by Drew Nix, who isthe guitarist and vocalist for
a band called well, I don't evenknow what you call backup
vocalist or anything but a bandcalled Reg Clay Strays.
Man, I am super happy that youjoined me because, again, as I
(00:46):
was explaining you and I kind ofjumped we ended with was that
everything ties.
Everyone has a vision quest,everyone does it all.
It all pertains to what you'retrying to put into something
that you have a vision you know,and what you want to accomplish
or what you want to complete.
So I thought it would be kindof cool just to random reach out
, just so you know these guysseem like they're.
(01:07):
You know they still seem likethey're accessible, you can
still still reach out to them.
You know, yeah, but you guysare doing really good.
So, drew, when I messaged, youkind of told me that you were in
sports, so that's even moreconvenient for the show that you
were.
You started out in sports, so Imean, we were, like I said, we
start from way back to when youcan remember stuff.
(01:28):
So where, where let's start offof?
Where you come from, what townyou from, in what state.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm from Hoover, alabama, okay, so where's that
at?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
it's in Birmingham, probably 15 minutes south okay,
all right, I lived in Cairo,georgia, for a year or two.
I was training dogs down there,so I'm not from.
I went through Alabama but I'mnot completely familiar with
Alabama.
So what was that like what youcan remember as is kind of
starting off playing around as akid, like what was that like in
the summer?
Was that super hot down there?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
yeah, it's.
It's pretty sweltering inAlabama at all times.
Yeah, I mean, I started out insports when I was a kid, yeah,
but I've been around it since Iwas a twinkle in my dad's eye,
okay, he was just a, he was afootball coach.
So he was a.
(02:22):
He coached high school footballfrom you 88, 80, something,
that like 2000, 2003, I can'tremember all right.
He was in it.
He was he's in it for almost 20years or at 20 years yeah so he
was gone a lot, but he alwaysjust he traveled to different
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schools and coached at differentschools.
He was an offense coordinatorokay, okay always was intrigued
with football, but I didn'treally start football until I
was a little bit older, likemiddle school baseball first as
a kid and I don't know if Iliked it or not, I don't feel
like I really started payingattention anything until like I
(03:09):
was nine or ten, yeah, and Istarted watching like sports
center a lot and my dad when hestarted taking notice of that he
was like you want to playfootball?
That was like sure all right?
I guess yeah, and then I was abigger kid, so they put me in
the 125 pound weight class orsomething yes in sixth grade yep
(03:34):
.
Everybody else was in.
I was in fifth grade andeverybody else was in sixth
grade yep on my team and Ididn't play at all, but I think
I was starting to kind of figureit out, yeah, yeah, and I don't
even know what position Iplayed then, but I played.
I really didn't play that wholeyear, but the next year I
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played with my month, with my,with my actual age and man, I
just absolutely dominatedeverybody.
I played nose guard and Iplayed a little bit of tight end
and I was just bigger thaneverybody, stronger than
everybody, faster than everybody, yeah, and was your dad, your
coach no, I didn't mention that.
(04:19):
So this was, it was like a, itwas like a travel club okay,
yeah we, we had multiple teamsin the league yeah, the Hoover
Youth Football Organization, andwhen there was like a Hoover
Orange and a Hoover Black and aHoover Blue and Hoover Blue was
our rival schools playing part.
Yeah, but man, I played withJames Winston.
(04:43):
You ever heard of him?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I'm familiar with that name.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, let us know where that's from, though so
James won the Heisman trophy inyeah 2013.
He was the quarterback for thestate yeah, me and him and this
dude named Daniel Austin werelike the hardest hitting dudes
on the team.
I think that's in that pointand I'm not.
(05:10):
I'm not trying to be cocky, youknow, not at all.
Everybody was like we enjoythat big dude.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, when you say dominate and stuff in the field,
like we enjoy that portion ofsports, like just pure
domination.
I mean, that's what you're outthere to do, right, that's what
your coach is telling you to do.
And then when you do it andit's pretty easily like, yeah,
get the fuck out of here dude, Ihad like maybe 20 stacks that
year or it was.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It might have been 16 , but it was.
I was averaging like two orthree stacks a game.
Nobody, nobody, could block me.
I remember one dude I ran a ranafter my kickoff in the
championship game and I hit himso hard he cried the next time.
That's awesome.
I was supposed to go againsthim like he was.
It was man, so much fun.
(05:58):
I miss it.
I miss that.
But as I started growing up,people started, the players
started kind of catching up tome.
I think I just had a reallygreat spurt.
Yeah, whatever it happens manseventh and eighth grade, like I
was.
I was still pretty, prettydominant and 160s 170s.
Yeah, yeah, I started getting.
(06:21):
I started getting caught upwith the ninth grade.
Yeah, I was just, I was still astarter in ninth grade, but I
didn't quite.
I wouldn't quite making thisthe same, I wasn't producing the
same.
Sure, yeah, yeah, I was stillplaying baseball.
I'd ran track at one point yeah.
I guess I was just trying tofind my foot in in life and
(06:45):
because I mean, you're in ninthgrade, you don't know what
you're gonna do the rest of yourlife.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
No not at all got.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We got a kid upstairs trying to figure it out right
now yeah yeah, home journey, kidright, but man ninth grade,
like I said, they startedcatching up to me.
And then 10th grade.
Everybody's just pretty muchlike pass me up well, you're,
(07:10):
but you're from Alabama, though.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
To like that's like a like football is what you guys
have for lunch, right, likethat's kind of in dinner and
they would.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, and that's the time.
So I don't know if you've everheard of Hoover High School, but
they were.
They had their own TV show inlike 2006 and 7 on MTV.
It was called two days, ohreally they're on that yeah they
were like one of the mostdominant high school football
programs in the country like acouple decades, and I didn't
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play, but like I wouldn't, Iwouldn't on two days or anything
like that, because that wasbefore my time yeah but it was a
really big deal to play thereand that coach that was there
before ended up leaving becausehe, like he had like a second
family, like a secret secondfamily or something that's cool.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You know it's fun yeah, he was like dream life
grades and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So by the time I get to ninth grade we have a new
coach and for varsity and sameyou could swear it's alright,
same shit.
No, it's.
I thought it was Chad.
Never, it's not chatting, butit's a dang it.
His name's coach nibblet, yeah,either way.
(08:31):
Yeah, his brother.
His brother was officecoordinator, okay, and he came
in, and I guess this is wherethe success parts comes in yeah,
because, even though I reallywasn't getting playing time,
everything he preached was justabout doing the right thing at
all times and being the bestChristian guy that you can be.
And everybody within thecollective team has a role and
(08:57):
everybody yeah if everybody doestheir job, no matter what,
you're going to be successful.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And I guess that's just kind of stuck with me all
this time.
And then dude we, my threeyears on varsity, we, we went to
state all three years.
Nice, we lost.
We lost twice but we won mysophomore year, which I, I think
I got, like it was either mysophomore junior year I got one
play, um, I was on like kickoffreturn team or something like
(09:31):
that, but I player.
So, but all three years, man, Ijust grinded until um.
I was just really trying to geta starting spot by my senior
year and it never reallyhappened.
But yeah uh, I really went forit, you know so it's.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
It's interesting, you know how.
So I was good in soccer, wherewe were like around here like it
was football, basketball,soccer, and then there, you know
I think other people were likeno, it's track or tennis, but
that's kind of what it was in myarea.
But I played soccer, my brotherplayed soccer and I was better
at that where we both wrestled,he was better at wrestling, so
(10:07):
it was kind of like you'retalking about these paths Like I
kind of found a way to allowwrestling to help my soccer,
because I was no good, I mean, Iwas.
I was in a position where I wasweighing more than I can handle
as far as the muscle, and justlike football, I mean you, you
grow at a certain spurt andwhether you had the mentality or
strength to do it, you start tokind of, am I going to do this?
(10:29):
This kind of sucks?
I don't know how long I'm goingto be able to do this.
You know my grades weren't goodeither, so I definitely wasn't
striving for any scholarshipscoming up, that's for sure,
cause I liked hanging out atpallet parties and, and you know
, doing the fun stuff where Iwasn't, I was dedicated to fun
stuff, not dedicated to sports.
But, man, I'll tell you whatsome of these kids, knowing the
(10:50):
state that you come from infootball and just competition
like that, to like those kids,have to eat and breathe and
sleep that stuff in order to besuccessful.
I mean your coach, that coachthat you were talking about that
hit the nail on the head thatyou, you everyone, has a job and
it's just anywhere else.
Everyone has a job.
You perform that job.
It makes your day go that mucheasier because things flow
(11:11):
easier, right?
So it's it's interesting that ittook that long to run into that
type of coach.
I mean, I'm sure every coachhas that like meaning behind
what they're doing, but forsomeone to be able to finally
put it out there it's almostlike an aha moment just in life
in general, like, oh, all yougot to do is just my part.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Okay, all right, this makes sense and do it to the
best of your ability.
Yeah, that's, that was thething that you know.
You, if you, if you werefighting every day and doing
your job to the best of yourability, you're giving yourself
a chance to be successful, andit's not going to happen every
time.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Were you getting and I talked about my grades, I
don't know what yours were like,but were you getting like
offers from schools saying, hey,we want you to come, but you
got to bring your GPA up, oranything like that, or no, no?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I had a pretty decent You'd be, I mean I'd like.
I think I had like a three.
I think I had like a three,four or five.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
We were.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Not necessarily, dude .
I got to college and I don'teven I don't know if I broke a
2.0 in college, but man, no, Igot.
I got a.
Um, I had one footballscholarship that was like an
athletic scholarship.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
To like a in a in a I a school Yup, Yup, Uh.
In Montgomery, and I didn'tlike the vibe at all they told
me I was going to get a certainamount of money and then they
changed the last minute becauseI waited till Signing day.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Payton switch.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, I wasn't.
But there's this place calledMississippi college that I sent
them to and it was all practicefilms, so I'm sure they were
really laughing at it when whenthey got it, yeah, but, um,
whatever, I had a buddy when I,when I was a sophomore, we had a
senior linebacker named LandonMoore who really had a big
(12:57):
influence on me just as a as adude and as a good person, and I
used to I would just hit him uplike hey man, do you like going
to this place, you like playingball here?
And it's like dude, yeah, Ilove it, I'm having a great time
, yeah, and uh, I justeventually kind of followed him
and went and played footballthere and they didn't, so that
it it was division three.
(13:19):
So they didn't give out, uh,athletic scholarships, sure, so
they were giving out what youcall a leadership scholarship,
which is an academic scholarshipfor athletes.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So it matters.
It matters man, it's money.
Yeah, that's whatever loopholeswork.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I guess that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
What school is that at again?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It's called Mississippi college.
Okay, it's in, uh, clinton,clinton, mississippi.
Um, it's a very, very strictChristian school.
Okay, I feel like as aChristian as a more of a
Christian now than I was I wouldenjoy it now, but I don't think
(14:02):
I was ready for it at the time.
Yeah, so I did some really dumbstuff, man.
You know you're growing up.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You're growing up, dude.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I party like four or five days a week, dude, just hey
, where are we drinking tonight?
Yeah, cool, all right, notproud of it, hey, whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And we talk about it all the time on here.
I mean you guys are 17, 18, youknow maybe a couple or 19 here
and there, but like you'reexpected to make a four or five
year decision that lines up therest of your life Like what.
I don't even know that my kidwould take out the trash at the
time if I tell them to right now.
Yeah, and so it's a lot, it's athere's a lot of weight on that.
So when you got there, how Imean, obviously you said you
(14:41):
were kind of drinking and stufflike that.
But I mean, were you able tomaintain like it, like it just
kind of like, nope, not to, it'snot a test today.
I'm not going, man, I'm notgoing to lecture, I'm not doing
that.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No, Dude, I didn't show up.
I didn't show up to class, bro,like I took a guitar class and
I failed because I didn't showup and look what you're doing
now.
Yeah, I know that irony, right,right.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You're nailing it.
You're nailing it.
Well, okay.
So you, when you got intocollege, then like, obviously
it's a struggle.
We see guys that are, that arehigh level NCAA.
You know wrestlers thatstruggled, almost didn't finish
your college careers, you know.
So I mean, it doesn't matterwhich direction or which place
you go to, it's still it doesn'tmatter, it's still a struggle
in life.
So how did you find your wayback and kind of slowly got back
(15:27):
into things, or how did you?
Did you end up dropping out ofcollege?
What happened?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Um, um, let's see my path was I?
I was a freshman in sophomoreplaying football, and that is,
that is a full time job.
Yeah, and I don't care whatanybody says, Like this whole
pay your athletes thing incollege, I'm okay with it
(15:52):
because they were giving theirentire life to it.
Yeah, correct, um, but man, myfirst year I didn't get.
I got I actually made the liketravel squad and I went and uh,
I might have been at worst thirdstring, maybe at best second
string, Got some special teamsplay time and uh, got our butts
(16:18):
whooped just about everySaturday, like I'm talking,
maybe there was like three gameswhere we got to be like 74 to
like 13.
Man, and they're just.
I'm just like can I get in now?
You have nothing else to lose,right?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Right Nothing at all Nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
No, there's.
I mean what it?
I'm sorry You're going to go upto 80 points now.
Yeah, like just because you putme in Right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So, now now I'll play time, but you still put the
work in right.
I mean because he kind of hadnew.
You had a, you had a role toplay, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, for sure.
And uh, just coming from asuccessful program like Hoover
and and going into that was kindof like a and it wasn't like I
don't think it was a coach'sfault, because he was a great
man, yeah, and he expectedstandards from us that I just
think the culture wasn't readyto try to meet there.
You know, yeah, our coacheswere all cool.
(17:16):
One of them even used to workfor saving and he's probably
doing things now.
But, yeah, I learned a lotabout like the schematics of
football there and I reallytried my best, because what I
love about football is that it'slike a it is a full-on chess
match but flying bodieseverywhere.
(17:37):
You know, like that's what Ilove it, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Right, yeah, for sure .
Speaker 2 (17:43):
But I guess, getting back to what got me out of that
was, uh, I guess after mysophomore year I'd worked so
hard that I'd gotten up to likesecond string and all these new
recruits came in and they weregood and uh, I'd worked up and
all of a sudden it just, uh, Ithink I ended up on third string
(18:06):
before we started the seasonand I lost like a starting spot
on special teams.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Really, it was like I don't care anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
So I started partying even more than I was before and
I never got anything hard ornothing.
It was just drinking way toomuch.
And one night, me and my buddyI won't name them, but uh, we
were coming back from a partyingand he was throwing up.
Uh he had, uh, he had tried thedevil's lettuce and he was
(18:40):
drinking that night too, so hewas throwing up and I felt, fine
, I shouldn't have been driving.
But uh, we stopped at a wafflehouse one mile away from campus.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And, uh, I was like, hey, let's swap.
Um, so I took the wheel and Idon't, I don't know, I just
didn't have my lights on.
It was well lit street.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I got pulled over and my heart just like sank and I
Was in jail for like 14 hoursfor DUI and Lucky.
I had to wait for that guy tocome down me out, which was
awesome, and I he's still one ofmy best friends today.
Yeah, it was just a bad nightand he came and got me and I
(19:32):
tried to keep it quiet for likea week, yeah, and Nobody.
I guess some of my teammatesmight have heard and stuff like
that.
Maybe a couple days later, butlike three or four guys from the
team went and stole somebicycles from Walmart or
something.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I remember going in and into our team meeting man,
and everybody's just likelooking at me, like Looking at
me with eyebrows up, just likethey know.
How do you all know this?
They were like you know, thepolice department came to coach
(20:15):
Jones and said man, you know wehad a problem, this is the
fourth player We've arrestedthis week.
And they were like you arrestedthe three guys, who's the
fourth one?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Oh, that sucks.
Yeah that's so.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Hey, called me into that that my head coach called
Because Joseph was his name.
He called me into his office.
It was like Son, you're reallynot getting a whole lot of
playing time as it is right now.
Nothing's really gonna change,man, you're just definitely not
gonna play now.
So If you wouldn't have kept itfrom me and maybe worked it all
(20:53):
out, and been fine.
But so then I started taking ita little bit further and still
drank more and more and more.
Yeah and there was a point whereI just was like, man, I Don't
want to do, I don't want to goback, yeah, this isn't fun
anymore, right, and I Think Ifinished.
(21:17):
I finished out the season,mm-hmm, and I've worked.
I've worked out a lot and I wastrying to get in good shape and
I just didn't.
But it wasn't to be in football.
This is just trying to loseweight and date girls and yeah,
look good.
Yeah, look good.
Yeah, and I Just didn't show upfor spring training.
I just didn't even tell themanything, I didn't say I wasn't
(21:40):
coming back, I just didn't showup and yeah.
I knew by the next semester Iwanted to leave and I thought
about wanting to coach.
Okay, cuz my career wasn'tgoing anywhere.
I wasn't At this point.
I was just playing football forfun, yeah, yeah, at a private
Christian college, and it wascosting me a lot of money.
(22:01):
I decided I wanted to.
I wanted to apply to Auburn andI didn't get in.
Yeah, and I was like man, whatdo I do now, cuz my GPA is so
bad that I can't even get intoAuburn?
And I Think about South Alabamaand one of their, one of their
(22:25):
defense the defense coordinatoron the football team at South
Alabama the previous year wasone of my coaches at Hoover.
Okay, so I was like maybe Ihave a chance in coaching.
Yeah so I show up or I callSouth and I'm like, hey, what do
I need to do to be a like agraduate assistant or something,
or like a coaches assistant orsomething, so that I can Work my
(22:50):
way in?
Yeah, for sure, like you should.
Uh, well, we don't have any ofthe spots available right now,
but if you join the equipmentstaff, I Can work you up.
Maybe you can work your way up,dude.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I Don't want to check in.
Shoulder pads man, that's stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
No, it's so much worse than that dude, so much
worse and I'll get to that.
But, like after oh Three, I dida whole semester of getting up
it for am Driving over to mobilebecause I live in the Biloxi
with my dad, so it's like anhour drive every day and that so
(23:34):
I wanted it.
I was like I don't see anyavenue in football anymore, so I
need to.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Really want to be a great coach.
I don't know how far I want totake it, but I really feel like
I could be good at it.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I've always felt like I wanted to be great at
something and I've granted mybutt off and I went there every
day, showed up on time and myjob was to like wash stock
straps, set up drills, put allthe clothes back, take a bunch
of crap from coaches from notsetting drills upright.
(24:09):
Damn, drew a day.
Yeah, yeah, I have one that Istill hate now and I won't say
his name.
Yeah, just not a good dude Atall.
Um, but I did a year of thatand they were like, oh, let me
give you a scholarship.
And I kept I Would try to havemeetings with their head coach
(24:31):
and you'd be like, yeah, youknow, we'll consider you for for
Student assistant work orwhatever.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, never happens.
But by the end of the firstyear I met these dudes and I'm a
student named Turner who I wasworking with at the football
team.
Yeah, and he introduced me tothis guy named Brandon who is
star league singer Yep, he and.
And then he and then Turnerneed a guy that played bass and
(25:04):
love playing bass, and his namesAndy.
And that's how I met Andy.
Okay, yeah, so started thisfirst band and we got so busy
with that first band.
I think maybe a Year and a halflater is when we had broken up
that first band, but we startedthe second band.
(25:25):
We got so busy where I justJust quick go into school.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Well, what was that first band's name?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It was called the Coleman Mason band.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Nice, that's actually not a bad name.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, so it was Brandon Coleman and Turner Mason
.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, I can handle that that'sI can.
It's marketable, it'smarketable, yeah.
So so you start, you start yourtransition into what we'll call
music land for now.
But what, when you're kind ofyou're going through that grind
of you know, getting kickedaround and told to go wash jocks
and stuff like that, which Ithink is just absolutely
(26:00):
horrible, horrible.
But yeah, when you're goingthrough that process?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
that's not real bad.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Were you playing music in the interim here, where
I mean, when did this?
When did playing a guitar start?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I would say, when Turner was like hey, I got this
dude that I Think he has areally great voice.
Yeah, then we're gonna start aband.
Do you want to book and manageus?
Oh, and I was just.
I was kind of hesitant, but Iwas just like sure.
Yeah but then, like I Went over,they had like a little jam
(26:40):
session at Turner's house, okay,and I heard Brandon sing for
the first time.
Yep, I was like good God,almighty, okay, I'm gonna do
everything I can for this guy.
Yeah, I would sit in theequipment office and I would put
post-it notes just Maybe 30 or40 post-it notes up in the
(27:04):
section where there's like justalready notes and stuff.
I could just numbers emails ofevery venue that was around
mobile.
Yeah like Florida, where we'reat in Mississippi Gulf Coast,
just like right there, and Iwould call and call, and call
and call, until just somebodysaid yes.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I Guess, maybe six months into that I figured
Somehow I Got my heart broke orsomething.
Yeah, yeah, so my girlfriendbroke up with me and I just
started writing songs.
Yeah, I don't know why, it wasjust like a blue song.
That was really bad.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But I'd say it's 2020 they were like.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
They were like yeah, that's good man.
It was like maybe maybe this is, maybe this is it for me.
You know, maybe I've gotsomething.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, no, I just started picking up the guitar
then, which I guess makes itabout seven years ago.
Yeah, and I've been justlearning ever since.
But so that was why?
Because I wanted the right song.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well, you got you.
So you started kind of hangingout with these guys that are
part of the band as far in thesports Is where it all came
together, because you guys arein an equipment room kind of
hanging out right.
So, as you guys started todevelop as because you said, you
started the one band and wentinto another band what was the
reason for transitioning to thatother band?
Was it just because one guydidn't have the time to do
(28:30):
something, so it was just two ofyou left, or three you left,
and it didn't feel right, notwith that one guy.
So we're gonna start somethingdifferent.
How did that all transition?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Oh, oh, start with this.
We had to start that first band.
We had a 64 year old drummer,nice, and we and him ended up
not getting along at all.
Okay, I hate that because itmight have been my fault, might
have not been sure.
(29:00):
Ray, if you hear this, I doapologize.
Yeah, maybe he won't, I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, but we'll see if I get a phone call it you
know.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, great shoulders man.
So me and him just got into it.
At the end he was like Don'tworry about me, I'm done.
And so we needed a drummer andGosh, we were maybe six months
(29:30):
away from breaking up, but we,because things were just not
going well.
There was one dude in there,and I won't say who it was.
It was just consistentlytalking crap about everybody
else.
Wow, and yeah, man, just liketalking crap about other people
to the other, like just like hey, this, hey, this dude, I don't
(29:53):
like his tone, I don't like histone at all, I don't like it.
Wow.
And then he would talk tosomebody else like hey, this
dude's an idiot.
And then like wow, just didn'tstop, just not, not cool, that's
cancer.
Liar lies Cancer.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
So, anyway, going back to, we were putting feelers
out for a term and we had trieda couple of people out and they
were okay.
But John walks in and he's himand Andy hit the first note
together and I swear to God, Iwas just like, all right, this
is our guy, it has to be our guy, dude.
(30:30):
Like it was just like boomtogether.
It was like, and ever sincethen it's just like they are
locked man.
That's one of my favoritethings about our band.
Is that how they can?
John can hit like a random drumkit or something, yeah, and
they have this.
Andy should like boom, youcan't fool me, or John will go
(30:52):
pop off and he'll be right therewith me.
It's the most weirdsynchronicity I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
So you guys, you guys gel.
Well, man, I mean, likelistening to you guys play, it
sounds like you guys have beenplaying for like years Like I'm
talking decades, you know,because, like I said, I like
that.
There's a sound that I likewhen it comes to the older style
of country that you guys havekept up with.
So listening to these storiesabout how these guys are just
clicking, I mean you can tellwhen you guys are playing all
(31:20):
the time you can always tell oh,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, we're definitely rusty when we haven't
been playing for a while.
Um, not lately, it's been nice.
But I guess that that change,that transition, started
happening when.
So John's been playing a bandsince he was 10 years old, like
M bars, his dad, his dad's, likea mobile legend he played
(31:43):
guitar for.
Oh wow, when a man loves awoman.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, that, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
That guy I feel like an idiot.
I'm not saying.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I won't get it either .
Oh, no, okay, anyway, yeah, buthe would play guitar for him
and said John's just growing upin bands and John had all these
ideas of things that we shouldchange.
And we had two guitar playersin our band, yeah, and they were
like he can shove, he can shovehis experience of his ass, yeah
(32:18):
, yeah.
And me being like I want to bebetter, like I always want to be
better, I want to be the bestthat I can be, yeah, and
Brandon's same way and Andy wasthe same way.
And we are already.
The three of us were alreadykind of not getting along With
the other two and John was likeman, let's just give it like one
(32:39):
more year.
Sure, sure.
We were like dude, we don'thave one more year left to give
them.
We have to, we have to cut itnow.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And I felt bad too, because Turner was like my first
best friend at South Alabama.
Okay, yeah, that's right, um itjust, uh, he, uh just people
change man.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Like you change.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You, when you go through and just listen to, like
, talking to high school kids,to college kids, to you know,
coaches, I mean we all, you all,like, even now I'm 45, like I'm
, I'll be different in fiveyears, I'll have a different
opinion of something, but that'sthat's us as human beings.
You know, like, whether it'sgood or bad to us, people are
going to change in a directionyou just aren't aware of.
(33:23):
You know, until now, you knowsitting back and talking about
it, like you know I was, I waslike this, but he was like this.
So we got along.
We all change and evolved in adifferent way.
And it hurts when you're doingbusiness or like they're trying
to do something.
That's like a business becausea band I mean, that's you're
having fun, but you still got tobe able to be successful enough
to want to keep going.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
You know, and if you guys aren't enjoying it together
, it's hard to enjoy it.
You know it's it's thatseparation part so but yeah, man
it's that direction seems likeit wasn't necessarily a like
cause.
I, you know.
You can hear you saying youknow, sorry if this happened.
It didn't seem like it wasmeant to be, but the way that it
happened wasn't the way it wassupposed to happen.
(34:04):
You know, it just kind of wentjust a weird way which should
happen.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, you know yeah, dude, yeah, and what I, what I,
you know, and I still wasn'teven a part of the band yet.
I was just still mad, as youcan book.
And so, yeah, I guess we'resitting in Brandon's living room
and and his and his house onColeman Hill and he's like, well
, what do we do now?
(34:27):
And we were like I don't know,we got to come up with a new
name or something and start thisnew band.
And we were like, okay, well,like we need a guitar player.
And I was like, yeah, I wonderwho we could get.
So John, john's brother.
He passed away a few years ago.
His name is Jacob.
(34:48):
He recommended Zach and we hadtried a couple of guitar players
out and they were okay, and theexact thing, man, and it was
that same synchronicity.
He was just hitting it withAndy and John together just
grooving, and it was like yeah,this is the guy man, we were all
just in there.
(35:09):
You know it was that Andy'sparents house where he tried out
at, and that was the firstiteration of the strays and I
got us booking shows and movingas hard as we could, because the
goal is to try to get in frontof as many people as you can.
You know you got something likethat and I mean we were playing
(35:31):
for gosh 400 bucks for fourhours, which is not even.
That's a little different now.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I hope so.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
We did it for a while .
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Oh yeah, we did it for a while.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That's the grind we always hear about.
Uses.
Regular Joe blows that don'tknow about that.
That's the grind we hear about.
You guys you pay your dues, yougo out and play dirty bar halls
and stuff, but a lot of timesyou hear that those are some of
the most memorable.
You know the most fun nightsthat you guys try to lay down.
You know any type of good music, or when you're guys are out
(36:09):
just trying to do your best.
Those are usually the nightsthat you guys are the most.
It's just that gritty, weirdkind of environment, but that's
what I will be like.
So my grandpa ran a bar and hehad little bands come out and
stuff like that too, and I lovelistening to bands live, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I can't, obviously I can't.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I can't have you guysplay in my backyard every day
and I can't invite LeonardScannard and all those guys come
over and play in my backyard.
So I still have to listen to,you know, spotify or whatever I
have.
But if I can catch people live,especially bands that I like,
hands down I'm going to go see alive every time.
But I haven't been opening mymind to new music as far as you
(36:47):
know, like I would say, from mytwenties on, I kind of stayed
pretty close minded.
I didn't listen to stuff.
How does that work with, likeyou guys, when you guys are
sitting around jamming andtrying to write music Because
again, we talked about howeverybody's different.
Well, how do you guys put musictogether when you guys are, you
know, your first meet andyou're sitting down you finally
got this guitar guy.
How do you guys gel togetherand try to like either write a
(37:09):
song together Do you guys keepthat?
No, he's good at it, we'll lethim do that part and then I'll
do this part.
You know this portion of it ordo you guys kind of band
together with with songs, Iguess?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Um man, how it really started was that I've gotten a
lot better as a writer by then.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
So I was trying to write all the time, uh, trying
to get better at it and readmore, which I didn't read that
much anyway.
But just learn up on literature.
You know what certain thingswork.
And like, um, I don't know, Iwould just come up with a chord
structure so that would you know, like a CD or something.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I would play it and I would do it and I would present
it and play it for the band.
Now, I couldn't play and singat the same time, so I would
have to like get somebody elseto play.
I would show the chords tosomebody else and play, yeah
yeah, dude's coordination.
Man, it's not easy, I couldn't,I didn't do it and I would.
I showed it.
(38:14):
I would show it to like Brandonand have him play it or sing it
, yeah.
Just how the words work.
And that was just me chippingmy songs off to the band, Cause
that's that was what I couldcontribute at the time.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Right, right.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
And we, how?
Coming together and making asong.
Where is you hear the groove?
You hear the?
Okay?
Well, I have space right here Ican make like a counter melodic
thing.
That would be tasteful.
Yeah, it's just like adding anextra voice in there, but it's
your instrument, you know thisright on.
(38:52):
So like this beat would work onthis song, because you have
this meter.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, yep, yep, exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I got you, so it's like yeah, yup.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
All the way through Yup.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah.
Or you hear like a part thatbreaks up Hit, like a hit, a
symbol there, yup, you know itjust.
Uh, I don't know, we just hearit on our heads.
We're like music,schizophrenics, it just it just
comes to us and it's a.
It's really.
It is one of the blessings Ithank God for the most every day
(39:32):
, for real.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
So it's a unique sound, like I told you that I
could hear like four different,like so, in in his voice alone I
can hear um, uh, god, of courseNow I'm thinking again the
whole thinking of names thing Um, what, uh, oh shit, no, no, no,
(39:55):
no, no, it's not even country,it's not even country.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Uh, all right.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Now I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to pause
on that, because that's a yousaid Pearl Jam, so I'm thinking
better.
Yeah, no, because better is notthat not better, is not that
high pitched?
Yeah, it's uh no, he's not.
Oh, I feel like such a moronbecause I had this for so long
in my head.
Um, I told my wife about it,mm-mm.
Now I get an album texted toyou, but there's then, but then,
(40:23):
like listening to a portionlike of your guitar, I hear a
whale and Jennings song, youknow, so I can.
I hear all these differentpieces within your band.
So that's kind of what's weirdabout me.
When I listen to music, I candivide out, I can pull the drums
out and kind of listen to justthe drums, and then I can also
listen to the bass.
And you guys probably get usedto that, you know, when you're
(40:44):
listening to music, becauseyou're trying to piece things
together Sometimes if new songyou guys are trying out or
something that someone you know?
do you guys play cover songs?
You gotta write.
Have some fun with it, right?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Uh, dude, we used to do four to five hours worth of
coverage.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Nice, we can.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We're not.
We don't do them true at alltoo.
We have made our own versionsof those songs.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Perfect, Then that's the best part.
So, like you guys are listeningto songs, you gotta be able to
pull little things out.
So, like that's I stood when Iwas started listening to you
guys which was oh, I don't know,maybe a month ago, before I
messaged you, was like a coupleof weeks I was like man, these
guys are like this is uniqueagain where it's not the same
pop country that's on the radio.
So I just started listeningover and over and I started
(41:27):
pulling tunes out and listeningto different, different portions
that you play.
Versus what Brandon singing,you know things like that.
It just it's so different to meas far as what's out there
right now and I I like that kindof stuff with.
When it's different, you know,like when you listen to Sturgill
Simpson who out in countrymusic singing about MDMA right,
(41:48):
I mean nobody talking abouttrippy, trippy stuff, but either
way he's, he's makes sense whenhe's singing and it's good
music, it's fun, yeah.
So when you guys are playing ata venue and you guys had gotten
to like your first venue, likewhat, what were some of the?
What were some of the thingsyou guys went through as a young
band?
Like, were you guys settingyour own stuff up.
Did you say no, we got to havesomeone along to be able to set
(42:09):
everything up.
Like how, how did that go?
Was just like let's go out.
We got to do this.
You don't have time for thatstuff.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Oh, we're definitely setting our own stuff up still.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I mean, if you want to be a local band, you have to
have your own sound system.
Okay, 50% of the time theymight have their own sound
system, which is dope, and somebut some idiot like me running
(42:41):
sound just to get everythingright before the show so that I
can go up on stage and yeah, nowworry about it.
Maybe it sounds good.
You got to pray, it sounds good, but I already forgot the
question.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
How did you guys do you?
Guys are obviously setting somestuff up.
You know, as far as your yourgear, yeah, but like how nuts
was it when you were, when youguys really first started out at
like your first venues, whereyou guys constantly like, oh
crap, we don't have this, weforgot this to to plug in or
whatever Cause there's.
I'm doing a podcast, there's alot of shit for this, like I'm
(43:15):
telling you, yeah.
And then now to imagine all youguys hook at your stuff up like
what were some of the headachesyou went through, as like a
young band, like what are somefunny stories.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Oh man, oh, that's so long ago now.
I can't really remember.
I just know that dude every,every single load in and was a
workout like okay, so like thespeakers they're dead gum the
(43:47):
size of a drawer or something,and like you got to pick those
up and put them on big oldstands and yeah.
Yeah, you got to watch forfeedback issues and, man, if I
had any good sound tech storiesI'd I'll tell you, but I can't
really think of any from backthen.
I just know that we just thatthat was the true grind, and we,
(44:11):
I mean gosh, we play four orfive days a week, so and we
would just try to.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
I mean, did you guys, did anybody ever forget an
instrument you had to go without?
Anything like that.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Uh, you can't go without an instrument.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
No, no, you guys didn't improvise like that.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
No no man.
Oh, Andy has definitelyforgotten his bass before Nice.
That is the most forgetful sonof a gun.
I know.
I don't know when and where,but he has forgotten his bass
more than one occasion.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
So I have a question about some of the different
venues you guys have played, solike I've only seen.
Well, I only watched likedevils in my brain at the.
I can't remember what countycounty fair it was.
It wasn't even a county fair.
I got to go back here in acouple of.
It might even play if I go backto.
Yeah, there it is.
No, you guys are at Laurel CoveMusic Festival.
(45:06):
Oh that's the only one, that'sthe only version I'll listen to.
Like to me that one, like itsounds just like it's being
played like right in a bar, likeyou guys are right in the
corner of a bar but you're outin a big field, you know, and
that's what I love about some ofthe music that comes out
sometimes.
So, some of these venues thatyou guys have played, what are
some of the like what was yourfavorite so far that you guys
(45:27):
have played since this allreally started coming together?
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Favorite venue.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Gosh, I'll give you a local favorite.
Yeah, we have one calledCowhands and Mobile.
That is like a staple, for Iguess you would call us within
the American of AIM.
Okay, yeah, it's a staple forus people.
The guy that runs it, his nameis JT.
(45:58):
It's one of the best people Iknow.
Don't tell him.
I said that.
He's just a good, good humanbeing.
He takes care of his bands, hegoes above and beyond, made my
wife for hopefully playing therenext week, so that's right.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, you guys play together as well, so you are not
by any means like hanging outand just you know.
Whatever you know, we're goingto hang out for three weeks and
do nothing.
You do also perform with yourwife as well.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
I haven't had three weeks to hang out here in over a
year.
That's why I appreciate thistime.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
That's why I totally appreciate this time, because I
know how crammed it gets for youguys, because it's not easy,
you know I mean.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
But no, you found a way.
Yeah, we played.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, you found a way to be able to play with your
wall.
Has she always been doing musiclike all her life, or did she
jump into it later, like you did?
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Uh, I'd say she's been doing it for 10 or 11 years
, nice, so she's been playingaround.
Um, she started.
I think her first gig was atlike Uh, on the causeway
somewhere, I can't remember thename, but was that by yourself?
But yeah, nice.
So she's just.
(47:13):
She's been doing her thing fora long time.
She makes great music and it'sbeautiful.
It has a beautiful voice.
Yeah, very soothing, good, goodtunes, great writing.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Nice, she writes her own songs Um yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Awesome you should go listen to it, man.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
It's good stuff.
It's it's not.
Every song on that record isalmost a different genre, so
it's, it's a pretty cool andit's again.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I listen.
You've you're listened to thelist of plays, things that are
people that I listened to.
I mean it goes from Tupac to to.
I listened to some growth books, to the.
There's a whole list of musicthat I listened to.
It's uh, you'd be surprised atwhat's blaring out of my, my car
, when I pull up.
But so, as you guys now likewhere you're at, how long do you
(48:00):
guys plan on going?
You guys plan to do thisforever, cause I mean I hope so.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, I want to be like the rolling sides man.
Okay, okay I want to go tillI'm dead.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Till you're dead Okay .
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I'm dead.
What, what is that?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
What, what is that?
What does that path look like?
Do you guys want to play?
Are you looking to get bigCause?
Now you listen to OliverAnthony, right Like.
Doesn't want the $8 milliondeal, doesn't want to deal with
that garbage, wants to playmusic Cause.
That kind of where you guys areat too.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I don't, yeah, I don't care about.
I care about money, but I cancome by money on my own If, if
I'm successful in music.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
I don't.
I don't want to deal like thosedudes are just trying to pull
your strings and tell you whatto do.
They're just waving all thatmoney in your face just so that
they can basically own you.
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, all itis, it's alone.
And now they're.
They're sweetening the dealswhen they're seeing artists like
Oliver Anthony out there justabsolutely crushing it.
(49:01):
But they still own you.
Yeah, and they own your, yourmusic, they own your songs.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
And I'm just not at a point like we've already had,
we did a record deal.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, and it was a small label deal but it was a
typical three, six, yeah, Idon't know if it was in 360 deal
, but they ended up owning ourcrap, move, and we knew what we
were getting into.
So like.
But like you figure, if they'reowning all your stuff, that
they would want to push itharder and they would want you
to go back into the studio.
Yeah, and make more care, yeah,uh, and granted, it was COVID,
(49:35):
but we just, I don't know I theywant you to make a record, but
they, they, they, they're notgoing to put a record out, right
?
They they're very picky aboutthe songs and we like what we
make.
So we got off that label andmade our own.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
So I don't care about money, I just want to make my
art and reach people, as manypeople as I can Well and you
guys had the advantage of theSpotify thing and the YouTube
thing, where you guys can do Imean, obviously it doesn't,
money doesn't start pouring in,you know what I'm saying, but
you get the attention you'relooking for as people who want
(50:12):
to listen to your music.
You know that's, that's really.
I mean, obviously, like yousaid, you still money matters.
You got to pay bills, right, Imean, you still got a, a home,
you got to pay for family, gotto support things like that.
But at the same point though,too, like you said, these guys
they take, they take your songs,they own them.
Then you can.
And then the ones that you wantto put out they don't even want
to put the ones you want to putout, because the doesn't sound
(50:33):
good to them, you know causethey know the market so well,
it's not a hit.
Yeah, you catch those guys.
I'll you know and I'll behonest with you.
I wish I could have producedsome music, because I seem to
pick when albums come out, andI'm not bragging, I'm not
patting my back here, but I seemto be able to pick like that.
That one's going to be on theradio right there, that one's
going to be on the radio, I bet,cause I'm listening.
(50:54):
I'm like, oh man, this is thisone hits, you know, but not
every single time.
And you're like, why isn't thatone song out?
Why aren't they putting thatout?
Then you don't get yes, exactlythe money, money, you know.
So it's just like, oh God,these guys act like they know
what they're listening to, butthey really don't, you know so.
I love it.
I love what you guys are doing,man, and we've been going for
(51:15):
almost an hour here.
So, like I told you, it'susually by an hour, hour and a
half, some guys three hours, andsome of those guys, man, they
have they have just talked andtalking to storytellers, and
that's why we're here.
We're here to tell stories andkind of hang out and show the
venture that you guys have inthe vision that you guys have
and what you want to do.
So you guys love playing musicand I that's the part that I
(51:37):
love, because the moment I heardyou guys kind of put out there
the we're not going to releasethis, you guys come and watch it
live I was like, yup, I likethat, right there, that's,
that's my kind of shit.
So that kind of drew me in moreand I started watching more of
what you guys are doing andwatching that live AF.
I know what that is, but eitherway, that was some good shit.
(51:58):
You know that was good stuff.
Yeah, exactly, it's put seethat.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
That's the thing they do a fantastic job.
Yeah, they're very good.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
So I'd like to do a live AF in my backyard, which I
think would be a really greatidea, because I'm.
I'm so we're.
We got some things that we'regoing to be doing in the
backyard.
I'll tell you about that.
Maybe you guys will hop on overand we can do a little jam
together some sometime, becauselike I said.
I kind of got in music a littlebit, but but when you guys
aren't, so I'm going to cut thisoff a little bit here.
(52:28):
Man, I'm going to start my mylittle music gig here so we can
get you going, because you gotto leave for a flight in the
morning.
Where are you headed to?
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Uh, Maryland.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
That's right.
Yeah, maryland, where I don'tknow where, where in Maryland,
you don't know where?
Let me see, that's crazy.
I don't know where I'm going.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
We're flying.
We're flying into, uh, flyinginto, baltimore.
Okay, careful, we're playing atthe Frederick the great
Frederick fair in Maryland, nice, which is Frederick, frederick
County, maryland, somewhere.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Well, I hope someone that's in charge of your
Instagram or YouTube or whateverput something out, because I
definitely want to see it.
Um, can you tell me or do youguys?
Here's an interesting questionDo you guys have the same set
list every night?
Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Um, if we're in like a string of shows and we're
tired and just don't feel likemessing with it because we think
it's a good thing for them, uh,we'll keep one for like a
string of shows, okay, and if weget tired of it, we'll.
We'll swap some stuff around,okay.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
So no, but kind of you know what I mean, and
sometimes it with some bands andmatters, but with you guys it
seems like a one cause you guysthrow so much different flavor
into things whenever you play.
It's just, it's always fun towatch every single time.
So, with that being said, manDrew Nix of the red clay strays
dude, I really appreciate youbeing on here with me.
Man, yeah, it's been awesome.
I'm going to talk to you forjust a second, just like I do
(53:58):
with everybody, but I'm going tolet everybody else know we are
out.
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