Creator Spotlight: David Heringer (Infinity Con)

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SPEAKER_02 (00:12):
This is the Way For It Podcast.

SPEAKER_05 (00:16):
Hey everyone, welcome back to the Way for It
Podcast.
I am your co-host, Phil Barrera,aka Phil the Filipino.

SPEAKER_04 (00:21):
And I'm your other co-host, Mr.
Eric Almighty, and for thisedition of Creator Spotlight, to
wrap us up for the series forthe year, we're gonna be talking
about a great partnership thatwe have with a local convention
here in Florida calledInfinityCon.
And Phil, I'm very excited totalk about this one.
This one is a long time coming.

SPEAKER_05 (00:42):
Yeah, I attended this show for the first time in
2024.
And uh through our friend Corey,who is like our anchor being for
a lot of people, introducing usto so many wonderful people in
this convention space here inFlorida, and we have been able
to uh uh help out withInfinityCon Tallahassee earlier
in the year, and we haveInfinityCon Gainesville right

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around the corner.
So, what better time to bring inthe man that puts it all
together doesn't sleep, Ibelieve.
I believe he's running onmultiple days here straight uh
being being awake.
David Herringer of InfinityCon.
David, it is so good to see you.
Thanks so much for taking thetime.
And how are you doing tonight?

SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
Yeah, no, it's good to see you guys.
Thank you for having me.
Um, I'm doing well, I'm doingwell, getting uh, like you said,
a lot uh moving parts, trying toput things together, a lot of
new vision for this year.
So uh so it's been good.
It's been a long time coming andstill a long way to go, but uh
but I'm excited.
Excited to have you guys be apart.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42):
So yeah, 100%.
And we are very excited for thisconversation to just kind of get
an idea of how all of thisworks.
I mean, we've been attendingconventions from a fan
standpoint for many, many years,and Eric and I have been very
fortunate enough over the lastfew years to kind of get an idea
of what goes on behind thescenes and the things that like

(02:02):
you wouldn't even think of wouldbecome an issue.
So very excited to bring thisconversation to our audience
today.
Uh, for any brand new orreturning listeners, make sure
you stick around to the very endof the episode.
We'll let you know we can findeverything Wait for it podcast
related.
But let's jump into it here,David.
If you want to just uh introduceyourself and what you've done
and also a little bit maybe ofthe history of InfinityCon.

SPEAKER_00 (02:26):
Yeah, uh, like I said, David Herringer.
Um I've been some sort ofbusiness pretty much most of my
life.
Um I I I've lived a lot oflives.
Uh I was in the band life.
I was a front man for a band,um, did some singer-songwriter
stuff.
And uh through that, rightaround probably 2010 or 2011, I
started working on a conceptalbum.

(02:46):
And through the concept album, Iwrote this big, I wrote the
concept.
And as I started working on theconcept, it was like this uh
nanotechnology future.
Um, gosh, it's been so longsince I've thought about it.
I'm trying to remember.
Um, but it was like indefinitelifespans, and you know, you
could, your, your consciousnesscould be transported.
That's kind of the travel wasthrough transporting your

(03:07):
consciousness through the starskind of thing.
And there were these nanobioticbody kind of things.
Anyway, so I was working onthese novels and stuff, and um
and well, I was working on themusic, and then my wife was
like, This is you know, this isgood.
You enjoy doing this, like this,it seems like maybe this is what
you enjoy doing, the writingside.
And uh, begrudgingly, becauseshe knows me, she's my best

(03:28):
friend, and she was she wasright.
And uh as I just kind of prayedabout it more, and I was like,
Okay, this is what I'm supposedto be working on.
And then as I as I kept moving,a friend of mine, I was doing
some, I was still kind of in themusic scene, and I was working
with this event called TheObjective up in Nashville, and
I'd been I've been doing it foryears.

(03:48):
The event itself was uh overlike four different campuses.
Um it was like four or fivedays, and it was like five, six
hundred indie musicians.
And um it was a lot of likethat's where I just cut my teeth
on doing events.
Like it was everything from thebackstage to getting speakers on
on time and you know, workingwith talent that you have to you

(04:09):
have to babysit and corral andand stay stand in this spot,
this ex right here.
Don't move, you know.
But do it nicely because if not,they don't want to come back.
But you know, learning that, butand also, you know, hey, this is
the venue setup, this is whatyou need for you know your green
room, and you know, so reallylearning all the ins and out of
like event setup and uh eventrunning.

(04:31):
And um the last few years I wasdoing that, I started going to
MegaCon.
So it was my it was back when umI believe Christine owned it,
original MegaCon days, aboutprobably 2011, 2012.
And uh I was going with mywriting stuff, and I really I
was like, man, just the how bigeverything was, like all the big
shirt t-shirt vendors and allthe things.

(04:53):
It was just like, man, this isso cool.
And um, and then I uh then Istarted just getting back to my
books.
So I was writing, that's why Iwas there.
I was learning about comic bookwriting, learning about that's
where I met Martin Piero, but Iwas learning about Mark comic
book writing and um just novelsand things like that from
different like people andartists and panels.

(05:13):
And uh I came back and my buddyRay Hancock, who is one of the
founders of the event um ofInfinityCon, he was helping me
with the thing and was doing apodcast at the time.
And he was like, hey, we werethinking about just doing a meet
and greet, but now we would liketo do like a mini-con in Lake
City where we're from.
And I'm like, it's too muchwork, don't do it.
Like, it's cool you want to doit, but uh, you know, I I just

(05:36):
don't have time.
It's a lot of work to run anevent.
Like, it's just not, it's it'snot something I'm gonna, okay,
man.
Well, that's cool.
So fast forward like six monthslater, you know, right into
2013, early 2014, he was like,hey man, like, you know, things
I we need some help.
Like, could you help?
And I'm like, yeah, becausewe've been again working
together.
And I'm like, sure, sure.
Like, I'll I'll help.

(05:56):
And um, so yeah, so the firstyear I helped, and man, I like
the way people came together,and you know, everything from I
go back to this this visual ofthis 45, 50-year-old guy, um,
maybe not even that old.
I'm I'm 46, so but there was anolder like dude in like a Harry

(06:17):
Potter robe.
And then there was this probablyseven-year-old in a Harry Potter
robe.
And there was just this momentwhere it was just like, you
know, she's with her parents orwhatever, and he's there and
they're like, Yeah, like HarryPotter, this is cool.
And it was just such a cool likemoment of like these families
coming together, these peoplecoming together because they
love Harry Potter, because theylove Dungeons and Dragons, um,

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or just because they found outabout this and they like any of
those things, like all thesethings seem to bring it, just
brings us together and kind ofcrosses all those divides, those
things divide us.
And since then I was hooked,like 2015, just kind of took it
from there, kept trying to growa venue in Lake City, which we
do not have.
And uh after two or three yearsof trying to do tents and

(07:01):
spending lots and lots of moneyand um trying out lots of
things, I I went into a fewdifferent venues and then
finally did Tallahassee.
So so yeah, so that's uh kind ofin a nutshell where where things
went.
Tallahassee has been kind of theanchor event.
And um now bringing, like youmentioned earlier, uh bringing

(07:22):
Gainesville back, uh, becauseit's only 30 minutes away.
It's it's really part of my townalmost.
Um, it's really close to LakeCity.
So that gives me the chance tobring something back for people
in the Lake City area, um, butto give them a venue that's like
worthy of what I want to bring.
So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (07:38):
Yeah, remember the days where you could just go to
a megacon and not feeloverwhelmed.
I remember wide open aisles,Eric.
I it's like imagining uh thewide open country, countryside
before you know a bunch ofcondominiums went up.
That's what MegaCon is now.
It's like it was like you couldwalk around freely.

(08:00):
It was nice.
I remember Eric, we used to playlike we would do scavenger hunts
at MegaCon.
That's how freely we were ableto move around.
Those days are long gone.

SPEAKER_04 (08:11):
That was uh that was a long, long time ago.
It does seem like in Florida allroads lead back to MegaCon for
people's first experience, whichactually kind of sets us up
nicely for kind of our firstquestion, which may seem simple
on the service, but uh surface.
But David, you and me havetalked a little bit about how
some people have their own ideaof what a convention is.

(08:32):
You know, that might includecelebrity guests and certain
things happening at aconvention.
For others, they have no ideawhat a convention is.
I think we're trying to findwhat's in the middle of that.
So, to if to put it in laymanterms, simple terms, for anyone
who doesn't know what type ofconvention InfinityCon is, how

(08:53):
would you describe that tosomebody who's right there in
the middle?
They know what a convention is.
Maybe they've gone to a megaconand that's their only
experience.
How would you describe your showto that audience?

SPEAKER_00 (09:05):
Yeah, so I'm gonna start out with my vision
statement, just because that'slike it in a nutshell, but it's
probably gonna need to kind ofbe unwrapped a little bit.
The vision is to create anever-expanding immersive
universe where fans of all kindsunite to shop, learn, be
entertained, and celebrate theirpassions, inspiring dreamers and
creators of all ages to embarkon unforgettable adventures

(09:28):
together.
And I think that's kind of it ina nutshell, like the inspiring
dreamers and creators of allages to embark on unforgettable
adventures together.
But I think that that's kind ofthe core of where InfinityCon
is.
Um, you know, we don't, youmentioned guests earlier.
We we do have creator guests, wedo have people that, you know,
um they focus on on artists orwriting or their comic book um

(09:52):
publishers, you know, like mybuddy Martin Piero.
But, you know, and thecosplayers that are doing these
crazy builds and these sets andthat, those are more of the kind
of creators and guests we bringin.
Not so much there's great consin Florida that do the guest
con, you know, you meet yourfavorite actor and you you do
the the guest thing.
That's just not where we we fitin.

(10:13):
So yeah, you know, uh we bringentertainment, we bring the
inspiration of having our kids'areas, having places where
anybody of any age can go andhey, I've been interested in
writing, you know, I've beeninterested in how do they make
that phone look like this?
And we've had people come to theshow that, you know, are 60, 70,

(10:33):
80-year-old people that are justlike in, they're just so
entranced by like how they dothis.
So then they'll go sit in someof these panels like and just
listen.
They may never build a cosplayin their whole life, or they
may, which would be great.
But a lot of them are just sointerested in like like how
these people are makingsomething that that this block

(10:55):
of foam can become this likepower armor, you know?
So it's it's it's just a super,you know, it's it's where all
these, you know, it's wherecreators of all ages to embark
on unforgettable adventurestogether.
So I think I think that reallyis like the heart and the the
spirit of where where InfinityCon is and where it's like
continuing to go.

(11:16):
Um, I know in our furtherconversation, we'll we'll get
more into that.
But so yeah, so that's that'skind of what it is, you know,
everything from superheroes touh to um you know Harry Potter
to fantasy to gaming totabletop.
You know, we're adding horrorelements in there as well, which
is something I'm interested inas you see my uh Wayland
Enterprises Cup.

(11:36):
Or Whalen Kitanic Corp, sorry.
Bad fan.
But yeah, so that's that's kindof uh I think I answered that
question.
Did I answer?

SPEAKER_04 (11:46):
You did, yeah.
Uh you know, and you know, tokind of add on to that with a
secondary question, David.
You know, I think it's reallycool that you're implementing so
many things in general for allages.
Like when you go to conventions,it's kind of assumed that it's
always all ages, but that's notalways the case.
And even in your case, you stillintroduce things like horror.
For me, I have an 11-year-oldwho's getting into that genre.

(12:10):
And the fact that you could dothat in such a safe environment
is really cool.
So when we talk about the allages aspect, you know, why is
that so important to you?

SPEAKER_00 (12:20):
Um, again, wanting a place where everybody can feel
feel safe to come together.
You know, there's there's alwaysgonna be people that may not,
you know, just in in any realmare gonna feel safe there or
feel comfortable.
But we want a place where, youknow, like I said earlier, the
the single guy that's 40 yearsold can come and hang out at the
event and have a good time andenjoy it.

(12:41):
But also the the family of fourwith a three-year-old and a
seven-year-old can also enjoythe event and um still find
things to do without, you know,without feeling like they're not
not safe, but you know, again,things that are just maybe not
kid friendly, you know.
And there is a line with, youknow, with the horror side of

(13:04):
things, there is some um therethere are some things that I I
have to play with and and jugglea bit just to make sure letting
people know, hey, this area mayhave things that are a little a
little more uh horror or may maynot be suitable for some some
families or some kids, you know.
So trying as we grow that areajust to let people know, hey,

(13:26):
this area specifically may havesome of that.
But even when we do like theeffects and things like that, so
that that's kind of where wherewhat always fascinated me about
horror and horror movies was theeffects behind it.
And one of my other goodfriends, Jay Howell, for years
we would do this uh in LakeCity, InfinityCom, we would do
this event called uh There WillBe Blood.

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And we would this queen thewhole stage, we'd put the walls,
like we'd have, you know, itlooked like Dexter scene.
We would have the front tworows, like where parkas we or
not parkas, what is it?
The uh ponchos.
They would all have ponchos onand uh and uh you know over
their heads, and he would dothis crazy kind of deadpan like

(14:09):
like comedy, you know, like hewas a mad scientist kind of
thing, and he would show likehow these different effects
would work, and he would mix upthe blood and he would give
these things and he'd like cutan arm off and he'd but
everything was like was was moreof a teaching and a fun, like it
wasn't it wasn't to the pointwhere it was it was uh it was

(14:30):
over the top and meant to likefreak people out and scare them.
So I think you know, we wouldhave families in there that just
thought it was great.
And so it, you know, even someof those kind of things we did
that just it still kind of keptthat same feel.
And we will have, you know, wehave a few games in our showcase
this year.
We're gonna have our theatersset up.
We'll have 10-foot screens,we're gonna have surround sound,

(14:51):
and we have a few of those gamesthat are going to be more
definitely more adult horror.
I mean, they're going to havevery adult themes, and I would
not feel comfortable with kidsjust walking into those spaces.
So we will make sure to have,you know, things on the outside
that say, hey, you know, pleaseenter at your own risk.
No, there will be, you know,there will be intense gore and
scenes of whatever, you know,when you come into this.

(15:15):
Because we do want it to besomething where, you know, some
kids doesn't some kid or familydoesn't leave traumatized
because they were like, oh, thisis a gaming room.
And then they walk in andthey're like, oh, this is not
what we thought it was.

SPEAKER_04 (15:27):
No, my kids haven't slept in six months.
I'm sure it's a delicate balancefrom getting uh, you know, doing
something like Universal'shorror makeup show versus you
know, kids buying a movie ticketfor a child a kid's movie, but
walking into terrifier.
You know, there's a huge hugegap.
And I know, Phil, I'm surethat's one of many uh challenges

(15:49):
in just running a conventionthat is just fascinating.

SPEAKER_05 (15:52):
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (15:53):
It's sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 (15:55):
No, go ahead, David.
I uh uh because I'm gonna getinto my my for my next question,
but yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 (15:59):
Yeah, no, I mean definitely that's you know,
those are some of the thingsthat and some shows are, you
know, they're meant to be.
They have things that are meantto be more adult-based.
I mean, for instance, a lot ofshows that do focus on guests,
they really want, you know, thekids aren't there.
The kids may want to come see aspecific guest, but that's not

(16:19):
their clientele.
So they're they they're goingafter, you know, they're they
need the parents to be there.
So they're going to get the tenand under kids free because they
want to, you know, just kind ofon the business side of things,
because they want to see theparents come and bring their
kids and the kids will have agood time, but it's the parents
that will stand in line with thekids for an hour or two waiting

(16:39):
on that guest.
And I think that's thedifference in my show.
You know, not well, I try tokeep my prices at a good point,
but I do charge for kids becauseI have a full kids area where I
do put things specifically forkids.
There's Lego builds, there's,you know, story times, there's,
you know, there's gaming andthere's things just specifically
for like kids that want to comeand enjoy that.
So so yeah, definitely like alittle bit of everything, and it

(17:02):
is, it is definitely a uh a highwire act, very, very much so.

SPEAKER_05 (17:07):
Yeah, that perfectly leads into um uh the next
question here because you know,when people come to a
convention, they see all the funand excitement that we're
talking about.
They see all the artists andvendors and the different areas
and things to do, but they don'tsee like the months of work that
go into making it happen.
I mean, you were going fromInfinity to Tallahassee, and
then like the next week you areimmediately planning for

(17:29):
Gainesville, you know.
So what's an aspect of planninga convention that like most
attendees would be reallysurprised to learn that takes so
much effort?
What's something you learnedalong the way?
Like, man, I didn't think Iwould spend this much time on
this thing or or multiplethings.

SPEAKER_00 (17:45):
Gosh, um it's hard for me because I've been in,
because I was from the eventside of things, so like I know
that some of this, but again,uh, you know, fans don't know.
I mean, everything from settingup a date for the venue, for
instance, in Gainesville, um, Ihave to work around football.
So, UF football, there is no wayI will do an event on a football

(18:06):
weekend.
So nobody would come.
Everybody, uh, it I am not asports fan.
It's just I've I've never reallybeen.
Uh, my dad wasn't.
It just I've just never beeninto it.
I enjoy watching sometimes, butit's not my thing.
But it was very surprising to mehow many people in both college
towns we're in that are very,very like like con people.

(18:29):
Like they're they're Star Warscosplayers, they're in the
501st, but like when it's gametime, like they're gonna have
their lightsaber and they'regonna be doing the tomahawk
chop.
You know, it's like, you know,it's like there there is no
there is no going to a con if agame's on.
So it's it's very interesting.
Like I've just never realizedthat before that it was so um
thing.

(18:49):
But again, us being a show thatfocuses on people that don't
know as much about shows, um,that aren't maybe the con crowd
usually, um, that uh definitelywant to avoid you know games.
So yeah, so games, you know,that's something that just
picking dates is hard.
And there's also like what, ahundred shows in Florida.
So picking around other people'sdates, probably 25 to 30, you

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know, in in North Florida.
So, you know, picking arounddates, just planning and laying
out vendors, that's that's oneof the hardest parts.
Like doing the layout, gettingit set, because there's always
things that change.
Um, the floor plan, you know,with Gainesville, my my all my
power is in a floor.
So anything that I need to havepowered, I have to rely on the

(19:37):
on my detail, my my sort ofdetailed sketches of like this
is the point between here andhere.
But if my 10 feet is off thismuch, then this guy may not have
gotten the power he needed, andI gotta run a cable across the
floor.
So it's you know, there's thingslike that, like figuring out
where the layout's gonna be,giving a layout that makes it
easy accessible and you knowmakes it to where every area you

(20:00):
feel like you can find it welland you want to go and visit
each area.
And then um, yeah, it's just theplanning and uh putting finances
together.
I mean, that's you know, ifyou're watching this and you go
to shows or you're interested ina show, even if it's not my
show, please buy a ticket andsupport it.
Like that's you know, thatthat's a big thing.

(20:20):
Like I know with me, I mean, I Iwait till the last minute too,
so I can't fault people for fordoing that.
Um, you know, but I feel likethere's a lot of, you know, the
bigger shows, for instance.
If it's something you know, forinstance, in in Gainesville,
there's the Fest.
It's a big music show.
Um, they have, I mean, it's likeseven different stages across
Gainesville and uh, you know,tens of thousands of people.

(20:43):
It's it's it's wild.
But I've gotten to spend sometime with those guys.
Like they sell out of their maintickets like in the first hour.
So, like, you know, so you knowthat if you're a fan of that
show, you have to go do that.
I mean, that's the same withsome megacon tickets and with
some of those kind of things.
Like, like if you want aspecific ticket or a VIP thing
at that price, you got to go buyit then, or you're just you're

(21:05):
out, you know.
So I think the same thing, youknow, with your favorite events,
like please support thosebecause that's you know, that
that money that's coming in, orif the venue's taking the
ticketing, that that venue isthen looking at what's coming in
and saying, okay, are they gonnapay for the venue?
Is it gonna be enough?
Are they gonna bring enoughtickets in?
So that's a it's a big deal forpromoters.
So that is that is something Ithink a lot of attendees just

(21:27):
don't realize.
Um, just buying that that oneday or two-day ticket, or if
you're gonna do VIP, like goahead and pull the trigger if
you have the funds.
That really goes a long way tohelping a promoter to really
know, like, hey, I know, I knowI have this much, you know,
already coming in.
And because I'll I'll ask youguys a question.

(21:48):
So, how many tickets do youthink I, if we bring in two or
three thousand people, how manytickets do you think I bring in
on Friday, the Friday day beforethe event?

SPEAKER_05 (21:59):
So you're saying like how many people buy just on
Friday?

SPEAKER_00 (22:02):
How many people buy tickets on that Friday?

SPEAKER_05 (22:03):
On that Friday.
Uh, out of two, out of just say2,000, I'll say 80%.

SPEAKER_00 (22:09):
Yeah, it's very close.
It's it's half.
It's at least half.

SPEAKER_05 (22:12):
At least half, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (22:13):
Yeah, so it's it's uh we usually do anywhere from
750, sometimes over, but buttill 1,1200 tickets like on
Friday.
So it's like, you know,everybody, that's when
everybody's getting that finallike push, and some of that's
marketing, you know, that's whenthey're getting the final push
through the marketing channels.
They've been reminded andreminded and reminded.
And then it's like, you know,they've they've been like, oh

(22:34):
yeah, I want to do that.
And then they, you know, theyget busy, life gets busy.
I get that.
And so uh, so yeah, so it's it'sthat Friday is when everybody's
like, oh, it's here, crap, Igotta buy my ticket.
So everybody's like, I gotta dothis.
Because you save money if it'snot at the door, you know, you
save five or six bucks if you goahead and buy it.
And so yeah, so I think I thinkthat's all the main things.

(22:54):
Um, you know, scheduling people,scheduling activities, like it's
it's it's uh we do a lot of likeI my vision is for InfinityCon
to be more of again, more of thethe thing you're coming to than
coming to the guests.
Um just that's the the show Iwant to put together.
Um so a lot of the things I'mdoing, like I'm you know, like

(23:18):
these showcases I'm doing forthe gaming, you know, I'm
actually working with some umsome cool developers, and many
of them, some of the indie gamedevelopers, they're in Sweden,
they're in Germany, like they'rethey're not gonna come to
InfinityCon this year.
Um, we're not at that pointwhere they're like, hey, we'll
be there next month, you know.
But I can reach out to them andsay, hey, could you be a part of
the showcase and help me pushthat I'm gonna do your game and

(23:43):
um and have give me some Steamcodes so we can have the
attendees play these games.
And so um, so those are somethings that are super cool, but
like I I'm putting all thosethings together.
So, you know, me and my team arelike the ones, I have to have
volunteers to run those stationsto make sure, you know, those
things happen.
So again, you know, instead oflike, instead of it's kind of

(24:06):
the same side of the same, uhdifferent side, same coin.
Um for those that focus for theevent promoters that focus on
guests, they're gonna be a lotmore, um, they're gonna be
running guests around, they'regonna be going to, you know,
back and forth to hotels,they're gonna be getting certain
dietary things.
I'm gonna have to make sure, youknow, everything from gaming to
kids' Lego activities to thishas somebody running it, that

(24:29):
it's run well, you know.
So it's, you know, there'sthings on both sides of that.

SPEAKER_05 (24:33):
So yeah, Mayor, we have seen again people putting
out fires and this uh seeing allthat stuff happen behind the
scenes was totally eye-opening.
Who was it we had a couple ofmonths ago on?
Oh, it was uh it was Bey, BeyDoxie, um, a voice voice
actress.
Oh, yeah.
We're talking about like nowthat you were night that you've

(24:55):
done conventions and she's donea convention as a guest, you
know, how do you view themdifferently?
And we certainly have adjustedour viewpoint of conventions and
a bigger appreciation of howthis all comes together.
Um, where it can seem soseamless, it's like the duck
right on the on the top of thewater where everything looks
nice and calm, and thenunderneath, like those feet are
paddling away.
So, like, that's what's going onat all times, probably on any

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show that you go to.
So, yeah, it was reallyeye-opening right here.

SPEAKER_04 (25:20):
Yeah, it was definitely.
And I mean, the thing that makesit all worth it is if the show
is a good show, right?
And a lot of people aredetermining is this gonna be a
show for me?
So I think we've kind of startedthat conversation to get people
to know about Infinity uh forInfinityCon.
Now, David, uh, one of thethings that is important, I

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think, in that conversation iswhat makes your convention so
different?
What makes each convention sodifferent?
I know for InfinityCon, well,there is a lot of vision behind
it.
In fact, there are severaldifferent worlds you can kind of
come in and out of that we arelooking towards and looking
forward to at these types ofevents.
So if we could talk a little bitabout some of these worlds from

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the Forge to Limitless, theAbyss, the Isle of Wonder, New
Renaissance, the Mystic Forest,Technotopia.
All of these sound great, butwhat are they to the average
person who's hearing that forthe first time?

SPEAKER_00 (26:18):
Yeah, yeah.
So uh, so as I was sayingearlier, so um, I am creating
the infinite universe.
So I've had this idea for a longtime of, you know, people seem
to come to my shows and they'relooking for something, they're
looking to immerse themselves inin these worlds.
You see these cosplayers thatcome and just, you know, they
have$2,000 into this cosplay,plus sometimes, and in, you

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know, hours and hours.
I mean, I wouldn't even begin toget some of them six, seven
hundred hours, like crazy amountof time into these costumes and
these cosplays.
And um, you know, and they andthey they go to the shows and um
and I feel like I want to builda place that that is a for these
creators and these cosplayersthat is kind of, I say worthy,

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not that these other showsaren't making things worthy, but
something that is uh kind ofimmersing them in an into an
environment that is a morethematic place, but also
immersing the attendees.
And so as they as they come intothese areas, you're gonna have
this market.
So we're gonna have the infinitemarket.
So these main marketplaces wereyour artists and your vendors,

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um, your kind of entryway withyou know, kind of where things
are at.
And it's gonna branch off intothese seven worlds for now, and
these worlds could appear andchange.
Like that's the cool thing aboutthe concept, is there's a lot of
leeway for us to take it indifferent directions.
Um, I am a writer, I'm acreator, and that's that's kind
of where this is the creativebaby I've been working on for
some time.

(27:45):
So, as we've worked on theseworlds, uh, like you mentioned
earlier, so we have the sevenworlds.
Each of these worlds is gonnahave its own theme, own feel.
When you look at the forge, sothe forge is gonna be
cosplay-based, it's gonna be uhyou're gonna have these scenes
and designs, these set designs.
Um, like we have the FalloutExperience guys that and and
girls that are gonna be puttingsome crazy, like cool fallout

(28:07):
things, like a full, you know, Ithink they're doing like a 40 by
60 or something for forGainesville.
Like it's a huge space.
Um, you have the 501sts, youknow, of course, that are that
are Star Wars cosplay group, andI mean they're and costume
group, and they're you know,they're doing some crazy them
and the man and Laurian Merck'sthey're doing some great big
setups and some things for that.
You know, and then you have thecosplayers, our Forge Masters

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that are that are gonna be doingthe cosplay contest, but also
doing panels and events liketalking about, you know, foam
creation and you know doingdesigns and fabric and you know
working with uh working withmetal and electronics and you
know, LED lighting and suits anduh you know, fans, making sure
there's fans so you don't passout from being in these heavy,

(28:50):
huge cosplays that are that arehot.
So that's gonna be the forge.
Like, and this is gonna be aplanet that's been put together
by these artisans basically.
And the planet itself and thefeel and the look as we go into
this more immersive concept isthere's gonna be a gateway, and
it's gonna be this old uh thisit's gonna be the starship that
has crashed into the planet orthey have pulled to help create

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the planet, and that's gonna bethis gateway that that enters
you in as like the engine relicof this starship.
Um, and that's gonna enter youin like to the main area as we
grow.
That is that is not 2025, butthat is part of the um the dream
as we move forward.
So, and then we have the Isle ofWonder, that's gonna be our kid

(29:33):
zone, you know, working on thatbeing more.
We have Lego, we have um somelike STEM activities, science
center kind of stuff going on.
We have some interactive games,usually like a Switch, or um, we
have the the next like uh likeinteractive games where the kids
can, it's almost like a it'salmost like a connect, like kids
can actually like use thesensors and they're moving, and

(29:55):
like there's a fruit ninja andall that kind of stuff on there.
So those are fun.
And then we Have like uh youknow superhero story time or
princess story time or Jedistory time, things like that.
And then we do uh we'll start inthat area.
We've been doing the uh insteadof a cosplay contest or a
costume contest for the kids, weget them all together and we do

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the cosplay, the InfinityConcosplay parade.
And so we will uh we will havethe kids do their costumes and
um and they'll start the Isle ofWonder and they will actually
parade through the whole eventand um through the whole room.
And it's really sweet, and theyhave a great time.
It gives them their chance toreally like, you know, uh wave
at everybody and everybodycheers for them.

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So that's really fun.
So that's in there.
We're gonna have our horrorarea, like I mentioned, horror
area, and um that's called theAbyss.
And so that area, you know, it'sgonna have the special effects,
so that's gonna be one of themain kind of anchor points of
that.
So there'll be area doingspecial effects demos throughout
the weekend, teaching how to dodifferent um applications, maybe

(30:59):
certain uh body paint forspecial effects needs and things
like that.
Applications, you know, uh, andthen yeah, so that's gonna be a
part of it.
Then we're gonna have severalhorror games that are in these
gaming theory theaters, whichare 10-foot widescreens.
They're gonna cover it's gonnabe like a 10 by 15 space, feet

(31:20):
foot space, where we havesurround sound, and you're
actually gonna be able to go inthere and and like play these
games, check out some differentdevelopers.
Uh, one of them is a uh Turkishdeveloper, uh solo developer.
He's doing this whole game is onhis on his own.
And I actually found out abouthim through IGN.
Um, I was reading like top 20games to look out for 2025 for

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horror, and this Horror TalesEats the World actually pulled
up, and I was like, oh, let melet me check this out.
And you know, he's uh working afull-time gig, not developing
games, you know, and when he'snot working at his full-time
job, he's developing this veryphotorealistic horror game.
So we'll have him this year aspart of the showcase in the

(32:05):
abyss.
We also have this is I don'tknow when this episode's
actually coming out, but we'llprobably announce it by then.
But we have a repo.
The game repo is going to beshowcased in that space.
So we're gonna have four to sixplayers on that that will be
able to play and and have somegood fun, um, some fun cartoony
uh horror, which that that's onethat's creepy, but it's also

(32:28):
it's it's unassumingly creepybecause you're like, this is
these are kind of sillycharacters, and you're like, oh
wait, this is kind of this iskind of uh creepy.
You guys have both played?

SPEAKER_05 (32:39):
Yeah, I was gonna say, like, you're gonna be
looking for us over the weekend.
Like, has anybody seen Eric andPhil or we're gonna be playing
Repo?

SPEAKER_00 (32:46):
So, so the duck?
Yeah, so that you know the duck.
The little asshole.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I finally got to play playwith my brother.
I've it's the first time Iplayed it, honestly, um, last
Sunday.
And he was like, you know, yeah,this duck, man, like just don't
do anything to it, don't hit it.
And I'm like, I'm gonna see whathappens when you like when you

(33:06):
mess with the duck.
And it, man, that was the mostbizarre, funny thing ever.
I was just like, it just likegoes nuts.
And so, you know, I was deadlike five seconds after I got
into the game.
But uh, but yeah, that that'sthat's gonna be super cool.
I think that's one that's reallyhot right now.
They're very excited to be apart, and I hope, I hope at some
point they're developing othergames.

(33:28):
They've developed several games,I believe, already.
So I'm hoping that as they growrepo, we can we can have them
more of a part.
And then the final one is uh Ihaven't got them set up yet.
But there's another game fromApogee that is another horror
game that we should have on theshowcase this year.
So though those will be somethings, um some horror vendors

(33:49):
potentially in that area.
Um, but just really an areawhere um we can have some more
horror-based things.
And as we grow that area, makingit have that creepy feel, the
whole the whole entryway and thegateway to that is gonna be, you
know, where there's voices thatwhisper as you're walking
through the seven feet entryway.
And uh, you know, just likereally adding that creep factor

(34:12):
that gives you a little bit ofthose tingles, you know, very,
very trying to get it a bit morelike you know, the Halloween
horror nights kind of feel, justyou know, to have some fun with
it for those that would beinterested.
Um, again, keeping it well,like, hey, enter, enter at your
own risk, you know.
It may be maybe things that arenot suitable for everyone.
So, but having some fun with it.

(34:33):
So the new Renaissance, sothat's gonna be the idea with
the new Renaissance was uhthat's gonna be my new, that's
the art area.
So we uh we pulled this out inin Tallahassee.
One of the things we did thisyear that I'm just gonna add to
more this year is having liveart going on, like a 10-foot
screen, the same way we do withthe gaming theaters, where
people are watching artists inthese in these theaters like

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throughout the weekend, actuallyjust do art.
So, you know, having some of ourfeature creators, but also
having artists that are inArtist Alley that are just, you
know, that are just greatartists, that you get to see how
each artist does something alittle different.
We had some artists this year uhin Tallahassee.
I think there were even somethat were doing, you know, like
working with foam or workingwith, you know, that the

(35:18):
different like vinyl or working,so there were some different
things that were still art umand maybe even a little crafty,
but I thought it was coolbecause it it gave some
different feels, you know, tothat as people were walking by
and they could ask themquestions.
And then those creators can thensay, Hey, I've got a table, come
talk to me more, let me talk,you know, and hopefully them be
able to find something that theylike and buy something from

(35:40):
their table.
So, and uh make a new fan.
So that's gonna be one of theaspects having live art as much
as possible in that area.
Um, but then also we will havethe base of that's gonna be like
a panel area that will have um,you know, talks about like world
building and uh creating comics.
And um, this year a friend ofmine um actually is a

(36:04):
ghostwriter for um, I don't knowif I'm allowed to say some of
the things, but some biggerstudios, horror studios.
I can say that, I think.
But she's doing a lot ofghostwriting.
Her name's Brandy Barry, and uhshe's a writer and has done some
comic books, and she came toInfinityCon two years ago in
Tallahassee, and we got we gotto talk a little bit and became

(36:24):
friends, and um, and she waslike starting to tell me that
like, oh yeah, well, I do I, youknow, I do some screenwriting
and you know, I'm working withsome people, and every once in a
while I have to go out to thiscertain like place and I meet
with the owner of you know thisand we talk about this thing I'm
working on, you know, and I'mlike, what?
I'm like, for real?
She's like, yeah, she's like,you know, I can't, um, there's

(36:47):
some things that I can talkabout that were more indie that
she's worked on, but it seemslike, you know, which makes
sense in Hollywood.
There, there's a lot of thingsthat are ghostwritten, or
they're, you know, there'sscenes and there's parts that
are maybe more suitable forsomebody else that they've been
close to to write.
And and she's like, yeah, so II've ghostwritten for several
like of the bigger things that,you know, that you would know if

(37:11):
I told you, you know, and I'mlike, oh, that's that's pretty
cool.
So she's gonna have a panel umabout about screenwriting and
doing that kind of stuff, whichI think would be a great, yeah,
would be a great, you know, uhthing to have.
So those will be the kind ofthings happening in that area.
And of course, you know, some ofour feature creators like having
their booths and where you cango chat with them and things

(37:32):
like that.
And then moving on, limitless.
Uh so limitless is going to bethe video game area.
It's going to be very, you know,uh very um not steampunk.
That steampunk stuck in my head.
Uh cyberpunk, very cyberpunkfeeling.
Um, as we grow out that thatfeel and the the kind of feeling
of that.

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Very cyberpunk, very, very muchthat feeling.
But we're gonna have more of thetheaters in that room.
So we're gonna have a few.
Um, we have the the guy.
What was the game he did, Eric?
The um was it alpha response?
Alpha response.
What was the what was theinitial original game that he
the big one that he worked on?

SPEAKER_04 (38:13):
Uh he worked on so yeah, he did uh Counter Strike.

SPEAKER_00 (38:19):
Counter Strike, that's right, that's right.
So yeah, so he's gone out on hisown and um he gave us some Steam
keys and signed up for theshowcase for that room.
We have a local Florida groupthat's coming in um that are
creating their own game.
Um and they're actually basedaround, I got to talk to them
the other day.
Uh, but there's some coolcreators working on a game
that's a little retro feel.

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It seems a little bit Mariofeeling, a little bit like
Zelda-esque.
A little bit of a lot of thingskind of wrapped up, but it seems
like a fun, like one-person gamekind of feel, um, solo player.
And so there'll be another umsolar, um, solar voltage.
They're gonna be in a in an umone of the setups.
So, but that area is going tohave, it's gonna have, we're

(39:03):
gonna have a lot of the gator.
Um, gator VR is gonna have a VRspace there doing VR.
Um, we're gonna have GatorGaming and uh Gator Esports
doing a whole area with someesports going on, some other
like free play gaming, therhythm gaming, urge, uh, UF
rhythm gaming.
They're gonna have some rhythmgame stuff happening.
So, so a little bit ofeverything, just anything

(39:25):
gaming, you know, video game, uhVR gaming-wise, that'll kind of
happen in in that area.
And then uh, so for the mysticmystic forest, that is gonna be
an area that it's veryfantasy-based, you know, Mystic
Forest.
It's at some point, you know,once we have the main uh the
main gateway built out, that'sgonna be like you're entering

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through this like fairy talelike gate, like going into like
this village, so it'll look likea little bit old uh fantasy
village kind of vibe, and you'llenter into this gateway.
I think we're gonna have thetop, these are gonna be like 14
foot tall, 14 foot wide, sevenfoot deep.
So they're gonna they're gonnabe pretty epic.
We're gonna have like trollguards, and you'll see in the

(40:06):
windows at the top, kind of likewalking back and forth, like you
know, in the top, and some funinteraction as you walk through.
But that area is gonna havetabletop gaming, it's gonna have
our quest givers, the mythicmisadventures.
Guys are gonna be there, andgirls, they're gonna be running
um some quests, so attendees cango and be given quests and go

(40:29):
around and um find some thingsand come back and collect for
some fun, like little prizes andstuff, just to go with the show.
Um, that's really fun.
We have several LARP and uhfencing groups, even that will
be in that space doing where youcan get in and try out some foam
sword fighting, as well as likesome uh you know LARP demos

(40:50):
where you're gonna get to seethe full like kind of setup and
some like mini LARP kind ofstuff going on, which will be
cool.
And uh so those are all actuallysome local ones that are based
in the the North FloridaOcala-ish area, um, Gainesville.
So, yeah, so that's gonna be theMystic Four, and then it's gonna
have tabletop.
So last but not least, it'llhave tabletop games.
Um, we have one uh one localGainesville that's already

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signed up for like the tabletopshowcase.
So he's gonna have a space wherehe's demoing his game.
We have a few other people thatare supposed to sign up next few
weeks, and then we'll have uhsome other just tabletop gaming
going on that you would knowthat's not more indie games or
like somebody's set games.
So yeah, so that's MysticForest.
And then last but not least,we're gonna have Technotopia.

(41:35):
So this is one that was a littlebit later in my I think I was
talking to you, Eric, todayabout it.
It was a little bit later on myvision.
Like I didn't really think aboutplanning on it.
But as I've been working more onthe show this year and kind of
continuing to work the conceptand create more is what I'm
doing.

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This is the area we already havelike robot fighting in, which
I'm trying to work out and getsome form of that in Gainesville
this year.
Um the team that we usually useis may not be available.
But aside from that, one of thethings I want, so the the whole
technotopia concept is like aworld's fair kind of feel.
Like the the, you know, theworld's fairs of past were

(42:17):
supposed to be these.
I mean, they literally tookcities and made these crazy
constructions that some of themare still there today, you know,
that look like they're from asci-fi movie.
Like they don't look like theybelong.
And they would spend thesemillions and millions and
millions of dollars refacing acity, you know, area to make it

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look like it was something thatwas from the future.
And then they would bringeverybody in and say, hey, this
is what GM's car of the futureis going to look like, and this
is what you know, this roboticscompany is working on for the
made of the future, you know.
And so, really, like kind oftaking that concept and and
bringing that into thistechnotopia area.
Um, we have, and forGainesville, as I start to flesh

(43:01):
that out more, I have the swamplaunch, the rocket launch team
at UF is actually gonna come in.
They're gonna have their rocket,um, it's like 14 foot tall.
It's like pretty cool.
Um, they're gonna have that attheir space, and then they're
gonna do like some uh what theycall like water bottle rocket
like activities outside wherethey actually do like some crazy

(43:21):
pressure like water bottle rockwater bottle rockets.
And then uh I'm trying to getthem to do a rocket launch.
Like I don't know if we're gonnabe able to get that past, but I
would love for them to do arocket launch.
But yeah, so so bringing inthose kind of things, that's
that's some of the main stuffhappening, like bringing in some
more techie stuff that that wecan put in that area.

(43:43):
But things like, you know, Teslabeing a smart car slash, you
know, electric car, things thatare a bit more futuristic, like
those things would would reallyfit that area.
And that's again, not somethingthat I have as fleshed out for
for Gainesville um yet.
But as we go into to 26,especially, like that'll be more

(44:04):
the direction I go.

SPEAKER_04 (44:05):
So yeah, and it's a huge vision, which is why I'm
really glad we were able to havethe time to kind of talk about
all of the things that you'rejust continuing to build and
develop.
And that's really been a bigcalling card for 2025.
I know, Phil, that is a lot ofstuff to enjoy.
And from a pop culturestandpoint, I mean, that's just

(44:28):
our wet dream.
So that's that's that's why welove Infinity Cards.

SPEAKER_05 (44:32):
I didn't like that phrasing of it.
No, no, I didn't like it.

SPEAKER_01 (44:36):
I'll let you guys have some time by yourself.

SPEAKER_00 (44:40):
Uh but uh, but no, no, I you know, I was talking to
the guy, one of the main guysfrom the Swamp Launch team.
Um, we were having a meeting uha few days ago, and as we were
talking, I started I startedreally realizing that that the
whole robotics and thetechnotopia area really flows so
well with what we do because allof the things we see now, it

(45:04):
started with an idea.
Somebody was reading a JulesVerne book and they were like,
Man, I have this idea from thisbook.
And they started working, youknow, there's there's all these
things that started from StarTrek, you know.
It's like, I mean, we're we'reliterally living in, you know, a
world of Star Trek with thesephones, you know.
It's like it's uh it it's it'scrazy to see how it's not quite

(45:28):
what we thought the future wasgonna be.
I mean, we're not Jetsons yet,but uh it's it's really
interesting to see how how howthe fantasy and those things it
inspired a different kind ofcreativity.
It wasn't, hey, I'm gonna writethe next book fantasy series.
It was how can I make thisfantasy real?
You know, and uh, and so I thinkI think that you know the

(45:50):
robotics and that, I mean,because the robotics has been, I
mean, the robot fighting hasbeen a huge hit every every
event, which is because it'ssuper cool.
Yeah, like you said, I think itreally, it really ties
everything together and bringsin an aspect and a and a thing
that's not really a part of ofthe convention world, but it
fits so well with InfinityCon.
So I'm excited to continue tokind of grow that aspect and see

(46:13):
where that takes us.

SPEAKER_05 (46:14):
So yeah, and in explaining those worlds, it just
it makes a lot of sense as towhy you've had guests like Scott
Tepperman from Ghost Hunters whouh in Tallahassee, which by the
way, I had a blast.
I was a huge uh Ghost Huntersfan uh when I was younger, and
still still a big paranormal fanas well.
It's weird because I have I lovethe paranormal, but I don't like
scary movies like specifically.

(46:36):
It's it's kind of a weird I likethe real like quote unquote real
stuff, you know the real so uhit's so that makes a lot of
sense.
You know, of course, we've gotJessica Kavanaugh through
InfinityCon, who is now myvoiceover coach.
So uh which is fantastic.
You know, you've had noisecomplaint, you've had so many
different types of types ofpeople here featured at

(46:56):
InfinityCon.
So we really want to know whatare those fandoms that you enjoy
the most.
So, like when you were going toa megacon, what were you looking
for?
You know, we've already talkedabout uh Fallout, we've talked
about Star Wars, we talked aboutdifferent video games.
I remember, Eric, one of the oneof the funniest things from
InfinityCon Tallahassee, amongstall the craziness, again, like

(47:16):
you're you're running around,you know, you you're you're
handling so many differentthings.
And I remember one time, Eric,do you remember when Dave was
like, yeah, I'm gonna go trythis VR shooting?
Like ran off to go do that.
So you find time to enjoy allthe things that you work so hard
to put together.
So, like, what are those thingswhen you go to a convention and
and Lord knows Eric, when's thelast time we got to go to a

(47:37):
convention like just for fun?
It's been a while, but like whatare those things that you like
to look for and what fandomsreally draw you in?
Is is it just a fan and a nerd?

SPEAKER_00 (47:46):
Yeah, so I mean, for instance, um, you know, back in
the day, it would have been whenStan Lee was alive.
I I got to we got to get apicture with him, which was
super cool.
Um, I love Stan, I love you knowreading his stuff.
I'm a huge Spider-Man fan.
So, you know, I think I thinkthat that was a cool thing for
me.
I like flipping through thecomics, you know, seeing some

(48:09):
different things.
I I think I think it's so hardfor me as a fan.
Like I think at my show I canenjoy.
I think I'm always like likeanalyzing when I go to shows, so
that makes it a little hard forme.
But then I also like the horrorstuff.
So I do um I'm a huge BruceCampbell fan.
I mean, I I the shelf above mehere has like uh two Ash figures

(48:33):
and like four Ash pops, and likeso I I really enjoy um you know
Bruce Campbell and Army ofDarkness, the Evil Dead uh
series, Ash versus Evil Dead.
So I I I enjoy I enjoy that kindof stuff.
If it's a horror game, like lastyear, uh I actually didn't get
to play this one, um, but we haduh, and we should have it again

(48:54):
this year, we had House of theDead with light guns on one of
the 10-foot screens.
And I think this year it'sprobably gonna be on one of my
like 60-inch screens orsomething like that.
But that was super cool becauseit was like, you know, House of
the Dead arcade, but just likeyou know, 10-foot screen.
It was like that was pretty neatum with surround sound.
So, but I did get to go playlike the walkthrough of one of

(49:15):
our indie developers had ahorror game last year, so I got
to go enjoy that.
I like VR, you know, I've beenin the VR world for a little
while, so that's it's fun to dothat.
So, yeah, I think uh I thinkthose are the main things.
It's hard because when I do goto shows when I'm doing stuff,
like it's more like my my offtime that I would enjoy.
It's not really at shows becauseI'm either analyzing it to to

(49:38):
figure out do I like this or doI want to do it?
Can I do it better?
Is that better than when I doit, you know, or do I want that
at all?
You know, that kind of stuff.
But I think in my own time, youknow, I like playing Resident
Evil, so I'll I'm still, youknow, I'll I'll it probably
takes me 150 hours to finish aResident Evil game anymore.
I just I play for like threedays after InfinityCon usually,

(49:59):
and then and then I don't playit for like a month, and I'll
play like an hour or two, youknow.

SPEAKER_05 (50:04):
So yeah, I don't know if you saw this.
Um it's it's funny you broughtup House of the Dead.
They're actually made umreleasing House of the Dead to
uh the remake on consoles atactually at the end of the
month.
I think it was like justrecently announced.
So um, yeah, I remember House ofthe Dead was definitely one of
those first like arcade gamesthat I remember with the uh um
with the light gun and you knowshoot off screen to reload, and

(50:26):
it's uh it's it's a hard time,so yeah.
That's is I'm I'm it's so funnyyou mentioned that as far as
like when you get to go to ashow and you're analyzing it,
like, man, do I want to do that?
Could that work?
Like, that's how I am withpodcasts as well.
So whenever I listen to apodcast, I'm like, hmm, I kind
of like that idea.
Maybe we'll try that.
Eric, Eric, we're no stranger tostealing ideas from friends
podcasts.

unknown (50:47):
We do that quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00 (50:48):
No, I mean you know, it can can only help you get
better, right?
Right?

SPEAKER_05 (50:53):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 (50:54):
That's 100% right.
So, David, there's a lot ofthings in pop culture we've
already talked about, and we'vereally kind of looked backwards.
What are you kind of looking atthe landscape now as far as
either an interest or aninterest of your congoers?
You obviously have so manypeople of so many different
ages, like just kind of lookingat the last decade, the last

(51:16):
couple years, what exactly haskind of caught your eye?
Whether it's something you'veactually enjoyed or you've
always maybe wanted to check outbecause you're seeing it pop up
in the convention scene or atyour convention so often.
So something that I would wantto add, or just something that
I'm okay.
Like for example, this the bigthing this year is K-pop demon

(51:38):
hunters.
No idea if that's something onyour radar, if you want to check
it out, if you have seen it.
So is there anything under thatumbrella that either you want to
check out because you see it sooften in these circles, or maybe
it's something that you didcheck out because of these
circles that you're in all thetime?

SPEAKER_00 (51:56):
Oh, sure.
I mean, I I will definitely saythat because of I'm not an anime
guy, I like some of it.
I'm I'm a robot guy, so I mean,all the you know, big O and um
all that kind of stuff was mywas my thing because I love big
robots.
But yeah, so I haven't been asmuch into anime, but uh I kept
hearing so much about K-popDemon Hunter, and uh I was

(52:18):
actually on vacation and I stuand I was like uh they actually
had a hot tub with a TV next toit.
I was like, okay, well, I'm justgonna I was flipping through
Netflix, you know, the DoomScroll.
You're like, well, I don't wantto watch this, I'm gonna watch
this.
And I thought it was a series,so I'm like, okay, well, I'll
watch the first episode and seewhat goes on.
And so like I'm I'm hooked andI'm halfway through it, and I'm

(52:39):
like, I'm like, man, this is areally long episode.
And then I like stop it and I'mlike, oh, halfway through a
two-hour movie.
I'm like, okay, you know, andI'm like, I'm not stopping now.
And it was like, as a guy that'snot an anime fan, I'm sorry, any
of my my my InfinityCon fansthat are listening, it was so
much better than it everdeserved to be.

(53:00):
Like, I I wrote my my bestfriend Martin, and I was like, I
was like, dude, I'm watchingthis, and I'm just like, the
story is good, the writing isgood, the characters are so like
you care about the characters.
It just hit all the songs arejust it's it's like a it's like
a K-pop uh musical.

(53:20):
It's really so freaking welldone.
I mean, this the writing,everything.
Like I was just I was justcreatively just like just
overstimulate.
I was just like, this is sogood.
So I've enjoyed that.
Like I've enjoyed, I mean, sokudos to them for that.
I mean, I think they spent whatseven years making that, like
something crazy.
So I mean, kudos for them justto really you can tell like the

(53:41):
time and love and energy thatwent into that that movie.
But I I don't think I would havewatched it except for everybody
was like, K-pop demon hunters,k-pop demon hunters.
Um, you know, all the con peopleand other cons were talking
about it.
And so, yeah, so that that wouldbe one of the things I will say,
kind of going into somethingthat, you know, this immersive
thematic thing that I'm goinginto.

(54:02):
You know, I mean, I startedseeing back in Mega Con days,
there were a lot of these, therewas a guy, um Cecil Grimes.
I think he still out, does stuffout there, but looked a lot like
Rick Grimes.
His cosplay was Cecil Grimes,always had the the Rick going
on.
Um, and he would do these, hewas calling it like set play
instead of cosplay.

(54:22):
I think he was calling it setplay.
And he had the full like prisonsetup, you know, from like a
like a full setup of like TheWalking Dead.
And it was just so freakingcool.
I had we had him in 2016, it wasa great setup, it was super cool
to have.
And that that was the year thatthis whole thematic kind of, you

(54:43):
know, this theme, more themepart-based thing kind of came
into be um in my mind becauseyou know, I saw people, we had
Lemmy the Lugabeast that year umas well.
And I saw people, you know, TheMillion Dollar Man was across
from the 501st.
Edward James Olmos, you know,was stand and deliver, uh, you
know, uh Battlestar Galactica,which was my jam, you know,

(55:04):
which is why I wanted him there.
You know, he's right, thesepeople are like right, like you
could see all of them fromthere.
And people were just, they werea ghost town at their, at the at
the creators.
And, you know, the 5.01, it wasjust photo after photo after
photo and Lemmy and all thesethings, and people were just so
excited to see like this come tolife in front of them and be a

(55:28):
part of it.
And I think it's those samefeelings you get.
Um, whereas even more so now,like I, you know, Megacon is
definitely a trade show.
It's not as much a, you know,it's it's you go to see vendors
and stand in line for guestautographs, which is just the
kind of show it is.
That's cool.
But it it's not really a placewhere you're gonna go see
thematic wonder.

(55:49):
It's not a place that they'veadded some areas that have more
of the bigger theme stuff.
I think they had like the Falcorand the guy that does some of
the uh Dragon Ball Z, like thethe egg, the the con, what is
that?

SPEAKER_04 (56:04):
The the pod.

SPEAKER_00 (56:05):
The pod, the ship pod thing, yeah.
So there's stuff like that thatthey are bringing in.
But again, that's also such ahuge space to theme out and
thematically design.
Like it would just be massive,you know.
Um, it can be done, but it it'djust be insane.
So I think that's where some ofthose ideas started to really
spark.
And I was like, you know, I Iwant to bring my own, for lack

(56:30):
of a better term, intellectualproperty, my own creation, these
own ideas I have and theme andhave this story that you're
entering into InfinityCon.
And much like uh if you guyshave done uh Meow Wolf, if you
or if you know anything aboutMeow Wolf, um, you have this
Meow Wolf's this like artisticinteractive exhibit um where

(56:51):
these artists have just createdthis whole world and story, and
you can choose to interact withthe story and watch the story
and do all these things thatdrive you further into the
story, or you can just go in andwander around and enjoy the art
and the crazy world that's beingbuilt.
So that that would be my goal.
Like, I, you know, and and Iwant to build that kind of world

(57:13):
that all of the stuff from aconvention lives in.
It has the artists, that has thevendors, it has, you know, it
has these things, but you'reable to enjoy like the the draw
of the show is that you'recoming into this infinite
universe and FinityCon is thisis its own like world.
So yeah, so I I think that's Ithink that's that answers the

(57:35):
question.

SPEAKER_04 (57:35):
Yeah, yeah, and Meow Wolf, like when we were talking
about it earlier too, issomething I definitely like I I
get it, like I get thecorrelation there.
Um, you know, Phil, I think oneof the things to kind of David's
point, one of the things wereally like is it it really is
trying to be an immersiveexperience that invokes
emotions.
And I think that's that's reallyimportant when it comes to like

(57:58):
this pop culture conventionscene because a lot of people
really are connected to thesefranchises or these characters,
and in a lot of ways, theconventions that they go to as
well.
So, Phil, I know that'ssomething that you know you and
I definitely share uh in thatway.

SPEAKER_05 (58:15):
Yeah, and you know, not to I know we keep on
bringing up MegaCon, and youknow, Mega MegaCon's the it's
the big time, you know, where uhyou know people go there to meet
those celebrities.
Like I did that a couple ofyears ago when and I met
Kihikwan.
Like that was just something Iwas like, yeah, I know I gotta
drive down there and do that.
But and you know, getting thepicture and getting to very
briefly talk to him was great,but like you know what I

(58:37):
remember standing in line, likejust waiting the whole time, and
then not having enough time towalk the vendor floor in the
artist uh artist alley, becauseby the time I got out of the
line for my picture, there'sonly a couple hours left to walk
around.
So when we gotten to work withthese other shows, Eric over the
last few years, we remembersomebody coming up to us about
their first ever cosplaycontest, or at an InfinityCon,

(58:59):
we we hear people talking aboutyou know a really fun event they
got to do, a new video game theygot to play, and it's it's just
very different.
And that's why it's it's soimportant to let people know
like there are other games outthere, there are other
conventions that you can go to,you don't have to spend all your
time and go into just one.
Uh you can really I one of thegoals we actually had in 2024,

(59:21):
was it last year?
It might have been 2023, 2024.
Whenever the first time you andI met David when when Corey
introduced us, our goal thatyear was to go to one convention
a month for um for the entireyear.
We did end up doing 12, but justnot in one a month, so uh and
and it was just so it wasrelatively easy to do because,
like you said, there's so manyshows throughout the state.

(59:41):
We did one in Savannah, youknow, so they're accessible.
You just have to know where tolook, and you know, that and
then you'll you'll have thoseexperiences that you remember
outside of standing in a line orbeing in a cramped space.
Like they are out there inInfinity Con is definitely one
of those.
Um, as we get towards the game,like you mentioned.
A moment ago, Eric.
I want to give you the time,David, because again, as Eric

(01:00:04):
and I have worked with more ofthese shows, the person running
it is also only as good as histeam.
And we have seen you verypassionately talk about your
team and recognize them.
And I knew it was probably goingto come up organically with you,
so I just wanted to manufactureit and actually give you an
opportunity to talk about yourteam and the people that are
behind the scenes that have yourback because we got to work with

(01:00:26):
them for the first time inTallahassee, right, Eric?
And they're awesome.
So I just wanted to give youthat time to spotlight them.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:33):
Yeah, yeah.
Gosh, I always hate this becauseI'm gonna leave somebody out.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:38):
So I mean It's like an acceptance speed.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:40):
So Al Right, all right.
I know, right?
Um so Alex, Alex Hart is myassistant.
Um, she came on this year toreally help just kind of get
some things put together in theback end, um, as I'm just always
doing all the things.
And again, this is a very loftyidea.
So conceptually, there's a lotthat I want to get done, and
it's it's it's it's a lot.

(01:01:00):
So Alex has come on for that.
I do have Mr.
Eric here helping out with somesocials and doing some stuff as
well.
So that has been a big help.
That uh that is something thatis that's one of the things that
that ends up getting put to theside until until the event's
almost here most of the time,just because that's the last
thing I have time to work on,but I know it's important.

(01:01:21):
So um, so yeah, thanks, man.
That's that's been superawesome.
But then uh, so I have LaceyMcCarthy, who is uh works kid,
she's my kids con person, I lovewonder, but she also runs my uh
she's doing volunteers, so she'sworking on volunteers.
We had another fellow podcaster,uh George, who was helping in
Tallahassee doing my gaming.

(01:01:43):
But George, George Sumter alsodoes the uh Gen X Grown Up
Podcast.
Uh, he's with those guys.
And uh he uh he was helping mewith gaming in that time.
And then we have I see there itgoes.
Well, Martin Piero, uh my bestbud Martin Piero, he helps me
with my vendors, helps me putthe show on.
I mean, he and I kind of go backto back working at each other's

(01:02:05):
shows.
Actually, his show.
He booked his show the weekbefore my show, before I booked
my show.
And I could, I, I kind of bookedpast his date.
So it's gonna be a little of amarathon, the the two weeks of
our shows.
But so yeah, so we uh Martindoes my vendors, like he's the
one that's checking everybody inand making sure the vendors are
okay, making sure they have agood experience and they want to

(01:02:26):
come back, which is super, superawesome.
Again, these, you know, theseare all people I can trust and I
know that can take care ofthings.
If they're not sure aboutsomething, they're gonna reach
out to me.
And then we have Chris, who isour facilities guy.
It's Chris Stevenson.
And um, Chris has been helpingthe last few years kind of kind

(01:02:47):
of get probably since like 2016or not 2016.
He was in Tallahassee, so yeah,but he's been helping the
facilities and set up andgetting things going, um, along
with the rest of the team thatkind of has to jump in and make
sure things work.
Um, make sure my ideas happen,which is usually what what ends
up happening.
Uh and then we have Jeff Davis.

(01:03:10):
So Jeff Davis has been helpingin a few areas.
Um, but Jeffrey, uh, he used to,him and his dad owned a comic
book store over in Tallahasseefor a while, the uh the
bookshelf too.
And um now he's he's got uhanother day day gig, and um he
helps me with like the artistand the the new renaissance
area, um kind of putting thattogether.

(01:03:32):
So Jeff is awesome.
And then Sydney Lewis um has uhbeen a volunteer for years, and
Sydney, they've really come inand just done anything I've
needed, and I'm having Sydneykind of take over, helping where
needed, but also doing a lot ofthe VIP stuff, so making sure
VIPs are taken care of, makingsure, you know, maybe checking

(01:03:52):
in with uh some of our sponsorsand things like that.
I brought in the Wellwood uhmarketing this year, so they're
a group that I've been workingwith.
Todd Schreier uh is actuallyhelping like uh reach out to
different sponsor sponsors andpartners, and they'll be back
again to help kind of make surewe keep those relationships
going well and uh doing thosekind of things.

(01:04:13):
And their team will be back.
I think that's everybody.
And then my family.
Like uh, I mean, that's youknow, half the year.
My wife, you know, is just kindof you know, there always just
when I'm crumpled in a heap andhaving bad days and waiting on
finances and trying to makestuff move forward.
Um, my wife, she's my bestfriend, she's there.

(01:04:34):
Nina's, you know, there to handhelp me handle things.
And then uh, you know, my mybonus parents, Oma and Papa,
they're they're always there.
My tall, my tall father-in-law,uh Danny.
Um, he's all you guys know Papa,so he's he's always just making
sure things work out with our,you know, our our whether it's
the merch area or you know, makesure people have what they need.

(01:04:58):
I mean, he's he's taking care ofthings.
And then uh my mom helps.
My mom puts most of the lanyerstogether and packs the packets
for like vendors' packets andall that kind of stuff.
So so yeah, it's uh it takes avillage to keep my ideas uh
moving forward for sure.
And yeah, thank you, Phil, forbringing that up because I yeah,

(01:05:18):
definitely have a great teamkeeping that going and and you
know, and to both you guys, notjust Eric, but I mean Phil, you
were, you know, you were veryhelpful this year, like trying
to get you know, get some thingspromoted and get things moving
forward this year to to to helppush InfinityCon out there and
and get more eyes on it.
So, you know, I I appreciatethat as well.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:38):
So yeah, for sure.
And Eric, you know, we don'tpush anything out there that we
don't like genuinely believe in.
So we want to let people know,we want to get more people out.
Uh now rank all those people inorder of importance, so go.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:50):
Well, of course, you and Eric.
I mean, you're up at the top,right?
Yeah, there you go.
Of course.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:57):
I kind of I was gonna say, I kind of ended with
my family.
I probably should have startedthere, right?
Um, I should have started withmy first.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:05):
No, that's the way to go.
That's the way to go.
We love to hear that, and welove to we're loving being a
part of uh, you know, anysuccesses that InfinityCon's
gonna have.
I think it's a great vision.
I know I speak for Phil in that.
And kind of our final questionbefore we get into uh game, uh,
just to wrap it up with a littlebit of fun.
I do want to talk a little bitabout we've talked so much about
the vision of InfinityCon, butthe future is just ahead of us,

(01:06:30):
whether that's two years, three,five, ten, what do you, David,
think about the future ofInfinityCon?
You don't have to get intospecifics because I know a lot
of things a lot of things aredeveloping, but like if you were
to look five, ten, this isInfinityCon, so it has to last
forever.
But in the near future, what doyou hope is the future of

(01:06:52):
InfinityCon?
What would you hope if you hadmaybe to set a singular or just
a couple goals for yourself?
Uh, what would you like to seeout of InfinityCon in the
future?

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:02):
Sure.
So I'm gonna start this.
I almost mentioned this earlier.
I'm gonna start this by saying,you know, that the question
where somebody's like, you know,so you built this thing, like if
somebody were to offer you$10million tomorrow, would you take
it?
Like, would you sell it and justbe done?
You know, would you sellMegaCon, you know, and just make
it make it go?
And my answer would be no.

(01:07:23):
I I have a vision, like I I knowthis is what God wants me to do.
And I know this is like when Iwhen I get set on a vision and
what my path and my what I'msupposed to do, like I I know
it's one, I know it's neversupposed to stop.
I mean, I constantly have peoplewhen I'm going through hard
times that are like, are yousure you're supposed to keep
doing this?
Like, this is a lot.

(01:07:44):
Like, you're not in a good placea lot of the of your life.
Um and uh, and I'm like, no,this is what I'm supposed to be
doing.
And I think going to now yourquestion, the reason I would not
take, I think, I think my answerto somebody that would say, Hey,
here's here's one milliondollars, you know, thinking what
InfinityCon could be worth,maybe.

(01:08:06):
Take this today and leave, Iwould say, I'll counter you
with, could you give me$500,000and let me do my vision?
Why don't you give me half ofthat and let me really create my
vision?
So what I what what I what Iforesee and what I'm working on,
um, there's a company calledTwisted Whisker Entertainment
that has come along with me.
They helped out in Tallahassee.

(01:08:27):
You got to see some of the startof them.
They helped put up together someof the the first parts of like
the gaming theaters that we didin Tallahassee and things like
that.
They they ran the stage, butthey are a thematic design
company.
They work with a lot of hauntsand um more in the more in the
haunt, um, haunted houseindustry, but uh um developing
that.
But they thematic design-wise,they do theater, they do stage

(01:08:49):
shows, they've done a little bitof everything.
And they've worked with peoplefrom Universal and such.
So the goal and the dream for mein Mumi, you're gonna start
seeing some of this in 2025 inTallahassee, is to really have
this immersive experience thatstarts with these gateways.
So each of the worlds we talkedabout today, um, you know, the

(01:09:10):
Abyss, the New Renaissance, theyall have a story.
They all have an actual worldthat I'm having artists create
that will fit the look and feelof what that is.
And the idea would be is thesegateways take you to these
different planets, they take youto these different worlds.
And when you cross through thegateway, that's the world you're
entering in.
So the first kind of part ofthat would be creating these

(01:09:32):
gateways.
Um, you know, they're gonna be15 or so feet wide, 14, 15 foot
tall, about seven to eight footdeep.
So you're actually gonna walkthrough and be able to have a
little bit of interaction, havethe feeling that you're actually
going from one space to another,not just, you know, I walk past
a vendor pipe and drape, butlike literally you're walking

(01:09:53):
through into a new world.
And the first thing will be ispretty much working on one gate
at a time.
I hope to have two to four ofthose gates ready by
Tallahassee.
That may be a little lofty,we'll see.
So, again, more thematic design,more like you're going to a
theme park Comic Con.

(01:10:13):
That would be the idea of goinginto that.
The bigger idea would again beto finish out all the gateways,
to kill the downlighting, andactually control the look and
the feel, and the entire likethe whole thing would feel like
you're in another world.
So when you enter into thisinfinite market, which would
feel more like like amarketplace, like I'd like to

(01:10:34):
theme that out a bit more, youknow, marketplace feeling, which
I mean it's vendors and artiststhat it kind of already feels
like that.
You know, maybe even work onlike, you know, the lights,
lights going between the vendorsand that kind of stuff.
Again, as you as we're thinkingabout, like, you gotta make sure
vendors have good light.
You gotta make sure.
So as you're doing all this, Ialso have to make sure those

(01:10:54):
things are taken care of.
I can have thematic design, butif it's not functional, then
it'll it's it's not working.
So yeah, so I think that's thegoal.
That's the movement.
My goal is to take and flip theconcept of we need guests as the
draw.
And for my conventionspecifically, I want to make

(01:11:15):
InfinityCon and this thematicexperience the draw.
Like I want people to say, whatnew thing is has arrived at
InfinityCon this year.
And with these gateways and withthis theme and with the stories,
it's gonna start out with mycreation.
It's gonna start out withconcepts and ideas that I have.
And I'm gonna, I'm gonna writethe stories, I'm gonna fill the
stories out.

(01:11:35):
But I'm excited about how theycan change, how other people's
stories can intertwine withthese.
Whether we expound on thestories of the different worlds,
of the mystic forest, of theabyss, of new renaissance, or
whether we create whole totallydifferent worlds based on some
other people that come into theuh Tuming of the Forum, maybe

(01:11:56):
other companies that say, youknow, if Bloomhouse comes in and
says, hey, I want to create, wewant to create a something in
the abyss this year that is uh ayou know a Bloomhouse focused
area, you know, who knows?
Sky's the limit.
I'm I'm a squeak a wheel, ifanything.
So I will I will ask and I willsay, hey, you want to be a part?

(01:12:17):
Just just we're here.
So that's great.
Yeah, so that that's what's inthe pipeline.
That is the vision I want tosee, and I think we'll will be
where we start heading in 26.

SPEAKER_04 (01:12:30):
So very awesome to hear, and of course, you know,
just getting to see that visionuh play out is gonna be such a
such joy.
And I know, Phil, you're excitedas well.
For me, we just went to EpicUniverse talking about theme
parks, and they do like theportals, and yeah, I can tell
you right now, kids love that.
As an adult, I also very muchenjoyed that.

(01:12:52):
So, like getting to see yourconcept of gateways, but at the
convention, you know, level, Ithink is gonna be uh very great.
But with all that being said,we've talked a lot about
InfinityCon, about everythingunder the sun pop culture.
So, in that same vein, we arenow going to play our game, and
we are gonna do a little popculture jeopardy.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:16):
So we're gonna have to categories because Eric's
still here.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:20):
Okay, we're gonna it was necessary.
Um, so you both gentlemen willneed your phones.
Uh, if you are listening audioonly, that is okay.
I'll be saying the questions,we'll be going over the answers.
There is a visual element ifyou'd like to switch over to our
video portion on YouTube.
But uh, if you guys go to thewebsite here or use the QR code,

(01:13:42):
there'll be a code here or a pinto join the game.
And Phil, I'm gonna assumesafely that you are the
Mosasaurus.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:51):
You would be correct.
That is that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:52):
So I need to correct L, right?
Yep, yep.
There should be two spots.
You're gonna have to select acharacter or an icon, avatar.
Take your time.
I do when it's my turn.
Who wants to be Aiden or Alex?
I know.
When you can be a broccoli.
You exactly.

(01:14:13):
See?
David gets it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:17):
I'm definitely gonna be a broccoli.
There we go.
Awesome.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14:21):
Alright.
So we have our team set, uh,Mosasaurus versus broccoli
tonight.

unknown (01:14:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14:29):
Uh, we'll go ahead and begin our game, and you guys
will see our categories aregoing to be based off of the
world of Infinity Town.
Okay, okay.
Nice.
So it's gonna be a uh a greattime.
Let me make sure that I have theability to enter our final

(01:14:49):
factile answer, and we should begood to go.
Uh, we are gonna go ahead and goacross the board and play a
little bit.
I will tell you that I try to bemindful of difficulty, however,
depending on your knowledge ornot uh lack of knowledge, could
be difficult.
So I would challenge you guys tonot focus so much on the dollar

(01:15:11):
amounts and focus more on thecategories.
When we talk about the Forge, weare talking about things in
cosplay, uh specificallycharacters in cosplay for this
category.
Limitless and Technotopia isgonna focus on robots and
gaming.
The Abyss, everything horror.
We're gonna focus, I think, onmovies in this category.

(01:15:31):
Isle of Wonder, I specificallywas looking for questions that
anyone under the age of 10 couldanswer.
Uh New Renaissance is gonna beeverything regarding That's a
dangerous assumption.
Uh New Renaissance is gonna beeverything uh like comics and uh
writing and and uh literature,uh Mystic Forest, Tabletop.
So we've got our categories.

(01:15:53):
David, you are gonna control theboard first, and whenever we
open up the question, you'regonna be responsible to buzz in
as quickly as possible.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:03):
Well, don't spam it, remember?

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:04):
Yep, so be careful to spam it before it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:07):
No, don't spam, remember?
Yeah, don't it will lock themout.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:11):
Oh, it'll lock me out.
When I read the question, thebuzz button will appear.
Uh once it lights up, you'reready to quick uh click buzz as
quickly as you can.
And uh you do not have to clickbuzz, but again, if you do, you
gotta give me an answer.
Just like Jeopardy, points or nopoints.
So, David, are you ready to go?
Would you like to pick acategory to kick us off?

(01:16:34):
I can't.
Do I have to do what is or whois?
No, you don't.
No, we're not that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:38):
Okay, okay.
I was like, how jeopardy are wegetting here?

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:40):
Um, I'm gonna have to go with the abyss for 400.

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:43):
Okay.
For 400.
Alfred Hitchcock famously usedthis for blood in the iconic
shower scene in Psycho, since itlooked better in black and
white.
Syrup.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:55):
All right, we're gonna go.
You gotta buzz in.
No, you did buzz in.
I did buzz in?
Okay, cool.
Your answer's syrup?
Yeah, that was fast.

unknown (01:17:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:03):
Alright, David.
It was chocolate syrup.
I will take it.
You know what?

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:08):
I'm used to hearing the buzzing, but that's why I
didn't hear it.
I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:11):
Alright.
I was ready.
David!

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:17):
David, where where are you where do you want to go?

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:20):
Uh let's do the Abyss for 600.
Ones I know.
Maybe.

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:25):
This iconic horror series is also one of the
best-selling children's bookseries in history, with over 400
million copies sold.
Phil?

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:34):
Goosebumps?

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:36):
It is goosebumps.
I know.
I was the name was right in myhead, and it just isn't like,
yeah, yeah.
Nice.
Alright, Phil, good job.
Goosebumps, you control theboard.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:45):
Let's go to let's do the Abyss 8.

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:50):
This 1999 psychological horror film was
made on a budget of around600,000, but gross nearly 250
million worldwide thanks to itsviral marketing.
Phil, you buzzed in first.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:01):
The Blair Witch Project.

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:04):
The Blair Witch Project is correct.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:07):
I should have known that.
Phil, you have the board?
Let's do 200 first before we getto a thousand.

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:13):
Okay.
This title belongs to ourfavorite female survivors who
outlive everyone else in ahorror movie.
Phil, I knew you had to get thatbecause Philin would literally
kill you.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:24):
I know.
The final girl.

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:26):
Yeah, I'll say final girl, yeah.
Final girl.
Alright.
Alright, David.
Phil Phil took the challenge.
He doesn't want to play.
Alright.
Phil, you want to go to athousand for the board?

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:37):
Yeah, let's get to a thousand.

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:39):
Alright.
This horror franchise is theonly one to have two movies
crack the top tenhighest-grossing horror films of
all time.
I did figure this might pauseyou, but it is, in my opinion,
very obvious.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:54):
I I have two in mind, and I don't feel like
risking a thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_04 (01:18:59):
I don't know.
Risk reward.
Remember, Phil, you usuallycrumble.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:04):
Okay, you didn't have to.
Imagine if Alex Trebek was like,well, remember, you usually
don't do well down the stretch.

unknown (01:19:10):
Crap.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:12):
Alright.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:13):
Last chance.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:15):
Uh anybody want to buzz in?
Anybody gonna buzz?
You gotta buzz.
Phil?

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:21):
The Conjuring Universe.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:23):
No.
No! The Conjuring, The Conjuringis the highest grossing
franchise of all time, but onlyhas the most recent film cracked
the top.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:34):
Probably the other one.
Alright.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:36):
Uh, David.
Paranormal Activity?

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:39):
No.
No, it's uh Can I can I I mean Ithink I know what it is, but my
other guess was gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:47):
Well, you both got it wrong.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:48):
Oh, what?

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:49):
Yeah, that was not gonna be my guess.
I was gonna go FinalDestination.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:52):
It Chapter 1 and It Chapter 2 are both in the top 10
highest grossing films of alltime.

unknown (01:19:58):
What?

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:59):
Like films, period?
Yeah, like horror films.
All time.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:03):
Just horror films.
Okay.
Just horror.
Okay.
It's the same, okay, but thesame franchise.
I understand.
Yeah.
I was gonna go finaldestination.
I thought it would be final.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:12):
Because I well, you said you said uh what was the
first one?
The conjuring?

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:16):
The conjuring universe, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:17):
Yeah.
And then I know ParanormalActivity also did well.
What was what's the newer onethat just came out with the is
that the conjuring that has thetwo, the couple that are
paranoid that are Yeah, yeah,the Warrens.
Okay.
Insidious is the other one I wasthinking of.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:31):
Insidious, yeah.
But yeah, that new paranoptions.
I would not have gotten it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:36):
Jeez, yeah.
No, never.

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:38):
That's okay.
That's okay.
Well, listen, we had a goodmixture there.
Yeah, that was a good mixture.
Phil, you do technically stillhave control of the board.
Where do you want to go?

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:46):
Let's do Limitless and Technotopia for two.
Daily?

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:53):
Alright.
This show first aired in 2000 onComedy Central and was inspired
by the British show Robot Wars.
Who's gonna buzz in?
One of you should be.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:05):
Battlebots?
It is BattleBots.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
I was like, I was like, itsounds like BattleBots, but I'm
not sure.
Yeah.
It is BattleBots.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:15):
Yeah, that's where it started airing.
David, you have control of theboard?
Uh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:22):
Um let's do Isle of Wonder for 600.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:27):
All right, Isle of Wonder 600.
Gotta catch them all.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:33):
Uh Pokemon.
David.
Okay.
Pokemon.
Good job.
It wouldn't let say.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:40):
I just unmuted instead of hitting the button.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:43):
Well, they kept saying buzzer buzzer locked, and
I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:46):
Yeah, because you if you but if you try to click it
too fast, it will lock you.
So I watched both of you getlocked at the same time, which
is pretty hilarious.
Uh yes, a 10-year-old would beable to answer that.
Uh Isle of Wonder 600, thatgives you an example.
David, where do you want to go?
Uh Isle of Wonder 800.
All right, this is gonna be fun.

(01:22:07):
Are you the imposter?
Phil.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:10):
Among Us.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:12):
Among Us.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:13):
Very good.
Yeah, I'm uh yep.
I know of Among Us.
I shouldn't know more aboutAmong Us.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:21):
10-year-old would know.
Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:24):
10-year-old would know.
Phil, where do you want to go?

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:26):
Let's go Isle of Wonder 4.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:28):
Okay.
Watch out for creepers andprepare for chicken jockey.
God.
Phil?
Minecraft.
Ah! It is Minecraft.
Buzz just before David.
I knew that one.
I knew that one.
Phil, where you want to go?

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:44):
Uh, Isle of Wonder uh 200, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:47):
He lives in a pineapple under the sea.
SpongeBob! No! David, yes.
Good job, Spongebob.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:55):
Square fans.
That wasn't the easy 200 one.
That was.
All right, David, you want to doa thousand?
Wait a second.
Can kids ten or under still dothat?
Like, know that if you tellthem?
I think so.

SPEAKER_04 (01:23:06):
SpongeBob is still pretty if you said it like he
lives in a pineapple under thesea.
If you said it like that, Ithink they get it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:13):
I think it's like opposite for us two, where the
show is really popular.
I think the movies are verypopular with kids opposed to the
show.
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (01:23:21):
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
David, you want to do athousand?
No job is too big.
No pup is too small.
Pop a trip.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:33):
Yes.
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
Would you not have gotten thatPhil?
Oh.
I I had I had an idea with pup,but like I didn't know what
their tackling was.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:41):
Honestly, that's why I put it in a thousand because I
wasn't sure that you'd get it.
Exactly.
I have a three-year-old and asix-year-old, so.
Yeah, it was said it was like itwas lobbyed up for it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:52):
David's a kid.
Yeah.
If it had been like Nihao KaiLan or something like that, I
would have nailed it.

unknown (01:23:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:58):
Yeah, it's uh become a lot of Paw Patrol now.
A hundred percent.
Uh David, you control the board.
Alright.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:05):
Uh let's do New Renaissance 600.

SPEAKER_04 (01:24:10):
The Iliad and Odyssey are two major ancient
Greek epic poems attributed tothis author.
Make sure you buzz in whenyou're ready.
Somebody's gotta get it.
Dumb when I hear it.
I will tell you, I just it's asingle name.
It's a single word.
Single name.
Phil.

(01:24:31):
Homer?
It is Homer.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:35):
I was like trying to say it.
It is Homer.
Very good.
I always threw out likePlay-Doh, and I was like, no,
it's not Play-Doh.
It's like, yeah, Homer.
Homer, yep.

SPEAKER_04 (01:24:44):
Phil, you control the board.
It's it was up there.
No, we all learned it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:48):
We all knew it.
Let's go to the Forge for 400.

SPEAKER_04 (01:24:52):
Okay.
Let's jump around.
This commonly cosplayed videogame character is known for her
brown braid, dual pistols, andbeing a tomb raider.
Phil.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:01):
Lorecroft.

SPEAKER_04 (01:25:03):
Lorecroft is correct.

SPEAKER_05 (01:25:07):
Uh Forge for 600.

SPEAKER_04 (01:25:09):
Alright.
This commonly cosplayed videogame character is known for
wearing dark armor, his whitehair, and using two swords.
David.
The Witcher.
Alright.
David, where do you want to go?
Let's keep going on the forge.
Do 800.

(01:25:30):
Alright.
Let's get competitive.
This commonly cosplayed animecharacter is known for their
green jumpsuit, black hair, andbeing very good at martial arts.

SPEAKER_05 (01:25:42):
Oh, I don't know the name of this character.

SPEAKER_04 (01:25:45):
Oh, it's crazy.
We went to a whole symphonyfilm.
I don't know the mother's day.

SPEAKER_05 (01:25:54):
I'm gonna be honest, until you said that I thought it
was from Benton.
So I wasn't even thinking aboutit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:59):
No.
Yeah, very good at martial arts.
Yeah, not so much.

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:03):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:04):
Unless he's got a jumpsuit.

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:06):
Yeah, I don't know that character.
That's okay.
If you don't know it, that'sokay.
Don't afford it, you don't haveto lose the points, but anybody
want to buzz in?
Gonna give it five, four, okay.
Three, two, one.
Let's see the answer.
Uh Rock Lee.
No.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:22):
Naruto.
No Naruto Naratu.

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:25):
I don't even have a single Naratu.
No Swaratu.
No Swaratu.
Naruto.
That'd be crazy.
David, do you want to go back tothe forge?
You still control the board?
Uh let's do 400 Limitless.
Alright, Limitless 400.
This character first appeared inthe 1981 arcade game Donkey

(01:26:46):
Kong, known as Jump Man.
Phil?
Mario.
What's Mario?
Very good.

SPEAKER_05 (01:26:54):
Uh let's keep going to 600 Limitless.

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:58):
This legendary robot has a horizontal spinning blade
that can spin at over 200 milesper hour.
If you know anything about therobots from shows like
BattleBots, this is the robotyou would know the name of.

SPEAKER_05 (01:27:16):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:17):
So if you do want to throw out a guess, it's probably
that one.
But you just gotta remember whatit is.

SPEAKER_05 (01:27:24):
I know I've watched that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:26):
When you see it, you might get mad.
Oh man.
It's not like obvious in name,but when you hear it, you'll
know, like, yeah, that of coursethat's what it is.
I almost thought about puttingthis at the thousand, but I
wasn't confident.
Now I regret it.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:27:43):
Uh we'll give it a I can picture the robot in my head
too.
I'm seeing it.
Yeah, you know the look.
You know the look.
I have no idea why can't morethan anyone.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:51):
We'll give it five, four, three, two.

SPEAKER_05 (01:27:54):
Bravedigger.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:55):
One.
No, it is tombstone.
Oh, no, yeah.
Tombstone.
Classic.
Classic fighting robot.

SPEAKER_05 (01:28:06):
Uh, limitless for 800.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:08):
This arcade game was one of the first shooters to
include a foot pedal for cover,making it feel more immersive
and interactive.

SPEAKER_05 (01:28:17):
Well, I hope this is right.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:19):
Phil.

SPEAKER_05 (01:28:20):
Time crisis?

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:21):
That's a crazy get.
Good job, Time Crisis.
I was literally like, I know fora fact we've played Time Crisis
together.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:29):
I was gonna say, I I don't think I ever played a lot
of Time Crisis.
I did a lot of like the uh whatwas the X?
Uh well, of course, House of theDead.
House of the Dead.
Was that X?
The one that was uh the rockone?
The Rock Shooter.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:42):
Oh yeah.
Whatever X.
I can't remember the name of it,but House of the Dead is the one
I was expecting someone to sayhere.
So I'm kind of I'm kind ofshocked.

SPEAKER_05 (01:28:51):
I remember Time Crisis being the first one with
that pedal because with House ofthe Dead you shoot off screen,
but with the pedal, you wouldyou would reload for Time
Crisis.

SPEAKER_04 (01:29:00):
Yeah.
Uh yeah, let's wrap upLimitless.
Alright, Limitless 4,000.
This company used to be one ofthe biggest arcade game
producers, but it officiallyleft the arcade business in 2022
after over 50 years.

SPEAKER_05 (01:29:16):
I have a guess, but not enough to risk a thousand
dollars.

SPEAKER_04 (01:29:20):
Okay.
I mean, you got space.

SPEAKER_05 (01:29:23):
No, stop that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:29:25):
Atari.
Alright, David.
Atari, no.
Oh, that one hurt.
That one hurt.
I mean, I'm gonna You swung forthe fences.
Phil.
Midway?
No, that would have been crazyif you got that.
Okay.
Uh Sega.
Sega.
Dang it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:42):
Yeah.
I was trying to think of onethat kind of went out and now is
even kind of coming back in.
Because Atari kind of fell tothe wayside and now they're
they're inching their way back.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 (01:29:54):
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, 100%.
No, they just they just left.
They were like, uh uh, no more.

SPEAKER_05 (01:29:59):
Uh Phil.
You still control the board.
Let's uh we haven't done MysticForest yet.
Let's go Mystic Forest Forest.

SPEAKER_04 (01:30:05):
400, okay.
What are the two most expensiveproperties in Monopoly?

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:15):
I don't remember.
Phil?

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:19):
Broadway and Park Place.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30:21):
That is boardworth.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:24):
Oh, I said I said board, I said Broadway, though.
Oh, did you?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:30):
I was thinking part place, but I couldn't board the
other one.
I'm gonna give you 200.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:34):
I'm gonna give you 200 for that.
That's fair.
I'm gonna be honest.
I didn't say boardwalk.
I'm a man of integrity.
I heard B and my brain was like,yeah.
That was it?

SPEAKER_00 (01:30:44):
Well, I was thinking part place, but I I couldn't
remember quite the broad place.
Broadway, boardwalk.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Broadway.

unknown (01:30:51):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:51):
Yeah, that's good.
Phil.
Uh Mystic Forest 2.
Let's go in the other way justin case.
You guys really hate those twos.
Daily double.
Ooh, another daily double.

SPEAKER_04 (01:31:01):
Crazy Daily Double.
Strength, dexterity,constitution, intelligence,
wisdom, charisma.
Our core ability scores usingthis famous tabletop game, Phil.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:12):
D.

SPEAKER_04 (01:31:13):
Dungeons and Dragons is correct.
Alright.
You control the board.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:19):
Um, let's do new Renaissance for two.

SPEAKER_04 (01:31:22):
What three colors are considered primary colors in
art?

unknown (01:31:28):
Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_04 (01:31:29):
Uh-oh.
I was pretty confident I putthis one at 200.
Three colors?
Yeah, there's three primarycolors in art.
Uh, what are those three colors?
RGB.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:40):
Red, green, blue.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:42):
No.
David.
Red, yellow, blue.
It's yellow, okay.
Why is it called RGB?

SPEAKER_04 (01:31:53):
I don't know.
I double checked that answertoo.
Oh, yeah.
It's true.
Alright, David, you're back incontrol of the board here.
Alright, let's uh let's do that400 new renaissance.
Okay.
This storytelling mediumrequires you to read the pages
and panels from right to left.

(01:32:14):
Phil.

SPEAKER_05 (01:32:15):
Manga.

SPEAKER_04 (01:32:16):
It wouldn't be no.
That is correct.
Phil, you're back in control.

SPEAKER_05 (01:32:24):
Uh Mystic Forest 600.

SPEAKER_04 (01:32:27):
Okay.
This chess piece is limited todiagonal movement and cannot
jump over other bees.
Phil.

SPEAKER_05 (01:32:37):
Oh.

SPEAKER_04 (01:32:39):
Not you not letting me finish.
Before you were just like, oh, Iguess I'm gonna I guess I'm
gonna do something else.

SPEAKER_01 (01:32:46):
I saw a chess and I was like, nope.
Not me.

SPEAKER_04 (01:32:50):
Okay.
Wow.
Lack of confidence here.
Okay.
Not even like a thought.
Poor shit.

SPEAKER_01 (01:33:00):
No, uh, it is.
The grand the grand mage.
Nope, a bishop.

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:07):
Bishop.
Yeah.
What is Sorcerer Supreme?

SPEAKER_04 (01:33:11):
Uh Phil, you uh you have control of the board.

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:15):
Let's go to Forge for 200.

SPEAKER_04 (01:33:17):
Okay, final 200.
This commonly cosplayedsuperhero is known for his red
suit, katanas, and breaking thefourth wall.
David.
Deadpool.
That is correct.
Deadpool.
Mr.
Pool.
You're back in control, David.
Where you wanna go?
Let's do the Forge for theThousand.
Forge for a Thousand.

(01:33:38):
Completing that category.
Let's do it.
This commonly cosplayed animecharacter wears a straw hat, red
vest, and will one day becomeKing of the Pirates.
I hate that you're I'm not gonnalet you answer, possibly, Phil
here.
I and I'm gonna let you knownow, I want the full name.
What?
I don't want Do you have the doyou have the partial?

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:01):
Luffy.

SPEAKER_04 (01:34:02):
Okay, I need his full name.
The pirate.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34:08):
Okay, see I I would have known the name Luffy.

SPEAKER_04 (01:34:12):
But it's barely.
Okay, so uh Phil, I'm gonna markyou.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34:17):
What do you mean?
David, do you want to buzz inand guess?
No, I don't.
I I know the name Luffy, butthat's like the the most of what
I would know.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:34:28):
That's understandable.
That's okay, yeah.
That's save save the save thepoints.
Uh monkey D Luffy.
Luffy.
So uh Phil, you remember it.
You remember it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:38):
It's not important, it's not gonna come up again.

SPEAKER_04 (01:34:40):
Uh uh, David, you're back in control.
Uh, where do you want to go?
Um in Renaissance 1000.
Alright, New Renaissance 1000.
What is the term for the whitespace between comic panels?

unknown (01:34:56):
Between comic panels.

SPEAKER_04 (01:34:59):
Mm-hmm.
It's got a name.
I did not.
Butter would be so disappointedin us.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35:08):
I'm gonna hear it and I'm gonna be like, uh, but I
can't.

SPEAKER_04 (01:35:13):
I love how I had we had the opportunity to give
something like this to Bodder,and we didn't do it.
So between the comic panels.
Mm-hmm.
Yep, there is a term.
Alright, five, four, three, two,and a one.
Uh, the answer is gutters.

(01:35:34):
I did not know that.
They're called gutters.
Yeah.
Interesting.
The more you know.
David.
I know.
Oh, that wasn't a good one.
It was 4,000.
That's true.
It is still very close.
Three uh three spots left.
Okay, let's do that thousandmystic forest.
Alright.
What are the two highest scoringletters in Scrabble?

(01:35:57):
There are two of them.
What is it?
I will make things interesting.
If you can give me one, I willgive you 500 points.
Okay, David.
Z is one of them.
Okay.
So let me get it.
Oh, and Q.

(01:36:18):
Okay.
Okay, I knew Z was 500.

SPEAKER_01 (01:36:20):
I knew Z was a higher one.
Yeah.
There we go.
Alright.

SPEAKER_04 (01:36:24):
So I forgot I could only do it in certain
increments, so I'm gonna giveyou six for that.
There you go.
Oh, because uh 200 increments,yeah.
Alright, so you got 600 forthat, David.
Great job.
Uh, where do you want to go?
Ah, new Renaissance 800.
Alright.
An object or goal that drivesthe plot, but is often

(01:36:45):
unimportant by itself is oftenreferred to as what that drives
the object or goal is oftenunimportant by itself.
So if there's an object or goalthat's driving the plot, but
it's often unimportant byitself, typically, someone might

(01:37:08):
refer that uh refer to that aswhat it would be a what.
I know for a fact one of youknow it.
I know there's no confidence.
I know.
It's tough.
It's tough.
This is where this is where therisks either pay off or hurt

(01:37:31):
you.
I'm gonna count down.
Five, four, three, two, Phil?

SPEAKER_01 (01:37:39):
Plot device.

SPEAKER_04 (01:37:40):
Oh, that's no.

SPEAKER_01 (01:37:42):
I was thinking, I was gonna say that.
I was gonna say that.
Not a plot device.

SPEAKER_04 (01:37:47):
There's a specific name.
It's very specific.
It is very identifiable.
You know this, David.
What do they call it?
They call it a what?
Think of your favorite moviewhere there's something that
draws the fire.

(01:38:08):
No, no, no, hold on a second.
It's not often unimportant.
It's just kind of there.
It's just kinda there.
We're past time.
Yeah, we are past time.
Alright.
It's called a MacGuffin.
Oh, okay, okay.
I wouldn't agree.

SPEAKER_00 (01:38:26):
I don't really think of that word very often.
So yeah, I don't think I wasthinking like a plot twist?
A like a McGuffin twist.

SPEAKER_04 (01:38:34):
No, that's okay.
That's okay.
Phil.
I did entice Phil enough to do aplot hole?
Plot hole, yeah.
Yeah.
Alright, uh, we're gonna do ourfinal category, Mystic Forest
800.
Alright.
The object of this game is toform a row of five poker chips
on the board without tabletopbetween team members.
This question was specificallyfor Phil.

(01:38:56):
What is it?
It's Sequence.
Sequence.

SPEAKER_01 (01:39:02):
Oh, I did not know that one.

SPEAKER_04 (01:39:04):
It is it is sequence.
That is a board game we love.
We reference.
We love sequence.

SPEAKER_05 (01:39:13):
Phil, talk about sequence for a minute.
Sequence is a fantastic game.
Another one of the reasons it'swe love it so much is you have
to play quietly so no one canreally yell.
So it's a lot of fun.
It's a lot of fun.
And it relies on you and yourpartner like being on the same
page.
So it requires a lot ofstrategy.
It's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_04 (01:39:31):
Very funny.
Um, all right.
Before the final question popsup, and you guys will enter your
answers.
You must make a wager.
You can wager some, you canwager all, but you must make a
wager.
So both of you guys will make awager.
Uh, what do you want to wager?
I think it lets you do thatright, right, Phil?

SPEAKER_05 (01:39:50):
It lets you do it.
You can put it down on the onthe phone.

SPEAKER_04 (01:39:52):
Yep.
Yeah, it should let you selectit.
So you can go all or nothing.
You could go nothing, I guesstechnically is an option.

unknown (01:40:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:01):
So pick your amount.
Phil has wagered.
Alright.
You've both wagered.
Power, mine, time, space,reality, and soul make up these
iconic items.

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:14):
Are we supposed to buzz in or do we type?

SPEAKER_04 (01:40:17):
Do you enter in your answer?
See Oh.
Wait.
You're supposed to be able totype it.
Let me try to.
Mine gives me a place to enter.
Yeah, does it?
Alright, well, David, you youenter yours in, and then I'll
make Phil verbally give it.
But if it lets you enter it,then you should be born.

(01:40:40):
Weird.
I don't know why I'd have amessage.
Phil, text me.
Phil, message me the answer inDiscord.
But David, you have a spot toactually type in an answer?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it says I can seeyour answer.
That's super weird.
Okay.
Alright.
So I've got both of youranswers.
Uh, David.
Infinity stones is correct.

(01:41:02):
Phil also said infinity stones.
And that is our answer.
Now it's gonna depend on whowagered and what you wagered.
And Phil did wager it all andhas won in two.
By just the littlest amount.

SPEAKER_05 (01:41:21):
Congratulations, Phil.
If you it, David, if you oh, butyou had you wagered it all.
I wagered just enough to beahead of you in case I got it
right.
In case we both got it right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:41:30):
Yeah, I wager it's I wager all the whole 2200.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, by two, by 200.
Oh my god.
Dang, dang.

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:39):
That's a crazy pull.
Fun.
But yeah, but that was uh popculture jeopardy.
That that went way better thanlast time, Phil.
I think I've I think I'vecracked it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:41:48):
Yes, yes.
No, it takes some time.
Uh factile is a uh it's a fickletool, but it's it's very fun.

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:54):
Yeah, like yeah.
Oh, a lot of fun.
A lot of fun.
But uh yeah, David, thank you somuch for entertaining us with
that game, talking aboutInfinityCon.
And uh, I know we reallyappreciate it.
Phil, uh, I'll let you kind ofwrap it on up here as we get
David uh to the end of thisepisode.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:12):
Yeah, David, thank you so much for uh taking the
time out to talk to us aboutyour journey and also just kind
of nerding out with us.
We very much appreciate it.
Cannot wait to see you and theteam in just about 30 days from
the time of recording.
This episode will be out at theend of October.
So please let everybody know.
This will be one of the lastthings they hear in the couple
weeks leading to InfinityCon.
Uh, one more time, let peopleknow about InfinityCon

(01:42:33):
Gainesville.
And then, of course, if you wantto go into InfinityCon Tally in
2026, you can.
But yeah, let everybody knowwhere they can find you and
where they can go to supportInfinityCon.

SPEAKER_00 (01:42:43):
Yeah, InfinityCon Gainesville will be at the
Alaska County Sports and EventsCenter on November 15th and
16th.
And um, we will be uh there bothdays, and uh, you can go to
infinitycon.com forward slashGainesville or just
InfinityCon.com.
We'll send you there.
And uh yeah, we look forward toseeing you guys there.
The Wait for It podcast will bethere, and we're excited to uh

(01:43:05):
to have technically year two ofInfinityCon Gainesville Sands
Hurricanes.
So yes.

SPEAKER_04 (01:43:13):
It has been a lot of knock on wood with how the
hurricane season has been going.
Yeah.
So yeah, yeah.
Now fingers, fingers crossed.

SPEAKER_05 (01:43:22):
I wanted to ask you, David, actually, really quick.
It's kind of funny because thisum popped up recently, and we
have a group of friends ofvendors and artists, and we were
talking about Tallahassee ingeneral.
I don't know if we were talkingabout InfinityCon.
And Pedro's tacos and tequilabar came up just naturally
because me and Eric and Coreywent there right before the
night before InfinityConTallahassee.

(01:43:42):
And they also, this group offriends also knew of Pedro's, so
I'm just curious if that's areally popular restaurant
amongst your group as well,because uh I had a meal there
that's haunting me.
So I can't wait to go back.

SPEAKER_00 (01:43:55):
Oh man, so I am I am unfortunately one of the only
like I think most people areokay, but like I'm one of the
ones that like is gonna want togo to Mexican place like all the
time.
Martin Pierre will not usuallyeat it with me in a Mexican
place.
So yeah, so it is very good andI love it.
But yeah, we have we have notbeen that often.

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:14):
This is this but this podcast is not sponsored by
Pedros, just so you guys know.
I just wanted to wanted to knowif it goes.
But one day, one day, one daywe're gonna we're we're gonna do
Tony Scan.
Hey Pedros, tacos can atInfinity Con.

SPEAKER_04 (01:44:27):
Tony's a Nicala, Pedro's Delhasse.
David, I know you I know it'sonly year two in Gainesville,
but is there a Pedro's likelevel place at Gainesville?
Because me and Phil were alsotalking about where are we gonna
go to eat.

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:41):
So we don't just end up at Dave and Buster's across
the street.
We want to go somewhere, youknow.

SPEAKER_04 (01:44:46):
We also want to go to Dave and Busters, who's one
of the sponsors, but no, Daveand Busters has been super
awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (01:44:52):
Um, Kendrick, the GM, is is amazing.
But yeah, you know, there Imean, yeah, there's Dave and
Busters, but uh man, there's somuch chain stuff there.
Like thinking about like a localplace that like grabs my
attention.
I mean, there's a lot of greatbreweries.
There's Swamphead and there'sthere's stuff like that, and
there's like some great foodtrucks.
But I'll have to get back to youguys.

(01:45:12):
Like, there's uh the problem isis like the venue is in a great
spot as far as like location tolike the interstate, but all the
cool kind of fun stuff, likelike local stuff is downtown,
which is like four or five milesaway.

SPEAKER_03 (01:45:27):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (01:45:28):
So like near UF, there's like uh the top.
Oh my gosh, the top.
It's a burger place and it'sfantastic.
The top, if you want to sponsormy my eating and drinking habit,
I would uh be very okay withthat.
But yeah, the top, the top isamazing.
There's a few, there's a Mexicanplace downtown um in the Sun
Center there that's also reallygood near the top.

(01:45:49):
But yeah, yeah, there's there'sa few uh Lucy's is like a bar
and pub that that has some somecool stuff.
But yeah, the top, I mean Iguess like something for like
dinner stuff.
Um they're usually packed andthey have great burgers and
yeah, so that that's a goodplace.
There we go.
That's perfect.

SPEAKER_04 (01:46:09):
Yeah, that's a that's a good start.
That's a good start.
So, Phil, we gotta make ourreservations to the top, but
yes, make sure to buy yourtickets to InfinityCon
Gainesville.
David, thank you so much forjumping on for this episode.
This was a lot of fun.
Yeah.
Uh and Phil, as we wrap up thisepisode, if you want to take us
into the home stretch, we'll seeeverybody in Gainesville in

(01:46:30):
November.

SPEAKER_05 (01:46:31):
Yeah, everybody, uh, thanks so much for joining us.
And everything you need uhregarding the Wait Forward
podcast, as well as InfinityCon,is going to be in the show notes
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(01:47:14):
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But you can talk to us in personat InfinityCon in just a couple
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So we hope to see you there.
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SPEAKER_04 (01:47:29):
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Supporters are currently gettingbehind the scenes and early
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