Creator Spotlight: Lalaine Art Geek

Lalaine Art Geek shares her journey as a cartoonist, illustrator, and comic artist, revealing how her distinctive bold, colorful style has evolved from composition notebooks to digital platforms and print. Her vibrant approach to character design draws inspiration from some of your favorite franchises in pop culture, creating a unique style that pops off the screen and stands out at conventions!

• Creating character-focused art with a distinctive cartoon style influenced by Western animation
• Building an audience through social media by sharing sketchbook work and art process videos
• Transitioning from just creating art to selling at conventions starting in 2021
• Developing a unique aesthetic described as "digital art on paper" with bold, solid colors
• Collaborating with partner Philip on "Stitches," an original horror comic that has resonated with fans
• Navigating the convention scene both as an attendee and vendor
• Finding balance between creating art for business versus personal enjoyment
• Dealing with the emotional highs of creative success and lows of revenue fluctuations
• Planning for future projects including a second issue of "Stitches" and potential Kickstarter
• Maintaining artistic passion by setting aside time for personal creativity and self-care

You can find Lalaine Art Geek on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube under the handle Lalaine Art Geek, and check out her comic "Stitches" on Amazon Kindle.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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This is the Wait For it Podcast.
Hey, everyone, welcome back tothe Wait For it Podcast.

(00:36):
I am your co-host, phil Barrera, aka Phil the Filipino.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
And I'm your other co-host, Mr Eric Almighty, and
we have a very special guest forthis edition of Creator
Spotlight.
You may have seen her at BullMatsuri or among our friend
group of creatives from theconvention scene and Phil.
This is long overdue, so I'mexcited to jump into this one.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, we have met so many people through Ivan, which
is like he is our anchor being.
So everything surrounds Ivan,between Ivan and Corey, the
photographer.
Those are like our two anchorbeings that we just kind of like
branch out from there.
So we are just making our waythrough our very, very talented
friend group and artist group,in this case as we bring in our

(01:22):
friend, lelaine Art Geek as ourguest for this month's Creator
Spotlight.
Lelaine, it's so good to seeyou.
It's so crazy.
We don't see each other reallythat much, even though you're
like one of our artist friendsthat is in town.
So we're all just so busy, butit's good to see you.
Thank you for being heretonight and how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I'm good.
Thank you so much for having metonight and I'm super excited
to be here and to finally havethis episode.
And you're right, it is verymuch long overdue.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, I think we sort of first started talking about
it like in 2023, maybe, orsomething like that.
It's been a while, yeah, thatwe've been running in the same
circles and then you know again,gotten to just build this
friend group and have a lot offun and get to see everybody and
get to know everybody.
So we're excited to share yourstory and your work with
everybody here this evening.
So, before we get started,please take that time to
introduce yourself, your handlesand also what you do.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, so my name is Lelaine, but my online handle I
am my business name is calledLelaine Art Geek and it's in the
name.
So I love to create art, ofcourse, but specifically like
characters, original charactersand fan characters.
So normally when you see mywork, it's usually just

(02:36):
character focused and I do a lotof like cartoon style related
art.
So it's definitely a like waydifferent from like the
traditional anime style, but Idraw a lot of influence from
like the Western cartoons andlike Western movies and stuff
like that.
So I have like a bunch ofinfluences that inspire my style

(02:58):
.
And what I usually get commentsabout for my art is it's just
so bright and bold and very likejust cartoony.
In general, a lot of peoplecompare my style to like Gravity
Falls, scott Pilgrim, like justeither of those two, and I do
find that a compliment because Ilove those two IPs.

(03:19):
So I'm just when it comes toart, I love to just be
expressive and create storiesand characters.
I usually see myself as like anillustrator and I'm slowly
dipping my toes into like thecomics world again.
So I would also consider myselfa comic artist and, I guess,
content creator, because I alsolove creating like reels and

(03:43):
posts on social media and myfollowing has grown immensely
over the past like year and ahalf, because I've just been
kind of sharing my process more.
I kind of shifted my contentfrom like showing off my
business, which it's still likea thing, of course, but my
content itself on social mediahas shifted from like business

(04:04):
to like sketchbook work andbecause of that it's just grown
and I think, like the process ofmaking art is, I feel that it's
reaching to more people, sothat's why I like to do it, and
then, of course, my styledevelops along the way and, yeah
, I feel like I've built like abigger community because of that
and I'm just so happy to justbe able to create every day,

(04:28):
even with my busy schedule.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, you're truly one of those examples of what a
beneficial tool social media canbe, especially.
You know, when you like, lookat your YouTube page and then,
of course, the Instagram, tiktokand everything like that.
And one thing I also love aboutyour YouTube page is that it's
become very, I think, beneficialfor other artists and vendors
too, as you kind of navigate thedifferent shows and talk about,

(04:53):
like you know, what works, whathasn't worked and maybe things
like you want you'd like to seeimproved and everything like
that.
So that's incredibly beneficial, especially when you run in the
circles that you do and Ireally love that about your
content as well To kind of getstarted, to just kind of like
talk about the beginning.
At what point did you thinkthat, oh man, this could
actually be something I can doas a career and really take it

(05:18):
to the next level?
When did that happen and likehow early did you think maybe I
could do this?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, I would say probably I know this is going to
be like the most cliche thing,but probably when I was like
super young, I'd say like inmiddle school.
But when it comes to likeactually promoting myself as an
artist that sells physical work,that did not spark the interest
until like 2021.

(05:44):
And I was hesitant to like putmyself out there because I'm a
shy person.
So it definitely made meuncomfortable at first because I
have to like put myself outthere.
However, like I don't regretdoing that one bit, but I've
always had like a really biginterest in art when I was
growing up and I would also saythat I've always had an interest

(06:08):
in, like the cartoony style.
I tried, I tried other styles,but there's just something about
the cartoon style that I'm justlike I can literally be
flexible with this style and,like you know, change it however
I want and kind of mold it in acertain way, and I decided to
do that over the years and kindof just shape it, even during

(06:29):
college and everything.
So I would say middle schoolwas when I knew I wanted to do
this seriously for the rest ofmy life.
But I think in 2021, itdefinitely put my foot through
the door with like growing mycommunity and like I guess, like
making more connections withother artists within the in my

(06:51):
city and also like outside ofthe city and just growing those
connections through artistalleys and conventions.
So I think like a lot of theselike moments in my life have
made me think about like, ohyeah, this is definitely what I
want to do for the rest of mylife, no matter how old I am.
Like I don't think age or, I'msorry, I don't think art should

(07:12):
be an age, I don't think thereshould be a limit with art.
So yeah it's.
I've always had that passionall my life.
But I think, like just later onin life, when I'm more of like
an adult, I've learned more oflike how important it is to have
a career that you're sopassionate about and how
important it is to also justwork hard for that and like kind

(07:35):
of break out of your comfortzone every once in a while,
because you never know.
You never know where it's goingto take you.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, I think that's amazing and I think, lillane,
the thing that I noticed themost with your art is how much
it jumps from the print or thesticker or whatever you know art
you have on display to.
Now how do you get from, Idon't know, using a crayon to
using the tools and theresources that you're using?
I mean, when we look at yoursocial media and seeing the

(08:15):
sketching, I mean it's beautiful, it's mesmerizing really to
look at and you're using so manyamazing different techniques
and tools.
So, like, what has that beenlike, from those basic days of
just creating art to the styleand the colorization that you
add to it now?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, so fun fact, I remember my sketchbooks back in
elementary and middle school andeven like entering high school,
were composition notebooks, soI always use those to like
create sketchbooks or, sorry, tocreate art and like those
sketchbooks, and also I do comicbooks in those composition

(08:53):
notebooks as well, but it's justmore of like getting
inspiration from other artistsonline.
That's where I decided you knowwhat I think I should like
explore more mediums and likeexplore how my style can reflect
in different in these mediums.
So fun fact, I I'm a really bigfan of Crayola, like as a brand

(09:15):
, so I've always used theircolored pencils.
I love their watercolors and Ijust started using those a lot
and I guess that was thebeginning of like how my style
became as what people like tosay digital art on paper,
because I love to use like thosesolid, bold colors.
I like it when it's more ofjust like one solid color to

(09:39):
kind of like paint by number myart, rather than just like using
actual watercolors for itsintended purpose.
And then that's what you know.
That's the interesting part, Ifeel, because it's really hard
to achieve that with watercolor,no matter what brand you use.
And then I slowly started to getmore into like line work and

(10:03):
line art.
I did a little bit of sketchingto like practice a little bit
with different, I think, likePrismacolor pencils.
I did a lot for that, so, but Iknew that for art in general,
bold is better.
So I just I always love thecombination of like using a pen
or, I'm sorry, like sketchingfirst and then using a pen and

(10:25):
then using like a solid colormedium, such as like alcohol,
markers or watercolors, and thenI guess, like for later on in
life when I started to learn howto do digital art, I've used
programs like Paint Tool Sai.
I never touched Photoshop in mylife, which is funny because

(10:46):
people think I do but I don't,so it's always been like Paint
Tool Sai and like Procreatelater on in life, when I have an
iPad.
And yeah, I hope that'sanswering the question.
I don't know if I'm answeringit properly, but no, no, no,
that's great.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And it's just it's so interesting because, again, you
know, you start with like abrand like Crayola and that's
like, that's the.
The limit of my mind is like,yeah, that makes sense, but
there's I know that one.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Thing.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
But then there's all these other things that, like
again, how you get the color onthe page is just like again,
it's almost magical, phil right,like when you look at it.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, One of the things that cause, I'm sure, and
your, your booth and yourartwork already stood out before
we even had kind of likeconnected through Ivan, because
you know, I think, all of usobviously we go to a lot of
shows, we go to a lot ofconventions and sometimes it can
get a little repetitive andwe're looking for those booths
that pop out, and yourscertainly does.
So I had remembered your boothand your art even before we had

(11:43):
connected and become friends.
So you know, one of the thingsyou had talked about as well as
when you were introducingyourself was comics.
So that's obviously a greatsetup and I want to talk about
it early is Stitches and me andEric both have a copy.
So talk a little bit about youknow your kind of, your
background with comics as well.
What made this project?

(12:04):
You know, know what went intothis project and also you know
what's your just got abackground with comics in
general.
Were you a comic book collectorwhen you were younger or where
did all that come from?

Speaker 3 (12:14):
yeah, um.
So what's interesting is Inever was like a comic book
collector, but I loved catchingup on web comics.
Um, there were a bunch of likeindie artists that had their own
like webcomics, but theyweren't held on like Webtoon or
anything.
There was like their ownwebsite.
So I would just I wouldbookmark those websites and just

(12:36):
catch up with them wheneverthey have like a new page or a
new episode.
So I've always had a passion forcomics and I've actually
attempted to create like comicprojects over and over and over
again.
Unfortunately, it is truly adedication.
It's a truly a passion craftand it's something that you have

(12:56):
to work really hard for, evenwhen your schedule is busy.
So, sadly, I've been kind offailing over and over again with
those projects, but they'repersonal projects so it's not as
hard hitting as like if youworked for someone.
However, I think that passionreignited again when I met
Philip, who is my partner rightnow and he is the one that wrote

(13:20):
Stitches, and so me and him wecollaborated on it and it made
me realize like this is thereason why I am an artist is
because I wanted to tell stories, and I think like Stitches was
a really good way for me topractice that storytelling skill
again, because I knew that Iwanted to have a purpose when it

(13:42):
comes to creating art, like,yes, I, you know, know how to
create colorful characters andpeople love that.
But I also want it to be whereit's also kind of meaningful and
like it connects people as well.
So, even though this story inStitches it's kind of like it's
like a horror, I'd say like acutesy horror genre, like yeah,
not everyone can relate to it,but at least it still tells a

(14:04):
story where people can at leastrelate to the characters, and
that that is what I want.
So, um, I know that Philipwants that as well, and we're
just so, so thankful andgrateful that we pretty much did
sell out all of our copies thefirst go around with Stitches.
So, thank you so much for buyinga copy, and it means a lot that

(14:24):
this project has gotten to thepoint that it is um.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
So yeah, shout out to phil shout out to my buddy phil
see you in a couple weeks.
This episode comes out afterbold, but it's always fun to see
each other.
But yeah, and I love also andthis is also very prevalent in
some of your other art as well Ilove the witchy vibe.
As soon as I got into it I waslike, oh hell, yeah, I love this
, so it's great.

(14:49):
So it was an easy pickup forboth of us, right?
Eric?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, it was, and you know, when it came down to it,
like we knew it was going to begood.
And it's not just because theartwork was going to be good but
also the fact that there are somany different like mutual
interests that we have just kindof looking at your art.
So I'm kind of curious, lelaine, what is the fandoms that have
kind of shaped your taste today,like when it comes to a project

(15:16):
, like Stitches, when it comesto what art you want to do next
or what you know characters youwant to give your
interpretations of, like?
What are those key cornerstonefandoms in pop culture that have
been drawn to you over theyears?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, and I'm assuming this can be like
anything like anime, cartoon,anything.
So I I already mentioned oneand it's Gravity Falls.
I feel that that style and thatshow altogether definitely
shaped who I am, and it's funnybecause I love Scott Pilgrim.

(15:51):
But I would very much only graba little bit of that influence
because I wasn't as invested inthat than Gravity Falls.
So definitely that show forsure there's so many like other
shows too.
But I guess, like for anime, Iwould consider this is going to
be a really weird show tomention because it's like, oh,

(16:15):
this influenced your style, likethat's weird, but it's Kill la
Kill.
I love the style of Kill laKill, I just love Studio Trigger
as a whole and I know Ivan'sgoing to listen to this episode
and he is going to know that Ilove Kill la Kill and Studio
Trigger altogether.
So I guess, like if for ananime influence, it would be
that studio just as a whole, butspecifically Kill la Kill,

(16:37):
because that is the first StudioTrigger show that I fell in
love with.
It's funny because, like I'dsay, a majority of, like Cartoon
Network, nickelodeon showsdefinitely shaped my style.
For sure it's just like, Iguess, as like a funny way to
put it.
It's usually the shows that havelike the cutesy vibe to it,

(17:00):
like Steven Universe, star vsthe Forces of Evil.
I already mentioned GravityFalls and then recently Owl
House.
I just started watching thatand I would definitely consider
that to be an inspirationbecause I love the creator of
that show.
I actually caught up with herart years ago and I'm just so
grateful for like her supportand just for making a show that,

(17:22):
like you know, I can use asinspiration.
It's just great and I cannotbelieve I forgot to say this has
been Hotel and Hell of a Boss.
I know that's definitely a showthat's super popularized, but I
followed the creator for thoseshows as well for years, so
she's also a really biginspiration for my style.

(17:43):
Yeah, I don't really have likespecific, specific ones because,
like I mentioned before it justI draw from so much inspiration
just from like real life, fromlike from cartoons and media
that I can't really pinpoint.
But I can definitely pinpointlike what I love when it comes

(18:05):
to like my favorite shows andit's usually because of the
style.
Like I would probably watch itif I like the art style.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
So that's kind of how I deem it yeah, and you know
that's perfect because GravityFalls 100% makes sense.
Owl House, like I couldabsolutely see that being an
inspiration.
And it's so funny you bring upStudio Trigger because again, I
just mentioned how much like thething that I associate with you
so much is how that color kindof attacks you, like it, like it

(18:34):
just gets your eye and likeStudio Trigger work specifically
like Kill la Kill is one ofmany examples is exactly what I
would think of like an animeterms when it comes to that.
So very funny that you madethat correlation.
And Phil, again, a lot of thosefranchises were at least aware
of has been we love a hell of aboss, is one that we really we

(18:55):
keep saying we need to get to.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
It's like on our list and we have we like circled it
so long ago, but there's justthat queue is so long, sooner
than later.
The queue keeps building and,sooner, sooner than later, the
cue keeps building and buildingsooner than later, but yeah yeah
, killa, killa makes a whole lotof sense.
I need to finish that.
Uh, so it's when I started.
It's like one of the firstanime I ever watched, even
before eric you had startedrecommending me anime like our

(19:17):
buddy, jay, had recommended tome so long ago.
But all of those answersdefinitely make sense.
Um, what a transition to.
You know, of course, where wehave met and where you know, of
course, all of our friend grouphas met in terms of the
convention scene, and so youtalked about, like you know, you
kind of got into it like in2021.

(19:37):
Were you a convention goerbefore you jumped into this
world already?
Because Eric and I were alwayslike, man, it's just cool to be
here, but like we could, wenever even fathom that we could
be part of the, the circuit,like the way that we are now.
So what was your backgroundwith conventions and also what's
it like now to be, you know,behind the scenes and actually
part of that world and vendingand being an artist, allie.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, so funny enough .
My first convention wasJacksonville Anime Day all the
way back in 2011.
Have you guys been to Anime Dayback in the day?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I didn't know that was a thing.
What were we doing in 2011?
It's so interesting.
I think we missed that.
Train Best to not think about.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, I don't think it's a thing anymore,
unfortunately, but it's just aone day, like art or anime
market.
When it was held at the EmbassyHotel that I live very close to
now.
However, it was definitely likeit was literally Baby's first
convention gone right, becauseit just had everything that you

(20:40):
would expect at a convention,but just so much smaller, so
it's not overwhelming.
So, yeah, I started going tocons and like since 2011 and
it's definitely like uh hasgrown ever since going to cons
and I'd say my big con, like mybig girl con I've been to, was

(21:00):
Wasabi Con, but that was when itwas held.
I forgot the name, but it waslike it's the one, it's the
hotel that was next to dave andbusters, like it's that oh, yeah
, yeah yeah, I forgot the hotelname but it was literally when
it was still there and then theymoved it to the lexington in
downtown and then they moved itto the prime osborne.

(21:23):
So, like I've been there, I'vebeen to baby's first wasabi con
too, and I was.
You know, I didn't reallycosplay as much.
The only cosplay I quoteunquote cosplay I did was rin
from blue exorcist.
But I was so scared and likenervous that I forgot my wig.
But I forgot my wig on purposebecause I was just scared.

(21:45):
So I just had his outfit withhis sword.
I didn't even have his tailbecause I didn't know how to
make a tail, so I just went withhis outfit and I pretended to
be like the gender bent versionof Rin.
So I was like, yeah, because Ialready have dark hair and
everything.
It was really sweet.
That was my only time ofcosplaying, because every other
time I just wore a t andeverything.
It was really sweet.
That was my only time ofcosplaying, because every other

(22:06):
time I just wore a t-shirt andit was really silly.
Sadly, I was one of thoseconvention goers back in the day
where I only spent money in thevendor's room.
And I never explored ArtistAlley because I didn't know that
was a thing.
So when I realized it was athing, I remember telling myself

(22:27):
I cannot believe I keptspending my money in vendors
room and not here, because thisis, like you know, artist Alley.
Like back then I was still I'mstill an artist, like I was
definitely practicing my craftback then.
So I looked at everyone.
I'm like, oh my God, likeeveryone's so talented.
And I just at everyone.
I'm like, oh my god, likeeveryone's so talented, and I
just bought every literallybought almost everything from

(22:48):
Artist Alley because I just gottoo excited and so that was kind
of like my experience from hereon out.
And then, yeah, in 2021, Istarted vending for the first
time and then now I'm stilldoing this, five years later,
and I will say, like, over theyears of like actually working a
convention, I do see consdifferently.

(23:10):
Like usually, like when I havea convention coming up as a
convention goer back in the day,I would be so excited.
In the inside I would be likegiddy and like nervous, because
usually I have dreams about like, uh, missing conventions and
like getting the FOMO, so I getnightmares about that, but now,

(23:32):
like as a like a conventionartist and like who sells at
cons, I don't get as excitedlike I do get excited still, but
I also see it as work.
So it's also responsibility, aresponsibility which, of course,
like if you love your job youdon't ever have to work a day in
your life.
But it is something to considerbecause if it is like, for a

(23:55):
while it was my only source ofincome.
So usually I would get just atad bit stressed before a
convention.
But normally, normally like Iwould just be excited and mainly
excited just to see my friendsagain and of course, like being
able to travel and everything.
But I will say my perspectiveabout conventions and just

(24:17):
conventions in general haschanged slightly for the worse.
But sometimes me and Philip wewould plan to just go to
conventions but just like notwork a convention and just
actually have a good time.
And it is good to have thosebreaks in between.
Like I know friends who justconstantly work at conventions

(24:38):
and I understand because youhave to hustle.
But to me I'm just likesometimes you have to experience
a convention just like as aconvention goer again, you got
to spark that passion and likethat, the love to just have fun
at a con and not have to bestuck behind a table all day,
you know.
So, yeah, it's changed for sure, but I don't regret it.

(25:01):
I've met so much, so manyincredible people, of course,
including this friend group thatI'm a part of.
I love them to it.
I've met so much, so manyincredible people, of course,
including this friend group thatI'm a part of.
I love them to death.
And every experience I haveworking a convention I will
always cherish, because it'salways a learning experience,
for sure.
But I think like it kind ofjust it contributes to like
adulthood as well, like the needto earn money and the need to

(25:23):
kind of like think about moneywhen it comes to cons, instead
of, like when you're younger,you just you can do whatever you
want, you spend your money, butlike you don't have bills to
pay, you know, but now you do,and so I kind of see cons as
like both a good time to traveland to visit friends, but also I
got to earn money.
So, it's half and half.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Because, as a convention goer, you don't have
to worry about what if theInternet goes out, what if it's
hot?
What if there's no airconditioning in here?
How far away is the parking lotso that I have to take all my
stuff in.
You know, these are things thatyou really don't think about
when you are a convention goer,and I love that answer as far as
you and Phillip setting asidetime to go enjoy a convention,
because it's similar kind oflike with us.

(26:07):
Eric, like I don't listen toany pop culture podcast.
I don't really listen or watchto a lot of pop culture
influencers because it's what wedo all the time.
So, like when I do take in apodcast or a YouTube page, it's
totally different from what weare doing here for the most part
.
So I think that's very, veryimportant in making sure that
you immerse yourself in ways andmake sure that it's not just

(26:28):
work.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, no, I would agree with that.
I mean, sometimes I do diveinto it because it's like my
comfort area and maybe that'swhat you do.
And I want to know, like, inaddition to you know you said
you said you set aside time todo some of those things.
What else do you set aside timeto do that is like your
relaxation zone, like, are youdiving into some of the stuff

(26:50):
that surrounds your work?
Are you completely shutting itdown?
No electronics, reading a book?
You know like what is like aday off for you looking like,
and like what is that comfortzone?
What do you typically leantowards in those days where
maybe you need a mental break oryou just need a break from the
work in general?

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, so usually when I just need a break, people I
know like a lot of people saylike, oh, I play video games and
stuff and for me, like I usedto play video games, I don't do
that anymore, but Philip istrying to, you know, get me to
get back into it.
But it's funny because to take abreak from art, which is my job

(27:31):
, I do more art.
But I do art in my sketchbook,but it's usually for fun, like I
don't.
Usually when I have like aspread in my sketchbook, I kind
of save it for like drawing areel and in my opinion, like
content creating and makingreels, like I do see that as a
job because it is promotingmyself, you know.
So I think that's part of thekind of like the marketing.

(27:53):
But then sometimes I have likepages in my sketchbook or like I
have a canvas in my Procreatethat like I just draw whatever I
want and you know I don't haveto record it, I don't have to,
you know, like do anything withthat, like I don't have to post
it, it's just for me and that istherapeutic, being able to draw

(28:13):
for myself.
And I know that sounds like, oh, I draw so much to the point
where, like, I don't draw formyself anymore.
But it's true, and it's justkind of part of growing up and
just having responsibilities youhave to make time for yourself,
for sure, and I do tend to likewatch shows as well, especially

(28:34):
anime that I haven't caught upwith or I haven't started.
But I really need to catch upand, phil, I'm with you on that.
I have a bunch of shows andthings I have to watch and I
haven't done so.
I've just been pushing it.
So I guess that would also helpme contribute to the work that
I do now, because it isinspiration, but it's also a

(28:55):
good way to relax.
And I also just like going out,like going out to like to the
mall or like just anywhere thathas like I guess you would say,
like pop culture stores that arearound.
Like, of course, at the mallthere's like plenty of like
anime stores I can just walkinto.
And usually I like to windowshop in general, like that's

(29:16):
kind of like my therapy, even ifI'm not buying anything.
I just like to window shopbecause it does clear my head a
little bit.
But yeah, I kind of just liketake advantage of just my free
time with either doing art, butjust for myself, or like
indulging in different medias.
That will help me kind of likerecharge, recharge the mind,

(29:38):
recharge the body, yeah.
And then, of course, like goingout, hanging out with friends,
um, just spending time like formyself too.
I, I I really enjoy like justgoing out by myself sometimes,
because I know that when you'resocial a lot, especially at cons
, like it does get draining.
So sometimes I do like to takedays for myself.

(30:00):
Those are always alsotherapeutic, but kind of just
like focusing on yourself andlike taking a lot of rest.
I try to value as much rest aspossible.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
So, yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot, but it's busy
lifestyle as well.
Yeah, yeah, no, we're justthinking about how tired Phil
right that bold is going to beand that's just two days, so we
can.
We're tired now just thinkingabout it, so we can only imagine
going into the convention grind.
But yeah, that's what we got todeal with and it's nothing in

(30:31):
comparison.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, having those times.
Sometimes you just really needlike that time just to yourself,
for it to be quiet.
That's why I'm a night owl andI do play a lot of video games.
So like in the middle of thenight is when I will find my
pieces, when I'll just like sitdown, play a game and also put
like a podcast on, and a gameand also put like a podcast on,

(30:53):
and that'll be like my time aswell.
The window shopping thing I Idefinitely agree with that.
Let me ask you this see, if youare the type of weird that eric
is when you're in an airport,do you enjoy walking around the
airport and looking at all thedifferent stores?
Yeah, that's eric.
I've never seen a man soexcited to walk around an
airport than when I traveledwith eric, I was like what,
what's?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
happening right now?
It's just a mall with planes.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
It's crazy, dude.
I don't get it.
It's just a different.
It's just a t-shirt with adifferent city on it.
I don't know why, and I'm likeooh.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
No, I mean like, but you got to know that, like it's
okay to just look.
You're not telling yourself tobuy, but it's okay to look, you
know so brookstone?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I haven't seen one of those since 2010.
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
No, I know oh my, every time I see a sabaro in
there I'm like it's got to tastedifferent in the airport no, it
was crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
We went to la and like we had like a couple hours
before our flight and eric justgoes, I'm gonna walk around.
I was like what?
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
I didn't see him for like an hour and a half.
I could not understand it.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
He was just gone, you can do so much within an hour
and a half, like the last time Ihad to fly somewhere.
It was for New York, it wasback in November and, like I
mean, I had to get souvenirsanyway, so I made sure to look

(32:16):
around those like small storesthat are, like, connected to the
other restaurants in theairport.
But I enjoy it, especially if Igo to a new state, like it's
kind of fun, kind of learningtheir lore.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yes, through the airport.
He doesn't get it.
I was, I had a.
I had to do a flight for workand I landed in chicago and I
only had like an hour and yeah,could I have probably done the
more mature thing and made sureI wouldn't like possibly miss my
flight?
Sure, but no, I like I likebrisk sped, run through
everything I could in chicagoand I was like I got a little
taste of it I'm the type offlyer where if I can't see my

(32:44):
gate, the flight, the plane'sgonna leave, so like even if I
like go to the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I'm like stressed, I'm like usually plane's
probably gone usually I wouldfirst find my gate, so I know
where it is, and then I explore,because then if I'm running out
of time, I just I know where itis so I can just zoom to it.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
It's crazy man I get.
I'd never seen, I'd nevertraveled with anybody, I think
because also I don't know howmuch you flew when you were
younger, eric, but I flew a ton.
So like the airport is just astressful place for me.
Now I don't really like to likelook around, but it was.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
That was like the opposite of my experience.
Again, it's like a fun thing Iget to go do I don't get
stressed on planes the way otherpeople do.
It just doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Also, apparently, jacksonville Anime Day returned
in January, so I don't know ifit had been gone for a little
bit, but it is, oh yeah.
So they had a post in 2022 andsaid like we weren't going to do
one, and then it looks likethey brought it back in January.
So there you go.
I actually think I went to oneof these, like just randomly, at

(33:51):
that hotel.
It's off Bay Meadows, right?
Is that where that one is?
Yeah, so I like randomlyremember going to this.
You mentioned your queue.
What's what's on that queueright now?
What are you watching right now?
Or at least, what do you wantto watch the most?
We'll ask that to either or.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
OK, so at the moment it it's been weeks, but we've
been catching up with to be herox and we need to catch up on
those episodes.
For sure I know philip and myother roommate they're catching
up on free run.
There's just something aboutfree run that like I understand
the hype but it's too slow forme.

(34:28):
Um so, but no hate on that, forsure I I understand the hype.
And then let's see what'sanother show keeping up with and
of course, owl house.
I mentioned that earlier.
I think I'm on like episodeseven, six seven of the second

(34:48):
season it's still early of thesecond season.
Yeah, so, um, first season wasso good.
I am excited for the rest ofthe season, for sure trying to
think of what else.
I know there's so many othershows I have to watch.
Um, oh, and then um, philip Imostly philip and my roommate,
but I'm also kind of alsocatching up with.

(35:09):
Do you guys play guilty gear?
no familiar with guilty gear butI don't play it no okay, yeah,
because they have an anime andwe're catching up with that
right now.
Like he's obsessed with it, soof course, I have to indulge
with him too.
Um, for a little bit, for alittle bit, we watched death

(35:29):
note and I think we just stoppedat like episode six.
So I we need to continuewatching because it is starting
to get good.
And, of course, how can I everforget one piece?
I'm all caught up with theepisodes, um, and I'm very
excited for the live action so,oh yeah, what is the what's
everybody's so?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
remember eric with rue.
We asked like what's the worstcase scenario with chopper?
So what do we?
How are we feeling?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
yeah, so what do you think of chopper?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
okay, I'm not gonna lie, I thought something was off
about him when I first saw him.
However, the more he was onscreen because because, of
course, like I think that wholeclip was like what three minutes
long or something.
So he's talking, and so I waslike, okay, let me see if I can
get used to him by the end ofthis clip.

(36:18):
And I did.
He does look cute.
I think it's the eyes.
I think the eyes are like Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
They're kind of generic, right yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
I forgot who told me this, but they were like it's
giving paddington and I'm likeokay, maybe, so maybe that's why
there's nothing wrong withpadding.
There's nothing wrong withpadding, but just not for
chopper.
Yes, but I can't like unsee itand so, like I'm not gonna lie,
it did put me off a bit, but nowI'm starting to get used to him
.
I love his voice and I knowlike it's not supposed to

(36:55):
represent like the originalChopper, like to the T, but his
voice is so cute.
I love his mannerisms and Ithink like it's just it's
probably the eyes, but at thesame time like overall he's
really cute and I do like theappeal of him.
But my, my initial opinion wasdefinitely different than other

(37:16):
people's opinion I definitelysee the paddington eyes now that
I'm looking at it.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
So yeah yeah yeah, yeah, and I mean chopper can get
really expressive, so like I'mjust wondering what that will
look like yeah, I don't thinkthey're gonna.
I don't think they're gonnachange that very much so, but
again, that's one of those liveadaptation things.
The lame, what is on your queuethat you like are dying to get
to like you just keep pushing itoff.

(37:42):
You haven't gotten to it yet.
You know you need to.
Is there anything on that queuethat like fits that description
?

Speaker 3 (37:49):
oh, I'm trying to think, because I would say yes,
to be hero x, for sure, butthat's more of like me and the
roommates, because we usuallylike to just watch it on the
couch, like you know, in frontof the tv, as like a like a
little bit of a family situation, but when it comes to like

(38:10):
actually watching a show, ohit's hard.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Or a movie.
Is there a movie you haven'tseen this year, that you haven't
gotten to?

Speaker 3 (38:20):
I know that.
So what's funny is, this pastweekend we watched Sinners which
, by the way, I don't know ifyou guys have seen that yet, but
it was a really good movie.
Yes, we were originallysupposed to watch Phoenician
Scheme by Wes Anderson, but welearned that it hasn't come out
in the US, so the launch datewas very misleading online.

(38:44):
So Phoenician Scheme is a moviethat I definitely want to watch
for sure is a movie that Idefinitely want to watch for
sure, and then, surprisinglyenough, like I I always say this
to Philip, but like we haven'twatched wicked yet and I really
want to.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Oh man, what a good time.
Shut up, shut the hell up,nobody's talking to you.
Nobody's talking to you.
Yeah, great, great time.
Yeah, it's one I woulddefinitely put it on like,
especially at this point,because it's June came out late
last year.
If you're going to watch it, Iwould watch it when you just
need a pick-me-up.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I was going to say maybe watch it in November, you
don't have to wait for the.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Also by November.
So that way you can see if youwant to really watch the second
one at that point and you don'thave to wait.
So maybe you could do like aback to back.
I actually wouldn't besurprised.
I would not be surprised ifthey did a double showing for
that.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, yeah no.
I would recommend it intheaters, if you can I mean I
would love that Honestly, likeif I could have that opportunity
to watch it in theaters when Imiss that opportunity.
I would love that Honestly.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I'll go with you.
I'll go with you, phil won't.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
But you, me, phillip, roommates, let's go.
It's like we all have like justgrab everyone and like it's a
family gathering that we go, allgo to the movies together.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, and then we could go send like a group
picture to Phil and show himwhat he's missing, because
Phil's not the biggest fan ofWicked, I mean I'll go see the
second one.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
We'll just be there all night, because I'm sure it's
a three and a half hour movieand you know it's not that long,
you just keep making it longer.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
The second one how?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
long is the second one going to be?
You know, how much they'regoing to stretch that out.
However long it needs to be,Phil.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Oh, and then, of course, I watched this trailer
over and over and over againbecause I am so incredibly
excited.
But the k-pop demon huntersmovie, yes, I just told Eric
about that the other day.
It looks so good it's by, it'smade by the spider-verse crew.
Are you kidding me?
of course, yeah other than that,though.

(40:44):
Like I just I don't know, likeusually, like I know, I just
said like like I would spendtime like watching shows and
stuff, but it's usually likewhenever I watch shows, if I
want to turn my brain off, Ikind of put on a show that I
don't have to think too hard.
Bob's Burgers has been like afixation so far for me, bob's

(41:04):
Burgers.
I did start watching AbbottElementary recently too, so it's
a really good show.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
so far that one's on our list too, right, phil?
Yeah, I need to get into AbbottElementary.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
You have to Yesterday .
I mean like it hits in thefeelings.
I will say Like it already hitsin the feelings the first
episode, and so I saw how longit is and I was like, is it
going to be like this everysingle episode?
Because I don't know if I canhandle it, but also it's really
good.
So that's definitely an ongoingwatch.

(41:38):
And then, of course, I'm tryingto have Philip watch Kill la
Kill with me.
He started Kill la Kill andit's not that he's not
interested, but because we haveso many other interests, like as
a couple, that we never get toit.
Like we had an exchange whereit's like if you watch kill a

(41:59):
kill, which is my favorite anime, he'll have me watch cowboy
bebop, which is his favoriteanime.
So but we never finished eitherof those.
So it's just like we'll finishit one day.
I'll finish Cowboy Bebop one day.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
So we all run into the same things, like there's so
many things I haven't evenstarted and stuff I'm behind on,
and then when you throw in likewanting to read manga and play
video games and all this stuff,we just do not have time.
There just isn't enough time toget to all of them.
So yeah, but there's definitelyno shortage of things to to
catch up on and I think that's agood thing to do.

(42:37):
Like Eric and I have done showswaps in the past, I remember I
gave him what did I give you?
Did I give you parks and rec orthe office?
Was it the?

Speaker 1 (42:46):
office.
I'm pretty sure it was Parksand Rec.
No, I think it was Parks and.
Rec because I had been watchingthe office at that point.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
And then he gave me five anime and we went three out
of five, Like that's not bad,Three for five.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, it wasn't a bad hit, especially once I realized
that you just like have thisweird fucking anime taste.
Well, what were the?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
five.
What were the five?
Assassination Classroom?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
You didn't enjoy Dr Stone.
I didn't like Dr Stone, whichwas a bummer, I didn't like the
one, the.
Promised Neverland.
You didn't like PromisedNeverland.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Which you hated in season two.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
It's because they yeah, I don't want to talk about
it.
I don't want to talk about it.
What were the other two?
It wasn't Full Metal, right,Because you didn't make that big
of a commitment two I don'tknow.
I'll have to remember those arethe big.
Those are the biggest threethat I remembered, though, out
of that list, and I think theother two were misses too, so
maybe it was like two out ofthree, who knows?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I don't remember.
Maybe, maybe that's a good wayto do it.
Like you, you trade off, likeyou trade a show with somebody,
and then they, uh, they'll watchsomething, uh, in return.
So, but yeah, lillane, um,before we get into our game,
eric, is there anything else youwant to go over with Lillane
before you inevitably riggedthis game against me?
Or two, perhaps, maybe.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, well, we've got one fun game, and I think it's
even.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
What do you mean?
Not both fun?

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Well, we're going to do one.
We're going to do one.
I want to make sure we fit itin the time frame allotted
because this one, this one, willeither go quickly or it'll go
slow.
Uh so, but yeah, the question,I have the lane before we get
into it.
Um, you know you talked aboutsome of the highs and the lows
of you know being in this spaceas a creator, as an artist, and

(44:26):
you know going to a con.
You know sometimes it comesdown to the financials of
whether it was a success or not.
You could go to a con, not makea lot of money, but make a lot
of networking, and that con canstill be a win.
There's a lot of highs and lows, wins and losses, successes and
failures.
I want to know what is and thiscan either be recent or since
you started your journey journeywhat has been one like really

(44:54):
really low point that you haveovercome, or maybe it was just
difficult to overcome thatyou're still working on, and
what is like the biggest success?
You feel like you've hadSomething you really tip your
hat on.
When you look back to it,you're like that was a huge
moment for me or that was areally big win that I always
look to in moments that I needinspiration.
So what was that biggest highand that biggest low for you?

Speaker 3 (45:13):
if you don't mind sharing, yeah, and I'm assuming
this is just for anything.
It doesn't have to just belimited to like at conventions.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
It's just like anything in my life yeah,
anything in your life you know,and especially anything you know
.
You know, when we're talkingabout your creative journey and
how you've kind of gotten tothis point what those two
moments are the high and the low.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yeah.
So I guess like we'll kind ofbe a little personal here, but I
think that's important to sharebecause it helps with, like
reflecting on that time of mylife.
But, um, and I'll useconventions as an example,
because this was when I wasfull-time being an artist,
working at conventions to earnincome.
So I will admit that this pastyear, in 2024, there were a

(45:59):
bunch of cons that did not earnme as much as they did the same
conventions.
Compared to 2023, like it was avery big financial difference.
And so it was holiday mockery2024 when I learned because,
unfortunately, when it comes towhen it came to Hallmat of 2024,

(46:21):
I did not earn as much as I didin 2023.
And I don't know if that'sbecause of the venue change or
if people couldn't find my table, if you know, if it was just
like something differentaltogether.
But I will admit here now I kindof came home crying because I

(46:43):
just I couldn't believe it, likeI ended the year with, even
though I did, you know, get myexpenses back and I earned
profit, but it wasn't as much aslast or that the year prior.
So I just kind of I startedcrying and I just I got so
vulnerable and I didn't want toshare that because I kind of

(47:06):
like faked myself into justsaying like, oh, I did well.
But then altogether I looked atlike my numbers for the whole
year and it just it didn'treflect the same way than it did
in 2023.
And I just I felt reallydefeated and I don't know it
just like it hurt, because Iknow that the convention scene

(47:27):
in general has been slowlydeclining because of just
everything going on right nowand you know that's definitely
out of everyone's control.
But at the same time, like thehigh of earning a certain amount
in the same convention the yearbefore, and like knowing that

(47:47):
number now and then not earning,not meeting that number, it
hurts and it's kind of just likea personal goal I wanted to
meet and I couldn't meet that,no matter how many things I sold
within a given amount of time.
So, yeah, I kind of just droveback crying and it was a low and

(48:07):
I think like I've had a goodamount of those days where I did
kind of just reflect on likehow, how am I doing as like a
business owner, as an artist,and I think, like just towards
the end of 2024, altogether, itwas just bad.
It was a bad time, but I thinkwhat did redeem myself and what
helped, like boost thathappiness again was when we

(48:32):
released that comic in Megacon,because it was the first time
that I have a project to sell inperson, like, yeah, I have,
like, my prints and stickers,but this is the first time I
have a comic book presented.
And a lot of people bought thatcomic that weekend and it did
help me and Philip a lot.
And usually original work atconventions don't sell as much,

(48:58):
which is it depends on whoeveryou are as an artist, but when
it comes to like our comic book,that's our original work, that
is 100 percent original and yetpeople are still interested.
Original and yet people arestill interested.
And that helped a lot because,um, in the future it would be
incredible if I could 100 focuson original work for my business
and not have to rely on fandomsfor that.

(49:20):
But it helped a lot with ouryou know, our I don't know the
right word for it our happinessis what I'm trying to convey,
but like it, it helped our mooda lot, yes, yeah.
No, it helped a lot for surewith our confidence and, like
the, the drive to continuecreating comics and stuff.

(49:41):
So I that's definitely a highand sadly because of, like I
mentioned before, the conventionscene, megacon altogether this
year did not hit as high as lastyear.
That's just a trend now.
But I'd say like what reallybrought me down was just like

(50:01):
the decline of these, of theseconventions, but it's no one's
fault, but society's, like thegovernment's fault, I don't know
.
I mean, like inflation is athing of course, and like it
hurts when you're just likewanting to buy everything but
you can't buy everything, youknow, and it has been hard

(50:21):
hitting for the past few months,um, but we're we're slowly
trying to kind of buildourselves back up again and I
think like the support of ourcomic is helping with that.
Um, we are in the middle of likeworking on issue two, like we,
I think we've wrapped up withlike the writing of it.
So now we're slowly starting todraw issue two and we're really

(50:43):
looking forward to that,because I know that there are
people who are excited and Ithink that's definitely one of
the highs so far in our careeris having an original work kind
of draw a lot of people'sattention Because, like I said,
when it comes to fandoms,usually people like that more
than original.
So it's a nice confidence, Iwould say.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, and you know we won't get into details about
Megacon on the episode.
We could talk about that likemaybe for Patreon or, you know,
off air.
But yeah, you know what,especially when you're seeing so
many shows First off there'salmost one every weekend now.
So I think there's less of anincentive for someone to travel
to a Jacksonville, an Orlando, aMiami, a Tampa, if they know

(51:29):
that there's one a little bitcloser and that kind of like
fulfills their desire to go to ashow, like at that time, right.
So there's that.
You know we're getting peoplethat have never really run a
show before, so that is alwaysgoing to be tough as well.
Yeah, I was pretty surprisedbecause usually when we ask this
question, especially for peoplethat are florida-based, eric,
as far as what their first showwas, it's almost always megacon.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Everyone's always like yeah, I remember when
megacon was fun and you couldwalk through the aisles, that
was a good time yeah, and againwe uh, that was, that was the
con that we kind of gotintroduced to the convention
scene and we were like, oh,there's more than just this big
one in.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Orlando.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Thank God, yeah, because I just Remember.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
we used to be able to do.
We would do scavenger hunts atMegaCon.
That's how like much spacethere was.
We would be like, let's make agame out of this Now.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
You could never, you could not possibly do that like
no, but but lillane, I thinkthat says a lot about that being
your big moment because, likeagain, megacon is so nutty when
it comes to the crowd and thefact that enough people saw your
original work, your art,something you poured your heart
into, and you had such apositive reception that even you

(52:41):
weren't expecting.
Because, again, a lot of peopleare window shopping very
quickly looking.
They're also looking forestablished IPs or their
favorite characters, and therethey are finding stitches.
I think that's such an amazingcorrelation and I'm very, very
excited for what's to come next.
And we'll have an opportunity.
This episode will drop at theend of the month of June, so

(53:01):
we'll have an opportunity foryou to plug.
Drop at the end of the month ofJune, so we'll have an
opportunity for you to pluganything that's coming up and
all of that.
But I do have a game for us toplay and that is going to be a
memory based game.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
So this is going to be very interesting and also
thank you for sharing theHallmat story and being
vulnerable.
We appreciate that storybecause there are so many ebbs
and flows you know also withwhat we do too, and it's very
easy to kind of like focus onthose, but then you know
refocusing and then you knowgetting towards those wins is
really important story as well.
So thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah, no, of course, and I also want this to be an
opportunity to tell people ifyou're also a working artist
like me, it's okay to cry andit's okay to be defeated by not
reaching your goals.
That's part of growth, andit'll only go up from there.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Also, this Phoenician scheme cast is crazy, it is.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Are you looking at it now?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, you said it didn't release yet I'm showing.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Showtime for this weekend.
I think it's out now.
I think it's out now.
Oh, but when you went to go,see it, it wasn't out yet.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Yeah, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, so it's apparently
according.
I forgot where I looked it up,but it was only released in the
UK.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
It's not even here yet until next weekend, until I
guess, like now, yeah, it'll beout on thursday.
So, eric, I know you're not awes anderson guy, so I don't
know if this will be on here.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I mean, I've only dived into one of his films, so
I'm not even gonna say I'm not awes anderson guy, it's just
I've never been, was it?

Speaker 2 (54:36):
was it intrigued to see a?

Speaker 1 (54:38):
movie that you didn't like budapest, and I thought it
was just okay, but it wasanother one of those star
studied cast movies where Iwalked out of it like okay, that
was, that was cool.
I guess what was that?
A little little yeah, a littlestartled, but uh, all right,
guys, we're gonna do a memorygame, and it is gonna be, of
course, anime coded here.

(54:58):
Uh.
The good thing about this,though, is that it is not gonna
be anime specific, so even ifyou haven't seen the anime,
that's not really what this isabout.
So let's go over the rules.
You guys are going to seeseveral different observation
challenges.
I believe there's seven intotal.
They will be anime themed, sothe images will be based off an

(55:18):
anime, but what you're lookingfor you don't have to know about
the anime.
We're looking for something inthe image specifically.
You're gonna have 10 seconds tolook at the image, and then a
question will appear.
You want to try to answercorrectly before the answer is
revealed, and then, uh, yeah,the goal is to see how good your
memory is to get this game fromyou know what?

(55:40):
listen, we're not going to talkabout that, so we're going to
jump into our first one.
All right, let's see, you'reboth going to get 10 seconds to
look at this image okay, howconvenient that.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
it's my favorite anime too.
Yes, I do believe.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
I know for sure, I know for sure you have seen, I
believe, each one of these.
I don't know how much of anedge it would give you, maybe,
but the question now is how manypeople had sunglasses on their
head?
Oh my God, oh my God.

(56:24):
So, elaine, you'll get firstcrack and then phil, you tell me
yours.
Okay, it doesn't matter whatorder, but yeah, I'm going to
give an answer I'm gonna saythree.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
I'm gonna say three I'll go five, because if it's
four, I want you to have tofigure out who gets the point.
All right?

Speaker 1 (56:44):
well, thank god that the answer is three.
Uh, it's brooke robin and thenfrankie.
Yeah, right down, right downthere at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
So yay, I just had to remember this is the hardest.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
He's got the black like small glasses there.
So, yeah, but I and this wasalso my way, Phil of us putting
One Piece into it without havingto make you listen to it
although we did talk about Jockoearlier.
Yeah, one Piece is gonna bethat we have to add that to the
Take the Shot list.
Take the Shot.
Yeah, anytime Epic, uh Epic.
The Musical comes up.

(57:18):
One Piece Puss in Boots.
The last week, Puss in.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Boots last week Puss in Boots, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Wicked came up today, yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
We're getting a list.
Alright, you guys got the gist.
Now Elaine's up by one.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Here's your next image.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Okay, Alright, you want to explain what the image
is.
Eric to the podcast crowd.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Audio only listeners you might want to the podcast
crowd.
Oh yeah, audio.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Holy losers you might want to switch over to YouTube
for this one.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
I forget every time I forgot about that too, that's
okay, phil, you can cut out 10seconds of audio time.
What color was the snake's eyes?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Oh my goodness, that's not what I was focused on
.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
So, lelaine, what do you think the color of the
snake's eyes?
Oh, my goodness, that's notwhat I was focused on.
So, lelaine, what do you thinkthe color of?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
the snake's eyes were .
Can I do two potential guesses?
No, no, just one.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
No, I already am told that I rigged these against
Phil.
I can't give you two, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
You know what that's fair I'm just I'll say a light
yellow color, light yellow.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Okay, light yellow.
I mean, if there are any yellow, you'd get the point.
But light yellow is fine as ananswer.
Yeah, what about you?
Orange?
Sure, okay, neither of thoseare correct.
Brown.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
They were red.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Where's the snake?
He's like blending into thecrowd there.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
He's so annoying.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
You have to zoom in so much.
That's tough, yeah, no that's atough one.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
I had to make some like really hard ones,
unfortunately.
No, but that's valid too Allright, so Elaine's still up by
one.
Here's your next image.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Audio only listeners.
We got the my Hero Academiaimage.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
It's going to be like how many bullets are on
Bakugou's outfit, or some shitlike that.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I'm trying to see how many characters, and the
observation question is oh, no,I think.
How many people did not showtheir face in this image?

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Uh, I saw one of them .

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Hold on.
Yeah, think about it.
I'll say two Elaine's sayingtwo Phil.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I think it was three.
Okay, one of you is correct.
The answer is.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Lelaine saying two.
Phil, I think it was three.
Okay, one of you is correct.
The answer is two peopleShigaraki is looking away and
Iida has his helmet on.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
I thought I could have sworn.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
I thought maybe Deku had his masks on her his mask oh
, okay, not showing their face,gotcha okay, I think you meant
okay, gotcha, yeah, yep, alright, alright, lelaine's up to
nothing alright, let's see what.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Oh, okay, not showing their face, gotcha, okay, okay,
gotcha, yep, yep, all right,all right, lelaine's up to
nothing, all right, let's seewhat we got next.
Here's our next image, from Domto Don.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Ah, the classic.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
So good, so good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
And the observation question how many shirt buttons?

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
are there?

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Oh, my God, you're really counting on that cow huh,
there's a lot of math questionshere.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Fucking no.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Four.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Okay, Lelaine says four.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Six Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
One of you is correct , it is four Ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
It is the fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
They're on his shirt.
One, two, three, four, oh mygod, it's like blended in.
Oh my, this game sucks.
Phil, I think you say they'reblended in, because I think you
actually, this is yourcolorblind.
Yeah, isn't it green and yellowthat?

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
you struggle with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Fuck, sorry, that was my bad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
There's a lot of green and yellow here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I'm so sorry, alright .

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Lelaine's starting to run away yellow here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I'm so sorry there is .

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
All right, lelaine's starting to run away with it.
I think that's 3-0.
Who's keeping count?
All right, here's our next one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Spy family.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Gotta love spy family , and it's the manga cover too.
Yeah, I really like this image,me too, and that's specifically
because of the observationquestion how many people are
touching their cup on the table?
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Okay, lelaine said one person's touching their cup,
can I?

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
also guess one, or am I not allowed to?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
You can?
Yeah, you can, because I thinkit's also one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Okay, can I get on the board?
Am I not allowed to you can?

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yeah, you can, because I think it's also one.
Okay, can I?

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
get on the board.
Unfortunately Is it two.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
It is two.
Lloyd and Anya is holding hercup.
She's holding her cup, hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
She's holding her cup .
I thought maybe she had herhands above the cup or something
I was counting the bodies.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Maybe she had her hands above the cup or something
.
I was like that's bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
I was counting the bodies.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
I thought this was a true question because I thought
one of them was holding the cupabove the table.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Yeah, so that's okay.
That's okay, lelaine, you havea lot of leeway here, so you're
still very much in the lead.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
I'm so happy.
Yay, I usually don't win atthese things Well luckily for
you, Phil never wins at thesethings.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Here's our next observation challenge A classic
Sailor Moon.
I'm not going to remember thisat all.
Whatever, it is no, phil, justpay close attention, Okay, and
specifically pay attention tohow many items are being held.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Ooh, Okay, and specifically pay attention to
how many items are being held.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Ooh, hmm, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Two, three.
Wayne says two, one of you iscorrect, oh my God.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
And it is not Phil, it's two.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
I knew it was bare minimum two and I thought maybe
I missed one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
I kept like looking at Sailor Venus, so I was like
yeah, it has to be about

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
her.
Alright, I believe this isprobably our last one, if I'm
correct.
Alright, so we're going to getto our last one.
Elaine, this is for all themarblesbles, although you
literally have all the marblesfor six.
This is for six points oh mygod there are so many dragon

(01:03:53):
ball z characters oh but this isthis is my favorite Dragon Ball
Z style.
Yes, yes, this is a classicClassic Namek Mm-hmm Period.
Phil, what Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
ready.
I'm giving you a little bit ofextra time to look at it.
Sure, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
How many Namekians are there?
I don't know.
Close.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
How many?

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
people have green skin.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Very close, Okay.
Lelaine said seven.
Oh my god uh very close.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Seven, okay, the lane's in seven, phil.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Seven, six, okay, phil how about this for you?
I'm gonna let you see the imagefor three seconds.
Okay, ready the lane's gonnaalso see it yeah, but she can't
give another answer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
She's already given her answer three two, one okay
how many people have green skin,phil, okay, there's a little
bit of a lag.
Okay, ready Four.
Okay, you're going to have tochange, try one more time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Try one more time, Phil.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Pay attention Six, look closely.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Phil it's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Seven.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
It's literally five people Five.
It's literally five people Five, five games, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Well that one had green hair, so it confused me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Yeah, the green hair was supposed to confuse Also.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Tia's got green pants .

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Next yes, yes, it's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
You know what I really felt good about how that
went.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Thanks for playing Great job, unless you had bad
memory skills.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Phil, I joked about this earlier, but apparently I
have good guessing skills,apparently.
Yeah, that was great, all right.
Well, that was a success.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
That was a first-time play for the podcast and that
game is definitely coming back.
So, Phil, Great yes.
Look forward to that.
Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Lillian.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Fantastic, fantastic.
Well, lillian on um, on yourvictory here today.
We, uh we thank you so much forjoining us.
We're so very excited to seeyou at bold here in a couple
weeks.
Of course, this episode doescome out after bold, so please
let everybody know one more timewhere they can find all of your
work and then any appearancesyou have coming up throughout

(01:06:02):
the rest of the summer andbeyond yeah, so actually I never
mentioned my socials in thebeginning anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
So my socials is what you see on the screen, but I
know for the podcast people,it's Lelaine Art Geek on all
socials.
So Instagram, tiktok, youtube Iwas about to say Twitter, but I
don't use Twitter anymore butyou can still find me on there,
and I have Bold Matsuri, ofcourse, but then I also have

(01:06:29):
Otaku Fest, which is coming upthis weekend.
So I have Otaku Fest and thenBold Matsuri, and then my next
confirmed convention is AnimeOrlando in August and then, once
I pay my invoice, I will alsobe there at Ocala Comic Con.
So, but other than that, that'spretty much it for like

(01:06:51):
confirmed events, but hopefullyI will apply to more when they
come up, if conventions want toaccept me.
And yeah, if anything likecomes up like any accepted cons
I'm a part of, you candefinitely catch me on Instagram
, which is where I'm posting themost.
I'd say like Instagram andTikTok, for sure, um, same

(01:07:13):
username, lelaine Art Geek.
And yeah, and I think, like whenit comes to anything special
coming up, nothing in particular, like nothing particularly
special, but I do havecommissions open for sure.
So just either reach out to methrough, like commenting on any
of my posts or DMing or justsending an email, which is in my

(01:07:36):
profile bio on Instagram.
But I have that going on.
And then, of course, I'm justpreparing for these upcoming
conventions coming up.
And when it comes to new art,nothing in particular.
Yet I want to do Sonic becauseI know Ivan wants me to do Sonic
, but I also love Sonic as awhole, so I want to do Sonic art

(01:07:56):
for sure, and plus it'llactually add, finally, some game
fan art in my portfolio.
It'd be good to have that, butother than that, that's pretty
much it, and any updates, uh,from me will be through
instagram and tiktok, like Imentioned yeah, sonic will fit
right in your collection, sothat'll be great also you said

(01:08:19):
you still do have physicalcopies of stitches left as of
right now I only haveyeah, go ahead no, yeah, you're
good, I only have one more copy,but my friend wants to get it.
But we are planning onreplenishing those copies, but I
think that will be the lasttime we're gonna like replenish.

(01:08:40):
Before we move on to issue two,however, we are planning a
kickstarter so that it'll helpwith those costs, but we haven't
.
We've only talked about it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Nothing has been like set in stone yet and you can
still get it on the kindle ifyou want.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
If you want a digital copy, as yes, uh, you can
always access it on amazonthrough kindle.
Um, it's only $10.
And it's like honestly superaffordable because I sell my
copies for $15.
So $5 off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Yeah, there you go, and everything you need for
Lelaine will be in the shownotes of this episode, so make
sure you keep up with her.
Also, lelaine, if you everanimate this and need a voice
actor, you know oh my goodness,and I saw that you have like a
project, potential project.
Yeah, that's why I was like alittle late.
They wanted me to submitanother reading, so I was doing

(01:09:31):
that.
That's why I was like a tad bitlate, so we'll see how it goes.
It's honestly like just thefirst like quote unquote
callback is cool, so whether ornot I get it, at least that's a
step in the right direction, soabsolutely Well.
Congrats to that as well, Ofcourse, I appreciate it so yeah,
so make sure you follow Elaineeverywhere that we mentioned,
that she mentioned here as wellas in the show notes of this

(01:09:57):
episode, and if you want to keepup with the way for a podcast,
you can also do that in the shownotes.
Find our link tree link.
You'll find all of our socialmedia pages, of course, the most
important ones being Instagram,tiktok, our thriving Discord
community and Twitch, where weare streaming a ton, which has
been a whole lot of fun.
You can catch us at quite a fewdifferent conventions here
coming up throughout the rest ofthe year.
If you want to support the show, you can also head on over to
Apple Podcasts, spotify.

(01:10:18):
Leave us a five-star review.
All of that is so incrediblybeneficial.
Also, tag us.
Let us know that you'relistening, let Elaine know that
she listened if you're comingfrom her community, and we
appreciate all of that.
Also, follow Eric and I'spersonal pages, which can also
be found in our link tree, as wenavigate.
Content creation, voice acting,podcasting all of that is so
beneficial.

(01:10:38):
But maybe, if you find yourselfwanting to get these episodes
even earlier and getting somespecial behind the scenes perks,
eric will let you know a littlebit more about that before we
wrap up for the evening.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Yeah, so of course, Patreon is a big platform for us
in 2025.
Thanks to patrons of the showwho are supporting us monthly on
that platform.
Thank you to Briar, Stefan T3,Kato, Vintage, Macaroni, Corey
from the World is my Burrito andNick Casbaro, the author of the
Vidalirium series.
Their monthly support is inexchange to those behind the

(01:11:08):
scenes, the early access andmore that comes with each tiered
subscription to Patreon, andit's a very big thank you to the
work that we do here.
However, all the other freestuff is very much appreciated
and it takes only a moment ofyour time.
So the likes, the comments, theshares, the engagements, the
listens, all the above we reallyappreciate and we appreciate

(01:11:29):
you for sticking around to theend of this episode.
With all that being said, myname is Mr Eric Almighty, that
is my co-host, Phil the Filipinoand our guest, the Lane Art
Geek.
Please remember that we releasenew episodes on the podcast
every Wednesday and all you haveto do is wait for it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
This is the Wait For it Podcast.