April 9, 2025 • 42 mins
The guys review Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn, a 2012 web series-turned-movie that follows military cadets who must team up with Master Chief when their academy is attacked by the Covenant.
• A tale of two halves, with the first portion focusing on cadet training that feels slow and uninspired
• The film dramatically improves once the Covenant attack begins around the midpoint
• Excellent atmospheric portrayal of the Covenant as genuinely terrifying threats
• Master Chief's portrayal strikes the perfect balance between badass soldier and empathetic hero
• Impressive use of a $10 million budget to create effective horror-action sequences
• Fflawed but still delivers what Halo fans want from a live-action adaptation
• Significantly better than the big-budget Paramount+ Halo series that followed
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Letterbox'd Synopsis: UNSC Cadet Thomas Lasky must conquer his inner fears and join forces with super-soldier John-117 to take down a massive faction of the Covenant.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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This is the Wait For it Podcast.
Hey, everyone, welcome back tothe Wait For it Podcast.
I'm your co-host, phil Barrera,aka Phil the Filipino.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And I'm your other co-host, Mr Eric Almighty, and
we are entering a very specialmonth, Patreon month, where
patrons of the show areselecting different forms of
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So for this edition of Late tothe Party, we are going to be
talking about Halo 4, ForwardUnto Dawn be talking about Halo
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4 Forward Unto Dawn.
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Yeah, it's all about the Weight Watchers here this
month.
So if you are interested inmaybe giving us some suggestions
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We'll let you know where youcan join this very, very fun
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We'll let you know all aboutthat at the end of the episode.
But yeah, eric, I'm trying toput myself back in the shoes of
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a Halo fan.
Right Back in 2012,.
Halo 4 really kind of markedthe beginning of where we jumped
off the Halo train, right.
So this came out.
I knew of it, but I had notwatched it until we did this
episode.
So excited to talk about thisand hopefully, briar, we don't
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let you down.
This is the secondrecommendation for us and the
last one didn't go so well.
So if you want to know how wefelt about Porco Rosso, check
that episode out, but let's jumpinto Halo 4, forward unto dawn.
Letterboxd synopsis.
Unsc cadet Thomas Lasky mustconquer his inner fears and join
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forces with Super SoldierJohn-117 to take down a massive
faction of the Covenant.
Eric, I want to do this episodea little bit differently than
we typically do when we talkabout movies and we talk about
likes and we talk about dislikesdo when we talk about movies
and we talk about likes and wetalk about dislikes.
We really have to break thisinto first half and second half,
maybe even like first threefourths in last quarter, when it
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comes to forward unto dawn.
So I want to preface theconversation by starting it off
like that.
But for you you said youwatched this when it originally
come out, correct?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I did watched this when it originally come out
correct.
I did so.
I actually watched this as itwas released, which was in five
separate 15 minute segments orweb series on youtube, and that
is how I consumed it.
Phil, you talked a little bit.
The only thing I really knewwas that, uh, you know you had
finished it and you were likethank god that this was all put
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together in one place, becausemaybe your experience would have
been different.
For me, I mean, 2012 was over adecade ago, so totally different
vibes, sense of time andconsuming content.
It worked for me.
It worked for me and, honestly,it was a fond memory that I was
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worried would become tarnishedas I rewatched it in preparation
for this episode.
Luckily, it didn't quite hitthat fear, but you know we're
going to talk about did this agevery well?
What did we think about it?
As far as a Halo project andthen also as a quote, a quote
unquote movie as people nowwatch it, we probably have some
positives and negatives to goover, but I definitely agree.
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I'm perfectly fine with maybebreaking it down into either
each part or, maybe you know,two parts at a time.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, so you know we're introduced to this
character and this is clearlythe.
You know it's not the Spartanschool which I think I had
assumed going into it.
So you get these characters,brand new, original characters
who are very uninteresting.
Lots of pretty basic backstory,if you can call it that, for
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most of them.
Our main character, whose nameI literally just read and I
forgot already Lasky he is, youknow, pretty clearly gone
through.
You know he's the typicalwhat's the word I'm looking for?
Like legacy character right,like his brother was a really
decorated soldier.
Right, like his brother was areally decorated soldier.
(04:47):
His it sounds like his mom wasalso very decorated.
Who, I believe, is thecharacter in the show Right,
that is, is that his mom or didI miss that?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, I'm pretty sure OK.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Did they ever really say I didn't?
I don't know if I, like wasn'tpaying attention.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I think it was.
I think it's one of thosethings where you might overthink
it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, so all the women are also sir.
Maybe there's maybe this is,this is a non gendered society
in the Halo universe.
I didn't know that, but thatwas a little confusing as well.
Everybody was referred to assir, but yeah, so in the first
half I sent you that meme, eric,right, and they had us in the
first half.
Not going to lie, I was pretty,pretty worried because this
(05:28):
it's pretty boring and you know,master Chief doesn't show up
until later, which we'll talkabout, and these characters are
about as shallow as the kiddiepool and I was like, oh no,
where is this going to go?
The action was also also likeokay, like you know, it's the.
It ends up being like apaintball match, you know.
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So it kind of like removes anytype of drama there.
So I don't know what were yourearly thoughts about this, if
you remember what it was like 13years ago, and then what was it
like when you rewatched it?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, and then quick correction Maybe it wasn't the
mom, cause I started researchingI was like no, that's a
different name.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Okay, the way they interacted, it seemed like maybe
they were like that was her andthat's how he got in.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, so I think this back and forth proves one thing
, which is that the first twoand a half parts of this maybe
you could argue the you thefirst three parts are are pretty
uninteresting the movie.
So when it came out as a series, you know you're trying to give
it time.
You're also understanding whenyou go into this this is not
like a big budget project.
So I would look at this more oflike a passion project and when
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looking at it through thoselens, I was willing to give it a
little bit more time to cook.
As a film you're essentiallylooking at over the first hour
of an hour and a half film, or Ishould say almost an hour of an
hour and a half film, beingvery, by the numbers, low risk
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and it's not doing a lot ofworld building.
Like you are learning moreabout the characters who are
uninteresting.
A lot of it's hard to put on ayoung cast already and the fact
that they're essentially justgoing through training for half
of this film.
I don't think it serves themvery well when, again, a lot of
the world isn't being built.
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It's almost assuming that youknow of Halo and you're going to
get enough references to stayengaged.
Know of Halo and you're goingto get enough references to stay
engaged.
That works for big nerds thatare fans of the genre or the
medium, but not for it being acohesive plot structure.
So back then, I remembered thatwhen shit goes off in part three
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and the attack happens, we aregoing to talk about this freely.
I don't know if we mentionedthat.
Uh, this is also something nota lot of people probably have
seen.
If you're getting this messagenow, I would tell you this is
about the part you want to watch, because all the cool shit
happens when this attack happensto these cadets.
It gets pretty crazy.
(08:04):
Actually A lot, a lot, a lot, alot of moving parts.
But I do remember that back in2012, that it really picked up
and that the end was the bestpart and, rewatching it, I
definitely struggled to getthrough the first part, even
though I had seen it before,even though I had seen it before
, but the second half was justas sweet as watching it the
(08:26):
first time, especially whencomparing it to the modern day
Halo television show, which Iwent ahead and watched a little
bit of.
So we'll get to that in a bit.
But, phil, honestly, again, Ithink most people that watch
this have the same opinion.
Had us in the first half, notgoing to lie.
Second half is a banger.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, it's just really slowly paced there in the
first half.
Like you said, it's basicallyall training montage and not a
good training montage either,like this guy's not good at what
he does, even though we aretold that that you know his
family has this incrediblelegacy and and, like you said,
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it's really really tough becausethese are young actors and
actresses.
It is a huge ip.
Halo 4, I think, was the firstone correct me if I'm wrong,
eric the first non-bungie halo?
Yeah, this was the.
So halo 343 was the first 343Halo, or it may have been ODST,
but it was like right in thatera where we were transitioning
(09:29):
away from Bungie, so peopleprobably had a lot of issues.
Here's the problem with atleast how this begins, because
again, as we were alluding to it, this ends very strong.
I don't think we've still havenot seen anything better live
action Halo than Halo Landfall,which came out in 2000,.
Also 2012, I think, and thatwas the one that was like fan
(09:52):
made, if I remember correctly,and if you look that up you'll
remember just scrolling throughthe video we haven't gotten
anything that good as far aslive action since then.
So the fact that those came outI don't know if this came out
in the same year.
It was uploaded by Bungie May8th 2012.
So that probably didn't help.
(10:12):
But I just remember, aroundthis time, us not being excited
for Halo 4.
And this also could havecoincided with us transitioning
away from online gaming for alittle bit.
You know, we went about five,six years without doing anything
like that, and I don't evenreally remember being that
excited for Halo 4.
Halo 4, I believe, is the onewhere they all it looks like
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you're going to be like fightingagainst Master Chief, but then
when that, when that fightfinally does happen, they just
end up being it's like theMarvel Cinematic Universe thing.
So, again, putting a lot onthis cast is a little unfair.
But if you're going to attachthe Halo name for it, then
there's going to be very loftyexpectations.
So I mean, you tell me, or didyou have any connection up until
(11:01):
, I think, up until maybe Silvaand Lasky have that conversation
right before the attack.
There's no really emotionaldepth whatsoever to any of these
characters until that moment,right before shit hits the fan.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
No, 100 percent building to make the deaths in
the second half not feel likelike they tugged at your heart
string or like you felt the lossof the character.
But they worked in the sense ofthe shock value.
It wasn't like, oh, I didn'tgive a damn about this character
at all, it was.
(11:38):
You know this.
These characters weren't veryfleshed out, but I still felt
like when some of thesecharacters are dying in that
second half, when this attackfrom the covenant is happening,
you know, it was definitely likea oh, I didn't, I didn't think
they were going to do that.
Or maybe the amount of cadetsthat are killed in the second
half, because when that attackhappens, I mean, phil, I'm
(12:01):
curious what your thought was,but that's one of people's
favorite things is the depictionof the Covenant and then, of
course, master Chief.
I mean those are the twobiggest things.
So to say that these kids aremaybe the weakest part of the
whole thing makes a lot of sensewhen the strengths are the
things that tie you back to thegame makes a lot of sense when
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the strengths are the thingsthat tie you back to the game.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, so let's not really dwell on the boring any
longer because again, rightbefore so they have that
conversation.
You know he's about to get thatmedical discharge which, hey,
collect those benefits, homie.
But that's not, unfortunately,that's not the route he goes.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
That's right that Halo FMLA.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Exactly so, and then everything goes to shit, and
that's when, visually, thingsreally step up and it like would
have been.
It just seems like it wouldhave been much smarter to kind
of even that stuff out, like putsome cool stuff here.
They allude to a faction that Idon't think we've ever heard of
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in terms of Halo, like theResistance or something along
those lines.
And again, we're not.
We are Halo fans, but we aren'tdeep into the Halo lore like
that, so I didn't know anythinglike that.
I guess the parts where they'rediscovering, like that found
footage is kind of cool, butit's so infrequent and it's
surrounded by so much bleh thatyou know you don't really focus
on enough.
But shit goes down right.
The ODST is coming in, supercool, and the best decision that
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this, that Forward Unto Dawn,made and this ultimately led me
to probably giving it a littlebit of a higher score than it
deserves is atmospheric, wise.
The presentation of thecovenant is on point because,
remember, this is 2012 and Idon't know about you I've never
really been it's not.
I've never been like afraid ofany type of alien design, or we
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were just really desensitized byit by the time the fourth,
fifth halo game came around, soI think, the first time you see
a Covenant soldier what's theone with the?
Why am I blanking on the onewith the sword?
What's that type of Covenantcalled?
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Jackals.
No Jackals are the ones withthe shields.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Oh my gosh, briar's going to kill us.
Elites, elites the first timeyou see an Elite that's cool.
A Hunter the first time you seean elite that's cool.
A hunter the first time youencounter a hunter in Halo 1.
Terrifying.
But by the time this game comesaround, you're totally
desensitized by it.
You're not really scared ofthem.
But the cloak and theindivisible liberty and justice
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for all.
The invisible elite is so cool.
The Invisible Elite is so cooland I think they really captured
the essence of how terrifyingthat situation would be, because
, again in the game, you don'treally care about it.
You're just going through,you're killing them, you're
sticking them with a plasmagrenade, you're moving on here,
they're defenseless, they'retaking people out and all you
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see is this sword.
And remember, this is the firsttime.
They don't know what theCovenant is, for this entire
time they thought they weregoing to fight against other
people and then this terrifyingmonster shows up.
So let's just start there, eric.
The presentation of the elitewas spot on and I was like all
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right, finally, here we go Abouttime.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, we get.
We get all of the like kind ofthe greatest hits with the.
We mentioned the jackals, thehunters.
You know we get a lot of thatin here and I I just really like
the environment.
You know they use the darknessto their benefit.
Again, this is probably a lowbudget project.
I'd be curious to see how muchthey spent on this and if that
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information is easily accessible, but I I can't imagine that it
was very much.
And again, it just felt like,especially in that latter half,
it felt like it came from aplace of love for the character,
for the franchise, and I thinkthey did a great job.
You know, in that, in thatsecond half specifically, and
(16:10):
the fact that you know youtalked about the environment or
like you know kind of the horrorstructure of these, these
aliens attacking, I mean thatworks because they they really
do have consequences.
This wasn't like a master chiefrallies all the kids to beat
the aliens.
That's such a that's such anetwork TV show move to happen.
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That doesn't happen here.
There are consequences.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
There is death when he's like which one of you is
the best shot?
The kid's like you, probably.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
They were probably their most charming, the
funniest, the most sympatheticwhen Master Chief is around.
So, like I just I don't.
I understand for the projectthat it was.
You probably couldn't go allout with Master Chief.
You know you mentionedsprinkling some stuff throughout
.
I understand, maybe, why not?
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I just wish there was moreinteresting stuff leading up to
it.
That would have really bumpedup this score.
And think it's respect thereception overall, because when
briar asked us to do this, likethis is a fair late to the party
selection but it's probably oneof our lower on the pop culture
totem pole.
Like if you're not a halo fan,you probably never heard of this
(17:27):
where we've done uh, you knowtop gun and pretty woman.
You know those are movies thatlike are timeless people know of
.
Uh, this is probably lower onthe totem pole but I still think
it fits the bill because thisis an iconic moment.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
We did watch Lego Ninjago once, Eric.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
You didn't have to bring that up and you know that.
You know you didn't have to saythat I can Spoiler.
I can't confirm this moviebetter than Lego Ninjago, for
sure.
For sure Agreed, but no, I justthink that you know, for the
time that it came out, I thinkthey did a really good job,
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everything considered, and againthat second half, specifically
with Master Chief.
If you get Master Chief wrong,it doesn't work, it's just
boring, which is the worst thinga movie can be.
But it really is going to be anissue with fans if you don't
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get Master Chief right.
So the fact that they got himright, I think gives this movie
a lot of grace.
And I'd be very curious ifBriar has the same nostalgia I
had prior to about a week agowhen I watched it for the second
time, or if this is a rewatch,maybe.
Maybe him and others put thison and they enjoy it like that.
(18:47):
I don't know, now that I'vewatched it a second time about a
decade apart, I don't know ifthis has a lot of rewatchability
other than to start it from themiddle or see clips of the
second half.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, and, like I said, you know, if this, if I
had watched this episodically, Idon't know that I would have
continued.
However, because they werereleased in 15 minute segments,
I'd probably be like, oh yeah,okay, the Halo of Forge and
Tadon came out this week.
You know, I'll check it out andsee what it is and probably
word of mouth would have spreadand been like, oh, the third
episode, it finally picks up,you know.
(19:23):
So, yeah, they, like you said,the portrayal of Master Chief,
they got it just right.
They really present him as acertifiable badass and a leader,
without it being corny orcheesy, because he really like
they are fully reliant upon him.
And I even love the point whereyou know the easter egg, where
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he's like I'm gonna need yourammo, like you know, you're
taking your weapons from fromyour colleagues, like that was a
really nice touch.
But the part with, like thepistol, really really good.
So the dependability on Chiefto stay alive was really really
smart.
Yeah, then we get to the portionwith the warthog.
(20:07):
Again, atmosphere in the woods,so cool, I don't know that
we've really and granted, it'sbeen a while since I played a
halo game, but I don't rememberanything atmospheric like that
similar in the games really, Imean the.
I just remember like reallybeing kind of I know this is
going to simplify it, but like alot of mindless open areas,
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shooting and that part like thatthat really is really cool Like
present the Covenant as like aterrifying enemy, which they
would be if you were actually inthat situation.
So, again, as we transitionEric to the scene in the woods,
what were your thoughts on that?
Because, again, putting thejackals in the tree line, super
smart, love that.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, so when you play the game, the game is
really bright and vibrant and Ithink that is part of the appeal
.
I mean, any major Halo map thatI remember that didn't take
place in like some type ofbuilding or with walls, like if
it was outdoors.
You're thinking green grassLike you are thinking colors,
vibrancy.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You can always see the Halo ring.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Always, always, blue sky, all of that.
So this was nice because againand you know we've we've watched
a lot of shows, especiallyolder shows use the dark to
their advantage to cover up someof those things that would
require special effects andother elements.
So they were able to use thatto their advantage and I thought
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that was really smart.
And other elements so they wereable to use that to their
advantage and I thought that wasreally smart.
Again, this is definitely morethan what a traditional web
series would probably get,because it's a big property, but
it's definitely not anything, Ithink, amazing where you would
say, oh, this wasn't done verywell considering the budget.
I think the wood scenespecifically shows how they were
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able to go beyond that budgetand really make something that
felt unique and somewhat special.
You know, with a franchise that, to that point, had already had
a lot of iterations, a lot ofversions, a lot of sequels, and
the fact that it offeredanything new, I think is is a
win.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And to answer your earlier question, the budget was
about $10 million, so prettysolid.
Most of that went to the secondhalf, for sure, yeah,
definitely.
And animating, I think the Elitespecifically, probably,
specifically, yeah, talkingabout 13 years ago, so yeah, so
that section's is really good.
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Then you get the reveal of thehunter, which again the first
time you see a hunter in halo.
It's like a really scaryexperience and they once again
really nailed that.
But compare and contrast whenyou meet a hunter the first time
in the halo game again big openarea, you can kind of dodge and
run around this.
You really get the sense thatif this thing catches us like we
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are screwed, um.
And then you get probably thebest emotional beat in the in
this, um, in the movie whensilva dies and I'll give credit
to tom green here, definitely areally good performance, really
honed in on those emotions.
So want to give credit wherecredit is due.
If we're going to give themshit for, you know, not
performances, we do have to givethem praise when it was pretty
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solid.
So, you know, not Oscar-levelacting, but it didn't need to be
, it just needed to bebelievable and we had spent
enough time with the characterto know that there was a real
bond and obviously a romanticrelationship there.
So really solid.
And again another, anothermoment where they demonstrate
that, yes, chief is like this.
He is a, you know, a trainedkilling machine, but he is still
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a person like I remember theone part that really stood out
to me was and he's on comms andhe's like I'm not leaving these
people, like I'm not gonna leavethem behind, and they're like
the only people that were leftthat survived.
Here he shows emotion, he givescondolences and those are
things that like we we don't seein the halo games, like all
these soldiers are just dyingall over the place.
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We don't really get a momentwhere he's like I'm so sorry,
like just showing that empathytowards his fellow soldier.
So, again, really nice moment,and wanted to make sure we gave
tom and and anna popplewell, whoplays silva, uh their kudos
because, yeah, it was, it was agood moment yeah, sad, yeah good
moment, sad, but yeah, no, itwas, it was good.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Again.
Can't stress enough that ifyou're never gonna watch this,
definitely at least look up someclips to really see some of the
really high moments.
And if you're a halo fan, I dothink it's still at least worth
up some clips to really see someof the really high moments.
And if you're a Halo fan, I dothink it's still at least worth
giving this a shot.
And Phil, for a game that wehad no interest in playing that
year before we kind of talkabout the reception and our
(24:48):
scores for this game.
I think you know this gamestruggled a lot and it kind of
needed this advertisement ofHalo from the Switch.
You know we were in thattransition from Bungie to 343.
And then there were so manygames that came out in the
single player space but it alsohad competition in multiplayer.
So you had, like Far Cry 3around this time, dishonored,
(25:11):
mass Effect 3, telltale's, theWalking Dead, max Payne 3,
sleeping Dogs, call of Duty,black Ops 2.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop the count.
That's a nasty lineup, oh my.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
God and this game reviewed.
Well, halo 4 reviewed very wellAssassin's Creed 3, Resident
Evil 6.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Prototype 2.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Oh, Resident Evil 6 sucked, but oh, Prototype 2 and
the Darkness 2 came out in thesame year.
That's kind of interesting.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
We've talked about the Darkness 2.
If you want to go back, andwell, the Darkness.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
If you want to go listen to that episode?
Yeah, and Prototype.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, both games probably better than Halo 4, at
least in our opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, we even gave Dishonored a chance.
That was a disappointment.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
But yeah, that had you written all over it, and if
you didn't like it, then I justdid not.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But with that being said, phil, maybe let's talk a
little bit about the reception,our scores for this.
We'll do a quick game of morelike this I don't know what this
could possibly look like andthen, um, yeah, I'll talk about
the comparison to the first twoepisodes of paramount's halo ign
gave halo 4 a 9.8 I'm tellingyou at the time, phil, at the
(26:28):
time we're definitely in aminority fucking no, but listen,
and I'm gonna explain it withmy score.
At the time, this was so fuckingcool like I cannot stress I'm
talking about the game halo 4.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The game got all the game yeah a 9.8.
Yeah, ign's been sus that longyep okay 9.8, 9.8 wild yeah, I
I'm sure I like checked out Halo4, because I'm pretty sure I
was still working at GameStop, Iremember playing it.
(27:01):
I don't remember playing itlong no, anyway, that distracted
the hell out of me anyway.
Halo 4 I actually forgot tolook.
Does this have a RottenTomatoes score?
I'm sure?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
it does.
Yeah, I've got it does.
No, no, yeah, I've got it up.
Okay, 69%.
You're a fucking child, dude.
You're an absolute child.
Nice 69% audience score onRotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Only one review, which was not positive.
On IMDb, though, a 6.7 average,which is respectable, and on
Letterboxd, a 3.0 flat average.
So, again, very respectable,and I think again, with time,
this movie does not age well.
(27:55):
I do think it was at its peakwhen it first came out.
Phil, you had your first stop.
You've had your first view ofthis here in 2025.
So what is your final opinionand your score?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah.
So again in the first half Iwas like, oh boy, briar's going
to be really upset with us.
This is really boring, thesecharacters aren't very good.
But again, when we get toprobably the I would say maybe
70 mark which is way too latefor it to get interesting, to be
fair, I was fully committed.
Um, I was paying, I was sittingupright ready to see what was
(28:33):
going to happen and I gave thisa three and a half and I think
as a project in full I don'tthink it's really better than a
3.25.
But I gave it that extra 0.5just because, again,
atmospherically and Master Chiefbeing really really cool and
the action being really solid, Igave it the extra half star
bump.
So that's where I landed, extrahalf star bump.
(28:53):
So that's where I landed.
But again, I think when youjudge it as a product, a project
, just kind of in full, a threereally is kind of like where it
belongs probably.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And that's exactly where I landed.
When I saw this movie for thefirst time, I really enjoyed it.
And when there were talks of uspossibly doing this episode, I
had to think like what would Igive that movie now?
And it's crazy to say.
But I was like, yeah, that wasa three and a half, three and a
half.
I remember the first half beingboring, second half, uh great.
(29:25):
After watching it I just feel athree is appropriate, like it's
a.
It's something I wouldrecommend at the end of the day.
But, like again, I don't thinkthis has a lot of rewatch
ability.
And if it was on, unless it'sthe good part, I'm not going to
be watching it.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
either you tell me to come back in like 15 minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, like, and then I might be busy on other things
at that point.
So I'd be very curious.
I think this was a greatrecommendation.
I would just be very curiousfor people who have fond
memories of it when it was theirlast time watching it and how
they would perceive it today.
Those would be probably thebiggest things that I would be
curious about.
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On the other front, we willtalk about the fact that this
was a clear recipe for disasterto show what a tv series could
possibly look like.
So the fact that we still nevergot a halo movie is crazy.
And before we talk about the tvstructure and my experience
(30:30):
with paramount's Halo, which wehave talked about before but we
had never seen Phil, this morelike list is crazy.
I don't think I want to do this,but I'm going to do it for
entertainment value only.
Okay, here we go.
This is not fair.
It's just not right.
Phil, I'm just going to rattlethem off quick.
We get comfortable.
(30:50):
This is not even going to beclip worthy, so I'm just going
to Halo Forward onto Dawn or anyof these films I'm just going
to rattle off.
Is Interstellar on this list?
I'm going to rattle off the top10 movies that are on here Okay
, dune, dune, avatar, way ofWater.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Well, I haven't seen Avatar, way of water that's okay
, avatar probably Avatar.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Even I can't the first Avengers, avengers.
For some reason, there's threeseparate Star Wars films.
Episode three doesn't matter.
Rogue One.
Rogue One is my favorite StarWars movie, alien or.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Aliens I haven't seen them, but probably Aliens, I'm
sure.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Terminator 2 Judgment Day.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I also haven't seen a Terminator movie, so oh.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
That's crazy, yeah.
And then District 9 is on here,shout out District 9.
I really enjoyed.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
District 9.
Yeah, we're never going to getDistrict 10, but I enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
District 9.
The first Transformers.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Transformers.
The first Transformers is funGoated.
It's stupid, but it's fun.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Man of Steel.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Man of Steel, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You thought a little bit too hard.
I did yeah you thought a littlebit too hard, I did.
Yeah, yeah, that's all of them.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
What about other?
Is there other video gamerecommendations on there?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So IMDB is more like this is just other Halo projects
, so I had to go to LetterboxdVideo game.
Great question, I don't I don'tknow if.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay, well, here's a similar.
My similar films might be alittle bit different.
I think it may be done off oflike maybe similar, movies that
I've already seen, becauseBattle for LA is on here and
that movie fucking sucked.
I would absolutely watch thisbefore Battle for LA.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I think Battle for LA is on here.
For me it's just like low thatmovie is terrible.
I haven't rated that.
Let me rate that Dude Titan AE.
That's such a callback have youever seen that?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, like I don't think so.
The Tomorrow War I'd probablywatch this before the Tomorrow
War.
Would you rather watch this?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Oh yeah, you like the Tomorrow War, would you?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
rather watch this or the new Chris Pratt Millie Bobby
Brown movie.
I'd rather watch this, AlthoughI don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
It could be good.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Edge of Tomorrow is on my list Like come on.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
After Earth, oh.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
The.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Creator.
Yeah, anyway, didn't you seethe Creator?
I did Also a three.
I'd watch the Creator beforethis, though, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, so that, anyway .
How did your you logged intoParamount Plus for the first
year If Paramount Plus were aphysical item?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yes, that's exactly what happened had to dig deep
into the.
I didn't even know I had it ifI'm being honest with you, I do
and so I watched it and I knewimmediately the movie was a
three and I was like I want toadd a little bit more discussion
to the dialogue that we'rehaving A little bit more of a
(33:56):
viewpoint of Halo as a medium inpop culture, in film and TV.
So obviously I saw the webseries, aka the film, and then I
wanted to see the infamousParamount series and film.
It's bad, it's just not verygood.
I mentioned network televisionearlier as like stuff they would
(34:20):
do.
That's what the Halo series wasdoing.
Not only is it very generic bythe numbers, it doesn't really
feel like it's expanding theworld very much.
It feels like we're just seeinga Master Chief cosplay.
The reason it also feels likethat is because this
motherfucker takes off hishelmet in episode one.
I knew his helmet came off.
(34:41):
Everybody knows that In thefirst episode no way man.
And he has his helmet off mostof the second episode.
It's just not interesting.
I don't like the dialogue.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Is he his butt in the first episode or is that later?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I might have missed the butt.
I think that's later.
He does have sex, I think, atsome point.
So I didn't?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's disgusting.
Where I wish I at least gotsome entertainment value in my
watch.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I will be fair to mention, I was also doing stuff
in my garage when I watched this.
I was very much multitaskingwith the better use of your time
, but nothing, it should benoted.
I don't normally multitaskthrough stuff, so going into
something multitasking alreadyputs me at a disadvantage.
But, phil, nothing caught myeye the way that, like the last
30 minutes of Forward Unto Dawndid in the Halo series, like
anytime there was anything ofnote, action wise.
(35:36):
Sure, it looks a little bitbetter because it's 2025 and
this came out in the 2020s orwhatever, but it's nothing like.
It's nothing great.
Now I want to know what thebudget for the Halo series was,
because if Forward Unto Dawn didthis with 10 million and most
of that went into the good partof the final hour of this film,
(35:58):
I don't know what that budgetfor the Paramount show was, but
it could not have warranted whatwe get.
And again, it's just veryuninspiring and I don't really
need to watch more to understandwhy it didn't succeed.
If you're one of the Halotruthers and you want to tell me
that, oh, it gets really goodat episode seven, good for you.
(36:19):
Enjoy your two seasons.
I don't know that there arethose people.
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, most shows will have their defenders, but I
have never once heard somebodystand up, you know, like the
meme where the guy's standing upLike I enjoy the Halo show.
That doesn't exist.
And the budget, if you'rewondering, is probably somewhere
between $100 to $200 million iswhat it says.
Oh my god, my balls just cameinto my throat.
That was crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Alright that's insane .
Yeah, no, that makes no sense.
Makes no sense to me.
Yeah, so watching the first twoepisodes, guys, I would not
recommend.
It Wasn't a good time, and Iwould to end the more like this
comparison I'd much rather watchthis twice than to watch either
(37:05):
of those first two episodes ofthe Halo series.
So I can now finally say I havesomething of an opinion on it.
Yeah, no, I immediately knew,though, that this was probably
not going to be my jam, and mostpeople felt the same way,
because it died pretty quicklyafter the first season.
So, briar, congratulations, myfriend, you are one of one.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
We didn't go over our rankings.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
One of two.
Yeah, rankings Forward UntilDawn is towards the bottom.
But that's not a bad thing.
It's three out of five, for allof the shit that I get is a
good movie.
To me it is between Adventuresof Tintin and it is above Real
Steel.
You bastard, I may have donethat to hurt you a little bit.
(37:53):
An argument could be made itcould be between real number and
Tucker and Dale versus evil.
It's at number 26.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Okay, we're literally basically worse the same.
I am at 25, right behind realsteel and before Guillermo del
Toro's Pinocchio.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Oh, my God yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I gave that a three.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Did you really?
And it's that low, that's crazy.
What did I give it?
I gave it three and a half.
Okay, I mean rating wise, it'snot much different.
Pinocchio is at 16 for me.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, it's weird.
I mean you're not.
It's a fine movie, but also.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
It's weird.
I mean, you're not.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
It's a fine movie, but also Pinocchio as a
character does not interest me.
Yeah, no, outside of the Shrekuniverse, which is the best
Pinocchio and I will not hearany backtalk or arguments,
otherwise we won't be taking anysubmissions.
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Speaker 1 (38:53):
So, with that being said, I think we got a hefty
amount of discussion about thisparticular project.
Again, congratulations, BriarPhil.
I think this is a great placeto wrap up, and, if you like
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So, phil, tell them where theycan find us.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
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We might have multipleiterations of that, so you have
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we are entering a very specialmonth, Patreon month, where
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So for this edition of Late tothe Party, we are going to be
talking about Halo 4, ForwardUnto Dawn be talking about Halo
(01:07):
4 Forward Unto Dawn.
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Might I say so?
We'll let you know all aboutthat at the end of the episode.
But yeah, eric, I'm trying toput myself back in the shoes of
(01:28):
a Halo fan.
Right Back in 2012,.
Halo 4 really kind of markedthe beginning of where we jumped
off the Halo train, right.
So this came out.
I knew of it, but I had notwatched it until we did this
episode.
So excited to talk about thisand hopefully, briar, we don't
(01:49):
let you down.
This is the secondrecommendation for us and the
last one didn't go so well.
So if you want to know how wefelt about Porco Rosso, check
that episode out, but let's jumpinto Halo 4, forward unto dawn.
Letterboxd synopsis.
Unsc cadet Thomas Lasky mustconquer his inner fears and join
(02:10):
forces with Super SoldierJohn-117 to take down a massive
faction of the Covenant.
Eric, I want to do this episodea little bit differently than
we typically do when we talkabout movies and we talk about
likes and we talk about dislikesdo when we talk about movies
and we talk about likes and wetalk about dislikes.
We really have to break thisinto first half and second half,
maybe even like first threefourths in last quarter, when it
(02:32):
comes to forward unto dawn.
So I want to preface theconversation by starting it off
like that.
But for you you said youwatched this when it originally
come out, correct?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I did watched this when it originally come out
correct.
I did so.
I actually watched this as itwas released, which was in five
separate 15 minute segments orweb series on youtube, and that
is how I consumed it.
Phil, you talked a little bit.
The only thing I really knewwas that, uh, you know you had
finished it and you were likethank god that this was all put
(03:05):
together in one place, becausemaybe your experience would have
been different.
For me, I mean, 2012 was over adecade ago, so totally different
vibes, sense of time andconsuming content.
It worked for me.
It worked for me and, honestly,it was a fond memory that I was
(03:30):
worried would become tarnishedas I rewatched it in preparation
for this episode.
Luckily, it didn't quite hitthat fear, but you know we're
going to talk about did this agevery well?
What did we think about it?
As far as a Halo project andthen also as a quote, a quote
unquote movie as people nowwatch it, we probably have some
positives and negatives to goover, but I definitely agree.
(03:52):
I'm perfectly fine with maybebreaking it down into either
each part or, maybe you know,two parts at a time.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, so you know we're introduced to this
character and this is clearlythe.
You know it's not the Spartanschool which I think I had
assumed going into it.
So you get these characters,brand new, original characters
who are very uninteresting.
Lots of pretty basic backstory,if you can call it that, for
(04:25):
most of them.
Our main character, whose nameI literally just read and I
forgot already Lasky he is, youknow, pretty clearly gone
through.
You know he's the typicalwhat's the word I'm looking for?
Like legacy character right,like his brother was a really
decorated soldier.
Right, like his brother was areally decorated soldier.
(04:47):
His it sounds like his mom wasalso very decorated.
Who, I believe, is thecharacter in the show Right,
that is, is that his mom or didI miss that?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, I'm pretty sure OK.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Did they ever really say I didn't?
I don't know if I, like wasn'tpaying attention.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I think it was.
I think it's one of thosethings where you might overthink
it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, so all the women are also sir.
Maybe there's maybe this is,this is a non gendered society
in the Halo universe.
I didn't know that, but thatwas a little confusing as well.
Everybody was referred to assir, but yeah, so in the first
half I sent you that meme, eric,right, and they had us in the
first half.
Not going to lie, I was pretty,pretty worried because this
(05:28):
it's pretty boring and you know,master Chief doesn't show up
until later, which we'll talkabout, and these characters are
about as shallow as the kiddiepool and I was like, oh no,
where is this going to go?
The action was also also likeokay, like you know, it's the.
It ends up being like apaintball match, you know.
(05:48):
So it kind of like removes anytype of drama there.
So I don't know what were yourearly thoughts about this, if
you remember what it was like 13years ago, and then what was it
like when you rewatched it?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, and then quick correction Maybe it wasn't the
mom, cause I started researchingI was like no, that's a
different name.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Okay, the way they interacted, it seemed like maybe
they were like that was her andthat's how he got in.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, so I think this back and forth proves one thing
, which is that the first twoand a half parts of this maybe
you could argue the you thefirst three parts are are pretty
uninteresting the movie.
So when it came out as a series, you know you're trying to give
it time.
You're also understanding whenyou go into this this is not
like a big budget project.
So I would look at this more oflike a passion project and when
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looking at it through thoselens, I was willing to give it a
little bit more time to cook.
As a film you're essentiallylooking at over the first hour
of an hour and a half film, or Ishould say almost an hour of an
hour and a half film, beingvery, by the numbers, low risk
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and it's not doing a lot ofworld building.
Like you are learning moreabout the characters who are
uninteresting.
A lot of it's hard to put on ayoung cast already and the fact
that they're essentially justgoing through training for half
of this film.
I don't think it serves themvery well when, again, a lot of
the world isn't being built.
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It's almost assuming that youknow of Halo and you're going to
get enough references to stayengaged.
Know of Halo and you're goingto get enough references to stay
engaged.
That works for big nerds thatare fans of the genre or the
medium, but not for it being acohesive plot structure.
So back then, I remembered thatwhen shit goes off in part three
(07:43):
and the attack happens, we aregoing to talk about this freely.
I don't know if we mentionedthat.
Uh, this is also something nota lot of people probably have
seen.
If you're getting this messagenow, I would tell you this is
about the part you want to watch, because all the cool shit
happens when this attack happensto these cadets.
It gets pretty crazy.
(08:04):
Actually A lot, a lot, a lot, alot of moving parts.
But I do remember that back in2012, that it really picked up
and that the end was the bestpart and, rewatching it, I
definitely struggled to getthrough the first part, even
though I had seen it before,even though I had seen it before
, but the second half was justas sweet as watching it the
(08:26):
first time, especially whencomparing it to the modern day
Halo television show, which Iwent ahead and watched a little
bit of.
So we'll get to that in a bit.
But, phil, honestly, again, Ithink most people that watch
this have the same opinion.
Had us in the first half, notgoing to lie.
Second half is a banger.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, it's just really slowly paced there in the
first half.
Like you said, it's basicallyall training montage and not a
good training montage either,like this guy's not good at what
he does, even though we aretold that that you know his
family has this incrediblelegacy and and, like you said,
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it's really really tough becausethese are young actors and
actresses.
It is a huge ip.
Halo 4, I think, was the firstone correct me if I'm wrong,
eric the first non-bungie halo?
Yeah, this was the.
So halo 343 was the first 343Halo, or it may have been ODST,
but it was like right in thatera where we were transitioning
(09:29):
away from Bungie, so peopleprobably had a lot of issues.
Here's the problem with atleast how this begins, because
again, as we were alluding to it, this ends very strong.
I don't think we've still havenot seen anything better live
action Halo than Halo Landfall,which came out in 2000,.
Also 2012, I think, and thatwas the one that was like fan
(09:52):
made, if I remember correctly,and if you look that up you'll
remember just scrolling throughthe video we haven't gotten
anything that good as far aslive action since then.
So the fact that those came outI don't know if this came out
in the same year.
It was uploaded by Bungie May8th 2012.
So that probably didn't help.
(10:12):
But I just remember, aroundthis time, us not being excited
for Halo 4.
And this also could havecoincided with us transitioning
away from online gaming for alittle bit.
You know, we went about five,six years without doing anything
like that, and I don't evenreally remember being that
excited for Halo 4.
Halo 4, I believe, is the onewhere they all it looks like
(10:36):
you're going to be like fightingagainst Master Chief, but then
when that, when that fightfinally does happen, they just
end up being it's like theMarvel Cinematic Universe thing.
So, again, putting a lot onthis cast is a little unfair.
But if you're going to attachthe Halo name for it, then
there's going to be very loftyexpectations.
So I mean, you tell me, or didyou have any connection up until
(11:01):
, I think, up until maybe Silvaand Lasky have that conversation
right before the attack.
There's no really emotionaldepth whatsoever to any of these
characters until that moment,right before shit hits the fan.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
No, 100 percent building to make the deaths in
the second half not feel likelike they tugged at your heart
string or like you felt the lossof the character.
But they worked in the sense ofthe shock value.
It wasn't like, oh, I didn'tgive a damn about this character
at all, it was.
(11:38):
You know this.
These characters weren't veryfleshed out, but I still felt
like when some of thesecharacters are dying in that
second half, when this attackfrom the covenant is happening,
you know, it was definitely likea oh, I didn't, I didn't think
they were going to do that.
Or maybe the amount of cadetsthat are killed in the second
half, because when that attackhappens, I mean, phil, I'm
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curious what your thought was,but that's one of people's
favorite things is the depictionof the Covenant and then, of
course, master Chief.
I mean those are the twobiggest things.
So to say that these kids aremaybe the weakest part of the
whole thing makes a lot of sensewhen the strengths are the
things that tie you back to thegame makes a lot of sense when
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the strengths are the thingsthat tie you back to the game.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, so let's not really dwell on the boring any
longer because again, rightbefore so they have that
conversation.
You know he's about to get thatmedical discharge which, hey,
collect those benefits, homie.
But that's not, unfortunately,that's not the route he goes.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
That's right that Halo FMLA.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Exactly so, and then everything goes to shit, and
that's when, visually, thingsreally step up and it like would
have been.
It just seems like it wouldhave been much smarter to kind
of even that stuff out, like putsome cool stuff here.
They allude to a faction that Idon't think we've ever heard of
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in terms of Halo, like theResistance or something along
those lines.
And again, we're not.
We are Halo fans, but we aren'tdeep into the Halo lore like
that, so I didn't know anythinglike that.
I guess the parts where they'rediscovering, like that found
footage is kind of cool, butit's so infrequent and it's
surrounded by so much bleh thatyou know you don't really focus
on enough.
But shit goes down right.
The ODST is coming in, supercool, and the best decision that
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this, that Forward Unto Dawn,made and this ultimately led me
to probably giving it a littlebit of a higher score than it
deserves is atmospheric, wise.
The presentation of thecovenant is on point because,
remember, this is 2012 and Idon't know about you I've never
really been it's not.
I've never been like afraid ofany type of alien design, or we
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were just really desensitized byit by the time the fourth,
fifth halo game came around, soI think, the first time you see
a Covenant soldier what's theone with the?
Why am I blanking on the onewith the sword?
What's that type of Covenantcalled?
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Jackals.
No Jackals are the ones withthe shields.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Oh my gosh, briar's going to kill us.
Elites, elites the first timeyou see an Elite that's cool.
A Hunter the first time you seean elite that's cool.
A hunter the first time youencounter a hunter in Halo 1.
Terrifying.
But by the time this game comesaround, you're totally
desensitized by it.
You're not really scared ofthem.
But the cloak and theindivisible liberty and justice
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for all.
The invisible elite is so cool.
The Invisible Elite is so cooland I think they really captured
the essence of how terrifyingthat situation would be, because
, again in the game, you don'treally care about it.
You're just going through,you're killing them, you're
sticking them with a plasmagrenade, you're moving on here,
they're defenseless, they'retaking people out and all you
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see is this sword.
And remember, this is the firsttime.
They don't know what theCovenant is, for this entire
time they thought they weregoing to fight against other
people and then this terrifyingmonster shows up.
So let's just start there, eric.
The presentation of the elitewas spot on and I was like all
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right, finally, here we go Abouttime.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, we get.
We get all of the like kind ofthe greatest hits with the.
We mentioned the jackals, thehunters.
You know we get a lot of thatin here and I I just really like
the environment.
You know they use the darknessto their benefit.
Again, this is probably a lowbudget project.
I'd be curious to see how muchthey spent on this and if that
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information is easily accessible, but I I can't imagine that it
was very much.
And again, it just felt like,especially in that latter half,
it felt like it came from aplace of love for the character,
for the franchise, and I thinkthey did a great job.
You know, in that, in thatsecond half specifically, and
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the fact that you know youtalked about the environment or
like you know kind of the horrorstructure of these, these
aliens attacking, I mean thatworks because they they really
do have consequences.
This wasn't like a master chiefrallies all the kids to beat
the aliens.
That's such a that's such anetwork TV show move to happen.
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That doesn't happen here.
There are consequences.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
There is death when he's like which one of you is
the best shot?
The kid's like you, probably.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
They were probably their most charming, the
funniest, the most sympatheticwhen Master Chief is around.
So, like I just I don't.
I understand for the projectthat it was.
You probably couldn't go allout with Master Chief.
You know you mentionedsprinkling some stuff throughout
.
I understand, maybe, why not?
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I just wish there was moreinteresting stuff leading up to
it.
That would have really bumpedup this score.
And think it's respect thereception overall, because when
briar asked us to do this, likethis is a fair late to the party
selection but it's probably oneof our lower on the pop culture
totem pole.
Like if you're not a halo fan,you probably never heard of this
(17:27):
where we've done uh, you knowtop gun and pretty woman.
You know those are movies thatlike are timeless people know of
.
Uh, this is probably lower onthe totem pole but I still think
it fits the bill because thisis an iconic moment.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
We did watch Lego Ninjago once, Eric.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
You didn't have to bring that up and you know that.
You know you didn't have to saythat I can Spoiler.
I can't confirm this moviebetter than Lego Ninjago, for
sure.
For sure Agreed, but no, I justthink that you know, for the
time that it came out, I thinkthey did a really good job,
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everything considered, and againthat second half, specifically
with Master Chief.
If you get Master Chief wrong,it doesn't work, it's just
boring, which is the worst thinga movie can be.
But it really is going to be anissue with fans if you don't
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get Master Chief right.
So the fact that they got himright, I think gives this movie
a lot of grace.
And I'd be very curious ifBriar has the same nostalgia I
had prior to about a week agowhen I watched it for the second
time, or if this is a rewatch,maybe.
Maybe him and others put thison and they enjoy it like that.
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I don't know, now that I'vewatched it a second time about a
decade apart, I don't know ifthis has a lot of rewatchability
other than to start it from themiddle or see clips of the
second half.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, and, like I said, you know, if this, if I
had watched this episodically, Idon't know that I would have
continued.
However, because they werereleased in 15 minute segments,
I'd probably be like, oh yeah,okay, the Halo of Forge and
Tadon came out this week.
You know, I'll check it out andsee what it is and probably
word of mouth would have spreadand been like, oh, the third
episode, it finally picks up,you know.
(19:23):
So, yeah, they, like you said,the portrayal of Master Chief,
they got it just right.
They really present him as acertifiable badass and a leader,
without it being corny orcheesy, because he really like
they are fully reliant upon him.
And I even love the point whereyou know the easter egg, where
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he's like I'm gonna need yourammo, like you know, you're
taking your weapons from fromyour colleagues, like that was a
really nice touch.
But the part with, like thepistol, really really good.
So the dependability on Chiefto stay alive was really really
smart.
Yeah, then we get to the portionwith the warthog.
(20:07):
Again, atmosphere in the woods,so cool, I don't know that
we've really and granted, it'sbeen a while since I played a
halo game, but I don't rememberanything atmospheric like that
similar in the games really, Imean the.
I just remember like reallybeing kind of I know this is
going to simplify it, but like alot of mindless open areas,
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shooting and that part like thatthat really is really cool Like
present the Covenant as like aterrifying enemy, which they
would be if you were actually inthat situation.
So, again, as we transitionEric to the scene in the woods,
what were your thoughts on that?
Because, again, putting thejackals in the tree line, super
smart, love that.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, so when you play the game, the game is
really bright and vibrant and Ithink that is part of the appeal
.
I mean, any major Halo map thatI remember that didn't take
place in like some type ofbuilding or with walls, like if
it was outdoors.
You're thinking green grassLike you are thinking colors,
vibrancy.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You can always see the Halo ring.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Always, always, blue sky, all of that.
So this was nice because againand you know we've we've watched
a lot of shows, especiallyolder shows use the dark to
their advantage to cover up someof those things that would
require special effects andother elements.
So they were able to use thatto their advantage and I thought
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that was really smart.
And other elements so they wereable to use that to their
advantage and I thought that wasreally smart.
Again, this is definitely morethan what a traditional web
series would probably get,because it's a big property, but
it's definitely not anything, Ithink, amazing where you would
say, oh, this wasn't done verywell considering the budget.
I think the wood scenespecifically shows how they were
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able to go beyond that budgetand really make something that
felt unique and somewhat special.
You know, with a franchise that, to that point, had already had
a lot of iterations, a lot ofversions, a lot of sequels, and
the fact that it offeredanything new, I think is is a
win.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And to answer your earlier question, the budget was
about $10 million, so prettysolid.
Most of that went to the secondhalf, for sure, yeah,
definitely.
And animating, I think the Elitespecifically, probably,
specifically, yeah, talkingabout 13 years ago, so yeah, so
that section's is really good.
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Then you get the reveal of thehunter, which again the first
time you see a hunter in halo.
It's like a really scaryexperience and they once again
really nailed that.
But compare and contrast whenyou meet a hunter the first time
in the halo game again big openarea, you can kind of dodge and
run around this.
You really get the sense thatif this thing catches us like we
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are screwed, um.
And then you get probably thebest emotional beat in the in
this, um, in the movie whensilva dies and I'll give credit
to tom green here, definitely areally good performance, really
honed in on those emotions.
So want to give credit wherecredit is due.
If we're going to give themshit for, you know, not
performances, we do have to givethem praise when it was pretty
(23:19):
solid.
So, you know, not Oscar-levelacting, but it didn't need to be
, it just needed to bebelievable and we had spent
enough time with the characterto know that there was a real
bond and obviously a romanticrelationship there.
So really solid.
And again another, anothermoment where they demonstrate
that, yes, chief is like this.
He is a, you know, a trainedkilling machine, but he is still
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a person like I remember theone part that really stood out
to me was and he's on comms andhe's like I'm not leaving these
people, like I'm not gonna leavethem behind, and they're like
the only people that were leftthat survived.
Here he shows emotion, he givescondolences and those are
things that like we we don't seein the halo games, like all
these soldiers are just dyingall over the place.
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We don't really get a momentwhere he's like I'm so sorry,
like just showing that empathytowards his fellow soldier.
So, again, really nice moment,and wanted to make sure we gave
tom and and anna popplewell, whoplays silva, uh their kudos
because, yeah, it was, it was agood moment yeah, sad, yeah good
moment, sad, but yeah, no, itwas, it was good.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Again.
Can't stress enough that ifyou're never gonna watch this,
definitely at least look up someclips to really see some of the
really high moments.
And if you're a halo fan, I dothink it's still at least worth
up some clips to really see someof the really high moments.
And if you're a Halo fan, I dothink it's still at least worth
giving this a shot.
And Phil, for a game that wehad no interest in playing that
year before we kind of talkabout the reception and our
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scores for this game.
I think you know this gamestruggled a lot and it kind of
needed this advertisement ofHalo from the Switch.
You know we were in thattransition from Bungie to 343.
And then there were so manygames that came out in the
single player space but it alsohad competition in multiplayer.
So you had, like Far Cry 3around this time, dishonored,
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mass Effect 3, telltale's, theWalking Dead, max Payne 3,
sleeping Dogs, call of Duty,black Ops 2.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop the count.
That's a nasty lineup, oh my.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
God and this game reviewed.
Well, halo 4 reviewed very wellAssassin's Creed 3, Resident
Evil 6.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Prototype 2.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Oh, Resident Evil 6 sucked, but oh, Prototype 2 and
the Darkness 2 came out in thesame year.
That's kind of interesting.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
We've talked about the Darkness 2.
If you want to go back, andwell, the Darkness.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
If you want to go listen to that episode?
Yeah, and Prototype.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, both games probably better than Halo 4, at
least in our opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, we even gave Dishonored a chance.
That was a disappointment.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
But yeah, that had you written all over it, and if
you didn't like it, then I justdid not.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But with that being said, phil, maybe let's talk a
little bit about the reception,our scores for this.
We'll do a quick game of morelike this I don't know what this
could possibly look like andthen, um, yeah, I'll talk about
the comparison to the first twoepisodes of paramount's halo ign
gave halo 4 a 9.8 I'm tellingyou at the time, phil, at the
(26:28):
time we're definitely in aminority fucking no, but listen,
and I'm gonna explain it withmy score.
At the time, this was so fuckingcool like I cannot stress I'm
talking about the game halo 4.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The game got all the game yeah a 9.8.
Yeah, ign's been sus that longyep okay 9.8, 9.8 wild yeah, I
I'm sure I like checked out Halo4, because I'm pretty sure I
was still working at GameStop, Iremember playing it.
(27:01):
I don't remember playing itlong no, anyway, that distracted
the hell out of me anyway.
Halo 4 I actually forgot tolook.
Does this have a RottenTomatoes score?
I'm sure?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
it does.
Yeah, I've got it does.
No, no, yeah, I've got it up.
Okay, 69%.
You're a fucking child, dude.
You're an absolute child.
Nice 69% audience score onRotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Only one review, which was not positive.
On IMDb, though, a 6.7 average,which is respectable, and on
Letterboxd, a 3.0 flat average.
So, again, very respectable,and I think again, with time,
this movie does not age well.
(27:55):
I do think it was at its peakwhen it first came out.
Phil, you had your first stop.
You've had your first view ofthis here in 2025.
So what is your final opinionand your score?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah.
So again in the first half Iwas like, oh boy, briar's going
to be really upset with us.
This is really boring, thesecharacters aren't very good.
But again, when we get toprobably the I would say maybe
70 mark which is way too latefor it to get interesting, to be
fair, I was fully committed.
Um, I was paying, I was sittingupright ready to see what was
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going to happen and I gave thisa three and a half and I think
as a project in full I don'tthink it's really better than a
3.25.
But I gave it that extra 0.5just because, again,
atmospherically and Master Chiefbeing really really cool and
the action being really solid, Igave it the extra half star
bump.
So that's where I landed, extrahalf star bump.
(28:53):
So that's where I landed.
But again, I think when youjudge it as a product, a project
, just kind of in full, a threereally is kind of like where it
belongs probably.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And that's exactly where I landed.
When I saw this movie for thefirst time, I really enjoyed it.
And when there were talks of uspossibly doing this episode, I
had to think like what would Igive that movie now?
And it's crazy to say.
But I was like, yeah, that wasa three and a half, three and a
half.
I remember the first half beingboring, second half, uh great.
(29:25):
After watching it I just feel athree is appropriate, like it's
a.
It's something I wouldrecommend at the end of the day.
But, like again, I don't thinkthis has a lot of rewatch
ability.
And if it was on, unless it'sthe good part, I'm not going to
be watching it.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
either you tell me to come back in like 15 minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, like, and then I might be busy on other things
at that point.
So I'd be very curious.
I think this was a greatrecommendation.
I would just be very curiousfor people who have fond
memories of it when it was theirlast time watching it and how
they would perceive it today.
Those would be probably thebiggest things that I would be
curious about.
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On the other front, we willtalk about the fact that this
was a clear recipe for disasterto show what a tv series could
possibly look like.
So the fact that we still nevergot a halo movie is crazy.
And before we talk about the tvstructure and my experience
(30:30):
with paramount's Halo, which wehave talked about before but we
had never seen Phil, this morelike list is crazy.
I don't think I want to do this,but I'm going to do it for
entertainment value only.
Okay, here we go.
This is not fair.
It's just not right.
Phil, I'm just going to rattlethem off quick.
We get comfortable.
(30:50):
This is not even going to beclip worthy, so I'm just going
to Halo Forward onto Dawn or anyof these films I'm just going
to rattle off.
Is Interstellar on this list?
I'm going to rattle off the top10 movies that are on here Okay
, dune, dune, avatar, way ofWater.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Well, I haven't seen Avatar, way of water that's okay
, avatar probably Avatar.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Even I can't the first Avengers, avengers.
For some reason, there's threeseparate Star Wars films.
Episode three doesn't matter.
Rogue One.
Rogue One is my favorite StarWars movie, alien or.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Aliens I haven't seen them, but probably Aliens, I'm
sure.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Terminator 2 Judgment Day.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I also haven't seen a Terminator movie, so oh.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
That's crazy, yeah.
And then District 9 is on here,shout out District 9.
I really enjoyed.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
District 9.
Yeah, we're never going to getDistrict 10, but I enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
District 9.
The first Transformers.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Transformers.
The first Transformers is funGoated.
It's stupid, but it's fun.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Man of Steel.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Man of Steel, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You thought a little bit too hard.
I did yeah you thought a littlebit too hard, I did.
Yeah, yeah, that's all of them.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
What about other?
Is there other video gamerecommendations on there?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So IMDB is more like this is just other Halo projects
, so I had to go to LetterboxdVideo game.
Great question, I don't I don'tknow if.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay, well, here's a similar.
My similar films might be alittle bit different.
I think it may be done off oflike maybe similar, movies that
I've already seen, becauseBattle for LA is on here and
that movie fucking sucked.
I would absolutely watch thisbefore Battle for LA.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I think Battle for LA is on here.
For me it's just like low thatmovie is terrible.
I haven't rated that.
Let me rate that Dude Titan AE.
That's such a callback have youever seen that?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, like I don't think so.
The Tomorrow War I'd probablywatch this before the Tomorrow
War.
Would you rather watch this?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Oh yeah, you like the Tomorrow War, would you?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
rather watch this or the new Chris Pratt Millie Bobby
Brown movie.
I'd rather watch this, AlthoughI don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
It could be good.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Edge of Tomorrow is on my list Like come on.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
After Earth, oh.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
The.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Creator.
Yeah, anyway, didn't you seethe Creator?
I did Also a three.
I'd watch the Creator beforethis, though, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, so that, anyway .
How did your you logged intoParamount Plus for the first
year If Paramount Plus were aphysical item?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yes, that's exactly what happened had to dig deep
into the.
I didn't even know I had it ifI'm being honest with you, I do
and so I watched it and I knewimmediately the movie was a
three and I was like I want toadd a little bit more discussion
to the dialogue that we'rehaving A little bit more of a
(33:56):
viewpoint of Halo as a medium inpop culture, in film and TV.
So obviously I saw the webseries, aka the film, and then I
wanted to see the infamousParamount series and film.
It's bad, it's just not verygood.
I mentioned network televisionearlier as like stuff they would
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do.
That's what the Halo series wasdoing.
Not only is it very generic bythe numbers, it doesn't really
feel like it's expanding theworld very much.
It feels like we're just seeinga Master Chief cosplay.
The reason it also feels likethat is because this
motherfucker takes off hishelmet in episode one.
I knew his helmet came off.
(34:41):
Everybody knows that In thefirst episode no way man.
And he has his helmet off mostof the second episode.
It's just not interesting.
I don't like the dialogue.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Is he his butt in the first episode or is that later?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I might have missed the butt.
I think that's later.
He does have sex, I think, atsome point.
So I didn't?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's disgusting.
Where I wish I at least gotsome entertainment value in my
watch.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I will be fair to mention, I was also doing stuff
in my garage when I watched this.
I was very much multitaskingwith the better use of your time
, but nothing, it should benoted.
I don't normally multitaskthrough stuff, so going into
something multitasking alreadyputs me at a disadvantage.
But, phil, nothing caught myeye the way that, like the last
30 minutes of Forward Unto Dawndid in the Halo series, like
anytime there was anything ofnote, action wise.
(35:36):
Sure, it looks a little bitbetter because it's 2025 and
this came out in the 2020s orwhatever, but it's nothing like.
It's nothing great.
Now I want to know what thebudget for the Halo series was,
because if Forward Unto Dawn didthis with 10 million and most
of that went into the good partof the final hour of this film,
(35:58):
I don't know what that budgetfor the Paramount show was, but
it could not have warranted whatwe get.
And again, it's just veryuninspiring and I don't really
need to watch more to understandwhy it didn't succeed.
If you're one of the Halotruthers and you want to tell me
that, oh, it gets really goodat episode seven, good for you.
(36:19):
Enjoy your two seasons.
I don't know that there arethose people.
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, most shows will have their defenders, but I
have never once heard somebodystand up, you know, like the
meme where the guy's standing upLike I enjoy the Halo show.
That doesn't exist.
And the budget, if you'rewondering, is probably somewhere
between $100 to $200 million iswhat it says.
Oh my god, my balls just cameinto my throat.
That was crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Alright that's insane .
Yeah, no, that makes no sense.
Makes no sense to me.
Yeah, so watching the first twoepisodes, guys, I would not
recommend.
It Wasn't a good time, and Iwould to end the more like this
comparison I'd much rather watchthis twice than to watch either
(37:05):
of those first two episodes ofthe Halo series.
So I can now finally say I havesomething of an opinion on it.
Yeah, no, I immediately knew,though, that this was probably
not going to be my jam, and mostpeople felt the same way,
because it died pretty quicklyafter the first season.
So, briar, congratulations, myfriend, you are one of one.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
We didn't go over our rankings.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
One of two.
Yeah, rankings Forward UntilDawn is towards the bottom.
But that's not a bad thing.
It's three out of five, for allof the shit that I get is a
good movie.
To me it is between Adventuresof Tintin and it is above Real
Steel.
You bastard, I may have donethat to hurt you a little bit.
(37:53):
An argument could be made itcould be between real number and
Tucker and Dale versus evil.
It's at number 26.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Okay, we're literally basically worse the same.
I am at 25, right behind realsteel and before Guillermo del
Toro's Pinocchio.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Oh, my God yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I gave that a three.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Did you really?
And it's that low, that's crazy.
What did I give it?
I gave it three and a half.
Okay, I mean rating wise, it'snot much different.
Pinocchio is at 16 for me.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, it's weird.
I mean you're not.
It's a fine movie, but also.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
It's weird.
I mean, you're not.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
It's a fine movie, but also Pinocchio as a
character does not interest me.
Yeah, no, outside of the Shrekuniverse, which is the best
Pinocchio and I will not hearany backtalk or arguments,
otherwise we won't be taking anysubmissions.
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Speaker 1 (38:53):
So, with that being said, I think we got a hefty
amount of discussion about thisparticular project.
Again, congratulations, BriarPhil.
I think this is a great placeto wrap up, and, if you like
this episode, join our Patreon.
We'll talk about that in asecond.
The rest of the month, though,is going to be episodes just
like this.
So, phil, tell them where theycan find us.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, you can find everything you need Wait for it.
Podcast related in the Linktreelink in the show notes of this
episode.
You can keep up with us onsocial media, the most important
places being Instagram, tiktok,our growing Discord page.
We upload on YouTube now and weare streaming every other week
for now, but might be addingmore shows and more streams to
that very, very soon, so makesure you stay tuned.
(39:37):
You can support the show acouple of different ways.
First, head over to your podcastplayer of choice.
Leave us a five-star review,thumbs up, a+, whatever it is
over there.
Also, on YouTube, you know thedrill like share, subscribe All
of that is very beneficial aswell and share the content with
your friends.
Let people know that you'relistening, let us know that
you're listening.
All of that is so, so helpful.
We thank you all for all ofthat.
(39:59):
But, like I mentioned in thebeginning, if you want to be
part of Patreon month, if youwant to be part of the secret
discord and maybe a funPowerPoint party coming soon,
eric will let you know how youcan join and get some really fun
benefits.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah.
So all the free stuff is great,but we are starting to do a
little bit extra for thosesupporting us on Patreon and to
our patrons like Briar, stefan,t3kato, corey from the World Is
my Burrito, and RetroAV, rewind,vintage and Bridget.
They are supporting us on thatplatform and, in exchange,
getting early access behind thescenes looks to episodes like
(40:36):
this one.
We are doing things like vlogsover there, just kind of dipping
our toes and giving a littlebit more behind the scenes
access into what we do in theconvention scene, and we now
introduced Patreon month, whichmay not be the only time we do
it this year.
We might have multipleiterations of that, so you have
(40:57):
a chance to join and give ussuggestions that could end up
being an episode just like thisone.
If you can't do that, though,that is fine.
All of the other stuff is muchappreciated and we really thrive
on that support, so thank youguys very much for doing so.
With that being said, my nameis Mr Eric Almighty.
That is my co-host, phil theFilipino, and, please do not
(41:18):
forget, we release new episodesevery Wednesday on the podcast,
with bonus content on platformslike TikTok and Twitch, and all
you gotta do is wait for it.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
So I heard you're looking for a go-to source for
entertainment.
Wait for it.
Gaming, wait for it.
Anime PLUS, ultra.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Mr Eric Almighty and Phil the Filipino.
Yeah, they've got you covered,and all you gotta do is wait for
(42:01):
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