February 9, 2025 • 30 mins
The episode focuses on the name of the Lord, particularly revealing that 'Jesus' is originally 'Yeshua,' meaning 'Salvation from Yahweh.' Listeners are invited to explore the significance of names in scripture, the cultural transitions of linguistic changes, and the deeper meanings and connections to faith that arise from understanding Christ's true name.
• Exploring Romans 1:1-7
• The meaning of 'Yeshua'
• The journey from Hebrew to English
• Understanding the connection of Yeshua to Yahweh
• The importance of God's name today
• Names of the disciples and their significance
• A call to reclaim the proper name of Christ
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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And now here's Lenny.
Lenny (00:22):
Welcome back to the podcast, everyone.
Melissa (00:25):
Hey, welcome back.
Lenny (00:27):
This week we're going to be talking about the name of the
Lord For his name's sake, andthere is actually a lot to talk
about when it comes to the nameof our Lord, and we're just
going to be scratching thesurface and I think you're going
to be blown away at some ofthis stuff.
Melissa (00:43):
Yeah, you and I were saying how we couldn't believe
how much there was.
Lenny (00:47):
We're continuing our study on Romans Verses.
We're looking at is Romans,chapter 1, verses 1 through 7.
Would you like to read those,melissa?
Melissa (00:56):
I would thank you, Paul , a servant of Christ.
Jesus called to be an apostleset apart for the gospel of God,
which he promised beforehandthrough his prophets in the holy
scriptures concerning his Son,who was descended from David
according to the flesh and wasdeclared to be the Son of God in
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power according to the spiritof holiness, by his resurrection
from the dead.
Jesus Christ, our Lord, throughwhom we have received grace and
apostleship to bring about theobedience of faith, for the sake
of his name, among all thenations, including you, who are
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called to belong to Jesus Christ, to all those in Rome who are
loved by God and called to besaints.
Grace to you and peace from God, our Father and the Lord Jesus
Christ.
Lenny (01:54):
Paul was bringing about the obedience of faith for the
sake of his name, and he'sreferring to Christ Yeshua.
The obedience of faith was forthe sake of his name, so the
word name here is the Greek wordanima.
It means name, rank orpersonality.
It could mean any three ofthose things, or maybe all of
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them.
It depends on the context.
And so, regarding the contextof what we're reading in the
name, I wanted to point out thatthe name itself contains
context.
The name itself containspersonality.
It contains ranking.
So first we're going to talkabout the name Jesus.
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When I say the name Jesus, whatI actually mean is we're going
to end up talking about hisHebrew name, yeshua.
We'll start out with Matthew,chapter 1, verse 21.
You want to read that, melissa?
Melissa (02:53):
She will bear a son, and you shall call his name
Yeshua, for he will save hispeople from their sins.
Lenny (03:02):
So we didn't read the entire context, but if you read
Matthew 1, 1 through 16, we'retold that Yeshua was born Hebrew
.
He was from Hebrew descentthrough the tribe of Judah and
he was given a Hebrew name byhis Hebrew parents.
Melissa (03:16):
Yes.
Lenny (03:17):
And Yeshua the name actually means in Hebrew,
because Hebrew names havemeaning Yeshua means Yahweh's
salvation, salvation from Yahweh.
Melissa (03:30):
Pretty fitting for Christ.
Lenny (03:32):
So that meaning came with his name.
His Hebrew names meantsomething, so his name actually
had a meaning.
Melissa (03:39):
Yeah, makes you wonder why they changed it.
Lenny (03:43):
Well, yeshua is a transliteration of his Hebrew
name into English.
So if we were to take hisHebrew name and just put it into
English directly like atransliteration would be just
like literally changing it fromHebrew to English.
It would be Yeshua or somethingalong those lines.
Maybe some people say it alittle bit different Yeshua,
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yeshua.
You know it could be a slightlydifferent version of it, but
it's going to be far closer thanJesus, right?
Yeah, the apostles would haveknown him by his Hebrew name.
So when we say Yeshua, we'reessentially saying his Hebrew
name.
Melissa (04:21):
Okay.
Lenny (04:22):
So transliteration is basically a conversion from one
text to another.
Transliteration from hebrew toenglish that means that's his
name.
So in greek, which would be theoriginal greek text of our new
testament, it was transliteratedto yesus.
Fascinating, that would havebeen the greek way of saying
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Yeshua, yesus.
We're not Greek, so we probablywould not say that Wouldn't
make a lot of sense if you'renot Greek, to say Yesus Agreed.
And then the word Yesus didn'teven exist in Greek until they
translated the name Yeshua intoGreek.
That would have been, from whatI understand, the first
appearance of that word in Greek, because it was a Hebrew name.
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In the 17th century a Jreplaced the I to make Jesus.
So in the King James Version ifyou have the 1611 King James
Version it says Jesus A littlebit.
After that, at some point theyput a J in front of instead of
an I.
They actually just changed theword.
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So if you were to go back 400years, which isn't really that
long- it really isn't in thescope of history.
400 years ago, you would havesaid I love jesus and people
would have been looking at youlike what are you talking about?
That's crazy and now we look atpeople like they're crazy.
If you were to say yesus,people would be looking at you
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like what are you spanish?
because it sounds like jesusexactly which is, you know, very
much like the sound of jesus,except they put a j in front of
it.
Wow, so jesus isn't spanish no,he's Hebrew.
And Yeshua sounds a lot morefitting when you're talking
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about a Hebrew guy.
Sure does.
If I was Greek, maybe it wouldmake more sense saying Jesus.
It's just fascinating becausewe're kind of blending Spanish
Jesus with a Greek Jesus with aJ in front of it.
I mean it's kind ofmind-blowing.
Melissa (06:26):
Wow, I never would have imagined that this wasn't his
Hebrew name.
I remember the first time weheard it.
The first time we heardsomebody say Yeshua, it scared
me a little bit, thinking theywere talking about a different
God.
At first we started out likingtheir teaching.
So we're listening a littlemore.
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Then they said they calledjesus yeshua and it was like a
red flag in my mind yeah but wehad to, of course, look for
ourselves.
See why is he doing this?
Lenny (06:55):
yeah, a friend of mine spoke that way.
The friend of mine had reachedout.
He was a new friend at the timeand he was using words like
that Yahweh and Yeshua.
At first, like you said, I waslike is this guy into some kind
of weird religion?
Yeah, what is this?
But I knew from the contextwhat he was talking about and it
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didn't cause me to stumble muchbecause I just became
interested in it and wanted tolook it up eventually.
And when I looked it up, I waslike hmm, so for some people,
just using the word is going tocause some interest.
Sometimes maybe it won't.
We're in a society that knowshim by Jesus.
You know Jesus is our Lord.
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Right, that's fine.
I'm not going to lose sleepover that.
Melissa (07:41):
No.
Lenny (07:41):
But I get satisfaction knowing that he has a meaningful
name.
Yes, that just means somethingto me.
You can't really unsee it.
Yeah, so it's now.
Every time you say Jesus,you're thinking Yeshua.
Even if you say it, I'm not madat myself, I'm just like
whatever.
You know, I don't want to causeanybody to stumble.
It's also interesting to learn.
Melissa (08:01):
Yeah.
Lenny (08:02):
I did find on Reddit that people get pretty upset about
it, though I was shocked.
I was like man.
I know that I've beenpersecuted for grace.
I've been persecuted forpreterism, you name it.
People are just attacking youfor this and that, but I didn't
expect people to be fightingabout that.
Melissa (08:20):
They did not like you saying Yeshua.
Lenny (08:22):
I didn't say it in this case.
They did not like you sayingYeshua.
I didn't say it in this case.
I was watching other peoplebeing nice, actually just saying
this is what I call thembecause this is his Hebrew name.
And oh, they just let him haveit.
That's the way forums are.
That's just the way it is.
If you don't want to havepeople yelling at you, don't
chime in in a comment section ona forum somewhere.
Melissa (08:44):
That's just incredible how today is the reverse of 400
years ago yeah where, if you sayyeshua today, people look at
you cross-eyed and yeah, wonderif you're like a jehovah's
witness I'm gonna say thereformers.
Lenny (08:59):
You know, like luther was mostly latin, so he probably
would have known him as yesushmm, but jesus, jesus, you know,
people enunciate as jesus,nobody would have known what
you're talking about I neverwould have imagined I might have
guessed they'd be like wherethe heck did you come up with
that?
Let's talk about how yeshuarelates to yahweh yes, let's see
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if we can make some connectionsbetween those names.
We already know yeshua meansyahweh's salvation names.
We already know Yeshua meansYahweh's salvation, or salvation
from Yahweh.
I'm going to make a boldstatement here.
I'm going to say Yeshua isYahweh.
You sure that's pretty bold.
And I'm going to prove that thescriptures teach us the same
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thing.
Melissa (09:44):
Let's have it, so we go ahead and read Romans 10 13.
Lenny (09:47):
And these are all from the ESV Bible translation.
Melissa (09:51):
For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be
saved.
Lenny (09:56):
The word Lord here would have been pulled from Joel, from
the Old Testament.
This is what Paul is quotingand if you read Joel, yahweh was
the word Lord.
So when Paul says this, he'squoting Joel.
So what we could actually saythis passage says is everyone
who calls on the name of Yahwehwill be saved.
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And then another place.
Melissa (10:21):
Paul writes and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ
is Lord, to the glory of Godthe Father.
Lenny (10:30):
And that was Philippians 2.11.
And we could better translatethis passage to say Christ
Yeshua is Yahweh when we followthe logic and every tongue
confess that Christ Yeshua isYahweh.
To the glory of God, the Father, who is Yahweh?
Melissa (10:48):
Well, I already want to start calling him Yeshua.
Lenny (10:51):
It's pretty interesting, isn't it?
Melissa (10:53):
Right there, it's just like whoa.
Lenny (10:55):
Christ Yeshua is Yahweh Paul's telling us this in
Philippians.
Melissa (10:59):
If we study the language, he deserves to be
called by the name the Fathergave him.
Lenny (11:03):
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
In light of the Trinity, thisis a mystery.
Our triune God is three personsand one being Father, son,
spirit.
Yeshua was Yahweh in the flesh.
Melissa (11:16):
Yes.
Then we read in Philippians 2.9, Therefore, god has highly
exalted him and bestowed on himthe name that is above every
name.
Lenny (11:29):
So Yahweh has exalted Yeshua and bestowed on him the
name that is above every name.
And what name is that?
Melissa (11:40):
It's not Jesus, it's Yeshua.
Lenny (11:43):
Actually the name above every name is Yahweh.
Oh, yes, I would have said thesame thing.
I was kind of a trick question.
Oh, you did trick me.
Melissa (11:50):
It was a little tricky there.
Lenny (11:51):
But no, what he's actually saying is that Yahweh
has highly exalted him andbestowed on Yeshua the name that
is above every name.
Melissa (12:01):
Which is, yahweh, which is?
Lenny (12:03):
Yahweh.
Yeshua was the God of Israel.
He was Yahweh is what this issaying.
And on top of that, theTetragrammaton is used in our
Bible almost 7,000 times.
It's YHWH, yad, he, vav, he.
That Tetragrammaton is actuallyfound in Yeshua's name.
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Amazing, if you look atYeshua's name in Hebrew, the
Tetragrammaton is in his name.
So that's why he can say thathe's bestowed upon him the name
that is above every name,because he literally did bestow
his name upon him, but he alsobestowed his character upon him.
He also displayed his standingupon him as Lord.
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All these things.
When we go back to thatdefinition, anima, it was name,
rank or personality.
All of those things were givento Christ by Yahweh.
Melissa (13:01):
I see where you went with that.
Lenny (13:03):
So God's name is actually in his name, Like I said
earlier, the TetragrammatonYH-H-W-H.
It's used almost 7,000 times inour scripture, so don't you
think that maybe God wants us toknow his name?
Melissa (13:19):
Uh yeah.
Lenny (13:20):
Kind of seems that way.
Melissa (13:21):
Yeah.
Lenny (13:23):
And we'll get more into that in a little bit.
Melissa (13:25):
I just gotta say I'm so fired up at this.
We just have to call him by hisgiven name.
We just have to.
We have to bring it back.
Lenny (13:34):
I think we should make a commandment out of it that
people have to follow to keepfellowship.
If you want to be a discipleand prove that you love God, you
will use his real name.
Just kidding guys.
Melissa (13:47):
Now you made something crusty out of that.
Lenny (13:49):
Somebody's probably going to record that and publish it.
Melissa (13:50):
Waking up to grace said this.
I'm just saying I think it'sworth the struggle to bring that
name back.
Lenny (13:57):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, john .
Chapter 1, 1 through 4.
Melissa (14:02):
In the beginning was the Word In the Word was with
God and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning withGod.
All things were made throughhim and without him was not
anything made.
That was made In him was life,and the life was the light of
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men.
Lenny (14:23):
I think that sums up everything we talked about
pretty well.
Melissa (14:27):
I would have to agree.
Lenny (14:29):
I think it's also worth mentioning Jesus's last name.
Do you know what Jesus's lastname is?
Melissa?
Melissa (14:34):
Well, of course everybody does, don't they?
It's Christ.
Lenny (14:40):
Nice.
Melissa (14:41):
Mr Jesus Christ.
Lenny (14:43):
Yeah, it's funny because I think a lot of, actually a lot
of people would answer it thatway I've heard it said yeah so I
think it's worth mentioningthat christ is not in fact,
jesus's last name.
Christ actually comes from thegreek word christos, or you have
to do like a some kind of like,almost like a tongue roll
christos, christos I can't do it.
Melissa (15:05):
Christos did I do it don't, and it means anointed.
Lenny (15:11):
Anointed is a term applied to the priests who are
anointed with the holy oil,particularly the high priests,
and it's written in Hebrews thatYeshua is our great high priest
, surpassing all by hisresurrection.
So next we'll talk a little bitabout Yahweh.
It's my understanding that theTetragrammaton is often
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displayed as YHVH.
I've seen it that way, writtenthat way and said that way.
I'm like what are they talkingabout?
It's YHWH.
It gets you confused.
You're like what did I get itwrong?
I see something wrong.
I write it wrong.
In English it's a W because theEnglish adds the W sound
evidently Yod-hey, vav-hey.
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I mean you look at that vav, itactually kind of looks like a W
.
It's either a V or a W, so bothare true.
It's just a translational thing.
Melissa (16:04):
So you can write either one and you're correct.
Lenny (16:09):
If you're correct.
If you're English, though, youwould write the W Otherwise
you'll be out of fellowship.
Melissa (16:12):
That's right.
We talked about that.
Lenny (16:15):
So English.
So in the first temple period,at least until the Babylon exile
in 586 BC, the divine nameYahweh was regularly pronounced
in daily life.
But by the 3rd century BCbefore the cross, although the
Tetragrammaton was pronounced bypriests in certain temple
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liturgies, jews avoided its use,employing instead many other
substitutes.
When reading or recitingscripture, the custom was to
substitute Adonai, which meansLord.
It's like a general term, it'slike saying God.
This would have been before theministry of Christ Yeshua and
after the destruction of thefirst temple that they began
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adopting this concept of notusing God's holy name.
This concept was not taught bythe Lord, it was error.
Our English translations havefollowed this train of thought
and covered it up.
Sadly, in most English versionsLord is spelled with four
capital letters when it standsfor the name of Yahweh.
This makes it at least easy torecognize.
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They didn't altogether discardit, but the reader has to read
the preface or the preface topay attention.
Melissa (17:30):
Be paying attention to the capital letters, the italics
.
Lenny (17:34):
It's actually interesting reading the little preface part
.
I don't know how you say thatin English preface or preface.
Melissa (17:41):
I've always called it preface, but you sound really
fancy when you say preface.
Lenny (17:45):
Case in point, God has a name and it's not God.
So when you say OMG, are youactually using God's name in
vain?
Well, technically, you mightstill be in fellowship, guys.
Melissa (17:59):
You're really going with this one.
Lenny (18:01):
Again, I think it's so important that we use his actual
name, yahweh, because thatwould differentiate us from all
the other religions that have agod well, there's all the other
religions that have gods, yeah,the general god, the universe,
all these things that peoplemake up, but then there was also
the divine council the godsthat were under god, and that's
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a topic that we'll be coveringeventually because it's very
interesting.
But yes yahweh needed to beknown as the god of all the gods
, the god that created thosegods yahweh is the greatest god
yeah, and that's a topic that'sgoing to blow a lot of people's
minds.
Just what are you guys?
Melissa (18:38):
some weird religion I know again, it's all in
scripture and we'll show you.
But I know I've met a lot ofpeople over the years.
It surprised me when it firsthappened.
I was very shaken up by it, butit's happened a lot more since
then that I've met with somebodyand I've started talking about
God, and I think that they'retalking about the same God as me
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and then all of a sudden theysay something where it's
revealed that they're talkingabout buddha or the universe,
and you're not at all on thesame page.
So, yeah, if we could just clearup that we're talking about the
god, that's the greatest god,right right off the bat, then we
know where somebody's at youcould actually use god's name
and it would mean something.
Lenny (19:19):
Then, when you you say God, as you just pointed out, it
doesn't mean anything.
Melissa (19:23):
It doesn't mean anything.
It means nothing.
Oh, they believe in God.
Lenny (19:26):
So what.
Melissa (19:27):
They just mean right, they literally just believe in
the universe so that there'ssome kind of creator.
It has nothing to do withChristianity.
Lenny (19:35):
But if people were saying Yahweh, now you know they're at
least either Jewish orChristian, right, you're getting
closer Right, so I'll let youread this next part, if you can
handle it.
It's a bit confusing, butlisten carefully.
This is actually pretty cool.
Melissa (19:53):
I'm up for the challenge.
Until the early Middle Ages,hebrew was written without
vowels.
Hebrew was written withoutvowels by the 6th century AD.
A system of vowel signs wasdeveloped by Jewish scholars
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known as the Masorites.
They superimposed the vowelsigns of the word Adonai upon
the four consonants of God'sname to help the reader.
Help the reader inpronunciation.
In AD 1518, galatnus, notrealizing that the Masorites had
placed the vowel signs ofanother word with the consonants
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YHWH, fused the vowels ofAdonai with the consonants of
the divine name and thus gavethe church Jehovah a word which
has no meaning in Hebrew.
Lenny (20:51):
So essentially Jehovah.
The word Jehovah is sort of aman-made word salad.
It's not even a real word.
What Somebody's homebrew Wow.
Melissa (21:01):
I always wondered where's home brew.
Wow, I always wondered wherethat came from.
Lenny (21:06):
Yeah.
Melissa (21:07):
Now, I know.
Lenny (21:08):
Yeah, so we can just discard that when we see it.
Melissa (21:11):
I don't even like salad , so that goes fine with me.
Lenny (21:14):
In the Greek version of the Old Testament known as the
Septuagint, the word Kyrios,which means Lord again kind of a
general meaning it could haveis used to represent the
personal name of the God ofIsrael, yahweh.
This fact brings up all kindsof question, debate, speculation
and even false doctrines.
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But as we have seen so far,yahweh is found in our New
Testament based on context,based on quotations from the Old
Testament and based on the factthat Yahweh is in the name of
Yeshua.
If we look at context, we knowthat the apostles recognized
their Lord as Yahweh.
Jesus is not the real name ofour Lord in English or in any
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language that I am aware of.
That should at least raise aneyebrow.
Hebrew names had meaning, I amaware of.
That should at least raise aneyebrow.
Hebrew names had meaning and,as we read the definition of
name earlier, the name, rank andpersonality of our Lord is all
found in his Hebrew name.
We don't find it anywhere inthe word Jesus.
That is why I enjoy callingYahweh by his real Hebrew name
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and Yeshua.
I often use Yeshua.
It means something to me.
I'm not afraid to be odd inthis way.
I don't stress about it though.
I just like to do it.
Sometimes I still say Jesus.
Sometimes it just kind ofcatches on you because you read
in the scripture and you startsaying it that way.
Or you talk with certain peoplein a group that are saying it
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and you start saying it that way.
It's fine.
Our society calls him Jesus.
That may not change anytimesoon.
We're Gentiles, so maybe that'sjust what happens when Gentiles
do what they do.
It's okay.
I'm not going to attack peoplefor saying it.
You don't have to feel bad forsaying it.
It's hard to know exactly howto handle this error in our
society today.
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It's certainly not the mostimportant aspect of our faith,
but it is one that deserves alot of attention.
As I was saying, there'sactually an incredible amount to
say on this topic alone.
But just in names in scripturealtogether, when you get into
Elohim and the words that areused for the sons of God and
it's really fun stuff to look atit goes really deep.
Melissa (23:22):
It sure does, and I just wanted to say one thing on
the note of it being hard toknow how to handle what to call
Christ.
I think I have the answer.
Pray about it.
Lenny (23:35):
Very good.
Melissa (23:37):
That's what I've been doing.
I know you started earlier thanme with the name.
Lenny (23:41):
That's so cool to be able to say that, isn't it?
Melissa (23:43):
It's always the answer, yeah.
Lenny (23:44):
Hey, I think I got an answer to that problem.
Melissa (23:47):
It's so true.
Pray about it, that's right.
Lenny (23:50):
You got me again.
Melissa (23:54):
You started calling Christ Yeshua before I did and
it sounded funny to me at first,but I started getting used to
it.
Lenny (24:01):
I saw you giggling at me, smirking.
Melissa (24:05):
But I started getting used to it and the more I
learned about that meaning, themore it weighed on me.
So I'm taking the slow andsteady approach.
Yeah, slowly transitioning overyeah, because I do think that
he's worthy of his God-givenname.
Yeah, slowly transitioning overyeah, because I do think that
he's worthy of his God givenname.
Lenny (24:21):
Yeah, I agree, amen to that.
Melissa (24:24):
So that's, my soapbox.
Lenny (24:26):
So I got some interesting information about names
regarding some of the disciples.
So I wanted to look at some ofthese disciples names and share
them with you guys after I sawthis, because I was shocked to
learn that many of them also hadYahweh in their names.
It might help to explain howChrist Yeshua was able to blend
in while having such a powerfulname in his culture, because you
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think, with all this stuff inhis name, wouldn't everybody
have just been like what's yourdeal, dude?
Right Before he declaredhimself the son of God, he
practically was named thatalready.
Yeah, I mean, come come on, it'skind of crazy it's not a
coincidence I mean the gospel's,all, all throughout the
scriptures and the people thatwere supposed to have seen it.
Very few of them saw it.
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There's only a remnant god hadto open their eyes but that's by
design yeah, you know, when Iwas thinking about yahweh yeshua
, I remember talking to you inthe kitchen about it the one day
I'm just like, well, what aboutthese other names?
Melissa (25:21):
Matthew, mark yeah.
Lenny (25:22):
I got to look into this and just see what some of those,
some of the disciples at leasta handful of them, all the
disciples had names that meantsomething, but I picked out ones
that I found that like wow,this had to do with Yahweh.
This is crazy.
So first one on the list, youcan guess Peter Pebble.
A lot of people think he's therock.
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Sorry, peter.
Peter's original name was Simon, but he was given the
additional name Cephas or Peterby Yeshua.
The name Cephas with a Greekname, petros, both means stone
or I've also heard, pebble.
So Yeshua pretty much said youare a stone or pebble, and on
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this rock meaning himself, Iwill build my church.
That statement's going to upsetsome people when you say that,
though, especially Catholics.
Melissa (26:12):
But really for Christ to have said that to Peter.
I think that that it's actuallya very honorable thing.
We giggle, but very honorablebecause it's like he's
mentioning the first stonethat's going to be in the church
, which is him.
Lenny (26:27):
He's essentially saying that you are the same as me in a
way.
I'm just the big rock andyou're the stone.
We're all stones.
None of us are any different.
We would be stones and pebblescompared to Christ.
So it's no offense to Peter.
He's just not what a lot ofpeople made him out to be.
But he was an apostle, he was achosen messenger.
Absolutely the church was builton the foundation of the
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prophets and the apostles.
Christ was the rock.
He's what they prophesied about.
He's what they were sent forthwith the message of.
He's the cornerstone.
Yeah, absolutely so.
Simon is actually Shimon.
This sounds oddly close to asound Michael Jackson used in
some of his songs.
Both Simon Peter and Simon theZealot come from the Hebrew name
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Shimon, and that means he hasheard.
In Jewish culture, the one whohad heard was understood to be
God, so God was the one whoheard, and their name meant he
has heard.
Melissa (27:24):
The one who has heard was understood to be God, so he
is God.
Lenny (27:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly so.
Melissa (27:32):
God has heard Wow.
Lenny (27:34):
And I was reading that it could have been something to do
with a difficult pregnancy whenthey were like oh, he's been
born, god has heard.
Wow.
And I was reading that it couldhave been something to do with
a difficult pregnancy.
Oh, where they were like oh,he's been born.
God has heard.
Okay yeah, something alongthose lines.
Melissa (27:46):
God heard their prayers .
Lenny (27:48):
Yeah, and then we have Jacobas the disciple.
We call James Jacobas after thepatriarch Jacob.
The meaning of the name is heel, or he who supplants.
It seems somewhat negative, butthe name was evidently popular
due to it being the name of thefamous grandson of Abraham.
Melissa (28:06):
Absolutely, that makes sense.
Lenny (28:08):
Yeah, then you have Ioannes.
Melissa (28:10):
These names are way cooler.
Lenny (28:12):
They're cool names.
The name John that we read inthe Gospels is an English
approximation of the Hebrew nameYoanes, and Yoanes means Yahweh
is gracious.
Melissa (28:27):
Okay.
Lenny (28:28):
Matthias, the tax collector turned disciple that
we know as Matthew.
His Hebrew name is Matthias,meaning gift of Yahweh.
Melissa (28:39):
Incredible.
Lenny (28:40):
That's pretty cool.
The Hebrew names had a lot ofmeaning.
Melissa (28:43):
When they say they had meaning.
Yeah, when you go back and lookyou're like yep, they
definitely had meaning.
Lenny (28:49):
Yeah.
Melissa (28:50):
Not at all like today.
Lenny (28:52):
But out of all these cool names, what could top Yahweh's
salvation, or salvation fromYahweh?
That's what Christ was, that'swho Christ was.
His name represented him andYahweh was in his name.
How cool is that?
Yahweh's salvation?
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So next time you pray in thename of the Lord, you can be
thinking about this.
It's pretty cool stuff.
Melissa (29:23):
It's really cool.
I just get so excited about allthere is to learn in scripture.
It just goes deeper and deeperand deeper.
It's just it gets you fired up.
You could definitely wake up tograce every single day for the
rest of your life.
Lenny (29:38):
I agree.
Melissa (29:39):
I think we should do that High five to that In the
name of the.
Lenny (29:41):
Lord, in the name of the Lord.
That's what we got for thisweek, guys.
I'm looking forward to seeingyou next week for some more.
We're already in the works ofour next topic.
We know what it is, but we'renot telling.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
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And now here's Lenny.
Lenny (00:22):
Welcome back to the podcast, everyone.
Melissa (00:25):
Hey, welcome back.
Lenny (00:27):
This week we're going to be talking about the name of the
Lord For his name's sake, andthere is actually a lot to talk
about when it comes to the nameof our Lord, and we're just
going to be scratching thesurface and I think you're going
to be blown away at some ofthis stuff.
Melissa (00:43):
Yeah, you and I were saying how we couldn't believe
how much there was.
Lenny (00:47):
We're continuing our study on Romans Verses.
We're looking at is Romans,chapter 1, verses 1 through 7.
Would you like to read those,melissa?
Melissa (00:56):
I would thank you, Paul , a servant of Christ.
Jesus called to be an apostleset apart for the gospel of God,
which he promised beforehandthrough his prophets in the holy
scriptures concerning his Son,who was descended from David
according to the flesh and wasdeclared to be the Son of God in
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power according to the spiritof holiness, by his resurrection
from the dead.
Jesus Christ, our Lord, throughwhom we have received grace and
apostleship to bring about theobedience of faith, for the sake
of his name, among all thenations, including you, who are
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called to belong to Jesus Christ, to all those in Rome who are
loved by God and called to besaints.
Grace to you and peace from God, our Father and the Lord Jesus
Christ.
Lenny (01:54):
Paul was bringing about the obedience of faith for the
sake of his name, and he'sreferring to Christ Yeshua.
The obedience of faith was forthe sake of his name, so the
word name here is the Greek wordanima.
It means name, rank orpersonality.
It could mean any three ofthose things, or maybe all of
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them.
It depends on the context.
And so, regarding the contextof what we're reading in the
name, I wanted to point out thatthe name itself contains
context.
The name itself containspersonality.
It contains ranking.
So first we're going to talkabout the name Jesus.
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When I say the name Jesus, whatI actually mean is we're going
to end up talking about hisHebrew name, yeshua.
We'll start out with Matthew,chapter 1, verse 21.
You want to read that, melissa?
Melissa (02:53):
She will bear a son, and you shall call his name
Yeshua, for he will save hispeople from their sins.
Lenny (03:02):
So we didn't read the entire context, but if you read
Matthew 1, 1 through 16, we'retold that Yeshua was born Hebrew
.
He was from Hebrew descentthrough the tribe of Judah and
he was given a Hebrew name byhis Hebrew parents.
Melissa (03:16):
Yes.
Lenny (03:17):
And Yeshua the name actually means in Hebrew,
because Hebrew names havemeaning Yeshua means Yahweh's
salvation, salvation from Yahweh.
Melissa (03:30):
Pretty fitting for Christ.
Lenny (03:32):
So that meaning came with his name.
His Hebrew names meantsomething, so his name actually
had a meaning.
Melissa (03:39):
Yeah, makes you wonder why they changed it.
Lenny (03:43):
Well, yeshua is a transliteration of his Hebrew
name into English.
So if we were to take hisHebrew name and just put it into
English directly like atransliteration would be just
like literally changing it fromHebrew to English.
It would be Yeshua or somethingalong those lines.
Maybe some people say it alittle bit different Yeshua,
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yeshua.
You know it could be a slightlydifferent version of it, but
it's going to be far closer thanJesus, right?
Yeah, the apostles would haveknown him by his Hebrew name.
So when we say Yeshua, we'reessentially saying his Hebrew
name.
Melissa (04:21):
Okay.
Lenny (04:22):
So transliteration is basically a conversion from one
text to another.
Transliteration from hebrew toenglish that means that's his
name.
So in greek, which would be theoriginal greek text of our new
testament, it was transliteratedto yesus.
Fascinating, that would havebeen the greek way of saying
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Yeshua, yesus.
We're not Greek, so we probablywould not say that Wouldn't
make a lot of sense if you'renot Greek, to say Yesus Agreed.
And then the word Yesus didn'teven exist in Greek until they
translated the name Yeshua intoGreek.
That would have been, from whatI understand, the first
appearance of that word in Greek, because it was a Hebrew name.
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In the 17th century a Jreplaced the I to make Jesus.
So in the King James Version ifyou have the 1611 King James
Version it says Jesus A littlebit.
After that, at some point theyput a J in front of instead of
an I.
They actually just changed theword.
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So if you were to go back 400years, which isn't really that
long- it really isn't in thescope of history.
400 years ago, you would havesaid I love jesus and people
would have been looking at youlike what are you talking about?
That's crazy and now we look atpeople like they're crazy.
If you were to say yesus,people would be looking at you
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like what are you spanish?
because it sounds like jesusexactly which is, you know, very
much like the sound of jesus,except they put a j in front of
it.
Wow, so jesus isn't spanish no,he's Hebrew.
And Yeshua sounds a lot morefitting when you're talking
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about a Hebrew guy.
Sure does.
If I was Greek, maybe it wouldmake more sense saying Jesus.
It's just fascinating becausewe're kind of blending Spanish
Jesus with a Greek Jesus with aJ in front of it.
I mean it's kind ofmind-blowing.
Melissa (06:26):
Wow, I never would have imagined that this wasn't his
Hebrew name.
I remember the first time weheard it.
The first time we heardsomebody say Yeshua, it scared
me a little bit, thinking theywere talking about a different
God.
At first we started out likingtheir teaching.
So we're listening a littlemore.
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Then they said they calledjesus yeshua and it was like a
red flag in my mind yeah but wehad to, of course, look for
ourselves.
See why is he doing this?
Lenny (06:55):
yeah, a friend of mine spoke that way.
The friend of mine had reachedout.
He was a new friend at the timeand he was using words like
that Yahweh and Yeshua.
At first, like you said, I waslike is this guy into some kind
of weird religion?
Yeah, what is this?
But I knew from the contextwhat he was talking about and it
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didn't cause me to stumble muchbecause I just became
interested in it and wanted tolook it up eventually.
And when I looked it up, I waslike hmm, so for some people,
just using the word is going tocause some interest.
Sometimes maybe it won't.
We're in a society that knowshim by Jesus.
You know Jesus is our Lord.
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Right, that's fine.
I'm not going to lose sleepover that.
Melissa (07:41):
No.
Lenny (07:41):
But I get satisfaction knowing that he has a meaningful
name.
Yes, that just means somethingto me.
You can't really unsee it.
Yeah, so it's now.
Every time you say Jesus,you're thinking Yeshua.
Even if you say it, I'm not madat myself, I'm just like
whatever.
You know, I don't want to causeanybody to stumble.
It's also interesting to learn.
Melissa (08:01):
Yeah.
Lenny (08:02):
I did find on Reddit that people get pretty upset about
it, though I was shocked.
I was like man.
I know that I've beenpersecuted for grace.
I've been persecuted forpreterism, you name it.
People are just attacking youfor this and that, but I didn't
expect people to be fightingabout that.
Melissa (08:20):
They did not like you saying Yeshua.
Lenny (08:22):
I didn't say it in this case.
They did not like you sayingYeshua.
I didn't say it in this case.
I was watching other peoplebeing nice, actually just saying
this is what I call thembecause this is his Hebrew name.
And oh, they just let him haveit.
That's the way forums are.
That's just the way it is.
If you don't want to havepeople yelling at you, don't
chime in in a comment section ona forum somewhere.
Melissa (08:44):
That's just incredible how today is the reverse of 400
years ago yeah where, if you sayyeshua today, people look at
you cross-eyed and yeah, wonderif you're like a jehovah's
witness I'm gonna say thereformers.
Lenny (08:59):
You know, like luther was mostly latin, so he probably
would have known him as yesushmm, but jesus, jesus, you know,
people enunciate as jesus,nobody would have known what
you're talking about I neverwould have imagined I might have
guessed they'd be like wherethe heck did you come up with
that?
Let's talk about how yeshuarelates to yahweh yes, let's see
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if we can make some connectionsbetween those names.
We already know yeshua meansyahweh's salvation names.
We already know Yeshua meansYahweh's salvation, or salvation
from Yahweh.
I'm going to make a boldstatement here.
I'm going to say Yeshua isYahweh.
You sure that's pretty bold.
And I'm going to prove that thescriptures teach us the same
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thing.
Melissa (09:44):
Let's have it, so we go ahead and read Romans 10 13.
Lenny (09:47):
And these are all from the ESV Bible translation.
Melissa (09:51):
For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be
saved.
Lenny (09:56):
The word Lord here would have been pulled from Joel, from
the Old Testament.
This is what Paul is quotingand if you read Joel, yahweh was
the word Lord.
So when Paul says this, he'squoting Joel.
So what we could actually saythis passage says is everyone
who calls on the name of Yahwehwill be saved.
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And then another place.
Melissa (10:21):
Paul writes and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ
is Lord, to the glory of Godthe Father.
Lenny (10:30):
And that was Philippians 2.11.
And we could better translatethis passage to say Christ
Yeshua is Yahweh when we followthe logic and every tongue
confess that Christ Yeshua isYahweh.
To the glory of God, the Father, who is Yahweh?
Melissa (10:48):
Well, I already want to start calling him Yeshua.
Lenny (10:51):
It's pretty interesting, isn't it?
Melissa (10:53):
Right there, it's just like whoa.
Lenny (10:55):
Christ Yeshua is Yahweh Paul's telling us this in
Philippians.
Melissa (10:59):
If we study the language, he deserves to be
called by the name the Fathergave him.
Lenny (11:03):
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
In light of the Trinity, thisis a mystery.
Our triune God is three personsand one being Father, son,
spirit.
Yeshua was Yahweh in the flesh.
Melissa (11:16):
Yes.
Then we read in Philippians 2.9, Therefore, god has highly
exalted him and bestowed on himthe name that is above every
name.
Lenny (11:29):
So Yahweh has exalted Yeshua and bestowed on him the
name that is above every name.
And what name is that?
Melissa (11:40):
It's not Jesus, it's Yeshua.
Lenny (11:43):
Actually the name above every name is Yahweh.
Oh, yes, I would have said thesame thing.
I was kind of a trick question.
Oh, you did trick me.
Melissa (11:50):
It was a little tricky there.
Lenny (11:51):
But no, what he's actually saying is that Yahweh
has highly exalted him andbestowed on Yeshua the name that
is above every name.
Melissa (12:01):
Which is, yahweh, which is?
Lenny (12:03):
Yahweh.
Yeshua was the God of Israel.
He was Yahweh is what this issaying.
And on top of that, theTetragrammaton is used in our
Bible almost 7,000 times.
It's YHWH, yad, he, vav, he.
That Tetragrammaton is actuallyfound in Yeshua's name.
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Amazing, if you look atYeshua's name in Hebrew, the
Tetragrammaton is in his name.
So that's why he can say thathe's bestowed upon him the name
that is above every name,because he literally did bestow
his name upon him, but he alsobestowed his character upon him.
He also displayed his standingupon him as Lord.
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All these things.
When we go back to thatdefinition, anima, it was name,
rank or personality.
All of those things were givento Christ by Yahweh.
Melissa (13:01):
I see where you went with that.
Lenny (13:03):
So God's name is actually in his name, Like I said
earlier, the TetragrammatonYH-H-W-H.
It's used almost 7,000 times inour scripture, so don't you
think that maybe God wants us toknow his name?
Melissa (13:19):
Uh yeah.
Lenny (13:20):
Kind of seems that way.
Melissa (13:21):
Yeah.
Lenny (13:23):
And we'll get more into that in a little bit.
Melissa (13:25):
I just gotta say I'm so fired up at this.
We just have to call him by hisgiven name.
We just have to.
We have to bring it back.
Lenny (13:34):
I think we should make a commandment out of it that
people have to follow to keepfellowship.
If you want to be a discipleand prove that you love God, you
will use his real name.
Just kidding guys.
Melissa (13:47):
Now you made something crusty out of that.
Lenny (13:49):
Somebody's probably going to record that and publish it.
Melissa (13:50):
Waking up to grace said this.
I'm just saying I think it'sworth the struggle to bring that
name back.
Lenny (13:57):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, john .
Chapter 1, 1 through 4.
Melissa (14:02):
In the beginning was the Word In the Word was with
God and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning withGod.
All things were made throughhim and without him was not
anything made.
That was made In him was life,and the life was the light of
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men.
Lenny (14:23):
I think that sums up everything we talked about
pretty well.
Melissa (14:27):
I would have to agree.
Lenny (14:29):
I think it's also worth mentioning Jesus's last name.
Do you know what Jesus's lastname is?
Melissa?
Melissa (14:34):
Well, of course everybody does, don't they?
It's Christ.
Lenny (14:40):
Nice.
Melissa (14:41):
Mr Jesus Christ.
Lenny (14:43):
Yeah, it's funny because I think a lot of, actually a lot
of people would answer it thatway I've heard it said yeah so I
think it's worth mentioningthat christ is not in fact,
jesus's last name.
Christ actually comes from thegreek word christos, or you have
to do like a some kind of like,almost like a tongue roll
christos, christos I can't do it.
Melissa (15:05):
Christos did I do it don't, and it means anointed.
Lenny (15:11):
Anointed is a term applied to the priests who are
anointed with the holy oil,particularly the high priests,
and it's written in Hebrews thatYeshua is our great high priest
, surpassing all by hisresurrection.
So next we'll talk a little bitabout Yahweh.
It's my understanding that theTetragrammaton is often
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displayed as YHVH.
I've seen it that way, writtenthat way and said that way.
I'm like what are they talkingabout?
It's YHWH.
It gets you confused.
You're like what did I get itwrong?
I see something wrong.
I write it wrong.
In English it's a W because theEnglish adds the W sound
evidently Yod-hey, vav-hey.
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I mean you look at that vav, itactually kind of looks like a W
.
It's either a V or a W, so bothare true.
It's just a translational thing.
Melissa (16:04):
So you can write either one and you're correct.
Lenny (16:09):
If you're correct.
If you're English, though, youwould write the W Otherwise
you'll be out of fellowship.
Melissa (16:12):
That's right.
We talked about that.
Lenny (16:15):
So English.
So in the first temple period,at least until the Babylon exile
in 586 BC, the divine nameYahweh was regularly pronounced
in daily life.
But by the 3rd century BCbefore the cross, although the
Tetragrammaton was pronounced bypriests in certain temple
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liturgies, jews avoided its use,employing instead many other
substitutes.
When reading or recitingscripture, the custom was to
substitute Adonai, which meansLord.
It's like a general term, it'slike saying God.
This would have been before theministry of Christ Yeshua and
after the destruction of thefirst temple that they began
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adopting this concept of notusing God's holy name.
This concept was not taught bythe Lord, it was error.
Our English translations havefollowed this train of thought
and covered it up.
Sadly, in most English versionsLord is spelled with four
capital letters when it standsfor the name of Yahweh.
This makes it at least easy torecognize.
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They didn't altogether discardit, but the reader has to read
the preface or the preface topay attention.
Melissa (17:30):
Be paying attention to the capital letters, the italics
.
Lenny (17:34):
It's actually interesting reading the little preface part
.
I don't know how you say thatin English preface or preface.
Melissa (17:41):
I've always called it preface, but you sound really
fancy when you say preface.
Lenny (17:45):
Case in point, God has a name and it's not God.
So when you say OMG, are youactually using God's name in
vain?
Well, technically, you mightstill be in fellowship, guys.
Melissa (17:59):
You're really going with this one.
Lenny (18:01):
Again, I think it's so important that we use his actual
name, yahweh, because thatwould differentiate us from all
the other religions that have agod well, there's all the other
religions that have gods, yeah,the general god, the universe,
all these things that peoplemake up, but then there was also
the divine council the godsthat were under god, and that's
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a topic that we'll be coveringeventually because it's very
interesting.
But yes yahweh needed to beknown as the god of all the gods
, the god that created thosegods yahweh is the greatest god
yeah, and that's a topic that'sgoing to blow a lot of people's
minds.
Just what are you guys?
Melissa (18:38):
some weird religion I know again, it's all in
scripture and we'll show you.
But I know I've met a lot ofpeople over the years.
It surprised me when it firsthappened.
I was very shaken up by it, butit's happened a lot more since
then that I've met with somebodyand I've started talking about
God, and I think that they'retalking about the same God as me
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and then all of a sudden theysay something where it's
revealed that they're talkingabout buddha or the universe,
and you're not at all on thesame page.
So, yeah, if we could just clearup that we're talking about the
god, that's the greatest god,right right off the bat, then we
know where somebody's at youcould actually use god's name
and it would mean something.
Lenny (19:19):
Then, when you you say God, as you just pointed out, it
doesn't mean anything.
Melissa (19:23):
It doesn't mean anything.
It means nothing.
Oh, they believe in God.
Lenny (19:26):
So what.
Melissa (19:27):
They just mean right, they literally just believe in
the universe so that there'ssome kind of creator.
It has nothing to do withChristianity.
Lenny (19:35):
But if people were saying Yahweh, now you know they're at
least either Jewish orChristian, right, you're getting
closer Right, so I'll let youread this next part, if you can
handle it.
It's a bit confusing, butlisten carefully.
This is actually pretty cool.
Melissa (19:53):
I'm up for the challenge.
Until the early Middle Ages,hebrew was written without
vowels.
Hebrew was written withoutvowels by the 6th century AD.
A system of vowel signs wasdeveloped by Jewish scholars
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known as the Masorites.
They superimposed the vowelsigns of the word Adonai upon
the four consonants of God'sname to help the reader.
Help the reader inpronunciation.
In AD 1518, galatnus, notrealizing that the Masorites had
placed the vowel signs ofanother word with the consonants
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YHWH, fused the vowels ofAdonai with the consonants of
the divine name and thus gavethe church Jehovah a word which
has no meaning in Hebrew.
Lenny (20:51):
So essentially Jehovah.
The word Jehovah is sort of aman-made word salad.
It's not even a real word.
What Somebody's homebrew Wow.
Melissa (21:01):
I always wondered where's home brew.
Wow, I always wondered wherethat came from.
Lenny (21:06):
Yeah.
Melissa (21:07):
Now, I know.
Lenny (21:08):
Yeah, so we can just discard that when we see it.
Melissa (21:11):
I don't even like salad , so that goes fine with me.
Lenny (21:14):
In the Greek version of the Old Testament known as the
Septuagint, the word Kyrios,which means Lord again kind of a
general meaning it could haveis used to represent the
personal name of the God ofIsrael, yahweh.
This fact brings up all kindsof question, debate, speculation
and even false doctrines.
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But as we have seen so far,yahweh is found in our New
Testament based on context,based on quotations from the Old
Testament and based on the factthat Yahweh is in the name of
Yeshua.
If we look at context, we knowthat the apostles recognized
their Lord as Yahweh.
Jesus is not the real name ofour Lord in English or in any
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language that I am aware of.
That should at least raise aneyebrow.
Hebrew names had meaning, I amaware of.
That should at least raise aneyebrow.
Hebrew names had meaning and,as we read the definition of
name earlier, the name, rank andpersonality of our Lord is all
found in his Hebrew name.
We don't find it anywhere inthe word Jesus.
That is why I enjoy callingYahweh by his real Hebrew name
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and Yeshua.
I often use Yeshua.
It means something to me.
I'm not afraid to be odd inthis way.
I don't stress about it though.
I just like to do it.
Sometimes I still say Jesus.
Sometimes it just kind ofcatches on you because you read
in the scripture and you startsaying it that way.
Or you talk with certain peoplein a group that are saying it
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and you start saying it that way.
It's fine.
Our society calls him Jesus.
That may not change anytimesoon.
We're Gentiles, so maybe that'sjust what happens when Gentiles
do what they do.
It's okay.
I'm not going to attack peoplefor saying it.
You don't have to feel bad forsaying it.
It's hard to know exactly howto handle this error in our
society today.
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It's certainly not the mostimportant aspect of our faith,
but it is one that deserves alot of attention.
As I was saying, there'sactually an incredible amount to
say on this topic alone.
But just in names in scripturealtogether, when you get into
Elohim and the words that areused for the sons of God and
it's really fun stuff to look atit goes really deep.
Melissa (23:22):
It sure does, and I just wanted to say one thing on
the note of it being hard toknow how to handle what to call
Christ.
I think I have the answer.
Pray about it.
Lenny (23:35):
Very good.
Melissa (23:37):
That's what I've been doing.
I know you started earlier thanme with the name.
Lenny (23:41):
That's so cool to be able to say that, isn't it?
Melissa (23:43):
It's always the answer, yeah.
Lenny (23:44):
Hey, I think I got an answer to that problem.
Melissa (23:47):
It's so true.
Pray about it, that's right.
Lenny (23:50):
You got me again.
Melissa (23:54):
You started calling Christ Yeshua before I did and
it sounded funny to me at first,but I started getting used to
it.
Lenny (24:01):
I saw you giggling at me, smirking.
Melissa (24:05):
But I started getting used to it and the more I
learned about that meaning, themore it weighed on me.
So I'm taking the slow andsteady approach.
Yeah, slowly transitioning overyeah, because I do think that
he's worthy of his God-givenname.
Yeah, slowly transitioning overyeah, because I do think that
he's worthy of his God givenname.
Lenny (24:21):
Yeah, I agree, amen to that.
Melissa (24:24):
So that's, my soapbox.
Lenny (24:26):
So I got some interesting information about names
regarding some of the disciples.
So I wanted to look at some ofthese disciples names and share
them with you guys after I sawthis, because I was shocked to
learn that many of them also hadYahweh in their names.
It might help to explain howChrist Yeshua was able to blend
in while having such a powerfulname in his culture, because you
(24:47):
think, with all this stuff inhis name, wouldn't everybody
have just been like what's yourdeal, dude?
Right Before he declaredhimself the son of God, he
practically was named thatalready.
Yeah, I mean, come come on, it'skind of crazy it's not a
coincidence I mean the gospel's,all, all throughout the
scriptures and the people thatwere supposed to have seen it.
Very few of them saw it.
(25:08):
There's only a remnant god hadto open their eyes but that's by
design yeah, you know, when Iwas thinking about yahweh yeshua
, I remember talking to you inthe kitchen about it the one day
I'm just like, well, what aboutthese other names?
Melissa (25:21):
Matthew, mark yeah.
Lenny (25:22):
I got to look into this and just see what some of those,
some of the disciples at leasta handful of them, all the
disciples had names that meantsomething, but I picked out ones
that I found that like wow,this had to do with Yahweh.
This is crazy.
So first one on the list, youcan guess Peter Pebble.
A lot of people think he's therock.
(25:43):
Sorry, peter.
Peter's original name was Simon, but he was given the
additional name Cephas or Peterby Yeshua.
The name Cephas with a Greekname, petros, both means stone
or I've also heard, pebble.
So Yeshua pretty much said youare a stone or pebble, and on
(26:04):
this rock meaning himself, Iwill build my church.
That statement's going to upsetsome people when you say that,
though, especially Catholics.
Melissa (26:12):
But really for Christ to have said that to Peter.
I think that that it's actuallya very honorable thing.
We giggle, but very honorablebecause it's like he's
mentioning the first stonethat's going to be in the church
, which is him.
Lenny (26:27):
He's essentially saying that you are the same as me in a
way.
I'm just the big rock andyou're the stone.
We're all stones.
None of us are any different.
We would be stones and pebblescompared to Christ.
So it's no offense to Peter.
He's just not what a lot ofpeople made him out to be.
But he was an apostle, he was achosen messenger.
Absolutely the church was builton the foundation of the
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prophets and the apostles.
Christ was the rock.
He's what they prophesied about.
He's what they were sent forthwith the message of.
He's the cornerstone.
Yeah, absolutely so.
Simon is actually Shimon.
This sounds oddly close to asound Michael Jackson used in
some of his songs.
Both Simon Peter and Simon theZealot come from the Hebrew name
(27:12):
Shimon, and that means he hasheard.
In Jewish culture, the one whohad heard was understood to be
God, so God was the one whoheard, and their name meant he
has heard.
Melissa (27:24):
The one who has heard was understood to be God, so he
is God.
Lenny (27:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly so.
Melissa (27:32):
God has heard Wow.
Lenny (27:34):
And I was reading that it could have been something to do
with a difficult pregnancy whenthey were like oh, he's been
born, god has heard.
Wow.
And I was reading that it couldhave been something to do with
a difficult pregnancy.
Oh, where they were like oh,he's been born.
God has heard.
Okay yeah, something alongthose lines.
Melissa (27:46):
God heard their prayers .
Lenny (27:48):
Yeah, and then we have Jacobas the disciple.
We call James Jacobas after thepatriarch Jacob.
The meaning of the name is heel, or he who supplants.
It seems somewhat negative, butthe name was evidently popular
due to it being the name of thefamous grandson of Abraham.
Melissa (28:06):
Absolutely, that makes sense.
Lenny (28:08):
Yeah, then you have Ioannes.
Melissa (28:10):
These names are way cooler.
Lenny (28:12):
They're cool names.
The name John that we read inthe Gospels is an English
approximation of the Hebrew nameYoanes, and Yoanes means Yahweh
is gracious.
Melissa (28:27):
Okay.
Lenny (28:28):
Matthias, the tax collector turned disciple that
we know as Matthew.
His Hebrew name is Matthias,meaning gift of Yahweh.
Melissa (28:39):
Incredible.
Lenny (28:40):
That's pretty cool.
The Hebrew names had a lot ofmeaning.
Melissa (28:43):
When they say they had meaning.
Yeah, when you go back and lookyou're like yep, they
definitely had meaning.
Lenny (28:49):
Yeah.
Melissa (28:50):
Not at all like today.
Lenny (28:52):
But out of all these cool names, what could top Yahweh's
salvation, or salvation fromYahweh?
That's what Christ was, that'swho Christ was.
His name represented him andYahweh was in his name.
How cool is that?
Yahweh's salvation?
(29:14):
So next time you pray in thename of the Lord, you can be
thinking about this.
It's pretty cool stuff.
Melissa (29:23):
It's really cool.
I just get so excited about allthere is to learn in scripture.
It just goes deeper and deeperand deeper.
It's just it gets you fired up.
You could definitely wake up tograce every single day for the
rest of your life.
Lenny (29:38):
I agree.
Melissa (29:39):
I think we should do that High five to that In the
name of the.
Lenny (29:41):
Lord, in the name of the Lord.
That's what we got for thisweek, guys.
I'm looking forward to seeingyou next week for some more.
We're already in the works ofour next topic.
We know what it is, but we'renot telling.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
So we'll see you next week.
Bye-bye, have a good day outthere, guys.
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