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Jennie Flaming (00:00):
Jennie, welcome
to the Washington State hiking
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podcast. I'm your host. JennieThwing Flaming,
Craig Romano (00:10):
and I'm your co
host, Craig Romano, Craig
Jennie Flaming (00:12):
and I are happy
to have you here. We provide
practical and timely, seasonalhiking advice for hikers, trail
runners and potential hikers andtrail runners of all skill and
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Hey, Craig, how you
Craig Romano (00:30):
doing? Good?
Jennie, how you doing
Jennie Flaming (00:32):
I'm good. You
know, here we are, right in the
middle of what many peopleconsider to be prime hiking
season here in Washington,
Craig Romano (00:43):
although we know
there's no such thing as That's
right, it's always hikingseason, right?
Jennie Flaming (00:48):
It's always
hiking season. And one thing I
love about doing this with youis that we have just as many, if
not more, ideas for the socalled off season, whatever that
means, then peak summer. But weknow from our analytics, from
our podcast host, that morepeople want to know about hikes
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in summer. So here we are. Sothis week, everybody, and next
week, we're going to be talkingabout peak summer hikes. So
today we're going to start thatconversation, and next week,
we're going to really focus onwildflower, Alpine wildflower
hikes. Back at the end of May,we did talk about kind of early
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summer hikes. So when I think ofthese peak summer hikes, Craig
these like late July, August,early September. What I really
think of is the high country andthe views and these high ridges
that we can get to that may notbe snow free until around now.
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What about you? But I also think
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of bugs, yeah, yeah,
all those things you just said,
plus and wildflowers, of course,and wildfire. The other thing
too, if there's any type ofriver crossings involved, you
know that during the height ofthe summer is going to be the
best time to do them. It's areally good point, yeah,
sometimes later into September,if we have a dry summer.
Craig Romano (02:17):
The The one thing
I absolutely love about this
time of year, especially as atrail runner who likes to do
ultras. And you know, it's like30 mile runs in the wilderness,
the daylight. I love the longdaylight. Yeah, of course I
still have, I have my my lightswith me, as everybody should if
something happens. But I can beon the trail at five in the
morning, be off the trail atnine without having to use my
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light. So it just gives me anopportunity to really push the
limits. So I love it. So that'swhen I tend to do most of my
really long hikes. And, ofcourse, into the back country
again, because it's, it's goingto be snow free, and I can get
into my absolute favorite placesthat usually July and August are
about the only times I I dothose places for the reason of
of snow free and long daylight,yeah,
Jennie Flaming (03:03):
yeah,
absolutely. So let's talk about
some of your favorites first,and then I'll share a couple of
mine. So if we're thinking aboutthese higher altitude now,
hopefully mostly snow freehikes, what are some of your
favorites?
Craig Romano (03:21):
So I should also
preface this that these are most
of my kick ass hikes are duringthis time too. But very reason
again, is that I can get upreally high. So again, living in
the Skagit Valley, I have accessto some amazing the Mount Baker
wilderness, the North CascadeNational Park and the glacier
peak wilderness. I'm very, verysatisfied in those three places
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in the summer if I don't need todrive very far. And so in the
North Cascades, I mean, I'vetalked about sourdough
mountains, one of my favorites.
It's still, it might still beclosed because of current fires.
Absolutely love this hike in thesummertime. Again, I can go up
there, get up there early. I cango along the ridge farther. You
can come down the backside andand make a loop Ruby Mountain,
which is another one on theother side. Again, it's been a
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burn there. So I don't knowwhat's happening on that, but
even areas that a lot of thelarge, crazy people think about
to like, cut through a pass inthe summertime, the larches. I
mean, they're they're justgreen, but I could go over the
snowy lakes. So going in there.
It's a great hike in there. Andthere's not many people, because
most of the people are waitingto the large season. So maple
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pass, it's just one of thoselarge hikes that people go it's
a beautiful early summer hike,too, wildflowers and such, too,
with half the crowd still busy,but half the crowds. So I'm
loving anything North Cascades.
I'm loving in the Mount Baker,wilderness. So yeah, even for
shorter hikes to getting up toWinchester, you know, into the
High Divide, high pass, some ofthose areas the High Divide,
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which is Excelsior Ridge, inthat area, coming up from damn
final lakes. And those are allwonderful this time of year.
Anything on Mount Baker, um.
Yeah. Well, I take that back thethe chain lakes and those, I
tend to like that more late inSeptember, when the snow is
pretty much melted, because itcan be pretty snowy up there and
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there's some really nice color.
But those are all all good hikesoff the mountain loop highway
again. This is a great time togo beyond Monte Cristo, getting
up into the glacier basin,getting up into Twin Lakes and
the Gothic basin. These are allprime, prime summer hikes.
Again, you're dealing with a lotless snow and and your your
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water crossings are going to bea lot easier. So those are
great. And then in MountRainier, right? Going? Mount
Rainier, yeah, the WonderlandTrail is great, but some of the
best hikes in Mount Rainier areoff the Wonderland Trail. Yeah,
getting it. And you can scrambleup a lot of these peaks, like
pyramid, which is, you know,near the reflection lakes and
area. Again, you're not going todo these earlier in the season.
They're going to be difficult.
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So this, these are just great,great places to take advantage
of those long daylight hours andgetting up there high so really
cool. What about you? Jennie,what's your favorites?
Jennie Flaming (06:05):
Well, um, those
ones you mentioned are
wonderful. Just to give people afew not quite as hard options,
since that's my job here. Um,one I will. So one thing I'm
going to mention about the lot.
A lot of the ones I'mrecommending is that there is
some driving on gravel roadsinvolved. So I just want to
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mention that not all. I mean, weare talking about some that
don't involve that. But I justwant to mention if you have a
new car, it might not have areal spare tire, and I'd
recommend getting a real sparetire, because even if you have,
like, I've changed a bajilliontires in my life, and I don't
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ever want to do it again, like,I call AAA when I get a flat
tire, but if you're on a ForestService road, you can't do that
like you might not have servicethey're not going to come out
and help you. So you do even ifyou're driving around town and
not changing tires. Just don'tlet that be a reason you got
stranded. That's silly. Andalso, tires are so much better
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than they were even 20 yearsago, so it's less of a concern.
But I just want to mention
Craig Romano (07:21):
that it's still,
it's funny. That's a good
mention. It's even I drive apickup truck a lot on the real
rough roads, and I've come backto my my my truck after a hike
to a flat tire, I hit something,it's like, and that's a drag.
But so you should, you shouldreally know how to change that
thing, because AAA is not goingto come out on these. Matter of
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fact, you wouldn't have cellphone coverage even call triple
A to get you in the first place.
So good point. Yeah,
Jennie Flaming (07:47):
yeah. So I just
wanted to mention that. Okay, so
that said. One of my favoriteplaces in Washington at this
time of year is Deer Park inOlympic National. Great place.
Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful.
It has incredible views. And youcan do several hikes there that
are, like high alpine, but notsuper steep. And so one of those
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is the hike that goes from DeerPark over to obstruction Pass,
which connects up to hurricane,yeah. Grand Ridge, the elk
mountain, yeah. So there's someup and down, but it's a ridge
hike. There's a little bit ofshade here, and there views in
all directions. It's wonderful,um. And there are several other
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trails that leave from thatcampground. So that is
definitely one of my favorites.
I think another spot that Ireally love is Mount St Helens.
Now, unfortunately, at themoment, we've got this long term
closure of Johnston Ridge, whichthat just sucks. I i am so
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discouraged about that. It's oneof my favorite places in
Washington. But as analternative, I know we've talked
about coldwater lake before onthe podcast, but that's a good
spot, but you can, you can getin there actually a little bit
earlier. It tends to be snowfree earlier in the summer.
Yeah, yeah. Cold water isreally, yeah, yeah, for this
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time of year, over on the otherside, not not the other side,
exactly, but like Johnston,Ridge is kind of north west of
the crater. Um, Windy Ridge iskind of Northeast. Now, again,
this is a long drive on a along, slow drive without cell
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service, but it's such a coolspot. It's right there by Spirit
Lake. There's a great viewpointthat like, boom, right? That's
the only place I'm aware of,other than on the LeWitt trail
that goes, that's a backpackingtrip all the way around, which
is different, differentexperience. It's the. Only place
I know of right now where youcan really see into the crater,
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like from the ground, reallywell and up close. So that's a
cool spot. You can also hikedown to Spirit Lake. There's a
couple trails there, like theone that goes to harm. I believe
it's called Harmony falls.
Don't, don't go there thinkingit's an epic waterfall,
especially not this time ofyear. But the point of that hike
is that you can get down closeto spirit, one
Craig Romano (10:26):
of the few legal
places you're allowed access to
the lakeshore. And it's not avery long trail either.
Jennie Flaming (10:30):
No, it isn't.
It's a little bit steep, andit's a little bit, you know,
it's not in great shape, atleast, the last time I was
there, it's been, you know, kindof neglected, honestly, for
quite a long time, but it'sstill very cool.
Craig Romano (10:42):
And if you haven't
hiked Saint Helens on a regular
basis, be prepared because ofthe, you know, the the eruption,
and all the the pumice and thethings change rapidly. Yes,
washouts are very, very commonthere. So trail could be
maintained, and within a year,it's still dealing with
problems. So be prepared to dealwith some some trail blocks,
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roadblocks along the way. Youknow, sometimes you can get
around them most of the time,but, but occasionally you get a
pretty severe washout thatyou're going to have to
Jennie Flaming (11:15):
turn around.
Yeah, and you know to to not betotally boring. Um, you know, a
lot of the hikes, even atSnoqualmie Pass and Stevens
Pass, they're only just nowgetting to the snow free point.
So like, if you're wanting tohike the insanely popular snow
Lake Trail, for example, orKendall catwalk, which is
Craig Romano (11:40):
a tough hike on
the PCT, you wouldn't do that in
the snow.
Jennie Flaming (11:43):
You do not want
to do that in the snow. Or
Rachel Lake, some of those, orlike Lake Valhalla, which I love
to save Lake Valhalla forSeptember. But it's still, you
know, some of these hikes alongthe PCT that are day hikes. Now
you can do those snow free, andusually you can't until like,
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mid July, sometimes early July.
So just because they're they, ifyou live in Seattle, some of
these hikes might be reallyclose to home, but the hiking
season for accessing them safelyis pretty short, you know, just
two or three months. So don'toverlook those close to home
trails that go up really highand aren't safe in snow, like
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Kendall catwalk.
Craig Romano (12:30):
And you mentioned
the Olympics before, too. Yeah,
so many you know, of course, youcan get up hurricane Ridge
almost year round, most of thetime, great. And there's great,
great access to hikes up therehigh country, but, but actually,
mid summer is also one of myfavorite times for some of the
lower areas in Olympics.
Thinking, yeah, and I'm talkingabout the Queens River and the
West Fork and the hump tulips,because you can't afford those
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safely nine to 10 months out ofthe year. If you've never been
the Queen's is amazing if youever wanted the exact opposite
of the whole rainforest thequeens, because you start with a
Ford. Matter of fact, two Fords.
You have to go across the SAMSam's. And it could be waist
deep, depending on your shortlike, maybe it could be waist
deep or, I mean, it depends onthe year it's flowing. So it
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could be pretty intimidating.
Um, but once you get, getpassed, you're, you're not going
to encounter very many people,if anyone, I've, the last time I
was in there was just me and mybuddy up there. And when we
forwarded again to the old Smithplace, which was the 1940s
hunting cabin, I talk about itin my my day hiking Olympic
book, if you're trying to findit. And then one of the coolest
hiking adventures in Washington,you can do it as a one way. It's
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fantastic. 17 miles one way. Andit's the West Fork of the hump
tulips river. And it was thetrail was, really, was designed
with horses in mind. Now, why Isay that? Because horses don't
need bridges. And you're goingto make 25 crossings of the West
Fork. And up 25 it starts offwith just a trickle, and at the
very end you're in there, kneedeep. But I'll tell you, on a
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hot summer day, you just wear apair of, you know, old running,
trail running shoes andeverything, not gonna change out
anything, and you're gonna loveit. It is so much fun. That's
also in my my day hiking theOlympic Peninsula book is one of
my favorite hikes, and very,very few people that I know of
has done that has done it. It'sjust a unique hike, really
Jennie Flaming (14:15):
awesome. Love
it. That's so cool. All right,
everybody. Well, next week,we're going to talk about more
peak summer hikes, but focusingon wildflowers. So we'll see you
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