The Waterboys - May 27th 2023

Hosts: Brent Costelloe and Cam Brown

0.00 - Hour 1 Opener

04.01 - The Week That Was

13.00 - Mitch Coulson (Netball Tasmania CEO)

22.27 - Melinda Green (Record-breaking goal kicker)

26.51 - Kieran Lovell (Kingborough FC Midfielder)

34.52 - Hour 2 Opener

36.20 - Mav Weller (Tasmania Men's State Football Coach)

44.06 - AFL Round 11

53.34 - Ian Chesterman (Australian Olympic Committee President)

1.04.21 - Good Sport Award and Show Close

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
No matter what they're spoiled, where it's played, or the
team's behind it, We've got it.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is the water Boys.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
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Speaker 4 (00:13):
Good morning everyone, Welcome to the water Boys for another
super Saturday of sport. It is Brent Costello in the
driver's seat today alongside Cam Brown. How are you this morning, Brady?

Speaker 5 (00:23):
I'm going very well, Thanks Brent. What about yourself?

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Very well?

Speaker 5 (00:27):
You'd be doing better than some of the Carlton supporters
waking up this morning.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Well, I was a West Coast Eagles supporter waking up
last Sunday, so I feel their pain, Brownie. So gee whiz.
They're not going well though the Blues are they inaccurate kicking?
Dear dear? Last night they're fordsir. I mean, Charlie's been okay,
but Harry McKai again last night just couldn't kick straight
and the whole team couldn't either, six fifteen.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Six fifteen fifty one and defeated by Sydney eleven eleven
seventy seven. So that's foreigner row. The Blues have lost
six out of the last seven so the heat is
going to come on their players, the board, administration, the coach.
Will we questioned not out about that the pressure and
the heat will be coming, Brent.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
They just can't take that next step, can they.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
They found the marries last night, particularly late in the game,
which didn't help them. But you mentioned the inaccuracy in
front of goal and the two key forwards in Kurno
missed a couple of easy ones and Harry mckaye he
missed actually two I think drop hunts won a snap
around the corner. So he's avoid any confidence. And unfortunately,

(01:36):
when you're not putting pressure on the scoreboard, and when
Carton had been down for a while, it becomes infectious,
doesn't it from a confidence point of view. And they've
got a pretty tough run in the next two or
three weeks they do.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Indeed, there was one game in the NFL last night,
Paramatta twenty four defeeted North Queensland at sixteen. A League
Grand final is a week off between the semi finals
and the Grand Final.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Can we love the A League, Brent? But the last
thing that competition needs is a pause.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
Exactly where's the struggle momentum?

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Exactly? You beat me to the punch it It just
struggled to have a footprint in the Australian sporting calendar
and it's diminishing by the week and then in the
biggest stage they have a and the continuity of the competition.
It seems very odd to.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Me, very odd.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Indeed, we've got a big show this morning looking forward,
so we'll go through the week that was plenty going
on right across the world in sports. Netball is interesting
to me right now. Can we know Collingwood pulled out
of the Super Netball League this week? It opens the
door for Tasmania to come into the competition. We're going
to talk to Mitch Culson from Netball Tasmania about that.

(02:44):
Melinda Green will join us as well. She was the
first female player to kick three hundred goals in footy
last weekend, so looking forward to talking to Melinda and
Kiaren Lovell will join us from the undefeated Tigers in
the TSA. Looking forward to all that in our number one.
What's coming up in our too please ye?

Speaker 5 (03:00):
And we're going to be talking to mav Wella, the
Tasmane State coach. So that's going to be a bump
a weekend of football July one. July one, both the
men's and women's will be playing against Queensland, so really
looking forward to that. We're going to discuss some of
the other news in AFL this week, so it's some
big matches. Yes, this weekend.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
I think the dogs have got to trick it one
tonight at gold Case.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, that's in darn on that one.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Utal conditions, so we'll see how we go. Ian Chestaman
to the Australian Olympic Committee president is going to be
joining US NBA finals too. Is that an interesting.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Stage too, Boston? Can they do it?

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Coming back from zip No one's ever done that.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
They said, don't let us win one, don't leave the
door open for us, and they did, didn't.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
I'm back in Jimmy Butler, and they hate to get
it done tomorrow. We've got the good sport of water
a whole lot more in the next couple of hours.
Spring we do.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
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Speaker 6 (03:56):
Good morning, this is the water Boy.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Thanks to Tasmac, your local Commata dealer. It is the
water Boys with Brent Costello and Cam Brown reflecting on.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Sport from the past seven days. Here's the water Boys
weak It wise.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Plenty going on locally, nationally and internationally as always, but
let's start here at home with the whole AFL team
slash stadium, slash training facility slash. I don't know where
we're at, Brownie. It's a very confusing situation at the moment.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
It is confusing. Is the words you mentioned, Brent. Is
this now becoming hijacked in a political narrative which has
been played out and almost sabotaging the momentum. And I
don't want to sound negative here, but ultimately the goal
and desire of many people to have an AFL team
in Tasmania is that in jeopardy at the moment, I'll think.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Give it the nail on the head. It's an absolute
political story, down political situation. The stadium has become a
project of state significance, which makes it a whole lot
harder to be ticked off. I think it's a lengthy
process as well, and we've seen things that have become
projects of state significance before like the pulp mill for example,
just all becomes too hard and they go to the

(05:11):
to that place to die. Basically, it's up to a
four year process potentially before you even start digging on
the site at Macquarie Point. So real fierce for this now,
there's no doubt about it. I've heard some commentary the
last few days saying that political parties just need to
get together and find a way to work forward because
we've actually got an AFL license at the moment, it's

(05:33):
in our hands, we're in the competition. Can you imagine
having to hand that back? It's quite extraordinary, is that?

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Do you see that as a realistic possibility? That absolutely?

Speaker 4 (05:47):
In fact, it's probably leaning more towards that at the moment.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
How do you think it's being viewed in the mainland
at the moment from laughing AFL and the clubs laughable
to such an extent that they can't get their acted down,
they can't act together down there.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, I be wondering what the hell we're doing. We've
cried out for this team for so long, and all
of a sudden it's like we don't want it anymore.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
And the aspiration needed political support didn't it right across
the three parties cancer wherever you want to go.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
It had tripartisan support. But then the stadium became the thing.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
And then obviously did we miss a trick by aligning
the AFL bid with the commitment to building a stadium?
I think so should we have just stuck fat and
said we want an AFL team not contingent on the
stadium and that was a narrative that we peddled out
because to me, it shifted since then, and we, rightly

(06:44):
or wrongly, I think we've Yeah, we've lost a bit
of the hand and the power in that argument. Now.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I think we would have had to get one in
the long run, but we probably could have come later.
It could have and that's maybe what we should have
done it. I think it's too far gone now. The
AFL was absolutely adamant that they go hand in hand.
So if we can't get a stadium built, we're not
getting a team. So that's where we're at, and we
get to sit here and talk about it all and

(07:12):
that's that's without even talking about the training facility. Cam
So I tried to take that forward on the news
on Monday night about where that could be well, that's
one site and that's I think that's in my opinion,
how to be the preferred site from the AFL and
government's perspective from what I understand. But that's going to
cause controversy as well. So not only got the stadium
to worry about, You've got where is this training base

(07:34):
going to be which needs to be near in close
proximity with the words in the in the deal to the.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
CBD, well that would make sense.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
So we've got problems left rot and centered with a
bit at the moment we have.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
It's unfortunate that the narrative of shifted so.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
Quickly to think we're doing car for he.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
That we have going back a couple of weeks ago, Brett,
we need to move on the I guess the AFL
world was caught by Prize with the resignation of Damien
Hardwick during the week at the Richmond Football Club. Were
you surprised, Yeah, it was, Yeah, timing was the timing was.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
If they got to the end of the year and
said he said he was done, I wouldn't have been surprised,
but the way it happened only eleven rounds into the season.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah, And what was your take on it brand. I
think one of the comments that really resonated with me
that came from Damien Hardwick. He actually mentioned about the
last Dance and the documentary and I think he felt,
like he said internally, it was always going to be
his last year, even though he had another year of
his contract to run, and I just felt that perhaps

(08:40):
he thought, with Hopper Taranto that we can still squeeze
one more premiership ye out of this particular group, and
then as that progressed and that was becoming less and
less likely, and probably the final nail on the coffin
in that lost to Essendon, he just didn't have the
desire and motivation. And I think it is what it is.
He said, he just didn't have the passion and love

(09:03):
for the club was too strong for him. If he
wasn't if his heart wasn't in it for the rest
of the season, knowing that they're probably not going to
win the flags, I think it was the right call.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
You're telling me if they were eight and three, you'd
still be their coach this weekend. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
And as fluky as is, you know, if there were
one on the weekend, he's still be there. Yeah, they
won't there last two before that.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yep, good point.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
So it would be interesting to see who gets the
next gig there.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
What a servant he's been, the big shoes to feel
whoever it comes into that.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Yeah, And as we know, he embraced connection and vulnerability
and the different I guess relationships he had with his
players outside of footy as men and as people and
being the best version of themselves. They were. They were
creators of, as we said, all the vulnerability and the
new wave that's come into t AFL players and connections

(09:54):
with coaches. So well done, Jet. It's a mess at
another club though, Hawthorne Footy Club justin reeves the CEO Yes,
signing from the Hawthorne Footy Club. Well, there's a casual.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
That's exactly what I was about to say. Another casually
from this ongoing saga, which hopefully is close to being
sorted out because it's gone on far, far too long.
We know that, and they believe. Reading the paper this
morning and I'm reading this from Mark Robinson's article, lawyers
were the first Nation's families at the center of the

(10:27):
Hawthorne racism scandal have recommended a settlement to the AFL,
which could end the long and damaging saga.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
So hopefully it's going to be in this settlement. Who
knows who's Lastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan. I don't think
there's going to be any admission from them or culpability
from what I can see.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I don't know. We'll see where it lands. But it's
been an ongoing saga, it's fair to say, and it's
heard a lot of people, so hopefully it's not too
far away from me it resolved. And in Norfolk this
weekend they've had to pull out of singings and reserves
in the SFL men's competition injuries and COVID and we
know they were struggling for numbers during the off season,

(11:11):
but it's caught up with them the Eagles and they
won't play this weekend against Signet, which is meant to
be down at snug So it's disappointed.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah, I think the positive thing around that is that
I believe they got some great support from Signet and
we're empathetic and understanding of the position in Norfolk were
in and we don't know how many injuries necessarily and
COVID rip through the club, but it is unfortunate, and
particularly when they were fairly precarious in terms of having
a team in the competition at the beginning of the year,

(11:40):
So there might be some concerns. Let's hope it's just
a one off.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Now, do you have any interest in Tom Bell Chambers's
fight with Moon?

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Did you find it?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
I loved it, I reckon because the rugby league guys
have done it for a while now, You've seen Paul
Gowan and taking on all these players. But yeah, Moon's
and Tommy got in the ring and it was a
bit of a height difference and weight difference. I reckon.
Tommy had him covered Moons and he got him with
a few early ones and he just felt like he
was going to be on top and got it done

(12:12):
just inside the three rounds. I think it was only
going three rounds and not Moon's out. So yeah, it
looks like we'll see I think la Trell Mitchell scored
his name mat now that rugby league player and wants
Tommy Bell changed.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
A fair bit of wait coming into the fight tom
Bell Chains, I thought the Moons looked really fit.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, they both did. They looked incredible, So I think
we'll see more of this happening, Brannie and I didn't
more that, to be honest, that is the week that was.
We got lots more coming up on the show for
you this morning. Later this hour we're talking footy with
Kimber's football club player Kieren Lovell and also goal kicking
a record hold on Belinda Green. But up next week
switching out focus to netball when Netball Tasmani A CEO

(12:50):
Mitch Colson joins us on The water Boys to talk
super Netball. That's after this thanks to tas Mak your
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Speaker 6 (12:56):
This the water Boys.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Thanks to tas Back You're local Commoda dealer. It is
the water Boys with Brent Costello and Cam Brown. Now
some exciting news during the week, Not so exciting if
you're a fan of the Collingwood Netball club, but exciting
news if you're a Tasmanian netball fan, because Collingwood is
out of the Super Netball competition and Tasmania well could
we be in Let's find out from Netball Tasmani at

(13:22):
CEO Mitch Colson, who joins us on The water Boys
this morning. Good morning to you, Mitch.

Speaker 7 (13:28):
Morning guys.

Speaker 8 (13:28):
Thanks having me on.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Great to hear from you, mate. Let's bring us up
to speed. Where do we sit? As I said, Collingwood
is out of the Super Netball League. We made a
push a couple of years ago, didn't quite work out.
We're told there might be not having expansion until the
next round of TV rights. Where do we sit as
you wake up this Saturday morning?

Speaker 8 (13:47):
Yeah, so obviously we're first received notes about Collingwood and
taking this review. Things have evolved pretty quick quickly really,
so look ow we're giving notice during the week they're
formally out last season. So from here we've you know,
been in very very regular contact when the Australia they're

(14:08):
just basically going through a process of determining you know,
criteria and timeline for how they'll assess the market for
that eighth license. So once we receive that information about
you know, exactly what it is they're looking for and
what they're what they're going to prioritize, Yeah, we'll certainly
be running our eyes very quiet over that and seeing

(14:30):
you know how that stacks up against our priorities here
in Tazy. They has I said before, you know, we
think here in Tausy we have a very unique market
that can they can offer a lot of great things.
But but equally we you know, we also know there's
you know, there's going to be a number of interested
parties as well, So a little bit of wait and
see at the moment, and yeah, we'll see what information

(14:51):
we get in the next week or so.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
An exciting opportunity, there's no doubt about that. Now we
read this morning that there might be some stipulations around
having two teams out of Victoria with the TV rights.
Where where does that leave us? And there's even talk
of a hybrid model with Victoria and Tasbany. Can you
tell us about that?

Speaker 8 (15:10):
Yeah, So firstly, you know, through conversations in the Australia,
you know that they have been really transparent with us.
Kelly Ryan is CEO there. You know her and I
have been in regular contact. So there is some guidelines
in the contract around you know, an eighteen competition and
two of those coming from Melbourne. However, you know, Kelly

(15:34):
has described to me that there is some open minded
the stare from from the Australia and and Foxtel to
you know, at least have a conversation and consider that.
So not necessarily a set in stone or a hard
and fast rule around that. But yeah, something we're aware
of that. You know, from a broadcast perspective, obviously they're

(15:56):
always going to be looking at the side of the
market and there and the big the big numbers is
what they want, which we appreciate. But yeah, I said,
from a tas perspective, you know, we think there's some
some other things that you know, we can certainly bring
to the table. So yeah, interesting times. And as the
potential of a you know, a hybrid or a partnership model,

(16:20):
I mean from a Tasmati in perspective, we probably we're
probably pretty open minded, I would say, So you know
that there's obviously a raft of different outcomes that that
could come out of this process, one of which maybe
that I haven't sort of received any details or anything
around that just yet. But yeah, we're keeping a pretty
open mind, is what i'd say.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Talking to Mitch Carlson and Netball Tasmane and CEO this
morning on the water Boys, Mitch, just listening to your
commentary there with the stumped up preference though be for
a pure Tasmanian team running out of Tasmania as opposed
to that hybrid model where you know, potentially things might
be a bit compromise in working with a team that

(17:02):
might come out of Victoria with with some sort of
partnership with Tasmania. But I guess if Netbule Australia came
to you and said it's going to be five or
so years before a Tasmanian team could come in, would
you jump at that opportunity if it presented itself where
you could get into the competition quicker or be it
with a compromise model.

Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah, it's a great question, I think from our end
at this moment in time. Well, I said, pretty pretty
open mind. I think if you if you're really seriously considering,
you know, that sort of highroad or joint ownership model,
and I'm not I'm not sure exactly how that could look. Yeah,
I think whilst you know that that would be exciting

(17:49):
to consider, I guess in terms of just having a
stake in some called super airport. At the same time,
you know, we want to think that through carefully in
terms of you know, whether that is something that is
a really really long term proposition, because you know, whether
or not our own you know, tasismony and license, whether

(18:10):
or not that that is in the here and now
or whether that is potential to be part of the
next round of expansion which NEPLE Australia. I know they've
obviously focused on finding this aish license now, but they
are you know, they are very keen to turn you know,
this from an eighteen competition into you know, at least
the ten and then who knows. So yeah, we wouldn't

(18:33):
we wouldn't want to necessarily commit to something now that
may prevent us from you know, grabbing an opportunity in
in you know, two or three years more time to
do something in the standard sense. And I guess the
rs A consideration too from our end is you know,
exciting for for NEPAUS and very aspirational to have a

(18:54):
team at the top level. But equally, you know that
there's a whole raft of us some things we would
want to cons in terms of any punch arrangement where
we want to make sure that it would secure great
outcomes as well for our talented young their boys, our
state team programs, and how would that help us you know,

(19:14):
get access to elite I elite environments lead coaches to
help ensure that as many in their boys continue to
improve our state team rankings continue to grow and in
the long term, Yere, we want to be our top
four team in terms of our junior state team. So
you know that's a big consideration as well.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
I love the aspiration that's coming through your commentary this morning, Mitch,
and and you wouldn't be starting from scratching in terms
of that license bid because we know back in twenty
twenty one that the organization something stumps something forward. So
I guess from that experience, how much in that initial
bid are you able to I guess continue and use

(19:54):
and what other things I guess do you have to
include in the bid since some discussions passed over the
last couple of years and perhaps weren't included. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Absolutely, So you know twenty twenty one, you know, a
great amount of work was done at that time obviously,
so that's a credit to Aaron Pidgeon, former CEO and
the board Tom So you know, we know that you know,
a big piece you know, well critical to any you know,
professional sporting operation is going to be looking at the financials,

(20:28):
how sustainable is this model and from what you know
what was prepared at the time, it was it was
really diligent and some great you know fact finding around
you know, what what does the cost look like to
run you know, a top to year SSN team, So
you know that's that's a couple of years ago now,
so that you know, there's probably some updates and things there,

(20:52):
you know, to look out from our end. But again
there's a pretty strong basis there which is obviously which
is obviously helpful there obviously the other things that yeah,
you may seek through a process and we'll wait to see,
you know, officially, is what you know that request will
look like in terms of for information from each party.

(21:13):
So yeah, that's that's helpful in the sense that obviously
this process without knowing dates or anything just yet, Like
clearly it's going to have to move very quickly when
they're trying to find an eighth team in a very
short amount of time.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, no doubt about it will be quick sticks. But
looking forward to it, Mitch, is exciting times. And I
really appreciate your time on the water Boys this morning,
and all the best with the push mate, and look
for to talking to you about it in the future.

Speaker 8 (21:43):
No, thanks very much for having me on, guys.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Mitch calson there the CEO of Netball Tasmania talking about
a potential super Netball team out of the state. We'll
be exciting if we can do that. Obviously, the stadiums
they're ready to go at my State Bank Arena. The
Silver Dames hosted Super Netble just before as well, so
the stadium Brownie Unlock footy won't be an issue, which
is which is good to know. Hey, we've got lots

(22:07):
more to come on the show. This morning not too
far away is at Kimbra Footy Club Star here and level.
But up next we're talking to a record holder, Melinda Green,
who plays for New Norfolks. She has kicked three hundred goals,
the first female to do so in Tasbany. That is
next on the water Boys doing it all thanks to
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Speaker 6 (22:24):
This here's the water Boys.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Thanks to tas Back your local Kobota dealer. It is
the water Boys with Brent Costello and Cam Brown.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's our time for the water Boys Regional Footy round up.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Well, this was exciting during the week when we learned
that a star of Tasbanian football became the first female
player to kick three hundred goals in Tasmania. Her name
is Melinda Green and she's been good enough to join
us on the water Boys. This morning to Dame Melinda,
were well, thank you and congratulations on your achievement the

(22:55):
first female player, as I said, to kick three hundred goals.
So how do you feel that as you wake up
on this Saturday morning.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (23:01):
Pretty good actually, and great milestone to.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Have, I guess absolutely. Now it came last weekend. You
a loss, unfortunately, but tell us about the kick. You
got one for the day, I think, and and got
that weight off your shoulders. I suppose it's been sitting
there waiting for this milestone to come.

Speaker 9 (23:19):
It's definitely been a weight on my shoulders. But yeah,
it was a bit of a mongrel kick, but the
main thing went through those two big sticks, so that
was one good thing.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Absolutely, And everyone got around you too, didn't they. Your
teammates were all about it. They had a banner I
think for you to walk through after the game and
they really made a special moment of it for you.

Speaker 9 (23:39):
Are the girls up at New Norfolk. They've just been
so great with every milestone, with every player has out there,
and for this big achievement, Yeah, they hadn't banner guard
of honor and credit to Hugh and ville Day also
and our cults team they also lined up and honored
that milestone. I guess, so that was quite quite amazing to.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
Have also and Melinda the miles they mightn't have happened.
If you talk about the support you've got from me
an all fake team, but the desire for you to
play alongside your daughter Madison, that must have been really exciting,
and I guess added to your desire to continue in
the game.

Speaker 10 (24:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
Look, I retired two years ago and as I said,
Dean King actually asked my daughter to come up and
do a bit of pre season with them. She was
only fifteen at the time, no chances of a senior game,
and then she got trained and then then we got
asked to play a mother daughter game.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
And it's changed so much, hasn't it, Which is fantastic too,
women's football since when you became involved back in two
thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, it was a
completely different competition. And how have you seen them momentum
building over the last decade and a half.

Speaker 9 (24:49):
I look the change in the women's com it's just
been amazing, Like it's having these young junior kids come
through the ranks and the skills that they're got now
instead of they've had. They're allowed to play through under
eight right through now instead of when I was back
in my younger days, I was only allowed to go
to under thirteen and had to stop. So these girls

(25:12):
have got a great chance to come through and show
their skills now.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, it's amazing how far women's footage come. It's fantastic
to say. Now you're down at snug today, You've got
a game down there, but the men men's teams might
be joining you down there. There's a some injuries and
COVID that have swept through the club, but you girls
haven't been affected, which is good.

Speaker 9 (25:33):
No, we actually don't train the same night as the
man so that's probably one good thing that it hasn't
struck us yet. So yeah, unfortunately the men's the Reserve
and sy You's had to pull out, but we've still
got the cults and women's down there. So in for
a good day.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
And what sort of attention to you expecting today down there.
You've had a big week in the media, obviously expecting
the opposition to rough with your feathers a little bit.

Speaker 9 (25:57):
Oh no, the thing is and camp. Everyone so supportive
and you don't really get that much. You get a
little bit, but everyone so supportive of women's footy, so it'll.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Be good to see absolutely well good luck today and
well done again on your fantastic achievement. We love what
you do and thanks so much for joining us having
a chat about it on the water Boys this morning.

Speaker 9 (26:19):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Guys awesome Melinda Green there, who has broken the record
for most goals kicked by a female player in Tasmania.
I have to bring up three hundred four new Norfolk
last weekend. We've got lots more still to come for
you on the water Boys this morning now too. Mav
Wella will join us. Who's the tas Money and State
footy coach and chessman as well the Australian Olympic Committee president.
But up next we're talking more footy with Tigers player

(26:42):
Kieran Lovell. That is after this on the water Boys
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Speaker 6 (26:48):
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Speaker 4 (26:51):
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Speaker 2 (26:58):
The water Boys, looking all things TSL.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Well, what a hot start it's been for the Kingbod
Tigers in the TSL. They are undefeated from their opening
six games and one man that's been a big part
of it is their ball magnet, Kieran Lovell, who's been
good enough to join us on the show this morning.
Get a kids Welcome.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
Mate, Good morning guys.

Speaker 10 (27:17):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (27:17):
We are well, but probably not as good as you.
You are waking up as an undefeated player with the Tigers.
Things obviously pretty good down there at the twin Ovals
at the moment.

Speaker 7 (27:26):
Yeah, it's always pretty exciting starting a Saturday, know, and
you're undefeated. We do have a pretty tough trip today
up to you to play North Lonnie, so we're pretty
focused on that. But yeah, really excited.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
You had their measure earlier in the season. But yeah,
different venue as you say this afternoon, and they haven't
lost a game since then either. They've been been in
hot form themselves, so it won't be an easy challenge,
will it.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
Yeah. No, they definitely play their ground really well. It's
got so much space and they've got some good young
players to cover the ground quite well. But that's something
that were sort of ourselves on as well, So hopefully
it's a really good game. They've got a few boats
that were out last time back in the top side
this time around, so it's definitely gonna be a tough matchup.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Obviously, tough starts of the season, tough end of the
season last year with the Grand Final loss, mate, But
how has that driven everyone over the offseason? Has that
made you hungrier to go that one step better this year?

Speaker 7 (28:22):
Yeah, definitely has. I think it sort of got people
into their work a little bit earlier into the preseason.
A lot of blokes sort of just had that fire
in the belly come October and November and got some
really good working in the preseason. We obviously lost a
few guys that went away to play some VFL footat
but we brought in some other guys as well and

(28:42):
they're fitting to the group seamlessly. But yeah, the fire
and the belly is certainly there from what happened last year.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Talking to Kieran Lovells this morning on the Water Boys, Kieran,
it's Cam here. Can I ask about yourself in particular?
I watched the game against Lonceston and really late in
the game it looked like you had a nasty injur
So how's the body held up? Because, yeah, potentially, looking
at the way you were you were nursing that as
you were coming off the field, it looked like you
might be out of for out of action for some

(29:10):
period of time.

Speaker 7 (29:12):
Yeah, so it pulled up really well. The arm I
probably carried on a little bit there, the boys said,
But yeah, I just sort of got it caught up
in a tackle pretty bad. But it sort of turned
out to just be a bit of a stinger. Elbow
is still a little bit sort of saw. But I
was able to play the next week. We had to
buy the week after, which was quite handy, and then
I was able to play the week after that.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Kis, I want to bring your attention to something. We
went to the press conference last Thursday, Trent formally, your
coach said, Kieren Lovell out two to three weeks and
so we go back. That's the headline of the story. Obviously,
you're being the big name that you are, right that
goes to air that night, then you play on the Saturday.
What's going on there? Please?

Speaker 7 (29:50):
Yeah, I did notice that. I I messaged Trent about
an hour after the press conference and said I was
going to try everything I could to get up and play,
but at that point we sort of had ruled me
out for a couple of weeks to hear what they
sort of said. But I just had a real itch
and thought we'd just strap it up real tight and
give it a go. And I trained on the Thursday night,

(30:11):
got through, so I played what was a pretty big game.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Against Clarence and you must be delighted with the form
of you know, you mentioned a couple of players that
come out of the team, but Jack Tomkinson, he's had
an outstanding start to the season, one of the premier
players in the competition at the moment.

Speaker 11 (30:27):
Kieran, Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
He makes our job as midfield is super easy. Since
he's come to the club last year, I think he's
really changed sort of our whole identity. He's got that
sort of big bully type mentality and he backs it
up with the way he plays, so it sort of
makes us all stand a lot taller. And yeah, our
whole midfield brigade, Lucky Clifford's come a step again this year,

(30:51):
not just with his leadership, but with the way he's
playing on the field as well. So we've had some
really good improvement from some of our young guys and
I think that's the reason why we're we're six and zero.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Now. We know you had some time away obviously at
Hawthorne and over in South Australia, but just the list
build that's been building under Trent bornmol it seems to
be a really clever, astute strategy and there's a number
of players now that have played a fair bit of
footing together and probably build up one hundred and twenty
one hundred and thirty games. But then there seems to
be a couple of two or three really promising juniors

(31:25):
that have just added and they seem to progress. So
I talk players like Clifford in particular, and College is
now playing some really good food to your O'Neills. Another
one is that how you've seen it just a natural
progression being able to keep a core group of players
and now it looks like you're building a team that's
going to be there as a sustainable long premiership success
year after year.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
Yeah. Absolutely, I think Trent always had real trust and
faith in those young guys. You speak about Max College,
George O'Neill, those guys, and now they've got those sixty
seventy eighty games into them where maybe the first twenty
or thirty they weren't having ten plus disposers, they weren't
kicking goals. But now through sort of that continuity of

(32:07):
playing in this side and with these structures, they're starting
to play some really good footing and we're starting to
reap the rewards from it.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Kids. Obviously, a lot of talk about the future of
the TSL at the moment, with the AFL bid and
everything that comes with that. What do you see the
ideal structure of footy being for Tasmania. Obviously you've played
in the VFL and the SAMPLE and they're state leagues. Obviously,
do we need to have one here as well as
a VFL team or what do you think is the
best model?

Speaker 7 (32:33):
Yeah, Look, I'm not one hundred percent sure. I really
like the TfL and I'd be happy for it to
stay around, but to be honest, I'll sort of just
adjust to whatever whatever takes place, whether that's wanting to
have a crack at the VFL or stay at Kingdom,
whatever competition they're in.

Speaker 9 (32:53):
But yeah, I don't.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
Mind the idea of a premier regional competition down here. Obviously,
it's so it's the guys from down the south. I
can understand a little bit of I guess sadness from
the guy out north who will no longer have that
premier competition if it does go that way. Well, I
mean they'll have their own premier competition. Sorry. But with

(33:14):
the VFL being based down here, yeah, I mean I'm
really looking forward to it. It'll be good to shake
things up. It'll be interesting to see what clubs do
and what players do, and how it all looks.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
And what about the AFL team itself. Obviously, as we said,
you spent time in the AFL system. You had to
move away to do that. But for kids here coming
through the draft just like you did, to be able
to have the chance to stay at home must be
pretty exciting.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yeah, I think it's super exciting. I still remember on
draft night sort of sitting there with lots of mixed emotions.
Obviously super excited to hopefully be getting drafted, but pretty
scared about where I might end up, whether it be
wa three or four hours away on a flight or Victoria, Queensland,
like you sort of not knowing, but having that Tasmanian

(33:58):
based team here now I'll really give some guys down
here i'thing to strive for. I'm sure there'll be lots
of academy stuff in place, which is something that I
think back when I was going through the Devil with
all the Mariners then there wasn't all that much contact
with AFL clubs, but whereas now the young fellows down
here should hopefully be able to get a bit of that.

(34:20):
And also just with the VFL coming in, I think
that's a massive one as well for guys sort of
post AFL career if they don't sort of work out
the way that they would have hoped, sort of like
I did and then had to go and play elsewhere,
that can sort of come back to Tazzy and play for.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Their home state now, beautifully said, mate, massive game coming
up the Southernoon as we forecast two o'clock bounds at
you Ta Stadium. It is the top of the table
clash between your Tigers and North contests and all the
very best here in Lovell. And thanks for joining us
on the water Boys this morning.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
Thanks very much, guys, have a great weekend.

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Speaker 4 (35:05):
Oh nice first hour, but we've got plenty more coming
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Brownie run us through. What's coming up place.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Yes, we're going to be talking to Mavuella, the Tasmayan
state AFL coach. And we've got some representative football happening
on July one, Bread that's a North hobarto.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
That is Gala day of foot You can't wait for it.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yes, the women's will be playing that day against a
Queensland representative team. So it's great an aspiration for the
very best players in our premier competitions get the opportunity
to weir the map of Tasmania. So Toria, we're going
to be talking to mad Well around that. We're going
to discuss AFL in particular around eleven and some of
the matches coming up. Ian Chesterman, the Australian Olympic Committee President,

(35:45):
is going to be joining us live on the phone.
We're going to be talking about some boxing the NBA
Finals are coming up. Brent, good sport.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
We've got lots coming up, Brownie, if you just wake
up this morning till it was Carton going down to
Sydney last night eleven eleven seventy seven to six fifteen
fifty one. And in the NRL Paramatta got the chocolates
against North Queensland twenty four to sixteen. That's all head
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the water Boys with Brent Costello and at Cam Brown
on this Saturday morning, May twenty seven, twenty twenty three,
which means we're just over a month out from the
big state match between Tasmania and Queensland. And the man
leading the men's team is the coach Mav Wella, who's
been good enough to join us on the water Boys
this morning to day. Mav hey, great man, nice to

(36:43):
talk to you mate. It isn't too far away now,
which is unbelievably exciting. How's things looking as far as
the squad goes.

Speaker 11 (36:50):
Yeah, it's coming around really quickly.

Speaker 9 (36:53):
That's good.

Speaker 11 (36:53):
It's good.

Speaker 10 (36:54):
We've got some We've.

Speaker 11 (36:55):
Got some real, real talent to pick from. There's going
to be a hard job come you know, the second
or third training run to trimmer down. But you know,
I'm confident that we've got some players into the positions
that will.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
Will have an impact.

Speaker 11 (37:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
What are you looking for particular as a coach mate.
Is it all about skill or you're looking for blokes
that just want to pull on the map and represent
their state And you know you need some of those
guys in the team as well, I suppose, don't you.

Speaker 11 (37:24):
Yeah, absolutely, it's it's probably the later. It's probably the
first sort of criteria that we're looking at. Are they
going to play the play the Tasmanian way and represent
the state? Stay proud. But you know, we were lucky.
I think I think a lot of the Tazmanians play
that style. And yeah, to come.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Together nicely and mat I you must be I guess
delighted to have a lot of support from the two
c L coaches and in particular them having been connected
with you and being involved on match day as well.
So the cooperation among that is really important.

Speaker 7 (37:59):
Yeah, have been great.

Speaker 11 (38:00):
It's it's it's been a collaborative effort, you know, like Adam,
Ace and Trent, but the other guys have contributed as well,
And yeah, I think it was it was a bit
it was a bit different.

Speaker 7 (38:14):
At the start.

Speaker 11 (38:15):
The start, I think there's a lot of you know,
decisions that were sort of overshadowing the team and the opportunity.
But I think now nowy sort of come aboard and.

Speaker 10 (38:28):
You know, happy to help out.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
You mentioned you're going to drill down and probably select
and trim the squad in the next couple of weeks.
What's it look like, I guess on game day? So
today two sell matches and we've got some people in
the squad outside the two yourself, So how do you
go about connecting in with I guess assessing the players
performances over the weekend.

Speaker 11 (38:48):
Yeah, so we're tracking the players now and you know,
a few started the season really well and probably need
to find a little bit more form now. It's just
the it's just.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
You know, just the way it goes with.

Speaker 11 (39:05):
Getting closer to the game that you have to end
the form and you know, it's a tough team to
pick and there's going to be a lot of guys
that stick. So you know, we'll track those guys up
until the first training run. We'll probably get our squad
of I think we've got about forty four forty five
of the moment, but we'll get that down to about
thirty six thirty seven for the first train and run.

(39:27):
And yeah, it'll be busy sort of match committees there
on to the game. So you know, a lot of
conversations and a lot of a lot.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
Of watching footing and I guess the opposition to Queensland
and you want to focus on your own brand and
your own style come July the first. But we've got
a lot of Tasmanian X. Tasmania is actually playing up
in Coinsland. We're tap into them as well, just to
find out a bit about the makeup of their squad
and players that perhaps aren't too familiar to yourselves and

(39:59):
the coaches.

Speaker 11 (40:00):
Yeah, I've already sort of tapped into a couple of
those options there. We've got We've got some a lot of.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
Tasmanes up there. There's actually been.

Speaker 11 (40:09):
There's five names in the in the Queensland squad, which
is a bit bizarre, but yeah, look, Tommy Salder's a
good friend of mine. He's up at Redlands midfield coach
here've played a lot of Sweets and Tazzy and he's
been he's helping me get my head around what they're
sort of bringing that. I've named a pretty strong squad.
One of the guy that's a notable absenceees Matt Hammillman,

(40:32):
who's who's thinking a lot of goals, so they've left
him out of the squad. So but they're going to
have some big tea forwards, so that's going to be
a challenge.

Speaker 7 (40:43):
We've we're probably lack.

Speaker 11 (40:45):
A little bit of a little bit of depth there
in our key defender or like a true key defender
options down back. So yeah, we're just sort of working
out how we go about that. Jamison House has come
back into in the State League footy and he's coming
to the squad as well, so he's obviously a tried

(41:05):
hey defender there and he's playing some good footy. And
then Donnally down down it's down at Kingston, he's playing
a good foot you could guards and go back, so
we've got some options there. But yeah, we're tracking their
squad pretty closely, and yeah, we'll pick we'll pick the
defenders that forward.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
And we can certainly pick up from you and your
commentary some of the enthusiasm and energy about being involved
as coach of this Tasmanian team because the realities are
it's dropped off a little bit. This represented representative football
for Tasmania and the opportunities over the last couple of
years have been few and far between, so it's a
really exciting event coming up for the players and coaches.

Speaker 11 (41:49):
Yeah, and I'm riding they're they're probably their wave like
they're they're they're really excited to represent the state. You know,
they understand that's the first opportunity in a while to
do that, and it comes with you know, more options
next year and you know the transition.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
From THEFL going to BEEF the next couple of years.

Speaker 11 (42:14):
So guys want to be a part of that and
it's just exciting to be a part of that as well.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
And Matt, before we let you go, I know you're
on Richmond a short time across your AFL career. But
Damien Hardwick of course announcing he was stepping away during
the week, what sort of impact did he have on
you in your short time at the club.

Speaker 11 (42:33):
He had very big impact, Brannie. A lot of a
lot of his philosophies shaped away that eye.

Speaker 10 (42:40):
Coach.

Speaker 11 (42:42):
He's a terrific coach, very strategic philosophical. I think, you know,
looking in from the outside now, I.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
Think he's probably just a little bit burned out.

Speaker 11 (42:51):
You know, he's been there well, I think tended ten
twelve years now, and so he's obviously had a good.

Speaker 7 (42:59):
Crack at it and.

Speaker 11 (43:02):
And got the results as well. And I think you know,
he went away, he went around again and try to
give it another till But it'd be interesting to see
what he does in the next couple of years. And
I know the boys excited for him, and I think
he needs a break made and assess what he wants

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to do.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Absolutely all mate, Well, great to chat to you and
hopefully we'll talk to you again the lead up to
the game because we can't wait for it. July one,
North highbud Ival, Tasmania taking on Queensland. Mavuella. He's the
coach of the Tasmanian men's side and we wish you
all the best. Map thanks for talking to us on
the water Boys this morning.

Speaker 11 (43:39):
Sounds good.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
There he goes Mad Weller, star of AFL footy and
now coaching our men's team in Tasmania. Can't wait for
the state game coming up in just over a month's time.
Can't wait for the rest of the show as well.
Not too far away his Australian Olympic Committee president and chesterman.
But up next we're talking at more footy and looking
at AFL Round eleven. That's next year on the water Boys.
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Speaker 1 (44:13):
Turning their attention to the national game. It's the water
Boys AFL ramp.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Yes. Last night it was a big win to the
Sydney Swans in a crucial game for both clubs. They
won eleven eleven seventy seven to Carlton six fifteen fifty one.
Where does this leave the Blues please Camp?

Speaker 5 (44:29):
Well, amazingly it actually when you look at the ladder
because they had a pretty fast start Carlton, there's still
only half a game out of the eight. Now there's
still some games to be played, but in terms of
this season it seems to be slipping away. I think
they've lost four in a row, six out of the
last seven, and they're void of any confidence at the

(44:49):
moment in the in particular, and fair enough to the
loyal Carlton supporters are crowing from bad enough they have.
They played Melbourne next Friday night, which you'd think would
be a difficult game. The following week they've got Sen
at the MCG. You've seen to be tracking a lot better,
and then they've got Gold Coast before coming to the bye.

(45:10):
So then they've got to win two of the next three.
But the pressure is did they jump to it. We
have to have a look at the coach Brent in
this particular point in time, because there's a narrative that
Michael Voss is probably not the most tactically astute coach
going around in the AFL. Is you got the right

(45:30):
people around them, it seems that they're not able to
move to a plan B. But then people would argue,
you know, some of the players in that competition, I
mean they had what they have four or five all
Australians last year memory we talk about the two key forwards.
I've got Walks, we've got a brand Leme Mellis and
crips weddings in all Australian.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Hewett too obviously went off last night, but can play
the game.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Yeah, there's something not quite right there at carl I
just wonder whether are not. Voss's reputation as a player
was just so strong and then they're you know where
they felt like they had to get a someone that
was known as a hard task master and well highly

(46:16):
respected as a as a as a player, and a
big name came across and didn't. It wasn't a successful
period against Brisbane. But I guess I'm arguing. And then
you juxtaposed that against his teammate and premiership teammate in
Craig McCrae and colinwd did an exhausted, exhaustive research and
come out with him.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
The thing is that it's always the coach at Carton,
isn't it does? It's gone through so many and nothing changes.
They're still the same Carton as I have been. I
don't know, I do.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
I do have some empathy for their supporters at the
moment They've been frustrated for a long period of time
and they went through the heartache at the back end
of last season and they probably hoped, Okay, hopefully that's
going to galvanizes and really sticking the guts over the
summer and we'll rebuild and launch a finals campaign. But
it looks to be slipping away from them the game,

(47:07):
said Ay Brentson Kilda versus Hawthorne Saints should win that one,
despite Hawthorne thumping West Coast.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Yeah, I think killed it for me in that one.
We've got Nam up against while you're up and that
of course is the indigenous names for Sir Doug Nichols round.
Who do you like in that one? Bradie?

Speaker 5 (47:27):
I think this will be a close one. I really
liked how Freemantle have steadied the ship over the last
couple of weeks. We know it's been well publicized that
they're playing a different style of a game mid season,
which I think is a terrific adjustment from the coach
long view. They're playing more attacking footy, giving their forwards
a chance that their ball movement, particularly from the back half,
is a lot more productive. But I think Melbourne just

(47:50):
the fact that the game's being played at home today.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Now, when you're long played at home, it's usually an
automatic tick. But they've got a few out against GWS
down at GMHBA Stadium the safnoon. They're still red hot
favorites with the bookies the Cats And do you agree
with that GWS six doors twenty five a two horse race?

Speaker 5 (48:08):
You like GWS at the line? Is that what you're
telling about?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Maybe? I know they've got a few out too. They've
lost Kelly and Haynes and Himmelberg, so they're a little
bit depleted themselves.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
But they just don't lose down there. They'll get their case,
but I think they'll get their season back on track. Now.
There's a Johanneson out for the Bulldogs, which is sad.
He's going to be out for.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Hasn't he returned his career. He's been fantastic.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
Yeah, he's had a terrific season and unfortunately just when
he was building some real momentum and we know that
position will shift back to half back flink where he
gives the docks the Dogs such dash and run and
elite for skills. Unfortunately he'll be out so for a
period of yeah, two or three months, so the Gold
Coast too. I think there were a real chance in

(48:53):
this one, Brent.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Yeah, I do too, and d and of course so
neutral venue and how they're playing two games in are up.
I think they staying up there the whole time.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
So the Dogs have been working towards this for about
a month in terms of the acclimatization and some of
the adjustments they've been making to some of their training
to I guess cope with the extreme heat we're expected
to see up there tonight. So I think the Dogs
will just sneak home.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
West Coast finally start to get a few back Yo Edwards, Herne, Barris.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
But there were three you could argue, well, certainly Barras
Herne and you are definitely in their best twenty two.
So I think it'll be stronger. Not strong enough though, no,
But see they need a just for the sake of
their football club. They need a strong performance where at
least their supporters can hang on to some effort because
it wasn't there last week Brent.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Some calling it the darkest day in the club's history
last weekend.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
It's extreme, one of their biggest losses ever ever and
the biggest loss for I don't know, six or seven.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Years with the scandals, they've had things, but as far
as performances go.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
And there's some confused messages. Am I reading right out there?
At West Coast Adam Simpson? They said he's going to
take three months off in the off season and he's
come back and said no, why because it's important period
for the track. He won't be there next year, Brent,
no way will be there? Really see you don't think?

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Well, I can see.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
The Adam Simpson's not there for the rebuild.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Why not they as a premiership coach, he's had a
list of injuries as long as his arm. Why not
give him a chance to rebuild. He's been there a
long time. I know that, but I don't know. I
wouldn't be upset if you went on.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
I think he's been a terrific coach. But I think
for all parties, I think it's time that they made
a decision and Adam Simpson's Adam Simpson. If he wants to,
we'll get a coaching job next year.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
He's got the backing of the chairman.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Highly regarded. I just think I don't know unless there's
some things going at play and his family you know,
those things comes into consideration too, doesn't it, because you've
got to upbreak your family and those sorts of things,
and then they're at school and have some strong relationships
and those sorts of things forged over there, so it
becomes not just an Adam Simson decision. But I'd be

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staggered if he's there next year.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
You've got to have the briefest, briefest of chats with
him last weekend and I did say, hey, going in
He said, hanging in there, but he said pretty flat
when he said that.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
He looks flat though, brand can't you see that his
body language?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
I think it's taken an incredible toll on him. He's
been there a long time, incredibly successful coach, a premiership coach, That's.

Speaker 9 (51:34):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Has everyone mean too hard on the bloke. He's been
so successful since he's been at the club, and he
has a couple.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Of I'm just talking about. I think it's come at
that point in time where for both parties a separation
would work really well.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Let's whip through the final games of the round tomorrow
Richmond and Port at the MCJ. This takes on extra
significance with Damian Harwick leaving Andrew McWalter takes the reins
at the Tigers and you often see coach leaves wins Brownie.
It's a danger game for Port.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
It is a danger game. I'm going to go for
Port to win this one though. I was enormously impressed
with them last Friday night when they've got the job
done against Melbourne and has been so much commentary about
Rosie and but as I think Finlayson has been a
very underrated recruit for them. Pow Pepper's playing some good
footy up forward lice that just needs to compete very
hard for them in the ruck. That's one of my

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concerns for Port Adelaide if they're going to be a
top four team. I think Richmond will respond and there'll
be a spirited effort, but I'll go for Port Adelaide.
Collingwood North Melbourne can anyone stop the Juggernauts. North Melbourne
won't this week.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
They'll win easy conly with They've got West Coast the
week after flying the Magpies and more understeal Side Bottom
three hundred, Mason Cox one hundred. Two very good stories
for two very different reasons there and probably the game
of the rounds.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
The last one Rismond Craze for mine at home.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
I agree that they're going to start outsiders with the bookies,
but a big, big danger game for the Lions.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
They look better, don't they do they Phil forpe Walker,
Warrell all coming back into that team in Middlely Brisbane,
get Garner and richback, but Adelaide at home. I think
very nice.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
That's our wrap of the upcoming round of AFL Round
eleven for twenty twenty three. Stick with us. We're going
to switch our focus to the Olympics next with Australian
Olympic Committee President Ian Chessman. Are very proud Tasmani and
joins us on the line to have a chat about
all things Paris twenty twenty four. That's after this on
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Speaker 6 (53:32):
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Speaker 4 (53:35):
Thanks to Tasmack, your local Kombota dealer. It is the
water Boys with Brent Costello and Cam Brown this Saturday morning,
May twenty seven, twenty twenty three. Our next guest has
had a very interesting career. He's been shep division for
six Winter Olympic Games and also the Tokyo Games a
couple of years ago and now is the President of

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the Australian Olympic Committee after a place in the long
standing John Coates short time ago and Chessaman is his name,
and he's joining us on the water Boys this morning.

Speaker 11 (54:03):
Get I a well okay again.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
We're going well, thank you. Now, this isn't your first
time on the show. I've had you on Talking Target before,
but now you find yourself in this unbelievably high power position, mate,
one of the most powerful people in Australian sport. Now
is it all sort of sunk in what you're doing?

Speaker 11 (54:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (54:21):
I think it's really exciting time to be involved in
a big movement to me, someone who's had absolute passion
for sport, for Olympic sports, for athletes, creating opportunities for athletes.
And we've got this amazing runway now of Brisbane twenty
thirty two. So it's an absolutely fantastic time to be involved.
And I'm very, very fortunate to be in a situation

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where I can hopefully make a good contribution to a
whole lot of things between now and Bristain twenty thirty two.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
As I said, your chef the mission for a number
of Winter Games in Tokyo. Obviously, how did that all
come about? For your suppose just tell us about the
leading and then was becoming the president something that was
in the back of your And obviously John Coates names
anonymous with the Australian Olympic team, that's for sure. So
just give us a bit of the background behind your
rosse to this position.

Speaker 10 (55:09):
It's been involved for a long time in Olympic sport.
I first got involved used to run skiing back in
the days when sport was very very amateur, were just
coming off the kitchen table administration really and got involved
in winter sports. Fortunate enough, made a guy called Jeff
Henkey who was a chef the mission of the Winter
team at that time, and he's been a fantastic mentor
of mine across all these decades. So I started getting

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working with the Olympic teams and Winter Olympic teams. Two
thousand and one I was fortunate enough to be elected
onto the board of the Australimia Committee. Twenty sixteen, I
became vice president of Australian Big Committee and then I
had a fantastic opportunity under extraordinary circumstances to take the
team away to Tokyo, which introduced me to a whole

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lot of summer sports in a real and meaningful way.
And when John stepped side as vice president, and there's
sort of one of I suppose the youngest really of
the next generation of leaders, I put my hand up
for the job and was fortunate enough to gain the
support of the sports to see me into the presidency.

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So as it said, that starts a fantastic opportunity to
be involved with someone like me who's just passionate about
working with sports and with athletes. And you know, the
Opic movement has so many spheres of influence, and increasingly
so because of Britain twenty thirty two. So I'm a
lucky person to be doing what I do.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
And you mentioned twenty thirty two a few times now
in some of your commentary, and it seems like a
fair way away. But I'm sure a lot of planning
strategically already gone into that particular event. And can you
bring us up to speed? I guess with you know
where some of the goals and I guess what you're
trying to do in the build up to twenty three two.

Speaker 10 (57:01):
Yeah, Bristain twenty thirty two is a new model for
the Olympic Games. Brinesss mean it's spread out across three
main areas, the Sunshine Coase, Brisbane itself and the Gold Coast.
So it's a new model for the IOC. Did you
have to be a mega city to host that? You
think of the last few hosts you've had London, You've

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had Beijing, London, Rio, Takio. Next one's Paris, next one's
la So they came back to a town Brisbane, obviously
a great city, but a much smaller city. So it's
a new model and I think the IOC is really
looking forward to Brisbane doing a great job and showcasing

(57:44):
to the rest of the world. You don't need to
be a mega city to host the Games, and Brisbane
is also fortunate and we'll have great cooperation at all levels.
So you've got the Mobile government, the state government and
the fedral government all on the same page wanting to
make the games work. It's an exciting time, you know,
using wherever possible. The ISS has got this thing called

(58:05):
the New Norm, which means you try and fit games
into a city, you don't try and change the city
to host the games. Too much. So if you don't
need any venues, you don't build any venues. Wherever possible,
you should use venues and say something like the opening
ceremony in Britain will fit into the biggest stadium there,

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which will be the redeveloped Gather, but that will be
have fifty thousand city said stadium, where we're not being
asked to build one hundred seed stadium. Just one hundred
thousand people can go to the opening ceremony. So it's
I think it's a really great opportunity for Brisbane and
Queensland and Australia to do a great job. And I

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think it's also so exciting for so many athletes in
Australia who are both of us who are old enough
remember Sydney inspired so many And I'm sure we'll see
the athletes right around this country have an extra you know,
spring in their step because there's a squad opportunity, once
in a generation, opportunity to compet to the home games.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
And something is a lot closer than twenty thirty two
is the Olympic Games next year in Paris, and obviously
being a local sports show where we're very attached and
interested in the potential Tasmanian contingent it and Paris. Can
you bring us up the speed about where you think
that the likely athletes will be involved from the state.

Speaker 10 (59:32):
Yeah, well you put me on the spot there a bit.
You know, Tavani has had a terrific record in representation
at Olympic Games. In one sport which I know is
going to be you got three young not young actually
you got three athletes in the team hockey team the
cooker bars and you know, got Eddie Khan leading the

(59:55):
way there, you got Josh Betts, Jack Welsh, would be
three athletes would all be really hopeful of making the
Paris team.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:00:05):
The other sports, you've got Stey McSwain obviously in track
and field to be up there again. And you know
he's come off a bit of a rough crud after Tokyo,
but he's sharing great form again. So then there's you know,
you've got the triathlete, a yet good friend of Ed

(01:00:28):
Rivers's either lost his first name, Blake Bert Weissell, thank you,
thank you, and so Jakes another one you know who
hopefully is back and grateful and hitting qualifying for the Games.
But at the moment we're in that stage where everybody's
out there qualifying, so everybody's still got hope in their
hearts at the moment, and we're very hopeful that we'll

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have an overall team size around about four fifty four
to sixty. We took four eighty six to Tokyo and
so we're hopeful of having a big sided game to
take over to Paris. And I think Paris is going
to be fantastic for the Olympics because you know, one,
it's a great city if one wants to go out
of Paris anyway. But I think after take and take you,

(01:01:11):
I did a fantastic job. But they were very different
games obviously run through COVID, running basically with our crowds
and mums and dads and fans couldn't be there to
cheer on athletes. So everybody would be really looking forward
to having that sort of extra leminal support in Paris
and noise of the crowd and being in that fantastic city.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Absolutely, and testament is our guest on the water Boys
this morning. The Australian Olympic Committee President, you mentioned some
Stadia stuff there with the Gabba and of you had
taken much interest in the Hobart Stadium, chit chat and
do you have you have a I guess an opinion
on that and has money's IFL push.

Speaker 10 (01:01:52):
I'm a big AFL fan, so I think AFL has
done a fantastic job to get get the team here,
to get in a stadium here, if that's what's required
to have the team here. So from our point of view,
you know, we'd love to see lots of sports a
civilities built around the state. But we know that AFL

(01:02:12):
is a powerhouse and can bring great change down to here.
We're for all sports development. We'd certainly love to see
more development for our sports. You know, if you're a
basketball player at the moment, it's hard to even find
a spot you know for your kid to play basketball
around the country at the moment. Is that popular. So
we'll see, hopefully we can have other infrastructure built along

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the way. But I think Chady is a football state
and it's fantastic for Tasmania to have that position as
with a team in the national competition.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Absolutely, Now before that you go out, you're a proud
test mining. Does this job allow you to spend a
lot of time at home? I know you have a
busy twelve months ahead going to Paris et cetera. But
can you base yourself here and do the job?

Speaker 7 (01:02:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:02:58):
Absolutely, I love having home. Walking off the plane here
in Montesters across the town next saying Ben Roman in
the background. Yeah, I'm traveling probably two hundred children thirty
days a year, Asues did children thirty days a year Twevel.
So it's a lot. But I love coming home. We
live in such a beautiful part of the world and
we will sit up here to be able to do

(01:03:21):
these sorts of jobs with lots of direct flights, and
they belly, they move around, and then you've got the
fantastic chance to come back and live in this beautiful land.
So I'm very happy here and we'll be looking forward
to hopefully doing this job for a few more eaars
based out for here.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Absolutely. Well mate, it's fantastic to say Tasi mining in
the role. It's such an important job and we're glad
you are in it. Thanks so much for your time
on the water boys this morning, and all the best
for a busy twelve months ahead.

Speaker 10 (01:03:51):
Really appreciate it. Yeah, it's rue on all the Ausite
team into Paris and beyond.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Thanks very much. That's chest I've been joining us on
the water Boys. He is the Australian Olympic Committee President,
replacing the great John Coates who stepped down after thirty
two years in the top job. Can't wait to see
the Olympics in Paris next year and looking forward to
the end of the show as well, because we're announcing
the next winner of our good Sport Award. That is
after this on the water Boys. Doing it all thanks

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Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
Take a couple of quick ones from me before we go.
Boston Celtic's mind me Heat. It's a game six tomorrow.
Can the Heat close it out at home?

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
They should be able to shouldn't they? But as I
said off the top of the show, Boston did warn them,
don't let us win one because we will come and
Boston favorites.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
Yeah, so, which means the book is a saying they're
going to defy history and be the first team to
come back from three Neil on the playoff series.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Absolutely no.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
The other one to Ae Posteraco. Could he coach Tottenham?
I read where Robbie Slater has said he seriously consider.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
This pretty good? Wouldn't it if he did? I think
it'd be awesome? So we'll wait and see on that. Hey,
you want to give a shout to the boxing tonight
at Hobart City Hall. Bo the Goods Woods is the
main event, so looking forward to seeing him in action.
We've got a big card, four pro fights, I think
ten ameter fights starting at six point thirty. So get
along to Hobart City Hall if you want to see
some big time boxing tonight, just quickly camp to yourself.

(01:06:32):
Who do you like here? Please? Just some quick winners
Glenorchy and Lord It Out, Lord It Up, North, Lon
Cesson and the Tigers. Top of the Table Clash at
You Test starting for the second week in a row.
We're at the top of the table class.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Clara enough for a while, so I'm going to pick
the upset existant.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Okay, and you're calling this one the stafter on the
live stream. North Hobart is at home to Lon Sessteon.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
But this game will be a lot closer than people
might think. Lawn System by under twenty points.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Very nice. Clarence has the buy. That is it for
a big edition of the water Boys. So what else
is on for your weorkend? Browny much?

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
Just football? Wats the Dogs tonight? Bro's gonna yeah stagging,
isn't it? But I'm going to por liked.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Them all right? That is a big show. Thanks for
your company, and we'll do it all again next Saturday
morning with more fun and provolity here on the water Boys.
Have a great weekend, everyone,