The Waterboys - May 6th 2023

Hosts: Brent Costelloe, Cam Brown and Blair Brownless

0.00 - Hour 1 Opener

03.45 - Tasmanian AFL Licence

11.31 - Ben Beams (Former Tasmania Devils VFL Captain)

18.47 - Damian Gill (Head of AFL Tasmania)

30.47 - Jeremy Rockliff (Premier of Tasmania)

40.58 - Hour 2 Opener

42.54 - The Week That Was

49.35 - AFL Round 8

57.01 - Junior Madut (Tasmania JackJumpers Signing)

1.01.19 - Good Sport Award and Show Close

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
No matter what the spot, where it's played or the
team's behind it for We've got it.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is the water Boys, thanks to Tasmac, Devinpord, Monceston,
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
I'm proud and excited to announce the awarding of the
nineteenth license to play in the AFL and AFLW competitions
to Tasmania a nineteenth club.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Good morning everyone, Welcome to the water Boys.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
After an historic week for our beautiful state of Tasmania.
Where as you just heard, we're inducted finally into the
AFL competition from twenty twenty eight onwards. Good morning Brent
Cooslo with you alongside my team mates this morning, we
thought we'd get the band back together for such a
historic week.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Cam Brown and Blarry Brownless. What have you made of it? Boys?

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Well, you mentioned historic brand It's a momentous occasion. Wasn't
it an emotional week for a lot of people, such
as the long journey that many people are going on
waiting for an AFL team and now it's a reality
and for what many felt that announcement may probably never
happen in their lifetime.

Speaker 6 (01:12):
What about yourself? Blair.

Speaker 7 (01:13):
Yeah, I loved it, absolutely loved there as long time coming,
as you said, Brownie, and it.

Speaker 8 (01:18):
Just gives such aspiration to everyone.

Speaker 7 (01:20):
If you're a young kid, you're aspirational now that you
can play AFL and for us older generation, you know,
it's so exciting to see that we finally have an
AFL team.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Glary says he loved it. He loved being on media Street.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Got stuck into me last week about being everywhere. Well,
goodness gracious, Well, we'll get stuck into that shortly because
we'll go through what's been a big week in the
first sement of the show, bart Brownie some overnight scores
before we move on.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yeah, no good for the Blues last night, Breno Carlton
eleven eight seventy four defeated by Brisbane fifteen ten one hundred,
Charlie Cameron Zach Bailey each with four goals for the winners.
Now two games in the NRL last night, the Bulldogs
thirty fitted by the Raiders thirty four. Camra move up
to sixth place with that win, and Manly six were
defeated by the Broncos thirty two, So the Bronco is

(02:08):
sitting pretty on top of the NRAL Ladder and one
match in the A League last night Adelaide two Wellington
Phoenix Neil and Craig Goodwin with two goals. Adelaide move
up to third with that result.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Brent very nicely done. A big show ahead this morning.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
As I said, we're divoting a lot of it to
the AFL license BB runners through the first hour please.

Speaker 7 (02:27):
Well, we've got the big guests coming in the first
hour here Brendo and just on that NRL games too, Cameron.
That was Magic Round. That's their version of Gather Round
all in Queensland. So that's very interesting to see how
that goes. But in the first hour Ben Beams, the
former Tasmanian Devils captain Melbourne player played in the two
thousand Grand Final.

Speaker 8 (02:48):
I guess yes.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
Then Beama will be in Damian Gil the head of
the AFL. He's up and about this week of course
with the big announcement, but there's also news about the
TESSL that will unpack and our favorite premiere of all time,
Jeremy Rockcliffe.

Speaker 8 (03:04):
We'll be talking to him. He got the job done.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
It was started by Peter Gupwin and he just continued
and got the job done.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
He did a lot of people worried when he slid
into the role, but he has done it seamlessly. Jeremy
Rockliffe don't worry about that. Look forward to talking to
him later in the show.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
This morning, an.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Hour two, we're going to look back at the week
that was. Normally we start with this because it's such
a big week, we pushed it back into our number two.
This morning, we'll look at AFL round eight, the game
last night, and what's to come for the rest of
the weekend. Junior too will join us the tas Money
a jack Jumper's news signing as well, and we'll have
the next winner of our Good Sport Award to wind
up the show.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
That's all the head for you this morning here on the.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
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Speaker 3 (03:49):
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Speaker 4 (03:51):
It is the water Boys with Brent Costello, Blair Brownless
and Cam Brown This morning, we're all here after a
massive week for Tasmoni Sport. Finally, some said it would
never happen, but here we are with an AFL license
ready to rock and roll in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
Cam Brown, Yeah, we do. Brenda goes back a long time,
doesn't it.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
You know, it goes back all the way nearly fifty
years ago when Bob Cheek first advocated for it as
a Mercury journalist, as we know, went on to be
a politician in Tasmania. And some of us have been
there the historic day back in nineteen ninety when Tasmania
defeated Victoria. But this has been a really orchestrated, well
planned submission to the AFL, hasn't And I think on

(04:34):
the back of the Steering Committee and then the task force,
it just felt different this time. It was probably a
little bit wobbly for a few weeks, didn't we when
we didn't hear a lot out of the AFL going
back a few months ago, Blearry.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
But it's exciting things well, it's.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
Been well organized this whole campaign. Hadn't that because we've
had the crack as you see it, over the years,
and we've put forward various proposals. And I'll tell you what, Brownie.
You recall when Andrew Demetrio was CEO, he said the
Tasmania will never get a team under his watch. So
when Gil came on as CEO, there was some chance

(05:07):
there and full credit to Gil, he stayed the journey
until this announcement and then he announced his retirement plan,
so that was absolutely huge. But full credit to Peter Gutwin,
the former premier. He just said, no, we've had enough
of North Melbourne and Hawthorne. They've been fantastic for the state.
We've had enough. We won our own team, put together

(05:27):
all the business plans, like you said, and then Jermy
Rockcliffe just took the bat and ran with it as well.
So what's the end result not only an AFL team,
but we've got a magnificent new stadium there at Macpoint.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Absolutely and your point about Peter Gutlin is well made
and Breno, you were very close to this, didn't do
you think that was a real line in the sand
moment when it was like standing up to the AFL
as Blair said, and obviously we're not going to tolerate
this in the future of North Melbourne and Hawthorne and
funding for them. He's going to be put on holding too.

(06:00):
Give us a team. How critical was that do you think?

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Without a doubt?

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Boys, I'm telling you right now, we would not be
where we are right now today if it was not
for Peter Gutwin.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
And that's why he.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Will need to be and will become, in my opinion,
the very first chairman slash president of this football club
because he knows how to stand up and fight for Tasmania.
And that's what we saw even during COVID he was
pushing for this. A lot of people said that's it.
Tassy's lost its chance now during the pandemic, not Peter
gut when he stood firm and negotiated perfectly with the AFL.

(06:32):
And that's why we are here where we are today.
And Gilan McLaughlin as well, don't forget that. I feel
like he, as you say, Blarry was always wanted to
see this happen.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
He thought it was the right thing to do.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Was the only chief executive that really gave us that
chance and really the stars of a line for us, because.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Gil needed to be on board for this to happen.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Gutwyn slash Rockcliffe then to be on board to make
this happen. And it's all alined beautifully for us, don't
you think camp it is.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
It's rare that Tas may you as front and center
on the media street and media stage because we saw
so much of it during the week, you front page
headlines and leading out of news stories and the like.
But I suppose I've got a question for you too
as well, without notice and so much media saturation during
the week, which was fantastic. But the stadium, which we

(07:19):
know is going to be built, how do you both
feel if it's not built by the time Tazzy enter
the AFL team, is it worth waiting? Do you think
so the very first time we run out is in
our new stadium or you're not too fust if you
know for the first year or two they're playing out
of I guess Blunston and what we used to call

(07:40):
your park, Brint.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Look, I've been swinging around on this one.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I saw Jered Weighty went pretty big on it on
three point sixty last week, and so we should wait
and have one big launch. But I think we just
got to get in as quick as we can. It's
going to be magnificent. And then you get two launches
as well. We get to launch the team at Blunted
and New Tas. Then you get another launch a couple
of years later or a year later with a new stadium.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
So I think that's the way to go, as.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Nice as it would be to all align, I think
the stadium might take a little longer than we anticipated,
I'd imagine once they start building it, So Blair, I'm
not sure what you think, but that's my opinion.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
Now I'm exactly the same because I think we'll be
ready for the team. We're not rushing into this, but
it's not like GWS and the Gold Coast where those
franchise got up and running straight away.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Will be.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
We've got three or four years to prepare for our team.
And then yeah, let's just use the current stadiums we've
got Blunston and Utah Stadium. We'll go with those and
a couple of games out of there if we need,
and then when the stadium comes available, probably twenty twenty
nine or so, I think they move into there, and
as you said, Brent, you can have a couple of
launches there, but I think we could easily go. Twenty

(08:50):
twenty seven or twenty twenty eight is probably the year
that we will enter the AFL competition. So that's all
exciting and I would not wait around for the stadium.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Know is that we're going to have lots and lots
to talk about over the next year.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Boys on this show.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
There's so many different angles and stories that will come
out of this list management, recruitment of staff and players, etc.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
We've got no shortage of things to do. But Brownie,
you mentioned media street there.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
Now.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Blair brown has got stuck into me last week for
being story about the stage. Well, a few different articles
across the place, and I got right into my face. Well,
I dug up this audio from during the week and
this was me of many many media appearances for Blair
Brownless during the week.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Blair Brownless, Yes, that's the brother of Billy. He runs
the pavilion at Salamanca.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
It's sports bar, one of the many local businesses already
celebrating a goal.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
To have a world class stadium like five hundred meters away.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
It's going to be outstanding for business.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
We've all dreamt of this for so many years and
finally it's come through.

Speaker 8 (09:50):
We've got our own tazy team, fair.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Little bit ordinary.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Come back there to the question, I thought he could
have gone a little bit more in depth with your answer.

Speaker 8 (09:57):
But he cut me off.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
As you know, on the they interview you for about
six or seven minutes and you get one sentence and
you know that better than anyone.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
That's why you've got to use your best stuff there.
You don't come out with a boring Monday and answer
like that. You come up with something creating, right, And
that was as I say, that was that's only the
st Yes, that was nine News and you had Today's show,
So I tee that.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
Up for you and today's show.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, through sixty I heard you. The premieer was
name dropping you on there. You just walk around the
bobblehead on all week.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
It was funny because I was actually at the pav
and we had the sound on and we're watching AFL
three sixty and the question from Robboe was to the premiere,
Oh how did you celebrate afterwards? Did you have a
quite a little drink or two? And in my mind
I'm saying, please mention the PAVI and.

Speaker 8 (10:47):
He didn't mean that.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
He mentioned you prefer quite honestly.

Speaker 9 (10:52):
And then he went to script, Brownie, everything went to
the script. That little note I left, He got that
out of his pocket, and that's I got a bit
of a shock there here. And that's obviously, the Premier
and I are pretty tight, as we'll find out later
in the show here.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Ah, yes we will indeed, As I said, we've got
a big show devoted to the license this morning.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
The Premiere isn't too far away.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Damian Gil, the head of AFL Tasmania too later this hour.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
But up next we're going to go and.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Wind the clock back to the Tasmania Devil's days when
their former captain Ben Beams joins us to talk about
a big week in Tasmani and footy.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
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Speaker 4 (11:37):
It's the water Boys with brentcos Elo, Blair Brownless and
Cam Brown for your Saturday morning. And this man joins
us now who's been a big part of Tasmanian.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Football for a long time.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
He went off and played footy for the Melbourne Footy
Club for a number of years, played in the two
thousand and Grand Final of course for the D's and
then came back and captained his home state in the VFL.
The Tasmania Devils of course, and that's what we've got
him on for to talk about today. A bit of
the parts, a bit of the future. I speak of
the great Ben Boams cod I Bomer.

Speaker 10 (12:02):
How are you morning, boys? Wonderful?

Speaker 7 (12:06):
What a week?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Absolutely mate? How did you feel?

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Where were you when you heard the news come through officially?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
And did you have a little tear in your eye?

Speaker 10 (12:16):
I did, actually had a few messages from a few
old footy mates and I was sitting on the couch
having a beer and yeah, the eyes started to well
up when I was watching three sixty on Fox Fell
the other night and it said Gil was on his
way down. So what a wonderful week in moment of
Tasmanian footing.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Did you ever think this would happen?

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Bomber in your You know, honestly, I think a lot
of people thought I'd never seen in their lifetime.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
What did you honestly think?

Speaker 11 (12:48):
Now?

Speaker 10 (12:49):
I was the same. I never never ever dreamed of
of this happening. I'd always hoped that it had happened
in my lifetime. But it happened so soon. When you know, hopefully,
you know we're going to be still around to see it.
You know, it's happened so quick, and it's just a
credit to the government, you know, the former Premier Pleader

(13:12):
government for being so you know, I've dogged any idios
belief that it could happen. And obviously the AFL it's
a massive industry and people don't understand how how big
this is going to be for you know, not only
the football but Tasmania in general. It's the biggest thing
that happen for years. So yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
It is amazing, man, And you've had a little taste
of it, and during your Devil's career in the VFL
competition just took us through some of that, like the
big moments when you played that there was a big final,
a blunts and arena there, you had ten thousand there
and just that whole pride about representing your state.

Speaker 10 (13:49):
Yeah it well, basically say my football career players individually.
You know, I was a bit disillusioned when you know,
when you're a big, tight player and on the engine
AFL level it could be a bit a bit training
and you know, I even Condra played a given footy away.
But the fact that we had the tazzy Devil's VFL
team and I could still play at that second tier

(14:11):
level and from the state every week. You know, it
was just amazing. And you guys all seen the crowds
we used to get. I mean I remember some days
at North Hobart where on a Saturday afternoon we did
six thousand people there just for a roster game, and
just the atmosphere and the people that were behind it
was just amazing. I mean, we still talk about it,

(14:33):
and hopefully we'll catch up with some reunions still with
those boys, and we love talking about those days.

Speaker 11 (14:39):
It was.

Speaker 10 (14:40):
It was a great time in Tazzy Puddy. And what
a surprise is the structure is going to be exactly
what that was, you know back then, so I could
only see all positives from here on.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
Yeah, what are your thoughts on the jump out? Actually
been mate, because you wear the map of Tazzy in
state games proudly, but the Devils had a different design,
didn't It wasn't actually the map.

Speaker 10 (15:02):
Yeah, we're quite proud of it. A jumper and it
was quite unique. And I've seen some photos of a
flash apples and social media and that now to bring
them back memories. But yeah, I'm still on the fence, boys.
I don't know whether we should be wearing the map
every week, you know, maybe in the heritage round and
stuff like that, or a little map on there somewhere,

(15:23):
but yeah, that's that's for the pals to be and
obviously it's going to be. It's great that the debates
already started about it in our team song and the
jumpers already.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
It's awesome, Boomer, it's Brownie here. Can you can you
take us back a little bit?

Speaker 5 (15:38):
I guess from when you were drafted out of glen
Orky and going across to Melbourne, things were very different
then in terms of you know, they probably wasn't the
player welfare structure and support behind players in the move.
But if you were to be drafted now on the
potential to play for Tasmania, how different do you think
that's going to be for a potential young draftd now?

Speaker 10 (15:59):
Oh, it just for one that gives you the ability
to you know, not have to move away.

Speaker 11 (16:07):
I was.

Speaker 10 (16:09):
I went away. I was on sixteen thousand in my
first year at Melbourne, had to work as a laborer
and was training twice a day, you know, the same
as the Swartzers and the Natures and the Gary Lions.
And these guys, you know, try trying to make your
way and get your knees in it. And it was
back in those days there wasn't the support, you know.

(16:29):
I was just thrown into a house with a woman,
not in all that sort of stuff that will play
a welfare and stuff that's around now and the plans
they've got in place to make Tasmania a lot of
competitive from the start as well. But yeah, if I
was a young kid now eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve thirteen,
I'll be picking up a football and yeah, honing my

(16:51):
skills and doing the best I could to be a
part of it.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
I reckon and Boomy, do you think that we might
have got the structure right finally with an AFL team
a VFL team underpinning that obviously the demise of the
TSL now in the last twenty four hours post twenty.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
Twenty four But is the pathway about right and how
it sits from where your perspective is, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (17:17):
From my point of view, it is And I can
understand the long set the two long sests and teams
and obviously Sam Brady come out and was disappointed. Those
clubs have worked really hard and they're just in a
difficult situation with the whole scheme of things at the moment.
But I mean, from a holistic view, I believe it's
the best structure. I've banged on about it for anyone

(17:40):
there to listen to me over the last few or
ten fifteen years, that we need to get back to
that structure, get some parochialism back into the local footage.
People don't like traveling. You look at all the boys
playing and the old scholars and particularly some virgils at
the moment, excellent orchy players that probably could have strung
their careers out for a bit more, but with family work,

(18:01):
that sort of commitment and traveling up north and stuff
like that. I mean, a demise of the state wide
was really when we lost the northwest coast and we
didn't have Bernie and Devenport involved. It sort of lost
its way then in my opinion. But yeah, I think
the structure is going to be right Brownie, Yeah, it
would definitely be the way to go.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Well, you've been a big part of Tasmanian footy for
a long time and I'm sure you'd be a big
part of it moving forward as we move into an
exciting new Era. Thanks so much for your time this morning, mate,
and enjoy everything.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
That's to come.

Speaker 10 (18:31):
Not a problem boys, enjoy your weekend.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Ben Beams there joining us former Tasmania Devil's captain on
the water Boys this morning.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Big show we've got lined up this morning. It's not
about that.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Up next, we talked to the head of AFL Tasmania
at Damian Gill on the water Boys doing.

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Speaker 4 (18:54):
Brent Coosslo, Cam Brown and Blair Brownless with you this
morning and we're continuing at the footy tour after what's
been an enormous week and one man that's been in
the thick of it is the head of AFL Tasne,
Damian Gil, who joins us on the water Boys this morning.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Gilly, what a week for you. It's Spain.

Speaker 12 (19:11):
How are you morning, Breno, Cam and Blair. Yeah, incredible
week for Tasmania, a week that will go down in
history and I think still as Tasmanian's we're probably under
estimating how much this is going to change our Island home.
It's just enormous, quite overwhelming and bring it on.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Do you think people understand what this will do for
Tasmanian football. I mean, we'll get to the TSL stuff shortly,
but this is just going to change the way we
think and look and love footy, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (19:45):
Well, that's just deep bern. I think like for a
long time we've got above our wake division, even despite
the fact that we aren't represented and we were where
we belonged, and we didn't have that aspirational pathway all
the way through to the A and L and wish
you all made a decent fist of it. And I
think what that does now is every boy and girl

(20:05):
that comes through can concede themselves and believe that they
can get there. And I think what that will do,
I'm very confident from a participation standpoint, it opens the
door for us to really run through it and drive
participation right across the state. Get more footage in more kids,
hands go harder in schools, get os kicked, really really

(20:26):
pumping across the state, more participation programs. The opportunity there
is enormous, and then the flow on from having more
people involved in the game right across every fact that
means our community clubs will be stronger, they'll be more
relevant in their community than ever before. And the end
product that that is what we'll have an AFL team
to all cheer for and get behind and it'll be

(20:47):
a beacon of pride for the state. So there's so
many factors where this will change footy, it will change
our state, it will change what it means but to
be Tasmanian and I'm so proud of the week that
we've just had. And yeah, as I say, I just
can't wait. Five years feels like a long time, but

(21:09):
I think it will be here before we know it.
And the hard work starts now. But it's good hard
work to get into because it's all about setting up
this Tasmania team success.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
Absolutely, Gilly, We're all very excited as you are. But
some of the funding that we'll get from this announcement,
we're not only a team and a stadium, but the
tas government sixty million dollars for a high performance center
and I'm hearing that little bit. Cornelian Bay two hundred
and ten million dollars for base funding, ninety million dollars

(21:39):
for game development and thirty three million dollars for the
talent academies. The flow on effects of that sort of funding,
that high level of funding here in this state will
be absolutely amazing.

Speaker 12 (21:52):
Oh no question. It takes us to levels we've not
seen before. And that's where we have to open our mind,
as Tasmanian, to actually think about the possibilities, because unfortunately,
up until now we've had to sort of limit ourselves
and the AFLs felt like a long way away, but
it's real now, and now we have to set ourselves

(22:13):
up to not just come into a competition.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
But really compete.

Speaker 12 (22:15):
And that infrastructure is really important, not just at the
elite level. We're going to go really hard and improving
community infrastructure right across the state, will put plans in
place with councils to really drive that up because we want,
as I said, we want to increase participation with that.
Community infrastructure is important. The talent academies will be vitally important.

(22:38):
We start working with kids earlier around the fundamentals and
make sure that we're you know, we've got the elite
kids coming through because our thirteen is and fourteen year
olds and today may be in our first draft when
they're running out for Tasmania, so we've got to get
onto that. And yeah, the funding around participation programs and

(22:58):
basically getting more staff, more people out there rolling footage,
helping clubs deal with the demand that I think is
set to come. That's phenomenal and it'll just yeah, as
I say, it will fill the bucket right across the state,
which is what we need is a footage state.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
I'm hearing. The first step forward is board of management actually,
and the first stage in this will be a boyd.
The management to will include Tasmanians and also AFL representatives.
Is that stage one?

Speaker 12 (23:27):
I believe the stage one is around the board. Yeah,
and that's all to be worked through.

Speaker 10 (23:32):
I think when you're.

Speaker 12 (23:34):
There on Wednesday and you hear great news straight away,
your mind starts to go to all the questions and
all the things that have to be done. But I
think it isn't that a great thing that we're now
pivoting to. Okay, who's going to be coaching?

Speaker 6 (23:48):
What do we call?

Speaker 12 (23:49):
What's the song?

Speaker 10 (23:50):
What are the colors?

Speaker 12 (23:51):
All that sort of stuff, And yeah, it starts with
a board, but there'll be a detailed workplan that is
worked through and then we've got to get on with it,
set up this team for success because I'm probably like
you guys, were fought for near on forty years to
get a team in this competition. We don't want to
come in and just make up the numbers.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
We've got to be ready to roll, Damie.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
One of the I guess the consequential decisions out of
the great news during the week with the AFL Tasmanian
team is the announcement yesterday that came out from AFL Tasmania,
in particular the TSL and their notification of the club
presidents that their license agreement will only be in place
until the end of the twenty twenty four season and

(24:33):
won't be extended, so clubs will now go into regions,
which to me makes common sense, but I read with
interest there's been some strong pushback, in particular from the
north of the state and Thane Brady and North LN Syston.
Any response and vision of what you think you'll be
doing with the northern.

Speaker 12 (24:50):
Clubs, Yeah, it's obviously we all talk about being a
great week, but the change is tricky. With a change,
I think naturally people look at what they lose rather
than what they gain. And we've had seven conversations that
were all seven really different conversations to be honest with

(25:12):
the clubs, and they're in different spots and different lines
of thinking of what comes next. And I just want
to say I have so much respect for North Long
Teston and what they've built, and I completely see their perspective.
Ours or Tasmania. We've got to think of the totality
of footy in the whole ecosystem. But I'm really mindful

(25:36):
and I said this all clubs and I'll continue to
We're not coming in with a preconceived full model ready
to go deliberately because we want to work with the
clubs and the league and make sure we nail this
and that twenty twenty four time period gives us time
to work.

Speaker 11 (25:51):
Through it properly.

Speaker 12 (25:52):
We get one chance to have a genuine refresh on
Tazzi footy and set it up in a way where
it will be really thriving. And part of that is
having three strong football regions and we're incredibly committed to that.
And I think part of that also is not just
having seven seven clubs at a strong level below the

(26:16):
VFL to support the VFL, actually trying to elevate more
clubs and have a really strong community base that can
then support VFL and VFLW competitions. Ultimately, decisions like those
a fly on impacts of a new model gave and
AFL team and VFL team come into the state. It
does change the dynamics. But as I say, we want

(26:39):
to work with clubs and leagues on where he's the
best model below that to support those teams and competitions.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
And before we let you go, you and I have
spoken for years about our frustration of I guess really
talented under eighteen Tasmanian Football or two for whatever reason
aren't quite There's a few aspects of the game that
don't allow them to be drafted, so they make the
decision to move into state. John Menzi is a classic example,
Robbie Fox, Ben Brown, there are others. The decision for

(27:08):
Tasmania to have a VFL team aspirationally, you'd be hoping
that would alleviate that very scenario. Would I be right
in saying, in other words, they stay if they don't
get drafted, they would stay in a VFL team, or
if they're predominantly playing well for the Devils. When this
is up and running rather than going back and play
regional footage, they'll go and play VFL, as we see

(27:30):
with some teams going around and prominent players playing the nephil.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
So would I be right in saying.

Speaker 12 (27:35):
That, oh, one hundred current some numbers? The other day,
we've got nearly forty senior male players playing in sample
waffle VFL and that frustrates me no end And it's
just because we haven't had that top piece on the
pathway that gives them what they need to stay in
the state. I think where we'll go to now is

(27:56):
work more aspirational players in our state than ever before,
and I think we'll see some of those players come back.
But I actually think we also might seek them into
stat as go well, I don't mind a look at
Taggy in. There may be an option there for me
to get myself into the frame around an AFL team.
So I'm really bullish about that. Like, let's be honest,

(28:17):
an AFL team completely changes the game when it comes
to aspiration in our state for our players. Anyone can
dream from any corner of our state now that they
can make it, and that's that's just a complete game changer.
It completely changes the whole landscape for footing. So yeah,
we've got to move with it. We've got to set
it up in a way that really works, and we've

(28:39):
got to set it up with in a way where
there's queer pathway, sustainable pathways, and we're a sport of
choice because you know, it's easy to come and play,
it's fun to come and play, and you can reach
your dreams at an AFL level.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Just a couple of quick ones from me before we
let you go, Gillie, Should this messaging have come out
of you guys first, yes, rather than the clubs. Should
you have been on the front foot with the TSL announcement.

Speaker 12 (29:05):
It's an interesting opinion. I think the reason that transpires
the way it is is because we prioritize actually working
meaningfully with the clubs and talking to them. I mean,
the media release comes out. When the media release comes out,
it's more important to me to have seven genuine conversations
with the clubs and this is their competition, so them

(29:28):
lending their voice to it first, it sits okay with
me at the end of the day. I see your point.
But at the end of the day, we are where
we are, and for me, it's about how we work
with the clubs from.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Here and is there a chance this season will be
the last of the TESL. I know who spoke about
having that extra timeframe to get things organized for next year.
But if the clubs don't see a point of having
a competition next year because it is going to end anyway,
would you consider this being the last year potentially?

Speaker 12 (29:56):
Certainly not our ambition. I think that time to work
all for the wholeful four landscape is really important and
consistently through conversations with clubs it feels like they're certainly
committed to twenty twenty four and I think that's a
healthy team.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Very nice.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Well, it's been a big week for you and we
really appreciate you giving up your time for us on
the water Boys this morning. Hopefully you can take a
day off next week potentially now you've you've got through this,
but appreciate it's on this morning.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Damian gil from AFL Tasmania.

Speaker 12 (30:26):
Now the hard work only starts now, BRUNEI, thanks guys.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
True.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
There he goes Damian Gill, the head of AFL Tasmania,
joining us after a big week here on the water Boys.
We've got plenty more still to come for you on
the show this morning, Don't Go Anywhere. Up next is
the Premier of Tasmania, Jeremy rockle If. He joins us
on the show after this on the water Boys. Thanks
for tas Mak your local Commota dealer. This is the
water Boys, thanks to tas Mac your local Combota dealer.

(30:54):
It is the water Boys with Brent Costlo, Cam Brown
and Blair Brownless this morning, and this man has had
one of the more unbelievable weeks. He got to deliver
the news that Tasmania would secure the nineteenth license in
the AFL. Of course, it is our premier, Jeremy Rocklef,
who's been good enough to join us on the show
this morning. Premier, as you wake up this Saturday morning,

(31:14):
how are you.

Speaker 11 (31:16):
Mate, I'm so thank so. I'm still pumped from Wednesday
to be honest. May the third will go down on
Tazy history as a significant day, not just for Footing
of course, but for all Tasmania. And you know, three
of you, as well as thousands of other people have
been campaigning for this moment, this dream, for decades to come.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
And wasn't it.

Speaker 11 (31:39):
Great to see the books on the young boys and
girls faces as we may, the announcements alongside the acting
Prime Minister. Indeed and build.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Other day fantastic stuff. It really was.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Now I want to go back to the start when
you took over his premier because a lot of people said, oh,
gutters has gone, this might fall in a heap.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Now he's led us so brilliantly.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
How much pressure did you feel at that time to
see this through and get the job done?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Given so far how far we come.

Speaker 11 (32:05):
Look, there are a lot of things that I had
to think about when I took over April last year,
and one of them on my desk, of course was
the AFL team. And got just such a great job
of you really tackling hard, going into hard in the ball,
I could put it that way. Against the AFL did
a great job, and I was there with him as definity,

(32:28):
backing him up the whole way. So I just took
his passion, his reason for it, my background at least
local community football as much as the player at all,
but administration as you know, and I grabbed the ball
and went with it. But I didn't want to lose
the momentum because I could see how important it was

(32:48):
to my predecessor, but for many many players legends of
the game previously players now and of course it's aught
about the kids from the young kids in community football.
And I felt the pressure of knowing that footy in
Tasmania was the crossroads and having an understanding of the

(33:09):
value of grassroots footy and seeing a code potentially going
south in terms of dying. That was the pressure that
I felt. And I knew the momentum around an AFL
and AFL W team part of a light tense license. Finally,
part of the mental competition was a way to reignite

(33:30):
AFL grassroots footy and until the code lasted the generation.
So I felt that pressure and you did the best
I could work alongside the AFL, pushed the boundaries, hit
funding and what I had to do to se fuel
the team.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Just on Peter Gartland premiere, I personally can't say a
better person to take on that first chairmanship or presidency
of the club.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Do you share that opinion? And how much to say
will the government have on who will that be?

Speaker 11 (34:03):
Well, we'll work with the AFL on that will have
some significant say, no doubt, and you know I understand
the importance of this role. I would asked Peter what
his feelings on us are at this particular point in time.
I have to say so it's a very important role

(34:26):
and indeed set up and the government of this is
crucial and also the connection between the Tasty team and
the community is crucial as well, and so Peter has
many great attributes. As we know it will be you know,
the chairperson, whoever it is. We'll have to go ty

(34:48):
to Taylor with other club chairmen around the country. There's
a lot of work to do the financial structure of
the game, of course, and the team, and Peter has
a lot of those skills, and of course I'm sure
there are many others that wanted to hand up as well,
but certainly you know PETA has huge future abilities and

(35:15):
the key part of where we've got to today.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Premier of Tasmania Jeremy Rockcliffe joining us on the water
Boys this morning and the Premier it's came here.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Are you frustrated at all?

Speaker 5 (35:24):
There hasn't been a guess complete political alignment between the
three major political parties with the funding commitment to a
stadium and potentially potentially I guess shifted some of the
positive narrative in the media in the build up to
the announcement and post the announcement to a Tasmanian AFL team.

Speaker 12 (35:41):
Look, I do.

Speaker 11 (35:42):
Share that frustration, and I was thinking last night I've
lost probably more skin than I'd lose in the Queenstown
putty over on the gravel with some of this challenges
and look, but it's clear though that we need to
stay to grab the team and it's been a talent.

(36:06):
I recognize that. Of course the stadium it's the multipurpose
entertainment supporting venue. It's far greater than AFL. So I'm
passionate about that protext outside of the AFL, but it
is frustrating. I would like everyone to acknowledge we've got
this far, We've got our team, and we need to
rally around and how we can secure it and make

(36:27):
it the best possible team and the most sustainable team
in the future, which is always which is why I've
supported the stadium outside of economic benefits, that's about the
sustainability of the team. Well, so yes, it's frustrating. My
call to at least the major party is that acknowledge
the fact that this is where we are. This is

(36:48):
a huge opportunity and I reckon in the heart of heart,
they would know that this is the right thing to do.
But you know that the politics of the day. But
I also point out the fact that you know it's
a tasma and liberal government and a federal labor government.
I don't mind talking politics and mixing politics and sports,
but the facts are you've got a federal governments and

(37:10):
a state government opposite size for politics coming together to
secure significant funding, which really is an investment. It's an
investment in Tasmania's future. This is and only an AFL team,
but the tradees that will leave the Bridgewater Bridge and
you've all seen it happening out coming out of the ground,
they'll move on to the stadium and that backpoint precinct

(37:30):
and that's jobs. It's money flowing through the community, circulating
that you know. I see we're spending money in small
businesses accessing services and that's money flows around and enables
us to pay for the essential services that people compare
investments too, Dadi in versus health. I spend seven million
dollars every single day on health. I never want to

(37:51):
continue doing that. And more, what's going to have economy
that's growing.

Speaker 7 (37:56):
Premier I want to take you back to Wednesday the
press conference or was at Northober Oval. You were sitting
in the change rooms. You had the at No Faber Oval. There,
you had the acting Prime Minister, you had the AFL
CEO Gil there, you had Andrew Dillon there, the next CEO,
the current two. I see, what was your role in
the change rooms there? Were you like the coaching there

(38:17):
with all those guys, and then what was the general
feel because then you ran out on the ground and
ran through the banner. What was that actual feeling like
in the change rooms there?

Speaker 11 (38:29):
Well, it's amazing. We're up looking across the oval and
it's a magnificent oval. Have to say, it's the first
time I've had that view and stand there. It's fantastic
and we're all pacing a bit. It's like we're ready
for the big game. And I felt quite nervous at
the time. And if you mentioned some key players there
around AFL acting Prime Minister, you know, I'm a spud

(38:52):
farmer cart I wouldn't have believed that I've been in
that position twenty years ago before stod in politics about
announce an AFL team. So it was quite a menification
for me. Personally in terms of soaking all that up,
so pre games is absolutely but it down to see
all the kids were about to run on the on

(39:13):
the ground following us, and that was fantastic. But they
were so excited, you know, young boys and girls, young
men and women, and see their enthusiasm. I think, what
it's all of these and said, you know, I didn't
what it's all about, and then out we went.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
It's real.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
You've you've had an amazing week that you've had one
little slip up though, which I hate to bring up,
but mentioning Blair Brownless on AFL three sixty the other
night was a huge mistake.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Thank you. We have not heard the end of it.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
So you had one little blip this week, unfortunately, apart
from everything else that's gone.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
On from the heart to heart conversation we had, didn't
we And yeah, you gave me a shout out on
the AFL three sixty. I absolutely loved it, Premier, Thank
you very much.

Speaker 11 (39:58):
I could do Blair and we can't get everything right
all the time.

Speaker 8 (40:04):
You're backtracking, Premier.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
We love your work.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Thanks very much for joining us this morning and you're
off the eggfest so we appreciate you giving up your
time for us and we all had on on the
week and everything you've done to get us an AFL license.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Thanks for your time on the water Boys, my.

Speaker 11 (40:19):
Pleasure, and thank you for everything you've done and your
passion have displayed over so many years.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Thanks very much.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
There he goes the premier Jeremy rock With joining us
on the water Boys. Following a huge week for Tasmanian
sport and that's a huge first hour of the program
this morning. We've got plenty more still to come though
for you after new Sport and where that we're going
to look at the week that was in all other sports.
There is stuff, other stuff going on, would you believe.
Also a look at round eight of the AFL basketball
with Junior but do it. The Tasmania jack Jumpers signing,

(40:48):
and we wind up the show with a look at
the Good Sport Award of course at our next winner
of that competition. That's all after New Sport and where
they're coming up for you on the water Boys thanks.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
To Tasmack, your local Kambota dealer.

Speaker 9 (40:58):
This boy.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Massive first hour of the show with some big name guests,
but we've got plenty more to come for you. Here
in extra time on the water Boys, run us through it,
please Cam Brown.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
In the second hour, Brent, we're going to be talking
the week that was now. A lot of announcements during
the week, particularly in regard to Tasmanian cricket, so we'll
cover off on all of that. We're going to preview
AFL Round eights and I think Blair some one sided
matches coming up, which three there'll be a lot of upsets.

(41:31):
We're also going to talk about Junior Madoot the Tasmanian
jack Jumpers signing, so that was a great news during
the week for the jack Jumpers. We've got the good
sport of water a whole lot more. On the second
hour of the water Boys.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
We're doing deed and before we get to all that,
brand he run us through the overnight scores players because
it was a tough night at the office again for
Carlton supporters and you saw them leave it three quarter time.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
They just got out of the joint.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
Yeah, wobbly, aren't they the Blues at the moment.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
I know they had a big win over West Coast
last week, but they would have been hoping to defeat
Brisbane last night. They've got the Dogs next week, so
it doesn't get any easier for them. But Carlton eleven
eight seventy four defeated were defeated by Brisbane fifteen ten,
one hundred and twenty six point winners the lines four
goals each to Cameron and Bailey.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
In their NRRL last night Bread it was magic round.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
The Bulldogs thirty defeated Raiders twenty thirty four and Manly
six were lost to Broncos thirty two, so they're traveling
beautifully at the moment. Brisbane Bronco is currently sitting on
top of the NROL ladder and just the one match
in the A League last night Adelaide Too Wellington Phoenix
neil So Craig Goodwin with two goals for the winners.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
As someone said on social media last night, just goes
to show how bad West Coast are at the moment
when they'd be cal't bet the by one hundred points
last week and they dished up what they dished up
last night and it says he that's a big first
hour and as I said, a big second hour coming
up the week that was is next here on the
water boys do it all.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
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Speaker 2 (42:54):
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Speaker 4 (42:57):
Thanks to Tasmack your local combota. It's the water Boys.
Brent Cosslo, Cam Brown and Blair brownless with you this morning.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Reflecting on score from the past seven days. Here's the
water Boys week or.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Wise plenty going on locally, nationally and internationally outside the
AFL license bids. So I want to get stuck into
that now with you guys before we do, though, notice
with interest during the week, as we said earlier, it's
Magic round in the NRL, so that's where all the
teams have gone to Queensland to place.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
So no NRL in New South Wales this weekend.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
What's the AFL done though? They've got no games in
New South Wales this weekend. The Giants are in Canberra
and Sydney's playing in Melbourne. What a wasteed opportunity camp.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Oh, they definitely missed a trick there, the AFL in
their future forecasting of how it might look for the AFL.
And we know we heard John LONGMOI with some pretty
strong commentary during the week about obviously not trying to
take away anything from the announcement of a Tasmanian team,
but you know, talking about the population in Sydney and

(43:57):
how they needed to I guess, really promote the game
in the IFL in New South Wales, and particularly when
there isn't any rugby there this weekend. That would have
been a perfect opportunity to have some standalone games in Sydney.
But to have gw Wes playing in Canberra, that mister trick.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
There absolutely Now it's all about the license this week,
so this got a little bit lost.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
It was big on the day.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
When it was announced when Andrew Dyllon became the new CEO,
taken over from Gila mcgloughlin later this year, which is
a little unusual. I think that gils hanging around for
so long. But there's a bit to get done. Obviously
Tassy's ticked off now, but as the player's bargaining agreement,
I think the Hawthorne scandal as well needs to be
all ticked off.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
But Blair, you had some one on one time with the.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
New CEO the other nights at the official after party
for the license announcement.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 8 (44:46):
He He is a wonderful man.

Speaker 7 (44:48):
Actually, he was up for chat and I actually spoke
to him for fifteen minutes actually, which is great, and
you've got the alpha male CEO in Gill, but I
think Andrew will be bit more hard working behind the scenes,
crossing all the t's and dotting the eyes. So the
leader he'll be, and he's very well respected by all

(45:09):
the peers.

Speaker 8 (45:10):
And it's funny, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (45:11):
The AFL launched this massive campaign across the world actually
to get a new CEO, and the successful candidate was
a couple of officers down the corridor, which is fine
because the AFL does get accused of being a bit.

Speaker 8 (45:26):
Of a boys club.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
And they had their search far and wife a new CEO,
and they found a good one, I believe, in Andrew Dillon.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
Some people were quite critical of the whole process, not
necessarily the fact that Andrew Dillon was announced, but I
think some of the treatment of some of the other
people that had put their name forward for the job,
and the lack of consultation and feeding back to them
about where the process was that the Western Bulldogs president
Catherine Watson Wheeler was one and also tasty his own

(45:56):
Brendan Gal. But we think Brendan Gal will get a
job somewhere.

Speaker 7 (45:59):
Well, Brendan will he get Andrew Dillon's jobs too, I
seek so, yeah, but I don't want to see that, actually,
I want to see him yeah. Hold and then take
on the CEO position of Tasmania.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
Yeah, be interesting to see how it all pans out. Breno.
Some big news with Tazzy cricket during the.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Week, Yeah, big going on a cricket Taz. I'll ask
you about each of those individually.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Boys. We'll start with Paddy Dooley because that's the good news.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
He's coming down to play some cricket for the Tasmanian
Tigers after his successful stint with the Hobart Hurricane. So
that's a good first apartment in its own right.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Well, he was outstanding last year, probably one of the
players of the tournament, wasn't He nineteen wickets in the
Big Bash at twelve and has struggled to break in
at domestic level in Brisbane because obviously with Swepson and
Gunnerman it's hard to get a game as a spinner there.
So I think it's a really good acquisition to the

(46:52):
Tassy lineup, and we believe their contract.

Speaker 6 (46:54):
List is going to be finalized next week.

Speaker 8 (46:57):
So there's a few to come in though, isn't there.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Yeah, well, if you have gone out blare Jackson.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
Bird's a big one for me, our best bowler we've
had in Shield history. Yeah, he's getting on a little bit,
but he's got a couple more years in Jackson Bird
and there was talk that you got a massive offer
to return to New South Wales which included playing and
then transitioning into a coaching role. So he's a big,
big loss Jackson Bird, as he's been. McDermott too, well,

(47:24):
I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
I don't know, You're probably closer than both of us, Breno,
but the Jackson Bird one is disappointing. When you have
a look at his Shield record, it's outstanding averages in
the early twenties and from my understanding Blair mentioned a
lucrative offer from New South Wales, but it was the
fact that the tenure of the Tasmanian contract only a year,
almost made it untenable for him to continue down there.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
Have I read that right well? Down here?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Think while reporters was a low ball off, I'm not
sure exactly what it was, but so that's what we
heard out of Cricket Tasmania. So it is disappointing. I
think you do all you can to keep someone like
Jackson Burrd. We've lost a bit of experience. We've talked
about the depth of our pace bowling department, but losing
Siddle and Bird out of that at the same time
leaves a couple of big gaping holes there for mine.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
So we should have done all we could.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
And kept Jack Owen as a coach here as well.
So I think that's when it's got away from there unfortunately.
And Sarah Koit is the other one that stuck under
the radar. She of course was the hero of the
w Insign Final a couple of months ago. Yeah, that
unbelievable Fine Live where they took five wickets. She wanted
to go back home to New South Wales, has got
a deal there. So yeah, it's been a tough off

(48:31):
season so far, I think at Cricket Tasbon here and yeah,
hopefully that's the end of the exodus because there's three
big names gone.

Speaker 7 (48:39):
Well, Brent, who you're in the know, who's the big
signings that will be announced very soon?

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Well, we've got Jake weatherild in of course, Yes, yes,
I know. I've got no other information for it.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
It's all pretty tight lipped out of Cricket Tasbani.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
There were reports of a few names going around, but
eventulate around. No, I'm not going to Blair. I'm keeping
that to myself in case. You know, we'll see what happens.
Just keep you keep your eyes piels. We'll know this
week and see what happens. But that is it for
the week.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
That was.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
As I said, We've got a big second hour coming
up this morning. Not too far away is the jack
Jumpers second signing of the off season, Junior m'dutz. I
can't wait to talk to him. But up next, I
have a good look at AFL Round eight. So far,
we'll look at last night's game and what's to come
for the rest of the weekend. That's next on the
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Speaker 4 (49:50):
AFL ram Yes, Round eight started last night at Marvel Stadium.
Man it was a big win to the Risbone lines
led by Josh Dunkley, their latest recruit. Great to see
him perfore me so well as Brisbane line fifteen ten,
one hundred So Carlton eleven eight seventy four must have
just been an awesome for you to watch last night
Josh Dunkley starring.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Bred No really I was broken for an injury there
with Dunkley, but they didn't didn't come about in the
Brown household.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
He's not well liked by myself in.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
Sebastian at all, but he played very well last night.
It's fair to say Josh Duckburgh probably very good.

Speaker 7 (50:24):
Your emotion out of it's very good recruiting exactly the
top player they needed in Brisbane line.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
And it was shrewd and yeah, I thought he was
his terrific last night, as was Bury and I think
it was about a seven or eight gold of five
second half.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
So they're sitting.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Pretty really Brisbane, aren't they very nice Britain They've got
sorry Blair. They got off to a slow start, but
currently with games to play, the sitting on top of
the lader, they're probably right where they wanted to be
in their preseason planning yeah.

Speaker 7 (50:52):
They're clearly at top three, so and then when the
Wits are cracking at the finals, they'll be there. Brisbane
lines they had rich out as well, so yeah, there's
there's plenty of.

Speaker 8 (51:02):
Like about him.

Speaker 7 (51:03):
They got a couple of key forwards and pain that
found the key back as well to so they are
very very strong. But what about the game today? I'll
throw to you Brent on this one. Your team West
Coast Eagles. We're calling them the witches hats. They are
absolutely terrible. But they're up against Richmond who I think
they've lost five in a row as well, and going

(51:24):
nowhere fast as well. Plenty of interest in this one.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah, it's going to be a big game this phone cart.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Wait good to see Dom Sheed back at the MCG.
He will go down in his famous pocket and reminisce
about the time he won the Grand Final off his
own boot. But no, it's disappointing because West Coast have
shown a bit before last week.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
I thought give it.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
I mean, considering the injuries that we've gotten, the players
we've got to pick from, I thought they'd been quite competitive.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
But last week was a big blip on the radar.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
There's no doubt about that, and I only gets tougher
today against Richmond on the MCG. I know Richmond haven't
been in great form, but they get Graham pressed back
into that team, which will only strengthen them and they
should have a pretty comfortable when Joe Main and Jones
playing game fifty as well today.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
For the Eagles, part of their game stacked up.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Okay, Richmond, it's just some of their inside fifty ball
use and efficiency inside fifty that's really hurt them.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
I get.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
I'd actually get the Dustin Martin back into the midfield
this week. I think he's been a bit wasted as
a deep forward of Lake.

Speaker 8 (52:24):
Just before that, Sam Banks must be very close to
the game.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Well, we mentioned a couple of weeks ago he was
I think about twenty two touches last week. He's probably
a bit unlucky that pressure in a few of those
other names that Brent just mentioned have come back into
the side. But another strong game today from him in
the v film and I think he would have to
be come in because at some point when it becomes
too hard for Richmond to make the finals, that's when
you've got to start playing the kids. Geelong Adelaide should

(52:48):
be a really interesting game. Chase Jones, I think, for
the third time this year, has been in the coaches vote,
so he's really resurrected his AFL career.

Speaker 8 (52:55):
But he'll be the first Tasmanian captain.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Possibly week and he bade that perfect age bracket. But
Geelong went they terrific last week. Haven't they got their
season back on track? Blair with Hawkins obviously the most
goals he's ever kicked an AFL game, and the player
goes under the radar a bit grind me as he's
equal of the most score involvements in the AFL this season.

(53:19):
He's having a good year.

Speaker 8 (53:21):
Yeah, Meyer's elite kick is an elite field kick.

Speaker 7 (53:23):
He's got that unique action, but he's kicking percentages super high.

Speaker 8 (53:28):
I really liked that Laid this year.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
They've been super and some of them, some of us
had him in their AID at the start of the year.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
Did you did you?

Speaker 7 (53:35):
That's very good get because I didn't have him in
my top eight. But their intensity around the ball and
work ethic and yeah, it has been super. But they'll
find it very hard going down to the catory against Geelong,
who are on a roll.

Speaker 8 (53:48):
As you said, with the big.

Speaker 7 (53:49):
Forwards camera and if he doesn't get you the big
tomahawk whorl and really liking the look of.

Speaker 8 (53:55):
Geelong at the moment after a very slow start.

Speaker 6 (53:57):
Yeah, I think Geelong will win that one. Cume to
be adelaie. It actually have kicked themselves out of a
few games, but it's going to be tough down there, Brett.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
Do you give Gold Coast any chance against Melbourne today?
I'll give be a sneaky chance up there.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Yeah, wouldn't have thought so.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
I given it's on the Gold Coast, I'd give them
a sneaky one, but not too much of a chance.
Good luck Joed Witch playing game one fifty Freemantle Hawthorne Freeman.
I've just got to win that, don't they to get
their season back on track, you would think. And then
the other one tonight, Brownie, what about your mob against
the Giants?

Speaker 3 (54:26):
How are you going to go in Canberra? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (54:28):
Well they've had a big rid over the years, haven't they.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
GWS and the Western Bulldogs, but I think this will
be a tight game. GWS a terrific win last week.
Tbe Green, Yeah, what an amazing goal to win the
game against Sydney Western Bulldogs in a close. When I
saw them play last week against Hawthorne, I thought Aaron
Norton was fantastic, predicting another big game from him. So
the Dogs in that one for mine. Port Adelaide Essendon

(54:54):
Blair on the Sunday.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
Good game this one. Actually, I like Port Adelaide. They've
been very good. Can you hint league? It was under
pressure at the start of the year. He's got the
boys firing. They're fifth on the ladder and as it then,
have been pretty good, haven't they. They've had cut of
close losses in games, but they were smashed last week
against you Long. But I do like what they're doing
at essenon two. But I think Port Adelaide at home

(55:15):
will be too strong.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
And match of around Breno Collingwood versus Sydney three twenty
at the MCG on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Yeah, looking forward to this one.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Mason Cox are big in obviously they've missed someone that
can rock for them in a way that Cox can,
I suppose, and Penury back in as well, and from
a tazzy perspective, Robbie Fox back into for the Sydney Swans.
But I listen to someone during the week who was
looking at the stats around this and they picked Sidney

(55:44):
to win it.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
So there could be an upset brewing here. But at
the MCG you think Collingwood.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
But yeah, comparing the stats, I can't remember exactly what
it was, but they thought Sydney might be able to
cause the upset in this game.

Speaker 7 (55:55):
Well, Sydney would need to be about sixty points in
front with fifteen in to.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Go to be right.

Speaker 6 (56:03):
And Brennan the last game North Melbourne and cured it.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Interesting we heard that Ica Clarkson was obviously going to
wield the action, threatened that he would bring in the kids,
and that's exactly what he's done. But it's come at
the expense of Tasmanian Aaron Hall thirty possessions last week,
but finds himself.

Speaker 8 (56:22):
Essis is he putting some value on those positions? Is
he Brownie?

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Yeah, Well, there's something obviously about the defensive side of
his game the coaches aren't happy about. If you get
thirty touches and you lead your team and you still
find yourself out of the team. It's going to be
another big round of AFL footy.

Speaker 6 (56:40):
Brint.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
It certainly will be absolutely looking forward to seeing out
all plays out, looking forward to the rest of the
show this morning as well, we're not so far away
from announcing the next winner of our Good Sport Award
thanks to McDonald's. But up next we're switching our focus
to another sport in basketball, because this week a t
Hasbanie a Jack Jumpers signed it. Junior will talk to
him after this here on the water Boys doing it all.
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Speaker 4 (57:16):
Been a really quiet off season for the jack Jumpers
so far. We saw Anthony Drimmik sign on the Dotted
line a few weeks ago, and this week we got
our second signing and it is Junior Mdut who's been
good enough to join us on the water Boys this morning.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
To day, Junior and welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Mate.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Thanks, yeah, we're going well and great to have you
on board at the jack Jumpers. Mate, tell us what
was the the pitch?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
I was supposed to get you down here to Tasmania.

Speaker 13 (57:41):
I think it's just it's a combination of a lot
of things, you know. I think the involvement with the
with the state in terms of basketball and community, and
plan on how he wants to win the team kind
of yeah, all that stuff together.

Speaker 7 (57:58):
Now, Junior, you already had a taste of NBL this
season with the Phoenix and I notice you're playing in
the NBL one at the moment and you go to
career high fifty points for the North Sydney Bears. Are
you in really good form?

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (58:13):
Yeah, you know, like I said in previous interviews, I
think the NBA one is a great piece to build
confidence and build character. I'm doing it right now.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
And Junior, obviously the decision to come to the jack Jumpers,
how much was there a personal alignment in I guess
the club culture and values that you probably would have
heard that has been quickly established under Scott Roth. And
also the second part of that as an opportunity because
I've read with interest where coach Roth really thinks you
can add something from the defensive end. So I guess

(58:45):
the decision making processes in terms of a personal investment
for you coming.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
Can you talk us through that?

Speaker 13 (58:51):
Yeah, No, it's huge, it's huge. I think Scott Scott
Roth has a great plan for the team, and his
plan is, you know, I guess his and you and
do is to make guys work hard and get guys better.
And yeah, that's just what I want to do. Just
want to come in and get better and experience with
Tasmanian culture at the same time and just have fun
doing it.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
Really and what about it, I guess as an opposition
player previously coming up against the jack Jumpers and when
you're in the chained rooms and what was I guess
some of the commentary in regard to the jack Jumpers
because we hear from a distance as supporters that you'd
very hard to play against, tough and hame and really
strong culture. Yeah, what sort of came about from the

(59:31):
coaches that you played under coming.

Speaker 13 (59:33):
To Tasmania when we played them, you know, I didn't
know what to expect that first, you know, I had
a lot of things about crowd and whatnot, But yeah,
being on the court and experiencing that and seeing how
invested down in their game and just how passionate they get,
like they were just someone was rowdy fans that we
play against the man bo so it was tough and
I could definitely see how the players feed off that energy.

(59:56):
So I decided to be a part of that for sure.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
And Junior Blair mentioned the nb or one season before,
but when do you actually make the move to the
jack Jumpers off the NBA one season?

Speaker 13 (01:00:07):
Yeah, I think I'll be there as soon as possible. Basically,
it depends on how our season goes and if we
make it to the I guess postseason like playoff situation,
So yeah, it will depend, but most likely I'll be
there later early August.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
And jun you before we let you go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Roth has always said that he wants to get players,
you know, of a strong character, but even with a
chip on their shoulder or a point to prove.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Is that do you feel like that's you?

Speaker 13 (01:00:33):
Yes, I think Scott rob has a good understanding of
where I'm at a as a player, and I think
he does that very well of understanding it, like well,
a lot of players are, and he just wants to
help them get to where they need to be. And yeah,
I respect that a lot of them. I just want
to be a part of that for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
We can't wait to say a part of a day
of the Mate.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
It's going to be fantastic to say in the Jack
Jumpers kid later this year. Good luck with the rest
of the NBA one season, and we look forward to
saying in Tasmania in a couple of months time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Thanks for you wanting us on the water Boys.

Speaker 13 (01:01:01):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Yeah, Junior m'duit who will be in the Jack Jumpers
beautiful Green kit later this season in the nball can't
wait to see it and I can't wait to see
the end of the show next as well, when we
announce the winner of our good Sport Award thanks to McDonald's.
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Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
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Ten thirty A M. Cam Brown. Who is our winner
this week? Please?

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
The winner this week Brent is Leah Tenaglia.

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Now her sport is jiu jitsu and the nomination here
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She'll hold anyone down.

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boys want to get whipped through the TSL games for
Round five with you at starting at Utat Stadium with
north On, Sesson and Lauderdale also at Blunst that arena

(01:02:35):
you're more blurry.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Clarence hosting Glenorky that could get ugly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
And lon Seston are at home to the Tigers in
the Grand final rematch at Winsor Park. That'll be an
absolute cracker up there, and I reckon the Tigers might
break their longer way to drought up there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Boys, what do you reckon?

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
Well?

Speaker 8 (01:02:49):
They're fre and zip, aren't they?

Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
The Tigers they're off to a flyer and lun Seston
and not the team they once were over the last
three years. So everyone in the competition thinks, sir, this year,
Well Clarence do and the Tigers do. But yeah, that's
certainly the game of the round. Clarence to smash Gonorky
sadly and the battle of the bombers, Brownie, how do
you like that one?

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
I think North in that uncomfortably. You're off, Lord, Yes,
I am, I disrespect the lord. I think North had
a very good win against Clarence last I've got to
go with them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
What happened there, Blair? What happened there?

Speaker 10 (01:03:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Talking up? You were trash talking.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Brad Coox, good your last week on He came back
to bite on the butt.

Speaker 7 (01:03:30):
A few injuries actually Clarence and but they were up
at about the week before against Lounceston and then a
little bit flat and just a timely reminder that North
loncest and a very good team. They've been a very
good team for the last ten years and so they're
still thereabouts. So yeah, no, it makes for an interesting competition,
doesn't it, because we thought we might get a couple

(01:03:52):
of teams clearing out on top, but we know Lonces
and a very good club.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
They never say die, that's for sure at the North
Loni Footay Club. But now before we go, boys just
want to give a shout out for the Hobart Footy Club.
They've got a big night coming up with Kerry o'keeff
next Saturday night, the thirteenth and May between six and eleven,
and you can get along there for sixty five dollars,
So check out Hobut Footy Clubs social Media or HOBARTFC
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Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
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anything back that you might have missed this morning. Before
we go, boys, one final word from each of view
about the week that was please Well.

Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
I think I love the aspirational nature of it, or
for young people in this state, Well, I.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
Think the exciting part now comes, isn't it, because there's
going to be some major announcements coming up and who's
going to run the club, who'll coach at list management,
all these sorts of things, So onwards and upwards.

Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
Brent.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Yeah, Look, we're going to be talking about this well forever.
We've got a team, We've got a team in the AFL.
I just can't believe.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
It's still pinching myself that we will be talking about
this for many years to come against the biggest clubs
in the land and they're going to be coming to
Tasmania and playing and I can't quite get my head
around it. But I'm going to have to because it
is here to stay. And he's very very exciting. Indeed,
that's a big show for us. Thanks for your company
this morning, and we're all again next Saturday morning with
more fun and frivolity on the water.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Boys have a great weekend. Everyone