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Known as the Oracle of Wealth, Alara shares her transformative journey from a spontaneous Kundalini awakening in 2015 to overcoming the collapse of her six-figure business in 2021. She delves into the profound link between spiritual alignment and sustainable success, offering insights into conscious wealth creation. The discussion covers the emotional rollercoaster following her awakening, the concept of karmic debt, and strategies for establishing a loving relationship with money. Alara emphasizes the importance of self-sourcing energy and aligning with one's higher self to create impactful, soul-aligned businesses.

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(00:00):
None of it is true, right?
The source of our safetysecurity value worth is within
ourselves connecting directly tosource God universe, right?
Self sourcing.
So the person who's aligned haslet go of those external
attachments that moneyrepresents any of that and and

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literally that anything elserepresents those things, right?
And instead is self sourcingthat energy.
Welcome to The Wayfinder Showwith Luis Hernandez, where
guests discuss the why and howof making changes that lead them

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down a more authentic path orallow them to level up in some
area of their life.
Our goal is to dig deep andprovide not only knowledge, but
actionable advice to help youget from where you are to where
you want to be.
Come join us and find the way toyour dream life.

Luis (01:12):
Welcome back to The Wayfinder Show.
I'm your host, Louis Hernandez,and today I have a return
special co host, uh, the one andonly Stacey Hernandez.
Stacey, welcome back to TheWayfinder Show.

Stacy (01:25):
Thanks, Sebi.

Luis (01:28):
All right, uh, this is a good one for the two of us
because as you probably allremember from past shows, I'm,
you know, your practical, youknow, feet on the ground kind of
guy.
And Stacey is what I've referredto as like my woo woo partner.
So uh, and we have.
Somebody today who's a greatcombination of the two of those
worlds here.
So, uh, So I think it's going tobe a lot of fun.

(01:50):
So today we welcome alara sageShe's also known as the oracle
of wealth.
Alara is an award winningtransformational business oracle
who empowers visionary leadersto awaken their souls wealth
codes And harness the creativelife force energy to scale
Purpose driven enterprises.
Her journey is one of profoundtransformation from a

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spontaneous spiritual awakeningin 2015 to overcoming the
collapse of our six figurebusiness in 2021, which taught
her the powerful link betweenspiritual alignment and
sustainable success.
Alara.
brings a fresh perspective onconscious wealth creation and
offers actionable strategies forbuilding impactful, soul aligned

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businesses.
Alara, welcome to the Wayfindershow.

Alara (02:39):
Yay.
Thank you so much to both ofyou.
You two are adorable and I'mjust really blessed to be here
with you guys.
Hey,

Luis (02:46):
thank you.
We feel the same.
Yeah.
So a lot of, uh, tell us alittle bit about, you know,
yourself, your background, yourorigin story for people who
don't already know.
I'm really curious to know aboutwhat that awakening was in 2015.
And

Stacy (03:00):
yes, yes,

Luis (03:01):
yes.

Alara (03:04):
So in 2015, I had a spontaneous Kundalini awakening.
At the time in my life, I wasmeditating.
every single day, but I didn'tactually, I had heard of
Kundalini, but I wasn't doinganything regards to practicing
Kundalini.
And one day when I was drivingmy car at the time, I used to do

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a bodywork on horses.
And so I was going to do thebodywork on horses, driving my
car.
And luckily I was on a backroad.
I was going only about 30 milesan hour because a higher self
came in and said, Ohm threetimes.
And ohming was something I knewwhat it was, but it wasn't

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something that I practicedregularly, but I understood.
So I said, okay, higher self,and I took a nice deep breath,
Oh, you know, I do that threetimes.
And at the very end of thatthird ohm, an energy shot from
the base of my body through mybody up through my crown.
And I went into a full bodyorgasm.

(04:06):
And the funny thing about it isat that time in my life, I had
never even experienced, uh, easysexual orgasms, let alone full
body orgasms.
And I mean, it went, I was justin this very blissed out
euphoric state.

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Uh, I just sat there in the carfor a few minutes.
I had no idea what was happeningto me.
It was completely spontaneous.
And when the orgasm subsided, Iwas very much just on cloud
nine, just very lit withenergies.
I remember getting back on theroad and you know, you're just,
you're just in that vibe, right?

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I cranked up the music.
I was like dancing while I'mdriving, you know, just having
the best time of my life.
I remember waving at all thecars that were driving by.
And the horses loved it becausewhen I brought that energy to
them, they just all went intotrance and they received and it
was deeply healing.
But again, I had no idea whathad happened.

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So after that day, it changedvery rapidly.
I went into a very rollercoaster, emotional state.
And for about five months, Iwould one minute be raging

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angry, and then the next minuteI would be crying on the floor,
weeping this intense grief andsorrow.
And before this happened, I hadconsidered myself to be very
emotionally stable.
But the truth was, is that I wasjust emotionally suppressed.
So when that energy shot throughmy body.

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It released all of this dormantenergy.
But again, I didn't know whatwas going on.
And I literally asked my higherself more than once throughout
those five months, am I goingcrazy?
And higher self said, breatheand allow, and after about the
five months, a book came into myspace as divine will does called

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Kundalini awakening.
And the first chapter of it wasabout spontaneous Kundalini
awakening, and that's where Ilearned what had happened to me.
And so that very much opened up,you know, my emotional bodies
really brought me even deeperinto my spiritual practice.
Um, while I was working with thehorses, I was also doing animal

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communication.
I've been very psychic my wholelife.
Um, and Then one day it waslike, yep, they're going to
start working with people.
And honestly, I was like, no,thanks.
And, uh, yeah, let's just say Ididn't have a choice, uh, which
I came to love.
But initially, um, that was justthe direction it took

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immediately.
And I started working withpeople and then started to, uh,
really work with businesses.
And yeah, then in, you know, Iwas had a six figure business
and plenty of money and I wastold that I had a communion with
God that was also veryspontaneous and at the time I

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didn't even use the word God,but that was the word that came
through that was the presence.
I felt that there's just nodenying when something like that
happens.
It's that that that was that'sGod and shortly after that
communion ended, which wasreally a state of pure bliss
where I didn't want foranything.
I could have just sat on thecouch and stayed there for two

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and a half months.
And, and really just not, youknow, desiring anything
whatsoever and, and I was toldthat I wasn't going to stay in
that place.
It's just not really beneficialto be human, uh, in that, in
that space.
And so that ended.
And then I was told, uh, fromhigher self that my money was

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going to be stolen.
I was actually kind of given an,an option.
I was shown how karmically I hada massive debt.
And not necessarily monetarydebt, but it was a big debt and
I was asked if I wanted to clearthat debt and I said yes, and,
um, and then about a week later,my money was stolen, uh, which

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it was very strange.
It was, it was a scam, uh, whichis interesting because I tend to
know those things, you know,like I tend to see scams very
easily.
Uh, but yeah, it was, it was alldivine.
Orchestration is what it was.
Uh, so it happened.
And at first, initially I wasvery fearful, uh, and then

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within a short amount of time,like 20 minutes, letting that
fear move through me.
Okay.
How my money stolen?
Well, you know, the good thingthat I've always been good at is
creating whatever I want.
So I'll just recreate my wealth,like piece of cake.
And that's not what happened.

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Instead of recreating my wealth,my business collapsed and I went
into debt.
And for the first time in mylife, I was really forced to
look at my relationship to moneywhen I had money.
I could just pretended that Iwas fine.
I didn't have any issues withmoney, but I did.

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I just wasn't looking at thoseissues.
So when the business collapsedand I was really In debt and
facing this, I really wentthrough this profound experience
of understanding some of thecore trauma around money with
humans, which really has to dowith our personal power and all

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of the trauma around personalpower and the many different
layers of that and reallyunderstood this to be part of my
mission here to learn it asdeeply and profoundly as I can,
which I continue to learn andcontinue to humbly open myself
to this process and, and bringforth what I learn and what I'm

(10:13):
told into humanity.

Luis (10:17):
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah, that's powerful.
Stacey, I'll, uh, I know you gota lot running through your head.
Yeah, I mean,

Stacy (10:26):
there's so many directions I can go here that I,
I'm just, I, I, I'm, you know,what I'm finding incredible is
the more and more people I workwith or the more and more people
I connect with, how, especiallypeople that are more on like
this deeper spiritual path orthis awakening path, like, like
you are.
How?
How?

(10:47):
Different people's experiencesare like yours had to be in this
way, right?
More intense, quicker, rapidshift, right?
Where others it's a slow go.
It's that slow and and to haveto shift.
That quickly.
I know exactly what you'resaying in the sense of, I didn't

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have a choice.
Spirit's telling me this is theway it is.
And this is the way it isbecause if you fight it, it's
just messy and not pretty, youknow, to, to manage, but it's,
um, it's interesting becauseprobably a lot in your work that
you do.
With people, you're having toshow up probably very
differently than your ownexperience in the sense of how

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they are kind of awakening totheir relationship to money is,
is maybe different than how youhad to experience it.

Alara (11:39):
I love that awareness so much, Stacey.
You know, Yeah, I mean, what yousaid is true.
For whatever reason, I tend todo things very quickly and very
intensely.
And that's just not everybody'sexperience.

Luis (11:54):
Yeah, I know.
I tend to process

Stacy (11:56):
it's fascinating.
Yeah, and it's interestingbecause we had a similar
experience.
What what was ours?
2000 not not in truth.
We lost everything.
We'll put it that way, you knowIt wasn't to a scam, but it was
a it was the market crash andthat what was that?
It wasn't Yeah.

(12:18):
Yeah.
That's right.
Well, that's, I should know thatcause our youngest child was
bored at that time.
So I should, I shouldn'tremember that year and, and it,
for us, it was like a very, ithappens, but it took a decade of
processing for each of usseparately.
Louie had his own process and,and then I had my own process in

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and the, the wounding that cameout of it was very different,
you know, but, but very much.
Yeah.
I went into spiritual bypassing,Oh, creator, God, whatever is
going to take care of us.
And I'm just going to spendbecause I know that it's, it was
complete spiritual, spiritualbypassing, even though I know a

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hundred percent in my core andin my being that we are a
hundred percent always takencare of.
But it wasn't that it was likea.
It was not takingresponsibility.
Louis had to deal with like selfesteem and processing of that.
There was more of like a, Ithink a masculine wounding
around it, right?
And it's fascinating.
I never thought about this untilthis moment of you sharing your

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story.
Of how it's taken us this longto process.
Sorry, go ahead, Javi.

Luis (13:28):
No, I was gonna say, yeah, around mine, I think mine was
more, uh, um, I went intolearning, definitely affected my
self esteem, I think, to thisday.
But also, uh, just becoming moreof a A student of money, right?
And go in and like getting abusiness degree and just
studying business and, and, youknow, Warren Buffett and value

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investing and all thesedifferent things, right?
But somehow that all leads youback towards, uh, energy
somehow, right?
Like money is energy.
And it seems like that's a lotaround the work that you do,
right?

Alara (14:03):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because ultimately what moneyteaches me and what, You know,
even the father teaches me isthat, you know, we have our
creative life force energy.
So that's that Kundalini Shaktithat awakened within me.
And that creative life forceenergy, it's within everything,
right?
It's it's in the couch, youknow, it's in our bodies, it's

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in the screen.
Everything is made up of thatcreative life force energy.
And that's what we use to createour physical reality, is we use
that creative life force energy.
So money is simply, it's aneutral energy, which is
something that I think a lot ofpeople don't understand.
It in and of itself is not goodor bad.

(14:47):
It's neutral.
Uh, but it represents theexchange that we have in
humanity, right?
Currently, right now, in thisera of humanity, we use money as
an exchange.
For our services for what we arebringing to the table and the
truth of really what that wantsto resent represent is that

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exchange of that of that energy.
Right, is I'm going to bringthis energy, this service, this
product to you, and you're goingto bring something back to me.
And so fundamentally, it's verybeautiful, right?
Because we're in an ecosystemwhere we are giving and
receiving and giving andreceiving of that energy.

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So money just creates somethingsymbolic.
And the thing I love about moneyis that it's quantifiable.
Right, which allows us tounderstand our environment
better by quantifying it.
And that's what money reallyrepresents, but it has so much
to teach us about ouravailability to that energy, our

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availability to our power.
You know, how we perceive ourpower, how we perceive our own
value, because that can be areal strong representation, uh,
how much we perceive our valuecan be how much we're really
allowing ourselves to receiveand play with money, money

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because it can It also has thatcorrelation to power.
It can really trigger a lot ofpeople in their trauma around
power, right?
Like we have a lot of situationsin humanity that are other
people forcing themselves on Onto others, right?

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So like a lot of the systems,the matrix, this, everything
that we have, it's not realpower.
It's really force, you know,follow us, obey by us, do what
we say.
Um, that's not true power.
And so humanity's perspective ofpower is, is very distorted and
very distorted.
traumatized when people thinkabout their own personal power,
they're usually in a level offear as same as when they think

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of people in power, right?
That means that those people aregoing to have power over them.
So there's a lot of trauma therefundamentally about power, and
that gets shown that getsrepresented very clearly in
their, in their relationship tomoney as well.
Like people who are power hungrywill oftentimes be power or
money hungry, right?

Luis (17:19):
Hmm.
So what would, how, how wouldthe other,

Stacy (17:23):
I'm curious.

Luis (17:24):
No, go ahead.

Stacy (17:26):
Go ahead.
No, no, go, go, go, go.
We're trying not to do this.
We're trying to be in sync, butthat's, it's going to work.

Luis (17:34):
I'm curious as to what, like somebody who's not, it's
pretty easy to see what somebodywho's in, who's power and money
hungry looks like, but what doesthe opposite look like?
What is it?

Alara (17:48):
That's a really great question.
It's funny.
I swear you read my mind justthen because I was like, Oh, I
should have gone with the otherside of that.
And then you literally asked thequestion.
So somebody who, you know,again, the other side of that is
the, the fear of our personalpower, which is not something
that we necessarily are.
Super aware of.
It's not like people are goingaround going, gee, I sure am so

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scared of my own power.
And so the ways that that fearof our own personal power can
show up is, you know, you havegreat ideas, you have great
visions, but you just can't seemto make them happen, right?
Or you start things and youcan't finish them.
Uh, another way that that canshow up is that you have a more

(18:29):
of a disconnected relationshipto money, right?
Like money doesn't really seemto come into your life.
You try to do things and maybeyou get just enough.
And even if you make more money,then your bills seem to kind of
just climb right up there.
And you're always in that verykind of just surviving, right?
That just surviving phase.

(18:50):
We don't understand, but on adeep subconscious level, that
can be that.

Luis (18:58):
Okay.
So again, what about when, whatdoes it look like when we don't
have that fear or any of those,um, So the

Stacy (19:09):
aligned person you're saying, like the person who's

Alara (19:11):
aligned with?

Luis (19:13):
Yeah.

Alara (19:14):
Yeah.
So I call that wealth embodiedor embodied wealth.
And it's such, you know, it'ssuch a beautiful place because
the thing that humans haveunfortunately kind of given
power to money and into otherthings as well.
It's not just money, but we'vegiven a lot of power to money,
right?
Money is the source of ourfreedom.
These are the beliefs, right?

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Money is a source of ourfreedom.
Money is a source of oursecurity, right?
Our safety.
Money is a source of our value.
None of that is true.
None of it is true, right?
The source of our safety,security, value, worth is within
ourselves, connecting directlyto SourceGod Universe, right?

(19:57):
Self sourcing.
So the person who's aligned haslet go of.
those external attachments thatmoney represents any of that.
And, and literally that anythingelse represents those things,
right?
And instead is self sourcingthat energy.
So what does that mean?
How does that look in thetangible?
It looks like it doesn't matterwhat's in your bank account,

(20:17):
right?
So very similar to what Staceywas saying and that beautiful
awareness that Stacey had ofspiritual bypassing, which I
also did that.
Before, when I had the money, Iwas spiritual bypassing, um,
it's that deep faith that we areprovided for.
We are taken care of, but asStacy mentioned, not from
spiritual bypassing, it'sactually a deeply embodied state

(20:38):
where there, where if feararises, you know, fear is dealt
with.
All the emotions are handled andhonored as they arise or not
avoided.
Same with any belief structures.
Um, But what happens is you, youcreate that wealth, right?
Wealth is resource.
So you become self sourced, youbecome well resourced within

(21:02):
yourself, energetically,consciously, and then The way
that you create your life reallyshifts.
So instead of seeking everythingoutside of you, I need the
money, I need the job, I needthe boyfriend, right?
Or the girlfriend, you, you'rereally tapping into what wants
to be created through me now.

(21:23):
And that's really listening toyour higher self.
That's really listening to yoursoul.
So like those examples when, youknow, my higher self came to me,
you're gonna start working withpeople.
Okay.
That's what wants to be createdthrough me.
I've done a lot of things thatin all honesty, I was like,
Yeah, okay.
I'll do that.
Like one time the mother askedme to start working with
pregnant women It was neversomething that I desired to do,
but that's what wanted to happenthrough me So I honored it and

(21:44):
it was very very beautiful andabsolutely impactful for both me
and the women I worked with Soit becomes that state of what?
Does my soul desire toexperience here?
How can I serve the divinity ofmy being?
And you create from that placeand your wealth and then you are
magnetizing.
You're attracting thoseopportunities, those

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synchronicities, that truedivine will, but you're not
affected by, you know, theexternal, like the markets.
You're not affected by thecollective consciousness of
fear.
You're not affected by thesethings because you're self
sourcing.
Yeah,

Stacy (22:20):
that's the missing piece.
This is that new paradigm energylike this is.
This has been the missing piecewith all of these years and
years and years of the abundancetalk and blah, blah, blah.
Like this is so key.
Wow.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for bringing that up.
I mean, you just brought somedeeper awarenesses for me to
work on, you know, within thisas well.

(22:43):
I'm curious about what do yousee are the most common ways
people hold themselves back withtheir relationship to money and
prosperity?
Like what are like the commonYou know, whatever symptoms
tools or not.
You know what I'm saying?
Absolutely wounding whatever itis.
Yeah.

Alara (23:02):
Yeah, I like to that's a really great question.
I like to look at it from therelationship side of things
because that's just not even aword we tend to bring in.
You know, a relationship withmoney.
And I like to really say thatreally what wants to occur is
just to have a lovingrelationship with money.
And when you look at that, youcan really refer back to what

(23:23):
they teach in relationships.
There are attachment styles,right?
There's the, I don't even knowthe attachment styles, but what
higher self and the fathertaught me was codependency.
Anxious attachment and avoidantattachment.
Fundamentally, they're all fromthe same wound.
So if you have one, you're goingto have all of them to some
degree, but you might have onethat kind of stands out.

(23:44):
So codependency with money isagain that like I need to have
it.
To feel safe.
I need to have it to feelvaluable.
These are oftentimes people whobring on the money and then they
tend to hoard it.
Save it right.
They want to keep it rightbecause there's something there
that's helping them to feelsomething.

(24:05):
And, you know, whether that's avalue, whatever that is, that's
the codependency, right?
And that if that somehow leavesyour space, like if you have to
spend money, oh, you're likegiving a piece away of your, of
your value of your worth, right?
Uh, the anxious attachment.
Um, is where you have thatanxiety, right, where you're

(24:27):
really maybe watching your bankaccount all the time.
And, Oh my God, I'm okay.
What up?
Okay.
I went back down.
Oh, what up?
Right.
And there's just this liketension and you're watching the
markets and you're watchingeverything and you're waiting
for the shoe to drop.
And you know, there, there isn'ta sense of calm and security
within.

(24:48):
And.
The last one, the avoidantattachment, which was the energy
that I was in because I had themoney.
I just, I didn't look at any ofit.
You know, I just pretended likeeverything was, that's me.
Just like you said, Stacy, I'llbe provided for it's all good.
I don't need to look at mymoney.
And, you know, and so thatavoidant attachment is it's the

(25:11):
same thing.
It's where we ultimately don'tfeel worthy.
We don't feel we don't believethat we're valuable.
And we are giving that power tomoney that somewhere we believe,
okay, that money is telling mehow valuable I am.
So if I just don't look at it, Idon't have to address, you know,
fundamentally what I what I feeland experience.
Another thing that's really goodfor people is the receiving the

(25:35):
holding and the spending.
So a great way I like to workwith people is Yeah, how do you
receive money?
Right?
Does money do you receive moneyeasily?
Do you receive moneychallengingly?
None of this is from a state ofjudgment, right?
This is all just selfobservation, self awareness.
When money comes in, how do youfeel?

(25:56):
And then holding on to money?
You know, can you save money?
And what does it feel when yousave money?
Does it feel like you're savingfor a rainy day?
You're saving for the shoe todrop?
Or does it feel just that you'recollecting money, right?
That it's, that it's neutral.
And then how do you spend money?
Right?
Does it feel joyful when youspend money?

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Does it feel fluid when youspend money?
Or does it feel like you'rehaving to, you know, give away
something that you'd reallyrather hang on to, or Do you
just kind of spend moneyflippant, which is kind of where
I, where I was, it was just kindof like, Oh, I want that.
Great.
I want that.
I want that.
Like, I don't even really payattention to how much it costs.
Right.
So all of those can be verypowerful to sit down and ask

(26:39):
yourself and realize thisrelationship to money.
Cause ultimately we want itfundamentally to be loving.
We want to receive money.
We want to give money lovingly.
We want to hold on to moneylovingly.
Oh,

Stacy (27:00):
wow.
Wow.
This is, there's, there's somuch in here that, um, how, what
are, what are some tools you,you give to people or how, well,
okay, let's start with sometools and then I'm really
curious about how you work with,with folks, you know, but it's
like some tools to help peopleto really start to dig in to

(27:22):
shifting their relationship tomoney.

Alara (27:25):
Yeah, definitely.
First, it's sitting down andasking those questions that I
just asked.
Um, I tend to give people a lotof questions that they can
contemplate and write.
Uh, I find that people really,you know, a lot comes through
when, when you write.
things down.
So if there's a question andyou, you allow yourself to
answer that question.
So for instance, how do youreceive money?

(27:47):
What does it feel like when youreceive money?
You sit down and you startanswering that through writing.
It's pretty incredible how muchcan open up for the majority of
people through the writingprocess.
I find it very powerful.
So beginning to ask thosequestions of yourself and you
know, of course, willing to lookat yourself, willing to.
See what the answer is from aplace of non judgment because

(28:11):
while you know, maybe it's notthe best None of us are perfect.
This you know, this is not aboutperfection.
This is about learning This isabout learning through our
mistakes and becoming betterpeople.
So let yourself see yourmistakes Let yourself see who
you truly are so that you canthen say, you know Is that
something I want to continue tofeel or?

(28:32):
or act upon, or, you know, do Iwant to make changes there?
So first it's always selfawareness, always, always,
always the first step isawareness.
And then you get to say, okay,like, let's take the example of
the receiving this, the holdingand the giving, which one of
those do I really feel needs themost change, right?
Maybe it was like me, the, theflippant spending, like, okay, I

(28:55):
just, I just, I know, I know Ido that.
I know sometimes I get emotionaland I emotionally shop, right?
I know I do that.
Okay.
I desire change that behavior,right?
So now you're choosing abehavior, a pattern, a habit of
your personality that you desireto change.

(29:17):
And then it's about reallyslowing down when you're going
to make that spending and takingthat moment.
Is this something that I reallywant to buy?
Yeah.
What is the cost?
Let me take a breath here andmaking those more self aware
action steps.
The second step is alwaysaction.
What actions are you going totake that are going to a release

(29:41):
the old patterns, habits andbehaviors and what actions are
you taking that are bringing innew patterns, habits and
behaviors, right?
So if you're avoidingattachment, how about you start
setting down.
Whether that's one day a week,one day a month and sitting down
and looking at your money, justbeing with it, crying, sobbing,

(30:01):
raging, whatever you got to doto sit down, feel the feels,
look at the money and be withyourself in that process.
Right?
So that's adding in a habit thatis going to ultimately transform
you.
Wow.

Stacy (30:19):
It's powerful work.

Luis (30:21):
You know, um, I've heard you refer to the term your
soul's wealth code.
What does that mean?

Alara (30:32):
Yeah, so it's really, you know, it's really a phrase.
I say that because we get socaught up on words.
And it was just something Ilike, you know, like, what do
you call this?
But what I do with people withentrepreneurs specifically, but
I do it with non entrepreneursas well, is like, I just sat
down with some people yesterday.

(30:53):
And okay, so 2025, right, thebeginning of the year, what is
the next level of wealth thatyour soul wants to create?
And we drop into our hearts andwe receive that information from
higher self.
It's for one, it's just such afun process because people,
their minds get blown all thetime.
Uh, you know, and forentrepreneurs, they're usually

(31:16):
thinking of it very logically.
Like, well, I'm making 5k amonth.
So the next logical progressionwould be 10k a month or 8k a
month.
Right.
And your soul will come in andbe like 20k a month.
And they're like, wow, are youserious?
And it's a beautiful thingbecause.
What's happening is the soul iscommunicating, right?

(31:36):
It's never about the amount ofmoney.
It's, I mean, it's never aboutthe money, but what the money is
doing is it's representing apotential transformation that is
like available to you now.
So let's take the entrepreneurgoing from 5k and that it drops
in at 20k a month, right?
That's a big shift that isavailable to that entrepreneur

(31:58):
now.
And what the money isrepresenting is that
transformation.
Who they become as they followthe steps because it's
intuitively guided.
I teach my clients to listenvery heart centered, intuitive
guidance to everything you'reasked to do in order to create

(32:20):
that 20 K and it's a massivetransformation of the self.

Luis (32:26):
Yeah.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
As you know, I know in timeswhen we are taking like a
quantum leap in terms of ourwealth.
We, you know, I, I, I know Ifeel like a different, I'm
becoming a different person alltogether.
Right.
But, um, exactly.
Yes.
There's a couple of other thingsI wanted to ask.

(32:46):
Um, one was about, you mentionedat the very beginning about a
karmic debt.
Can you elaborate on that?
What does that mean?
How do we identify it?
And how do we clear it?

Alara (33:00):
You know, so karma is very misunderstood in humanity
and it's it's just a Basicallykind of like a balancing of
energies and I am living a verykarmic life So this life is one
that I am clearing a lot ofkarma Um, and when I say that
I'm referring to karma that hascaused myself or others pain

(33:23):
because we can bring in a lot ofgood karma too, but you don't
have to clear good karma.
Um, and, you know, of course,this is all on the foundational
principle that this is not ouronly life, right?
That we live infinite number oflives and experiences.
And so karma is Uh, therebalancing at a soul level.

(33:44):
So for instance, if you live alife that you are, because,
because we're talking aboutmoney, uh, very greedy and you
just hoard money and you takemoney and you're just doing
things, you know, with regardsto money that is not from a
place of integrity.
Right.
Somewhere within your experienceat a soul level, you're going to

(34:07):
work to balance that the otherdirection.
So how that looks is reallybetween you and your soul.
But that's basically a karmicdebt.
I hope that makes sense.

Luis (34:17):
Hmm.
Yeah, it does.
Okay.
Um, I guess for, for us who havelike, you know, who, who are in
this pace, how do we identifythat?
Like, how do we know if we haveany karmic debt?
Yeah,

Alara (34:33):
it's a really good question.
Um, you know, anytime thatthere's something that's really
showing up regularly for you,uh, specifically things that
have shown up since earlychildhood.
Right.
Things that you kind of came inwith, um, they can either be a,
you know, something that yoursoul is just desiring to

(34:54):
experience or it can be a karmicdebt.
So it's about really seeingpatterns in your life and how
perhaps something is repeatingitself.
And then, you know, what is thatpattern trying to show you teach
you, even if it's not a karmicdebt, if you're repeating a
pattern that you don't want tobe experiencing, there's a lot
of wisdom there for you tolearn.

(35:17):
Karma also teaches us atremendous amount of wisdom.
So it's always, regardless ofthe source of whatever it is
that you're experiencing, it'sabout being curious in life and
being willing to see and lookfrom a place of self awareness.

Luis (35:36):
That makes a lot of sense.
What, uh, one other, uh, beforewe start transitioning, uh, I'm
curious, uh, we're in this worldwhere money is almost being
redefined, right?
Like there's a, uh, you know,with crypto and all this other
energy, you know, like, likecurrencies, forms of currencies,
we, that are, um, coming, On youknow, we're just seeing it

(36:01):
evolve like in a physical way orI guess a virtual way You can
argue but um And I think there'salso like a disconnect that kind
of started to really becomenoticeable around covid when we
all had like You know, they callthe helicopter money just being
dropped on us like money almostdidn't matter right out of
nowhere All of a sudden nobodycould make money, but we got

(36:21):
money dropped in our bankaccounts and it was like all
okay You know what?
I mean?
It was a very strange time andit really kind of um, i've heard
some Like it almost made, uh,like us be aware that it is some
kind of energy out there likevirtual, but it's also not, um,

(36:41):
not like a tangible physicalthing for the first time.
Right.
Um, so I, I'm just wondering ifyou can talk about that and
elaborate and see where, whereyou see that going, um, as we,
you know, as some of thisbecomes more real, right?
Especially like crypto and, and,and such.

Alara (37:02):
Yeah, definitely.
So in 2019, I had a a prophetichit that, you know, the
financial structures would startcollapsing.
And that was before COVID.
So I had this prophetic hit, Icould see it very clearly.
And then, you know, like yousaid, we kind of had this, this
year come in where there wasjust seemed like an abundance of
money.
Um, but I trust my prophetichits.

(37:24):
And what I was just shown is,you know, that the current
structure that we have right nowof how money is created and
utilized, it just cannotcontinue the way that it
currently is largely because ofthe corruption and the greed and
just the energies through whichit's being circulated.
And so it needs to collapse andit needs to restructure how that

(37:47):
collapse shows up.
I don't have the answers forthat.
I wish I did.
Is it going to be likeovernight?
You know, is it going to be overa long period of time?
I don't know, but we areabsolutely rewriting this for
ourselves.
And so what I can speak to is alot of the, again, prophetic and
intuitive hits that I receive isfirst and foremost, going back

(38:09):
to.
Understanding that money is aresource, and we are going to be
understanding what it means tobe resourced and to be
stewarding, to be shepherding,to be honoring resources.
And this goes also into food andour relationship to Mother Gaia,

(38:30):
right?
And energy, right?
Because all of these are thesame, uh, They're the same topic
resource.
So it's not just money.
Money is just a portion of theconversation and on honestly,
the transformation of us goingto from being very distorted in
our relationship to resourcebeing, you know, largely greedy

(38:53):
and largely in in lack ofharmony with the natural flow of
resource through the universeand through our planet.
Let me give you an example.
You know, Mother Gaia, right?
She's the best example ofresource and she's, you know,
um, the mother as well and she,you know, one part of the

(39:15):
season, there'll be spring andthere'll be all this green and
this flowers and all theseanimals.
And then, you know, in thewinter that it's barren, right?
There's nothing there.
Or if you look.
At a longer period of season,you know, one time of the year,
and if you really zoom out inthe history of the world, right,
one area of the planet will gofrom extreme drought desert to

(39:41):
crazy rainforest, right?
Why?
Because the resources shifted.
Right.
The resources shifted the water,the sun, all of these energies,
they shifted.
So what we're trying to learn isthat resource is always
available.
Right.
It's always here.
That's the teaching ofabundance.

(40:03):
We are.
We are radically abundantbeings.
But that doesn't mean that theresource comes through the same
way.
Right?
And this has been our mis thishas been our disharmony.
Like, well, I want apples allyear round.
Right?
I want them flown from acrossthe planet.
I don't care what it does.
That is what I want right now.
And, you know, I'm just speakingfacetiously here, but that's

(40:25):
what we've created, right?
Rather than, okay, what's, whatis the natural rhythm of
resource right now?
Right.
Where does that naturally arrivefrom?
Because that's where the, theplentifulness really comes from.
Right.
Because why?
Because that's the mother andshe's got our backs when, when
she's saying, Hey, this is whatI have to give you right now.

(40:49):
And we are deeply honored andreceiving that there's no
shortage.
Right.
But when we are saying, Nope,sorry.
You, we want this other thingand we're in disharmony with
her, then fundamentally we'renot connected to that infinite
abundance.
So the whole conversation isabout resourcing and learning

(41:09):
how to be self source.
Like I spoke to, you know, whatdoes that mean to have that
sense of security, that sense ofsafety, that sense of freedom
within yourself, regardless ofyour external reality, as well
as being connected to, you know,these internal structures.
Of flow flow of creative lifeforce energy and then

(41:32):
simultaneously As a humanityright as a collective working
together to stay in rhythm Tostay in harmony with each other
and with the planet.
That's ultimately Where we'reheaded so obviously there's a
lot that has to happen Before weget there

Luis (41:54):
So, do you think you bring

Stacy (41:55):
up like oh gosh, I was just Wait, let me finish up by.
Okay, go ahead.

Luis (42:02):
No, go

Stacy (42:02):
if you want to.
Okay, with.
So yesterday I was listening toan astrological Oracle who
brings in all different kind ofastrological perspectives.
True sky, Vedic astrology, blah,blah, blah, Western, all of it.
And what was very, very, veryclear is yes, we know the
dismantling of all theinstitutions and systems that
have happened, like that havebeen happening over the years.

(42:25):
And we're really starting tofeel that now.
But it's the key piece this yearis our connection to our natural
rhythms and our connection toPachamama.
Connection to being out innature, connection to the
natural and spirit world, likeall of that.
So the, that is our way ofgetting sourced, getting our way

(42:46):
self sourced that that role ofcontemplation and being with
nature and following our naturalrhythms, rising when the sun
rises.
Going to bed when the sun, youknow, really connecting in those
ways, eating natural foods,dismantling the medical system
that we're seeing happen aroundus right now.
Those sort of pieces is oursaving grace as we go through

(43:08):
this massive transformationwe're going through in 2025.
So thank you for bringing thatbecause you bring that into a
very logical perspective forpeople to understand how, where
to go and how to ground yourselfthrough all of this.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.

Luis (43:28):
Well, thank you, Alara.
You had something heavy?
No, I think at this point, outof respect for Alara's time, we
should probably get into ourWayfinder 4, if that's all
right.
So uh,

Stacy (43:39):
One thing would be great though, is you can tell us how
we work, how, how to work withyou.
Cause that's one thing youdidn't get to talk about, for
people

Luis (43:46):
to

Stacy (43:46):
be able to work with you.

Luis (43:48):
Yeah, we'll get to that.
Is it part of

Stacy (43:50):
your questions?
Yeah.
We'll do it at the end.
Okay.

Luis (43:53):
So if we can get, if we can get a, could you share with
us a, a hack, just like a lifehack that you use regularly?

Alara (44:01):
100 percent breath, breath, to breathe, take a
breath, uh, to audibly exhale,you know, it literally speaks to
your subconscious mind to relax,to let go, but the breath is

(44:23):
free.
It's always available unlessyou're in a very unfortunate
circumstance, and it connectsyour conscious mind and your
subconscious and your superconscious.
So when you don't have answers,when you're unsure, when you're
feeling emotional, when you'refeeling stressed, all of the
things.
Just take a moment to breathe.

Luis (44:46):
Beautiful.

Stacy (44:48):
I love that.
So, talk about one of your,like, a favorite.
Could be favorite music,favorite book, favorite

Alara (44:58):
anything.
Hmm.
I've never been good withfavorites.
Movies.

Luis (45:04):
Something you like to do?

Alara (45:08):
Something I like to do?
Well, I spend a lot of time outin nature, um, so that's
interesting that Stacy saidthat.
And I, um, I just love going outinto nature and I receive all
these downloads, but I, youknow, I have these conversations
with myself, with Mother Gaia,with the father, and it always
feels like I'm a kid again, youknow, like I'm a kid out in

(45:32):
nature, uh, having all of thisexperience and it's, it never
ceases to fail me.
I, anytime I go out into nature,there it is.
I just love it.

Luis (45:43):
Excellent.
Yeah, that's right.
It is.
There's nothing like

Stacy (45:46):
it.
There's nothing like it.
We've, we've committed to everyonce a week a hike because we
live in a beautiful area wherewe can hike a lot and it just
like regrounds, it justreconnects.
It's just, there's nothing likeit.

Luis (46:02):
So Lara, what about a piece of advice for your younger
self?

Alara (46:07):
To listen.
I have not always been the bestlistener.
Uh, and you know, I've alwaysbeen connected to my higher
self.
Uh, that's been very easy forme.
And I haven't listened.
You know, I haven't alwayslistened.
There have been times even in myyounger life that I did, you
know, there's nobody that knowswhat we need more than our own

(46:31):
intuition, our own superconscious, our own higher self.
It's not always easy to listen.
But doing your best to listen asoften as you can and take action
on what you're asked to do, eventhough it can be more
challenging initially, it alwayscreates more flow.

Stacy (46:54):
So we're going to ask you to think about one, to answer
one of these, either talk abouta big opportunity that you're
thinking about or that you wantfor the world, or maybe a
limiting belief that has.
Kind of stopped you or preventedyou from maybe following what
you want.

Alara (47:14):
Yeah.
One of the big limiting beliefsthat I have dealt with, it's one
of my core, uh, in the genekeys, it's my life's work is
inadequacy.
And uh, you know, it's, it'sliterally that that energy is
literally rooted in our creativelife force energy.
So when, of course, believing ininadequacy is very, very
painful, um, and You know, forso long, when I looked back on

(47:37):
my younger years, I realized alot of people thought I was very
confident, but I was actuallydeeply unconfident and deeply
like believing that I wasinadequate.
So I put on a very good front.
And, you know, again, thatprocess of losing all my money,
I came head on straight face toface with that inadequacy and

(48:02):
just really learned how to sitwith it and listen to it rather
than try to pretend I didn'thave it.
Hmm.

Stacy (48:11):
Wow.
So what is the Siddhi

Alara (48:12):
to, to inadequacy?
Wisdom.
It's wealth.
It's an inexhaustible wealth,which is the feminine power.

Stacy (48:22):
Wow.
So what's a genius then?
Resource.
So, wow.
So inadequate, inadequacy to, toresource to wisdom.

Alara (48:34):
That's my life.

Stacy (48:35):
Oh, wow.
Oh, if you're not familiar withthe gene keys out there, it's,
it's a powerful modality to helpsupport your self awareness.
And you're, you're, Oh, I'mtelling you, every time I go
deeper into it, it's like, It'sjust more and more and more.
I understand myself for sure.

Alara (48:55):
It's incredible.
Very, very incredible.
That's what I would say is oneof my favorites is the Gene
Keys.
There we go.

Stacy (49:00):
See, we can.

Alara (49:02):
Oh, we might have to have another show.

Stacy (49:04):
There you go.
That's a favorite.
That's favorite.
Well, I just want to tell you, Iwant to tell you, Laura.
That you fully are expressingyour Siddhi today with the work
that you are doing.
I mean, very much, very muchhonor your wisdom.
I mean, it's very powerful andyou brought such new ways of
really being able to go into therunning wounds and into this

(49:27):
relationship with money.
So really very profound wisdom.
So thank you.
Thank you.
For that.
Thank you so

Alara (49:33):
much.

Luis (49:33):
Yeah, and now if people want to know a little bit more
about you, how they can workwith you and such, can you, uh,
share that contact information?

Alara (49:41):
Yes.
And I just want to say thank youso much, Stacey, for that,
because a lot of people don'talways understand what I'm
bringing to the table.
I'm told to just keep speaking.
So it's just very validatingwhen somebody sees it.
So thank you.
And yeah, absolutely.
You know, people can reach out,um, to me.
I'm all the social media,Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn,
Alara Sage.

(50:03):
And then my website isAlaraSage.
com.
And I love working withentrepreneurs and helping them.
You know, what I'm really goodat is seeing the energy in
businesses and where that energyisn't flowing and thus where the
resources isn't flowing, uh,within the business and bringing
in that.
very tangible strategy torealign that business.

(50:26):
And it's just so much fun for meand my clients have such
powerful results.
Um, and then I also have amembership, it's called
prosperity portal.
This is where people can come inand we do very powerful
activations around wealth.
So regardless of whether you'rean entrepreneur or a career, you
can join us.
And we really deep dive intothese limiting beliefs that we

(50:47):
spoke about today.
And we really rewire yoursubconscious mind, rewire your
energetic brain.
Bodies.
Uh, we tap into karma, we tapinto ancestral energies, all the
goodness there.
Um, so that's a very fun place.
And, and I also do, um, one offsessions as well.
Um, to really help peoplerecognize where in their life

(51:09):
and their business, theresources aren't flowing.
So

Luis (51:13):
amazing.

Alara (51:13):
Wow.
Thank you very much.

Luis (51:15):
Well, thank you so much, Lara.
Um, I can't put it in the samewords that Stacey did.
We're going to have to haveanother, uh, episode For you
guys to translate what that wasall about.
But I have learned a lot and Irespect it and I, and I, uh,
appreciate you being here.
So very much.
Thank

Alara (51:35):
you so much.
This was so much fun.
You two are just such a delight.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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