May 13, 2025 • 32 mins
Mai Moore is a distinguished social impact strategist and speaker. Moore shares her journey from tech startups to founding the nonprofit EYEJ (Empowering Youth Exploring Justice) and the company Boss Me In, which promotes intergenerational leadership and youth empowerment. She emphasizes the importance of awareness, breaking cycles, and creating a more equitable world. With insights into leveraging personal experiences and taking actionable steps, the conversation highlights how individuals can drive societal change and empower the next generation of leaders.
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Welcome back to the WayfinderShow.
I'm your host, Louis Hernandezand on today's Wayfinder Show,
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I'm honored to welcome apowerhouse of purpose and impact
by the name of My Moore.
She's a dynamic speaker, socialimpact strategist, and
divisionary behind movementslike empowering youth.
Exploring Justice and Boss MeIn, which is transforming the
way we think about leadership,equity, and youth empowerment
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with a rich background thatspans corporate success,
nonprofit innovation in over 500global speaking engagements.
MA is the.
Kind of leader who not onlyspeaks truth to power, but
equips the next generation to dothe same.
Her work has been recognizedwith multiple Anthem awards and
she's here today to share how wecan all step into purpose, break
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cycles, and create lastingchange.
My welcome to the WayfinderShow.
Thanks so much Louis, for havingme.
I'm excited to have thisconversation.
Yeah, likewise.
Let's start with your originstory.
What what who is my more wow,that's a big question.
So I act, I call myself hashtagalmost social impact.
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My personal mission is reallyabout awakening and awareness.
So that it can help people seemore clearly, so they can lead
properly in this new world.
And I'm really here.
My vision is really to create amore equitable, connected and
empowered world.
And you shared some of mybackground, but it started out
as in tech really, I was,involved with two startups that
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went public, and I did.
I was in tech for Wow, for over20 years.
And then to what you hadmentioned, I co-founded a Social
impact nonprofit, EYEJ,empowering Youth Exploring
Justice, empowering youngadvocates for change.
So I had served 2000 underservedyouth with the help of 1400
diverse adults.
How create change from just theidea.
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And after that I really wantedto get back into the national,
international space.
I chief.
Which is a very large women'sexecutive network of 20,000
women across the United States,and really was paying attention
to what was happening.
This was about three years ago,and that's when all the, great
resignation topics came up.
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Pay Gap, DEI, burnout all that,and created actually a
coalition.
We started doing speaker seriesfor young women because I feel
like we had set them up forfailure, meaning.
Chiefs are amazing and they haveso many stories and experiences
to share, but they, many of us,and it doesn't matter, male or
female, have been taught, towear a mask.
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You can't be vulnerable, youcan't share your story, things
like that.
And until we are honest andshare those experiences with
young people they will then beable to plan their life a little
bit better.
And so from that, I was reallyinspired and created a company
called Bossan, which youmentioned.
Which is really about bridgingthe intergenerational gap for
the future work throughconnection, inclusivity, and
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transforming leadership.
And the real differentiatorthere is intergenerational
leadership.
And so beyond that, yes, to yourpoint, I do public speaking,
like I mentioned, I'm veryfocused on awakening and
awareness right now just becauseof my reflections on the last 13
years.
And really how can I helphumanity or future of work or
culture better?
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Wow.
There's a lot there.
I like to let's, I wanna focuson you first before we get into
some of those subjects if wecould.
Sure.
How how do I put this?
With the.
Story of, transformationalleadership and all of that.
What was, what got youpersonally to really think about
this, right?
What, yeah.
Why even do this work?
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I grew up very multicultural.
My mother's Japanese I'm halfCaucasian.
My daughter is half Zambian.
And my mother always brought mearound different cultures.
I grew up in a community inCleveland Heights, Ohio.
That's very diverse.
And so when I was growing up, itwas really about who you are as
a human right versus the colorof your skin, your social
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economic level, what industry,what role you are in.
And so that's really stuck withme.
And and then, as I got into thetech industry.
What a lot of women were facingthree years ago with a great
resignation and having thisdesire to find, our purpose or
wanting to do something thathelps impact society or really
listening to the demands of GenZ.
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That was me when I was in thetech industry and I've always
been fast and I'm not sayingthat's a great thing, but I've
always been.
Visionary and fast.
And so I had a lot of thoseexperiences being in the tech
industry where, for example, youwere fighting to get to that one
spot as a female or a person ofcolor.
And then, people would goagainst each other fighting for
that one spot and.
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And just a corporate atmosphere.
So I had a lot of thoseexperiences, young and obviously
I had never thought in a millionyears I'd be working with young
people or start a nonprofit and,the teachings of spending time
with these young people andunderserved.
It just boggled my mind'cause Ijust didn't understand.
To be in a society where there's27,000 nonprofits, why are our
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young people in the state oftoxic stress?
And why is there so many peoplethat are underserved?
And these kind of differentsteps had kept growing inside of
me.
And then I had became a chiefand like I mentioned, was really
paying attention to what washappening in the corporate
space.
And I can't answer everything,but what has.
What has been inside of me isjust seeing these young people,
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whether through BOSSAN or EYEJ,and how, how young, so many
young people are, young leadersat such a young age, and are we
really preparing them for thefuture properly?
As an example, in five years,70% of our workforce is gonna be
millennials and Gen Z, and havewe set them up properly?
Look at our culture right now.
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Do we have intergenerationalleadership embedded into
cultures and corporations andworkplaces properly?
And are we being equitable?
That's always stood with me isthe whole justice and equity and
humanity standpoint.
That's always been like thisunderlying foundation.
And I care.
And again, I've been privilegedto spend time with so many
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different kind of people,literally working with
billionaires to returningcitizens.
And I just, I feel likeleadership is such a important
and urgent need for societyright now.
And there are so many people whoare.
Capable of leadership or areleaders who are not empowered
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properly, and then yet we haveleaders in place that are
literally ruling.
Humanity right now.
And so again, all these thingsconnect.
And I, like I mentioned, I feellike my calling right now is
really about awareness because Ihave seen how we make decisions
or funding decisions or whateverit is, innovation decisions.
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And we think we're makingimpact, but yet we're actually
taking us backwards as humanity.
And so being more aware, beingable to see more clearly will
help us make better decisions asleaders.
Was there did you find that onceyou left the tech world and
started doing it through yournonprofit, that you were
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empowered to be able to tell astory maybe that you couldn't
before because you were bound bythe Sure.
The walls of corporate America?
Absolutely.
Being an entrepreneur, there'smore freedom there, right?
And I think there.
Being to be seen, to be heard,to be valued to be appreciated
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which we see right now that alot of people really desire.
And yeah, that's definitely partof it.
And I think it was a lot aboutvoice.
When it's not equitable, thevoices, whether we bring people
to the table or not, it's stillnot equitable of how we
implement it or who we listen toor how we, how many we
communicate things.
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And I think there's a strongdesire for many people to get,
have their voice heard and beseen.
Sure.
Lady, I relate to them honestly.
Yeah.
I'm wondering if you can tell uslike.
A personal story you weresuddenly able in your speaking
engagement or what have you,that you were, you might have
been afraid to before incorporate America, that now you
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were able to, as you became anentrepreneur and and with that
sharing of that story, what wasyour own feeling there and the
reaction of others to it?
Yeah, that's a big question andI think I actually attribute
this a lot to entrepreneurshipis that and just, going through
what I have with these companiesand how people are I have many
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stories I think, be, forexample, to your point about
speaking.
When I've done many speakingengagements and, speaking to an
audience, that's not exactly thesame as me.
But then, seeing their eyeslight up like a light bulb just
went off, or, speaking to anaudience and having a seventh
grade boy run after me and saythank you.
What seventh grader does that ingeneral, right?
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And so those moments are reallywhat ignite like a few inside of
me.
And like I said, I'm very tiedto injustice.
So EYJ was actually created.
When the Trayvon Martin rulinghad happened and I just, it
didn't sit well with me.
That was really the fire thatlit the spark for EYEJ.
But it's those moments orworking with executive women
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chiefs or Gen Z in the futureworkspace, just seeing people's
passion come alive or the seeingpeople take action based in a
thriving, healthy, happy way.
That's what really makes mehappy and keeps me going.
Yeah.
So it, it sounds like you'veprobably recognized some.
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There, there's systemic barriershere for some of our youth and
out that are out there, right?
And I think you've identifiedsome of those, but and I like
what you're doing to try andencourage, empower people to, to
create change.
How is.
I guess what, are there anyactionable steps that you get
people to do to do that?
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To start feeling empowered toalso create the change?
Yeah so just to be clear, thesystemic barriers are not just.
It's a certain group of youth,it's pro, it's a majority of
young people that are faced withdepression.
And you think about examples of,when a young person has a
brilliant idea, they bring it tothe table and then we shut them
down, or we don't listen tothem.
So to your, to answer yourquestion, that's my job.
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My job is really to get morepeople involved.
And as an example, EYJ or bossand, corralling and.
Really reaching out to diversecommunity to come to the table
to, because I think a majorityof society does care about young
people.
And for them to see firsthand orhear their story of what they've
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been through.
A lot of people don't realizeit.
I think we have a systemicproblem in the United States
where a lot of people are verysheltered and comfortable.
And don't want to.
Deal with harder scenarios insome situations and don't have
to because they're not heldaccountable and until, and, but
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at the end of the day, we arehumans.
And when people hear people'sstories and see young people
step up to the plate, that'sinspiring.
And that educates and reminds usas older leaders like, oh yes.
I forgot.
This is our duty to empower thenext set generation of leaders.
And I think sometimes we forgetthat as older leaders and we
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have been there ourselves,right?
And so I know for me personally,like I don't want young people
to ever go through the thingsthat I went through.
And so that's my way of I don'tknow whether you call it
protection or guiding or.
Again, building awareness.
But and having conversation andbuilding relationship with
community, and again, it's aboutmessaging and showing and
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demonstrating by leadership.
These young actions that young,if you look at the Gen Z space
right now, so inspirational.
If you see the amount of Gen Zsthat are building businesses and
impact oriented, purpose-drivencompanies and who have desires
and passions for helping backcommunity, that's inspiring.
But people need to see that tosome, kids keep us in check.
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Kids are our foundation.
So sometimes we have to bereminded and the more that can
be shared with the world itreminds us.
Again, back to the basics ofhumanity, if that makes any
sense.
Yeah, it does.
So what, alright, as an, as ageezer, what adv advice, like
what are the are my blind spotsin general and how can I work on
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them?
Yeah.
Louis, I'd have to get to knowyou more.
You're a human.
In general, right?
Yeah.
But I think that's a bigquestion, right?
I think, again, the reminderthat our duty is to set up our
next generation of leaders.
Have we done that?
Have we guided them?
Have we prepared them?
Have we given them resources?
And are we reaching out to ourcommunity?
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'cause our community is beyondjust our current, what we know
of, right?
When you are.
Do doing an action.
It is in fact it is impactingeverybody and we are all
connected.
So are you going beyond yourcomfort zone to reach out to and
just an example of speakers orpeople maybe you mentor or.
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Helping people with resources tohelp guide them and prepare them
for this new world because we dohave, again, experience and
knowledge and resources.
But are we communicating andfinding out from our community
what they need?
Are we asking them and thenproviding that back?
Okay.
You talk a little bit about.
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You've mentioned the term awakeand awareness.
What exactly does that mean?
It means that it, what it meansis.
When I say, are we seeing, are,when I ask back, are you, are we
seeing clearly immediateresponses?
Probably I can see, I've been,I'm X I'm Generation X.
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I can see just fine.
But what I mean by that is, arewe looking beyond, again, that,
that comfort zone?
Are we looking beyond that the,our immediate kind of.
Space to really see what's goingon, whether it's with politics
that are happening now, whether,again, it's young people in our
community, maybe it's yourneighbor, I don't know, but.
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My point is are we able to seewhat's really going on and take
that in?
And I, again, I feel like we arein a society right now that
there's a level of strengththat's needed and we are
becoming aware of truths thatare in society, but oftentimes
we are retracting back.
Our comfort zone to say, oh,that doesn't impact me, or, I'm
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not responsible for that.
Or I'm gonna, okay, thank youfor making me aware, but I'm
gonna go along with my dailylife because I'm privileged.
Or, that's my, that this is mylife and that doesn't impact me.
When in fact it a hundredpercent, that's what we're
seeing right now, that itimpacts us.
We are.
Absolutely connected.
No matter if you're talkingabout government, if you're
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talking about corporations, ifyou're talking about within your
community, yeah, and so again,it's really about if we are able
to see more clearly the truth,then we are able to take action.
As leaders, we're able to makebetter decisions, we're able to
create better products, we'reable to innovate better because
we're keeping in mind thecollective community versus just
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our comfort zone or within ourlittle bubble, if that makes any
sense.
Yeah.
What about you, a lot of yourwork also revolves around
breaking cycles, right?
Are you talking about likeintergenerational cycles or what
exactly does that mean?
I.
Whew.
That's a big question too.
I think just, I'm a Gen Xer andso I think just in general, our
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generation is really big onbreaking cycles, whether that's
along our family, history,family matters because we're I
believe that we're really an inbetween generation, right?
We are.
Respecting our elders and seeingwhat they went through.
And obviously very differentupbringing than also keeping our
eyes open and being able to seewhat Gen Z are requiring, what
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the world they're in right now,what they're requesting, things
like that.
And cycles can mean that way.
Cycles can also mean disruptingsystems that it's not about
being.
A bad guy or to the left, it'sabout creating a more equitable
society, right?
How can we make things better sothat we can all be in our
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harmony?
Just not just a select few.
Yeah.
I'm really not sure what else togo to.
Go.
We've covered a lot of groundalready.
I think.
I, I if you were Yes, you did.
Yeah.
Can I ask you, this is a lot ofinformation and I'd like to know
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like how you're receiving this.
'cause this would help me, Ithink this would help your
viewers too, a lot of this workabout awareness is within self
leadership.
I think we're in a state rightnow where a lot of us, me, you,
whoever, is really having tolook at our own selves, right?
And what do you know, the goodand the bad, and how do we move
on past that?
I'm just curious how it, thisresonates with you.
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Is it so like far away and orwhat do you think about it?
No I thank you for asking.
I feel like I, to me this isactually quite I find it to be
actually quite obvious.
Some of these things.
I think anybody, when we get,I'm also a Gen Xer, when we get
to our level and we've had thesuccess we've had, right?
We start to think about legacyand the next generation and how
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to empower them and lead'em in.
And I think we.
We become more aware of them.
And I don't know personally likeI just joined a new company
because I wanted to be aroundyounger people to a, I could
learn more from them, but also,help them with my experience.
I don't think I, I also think I,I guess what I'm where I was
going through with this is thatI'd like to know from your
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perspective that theidentification of the issues is,
I think out there a lot.
I think we all talk about thisall the time, right?
There's, right now, our, we hada past election a recent
election where you can thinkwhatever you want, these topics
were front and center.
Yes.
And we were all on one side ofit or the other, and we can
agree or disagree, it doesn'tmatter.
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They are front and center topicsthat I think a lot of people are
aware of.
What I look for is moreactionable steps that we can all
take.
Yeah.
To move forward with it.
And that's where I was going andOkay.
I just dunno how to ask thosequestions.
How?
Yeah.
And I'm a person of action ifanybody knows me.
That's, I've demonstratedaction.
I believe in action.
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'cause to your point, Louis,like if we keep on talking about
this, we're just running aroundin circles, right?
And that's maybe what needs tobe ignited more in society is.
There needs to be more actionfor more community members
because the truth is, for thelast hundred, 200, 300 years,
there's been a select few thathas been doing most of the kind
of social impact, socialjustice, whatever you wanna call
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it, work When the truth is, weare all responsible for what's
happening now, and we need morepeople support.
And honestly, we as a male, weneed you more than ever because
the truth is, at the end of theday, I can do this work until.
So I'm 85 till I'm boo in theface and you could literally go
up to another male and make achange in 20 seconds that I
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could never do.
And so I really believe in menright now.
I believe that.
And I believe that a lot of menare really not happy with what's
happening with society and.
It really takes a man talking toanother man to say listen, this
is not right.
We need to change this, whateverit may be.
Or we need to be more equitable.
We need to put it, change thepolicy.
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We need more young people.
Being part of these meetings andbeing decision makers on
executive decisions.
I don't know what it is,everyone's in a different
scenario, really figuring out asa male, what do you really think
about what's going on right nowand what do you personally, what
are you personally passionateabout that you wanna see change?
And yes, should there be morefunding?
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And I'm just giving exampleshere.
Should there be more funding towomen owned businesses?
Should there be.
More women on the, in theboardroom making decisions and
executive decisions Should theboys club be, looked reviewed
and dismantled a little bit,right?
I don't, I can't answer that foryou.
I only, you can come up withwhat, what is that issue that is
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bothering you that you don'tlike right now?
And then go from there.
Because the truth is, Louis, youhold the power, you have the
tools and ex and experience toknow what.
With you and what doesn't andwhat change needs to happen.
But the truth is, everybodyneeds to step up to the plate
right now.
Because to your point, again,this is not, we're not in a
culture right now aboutRepublican against Democrat.
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It's not about that.
It's really about it's aboutbeing moral.
It's about humanity right nowfor sure.
Because everyone is gonnasuffer, or if not already in
some way.
Sure.
Except for select few.
Everybody defines sufferingtheir own way, right?
We can't judge it.
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Suffering is totally, I think alot of people, I to stand up for
my gender I think a lot of themfeel, a lot of men feel, a loss
of control and power in oursociety.
And I think there's an overall,a bigger there's a lot of mental
health issues that a lot of menneed to, yes.
Deal with right now to moveforward and become empowered.
We have a huge fentanyl andmethod meth Yes.
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Problem with young men in thiscountry.
Because of that, they feel likethere's a loss of hope in
amongst socioeconomic classesthat these kind of problems
didn't exist before.
Exactly.
Yeah, I think there's big issuesthere.
I'm also come from a backgroundwhere I wasn't invited into the
boys clubs that you mentioned,so very early on.
Yeah.
It'd be discouraging.
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And I, it sucked.
But then I just realized, allright, screw that club.
I'll make my own.
It'll be bigger and better.
So I just think amazing.
That's that's a.
I'm a father of two girls and Iencourage them to be the same
way.
When they get down, down onthemselves because of something
that they're not a part of, it'slike, all right, then make your
own club and make it bigger.
Make it be the club thateverybody wants to be a part of,
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and then you get to pick.
Yeah.
Who can be a part of it or not.
But there's no victimhood withus no, it's not about victim
hood.
But it's about moving forward.
Totally.
And I think, and I also, I thankyou.
'cause you might have languagethat I don't necessarily have
right.
As a female to haveconversations with decision
makers and that are male, as anexample.
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I don't know.
And so the more that we'recommunicating, having these
conversations again.
Going outside the box.
And really being open todifferent kind of people's
ideas, but then coming togetherwith those ideas and then
deciding what that action willbe, that's power.
Because there is, and thisculture, I truly believe what's
happening right now is aboutpeople.
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People have power.
We just need to know that wehave a power, we need more
confident in our power.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yeah.
I think we all do and we need torecognize it and feel, learn,
yeah.
How to become self-empowered.
Yes.
And yeah, a lot of it I thinkalso involves just having
self-awareness and I was I thinkI.
My, my wife and she's been onthe show before and comes on as
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I guess sometimes she does a,she's very, I, we joke that
she's very woo.
She, so she gets involved withwhen we talk about breaking
cycles, she gets involved withspiritual ancestors, and the
cycles there that we havecarried down through thousands
of years, generations down towhere we are now and how that
impacts us.
And it.
I start I kid with her about itbeing so woo and out there, over
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time I've just learned to acceptit and respect her because she's
right oftentimes and I think,always listen to women.
Yeah.
What's that?
I said always listen to women.
I'm just kidding.
No doubt.
That's all I have in my lifeyeah.
Aw, I don't really have anythingto listen to.
Yeah.
Anybody else to listen to.
But yeah, no, I think it is, Ithink when I'm thinking of the
terms that you are so involvedwith, like awaken awareness and
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breaking cycles and such, thisis where where it goes to for me
now.
'cause that's my world with mywife and such and that in our
conversations.
Yeah.
And that's the beauty and thecomplexity of humanity is that.
What might me, awakeningawareness for me might be
different than you.
And that's okay.
That's okay.
And that's how we come tocollective learnings and grow,
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right?
And then make decisions fromthat.
So that's why we're having thisconversation.
Yeah, totally.
So I think we're getting aroundthat point where we're going to.
Go into our world famousWayfinder four.
Maya, are you ready?
Yes.
You're scared, you hesitate.
No, I don't know what I don'tknow what to expect.
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It's really scary.
Okay.
Give us a hack, like a life hackthat you use.
Oh, wow.
Life hack.
Oh, okay.
I just learned this from MeghanMarkle new Netflix series is
that she put takes towels andshe puts lavender oil on them
and freezes'em.
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And I did that.
So if you just came in from likea run or exercising or it's a
hot day, you just literally takeone these towels and it's like a
game changer to just calm downand get refreshed.
Oh, I like that.
That's cool.
Yeah, there's a lot.
We've had a show with I thinkhis name was Matt Ley from
Albuquerque.
He, all he talks about is coldtherapy.
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And how you use it to relax andall that.
That's a great hack.
Yeah.
You have anxiety.
How easy is that?
Yeah, very easy.
If you have your like panicattack or anxiety, boom, take my
towel.
And it just it just checks youinto a simple state.
And do you put it on your head,your neck, or where?
Whatever you want.
Just hold it.
Yeah.
I put it on my head, but dowhatever you want.
Okay.
I love it.
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Yeah, that's cool.
How about a favorite?
This could be a book a show anactivity, whatever you want.
Favorite book is the FourAgreements.
Oh yeah.
Miguel Ruiz.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, that's a good one.
My wife and I actually read,reread that one together
recently.
Yes.
It's a great reminder.
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Yeah, we, every couple years.
Yes.
It very good.
How about this is right up youralley, a piece of advice for
your younger self.
You matter.
Ooh, say more.
You are so incredibly importantfor this world.
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You are unique, you are special.
Every kind of dream, every kindof desire or passion that you
have, it really does meansomething.
And you need to keep focused onthat for your life.
I love it.
So finally the last one is,either a limiting belief or a
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big opportunity?
Oh, I'm around big opportunitiesall the time.
Big opportunities is we hold thepower to create great change and
there's a lot of really amazinginitiatives happening.
Where not just young people, butadults too are getting
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innovative and coming togetherand being around like-minded
persons to care for people andcreate a better world.
I think that's a hugeopportunity.
There's a rebirth happeningright now.
And so we have to be able toflow and we have to be able to
change with these times.
Or you can choose to also staystatus quo and get left behind.
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Yeah.
I love that.
I think I'm also Gen X, like youand I feel like the older I've
gotten, the younger I feel.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
Do Isn't that funny?
Like I, I'm in better shape thanI've ever been in my life.
I feel more aware I'm a betterperson, all of that.
And so I think there is a lot ofopportunity for especially our
generation to Absolutelyabsolutely.
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And I see my kids now, they'rein their late teen years now and
they are just so full of anxietyand all of that stuff for that.
And I see so much talent andability and I'm like, how are
you?
But you can't, you gotta let'emgo through their own process,
but Understood.
I have a soon be 21-year-old andYeah.
I feel for these young people.
Yeah.
The overstimulation the pressureto succeed.
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It's just it's ridiculous,honestly.
Yeah.
Totally let a kid be a kid.
So my on that note too, by theway I can't mention, but I'm
going through a process rightnow that is, they're screening
me for everything in mybackground and all this stuff.
And in going through thisprocess, I'm reliving like a lot
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of my childhood.
Yeah.
And I'm like, oh my God, I was aknucklehead.
Like all that.
And I got away with it because,we grew up in, we were probably
the last generation to be ableto be kids.
And once you're 18, it got wipedout.
And these kids can't be thatfrom a very young age.
They cannot screw up becauseit'll haunt them for life.
And it's like they never reallyget to be kids anymore.
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And it's sad, it's, yeah.
And I look, I look at my ownself as my parenting, I'm guilty
of it.
I put pressure on my daughter'cause I knew that she had to be
strong for this world.
I didn't have a choice.
But I think about to your point,man, we were, we rode bikes and
had to be home by dinner andthere was no cell phone and.
You went over your friend'shouse and you did your homework
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or whatever it was so muchsimpler.
And but at the same time, Ithink the more that we embrace
this new world, it'll cause lessanxiety and like all we can do
is move forward.
That's all we can do, yeah,totally.
Bye.
If people wanted to get to knowyou a little more, get know more
about you how can they do that?
Thanks Louis.
You can definitely check out mywebsite at my MAI more MOOR
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e.com.
I love to speak to differentkind of communities and groups
or company settings aboutawakening awareness and always
love to connect with new people.
It's an adventure.
Excellent.
Thank you.
Look forward to following youand seeing you create more great
change in the world.
So thank you for doing.
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I'm honored to welcome apowerhouse of purpose and impact
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She's a dynamic speaker, socialimpact strategist, and
divisionary behind movementslike empowering youth.
Exploring Justice and Boss MeIn, which is transforming the
way we think about leadership,equity, and youth empowerment
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with a rich background thatspans corporate success,
nonprofit innovation in over 500global speaking engagements.
MA is the.
Kind of leader who not onlyspeaks truth to power, but
equips the next generation to dothe same.
Her work has been recognizedwith multiple Anthem awards and
she's here today to share how wecan all step into purpose, break
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cycles, and create lastingchange.
My welcome to the WayfinderShow.
Thanks so much Louis, for havingme.
I'm excited to have thisconversation.
Yeah, likewise.
Let's start with your originstory.
What what who is my more wow,that's a big question.
So I act, I call myself hashtagalmost social impact.
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My personal mission is reallyabout awakening and awareness.
So that it can help people seemore clearly, so they can lead
properly in this new world.
And I'm really here.
My vision is really to create amore equitable, connected and
empowered world.
And you shared some of mybackground, but it started out
as in tech really, I was,involved with two startups that
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went public, and I did.
I was in tech for Wow, for over20 years.
And then to what you hadmentioned, I co-founded a Social
impact nonprofit, EYEJ,empowering Youth Exploring
Justice, empowering youngadvocates for change.
So I had served 2000 underservedyouth with the help of 1400
diverse adults.
How create change from just theidea.
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And after that I really wantedto get back into the national,
international space.
I chief.
Which is a very large women'sexecutive network of 20,000
women across the United States,and really was paying attention
to what was happening.
This was about three years ago,and that's when all the, great
resignation topics came up.
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Pay Gap, DEI, burnout all that,and created actually a
coalition.
We started doing speaker seriesfor young women because I feel
like we had set them up forfailure, meaning.
Chiefs are amazing and they haveso many stories and experiences
to share, but they, many of us,and it doesn't matter, male or
female, have been taught, towear a mask.
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You can't be vulnerable, youcan't share your story, things
like that.
And until we are honest andshare those experiences with
young people they will then beable to plan their life a little
bit better.
And so from that, I was reallyinspired and created a company
called Bossan, which youmentioned.
Which is really about bridgingthe intergenerational gap for
the future work throughconnection, inclusivity, and
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transforming leadership.
And the real differentiatorthere is intergenerational
leadership.
And so beyond that, yes, to yourpoint, I do public speaking,
like I mentioned, I'm veryfocused on awakening and
awareness right now just becauseof my reflections on the last 13
years.
And really how can I helphumanity or future of work or
culture better?
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Wow.
There's a lot there.
I like to let's, I wanna focuson you first before we get into
some of those subjects if wecould.
Sure.
How how do I put this?
With the.
Story of, transformationalleadership and all of that.
What was, what got youpersonally to really think about
this, right?
What, yeah.
Why even do this work?
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I grew up very multicultural.
My mother's Japanese I'm halfCaucasian.
My daughter is half Zambian.
And my mother always brought mearound different cultures.
I grew up in a community inCleveland Heights, Ohio.
That's very diverse.
And so when I was growing up, itwas really about who you are as
a human right versus the colorof your skin, your social
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economic level, what industry,what role you are in.
And so that's really stuck withme.
And and then, as I got into thetech industry.
What a lot of women were facingthree years ago with a great
resignation and having thisdesire to find, our purpose or
wanting to do something thathelps impact society or really
listening to the demands of GenZ.
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That was me when I was in thetech industry and I've always
been fast and I'm not sayingthat's a great thing, but I've
always been.
Visionary and fast.
And so I had a lot of thoseexperiences being in the tech
industry where, for example, youwere fighting to get to that one
spot as a female or a person ofcolor.
And then, people would goagainst each other fighting for
that one spot and.
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And just a corporate atmosphere.
So I had a lot of thoseexperiences, young and obviously
I had never thought in a millionyears I'd be working with young
people or start a nonprofit and,the teachings of spending time
with these young people andunderserved.
It just boggled my mind'cause Ijust didn't understand.
To be in a society where there's27,000 nonprofits, why are our
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young people in the state oftoxic stress?
And why is there so many peoplethat are underserved?
And these kind of differentsteps had kept growing inside of
me.
And then I had became a chiefand like I mentioned, was really
paying attention to what washappening in the corporate
space.
And I can't answer everything,but what has.
What has been inside of me isjust seeing these young people,
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whether through BOSSAN or EYEJ,and how, how young, so many
young people are, young leadersat such a young age, and are we
really preparing them for thefuture properly?
As an example, in five years,70% of our workforce is gonna be
millennials and Gen Z, and havewe set them up properly?
Look at our culture right now.
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Do we have intergenerationalleadership embedded into
cultures and corporations andworkplaces properly?
And are we being equitable?
That's always stood with me isthe whole justice and equity and
humanity standpoint.
That's always been like thisunderlying foundation.
And I care.
And again, I've been privilegedto spend time with so many
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different kind of people,literally working with
billionaires to returningcitizens.
And I just, I feel likeleadership is such a important
and urgent need for societyright now.
And there are so many people whoare.
Capable of leadership or areleaders who are not empowered
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properly, and then yet we haveleaders in place that are
literally ruling.
Humanity right now.
And so again, all these thingsconnect.
And I, like I mentioned, I feellike my calling right now is
really about awareness because Ihave seen how we make decisions
or funding decisions or whateverit is, innovation decisions.
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And we think we're makingimpact, but yet we're actually
taking us backwards as humanity.
And so being more aware, beingable to see more clearly will
help us make better decisions asleaders.
Was there did you find that onceyou left the tech world and
started doing it through yournonprofit, that you were
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empowered to be able to tell astory maybe that you couldn't
before because you were bound bythe Sure.
The walls of corporate America?
Absolutely.
Being an entrepreneur, there'smore freedom there, right?
And I think there.
Being to be seen, to be heard,to be valued to be appreciated
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which we see right now that alot of people really desire.
And yeah, that's definitely partof it.
And I think it was a lot aboutvoice.
When it's not equitable, thevoices, whether we bring people
to the table or not, it's stillnot equitable of how we
implement it or who we listen toor how we, how many we
communicate things.
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And I think there's a strongdesire for many people to get,
have their voice heard and beseen.
Sure.
Lady, I relate to them honestly.
Yeah.
I'm wondering if you can tell uslike.
A personal story you weresuddenly able in your speaking
engagement or what have you,that you were, you might have
been afraid to before incorporate America, that now you
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were able to, as you became anentrepreneur and and with that
sharing of that story, what wasyour own feeling there and the
reaction of others to it?
Yeah, that's a big question andI think I actually attribute
this a lot to entrepreneurshipis that and just, going through
what I have with these companiesand how people are I have many
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stories I think, be, forexample, to your point about
speaking.
When I've done many speakingengagements and, speaking to an
audience, that's not exactly thesame as me.
But then, seeing their eyeslight up like a light bulb just
went off, or, speaking to anaudience and having a seventh
grade boy run after me and saythank you.
What seventh grader does that ingeneral, right?
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And so those moments are reallywhat ignite like a few inside of
me.
And like I said, I'm very tiedto injustice.
So EYJ was actually created.
When the Trayvon Martin rulinghad happened and I just, it
didn't sit well with me.
That was really the fire thatlit the spark for EYEJ.
But it's those moments orworking with executive women
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chiefs or Gen Z in the futureworkspace, just seeing people's
passion come alive or the seeingpeople take action based in a
thriving, healthy, happy way.
That's what really makes mehappy and keeps me going.
Yeah.
So it, it sounds like you'veprobably recognized some.
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There, there's systemic barriershere for some of our youth and
out that are out there, right?
And I think you've identifiedsome of those, but and I like
what you're doing to try andencourage, empower people to, to
create change.
How is.
I guess what, are there anyactionable steps that you get
people to do to do that?
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To start feeling empowered toalso create the change?
Yeah so just to be clear, thesystemic barriers are not just.
It's a certain group of youth,it's pro, it's a majority of
young people that are faced withdepression.
And you think about examples of,when a young person has a
brilliant idea, they bring it tothe table and then we shut them
down, or we don't listen tothem.
So to your, to answer yourquestion, that's my job.
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My job is really to get morepeople involved.
And as an example, EYJ or bossand, corralling and.
Really reaching out to diversecommunity to come to the table
to, because I think a majorityof society does care about young
people.
And for them to see firsthand orhear their story of what they've
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been through.
A lot of people don't realizeit.
I think we have a systemicproblem in the United States
where a lot of people are verysheltered and comfortable.
And don't want to.
Deal with harder scenarios insome situations and don't have
to because they're not heldaccountable and until, and, but
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at the end of the day, we arehumans.
And when people hear people'sstories and see young people
step up to the plate, that'sinspiring.
And that educates and reminds usas older leaders like, oh yes.
I forgot.
This is our duty to empower thenext set generation of leaders.
And I think sometimes we forgetthat as older leaders and we
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have been there ourselves,right?
And so I know for me personally,like I don't want young people
to ever go through the thingsthat I went through.
And so that's my way of I don'tknow whether you call it
protection or guiding or.
Again, building awareness.
But and having conversation andbuilding relationship with
community, and again, it's aboutmessaging and showing and
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demonstrating by leadership.
These young actions that young,if you look at the Gen Z space
right now, so inspirational.
If you see the amount of Gen Zsthat are building businesses and
impact oriented, purpose-drivencompanies and who have desires
and passions for helping backcommunity, that's inspiring.
But people need to see that tosome, kids keep us in check.
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Kids are our foundation.
So sometimes we have to bereminded and the more that can
be shared with the world itreminds us.
Again, back to the basics ofhumanity, if that makes any
sense.
Yeah, it does.
So what, alright, as an, as ageezer, what adv advice, like
what are the are my blind spotsin general and how can I work on
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them?
Yeah.
Louis, I'd have to get to knowyou more.
You're a human.
In general, right?
Yeah.
But I think that's a bigquestion, right?
I think, again, the reminderthat our duty is to set up our
next generation of leaders.
Have we done that?
Have we guided them?
Have we prepared them?
Have we given them resources?
And are we reaching out to ourcommunity?
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'cause our community is beyondjust our current, what we know
of, right?
When you are.
Do doing an action.
It is in fact it is impactingeverybody and we are all
connected.
So are you going beyond yourcomfort zone to reach out to and
just an example of speakers orpeople maybe you mentor or.
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Helping people with resources tohelp guide them and prepare them
for this new world because we dohave, again, experience and
knowledge and resources.
But are we communicating andfinding out from our community
what they need?
Are we asking them and thenproviding that back?
Okay.
You talk a little bit about.
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You've mentioned the term awakeand awareness.
What exactly does that mean?
It means that it, what it meansis.
When I say, are we seeing, are,when I ask back, are you, are we
seeing clearly immediateresponses?
Probably I can see, I've been,I'm X I'm Generation X.
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I can see just fine.
But what I mean by that is, arewe looking beyond, again, that,
that comfort zone?
Are we looking beyond that the,our immediate kind of.
Space to really see what's goingon, whether it's with politics
that are happening now, whether,again, it's young people in our
community, maybe it's yourneighbor, I don't know, but.
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My point is are we able to seewhat's really going on and take
that in?
And I, again, I feel like we arein a society right now that
there's a level of strengththat's needed and we are
becoming aware of truths thatare in society, but oftentimes
we are retracting back.
Our comfort zone to say, oh,that doesn't impact me, or, I'm
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not responsible for that.
Or I'm gonna, okay, thank youfor making me aware, but I'm
gonna go along with my dailylife because I'm privileged.
Or, that's my, that this is mylife and that doesn't impact me.
When in fact it a hundredpercent, that's what we're
seeing right now, that itimpacts us.
We are.
Absolutely connected.
No matter if you're talkingabout government, if you're
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talking about corporations, ifyou're talking about within your
community, yeah, and so again,it's really about if we are able
to see more clearly the truth,then we are able to take action.
As leaders, we're able to makebetter decisions, we're able to
create better products, we'reable to innovate better because
we're keeping in mind thecollective community versus just
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our comfort zone or within ourlittle bubble, if that makes any
sense.
Yeah.
What about you, a lot of yourwork also revolves around
breaking cycles, right?
Are you talking about likeintergenerational cycles or what
exactly does that mean?
I.
Whew.
That's a big question too.
I think just, I'm a Gen Xer andso I think just in general, our
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generation is really big onbreaking cycles, whether that's
along our family, history,family matters because we're I
believe that we're really an inbetween generation, right?
We are.
Respecting our elders and seeingwhat they went through.
And obviously very differentupbringing than also keeping our
eyes open and being able to seewhat Gen Z are requiring, what
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the world they're in right now,what they're requesting, things
like that.
And cycles can mean that way.
Cycles can also mean disruptingsystems that it's not about
being.
A bad guy or to the left, it'sabout creating a more equitable
society, right?
How can we make things better sothat we can all be in our
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harmony?
Just not just a select few.
Yeah.
I'm really not sure what else togo to.
Go.
We've covered a lot of groundalready.
I think.
I, I if you were Yes, you did.
Yeah.
Can I ask you, this is a lot ofinformation and I'd like to know
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like how you're receiving this.
'cause this would help me, Ithink this would help your
viewers too, a lot of this workabout awareness is within self
leadership.
I think we're in a state rightnow where a lot of us, me, you,
whoever, is really having tolook at our own selves, right?
And what do you know, the goodand the bad, and how do we move
on past that?
I'm just curious how it, thisresonates with you.
(18:39):
Is it so like far away and orwhat do you think about it?
No I thank you for asking.
I feel like I, to me this isactually quite I find it to be
actually quite obvious.
Some of these things.
I think anybody, when we get,I'm also a Gen Xer, when we get
to our level and we've had thesuccess we've had, right?
We start to think about legacyand the next generation and how
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to empower them and lead'em in.
And I think we.
We become more aware of them.
And I don't know personally likeI just joined a new company
because I wanted to be aroundyounger people to a, I could
learn more from them, but also,help them with my experience.
I don't think I, I also think I,I guess what I'm where I was
going through with this is thatI'd like to know from your
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perspective that theidentification of the issues is,
I think out there a lot.
I think we all talk about thisall the time, right?
There's, right now, our, we hada past election a recent
election where you can thinkwhatever you want, these topics
were front and center.
Yes.
And we were all on one side ofit or the other, and we can
agree or disagree, it doesn'tmatter.
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They are front and center topicsthat I think a lot of people are
aware of.
What I look for is moreactionable steps that we can all
take.
Yeah.
To move forward with it.
And that's where I was going andOkay.
I just dunno how to ask thosequestions.
How?
Yeah.
And I'm a person of action ifanybody knows me.
That's, I've demonstratedaction.
I believe in action.
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'cause to your point, Louis,like if we keep on talking about
this, we're just running aroundin circles, right?
And that's maybe what needs tobe ignited more in society is.
There needs to be more actionfor more community members
because the truth is, for thelast hundred, 200, 300 years,
there's been a select few thathas been doing most of the kind
of social impact, socialjustice, whatever you wanna call
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it, work When the truth is, weare all responsible for what's
happening now, and we need morepeople support.
And honestly, we as a male, weneed you more than ever because
the truth is, at the end of theday, I can do this work until.
So I'm 85 till I'm boo in theface and you could literally go
up to another male and make achange in 20 seconds that I
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could never do.
And so I really believe in menright now.
I believe that.
And I believe that a lot of menare really not happy with what's
happening with society and.
It really takes a man talking toanother man to say listen, this
is not right.
We need to change this, whateverit may be.
Or we need to be more equitable.
We need to put it, change thepolicy.
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We need more young people.
Being part of these meetings andbeing decision makers on
executive decisions.
I don't know what it is,everyone's in a different
scenario, really figuring out asa male, what do you really think
about what's going on right nowand what do you personally, what
are you personally passionateabout that you wanna see change?
And yes, should there be morefunding?
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And I'm just giving exampleshere.
Should there be more funding towomen owned businesses?
Should there be.
More women on the, in theboardroom making decisions and
executive decisions Should theboys club be, looked reviewed
and dismantled a little bit,right?
I don't, I can't answer that foryou.
I only, you can come up withwhat, what is that issue that is
(21:54):
bothering you that you don'tlike right now?
And then go from there.
Because the truth is, Louis, youhold the power, you have the
tools and ex and experience toknow what.
With you and what doesn't andwhat change needs to happen.
But the truth is, everybodyneeds to step up to the plate
right now.
Because to your point, again,this is not, we're not in a
culture right now aboutRepublican against Democrat.
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It's not about that.
It's really about it's aboutbeing moral.
It's about humanity right nowfor sure.
Because everyone is gonnasuffer, or if not already in
some way.
Sure.
Except for select few.
Everybody defines sufferingtheir own way, right?
We can't judge it.
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Suffering is totally, I think alot of people, I to stand up for
my gender I think a lot of themfeel, a lot of men feel, a loss
of control and power in oursociety.
And I think there's an overall,a bigger there's a lot of mental
health issues that a lot of menneed to, yes.
Deal with right now to moveforward and become empowered.
We have a huge fentanyl andmethod meth Yes.
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Problem with young men in thiscountry.
Because of that, they feel likethere's a loss of hope in
amongst socioeconomic classesthat these kind of problems
didn't exist before.
Exactly.
Yeah, I think there's big issuesthere.
I'm also come from a backgroundwhere I wasn't invited into the
boys clubs that you mentioned,so very early on.
Yeah.
It'd be discouraging.
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And I, it sucked.
But then I just realized, allright, screw that club.
I'll make my own.
It'll be bigger and better.
So I just think amazing.
That's that's a.
I'm a father of two girls and Iencourage them to be the same
way.
When they get down, down onthemselves because of something
that they're not a part of, it'slike, all right, then make your
own club and make it bigger.
Make it be the club thateverybody wants to be a part of,
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and then you get to pick.
Yeah.
Who can be a part of it or not.
But there's no victimhood withus no, it's not about victim
hood.
But it's about moving forward.
Totally.
And I think, and I also, I thankyou.
'cause you might have languagethat I don't necessarily have
right.
As a female to haveconversations with decision
makers and that are male, as anexample.
(24:02):
I don't know.
And so the more that we'recommunicating, having these
conversations again.
Going outside the box.
And really being open todifferent kind of people's
ideas, but then coming togetherwith those ideas and then
deciding what that action willbe, that's power.
Because there is, and thisculture, I truly believe what's
happening right now is aboutpeople.
(24:22):
People have power.
We just need to know that wehave a power, we need more
confident in our power.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yeah.
I think we all do and we need torecognize it and feel, learn,
yeah.
How to become self-empowered.
Yes.
And yeah, a lot of it I thinkalso involves just having
self-awareness and I was I thinkI.
My, my wife and she's been onthe show before and comes on as
(24:46):
I guess sometimes she does a,she's very, I, we joke that
she's very woo.
She, so she gets involved withwhen we talk about breaking
cycles, she gets involved withspiritual ancestors, and the
cycles there that we havecarried down through thousands
of years, generations down towhere we are now and how that
impacts us.
And it.
I start I kid with her about itbeing so woo and out there, over
(25:09):
time I've just learned to acceptit and respect her because she's
right oftentimes and I think,always listen to women.
Yeah.
What's that?
I said always listen to women.
I'm just kidding.
No doubt.
That's all I have in my lifeyeah.
Aw, I don't really have anythingto listen to.
Yeah.
Anybody else to listen to.
But yeah, no, I think it is, Ithink when I'm thinking of the
terms that you are so involvedwith, like awaken awareness and
(25:31):
breaking cycles and such, thisis where where it goes to for me
now.
'cause that's my world with mywife and such and that in our
conversations.
Yeah.
And that's the beauty and thecomplexity of humanity is that.
What might me, awakeningawareness for me might be
different than you.
And that's okay.
That's okay.
And that's how we come tocollective learnings and grow,
(25:53):
right?
And then make decisions fromthat.
So that's why we're having thisconversation.
Yeah, totally.
So I think we're getting aroundthat point where we're going to.
Go into our world famousWayfinder four.
Maya, are you ready?
Yes.
You're scared, you hesitate.
No, I don't know what I don'tknow what to expect.
(26:15):
It's really scary.
Okay.
Give us a hack, like a life hackthat you use.
Oh, wow.
Life hack.
Oh, okay.
I just learned this from MeghanMarkle new Netflix series is
that she put takes towels andshe puts lavender oil on them
and freezes'em.
(26:35):
And I did that.
So if you just came in from likea run or exercising or it's a
hot day, you just literally takeone these towels and it's like a
game changer to just calm downand get refreshed.
Oh, I like that.
That's cool.
Yeah, there's a lot.
We've had a show with I thinkhis name was Matt Ley from
Albuquerque.
He, all he talks about is coldtherapy.
(26:56):
And how you use it to relax andall that.
That's a great hack.
Yeah.
You have anxiety.
How easy is that?
Yeah, very easy.
If you have your like panicattack or anxiety, boom, take my
towel.
And it just it just checks youinto a simple state.
And do you put it on your head,your neck, or where?
Whatever you want.
Just hold it.
Yeah.
I put it on my head, but dowhatever you want.
Okay.
I love it.
(27:16):
Yeah, that's cool.
How about a favorite?
This could be a book a show anactivity, whatever you want.
Favorite book is the FourAgreements.
Oh yeah.
Miguel Ruiz.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, that's a good one.
My wife and I actually read,reread that one together
recently.
Yes.
It's a great reminder.
(27:37):
Yeah, we, every couple years.
Yes.
It very good.
How about this is right up youralley, a piece of advice for
your younger self.
You matter.
Ooh, say more.
You are so incredibly importantfor this world.
(27:58):
You are unique, you are special.
Every kind of dream, every kindof desire or passion that you
have, it really does meansomething.
And you need to keep focused onthat for your life.
I love it.
So finally the last one is,either a limiting belief or a
(28:20):
big opportunity?
Oh, I'm around big opportunitiesall the time.
Big opportunities is we hold thepower to create great change and
there's a lot of really amazinginitiatives happening.
Where not just young people, butadults too are getting
(28:40):
innovative and coming togetherand being around like-minded
persons to care for people andcreate a better world.
I think that's a hugeopportunity.
There's a rebirth happeningright now.
And so we have to be able toflow and we have to be able to
change with these times.
Or you can choose to also staystatus quo and get left behind.
(29:01):
Yeah.
I love that.
I think I'm also Gen X, like youand I feel like the older I've
gotten, the younger I feel.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
Do Isn't that funny?
Like I, I'm in better shape thanI've ever been in my life.
I feel more aware I'm a betterperson, all of that.
And so I think there is a lot ofopportunity for especially our
generation to Absolutelyabsolutely.
(29:24):
And I see my kids now, they'rein their late teen years now and
they are just so full of anxietyand all of that stuff for that.
And I see so much talent andability and I'm like, how are
you?
But you can't, you gotta let'emgo through their own process,
but Understood.
I have a soon be 21-year-old andYeah.
I feel for these young people.
Yeah.
The overstimulation the pressureto succeed.
(29:46):
It's just it's ridiculous,honestly.
Yeah.
Totally let a kid be a kid.
So my on that note too, by theway I can't mention, but I'm
going through a process rightnow that is, they're screening
me for everything in mybackground and all this stuff.
And in going through thisprocess, I'm reliving like a lot
(30:08):
of my childhood.
Yeah.
And I'm like, oh my God, I was aknucklehead.
Like all that.
And I got away with it because,we grew up in, we were probably
the last generation to be ableto be kids.
And once you're 18, it got wipedout.
And these kids can't be thatfrom a very young age.
They cannot screw up becauseit'll haunt them for life.
And it's like they never reallyget to be kids anymore.
(30:30):
And it's sad, it's, yeah.
And I look, I look at my ownself as my parenting, I'm guilty
of it.
I put pressure on my daughter'cause I knew that she had to be
strong for this world.
I didn't have a choice.
But I think about to your point,man, we were, we rode bikes and
had to be home by dinner andthere was no cell phone and.
You went over your friend'shouse and you did your homework
(30:51):
or whatever it was so muchsimpler.
And but at the same time, Ithink the more that we embrace
this new world, it'll cause lessanxiety and like all we can do
is move forward.
That's all we can do, yeah,totally.
Bye.
If people wanted to get to knowyou a little more, get know more
about you how can they do that?
Thanks Louis.
You can definitely check out mywebsite at my MAI more MOOR
(31:15):
e.com.
I love to speak to differentkind of communities and groups
or company settings aboutawakening awareness and always
love to connect with new people.
It's an adventure.
Excellent.
Thank you.
Look forward to following youand seeing you create more great
change in the world.
So thank you for doing.
(31:35):
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