In this episode, Joe chats with Van Lai-DuMone—TEDx speaker, CEO of Worksmart Advantage, and author of the acclaimed book What If Pigs Can Fly?. With glowing five-star reviews, Van’s book is a practical guide to harnessing creativity and curiosity for personal and professional success.
Together, they explore "What if" thinking, the power of play, and breaking limiting beliefs.
Van shares the inspiration behind her book and actionable insights to spark creativity, making this episode a must-listen for leaders and life-long learners!
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