November 11, 2025 • 59 mins
Feeling stuck, blocked, or disconnected? Healing your root, sacral, and solar plexus chakras can help you reclaim your personal power, restore your energy alignment, and live with clarity, confidence, and purpose.
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In this episode, Wendy DeRosa dives deep into the lower three chakras, the foundation of your energy system. These energy centers hold the keys to your sense of safety, creativity, and personal power—but they can also carry historic wounds, ancestral trauma, unprocessed emotions, and limiting beliefs.
You’ll discover why healing the lower chakras is essential, especially in these transformative times, and how releasing energetic blocks in these centers can free you from fear, scarcity, and old conditioning. I’ll also guide you through what it means to embody your power in a grounded, ethical, and aligned way.
This episode will leave you with valuable insights and a practical approach to help you reclaim your personal power and cultivate the grounded presence necessary to create lasting change in your life and in the world.
Root into your strength, reconnect with your authentic self, and rise into the light of your full potential.
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✨ If you’d like to delve deeper into your root, sacral, and solar plexus, explore this companion resource: Healing the Lower Chakras: Root, Sacral & Solar Plexus Practices to Embody Your Power
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SPEAKER_00 (00:02):
Welcome to the Wendy DeRosa sessions, a place to
ground your energy, trust yourintuition, and awaken the light
within you.
Hello and welcome to thisepisode, Embodying Your Power,
the Essential Work of Healingthe Lower Chakras.
I'm Wendy DeRosa.
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beneficial for them.
And today we're going to talkabout the chakra system and very
specifically the lower threechakras.
I've been a chakra fan since uhmy late teens, early 20s, as
they have helped me understandmore about myself in terms of
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the wounds that I'm here to healand the power that I'm here to
uncover and embody in this life.
And I hope that in just thisinformation, it helps you kind
of have a similar understandingof yourself.
It's interesting because thechakras, I'll give you a little
chakra history, which is thatthey were first um introduced in
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the Vedic scriptures very earlyon, somewhere around um 700 and
500 BCE, and then mentionedlater in the Upanishads.
And these are sacred uh Hindutexts, Indian texts.
Um, and they are they were uhthey were in Sanskrit and in the
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Sanskrit word chakras meanswheel or lotus in the body.
Um they are perceived, they arenot actual, which means that
they are part of our subtlebody, and we don't see them with
our bare eyes.
We actually see them through ourintuitive sense of envisioning,
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so the clairvoyant sense oftuning in and perceiving or
sensing or feeling, and theybecome present to us the more
that we meditate on them andtune into them.
Um, I'll also add an interestinglittle tidbit here, which is
that the chakras were notnecessarily introduced with
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color.
They actually were not initiallydepicted with color, they were
just wheels of energy or orvortexes of power, energy in the
body.
And there's been severalintroductions or mentions of
color in the early 20th century.
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So there's a book called UmSerpent Power by Sir John
Woodruff in 1919 that mentionsthe chakras.
And then in 1927, there wasanother book introducing the
rainbow color of the chakras uma little bit later on, and that
was by Charles W.
Leadbeaters, or Leadbeater,excuse me, in 1927.
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But it wasn't until the 1970swhen there was more of a
metaphysical movement, um, whenessentially we had a big
migration of meditation and yogafrom India to the US, that the
chakras became more associatedwith color and then deeper
attributes of um thepsychological components of the
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chakras, um, including how we,you know, how we engage socially
or how we relate to ourselves ona personal level and on a power
level uh with the chakras.
So a lot of that came from moreof Carl Jung's work, um, and
then Carolyn Mace, and I knowthat um there's been some other
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teachers along the way, and adaya Judith and others that have
um you know evolved theunderstanding of the of the
chakras, they become quite aprofound um resource for us in
understanding that some of thewe'll say issues we carry in the
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tissues aren't always mental.
They are, in fact, deeply rootedin our energetic anatomy, in our
subtle body, and then thereforein our physical body.
And so it can be very helpfulfor us to understand the chakra
system.
And what I would like to talkabout is very specifically the
value and importance of thelower three chakras in our
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personal growth and in ourspiritual growth.
In in spiritual growth work,there's a lot of infinite
emphasis on the mind and theexpansion of the upper chakras.
That means a higher realms, um,expanded awareness and expanded
consciousness, the clairvoyantsense, remote viewing, um,
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connection to spirit guides andangels, life on the other side.
Um, and you know, even simplythe concepts of love and
compassion and kindness andgenerosity, which are aspects of
the heart chakra, these are veryum relatable uh themes within
spiritual growth, becausespiritual growth is about the
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upper chakras.
It's the more we are open in theheart and in the throat and the
third eye in the crown, the morewe have expanded awareness of
spirituality.
But from my experience, a lot ofyears, three decades now, in
this work, unless we ground thatspiritual understanding into our
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humanity, sometimes what candevelop within us is a split
between our upper body, ourupper chakras, and our lower
chakras.
We can be high functioning inour upper chakras, highly
developed in our upper chakras.
We can be highly rational, um,great thinkers and reason, and
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you know, a lot about um theexecutive systems functioning of
the brain can um can really bedominant in the upper body.
And yet on a on a conditionallevel in society, how we're
raised, we're not necessarilynurtured in how to be in our
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lower chakras.
And in fact, we've gotten a lotof teachings over the years and
over the millennials millennialsthat millenniums that um we
actually need to you know cutoff from the lower power
centers.
Um, and those first threechakras are vital for our
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grounding, for our ability toembody our power.
And interestingly enough, theyhave a lot to do with the the
collective and the um whathappens on when we have big uh
shifts collectively.
So when we go through eras oftime where there are changes
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happening in time and ingenerations and in eras, they
also somewhat shake up theparadigm in our lower chakras.
And so, as we're trying to kindof understand how to exist in
ourselves in relation to theworld around us, we're also
trying to figure out how to bein relationship with ourselves
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in our body and in the historyand the belief systems that we
hold in our chakra system and inour body that have impact in how
we're going to feel grounded andsafe and have a sense of
belonging in the world we livein.
Okay, so let's hone in to thelower chakras now.
And to do so, I'm gonna inviteyou to take a deep inhale.
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And on an exhale, you're gonnaguide your awareness all the way
down to your tailbone.
It's not an area of the body wethink about, and certainly not
an area of the body that wethink about as related to our
subconscious.
We think about that in the mindsometimes, but this power center
located at the tailbone is yourfirst chakra, and it relates to
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the conditioning that you haveabsorbed and lived within and
internalized between the yearsof zero to about seven years
old, roughly.
So we'll say in zero means inutero.
It also means intergenerational,it also means that whatever our
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soul might have brought intothis human experience is
imprinted within our root chakraconsciousness.
And what we're what I'maddressing kind of holistically
through this look at the lowerthree chakras is is the
transformational journey that weare on collectively, meaning
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times are changing and we aregoing through evolution.
And as a result, our internalenergy systems are responding
and perhaps even transforming.
And we're having responsesinside ourselves according to
what's going on collectively.
Another way to think about it isthe systems are changing, and so
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our system is changinginternally.
This power center, its powersrelate to safety and belonging
and grounding and security andabundance, and our ability to
feel our physical body.
It has to do with the bones andthe structure of our body and
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the systems within the body, allthe systems, because it has to
do with everything that connectsus to the material world.
Our physical body is material,we can feel it.
Also, our home, um, how we livein our physical dwelling space
is part of our materialexistence.
Existence also relates to ourfamily, um, the communities that
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we have been raised within,those who have raised us.
And it also has to do with howwe belong within those systems
that we've been raised in.
One of the, I'll say theimbalances or the shadow
elements that hell are held hereis our deep primal fears.
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Not just our fears, but thefears that were in what I like
to call the root chakramarinade.
And that means everything wewere raised in and we learned
through absorption between theyears of zero to seven years
old.
So if we were raised inenvironments where fear was in
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the field, so to speak, we willinternalize that within our own
young self, our own soma, ourbody, and we will develop our
own belief systems and our owncoping mechanisms and our ways
of operating in the worldaccordingly to what we were,
again, marinating in orabsorbing at the time.
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On an aside, I also teachintuition.
You may know that alreadythrough my podcast.
And um, I run a training programon um developing intuition,
which includes a deep dive intoall of the chakra work and so
much more.
But one aspect of developingintuition, and people ask, Am I,
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is everybody intuitive?
And what I often will say is weare all from zero to seven years
old empathically intuitive.
And what that means is that weall learn through absorption, we
all learn through the sensoryand clairsentient aspect of
intuition, which is the feltsense.
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So we're all absorbing to beable to bond and belong and
attach to the people who areraising us, and then branching
out from there to the systemsthat are raising the family
system.
That may mean the schoolsystems, that might mean
cultural systems, religioussystems, that might mean the
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systems of our town, ourcountry, our government, et
cetera, all the systems are partof the root chakra.
And what happens here, and thisis why it's so important that we
are connecting into the rootchakra and grounding through it.
And I mean grounding into ourroot chakra and into ourself as
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the world is changing, becausewhen systems are changing, when
there are systemic changes inthe world around us, which we
are experiencing at this time,the systems are changing, our
political systems are changing,our economic systems are
changing, there are ourhealthcare systems are changing.
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So much change is happening thatends up, we'll say, I like uh to
refer to it as we we wake up andwe shake up inside our body.
It starts to challenge ourability to feel safe and bonded
and connected and have a senseof belonging.
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It's one of the reasons whychange is so hard for us, some
for many people, is that we'vebeen bonded and have a sense of
belonging in the systems thatwe're raised in.
And then something changes inthe system, and we've got to
find new ways of feeling safeand bonded and belonging in that
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system.
Here's the other part to mentionof why root chakra work is so
important for us is that it hasto do with cultures.
And that means the cultures thatwe are raised in, and it means
the cultures we coexist within.
And whenever our culturalcultural system, our historical
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cultural systems are in our ownupbringing, is they are going to
be challenged when we're facedwith, again, systemic changes
that might affect our ability tofeel culture or feel safe within
culture.
So what do we what do we relatethat to?
It's in the isms (14:58):
racism, sexism, ageism, ableism, and so
on.
The isms are aspects of our rootchakra because they have to do
with the systems that we learnedhow to bond and belong within
our world, within our community,and within our cultures.
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So this becomes an area of thebody where when we're faced with
systemic changes or systemicbelief systems that might bump
up against our own, we might bebumping up against our own fears
within the systems that we'reraised in.
And from a healing perspective,what this means is that we are
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having to look at our ingrainedsubconscious and absorbent
belief systems, including ourisms.
We have to look at our ismsbecause our isms are part of the
belief systems, the protectionmechanisms, and the biases we
carry that help us feel, again,safe and connected and have a
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sense of belonging in the world.
But here's what's tricky aboutthe root chakra.
The root chakra is based on thesystems we marinated in.
And for a spirituallyprogressing soul in a human body
and in a human experience, wehave the ability to choose.
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Yes, we can say, I grew up withthis conditioning, but a
spiritually progressing soul hasthe ability to has the ability
to say, but I my true selfdoesn't believe that anymore.
My true self doesn't want tooperate on subconscious fears,
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fear of other, fear ofbelonging, fear of feeling safe,
fear of feeling bonded andconnected, fear of lack or that
there is lack.
We choose on a spirituallyprogressing soul level, meaning
our soul decides at some pointin our adult life what is truly
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true for us versus what we weretold was our truth.
When we're zero to seven yearsold, we have absorbed a great
deal of subconscious historythat goes back through our
parents' generations, throughgrandparents, through the
cultural systems they wereraised in, and through the fears
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that they absorbed.
That gets transferred to us, andwe develop our sense of
belonging in those systems.
But to belong in an evolvingconsciousness, we have to be
willing to look at what wesubconsciously hold, what was
not necessarily, I'll saychosen, meaning we absorbed it
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because we had to, and where ourmoral standing is at this stage
of our life.
That is root chakra evaluationand growth.
And when I say truth, this iswhat I mean.
Truth in the energetic anatomyis the central channel of our
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body.
And that pillar in the center ofour body is our soul's
consciousness commingling withdivine consciousness.
It's another way of saying thedivine is within us, it
commingles with our soul.
Our soul is it, we are onewithin this central channel of
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our body.
But the way that we havelearned, I said this previously,
we tend to live a little higherin the body sometimes, and we're
operating sometimes from afragmentation from the lower
half or split.
But root chakra truth means thatthe pillar comes all the way
down to the root chakra, and wefind a center point of deep
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spiritual truth in the root, andreally what that begins with is
I am here.
That's the truth.
I am here in my body, and thisis my home in the root chakra of
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my body, despite all the beliefsand preachings and teachings and
experiences and traumas that Ihave coexisted with in the root
chakra of my body that is takenover and transferred through the
other systems of my body,including my brain and the
neurotransmitters.
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I have the ability now to rootdown inside myself and come down
to my first fundamental truth,which is I am present inside my
root chakra.
And I will tell you through myyears of training and helping
people in grounding, sometimescoming down into the root chakra
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and reclaiming that power centerisn't pretty.
It's fatiguing.
Sometimes it's people will say,I can't even feel that, what
you're talking about, Wendy.
I hear you, I can kind of getit, but I cannot feel it.
Or sometimes there is like adeflection, like there's an
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emotional reaction or adeflection or a disassociation
or disconnection.
We have a great deal of energyto process in that root chakra
just to be able to come home toit authentically and in our deep
sense of truth.
That in itself is a process.
I wish I could cover theunfolding of all the healing
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that would need to happen in theroot chakra in one podcast.
It's not possible.
It's a journey.
And we I do that journey throughmy energy healing and intuition
training.
And quite frankly, the firstpart of it is solely on the
first three chakras.
And some students will say, Ihave to sit here for six months
and work through this deep workbecause it's that potent and
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important and powerful.
Now we help we help studentsthrough it, but it is a very
protected area of our body basedon the vulnerability of our
young experiences and the factthat we are not necessarily
right as humans, and we're notnecessarily perfect, and we are
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messy, and we are humans.
So we have to embrace ourhumanity to be able to be
willing to say, okay, I'll gothere.
I'll go to the root chakra of mybody and start to unpack what
wasn't mine to begin withsometimes, and then what I've
been holding all this time thatisn't um, you know, isn't really
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serving me.
Very, very powerful and potentwork.
But what it is is this truthcoming down to the root chakra
is a homecoming, and it's a wayof instilling a primary sense of
safety and trust in the body.
The power is trust, the power issafety and security.
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For us to feel safe and securein the world, we have to feel
safe and secure in the rootchakra, and that's coming home
to an embodied sense of self.
So deep healing work isimportant in this area, but even
as I'm saying this, perhaps youcould imagine what it feels like
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to take a deep seat in thispower center of your body and
come home there and acknowledgenot everything I'm carrying was
mine to begin with.
And I needed it, it wasimportant, it helped me belong
in the systems that I was raisedin.
But I've grown and the systemsare changing around me, and I
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can come home to this area of mybody and claim what is true for
me now in the base of the body.
But I'll tell you, our loftytruths won't get there.
We've got to come down into itand really sit with it for a
period of time to really letthis part of our body tell us
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what pillar coming down to theroot chakra truth really is.
So we've got to spend some timethere breathing into it and
slowing down.
So you can take time with thatand please just know everything
I'm saying, I have deeper,deeper processes and journeys
around it through my trainingprogram.
So just know that.
So I want to move on to thesecond chakra, because once
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again, I can talk forever and wecan be here for days and weeks
on the chakras.
And I'm just speaking toportions of them, not all of
that, all the whole holistic umaspects.
There's so much to say aboutthem.
So I'm gonna move on to thesecond chakra.
And here's what I'll share withyou about it is that this power
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center, it sits in the pelvicbowl.
Um, and and it relates to thesacrum bone in the back of the
body, but it also sits in the infront of it.
So it's somewhat in the pelvicbowl.
It's a power center for oursexuality, our creativity, our
ability to sense underneath thetable.
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It's our sensory experience,it's relates to our feelings and
our emotions, it relates to ourability to feel our emotional
self, to feel what we need, ouremotional needs, and our ability
to be in our, I'll say ourfeminine power.
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And when I say feminine power, Imean it's not gender.
All genders have amasculine-feminine quality of
energy.
Um, that might even be too um,you know, too dualistic.
There may be too binary, theremay be more aspects of the
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energy.
But just for the sake of givingthis understanding of second
chakra, I'll speak to it thisway.
When we talk about the femininepower, we're talking about
vulnerability and intuition andsensitivity and being real and
authentic with how we feel.
Those are just some qualities.
Um, empathy would be one ofthem.
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And those qualities, again,don't pertain to gender, they
pertain to the aspect of thefeminine.
I know in business they'recalled soft skills to have, but
they are very much a power inthis area of the body.
Now, this power center is initself probably the most
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delicate flower in the body,which means its power comes from
tuning in to it and actuallysoftening into the subtle and
being able to sense and feel.
I've worked with clients whohave said, I can't, I can't
feel.
Like when you say feel, what doyou even mean to feel in my
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body?
I'm I can think about how I'mfeeling, I can't really feel it.
It's an indication to me thatthe second chakra most likely
either has been to some degreefrozen or is not entirely
connected to that area becausein order to feel we have to be
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able to implement the softening,the relaxing, the um the
decrescendo, the ability toreally come into a soft, sweet,
subtle aspect in in ourselves.
It is the power that can feelbeneath the surface.
So, for example, I work, youknow, I wrote a book called
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Becoming an Empowered Empath.
The second chakra is theempathic power center.
It's the it's like to an empath,an empath feels under the table.
So if you say, I'm okay to anempath and they get the gut
feeling that wait a second, thisperson's not okay.
That's an empathic sense.
I hear you, I get what you'resaying, but I feel something
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different.
And that's our intuition, that'sour empathic intuition.
So this power center reallyrequires us to be very in tuned
with our sensitivity, ourability to sense, and to be able
to have an emotional spectrum,like meaning from rage all the
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way up to elation, and tounderstand that part of being
human is to have this emotionalspectrum and that it's about not
disconnecting from thoseemotions, stuffing them,
deflecting, rejecting,projecting, or disassociating
from them, but it's aboutbuilding skills around them and
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developing emotional resilience.
That is the second chakra powerin this area.
Why is this so important in thetimes that we're in, in these
evolutionary times?
Part of it is a couple ofthings.
Number one, historically, wehave been second chakra wounded
throughout time.
I mean, we could go back all theway to where the feminine was
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suppressed hundreds and hundredsof years ago in the church, in
our system, our religioussystems, our cultural systems,
our political systems.
We could go through variousWestern cultures, we could go
through some Eastern cultures,we can go through the way in
which the feminine was treated.
And we'll also say that that,again, is not always gender,
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although it certainly can berepresented as gender.
We know, for example, thepatriarchy was dominant over the
feminine.
Um, we know all the ways thatwomen were suppressed or you
know, had less rights.
We can look at all of thathistorically.
We can also say that in, well,say, for example, a male body,
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someone who's a male gender, um,might feel some shame for their
own feminine qualities ofsensuality, creativity, um,
vulnerability, sensitivity,being real with how they feel,
and being able to have emotions.
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Why?
Because the feminine qualities.
We're shamed.
So what's happening here is thatwe're we're battling within
ourselves, and maybe battling isa strong word, but we're
negotiating within ourselves thehistorical projection of the
feminine and the way thefeminine was valued.
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And oftentimes that issuppressed inside us, inside the
second chakra.
There's a vulnerability, there'sa weakness to the second chakra
quality because it's beenunderdeveloped, undernourished.
And what we're also beenexperiencing coinciding with
this kind of historical imprintI'm talking about, where it's
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coinciding with the rise of thefeminine qualities, you know,
that the sensuality, the abilityto be vulnerable and um and have
empathy and connect to ouremotions, um, all the teachings
around the importance ofprocessing our emotions, Brene
Brown's work.
I mean, there's so much that isabout developing more um
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emotional resilience and empathyand qualities that are actually
bringing connection betweenourselves and other people.
When we are able to have ourfeelings and to soften inside
ourselves, we actually becometrustworthy human beings.
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People trust us, they feel safewith us when we meet our own
softness, when we eat our meetour own sense of connection
inside ourselves and ouremotions.
But here's the thing (31:42):
to be able to soften into the second chakra
region, we also have to feel thehard feelings.
We have to be able to processour emotional history, our rage,
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our anger, our stress, ourgrief, our guilt, and our shame.
I did a podcast episode, whichyou can go back and watch on the
shame blanket.
And it I talk about howsometimes to even get to the
emotions, we have to go throughthe shame blanket.
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And the shame blanket representsthe process, the experience of
being shamed, meaning we've beenculturally shamed, gender
shamed.
I mean, just every, you know,family, whatever, you know,
every just being able to haveemotions, we've been shamed.
So if we have been shamed, thenthat shame sits on top of our
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second chakra.
And what's underneath is thetrue feelings.
And so sometimes we have to gothrough the shame of even having
a feeling to be able to have thefeeling.
And so that process of beingable to feel the feelings is
incredibly important in ourdevelopment and in our healing
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of our second chakra.
We have to process the feelingof being oppressed back through
time.
We have to process the feelingof being um invalidated, the
fact that perhaps other people'sneeds have been more important
than ours.
Maybe we've had to process thefeelings around being the
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peacekeeper or being the one whotakes care of everybody's needs,
being caught in codependentdynamics that meant having to
give yourself up in some waybecause that's what was taught
to you.
So here as an adult, I'm stuckin codependency.
It's not always the choice,right?
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It's because sometimes it wasmodeled for us to disconnect
from our truth in this area ofthe body.
So the second chakra becomes anarea of the body where it
becomes vital for us to be ableto process all the emotions
about what our early childhoodexperiences were, what our young
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experiences were.
And sometimes maybe not evenjust our young, sometimes it has
to do with our relationaldynamics, the ways in which we
might be still holding on tofeelings that um are about the
different relationships in ourbody.
Okay, again, I'm gonna come backto why is this important?
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It's important because when wecan't feel our feelings and
really own vulnerability andemotional resilience and being
able to own our feelings andhave them in a responsible,
ethical, and honestly human way.
What we do is we shame, wedeflect, we project, we hurt, we
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shut down, we disconnect, we ummake the other person wrong, and
we start and we create divides.
What are we experiencing in thisworld today?
We are experiencing the outcomeof people having a really hard
time feeling their feelings andbeing vulnerable and dropped in
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to the deeper senses of truthand sensitivity, empathy and
connection.
And we're hearing a lot ofspiritual ideology teachings,
etc., that don't necessarilyinclude the powers of the second
chakra.
Second chakra, in its form, inits true essence form, is that
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embodied sense of beingconnected to our divine power of
the feminine in this area, butwe have to embrace it.
We live in a world that haslearned, has we've we've grown
up, many of our thesegenerations, you know, many of
our generations have grown up ina patriarchal system that has
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invalidated the feminine.
And so what does that do?
It does everything control, itdoes power moves, it does
everything and anything it canto avoid feeling the feelings
and being vulnerable and beingtrustworthy and being connected,
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and we are seeing it everywherein our leadership.
It is so important that we, aswe are connecting to our own
inner authority, our own innerleader and the light that leads
us, that we are engaging inthese lower power centers in a
way that we find our center, wefind our truth and our seat in
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this in these areas of the body.
It may mean we have to heal andprocess our history, our wounds,
and how we got hurt.
And that's okay, that's good.
Meaning, what I mean by that isthat there's no shame in that.
There's no shame in being humanand having a wound and a trauma
that we've carried.
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So every human being has someversion of it.
But being able to really embodyour light and our truth and our
deeper sense of embodiment isgoing to come from being able to
allow ourselves to have thefeelings we're having.
If you are interested, I wrote ablog post.
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You can go to my website,wendyderosa.com, and then go to
the blog under the aboutsection.
And there's a blog post there onjust this.
I shared about my anger and howI processed my anger and how we
live in culture in a societythat doesn't know, does never
taught us how to have anger.
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And so what happens when we havewhen people are get angry, rage,
and violence.
And so we have violence in oursystem now.
It is, it is not just in thecollective system, but it's
affecting our in our collectivepsyche and our personal psyche.
There's violence in the field,and that is the energy of anger
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and the inability to be able tofeel it and process it and be
connected to it.
It's so important that we knowhow to process anger.
And so that we can be in oursecond chakra in a plate in a
way that feels grounded.
Sometimes, if we were to dropinto our second chakra, we'd
feel angry because there's angerthere, because hurt happened.
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And that's important that wefeel it and process it.
Okay, again, I could go on andon down the road here with
second chakra.
There's so much more to sayabout it.
But what I would say for now, aswe transition to third, is that
this power center once againneeds your love, your
sensitivity, your um sense ofbeing rooted in your feminine
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power, your intuition, yourability to slow down, soften,
smell the flowers, and feel thesubtle.
Feel what's beneath the surface,feel into yourself and
ultimately help that will helpyou feel where others are.
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That is the empathy that comesout of the power of this center.
Okay, I'm gonna move up to thethird chakra, and we're only
going as far as the third chakrain this episode, um, as we're
talking about the importance ofthe first three chakras and
healing them, particularly inthese times.
Um, and just know that there's Ialways have tons more.
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So you can check out my um myYouTube and my um my podcast
episodes, my blogs.
You can there's so much.
You can join my membership.
There's so many things that Ihave.
So I'm gonna move on to thethird chakra.
So the third chakra is locatedin the solar plexus region of
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your body, between the navel andthe diaphragm.
It governs the digestive systemand many of your internal
organs.
It is the power center of yourwill, your sense of self, your
identity, and your ability tohave your own personal center,
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meaning power in your body,meaning you have a self here,
and that you are able to have aself in a way that manifests
your true self into the world,and it is needed to have a self.
Ego gets a bad reputation, andthis power center relates to our
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ego.
It gets a bad reputation becauseego gets equated with
conditioning, you know, the fearconsciousness that we grew up in
that might keep us separate fromour soul.
But we have two aspects of ourego.
We have our healthy ego and wehave our wounded ego.
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I talk about this in my freecourse.
If you go to my website,wendyderosa.com, and sign up for
the free course, I share moreabout this.
But the healthy ego is yourthird chakra.
It's your ability, it's youraffect, it's your personality,
it's the way that you show up inthe world as a true, as an as
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having a true center, as havingan I am in this area of your
body.
The wounded ego is the monkeymind, the victimizer, the inner
critic.
And that is comprised of all theconditioning that we were raised
in.
Yes, we need to heal the woundedego, but we also need the
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healthy ego backed by our souland backed by spirit to be able
to manifest our true self intothe world.
We need that to be out there, tohave a, you know, a self in the
world.
This is our masculine power.
Again, it's not gender, but it'sproactive, productive, making
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things happen.
It's action, it's our strength,it's our doing in the world.
We need that in combination withthe feminine, which is again
more introspective and umintuitive and sensitive and
tuning in.
We need that aspect.
We also need to be able to getthings done and to make things
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happen.
One of the reasons why thispower center is so vital for our
connection and for our clearing,is because uh it is, I want to
say several things.
There's several things about it.
Number one, it governs thedigestive system, which means
not just digestion of food, butit's digestion of life.
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It is the power center that itsjob is to help us navigate our
environment instinctually to beable to uh instinctually
determine how we're going tobelong in that space, in that
environment.
So if I walk into a room andthere's a funky vibe going into
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my room, uh into that, excuseme, in that room, and I walk in
with a blaring open thirdchakra, I am most likely going
to take in that energy into theroom.
I might get a headache, I mightfeel a little dizzy, I might all
of a sudden my gut hurts, mystomach starts to hurt, and I'm
losing my faculties.
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I'm losing my ability to thinkclearly.
My executive system'sfunctioning of the brain isn't
working.
There's neurotransmittersbetween the gut and the brain.
So that was energy.
I engaged with energy.
Well, let's add in anything inthe world right now, any stress
in the world, your work stress,your home life, your um the
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news, the state of the world,your family system, whatever
might be going on.
If we are too open in this powercenter, we don't have the right
filters to be able to uh managethe amount of intake and we take
that in as stress, combine thatwith what might feel like an
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identity crisis internally.
This power center relates to whoI am.
Who I am means that we have tohave a self.
If I was raised believing thatmy value and worth was going to
depend on not having a self,because having a self is
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selfish.
If I was told that's selfish,you want to go do that for
yourself?
That is selfish.
You want to go by go on thattrip?
How selfish can you be?
You want to think, you know, ifwe start to, if we got the
training early on that havinganything for self is selfish,
then having a self is not goingto feel comfortable.
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It might also mean I'm having ahard time with my identity, my
deep sense of self and who Ireally am.
To survive in the world, wedevelop a lot of identities.
You know, we we have to, we, wecreate and uncreate identities
throughout our life.
You were a student at one point,you were a graduate at one
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point, you had this career inone point, maybe you were a
nurse, or maybe you were atherapist, or maybe you're a
business owner, and then maybeyou're a parent, and then maybe
you leave that job and you'renot that identity anymore, and
everything crashes, withwhatever came with that
identity, and then you have tofind yourself again in a new
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identity.
We're constantly evolving in ouridentities, but what doesn't
change is that we have a self.
We might go through the processof becoming more who we are here
to be, and that's part of theinner pillar, that's the
spiritual journey in the centerof our body.
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The transformation of ouridentities might be part of that
journey of becoming more true inwho we are, in our center and
ourself, but we have to have aself to be able to have
boundaries.
There needs to be somethingthere, the light, the pillar.
Again, this is one of thereasons why the pillar is so
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important as our center of truthto come down all the way through
the solar plexus, the secondchakra, and the first to be able
to have a sense of center inthis area, to have a self.
Now, I want to add something.
The chakras will compensate fora chakra being blocked or
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closed.
If my second chakra, I'm gonnathis is I'm why I'm telling you
this, is because it has to dowith what we see in the world
right now and why chakra healingis so important.
If my second chakra were blockedor closed, because it was
undervalued, undernourished, notsafe for me to be in my feminine
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power, for me to be sensitive,have emotions, creative.
I was injured in this powercenter and it weakened it in
some way, closed it or blockedit.
My third chakra most likely willblow open.
Most likely.
Now it's possible it can closedown too.
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Um, very possible, but mostlikely, some way the third
chakra will compensate.
And oftentimes, that thirdchakra, if it blows open, it is
looking to control thesurroundings because being safe
and soft and sweet isn't safe,isn't like being in the power of
the second chakra, is not a safething.
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So the third chakra will try tomanage the environment.
It will control, it willmanipulate, it will find ways to
get needs met and to feel asense of belonging and connect
connection, and we willultimately lose our boundaries
between self and other in thethird chakra area of the body.
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Personal power will increase toa different level of power.
Personal power is a good thing.
That means I have a sense ofself, I know where my boundaries
begin and end, I know where youare, and I know where I am, and
I can feel that you know, I amme.
That helps that that's personalpower in the third chakra.
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I know who I am, and I know myvalue and my worth, and I know
where I begin and end.
To lose that oftentimes meansthat everything that I have to
control my external environmentto be able to have a sense of
self.
That's not good power.
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That's power of manipulation,that's overpowering, that is
another aspect of codependencysometimes.
Like I need to be able to mergeor control or be in connection
with another person or thing tobe able to have a sense of self.
That's an aspect ofcodependency.
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It's also what we're seeing inthe world right now, it's what
we see when we are um in systemsthat are trying to oppress
certain people and certainpopulations and the world around
us, just different aspects ofour um of our well-being, of a
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humanity.
So when we start to have anoverextended power here, power
that goes beyond personal selfand responsibility, an inflated
ego, we'll say, that power, thatoppressive power, that
overpowering is absolutely animbalance.
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And what we might feelricocheting through the
collective.
Some leaders do that, not all.
You might see that, but then youmight go, oh, wait a second, I
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can see where it's so hard forme to be able to feel my true
feeling and how I'm constantlymeddling in my kids' stuff.
Like I can't just let them be.
Or I am so in my partner's um,you know, so attached and
clingy, and I can't, you know,it's it's hurting the
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relationship to the degree thatI'm clinging or um maybe
overpowering or controllingeverything around me.
And then you might find I'mgetting burnt out because I'm
doing that.
That's another way it plays out.
And so the the healing here isis that we the healing here is
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actually to come back down intothe second chakra.
Because if we can expand thepresence of the power underneath
it, that third chakra will comeback in.
We have a way of saying, oh, letme soften into my feelings, and
I'm feeling the tears come up,and my face is flushing with
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some feelings of guilt andshame.
Let me just breathe through thatfor a moment and recognize and
man, is that hard to breathethrough?
That's hard to takeresponsibility for.
But that is a power of thesecond chakra, is to take
responsibility for it.
The third chakra will start tocome back in and we'll start to
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recognize oh, this is me, thisis my sense of self.
If I were to sit in this powercenter to feel what it feels
like to have a self without fearand without the doctrine and
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dogma I received, and withoutyou know, all the early
childhood conditioning andshaming.
Like, I think I have to sit withmy sense of self.
I think I need to develop and bewith and really listen to what
that part of me is and who I'mreally here to be, and what my
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deeper why is, and who I'm hereto manifest and be in the world.
It's not that other pattern Iwas doing.
That came from an imbalance.
I need to come and sit in thepower of this power center and
go a little deeper into thesolar plexus area of the body,
the third chakra.
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This is your fire, but if thereis no water, that fire will burn
out of control.
So we need the water underneathit.
That's the second chakra to beable to counterbalance and
balance the third chakra.
On the flip side, this powercenter can go through lack of
confidence.
This is the confident powercenter, we can lose self-esteem
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and we can lose confidence andwillpower.
The healing around that isexactly the same.
We have to find the pillarthrough the center of that solar
plexus and to be able to sitwith a sense of self and who I
am and why I'm here and what I'mcalled to in this experience, in
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this in this body, in this life.
So that is the healing aroundthe third chakra to sit with.
There's so much more to talkabout with each of these power
centers.
I said a whole mouthful.
What I'd like you to do rightnow, because I do like to offer
a little guided healing for amoment, is just close your eyes
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and take some deep breaths intoyour sit bones and your
tailbone.
We'll let your grounding cordextend into the earth.
And I recognize that in hearingall of this information, it
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might have stirred up somedifferent feelings or
awarenesses.
And just know that next stepsaround that might mean, you
know, going deeper into yourhealing.
I've shared with you ways youcan do that with me.
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You might have your owntherapies or your own systems
also.
I'll share more about that, butjust acknowledging that for now
as the chakras have been namedand their powers that you are
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going to bring your pillar, theawareness of your pillar all the
way down to your tailbone.
With the words, I am here.
In the root chakra of my body.
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And then bring your awarenesshere to your second chakra in
your pelvis.
With the words, I am seated inmy emotional center.
It's safe for me to feel.
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And let the pillar also, as itcomes through there, bring your
awareness to your third chakra.
With the words, I am me.
No one else in this life will domy life.
Only I will.
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And rooting your soul in yourseat in your body.
Taking a deep seat insideyourself.
And I just ask here as thiswater flows, this water ball of
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light flows, that you take itwith you wherever you go.
You take your grounding cordwith you, wherever you go.
I pray that this episode hashelped you feel more connected
to your truth and the lightthat's leading you.
I give thanks for thisopportunity.
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I pray that we are all connectedand connected to the true heart
within you that's guiding you.
And I give thanks for thisopportunity.
Thank you.
So be it, and so it is.
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Thank you for tuning in.
I hope this supports you in yourlife.
Feel free to share it withanyone you feel might benefit
from it.
Again, if you ever want to godeeper, please go to my website,
wendyderosa.com.
I have my membership, I have myum year long training program.
They're both deeper dives and somany other episodes.
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So thank you, thank you.
We'll see you soon.
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within you.
Hello and welcome to thisepisode, Embodying Your Power,
the Essential Work of Healingthe Lower Chakras.
I'm Wendy DeRosa.
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beneficial for them.
And today we're going to talkabout the chakra system and very
specifically the lower threechakras.
I've been a chakra fan since uhmy late teens, early 20s, as
they have helped me understandmore about myself in terms of
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the wounds that I'm here to healand the power that I'm here to
uncover and embody in this life.
And I hope that in just thisinformation, it helps you kind
of have a similar understandingof yourself.
It's interesting because thechakras, I'll give you a little
chakra history, which is thatthey were first um introduced in
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the Vedic scriptures very earlyon, somewhere around um 700 and
500 BCE, and then mentionedlater in the Upanishads.
And these are sacred uh Hindutexts, Indian texts.
Um, and they are they were uhthey were in Sanskrit and in the
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Sanskrit word chakras meanswheel or lotus in the body.
Um they are perceived, they arenot actual, which means that
they are part of our subtlebody, and we don't see them with
our bare eyes.
We actually see them through ourintuitive sense of envisioning,
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so the clairvoyant sense oftuning in and perceiving or
sensing or feeling, and theybecome present to us the more
that we meditate on them andtune into them.
Um, I'll also add an interestinglittle tidbit here, which is
that the chakras were notnecessarily introduced with
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color.
They actually were not initiallydepicted with color, they were
just wheels of energy or orvortexes of power, energy in the
body.
And there's been severalintroductions or mentions of
color in the early 20th century.
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So there's a book called UmSerpent Power by Sir John
Woodruff in 1919 that mentionsthe chakras.
And then in 1927, there wasanother book introducing the
rainbow color of the chakras uma little bit later on, and that
was by Charles W.
Leadbeaters, or Leadbeater,excuse me, in 1927.
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But it wasn't until the 1970swhen there was more of a
metaphysical movement, um, whenessentially we had a big
migration of meditation and yogafrom India to the US, that the
chakras became more associatedwith color and then deeper
attributes of um thepsychological components of the
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chakras, um, including how we,you know, how we engage socially
or how we relate to ourselves ona personal level and on a power
level uh with the chakras.
So a lot of that came from moreof Carl Jung's work, um, and
then Carolyn Mace, and I knowthat um there's been some other
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teachers along the way, and adaya Judith and others that have
um you know evolved theunderstanding of the of the
chakras, they become quite aprofound um resource for us in
understanding that some of thewe'll say issues we carry in the
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tissues aren't always mental.
They are, in fact, deeply rootedin our energetic anatomy, in our
subtle body, and then thereforein our physical body.
And so it can be very helpfulfor us to understand the chakra
system.
And what I would like to talkabout is very specifically the
value and importance of thelower three chakras in our
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personal growth and in ourspiritual growth.
In in spiritual growth work,there's a lot of infinite
emphasis on the mind and theexpansion of the upper chakras.
That means a higher realms, um,expanded awareness and expanded
consciousness, the clairvoyantsense, remote viewing, um,
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connection to spirit guides andangels, life on the other side.
Um, and you know, even simplythe concepts of love and
compassion and kindness andgenerosity, which are aspects of
the heart chakra, these are veryum relatable uh themes within
spiritual growth, becausespiritual growth is about the
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upper chakras.
It's the more we are open in theheart and in the throat and the
third eye in the crown, the morewe have expanded awareness of
spirituality.
But from my experience, a lot ofyears, three decades now, in
this work, unless we ground thatspiritual understanding into our
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humanity, sometimes what candevelop within us is a split
between our upper body, ourupper chakras, and our lower
chakras.
We can be high functioning inour upper chakras, highly
developed in our upper chakras.
We can be highly rational, um,great thinkers and reason, and
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you know, a lot about um theexecutive systems functioning of
the brain can um can really bedominant in the upper body.
And yet on a on a conditionallevel in society, how we're
raised, we're not necessarilynurtured in how to be in our
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lower chakras.
And in fact, we've gotten a lotof teachings over the years and
over the millennials millennialsthat millenniums that um we
actually need to you know cutoff from the lower power
centers.
Um, and those first threechakras are vital for our
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grounding, for our ability toembody our power.
And interestingly enough, theyhave a lot to do with the the
collective and the um whathappens on when we have big uh
shifts collectively.
So when we go through eras oftime where there are changes
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happening in time and ingenerations and in eras, they
also somewhat shake up theparadigm in our lower chakras.
And so, as we're trying to kindof understand how to exist in
ourselves in relation to theworld around us, we're also
trying to figure out how to bein relationship with ourselves
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in our body and in the historyand the belief systems that we
hold in our chakra system and inour body that have impact in how
we're going to feel grounded andsafe and have a sense of
belonging in the world we livein.
Okay, so let's hone in to thelower chakras now.
And to do so, I'm gonna inviteyou to take a deep inhale.
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And on an exhale, you're gonnaguide your awareness all the way
down to your tailbone.
It's not an area of the body wethink about, and certainly not
an area of the body that wethink about as related to our
subconscious.
We think about that in the mindsometimes, but this power center
located at the tailbone is yourfirst chakra, and it relates to
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the conditioning that you haveabsorbed and lived within and
internalized between the yearsof zero to about seven years
old, roughly.
So we'll say in zero means inutero.
It also means intergenerational,it also means that whatever our
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soul might have brought intothis human experience is
imprinted within our root chakraconsciousness.
And what we're what I'maddressing kind of holistically
through this look at the lowerthree chakras is is the
transformational journey that weare on collectively, meaning
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times are changing and we aregoing through evolution.
And as a result, our internalenergy systems are responding
and perhaps even transforming.
And we're having responsesinside ourselves according to
what's going on collectively.
Another way to think about it isthe systems are changing, and so
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our system is changinginternally.
This power center, its powersrelate to safety and belonging
and grounding and security andabundance, and our ability to
feel our physical body.
It has to do with the bones andthe structure of our body and
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the systems within the body, allthe systems, because it has to
do with everything that connectsus to the material world.
Our physical body is material,we can feel it.
Also, our home, um, how we livein our physical dwelling space
is part of our materialexistence.
Existence also relates to ourfamily, um, the communities that
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we have been raised within,those who have raised us.
And it also has to do with howwe belong within those systems
that we've been raised in.
One of the, I'll say theimbalances or the shadow
elements that hell are held hereis our deep primal fears.
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Not just our fears, but thefears that were in what I like
to call the root chakramarinade.
And that means everything wewere raised in and we learned
through absorption between theyears of zero to seven years
old.
So if we were raised inenvironments where fear was in
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the field, so to speak, we willinternalize that within our own
young self, our own soma, ourbody, and we will develop our
own belief systems and our owncoping mechanisms and our ways
of operating in the worldaccordingly to what we were,
again, marinating in orabsorbing at the time.
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On an aside, I also teachintuition.
You may know that alreadythrough my podcast.
And um, I run a training programon um developing intuition,
which includes a deep dive intoall of the chakra work and so
much more.
But one aspect of developingintuition, and people ask, Am I,
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is everybody intuitive?
And what I often will say is weare all from zero to seven years
old empathically intuitive.
And what that means is that weall learn through absorption, we
all learn through the sensoryand clairsentient aspect of
intuition, which is the feltsense.
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So we're all absorbing to beable to bond and belong and
attach to the people who areraising us, and then branching
out from there to the systemsthat are raising the family
system.
That may mean the schoolsystems, that might mean
cultural systems, religioussystems, that might mean the
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systems of our town, ourcountry, our government, et
cetera, all the systems are partof the root chakra.
And what happens here, and thisis why it's so important that we
are connecting into the rootchakra and grounding through it.
And I mean grounding into ourroot chakra and into ourself as
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the world is changing, becausewhen systems are changing, when
there are systemic changes inthe world around us, which we
are experiencing at this time,the systems are changing, our
political systems are changing,our economic systems are
changing, there are ourhealthcare systems are changing.
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So much change is happening thatends up, we'll say, I like uh to
refer to it as we we wake up andwe shake up inside our body.
It starts to challenge ourability to feel safe and bonded
and connected and have a senseof belonging.
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It's one of the reasons whychange is so hard for us, some
for many people, is that we'vebeen bonded and have a sense of
belonging in the systems thatwe're raised in.
And then something changes inthe system, and we've got to
find new ways of feeling safeand bonded and belonging in that
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system.
Here's the other part to mentionof why root chakra work is so
important for us is that it hasto do with cultures.
And that means the cultures thatwe are raised in, and it means
the cultures we coexist within.
And whenever our culturalcultural system, our historical
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cultural systems are in our ownupbringing, is they are going to
be challenged when we're facedwith, again, systemic changes
that might affect our ability tofeel culture or feel safe within
culture.
So what do we what do we relatethat to?
It's in the isms (14:58):
racism, sexism, ageism, ableism, and so
on.
The isms are aspects of our rootchakra because they have to do
with the systems that we learnedhow to bond and belong within
our world, within our community,and within our cultures.
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So this becomes an area of thebody where when we're faced with
systemic changes or systemicbelief systems that might bump
up against our own, we might bebumping up against our own fears
within the systems that we'reraised in.
And from a healing perspective,what this means is that we are
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having to look at our ingrainedsubconscious and absorbent
belief systems, including ourisms.
We have to look at our ismsbecause our isms are part of the
belief systems, the protectionmechanisms, and the biases we
carry that help us feel, again,safe and connected and have a
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sense of belonging in the world.
But here's what's tricky aboutthe root chakra.
The root chakra is based on thesystems we marinated in.
And for a spirituallyprogressing soul in a human body
and in a human experience, wehave the ability to choose.
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Yes, we can say, I grew up withthis conditioning, but a
spiritually progressing soul hasthe ability to has the ability
to say, but I my true selfdoesn't believe that anymore.
My true self doesn't want tooperate on subconscious fears,
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fear of other, fear ofbelonging, fear of feeling safe,
fear of feeling bonded andconnected, fear of lack or that
there is lack.
We choose on a spirituallyprogressing soul level, meaning
our soul decides at some pointin our adult life what is truly
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true for us versus what we weretold was our truth.
When we're zero to seven yearsold, we have absorbed a great
deal of subconscious historythat goes back through our
parents' generations, throughgrandparents, through the
cultural systems they wereraised in, and through the fears
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that they absorbed.
That gets transferred to us, andwe develop our sense of
belonging in those systems.
But to belong in an evolvingconsciousness, we have to be
willing to look at what wesubconsciously hold, what was
not necessarily, I'll saychosen, meaning we absorbed it
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because we had to, and where ourmoral standing is at this stage
of our life.
That is root chakra evaluationand growth.
And when I say truth, this iswhat I mean.
Truth in the energetic anatomyis the central channel of our
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body.
And that pillar in the center ofour body is our soul's
consciousness commingling withdivine consciousness.
It's another way of saying thedivine is within us, it
commingles with our soul.
Our soul is it, we are onewithin this central channel of
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our body.
But the way that we havelearned, I said this previously,
we tend to live a little higherin the body sometimes, and we're
operating sometimes from afragmentation from the lower
half or split.
But root chakra truth means thatthe pillar comes all the way
down to the root chakra, and wefind a center point of deep
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spiritual truth in the root, andreally what that begins with is
I am here.
That's the truth.
I am here in my body, and thisis my home in the root chakra of
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my body, despite all the beliefsand preachings and teachings and
experiences and traumas that Ihave coexisted with in the root
chakra of my body that is takenover and transferred through the
other systems of my body,including my brain and the
neurotransmitters.
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I have the ability now to rootdown inside myself and come down
to my first fundamental truth,which is I am present inside my
root chakra.
And I will tell you through myyears of training and helping
people in grounding, sometimescoming down into the root chakra
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and reclaiming that power centerisn't pretty.
It's fatiguing.
Sometimes it's people will say,I can't even feel that, what
you're talking about, Wendy.
I hear you, I can kind of getit, but I cannot feel it.
Or sometimes there is like adeflection, like there's an
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emotional reaction or adeflection or a disassociation
or disconnection.
We have a great deal of energyto process in that root chakra
just to be able to come home toit authentically and in our deep
sense of truth.
That in itself is a process.
I wish I could cover theunfolding of all the healing
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that would need to happen in theroot chakra in one podcast.
It's not possible.
It's a journey.
And we I do that journey throughmy energy healing and intuition
training.
And quite frankly, the firstpart of it is solely on the
first three chakras.
And some students will say, Ihave to sit here for six months
and work through this deep workbecause it's that potent and
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important and powerful.
Now we help we help studentsthrough it, but it is a very
protected area of our body basedon the vulnerability of our
young experiences and the factthat we are not necessarily
right as humans, and we're notnecessarily perfect, and we are
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messy, and we are humans.
So we have to embrace ourhumanity to be able to be
willing to say, okay, I'll gothere.
I'll go to the root chakra of mybody and start to unpack what
wasn't mine to begin withsometimes, and then what I've
been holding all this time thatisn't um, you know, isn't really
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serving me.
Very, very powerful and potentwork.
But what it is is this truthcoming down to the root chakra
is a homecoming, and it's a wayof instilling a primary sense of
safety and trust in the body.
The power is trust, the power issafety and security.
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For us to feel safe and securein the world, we have to feel
safe and secure in the rootchakra, and that's coming home
to an embodied sense of self.
So deep healing work isimportant in this area, but even
as I'm saying this, perhaps youcould imagine what it feels like
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to take a deep seat in thispower center of your body and
come home there and acknowledgenot everything I'm carrying was
mine to begin with.
And I needed it, it wasimportant, it helped me belong
in the systems that I was raisedin.
But I've grown and the systemsare changing around me, and I
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can come home to this area of mybody and claim what is true for
me now in the base of the body.
But I'll tell you, our loftytruths won't get there.
We've got to come down into itand really sit with it for a
period of time to really letthis part of our body tell us
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what pillar coming down to theroot chakra truth really is.
So we've got to spend some timethere breathing into it and
slowing down.
So you can take time with thatand please just know everything
I'm saying, I have deeper,deeper processes and journeys
around it through my trainingprogram.
So just know that.
So I want to move on to thesecond chakra, because once
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again, I can talk forever and wecan be here for days and weeks
on the chakras.
And I'm just speaking toportions of them, not all of
that, all the whole holistic umaspects.
There's so much to say aboutthem.
So I'm gonna move on to thesecond chakra.
And here's what I'll share withyou about it is that this power
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center, it sits in the pelvicbowl.
Um, and and it relates to thesacrum bone in the back of the
body, but it also sits in the infront of it.
So it's somewhat in the pelvicbowl.
It's a power center for oursexuality, our creativity, our
ability to sense underneath thetable.
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It's our sensory experience,it's relates to our feelings and
our emotions, it relates to ourability to feel our emotional
self, to feel what we need, ouremotional needs, and our ability
to be in our, I'll say ourfeminine power.
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And when I say feminine power, Imean it's not gender.
All genders have amasculine-feminine quality of
energy.
Um, that might even be too um,you know, too dualistic.
There may be too binary, theremay be more aspects of the
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energy.
But just for the sake of givingthis understanding of second
chakra, I'll speak to it thisway.
When we talk about the femininepower, we're talking about
vulnerability and intuition andsensitivity and being real and
authentic with how we feel.
Those are just some qualities.
Um, empathy would be one ofthem.
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And those qualities, again,don't pertain to gender, they
pertain to the aspect of thefeminine.
I know in business they'recalled soft skills to have, but
they are very much a power inthis area of the body.
Now, this power center is initself probably the most
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delicate flower in the body,which means its power comes from
tuning in to it and actuallysoftening into the subtle and
being able to sense and feel.
I've worked with clients whohave said, I can't, I can't
feel.
Like when you say feel, what doyou even mean to feel in my
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body?
I'm I can think about how I'mfeeling, I can't really feel it.
It's an indication to me thatthe second chakra most likely
either has been to some degreefrozen or is not entirely
connected to that area becausein order to feel we have to be
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able to implement the softening,the relaxing, the um the
decrescendo, the ability toreally come into a soft, sweet,
subtle aspect in in ourselves.
It is the power that can feelbeneath the surface.
So, for example, I work, youknow, I wrote a book called
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Becoming an Empowered Empath.
The second chakra is theempathic power center.
It's the it's like to an empath,an empath feels under the table.
So if you say, I'm okay to anempath and they get the gut
feeling that wait a second, thisperson's not okay.
That's an empathic sense.
I hear you, I get what you'resaying, but I feel something
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different.
And that's our intuition, that'sour empathic intuition.
So this power center reallyrequires us to be very in tuned
with our sensitivity, ourability to sense, and to be able
to have an emotional spectrum,like meaning from rage all the
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way up to elation, and tounderstand that part of being
human is to have this emotionalspectrum and that it's about not
disconnecting from thoseemotions, stuffing them,
deflecting, rejecting,projecting, or disassociating
from them, but it's aboutbuilding skills around them and
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developing emotional resilience.
That is the second chakra powerin this area.
Why is this so important in thetimes that we're in, in these
evolutionary times?
Part of it is a couple ofthings.
Number one, historically, wehave been second chakra wounded
throughout time.
I mean, we could go back all theway to where the feminine was
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suppressed hundreds and hundredsof years ago in the church, in
our system, our religioussystems, our cultural systems,
our political systems.
We could go through variousWestern cultures, we could go
through some Eastern cultures,we can go through the way in
which the feminine was treated.
And we'll also say that that,again, is not always gender,
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although it certainly can berepresented as gender.
We know, for example, thepatriarchy was dominant over the
feminine.
Um, we know all the ways thatwomen were suppressed or you
know, had less rights.
We can look at all of thathistorically.
We can also say that in, well,say, for example, a male body,
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someone who's a male gender, um,might feel some shame for their
own feminine qualities ofsensuality, creativity, um,
vulnerability, sensitivity,being real with how they feel,
and being able to have emotions.
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Why?
Because the feminine qualities.
We're shamed.
So what's happening here is thatwe're we're battling within
ourselves, and maybe battling isa strong word, but we're
negotiating within ourselves thehistorical projection of the
feminine and the way thefeminine was valued.
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And oftentimes that issuppressed inside us, inside the
second chakra.
There's a vulnerability, there'sa weakness to the second chakra
quality because it's beenunderdeveloped, undernourished.
And what we're also beenexperiencing coinciding with
this kind of historical imprintI'm talking about, where it's
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coinciding with the rise of thefeminine qualities, you know,
that the sensuality, the abilityto be vulnerable and um and have
empathy and connect to ouremotions, um, all the teachings
around the importance ofprocessing our emotions, Brene
Brown's work.
I mean, there's so much that isabout developing more um
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emotional resilience and empathyand qualities that are actually
bringing connection betweenourselves and other people.
When we are able to have ourfeelings and to soften inside
ourselves, we actually becometrustworthy human beings.
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People trust us, they feel safewith us when we meet our own
softness, when we eat our meetour own sense of connection
inside ourselves and ouremotions.
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to be able to soften into the second chakra
region, we also have to feel thehard feelings.
We have to be able to processour emotional history, our rage,
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our anger, our stress, ourgrief, our guilt, and our shame.
I did a podcast episode, whichyou can go back and watch on the
shame blanket.
And it I talk about howsometimes to even get to the
emotions, we have to go throughthe shame blanket.
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And the shame blanket representsthe process, the experience of
being shamed, meaning we've beenculturally shamed, gender
shamed.
I mean, just every, you know,family, whatever, you know,
every just being able to haveemotions, we've been shamed.
So if we have been shamed, thenthat shame sits on top of our
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second chakra.
And what's underneath is thetrue feelings.
And so sometimes we have to gothrough the shame of even having
a feeling to be able to have thefeeling.
And so that process of beingable to feel the feelings is
incredibly important in ourdevelopment and in our healing
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of our second chakra.
We have to process the feelingof being oppressed back through
time.
We have to process the feelingof being um invalidated, the
fact that perhaps other people'sneeds have been more important
than ours.
Maybe we've had to process thefeelings around being the
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peacekeeper or being the one whotakes care of everybody's needs,
being caught in codependentdynamics that meant having to
give yourself up in some waybecause that's what was taught
to you.
So here as an adult, I'm stuckin codependency.
It's not always the choice,right?
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It's because sometimes it wasmodeled for us to disconnect
from our truth in this area ofthe body.
So the second chakra becomes anarea of the body where it
becomes vital for us to be ableto process all the emotions
about what our early childhoodexperiences were, what our young
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experiences were.
And sometimes maybe not evenjust our young, sometimes it has
to do with our relationaldynamics, the ways in which we
might be still holding on tofeelings that um are about the
different relationships in ourbody.
Okay, again, I'm gonna come backto why is this important?
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It's important because when wecan't feel our feelings and
really own vulnerability andemotional resilience and being
able to own our feelings andhave them in a responsible,
ethical, and honestly human way.
What we do is we shame, wedeflect, we project, we hurt, we
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shut down, we disconnect, we ummake the other person wrong, and
we start and we create divides.
What are we experiencing in thisworld today?
We are experiencing the outcomeof people having a really hard
time feeling their feelings andbeing vulnerable and dropped in
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to the deeper senses of truthand sensitivity, empathy and
connection.
And we're hearing a lot ofspiritual ideology teachings,
etc., that don't necessarilyinclude the powers of the second
chakra.
Second chakra, in its form, inits true essence form, is that
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embodied sense of beingconnected to our divine power of
the feminine in this area, butwe have to embrace it.
We live in a world that haslearned, has we've we've grown
up, many of our thesegenerations, you know, many of
our generations have grown up ina patriarchal system that has
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invalidated the feminine.
And so what does that do?
It does everything control, itdoes power moves, it does
everything and anything it canto avoid feeling the feelings
and being vulnerable and beingtrustworthy and being connected,
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and we are seeing it everywherein our leadership.
It is so important that we, aswe are connecting to our own
inner authority, our own innerleader and the light that leads
us, that we are engaging inthese lower power centers in a
way that we find our center, wefind our truth and our seat in
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this in these areas of the body.
It may mean we have to heal andprocess our history, our wounds,
and how we got hurt.
And that's okay, that's good.
Meaning, what I mean by that isthat there's no shame in that.
There's no shame in being humanand having a wound and a trauma
that we've carried.
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So every human being has someversion of it.
But being able to really embodyour light and our truth and our
deeper sense of embodiment isgoing to come from being able to
allow ourselves to have thefeelings we're having.
If you are interested, I wrote ablog post.
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You can go to my website,wendyderosa.com, and then go to
the blog under the aboutsection.
And there's a blog post there onjust this.
I shared about my anger and howI processed my anger and how we
live in culture in a societythat doesn't know, does never
taught us how to have anger.
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And so what happens when we havewhen people are get angry, rage,
and violence.
And so we have violence in oursystem now.
It is, it is not just in thecollective system, but it's
affecting our in our collectivepsyche and our personal psyche.
There's violence in the field,and that is the energy of anger
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and the inability to be able tofeel it and process it and be
connected to it.
It's so important that we knowhow to process anger.
And so that we can be in oursecond chakra in a plate in a
way that feels grounded.
Sometimes, if we were to dropinto our second chakra, we'd
feel angry because there's angerthere, because hurt happened.
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And that's important that wefeel it and process it.
Okay, again, I could go on andon down the road here with
second chakra.
There's so much more to sayabout it.
But what I would say for now, aswe transition to third, is that
this power center once againneeds your love, your
sensitivity, your um sense ofbeing rooted in your feminine
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power, your intuition, yourability to slow down, soften,
smell the flowers, and feel thesubtle.
Feel what's beneath the surface,feel into yourself and
ultimately help that will helpyou feel where others are.
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That is the empathy that comesout of the power of this center.
Okay, I'm gonna move up to thethird chakra, and we're only
going as far as the third chakrain this episode, um, as we're
talking about the importance ofthe first three chakras and
healing them, particularly inthese times.
Um, and just know that there's Ialways have tons more.
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So you can check out my um myYouTube and my um my podcast
episodes, my blogs.
You can there's so much.
You can join my membership.
There's so many things that Ihave.
So I'm gonna move on to thethird chakra.
So the third chakra is locatedin the solar plexus region of
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your body, between the navel andthe diaphragm.
It governs the digestive systemand many of your internal
organs.
It is the power center of yourwill, your sense of self, your
identity, and your ability tohave your own personal center,
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meaning power in your body,meaning you have a self here,
and that you are able to have aself in a way that manifests
your true self into the world,and it is needed to have a self.
Ego gets a bad reputation, andthis power center relates to our
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ego.
It gets a bad reputation becauseego gets equated with
conditioning, you know, the fearconsciousness that we grew up in
that might keep us separate fromour soul.
But we have two aspects of ourego.
We have our healthy ego and wehave our wounded ego.
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I talk about this in my freecourse.
If you go to my website,wendyderosa.com, and sign up for
the free course, I share moreabout this.
But the healthy ego is yourthird chakra.
It's your ability, it's youraffect, it's your personality,
it's the way that you show up inthe world as a true, as an as
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having a true center, as havingan I am in this area of your
body.
The wounded ego is the monkeymind, the victimizer, the inner
critic.
And that is comprised of all theconditioning that we were raised
in.
Yes, we need to heal the woundedego, but we also need the
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healthy ego backed by our souland backed by spirit to be able
to manifest our true self intothe world.
We need that to be out there, tohave a, you know, a self in the
world.
This is our masculine power.
Again, it's not gender, but it'sproactive, productive, making
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things happen.
It's action, it's our strength,it's our doing in the world.
We need that in combination withthe feminine, which is again
more introspective and umintuitive and sensitive and
tuning in.
We need that aspect.
We also need to be able to getthings done and to make things
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happen.
One of the reasons why thispower center is so vital for our
connection and for our clearing,is because uh it is, I want to
say several things.
There's several things about it.
Number one, it governs thedigestive system, which means
not just digestion of food, butit's digestion of life.
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It is the power center that itsjob is to help us navigate our
environment instinctually to beable to uh instinctually
determine how we're going tobelong in that space, in that
environment.
So if I walk into a room andthere's a funky vibe going into
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my room, uh into that, excuseme, in that room, and I walk in
with a blaring open thirdchakra, I am most likely going
to take in that energy into theroom.
I might get a headache, I mightfeel a little dizzy, I might all
of a sudden my gut hurts, mystomach starts to hurt, and I'm
losing my faculties.
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I'm losing my ability to thinkclearly.
My executive system'sfunctioning of the brain isn't
working.
There's neurotransmittersbetween the gut and the brain.
So that was energy.
I engaged with energy.
Well, let's add in anything inthe world right now, any stress
in the world, your work stress,your home life, your um the
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news, the state of the world,your family system, whatever
might be going on.
If we are too open in this powercenter, we don't have the right
filters to be able to uh managethe amount of intake and we take
that in as stress, combine thatwith what might feel like an
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identity crisis internally.
This power center relates to whoI am.
Who I am means that we have tohave a self.
If I was raised believing thatmy value and worth was going to
depend on not having a self,because having a self is
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selfish.
If I was told that's selfish,you want to go do that for
yourself?
That is selfish.
You want to go by go on thattrip?
How selfish can you be?
You want to think, you know, ifwe start to, if we got the
training early on that havinganything for self is selfish,
then having a self is not goingto feel comfortable.
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It might also mean I'm having ahard time with my identity, my
deep sense of self and who Ireally am.
To survive in the world, wedevelop a lot of identities.
You know, we we have to, we, wecreate and uncreate identities
throughout our life.
You were a student at one point,you were a graduate at one
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point, you had this career inone point, maybe you were a
nurse, or maybe you were atherapist, or maybe you're a
business owner, and then maybeyou're a parent, and then maybe
you leave that job and you'renot that identity anymore, and
everything crashes, withwhatever came with that
identity, and then you have tofind yourself again in a new
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identity.
We're constantly evolving in ouridentities, but what doesn't
change is that we have a self.
We might go through the processof becoming more who we are here
to be, and that's part of theinner pillar, that's the
spiritual journey in the centerof our body.
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The transformation of ouridentities might be part of that
journey of becoming more true inwho we are, in our center and
ourself, but we have to have aself to be able to have
boundaries.
There needs to be somethingthere, the light, the pillar.
Again, this is one of thereasons why the pillar is so
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important as our center of truthto come down all the way through
the solar plexus, the secondchakra, and the first to be able
to have a sense of center inthis area, to have a self.
Now, I want to add something.
The chakras will compensate fora chakra being blocked or
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closed.
If my second chakra, I'm gonnathis is I'm why I'm telling you
this, is because it has to dowith what we see in the world
right now and why chakra healingis so important.
If my second chakra were blockedor closed, because it was
undervalued, undernourished, notsafe for me to be in my feminine
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power, for me to be sensitive,have emotions, creative.
I was injured in this powercenter and it weakened it in
some way, closed it or blockedit.
My third chakra most likely willblow open.
Most likely.
Now it's possible it can closedown too.
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Um, very possible, but mostlikely, some way the third
chakra will compensate.
And oftentimes, that thirdchakra, if it blows open, it is
looking to control thesurroundings because being safe
and soft and sweet isn't safe,isn't like being in the power of
the second chakra, is not a safething.
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So the third chakra will try tomanage the environment.
It will control, it willmanipulate, it will find ways to
get needs met and to feel asense of belonging and connect
connection, and we willultimately lose our boundaries
between self and other in thethird chakra area of the body.
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Personal power will increase toa different level of power.
Personal power is a good thing.
That means I have a sense ofself, I know where my boundaries
begin and end, I know where youare, and I know where I am, and
I can feel that you know, I amme.
That helps that that's personalpower in the third chakra.
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I know who I am, and I know myvalue and my worth, and I know
where I begin and end.
To lose that oftentimes meansthat everything that I have to
control my external environmentto be able to have a sense of
self.
That's not good power.
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That's power of manipulation,that's overpowering, that is
another aspect of codependencysometimes.
Like I need to be able to mergeor control or be in connection
with another person or thing tobe able to have a sense of self.
That's an aspect ofcodependency.
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It's also what we're seeing inthe world right now, it's what
we see when we are um in systemsthat are trying to oppress
certain people and certainpopulations and the world around
us, just different aspects ofour um of our well-being, of a
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humanity.
So when we start to have anoverextended power here, power
that goes beyond personal selfand responsibility, an inflated
ego, we'll say, that power, thatoppressive power, that
overpowering is absolutely animbalance.
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And what we might feelricocheting through the
collective.
Some leaders do that, not all.
You might see that, but then youmight go, oh, wait a second, I
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can see where it's so hard forme to be able to feel my true
feeling and how I'm constantlymeddling in my kids' stuff.
Like I can't just let them be.
Or I am so in my partner's um,you know, so attached and
clingy, and I can't, you know,it's it's hurting the
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relationship to the degree thatI'm clinging or um maybe
overpowering or controllingeverything around me.
And then you might find I'mgetting burnt out because I'm
doing that.
That's another way it plays out.
And so the the healing here isis that we the healing here is
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actually to come back down intothe second chakra.
Because if we can expand thepresence of the power underneath
it, that third chakra will comeback in.
We have a way of saying, oh, letme soften into my feelings, and
I'm feeling the tears come up,and my face is flushing with
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some feelings of guilt andshame.
Let me just breathe through thatfor a moment and recognize and
man, is that hard to breathethrough?
That's hard to takeresponsibility for.
But that is a power of thesecond chakra, is to take
responsibility for it.
The third chakra will start tocome back in and we'll start to
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recognize oh, this is me, thisis my sense of self.
If I were to sit in this powercenter to feel what it feels
like to have a self without fearand without the doctrine and
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dogma I received, and withoutyou know, all the early
childhood conditioning andshaming.
Like, I think I have to sit withmy sense of self.
I think I need to develop and bewith and really listen to what
that part of me is and who I'mreally here to be, and what my
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deeper why is, and who I'm hereto manifest and be in the world.
It's not that other pattern Iwas doing.
That came from an imbalance.
I need to come and sit in thepower of this power center and
go a little deeper into thesolar plexus area of the body,
the third chakra.
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This is your fire, but if thereis no water, that fire will burn
out of control.
So we need the water underneathit.
That's the second chakra to beable to counterbalance and
balance the third chakra.
On the flip side, this powercenter can go through lack of
confidence.
This is the confident powercenter, we can lose self-esteem
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and we can lose confidence andwillpower.
The healing around that isexactly the same.
We have to find the pillarthrough the center of that solar
plexus and to be able to sitwith a sense of self and who I
am and why I'm here and what I'mcalled to in this experience, in
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this in this body, in this life.
So that is the healing aroundthe third chakra to sit with.
There's so much more to talkabout with each of these power
centers.
I said a whole mouthful.
What I'd like you to do rightnow, because I do like to offer
a little guided healing for amoment, is just close your eyes
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and take some deep breaths intoyour sit bones and your
tailbone.
We'll let your grounding cordextend into the earth.
And I recognize that in hearingall of this information, it
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might have stirred up somedifferent feelings or
awarenesses.
And just know that next stepsaround that might mean, you
know, going deeper into yourhealing.
I've shared with you ways youcan do that with me.
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You might have your owntherapies or your own systems
also.
I'll share more about that, butjust acknowledging that for now
as the chakras have been namedand their powers that you are
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going to bring your pillar, theawareness of your pillar all the
way down to your tailbone.
With the words, I am here.
In the root chakra of my body.
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And then bring your awarenesshere to your second chakra in
your pelvis.
With the words, I am seated inmy emotional center.
It's safe for me to feel.
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And let the pillar also, as itcomes through there, bring your
awareness to your third chakra.
With the words, I am me.
No one else in this life will domy life.
Only I will.
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And rooting your soul in yourseat in your body.
Taking a deep seat insideyourself.
And I just ask here as thiswater flows, this water ball of
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light flows, that you take itwith you wherever you go.
You take your grounding cordwith you, wherever you go.
I pray that this episode hashelped you feel more connected
to your truth and the lightthat's leading you.
I give thanks for thisopportunity.
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I pray that we are all connectedand connected to the true heart
within you that's guiding you.
And I give thanks for thisopportunity.
Thank you.
So be it, and so it is.
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Thank you for tuning in.
I hope this supports you in yourlife.
Feel free to share it withanyone you feel might benefit
from it.
Again, if you ever want to godeeper, please go to my website,
wendyderosa.com.
I have my membership, I have myum year long training program.
They're both deeper dives and somany other episodes.
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So thank you, thank you.
We'll see you soon.
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