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May 29, 2024 38 mins

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In this episode, I’m joined by Phillip, who’s Cayla’s husband, whom we’ve had the pleasure of talking to in the last three episodes to uncover her postpartum depression journey. Today, we’ll be hearing from Phillip’s perspective on those challenging times and gaining insights into how dads or partners can offer more support.


Philip explained the mix of excitement and nervousness that comes with expecting a first child. He juggled work in a competitive sales industry and the anticipation that seemed endless. He knew there was no rule book to follow and that every parent figures it out as they go along.


We get into those early days after bringing Claire home and Phillip shared the surreal experience of leaving the hospital with their newborn, expected to care for her with no manual or test to guide them. He likened it to paternal instincts kicking in – doing whatever it takes to ensure your child’s well-being.


He explains how Cayla was emotionally distraught, tending to a crying baby, and feeling overwhelmed. It was then that he realized postpartum depression wasn't just a concept but a real, palpable issue affecting their family. 


Philip reflects on whether a change in awareness and actions could have altered their experience, and how men are typically hardwired differently. He emphasizes the importance of trusting one’s gut feelings. 


Philip’s story highlights that while the journey through postpartum depression is challenging, it can be navigated with communication, support, and understanding. Our conversation serves as a reminder that no one is alone and that finding and offering help is a vital part of the journey.



We talk about:

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 03:30 Expectations vs. Reality
  • 05:25 The Newborn Haze: First Weeks at Home
  • 11:19 The Moment of Realization: Postpartum Depression Hits Home
  • 15:14 Seeking Help and Finding Support
  • 16:34 The Impact of Postpartum Depression on Family Dynamics
  • 17:45 Reflections on Fatherhood and Postpartum Challenges
  • 18:22 Understanding Hormonal Shifts and Emotional Toll
  • 20:25 The Importance of Community and Sharing Stories
  • 20:44 Navigating Early Parenthood Challenges
  • 21:17 Reflecting on Past Decisions and 'What Ifs'
  • 23:51 Understanding Postpartum Depression Signs
  • 25:31 The Importance of Trusting Your Instincts
  • 26:10 Words of Wisdom for New Dads
  • 27:23 The Critical Bonding Period
  • 28:11 Finding Balance and Avoiding Escapes
  • 30:44 Embracing the Journey of Parenthood
  • 36:05 Seeking and Offering Support


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