All Episodes

September 19, 2025 131 mins

This week, I hosted a memorial livestream following Charlie Kirk's assassination. I was joined by Cody Lawrence (Spare No Arrows), Hitler Hated Christ, journalist Mikale Olson, and Pastor Darren DePaul.

In this stream, I argued that our nation experienced collective trauma from witnessing graphic violence, identifying four problematic responses: leftists celebrating the death, right-wingers calling for retaliation, conspiracy theorists blaming various actors, and high-level influencers engaging in divisive arguments. And my guests and I discussed challenges with radical ideologies infiltrating conservative Christian spaces and the need for pastoral mentorship.

I concluded that the majority response has been people turning toward faith and spiritual renewal in Charlie Kirk's memory.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

1. Pastoral care is essential during crisis - Pastor Darren emphasized the need for churches to provide real mentorship and life-on-life discipleship rather than just Sunday services.

2. Violent imagery can be traumatizing - The widespread circulation of graphic footage created shock and grief for many Americans unaccustomed to witnessing such violence.

3. Multiple factions are exploiting the tragedy - Various groups are using Kirk's death to advance their own agendas rather than focusing on healing.

4. Cultural Christianity lacks depth - Several of us noted that surface-level Christian identity without genuine faith leads to inconsistent behavior and eventual rebellion.

5. Young men need wisdom and mentorship - Our discussion highlighted how young men's lack of discernment makes them vulnerable to extremist ideologies from various directions.

6. Charlie Kirk's legacy was dialogue over force - We agreed his approach of engaging opponents through conversation rather than violence should be emulated.

CONNECT WITH TPUSA

https://tpusa.org

CONNECT WITH MY GUESTS

Cody Lawrence

Mikale Olson

Hitler Hated Christ

Darren Depaul

Mark as Played
Transcript

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

Two Guys, Five Rings: Matt, Bowen & The Olympics

Two Guys, Five Rings: Matt, Bowen & The Olympics

Two Guys (Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers). Five Rings (you know, from the Olympics logo). One essential podcast for the 2026 Milan-Cortina Winter Olympics. Bowen Yang (SNL, Wicked) and Matt Rogers (Palm Royale, No Good Deed) of Las Culturistas are back for a second season of Two Guys, Five Rings, a collaboration with NBC Sports and iHeartRadio. In this 15-episode event, Bowen and Matt discuss the top storylines, obsess over Italian culture, and find out what really goes on in the Olympic Village.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2026 iHeartMedia, Inc.