July 19, 2022 • 23 mins
This week Kate and Sophie catch up and discuss what's going on in the world.
- Status of Roe v Wade
- COVID Fatigue
Kate discusses becoming a 'FIFO Mum'... she is currently working in Sydney, while her family is in Victoria.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the
land on which we record today, both the Gadigall people
of the your own nation and the Bunnarong people of
the cooler nation. We pay respects to the elders, both
past and present. Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey Sophie, we're back.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Hello me.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I love this. There's been so much going on in
the world, big story still Roe v. Wade, but there's
something that I love. In a really i'm going to
say shitty kind of circumstances that it is. I'm still
a lot of outrage. Women are taking it back into
their own hands. And I don't know if you saw
the story of a woman that was driving in the
(01:00):
transit lane, which is like the equivalent of like our
bus lanes. She was driving long and she was about
thirty six weeks pregnant, got pulled over by the police
maybe for speeding, Oh no, for driving in the you
know you can't drive in it or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh no, it's one of those one of the lanes
where you have to have more than one passenger in it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, that's right. And she was like, well, actually, I'm
thirty six weeks pregnant and by your new law, this
a person. This is a person that I'm carrying, and
so I don't believe that I should be fined X
amount of dollars or whatever because by your new laws,
like this is this is a human, this is a baby,
(01:42):
this is you know. So yeah, now I'm not copping that.
I think she's still caught the fine In the end,
I don't think it quite flew back. Oh really seeking
by her.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, that's that's awesome. That is just so funny and
good that to, you know, to take take a bit
of power back.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
The other story I saw was it was an Australian woman.
She was going to Canada, got stopped in Los Angeles.
She was going to go on house sit. They pulled
her over because or pulled her up at the airport
because they thought that she was doing something dodgy with
her visa. They actually asked her was she pregnant number
(02:22):
one and number two? Had she had an abortion lately?
She was kind of like, wait a minute, Crowns, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
That's like what suspicious she was going to get an
abortion or I.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Don't even know, but I just thought it makes me
very uncomfortable. It makes me very uncomfortable for a number
of reasons. Is that actually a question that you're going
to cop if you get going through you know, customs
and through security.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Okay, don't get me started. I'm going to get Randy.
I'm going to get Randy. Yeah, and get me started. Yeah,
that's really annoying, do you know what? So I hope
that change is coming. Let's just that's all we can do.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, yeah, you know, if there's a form to fill
out online, you know, like that's the only thing we
can do with Really, isn't it just support where we
dress it?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Of course, we can't avoid COVID, the resurgence, the comeback,
the Johnny Farnham of viruses, Like, seriously, can it go away?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Did you think it's has it actually been over or
did we just go through our restrictions are over, let's
move on.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, it felt like it was over. I think at
the minute we got that freedom back, particularly if you're
from New South Wales of Victoria, we certainly were under
locking key for a while, and I think the minute
that got lifted and we felt some freedom, tasted having
that freedom back and being able to hug our loved ones.
If we felt free again, even though it was sort
of bubbling underneath. We were like, well, we're vaccinated, you know,
(03:56):
we're doing the right thing. And then masks, when it
was like hello, Yeah. I think I sort of sort
of compartmentalized COVID into a flu category and when it's
still going to be there, it'll still bubble, but it's
under control. And I think I didn't realize that it
had crept up again literally until the other day and
I was playing in bed, watching like reading the news
(04:17):
on my phone, and I mean, ten thousand, what when
did that happen? Yeah, maybe I've had my head under
a rock, but it's I just I feel just so
like like virus fatigue. Man, I am. I'm sure everyone is,
but it's just I mean, they can't. I mean they're resisting.
(04:38):
I'm talking from it being a Victorian here, they're resisting
obviously bringing back in masks that's been rejected, even though
it's a recommendation. I don't think they're going to lock
us down again. I mean I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I don't think there's been any mention of bringing back lockdowns.
But I mean, nod my question would be. And so
I'm in New South Wales, and you know, it's obviously
it's left for each state to decide their own, and
we VICKI is obviously stricter than everywhere else. But I'm
(05:09):
at the airport all the time, and I just probably think,
is it that big of a deal for me to
put a mask on if it potentially saved the lives
life of somebody else getting it?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So that's that's really how I look at it, like, yes,
it's a pain, Yes, my breath is awful. Sophie, tell
you if I've been wearing that.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Bright it is so a girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Am I going to spread it if I've got it?
Or am I, you know, looking after a fellow human.
It's a big deal, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So do you know what the thing is too? You
have to remember, as always with the virus story, it's
not just about you. So if you're on a plane
from Sydney home to Melbourne, which you often do, and
you have the virus unknowingly on the plane, you could
be sitting next to Joe Blogs who who's flying back
(06:00):
to Melbourne to visit his dying mother in palliative care,
and then he all of a sudden gets the virus
and he can't go in there, So your decision to
not wear a mask has affected somebody else. Now, I
know everyone's tired of it. I just reckon it's like
the least we can do. Like it's such a small
it's an inconvenience. No one likes it. I don't know
(06:23):
that anyone cares to do it though, Like I feel
like everyone would be okay with it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know we'll hear from the people
like this is ridiculous. I don't want to do it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
They're the same people that would never have done it anyway. No, yeah,
in the height of lockdown of all of us going
we can only go our five k's, they weren't doing
that anyway. So I just anyway, we're probably fatiguing people
still talking about it.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But they're the big things that are happening at the moment.
That and oh here's a thing just quickly. I'm in
New South Wales, stay of origin. It's a big deal
up here. Always felt like Victorian's couldn't give a rats really,
I mean, now I've upset all the state of origin
kind of people that get excited about it or whatever.
But it has been massive here afl by the way
(07:13):
pretty much doesn't exist. Sorry, Sydney. I know you've got
a club nor but it does it. It's like nothing
that's rugby, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Kate, I'm looking at you sitting inside a closet. You're
in a closet in Sydney. I remember first hearing the
news of you moving up to Sydney because we were
working together and I was so excited for you, and
then I went to is the whole family moving to Sydney,
to which you said, no, you have become a five
(07:47):
fo Mum. You wrote an amazing article for Mum and
Mia back in feb when you moved up there. You're
coming back and forth. It's massive. How are you so?
Is the question?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
How am I really like? How's it? How are you
really going? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That was there a bit of mayo on that article
of like how good it is?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
No, actually, the job is everything I dreamed of. Then more,
you know, it is in terms of an opportunity or
once in a lifetime opportunity. You know, I still stand
by you know, everything that I said there, and I
was really clear at the time that I understood it
was going to be hard, and I have definitely I
(08:30):
couldn't get on here with you and say, oh, it's
all great, everything's being perfect, but you know me, there
has been some tears. I mean, what don't you know.
I get up at ten to three in the morning.
I have a ride on my little exercise blok. Ten
to three, yeah, ten to three. Get up at ten
(08:52):
to three, Sophie.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
What time do you go to bed?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I like to be in bed at seven.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That's not enough sleep five.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I've got kind of one of those sleep you know,
sleep timers. You know, if you go to bed now,
you'll get it hours. If you go to bed now,
you'll get six hours if you go.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
To so that would give me anxiety.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, ten to three is the middle of the night. Okay,
we'll get back to that shower. Get ready on the
road in the car four am, to be at the
station by four point thirty six. My life is all
about times. If you're not getting the kids and then show.
The planning starts for Jones in Amanda and it's a
(09:34):
big show, Sophie. It's number two in Sydney. So in
terms of the job, it ticks all my boxes. It's creative,
it's fast. I'm working with two of the most incredible
people I've ever met, plus the team love all of that.
The tears have come around from I really miss I
really miss the family. I'm doing this amazing thing, but
I'm on my own and I want to share it
(09:54):
with them. I ask the family, when you come to
Sydney every week. I can't help it. I acts every week.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You're you're saying, when you come in to Sydney is
in like when are you moving to sybeyeving?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, Like okay, look at this, it's there.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
As a family, we'd made a decision that come December,
we keep calling it the United Nations Meeting, we would
sit down, you know, and everyone would bring something to
the table and we would discuss it and I jump
around a bit, Sophie.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So on one one.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Week I'll say, I just desperately need them here. I
just don't want to miss out. I'm actually I'm missing
the every dayis of being a mum. I'm missing the
which I never thought I would say, Yeah, how much
Charlotte Charlotte's nineteen, Patty's fifteen, and Chester is just about
to turn thirteen. Yeah, So the every daynis of the
(10:54):
little things that they need and the little micro conversations,
like we've had to really try to up the communication
because you know, the how was your day at school
thing could very easily be missed if I'm not really
trying to probe in not being there.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And if they're feeling like you're not available.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah that's it. Yeah, but we FaceTime every day all
of that kind of stuff, but it's it's definitely not
the same. That's you know, that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So, yeah, what do you think about the I'll tread
carefully because I don't no, No, I just mean more,
you know, the gendered part of it. I mean, you
obviously were a young mom married to Chris, You've had
the three kids, you're a dedicated mom, you've got back
into the workforce, and you've made this massive decision that
(11:44):
everyone goes, oh my goodness, you've moved to Sydney.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I feel like if Chris had moved to Sydney, there
wouldn't have been an article in Mum and Me or
you know, no way.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The article Sophie would have been if it was Chris's
going away amazing dad moves to Sydney to support his family.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
That's bum stays home and bakes yeh.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
By the way, I'm the worst baker, cook, arts and
craft person.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That you're you're saving the kids, you know, if anything,
you're doing them a favor.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Are you kidding? They have stoked that they have dad
doing the night to your meals.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
What's going to happen at the end of the year
for the year.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I don't know, you're going to wheel the whiteboard out
and you say these are this croose cons Really though.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Last night Chris said I really missed you and and
as in just miss you know, the yeah, the everydayness
of having a traditional, you know, kind of family, and
and I just said, well, you have the power to
change that, mate, you know, like you you know, he's
the one that would like to stay. I get it,
(13:01):
So I jump around, so I will stay. On one hand,
I'm the one that's chasing this incredible opportunity. In terms
of me kind of saying that the easiest way for
Victorians is it's like me being called up to coach
AFL you know, that's kind of the equivalent, you kind
of it's an opportunity to be a coach. That's how
(13:22):
I kind of look at it, and I talk like
that because my husband's a football going and he understands that,
right right, sure, So because that's a me thing, that's
something I need to do for myself. So I have
no regrets in life. Why upset the family? Why upset
(13:42):
them by moving them schools and moving away from friends
and doing all that side of it?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And it's difficult when sorry, I just think it's difficult.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Though.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Just to help you along with that, is that your
kids aren't six four and two. You know you would
you would be upending their lives. And you know, you
think about Patty being sixteen, is he sixteen?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah? Or fifteen? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That is that's a life changer. I mean, he would
be fine. But also he's about to go into VCE
and all of those things, and that's that's pretty big.
So I get you're wanting to protect that, you know
what I mean? As mom, You're like, I don't want
to upset your teens in your life because I am
doing this grand thing, you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Know, Yeah, yep, that's it. And you know, like we love,
We're home. Warnable is a great place that there's a beat.
The schooling is great. My younger son, Chester has autism.
The support systems for him. So everything's in place, right,
and then the other part of me goes. You know,
this could be an incredible adventure for the family too,
(14:47):
you know, because it's so cut throat over here. Ope
he is, Sophie, I might only last. You never know
when the journey is going to end or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So radio radio's cutthroat.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, yes, so yeah, I don't know. Yeah, So the
reality is has the shininess and the excitement moved or
you know, come off yet? Yeah, probably like Ori into
the everyday noss of it. Now the reality has kicked in.
I'm on planes a lot, so I'm running from one
place to the other. But do I love the opportunity Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's fulfilling your career needs. But there's you know, everything
comes at a cost.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I suppose, you know, if I quote my mum too much,
please tell me. But Helen always you said, I've got
cards where she wrote it, my mum, Helen, and she
would say it to me all the time. But she
would say, Kate, you can have everything. You can have everything,
but sometimes not all at once. And I keep reminding myself,
(15:52):
you know, that's exactly what's happening at the moment. Yeah,
so you can have everything but not be perfect. It
might not be exactly what you want, but you know,
take it whatever it is and enjoy.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It and maybe maybe the un you can put forward
some ideas like even a five fo swing, like they
come up and spend time. Do you know what I mean? Like,
do you know what? And I would that feels expensive, but.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's much more expensive for them to come
up than me. But we're a football family. So if
you I'm not sure if you're aware, but we love
our football and so up until the end of September,
our family is at football training or they are at
playing football. So no one has been able to come
up yet. So until September, it's it's me doing and whatever.
(16:44):
But again, I think you know, that's what we that's
kind of what we signed up for, Like I made
my bed.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, you're doing a great job, and I'm happy that
you're happy, and you you know you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I do you just have a crack, right, have a
crack a crack?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Lands have a crack. You can always quit.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What's the worst that can happen? I'm premariat fired and I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
With a long list of achievements to her name. Not
only is she the winning woman this week, but she's
also a winner in another way. The twenty twenty two
Nadok Female Elder of the Year is Lois Peeler. Doctor
Peeler said that her parents instilled values in her that
have guided her throughout her life and have got her
to where she is today. She says, I grew up
(17:31):
in a very strong family, both in a political sense
and just achievement wise. Not only is doctor Peeler a
founding member of the Sapphires, she was also made a
Member in the General Division of the Order of Australia.
In twenty seventeen, doctor Peeler received an honorary doctorate from
r MIT University for services to Indigenous education and was
(17:52):
awarded a Victorian Senior Australian of the Year Award. Most recently,
she has created an incredible resource for the Victoria in
school curriculum. It's called Aboriginal Change Makers and is already
being rolled out in schools. The main goal is to
ensure all students learn about the struggles and history of
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I was very fortunate to have grown up on Country.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I've had a diverse career.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I became Australia's first Aboriginal model at the age of seventeen.
I had some time working in television. Now I'm the
executive director and principal of horra Or College.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I could go on and on and on. In fact,
I think doctor Peeler needs to come and have a
big chat to Kate about all her incredible achievements. A
massive congratulations on receiving a well deserved honor and an
inspirational woman to all.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Hey, Sophie. Last week we dropped need Will and Nigel's
episodes on the Women of Influence podcast. I'm still pretty
blown away by this whole.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Story, the doubleheader, the just incredible. I was firstly so
blown away by Neve and her generosity and just selflessness.
Carrying a child is not easy on a good day,
Carrying someone else's is just a gift. And Will and
Nigel just so beautiful and kind and yeah, it's just
(19:28):
it's a modern day love story.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's the only way to put it together. And that
the burst of love from comments underneath to Neve and
to Will and Nigel. I mean, we always see something
really lovely towards anyone that's been speatured. But it was
one of those moments. So Neve is from Ireland and
(19:52):
so all her family over in Ireland, we're getting to
hear this story.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So yeah, an outpouring.
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seen her at our son's school and she was pregnant,
I was so excited for them. Later on that night,
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of her close friends. All I could say to her
was that she was such an amazing person and how
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beautiful it was. I was in total awe of what
she was doing. To help out her friends. I actually
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We would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the
land on which we record today, both the Gadigall people
of the your own nation and the Bunnarong people of
the cooler nation. We pay respects to the elders, both
past and present. Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey Sophie, we're back.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Hello me.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I love this. There's been so much going on in
the world, big story still Roe v. Wade, but there's
something that I love. In a really i'm going to
say shitty kind of circumstances that it is. I'm still
a lot of outrage. Women are taking it back into
their own hands. And I don't know if you saw
the story of a woman that was driving in the
(01:00):
transit lane, which is like the equivalent of like our
bus lanes. She was driving long and she was about
thirty six weeks pregnant, got pulled over by the police
maybe for speeding, Oh no, for driving in the you
know you can't drive in it or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh no, it's one of those one of the lanes
where you have to have more than one passenger in it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, that's right. And she was like, well, actually, I'm
thirty six weeks pregnant and by your new law, this
a person. This is a person that I'm carrying, and
so I don't believe that I should be fined X
amount of dollars or whatever because by your new laws,
like this is this is a human, this is a baby,
(01:42):
this is you know. So yeah, now I'm not copping that.
I think she's still caught the fine In the end,
I don't think it quite flew back. Oh really seeking
by her.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, that's that's awesome. That is just so funny and
good that to, you know, to take take a bit
of power back.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
The other story I saw was it was an Australian woman.
She was going to Canada, got stopped in Los Angeles.
She was going to go on house sit. They pulled
her over because or pulled her up at the airport
because they thought that she was doing something dodgy with
her visa. They actually asked her was she pregnant number
(02:22):
one and number two? Had she had an abortion lately?
She was kind of like, wait a minute, Crowns, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
That's like what suspicious she was going to get an
abortion or I.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Don't even know, but I just thought it makes me
very uncomfortable. It makes me very uncomfortable for a number
of reasons. Is that actually a question that you're going
to cop if you get going through you know, customs
and through security.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Okay, don't get me started. I'm going to get Randy.
I'm going to get Randy. Yeah, and get me started. Yeah,
that's really annoying, do you know what? So I hope
that change is coming. Let's just that's all we can do.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, yeah, you know, if there's a form to fill
out online, you know, like that's the only thing we
can do with Really, isn't it just support where we
dress it?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Of course, we can't avoid COVID, the resurgence, the comeback,
the Johnny Farnham of viruses, Like, seriously, can it go away?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Did you think it's has it actually been over or
did we just go through our restrictions are over, let's
move on.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, it felt like it was over. I think at
the minute we got that freedom back, particularly if you're
from New South Wales of Victoria, we certainly were under
locking key for a while, and I think the minute
that got lifted and we felt some freedom, tasted having
that freedom back and being able to hug our loved ones.
If we felt free again, even though it was sort
of bubbling underneath. We were like, well, we're vaccinated, you know,
(03:56):
we're doing the right thing. And then masks, when it
was like hello, Yeah. I think I sort of sort
of compartmentalized COVID into a flu category and when it's
still going to be there, it'll still bubble, but it's
under control. And I think I didn't realize that it
had crept up again literally until the other day and
I was playing in bed, watching like reading the news
(04:17):
on my phone, and I mean, ten thousand, what when
did that happen? Yeah, maybe I've had my head under
a rock, but it's I just I feel just so
like like virus fatigue. Man, I am. I'm sure everyone is,
but it's just I mean, they can't. I mean they're resisting.
(04:38):
I'm talking from it being a Victorian here, they're resisting
obviously bringing back in masks that's been rejected, even though
it's a recommendation. I don't think they're going to lock
us down again. I mean I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I don't think there's been any mention of bringing back lockdowns.
But I mean, nod my question would be. And so
I'm in New South Wales, and you know, it's obviously
it's left for each state to decide their own, and
we VICKI is obviously stricter than everywhere else. But I'm
(05:09):
at the airport all the time, and I just probably think,
is it that big of a deal for me to
put a mask on if it potentially saved the lives
life of somebody else getting it?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So that's that's really how I look at it, like, yes,
it's a pain, Yes, my breath is awful. Sophie, tell
you if I've been wearing that.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Bright it is so a girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Am I going to spread it if I've got it?
Or am I, you know, looking after a fellow human.
It's a big deal, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So do you know what the thing is too? You
have to remember, as always with the virus story, it's
not just about you. So if you're on a plane
from Sydney home to Melbourne, which you often do, and
you have the virus unknowingly on the plane, you could
be sitting next to Joe Blogs who who's flying back
(06:00):
to Melbourne to visit his dying mother in palliative care,
and then he all of a sudden gets the virus
and he can't go in there, So your decision to
not wear a mask has affected somebody else. Now, I
know everyone's tired of it. I just reckon it's like
the least we can do. Like it's such a small
it's an inconvenience. No one likes it. I don't know
(06:23):
that anyone cares to do it though, Like I feel
like everyone would be okay with it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know we'll hear from the people
like this is ridiculous. I don't want to do it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
They're the same people that would never have done it anyway. No, yeah,
in the height of lockdown of all of us going
we can only go our five k's, they weren't doing
that anyway. So I just anyway, we're probably fatiguing people
still talking about it.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But they're the big things that are happening at the moment.
That and oh here's a thing just quickly. I'm in
New South Wales, stay of origin. It's a big deal
up here. Always felt like Victorian's couldn't give a rats really,
I mean, now I've upset all the state of origin
kind of people that get excited about it or whatever.
But it has been massive here afl by the way
(07:13):
pretty much doesn't exist. Sorry, Sydney. I know you've got
a club nor but it does it. It's like nothing
that's rugby, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Kate, I'm looking at you sitting inside a closet. You're
in a closet in Sydney. I remember first hearing the
news of you moving up to Sydney because we were
working together and I was so excited for you, and
then I went to is the whole family moving to Sydney,
to which you said, no, you have become a five
(07:47):
fo Mum. You wrote an amazing article for Mum and
Mia back in feb when you moved up there. You're
coming back and forth. It's massive. How are you so?
Is the question?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
How am I really like? How's it? How are you
really going? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That was there a bit of mayo on that article
of like how good it is?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
No, actually, the job is everything I dreamed of. Then more,
you know, it is in terms of an opportunity or
once in a lifetime opportunity. You know, I still stand
by you know, everything that I said there, and I
was really clear at the time that I understood it
was going to be hard, and I have definitely I
(08:30):
couldn't get on here with you and say, oh, it's
all great, everything's being perfect, but you know me, there
has been some tears. I mean, what don't you know.
I get up at ten to three in the morning.
I have a ride on my little exercise blok. Ten
to three, yeah, ten to three. Get up at ten
(08:52):
to three, Sophie.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
What time do you go to bed?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I like to be in bed at seven.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That's not enough sleep five.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I've got kind of one of those sleep you know,
sleep timers. You know, if you go to bed now,
you'll get it hours. If you go to bed now,
you'll get six hours if you go.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
To so that would give me anxiety.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, ten to three is the middle of the night. Okay,
we'll get back to that shower. Get ready on the
road in the car four am, to be at the
station by four point thirty six. My life is all
about times. If you're not getting the kids and then show.
The planning starts for Jones in Amanda and it's a
(09:34):
big show, Sophie. It's number two in Sydney. So in
terms of the job, it ticks all my boxes. It's creative,
it's fast. I'm working with two of the most incredible
people I've ever met, plus the team love all of that.
The tears have come around from I really miss I
really miss the family. I'm doing this amazing thing, but
I'm on my own and I want to share it
(09:54):
with them. I ask the family, when you come to
Sydney every week. I can't help it. I acts every week.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You're you're saying, when you come in to Sydney is
in like when are you moving to sybeyeving?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, Like okay, look at this, it's there.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
As a family, we'd made a decision that come December,
we keep calling it the United Nations Meeting, we would
sit down, you know, and everyone would bring something to
the table and we would discuss it and I jump
around a bit, Sophie.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So on one one.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Week I'll say, I just desperately need them here. I
just don't want to miss out. I'm actually I'm missing
the every dayis of being a mum. I'm missing the
which I never thought I would say, Yeah, how much
Charlotte Charlotte's nineteen, Patty's fifteen, and Chester is just about
to turn thirteen. Yeah, So the every daynis of the
(10:54):
little things that they need and the little micro conversations,
like we've had to really try to up the communication
because you know, the how was your day at school
thing could very easily be missed if I'm not really
trying to probe in not being there.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And if they're feeling like you're not available.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah that's it. Yeah, but we FaceTime every day all
of that kind of stuff, but it's it's definitely not
the same. That's you know, that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So, yeah, what do you think about the I'll tread
carefully because I don't no, No, I just mean more,
you know, the gendered part of it. I mean, you
obviously were a young mom married to Chris, You've had
the three kids, you're a dedicated mom, you've got back
into the workforce, and you've made this massive decision that
(11:44):
everyone goes, oh my goodness, you've moved to Sydney.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I feel like if Chris had moved to Sydney, there
wouldn't have been an article in Mum and Me or
you know, no way.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The article Sophie would have been if it was Chris's
going away amazing dad moves to Sydney to support his family.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
That's bum stays home and bakes yeh.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
By the way, I'm the worst baker, cook, arts and
craft person.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That you're you're saving the kids, you know, if anything,
you're doing them a favor.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Are you kidding? They have stoked that they have dad
doing the night to your meals.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
What's going to happen at the end of the year
for the year.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I don't know, you're going to wheel the whiteboard out
and you say these are this croose cons Really though.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Last night Chris said I really missed you and and
as in just miss you know, the yeah, the everydayness
of having a traditional, you know, kind of family, and
and I just said, well, you have the power to
change that, mate, you know, like you you know, he's
the one that would like to stay. I get it,
(13:01):
So I jump around, so I will stay. On one hand,
I'm the one that's chasing this incredible opportunity. In terms
of me kind of saying that the easiest way for
Victorians is it's like me being called up to coach
AFL you know, that's kind of the equivalent, you kind
of it's an opportunity to be a coach. That's how
(13:22):
I kind of look at it, and I talk like
that because my husband's a football going and he understands that,
right right, sure, So because that's a me thing, that's
something I need to do for myself. So I have
no regrets in life. Why upset the family? Why upset
(13:42):
them by moving them schools and moving away from friends
and doing all that side of it?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And it's difficult when sorry, I just think it's difficult.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Though.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Just to help you along with that, is that your
kids aren't six four and two. You know you would
you would be upending their lives. And you know, you
think about Patty being sixteen, is he sixteen?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah? Or fifteen? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That is that's a life changer. I mean, he would
be fine. But also he's about to go into VCE
and all of those things, and that's that's pretty big.
So I get you're wanting to protect that, you know
what I mean? As mom, You're like, I don't want
to upset your teens in your life because I am
doing this grand thing, you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Know, Yeah, yep, that's it. And you know, like we love,
We're home. Warnable is a great place that there's a beat.
The schooling is great. My younger son, Chester has autism.
The support systems for him. So everything's in place, right,
and then the other part of me goes. You know,
this could be an incredible adventure for the family too,
(14:47):
you know, because it's so cut throat over here. Ope
he is, Sophie, I might only last. You never know
when the journey is going to end or whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So radio radio's cutthroat.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, yes, so yeah, I don't know. Yeah, So the
reality is has the shininess and the excitement moved or
you know, come off yet? Yeah, probably like Ori into
the everyday noss of it. Now the reality has kicked in.
I'm on planes a lot, so I'm running from one
place to the other. But do I love the opportunity Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's fulfilling your career needs. But there's you know, everything
comes at a cost.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I suppose, you know, if I quote my mum too much,
please tell me. But Helen always you said, I've got
cards where she wrote it, my mum, Helen, and she
would say it to me all the time. But she
would say, Kate, you can have everything. You can have everything,
but sometimes not all at once. And I keep reminding myself,
(15:52):
you know, that's exactly what's happening at the moment. Yeah,
so you can have everything but not be perfect. It
might not be exactly what you want, but you know,
take it whatever it is and enjoy.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It and maybe maybe the un you can put forward
some ideas like even a five fo swing, like they
come up and spend time. Do you know what I mean? Like,
do you know what? And I would that feels expensive, but.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's much more expensive for them to come
up than me. But we're a football family. So if
you I'm not sure if you're aware, but we love
our football and so up until the end of September,
our family is at football training or they are at
playing football. So no one has been able to come
up yet. So until September, it's it's me doing and whatever.
(16:44):
But again, I think you know, that's what we that's
kind of what we signed up for, Like I made
my bed.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, you're doing a great job, and I'm happy that
you're happy, and you you know you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I do you just have a crack, right, have a
crack a crack?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Lands have a crack. You can always quit.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What's the worst that can happen? I'm premariat fired and I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
With a long list of achievements to her name. Not
only is she the winning woman this week, but she's
also a winner in another way. The twenty twenty two
Nadok Female Elder of the Year is Lois Peeler. Doctor
Peeler said that her parents instilled values in her that
have guided her throughout her life and have got her
to where she is today. She says, I grew up
(17:31):
in a very strong family, both in a political sense
and just achievement wise. Not only is doctor Peeler a
founding member of the Sapphires, she was also made a
Member in the General Division of the Order of Australia.
In twenty seventeen, doctor Peeler received an honorary doctorate from
r MIT University for services to Indigenous education and was
(17:52):
awarded a Victorian Senior Australian of the Year Award. Most recently,
she has created an incredible resource for the Victoria in
school curriculum. It's called Aboriginal Change Makers and is already
being rolled out in schools. The main goal is to
ensure all students learn about the struggles and history of
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I was very fortunate to have grown up on Country.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I've had a diverse career.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I became Australia's first Aboriginal model at the age of seventeen.
I had some time working in television. Now I'm the
executive director and principal of horra Or College.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I could go on and on and on. In fact,
I think doctor Peeler needs to come and have a
big chat to Kate about all her incredible achievements. A
massive congratulations on receiving a well deserved honor and an
inspirational woman to all.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Hey, Sophie. Last week we dropped need Will and Nigel's
episodes on the Women of Influence podcast. I'm still pretty
blown away by this whole.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Story, the doubleheader, the just incredible. I was firstly so
blown away by Neve and her generosity and just selflessness.
Carrying a child is not easy on a good day,
Carrying someone else's is just a gift. And Will and
Nigel just so beautiful and kind and yeah, it's just
(19:28):
it's a modern day love story.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's the only way to put it together. And that
the burst of love from comments underneath to Neve and
to Will and Nigel. I mean, we always see something
really lovely towards anyone that's been speatured. But it was
one of those moments. So Neve is from Ireland and
(19:52):
so all her family over in Ireland, we're getting to
hear this story.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So yeah, an outpouring.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, it really was so to everyone that listened and
shared it, we asked, don't we at the beginning of
each episode. You know it's a free podcast. We don't
charge anything, but hey can support us is by sharing
And you did that for us and we loved it.
And we're pretty excited because we have this hot wine,
(20:20):
this women of influenced hotline. M we sure do.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And we had some people ring up with some beautiful
things to say.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I hadn't seen me for a while, and when I
seen her at our son's school and she was pregnant,
I was so excited for them. Later on that night,
I messaged her to congratulate them, and she said, it's
actually a funny story, it's not mine, and continue to
tell me how she was being a surrogan for two
of her close friends. All I could say to her
was that she was such an amazing person and how
(20:51):
beautiful it was. I was in total awe of what
she was doing. To help out her friends. I actually
don't even think i'd be able to do that myself.
Need you are such inspiration to all women everywhere.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Ah beautiful.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I love it. I love it. I love it. And
if you want to leave a voice message for us,
you can do so. We always put the links in
the Women of Influence Facebook group and also on the
Instagram account. You'll find the links just there. It's really
easy to do. I've been saying and so excited that
(21:26):
we've got prizes and we've got a first set of
prizes now from Liloalilo dot com. It's all I've ever
wanted is giveaways. Sophie on the podcast. I mean, you know,
I really feel like we've made it now. I'm coming
from the cupboard. Yeah you know, I mean this is
the highlight. So Lilo is a company that, how do
(21:52):
I put it, provides pleasures. Yeah, that's it. I can
tell you that I had one to test drive. Yep.
They're good.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
They're good.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yep, they're just really good. Will I leave it at that?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well, we're going to make someone else very happy with
their Lilo pleasure.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if I can describe it
properly but yeah, yep, basically at.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Let's yeah, let's let's put the links in the show notes.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It's got buttons and it does things, and you know,
it's got speeds. We're going to get that off to Stacy.
So Stacy, thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
So much, say well done, will leave that.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
We'll get that sent to you. Enjoy from us leelo
dot com if you want to check them out. And
next week I've got new prizes, so it's great. All
you need to do is leave us a message. They
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