July 1, 2022 • 22 mins
The Women of Influence is back and Kate is bringing Producer Sophie on the journey with her.
Welcome Sophie!
This is the one that we cover Roe V Wade and hear your thoughts.
Kate & Sophie have a new segment- Women Winning. Each episode we feature a Woman that is smashing it at life and need a shout out.
Sophie- Fatima Payman Fatima Payman is the first Muslim woman who wears a hijab to sit in Australia’s Parliament.
Kate- Hannah Diviney is a disability advocate and through the power of Twitter drew the attention of Lizzo to change her lyrics. Follow her on Instagram @hannahthewildflower
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Women of Influence would like to acknowledge both the
gundich Maara people and also acknowledge the Boon Warrang people
of the Cooler Nation, the traditional owners of the land
on which we record today. We would like to pay
our respects to the elder's past and present.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome everyone to the Women of Influence. We're changing things
up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Very excited because we have just signed with iHeartRadio, so
it's kind of a relaunch, I don't know, kind of
a restart, maybe a freshen up, maybe had a glow up,
and I'm joined now with I've been referring to her
for the last couple of years as producers Sophie, Sophie,
I didn't actually run past you.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Do you want to be called producer Sophie now? Or
do you want to be like Sophie.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Jackson or you can?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Do you want to Sophie?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I like it. I think let's keep some consistency. Producer
Sophie's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I'm pretty excited because you have agreed to start joining
me as we mix this podcast up a little bit.
In that one week, we'll have our traditional feature, an
amazing woman of Influence and then on the other week
we get to catch up together and really unpack everything.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's going on in the world. It's like bringing in
a Bessie really to go on this journey. I'm sick
of being on my own.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
A lot of amazing women are slipping through the cracks
I think in between our interviews, so it's a good
chance for us to have a little chatty and just
find out what's going on. Really.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, as always, we want to make sure that you
join us in the Women of Influence Facebook group because
what that is is essentially the behind the scenes of
this very podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's I post things that are probably sometimes a little inappropriate, a.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Few memes here, a little funny video there, but always
articles that we're seeing of.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Exceptional things that are happening in the.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
World regarding women and what they're doing in business, in life,
in sport, in academia. And we're also posting about things
that are really affecting women. And there's been something this week,
Sophie that you know, we have to talk about it.
It's not really just this week. We've got heads up
about this, what nearly a month ago. This can't seriously happen.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't think any I mean, it's not a surprise
to anyone, obviously, ROVERSUS weighed in the US where half
of the US states are expected to ban abortion and
impose heavy restrictions following the Supreme Court decision to overturn it.
It's just I can't. I still feel really sick about it.
It's a huge, huge thing to happen. It means essentially
(02:45):
a large amount of women in the Midwest and also
the South won't have access to terminations or nearby access.
They would have to actually travel to get a safe
and legal abortion. It's just it feels like such a
step backwards for women's rights. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Even that concerns me that what's going to stop them
then imposing that you can't travel into state, like you'll
be starting to be stopped at borders to crossover, Like
I just keip the year. If this is the beginning
of what's too much Handmaid's Tail? I really do, and
I really like that was I couldn't find words when
I first saw it, but I kept thinking, is this
(03:23):
the pre episodes to the Handmaid's Tale? Is this where
it actually started? We're going to start having full rights
over women's bodies moving forward.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Did you even see a Louisiana. I think they're the worst,
and it's anyone who provides an abortion. They can face
up to ten years in prison. Not only that finds
between ten thousand and one hundred thousand dollars and lawmakers
excuse me, and Louisiana have also advanced a bill that
would classify abortion as homicide, meaning they're granting constitutional rights
(03:52):
to all unborn children from the moment of fertilization. That's terrifying.
You don't need a good reason to have an abortion.
It's your You have an abortion. You should have safe
legal access to one. You shouldn't have to travel, you
shouldn't have to feel shame if you decide tomorrow you
want abortion, get an abortion. It literally affects nobody else.
You don't like abortion, don't have one.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, oh, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh, and haven't we seen those so many great examples
of people coming out and speaking and articulating this so well.
I did see a woman that said, you know, I
understand some people's religion, it's not okay to have abortion.
And I'm not saying that that's not a bad you know,
that's fine, but that's your religion, that's your beliefs, and
(04:37):
that doesn't need to affect me. Can I tell you
what I'm most fearful about, Sophie is And I kept
thinking about the legal rights for gay marriage that we
celebrating in twenty seventeen in Australia, and I kept thinking,
because the argument might be, well, how does that affect
us here in Australia, Like, oh, we like it with
the like that'll never happen to us. But if that's
(04:58):
happening over in America, what's to stop them overturning other
laws that have been put in place? And then what's
to stop something like this happening here in Australia. So
we're creating this and I just keep thinking, why am
I scared now? This is what's frightening it? Why am
I scared now that on a second, if that's happening
over there, is this going to happen here?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I think, because it's happening in the US, it feels
sort of close to home in a sense, but it
also just feels like such a massive step backwards. This
is back in the seventies, you know. I just I
feel I know what you're saying. And I also think
that a lot of women across the world are feeling
that and thinking if this can happen there in twenty
twenty two, Yeah, what's possible anywhere else? What's to say
(05:43):
that things don't get reversed turned over anywhere. So it's yeah,
it's a really scary time, and I think people have
got really strong opinions on it, and I think a
few people have messaged in, haven't they.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, they have, So again you have to jump in
the Women of Influenced Facebook breeze. We've got a hotline,
Sophie pretty pumped up. We've got a hot blood because
it's one thing to have. Our point of view is
it's one thing for us to have a bit of
a chat about everything that's going on, but we want
you guys to be involved in the show as well.
So the hotline is there and we've got some strong
(06:14):
opinions that we'd like to hear.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Now it's men making decisions about an issue that they
don't have the right to talk about. You need to
be talking to the people that it affects, not the
people that are making decisions.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I have never been a believer in abortion. It is
something that my religion made me strongly against. However, I
believe that there are situations where abortion is not only okay,
it should be a right to the rulings in America.
At the moment, I am dumbfounded that men can make
(06:53):
decisions over women's bodies, that men can make decisions that
are literally life or death for some women.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
This has honestly made me feel everything. I'm devastated, I'm enraged,
I'm so I'm so overwhelmed, and it makes me also
a little scared. Just when you think that you know
your future is okay, I don't know. This just makes
me have a lot of doubt and like I've lost
a lot of faith in humanity because of this. And
(07:23):
I couldn't even imagine what it would be like living
in the States right now.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
As Mayor Friedman said, if every time men had sexed, death,
physical disability, social shunning, a life altering interruption of their
education or career, and the sudden lifelong responsibility of another being,
I think that expect a choice in the matter.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
It's not fair that men get the right to decide
what happens to women's bodies.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
I really honestly believed we were living in twenty twenty two,
not nineteen twenty two. It's Drconian, It's pathetic and it's wrong.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
The reversal of row verse weight doesn't solve any problems.
The role on effect of it's going to cause so
many more austrain on a health system, austrain on mental
health practitioners, children that are growing up below the poverty line,
children that are growing up in abusive relationships, relationships breaking down,
(08:19):
people losing jobs. The role on effect is going to
be massive.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
All right, producers, Sophie. Now that we've actually established that,
we're going to be calling.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You producer, Sophie, lock it in. We have a.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
New segment that we're introducing on the Women of Influence
podcasts every fortnight and it's called Women Winning. I feel
like radio people that needs like I.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Was just about to say, do you need mean to
make a little intro for that? Here it is, Can.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You insert that later? How you go? Women Winning?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
We have this beautiful platform where we can feature one
woman at a time and it's usually about a forty
minute chat and it's been incredible, but there's lots.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Of little things that are happening all the time. It's
kind of like a shout out isn't it.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, well, I think lots of big things are happening,
but we just don't have the capacity to be releasing
one every day. But we are wanting to showcase as
many women as we possibly can, so this is a
good way to do that. It's sort of just a
little bite sized feature of amazing women from around the world.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So every fortnight, I'll bring one to the table and
you'll bring one to the table and we'll showcase them.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So not a competition, but I do feel like mine.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's a competition, and Kay's but it is and mine's
really good.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And I'm probably gonna win.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
But anyway, all right, so.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
If you'd like to nominate someone for the Women of
Women winning, definitely jump into that Facebook page and tag
it or tag us, tag me new if you can
find Sophie, tag Sophie, share it with because we are
just always on the hunt and I think, like you said,
there's so many women out there and we want to
(10:06):
showcase as many as we can.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It doesn't need to be some ginormal story either. I
mean we tend to lean towards those because they're so
in our face, but there's so many women doing things
that are on a smaller scale that are still incredible,
So we want to highlight that as well.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Shall we get to it now?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'm so excited to showcase this woman this week on
Women Winning Fatima Payman, who is WA's new Labor Senator
and the first woman to wear a hejab in the
House of Representatives I believe. Also, she's the third youngest
ever senator, which is just incredible. A former refugee from Afghanistan,
(10:45):
her win fell very fittingly on World Refugee Day last month.
Fatima is passionate about breaking down barriers for women, young
people and culturally diverse communities.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
And before I'm ab Yang Laura Muslim, I'm an Australian
Laker senator, representing all Australians, regardless of their faith, background, cultural,
you know, identity, or sexual orientation, age.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Hor ability.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
I'll be representing all in putting out her nation to me.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The twenty seven year old Muslim Australian who takes her
seat in the Senate in July, says she wants to
normalize her job wearing. She says, you can't be what
you can't see, and if that is not reflective of
the general Australian public. Then, how can you have complete
faith that they can hear your voice and be your
voice in power? Such a powerful and important voice to
be in Parliament.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Now, I have got a woman who is winning for you.
Her name is Hannah Didney. You can find her on
Instagram Hannah the wild Flower. She is a disability advocate
and she has cerebral pausing. Now, a few weeks ago
you might have heard about Liz Zone. She released a
brand new song called Girls.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Here's a little bit of.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
It here Girls, Girls looking for.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It's a great song. People love it. It is amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
They love it more now that Lizzo has changed the
lyrics in it. About three weeks ago, this is what
Hannah posted on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So, Lizzo has a new song out called Girls.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's a song I really wanted to like because it's
about how empowering and uplifting female friendships can be. But
I don't and I can't like it because of one
of its opening lines is hold me back. I'm a spaz,
meaning spastic. For decades, it's been used as slang to insult,
to suggest a loss of control, someone being embarrassing or crazy,
(12:58):
often visualized with flailing limbs. You know all, I have
cerebral palsy in this contest. In this context, spacicity refers
to an unending, constant, painful tightness in my legs, tension
that without cause, lives in my body even when I'm relaxed.
(13:21):
It's a kind of pain that has me writing this
caption from bed because winter is not my friend. It
is the worst and it makes my life hard.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So that's what she.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Explained about what spaz means to her. We all know this,
but Lizzo didn't at the time that she released her song.
So Hannah went to Twitter put a tweet out to
the world and low and behold, Lizzo has seen it
and changed the words to the song. Now, if that's
not a woman that is winning, I don't know what is.
(13:55):
And it is the most powerful example of demonstrating that
words do matter. And I cannot wait to have Hannah
featured on the Women of Influence podcasts in the next
couple of.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Weeks post Kate going back next week. The first episode
back of the new season is a pretty good one.
I haven't even listened to the whole thing. Full disclaimer,
I haven't even edited it yet because I just want
to be busy, but I'll be on to it today,
(14:30):
I promise. But I've listened to a snapshot of it,
and I do know the story. It's amazing. Can you
give us a little rundown?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, let me tell you about Neve So.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Neive is a business woman and mother of two, and
she has gifted a child to the world at child
to Will and Nigel in the form of the surrogacy.
And can I just give you a couple of little
highlights that I just can't help There's two things that
stand out to me about this chat that you will hear.
The first is she when she talks about the surrogacy,
(15:01):
she talks about with her kids that her children got
to see kindness in action, Like you can't get any kinder.
And we've just been talking about Roe v. Wade today.
You can't get any kinder than the toll of taking
on and carrying a child for another human. I mean,
just just an incredible gift to the world, right, And
(15:24):
so her children have seen that, you know, and I
love that. And the other is and this is so me, Sophie,
and I don't know about you. Can you imagine this?
So you're sitting up on the couch, You've got something
on Netflix, you're half watching, the kids are gone to bed.
You maybe having a little wine or whatever, having some chocolate,
and you're scrolling through TikTok. And that's kind of where
(15:46):
you start Google searching things, you know, as in like
you're timing. Oh, let me look up you know news,
Let me look up fashion, Let me look up you
know funny songs with Delta, goodrip.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't know who knows what happens.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I don't know where they come from, but who knows me?
You've typed in in TikTok surrogacy. Her research to become
a surrogate started on TikTok, and I love that for
so many reasons because it's so isn't it our life?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I'm more more into the like googling is my headache,
ca and it make me die.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
But you know, oh it's a big rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
But anyway, so she started her research into becoming a surrogate.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
On TikTok, and I just think it's amazing, brilliant, hard.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Enough having your own child, you know, wow.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, yep, yeah, And there's so much to it.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
There's so much to go through with her in terms
of the laws around it, psychology, how do you tell
your husband, how do you explain it to your kids?
And it's the reaction, all of it, all of it.
So she's a really great ambassador for SRO. Now before
I let you go, I don't know why should work
(17:05):
so much of your time, but I do want to
drive everyone back into the Women of Influence Facebook group
because we've got giveaways so gay, We've.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Got psal.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You know, just we're giving away trips before you know it.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
We just put it out to the world right now,
you know, July with.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The manifest, manifest, how many books. It's very, very exciting,
but you've got to contribute to win.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Essentially, we have created a Women of Influenced hotline. Now
there'll be sometimes all postings like hey, we want your
we want your voices, we want you to leave us
a message about this, but the hot line is there
for you to ring us up. You can give us feedback,
you can tell us if you hater us, you can
tell us. I don't say that, I just think it'll
(17:59):
be open. Like if you don't agree with something like that,
nothing's off the table. You might listen to need for example,
and want to bring up and leave a message and
she'll be able to hear that back. That is really
really what it's about. So yeah, we want you to call.
And yeah, it's really easy, by the way, Like I'm
not as technically savvy as like I'm really trying to
(18:22):
hang on now now that I'm forty. So if I'm
really trying to hang on.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
It's a stretch. I'm telling you that is a stretch.
But this is so this is literally hold down like
a button on your screen. Yes, so easy, and then
it literally it's like doing a voice memo, you know,
like a voice message, which, like sidebar, is the best
way to text now, like I don't even text.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You're my person that does it the most. Actually I
love it.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
But this is exactly like that. So if you hit
that link, you literally press and it's a little yellow
button and you hold it down and leave the message
let us know what you think, and also about the
topics of today or things that might be have in
your pocket of the world that we need to highlight.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I don't even mind if if you want to nominate
a woman of influence and tell us why in that
voice message, as well, like that would be great to
actually hear from someone like in their voices. Why you know,
everyone's got that story there of how a woman has
impacted them and so that would just be another amazing element.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So yes, we insist, we insist.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I don't think we need another segment on this new
show of Our Sophie. But I do have to tell you,
speaking of technology, I did get a new app last night.
My Teenagetrud got it on to me. I'm talking about TikTok.
It's called be Real. Have you heard of be Real?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Is that like social media?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yes, but not another one. God, it kind of frightens
the absolutely Jesus is it out of me? But essentially
we need the premise, okay, So it's be Real.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So you know on Instagram, I've always got a filter
on let's face it, do you know what I mean?
There's some type of filter or it's it up as
perfectly as I can.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
This one.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
You've got less than two minutes to take a photo
and it takes a front photo and a back photo,
so what you're seeing there and then the selfie back
at you. You've got to take it and then upload it.
It just uploads. That is you can't fix it, you
can't change it, you can't whatever. And it's just where
you are actually in that moment. So I put my
first one up last night, and I was on the
(20:24):
Cats with my cat and my jam miss and.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
What you can't filter there's no filter, no filter, like,
there's no filter, there's no filter available, or you just
can option.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
It's be real because no, no, nope, you've just got
to be real.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, I don't know about that. You might give that
a hard pass anyway, that's.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Me trying to like I did turn forty a couple
of weeks, it's me trying to say.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
All like hit them. No one needs that in their
world anyway. Thank you so much, Sophie. I'm gonna love
having you actually joined me on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
You've been behind the scenes since day one, so we're
gonna have heaps of fun doing this.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And yeah, next week look forward to the first episode.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Until then, until then, we have a couple of hours.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yes, Hu
The Women of Influence would like to acknowledge both the
gundich Maara people and also acknowledge the Boon Warrang people
of the Cooler Nation, the traditional owners of the land
on which we record today. We would like to pay
our respects to the elder's past and present.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome everyone to the Women of Influence. We're changing things
up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Very excited because we have just signed with iHeartRadio, so
it's kind of a relaunch, I don't know, kind of
a restart, maybe a freshen up, maybe had a glow up,
and I'm joined now with I've been referring to her
for the last couple of years as producers Sophie, Sophie,
I didn't actually run past you.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Do you want to be called producer Sophie now? Or
do you want to be like Sophie.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Jackson or you can?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Do you want to Sophie?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I like it. I think let's keep some consistency. Producer
Sophie's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I'm pretty excited because you have agreed to start joining
me as we mix this podcast up a little bit.
In that one week, we'll have our traditional feature, an
amazing woman of Influence and then on the other week
we get to catch up together and really unpack everything.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's going on in the world. It's like bringing in
a Bessie really to go on this journey. I'm sick
of being on my own.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
A lot of amazing women are slipping through the cracks
I think in between our interviews, so it's a good
chance for us to have a little chatty and just
find out what's going on. Really.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, as always, we want to make sure that you
join us in the Women of Influence Facebook group because
what that is is essentially the behind the scenes of
this very podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's I post things that are probably sometimes a little inappropriate, a.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Few memes here, a little funny video there, but always
articles that we're seeing of.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Exceptional things that are happening in the.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
World regarding women and what they're doing in business, in life,
in sport, in academia. And we're also posting about things
that are really affecting women. And there's been something this week,
Sophie that you know, we have to talk about it.
It's not really just this week. We've got heads up
about this, what nearly a month ago. This can't seriously happen.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't think any I mean, it's not a surprise
to anyone, obviously, ROVERSUS weighed in the US where half
of the US states are expected to ban abortion and
impose heavy restrictions following the Supreme Court decision to overturn it.
It's just I can't. I still feel really sick about it.
It's a huge, huge thing to happen. It means essentially
(02:45):
a large amount of women in the Midwest and also
the South won't have access to terminations or nearby access.
They would have to actually travel to get a safe
and legal abortion. It's just it feels like such a
step backwards for women's rights. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Even that concerns me that what's going to stop them
then imposing that you can't travel into state, like you'll
be starting to be stopped at borders to crossover, Like
I just keip the year. If this is the beginning
of what's too much Handmaid's Tail? I really do, and
I really like that was I couldn't find words when
I first saw it, but I kept thinking, is this
(03:23):
the pre episodes to the Handmaid's Tale? Is this where
it actually started? We're going to start having full rights
over women's bodies moving forward.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Did you even see a Louisiana. I think they're the worst,
and it's anyone who provides an abortion. They can face
up to ten years in prison. Not only that finds
between ten thousand and one hundred thousand dollars and lawmakers
excuse me, and Louisiana have also advanced a bill that
would classify abortion as homicide, meaning they're granting constitutional rights
(03:52):
to all unborn children from the moment of fertilization. That's terrifying.
You don't need a good reason to have an abortion.
It's your You have an abortion. You should have safe
legal access to one. You shouldn't have to travel, you
shouldn't have to feel shame if you decide tomorrow you
want abortion, get an abortion. It literally affects nobody else.
You don't like abortion, don't have one.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, oh, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh, and haven't we seen those so many great examples
of people coming out and speaking and articulating this so well.
I did see a woman that said, you know, I
understand some people's religion, it's not okay to have abortion.
And I'm not saying that that's not a bad you know,
that's fine, but that's your religion, that's your beliefs, and
(04:37):
that doesn't need to affect me. Can I tell you
what I'm most fearful about, Sophie is And I kept
thinking about the legal rights for gay marriage that we
celebrating in twenty seventeen in Australia, and I kept thinking,
because the argument might be, well, how does that affect
us here in Australia, Like, oh, we like it with
the like that'll never happen to us. But if that's
(04:58):
happening over in America, what's to stop them overturning other
laws that have been put in place? And then what's
to stop something like this happening here in Australia. So
we're creating this and I just keep thinking, why am
I scared now? This is what's frightening it? Why am
I scared now that on a second, if that's happening
over there, is this going to happen here?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I think, because it's happening in the US, it feels
sort of close to home in a sense, but it
also just feels like such a massive step backwards. This
is back in the seventies, you know. I just I
feel I know what you're saying. And I also think
that a lot of women across the world are feeling
that and thinking if this can happen there in twenty
twenty two, Yeah, what's possible anywhere else? What's to say
(05:43):
that things don't get reversed turned over anywhere. So it's yeah,
it's a really scary time, and I think people have
got really strong opinions on it, and I think a
few people have messaged in, haven't they.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, they have, So again you have to jump in
the Women of Influenced Facebook breeze. We've got a hotline,
Sophie pretty pumped up. We've got a hot blood because
it's one thing to have. Our point of view is
it's one thing for us to have a bit of
a chat about everything that's going on, but we want
you guys to be involved in the show as well.
So the hotline is there and we've got some strong
(06:14):
opinions that we'd like to hear.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Now it's men making decisions about an issue that they
don't have the right to talk about. You need to
be talking to the people that it affects, not the
people that are making decisions.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I have never been a believer in abortion. It is
something that my religion made me strongly against. However, I
believe that there are situations where abortion is not only okay,
it should be a right to the rulings in America.
At the moment, I am dumbfounded that men can make
(06:53):
decisions over women's bodies, that men can make decisions that
are literally life or death for some women.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
This has honestly made me feel everything. I'm devastated, I'm enraged,
I'm so I'm so overwhelmed, and it makes me also
a little scared. Just when you think that you know
your future is okay, I don't know. This just makes
me have a lot of doubt and like I've lost
a lot of faith in humanity because of this. And
(07:23):
I couldn't even imagine what it would be like living
in the States right now.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
As Mayor Friedman said, if every time men had sexed, death,
physical disability, social shunning, a life altering interruption of their
education or career, and the sudden lifelong responsibility of another being,
I think that expect a choice in the matter.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
It's not fair that men get the right to decide
what happens to women's bodies.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
I really honestly believed we were living in twenty twenty two,
not nineteen twenty two. It's Drconian, It's pathetic and it's wrong.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
The reversal of row verse weight doesn't solve any problems.
The role on effect of it's going to cause so
many more austrain on a health system, austrain on mental
health practitioners, children that are growing up below the poverty line,
children that are growing up in abusive relationships, relationships breaking down,
(08:19):
people losing jobs. The role on effect is going to
be massive.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
All right, producers, Sophie. Now that we've actually established that,
we're going to be calling.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You producer, Sophie, lock it in. We have a.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
New segment that we're introducing on the Women of Influence
podcasts every fortnight and it's called Women Winning. I feel
like radio people that needs like I.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Was just about to say, do you need mean to
make a little intro for that? Here it is, Can.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You insert that later? How you go? Women Winning?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
We have this beautiful platform where we can feature one
woman at a time and it's usually about a forty
minute chat and it's been incredible, but there's lots.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Of little things that are happening all the time. It's
kind of like a shout out isn't it.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, well, I think lots of big things are happening,
but we just don't have the capacity to be releasing
one every day. But we are wanting to showcase as
many women as we possibly can, so this is a
good way to do that. It's sort of just a
little bite sized feature of amazing women from around the world.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So every fortnight, I'll bring one to the table and
you'll bring one to the table and we'll showcase them.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So not a competition, but I do feel like mine.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's a competition, and Kay's but it is and mine's
really good.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And I'm probably gonna win.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
But anyway, all right, so.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
If you'd like to nominate someone for the Women of
Women winning, definitely jump into that Facebook page and tag
it or tag us, tag me new if you can
find Sophie, tag Sophie, share it with because we are
just always on the hunt and I think, like you said,
there's so many women out there and we want to
(10:06):
showcase as many as we can.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It doesn't need to be some ginormal story either. I
mean we tend to lean towards those because they're so
in our face, but there's so many women doing things
that are on a smaller scale that are still incredible,
So we want to highlight that as well.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Shall we get to it now?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'm so excited to showcase this woman this week on
Women Winning Fatima Payman, who is WA's new Labor Senator
and the first woman to wear a hejab in the
House of Representatives I believe. Also, she's the third youngest
ever senator, which is just incredible. A former refugee from Afghanistan,
(10:45):
her win fell very fittingly on World Refugee Day last month.
Fatima is passionate about breaking down barriers for women, young
people and culturally diverse communities.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
And before I'm ab Yang Laura Muslim, I'm an Australian
Laker senator, representing all Australians, regardless of their faith, background, cultural,
you know, identity, or sexual orientation, age.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Hor ability.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
I'll be representing all in putting out her nation to me.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The twenty seven year old Muslim Australian who takes her
seat in the Senate in July, says she wants to
normalize her job wearing. She says, you can't be what
you can't see, and if that is not reflective of
the general Australian public. Then, how can you have complete
faith that they can hear your voice and be your
voice in power? Such a powerful and important voice to
be in Parliament.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Now, I have got a woman who is winning for you.
Her name is Hannah Didney. You can find her on
Instagram Hannah the wild Flower. She is a disability advocate
and she has cerebral pausing. Now, a few weeks ago
you might have heard about Liz Zone. She released a
brand new song called Girls.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Here's a little bit of.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
It here Girls, Girls looking for.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It's a great song. People love it. It is amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
They love it more now that Lizzo has changed the
lyrics in it. About three weeks ago, this is what
Hannah posted on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So, Lizzo has a new song out called Girls.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's a song I really wanted to like because it's
about how empowering and uplifting female friendships can be. But
I don't and I can't like it because of one
of its opening lines is hold me back. I'm a spaz,
meaning spastic. For decades, it's been used as slang to insult,
to suggest a loss of control, someone being embarrassing or crazy,
(12:58):
often visualized with flailing limbs. You know all, I have
cerebral palsy in this contest. In this context, spacicity refers
to an unending, constant, painful tightness in my legs, tension
that without cause, lives in my body even when I'm relaxed.
(13:21):
It's a kind of pain that has me writing this
caption from bed because winter is not my friend. It
is the worst and it makes my life hard.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So that's what she.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Explained about what spaz means to her. We all know this,
but Lizzo didn't at the time that she released her song.
So Hannah went to Twitter put a tweet out to
the world and low and behold, Lizzo has seen it
and changed the words to the song. Now, if that's
not a woman that is winning, I don't know what is.
(13:55):
And it is the most powerful example of demonstrating that
words do matter. And I cannot wait to have Hannah
featured on the Women of Influence podcasts in the next
couple of.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Weeks post Kate going back next week. The first episode
back of the new season is a pretty good one.
I haven't even listened to the whole thing. Full disclaimer,
I haven't even edited it yet because I just want
to be busy, but I'll be on to it today,
(14:30):
I promise. But I've listened to a snapshot of it,
and I do know the story. It's amazing. Can you
give us a little rundown?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, let me tell you about Neve So.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Neive is a business woman and mother of two, and
she has gifted a child to the world at child
to Will and Nigel in the form of the surrogacy.
And can I just give you a couple of little
highlights that I just can't help There's two things that
stand out to me about this chat that you will hear.
The first is she when she talks about the surrogacy,
(15:01):
she talks about with her kids that her children got
to see kindness in action, Like you can't get any kinder.
And we've just been talking about Roe v. Wade today.
You can't get any kinder than the toll of taking
on and carrying a child for another human. I mean,
just just an incredible gift to the world, right, And
(15:24):
so her children have seen that, you know, and I
love that. And the other is and this is so me, Sophie,
and I don't know about you. Can you imagine this?
So you're sitting up on the couch, You've got something
on Netflix, you're half watching, the kids are gone to bed.
You maybe having a little wine or whatever, having some chocolate,
and you're scrolling through TikTok. And that's kind of where
(15:46):
you start Google searching things, you know, as in like
you're timing. Oh, let me look up you know news,
Let me look up fashion, Let me look up you
know funny songs with Delta, goodrip.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't know who knows what happens.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I don't know where they come from, but who knows me?
You've typed in in TikTok surrogacy. Her research to become
a surrogate started on TikTok, and I love that for
so many reasons because it's so isn't it our life?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I'm more more into the like googling is my headache,
ca and it make me die.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
But you know, oh it's a big rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
But anyway, so she started her research into becoming a surrogate.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
On TikTok, and I just think it's amazing, brilliant, hard.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Enough having your own child, you know, wow.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, yep, yeah, And there's so much to it.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
There's so much to go through with her in terms
of the laws around it, psychology, how do you tell
your husband, how do you explain it to your kids?
And it's the reaction, all of it, all of it.
So she's a really great ambassador for SRO. Now before
I let you go, I don't know why should work
(17:05):
so much of your time, but I do want to
drive everyone back into the Women of Influence Facebook group
because we've got giveaways so gay, We've.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Got psal.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You know, just we're giving away trips before you know it.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
We just put it out to the world right now,
you know, July with.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The manifest, manifest, how many books. It's very, very exciting,
but you've got to contribute to win.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Essentially, we have created a Women of Influenced hotline. Now
there'll be sometimes all postings like hey, we want your
we want your voices, we want you to leave us
a message about this, but the hot line is there
for you to ring us up. You can give us feedback,
you can tell us if you hater us, you can
tell us. I don't say that, I just think it'll
(17:59):
be open. Like if you don't agree with something like that,
nothing's off the table. You might listen to need for example,
and want to bring up and leave a message and
she'll be able to hear that back. That is really
really what it's about. So yeah, we want you to call.
And yeah, it's really easy, by the way, Like I'm
not as technically savvy as like I'm really trying to
(18:22):
hang on now now that I'm forty. So if I'm
really trying to hang on.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
It's a stretch. I'm telling you that is a stretch.
But this is so this is literally hold down like
a button on your screen. Yes, so easy, and then
it literally it's like doing a voice memo, you know,
like a voice message, which, like sidebar, is the best
way to text now, like I don't even text.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You're my person that does it the most. Actually I
love it.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
But this is exactly like that. So if you hit
that link, you literally press and it's a little yellow
button and you hold it down and leave the message
let us know what you think, and also about the
topics of today or things that might be have in
your pocket of the world that we need to highlight.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I don't even mind if if you want to nominate
a woman of influence and tell us why in that
voice message, as well, like that would be great to
actually hear from someone like in their voices. Why you know,
everyone's got that story there of how a woman has
impacted them and so that would just be another amazing element.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So yes, we insist, we insist.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I don't think we need another segment on this new
show of Our Sophie. But I do have to tell you,
speaking of technology, I did get a new app last night.
My Teenagetrud got it on to me. I'm talking about TikTok.
It's called be Real. Have you heard of be Real?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Is that like social media?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yes, but not another one. God, it kind of frightens
the absolutely Jesus is it out of me? But essentially
we need the premise, okay, So it's be Real.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So you know on Instagram, I've always got a filter
on let's face it, do you know what I mean?
There's some type of filter or it's it up as
perfectly as I can.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
This one.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
You've got less than two minutes to take a photo
and it takes a front photo and a back photo,
so what you're seeing there and then the selfie back
at you. You've got to take it and then upload it.
It just uploads. That is you can't fix it, you
can't change it, you can't whatever. And it's just where
you are actually in that moment. So I put my
first one up last night, and I was on the
(20:24):
Cats with my cat and my jam miss and.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
What you can't filter there's no filter, no filter, like,
there's no filter, there's no filter available, or you just
can option.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
It's be real because no, no, nope, you've just got
to be real.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, I don't know about that. You might give that
a hard pass anyway, that's.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Me trying to like I did turn forty a couple
of weeks, it's me trying to say.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
All like hit them. No one needs that in their
world anyway. Thank you so much, Sophie. I'm gonna love
having you actually joined me on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
You've been behind the scenes since day one, so we're
gonna have heaps of fun doing this.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And yeah, next week look forward to the first episode.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Until then, until then, we have a couple of hours.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yes, Hu
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