March 2, 2025 • 33 mins
Celebrating the Women of the Melbourne Fashion Festival.
Karinda Mutabazi, is a freelance fashion stylist. Her work tells stories using the clothing, a constant collaboration between artists and makers. Karinda creates looks for TV, runway, stage, editorial, commercial and fashion installations. Authenticity and inclusivity is at the core of everything that she does and it is the personal connections that she find the most fulfilling part.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Women of Influence podcast. I'm your host,
Kate Meete, and it is so great to be back
in your ears. I would like to acknowledge the traditional
owners of the land in which this podcast was recorded,
and I pay my respects to their elders past and present,
and the Aboriginal elders of other communities who may be
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listening today. This is a special five part series in
partnership with the Melbourne Fashion Festival, celebrating the extraordinary women
of the Melbourne fashion industry. Australia is home to some
remarkable women. They're raising foster families, running cattle stations, living
inspirational lives. Yet many of their tales of triumph are
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never profiled and never celebrated. So we're changing all that
through our Women of Influence podcast. For more information about
our Women of Influence the Melbourne Fashion Festival edition, please
check out our show notes and of course the Women
of Influence socials. And as always, if you have a
woman in your life that needs to be celebrated and
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we all need to hear her story, please connect with us.
We would love to hear from you. Thank you so
much always for your support and I hope that you
smile as much as I did recording these episodes. These
episodes were recorded via zoom in Melbourne and you know
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I love address. Thank you so much for joining the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited about this.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, we're all looking forward to the Melbourne Fashion Festival,
and you know, we're recording this in a moment in
time where you are right in the thick of preparing
for the twenty twenty five event.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And I'm always curious because.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Our women that sit in front of us to record
these episodes aren't the fully formed doing incredible things. It's
not like this overnight success.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Well maybe some of them are. It's been this series
of micro stories that gets us here. I want to
take us right back to what caught your eye. Was
it a piece of fabric, a conversation with a mum
or a relative or a sister with it, trying something
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on and feeling special. There's usually a moment, that early
childhood moment that just started the magic for you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I've always been, I guess, interested in storytelling and that's
kind of where it started for me. I have a
background in performance, so from a really young age I
did theater performing stage sort of things. So I guess
now working in fashion, it was kind of a natural
progression in terms of it's still being an element of performance,
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but just on a different scale. So I think probably
the theater is really where it all started. For me.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I was looking through your website and it was color.
That's very outdated. Okay, well we'll put that as a
little side note, like the update of the website coming soon.
Check it all out. But what I did notice, outdated
or not, was color. And I was looking at this
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catch line that you have, which was style by us
and for them, and I was just so curious about
that as your tagline in terms of every person that
you were dressing. It was like you were really bringing
out a section of their personality in that and with color.
That's just my eye, that's, you know, not the expert
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in the room here. Can you take me through, take
us all through that style by us and them? Is
that what I'm seeing? Is that what I'm feeling?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, I think for me, styling all the role of
a stylist is is kind of interpreting somebody's story and
then helping them to, I guess, define tell the story
of who they are through what they wear. I mean,
I guess there's that old saying, you know, a picture
tells a thousand words, and we do make assumptions and
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sort of inform our decisions quite often by what we
see before. It's like what we hear or you know,
get to know. So I think for a lot of
the people that I work with, it's really about being
able to tell the story of who they are in
what they're wearing. I love color. I'm definitely a more
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as more person. Don't ask me to do the really
paired back things. I mean, I can do it, but
it makes me sad. Is that thing where I'm just like,
but could we just add a little bit of a
clash here, or could it be something that just like
tips it over the edge? So I guess I'm drawn
to people who are a little bit adventurous in that
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way and wanting to sort of express themselves in a
way that's a little bit extra.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Why is that important?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know, I'm sitting in front of you at the moment,
and I mean, I'm in a corporate office, so I've
got my black pants on my shirt, and then I
know that come weekend, you know, I'm all about you know,
just putting stuff on my back, you know, I just forget. Well,
you take it off at the end of the day
if you didn't like it. It's we don't need to
overthink this thing. But it can be super scary trying
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something different when you've got someone in front of you.
Are you thinking, oh, I just let's just gently try
and coax a little bit of that quirkiness about them,
or you know, like that inner playfulness.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Is that what you're looking for? And again I could
be missing something, but every person I looked at there
was a sense of play and a sense of confidence,
you know, and I was thinking, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's definitely something where I mean, I guess a lot
of my work is with personalities, musicians, edians, TV personalities,
people who are sort of I guess, in the public
eye in a sense. And so usually for that type
of a person, there is an innate sense of confidence
already just given their roles of having to be in
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front of people all the time. They're quite used to
sort of doing that and knowing who they are, which
helps to inform, you know, how we put things together.
But I guess in the sense of like trying to
create something for somebody or like doing that storytelling. It
is really about you know, you might try a million
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things on and you can see it in the person's
face when they put something on that they feel really
good in. It actually like your whole body language changes.
And it doesn't even matter if it's something super loud
or it's something you know, kind of a bit more demure.
You know, it depends on the person. I think, so
for me, I'm really just trying to tell the story
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of the person, get that authenticity so that then they
can really feel confident in who they are and my
guess presenting that to the world because for these people especially,
a lot of their job is being critiqued by the
general public and so with that, obviously everyone has a
different opinion on style and what they like and don't like.
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And I feel like it's actually really interesting because so
many people have so many opinions that they feel that
they should just voice. I mean, I don't know whether
you know, like some of these people are like, Wow,
if anyone critiqued you on your daily basis of like
what you're wearing, the way that you're critiquing this person online,
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I wonder how you would go with that. But so
for that instance, for me, it's really important that no
matter what, the person that's wearing the garments feels confident
and really good in themselves, so that when they do
get a critique that they're like, you know, I didn't
like that or whatever it is, they're like, doesn't matter,
because I do.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You lit up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I talk about the light up when we seem to
fall on something and when you can tell the person
in front of you it feels comfortable and is excited
about what they're going on. Is that with the heart
of this lives for you, That capturing that moment and
then seeing it come to life with the finished product,
whether it's for an opening or a runway or a
photo shoot or a music concert or whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, it definitely is. And I mean it is that
thing where sometimes you know, you'll be struggling with an
outfit or you're trying to get the right accessories and
you've tried a million things on and it's the million
and one that is the one thing that makes it
all come together, and then everyone in the room is like,
there it is, and there it is. You know. It's
that thing where it's just like for whatever reason, it's
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that one element that was missing that brings the whole
thing together, which makes it complete. You know, it is
the full story of what that should be.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Take me back now, when you learnt this, was it
through a trial and error in terms of I've put
things on people and I knew they weren't right, or I,
you know, was trying things out and you know it
wasn't quite feeling there, or when did you have that
aha moment?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I got it, I got it, I got it. This
is what this all means.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I don't know whether it was like a one moment
or whether it is that it's a continual journey towards
that in the sense that every single look that you
put together, every single client that you work with, has
something different that they are needing or wanting, and so
it's ever changing in that sense that it's something that
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you're always striving for and sometimes you do have to
just be okay with it being okay. But if you
can make it amazing, then that's when it's really satisfying.
I guess.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Take me back to the theater. What what was your
first either role in a musical or a play or
some type of performance. What was that very first performance
that you remember.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I remember going to see Cats. My grandparents took us
to see Cats when we were really young, which now,
looking back at that musical, it's the most ridiculous premise
for a show ever. But at the time I really
loved it. I was really young, and I guess then
from there I just started performing. I used to do
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dancing and singing and acting and all of those things,
all of the you know, school musicals from a really
young age, and then finished UNI I did shows professionally,
so you know, dream role was to be in The
Lion King, which I did for you know, the first
the first time the Lion King was in Australia, which
feels like a completely different person now, like it was
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so long ago, and I thought that's what I was
going to do forever. But I guess, you know, you
kind of at that time, I got to a point
where I was like, great, that's a dream role. And
then I did it and I was like now what.
So that took me overseas. I went to the UK
and from there is where I sort of fell in
love with styling. And it was really by accident. I
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was working under store and notting Hill, and because of
the location of the store and the stock that we
had in there, we would have, you know, a lot
of celebrity clients that would come in and purchase things,
but they would also borrow garments to wear two events
and things like that. And that was the first time
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that I was like, oh, this is a thing cool
because I think, I guess costume and styling two different things.
I feel like at the time, I just didn't really
realize that styling was something that could be a job,
because I guess in Australia it wasn't it wasn't really
as big as it is now.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I'm still at lin King, by the way, so I will.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I know, I'm curious about you know, I just always
think that along our journeys, we've always needed someone in
our background cheering us on, someone in our corner that's been.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Like, yeah, go for it, go and do that, and
friends and family watch us do I'm doing dance lessons,
I'm doing singing lessons. I'm doing all these things because
this is my goal.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
This is my goal. This is my goal. Okay, I've
done it. Everyone's happy for me, excited. Oh, by the way,
now I'm off. I need to like get this other
itch out of me. Yeah, we've been in your corner.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I mean, my family have all been really supportive. None
of them are in the arts or do anything anything
to do with the arts really, but have always sort
of just been like, yeah, do whatever you want to do.
You want to do that now, great, we support you,
which is awesome. My partner and his family are all
in the arts, so I guess that's another I guess
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more of an inspiration. I mean, obviously they're very supportive
as well, but I don't know. I guess I'm not
really a big plan. I know that there are people
that are like five years out, I want to be
doing this and that, Whereas I guess for me, it's
been quite organic, and you know, choosing to do certain
things or moving to different countries and doing whatevers then
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led to something else, which has then led to something else,
which has now led to what I'm doing now, which
is kind of accidental. But also I love it and
it's and it's great. So I guess when I look back,
all the experiences that I had, even doing the stage
performance still inform what I'm doing now.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I've jumped around with careers along the way.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I haven't had one of those, you know, you like
what you're talking about, the five year plan that has
never been in my style, like kind of fall with
the wind.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, I know what I want.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I've known what I've wanted and with set like you
know this is where I'm heading, but I just then
go with it, do you know what I mean? Like
your cat its just haven four sea things? Otherwise I
felt I can only say it like I'd be throwing
myself up against like a glass us doubles thick wall
almost and I just bounced back, you know, if it's
not meant to be. Timing's not right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It's like I can keep crashing out of this thing,
or okay, I've just bounced back. I'll need to just
have a reset here and maybe I need to learn
or chill out a bit, you know, doing all of
those things. And I've had those moments along the way
where I've just like cried, like what the hell were
my thinking? You know, I was secure doing this or
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and anything in the creative arts. Nothing is guaranteed for
us in anything that we do, Like it's not you know,
we have to hustle, we have to do the work.
We have to think about what the next project is,
or what the next contract is, or you know, we're
spooking for more clients or doing our own pr or
whatever we need to be doing. You know how hard
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has it got for you? Has there been.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Times where it's been like, you know what, this isn't
just organically falling into place for me right now?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I have to like time to hustle here.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Definitely, there was a lot of time, I guess in
the transition period between doing theater, which was well paid
and steady income when you've got it to then not
and everybody I guess, knowing that That's what I've trained
for for my whole life and then are like, are
you sure you don't want to do that anymore? You
were so good at that, Why don't you want to
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do it anymore? You know, like people still who I
knew from back then are like, so you don't do
any singing or anything anymore. I'm like, no, I'm a
full time stylist now, and they're like, I just don't understand,
you know, So I guess, but it took a long
time to kind of get to this point, and I think, yeah,
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it was just having to take all of those random
jobs and do a million and one different things in
between to be able to get to this point. I
will say that there's a really amazing community of arts
minded people, I guess who have helped along the way.
And I think that that's also something I really love
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about job, especially, is the connection that you get to
have with you know, because I'm working with talent, but
then I'm also having connections with designers and people who
are like, you know, creating accessories, and so it's kind
of a very broad spectrum in terms of production people,
and it feels like a really big kind of creative
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brain or family that sort of then ends up steering
you in different directions based on you know, like you
might have you do some random ad that you never
thought it was going to go anywhere. You're just like, fine,
I'll just do this because you know, like you said,
you're hustling. You just got to you get the gig,
you do it. But then you know two years later,
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that same director or that same makeup artist is like, oh,
by the way, now I'm doing this, would you want
to do it? I remember we had this you know,
great connection and whatever else. So I think it's about
for me just saying yes to as many things as possible,
because the more people you meet, the more collaborations you
get to have, and then, you know, the more things
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you get to do. And I think definitely everything that
I've done is been very organic in that sense, and
even the clients that I have now, it's been very
organic and just keeps building. Based on that. I guess
I'm quite lucky in the sense I've not really had
to in the last few years really hustle for things.
A lot of great opportunities have been presented, which is
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an amazing sort of position to be and I.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Think you've got which I worked hard for.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, correct, right, And so I'm sitting here going, yeah,
but I can see this, this personality that's in front
of me. Is this I'm imagining you're going onto set
or you're going into the job, and it's about the
experience in terms of, you know, we all need this
great outcome, but we're going to have some fun along
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the way, and we're going to be conspectful towards each
other and all of those things, you know. So that's
what I'm hearing, that's what I'm even seeing from you
as you're working through it. I'm thinking in this new
role as you're you know, in the stylis role, whenever
you sat back and just went, who wow, I can't
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believe this is happening. I can't believe I've just done
this thing, or like take me to there. What was
that thing for you that day or that you know,
it could have been something that was written about you,
or you know, an award or who knows, but that
moment for you went yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I feel like I'm that silly person. And I think
it's also that thing where when you work for yourself
and you're a freelance anything, you're always looking to the
next thing instead of celebrating the wins. And I probably
need to really just like sit back and be like, well,
I have done a lot of really great things, but
I'll do a really great thing and I'm like, great, awesome,
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that was awesome. Next, Like it's literally like within and
even in the sense of like not updating my website
or not doing enough on social media, because I'm literally
like I loved that. That was amazing. Everyone had a
great time, And for me, it's more about making sure
that the person who's wearing the things is happy and
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enjoying it and feeling good and if that's done, then
that's my job done. And then once that's done, I'm
like cool. And now I've got like five hundred other
people asking me for things because I said yes to
too many things at the same time. So on that,
I guess there's not really one defining moment, but lots
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of like little winds along the way. I addressed Thelma Plum.
She's an amazing indigenous artist. I've worked with her for
so many years and it's been really satisfying and rewarding
to be able to kind of like build something with
an artist. So yeah, starting off quite small, and then
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now you know, we've done the ARIA Awards a few times,
she's been the face of the fashion fir, you know
things fashion Week. Sorry. So it's just that thing of
like working towards big things and being able to kind
of take somebody on a journey and build and grow.
I really value that in terms of like relationships, And
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I guess for those types of things are things that
are that are sort of like quite unique and special,
which is great. What else I mean, there's so many things.
It was like, I'm like styling shows for fashion weeks
and festivals like throughout Sydney and Melbourne. Was something that
I had been wanting to do for a long time
and then was like I've got it, and I'm never
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emailing at the right time, you know, like when you
actually think about contacting the festival, they've already sorted everything
like months and months in advance. So finally actually sorting
that out was like a win in the sense that
I was like, I did it. I finally did it.
I got I got onto them.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
The code that means, you know, they're planning this thing
out twelve months in advance.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I need yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And I work with an independent designer, Eric Yvonne, similar
to my work with Thelma. I've been working with Eric
for years now. We've done three OZ fashion weeks, so
that's like kind of helping Eric to do all of
the creative direction, like obviously Eric creates the garments and
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the designs and everything, but then helping to tell the
story of who Eric Yvonne in Inverted Commas the label
is has been really rewarding something that I really enjoy. Yeah,
I guess it's all comes down to, like the people
that I'm working with, though not so much the like
prestige of what it is, which I think for me,
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it's like more rewarding to be doing something with somebody
who is like minded and we can sort of build
something together as opposed to like, yeah, we like just
I don't know the billboard awards or whatever it is,
Like you know, there's been ads in Times Square and
I'm like, mah, you know that is like sure, yeah
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that was the thing we did, but like that's not
something that it's like, it feels far away, you know,
whereas maybe for other people like those kind of bigger
things would been more important.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't know, so get this big ball of energy.
But has it ever been hard? Has it ever been
like what am I doing? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
This?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Constantly me always as being like why did I say
yes to so many things? Always like I mean, the
great thing about having so many relationships and working with
people ongoing is that there's always things that they're doing,
and as as the talent that you work with grow,
so does their requirements in terms of you know, like
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what they need from you or what type of events
they're doing. And television doesn't line up with runway, which
doesn't line up with the music. You know, all everyone
has their own kind of calendar that they work to
and always everything happens all at once because that's how
the world is.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So from one dancer dancer to another. Do you think
those lessons in the singing and the performing arts, and
particularly the dance, do you think that's helped.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Set you up for you know, that doing the work
until it's right, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I think all of these elements that you learn in
a class, you know, a dance class, basically.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yes, definitely, And I think I mean, I've got a
Bachelor of Performing Arts, which I just think is the
most ridiculous and also hilarious thing to have a bachelor in.
I mean it was relevant at the time, but you know,
my parents both did very convention like my dad was
an engineer and my mom was an English teacher, and
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I remember my mom was saying, my dad just used
to be like, what does she do at university? I
just don't understand, like, you know, because we'd be like,
we're going to choose the performance option instead of writing
an essay for something. But I think the biggest thing
I learned was how to everything in I guess in
the performing arts is subjective, like you can. It's about
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how you how you explain or rationalize, like your thinking
behind it. And I feel like that's probably the biggest
thing that I've learned and then taken into other situations.
And also I guess the skill of public speaking, like
I'm fine. You know, there'll be people who are just
like I don't want to do that, that I can't
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talk in front of a crowd, and like that part's
fine for me. That feels like second nature. It's not
an issue, even though I prefer to be behind the scenes,
you know, in terms of like the work that I do,
I'm someone who's a real believer in it being about
the work and not about me so much because I'm
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dressing somebody else for something, not the other way around,
or it being about my personality.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
When earlier I was asking about who was in your corner,
you know, who was that person? And you said mom
and dad, and I thought, oh, they you know, until
just then I thought, oh, did they.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Ever give you the talk, you know, which was.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
No, like what's your backup plan? You know, if you
you know you're heading off to do this performing?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
No, I mean I feel like they had that talk
between themselves, but they never kind of they never.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Stay down.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, it was always like an afterthought and they said
it to me like later on, like well, we were
a bit unsure about why you choose that, but you know.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Oh blessome all right. I've got a couple of fashion
kind of questions that I need to get through with you,
more out of curiosity than anything. What are these three
D bags that I'm seeing? Like we all need three
D bags?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Is this because I was looking at your Instagram and
maybe website a bit and going through a couple of
photos and.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I was thinking the bubble bag, bubble bags? Yes, so
I'm saying three D Are they not three D printed?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
A three D print?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
H okay, got it? Thank you for helping me get there. Yes,
bubble bags? Is it what we're needing? A we needing
to drew up a bit?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
No?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Like no, I feel like no, and not for life,
but like for fun definitely. Those mean yeah, are we're
going to turn up at the fashion festival and not
have the bag and think, look, everyone's got the bag,
Everyone's got the bag.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You know what of me? I'm very much of a
like I don't care what everyone else has and if
everyone else has it, then it sort of I'm a
bit like, oh do I like this now? Like I
think I don't care about what everyone thinks. It's more
about what you like. So if you love that bag,
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then wear the hell out of it, do you know
what I mean? Like it's it doesn't matter when people
ask me about trends. You know, there's a lot of
stylists will do you know this season you've got to
be looking out for this And obviously, yes, you're going
to see each season is going to have its own
special style that you know a lot of the brands
will be adopting. But I feel like who cares, like,
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look for something that feels good for you instead of
aspiring for something just because everyone else has it.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah? Now, yeah, Krinda, what's on your rack? Like the
rack that you've got?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
So I've got this image in my mind that these
amazing stylists like yourself go out shopping and you come
across pieces and they go on this special rack that's
oh yes, it's.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Not available at everybody rack. It's just like the rack.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Tell me about a piece that you've got on there
that you go, oh, I found this thing and it
was from this place, and it's got this story or
I've got this.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Literally everything that's on my rack is so random because
it is that it's all like, oh I got it
when I was in Iceland at this random thing and
I met this designer and so I got this thing,
and it's like really random and none of it goes together.
There's some like really amazing pieces from Romance was Born,
who I love, like they're kind of archival pieces. What
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else is there? There's Yeah, I mean, I guess the
most special pieces for me are the pieces that are
designer samples from brands who I've worked with that have
a really close relationship with. There's like really early pieces
from Eric's work, Eric Yvaughn that I would just like
never ever get rid of because they're amazing. Yeah, I
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don't know, it's very crazy. Like people were always like,
do you have anything that's like kind of quite simple.
I just need I want to I'm going to a wedding.
I'm like, I'm not your person for that. I'm really sorry,
but you need a glittery jumpsuit.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I can help you with that, but hey, that is
very good to know.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Hit me up. I've got one it's from a brawler.
It's really amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Oh my gosh, heaven, heaven, heaven. All right, fashion Week
is coming up.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I spolks to everyone about you know, that one thing
that they're looking forward to most.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You know, what is it for you?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, I mean biased, but I'm styling the student runway,
and before I was styling the runway, it's always been
my favorite. I'm always so keen to see, like because
the student's work is so conceptual and creative. They're not
bound by any type of commercial sort of parameters in
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terms of what they make. It's really the storytelling behind
how they make things is incredible. And then also their
work in sustainability as well, now, which I feel like
the sad thing about just going to a show is
that you don't get to see and find out about
all of those amazing things that they're doing. There's some
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there's one who's like created what looks like snake skin,
but it's a completely man made substance. You know, things
that you're just like, wait, I don't even understand how
you did that, But that's part of their process, which
is really incredible and always sort of the one thing
that I'm like, yeah, I want to see that, like,
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see something new that I've never seen before.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I have to admit, I did say to Ralph in
her episode. For me too, it's the emerging designers that
are coming forward. There is just this kind of inhibition.
I guess there too. You know, I'm putting my work out,
I'm you know, starting out here I go and so
have an opportunity to be on these runways, you know,
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with potential audiences of fifteen hundred people, and to do
that is you know, a credit to you know, the
team of people like yourself that have been you know,
curating this so carefully, so done, and thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's oh, it's a privilege though, Like it's really an
amazing opportunity because you get to meet the people who
are making them. I work with Imporium as well, and
they're sponsoring the runway, and as part of that, we're
also doing displays of the students work in the center too,
So throughout the whole month of the festival, well like
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throughout this month and into next month. After the runway,
there's going to be pieces of the students work displayed,
which is really cool because you then get to have
that moment where you get to look at it up
close and see the pieces either that you've seen in
the runway or there are some who didn't make it
into the runway. So the ones that are on display
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in the lead up are the ones who were like
the runners up. I guess, in the sense of the
National Graduate showcases an application base and there are thirty finals,
and then from that they choose ten to twelve to
actually be in the show. So the ones who are in,
you know that other fifteen or whatever are still incredible,
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and so we get to display their work as well,
which is cool because that means that more people get
to see it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
So this is what always happens.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I get to the end of time and I think
I'm number one disgrateful that you've been able to squeeze
us in the later crazy time you've got ahead, but
you've given us a really insight about not just how
you got there, but you know what's important to you.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And I think that that's.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I'm gritting from you to hear, because I will walk
out skipping for the rest of the day. Number one
now too, because I know you've got a secret jumpsuit
and it won't be beneath me and if you.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Will call it somewhere for me anytime. The second is,
you know, what have we taken away from today that
you can absolutely start out, you know, doing one thing
that you're passionate about, and then we keep evolving and
growing and you know, it's just we don't stop.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
No, And I think definitely in any sort of creative space,
it is about just continually growing and changing. Like as
soon as you get stagnant, that's when you stop being creative.
So the more you can do the better, the more
people you can meet, the different things that you can
do more and is more.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That's it, more and more. I think that's the title
of the episode right there. Love it. Thank you so
much for joining us on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Thank you so much for having me
Welcome to the Women of Influence podcast. I'm your host,
Kate Meete, and it is so great to be back
in your ears. I would like to acknowledge the traditional
owners of the land in which this podcast was recorded,
and I pay my respects to their elders past and present,
and the Aboriginal elders of other communities who may be
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listening today. This is a special five part series in
partnership with the Melbourne Fashion Festival, celebrating the extraordinary women
of the Melbourne fashion industry. Australia is home to some
remarkable women. They're raising foster families, running cattle stations, living
inspirational lives. Yet many of their tales of triumph are
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never profiled and never celebrated. So we're changing all that
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check out our show notes and of course the Women
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woman in your life that needs to be celebrated and
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we all need to hear her story, please connect with us.
We would love to hear from you. Thank you so
much always for your support and I hope that you
smile as much as I did recording these episodes. These
episodes were recorded via zoom in Melbourne and you know
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I love address. Thank you so much for joining the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited about this.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, we're all looking forward to the Melbourne Fashion Festival,
and you know, we're recording this in a moment in
time where you are right in the thick of preparing
for the twenty twenty five event.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And I'm always curious because.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Our women that sit in front of us to record
these episodes aren't the fully formed doing incredible things. It's
not like this overnight success.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Well maybe some of them are. It's been this series
of micro stories that gets us here. I want to
take us right back to what caught your eye. Was
it a piece of fabric, a conversation with a mum
or a relative or a sister with it, trying something
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on and feeling special. There's usually a moment, that early
childhood moment that just started the magic for you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I've always been, I guess, interested in storytelling and that's
kind of where it started for me. I have a
background in performance, so from a really young age I
did theater performing stage sort of things. So I guess
now working in fashion, it was kind of a natural
progression in terms of it's still being an element of performance,
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but just on a different scale. So I think probably
the theater is really where it all started. For me.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I was looking through your website and it was color.
That's very outdated. Okay, well we'll put that as a
little side note, like the update of the website coming soon.
Check it all out. But what I did notice, outdated
or not, was color. And I was looking at this
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catch line that you have, which was style by us
and for them, and I was just so curious about
that as your tagline in terms of every person that
you were dressing. It was like you were really bringing
out a section of their personality in that and with color.
That's just my eye, that's, you know, not the expert
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in the room here. Can you take me through, take
us all through that style by us and them? Is
that what I'm seeing? Is that what I'm feeling?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, I think for me, styling all the role of
a stylist is is kind of interpreting somebody's story and
then helping them to, I guess, define tell the story
of who they are through what they wear. I mean,
I guess there's that old saying, you know, a picture
tells a thousand words, and we do make assumptions and
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sort of inform our decisions quite often by what we
see before. It's like what we hear or you know,
get to know. So I think for a lot of
the people that I work with, it's really about being
able to tell the story of who they are in
what they're wearing. I love color. I'm definitely a more
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as more person. Don't ask me to do the really
paired back things. I mean, I can do it, but
it makes me sad. Is that thing where I'm just like,
but could we just add a little bit of a
clash here, or could it be something that just like
tips it over the edge? So I guess I'm drawn
to people who are a little bit adventurous in that
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way and wanting to sort of express themselves in a
way that's a little bit extra.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Why is that important?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know, I'm sitting in front of you at the moment,
and I mean, I'm in a corporate office, so I've
got my black pants on my shirt, and then I
know that come weekend, you know, I'm all about you know,
just putting stuff on my back, you know, I just forget. Well,
you take it off at the end of the day
if you didn't like it. It's we don't need to
overthink this thing. But it can be super scary trying
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something different when you've got someone in front of you.
Are you thinking, oh, I just let's just gently try
and coax a little bit of that quirkiness about them,
or you know, like that inner playfulness.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Is that what you're looking for? And again I could
be missing something, but every person I looked at there
was a sense of play and a sense of confidence,
you know, and I was thinking, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's definitely something where I mean, I guess a lot
of my work is with personalities, musicians, edians, TV personalities,
people who are sort of I guess, in the public
eye in a sense. And so usually for that type
of a person, there is an innate sense of confidence
already just given their roles of having to be in
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front of people all the time. They're quite used to
sort of doing that and knowing who they are, which
helps to inform, you know, how we put things together.
But I guess in the sense of like trying to
create something for somebody or like doing that storytelling. It
is really about you know, you might try a million
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things on and you can see it in the person's
face when they put something on that they feel really
good in. It actually like your whole body language changes.
And it doesn't even matter if it's something super loud
or it's something you know, kind of a bit more demure.
You know, it depends on the person. I think, so
for me, I'm really just trying to tell the story
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of the person, get that authenticity so that then they
can really feel confident in who they are and my
guess presenting that to the world because for these people especially,
a lot of their job is being critiqued by the
general public and so with that, obviously everyone has a
different opinion on style and what they like and don't like.
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And I feel like it's actually really interesting because so
many people have so many opinions that they feel that
they should just voice. I mean, I don't know whether
you know, like some of these people are like, Wow,
if anyone critiqued you on your daily basis of like
what you're wearing, the way that you're critiquing this person online,
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I wonder how you would go with that. But so
for that instance, for me, it's really important that no
matter what, the person that's wearing the garments feels confident
and really good in themselves, so that when they do
get a critique that they're like, you know, I didn't
like that or whatever it is, they're like, doesn't matter,
because I do.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You lit up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I talk about the light up when we seem to
fall on something and when you can tell the person
in front of you it feels comfortable and is excited
about what they're going on. Is that with the heart
of this lives for you, That capturing that moment and
then seeing it come to life with the finished product,
whether it's for an opening or a runway or a
photo shoot or a music concert or whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, it definitely is. And I mean it is that
thing where sometimes you know, you'll be struggling with an
outfit or you're trying to get the right accessories and
you've tried a million things on and it's the million
and one that is the one thing that makes it
all come together, and then everyone in the room is like,
there it is, and there it is. You know. It's
that thing where it's just like for whatever reason, it's
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that one element that was missing that brings the whole
thing together, which makes it complete. You know, it is
the full story of what that should be.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Take me back now, when you learnt this, was it
through a trial and error in terms of I've put
things on people and I knew they weren't right, or I,
you know, was trying things out and you know it
wasn't quite feeling there, or when did you have that
aha moment?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I got it, I got it, I got it. This
is what this all means.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I don't know whether it was like a one moment
or whether it is that it's a continual journey towards
that in the sense that every single look that you
put together, every single client that you work with, has
something different that they are needing or wanting, and so
it's ever changing in that sense that it's something that
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you're always striving for and sometimes you do have to
just be okay with it being okay. But if you
can make it amazing, then that's when it's really satisfying.
I guess.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Take me back to the theater. What what was your
first either role in a musical or a play or
some type of performance. What was that very first performance
that you remember.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I remember going to see Cats. My grandparents took us
to see Cats when we were really young, which now,
looking back at that musical, it's the most ridiculous premise
for a show ever. But at the time I really
loved it. I was really young, and I guess then
from there I just started performing. I used to do
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dancing and singing and acting and all of those things,
all of the you know, school musicals from a really
young age, and then finished UNI I did shows professionally,
so you know, dream role was to be in The
Lion King, which I did for you know, the first
the first time the Lion King was in Australia, which
feels like a completely different person now, like it was
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so long ago, and I thought that's what I was
going to do forever. But I guess, you know, you
kind of at that time, I got to a point
where I was like, great, that's a dream role. And
then I did it and I was like now what.
So that took me overseas. I went to the UK
and from there is where I sort of fell in
love with styling. And it was really by accident. I
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was working under store and notting Hill, and because of
the location of the store and the stock that we
had in there, we would have, you know, a lot
of celebrity clients that would come in and purchase things,
but they would also borrow garments to wear two events
and things like that. And that was the first time
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that I was like, oh, this is a thing cool
because I think, I guess costume and styling two different things.
I feel like at the time, I just didn't really
realize that styling was something that could be a job,
because I guess in Australia it wasn't it wasn't really
as big as it is now.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I'm still at lin King, by the way, so I will.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I know, I'm curious about you know, I just always
think that along our journeys, we've always needed someone in
our background cheering us on, someone in our corner that's been.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Like, yeah, go for it, go and do that, and
friends and family watch us do I'm doing dance lessons,
I'm doing singing lessons. I'm doing all these things because
this is my goal.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
This is my goal. This is my goal. Okay, I've
done it. Everyone's happy for me, excited. Oh, by the way,
now I'm off. I need to like get this other
itch out of me. Yeah, we've been in your corner.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I mean, my family have all been really supportive. None
of them are in the arts or do anything anything
to do with the arts really, but have always sort
of just been like, yeah, do whatever you want to do.
You want to do that now, great, we support you,
which is awesome. My partner and his family are all
in the arts, so I guess that's another I guess
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more of an inspiration. I mean, obviously they're very supportive
as well, but I don't know. I guess I'm not
really a big plan. I know that there are people
that are like five years out, I want to be
doing this and that, Whereas I guess for me, it's
been quite organic, and you know, choosing to do certain
things or moving to different countries and doing whatevers then
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led to something else, which has then led to something else,
which has now led to what I'm doing now, which
is kind of accidental. But also I love it and
it's and it's great. So I guess when I look back,
all the experiences that I had, even doing the stage
performance still inform what I'm doing now.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I've jumped around with careers along the way.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I haven't had one of those, you know, you like
what you're talking about, the five year plan that has
never been in my style, like kind of fall with
the wind.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, I know what I want.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I've known what I've wanted and with set like you
know this is where I'm heading, but I just then
go with it, do you know what I mean? Like
your cat its just haven four sea things? Otherwise I
felt I can only say it like I'd be throwing
myself up against like a glass us doubles thick wall
almost and I just bounced back, you know, if it's
not meant to be. Timing's not right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It's like I can keep crashing out of this thing,
or okay, I've just bounced back. I'll need to just
have a reset here and maybe I need to learn
or chill out a bit, you know, doing all of
those things. And I've had those moments along the way
where I've just like cried, like what the hell were
my thinking? You know, I was secure doing this or
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and anything in the creative arts. Nothing is guaranteed for
us in anything that we do, Like it's not you know,
we have to hustle, we have to do the work.
We have to think about what the next project is,
or what the next contract is, or you know, we're
spooking for more clients or doing our own pr or
whatever we need to be doing. You know how hard
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has it got for you? Has there been.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Times where it's been like, you know what, this isn't
just organically falling into place for me right now?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I have to like time to hustle here.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Definitely, there was a lot of time, I guess in
the transition period between doing theater, which was well paid
and steady income when you've got it to then not
and everybody I guess, knowing that That's what I've trained
for for my whole life and then are like, are
you sure you don't want to do that anymore? You
were so good at that, Why don't you want to
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do it anymore? You know, like people still who I
knew from back then are like, so you don't do
any singing or anything anymore. I'm like, no, I'm a
full time stylist now, and they're like, I just don't understand,
you know, So I guess, but it took a long
time to kind of get to this point, and I think, yeah,
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it was just having to take all of those random
jobs and do a million and one different things in
between to be able to get to this point. I
will say that there's a really amazing community of arts
minded people, I guess who have helped along the way.
And I think that that's also something I really love
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about job, especially, is the connection that you get to
have with you know, because I'm working with talent, but
then I'm also having connections with designers and people who
are like, you know, creating accessories, and so it's kind
of a very broad spectrum in terms of production people,
and it feels like a really big kind of creative
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brain or family that sort of then ends up steering
you in different directions based on you know, like you
might have you do some random ad that you never
thought it was going to go anywhere. You're just like, fine,
I'll just do this because you know, like you said,
you're hustling. You just got to you get the gig,
you do it. But then you know two years later,
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that same director or that same makeup artist is like, oh,
by the way, now I'm doing this, would you want
to do it? I remember we had this you know,
great connection and whatever else. So I think it's about
for me just saying yes to as many things as possible,
because the more people you meet, the more collaborations you
get to have, and then, you know, the more things
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you get to do. And I think definitely everything that
I've done is been very organic in that sense, and
even the clients that I have now, it's been very
organic and just keeps building. Based on that. I guess
I'm quite lucky in the sense I've not really had
to in the last few years really hustle for things.
A lot of great opportunities have been presented, which is
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an amazing sort of position to be and I.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Think you've got which I worked hard for.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, correct, right, And so I'm sitting here going, yeah,
but I can see this, this personality that's in front
of me. Is this I'm imagining you're going onto set
or you're going into the job, and it's about the
experience in terms of, you know, we all need this
great outcome, but we're going to have some fun along
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the way, and we're going to be conspectful towards each
other and all of those things, you know. So that's
what I'm hearing, that's what I'm even seeing from you
as you're working through it. I'm thinking in this new
role as you're you know, in the stylis role, whenever
you sat back and just went, who wow, I can't
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believe this is happening. I can't believe I've just done
this thing, or like take me to there. What was
that thing for you that day or that you know,
it could have been something that was written about you,
or you know, an award or who knows, but that
moment for you went yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I feel like I'm that silly person. And I think
it's also that thing where when you work for yourself
and you're a freelance anything, you're always looking to the
next thing instead of celebrating the wins. And I probably
need to really just like sit back and be like, well,
I have done a lot of really great things, but
I'll do a really great thing and I'm like, great, awesome,
(18:51):
that was awesome. Next, Like it's literally like within and
even in the sense of like not updating my website
or not doing enough on social media, because I'm literally
like I loved that. That was amazing. Everyone had a
great time, And for me, it's more about making sure
that the person who's wearing the things is happy and
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enjoying it and feeling good and if that's done, then
that's my job done. And then once that's done, I'm
like cool. And now I've got like five hundred other
people asking me for things because I said yes to
too many things at the same time. So on that,
I guess there's not really one defining moment, but lots
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of like little winds along the way. I addressed Thelma Plum.
She's an amazing indigenous artist. I've worked with her for
so many years and it's been really satisfying and rewarding
to be able to kind of like build something with
an artist. So yeah, starting off quite small, and then
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now you know, we've done the ARIA Awards a few times,
she's been the face of the fashion fir, you know
things fashion Week. Sorry. So it's just that thing of
like working towards big things and being able to kind
of take somebody on a journey and build and grow.
I really value that in terms of like relationships, And
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I guess for those types of things are things that
are that are sort of like quite unique and special,
which is great. What else I mean, there's so many things.
It was like, I'm like styling shows for fashion weeks
and festivals like throughout Sydney and Melbourne. Was something that
I had been wanting to do for a long time
and then was like I've got it, and I'm never
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emailing at the right time, you know, like when you
actually think about contacting the festival, they've already sorted everything
like months and months in advance. So finally actually sorting
that out was like a win in the sense that
I was like, I did it. I finally did it.
I got I got onto them.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
The code that means, you know, they're planning this thing
out twelve months in advance.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I need yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And I work with an independent designer, Eric Yvonne, similar
to my work with Thelma. I've been working with Eric
for years now. We've done three OZ fashion weeks, so
that's like kind of helping Eric to do all of
the creative direction, like obviously Eric creates the garments and
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the designs and everything, but then helping to tell the
story of who Eric Yvonne in Inverted Commas the label
is has been really rewarding something that I really enjoy. Yeah,
I guess it's all comes down to, like the people
that I'm working with, though not so much the like
prestige of what it is, which I think for me,
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it's like more rewarding to be doing something with somebody
who is like minded and we can sort of build
something together as opposed to like, yeah, we like just
I don't know the billboard awards or whatever it is,
Like you know, there's been ads in Times Square and
I'm like, mah, you know that is like sure, yeah
(22:10):
that was the thing we did, but like that's not
something that it's like, it feels far away, you know,
whereas maybe for other people like those kind of bigger
things would been more important.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't know, so get this big ball of energy.
But has it ever been hard? Has it ever been
like what am I doing? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
This?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Constantly me always as being like why did I say
yes to so many things? Always like I mean, the
great thing about having so many relationships and working with
people ongoing is that there's always things that they're doing,
and as as the talent that you work with grow,
so does their requirements in terms of you know, like
(22:50):
what they need from you or what type of events
they're doing. And television doesn't line up with runway, which
doesn't line up with the music. You know, all everyone
has their own kind of calendar that they work to
and always everything happens all at once because that's how
the world is.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So from one dancer dancer to another. Do you think
those lessons in the singing and the performing arts, and
particularly the dance, do you think that's helped.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Set you up for you know, that doing the work
until it's right, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I think all of these elements that you learn in
a class, you know, a dance class, basically.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yes, definitely, And I think I mean, I've got a
Bachelor of Performing Arts, which I just think is the
most ridiculous and also hilarious thing to have a bachelor in.
I mean it was relevant at the time, but you know,
my parents both did very convention like my dad was
an engineer and my mom was an English teacher, and
(23:55):
I remember my mom was saying, my dad just used
to be like, what does she do at university? I
just don't understand, like, you know, because we'd be like,
we're going to choose the performance option instead of writing
an essay for something. But I think the biggest thing
I learned was how to everything in I guess in
the performing arts is subjective, like you can. It's about
(24:20):
how you how you explain or rationalize, like your thinking
behind it. And I feel like that's probably the biggest
thing that I've learned and then taken into other situations.
And also I guess the skill of public speaking, like
I'm fine. You know, there'll be people who are just
like I don't want to do that, that I can't
(24:41):
talk in front of a crowd, and like that part's
fine for me. That feels like second nature. It's not
an issue, even though I prefer to be behind the scenes,
you know, in terms of like the work that I do,
I'm someone who's a real believer in it being about
the work and not about me so much because I'm
(25:01):
dressing somebody else for something, not the other way around,
or it being about my personality.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
When earlier I was asking about who was in your corner,
you know, who was that person? And you said mom
and dad, and I thought, oh, they you know, until
just then I thought, oh, did they.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Ever give you the talk, you know, which was.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
No, like what's your backup plan? You know, if you
you know you're heading off to do this performing?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
No, I mean I feel like they had that talk
between themselves, but they never kind of they never.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Stay down.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, it was always like an afterthought and they said
it to me like later on, like well, we were
a bit unsure about why you choose that, but you know.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Oh blessome all right. I've got a couple of fashion
kind of questions that I need to get through with you,
more out of curiosity than anything. What are these three
D bags that I'm seeing? Like we all need three
D bags?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Is this because I was looking at your Instagram and
maybe website a bit and going through a couple of
photos and.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I was thinking the bubble bag, bubble bags? Yes, so
I'm saying three D Are they not three D printed?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
A three D print?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
H okay, got it? Thank you for helping me get there. Yes,
bubble bags? Is it what we're needing? A we needing
to drew up a bit?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
No?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Like no, I feel like no, and not for life,
but like for fun definitely. Those mean yeah, are we're
going to turn up at the fashion festival and not
have the bag and think, look, everyone's got the bag,
Everyone's got the bag.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You know what of me? I'm very much of a
like I don't care what everyone else has and if
everyone else has it, then it sort of I'm a
bit like, oh do I like this now? Like I
think I don't care about what everyone thinks. It's more
about what you like. So if you love that bag,
(27:03):
then wear the hell out of it, do you know
what I mean? Like it's it doesn't matter when people
ask me about trends. You know, there's a lot of
stylists will do you know this season you've got to
be looking out for this And obviously, yes, you're going
to see each season is going to have its own
special style that you know a lot of the brands
will be adopting. But I feel like who cares, like,
(27:27):
look for something that feels good for you instead of
aspiring for something just because everyone else has it.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah? Now, yeah, Krinda, what's on your rack? Like the
rack that you've got?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
So I've got this image in my mind that these
amazing stylists like yourself go out shopping and you come
across pieces and they go on this special rack that's
oh yes, it's.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Not available at everybody rack. It's just like the rack.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Tell me about a piece that you've got on there
that you go, oh, I found this thing and it
was from this place, and it's got this story or
I've got this.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Literally everything that's on my rack is so random because
it is that it's all like, oh I got it
when I was in Iceland at this random thing and
I met this designer and so I got this thing,
and it's like really random and none of it goes together.
There's some like really amazing pieces from Romance was Born,
who I love, like they're kind of archival pieces. What
(28:26):
else is there? There's Yeah, I mean, I guess the
most special pieces for me are the pieces that are
designer samples from brands who I've worked with that have
a really close relationship with. There's like really early pieces
from Eric's work, Eric Yvaughn that I would just like
never ever get rid of because they're amazing. Yeah, I
(28:48):
don't know, it's very crazy. Like people were always like,
do you have anything that's like kind of quite simple.
I just need I want to I'm going to a wedding.
I'm like, I'm not your person for that. I'm really sorry,
but you need a glittery jumpsuit.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I can help you with that, but hey, that is
very good to know.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Hit me up. I've got one it's from a brawler.
It's really amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Oh my gosh, heaven, heaven, heaven. All right, fashion Week
is coming up.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I spolks to everyone about you know, that one thing
that they're looking forward to most.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You know, what is it for you?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, I mean biased, but I'm styling the student runway,
and before I was styling the runway, it's always been
my favorite. I'm always so keen to see, like because
the student's work is so conceptual and creative. They're not
bound by any type of commercial sort of parameters in
(29:46):
terms of what they make. It's really the storytelling behind
how they make things is incredible. And then also their
work in sustainability as well, now, which I feel like
the sad thing about just going to a show is
that you don't get to see and find out about
all of those amazing things that they're doing. There's some
(30:08):
there's one who's like created what looks like snake skin,
but it's a completely man made substance. You know, things
that you're just like, wait, I don't even understand how
you did that, But that's part of their process, which
is really incredible and always sort of the one thing
that I'm like, yeah, I want to see that, like,
(30:30):
see something new that I've never seen before.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I have to admit, I did say to Ralph in
her episode. For me too, it's the emerging designers that
are coming forward. There is just this kind of inhibition.
I guess there too. You know, I'm putting my work out,
I'm you know, starting out here I go and so
have an opportunity to be on these runways, you know,
(30:54):
with potential audiences of fifteen hundred people, and to do
that is you know, a credit to you know, the
team of people like yourself that have been you know,
curating this so carefully, so done, and thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's oh, it's a privilege though, Like it's really an
amazing opportunity because you get to meet the people who
are making them. I work with Imporium as well, and
they're sponsoring the runway, and as part of that, we're
also doing displays of the students work in the center too,
So throughout the whole month of the festival, well like
(31:27):
throughout this month and into next month. After the runway,
there's going to be pieces of the students work displayed,
which is really cool because you then get to have
that moment where you get to look at it up
close and see the pieces either that you've seen in
the runway or there are some who didn't make it
into the runway. So the ones that are on display
(31:49):
in the lead up are the ones who were like
the runners up. I guess, in the sense of the
National Graduate showcases an application base and there are thirty finals,
and then from that they choose ten to twelve to
actually be in the show. So the ones who are in,
you know that other fifteen or whatever are still incredible,
(32:12):
and so we get to display their work as well,
which is cool because that means that more people get
to see it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
So this is what always happens.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I get to the end of time and I think
I'm number one disgrateful that you've been able to squeeze
us in the later crazy time you've got ahead, but
you've given us a really insight about not just how
you got there, but you know what's important to you.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And I think that that's.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I'm gritting from you to hear, because I will walk
out skipping for the rest of the day. Number one
now too, because I know you've got a secret jumpsuit
and it won't be beneath me and if you.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Will call it somewhere for me anytime. The second is,
you know, what have we taken away from today that
you can absolutely start out, you know, doing one thing
that you're passionate about, and then we keep evolving and
growing and you know, it's just we don't stop.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
No, And I think definitely in any sort of creative space,
it is about just continually growing and changing. Like as
soon as you get stagnant, that's when you stop being creative.
So the more you can do the better, the more
people you can meet, the different things that you can
do more and is more.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That's it, more and more. I think that's the title
of the episode right there. Love it. Thank you so
much for joining us on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Thank you so much for having me
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