The World Awaits has hit a remarkable milestone, celebrating its 100th episode!
To get the party started, Avani Hotels & Resorts has partnered with us for a listener giveaway a tropical holiday in Thailand! To enter, simply like, follow and tag a friend on our Instagram page here.
On this special episode, our sound producer Alaisdair Leith joins us, and we chat about our favourite guests over the last two years (after all, there are now 100 to choose from!)
And it's time to ask ourselves the question we ask all our guests: What’s the most bizarre thing that’s ever happened to you on your travels? Flying pigs, anyone? Listen in to hear all about that escapade, and we also share our upcoming travels.
We’d like to give a big shout-out to those who have partnered with us over the past 100 episodes and shown so much support for the show: thanks to Avani Hotels & Resorts, Explore Worldwide and Tourism Ireland.
And finally, thank you to you, our listeners. We are so grateful to you. And we love hearing from you, so drop us a line at hello@theworldawaits.au to let us know your thoughts or discuss upcoming partnership opportunities.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Welcome
SPEAKER_01 (00:03):
back to The World Awaits.
We are so excited that this isour 100th episode.
So we started this podcastalmost two years ago and to
reach 100 episodes and see ourlisteners numbers increasing has
been very exciting.
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It's been super exciting.
We've loved having everybodyalong for the journey and we are
super excited to for a veryspecial giveaway this episode.
So I'm not going to tell you allabout it now.
We're going to go into a littledetail later on, but here's a
teaser.
It's a tropical holiday inThailand.
SPEAKER_02 (00:41):
We'll see you next time.
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Wanderer Magazine, and I'm alsoa crime fiction writer.
And I've just completed amanuscript that's currently with
an agent being pitched topublishers at the moment.
So I'm keeping everythingcrossed for good news there.
If you'd like to pray to theliterary gods, please do.
And I'm also one of our hostshere at The World Awakes.
And what about you, Al?
Tell us a bit about you.
Hi,
SPEAKER_00 (01:20):
so yeah, I'm Alistair Leith, the audio
producer for The World Awakes.
I am a entertainment journalist,I would say now.
So I do things like moviereviews, game reviews, tech
stuff.
Interestingly enough, I willreveal here that I've just
finished my first script for myfirst television show.
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It is getting prepped for pitchto a few places around.
So I'm very excited to announcethat to you.
I don't think I've spoken to youtwo about it at all.
I want to keep it very underwraps and not be pressured to
talk about what it is or whatit's about.
But yeah, I have absolutelyloved the last two years with
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both of you.
What about you, Belle?
SPEAKER_01 (02:08):
Yeah, two years.
I can't believe it.
Since we were sitting in a cafein, where were we?
We
SPEAKER_02 (02:14):
were in Altona.
And remember, we wrote ourentire plan out on a napkin.
I wonder if we still have aphoto of that
SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
napkin.
I do.
Let's do it.
I have a photo.
I have a photo of the napkinbecause once I got a job
description as a financejournalist in the island and the
guy wrote it out on a barcoaster and I said to him, can I
take that later on?
So when we did that, I'm goingto dig it up because when we
wrote it out on the napkin inthe cafe, I thought this isn't
the second time this ishappening in my life.
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Clearly, I'm completely linkedto napkins and bar coasters.
So yes, I have been a financejournalist in Ireland, which was
a weird part of my life,considering if my accountant
heard me say that, he'd be like,but you are financially
illiterate.
But I am a journalist, and we'reall in Melbourne, by the way.
At the moment, I am really mucha pre-journalist.
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I have a focus on the MiddleEast, where I've lived on and
off for years.
But I also lived in Ireland fora long time, like I was nearly
five years there, which was areally big chunk of my first
working life.
I write for the Sydney MorningHerald and The Age.
That's back from South Australiafor a good weekend.
The Financial Review, LuxuryEscapes, pretty much anyone who
pays me.
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And I guess what I've beendiverging in now, because Percy,
you've been doing crime fiction,Alice, you've been writing TV.
I feel like the underachiever,like the snotty little kid
that's done nothing sitting inthe corner.
I'm doing a lot more radio now,though, too, which has been
really exciting with groups likeABC Radio and some of the
commercials.
So...
Yeah, I can't say I've got amanuscript in my back pocket.
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Everybody's written a book,right, that was just crap and
then they chucked it away.
So I've got that.
I think you both have got thattoo.
Congratulations.
Thanks for overshadowing me aswell.
Not a competition.
SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
You did omit to mention that you were Australian
Travel Writer of the Year twoyears in a row.
So we will just put that littleone out there.
But yes, no.
So you can rest assured thatyou're in good hands here.
We, Belle and I, have both gotjournalism backgrounds.
I did news journalism as well inNew Zealand.
And As Alice mentioned, he'sbeen around the traps a bit.
Yeah, but we love what we do andwe are absolutely passionate
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about this podcast and we hopethat you hear that from us.
Given it's such a specialmilestone, we wanted to talk
about some of our favouriteepisodes that you can scoot on
back and have a listen tobecause we're finding
increasingly now that we've got100 episodes under our belt,
that's what people are doing.
The numbers are really growingsignificantly for some of our
earlier episodes.
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We're going to kick off with youabout what are some of your
favourite or what was yourfavourite Yeah, it's
SPEAKER_01 (04:48):
been an interesting one going back because some of
our most popular episodes,things, anything to do with
Italy, the minute we say Italy,everyone goes, oh my God, I need
to go and have a beautiful lifethere.
When I had met the fabulousMaria Pasquale, who is an
Australian-Italian author, thefunny thing is we used to
holiday when we were kids, ourbeach houses on the Mornington
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Peninsula, because everybody hada rough little shack down there,
were two streets away.
So we grew up in these...
She was living a far moredelicious lifestyle there in her
Italian family.
So I've always loved listeningto Maria come on there and talk
about eating in Rome.
And she's actually been back totalk about the Amalfi Coast.
So that's gone crazy.
And then any time you mentionedSpain, like when Ben Grounder
was talking about eating inSpain, that was a really big one
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as well.
Do you remember we had thatwalking guide, Glenis Johnson,
who had walked the Camino deSantiago 35?
Yeah, she was amazing.
Way back in episode eight.
So I think she's probably doneit a few more times since then.
And I'm tipping Greece is goingto be a big one for the European
summer this year.
You know how the last few yearspost COVID, everybody on your
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Instagram has been in eitherItaly or Spain.
I think they're all going to bein Greece this year.
So I'm seeing our Greek episodesare going through the roof.
That's 80 and 63.
So they're always a great one tolook back onto.
But Possibly my favourite iseither the one I just did
recently on South Africa withthe author Tony Park, just
because he opened my eyes to theidea of budget game drives and
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how they get you so close to theaction, which terrifies me,
simultaneously as well as makingme just want to pack up and
drive a Suzuki hatchback throughthe Kruger National Park.
I mean, what could possibly gowrong?
But then...
I've landed on it, and it wasactually Tim Cope.
Tim Cope, who is an Australianauthor, and I fangirled him for
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years when he published his bookOn the Trail of Genghis Khan,
where he rode from Mongolia.
He rode across Genghis's entireempire on horseback, took him
three years from the steppes ofChina through to the fringe of
Hungary, which is astonishing.
It took me months just to findhim.
because he's so off-grid.
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And then it took another coupleof months to line up the
interview.
But I think I just wantedsomebody to take me so far away
from my world and give a glimpseinto another extraordinary life,
such as the life of a Mongoliannomad.
And that's why I love it.
And that is episode 43.
What about you?
Who's going next?
Who's going next?
SPEAKER_00 (07:22):
I think it's me.
So look, mine are going to sounda bit biased.
The first one that I'm goingwith is episode 90.
the Kokoskeeling Islands.
I had never heard of this placeto be totally upfront.
Didn't even know it was remotelyclose to where we are or what it
was about.
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And after hearing Hurstie'sfirst half of the journey, not
the getting stuck there part, Iwas talking to my partner.
I'm like, that sounds likesomewhere nice.
It's not too far.
That will still feel tropicaland like a different experience.
So I really love that episode.
I'm actually going to look atgoing there at some point this
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year.
SPEAKER_02 (08:07):
I love that.
That's the whole thing we wantto do with our apps is inspire
people.
So thank you, Elsie.
I love that.
SPEAKER_00 (08:13):
But yeah, just like literally do a Google image
search and you'll be bookingyour tickets straight away.
My next one will have to beVienna, episode 83, because I
think the whole time The bellwas in Vienna.
I think both of us, Kirsty, werevery jealous.
Yeah, we were.
Amazing updates and just howperfect it sounded while we
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sweated away over here duringChristmas.
SPEAKER_01 (08:41):
We did freeze our chops off, yeah, but you were
both by the beach.
I went
SPEAKER_00 (08:45):
into it every year.
It's a bit like, oh, I think Ibought something different.
And your photos were justgorgeous.
Yes.
Absolutely beautiful.
So definitely worth hearing allabout that on episode 83.
Thank
SPEAKER_01 (08:58):
you.
SPEAKER_00 (08:59):
And my third favorite is Norway, just because
it's Norway.
Episode 55.
So anything where you mentionthe word fjords, I'm there.
So yeah, I think that was yourinterview, Kirstie.
SPEAKER_02 (09:12):
Yeah.
We've got a couple of Norwayones.
I went on a cruise to Norwaytoo.
And then we also interviewed atNorway, which is this incredible
tour company.
Yeah.
And yeah, and they really takeyou and miss you in the culture.
So that was the interview there.
Yeah, amazing.
I loved that interview too.
SPEAKER_00 (09:27):
Sounds incredible.
How about you, Kirsty?
SPEAKER_02 (09:29):
Yes.
Again, like Belle, I had lotsthough.
It was very hard to narrow down.
But the two that I'll highlightwould be way, way back in
episode 10.
I interviewed Charles Street,who's actually, he lives in
Perth and he splits his timeactually between Perth and South
Africa.
And he runs a company calledNkwazi Adventures.
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And what they do is youfundraise before you go and you
fundraise for a bike.
And then they take the bikesinto these remote communities
and they give them to thesechildren.
And the remarkable part aboutthis is It's not just about
giving kids something fun to do.
There's been stats that he hadthat showed that there'd been an
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academic increase from 35% to85% because a lot of these kids
are walking like two hours a dayjust to get to school.
So by getting a bike by you forhelping fundraisers and then you
literally get to go and giftyour bike and look at the
child's face as you're givingthem this bike, those children
are then able to one, get toschool.
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And a lot of the kids he wassaying, When they graduate from
high school, which now they'redoing increasingly, the ones
that have these bikes, theyactually hand their bike down to
other kids.
So I just thought, gosh, Charlesis an amazing person.
He has another full-time job,but he just does this on the
side because he wants to make adifference.
And he's originally from SouthAfrica.
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And what a remarkable person heis.
And the other one that I reallyenjoyed and loved chatting with
was Lucy Bernard, who's the 2024Adventurer of the Year by
Australian Geographic and she'san Australian woman who's
walking the length of the earthand she's almost there so we
will have to get her back on tochat about what she's done but
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her journey is so incredible.
So she is walking from Argentinato Alaska, covering 30,000
kilometers across 14 countries.
And she's got a dog with her whoshe did a poll on to try and get
a name for it.
And the name that won wasWombat, which is so cute.
And she talks in this interview,which is episode 84, about
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how...
She came to be able to take adog with her and how it's been
so remarkable having the dogwith her.
And she's now started a filmproduction company to celebrate
the people she meets along theway.
And these remarkable communitiesthat she wants to highlight.
So not to get people to gothere, but just so that people
can learn to respect theseclosed off communities and their
cultures.
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And I love that.
Some of the stories she tells ofthe people she met and these
very remote communities is just,yeah, truly remarkable.
So what an incredible feat.
And yeah, so that one I think isalso definitely worth going back
and having a listen to.
So that's the end of our bestepisodes.
Please go back and have a lookat our earlier episodes and
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yeah, see what there's plenty tochoose from.
There's now 100 episodes.
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Music
SPEAKER_02 (12:32):
We thought it was only fitting if we asked each
other and answered the questionwe ask all of our guests.
So we have a question we askevery single guest at the end of
our episodes, and it is, what'sthe most bizarre thing that ever
happened on your travels?
And oh my God, we've had someincredible responses.
We thought we'd do it ourselves.
So let's kick off with you,Alastair.
SPEAKER_00 (12:53):
All right.
My family may kill me for thisone.
So we were on a family trip andwe had a layover in Hong Kong on
the way to London.
And we ended up stayingovernight due to a cancelled
flight, etc, etc.
You all know the drill.
And we were at this really cheaphotel and the dinner was buffet
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style and everything, nothingwas in English.
So no one had any idea what theywere eating.
My brother decided to just go inand go for it.
Whatever looked good, whateversmelled good, he was going to go
for it.
We tried to warn him, hey, justbe careful.
You've got to sit on a planefrom here to London.
You don't want your stomach tobe upset.
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Maybe ask before you load upyour plate.
And he went over to this sectionand started loading up this
stuff that looked like SwedenSour Sauce, so I'll forgive him.
And my mum, being the cautiousmum that she is, asked the
hostess, what is that dish?
And she said, oh, it's goosechunks in goose blood gravy.
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And mum said, we need to tellhim.
And I'm like, no, we don't.
He's not sitting near us on theplane.
Don't tell him.
So we went back and he's hoeinginto it, ate the whole thing.
I'm like, oh, was that good?
He said, yeah, it was the best.
It was so delicious.
I'm like, oh, that's reallygood.
We found out what it is if youwant to know.
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And then, yeah, we eventuallytold him.
And yeah, he told us that it wasthe worst thing he's ever eaten,
which is untrue because at thetime he loved it.
But it always helps to alwaysask your hostess if you can't
read the signs to pleaseinterpret if you can to know
what you're eating beforegetting on a very long flight.
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Because the flight didn't farewell is all I will say.
SPEAKER_01 (14:45):
And that was my next question.
How was he on the flight?
SPEAKER_00 (14:48):
I'm so grateful that he was not sitting next to
SPEAKER_01 (14:51):
me.
Oh
SPEAKER_00 (14:52):
my God.
What about you, Belle?
SPEAKER_01 (14:54):
Love this story.
I was up in the Kimberley atBullough Station, which is one
of the iconic Outback stations.
Yeah, mate.
And I was there doing a photoessay, and I was with another
journalist, Mark Muller fromOutback magazine.
And the owners at the time,Franz Renacher, is also a pilot.
So they have a helicopter.
So we took the doors off thehelicopter, strapped ourselves
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in, and then we were flyingaround the property, shooting it
on aerial, dropping down, havingpicnics and stuff.
It was all fantastic.
Had a great day.
Just before the sun sets, we'reflying back to the homestead.
Franz is in the front.
We're at the back.
No doors, winged in my hair, allof that sort of thing.
It was fantastic.
And then Franz says over theheadphones, we're just going to
pull the, sorry, I've just gotto pull the helicopter down.
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He dropped the helicopter intothis giant swamp.
They were like mosquitoes thesize of entire chickens flying
past.
And it had rushes above youreyes.
And Franz leans underneath theseat, the pilot's seat, pulls
out a shotgun and runs off.
And we're like, what'shappening?
I said, we'd better go and findout.
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And Mike goes, oh, okay.
So we run off after him.
We hear these shots.
Bang.
Franz comes back with hissmoking gun, shoves it back
under the seat, lifts thehelicopter back and flies a
couple of meters away.
And he's this giant black wildboar lying on the ground that
he's just shot.
Ties the legs of the boar to arope.
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Ties the rope.
to the runners of the helicopterand we fly back to that
homestead and this pig isswinging underneath like a
clock's pendulum.
And it's swinging.
It's like, oh my God, this is sobizarre.
As we get over the homestead, hecircles over this gigantic water
tank and from the surface of thetank, these two sets of eyes
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come up.
He cuts, the pig drops into thewater and the pig and the eyes
all disappear below the surfaceand he says to us, I promised
Marley I'd feed the crocs beforedinner.
See, two crocodiles that theywere shipping off to, I think,
San Diego Zoo because there werecrocodiles everywhere.
And doesn't get any moreAustralian than that.
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And they had to leave the crocs.
So that is my, I think that ismy most bizarre story.
travel experience.
And that's it.
SPEAKER_02 (17:09):
Tracy, tell us about yours.
Okay, so I had to think aboutthis.
I'm going to tell a little storyfrom back in my 20s.
So when I was in my 20s andtraxing around Europe, as you
do, I was on a train from Franceto Spain and we were just, we
were quite young and we werebackpackers and we had, we were
just sitting on this train andall of a sudden the train
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stopped and it wasn't a placewhere we thought we were
stopping and a train just stops.
And this group of guys justjumps on board and they're all
just wearing jeans and t-shirts.
And then we look down and theyall pull out these guns.
They're all carrying guns, butthey're just like in completely
casual clothing.
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And then, and they were quiteyoung.
They were like around our age.
And then they started walkingaround asking everyone for their
passports.
And we're like, oh my God, whatthe hell is happening here?
Everyone had to hand out theirpassports.
And then they took...
half the people on our carriageoff with them, and then the
train just carried on.
And we never found out whathappened, what it was about.
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It was just honestly, truly themost bizarre thing that had ever
happened in my entire life.
That would have to be one of themost bizarre things that has
ever happened to me.
SPEAKER_01 (18:21):
But I didn't like that.
I'm on a bus with passportcontrol.
But anyway, so there you go.
Souvenirs that you can bringback.
Did he jump on a bus holding agun?
Marry me! Marry me! Or I'll killyou! No, he didn't do that,
actually.
It was all important for oldguys on the Sinai Peninsula.
They kept pulling up with thesegiant guns.
Guns and travel are generallynon-compatible.
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But anyway, that's just myopinion.
So after all those bizarremoments, we are absolutely
inspired to hit the road againbecause we want to see more
guns, more crocodiles, more deadpigs.
Oh my gosh, I love travel somuch.
Let's go, let's go.
So I'm going to kick off firstwith my next trip because I
don't, yeah, because I don'tknow.
But one of the things I didn'tmention is I have a very strong
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connection to Egypt where I'velived and I brought back the
ultimate souvenir, also known asa husband.
So I am happy and I also want tocall him that.
He really does.
So I'm going back to Cairo.
Not ideal timing because it'sgoing to be very hot.
Also a little bit of slap andtickle going on around the area,
but we're going to zen breatheour way through it.
It was supposed to be theopening of the Grand Egyptian
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Museum, but of course theypostponed it because of said
slap and tickle happening withIran and Israel, but I'm sure
it's going to be fine.
So I'm going back to go back tothe pyramids because there's
been a lot of change happeningthere at the moment.
And I'm going to go and swim inthe Southern Mediterranean
because it is the clearest andmost beautiful water.
that you've ever seen in yourlife.
And it's astonishing.
It's Whitsundays on steroids.
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Gosh, they're not going to letme back in the country.
So that's my next traveladventure.
What about you, Alistair?
SPEAKER_00 (19:54):
I'm finally doing my dream trip.
So I've always wanted to go toBrazil and Colombia, and I'm
finally doing it in October.
So I'll be staying at the WHotel in Bogota for a week
before heading over to Brazil.
To go to Rio.
Unfortunately, I did miss thatfree Lady Gaga concert on the
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beach.
But I am very excited just togo.
So, yeah, I'm very excited.
Just started planning that.
Booked the hotel the other day.
And that means that I have to gonow.
Are
SPEAKER_01 (20:25):
you going to wait?
I want to see, like, in yourCarnivale sequence.
I want to see you shooting
SPEAKER_00 (20:30):
yourself.
Who knows?
I'm not planning much.
It's just going to be a go andsee kind of trip.
And I think this will be myfirst time flying economy in a
while.
So pray for me.
SPEAKER_01 (20:43):
No, not praying for you at all.
I always fly economy, but Icannot wait to have you on the
podcast.
We're going to get you on thepodcast and grill you about
everything that you've learned.
What an insane trip.
Kirsty, where are you going tonext?
I've got a couple of
SPEAKER_02 (20:55):
exciting just coming up this year.
So in a couple of weeks, aswe're recording this, actually,
as we go to air, it'll only beabout a week.
Before I leave, I'm going toCambodia.
Incredible property that I foundcalled Songsa, which is run by
this woman called MelitaKulimandis, who bought the
island for US$15,000 back in theearly 2000s.
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And she completely transformedthis island from a desolate
place.
with depleted marine life intoCambodia's second marine
protected sanctuary.
And it's now this incredible,lush, beautiful, incredible
property.
And I'm also staying in SiemReap at this incredible
five-star Avani property calledFCC Angkor Bay Avani.
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And I absolutely cannot wait togo there.
That is a property that youmight have heard us talking
about earlier, actually, Belleand I, and you will hear all
about that when I get back.
And then later in the year, inNovember, I'm going on a Viking
cruise, which I'm so excitedabout.
We are cruising from Athens inGreece up to Venice.
And so visiting Croatia andMontenegro along the way.
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And I am super excited aboutthat because Viking do the most
incredible cruises and have themost beautiful Scandi design.
beautiful luxury ship.
So I can't wait to jump on boardthat.
So you'll be hearing about allthree of us and our incredible
adventures in coming episodes.
So make sure that you continuelistening with us and hang in
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there with us and see what we'reall doing.
So next up, we have someexciting news.
SPEAKER_01 (22:29):
Oh, what you've been waiting for, my friends, our
special prize to mark this 100thepisode.
We have partnered with Avani.
to give away.
So Khao Lak is a beachsideresort in southern Thailand,
best to fly into Phuket and it'sa one-hour drive north of the
airport.
It is also close to the divesites of the Similan Islands and
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you can also visit Phang NgaBay.
So I think James Bond movies,they've got rock climbing sites
around this area and The Avaniexcursions include a gentle
bamboo rafting through the Thaijungles, surfing and Thai
cooking classes.
And the resort's facilitiesinclude kids' clubs and, because
of course this is Thailand, adivine spa.
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And so you will get a dailybreakfast and dinner, round-trip
airport transfers, and also,love this, a one-time...
Muay Thai boxing class for twopeople.
If you want to sort yourdifferences out.
Perfect for honeymooners, forpeople who have been married for
20 years, for friends who havegot certain grievances that they
never spoke about in public.
It's so much fun.
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What an amazing prize of fournights in paradise.
So I'm so excited.
I want to go.
SPEAKER_00 (23:39):
Right.
You do.
But that is such an amazingprize.
How can listeners enter,Kirstie?
SPEAKER_02 (23:46):
So to enter, who doesn't want a tropical holiday?
And particularly Thailand.
Thailand, I have to say, is oneof my most favorite places to
go.
I've been multiple times and ohmy God, I just adore it.
The food, the people, it's soeasy to get around and
incredible properties.
So this property is one that youdo not want to miss.
So to enter, you've got to jumpon over to our Instagram, which
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is theworldawaits.
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And we will be having a draw,which we'll be announcing in
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September.
coming weeks.
Yeah, we're going to give peoplea little bit of time to get
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don't forget to like both thosepages and also, yeah, like the
competition page.
And you will be in the draw towin this incredible prize of
four nights in this beautifultropical Thailand resort.
SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
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back to The World Awaits.
We are so excited that this isour 100th episode.
So we started this podcastalmost two years ago and to
reach 100 episodes and see ourlisteners numbers increasing has
been very exciting.
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It's been super exciting.
We've loved having everybodyalong for the journey and we are
super excited to for a veryspecial giveaway this episode.
So I'm not going to tell you allabout it now.
We're going to go into a littledetail later on, but here's a
teaser.
It's a tropical holiday inThailand.
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We'll see you next time.
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Wanderer Magazine, and I'm alsoa crime fiction writer.
And I've just completed amanuscript that's currently with
an agent being pitched topublishers at the moment.
So I'm keeping everythingcrossed for good news there.
If you'd like to pray to theliterary gods, please do.
And I'm also one of our hostshere at The World Awakes.
And what about you, Al?
Tell us a bit about you.
Hi,
SPEAKER_00 (01:20):
so yeah, I'm Alistair Leith, the audio
producer for The World Awakes.
I am a entertainment journalist,I would say now.
So I do things like moviereviews, game reviews, tech
stuff.
Interestingly enough, I willreveal here that I've just
finished my first script for myfirst television show.
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It is getting prepped for pitchto a few places around.
So I'm very excited to announcethat to you.
I don't think I've spoken to youtwo about it at all.
I want to keep it very underwraps and not be pressured to
talk about what it is or whatit's about.
But yeah, I have absolutelyloved the last two years with
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both of you.
What about you, Belle?
SPEAKER_01 (02:08):
Yeah, two years.
I can't believe it.
Since we were sitting in a cafein, where were we?
We
SPEAKER_02 (02:14):
were in Altona.
And remember, we wrote ourentire plan out on a napkin.
I wonder if we still have aphoto of that
SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
napkin.
I do.
Let's do it.
I have a photo.
I have a photo of the napkinbecause once I got a job
description as a financejournalist in the island and the
guy wrote it out on a barcoaster and I said to him, can I
take that later on?
So when we did that, I'm goingto dig it up because when we
wrote it out on the napkin inthe cafe, I thought this isn't
the second time this ishappening in my life.
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Clearly, I'm completely linkedto napkins and bar coasters.
So yes, I have been a financejournalist in Ireland, which was
a weird part of my life,considering if my accountant
heard me say that, he'd be like,but you are financially
illiterate.
But I am a journalist, and we'reall in Melbourne, by the way.
At the moment, I am really mucha pre-journalist.
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I have a focus on the MiddleEast, where I've lived on and
off for years.
But I also lived in Ireland fora long time, like I was nearly
five years there, which was areally big chunk of my first
working life.
I write for the Sydney MorningHerald and The Age.
That's back from South Australiafor a good weekend.
The Financial Review, LuxuryEscapes, pretty much anyone who
pays me.
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And I guess what I've beendiverging in now, because Percy,
you've been doing crime fiction,Alice, you've been writing TV.
I feel like the underachiever,like the snotty little kid
that's done nothing sitting inthe corner.
I'm doing a lot more radio now,though, too, which has been
really exciting with groups likeABC Radio and some of the
commercials.
So...
Yeah, I can't say I've got amanuscript in my back pocket.
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Everybody's written a book,right, that was just crap and
then they chucked it away.
So I've got that.
I think you both have got thattoo.
Congratulations.
Thanks for overshadowing me aswell.
Not a competition.
SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
You did omit to mention that you were Australian
Travel Writer of the Year twoyears in a row.
So we will just put that littleone out there.
But yes, no.
So you can rest assured thatyou're in good hands here.
We, Belle and I, have both gotjournalism backgrounds.
I did news journalism as well inNew Zealand.
And As Alice mentioned, he'sbeen around the traps a bit.
Yeah, but we love what we do andwe are absolutely passionate
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about this podcast and we hopethat you hear that from us.
Given it's such a specialmilestone, we wanted to talk
about some of our favouriteepisodes that you can scoot on
back and have a listen tobecause we're finding
increasingly now that we've got100 episodes under our belt,
that's what people are doing.
The numbers are really growingsignificantly for some of our
earlier episodes.
(04:41):
We're going to kick off with youabout what are some of your
favourite or what was yourfavourite Yeah, it's
SPEAKER_01 (04:48):
been an interesting one going back because some of
our most popular episodes,things, anything to do with
Italy, the minute we say Italy,everyone goes, oh my God, I need
to go and have a beautiful lifethere.
When I had met the fabulousMaria Pasquale, who is an
Australian-Italian author, thefunny thing is we used to
holiday when we were kids, ourbeach houses on the Mornington
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Peninsula, because everybody hada rough little shack down there,
were two streets away.
So we grew up in these...
She was living a far moredelicious lifestyle there in her
Italian family.
So I've always loved listeningto Maria come on there and talk
about eating in Rome.
And she's actually been back totalk about the Amalfi Coast.
So that's gone crazy.
And then any time you mentionedSpain, like when Ben Grounder
was talking about eating inSpain, that was a really big one
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as well.
Do you remember we had thatwalking guide, Glenis Johnson,
who had walked the Camino deSantiago 35?
Yeah, she was amazing.
Way back in episode eight.
So I think she's probably doneit a few more times since then.
And I'm tipping Greece is goingto be a big one for the European
summer this year.
You know how the last few yearspost COVID, everybody on your
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Instagram has been in eitherItaly or Spain.
I think they're all going to bein Greece this year.
So I'm seeing our Greek episodesare going through the roof.
That's 80 and 63.
So they're always a great one tolook back onto.
But Possibly my favourite iseither the one I just did
recently on South Africa withthe author Tony Park, just
because he opened my eyes to theidea of budget game drives and
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how they get you so close to theaction, which terrifies me,
simultaneously as well as makingme just want to pack up and
drive a Suzuki hatchback throughthe Kruger National Park.
I mean, what could possibly gowrong?
But then...
I've landed on it, and it wasactually Tim Cope.
Tim Cope, who is an Australianauthor, and I fangirled him for
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years when he published his bookOn the Trail of Genghis Khan,
where he rode from Mongolia.
He rode across Genghis's entireempire on horseback, took him
three years from the steppes ofChina through to the fringe of
Hungary, which is astonishing.
It took me months just to findhim.
because he's so off-grid.
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And then it took another coupleof months to line up the
interview.
But I think I just wantedsomebody to take me so far away
from my world and give a glimpseinto another extraordinary life,
such as the life of a Mongoliannomad.
And that's why I love it.
And that is episode 43.
What about you?
Who's going next?
Who's going next?
SPEAKER_00 (07:22):
I think it's me.
So look, mine are going to sounda bit biased.
The first one that I'm goingwith is episode 90.
the Kokoskeeling Islands.
I had never heard of this placeto be totally upfront.
Didn't even know it was remotelyclose to where we are or what it
was about.
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And after hearing Hurstie'sfirst half of the journey, not
the getting stuck there part, Iwas talking to my partner.
I'm like, that sounds likesomewhere nice.
It's not too far.
That will still feel tropicaland like a different experience.
So I really love that episode.
I'm actually going to look atgoing there at some point this
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year.
SPEAKER_02 (08:07):
I love that.
That's the whole thing we wantto do with our apps is inspire
people.
So thank you, Elsie.
I love that.
SPEAKER_00 (08:13):
But yeah, just like literally do a Google image
search and you'll be bookingyour tickets straight away.
My next one will have to beVienna, episode 83, because I
think the whole time The bellwas in Vienna.
I think both of us, Kirsty, werevery jealous.
Yeah, we were.
Amazing updates and just howperfect it sounded while we
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sweated away over here duringChristmas.
SPEAKER_01 (08:41):
We did freeze our chops off, yeah, but you were
both by the beach.
I went
SPEAKER_00 (08:45):
into it every year.
It's a bit like, oh, I think Ibought something different.
And your photos were justgorgeous.
Yes.
Absolutely beautiful.
So definitely worth hearing allabout that on episode 83.
Thank
SPEAKER_01 (08:58):
you.
SPEAKER_00 (08:59):
And my third favorite is Norway, just because
it's Norway.
Episode 55.
So anything where you mentionthe word fjords, I'm there.
So yeah, I think that was yourinterview, Kirstie.
SPEAKER_02 (09:12):
Yeah.
We've got a couple of Norwayones.
I went on a cruise to Norwaytoo.
And then we also interviewed atNorway, which is this incredible
tour company.
Yeah.
And yeah, and they really takeyou and miss you in the culture.
So that was the interview there.
Yeah, amazing.
I loved that interview too.
SPEAKER_00 (09:27):
Sounds incredible.
How about you, Kirsty?
SPEAKER_02 (09:29):
Yes.
Again, like Belle, I had lotsthough.
It was very hard to narrow down.
But the two that I'll highlightwould be way, way back in
episode 10.
I interviewed Charles Street,who's actually, he lives in
Perth and he splits his timeactually between Perth and South
Africa.
And he runs a company calledNkwazi Adventures.
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And what they do is youfundraise before you go and you
fundraise for a bike.
And then they take the bikesinto these remote communities
and they give them to thesechildren.
And the remarkable part aboutthis is It's not just about
giving kids something fun to do.
There's been stats that he hadthat showed that there'd been an
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academic increase from 35% to85% because a lot of these kids
are walking like two hours a dayjust to get to school.
So by getting a bike by you forhelping fundraisers and then you
literally get to go and giftyour bike and look at the
child's face as you're givingthem this bike, those children
are then able to one, get toschool.
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And a lot of the kids he wassaying, When they graduate from
high school, which now they'redoing increasingly, the ones
that have these bikes, theyactually hand their bike down to
other kids.
So I just thought, gosh, Charlesis an amazing person.
He has another full-time job,but he just does this on the
side because he wants to make adifference.
And he's originally from SouthAfrica.
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And what a remarkable person heis.
And the other one that I reallyenjoyed and loved chatting with
was Lucy Bernard, who's the 2024Adventurer of the Year by
Australian Geographic and she'san Australian woman who's
walking the length of the earthand she's almost there so we
will have to get her back on tochat about what she's done but
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her journey is so incredible.
So she is walking from Argentinato Alaska, covering 30,000
kilometers across 14 countries.
And she's got a dog with her whoshe did a poll on to try and get
a name for it.
And the name that won wasWombat, which is so cute.
And she talks in this interview,which is episode 84, about
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how...
She came to be able to take adog with her and how it's been
so remarkable having the dogwith her.
And she's now started a filmproduction company to celebrate
the people she meets along theway.
And these remarkable communitiesthat she wants to highlight.
So not to get people to gothere, but just so that people
can learn to respect theseclosed off communities and their
cultures.
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And I love that.
Some of the stories she tells ofthe people she met and these
very remote communities is just,yeah, truly remarkable.
So what an incredible feat.
And yeah, so that one I think isalso definitely worth going back
and having a listen to.
So that's the end of our bestepisodes.
Please go back and have a lookat our earlier episodes and
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yeah, see what there's plenty tochoose from.
There's now 100 episodes.
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Music
SPEAKER_02 (12:32):
We thought it was only fitting if we asked each
other and answered the questionwe ask all of our guests.
So we have a question we askevery single guest at the end of
our episodes, and it is, what'sthe most bizarre thing that ever
happened on your travels?
And oh my God, we've had someincredible responses.
We thought we'd do it ourselves.
So let's kick off with you,Alastair.
SPEAKER_00 (12:53):
All right.
My family may kill me for thisone.
So we were on a family trip andwe had a layover in Hong Kong on
the way to London.
And we ended up stayingovernight due to a cancelled
flight, etc, etc.
You all know the drill.
And we were at this really cheaphotel and the dinner was buffet
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style and everything, nothingwas in English.
So no one had any idea what theywere eating.
My brother decided to just go inand go for it.
Whatever looked good, whateversmelled good, he was going to go
for it.
We tried to warn him, hey, justbe careful.
You've got to sit on a planefrom here to London.
You don't want your stomach tobe upset.
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Maybe ask before you load upyour plate.
And he went over to this sectionand started loading up this
stuff that looked like SwedenSour Sauce, so I'll forgive him.
And my mum, being the cautiousmum that she is, asked the
hostess, what is that dish?
And she said, oh, it's goosechunks in goose blood gravy.
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And mum said, we need to tellhim.
And I'm like, no, we don't.
He's not sitting near us on theplane.
Don't tell him.
So we went back and he's hoeinginto it, ate the whole thing.
I'm like, oh, was that good?
He said, yeah, it was the best.
It was so delicious.
I'm like, oh, that's reallygood.
We found out what it is if youwant to know.
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And then, yeah, we eventuallytold him.
And yeah, he told us that it wasthe worst thing he's ever eaten,
which is untrue because at thetime he loved it.
But it always helps to alwaysask your hostess if you can't
read the signs to pleaseinterpret if you can to know
what you're eating beforegetting on a very long flight.
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Because the flight didn't farewell is all I will say.
SPEAKER_01 (14:45):
And that was my next question.
How was he on the flight?
SPEAKER_00 (14:48):
I'm so grateful that he was not sitting next to
SPEAKER_01 (14:51):
me.
Oh
SPEAKER_00 (14:52):
my God.
What about you, Belle?
SPEAKER_01 (14:54):
Love this story.
I was up in the Kimberley atBullough Station, which is one
of the iconic Outback stations.
Yeah, mate.
And I was there doing a photoessay, and I was with another
journalist, Mark Muller fromOutback magazine.
And the owners at the time,Franz Renacher, is also a pilot.
So they have a helicopter.
So we took the doors off thehelicopter, strapped ourselves
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in, and then we were flyingaround the property, shooting it
on aerial, dropping down, havingpicnics and stuff.
It was all fantastic.
Had a great day.
Just before the sun sets, we'reflying back to the homestead.
Franz is in the front.
We're at the back.
No doors, winged in my hair, allof that sort of thing.
It was fantastic.
And then Franz says over theheadphones, we're just going to
pull the, sorry, I've just gotto pull the helicopter down.
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He dropped the helicopter intothis giant swamp.
They were like mosquitoes thesize of entire chickens flying
past.
And it had rushes above youreyes.
And Franz leans underneath theseat, the pilot's seat, pulls
out a shotgun and runs off.
And we're like, what'shappening?
I said, we'd better go and findout.
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And Mike goes, oh, okay.
So we run off after him.
We hear these shots.
Bang.
Franz comes back with hissmoking gun, shoves it back
under the seat, lifts thehelicopter back and flies a
couple of meters away.
And he's this giant black wildboar lying on the ground that
he's just shot.
Ties the legs of the boar to arope.
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Ties the rope.
to the runners of the helicopterand we fly back to that
homestead and this pig isswinging underneath like a
clock's pendulum.
And it's swinging.
It's like, oh my God, this is sobizarre.
As we get over the homestead, hecircles over this gigantic water
tank and from the surface of thetank, these two sets of eyes
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come up.
He cuts, the pig drops into thewater and the pig and the eyes
all disappear below the surfaceand he says to us, I promised
Marley I'd feed the crocs beforedinner.
See, two crocodiles that theywere shipping off to, I think,
San Diego Zoo because there werecrocodiles everywhere.
And doesn't get any moreAustralian than that.
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And they had to leave the crocs.
So that is my, I think that ismy most bizarre story.
travel experience.
And that's it.
SPEAKER_02 (17:09):
Tracy, tell us about yours.
Okay, so I had to think aboutthis.
I'm going to tell a little storyfrom back in my 20s.
So when I was in my 20s andtraxing around Europe, as you
do, I was on a train from Franceto Spain and we were just, we
were quite young and we werebackpackers and we had, we were
just sitting on this train andall of a sudden the train
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stopped and it wasn't a placewhere we thought we were
stopping and a train just stops.
And this group of guys justjumps on board and they're all
just wearing jeans and t-shirts.
And then we look down and theyall pull out these guns.
They're all carrying guns, butthey're just like in completely
casual clothing.
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And then, and they were quiteyoung.
They were like around our age.
And then they started walkingaround asking everyone for their
passports.
And we're like, oh my God, whatthe hell is happening here?
Everyone had to hand out theirpassports.
And then they took...
half the people on our carriageoff with them, and then the
train just carried on.
And we never found out whathappened, what it was about.
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It was just honestly, truly themost bizarre thing that had ever
happened in my entire life.
That would have to be one of themost bizarre things that has
ever happened to me.
SPEAKER_01 (18:21):
But I didn't like that.
I'm on a bus with passportcontrol.
But anyway, so there you go.
Souvenirs that you can bringback.
Did he jump on a bus holding agun?
Marry me! Marry me! Or I'll killyou! No, he didn't do that,
actually.
It was all important for oldguys on the Sinai Peninsula.
They kept pulling up with thesegiant guns.
Guns and travel are generallynon-compatible.
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But anyway, that's just myopinion.
So after all those bizarremoments, we are absolutely
inspired to hit the road againbecause we want to see more
guns, more crocodiles, more deadpigs.
Oh my gosh, I love travel somuch.
Let's go, let's go.
So I'm going to kick off firstwith my next trip because I
don't, yeah, because I don'tknow.
But one of the things I didn'tmention is I have a very strong
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connection to Egypt where I'velived and I brought back the
ultimate souvenir, also known asa husband.
So I am happy and I also want tocall him that.
He really does.
So I'm going back to Cairo.
Not ideal timing because it'sgoing to be very hot.
Also a little bit of slap andtickle going on around the area,
but we're going to zen breatheour way through it.
It was supposed to be theopening of the Grand Egyptian
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Museum, but of course theypostponed it because of said
slap and tickle happening withIran and Israel, but I'm sure
it's going to be fine.
So I'm going back to go back tothe pyramids because there's
been a lot of change happeningthere at the moment.
And I'm going to go and swim inthe Southern Mediterranean
because it is the clearest andmost beautiful water.
that you've ever seen in yourlife.
And it's astonishing.
It's Whitsundays on steroids.
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Gosh, they're not going to letme back in the country.
So that's my next traveladventure.
What about you, Alistair?
SPEAKER_00 (19:54):
I'm finally doing my dream trip.
So I've always wanted to go toBrazil and Colombia, and I'm
finally doing it in October.
So I'll be staying at the WHotel in Bogota for a week
before heading over to Brazil.
To go to Rio.
Unfortunately, I did miss thatfree Lady Gaga concert on the
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beach.
But I am very excited just togo.
So, yeah, I'm very excited.
Just started planning that.
Booked the hotel the other day.
And that means that I have to gonow.
Are
SPEAKER_01 (20:25):
you going to wait?
I want to see, like, in yourCarnivale sequence.
I want to see you shooting
SPEAKER_00 (20:30):
yourself.
Who knows?
I'm not planning much.
It's just going to be a go andsee kind of trip.
And I think this will be myfirst time flying economy in a
while.
So pray for me.
SPEAKER_01 (20:43):
No, not praying for you at all.
I always fly economy, but Icannot wait to have you on the
podcast.
We're going to get you on thepodcast and grill you about
everything that you've learned.
What an insane trip.
Kirsty, where are you going tonext?
I've got a couple of
SPEAKER_02 (20:55):
exciting just coming up this year.
So in a couple of weeks, aswe're recording this, actually,
as we go to air, it'll only beabout a week.
Before I leave, I'm going toCambodia.
Incredible property that I foundcalled Songsa, which is run by
this woman called MelitaKulimandis, who bought the
island for US$15,000 back in theearly 2000s.
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And she completely transformedthis island from a desolate
place.
with depleted marine life intoCambodia's second marine
protected sanctuary.
And it's now this incredible,lush, beautiful, incredible
property.
And I'm also staying in SiemReap at this incredible
five-star Avani property calledFCC Angkor Bay Avani.
(21:40):
And I absolutely cannot wait togo there.
That is a property that youmight have heard us talking
about earlier, actually, Belleand I, and you will hear all
about that when I get back.
And then later in the year, inNovember, I'm going on a Viking
cruise, which I'm so excitedabout.
We are cruising from Athens inGreece up to Venice.
And so visiting Croatia andMontenegro along the way.
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And I am super excited aboutthat because Viking do the most
incredible cruises and have themost beautiful Scandi design.
beautiful luxury ship.
So I can't wait to jump on boardthat.
So you'll be hearing about allthree of us and our incredible
adventures in coming episodes.
So make sure that you continuelistening with us and hang in
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there with us and see what we'reall doing.
So next up, we have someexciting news.
SPEAKER_01 (22:29):
Oh, what you've been waiting for, my friends, our
special prize to mark this 100thepisode.
We have partnered with Avani.
to give away.
So Khao Lak is a beachsideresort in southern Thailand,
best to fly into Phuket and it'sa one-hour drive north of the
airport.
It is also close to the divesites of the Similan Islands and
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you can also visit Phang NgaBay.
So I think James Bond movies,they've got rock climbing sites
around this area and The Avaniexcursions include a gentle
bamboo rafting through the Thaijungles, surfing and Thai
cooking classes.
And the resort's facilitiesinclude kids' clubs and, because
of course this is Thailand, adivine spa.
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And so you will get a dailybreakfast and dinner, round-trip
airport transfers, and also,love this, a one-time...
Muay Thai boxing class for twopeople.
If you want to sort yourdifferences out.
Perfect for honeymooners, forpeople who have been married for
20 years, for friends who havegot certain grievances that they
never spoke about in public.
It's so much fun.
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What an amazing prize of fournights in paradise.
So I'm so excited.
I want to go.
SPEAKER_00 (23:39):
Right.
You do.
But that is such an amazingprize.
How can listeners enter,Kirstie?
SPEAKER_02 (23:46):
So to enter, who doesn't want a tropical holiday?
And particularly Thailand.
Thailand, I have to say, is oneof my most favorite places to
go.
I've been multiple times and ohmy God, I just adore it.
The food, the people, it's soeasy to get around and
incredible properties.
So this property is one that youdo not want to miss.
So to enter, you've got to jumpon over to our Instagram, which
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is theworldawaits.
And also jump onto Avani Hotels.
So Instagram, follow AvaniHotels and also follow The World
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And like our post on The WorldAwaits Instagram about the
competition and then tag afriend.
The person, tag the person thatyou want to take to Thailand.
And we will be having a draw,which we'll be announcing in
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September.
coming weeks.
Yeah, we're going to give peoplea little bit of time to get
their entries in, but make surethat you tag those friends and
don't forget to like both thosepages and also, yeah, like the
competition page.
And you will be in the draw towin this incredible prize of
four nights in this beautifultropical Thailand resort.
SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
Thank you to all of our listeners.
And if you do enjoy our podcast,please give us a rating and
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