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In this episode of The World Class Leaders Show, host Andrea Petrone sits down with Gary Hamel, a legendary voice in modern management. They explore how leadership must evolve to keep up with today’s fast-changing world. Gary breaks down why many companies are stuck in outdated systems and what needs to change to create organizations that are quicker, bolder, and more people-driven.

Gary Hamel has been shaping the way the world thinks about strategy and innovation for decades. He’s a Visiting Professor and Faculty Member at London Business School and is the former Chairman of Strategos, a firm that helped companies rethink their strategy from the ground up. He’s the author of influential books like Humanocracy and The Future of Management.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
  • Why the classic “hero CEO” model doesn’t fit today’s challenges.
  • How companies can build real leadership at every level, not just at the top.
  • The hidden costs of bureaucracy and how to break free from it.
  • What it takes to create a culture of experimentation and continuous learning.
  • Why real change starts by questioning long-standing assumptions.
Episode Highlights:

[00:00] - Teaser & Introduction of Gary Hamel [02:51] - What it really means to be a CEO today [06:01] - CEOs as builders, not just decision-makers [06:52] - Why do many CEOs fall into short-term thinking? [11:49] - The pressure and complexity of leading today [20:14] - Preparing for a tougher, more uncertain future [23:03] - How old management models are holding companies back [32:00] - What modern leadership really looks like [37:16] - Why change needs small experiments, not big rollouts [39:58] - How to build support for real transformation [47:17] - Where to connect with Gary Hamel

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