WrestleMagic: Royal Rumble Fallout

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
All right, everybody to night's episode of Wrestling Magic.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
We're just going to talk about what happened at the
Royal Rumble because wrestling right now, and like my usual
joining me tonight is going to be the gardner Michael Gross,
hey man, how.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
You doing great?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
How are you doing over there in the UK?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Not too bad?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's been interesting over here, to say the least. Don't
give it that much.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
How cold is it over there right now?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I just went for a run not too long ago,
and it was about forty ish degrees.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's not terrible, not too bad. What about where you're at?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
You know? Two days ago it was seventy degrees in
Louisville and today it's thirty degrees in Louisville. So my
skin is taking a beating. My nose runs one day
and then I swept the next. I don't get it here, man,
But I gotta ask you, because you said you're taking
a run. Don't you have something coming up? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, you know, just my typical racing stuff. I try
to keep the locations private for safety reasons. But yeah,
I'm gonna be doing another marathon sometime soon, so it
should be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I'm really excited. For it.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
It should be in the next couple of weeks. Well,
how was how was the last marathon that you did?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Last actual marathon I did was back in Okanawa a
little over a year ago. It was amazing and I
kind of miss it that. People were incredible. They were
like so many people in the crowd, just on the
sides of this entire race, like on the sides with
like these little jello cups they're handing out to everybody.
And there were people like this light acane spray. I
remember run up to them and like just point to

(01:50):
whatever body part was hurting. They would get in there
and like spray the crap out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
And he would just go numb.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
And I remember one guy he got to my knee
really well, like he got into every little crease and
everything through my pants.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I was like, man, I don't know who this dude is.
He must have been a doctor. I don't know how
you did that that well. And I just kept going.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I was like, man, these guys are good. They really
know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
But yeah, what's going on with you, dude?

Speaker 4 (02:11):
That was an Okinawa, yeah, back and ok Oh my gosh,
So did you eat a lot of authentic Japanese food
while you were there in ok.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I mean a friend of mine who uh I got
to see out there, and I'm really happy that I did.
He took me out to uh Cocasai, which is like
the big touristy place, and I remember I told him
I wanted to have ramen and.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
He saw me.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
He's like, Okay, we're not going to go to any
of these main big places here. I want you to
pick a dark alleyway. We're gonna walk down there. There's
gonna be a random red light that says ram and
above a door that's gonna have the best ramen.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Of your life.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Or we're just walking along. I find a random dark
alley way, I'm like, all right, this is the one.
He's like, okay, we just walked down there. He was
dead right. I still couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
That's really awesome. Well, today we're going to talk about
our reactions to the Royal Room. Okay, and you and
I both watched it. We both have our own opinions
on it. I think we have some shared opinions. I mean,
obviously you're my nephew, so everybody knows that mystery is over.
And also something I want to say is thank you

(03:17):
for all the work that you've done as far as
your interviews and everybody that you and Scully have looked
up a lot of people don't know this, but to
get these interviews with retired wrestlers, King, Scully and Maverick
have looked up these people, researched these people, and taken
their own hard time to get these people on the show.
And I can be present for some of these interviews.

(03:38):
I can't be present for some of these interviews. We
all have a work life, we all have a regular life,
and I just want to personally thank you for all
the content that you've been going out of your way
to create in every contact that Scully has found, because
it is really amazing to me how much of the
Wrestle Magic team are trying to create and contribute to
wwepodcast dot com. And you know, I know Rocky'll be

(04:00):
back in a little while, and you know Memphis Mark
has taking a sabbatical, but he's going to be doing
some work with me soon as far as some show
ideas that he and I have had. Creating content is
not very easy, folks, and especially doing interviews with famous
retired wrestlers is very very important to how you format,

(04:23):
how you talk to them, how you ask them questions.
Like for instance, when you talked to Raven, one of
the precursors for when we got him on the show
was he didn't want to be asked the same old questions.
So that was that was really amazing that you and
I had worked but mostly you on questions for Raven
to come up with ideas and things for him to

(04:45):
actually think about. So, you know, I just want to
give like a big hats off to you and everybody
you know, should really really appreciate the fact that you
and Skully have done a lot of work as far
as finding these people. You've done a lot of work
as far as interviewing these peop people, and you know,
I just it amazes me. I think that you deserve
a little break for a while, and so why don't

(05:08):
you take a little break? You know?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I uh, man, I really appreciate that. And I
know Scully will appreciate that too. You know, he's uh,
he's kind of stayed on the outside. He kind of
feels weird about jumping in with some of these guys.
Think he's a little shy honestly, but honestly great person
and I'm really proud of him for helping me out
with that as well.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
And we both help each other find.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Some of these guys, and it's like, hey, what do
you think about trying to get this dude, and like
trying to figure out every way that we can contact
some of these guys, and it can be a real
pain and sometimes the research it can be insane, looking
up every little thing that we can to find something
that nobody's really asked about before, or try to find
something that would be interesting to ask about. It really,
uh means a lot for you to say that about.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
It, But yeah, you know, in ways, you're you're you're
my hero. Okay, my nephew is my hero. So it's you.
You followed in your uncle's steps as far as loving wrestling,
and you're living in a Mason life. You're living in
a foreign country, you're defending the country. You fix airplanes,

(06:10):
you fix aircraft. I mean, you're doing something that is
most of service that some of the people who listen
to the show will never understand or have the opportunity
to do so. For that, I applaud you you're my hero.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Thanks man, and I do think I'll take you up
on that break here soon, probably take a couple of
weeks off just to relax, decompress, not think about everything
all at once instead of, you know, dealing with work
life and this at the same time and just kind
of doing a round robin every day. It kind of
felt like, for a little bit, just I get this
done today, get that done. Am I stepping into the

(06:46):
next role that I need to And it could be
a little backbreaking at times, but honestly, it felt worth it,
and it's very rewarding now that a lot of it
is over. But I don't want to keep talking about
this too much.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Guys. Sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
A little bit of a side conversation there, But we're
gonna get into the royal rumble.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
So let's get into it.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Man. Let's give the people what they're paying or not
paying to hear either way. I don't blame you guys
for that. So let's start off with the woman's royal rumble.
So what are your thoughts on it?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Man?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Going into it?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean, everybody knew Charlotte was coming back. That was
a worse kept secret than Penta coming in so I
kind of felt that she was gonna win it like
this seriously felt like Vince was talking into Triple H's ear.
As far as booking this, think, honestly, the person I
wanted to see when it was Selena Vega. I think

(07:40):
that she's incredibly talented. She's incredible, I mean, just an incredible,
incredible manager and wrestler and performer. And I just don't
see why they didn't give her a shot because at
this point, Player's done it all. Does she really need
to match her dad with sixteen world championships? Come on on,

(08:01):
we don't need that. Also, some thoughts I had from
it real quick is, uh, Piper Nivin, I'm not a
fan of the whole wrestling talk show thing. I mean
it works maybe one segment, but not multiple segments in

(08:22):
the night, and they kind of dumbed it down. But
wouldn't it be awesome if Piper Nevin brought back Piper's Pit?
No one has How has nobody thought of this yet?
How has nobody said that's a great idea, Piper Kniven
Piper's Pit. Now, maybe Roddy Piper's family or a state

(08:43):
won't allow that because it was trademarked or something to
that degree. However, I think that would be really awesome
for her and that could boost her career quite a bit. Yeah,
I can say that's that's just an idea. But anyway,
as I was watching it, I saw a lot of sorry, folks,
I'm changing up my garbage right now. I saw a

(09:05):
lot of really talented women go over that top rope
and the predictability of Charlotte. It just it didn't do
anything for me. And I'm a big Charlotte fan, but
oh geez, you know, I just don't get why we
have to put her over and have her headline in
WrestleMania one more time when she's had so much times

(09:28):
she's been in the spotlight. We get that she's a
top star. It's just very very sketched me. The other
people I would have put over in this lived Morgan,
because she's worked her tail off and it's a beautiful
tale to get where she is. And I really appreciate
that Zoe Stark just because I think that they cooled

(09:49):
their engines on her for no good reason. And I
think Zoe Stark could have been something for WrestleMania and
maybe uh Raquel Robergos. So, you know, Jordan Grace, it's
too early. It's too early, and I think it would
be a slap in the face to everyone in the
woman's division for Jordan Grace to take it right away.

(10:11):
I'm a big fan, a huge fan of first However,
I'm not a fan of someone taking spotlight right away.
So I think that they did the right thing with
her just sticking around, having some eliminations things like that.
I think that the real money is going to be
Jordan Grace against being Uncle beell Air. Just two powerhouses going.

(10:33):
It's like a female hoss mash match. I should say,
Naya Jacks, what were your thoughts on Nia Jackson this one?

Speaker 2 (10:46):
So I'm really not Anyjacks fan. I'm very open about that,
and you know, I feel like the shouldn't be a problem.
If anybody disagrees that, I really don't care. That's just
my opinion. I'm not really a fan of her, but
I do think that if she were to have won
the match, at least this is kind of understandable for
storyline purposes, like, Okay, she's pursuing the title that she

(11:08):
just lost. Cool, this makes some sense. It would align
kind of well because now she gets that chance to
go after Tiffany for the title again. But realistically, I
don't know. I've never been impressed with Nia Jack's performances.
She can be a heel, but that's just because I
already don't like her. That's kind of a problem. It's

(11:30):
not even like heel heat. It's go away heat to me.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
So I really am not a fan of hers.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
And her performance was okay. I didn't think her eliminating
like half of the rumble was really necessary.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
In that one move. I thought it was just kind
of not there. That's not how that should have went.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
But otherwise, I will say, there's a lot of names
that I feel like I would have been okay with
winning the Women's Royal Rumble, but there's a lot of
names that I would not have okay with honestly. So
first off, the Big Veterans Returns, we had Tris Stratus. Now,
I wouldn't have wanted her to win, just because, well,

(12:09):
let's face it, she's well past her prime and her
wrestling days are kind of behind her. I think it's
time for her to just keep putting the spot on
it and others, and that's what she did, and I'm
very happy with that. But then you have Nicki Bella
coming out. I'm like, who asked for this?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
No? But when? When? When was Nicki Bella really a wrestler?
And I know everybody's gonna be like eight it was
between two thousand. No, she was guarded, she was pants,
she was terrible in the rain. Everybody knows that she
was made fun of her, how many botches she would make,
and how badly scripted and how she would like say
what she was gonna do.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I mean, everybody knows this, and so somebody out there
is gonna say, oh, it's a Hall of Famer. Okay,
so it is Drew Carey. Is he a great wrestler?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, exactly, Pete Rose, I mean, come on, it's so silly,
like let's let's not like bathe ourselves and oh they're
a Hall of Famer this or that. The other fact
is that was like it was leaked that she might
be back. But did anybody care because my answers, no,

(13:10):
she got a pop because they just wanted to see
her wiggler booty and walk to the ring and do
two or three really bad moves and then just get
thrown over. Also, though, what did you think of Stephanie
the coour? I think I'm saying that right here.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I yeah, how exactly to say her name? I'm not
gonna lie. I I probably watched it too, but I
think she's a very good performer.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
This match, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
It didn't really feel like you saw a whole lot
of her highlighted, so I can't really say, but I've
seen her work prior to this, and I think that
she is a great performer this match. Honestly, well, this
is how I feel about most larger numbered contestant matches
like this. I feel like it puts a spotlight on
somebody for like five seconds, and then it pulls to
somebody else. So I feel like everybody pretty much gets

(13:57):
a very slim look at their talent. You're not gonna
see all that much out of it. But overall, it's
not necessarily a bad thing. It's just another one of
those gimmicks to get people in seats, and it's okay,
there's nothing wrong with that. I actually enjoyed most of
this women's match, except for as soon as that number
thirty hit and here comes Nicki Bell.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's like, come on, man, seriously.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
But the overall match wasn't bad necessarily, I will say
it's relatively good, but I feel like it could have
been a lot of others that should have won. I
don't hate Charlot Flair by any means. I think she's
very talented, but at the same time, I feel that
the Undertaker was extremely talented, but he was not a

(14:36):
champion every five seconds. Also, the fact that she has
fourteen championships already, does she really need another one right now?
I think she should be, you know, letting someone else
take the spotlight right now. It seems a little ridiculous
that she's already at fourteen and how many years she
been wrestling. It's nowhere near her father's legacy. It's just
kind of rushed. It feels like, and I get it.
They're probably trying to do it because it's like, Okay,

(14:58):
it seems like women wrestlers don't really like last as
long career wise as men do. So maybe that was
their thinking, was like, Okay, we're gonna try to rush
it so that she can beat his record. But it's
not going that well with the fans. A lot of
fans are like, Okay, we get it, you're the best
blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Who cares.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I think even Alexa Bliss cut a promo want Her
like that a long time ago, and it was pretty funny.
But the point being, I just don't think who was
necessarily right instantly come back, instantly win. Sometimes it works,
but that's when the crowd's already really behind you. And
if you guys check, he got pretty badly ratioed on
YouTube for who is actually liking and disliking this one?

(15:35):
It's not very much a great reviews favor so it
is what it is. I don't hate this, but I
will say I'm not.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Really for Charlotte winning.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I think it could have went to a lot of
other stars who could have used this push.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
And really, even if it's.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Just for that WrestleMania moment to get there, push a
little bit higher and they still lose the match, it's
still okay. You just had a you know, title match Mania.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Who cares.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
There's a lot of names that could have been in there.
I mean, honestly, I would have been okay with seeing
Bailey in there. I would have even been okay with
seeing Nia Jacks win it. And I'm not a fan
of hers. That's kind of sad, but it is what
it is. What it at least made some storyline sense,
and I would have said, okay, fair enough, hands off.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Well looking looking over the participants, some people that I
thought would be like I said, I thought that, you know,
Jordan Grace, it would it was too early. Raquel Rodriguez
would have been fun. Not Piper Kniven. I think she's
she's great and she's an entertainer, but her time is
about a year from now, a year from now, and

(16:39):
they can build a storyline around her. I think that
she'll have something. Shanna Basler, how about Shanna Basler, the
woman that retired round to Rousey, you know from from WWE,
that is a great winner. Zelena Vega. Zelena Vega to
me is still the one that I really want to see.
And I also want to say a welcome back to

(16:59):
elect A Bliss because I'm a big fan of a
Lexa Bliss. For as small and petite as she is,
she is an amazing performer. And if people don't remember,
you know her her run at the top of the
car when she was the Woman's Champion, especially when she
was going against Rowsy and she e vicerated Ronda Rowsey.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
On the MIC.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
I mean a vicerated her with promos. I don't see
how you couldn't say, okay, she could be the top.
But so out of this, who do you think look
the strongest? Or who do you think look the weakest?
Or you know, look Maxine dupri Do I think she'll
ever do anything?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
No?

Speaker 3 (17:42):
You know, Bailey shyes, she should have done something, but
Basler obviously should have done something. Natalia Natalia is way
past her prime and she's so good though, but she
enhances so much talent. And I'm not saying she's an
enhancement talent. She just anybody she's in the ring with,
she makes that much better. She was trained by to Hearts.
They know how to train people, so, you know, but

(18:06):
you have to look at realistically, who's gonna win this,
who's not gonna win this? Who belongs in this? Who
does not belong in this? And everybody knew Jordan Grace
was going to be there. It was just a matter
of time. And as far as she goes like that
girl is, she's a year away, just like Piper Niven is.
I think that the two of them could write a

(18:26):
great story one year out and have like one of
the greatest female matches ever. I know I sound crazy
when I say this, but I really do because Jordan
Grace is strong as hell and Piper Niven, for her size,
is agile as hell, and I think that Piper has
a lot more to offer than people think. So but

(18:48):
you know, I'm looking at even Sonya Deville could have
done something more in this. This is just it makes
no sense to put it on Charlotte again. So that's
how I feel about that, and that's it was a
great female royal rumble, but it was a really bad result.

(19:08):
It makes no sense just to keep going to the
same well. If the well is dry, you dig a
new hole, right.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, And honestly, I kind of felt like I am
a fan of Roxane Perez. I honestly feel like she
could have been a okay choice for it.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I would have been fully supporting that.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
There's some of these talents where I'm thinking, okay, still
NXT not quite there yet. Like you said, Jordan Grace,
I feel like, yeah, I'd say about a year out,
maybe even a little bit less time, but I'm not
going to put it past like seven eight months I
think would be reasonable to become potential champion, but not
anything than that, just because I know that she is talented.

(19:50):
She was in TNA for years and she's one of
those people that I could watch most of her matches
and be okay with. I mean, I kind of felt
bad for in TNA. Where for to end before she left.
All of a sudden, Tae brings back Tessa blanchert and
rumor has it she did not want to work with Tessa.
It kind of shows maybe there's a little bit of
a heat there.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
But you know, I have no sources on that.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Besides what we read that you know there's tension that
she did not want to work with her.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I have no sources to site really with that.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
But still being said, I do think that both have
a shot there between rox and Emperez and Jordan Grace.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
But it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Charlotte Flair got it, you know what. We'll see where
it goes. She even made her decision yet.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
For who she wants to face, No, I would think so.
I mean, I didn't have a chance to watch raw
last night. I'm a busy man. We're all busy men,
so and ladies out there by the way, We're not discriminating,
but you know, I also look at like the people
who like Naomi, why just why, I get it that

(20:55):
you're married to one of the Smoans and they love
the Smoans, so but one of the Oos, I believe.
But I don't want to see Naomi like competing in
a WWE ring if it's gonna be the so called
hierarchy of professional wrestling, Like Naomi does nothing for me.
I people like she's been there forever. Bob Holly was

(21:19):
in WWE forever and he never wore the men's championship,
and I believe Naomi has. And it's just like she
still does Diva era moves that they call it a
hip check, but it was the rear end and it just,
you know, I look at that. I look at Canvas

(21:40):
Loray like she's not there on that tier yet she
needs to spend some time down to next t I
like her as a performer and as an appearance, However,
I don't like her as a wrestling performer. Bfab. I mean,
she had no chance. Come on, I still think Chelsea
Green should have had a chance. But that's how I

(22:03):
feel about that.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, I agree there, I mean, I kind of feel
like Naomi is it's almost like the last of the
Diva's era before her, I want to say, it was
Alicia Fox and then Naomi's like the last one really
raining at this point. That's like still doing the diva
moves and everything. And then when they brought back Eva
Marie for like what a month or two, then it

(22:25):
was like, oh great, here we go again.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
But he got Nikki Bella.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
I mean she's not so you know what I mean,
I know, I know, just being facetious, that's fair. I mean,
we can always have fun with that. But anyways, so
we could just go ahead and table that for now.
So actually, I want to give one quick shout out
because I got into the discord for everybody that's on
the Patreon and everything, and honestly, that was a really

(22:54):
fun time. Everybody that was in there during this whole event.
We were all having a lot of fun just talking
during this and you know, I appreciate all you guys.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
So yeah, shout out to everybody that was in the discord.
But anyway, so the next match was WWE Tag Team
Championship between MotorCity machine Guns and DIY and man, I've
been a Motor City Machine Guns fan since probably like
two thousand and seven. They are one of those teams
that I could watch at almost any point and I'm
gonna be impressed this match.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
It was okay.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'm not really a fan of interference finishes at almost
any point. I understand for storylines it does help drive
certain things, but there's gonna be that part of me
that's like, this's the MotorCity Machine Guns. I'm nostalgic with them.
I don't like seeing them lose that much, but dy not.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
A bad team. I kind of like them.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I think that they're good, but it's gonna be that
nostalgic feeling.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm gonna have that bias from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I'm not gonna lie I have a bias towards MotorCity
Machine Guns because they are kind of half of what
kept me interested in wrestling at one point. Because I
must say, it was like around two thousand and eight,
two nine, and where are starting to get bored of it?
Switch channel to TNA and I'm seeing Jayleethal doing springboards
in the ring, hitting the ropes and coming back. I'm
seeing MORTC Machine Guns doing suicide dives. I got back

(24:10):
into it because of these guys, so kind of have
them to thank for sitting in this seat and making
this podcast.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Now with you there, Michael, So what'd you think of
the match man.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Too much Hot Potato with the tag titles? First of all,
MotorCity wins the tag titles on their very first day
in the company, which cool. It's a great way to
blow the roof off the place. However, for them to
lose the titles almost immediately, what weeks?

Speaker 1 (24:39):
A month?

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Two months? Maybe a month? It Yeah, and it didn't
even feel like two months because we're used to episodic TV.
We all felt like it was just a week. It
really felt like a week. So this is it made
sense to keep the titles on DIY, to keep them more,

(25:01):
to keep the titles more important and prevalent. However, I mean,
it was just I love the machine guns. I love
MotorCity machine guns. They are just amazing, amazing tag team.
And all the hype they did for them, all the
the pre recorded everything that they did to you know,

(25:22):
make sure that you knew that the machine guns were
coming once again, another not well kept secret. I just
didn't understand why they had to drop the titles, and
then now they have to go for the titles again,
but they lose to a team. Look, I've got pictures
with Di I Y. I've met those guys. They're very,

(25:42):
very nice and I don't know if I've ever shown
you that, but pictures of me and Johnny and tomasco Champ.
I think, great guys. I don't understand why that they're
they're making this program as prevalent as it is with
the fact of it would have been more if the

(26:03):
machine Guns lost it on of three to DIY tonight
or when it happened, as opposed to them trying to
get it back. So what's your thoughts on that psychology?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean, it makes a lot of sense, and you know,
now that I think about it, I'm starting to think
maybe they want to try to push for Areway Tag match.
Maybe they're trying to kind of recreate that old school
parties Dudley's and Christian and Edge kind of Trio tag
match sort of thing. Well not Trio's tag but you
know what I mean, three different tag teams at the

(26:36):
same time. So maybe there's a chance that they're trying
to push for that. I could see them trying maybe
not for like a TLC sort of match again. But
maybe they're trying to really open up the tag division
a little bit more with this. I don't know, but
I do kind of agree with you. They should have
done it differently, and yeah, losing the titles to them

(26:56):
that way would have made a little bit more sense.
And I'm just not a fan of interfering. Uh finishes
when it comes down to tag matches, especially unless it's
like their manager or something. Then it kind of makes sense.
I'm okay with that. That's what a manager should be doing.
Your tag team partner should be the one that's jumping
in and breaking up the pins and everything.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's how it should be.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
No matter what, I don't like seeing anybody else do
any kind of interference during a tag mag It kind
of ruins it for me, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
What I mean.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
No, I get you on that, you know. And so
as far as the street profits, but let's talk about that.
What First of all, Dawkins is in great shape. He's
in probably the best shape I've ever seen him in
his life.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh agreed, He's definitely uh looks like he slimmed down
a little bit, and I'm kind of impressed, honestly.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
And everybody talks about like, you know, Montes Ford's a
future world champion. I get news for you. He's not.
He's not, you know. And they said the same thing
about Edgy's too skinny. But no, Dawkins, they're excuse me,
Ford is not going to be a future world champion.
I don't see it now. I could be wrong because
we got to look at our main event tonight, but

(28:09):
brass tacks and baseball bats. When it comes down to it,
Ford is a like one trick pony. He was the
better of the two. He was the Shawn Michaels versus
Dawkins as the Marty Jeanetty. And I hate to say
that because Dawkins, if you're listening, I do think that
you're a very talented person, and I really think that
you getting yourself into great shape means a lot. But
the fact is, if you've been saddled with this tag

(28:29):
team gimmick this long and they haven't done a split up,
you're gonna be there for life. It's just foregone. You're
going to be there for life. So but with their
interference and that being like what happened and then the
beat down at the end, what was your feeling about
the beat down at the end.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
It just wasn't really necessary at least I didn't feel
like it was.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
And I'm just not a fan of it. I am.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I don't really know where to put my feelings for it,
because it's like it just felt strange to watch, I
mean for me anyways, I'm not so I like the
Street Profits to an extent, but just the way that
the match went, I.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Just didn't really understand it. What about you men?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Basically the same way like my What killed me with
the Street Profits years ago was the fact that the
team was overexposed. And this is when the whole like,
you know, montes Ford is going to be the next
WWE champion and everything else, and he does these crazy
jumps and everything else. Honestly, and I hate to say this, folks,
he was a Portman's version of ar Fox. And if

(29:42):
you don't know who ar Fox is, he is on
AW and he does some crazy stuff too. I mean,
it's just it is what it is, okay, And they
mimicked that when they put that into montes Ford. Now
I'm not saying he's not a terrific athlete or he's
not a terrific performer. I just think that he's very
overrated and for them to bank on that for so long,

(30:04):
thinking that, you know, Ford was just going to be
this guy that was going to be so innovative. They
screwed up on that, and the fact that you know
they put they overexposed Bianca too. That's why she's played
hot Potato with the belt quite a few times. She
always looks like gold when she comes out of it.
But let's be honest here. You know, you never say,

(30:25):
oh my god, that Bianca bel air match, Oh my god,
did you ever see that? It's just it's her presence
and her charisma as opposed to an actual incredible match.
So that's what I have with that. But the point is,
I just wish it's two out of three so you

(30:47):
don't need interference. Yeah, I mean, I hate to say
they could use the old good you know, Lucky roll
up the Move of Doom and its Dangerous movie WWE exactly.
So that's where I am with that. You know, I'm
rambling a little bit, but I'm just trying to be
honest on how I feel. So, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
So let's move on to the next one, because I
don't know, I feel like that match just doesn't really
have anything else to be said about it. But so
the next match being the undisputed WWE Championship, a ladder match,
ah Man Cody Roads versus Kevin owens Man. Is it
me or did they feel like did this feel like
they were trying to be too extreme to an extent?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Oh? Absolutely absolutely, And while it was cool and it
was fun, and yeah, they tried to be a little
too extreme. Kevin got split open pretty bad. That was
just insane. And did you notice, and this is my
most happy moment of this whole thing, they never did

(31:53):
the slow ladder crawl.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
So I noticed there was no slow ladder crawl, but
I noticed that Cody Roads at the very end was
on top of the ladder for a long time before
he actually pulled the belt down.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah. I don't know what that was all about. I
really don't, but you know, I just appreciate the fact
that they didn't insult our intelligence with the slow ladder crawl, Like, oh,
I'm so fatigued, but I just gave a guy like
five body slams and two backbreakers. You know, it's like
what And I just found it really really amazing that

(32:27):
they didn't do the slow ladder crawl. They found ways
around it. I love the fact that they broke out
the baby ladder. What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
The baby ladder?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh my god, that was like that was actually the
best parton my I think, and just the fact that
they made use of one as well, Like there's no
way it could possibly be used to actually climb up
for that, so they found a way, and you know what,
it was better than.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
MLW's a barbed wire ladder. I'll give it that.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
But yeah about that. The only time that I've ever
seen a believable slow climb was Jeff Hardy versus Under
Or two thousand and two. But that's because Jeff Hardy
was taking such a beating the whole match, so then
him like crawling up the ladder, he.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Just looked beat up. So it made sense.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
So I think that that was the double turn. That's
my favorite face face, the heel turn.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, exactly, And it made sense like, Okay, a small
guy just got his butt kicked, he's got a second
to climb the ladder. Yeah he doesn't look too good.
He's really going slow up it. It makes sense there,
But yeah, I'm kind of glad that they really did
well with this match and it was good.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
But to an extent, it felt.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Like they were trying too hard to be extreme, and
to an extent that can be great. In other ways,
it can be absolutely terrible. I mean a lot of
people made fun of AW for that when they did
certain things. But you know, I don't want to be
that kind of guy to say, oh, well, wwe can
do it, but AW can't. It's kind of hypocritical to
be that way, and I hate that. But I did

(33:53):
think they did well certain things and it was enjoyable.
They really tried their best on this, and I'll give
him credit. I think Kevin owns he was a great performer.
I want to see him as a world champion at
some point, but I don't know if now was the time.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
To be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Man, it's definitely not the time for him. I mean,
they got to cool him off for a little bit.
He's been the champion a few times, so obviously, you know,
putting a belt on him doesn't really mean that much
at this point. I hate to say it like that,
but to be a performer, to do what he does
every night insanely, I mean I really thought he was

(34:26):
dead after that Alabama slam. I really thought he was
dead at the end, and I was. And then when
they picked him up, even Cody did the hand squeeze
if you if you guys rewatch, there's the hand squeeze,
which it means I'm okay, and it's a it's a
kfa thing that people do, and the referees were doing it.
I mean, they had all kinds of people out there.
They thought he was dead, and I really thought his

(34:48):
neck is broken, like I thought he was dead, and then,
you know, to continue the match. I don't know the
pain he went through, but I don't want to. I
don't want to feel that kind of pain. So for
the effort, I give an A. For execution, I give
it a B be minus because it was too much extreme. Yeah. So,

(35:14):
and how do you have a street fight when you're
not in the street, right, I mean, they could have
pre taped this and had it take place outside, and
you know, we could we could have got just we
could have had just as great of any kind of

(35:36):
result that we did.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
So I kind of agree and disagree on that one,
because then that takes away from everybody that's in the
stadium actually watching the show. I would not want to
watch that on a big screen in front of me
if it was pre taped that I would not be
a fan of that. Just my opinion personally, But fair enough,
we can disagree on that kind of stuff, and that's
kind of what's nice about being on these kind of shows. Yeah, definitely,

(36:03):
but yeah, so Kevin Owen's very talented. And uh, I'll
be honest. The first time that I ever saw Cody
Rhodes really do anything extreme was when he was in
Ring of Honor and I remember watching it was Matt
Tavan versus Cody Rhoads matches of the Craft twenty eighteen.
First show I ever went to everybody, So while we
were there, it was me and your brother Tim were
in Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
While we're watching the show.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
It was a first blood match Matt Tavan Cody Rhodes
for I want to say, it was the TV title
or something, And I remember the finish actually was entertaining
and I really liked watching it just because they did
all this extreme stuff. But then the ending was Matt
Taven came running at Cody Rhods with the belt, Cody
Roads punches the belt goes down. He's like holding his
hand and like in a ball for a second, and

(36:48):
then you can tell he's doing something to his hands,
like you know, KFA show stuff.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
You kind of look away from.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
It just to keep the disbelief.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Alive or whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
He gets up, he starts punching, even in the face,
and then the ref picks up his hand. Everybody thinks
Cody won, and then then announcer says winner of this match,
Matt Taban.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Then you see.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Cody's hand is bleeding. It was pretty cool finish, I thought.
So that was the first time I ever saw Cody
do something extreme, and this was cool.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
But just not the same level. I thought this was
too far.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Honestly, in a few ways, I thought it was a
little too dangerous for them.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
But you know what a foreffort.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I do think B minus for execution, though I do
agree with that one hundred even though the baby left. Yeah,
sometimes a little less is more, and that this is
a case where a little less is more exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
So you know, they made their point. If this feud
keeps going, when you know, maybe this is I think
this is their way of giving Kevin Owens some time
off the family and whatever else, maybe needs a surgery, whatever.
But the point is if if he is really needing

(37:57):
time off, like there's there was, this could have been
like five minutes sooner. This match could have been shaped
five minutes off and you didn't have to have as
many high spots. And like I said that Alabama slam,
I mean that made me sick. And I'm not like,
how do I put it. I'm not trying to talk

(38:18):
trash about it. Just the way his head hit, I
really thought he had broken his neck and died, and
I was just like, wow, I'm watching an unfortunate manslaughter
on TV.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
So yeah, man, I hear you.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
And there's nothing wrong with being concerned with your fellow
man saying it made you sick. I understand you don't
mean it like in a bad way. You mean it like, hey,
I was concerned at that point for that dude. He
it looked like absolutely broke something. That's not nothing negative
about that. But anyways, we can table that one as well.
So last match of the night, the thirty man Royal
Rumble match.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Now, before we.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Get too into it, I do want to say it
felt too predetermined for something that's supposed to be random
people coming out one at a time. And I understand
the whole thing is predetermined. I get it, but like
you start off with two lucidors, specifically, when they keep
comparing them every week, and then towards the end you
have all these huge name stars all at.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
The same time. It feels like, isn't this supposed to.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Be like a drawing sort of thing where they go
and they get a number handed to them, like oh, yeah,
you know, doing the bingo thing or whatever with all
the balls inside the cage, and then it rolls out
and then it's like, oh, I'm number twenty eight or whatever. No,
this felt very, very too exact and two put together.

(39:38):
And it's not a huge problem to me, but it
is kind of annoying, you know, it's not it just
doesn't feel random enough to an extent. And I hate
to say it that way, but it just felt so overproduced.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
What did you think, Oh, way overproduced, And for everybody's
expectations going into this and all the rumors of who
might be coming back, who might be the surprise entrance,
it was it fizzled. It fizzled out really really hard.
I mean, I don't know who I show speed is.
But I'm also fifty years old, so you know, for

(40:13):
him to go out that that was stupid, that was
just inane. For Logan Paul to be the last entrant,
that was inane. I mean, you're getting booed that bad.
No one wants to see you in the ring right now.
You have to work a program, a proper program, and
for you to be number thirty when people are hoping
that it would be some kind of legend or somebody
who was actually important to wrestling period, it's kind of

(40:38):
pathetic that Logan Paul was the last one to go in.
And then I look at it and it's like, okay,
we start out with Raymisterio and Penta. I mean it's awesome,
but if you look at the beginning of the matches
when they first started wrestling each other, I don't know
who botched what, but it looked so so like incredibly

(41:01):
scripted in the ring.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Did you notice that, Yeah, everything felt really I don't know,
it felt slow in the beginning, and I don't like
to use that word for this, but it felt slow, overproduced.
And I'll be honest with you, when you see two
guys going at each other and then you see Pentas
just sitting in the corner, just watching the whole thing,
and we were talking about this a little bit of

(41:24):
the discord, like, man, he wants no part of this.
He's just grabbing some popcorn. He don't want to be
anywhere near this one. I think it was a Roman
and somebody, maybe Roman and Jacob or somebody like that.
But either way, it was just like, man, is this
even I don't know. It just felt too overproduced, too fake,
and yeah, that kind of drove my opinion to this
match down, So I agree with you there.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
All right. So looking at the people that were in
this match, in this Royal Rumble, first of all, everybody
knew Joe Hendry was gonna come out, and while he
didn't eliminate anybody, and he got eliminated by Roman Reigns,
and that got a big boo from the crowd, which
I thought was amazing. Still, the fact that Joe Hendrick
came out come on. But then I look at like

(42:10):
people who shouldn't never like Tazawa, what was the point
of that. It was just to put the I Show
speed in there. That is a Vince McMahon going through
Triple H's ear move. It's so stupid. I do not
get it. It's like Tazowa would never have a chance,
neither would Otis. But yet let's put Otis in the

(42:32):
Royal Rumble because that makes sense. No, it doesn't. He's
never gonna be a world champion. Trying to look at
other people that, I mean, the Miz God, he shouldn't
be in anything. And Dominic Mysterio he's cool, but and
he grabs heel heat, but he's not a top name.

(42:54):
He's not Okay, people will disagree with me on this,
but honestly, he's a top heat getter. But do you
really think if Dominic Mysterio and Roman Reigns locked up
or Drew McIntyre that Dominic Mysterio would have a prayer
in hell? Probably not sore they some of the people

(43:18):
I was hoping that would be in this weren't. One
person that really disappointed me. A person I'm big on
and I think that has a very high ceiling is
Ludvig Kaiser. I think that Ludvig Kaiser is way talented.
There's a reason he's on TV every week. There's a
reason he is very, very talented. And I just think

(43:43):
that if they actually let him win once in a while,
that this guy could draw a lot more money that
they're even seeing. And his best money is going to
be his baby face instead of a heel when he
becomes a babyface. Holy biscuits, you're talking about a guy
that has no potential because he has something. He has
a look, he has a build, he has a wrestling

(44:03):
acumen that is just amazing, and yet he's treated like
terrible material every week. It was nice to see aj
Styles back, you know, honestly, I who I wanted to
see in the Rumble and you probably know this is
Nick Oldis And well, if for all the listeners out there,

(44:26):
if you've never seen Nick Oldis wrestle his matches with
Cody for the NWA Championship, and I believe the first
three all in just mind blowing, mind blowing, like Nick
Oldis is a great wrestler, and so I'd like to

(44:49):
see him in the ring one more time because he's
younger than me. He's ten years younger than me, I
think something like that, and he can just wrestle. You know,
other people I think that shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Have been in.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
I mean, didn't I want to see Logan Paul in it.
It was so stupid hav him come out number thirty.
I get it, he's a tough guy, but he's a
tough guy against limited people. I mean, sure he could
probably beat my ass, but I mean, let's be honest,
I don't see him slugging out with Drew McIntyre Roman Reigns.

(45:19):
I mean, I don't see him slugging out with Shinsky Nakamura.
So you know it's or Jacob fat too, who had
the most eliminations. By the way, that's valid.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I mean personally, part of why.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I say I think this match was overproduced. Number twenty
nine was La Night and mean logan Paul, Yeah, SummerSlam.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Guess who lost that match.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
So once again it's just overproduced to me because you
know you got Sina, Punk Rollins all coming out in succession.
It's like, come on, man, you're putting too much star
power all at the end here.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
It kind of just who's too overdone?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
And personally, I don't know if you'll agree with this.
I think they should have put aj Styles at number
thirty if this is the roster they were going to keep,
because then AJ Styles at thirty at least it's a return.
If nothing else, that is a nice surprise for everybody
no matter what. And hey, he doesn't have to win
the match. Just because you're thirty doesn't mean you're automatically
gonna win. Hey, Ray Mysterio was number two and he
won the whole match before.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
It doesn't make a difference here.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
But I do agree with you don't or yeah, Dominic
Mysterio is not quite on that level yet. Maybe in
a couple of years, if he really bulks up, he
could really make a name for himself. Or maybe if
he really innovates his offense, he'll get a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I do think some.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Of these names just didn't need to be there. I
show speed did not need to be there. I'm tired
of seeing YouTubers in WWE. It's one thing if they
really put in the work. I give Logan Paul credit.
He has put in the work and he has really
been doing pretty well. His matches aren't bad, but he's
got so much go away heat and I'm already.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Not really a fan of the guy.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Plus he has to use my first name againey Cloud.
I'm just kidding, but it is annoying whenever I hear that.
I'm not a fan of the guy. I don't think
he's the greatest. I don't think he really is going
to be a world champion anytime soon, and if he is,
that is a disservice to the fans by the company.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
And that's just how I feel now, Jay Uso winning.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
I'm kind of split on it, just because, well, between
him and Sena, I kind of wanted to see Sina
continue on his retirement tour and just be able to
have that road to WrestleMania. But at the same time,
I'm glad that he is putting over the younger talent instead.
Even if it's not the best talent to do that with,
He's still doing the right thing as the soon to

(47:40):
be a retired star and give it up for the
next guy.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I'm glad that he's doing it that way.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
But did you see Sina's face when he was standing
out on the apron against Uso before he got eliminated
and he like looked at the floor and then looked
back at Jay. What the heck was that?

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I don't know, you know, I thought that was kind
of a curiosity thing, and I'm like, what's going on here?
And maybe it was just like a glitch in the
floorboard floor boards or something like that. But I mean,
I don't get it. I don't know what's going on there.
But you know I I would have actually preferred Sina

(48:18):
going over in this match. So we're gonna talk about
main event Jayu so whereas I like to call him
lame event Jayu. So. So his thing is called yeat,
Well that's a slang for throwing things, So yeat, yeat,
yeat that means throw, throw, throw, And it makes Pac
McAfee look like an idiot every week when he gets

(48:39):
up and just throws his arms up like it really
idiotic human being. And so they do this like every week,
and oh, he's selling so much merchandise and he's we
put we put this on him because like he's so
in touch with the fans. Well, if you look at

(49:00):
when Fondongo would come out, people would do the Fondngo dance.
So where's fon Dongo's royal rumble? I just I where's
his win? I just don't know. I can't figure that
one out. So honestly, I see this as lame event

(49:23):
jay usso losing it resumting if he wins, it's a
disservice to everything because he's lost every main event he's
been in. I mean this, this guy's gotta lose his
his entitlement to this, or he has to I don't know,
there's there's something he has to prove. He couldn't beat
Gunther excuse me, Walter, he couldn't beat him. He couldn't

(49:47):
beat anybody on the main event. So for this to
be the next step, it's just sad. This is pathetic.
And I see like the twin exchange happening with this one,
Like you know, like one twin swings the swing under
the ring and then the other twin comes out. Maybe
the dude the freebird rules with the twins. Are you
listening to me? Wwe? I bet you are, And you

(50:10):
know that's that's the way they might defend the belt,
and so both twins are all of a sudden magically champions.
This thing reeks. It stinks to high heaven, it does.
I mean, it reeks a bad fish and bad potatoes.
That's that's what I think about this. That's fair.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I mean, Harmey was hoping that seem Punk this time
around would have gotten his roll rumble wins so that
he could have his WrestleMania.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Main event like he's always wanted.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Even if he wouldn't win it, I don't care, but
the guys wanted, yeah exactly, let him have his one
time for the one time. But I have this weird
feeling that they're going to try to play this out
a little bit more and have some sort of thing
between Punk and Sina so that his last match will
probably be against Punk. That's my thought on it and

(51:04):
what I think is going to happen storyline wise next,
just because I think that'd be probably with the best
for business, unless they want to really put somebody else
over and have seen a pass the Torch next. But
I think rivalry wise, with everything that happened before Punk
left with the title the first time, I think this
would look pretty good at least on paper, But who say,

(51:25):
what will happen in reality.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
At the moment. What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (51:29):
It could work? It could really really work. It could
headline next year's WrestleMania. However, I'm concentrating on this year's WrestleMania,
and there's other people that we've kind of passed over.
What about La Knight and the whole controversy with he
and Logan Paul as far as all the other stars

(51:50):
being really really peoed about that.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Which controversy are you talking about specifically?

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I'm sorry, I'm a little bit out of the loop,
but I'm kind of trying to catch up, guys.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
It's hard being in the UK and trying to watch
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I'm not gonna lie to you guys, just because that
means I have to either stay up super late or
I've got to catch up after work. So can you
please enlighten me on that?

Speaker 3 (52:12):
So Drew McIntyre was removed or he got dumped out
of the Royal Rumble, and then he got mad and
he was visibly angry backstage and grabbed all this stuff
and left, saying that other wrestlers needed to get all
their moves in. And apparently, as it's been reported by
the Dirt Sheets, it was about Logan Paul and La

(52:35):
Night because they worked program last year, and he was
a little pod because basically they didn't give him his
moment in the Royal Rumble and there was like this
really big discrepancy about like he's he didn't get camera
time because they wanted to concentrate on the two of them.

(52:56):
So there's that. That's that little controversy, and apparently he
was pretty mad, and Drew's a pretty big guy, so
I wouldn't mess him off.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Nice little catch there.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Well, I don't know all the ins and outs of it,
but I know Drew is somebody that i've respected for
a long time since he was.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
First in the company.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
I really liked him when he was in SmackDown.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Teddy Long was still the GM of it back then.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
But honestly, I think he kind of does need to
check his ego a little bit on this one step
aside a little bit, let the young guys come in
and do their thing, or newer, I should say, because
La Knight's a little bit older than most people that
are in the ring now, so it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I think he does need to check his ego just
a little.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Bit and just let these newer guys that are really
up and coming and really popular right now do their thing.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I'm not gonna lie to you. I truly believe that.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Drew McIntyre's best work was when he left WWE for
a while. He might disagree with me, but I saw
better in him at that point, and I really feel
like he kind of needs to just check himself and
step back a little bit, step back up.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
When the time is right.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
I don't think right now is necessarily his time. He
had his championship run for a little bit and I
enjoyed that, but I just don't think that was really
the time that he needs the belt.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I don't think he needs the belt right now. I
think he can grow into an Undertaker kind of character
where you don't need the belt. You can be a
character that's a top tier without a belt. Yeah, and
they only used if you look at the Undertaker's World
Tuttle rings, it was very much transitional, So I can

(54:44):
go with that. But I really like Drew and I
really think that like he deserves a lot more, and
I understand why he was kind of pee oed about everything,
but I mean, son of a fish, dude, he should
have been in the ring longer than Logan Paul Well
and especially his his Hell and the Cell match with
with CM Punk. It's just like, how are you missing

(55:09):
a bigger boat on this? And they are definitely missing
a bigger boat. So I think that there's so much
more for him than they're actually allowing at this point.
So I was disappointed with his his throwout. I was
disappointed with aj Styles, but I know Styles is way
on the end. I mean he's almost my age. He's

(55:30):
going to be forty seven, forty eight something like that,
and he still has it. He still has it.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
But like we talked about, maybe an episode or two ago,
he was in one of the last tapings of w
CW Thunder.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, a lot longer than most of these guys.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
And even though he may not have been around WWE
during Sena's run, he was in TNA still doing this
stuff and he was great then.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
He's great now.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Love seeing Styles, but you know, he did just remind
me about Yeah, I still can't believe. Do you remember
wasn't it CM Punk and Drew McIntyre fighting over the
friendship bracelet in that match at a Summerslamp.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Yeah, but that was great writing because they're fighting over
a bracelet and we actually embraced it. That's kind of
weird that I said it like that. I feel like
Doctor Seuss, But yeah, yeah, I do, And I mean,
how do you do it better? How do you write
a story? I mean it's like the what do you

(56:31):
call the thing that Roman Reigns wears? The the Ufalapa
or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I don't even know what it is. Honestly, I'm not
really a bloodline fan.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
But the fact that they feuded over that it didn't
have a title. There was no world title, no US title.
It was just the rights and how much you cared
about something. That's what I like about this new storytelling.
I just think that they did terrible story telling with
jay Uso winning the Royal Rumble and jay usso nothing

(57:05):
against you. You're a great performer. You're always going to
be a twin tag team performer to me. And I
hate to say it, but I if they put the
belt on him, any belt, any championship on him at WrestleMania,
it's just so stupid because he says yeat and people will, well,
what about you know, Daniel Bryant. Daniel Bryan was one

(57:28):
of the best in ring technicians I've ever seen in
my life. Jay Uso isn't. He's just a high flyer.
You have a catchphrase, congratulations. I just don't get it.
That was a terrible ending. It was an absolute terrible ending.
I mean, honestly, I would have kept you know, people

(57:53):
don't get very happy about l A Knight, but because
of his age, but screw it. I would have put
La anybody Punk Rains, even Rains. It would have booed
out the building. But I see it more credible than
jay Uso. He's lame event jay Uso for a reason.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
I just thought about something. What if they want to
put the title on him so they can give it
to someone else like transitional situation. Yes, but my mindset
is also going to what if they're trying to lower
it to a much lower weight class instead of having
Because let's be realistic, Roman has held it for a

(58:35):
long time. It's kind of been held into almost like
a Land of Giants sort of thing. Yes, so if
jay Uso were to win a title, I think it'd
be more credible or a lot easier to see somebody that,
you know, let's throw a name out there that we
know of that would be able to beat jay Uso.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Let's be realistic.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I think La Knight could be jay Uso, and I
think it would look believable.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
At that point, I think might be their.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Way to try to push that down the road and
be like, okay, we can have Dominic b j Usso
this looks like it's possible, unlike having it on Roman
or brock Lesner or anybody like that.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
I mean, it's a good idea as far as the
transitional champion goes. However, I don't buy into it. I
really think that everything that I've heard from Triple H
is basically or what I've heard as far as Triple
H says it like, oh, he has a great fan reaction,
Well so did Scotty Too Hotty? True, but you didn't

(59:36):
let him win the Royal Rumble. When Scotty Too Hotty
would do the worm and a few people can't understand
who I'm talking about. Just YouTube it. And when he
would do the worm, the place would go crazy. It
was almost Road Warrior Pop that big. And it was
just disgusting to me to see, like Jay Uso, who

(59:59):
has lost every main event challenge he's ever had to
be the one to win the Royal. This is going nowhere,
This is pants, this is terrible. I'm hoping that there's
some kind of booking that's going to intertwine and try
to fix everything. Now, we do have two world champions.
We have Cody and we have Gun there. Obviously, Jay

(01:00:23):
is going to go after Gun through Walter whatever you
want to call him, I still call him Walter. So
elimination Chamber has to be a babyface and go against
or excuse me, yeah, we're gonna have to have a
baby or not a babyface but a heel go against
Cody and my thought processes, can you also turn Cody

(01:00:47):
heel before then and have another babyface? So this is
it's very interesting. I hate elimination Chamber. It's my second
most hated pay per view behind Money in the Bank.
I don't like these station pay per views. Like I said,
I grew up in the territory area, and you know,
you didn't have all these like stipulations. And if you
had a stipulation, it was one time and it made

(01:01:09):
a lot of sense and had an impact. When you
have it every year and everything repetitive, it's just it's pants.
So I don't know going forward elimination Chamber. So now,
obviously if jay Lous is going to be a babyface,
and obviously he's going to have to face gun Through
unless Gunther loses the championship. Walter, sorry, who do you

(01:01:34):
see going against Cody or do you see Cody doing
a turn?

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
You know, thinking about it with everything that happened in
that Kevin Owens match, starting to get a little bit
more brutal. What if they do to a turn, because
the way that they could lead into it is like
the next match he just goes kind of ballistic against
another face, maybe grabs a chair or something, really gets
beyond brutal and then and kind of goes off the

(01:02:02):
rails with it. That could be a way to make
it so it's like, Okay, he's turning heel, but more
of a crazier heel at first, and then slowly just
sent into madness that way from the titles and have
somebody take it off them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I'm sure who they are.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Nice fantasy booking, you know, very nice, very very nice,
because at least that's that's a path and that's something
that they can do. And he's obviously played a heel
before with Bullet Club and everything else, so you've got
something there. I mean, I just think that right now,
Cody as the champion is stale. Yeah, it's it's incredibly stale.

(01:02:43):
And I'm not trying to be like a Cody hater
or anything like that. It just it's stale. Stale was
yesterday's bread stale.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I think one of the problems is WWE has grown
too accustomed to having these really long title reigns, and
that's not necessary. You can have well the title for
I would say, even like six months would have been Okay.
I think we're coming up on almost a year at
this point, because we're coming up on Mania soon, aren't we.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Well a couple months, yeah, a couple of months, and
I mean, who's he faced Kevin Owens?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
And I mean there's been a lot that I haven't seen.
I'm not gonna lie to you, but yeah, I mean
he's faced Solo.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Didn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yeah? Who? Why was he not in the Royal Rumble?
But the curates as Owl was. These are questions that
we have to ask, Like, first of all, we know
a Curates owl is never gonna win royal rumble. He's
never gonna be part of a royal rumble. Now there's Otis.
But yeah, they were in there, and the only person
part of the bloodline was Jacob Fattu, who you noticed

(01:03:46):
was wearing different gear. Mm hm, I I you know,
I don't see Solo should have been in that, and
they had no answers for that. I haven't thought that
maybe Kine would come out because at one point before
Roman reigns and they pushed him to the moon, Kine

(01:04:06):
had the most Royal rumble eliminations in one match ever
and I think he holds the record for the most
ever in history as far as running record. And so
I was like hoping, like I'm a big Cane fan.
Everybody knows I'm a big cane Mark whatever, but brass
tacks and baseball batsman, this thing with so much hype.

(01:04:28):
It wasn't slop. It was just like such a letdown.
And like they piped in sound, they piped in yeat.
I don't care about that. The fact is this is
going to be a letdown for WrestleMania. So unless they
find out some other stipulation to get rid of the

(01:04:50):
title or the title opportunity off ju so they're dealing
with a lot in their hands because this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Is not good. This is just not good.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
I don't see this as a moneymaker and people can tell, oh,
I'm not in touch, whatever, guys, this is not good.
But this is really not good. So I mean I
think that out of two I would take in Selena
Vega and for the main event. I mean, I'm a
huge punk fan, but I could have taken I could
have taken Sena for his last tour. Where was Randy Orton?

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah, that's another one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Personally, I think, like you said, uh Tizawa or Otis,
I think they could have used more TNA talent just
to promo, like, hey guys, yeah, we got that new
deal with TNA, and so here's some more of their stars.
You know, let Ace Austin come running in. If he's
still a TNA. It's been a while to really watched,
but he.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Was one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Nick Demigler, Yeah, I mean that that would have popped.
It would have popped bigger than Otis. You know, there
there's so many names that they have over there they
could have used. But I think that the bigger names
that they have, they they you know, it's not like
a two way contract. I think that's one of those deals.
Joe Hendry and and John Cena I think is gonna

(01:06:01):
be money. I think that John Cena's next world title,
when he breaks the record, is going.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
To be the TNA title. That'd be interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
It's a world title. I'd like that it's a world
like that they actually recognize it as a world championship,
you know, that'd be really funny if the push at
the very end for Sena passing the torch goes to
Joe Hendry, that would be really awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
I would actually know that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
In the end. What did you think? Who would did
you want to win the men's role? Bal like period, Like,
let's start a storyline going into Mania. Who would it be?

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Well, who I personally wanted, Well, who I thought was
just going to be CM Punk, who I kind of wanted.
I would have been happy to see Sammy's Ain go in,
and I think that could have been something, but I'm
not sure it would have been the greatest thing for business.
But I would have been happy to see Sammy's ain

(01:07:11):
because you know what, He's been up and coming for
a long time. I don't recall him ever really being
a champion, but I think he's one of the greater
workers in the company right now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
And I'm kinda I don't want to say I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Tired of seeing Kevin Owens versus Sammy's Ain because they
always put on a good show, But I don't think
we need to keep having that match rehashed every what
six to eight months. It seems like they continuously seemed a.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Feud all the time. I'd like to see him in
a little bit bigger of a picture, you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Know, absolutely, I like that. I like sam Zain's That's
a really cool That's a really good sexy pick because
it would have been something that nobody saw. And I
feel like Wrestlemnian is gonna be Sammy Zain versus Kevin
Owens again, just because the end of the Cody match. However, me,
of course, I want to see him punk. Everybody knows

(01:07:59):
him fan, uh for me. Also Finn Dollar. I'm a
huge Finn Dollar fan, and the fact that he's been
treated as toilet paper for like the last two years
is just beyond me. So I think that that could
have been an awesome matchup. As far as who goes
against who, I would also say, and also with the

(01:08:21):
females matches, Alina Vega Zelena Vega period, because she deserves it.
She's worked her boutet off hard, and I think that
she's just a great presence outside and inside the ring,
and I think that she's just a great worker. And
for the guys, Drew, I'm still gonna throw Drew McIntyre

(01:08:42):
out there, just because you know, he gets his WrestleMania
win in front of nobody in the bubble as far
as the pandemic went, and you know, outside Drew, I
mean even Sina. I hate to say it, but you
know I was tired of him. But let him lose
it WrestleMania. It'll mean something. So that's where I am

(01:09:03):
with that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Hang on, what if I hey, isn't elimination chambers the
main event usually.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
A title match?

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
It's yeah, you get a claim to a title match. No,
I mean like, isn't the match itself a title match?
And isn't that how seen? At one point lost the
title to Edge because he just finished going through the
entire elimination chamber to win his.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Belt back and then Edge came out and cashed in
on him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
That might have been a stipulation one time. I'm not
quite sure because it's always been my least favorite. I
didn't watch it because I was angry at it. I
was like, I hate stipulations, meaning more than undercard titles.
That's right, But so I mean, go ahead, that were
to be the case. But if they have seen a
winning an elimination chamber and then WrestleMania comes around, Sina's champion,

(01:09:54):
he still goes to WrestleMania is the main event and
then out comes ju So toa face him. Now you
have that little bit of a rivalry at the very
end of the Rumble because they went up against each other,
shake hands in the middle, go on, go for their match.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Maybe it's a good overall match. Seeing the loses the title,
breaks Flair's record, and that'd be the end of his career.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
What do you think.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
That's some good fantasy booking right there. I love it.
This is why we're related. But I also see I
don't know, I see I see he and Joe Henry.
I I really think that WWE is going to go
after Joe Henry hard after his contract is up. I mean,

(01:10:40):
how would you not? Yeah who The last last pop
like that for somebody who wasn't on the main roster
was Adam Cole. And I'm telling you, I really think
that now Joe Henry is going to be one scene
as opponents. And I think that Sina will win the

(01:11:01):
TNA Championship because they recognized it for the first time
as a world championship. That's a pretty big thing when
they used to recognize nothing. So I think there's some
money there there's some money on the table. I mean,
there's definitely money on the table on that one, and
you know it's there. Do you want to soak up

(01:11:25):
all the biscuits and gravy with your your bread or
do you actually want to eat the biscuits and gravy.
It's there, it's right there, So I think that that's
going to be to me, that's smart booking. So we'll
see what happens with that. But yeah, so that was
Royal Rumble in a shell for me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Fair enough. I think it makes a lot of sense.
I think we broke down pretty well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
I think the future only tell what's going to happen next.
And I'm really, ah, it looks dismal right now, but
I think there's fixes that can be made. I think
we can get somewhere in the future with this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
It's just gonna look a little weird right now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Trust the process. Leaving a triple H's hands. He's done
relatively well so far. She's gotta trust.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Him absolutely absolutely. But like I said, this was a
pretty piss poor result to the Royal Rumble, and I
just wish that, you know, you had anybody else but
the two that are going in because it's just it's
not making sense and it's not gonna write storylines down

(01:12:41):
the road. So you know, people can argue, well, maybe
sammy' zay and jaygo at it whatever. I just I
don't care. It just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
I mean, yeah, and honestly something that I'm just happy about.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Logan Paul didn't win. That was such a disappointing number.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Third.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Last time there was a number thirty that that was
that disappointing was when raymis Stereo came out instead of
Daniel Bryan and the whole place just went bonkers and
bizarre and they were just like pissed so and it
is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Royal Rumbles one of my favorite matches, and like I
told you, I watched the first one on the black
and white TV in my bedroom in nineteen eighty nine
or eighty seven or whatever year it was. It just
comes down to the fact that it's one of my
favorite things and sometimes I love it, sometimes I hate it.
I didn't hate it. I just it wasn't in a

(01:13:38):
plus today it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Yeah, that's fair. It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Time will tell hope for a better one next year,
but for now, we're here. So with that in mind,
you guys know where to reach me. That means it's
MAV at Twitter x whatever you want to call it.
As usual, just something nice for somebody you never know
who needs it. Somebody's always got to need to pick
me up at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
How about you, Gardner, you want to sign off?

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Yeah at one four four, Captain, Uh, you know how
to reach me. Michael Gross and uh, you know I'm
always on the show and MAV and I are always
doing stuff. But I also want to give a movie
recommendation out. So my movie recommendation is a mystic film

(01:14:29):
by Alejandro Jodawaski. I recommend El Topo. If you don't
have a chance, you should watch the previews for al
Topo and you realize it's supposed to be the best
movie ever. And when you watch it till the end,
you go, what the hell? Oh why am I not

(01:14:52):
surprised with this one? It's it's I gotta send you
the link for that. But you got you got to
watch the trail on YouTube. Everybody out there watched the
trailer for the movie al Topo, and it starts out
with be prepared the best cinematic experience you've ever had
in your life. I'm like, well, son of a Fish,
let's go Alejandro Jodwawski presents Eltopo. And then you watch

(01:15:17):
the movie and you go, huh, it's just one of
those things. And next time I see map, we're actually
going to watch this movie together. You and I are
going to watch this movie together. You realize, huh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
So yeah, I remember as a kid, you showed my
mom the trailer, and I remember we were all sitting
there in the living room.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Like what was that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
They all sat there just so confused for a few
minutes after, and we couldn't stop talking about it for
a couple hours, it felt like.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
But I had gotten El Topo t shirts for both
myself and your uncle Tim, and then I bought your
uncle Tim and El Topo hoodie and he was just
like stop, just stop, and I was like, no, El
Topo lives. Jeddawaski is actually a great Hudawaski. I don't

(01:16:08):
know the silent jay, I don't know how it's actually pronounced,
but he's actually a great director. He actually was directing
the original version of Dune, and then they because his
budget was way over the top, they let him go
and they hired David Lynch, who just recently passed away.
And David Lynch did Dune. But you can find a

(01:16:30):
really awesome documentary called Hudawaski or Jeddawaski's Dune, and it
shows you, like all the things he had scripted out,
and it'll just blow your mind. Like the guy was
a great director. But Altopo, I don't get it. And
al Topo is so weird. It's a Western and it's
just so incredibly weird that it created a cinema craze

(01:16:57):
called midnight Madness. So when people would go to watch
basically like midnight movies in movie theaters, El Topo was
always playing and that was like the first movie that
started midnight madness. It was so bad it was good
that it would only play it midnight. So that's what

(01:17:21):
I got, all right, So my recommendation. This past week,
I actually watched this movie for the first time, and
I kind of had a similar reaction in al Topa
in a way, but not quite as confused. But a
movie called Pearl It's on Netflix. It seems like psychological horror.
I enjoy certain aspects of it. There are certain things

(01:17:41):
that are great about it, Like, I really love that
they brought in some things that were used specifically in
like old timey movies back when it was black and
white and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
The way that they did certain things like putting words
on the screen, it looks exactly like how they.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Used to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
And then there's certain things where I'm just very lost
and very confers used. The story itself is wild and
kind of messed up, but watching it as a horror movie,
it's not bad. I do recommend it just for the
one time watch. Honestly, have you seen it before?

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Is that the one that stars me a goth?

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
I think so?

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Yeah, okay, so that's part of a trilogy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Really yeah, it's X.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
And then oh, I can't remember the other one and
then Pearl And basically it's about a woman. My my
friend Josh Lindsay and a big shout out to him
because I love that guy. He's like a brother to me.
Josh Lindsay introduced me to it, but I think we
watched X and basically it's it's you know what I'm

(01:18:46):
gonna I'm gonna look it up before I you know,
perjure myself on air with everybody, but I believe it's
it's part of the trilogy, So we're gonna give me
five seconds, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Okay, no problem, we can always fill the air a
little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
But yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
The movie itself was strange at certain points and had
me very confused why certain things were happening, But towards
the end of it, you know, just.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
The horror aspect was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
So it's Pearl Max scene and X. Okay, so you
have to find the order to watch them in and
then once you find the order, it makes a lot
of sense. So X I think was the one I
watched with Josh or jay Man as I like to
call him. No, it was maybe Maxine hold on some

(01:19:38):
of us dish, But basically it talks about this woman
or the story takes place where this woman she lives
on a farm, and it's old school life and everything else.
And was the direction like the director's view, like really

(01:20:00):
crazy and cool.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
It was pretty wild. I'm not gonna lie. I'm trying
to kind.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Of look up as well what the order is supposed
to be.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
It seems to be a little confusing and vague, but
it was like seem like a normal life sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
In the beginning, then you start to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
See like psychopathic traits from a certain character, and then
you start to see things unfold later on and just
how wild it gets. But I don't want to spoil
too much, guys, but yeah, recommend the movie Pearl for.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
I think Pearl is the first. So I do believe.
I've seen that with Josh, and that's where they have
to feed Theta the alligator.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
I didn't want to say it, but yeah, I was
just gonna try to find.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
A way to hint at it, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
So so a couple of years ago, I went to
go visit my friend in Golf Shores and he's like,
you got to see this movie. It's crazy. I was like, okay.
He's like the sequel is she becomes a porn star.
I was like what, And that's X I believe, and
then Maxine, I believe is the third. Now if I'm
if I'm reading everything right. And so we watched this

(01:21:11):
movie and of course we're drinking a few beers and
whatever else we're just I was just like, this is crazy,
and Josh he just gets those big guys. I keep
watching and uh, I was actually telling my friend today
how I wanted to get an ax alabo and do
you know what that is?

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Yeah, it's that Uh, I'll be honest, I'm not really
sure how to describe it, but it's like that little
water lizard thing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Yeah, but it always smiles and I was gonna name
it feed Him. And so I was actually telling my
friend that today. So it's really weird that we mentally
vibed on the same movie today. And this is not
playing folks, this is just us being us. And uh
so the movie is very intense. It's it's very much

(01:21:59):
you'll broken down before you get built up again. Let's
just put it that way. And it has an ending
where you go, okay, so what's going to happen next?
It make to me. It made me want to know
what was going to happen next, which would be I
believe X and then there's mac thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
That ends up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
But also with the movie, the ending, it almost felt
like it was the end of like some old timey
TV series. So that makes so much more sense now
that I've saw the movie. I didn't realize there were
sequels to it already.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
I love the ending. I love the direction, like the
smile at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Yeah, and how it just got gradually worse and everything. Yes,
I don't want to keep spoiling it for everybody that's listening,
but yeah, that's a recommendation for this week. Guys, pearl
any songs songs for me? This week didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Really have any that were off the top of my head. Man,
what about you?

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
You know it's an oldie, but I love it so much.
Is I'm gonna say, Shwine, you're my disease. It's it's
butt tick from Japan with km FDM and Raymond Watts,
the guy I told you about from Pig that I
wanted you to see in London. Amazing, amazing, just amazing.

(01:23:20):
Just listen to your my disease. Bye bye, Shwine. Okay,
aside from that, we have anything else to say. And
I want to say to everybody on Rustling Magic, thank
you to the team, thank you to everybody who's been
part of us. MAB needs a break. I need I
need some breaks too, and but I'm still going to

(01:23:42):
work through a lot of stuff. And I just want
everybody to know that we care about you. We love you.
You know, everybody from the WWE podcast family loves you.
We just we just want you to keep listening because
that's what we do.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
I cam Man.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
So my final thoughts on this tonight song recommendation, I
actually did find one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
It's called Sleep when I'm Dead by Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Kaye's pretty interesting sound I've found kind of recently, with
a little bit of acoustic guitar and everything, I've been
getting into just that old style that's actually kind of
new where it's newer music with an older style to it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
I'm kind of enjoying it. But along with that words
of my friend Memphis Mark.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
Thanks for listening to the WWE podcast. Don't forget to
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(01:24:48):
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