4 YEARS AGO: WWE Raw Review & Full Crown Jewel Preview & Predictions w/Ashley Mann

Originally aired October 19th, 2021:

Long time co-host Ashley Mann rejoins the show to discuss WWE Crown Jewel with her thoughts and predictions on each match. We also cover all of the events that came out of Monday Night Raw that aired October 18th, 2021.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, as promised, we've got a huge show for
you guys tonight. The first half of the show is
myself reviewing Monday Night Raw that took place last night,
the final Monday Night Raw, the final televised event before
Crown Jewel. And on the second half of the show,
we've got Ashley Mann back with us to talk about
Crown Jewel with all of her predictions and thoughts. So

(00:23):
this is the jam packed show. I hope you guys
enjoy this. Let's get everything going right after this.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to
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Show, the one that everybody.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Wants me sixteen, So I just rip your ass this mony.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
You can acknowledge me. All right, everybody, welcome to the
WWE Podcast. Big week here on the show and in
wrestling if you're a WWE fan, We've got a lot
going on this week as Raw has just ended, and
now of course we've turning our attention to Crown Jewel

(01:18):
in just a couple of days, or depending on when
you're listening to this, it could be today or maybe
even in the past. It's all relative, but we're going
to preview tonight Crown Jewel with Ashley Man, and I'll
be doing the Monday night raw review solo up front,
and we'll try to get through that as quickly as
we can to get to Ashley, which I'm really excited

(01:39):
about as always such a great guest and a long time,
longtime co host. You know, she's really been here since
the beginning of time, when the WW podcast came into existence,
She's been here a few years, so it's really great
to have her back. It wouldn't be a pay per
view without Ashley giving her thoughts and her opinions and

(01:59):
her prediction for the show. So we're going to get
to that in a minute. First, thank you for joining
me here as we are just kind of closing in
on Crown Jewel. I think a lot of WW fans
are just going to be excited when this sole thing
is over and we get to move on to you know,
regularly scheduled programming with w B pay per views. But
be careful what you wish for because Survivor series is

(02:21):
next on the docket and that one, if you want
regular pay per views may not really fit your taste.
It doesn't fit mine. They've really I think just completely
blown up what Survivor series used to mean and how
excited I used to get for it, and made it
an exhibition pay per view that has no consequences whatsoever.
They have toned down the brand versus brand thing, at

(02:43):
least last year they did, but you know, I'm sure
they'll try to incorporate that again this year, at least
to some degree, and try to make us excited for
matchups that should not happen, because you know, this is
not a across a co branded pay per view in
which there should be men and women fighting from each brand.
You just had the brand split and now we're going

(03:05):
right back to seeing the same the individuals fight again.
But we'll get to that pay review when we get
the Survivors series. November always scares me, but again, thank
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Good time to join as we ramp up into the
end of the year and then royal rumbling. Before you
know it, Bam Russ many seasons upon us. Again, that's
how quickly things happen. But all right, well, let's talk
about Monday Night Raw and let's start with Charlotte Flair

(04:08):
and Bianca Belair. Now, why Bianca Bellair was awarded a
Raw Women's Championship match really makes little to no sense.
We don't know why. Again, Contenders matches are supposed to
be believed as people that are people that win those matches.
Competitors that win those matches are supposed to be in
contention for the championship because apparently number one contender doesn't

(04:30):
exist anymore. But Bianca has done nothing really to earn it,
and they just wanted to make the biggest match they
could even though it would make no sense to have
Charlotte retain the championship if she's going to SmackDown. And
Ashley and I, by the way, went into crazy depth
about the possibilities of Charlotte retaining and then having Becky lose,

(04:56):
and yet the SmackDown on the championship is on Raw,
the women's Raw Woman's Championship is on SmackDown. Do this
do the title swap? And we really just go into
depth of crazy just frustration over the convolutedness of this
whole women all the women on every show, and why
the championship matches are being awarded and how does this

(05:17):
work if the championship is exclusive to the show and
yet the talents exclusive to a different show. We really
got frustrated, but it was it was a lot of
fun talking with Ashley about this specifically. So you'll hear
more about it a little bit on our on our
Believe It or Not our Crown Jewel preview and prediction show,
which is immediately following this. So anyway, Charlotte comes out

(05:37):
at the beginning of the show, does a nice job
of delivering her promo here. I really enjoyed Charlotte on
the mic as she just seems to be getting more
and more confident, honestly, and ever since she came back
from injury, it's just like she's been reinvented, ever since
she started calling herself the Opportunity. It really does feel

(05:58):
exactly like that. But Arlett asked why there was no
celebration for her and in the final night before she
moves to SmackDown and complained she was being forced to
defend her championship and that night's main event, and pointed
out that Bianca was being given shots at both Raw
and SmackDown titles in a four day stretch. And then
Bianca came out to confront Flair with eventually the just

(06:20):
a breaking down into a fight, and so we got
the Raw Women's Championship match. Bianca Belair defeats Charlotte via
disqualification when Charlotte used a steel chair in what was
otherwise again a really good match. And God, is Bianca
just so good and Charlotte as well. I would never

(06:41):
mind seeing these two in a match again. I think
there's a lot more to come, but this ends at
a DQ because they felt wwe felt that they couldn't
give the championship to bel Air, who, by the way,
is going to be part of Raw, so you'd think
that she would have wanted here. But Charlotte they're still
trying to protect and having her be a champion on
SmackDown to them makes is more of a priority because

(07:04):
I think they're gonna switch the championships like they did
last year with the Raw and SmackDown tag titles that
I think they're gonna do the same here with the
women's tag championships. So they want Charlotte a champion on SmackDown,
which will eventually morph into the SmackDown Women's Championship. So
I did expect some kind of wonky finish for sure
in this one. King of the Ring Semifinals Xavier Woods

(07:26):
Defeast Jenner Mahal after a rope walk elbow, and it's
going to be in the finals Finn Baler versus Xavier
Woods for the King of the Ring title at Crown Jewel.
I won't give away who I think is gonna win,
because the Previeum Prediction show will give you that, but
I will just say that this match was good and
Xavier continues to show why he could easily go off

(07:48):
on his own hint hint, hint, e fing hint. I'm
really over though the whole just acting like children every
single time they're on a microphone with the interviewer before
they go out to the ring. And I don't know,
I just to me, always acting like children when you're

(08:08):
getting paid a man's salary is embarrassing, among many, many,
many other things that just despise despise about the New Day.
Kofe and Xavier, to me, are just the absolute worst
part of the New Day. And I mean that in
a character's perspective. I don't mean that on a personal
level in order. I mean that on an in ring competitive,
a competitors level. They're both very good in the ring.

(08:31):
It's all about character here, just same the problem I
have with the Biggie. But let's move on. Austin Theory
defeats Jeff Hardy via pinfall. After hitting the Theory, Ko
and Our Truth was interrupted backstage, and because it was
Our Truth was in pursuit of the twenty four to
seven Championship, and then Truth accepted a match on behalf

(08:53):
of Jeff Hardy, setting up a rematch of last week's clash.
After Theory one, he took a selfie with heart, only
to be hit with a twist of fate before Hardy
took a selfie of his own, so Hardy gets a
little bit of retribution even though he loses to Austin theory.
So I think the most interesting part of this is
to see if we see Willow or another alter ego

(09:14):
of Jeff Hardy on SmackDown, Like that's that's really what
we're looking forward to do. Your McIntyre and Bigie defeat
Don Zigler and Robert Rud via pinfall after Biggie hit
Rude with a big ending after brawling during the tag
team match. McIntyre and he got along this week until
after the match when they exchanged words, so you know,
they actually didn't implode on one another. They did coexist.

(09:37):
So that's a rare feat when you have foes put
in a match, a tag team match that usually they
imploded in some capacity. They didn't and they function pretty
well as a tag team. Although, and I said this
with Ashley, I don't understand their relationship. I don't understand
their on screen relationship anyway, where they're just best buds.
They have their cool little secret inside her handshakes at

(10:01):
times like their brothers and then all of a sudden
that out of nowhere, for no reason, they just start
flipping out at each other in the ring. It's very bipolar.
I don't understand it at all. But here we are
with Biggie and Drew having to have a championship magic
Crown Jewel. You'll hear our predictions. In just a few minutes.
Mansor defeats Centric Alexander via pinfall. I don't really have

(10:21):
much to say there other than Mansor is just being
groomed for the crowd in Saudi Arabia, so they're building
him up a little, I guess. And by the way,
if it sounds like I'm reading, I am. I'm reading
from CBS Sports, just so I don't miss anything that
happened on RAW, especially the things that weren't on the
Hulu version. So it's not that I didn't watch RAW

(10:41):
and I'm just relying on the descriptions of the show.
I'm not that lazy, I promise, okay. Next on the
docket here, Bobby Lashley and Goldberg participated in a remote
interview where Goldberg again vowed to kill Lashly, which Lashly
pointed out as criminal, before saying Goldberg couldn't kill anyway.
Lashly finished by issuing a warning that Goldberg has never

(11:03):
faced him without restrictions like the no holds barred match
at Crown School. So Ashley and I also talked about this,
but I'll briefly just say that this match is not
what I'm looking forward to because of the limitations of
Goldberg in the ring, and when you start talking about
killing your opponent, it reeks of desperation for attention to

(11:28):
this match, because I think on its own merit, with
typical wrestling build and story, they could not get the
crowd interested in this because it was so poorly recepted
at the last pay per view. Poorly received, so when
they go the route of just extreme, that tells you
that they are in desperation mode to make this match relevant.

(11:50):
That's all, and it's nowhere disrespect to Bobby, but that's
just the reality of it. Ashley and I also talked
about gauge and what we'd love to see. How at
Crown Jewel it gets a little bit morbid. I will
say that in a fun way. Okay, RK bro defeats
the Street Profits via disqualification after interference by aj and

(12:11):
omos or Omas Styles hit Randy Orton with a phenomenal
forearm in the middle of the match, resulting in the
DQ almost then attacked Riddle before the team also took
out the Profits. So Almost stood tall. Randy Orton gets
a little bit of or rather Aj gets paid back
on Randy after getting hit with an RKO two weeks

(12:32):
in a row, and so logic would dictate that Dark
Bro should retain at Crown Jewel, but I'll let you
mull over that for a few minutes. This was fine.
You know, I think the Street Profits are absolutely here
to stay in the tag team division, in a tag
team division that is paper thin. They are really one

(12:53):
of like three teams that exist, which is like two
more teams than the women have. So this was fine.
I didn't have any issue with this. I really didn't.
RK Bro seems to be on the same page. I
hope that they have a little bit longer of a
ragin at least a couple of months before they decide
to potentially break them up. But okay. The Queen's Crown
semi Finals Do Drop defeats SHANEA. Besler via pinfall after

(13:16):
countering with a career countering the care of food to clutch.
Do Drop advances to face Selina Vega in the finals
at Crown Jewels. So Do Drop does score a victory here,
but a believable one because she used her weight. They
won't say that because it's offensive, but that's the fact.
I mean, that's physics. She used her mass to keep

(13:37):
the shoulders of Basler down end a story, but I
can't say that. We're in a different world now, but
that's the reality. And I have nothing against Do Drop.
I'm a fan of Do Drop. I think she's got
a great future and I think her her weight is
an asset, not a comedy segment that Vince probably looks
at it ass but Do Drop does advance. It was

(13:57):
a bit surprise in giving Shanna Bezol was just snapping
arms and then she loses to Do Drop cleanly. It
was that that part of it. I was like, hmm,
you know, I'm not super discouraged by it, because you know,
Do Drop is on the ascent and she's in the finals,
but it was just like, oh, really, you know, Shanna
Baseil is just snapping arms and being the Shanna Basil
we all want, and then she loses to you know,

(14:20):
Do drop cleanly, So take that for what you will.
I'm not going to look too much into that. We'll
have to see what happens after the Crown Jewel pay Review,
when all the rosters are reset and then the official
season premiere begins. But all right, Finn Ballad defeats Mace
via pinfall after hitting the coupdi Gras. Woods was out
to watch his King of the Ring opponent live and

(14:41):
Finn Balor and Xavier Woods come face to face and
have some words, and they were I don't know, they
were yelling at each other. I didn't even really pay
attention to exactly what they were saying. I think I
think Xavier said something about Finn Balor's the prince, but
I'm going to be one promoted to king or something
like that. You know, I don't know. I have a

(15:03):
pick that I think you're going to be interested in
for who I think is going to win that match
at Crown Jewel and why. While I hate the decision,
I hope it's for the right reason. That'll make more
sense when you hear it. Hear my fleshed out answer
to who I think is going to win the King
of the Ring. So that essentially was Monday Night Raw.
This is a little bit more of an abbreviated version

(15:23):
of my raw review. But I'm so excited to get
to be able to get the Ashley and myself conversation
with Crown Jewel and respect the Crown Jewel to you
guys that I didn't want to drag on too long
about Monday Night Raw because next week really is the
reset button truly being hit. Because the rosters are reset
officially or past Crown Jewel. We're back to regularly schedule

(15:45):
of programming and we can all take a sigh of
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(16:08):
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talk to you next time. Okay, Well, WWE, Crown Jewel

(16:29):
is just a couple days away. As I record this
on a Thursday, I'll never get used to saying that
that it's on a Thursday at noon when everyone in
the continental United States is probably working, we will be
being able to view some of you. Maybe a Crown
Jewel coming to us from Riad, Saudi Arabia, the Kingdom
of Saudi Arabia. It is actually a kingdom, guys. I

(16:49):
did get confirmation of that. They didn't just add that
in as some kind of fluff. It is truly a kingdom.
It's designated as a quote unquote kingdom. So we've got
Saudi Arabia on the docket here for Crown Jewel, and
I've got Ashley Man back with me as is tradition
to cover the Crown Jewel pay per view with all
the predictions, all of the preview and welcome back Ashley.

(17:11):
It's not a pay per view without you.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Hello, Hello, Matt. Thank you so much for having me.
And you're right, it is back to our normal tradition
of the preview shows. But it is so weird of
being on a Thursday. It makes my whole week feel
thrown off to think that there's a quote unquote pay
per view that you know, like, oh I need to
check up and see like who did what and just
stuff like that. So it's during the week. It just
really throws you off, kind of like with just like

(17:35):
the whole AAW on Saturday last week. It just if
one little thing moves wrestling wise in your world, it's
like your whole week is throwed off.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, yeah, it does. It really screws you up. I know,
like a lot of people and I don't have time,
but the AW fans I watch on a regular basis,
everyone was all screwed up last week. It does because
a lot of people build their week around wrestling and
the show that's going to be on Wednesday night. Okay,
it's Dynamite of Wednesday Night. Okay, got it. I'm going
to do this and this, and they a lot of

(18:06):
people do. They build their schedules around wrestling and when
they'll be able to watch it. And with with w
WE Crown Jewel on a Thursday, it feels it feels
almost like a taboo Tuesday, like it's it's very bizarre, right,
like and I don't know. I'm sure there's some political
reason or governmental reason for it being on a Thursday
and not a weekend, i'd imagine. But nonetheless, we have

(18:26):
a lot to talk about on this on this pay
per view, and I guess let's really just kind of
get into it. Well, let me ask you this, what
are you most looking forward to on this pay per
view in terms of matches or potential returns.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, I'm not really thinking there's gonna be anything return Rizer.
Honestly that nothing that has popped out to me, unless
I'm just completely overlooking something that's obvious.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
On the Lias is still out there. He's maybe he's
still burning his stuff in the woods. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
That's why I had that, That's why I had you here.
But yeah, speaking of like that's so weird, like they
it's kind of like with the whole Alistair blathing, like
they do all these promos and then like that. But
at least Alistair came back for one week, but Elias
didn't even make a return. He just like through like
burn his guitar right and then like was in the
woods and then just that was it.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, I mean, maybe he's with Brandon Brandon, everyone's looking
for Brandon. What's his name? Right, So Gabby Potito's fiance.
Maybe he's out there, like you know, maybe he's out
there and they're they're buddying up and lost in the
lost in the forest. I don't know, but yeah, it's
right now. Yeah, I don't know what the Elias is.
I don't know when he's coming back. I'm sure he'll

(19:34):
pop up out of nowhere. But you know, what about this?
Are you looking forward to the main event of brock
Lesner versus Roman Reigns, maybe the Hell in a Cell
match between Edge and Seth Rollins, Bobby lash Year versus Goldberg, Like,
do you have a match specific do you have a
match specifically that you're like, Okay, this isn't technically a

(19:55):
true pay per view, especially from those watching the United States.
It's kind of like watching Insurrection Overseas when they did
that pay per view for the UK. It's like, it's
a pay per view that exists and we'll accept it,
but it's it seems like a lot of people don't
truly consider it their pay per view. But do you
have a match specifically that you're like, Okay, I'm actually
invested in this.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah, I think, and to be fair, I think it's
a really good lineup, Like it's solid. The only thing
that in Again, like we mentioned not to go off
on a tangent or anything and not get too detailed,
but it's like it's one of those cards where it's like, dang,
like you really wish you could get more hype for it,
but due to everything surrounding the event itself, it's you know,
one of those shows that you know, the majority or

(20:34):
I'm not gonna see the majority, but probably a good
amount of people aren't gonna watch for various reasons, you know,
to each their own. So it's kind of kind of
sucks that they put all this work and build into
such a solid and pretty good card and it's just
kind of like the feel good aspect of it isn't
quite there, So that kind of sucks. But man, I

(20:55):
the match that I'm most looking forward to is that
Range and Lessner match, and I think for me it's
obvious just because the story itself, like it's just it's
without you know, without doubt, the best thing going into
uty right now in my opinion, at least, maybe someone
out there, you know, things like the women is much better.
But I don't know. I just think that this whole

(21:16):
story and the intrigue with Paul, you know, and who's
he really with. And I don't know if you saw
his tweet. I think it was maybe today or maybe
it was yesterday, or was a post he did saying
that he was going to it may have actually been
a post that he was going to leave Crown Jewel,
you know, with the heavyweight Universal Champion, but he didn't
specifically mention Roman Range's name. So it's like things like that.

(21:38):
I mean, like we've talked about before, Paul is just
a master at so not to get too much into it,
but yeah, I think that one in and of itself,
like I would want to watch the show just for
that match.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I think for me, that's my second match, and it's
a close, very very close second, just simply because the
storyline is really really good. Roman Range. Everything he touches
right now is it just turns to brock Lesner is
brock Lesner. We all know what he brings to the table.
I don't think it's gonna be like a five minute match.
I do believe it'll be ten twelve minutes at least,

(22:10):
you know, I don't think it'd be again, it's not
a Goldberg special. Some people think it's going to be
trying to be finished, finish, finish. I highly doubt that
these two have a lot of experience in the ring,
and we'll get to the full preview on that match
in a minute. But for me, I think that the
most the match that I'm most emotionally invested in, and
again it's a close second for me, but my top
one is Seth Rollins an Edge, and just because of
how great the promos have been with both guys. Both

(22:33):
of them are at the top of their games, particularly
Seth Rollins, who has really falling into this, this character
that he just whoever whatever this is is truly the
character that Seth was meant to play, coming out in
ridiculous outfits, his promo style, starting out kind of soft
and jokey and just kind of obnoxious and then turning
into this eventually just screaming anger like that has been

(22:57):
his his promos style and cadence over the last several months,
and it's been really really great. It's not just Dolf
Zigglers screaming, you know, zero to one hundred for everything
he says has to be yelled. Seth makes it make
sense when he starts to amp up his voice for
what he's talking about. I really enjoyed that the home
invasion with Seth and Edge was was it was. It

(23:19):
was very PG of a home invasion. I'll say that
there's a lot more he could have done other than
sit at his kitchen table and eat an apple and
orange juice, which, by the way, is like the worst
combination in the history of combination of foods. Like I'm
telling everybody goes it's like that's like having a toothpaste
and orange juice. I mean, it's a bad combination. I
don't know why he chose everything that a yeah, yeah,

(23:40):
he's just he's probably trying not to sell it. I
mean it's just like he's oh right, Like but in
a PG environment is about as home invasiony as it
could have been. But I really have enjoyed edges intensity.
I love how they're bringing the sellback when it actually
makes sense and not just there as part of the
damn schedule. That's been excellent for me, and so I'm

(24:02):
really invested in this in terms of just the violence
of this match. Sadly, in a PG environment. This is
where it kind of caps the potential because unless there's
a gift from the wrestling gods of somebody getting busted
open the hard way, blood is needed in this match,
in this rivalry, and particularly being the third one, it's
the blow off inside of a cell. I really am

(24:23):
hoping that if blood happens, it's either somehow approved by Vince,
or if it happens the hard way, that it's obviously
done safely, in the most safe, safest way possible, of course,
but that to me is the number one match I'm
looking forward to.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, no, I agree with you one hundred percent, and
to be fair, that is right up there with what
I'm most looking forward to as well. Like you said,
I've always been a Seth role and span and but
this incarnation of Seth is just my favorite as well.
I think the way he kind of transitioned from that
Messiah version of Seth into this kind of like hybrid

(24:57):
of all of his past incarnations, it's just it's it's
it's just amazing. And the little lap that he does
sometimes I think he can hold back a little bit
on it, but man like, it's just a lot of
times it just it's needed, and it's just obnoxious. And
it's just him, you know what I mean, Like he
is such a good heel that it's just everything that

(25:18):
he's doing right now. I know a lot of people
aren't really that hot on him, but everything that he's
doing the past few months especially, I've just really been
a fan of it, and I'm just I'm excited, like
you said, to see that this direction is I'm assuming
this is the blowoff. And like you had mentioned, the
cell finally being used for what it was originally designed for,
you know, to to put it into a feud, into

(25:38):
for the final chapter. So the sea it actually being
used for that is is so refreshing, and it's just
it goes back to the like you wish that they
would kind of just do away with the whole hell
in the cell gimmick paper view itself, because it would
make this match mean even much more if we hadn't
just seen us all this year. But even with that aspect,
you know, like these two guys like they deserve credit.

(26:00):
So like even if we did just have like a
full pay review of cell matches, I'm still that excited
to see this one because of the story and the
work that they put into it. So it's definitely going
to be a hard hitting match, and man, I hope
we get blood, like as weird as it is, Like
I just I hope, like you said, we get something,
because it's just not a cell match without it. And
to think that all the like blood baths that we've

(26:21):
seen in the past and a hell in a cell
and to think that now we can't even get like
a little stream of blood. It's just man, it's just
it's sad.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
It is it's a tragedy. It is what it is.
And I don't want blood all the time. I don't
want chair shots at the head all the time. But
if there was ever a time to do it, this
is one of the deserving rivalries. Yeah, Like if you
could somehow get a chair that's uh, you know, a
worked chair that's actually safe, somehow to hit somebody in
the head, Like, this is the time to do it.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Just ask for forgiveness later.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah exactly, I mean good, yeah, yeah right, like exactly.
And if there was ever a time for the wrestling gods,
like at WrestleMania thirty one with Brock and Roman Reigns
that apparently wasn't supposed to happen with Brock getting busted open.
That blood that Brock had a that in that match
again was just added to the drama of the match,
and so I'm really hoping that that happens. I think
at the very least we might get thumb tacks. I

(27:12):
could see thumb tacks coming out in this match. You know, somehow,
they they're okay with that. I've seen thumb tacks in
a PG environment before, and some you know, chair shots
and you know, blood could just just a simple little
quick razor blades cut to the head is unacceptable. But
you know, who knows, Maybe the wrestling gods will shine
down upon us on Thursday, Thursday midday and we'll see

(27:35):
what happens. But let's let's actually transition to the card
here and start getting into the art predictions and see
how poorly we do. Although last time I got to say,
I think you you might have swept the table on
the last paper game.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I think, yeah, yeah, one of the women matches.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah it was one of the women's Alexa Bliss. I
think I said she was gonna win, and uh yeah
that didn't happen. So other than that, yeah, we were
pretty damn good. At the last uh last paper. Use
Le's see if we can keep that going. We're gonna
start with Mansor, the hometown boy, mister superhero that will
he's invincible in Saudi Arabia versus Mustafa Ali or mustaf Aali,

(28:12):
take your pick. Ali, I'll take this one first. I
think it's a slam dunk that Mansor wins. I mean,
I don't see any reason for Ali to win this match. Again,
if it was somewhere else, anywhere other than Saudi Arabia,
I would say Ali should win this. But Mansor in
his hometown will be treated like the return of Stone
Cold Steve Austin. I mean, he is for whatever reason

(28:35):
other than just being a from Saudi Arabia, that's the
only reason that they love him. He's gonna win this match.
And I think it's gonna be a really good match actually,
because these two are technically sound, they're young guys, athletic.
The quality of this match I have no problem with.
And Mansor easily takes the victory on this one, and
they'll probably interview him afterwards for some kind of cheesy

(28:56):
anything you guys put your mind to, you can do
it kind of thing that's what they do and the
crowd will go yay, and that's a feel good moment.
So do you have any other thoughts on this or
what's your prediction.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
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Speaker 3 (29:35):
No, I think that's actually how he ended the last
one too, by that same type of speech. So yeah,
and it's probably exactly how it's going to happen this
Center who he faced last time. Was it like Cizarro
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I think I think it was, yeah, yeah, yeah, And you.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Know the thing is, like everything else to society, he
is a pretty solid and technacal like you said, wrestlers,
so it is going to be a very good match.
And the intensity that he's showed on Monday and with
this promo, like I was, I was actually impressed, like
it was, And it was cool that they either allowed
him or he just impromptu like went off and spoke

(30:10):
like his own language. Not that that was you know,
pretty cool like it was. It was a nice touch
for you know, this the situation that we're in right
now leading up to this show and you know, the
environment and everything. So I just I just thought it
was pretty cool, you know. It was just a nice
little like tie in because obviously, like Mustafa is I'm
pretty sure of the same background as as well, but

(30:33):
he I think he's I'm pretty sure they're both Muslim,
so I it's just a pretty cool thing. I think
he had posted something saying like this is gonna be
the first time to Muslims have faced one on one
on a pay per view or something to that effect.
So again, you know it, I'm I'm happy for them
and Mustafa Again he posted something else as well that

(30:54):
he has said that he was going to donate his
his earnings I guess from the show to a charity.
So it's just it that's very cool with him, So
shout out to him for doing that, because I'm sure
they get a nice litt chunk of change for for
all that. So yeah, it's obvious that Mansar is gonna
win because of you know, where they're at. But if
this were to happen, if they were to have a rematch,

(31:14):
I could see Musefa going over and then them kind
of you know, going from there. But it should be good.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Nonetheless, yeah, again, I have no problem with him winning.
It's it's just the hometown. Boy's gonna gonna.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
He's the only one that wins in his hometown.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, really that is. And I don't know
if it's because of fear of pissing off the crowd.
I don't know why they just will not make him loose.
I mean the heat that he would that w W
would get or what beats imagine getting a beat down.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Last show waited the last Crown rule, like the last
of their what was ten year contract, just waits like
to save him for the main event. Yeah, this big match,
and he just gets like demolished in like twenty seconds.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
They build him up, build him up, build him up,
and then he's like main event against like I don't know,
Roman Reigns or something for the Universal Championship. People haven't believed. Yeah,
and then they just have him get squashed like Kopee
Kingston in eleven seconds and then they just shut the
lights off and run out of the arena. Yeah, thanks
for thanks for thanks for your cash. I mean I would,

(32:14):
oh my god, I would give them so much credit
for that. I mean, you talk about press, you talk
about people losing their there would be a full scale riot.
I mean people would actually I think jump the barricade.
I mean it would be oh man. But yeah, no,
he's gonna win this. And if they want to continue
this program afterwards, I think that's fine. And they have
given a man Soor, like you said, a little bit

(32:35):
of Mike time, but I think it's all to build
to this. I mean it's almost like they have Mansor
on the roster simply for Saudi Arabia, like Saudi Arabia events,
like that's the only reason he's employed. At times, it
feels like, so, you know, I'd like to see them
do more with him in general. But yeah, this, he's
gonna win. If he doesn't, and they actually try to
get some heat off this, I'll give w W credit
like I want to see him lose to see how

(32:58):
the crowd reacts. But all right, let's get into the
Queen's Crown finals here. So let's see. I got to
look at the brackets. They didn't. They don't have brackets
on my screen. Awesome. So the finals, I correct me
from w Long off the top of my hitter. The
final is do drop versus uh Zolna Vega yes, yes,

(33:20):
so take your pick on this one.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah. So, I honestly, I really don't know how to
feel after this past Monday. So part of me is
very let me take even a step back. I kind
of didn't want Shanon to win the tournament just because
of how the winner of these tournaments always portrayed as
like a joke and you know, not really taken seriously.

(33:47):
But part of me was hopeful that this is the
first Queen of the Ring tournament, maybe they'll take it seriously.
Maybe this is this could be something good, right, and
it kind of plays into her character, the Queen's page,
all that good stuff. And then she lost on Monday,
and my initial reaction was, are you I've been kidding me?
Because like I thought that she was back on this track,

(34:08):
you know, and then she loses in I'm just just
sitting there like why, you know, And then I part
of me kind of snapped out of it, and I
was like, you know what, this actually made be a
very good thing because of that exact reason. She's not
going to be handled down with this this moniker having
to be referred to as the Queen, say stupid catchphrases

(34:29):
and just stuff like that. She can continue on cause
she's going to SmackDown right, yes, next week, Yeah, so
she can start fresh on SmackDown and just run rampage
on then and just hopefully just exactly just start fresh
down there. So having said that, in kind of taking
a step back with the whole tournament thing, it kind
of makes sense if someone like al Do Drop wins.

(34:50):
And again, like it pays me to say that because
of who Piper is, you know, like how great of
a wrestler she is and all the good stuff. But
you know, with what she's doing right now and this
version of her, I think it's I would have says
Selena Vegaf it was maybe anyone else, but with do
Job being in there, I'm going with do Drop. I
think she's kind of the perfect fit in a weird

(35:12):
way for this. Like she's bubbly, she jumps around, she's
like always happy, like I just not. I don't know
if making a mockery of it is the correct way,
but like she can kind of just like I don't know,
I don't know helped me off that phrasing, but like
she I could just see guys like the perfect fit
for us. So I'm going with do drop as badly
as I initially wanted it to be Shanna, just because

(35:33):
I thought it'd be cool if they actually took this seriously.
But obviously with the short one two minute matches, that
wasn't even a thought to begin with. So here we are.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
No, I actually have not felt great about the way
WWE has presented this tournament as a whole for the women.
And I'm cool with them having a queen's crown, i e.
Queen of the Ring Tournament. I think it's great. But
the thing that I don't like is that they did it,
but then didn't execute it in a way with that
that would show respect to the women. What I mean

(36:04):
by that is like they had most of these matches,
most of the matches from the semi finals or the qualifiers,
and not the qualifiers, but from the first round all
the way till now, they have made most of the
matches like one two minutes long. I mean Roman reigns
entrances most weeks have been longer than the the the
matches combined. I mean, it has been really I think,

(36:25):
kind of disrespectful.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Matches over with.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, I mean seriously, it's it's been so to me,
that's a really disrespectful piece of what w W E
the way they presented it, and we're supposed to believe
that this is some kind of prestigious crown and all that,
and like, to some degree it's going to be it's
gonna be cool to see a woman, you know, win
if the inaugural Queen's crown, But they've really executed it

(36:50):
poorly in a way that's like, hey, yeah, we're doing
this so we make the women on equal footing with
the men, but we're not going to execute it in
a way that actually shows that we have weight behind it,
Like we're doing it for optics. We're not doing it
to actually show you that we have that the women
are on the same level. Like I just I don't know,
I haven't felt great about the way that they've they've

(37:11):
gone about it, particularly with just the length of matches
for almost all of them. But that said, who do
I think is gonna win? I'm actually gonna go with
Zelena Vega on this one, because do drop I think
that she's I don't think she's right now anyway that
she's got the support behind her that maybe WWE thinks
that she does. The fans are are you know they're

(37:32):
receptive to her and they cheer her. But I think
that Zelena Vega would be to me a more entertaining
queen because I think she would take it more seriously
than new Drops dew Drop would be. She'd be kind
of floating around dancing and having a good time, and
that's fine, but I don't think what is she going
to do with that crown, Like, I mean, there's only
so many weeks she can come around and play pretend

(37:54):
with her crown and her scepter. I mean, so I
think that Selena Vega being that vicious, this kind of
moleficent type of character, that she could really just go
into an evil mode of being like an evil ruler
or whatever. I mean, I'm a big Zeleena Vega fan.
To me, that's also part of it, Like I want

(38:15):
Zelena to get some kind of push, even if it's
not the championship right now. So to me, Zelena would
be a better fit because I think Zelena, who's been
there longer, needs this push more than do Drop, who's
got more time in front of her than Zelena Vega does.
So I want Selena Vega to win, and I also
think she has the edge here. I don't know how

(38:35):
she's gonna win given that the size difference is really
crazy between these two. I mean, I don't know what
kind of match we're gonna get. I would suspect it's good.
You know, it could be a disaster, and honestly, it
could be, but I don't think it will be. I
think it'll be okay. I think it'll be the match
will be probably five minutes long, six minutes but best.
I really don't expect a long match with these two,

(38:56):
but it'll probably be an okay match. Do you expect
quality wise? Are you concerned?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yes, yes, and no. Like I honestly don't think it's
gonna be that bad. I don't think it's gonna be long.
I think both of their respective interests are gonna be
longer than the match itself because you know, they have
that long rim, but don't take every to get there,
so I don't I don't think it's gonna be a
long match at all. But I don't think it's gonna
be that bad.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Like I said, do Drop is very solid in the ring,
so she can definitely handle her portion, and she's been
in the ring with women the size of Zelena Vega before,
so they I don't think it's gonna be as bad
as as people may expect it to be. I don't
think it's gonna be like, you know, Match of the
Year Canada or anything like that. But I think it's
gonna be you know, another good match, and I could definitely,

(39:42):
like you, you're staying there. I can definitely see Zelena
pulling this out because, like you said, I'm a huge
fan of hers. Also, like I thought she should have
won money in a bank, but you know, I this
could be good for her and I could see her
like just her look, Like I could totally see her
with like the crown and the whole get up, so
that could be cool too. But I think it's it's
gonna be a matter of if they want the respect
of like kings and queens to be like a hero

(40:04):
or face going for like on the shows, because this
is it's these shows always kind of three off two
because it kind of gives you like that, I mean,
this may be understanding and too much at this point,
but like in a house show, feel where like it's
just like a show where like you don't really expect
much to happen on like you know, like newsworthy wise,

(40:26):
like title changes and stuff like that. But so you
kind of just expect like it to be like a
feel good and like just like a fan favorite show.
So that's why those these kind of like are interesting too,
And the more we start to have of them, the
more it's like, Okay, well do you really need to
make the crowd happy? You know what I mean? So
it's it's it's a weird, a weird thing being over
there for that respect too.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
It is, Yeah, now I see what you mean, and
I could see I honestly could see this match going
both ways quality wise. Like I said, I think it'll
be okay. I think it'll be a five out of ten.
It won't be embarrassing, it won't be awesome. It'll be
it'll it'll be fine, is really what it'll be. It'll
be It'll be fine. But yeah, like I just think,
like right now, Selena Vega is in a position where

(41:08):
they need to do something with her, and she's in
need of a character change other than just randomly teaming
up with Carmela for no reason and losing match after match.
I mean, up until this tournament, she won like one match.
Upon her return to w WE after she was let go.
So this, this to me, is a good part, a
good point for her to jump off into it, and
nothing nothing against Do Drop hyper Nivin Like I have nothing,

(41:30):
you know, nothing bad to say about her. I like her,
I like her promo style, I like her, I like
her look. I think that her look is an aid
while some people don't. And you clearly Vince McMahon probably
looks at it as a negative given the fact that
he changed her name to do Drop and made her
just this bubbly, kind of laughable character, which is what
he did with Otis if you're seeing some parallels here,

(41:52):
it's clearly from the same source, which is Vince. You know,
I know Nia Jack's is the same body type that
she's taken more seriously, and I hope at some point
Do Drop while she's fun that you know, we we
don't just look at her as kind of the comedy
relief or the joke of the women's division, and she
she is forced to be reckoned with her like she
is athletic in the ring for her size, and I'm

(42:14):
looking forward to what she can do in the future.
So I just don't think it's her time I don't
think it's her time. I think Zelinaveagel will probably cheat
to win, and that's fine. I mean she's a heel.
So yeah, So okay, King the Ring Finals. Here we go.
Xavier Woods and Finn balor Uh. I have thoughts on this,
but I'm gonna take a breath. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (42:36):
So this is actually a hard choice? And I okay,
So I don't I don't really watch like like the up, up,
down down channel or anything like that, but I know
that Xavier was just been pushing for this for I
guess years now that he just wants to be King,
and someone I forget where I heard it, but someone

(42:58):
had made a point that I didn't even realize it.
But he's never held a singles championship in his w
B career. It's only been like a tag team championship,
which is kind of interesting when you think about like
his longevity there and like just he's not even like
a universe like a universal a United States Championship or
anything like that. So that was just kind of interesting,
so part of me. And then when you look at

(43:21):
Finn right like future Hall of Fame right at this point,
right like it's he stacked. His his resume is what
it is, you know, like he technically doesn't need anything
else and he's good, not granted. Does he deserve it
and should he? Yeah? Like he do. I think he
could be champion. Yeah, Like you know, there's totally, you know,
so much you could be doing with Finn, but that's
you know, whole other story. But for this situation in itself,

(43:44):
while I think, you know, they would love to play
off of oh, like is he you know, like his
whole thing is like Prince Finnbala and all that that.
But I think I could see them wanting to play
off of that and him being promoted to king or whatever.
And I think either Corgary's or someone had made a
to that this past week on commentary or maybe it
was last week, But I just man like in saying

(44:07):
all that, and like I've never been like a huge,
huge New Day fan, Like they're really cool and like
you know, like it is what it is, Like I
respect their hustle and like, you know, like they're a monster,
Like they've just marketing and just everything behind them and
just the hustle and all that good stuff. I kind
of want to see Xavier when it I kind of
think it'd be cool for him, like for whatever reason,

(44:27):
like and I may have missed it if he explained
where why this means so much to him? But you know,
like this dude, like it means so much to him.
He's been with the company for how long now, like,
and you know, it's it's one of the things like
do you you know, does does everyone is like a
participation trophy equivalent type thing Like I don't. I don't
view it as that. I think it's this guy's been

(44:48):
there for a while and he he deserves it, you know,
like it's not like they really take this thing seriously
anymore anyway, which is a travesy in and of itself.
So I say give it to Xavier. He's perfect for
the role when you think about it, Like, if you're
not gonna have a heel be the king, have someone
obnoxious like Xavier. So he'll come out there with his
trombone and his crown and all that crap. So just

(45:10):
let him taking it half fun and he can finally
claim that he's the king and be done with that.
And then you know, because what are you really gonna
do with Finn as the king? You know, like I don't.
I don't picture a king Balor unless he's gonna go
like make a heel turn, which I don't really see
the point in that right now because he's not like
in like deeply involved with someone right now storyline wise.

(45:30):
So I say, just give it to Xavier. Let it
be a feel good moment, especially if you're gonna go
to Zelena Rod with the Queen's side and just you know,
call it a night.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
This is such an interesting match to me because this
is the first time I can remember that the King
of the Ring in the in the at least recent past,
that we've had two baby vases in the finals where
it's not clear that a heel is going to win,
because this is a tournament just begging for a heel
to win, because of how it's been dealt with in
the past that it's you know, people playing pretend and
everyone's their stuffs and they're suddenly delusional that they're an

(46:01):
actual king or queen. But in this case, we have
two baby faces, and I think this one's actually fairly
easy to predict, and that's crazy, but I think Xavier wins,
and it's because not because I don't think Finn is
capable of winning. And actually when you look at where
he's been in the main event of the last pay
per view with Roman Reigns, and you know that he

(46:22):
is just a plug in main eventor this guy is
a future Hall of Famer, It's not that, but rather
a storyline that I think is going to start with
Xavier here at King of the Ring. This I believe,
and that this is this is again probably not going
to happen, but I want to go out on a
limb because it's fun and say that this is the

(46:42):
start of a heel turn for Xavier. And what I
think is going to happen is Xavier wins. Now how
he wins is going to be interesting to me because
if he flat out just pins Finn Balor like with
no help and it's just a flat clean win, that'll
be really shocking to me because of how they're the
pecking order of these two. I mean, you have Xavier
on this end and Finn Balor all the way over here.

(47:05):
I mean, like it's in terms of how they've been presented.
The believability of Xavier beating Finn clean, it's really not
exactly high, so it could be by hook or crook,
I don't think Xavier is going to cheat to win.
Perhaps somebody could come in and screw over Finn Balor
starting a program with him on the side, so that's
I think possible. But right now, I think Exavier wins,

(47:31):
maybe by maybe by distraction from Kobe Kingston or something,
and we have Xavier win and for a little while,
I think he'll come out and do exactly what you said,
just being a complete jokester. Everybody knows how I feel
about New Day, especially Xavier Woods in New Day and
in Kofe. It's not my favorite at all. It's actually
just cringe worthy the way they've acted the last six years.

(47:54):
But he's gonna come out and do his ridiculousness and
make as many puns as he can and inside jokes
as cannon breaking the fourth wall as he can, and
it'll be intolerable for a while. But but now, again
that's my opinion. I think that you're gonna have Xavier
maybe start to believe and start to believe in his
own hype, and where you know, you start to see

(48:16):
seeds being planted, of Xavier getting a temper with Kofe backstage,
there's a moment of that and then it just starts
to slowly evolve into Xavier getting fed up with being
the second fiddle or the third fiddle of the New
Day and the forgotten sun, so to speak of the
New Day, and he finally gets some attention on himself

(48:37):
and you know it's time for me to shine. You know,
you guys have both had your time, and I just
that's the role I want to see for Xavier. I'm
over this just six year run or seven year run,
whatever the hell it's been of just the constant pancakes,
although they've they've backed off on the pancakes, but just
the trombone. I can't stand that stuff. So I'm ready

(48:59):
for his an Xavier heel turn. And if this is
the start of the story for that, yeah, sign me up.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Welcome back to the WWE podcast. Let's get back to
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Speaker 3 (49:23):
Oh yeah, I would. I would definitely be here for it.
And now that's something that could be a slow burn,
and it could be a fun one on one match
with Cooking Xavier at WrestleMania, you know, have them have
a nice blowoff match there and have it leads there.
If you don't want to go that that long, maybe
like a royal rumbo or something you know, fun and
that's pretty you know, like pay per view wise, you know,

(49:43):
an upper grade level. And then while you have Big
Ee over there, you know whether or not he's still
champion at that top, but he's doing his own thing.
And then have them kind of you know, doing their
own thing, and then they can either have Big E
you know, interact with them to try to you know,
be the peacemaker, and then there's just so many different
things you can do with that going forward. So that
would be definitely be fun. So but it's a matter

(50:04):
of does WDE want to actually break them up and
are they committed to doing that, you know, because they
did the whole split with the New Day and then
they turned around and brought them right back all three together. Granted,
Kofi and Xavier back now are on SmackDown, so they
are separated again. But you know, it's just I feel
like a matter of time almost, So if they stick

(50:25):
with it, I'd love to see that. But part of
me just is doesn't think that they're actually going to
pull the trigger on it, But dude, I'd love to
see it. Yes, I think he could totally do it too.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Easily and at this point if WWE feels they haven't
gotten all the juice out of the squeeze of the
New Day for six or seven years, Like I mean,
I don't know what the merchandise sales are only they do,
but unless they are through the roof, I would argue
strongly against them staying together anymore. I mean, the Xavier
has proven he's a singles competitor. He had a great
match with Bobby Lashley inside Helen to sell themon and

(50:55):
at rom a number of months ago. He's shown he
can be a main event talent inside the ring, and
I think it's time that he just starts to get
that push and just get him out of the New
Day just funk that he's been in. It's just they've
been the same guys for the last seven years. Like
I think it's time to move on. I mean, we
need to tell you know, Big E that as well.

(51:17):
That's another topic. But yeah, this this is a This
is to me is Exavier's time, and I'll be I'll
be really disappointed if it's just him. You know, he
wins and then he's just joking about being a king
and making a thousand different ways to pun the word
king and you know whatever royalty for the next like
two months. Like, I'll be really disappointed if that is
really the goal is to make him an even more

(51:37):
of a comedy segment of winning the King of the
Ring and bragging about it and all that. Just that
will be the worst part of this. Like, if you're
gonna make this tournament have some kind of big payoff
for it, make it mean something other than just a
make it just like a comedy bit, like that'll be
really disappointing. If the payoff the whole thing is just
make Exavier more funny like that, that's a terrible way

(52:00):
to end the tournament if that's the only goal. But
I hope I'm wrong, and I hope it's the Heill turn.
So we'll see, okay moving up the ladder here into
the Raw Tag Team Championship RK bro versus AJ Styles
And again, take your pick on pronunciation Omas almost because
WWE doesn't know themselves. I've heard Corey Graves pronounce it differently.
I've heard AJ Styles pronounce it differently. On the same show,

(52:23):
Jimmie Smith pronounces it differently, So take your pick. I'm
gonna say Omas because whatever I'm as right as anybody else. Apparently,
maybe Omas should clear this up, but anyway, here, I'm
looking forward to this match, like really looking forward to
this match, and this may be the the tag team
match that I've been looking forward to the most out
of any tag team match in the last few years.

(52:45):
And not just because all three guys or all four
guys rather can really go in the ring. And I
even includes Omas, who plays his role very well. I
don't mean that he's on the same level physically and
athletically as the other three, but he plays his role
very well, and that team right now is very over.
I'm looking forward to this for a number of reasons.
Number one is how does Omas? How do they how

(53:08):
do they book him in this match? Does he finally
take a finish? I don't mean get pinned, I mean
just take a finish maybe the RKO. How does he
react to it? Does he sell it like the fiend
and just get right back up? You know? How does
that work? The chemistry between AJ and Randy's excellent. The
chemistry between Riddle and AJ is excellent. Really, the chemistry

(53:29):
between AJ and Pick Your Wrestler is excellent, So quality wise,
I expect nothing but like a B plus to a
minus or higher quality of a match, given that they
have hopefully like fifteen minutes or so. I do think,
though this is this is really tough. I still think
RK brow will retain because perhaps WWE is ready to

(53:54):
let Omas go his own way. If that, if they lose,
maybe that'll be the final straw and they decide to
break this team up and let Aj finally go off
on his own and do his own thing. I have
my doubts. I have my doubts given that RK BRO
really has only one team that is of their caliber
to work with, which is why they're continuing to work
with them. I mean, the next team down is what

(54:15):
the Viking Raiders, you know, I mean it's not great,
So I think this is gonna be a really good match.
Olmas is the X factor here. Everything they do seems
to be built around this guy. Riddle's always fun with Randy.
I still think they retain in what's gonna be I
think a very entertaining match. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. I think it's time.
I think they're gonna start. If this isn't it very
soon planting the Siege are just going full Thottle with
breaking Omas and ag sells up. Because I just I
think the singles division for the men men's division really
needs fresh challengers for like the championship picture, because you

(54:58):
have Big E who is he really in a face?
Going forward? You know, like you need to start building
challenges for him, regardless of how long you're going to
keep him as a champion. You need to start building,
you know, people to be champions. So I think they've
kind of run their course and it's been pretty good.
You know. I give them credit. They they lasted longer
than I thought they were going to. They they did

(55:19):
much better as a team than I expected. But yeah,
I don't see Agent and almost winning this like you
said that they It wouldn't shock me if they did, though,
just because the tag division is so depleted, especially on Raw.
So it's kind of like if they don't win, like
you said, like, who do they go to? I guess
it would be the Viking Raiders And they just made
their appearance on Raw, you know, like confronting Morrison. Yeah,

(55:43):
it's just I don't And by the way, it's just
so funny that like yoga is apparently like this foreign
thing and wwe like, I don't know, it's just it's
just our meditation. It's just I don't know, just just
funny that like no one seems to know what John
Morrison is doing back there or it's just like this
bizarre thing. But yeah, so I like you said, I
think Randy and rettal are going to retain here there.

(56:06):
There's still a lot left to get out of this team,
and I don't I don't think you want to have
them lose at Crown Jewel. I think if, if, and
when they do lose, you wanted to be here in
the stage or you know, like maybe on this side
of the world and just have it where it can
get a bigger reception, more emotional and reception to it
for you know, for that matter, and just have it

(56:28):
mean more. So Yeah, I think riddle and or routine here.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah, I think they do too. I mean again, the
case to be made for them to lose would be okay,
they want to They still need to have Almas sitting
under the learning tree of AJ styles. I don't mean
that in a storyline way. I mean that in like
real life that they still want AJ to be kind
of the mentor for Omas.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Yeah, well he can be a bodyguard, you know, like
he can be A's bodyguard. Like, they don't have to
turn on each other. They can just read refocus their
attentions on having a JB champion and have you know,
kind of like a Shawn Michaels Kevin ash diesual type thing,
like have just almost they're still there with AJ and
have the you know, the occasional tag match, especially when
they're doing like their live shows and stuff like that.
I still have them wots there, but you know, have

(57:12):
AJ doing this thing, but have them still together if
you need it, you know, it's just you don't have to.
This could be one of the rare times they don't
actually turn on each.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Other, which I mean, I'm fine with that. I actually
don't know if I want to see AJ versus Almos
right now because their chemistry is really good. But I
mean AJ is a Heill. The thing is AJ can
play any role. I mean, AJ's a baby face and
a hill. It's equally good. And that that is a
rare thing to have as a talent. Usually you're you
skew one way or the other. AJ is great at both.

(57:41):
But the thing, the only thing I would say to that, why,
I think that's a good analogy with like Kevin Nash
as the kind of the the bodyguard for uh Sean
michaels I just the way that w W has been
what they've been showing me over the last several months
with the Moss. They don't view him as a secondary guy.
They view him as a main event guy eventually, and
to have him be the bodyguard of AJ, I think

(58:03):
WW we look at that as a demotion. Even if
AJ's champion. Omas is still in the shadow of AJ,
so to speak, in their mind, I think that they
are looking to him to eventually have that big moment
with Brock Lesner or you know, Commander Disease. I don't know.
I mean, so like they view him as a main
eventor and I don't think that they think Omas is

(58:26):
just that guy that's going to be, you know, the
basically the doorman for Raw Underground, right Like, I mean,
he's he's come a long way from being the bouncer
at the door. Uh. And so that's why I don't
think it'll happen. But honestly, when you look at the draft,
I'm looking at it now just to make sure I
didn't miss another team. They do have the Street Profits
who have been drafted to Raw, so they do have that.

(58:48):
I mean, the Street Profits are probably the biggest tag
team on Raw outside of our k Bro.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
So I don't know, and that'd be fun, yeah, in
Street Profits.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Yeah, no, that would be a fun rivalry. I mean
there's no heel there, but uh yeah, that's fine with me.
I Mean, the tag team division on at every front,
on the men's and women's side is so thin, especially
the women's side doesn't even exist. They don't even have
a tag team division right now at all. Like I mean,
we have Shane rb Shan Bizer, we have Nikki and

(59:18):
Rhea going unopposed in the tag ting division because there
isn't one. It's it's absolutely insane. Just just dissolve them.
I mean I don't know that. That's a whole other topic.
Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, all right, let's move on. So
just to be clear, we're both going with our k
bro on this one to retain Okay, let's get to
here we go seth Rollins versus Edge Hell and in a

(59:38):
cell boy, this woof this one's tough at least in
my mind. But what do you think, actually.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Yeah, man, this one is tough because it's one of
those things where it's like this, Seth need to win
more than Edge, and like you think of since Edge
has returned, like his win and lost record, and like
does that even matter with someone like Edge and who
he is and all that everything, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
His legendary status, does that even really matter? But I
think it kind of does get to a point where
you know, like you don't want him losing all the
time or losing all the big matches, Like you want
to see him win one, especially when it's off for
the title, right, So is this it? Since he came
up with the match, Like is this his time to
to win the blowoff feud and then do whatever he's
gonna do after that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
But I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Think I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Seth on this one.
I think Seth needs this a little bit more, especially
with his history and hill in the cell matches. I
think he needs to pull. He needs to have a
good showing in this, and I think that I think
this is gonna be an excellent match. Like I think
this is like we were mentioning earlier, like the brutality
is going to be just out there with this, and

(01:00:52):
I know for that, I think that's why Seth needs
to win. I think Seth needs to go to that
dark place and just beat Edge in whatever that means
for Edge, if he goes away for a little bit,
you know, and then comes back again or what have you.
But I think if Seth loses, what does that mean
for him? You know, like he he is going to

(01:01:14):
be on raw now, So I think he would be
a fun to put it for, like a big ee.
So you don't want to beat down Seth, you know,
like you don't want to have him loose to Edge.
And this this big of a store because this has
been up there as well, you know, like everyone talks
about Brock and Roman, as they should, but this has
been a very good and drawn out story that's been
told over the past few months now. So I think

(01:01:37):
as much as I'd love to see Edge win this
because I'm obviously a big Edge fan, I think I'm
going with Seth.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Yeah, look this, I look at this match and I say,
not only who needs it more, but looking forward, who
can benefit long term the most from this and who's
going to be here more often? The answer Seth the
answer is Seth rollins And again, you're right, the Edge
can only take so many losses before it's like, all right,

(01:02:06):
this is getting a little much like Edge has lost
many more matches since he returned than he's won. And
I understand that even though he's a Hall of Fame talent,
he is in the give back portion of his career.
He knows that he's not here to make himself but
rather help new talent on top of vindicating himself and
ending the career he wants to the way he wants
to end it. But Seth right now, I think could

(01:02:30):
benefit more because if he wins, he can go off
on just this just Tie Rade about bragging about beating
Edge and how you know, he's one of the most
sadistic men in WWE, and he has no mercy for anybody,
and like he could really build off this, whereas if
Edge wins, it'll be cool for Edge to win for

(01:02:52):
a nostalgic feel. And I love Edge, I mean, he's
one of my favorites of all time. But if he wins,
I think that Damage is Seth more than it helps Edge.
And the reason is that they've done such a great
job building up Seth and Seth has done such a
great job building up Seth that if he loses this blowoff,
I think it's gonna take a lot of the steam

(01:03:14):
out of his words away and out of him being
a believable, credible heel, out of out of his sales,
so to speak. So I think Edge needs or it
doesn't need it as much as Seth, and I think
Edge will be not as beneficial as Seth would be
winning it, and it would hurt Seth a lot more
than Edge losing. Who if Edge loses, yeah, I'd be like, Okay, yeah,

(01:03:37):
that sucks to have and come back and lose so much.
But Edge is such good, so good on the mic
that he can talk you right back into believing him
like that. I mean, Edge is so so good on
the microphone, it's just stupid, it's unfair how good he is.
And saying that he's gonna scar the soul of Seth rollins,
that was a really cool visual that he put in
our brains, Like what does that look like? Like? What

(01:03:59):
is a soul being scarred look like? I mean, it's
just so masterfully done by by Edge. And he had
another level of intensity that was yelling and screaming but
there was like anger in his voice. It was just
it was so so good. They're promos. Both of them
knocked it out of the park on Friday night on SmackDown.
And so I think Seth wins simply because he needs

(01:04:22):
it more. He is more of the future than Edge is.
You know, Edge has more victories in his future. I
just don't think it's going to be this one. If
he wins, I'll be fine with it, but I'll also
be a little bit concerned for Seth.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
So, yeah, yeah, but brutality. Probably with some thumb tacks
or two. Uh, you know, maybe they'll find a way
out of the cell like sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't.
But yeah, this is gonna be one of those matches
that you go, the crowd's going to be going, oh,
like concern for the health and safety of these two individuals.
That's it's gonna be that kind of match. So I

(01:04:58):
all right, let's move on. Bobby Lashley versus Goldberg, no disqualification.
I'll take this one first. This actually, outcome wise is
it's actually a little difficult because Goldberg has already lost
technically to Bobby Lashley. But Goldberg is I think overstate

(01:05:22):
is welcomed by many many years. At this point, I
actually think, hmm, I think Goldberg's gonna win this, But
I think Bobby'll quickly get his heat back by beating
down Goldberg in front of his son, maybe because I
think they want the mystique of Goldberg, whatever's left of
the mistique of Goldberg, to still exist, because I don't

(01:05:43):
think Goldberg's done with done with w matches. And Lashly
said he wants to end the career of Goldberg, whereas
Goldberg literally threatened the life of Lashley, which I really
don't like. I've been on a rant about that. It
just makes no sense. It's the one thing you don't
talk about, one of many things like you don't talk
about death politics or like I forget the other thing.

(01:06:06):
But there's just certain like no nos. And Colberg not
only doubled down, he tripled down on saying he's gonna
kill Bobby Lashley. You're not going to deliver on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
That big deal? Yeah, go ahead, No, no, no, I
don't mean to cut up. But he's just making these
comments like he's going to kill gold or he's gonna
kill Lashly for what he did to his son. And
he's only gonna be happy if if Bobby's dead. It's like, dude,
like what like it doesn't it's not even logical, Like
I mean, I totally get it. Like if someone hurt

(01:06:37):
my family, you know, like i'd want to you know,
seek retribution, sorry, retribution on them as well. But like,
first of all, dude, like it was your son's fault,
Like no one's gonna talk about that, right, you can't
be but so mad? Okay, So yes, I would be
mad that Bobby didn't stop, like you can say something
for that, like okay, like but you know, like at

(01:07:01):
the end of the day, it was Gauge's as fault,
like it is what it is. So I get like
some parents may just wanna be blind to the fact
like oh, well, you know, I still have to defend
my son or whatever. But like I'm sorry, like yeah,
I would stand up for my kid. But like if
I saw he did something wrong, be like, yeah, dude,
like first of all, you shouldn't have jumped the barricade,
gotten into the ring and then attacked a dude who's
like five times your size, Like come on, man, like

(01:07:22):
you're lucky, like it stopped, like you know, like it's
just it is what it is. So it's just I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to cut you off, but it's just
like it's laughable. Like that's what takes me out of it.
Like if you wouldn't have said comments like that and
he would have just you know, like said whatever other
Goldberg sayings, you know, like you know, then fine, like
a good gudge match. Cool. For the second you said that, well,
I'm gonna kill lash, it's like, okay, well you're not,

(01:07:44):
so there's that, you know, or if you do, then
you'll be in jail. So then there's that too, So
then come on, what am I supposed to be lave here?

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
It's preposterous that you're gonna That's the one thing that
you don't talk about because you know one hundred percent
you're not gonna deliver on that. Especially as a babyface.
You can't say that because the fans go, yeah, well Goldberg, listen,
that's not happening, Like we all know that ain't happening,
so stop. And the thing is, it's not like he's
even using it as a figure of speech or some
kind of metaphor he's gonna kill him. He actually no,

(01:08:13):
he's saying no, I'm going to beat you with you
and beat you within an inch of your life, and
then I'm going to finish the job like that, you
are actually saying you're going to commit murder on national television,
on international television. You're gonna do that, like and Goldberg
rather Bobby Lashley at least made sense and said, you
know that, it's like you're I could charge you right now,

(01:08:35):
like this is criminal and it's true. You can't threaten
the life of somebody like that. I mean, you can
actually be put in jail, like you can't do that,
And so it makes no sense why they went this road.
It almost seems as if it's desperation to get attention
to this program, which is really what it smells like
is desperation. And to me, I think Goldberg wins so

(01:08:58):
that that way the babyface wins, they can end the program.
But Bobby Lashley gets his heat back by just trying
to injure Goldberg, and then Goldberg goes away for a
while based on that injury of Goldberg that he's suffered
at the hands of Lashley after the match, And I'd
also love to see Gage just like get to like
just completely demolished by Bobby Lashley. Like I want to

(01:09:19):
see him get speared by Bobby Lashley in front of Goldberg,
who's handcuffed to the rope. That's what I want to see.
That's what I want to see. After he's beaten down,
Goldberg's half conscious and he spears his son intentionally in
front of his dad. That's what I want. That's how
sick I am, and that's what I as a father too.
I want to see that. You know, you threatened my life,

(01:09:42):
Here's what I'm gonna do to yours. Right, Like, so,
I don't know, this is so weird. I don't expect
this match to last more than like seven eight minutes
tops under ten for sure, and which sucks because Bobby
Lashley is so good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
But yeah, well, and because this is a no holds
barred match. This is this kid go long. This obviously
isn't gonna be a short, regular short Goldburg batch. Right, So,
like you said, I think this goes at least like
nine ten minutes, and I think it's gonna be interesting
to see because you can't it's normally with Mattress like this,
like they try to like venture out into the arena
and do stuff like that, but I highly doubt they're

(01:10:17):
gonna go across the barricade and you know, fight in
front of y'all, you know, all those fellas out there.
So it's gonna be an interesting type of no holds
bar batch too, Like is it just gonna be a
mild version of they gonna try to, you know, like
fight up the ramp or you know, like or they
just if it's not even gonna be that big of
a deal and they're just gonna hit each other with
like of course, like kindosticks and like maybe like a

(01:10:39):
table or something like that. But I think that part
of me, like, do you do you think Gage is
actually gonna be there? Do you think he's gonna bring
him to spout Arabia like because he's he's mentioned like
Gauge being there, But like, I don't know if that's
like a real.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Thing, not unless he's there to just get beat up
by Bobby. I hope not. I mean, I just just
let's let's just just end this. Nobody wants Bobby Lashley
and this program with Goldberg, at least not anybody in
my knowledge. It'll be interesting to hear how the crowd
reacts in Saudi Arabia to Goldberg, you know, people that
may not know a whole lot about his history, that
may not have been fans when Goldberg was around and

(01:11:14):
hot in the late nineties. So I don't know. I mean, honestly,
I said this on my showed last night that whatever
reaction anyone gets in Saudi Arabia, I'm throwing it out
the window, Like I don't I don't care this because
it's not a typical reaction or the typical fan base
that is reacting to their product. It's this once a
year crowd that you never know what the hell are

(01:11:35):
going to do other than Cheerman sore, Like I'm honestly
throwing and tossing everything out the window. No one's traveling
from the United States to Saudi Arabia, Like very few,
if any people are going there from Well.

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
That's amazing with right now, especially like with the pandemic,
that they're even able to Like I was shocked when
they first announced that they were having to show this
year because I was just certain that, you know, the
pandemic and travel restrictions, like it wasn't gonna be a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
But I don't, you know, I mean, obviously I know
restrictions have ease and stuff like that. But I'm just
it's not like a quick trip. It's not even to
like Canada or you know, anything like that. That's not
terribly far they're going. It was like seventeen hours away,
like cross country. It's just like I mean, cross country
across the world. It's it's just like, I don't know,

(01:12:20):
I'm just shocked that they were able to do it
like that, like for like guidelines and like provisions and
all that crap wise, like they were even able to so.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Money money, money, money, ye, money will make people do things. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
True, it's all about that's all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
That's right. That's right. So anyway, yeah, the gauge please,
I mean, just don't show up. I mean, it's if
I was gold or if I was Bobby lash Ly,
I would have just said that, hey, look like you know, uh,
if your son is that dumb to get into the
ring with a guy like me when he's you know,
a tenth of my size, then that's more of a
reflection on you as a father that you would raise

(01:12:58):
a son that's stupid. I mean, like, I there's so
many things that could have done. I mean, like really,
and they just went with the narrative, Oh, well he
attacked my son, Well, your son was a dumbass who
got in the ring when he had no purpose in there,
no business in there to attack a guy who's fifty
times his strength and speed. What do you think he's

(01:13:18):
gonna do from with that? I mean, and again, oh
he's yeah, but he's so much smaller. Yeah, but how
do you know he doesn't have a weapon, Like you
want to start talking about real stuff, how do you
know that?

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Well, that's the point, Like that's the point with him
being so much smaller, you physically know, like when Bobby okay,
like let's say Bobby truly didn't know who he was
right when, and Bobby has I'm like he can feel
that he's not the advertise of a wrestler. So if
you were expecting a wrestler to be coming in in
there to save Goldberg, like, dude's much smaller, so it's
obviously not a wrestler. So it's like even more of

(01:13:47):
a reason, Like there's just i mean, obviously we're going
way too far into this then that they care, but
it's just like there's just so many things because like
Goldberg being a wrestler, he would know, no one jumps
the barricade and if you do, like you get what
you get, dude, like you exactly deserve.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
I don't know, it's not a deal, no, but it's
just but they drilled it into our head that we're
supposed to hate Lashly for this. I'm like, he didn't
just pull him out of a crowd, like I could
see if he was cheering for his dad at ringside.
And you know, deal with what brock Lezard did to Dominic,
which actually was hilarious in front of Ramisterio. I got that.
That was so much fun to see Dominic get destroyed
by Brock. It wasn't like that. I mean, it's not

(01:14:23):
like he wasn't unprovoked. He was physically provoked. It's self defense.
He got what he deserved, and I actually would argue
he should have gotten more. So anyway, all right, I'm misking, fine,
yes and fine, yeah, yeah, you're not a performer, you
don't belong there. You should be banned. Anyway. Let's let's
move on. Yeah, all right, Big E versus Jam McIntyre
for the WWE Championship. Ashley Boy, oh boy, if there's

(01:14:46):
one match to pick that has just one thousand percent
predictability on it. This is I think this one, but
maybe you have other thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Yeah, no, this is big Eie all day. He Yeah,
it's it's pretty cut and dry, like they just needed
a point of the Biggie and Drew's there, you know.
It's it's everything happening right before the draft or right
before the season premiere, I should say. So, you know,
I'm sure again it's gonna be a pretty good and
fun match. Obviously they can't get along, you know if

(01:15:17):
they're a tag team, but they still respect each other
when they're fighting against each other one on one. So
it's it's a weird dynamic there. But I think it's
gonna be a cool match, you know, it is what
it is. I'll be interested to see if Drew brings
out the sword to Crown Jewel or if that stays
backstage or it doesn't even make the flight to begin with.

(01:15:37):
So yeah, I think we saw what maybe fifteen eighteen
minute match, but I think Biggie wins just as he
should and moves on to whomever after and you know,
like not for nothing like it is. I am kind
of excited to see, like the season premieres of Ron SmackDown,
you know, next week coming after Crown Jewel, to see
like how the draft actually shakes off, because I think

(01:15:59):
it'd be cool to see who Biggie like actually like
goes into like a story with being the champion. So obviously, yeah,
I'm picking big Eie here, but I would be shocked
honestly if Drew one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Well, don't forget Survivors Series is next, so that's a
throwaway exhibition papers. Yeah, I know, like I said, except
for rumble Mania, King of the Ring tournaments, random times
that happens to no explanation, super shows, Yeah, except all that, Yeah,
no problem, It's it's just once a year. Yep. So yeah,
I think. I mean, if you're gonna ask me that,
I think it's probably Biggie and Seth Rollins is probably

(01:16:33):
the next big program for him. That's my guess. But
all right, who do I think is gonna win this?
I mean, it's not even it's not even close. This
is as predictable as it gets. It's Biggie who wins? Now?
Does he win clean? Does he win with help? I
think no. I think he flat out just beats Drew
and they try to really cement big Eie as a
legitimate champion, and Drew goes to SmackDown and slowly starts

(01:16:53):
his program with Roman Reigns. Potentially, we'll see if that happens.
You know, there's lots of different scenario was there, but
Biggie wins. There's really not much more to say about this.
I don't think Drew's turning heel even if it's a
bad You know, people have been saying, oh, well, he'll
lose and then pretend to shake his hand in Claymore.
I'm like, no, they don't want Drew turning heel. Going

(01:17:13):
to smack down with the megaheel of Roman Reigns. You
got to have a baby face to balance it, and
Drew is that babyface. So I think that in a loss,
Drew will still be a good sport. They'll shake hands
and hug. Although the relationship has been very bizarre over
the last few weeks where they act like great friends.
They've got secret handshakes that they do backstage. You know

(01:17:35):
they're they're they're laughing and joking, and then the next
thing you know, they're like shoving each other in the
ring for no reason, not not provoked and you know,
Drew Claymore's big Eie and then Biggie almost attacked Drew
this week. They've got such a bizarre on camera relationship.
I can't figure it out, but I think Drew or yeah,
Drew takes the pinfall here with the worst finish of

(01:17:57):
all time with the beg ending and Biggie retains. I mean,
there's really not much more to say about it. I
think it'll be a fine match. That's really it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Yeah, I agreed, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Last two matches here we've got. That's what I want
to talk about. The women's Here. Here we go the
women's match, because guys, they can now they can now
perform in front of an audience. They can perform, hopefully
in their normal ring attire, but if they're wearing you know,
like I don't know, like shower curtains, then you know

(01:18:27):
it's not going to be unexpected. So the smacked down
Women's Championship. Here we go. Triple threat, Bianca bell Air
versus Becky Lynch versus Sasha Banks Ashley who wins this?

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
This one is actually really hard, Like I don't and
it's honestly kind of confusing to me because I don't
know why exactly. It's just the SmackDown Women's Championship, like
the whole This is another reason why I like the
whole timing of the draft is so confus using, like
in how they do it, because it's just like it

(01:19:02):
doesn't it's it's probably been a mess to me. And
maybe I'm just like missing like I think I may
have missed a show and I just missed like a
trunk of information somewhere, But I don't know because and
like I truly don't know, because Bianca and Becky are
gonna be on Raw and Sasha is gonna be on
SmackDown right after the draft, like after Crown Rule.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Yes, so Charlotte goes to SmackDown, Bianca and Becky are
on Raw.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Yeah, and Sasha stays on smack Yeah. So you would
think Sasha would win since she's staying on SmackDown and
Becky and Beyonc are gonna be on Raw, But then
we still have Charlotte with the Raw Women's Championship on SmackDown.
So I don't It's just it's one of the I

(01:19:52):
need to write it down so I can process everything,
and the kind of like maybe draw arrows to see
who who's gonna end up. It's just it's one of
those things that just shouldn't be this complicated, right, Like
it should be in this another reason with the draft, right,
like they need to have fundamental rules with the draft
because like to where like maybe champions don't get drafted

(01:20:13):
or it's just there's something to prevent this cluster because
I've like part of me is like, well, logic and
common sense would say, you saw she would win since
she's going to remain on SmackDown, and then maybe they'll
have like an impromptum match with Charlotte and either Charlotte
and Becky or maybe a triple throw with Charlotte, Becky
and Bianca and have either Becky and Bianca win to

(01:20:34):
beat Charlotte, so that gets the raw championship off of Charlotte.
But then it makes me think that back to what
was it last year when the I I think it
was the New Day and the Street Profits. Yeah, they
just swap titles.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Ye, that's what it should be.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
That's why I'm saying here, like damn in mine, idiot
for putting all this thought into like maybe they should
do this Sasho win here so they can do blah
blah blah, and and they're just gonna have Becky retain,
you know, so she doesn't take a lass and then
they'll just swap the titles or it's just it's one
of those things where it kind of makes me conflicted

(01:21:11):
as a fan because like I really want to care,
Like I'm really wanting to put like all this energy
and thought into like, oh, this would totally make sense
if if Sasha wins, because like I said, Sir, I
can loost it beck your fianca blah blah blah. And
then I just kind of feel foolish because I'm like you,
they probably don't even care. They probably haven't even put
this much thought into it. So that's why I'm torn,

(01:21:32):
you know, I'm sorry, go.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Ahead, nope, And they are counting on us as fans
who they believe have you know, a room temperature IQ
to not go beneath the surface and just go just
take us at face value, don't dig too deep. It's
a championship match. Don't look at the possibilities and the
implausibilities and and things that just simply don't make sense
that you're that we're doing. Just look at it as

(01:21:56):
it's a great it's a great uh women's triple threat
for this back women's Championship and whoever you like, that's
who you should want to win. Like they are looking
at this and just hoping that we don't dig beneath
the surface. Unfortunately, it's really difficult to not dig beneath
the surface because there's so many things that just don't
make sense. Really has to even lead the lead up

(01:22:16):
to this, like why is Bianca getting a wrong Women's
Championship match on Raw number one? If she wins it,
she's saying she's gonna be a double champion. Well, how's
that gonna work? If you are on Raw with the
smacking Women's Championship. It's a championship that's exclusive to the brand.
So what are they gonna do if you're a double champion?
Are you're gonna be able to float? Can you not float?
You have to give up a belt? They just they

(01:22:38):
make this unnecessarily complicated to and I know what they'd say.
They would say to me, you're making this complicated, and
it's just to me, No, I'm not. I'm thinking about
this in a logical storyline perspective, from A to point
B to point C, and I shouldn't have to overthink this,
but as a fan, you want this to make sense.
But they have competitors in here, in scenarios that you're like, wait, wait, wait,

(01:23:00):
wait wait, how can you have brand exclusive paper, brand
exclusive championships with star exclusive talent that maybe carry over
the championship to a brand that they're not on, Like
there's it's it's insanity.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Yeah. And you know, first of all, my response if
they were to say, like to me franchance, like oh,
you're putting too much sign to this and you're not
thinking the right way, Like okay, well, explain to me,
what was your thought process behind this when you looked
at Okay, Crown Jewel, we're gonna have this match, and
the story leaning up to it is gonna be this.
Explain to me, please, because I would love to see
where I missed a segment or an interview or a

(01:23:37):
match or something that laid all this out and I
can be like, damn, you know what, I am so wrong,
I'm sorry, I missed that. My bad. I would totally
I would love to see that, but it's just not there, dude.
It's just it's just not And that's why it's so
frustrating because like it could be this could be like
so cool, this could be like a really monumental match,
Like it could be like and all this story bus

(01:23:59):
to this thought, like these women are and this isn't
their fault, Like this isn't them at all. This is
the creative that has that they're forced to portray. So
this isn't the talent themselves, right, because this match is
I'm sure with the talent involved, it's gonna be amazing,
you know what I mean, Like these aren't slouches in
the ring by any mean, Like this is gonna be
an awesome match. And that's what's so frustrating. It's like

(01:24:23):
because you know, like even the story didn't even have
to be this complicated. It could have been something so
basic and it takes you all the way back to
becky'r returning to begin with. So it's just it's just
one of those things. And that's and that's that's why
it's frustrating to me. So I'm I say all this,
but I'm I'm gonna give them the benefit of the
doubt here and as much as I could be wrong,

(01:24:45):
since they just had Becky lose as well on SmackDown.
I'm gonna go with Sasha winning here. I'm gonna go
with Sasha Banks winning the Yeah, winning the title that
gets the correct HI on the correct show, because it's
easier to have because I don't it's as much as

(01:25:06):
and if I'm wrong about this, I'm I'm really gonna
be probably hurt to my to my core. But I
think that for all their faults, and it's not that
this makes this right by any means, but I think
that they viewed the women's respective singles titles, I hate
to say it, but more importantly in a higher regard
than they do like the tag titles. So I don't

(01:25:27):
see them just swapping them. I I just I can't
believe that they would they would do something like that.
So I'm gonna say Becky loses here, and I think
it'll be something like they hit their finishers and Becky's
gonna go for the pinfall, but then Sasha pushes her
out of the way at the last second and kind
of steals the victory that way, So you still have

(01:25:49):
kind of like a way out because since it's a
triple threat as well, there's there's no rules, right, no DQ,
so anything can really happen. So yeah, so that that
gets the smiked dow On title back on wrong and
then I could see, like I said, Becky or Bianca
like fighting Charlotte because they're gonna have to get the
title off of Charlotte as well at some point. So
I think they're gonna have another match either on Raw

(01:26:11):
or or I guess it would have to be wrong
because I don't think there's another show until Survivor Series,
which isn't until next month, which I'm not even sure
the exact date of that, but.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
I don't know either.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
But yeah, yeah, man, I, like I said, this is
probably another one we've we've put more thought and time
into than they really have. But and I could be
completely wrong. It could be a quick as Becky retains
and they move on in five minutes. But and I
hope they do it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
No, No, And that in of itself, what you just said,
that we put more thought into it than they have,
that in of itself is the problem. Like they haven't
gone this deep or cared to go this deep, or
think it's not worth going this deep to make sure
this makes sense. And that's why they would project on
us that we're thinking too much. You're you just enjoy
the product, You're you're ruining it for yourself. You're overthinking it. No,

(01:26:57):
us overthinking it, us getting frustrated with the logic being
not not even a factor. Here is a reflection on
you not doing your job. That's exactly what this is
is WWE and Creative and Vince who are just not
willing to put the effort in to make sure the
draft is clean. It makes sense there are rules that

(01:27:17):
are adhered by instead just making this mish mash of talent,
you would think, like.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
It's harder to be this can convoluted. Then it would
be to just be like all right, A, B and C,
Like yep, it's just I don't know, dude, don't mean
to c off, but I just feel like it's just
like it gives you. It kind of makes you stressed out,
how jumbled this is when it could really be so
simple because it makes you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Feel stupid, like it makes you like, wait, well wait
am I missing something? Like why are I here? Did
they explain why this person's here? But instead they want
to have their cake and eat it too, where they
want all the talent on the show, even though it's
the season premiere of SmackDown last week or whatever, which
makes no sense because I told this the season premiere
is after the Crown Drew pay per view, but that's
neither here nor there. They just have talent on here

(01:28:03):
for no reason who are challenging for championships that for
the brand that they're not going to be on. They're
making this that they want to be able to make
the biggest match possible without adhering to any kind of
logic and thinking that having the biggest match possible is
the most important thing, instead of making sure that it
makes effing sense and that things are clean and easy
to understand. Of Okay, if so and so wins, this

(01:28:26):
is going to happen. If this person wins, this is
going to happen. Instead, we're still left to go, well,
I don't know who to really root for here, because
I don't know how this is all going to pan out.
Like this is super confusing, and you're right, like if
Charlotte ends up on while she isn't ending up on SmackDown,
I don't think she's going to lose the Raw Women's
Championship anytime soon unless they do some kind of like

(01:28:48):
you said, match after Crown Jewel. But then that would
shoot the whole thing down that this is the season premiere.
They just told us the brand draft. The drafts go
into effect the day after Crown Jewel, So how are
they going to have a match between Charlotte and say,
I don't know, Bianca, whoever's on Raw to transfer the
belt and that would be the most predictable outcome of

(01:29:09):
all time too, like, oh well, they're clearly having this
to transfer the belt. So I honestly think all that, which.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Is why Beianca should have won this past Monday on Raw.
She should have been Charlotte to begin with, because that
would have defeated this whole thing like it would.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Have it would act that actually would have solved things
because then Bianca would have been she's drafted Raw, She's
the Raw Wins champion, and then you could have had
Sasha Banks, like you said, win and there you going.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
Away, I honestly with not not to I know this
has nothing to do with Raw, but I was just honestly,
so they got me like the amount of time and
the hype and the fact that it was the main event,
Like I was like, oh wow, this is and once
I realized that it was actually getting into be like
a pretty good match. It's like, oh, wow, this bean
is probably going to win here. Like once I really
started thinking about it, like it would make sense, like

(01:29:53):
she's going to be here, blah blah blah. Like it's
just I thought about it, I was like, Yo, this
this is actually very logic and it would be very
a cool moment because you know, like it's like I said,
the main bent and would be a good moment for Bianca.
You know, like what a year she's had. You know,
this is just another accolade to add to that, and
it's just the DQ man, and it's just like you
just feel stupid. I literally felt stupid because I made

(01:30:16):
it a point to stay awake to watch the end
of it, and I was like, you know what, I'm
gonna see this through because I was really looking forward
to it. And you know what, they just like kind
of slacked me in the face with that ending. And
I get it, right, like you don't. They're trying to
protect everyone, but it's like, you know, like if wins
and losses don't matter in one hand, then why do
they in the other. So it's just frustrating.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Well, yeah, that that certainly is another topic too, is
wins and losses. But I yeah, look, I think here's
what's gonna happen. After all that, I still have to
give my prediction. I do believe that Becky Lynch will retain,
and I think it's going to be a straight title swap, Like,
I mean, that's what I believe. I know what you're thinking.
I know, I know why you don't think it's gonna happen.
But to me, that's because I think they'd want Charlotte

(01:30:58):
as a champion on SmackDown and they can't have a
raw women's champion who is a SmackDown star. So I
mean that's why I think it's gonna be a straight
title swap between Becky and Charlotte. And then they're gonna
go off programs.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
They're just gonna like hand the titles over here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
I don't think it would be like, you know, like
they did it with The Street Profits and New Day.
I think they'll they'll have some kind of ceremony or
something and and I mean I don't know, like ity'll
find a way to do it or maybe they'll just
show up that like it'll be just on Twitter, like
they're just gonna say, you know, due to circumstances of
the Raw women's champion being on Championship being on SmackDown,

(01:31:34):
and vice versa, Becky and Charlotte last night had a
you know whatever, like I could see them just doing it,
like not even on the show. It's just transferred. They
show up on each show with the belt and that's
how it happens, Like I could, I tell you, I'm
telling you, I'm telling you so. Oh lord, all right,

(01:31:54):
well this is gonna this is gonna be very interesting.
Now I'm now very interested to see how this all
pans itself out. Oh my goodness. All right, let's see
here the main event, Roman reigns brock Lessner Ashley.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Go ahead, this one man, This this is something else.
This is something else. And I again I every time
I talk to you, Matt, and every chance that I get,
I will praise Ponytail brock. I just I love the book.
It cracks me up every time, and especially that he's

(01:32:29):
a baby face down, he can smile like he's just
like he could be a little bit more animated and
just like get into who he is as the Brockle
wasn'er character, which is like weird to say, because like
you don't really think of Lesnar having a character, but
you know, like who he is, so it's just man
like it just it just I love it. I absolutely
love it. So that's why selfishly, like I would love

(01:32:53):
to see this whole thing play out with him and
staying on the Roman rains aside and like have been
telling the truth in regards to being you know, with
Roman and not having anything to do with Lesnar and
Lesond just be having been playing my games this entire time,
just because I want to keep seeing babyface brock. You know,
I want him to have the ponytail going on, like

(01:33:15):
I don't. I don't want him to change. Like I
love this guy, like I've always been a fan of his,
but this is just like I don't know what it is.
I just between that and the flannels and his little
belt buckle, it's just cracks me up. And it's amazing
because he looks like that and he can still just
kill you in thirty seconds, you know what I mean.

(01:33:35):
So it's just it's amazing. So this, of course, this
whole story is in my opinion, the thing that's been
carrying to WB. It's just Remarines himself is just it's
amazing to see the development and just how just untouchable
he's been this past year plus now at this point.

(01:33:56):
That's why I don't think that they take the title
off of him. I think that they that roomin retains
here is again, especially with it being at this event,
I don't I don't think they would do something of
that monumental, which is in my opinion, what it would
be at this point for Rains to lose the title.
I don't think they would do that here. I think
they would do that at a bigger event. So I'm

(01:34:18):
going with Rains retaining here. And I don't think we
get a final resolution on where him and resides either.
I think something happens where he's going to interfere and
maybe it backfires on both room and Lissners. So it's
kind of still unclear on who he was trying to help.
I think maybe something like that, and like USA's then
come out and I see it kind of being like

(01:34:40):
a convoluted mess like that, or but I see it
being like a clean victory too. Is maybe it's not
so much on that. Maybe I'm kind of as much
as I'm saying that now, rather like I'm kind of
fifty to fifty on that, Like, I don't, I don't
know if you want to cleanly pin Brock here, and

(01:35:00):
I don't think you know, as I'm talking it all,
I don't think it'd be that big of a deal.
As much as I just cracked on the TKI finished
from raw, I don't. I don't think it'd be as
crazy to have a DQ finish here. I don't know
that the way this match ends, I'm maybe a little
unsure of, but I see Rains retaining as the champion.

(01:35:24):
This is going to continue. I don't see this being
a one and done type thing. And I don't also think,
like I said, we get a resolution on where Hyman resides.
I think it just either I don't, I don't know.
I don't know. And that's what's cool about this, Like
it's not really a clear vision of how it's going
to play out. And that's obviously kudos to him in

(01:35:45):
as well, because he's just everything he does, like the
simplest things, like the simplest like posts and tweets that
he sends out to just like the little comments he makes,
the facial expressions. It's just everything. So long story short,
Roman retains here, but the way it plays out is
very difficult to determine.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Yeah, that is the whole story here. I don't think
there's too many people who think Brock could win, which
is crazy to think that Brock Lesner doesn't have a
chance in this match, because it's Brock freaking Lesner. I
think this is the biggest threat Roman has had to
his championship so far. I mean, I could see a
slight chance of Brock retaining or retaining winning and then

(01:36:25):
Hayman aligning himself, and it's a clear cut Hayman was
playing Roman all long. That's a slight chance. I don't
think that that's gonna happen because to me, this is,
like you said, I think this is the beginning, not
the end of this story, Like this is just another
step to the ultimate payoff, which will eventually realize. I
think eventually it's gonna be Roman getting screwed by Paul

(01:36:46):
Haman and Paul Hayman was truly with Brock the whole time,
that's my guess. And when that's gonna play out and
have its binale probably gonna be a while, maybe all
the way to WrestleMania for that matter. It's gonna be
a while, but this is gonna be like you said,
it's gonna be up to the interpreter to decide who
Paul Haman is trying to help. A scenario I'm thinking

(01:37:09):
in my head is both guys are down, maybe a
double closed line, or they're just both exhausted. It's the
fourth quarter of the match. Paul Haman grabs the championship
and tosses it to in the middle of the ring,
trying to get to Roman, but maybe accidentally gets too
close to brock Lesnar. Brock Lesnar hits Roman reigns with
the championship, inadvertently helping brock Lesner, and while Brock's not

(01:37:34):
gonna win, Roman can come back to that and say,
you know, you know, listen wise Man, you know I
want I want you to be straight up here, and
that kind of thing again, leading Roman to distrust Paul
Hayman a little bit more. I think that's the only
way that you could one of the scenarios that could
happen where like you said, unintentionally helps Brock but is

(01:37:56):
plausibly trying to help Roman. And that's one example. But
Roman does retain. I think Paul Hammond has a big
part in that in that match in terms of the
storyline of how Brock loses this and it's gonna be
I think, again, a very very good match. These two
have had. I don't know how many matches now, it

(01:38:17):
seems like five or six at this point, but they
work so well together. I'm not complaining, and it's been
a while. I yeah, it does. And I think it
also feels fresh because Roman is not in the tired
baby face role. He's in one of the best possible
roles he's ever He's in a career defining role right now.
He doesn't feel forced. He feels very natural. And I

(01:38:39):
loved the hilarious line he gave Brock on SmackDown saying,
are you some kind of dumbass like not not looking
at the contract and just signing it. I found that hilarious,
the way that yeah, like and he said it so genuinely.
It was just it's.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Something like your natural reaction. I'm sending it like you're you,
You're normal human being. It'd be like, yeah, he's just
signed a contract without reading it, Like, yeah, that's something
we would say, and thank you dude, Like you're actually
saying something that's completely obvious and not like not rocket science.
It's like you're a dumbass, like that is something that

(01:39:16):
you would say, like especially your your opponent, like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
He's some kind of dumb ass. It was one of
the its just the way he said it, and he's
looking rock dead in the face, because yeah, like, who
is that stupid to just not look at a contract
and sign it? Uh? It was, it was, It was great.
I loved it and having these two in the ring.
You know what kind of match you're gonna get. It's
gonna be. It's gonna be just I mean, hard hitting.

(01:39:39):
It's gonna be just a classic, I think, and I
think that the end is going to be a very
Paul Hayman determinive ending with Roman reigns retaining. But it's
not gonna come without questions of well, Paul Hamon could
have been helping Brock here, even though plausibly he could
deny it and say, well, no, no, my tribal chief,
I was trying to do this and Paul Hammond calling

(01:40:01):
he won't even say Roman. I love how it refers
to him as his superior title of my tribal chief
and he actually like, welld Up tears a couple of
weeks ago on SmackDown. It just it's so good, it's
so good. So I think that Brock loses. But this storyline,
I think it's far from over. I don't know when
Brock and Roman is going to happen again. Some people
have pointed to WrestleMania. We'll see, but this is to

(01:40:24):
me part one of this storyline.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Yeah, and that's it's interesting that you bring that up
because I think and it's crazy. I think that like
it's pretty much time to start thinking about WrestleMania, right
because Survivor Series is kind of like this semi like
the preseason I guess you would say, like or you know,
just like just the kind of the warm up season
and then like because you got Rumble right after that,

(01:40:49):
and then it's go time pretty much. So it's it's crazy.
I think like as we get closer and closer, like
I just I don't know about you know, like with
the Rock and all that, you know, talk and everything
like that, because if it's not The Rock, you know
which I do, you think it has to be Survivor
Series the Rock with debut and if not there then

(01:41:10):
it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
I actually don't. And here's the thing. I just had
my weekend review and I talked with one of my
co hosts and I said, I do not believe that
the rock is going to be here this year, and
it's it's there's a new report falling around that Rock
is actually not going to be available this year to

(01:41:31):
the movie like filming schedule. He's going to be in
Australia during Survivor Series. He's not going to be able
to make it this year, and they're pointing more towards
next year WrestleMania thirty nine in LA that he would
actually face roland Race. That's true, So that was folding
around now. I don't know how much credibility to the
rest of that. The Rockets still show up at Survivor
Series and then we're off to the races with Rock

(01:41:52):
and Roman. I would hope they pull the trigger this year,
because who knows what the landscape's going to look like
next year. Maybe they end up turning Roman baby face
and they'd don't have the patience for it. I mean,
eighteen months from now, everything could be different. The bloodline
may not exist, Roman may not be as hot of
a heel, like, I hope that they do it this year,
given that the iron's hot strike now, because who knows

(01:42:13):
what next year is going to look like. But that's
the latest, is that the rock is actually not available
this year. That's but you know, take that with a
grain of salt.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
So yeah, and that's why, and that's why I think, like,
like we were just saying that this is just the
beginning for Room and in Brock, I think like it's
I don't want to say it's a safe bet, but
like when Lesner does lose here, which again it's so
crazy to think about and to actually say, but my opinion,
when Lesler does loose here, and it's it's not going

(01:42:43):
to be shocking, right like, because that's kind of how
how Lesner has been portrayed these past, you know, handful
of years. He's going to go away for a while.
So I can see him going away until the Royal
Rumble and being a surprise entrant there may be winning
or maybe being I don't know, I don't know, maybe
he would win, and then that that would be the
way he would get back to Roman and then they
can just resume that going from there. I just think

(01:43:04):
that that would be an easy way. If they're uncertain
with anything else, that would be another easy go too much,
because while this is happening on Thursday, a lot of
people aren't gonna see it and or hold it really
to that high a regard regardless of what happens. Unless
Brock wins and you know, like it's this big deal,
you know, then they may be upset, you know, that

(01:43:25):
whole another thing at that point. But if things just
kind of play out kind of you know, like just
if it's more of a story and just like like
we were saying, Paul him and focus and Roman retains,
I think that they could easily get away with Lesnard
disappearing until after Survivor series, maybe around Rumble and then
just going from there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
Yeah, there's no no shame in that. And we don't
expect Brock to be there. I mean even once a month.
We're like, oh, cool, Rock's gonna be here this month.
Like I mean, we we know what kind of schedule
Brock has built into. And it's his character right now,
like you said, his character is, it's all it's not
a character. This I believe is who Brock is. It
looks like he just I mean he drove off his farm,
got on a plane and showed up at the arena.

(01:44:04):
I mean he's in his home clothes. It feels like
I'm not well. Yeah, like seriously, and and then just
didn't talk to the uber driver the whole time and
just told him to shut up. I don't want to talk,
like I mean, yeah, like, I'll be in the back.
Do not talk to me, you know, like that's that
That's that's brock leasure. And that's what I love about
the guy, uh, because I can relate to do a

(01:44:26):
lot of it. But I think that Brock lesser. I mean,
I'm not a fan of the ponytail. I'm actually to me,
it's to me. I know, you love it. I know
a lot of people love it. I think it's he's
just too old to be doing it. I know that.
But at the same time I appreciate it of just
like Brock does whatever the hell Brock wants to do,
and no one's going to say anything about it. And
what's hilarious is too that Brock even said that in

(01:44:48):
his promo short promo a couple of weeks ago, that
you know, brock Lester does what Brock lesser wants to do.
It's it's it's it's the truth. There's no story to that. Yeah,
he shows up how he wants, He grows his hair
how he wants. Vince doesn't say boo about it. I
guarantee you. He just shows up and his like his
like you said, his is cut off sleeve, plaid shirt.

(01:45:09):
He comes in his cowboy bullets, his jeans. I mean,
this is just Brock.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
And I can see him maybe having one carry on bag,
just one duffle bag with him and just literally like
that's how he got into a zubercar with his double bag.
Like you said, he left his farm in that attire,
had his duffle bag in case he needed to change
or anything like that. And I'm sure like he probably
he's probably flying back that night too. And that's the
craziest thing, Like it probably is just like his personal belongings,

(01:45:35):
you know, so like you know, he has somewhere to
play when he has to go to the ring, like
just for I'm just I'm sorry just for stuff like that.
So oh, it's just and I think that's why I
love the ponytail, because like you said, it's just Brock
not giving a you know what and just being Brock,
you know so, and it's it's reflection because not many
guys in WB are like that. So that's why, in

(01:45:56):
my opinion, I appreciate Brock so much work because who
knows how much longer will have him because there's a while,
like he wasn't even signed, right, so I don't know,
Like it's it's the as the years pass, like I
feel like we're winding down on Brock and then who
do we have?

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
You know, I know the Brock is He's a he's
a once in a generation star. We have to appreciate
every time that we see Brock lessner. I know there
was a time when we're all tired of seeing him
as champion. He's an absentee champion and this and that,
like we need to appreciate it. Just like when the
Undertaker was getting close to the end of his career,
a lot of us were saying, oh my god, no
more matches, Taker, please, please please, And now we're saying, oh, man,

(01:46:30):
I kind of missed the Undertaker on you know, on TV.
I wish he would come out and do something, you know,
say something, do something. Not that we want matches from Undertaker,
but sometimes you don't appreciate it until it's gone. I
think that's a lot of life, a lot of times
with everything that you don't appreciate it until it's gone.
But brock Lessner, I think he's got a couple of
years I think left in him, and you know, that'll
be fine. I'm fine with just a couple more matches

(01:46:52):
out of him and WrestleMania type deal, Rumble type deal,
and obviously these special events that he's getting paid many
many many zeros on that check to be at. That's
that's uh, that's the brock Lesser Wayne, Like you were saying,
that's exactly what I was thinking, is well, everyone else
is gonna get stuck there probably for another day or
two or whatever. On the the flight that they have booked.

(01:47:13):
Brock Lesner has probably booked his own charter flight back
like immediately following that show, where he's got this private
jet already set up to be back in the United
States by like, you know, the next day.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, he probably doesn't even sure. He's
probably just like there's a quick change in the back,
let's go. Probably, you know, he just wants to get
back and be done.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
That's that's a that's a long flight for someone who
doesn't like to travel already, that's a long flight, it is, but.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
He'd probably sleep through most of it because on the
way back, you know what I mean, So like he's
this is this is hilarious. I just love camera.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Oh whish they would do some type of like just
what was it, like the Deity day of like for Brock.
I would. I would pay so much. I would pay
my annual subscription for Peacock.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
I would to see that. I would too, just just
to see. But the reality of it, I don't want
it produced. I want footage follow him through the airport,
see how he deals with people, like yelling at him,
like trying to come up to him, just like I would.
I want to see brock Lesner in that scenario they have,
they haven't done it, to my knowledge of anything like
that with Brock, and I think there's a reason for that.

(01:48:19):
They don't want their stars to be I guess, portrayed
as unapproachable or that they don't like people, or because
there's you know, that's the opposite of what we tries
to portray. So it just brock Lesner is his own
entity and it's I just love everything about the guy.
Even when he's heel. He's the same guy essentially, except
he can smile right now. So god, this is but

(01:48:41):
this match is gonna be really good. But you and
I are in lockstep with this. That Roman Reigns retains,
but it's there's gonna be a lot of Paul Hayman
in terms of the finish here, and there's gonna be
a lot of question marks even though Roman Rerans retains
of who he was really trying to help. That's gonna
be the story coming out of this, I think. So yeah,
all right, well this this is gonna be a fun

(01:49:03):
pay per view. I'm not gonna be able to actually
watch it live, at least for part of it. I mean,
I have to quote unquote work my big boy job.
But I know some of you will be able to
a lot of most of us are going to probably
watch it on demand after the fact. But yeah, this
should be a good show. I mean, I know that
I kind of poop pooed on it a little bit
at the beginning, but I think that you have some
really solid matches, some really solid storylines. You have some

(01:49:26):
convoluted ones, but ultimately this is going to be pay
per view that there's gonna be a lot to talk
about on the background.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad it's finally here and happening so
we can finally just kind of move on and let
the draft play out and just kind of see how
everything unfolds and just kind of go from there.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Definitely, So, Ashley, thank you so much for being here.
Before you leave. How does everyone get in touch with
you if you want to share it? Maybe your Twitter?

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
Yeah, of course, thank you so much for having me.
I'm feel free to follow me on Twitter at ash
m a n s.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Very good, very good. And Ashley, we'll have to have
you on soon. And again, I have no idea when
Survivor series is. I'm assuming it's like a four week span.
I mean maybe right the week before Thanksgiving is.

Speaker 3 (01:50:06):
My guess, but oh yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
Yeah, So we'll definitely have you on then, if not sooner.
And I know you occasionally pop on with Mimi on
the AEW Dynamite review that people love, So if anybody
wants to hear more of Ashley, you can at least
count on pay per views, but maybe even maybe even
sooner than that. So indeed, all right, thanks so much, Ashley,
have a good night.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
Thank you too much.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
Ye