Mailbag #258: Listeners React to CM Punk's Dog Passing, John Cena's Retirement Match, Final Survivor Series Thoughts

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre, and you're listening to
the WWE podcast show.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
The one that everybody wants me is god st three
sixteen sod just with your ass is my eye.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
You're gonna acknowledge me.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey, everybody, welcome to the mail bag. It is Thursday, Yes, Thursday,
December fourth, twenty twenty five. I'm drinking it a day
early today because I'll be out of town tomorrow, so
I want to get this in. But if you send
your email or your voicemail, I will combine that on
my weekend review show on Sunday. So don't feel like

(00:55):
you missed out. If I'm not reading your email or
I'm not responding to any voicemail you sent here tonight,
that just means, uh, you get to hear it on Sunday.
All right. So I hope everyone had a great week.
And we are heading into December here deeper and deeper
as we count down the days to John Cena's retirement,

(01:15):
which is in nine days. Unbelievably, it comes to us
in nine nights in Washington, d C. At Saturday Night's
main event. And it's gonna be fun and it's going
to be certainly an emotional night. From what I understand,
John Cena is gonna he wants to go on first
so that he can fulfill his promise of making sure

(01:38):
that the focus is on the future, which I'm kind
of I don't want that about that night, like that's
your night. I mean, I know he made it this
entire year about himself, which is so funny to say.
I mean, that's another argument for another day about if
John Cena, you know it is a bit of an
arcissist or not. I mean, it's not really what, of
course Saturday is about. But when you look back at it,

(02:00):
you spend a whole year stringing this out and absorbing
all the thank yous, and you know, in a lot
of ways it's deserved. He is one of the biggest
stars of all time. But I really do wish on
Saturday that he would go on last. I don't care
about the future for one night, I mean, for us,
one more time to say goodbye to John Cena for

(02:21):
real when it comes to in ring wrestling, not of
course television, future documentaries, future WrestleMania appearances, which he will,
as I've outlined many times he will, but as far
as an in ring match. If that's it, then I
certainly would like it to be the last match of
the night. It would be the lasting image. I mean,

(02:42):
if a John Cena retirement match isn't the main event
of a Saturday Night main event, I mean, I don't
know what you could put in that spot, right But anyway,
we'll get to all of that in the preview build
up to it next week. Big big big week next week,
huge huge week. I'm sure there's going to be specials
and tributes and interviews. I mean they're probably going crazy

(03:06):
right now backstage with stuff we're not even seeing for
future documentaries and everything else, and backstage reactions and all
the likes. So quite a special week next week. If
you're a wrestling fan for Johnsena's retirement, if you'd like
to join us over at Patreon and go add free
good week to do it. We'll have all of your
reviews and reactions here previews as well for Saturday Night's

(03:29):
main event over at patreon dot com slash WWE podcasts.
So today's the mailbag, though, which means we get to
hear from you. We get to hear your thoughts, your reactions,
and I have a sneaking suspicion that a good many
of these may be my reaction that I had to
see on Punk's dog dying, which I kind of had

(03:50):
a feeling most would not share my affinity for just
not crying my eyes out over it, not golad voting
in his pain, just simply not participating in the complete
just shock and awe and just a lot of foe
sadness and a lot of people that have family pets

(04:12):
that can relate and and I understand that, but the
shock and outrage and just the people actually telling me
to kill myself. I'm not even joking. There's been a
few of that, some of that on Twitter, which is
quite amazing because I know what kind of person I've
tapped into, the type of people that are sending me
this kind of stuff, and I mean, they just fit

(04:34):
the bill for what I thought i'd get. And it's
been everything and more. It's evolved into other topics because
it has to, because the reasoning that I feel the
way I feel, it goes deeper. And I even got
into a little bit of a spat with a well
known some a well known streamer Wheezy. I'm sure you

(04:55):
guys know are the blonde, right, So you know, I
don't really agree with a lot of her opinions. Think
to be honest, and this sentence just because like we
had a little spat on X. I know I'm not
I'm not a child, but I in general, I think
that you know, she has been successful, no doubt about it,
and I wish her success, you know I do. But

(05:17):
I think a lot of her success is part of
her you know, her consistency with what she's done. She's
a streamer, she started off on Twitch. I think she's
quite a following, obviously more than here. So this isn't
me trying to grab attention. I'm actually throwing her flowers
for for doing what she's doing, becoming She like made

(05:38):
partner on Twitch and she's again quite a following. But
I think some of that success has to do with
the fact that she's a a blonde girl in a
predominantly male space where you have a lot of men.
It just kind of fits, if you know what I mean.
And you know, while she'll claim that she's oh, it's

(06:01):
such a tough space to be a woman, it's like, actually,
you understand the irony of what you're claiming here, you
are actually in part as successful as you are because
you're a blonde, fairly attractive woman in a male space.
Yet you're claiming to be some kind of oppressed victim
in the space, and the irony, of course is lost.

(06:22):
But yeah, I mean didn't go well with a lot
of people of my claims regarding you can't actually be
a dog mom or dog dad. You just can't. You
can be a dog, you could be an adopter. You
can be an owner, right, you can be a sitter.
You can't be a mom or a dad. Why because

(06:44):
you can't change what mom and dad means? All right, caregiver,
you can be a caregiver. But people want to just
appropriate actual motherhood or actual fatherhood with the ownership of
a dog, right, the ownership of a dog. And it's

(07:04):
not how this works. I know as much as the
people I care for them, just as I would if
I had children. It's like, well, that's the problem. You
don't have children, number one, and that means that you
don't actually understand what it means to care for a child.
You think you do, but you don't because you don't
have one, and it's a substitute for you. Clearly you know,

(07:28):
having a hole in your life you need to fill that.
You're trying to appropriate motherhood or fatherhood into your life
by using a dog or a cat or whatever. And
I again, you want to own a pet, cool, take
care of it, love it, that's fine. But to say
it's on some kind of equal footing as taking care
of it of a child, a human child, I mean,

(07:51):
get the hell out of here. It's simply not. So.
It has been quite the interesting reaction it's been. It's
been as bad as I figured it be regarding my
opinion about it, and I just simply and a lot
of it actually is most of the comments I have
to say from Spotify to X although X has been

(08:12):
more vile as expected. That's the way it is with
everything there and and in email. I'm sure I've got
some of it from you guys is oh I really
you know, I normally agree with you, man, but this one,
you're you're classless or some of them were like, oh yeah,
you spent the first thirty minutes talking about a dead dog. Well,

(08:34):
first of all, I don't apologize for that. I take
absolutely nothing back. Zero did I go a little long
in the tooth talking about a dead dog. Yeah, I
mean on paper, I did, uh. But number one, I've
never done that before. So it's not a pattern of
me doing this. That's the first time ever in my
eleven year, eleven years, twelve years doing this. And I

(08:54):
wanted to explain myself thoroughly because it does kind of
branch off into other things and another reasonings and others
kind of subtopics about things in the world, and it
did kind of drive me off course a little bit.
And you know what there is though, there's that skip button.
There's that skip ahead button that does exist, like you

(09:15):
skip ahead third thirty seconds, twenty seconds, or you take
your finger if you didn't know this, you take your
finger at your phone and you scrub along the timeline.
You know what that does? That moves you ahead in
the show. So if you're just like, oh my god, okay,
he's still talking about it, oh okay, And it takes
a thirty minute potential droning on about a dog that
you don't want to hear about to the wrestling content

(09:37):
that started, I don't know, it really might have been
thirty minutes and it was a while. It was a while,
no doubt about it. So those are those two magical
kind of like key tips hacks on your iPhone or
Android or whatever phone you're using. So there you go. Yeah,
it was a little bit more than normal. But I
apologize zero zero uh, And I stand by everything I said.

(10:02):
If people think, oh, okay, he's gonna he's probably upset
about the backlash, no, no, In fact, when I get pushback,
it just my instincts are to kind of dig in
even deeper and triple down. So if the emails I
get today, and I'm sure they're not going to be
some of them are nice, it's fine. It's fine. I'm
not going to sit here and again gloat at anyone's

(10:24):
pain for if they lost a dog. That's not my
it's not my it's not my objective, not my motive.
But let's see, let's see where things land here. Excuse me,
all right, let's sell before we get into that. Let's start.
Let's before we get into the dog. I want to

(10:45):
start with something non dog related. Okay, which, by the way,
people are saying, I show what are you talking about it? Well,
it was like it was trending on Twitter like number
one for a long time, so I guess I'm not
allowed to talk about things that are trending on the
Internet worldwide. I guess that's according to them, I'm not

(11:07):
allowed to, or at least I'm not allowed to have
a specific opinion about something just simply because I don't
care as much as they do and feel other people
should about the passing of an animal that they've never
met in their lives. Then I'm not allowed to say anything.
See how the world works. Yeah, well, you're gonna have
a bit of a different You're gonna have a problem

(11:29):
with me here. I'm you know, if you think I'm
gonna apologize or cower, Yeah, that's you met the wrong person.
You may want to find another show that that is
is a little more squeamish or a little less squeamish,
when it's a little more cuddly and an easy going
and everything. So that's your warning. If you're tummy, hurts easily,

(11:50):
if you're easily offended, you you've had your warning. Okay,
there we go. This is from Darren. He was in
attended set Survivors series in San Diego. Okay, Darren cool,
Darren says, So, I guess I was in the bad crowd. Huh, Well, no,
you I should you know, I know, I did say
the crowd was not super loud that Survivor series, but

(12:16):
again I attributed that, I think in part to the
open air concept. And this is not unique to San Diego.
I mean almost every time they have an open air stadium,
it doesn't translate well because the noise gets lost. I mean,
how much noise travels upward, it doesn't have a chance
to reverberate down and so you're not in this like

(12:37):
kind of echo chamber of sorts, So you're gonna lose
some noise when when you're in an open air space.
That's just the way it goes. So I again, you
weren't a bad crowd, I write you better than my
own town. No, you weren't. You guys weren't bad. A
little quiet at times, yeah, but that's to me, that's
kind of normal. Okay. Being there, it didn't seem as

(12:59):
bad as every one saying is online, at least in
my section, except for the Nicki Bellas Stephanievicare. I do
remember thinking to myself, why is it so quiet? But
there were some really loud reactions. I'd say the top
three were John Cena, rear Ripley, and Cody Rhodes. But
now that I'm typing this, I'm thinking maybe there are
more people excited just to see the wrestlers than the

(13:19):
actual wrestling itself. Yeah, I think you're onto something there, Darren.
A couple quick notes. Number One, the most merch being
worn was for John Cena by a lot, but there
was nothing I really loved there, so I didn't even
buy anything really. And also, I'm sure that you know
they didn't exactly have anything on sale there. I'm guessing

(13:41):
that the words discount and sale were banned, and if
you know, you uttered those two words or anything resembling
a discount or a sale, you were immediately handcuffed and
sent to jail. Because I'm sure they didn't do that.
It's tough. It's certainly tough buying merch a at a

(14:04):
live event unless you know that you're going to get scammed. Okay,
the demographic, I didn't notice a ton of families there.
Of course, there were kids with one parent, but not
many big groups. So TKO's plan of not pricing for
families seems to be working. Congratulations. Well, yes, I mean

(14:24):
that that's true. It does seem to be working. But
the question is since they're pricing families out, does that
really bring more non families in to make up for
the lost families that could have gone if they could
have afforded it. My answers, probably no. But they did
pretty well at that's on the sales. I mean, it

(14:45):
was forty some thousand in that stadium. It looked fairly full.
I don't know if it was considered a sellout. I
don't think it was, but it looked pretty damn good,
and the ticket sales rose fairly well towards the end
of the tickets The tickets sale l of the event.
And yeah, that that doesn't also surprise me. Even as

(15:08):
long as I've been watching wrestling, you know, pl e's
as they were then known pay per views were always
priced higher, and they should be because those are the
bigger the bigger matches, the bigger events, the big deal
blowoffs and starting of things and returns, and that's when
you expect bigger things in bigger moments. You don't always

(15:29):
get it, as we know that, but especially for a
Survivor series one of the Big Four, you're an elite
territory there, I mean, you know, not only is it
a televised event, it's a televised ple E. And not
only is it a well, all TV pls are televised,
but not only is it a pl E, it's an
elite for p l E. You know. So you're in

(15:51):
a in the top four of their events of the year,
you're going to get a premium price that does price
out families, just the way it's going to be, and
it seemingly has kind of been like that as long
as I can remember watching wrestling. Okay, As for the matches,
I thought the women's Wargames match was decent, not bad,

(16:12):
not amazing. Johnson and versus Dominic was definitely my favorite match,
and seeing live return was cool. Stephanie Vicaier versus Nikki
Bella was also decent. But I think this is the
one where the crowd went dead and hurt the match.
I would agree, well, it hurt the match, but what
did you guys have to cheer for? You know, it's
you know, so I don't really blame you there. I

(16:35):
bet if this was the exact same thing but in France,
people would feel different. That's a good point, Darren, and
that kind of shows you the effect the crowd could
have on the perception of the match at home. Even
if the moves were the same, if the botches were
the same, everything else was completely identical, from the commentary

(16:57):
to the number of steps that both women took to
the ring. If everything matched identically, the only difference was
the crowd. Was the crowd from Leon, France or wherever
they go that's overseas. I guarantee you the perception, and
even you and I would would probably agree that the

(17:19):
perception of the match would probably be a little bit
better because of the crowd reaction. That just adds so
much to a match. Even if a match is garbage,
a crowd can lift it up and make it the
perception to be not as bad. The crowd has an
incredible role. So good point. The men's War Games match

(17:43):
I enjoyed until the end. I don't mind that the
heel team won, but it just kind of felt like
it ended abruptly. I think everyone, to me included, didn't
want me to believe that was the ending. We were
just waiting for something else to happen. Me too, and
I think everybody else was to And for the premium
price tag you paid, you probably should have gotten more there,

(18:04):
you know. And also when we hear Triple Ah say
it's going to be epic, the biggest, this, the biggest,
that it's gonna be monumental, epic, whatever he says, now whatever,
Just like overhyped marketing terms he uses, we all need
to just disregard his nonsense. Disregard it, take your expectations down,
because his definition of epic is clearly one that is

(18:28):
skewed by marketing jargon. Because he promoted money that Raw
is going to be epic, and it was anything but epic.
And I don't think many people would be looking at
Raw as kind of mediocre as they would have had
Triple H not set the expectation that's going to be epic.
Epic means massive, monster returns, monster angles started, you know,

(18:55):
something like that, and we didn't get any of that.
We got the judgment day being revived. I couldn't think
of a lamer way to end Raw. No disrespect, excuse
me to live Morgan, But overall I had fun being there.
Maybe if I flew out to San Diego and spent
a couple thousand dollars, I might have been disappointed. But luckily,

(19:15):
Oh okay, wait, you live about a twenty minute drive
to Petco Park, and I just love going to events
in person. I also bought my tickets during the pre sale.
They were about one point fifty and a few days
before the event, I checked Ticketmaster in the seats in
the same section I they were going for five hundred. Wow. Oh, Darren,
you lucked out, my friend. You lucked out big time. See.

(19:37):
I was thinking you were probably dropping at least over
a g and you lucked out. You live local and
you got pre sale smart man. Oh well, I'm glad
to see that might have been worth the price of admission.
I think that was so. Even though it wasn't a

(19:58):
a event that you're gonna remember an infamy, it was
still probably worth it. I would say, all right, where
are we going here? Let's good grief. Where do I go?
What are I'm trying to avoid the dog thing for
a minute. Let's talk to Kyle Kyle or Captain k C.

(20:23):
He's writing in from West Yorkshire. All right, cool, longtime listener,
first time running in. I felt Survivors series was such
a disappointment despite the amount of top tier talent that
that was in wargames. I'm glad, however, that Live is
back and what's your further open thoughts on the possibility

(20:43):
of who could be in the black hoodie besides who
online everyone suggesting it is. I would like to think
it's someone beyond Austin theory, but it needs to make sense.
It's a good question. It could be Joe Hendry. Joe
Henry turning heel to attack punk makes no sense. I

(21:05):
mean Austin theory fits the bill. The longer though that
they push this off, the higher their expectations going to be.
And if it's Austin theory, the I mean it's going
to be a big letdown. But that's okay if it's
a heel though, because number one, it's about pushing younger talent.

(21:29):
It always has been the lifeblood of the company rests
on young talent, because that's how the company will survive
in the future, is by continuously helping build young talent.
And that would be a hell of a boost for theory.
Now that quote theory no pun intended, was also implemented
on Austin theory a few WrestleManias ago when he beat

(21:49):
John Cena, and that actually marked the decline of his career.
Since that moment, it did nothing for him at all.
By beating John Cena at Wrestler nothing zero. So perhaps
there's something more solid here in this group of the vision.
It fits Austin theory well, because again it's an instantaneous

(22:12):
boost right to the top of money net Raw. You
get to work with braun Breaker Bronson Reed, who does
need some work, but bron Breaker is right now at
an all time high. Yeah, Paul Hayman, there, Austin theory
can cut a decent promo too. And then eventually when

(22:33):
Seth comes back, what's he gonna do? He could have
someone to work with, but it would put him in
the conversation immediately with Punk and Austin Theory can work
with anybody. So yeah, I mean, I hate to cop
out on this one, but who else even makes sense?
That's out there still, that's realistic? Who you know? I

(22:55):
don't know. There is a picture of the masked man
who looked directly at someone's came in the audience. He
has blue eyes, all right. I feel like I'm playing
clue here, but he did. He had. He has blue
eyes unless they change the person, which is my thought

(23:15):
as well that since Triple H and Company the entire
I mean management, they can deny or pretend that they
don't listen to fans online or pay attention. They do,
of course they do. They all know that we know
that it's Austin theory, and when we are so confident
of that, it's tempting, I'm sure on their side, to

(23:38):
change who it's going to be. I'd be tempted to
screw with fans and tell has you don't know what
you think you do? Well, no, we did. You just
changed it because we found out. But they'll never admit that,
of course, So I'm okay with that too. But I
also don't want them to change it just to change
it when Austin theory was actually a better option predictability.

(24:01):
I will stick by this, not just with matches, but
also with returns and reveals. If the person that you
think is the right person to be in that position,
even if the fans kind of know, then fine, then
let it be. It's better to do it that way

(24:21):
than have a very short term gain for a shocking
turn when ultimately oh cool, yeah, the fans didn't expect that.
We'll wait, now what see? Uh, well, I don't know.
Austin theory was supposed to be here. He was going
to do this and this and this, so you really
got to think long term here. I would just stick
with whoever is the best person. Okay, So, after all

(24:45):
the hype and how everything went so viral, why do
you think they've stuck Joe Henry to NXT rather than
bump him to the straight to the main roster. I
attended a house showing leads this year and he made
a surprise appearance and got one of the biggest pops
of the night. Thanks for time to reading my email,
looking forward to response, Kyle or Captain Case from West Yorkshire. Well, Kyle,

(25:05):
thank you. So, I mean I've been We've been tracking
Joe Hendry for a couple of years now. I mean
we have a dedicated spy, an investigator, researcher. I wonder,
I guess all those hats and DJ Cuzmo who has
given us the Joe Hendry Report every week for a
long time now. And he keeps popping in and out

(25:29):
from the Rumble. Okay, he's finally gonna be here Wrestle Media.
He's Randy Orton's opponent. Massive reaction, Okay, finally, and then
he goes back down to TNA and then you know,
he's like, oh, it becomes world champion and he works
with the talent down there and he disappears for a while.
Now he's at the n XT. They are slow burning
this one. I would like to think that the reason

(25:52):
for this is they want to have a guy like
Joe Henry who has some main value before even coming
up a plan, and that is so important. That is
something that really lacks with a lot of talent brought
up from NXT, is a plan. What are you gonna
do with them when they get here? Are you gonna

(26:14):
just do kind of a shock jock moment but no
follow up, or are you gonna have them entrenched in
some kind of real plot. I'm not talking automatically about
the world title. He needs to be world champion within
six months. No, I mean, if they want to go
that road, you know it's risky, but you could. But

(26:36):
I would go the road of mid card championship. Maybe
you could have him in a tag team, I guess.
But Joe Hendry I think belongs as a single star,
and I hope it's because they want to have the
right plan for him at the right time instead of
just throwing him on the roster. He's fun for a
couple of weeks, and then he disappears and he's in

(26:58):
a story that goes with a dead end. I would
rather have them kind of have him pop in and
out than have a start stop type of you know,
run on the main roster. It is frustrating, though, because
you would have figured by now for sure he'd be here.
He's getting very very close. All right, let's go to Chris.

(27:26):
Let's go to Chris. Let's see is there anything about
a dog here?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
No?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Okay, So Chris says, I'm a longtime listener and have
I also know I have one on Patriot in the
Patreon box as well. We'll get to that as well next,
I promise, And then I do see a dog email.
So all right, Chris says, I've stopped watching WWE. I'm
a longtime listener, but I've stop watching WWE in the

(27:52):
past six months. I can't watch it anymore. It has
terrible finishes, chronic kickouts after specials, and finishers you being
used too many times. It's disgusting. Even the matches that
are good, I find less than the average match on
TNA Wrestling. This is my real input trade off watching
and covering WWE, it's garbage. The only good thing about

(28:14):
it about is notoriety of wrestlers, but the substance of
each character is usually holdovers from times when the times
were better. The TNA stars actually have instant star power
and wow factors. I enjoy everything about TNA. Sometimes the
NXT stars and creative are responsible for some of their
stories or match endings, which is actually noticeable. Seriously, consider

(28:38):
trading your efforts and spend time time spent in WWE
to TNA. I've watched it since Bound for Glory pay
per view of theirs, and it's been scratching the wrestling
itch the best it's ever been. I have seen things
from wrestlers in TNA that I have never seen in WWE. Unfortunately,

(29:01):
they don't have a one hundred percent consistent product weekly
as the wrestlers do actually get breaks and a life
to themselves, which I respect. I've watched twenty twenty four
and twenty twenty three's Bound for Glory pay per views,
and I happily would watch outdated wrestling compared to the
current product of WWE. Again, TNA's fire and WW is trash. Seriously,

(29:23):
TNA should be adopted by all of your fans, and
you should cover it. If Dom and Drew go to TNA,
all the other stars can stay and keep the corporate
puppet show alive while real stars and wrestling take place
in TNA. And also Logan Paul could be allowed to
join TNA because he's legit. Yeah, Logan pol he's legit.

(29:45):
Lover hate him. So Chris, your sparking my interest. I
really am struggling to not SAYWE is trash. It's hard
to say a company as successful as they are in
terms of just pure numbers and revenue and everything else
and all the other markers of success that they have,

(30:08):
or at least how they measure success, it's hard to
say a company like that is trash. I think more accurately,
you're saying they're creative is trash. And I would even
go a little bit broader than that, though, I would
say that just today's presentation of how WWE perceives wrestling

(30:32):
is trash generally. And I guess I'm the old guy now.
I'm the old timer that I used to hear about
when I was twenty, or rather fifteen or twenty getting
into wrestling, really starting to watch. Of course, I was
spoiled by the attitude era. But now I'm that guy complaining, Oh,
it was so much better back in my day. I mean, well,

(30:54):
today's product is so sanitized and not in a way
that's the PG stuff, although that's a small part of it.
I do miss the blood, guts, gore in a way
when it was necessary, not just for its own sake,
but when you know, you wanted someone to see someone
get hit in the head with a chair and get
busted open, and there was just more like kind of chaos, chaos,

(31:18):
and it felt more unpredictable, like things could just happen
and it wasn't. It didn't feel so structured. You know,
today's product, even though Triple H is at the top here,
it's TKO, clearly doesn't respect the the lineage of professional wrestling.
They are giving you just entertainment. They're not going to

(31:42):
pay homage to pro wrestling, and pro wrestling is the entertainment,
but they have put that as like a fifth priority
when it comes to everything else. You know, they just
don't prioritize what made pro wrestling or even understand what
made pro wrestling so great and so popular, which is

(32:06):
this is really revolutionary realistic stories that are easy to
follow with deep characters. I mean that's at its core.
Is that all encompassing. No, but at a high level,
that's what draws you to wrestling, and really draws you
to any genre of entertainment, whether it's a TV show

(32:26):
or a movie, or you go if you go to
your local theater or whatever. That's what draws you to
entertainment because you want to get lost. You want to
be able to live vicariously through the characters that you're watching.
And I remember being able to do that, and today,
excuse me, today, I'm still I'm almost not sick anymore.

(32:50):
I'm very close, So I'm trying to speak softly tonight.
But today there's so much more worried about celebrities being
at there events and exposing the entire process of how
they run the show and make a whole show about it,
and then tell you about how they make the show
during the show you're supposed to be invested in. They

(33:13):
have the words heal and babyface and promo being used
in promos. You know, you have these very kind of structured,
predictable spots in matches that don't look organic, and they
look extremely pre planned. And that's not to downplay the
effort that these men and women put in. They are

(33:36):
just working within the system that they have been told
they have to work within. But it to me has
real the wrestling matches themselves. If that's what you're trying
to sell me with TNA, and I'm not speaking against that,
I really you're making me think Chris for real. But
maybe that's the part that is missing, and that's a

(34:00):
big part of what's missing. It's just like the organic
field during matches. And it's like you said, the kickouts
of finishes is a symptom of a bigger problem and
I hate it too. TNA is just much more wrestling based.
It's just wrestling, and there's some It doesn't mean that
TNA doesn't have it's you know, it's kind of it's

(34:20):
moments of it's not just all in ring, but the
focus is there. A lot of the focus is there,
and the matches are there, and a lot of times
I find myself watching matches in WWE and I'm feeling
a number of things, Either why do I care who
wins or loses? This was I told why I should care?

(34:42):
Or I'm thinking, you know, like wow, this is some
of these spots look just so lack of a better term,
just so fake, I feel. And I've said this before,
and I this is not a I want to be
clear to the listeners, this is not a hit on
you at all. You obviously got everybody can watch whatever

(35:05):
they want to when it comes to entertainment, whatever you like,
you like, Okay, I mean that is. Everybody's got their preferences.
That's so this is not a slight on anyone listening.
This is just me personally how I feel with watching
today's product, and it's an increasing feeling that I don't like.
Because when I feel this feeling, it makes me not

(35:26):
want to watch it anymore. And I'm not saying that's
for shock value or try to throw dumb with the show, no,
but when I'm watching the show and I feel embarrassed
to watch it, even though I'm watching it by myself,
like I'm too old to watch this stuff, because what
they've done is they've made some of the moves and

(35:47):
stories and promos so manufactured and so phony, and the
spots during the mattress so set up that nothing feels organic,
and I my brain is like, this is what you
have to have a child's brain and imagination to get
involved in what's going on here emotionally, and I'm trying

(36:08):
to get emotionally involved, and I'm like, this is my
adult brain. I can't do that. I feel like I'm
too old to try to do this. Does that make sense?
Maybe this doesn't resonate with anybody, but it's an feeling
of embarrassment and I'm too I feel too old to
watch this like I'm watching a child show at times,
at times not the whole show. But that's how I'm

(36:31):
starting to feel with a lot of the wrestling in
WW now, and I when I feel secondhand embarrassment sitting
by myself. Now, there's some of you out there listening
who don't like me. You're probably like, well, you've got
a lot of reasons to feel embarrassed. Wealth there's some
comment content for you. I have to help you. But

(36:53):
that's something I haven't felt with watching wrestling in a while,
and it's becoming more and more frequent. Thank you, Chris.
I you know what, maybe tonight before I go to bed,
if I can, it's it's getting a little late here
where I'm at. But what I'm gonna try to do
is watch some t and A. I promise you, I'm

(37:14):
not gonna I can't promise you. I'm gonna watch all
of excuse me, sorry, guys. Twenty twenty three or twenty
twenty four is bound for glory. But I'm gonna start
to to just dip my toe in and see if
I take the temperature, and I also, you know, kind
of get drawn in. So thank you, Chris. I hope

(37:34):
you're doing well. All right. So before we get to
the Deceased Dog, which I really don't know if it's
a good or bad one, but that the title is
about deceased dog, so I can kind of deduce how
that one's probably going to go. We will see. I
do want to jump directly into into Patreon because we

(37:57):
do have I think it was a fairly long message
that I will that i'll put on air here. I'm
not sure if this person gave the name, so I
will just it's it's a patron and I will just
leave this person anonymous unless during the message they reveal
the name. So it's just a wrestling fan. I'll leave

(38:18):
it there who is a fan of the show, so
I appreciate appreciate it. So let's talk to this person.
They said, Hi there, what's the old radio saying longtime listener,
first time caller. Yes, yes, yes, that is a lot
of sports radio. I listened to a lot of actually
New York sports, like the Fan, Mike Francesa, Michael Kay, yeah,

(38:40):
I hear that a lot there. I'm guessing it's also
used everywhere else. So that's you, okay cool. I've been
listening for the past few years and finally joined Patreon
a few months ago to skip the ads. So worth it? Well,
there you go. See you have testimony right here. It
is worth it. I totally agree. I hate the ads too.
If I'm listening, I listen to some of my own
show sometimes to see if I'm annoying or things I

(39:02):
can improve on, and how pain in the ass the
ads are. And they are pain in the ass. I
mean they come up like every ten minutes. The beginning
of the show has some ads. I get it, but
you know, man's got to eat. I mean, if I
can monetize something that I do that I love, like,
why won't I You know who wouldn't of course, And

(39:23):
for a relatively modest vee you can get rid of
them for three dollars a month. I mean it's like
a nothing right. So all right, so you're finally writing in.
So you said your son is in elementary school and
he started being interested in wrestling. And while I love

(39:44):
most other sports, I didn't know that much about w
WE in its history. So I discovered your podcast and
it's been a great way for me to become a
fast expert and stay on top of what's been going on.
So thank you. Well, you're welcome. I also enjoy how
you're very blunt with things going on in the industry
and say usually when you say Sholga complaints about this,
you're about to say something I agree with. Well, I
don't careful. Careful Anonymous wrestling van here, be careful when

(40:12):
you say that, because there's been things as of late.
Certainly I've said that. I'm sure you're like, oh, well
that one. I don't know, and I expect that. I
don't actually look for affirmation. I don't need it from people.
I mean, I appreciate it. It's not that I'm saying
stop it. I'm just saying a lot of people just

(40:34):
they live off of it. They need it to validate themselves.
I don't I actually thrive when people disagree and it's fun,
it becomes fun. I mean, of course, in today's culture,
it turns very quickly into name calling, labeling, branding, whatever.
You know, we all know what we're talking about, because
it's just everything. Everybody's so easily triggered into oblivion that

(40:59):
having civilized discussion is a lost art and having disagreements
is something that actually can happen, but also still understanding
where that person's coming from and just agreeing to disagree.
You know, today's culture is no, you got to force
that person if they don't if they don't believe, would
you believe on this particular issue at this time? You know,

(41:22):
you need to dehumanize them. I mean that sounds like hyperbole.
It's not. It's getting insane. So careful when you say
I'll get complaints about this. When you hear me say that,
there's gonna be a time coming if it hasn't already
happened where you're like, uh, okay, Matt, you went a
little too far there, It's gonna happen, Okay. In twenty
twenty three, my kid and I attended four WWE events, SmackDown,

(41:45):
a Raw and two house shows, and we got so
excited for WrestleMania in twenty twenty four because it was
within a few hours drive, but the pricing was so
crazy in Philadelphia that we just attended the Access Superstar
convention where The Rock showed up three hours late to
his appearance. Oh god, yeah, I heard about that. Yeah,

(42:10):
mister Dwayne, I remember that. That must have been if
your kids in elementary school. I mean, I've got a
kid in elementary school right now too. I can imagine
what three hours late does to you and your kid,
especially your kid who is probably like, what are we doing, mom?

(42:30):
Where are we going? You're trying to keep a kid entertained?
And oh boy, oh boy, God bless you. And then
we watched what the actual WrestleMania from home, and I
promised him we would get to a house show or
two instead that year. Of course, this is when TKO
stopped doing house shows in twenty twenty five. January twenty

(42:51):
twenty five, with the Raw Netflix kickoff and the Scene
of Retirement tour announced, we thought for sure we would
be able to make it to a few events this year,
and then seeing it pretty much only showed up in
Europe and to pl E s another disappointment for my kid,
another broken promise and more missed opportunities by t KO
to build lifelong fans and sell more merch and give

(43:13):
families a night out. As a career business person, I
was beyond annoyed and irritated. It's just a stupid way
to run a corporation. Yeah, I mean, don't not according
to Mark Shapiro. I mean, they're not pricing for the
singles like you and I would be if we was

(43:33):
just you know, if we didn't have kids. They're pricing
for the family. They're not pricing for the families. They
are pricing for the singles. I should say, so the
people like you and I who have kids that want
to bring them. He doesn't give a damn. He's pricing
for the people that will just pay whatever to come
and seeing how far those ticket prices can go before
people start to push back. But the idea that's seeing

(43:55):
that you're right, I mean this is also I can
guarantee you if Vince Mcan were still in charge, for
all the criticism Vince Getz, they wouldn't have gone overseas
more than once or twice with John and I felt
like he spent months over there, and a lot of
the appearances were over there, and I know the European
fans are like, yeah, and that's good for you guys,

(44:18):
you know. But at the same time, most of the appearance,
of the vast majority of appearances that John Cena had
and made relationships with in person was in the United
States in North America. So it did stink. And I'm
thinking the same thing for myself and like, oh, SmackDown's
coming to my town. I know, maybe he'll be there,
and obviously didn't happen. Now, I will give you a

(44:41):
little bit of hope. I will give you a little
bit of hope because while Johnsena says he's retiring, he
is also going to be in the Hall of Fame.
So you know, despite the fact that he's done wrestling,
if you want, even after December thirteenth, to see John
Cena in person, we just have to wait for that
that WrestleMania Hall of Fame induction because he will for sure,

(45:07):
I mean, he has to be in person for that induction.
He'll be that the Hall of Fame the night before
which I have been to, and he'll be actually announced
and presented at that particular WrestleMania. It could be as
soon as this one in Vegas. They might decide to
make John Cena the head of this year's Hall of Fame.

(45:28):
If not, he's certainly going to be the class of
twenty twenty seven. So that is one more chance if
you want to Grin and Barrett where it guarantees that
you will see John Cena when he heads up the
class of the Hall of Fame class. He's not gonna
have a match, He's probably not even gonna cut a promo.
At least at WrestleMania. During the Hall of Fame, you'll

(45:51):
be able to hear him speak and talk about his career.
But that so don't lose hope. If you really want
to make sure that you follow through on your promise,
just pay attention to when John Scene is getting inducted
into the Hall of Fame, and then you'll be able
to again you got a grin and bear the price
of the ticket to get there. I understand it's a
lot of cost there is. I've been to WrestleMania's. It's

(46:14):
not a fun it's not a fun time for your wallet.
Your wallet is light quick. But that is another that's
at least a guarantee of at least you know, if
you want to make good on that promise, and you're
dead set on it even beyond December thirteenth, you can,
all right, let's continue. But as a parent, who's a

(46:37):
pushover from making my kid happy and making memories while
we can. I did end up buying tickets to Summer
Slam at the last minute, and it went on Night
one in person, and it was an awesome experience. My
kid really wanted to see John Cena in person, but
the match card for Night two of Summer Slam is
so much weaker that I convinced him we should have

(46:58):
more fun on night one, and I was right. However,
I also did recently buy us tickets for Sena's last
match in DC. Wait a minute, I should have read
ahead my whole explanation about the Hall of Fame. You're
probably sitting here, so read the rest of the email.
I didn't go that far. Yeah, you're an enabler, that's
what you are. You are a flat out enabler. So

(47:22):
you said you recently bought us tickets for Sena's last
match in DC. Oh God, I keep telling myself this
will be the last WWE tickets we buy for a
long long time. I'm tired of giving TK all my
money when they're not running the business properly. We went
to an AEW event recently and felt like we got

(47:43):
way more than our money's worth from that, and there
were a lot of families there, more than I expected.
We're also fortunate to have a good local independent wrestling
circuit in our area, so we'll support that instead too.
But despite the frustration, I've definitely fallen in love with
the sport and it's been awesome to be able to
come a WW expert with the help of my show.
That's very really really cool. The recaps you and a

(48:05):
Manda do really helped me stay in the loop, and
I love the mail bag episodes with the other longtime fans.
Thank you and keep up with the good well. I
really do appreciate that. I'm not sure your name. That's
great good stuff here you now you don't get a
feel good email every most of the time when you
hear stuff kind of like your employer, it's like an
abusive relationship. It's a representation of a bad relationship, one

(48:28):
that's very abusive emotionally. When you only hear about bad stuff,
and you could do four hundred things right and then
the one thing you do wrong in my office, right,
So I appreciate that. I appreciate this good stuff, and
I'll just I'll just label you the enabler. We'll just

(48:49):
call you that because that's really cool though. I mean, hey,
if you're going to d C to see Johnsen his
last match, and then you know, probably give a damn
about the Hall of Fame suggestions I just had, because
you're going to be the for a historic moment, for
a time that you get to say you were in
person to see Johnson his last match. A lot of
people revere him as the greatest of all time. I

(49:11):
personally don't. It doesn't matter what I think though, It's
about you, know how you and your your kid feel
so awesome. Okay, let's go to our final email of
the night, and again, if you send them in and
you want to complain about my complaining about a dog,

(49:31):
go ahead, feel free. I'm sure there's more of those coming.
Let's talk to Let's talk to Shane. This is a
final email, guys. Shane says, Hey, mat I gotta we'll see.
I got a bit of a kick out of your
sarcastic wit regarding seeing Punk's dog, I'll make the message

(49:51):
about Punk as well, so it is actually about wrestling
as well. I appreciate that. Yes, I'm not the biggest
Punk fan. I recently emailed about how Laine jay So
is and I'll give Punk that at least he is relevant.
If I see him on TV, I'm not going to
turn it off. So despite not being his biggest fan,
I can to a degree respect his star power in

(50:12):
saying that. As mentioned before, I'm a huge Orton fan
and found it extremely annoying in twenty twenty three when
Orton returned from back surgery fusion back fusion surgery at
Survivors series, only for it to be overshadowed by Punk's return.
I mean, you've got a guy who lives and brees
wwe never left a guy who shot on it. I

(50:33):
don't think I've ever read that word on air shat
good stuff, bailed and ran away. That pissed me off.
I do feel Punk is a bit overrated. I do
whoever think that he's good at what he does. And
don't get me wrong, but the way people talk about
him and how they chanted his name for years after
he felt like it was more than a fad of

(50:54):
actually wanting Punk there. Albeit I think him being around
is good for the but he isn't mount Rushmore level. Okay,
before we get to the dog I for the shad
thing is funny. The the idea that Orton was overshadowed

(51:14):
is true even Orton. If you saw some of the
backstage stuff Orton was, Yeah, he was. He was visibly annoyed,
and I would be too. He was out for almost
two years, makes a spectacular entrance, looks like four million
bucks better than when he left. He just looked like,
you know, he was restructured and he rebuilt, I should say.

(51:35):
And then ten minutes later Seampunk comes out and it's
like people forgot about Randy. He's like, oh my god,
Seampunk's back. It's not on It's not Seampunk's fault. You know,
that's on Creative. That's their decision. I mean, I know
Seampunk agreed to it, but why wouldn't He's in Chicago.
You think Sampunk's going to turn down that money and
that opportunity. Of course not nobody would. Nobody in the

(51:59):
sound of my voice, would turned down the money that
he made that night for that return in their own hometown.
Y s. Whorton was kind of collateral damage, but it
was WWE's creative decision not seeing punks. Okay, here we
go more importantly about the dog. We actually lost our
family dog last week. I'll point out no offense taken

(52:21):
to anything you said. Well, yay, yeah, okay, so it's
a good start. Good start, I mean, yeah, I do.
I'm sorry to hear about your dog. Yeah, I'm sorry that,
you know, again, family dogs, I understand it. I'm not.
I'm not downplaying the pain people feel for their for
their family dogs when they lose them. That's not my point.

(52:42):
I'm not. You know, I'm not a psycho arraya what
do you call it, sociopath when they have just no
feeling they have like no empathy or whatever. No, I'm
not that. I just I don't personally feel that way.
But I can empathize and under stand white people do.
That's the distinction. But I do expect a full vignette

(53:05):
un raw this week and a sob story about my
dog and all seriousness. He was a part of our family,
and I do believe dogs have a place. I have
their place and a family, even dating back years and
years for hunting in early humans. It's madship. Dogs have
become domesticated because of it, and if they and they
do see us as their pack. At the same time, though,
I'm a father of two young boys, and it's apples

(53:26):
and oranges. I find it laughable when people compare them
to actual children. I'll stop there. So I like that.
I mean, yeah, you can bond with a dog, not
in the way that you can bomb with a person.
Dogs can't speak, They're considerably less intelligent than people. They have,

(53:46):
you know, a very limited reasoning that kind of thing.
I mean, humans are just superior almost every way, almost,
and that's just a fact. But that doesn't mean that
dogs should be treated poorly. Animals should not be treated poorly.
It's just I think I'm trying to clarify my position,
and I like how you're talking about that. You know,

(54:08):
dogs have become domesticated, and they have. But as long
as humans have been around and dogs have been, you know,
a part of the mix. They have helped in hunting
and everything else. So yes, and protection as well, and
and dogs. I understand why dogs. Many people bring dogs

(54:29):
into their family as part of it. I get that
absolutely I just personally don't have an affinity or a
drive for that, If that makes sense, that's all. It'd
be different if I was sitting here and be like you,
I don't understand why people are so attached, and it's
it's weird. Dogs should be you know, banished and and

(54:53):
you know beaten and all that. That's that's a little
bit different of a message. It's not that's what I
was saying, even though many people have heard that in
their minds, that's what that's what they heard. Now I
will say that certain breeds of dog should not be

(55:14):
allowed in neighborhoods, and you may be like, what do
you mean? Okay, now this is another topic. This is
the last thing I promise that I'll say, and then
we'll get to your closing comments about the dog and
wrap the whole show up. I promise there's not going
to be a thirty minute tirade. But when it comes

(55:37):
to pitbulls, there is just no disputing the fact that
pitbulls are an overwhelming culprit when it comes to mauling
young children or adults and or other dogs. It's just fact.

(55:57):
It's over I think it's sixty sixty five percent of
all dog attacks or maulings of people are pitbull Pitples
are innately more aggressive, and people may say, well, not mine,
mine's cute. Okay, First of all, if you're just getting
a dog because it's cute, that's an irresponsible dog ownership problem.

(56:21):
You can't well, just because it's cute is not a reason.
And if you think your dog would never do that, well,
what do you think all of the other families that
own pitbulls thought of their pitbulls that they wouldn't do
that as well? But every year, multiple times a year,
you'll hear on the news, your local news or a
may sometimes it makes national about a dog that got

(56:44):
out and attacked a young child or attacked and malled
another dog. It's indisputable that they are overwhelmingly more aggressive
than almost any other breed. So to me, piples should
I'm not saying we should hunt down and kill them,
but they should not be allowed in neighborhoods, and just

(57:05):
based on the data, all right, That's that's why that
when I feel strongly about just because I mean, how
many more people or dogs are supposed to die because
people are bringing pit bulls, these wild animals into their
into their backyards and yeah, they'll never mine, wouldn't mine is?

(57:26):
So you know mine's really friendly. Yes, sorry, keep your
goddamn pit bull at home. I don't want to see it.
I am. Pit Bulls to me are just like, yeah,
I don't trust them. I don't trust and you shouldn't either.
If you have a pit bull, Uh, just keep it,
keep it away from your I mean, of course I

(57:47):
can't tell everything what to do. I would be cautious
with your dog around, especially a pit bull around. If
you have young kids, you got to watch them, just
do even if that dog has been around for months
or years. What if it's that one thing that triggers
them next thing? You know, you know, you've got a

(58:08):
tragedy on your hands. Happens every year to the people
that would say the same thing that you would probably
say if you own a pit bull, that wouldn't happen
to me, not my dog. Yeah, so okay, last part
about the dog, and Shane says, a I think it's
something as a parent, which Sandpunk clearly isn't. You only

(58:32):
understand then you can't live without your children. You're biologically
not meant to outlive them, and losing them would be
the most the worst thing in the world. While losing
our dog was sad, Like, come on, as much as
I love my dog, in complete honesty, I would have
ran over my dog. First. Oh god, I'm gonna read

(58:56):
this again. Sorry as I'll read this again and I
promise to keep it together. As much as I loved
my dog and complete honestly, I would have run over
my dog numerous times. If I had to choose between
them or my child, I'd run over a dog happily
if it meant my child was safe. I guess only

(59:17):
a real parent would understand that. Like, yeah, I loved
my dog, but love them like an owner loves a dog.
I do think it's sad, but life goes on. I'm
not going to have a mental breakdown over losing my dog,
not like my son's. See, that's the perspective that people
that have children have. It's a very normal, healthy perspective.
You love the dog, you respect the dog, you take

(59:38):
care of the dog, but you're the dog's owner. Now,
being an owner doesn't mean that you treat it like
crap as you know. It means you take care of
its needs. You know, you love on it, whatever, But
it pales in comparison to the sacrifice, the love, the joy,

(59:58):
even of course the stress. And we all know that
you have a young kid, kid or kids, you know
that comes with children. And I think only those that
have children can see that perspective where people who have
dogs and call themselves dog moms or dog dads or
whatever are trying to substitute for something that they don't have. Uh,

(01:00:20):
and you know, it's it's sad, and it also is
kind of disrespectful. I think to actual parents of human beings,
that obviously is a much bigger, deeper, more meaningful task
than taking care of an animal. Uh, that's just a fact.

(01:00:41):
Love it or hate emmy. I don't know if these
people think if they say it enough times it'll be true.
Maybe that's the thing they have to It's like beetlejuice.
They have to say it three times or more and
then it'll just just, you know, kind of bit bitty
boppity boo itself and what do you know, the the
dog is suddenly actually their child. But yeah, see that's

(01:01:04):
a healthy perspective. I know there's some people out there
still are probably twisting and turning listening to this. I
don't know what to tell you if your message that
you're taking from what I'm saying is I think all
dogs should die, and you know it's not the same
as having a human child. I mean, I don't know

(01:01:26):
have to tell you, I just don't. But okay, perhaps
they should have an Eddie Guerrero like tribute for this dog,
lighting it up on stage, lining it up on stage,
or Bray Wyatt like having the fireflies. I think Sampunk
is only milking it for sympathy, to be honest, But
you don't have to have the same love for a
dog as you do your kids. You're an absolute buffoon

(01:01:48):
if you think that Cheers, you're just too logical. Ps
Cmpunk can't fight lost all's aura going to the UFC
and losing to nobody's. It's funny watching him act tough,
like I'd be more afraid of his his misses. To
be honest, yeah, I've got a lot of I mean,
see him Punk obviously legendary on the mic, very good

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in the ring. I think, I really do think he's
very good in the ring. I still do. But everything
outside of wrestling, he's just totally off base. I mean,
I disagree with him on almost every take he's had
outside of wrestling, like very consistently, almost everything that he

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has said and done that I've seen outside of wrestling
has just been the complete opposite of what I would do,
or believe or say. So the only thing that Phil
Brooks and I have in common is the love of wrestling.
That's kind of where it ends. Like everything else from
top to bottom. He can keep it from all of

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his beliefs and values and all the rest of the
garbage he propagates. No, no, but yeah, you know that
they're going to actually do some kind of tribute. USA
Network even on X put out something about the dog.
It's getting ridiculous, and he's putting out all He's sitting

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there with a dog and pushing it on a swing.
You see that one. I think Seampunk actually has a
video or a picture of him pushing the dog on
the swing. That is biology and just your wiring calling
to you that, hey, you know you should probably pro
create here with actual human beings. So your brain latches

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onto something that you know innately that you should have,
you should do, But it latches onto a dog to
fill that hole that can never be filled with anything
but a human child. Now, I'm not saying everybody must
have children, but most of us have the innate drive.
Most of us just have the it just built in.

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You don't even have to think about it. Most not everybody,
most of us do, and those that don't and try
to to supplant a dog for a human as if
it has the same worth it doesn't. Yeah, I mean
you are. You're fooling yourself and you're just you're completely

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appropriating motherhood for what it actually is. In their minds
or the way that their logic plays out is if
I get a dog and I had no kids, I'd
be a dog dad. If a woman walks into a
shelter and gets a dog, suddenly they're a dog mom
just automatically. That means like anyone can be a mom

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or dad just on a whim. Right, you could just
walk into a store and become a mom or a dad.
Think about that, you just look, anybody can just anyone really,
at any time, you can purchase your way into being
a mom or dad. Now you can be a This
is where people get into semantics, right, Oh, well, it's

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about step parents. And look at the definition of mom
and dad. Mom is short for mother, right, I am
not the mother or father. Dad is the short the
shortened term for father. Father figure is different and mother
figure is different than being the actual mother and father.

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Mom and dad again short from mother and father are
traditional roles for biological moms and dads. You can adopt, yes,
you can adopt, but you would never say that I'm
an adoptee owner. I'm a child owner. Right, but if
you hear pet owner, you don't think twice. Most people

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aren't offended by that. Most people, even though they would
like to be called mom, pet dog, or dog dad,
if you just said pet owner, like, you know, that's
accurate because it was a it was very much an
accepted term and still is. When you you go to
a store or you go to a breeder and you

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get a dog or a cat or whatever animal like,
you're that you're the owner. You would not say the
thing the same thing about a child. You see the
difference already in how you view the different species. So
it's it's become a term that I think a lot
of childless I mean, I'm just gonna call this what

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it is. It's a lot of childless people that are
trying to fill a hole that they can't fill so
and be in a role that they can't or aren't
willing to be in, so they try to use a
dog as a supplant meant of a child, and again

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that I understand the need for that, but you're just wrong.
You're just wrong, you know. So as far as being
a mom or you're not. You may fill some of
the tasks of what moms and dads do caring for it,
feeding it, but there's a lot more to feeding and

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caring for a child than there is a dog. The
requirements and depth of things you need to do are
quite different. So it cheapens what mom and dad means
when people say that, and it also wants to they're
trying to be part of a category that they can't

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be in. You're you're not you know. It's like being
in a in a club and you're not invited and
you're not you're not. All right, So very good, very good. Uh,
if you want to see some of the really really
tough stuff on X that's not tough, but the more
vile stuff, I mean, boy oh boy, check out my

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X speed. It's pretty pretty revealing, pretty revealing. It's not
all about wrestling, obviously, so if you go there and
you're like, oh, I don't want to follow this is
not all about wrestling, well yeah, I mean I warned you,
so it's on you. It's on you. But all right,
that's enough for me. I appreciate all of the emails.
Keep them coming. As I said, if you send it

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