November 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Let's talk Monday Night Raw that aired November 24th, 2025. The final Raw before this weekend's major PLE, Survivor Series. One that saw Brock Lesnar slip and fall, more tournament matches and the Men's & Women's War Games final build.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to
the WWE podcast show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
The one that everybody wants me Stude sixteen.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So I just wiped your ass is my eyn you
can acknowledge me.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And it's time to talk of Monday Night Raw, the
final Raw before this weekend's Survivor series event, headlined by
the two war Games matches for the Men and the
Women that are really all star matchups that you've got
so many big names in both of the matches. This
may be the most star studded War Games matches since
Wargames has been a thing, or at least returned to
(00:57):
the WWE mainstream. Is it's got to result in something massive.
It has to result in wrestlemany implications, and we're gonna
find out what those are on Saturday. But first, but first,
we had a unintentionally hilarious moment on Monday Night Raw
(01:17):
with brock Lesner falling down in his entrance at the
very very very end of Raw. After the credits hit
the screen, you think it's over, and nope, here comes
brock Lesner and he slips on the entrance after doing
his little jump and then he comes back and he
(01:39):
talks about how it's something sticky. Is there something sticky
on the on the ground or whatever. No, No, if
it was sticky, Brock, you wouldn't have slipped like you
were on ice. Right, it's something, It is clearly something.
You would think something that was, you know, either on
his shoe or on the stage that was not sticky.
(02:03):
Sticky means stick right. Sticky is like gum or like
a tar or something. So he slipped like he was
on a bowling alley and fell backwards, and I mean
I laughed out loud. It was a Tightest World Slide
type of moment. I haven't seen something that hilarious since
Titus World Slide. Is it as funny as Tightest World Slide? No?
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But it rivaled it because when is the last time
you saw brock Lester unintentionally fall down, much less fall
down in his entrance? Rock Lester has been around for
twenty one years in WW more than that, twenty twenty
three years since two thousand and two. I've never seen
him do that ever. And he tried to make a
(02:49):
light of it, Paul him, it was just like, what
the hell's going on? There's already a ton of memes
of like sub zero shooting some ice down at his feet,
and I mean he's going to become more of that,
you know, moving forward, some hilarious stuff. But if you
didn't laugh at that, I mean, I don't know how
you didn't, It's gonna get funnier with time. I mean,
(03:12):
just Brocklster fall and he doesn't even fall forward, he
falls backwards. How does he fall backwards? How does that happen?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
My god, you you could have him, I mean, and
we have. We've had him do thousands of entrances. Not
once has he done that. So an unintentionally, obviously not
pre planned or manufactured moment here with brock Lesnar slipping
like he's on ice and then putting the cowboy hat
on bron Breaker in kind of just a reflex moment
(03:46):
to get the attention off of him. I guess I'm
not sure, but oh it's great. It was a great,
great moment under aw one of those just gifts from
the wrestling gods. But we have a lot more serious
stuff to talk about with wargame games. We've got the
bill to the men's and the women's matches. As I said,
the predictable brawls that usually do happen prior to the
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War Games, where everybody is having standoffs and brawls and
polar part brawls and advantage matches, which, as I've said,
advantage matches mean absolutely nothing. They are completely imaginary. Even
if this was to be believed a real competition, there
is no true advantage at all. But we had those.
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We had some interesting words from aj Lee as well.
Really a fun raw, more a bigger raw, much bigger
raw than even I expected going into Oklahoma City from
last week's Madison Square Garden blockbuster. Now, not all was
good here. We had some weird stuff, kind of a
(04:50):
throwback to a Vince McMahon stunt with the midget being
brought out as John Cena during the Dominic mysterio segment.
We'll talk about that. Not a fan really of that,
despite how well Dominic's doing and he's about to break
out in a big way. But it was a lot
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of positive I thought, not as good of a show
as last week, but last week I think is the
high watermark for the year. So with all that said,
welcome to the show. This may be an abbreviated type
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as well. So well, let's go. Time to talk Monday
Night Raw. Now, as I said, Monday Night Raw came
to us from Oklahoma City and Roman Reigns comes out
and he told the fans to acknowledge him. In the
(06:18):
entrance of Cody Roads played, he headed to the ring
and they kind of stared off at one another, and
Cody asked the Oklahoma City crowd. I mean, I'm not
even gonna tell you what he said, because you know why,
it's stupid. I remain constant in that assertion of his
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question he asks the crowd, which is just a stupid question.
You can't ask a crowd a yes or no. I'm sorry,
you can only ask a crowd answ or no question
when it comes to this. You can't leave an open
ended question to the crowd. Everybody should just shut up.
When he said, why are we cheering? Why are we cheering?
When he asks you this doesn't make sense asking you
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an open ended question. Okay, So Cody asked what's in
it for Rains? Rain said he'd been in the war
that Cody was just joining. Rain said he doesn't like Cody,
who doesn't like him, and they don't know each other well.
Roman said, neither of them play around when it comes
to their family. He said half the team is his family,
(07:22):
and he's been invested in the USLOS for a long
time and would see that investment through. And he said, understood.
All I can say is welcome to my team. And
Cody offered a handshake that Roman did not accept. But
Punk comes out and he talked about the War Games
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match being the most star studded in history, which is true?
Which is I mean? Yeah for sure? Once in the ring.
He then looked at Rains and asked, is it great
to be alive on Monday night in Oklahoma City or what? Okay, okay,
I can't stand at the pandering stuff, sorry, the stuff
that just gets every local crowd behind them. That's okay.
(08:06):
So Punk looked at Rains and then Rhodes and said, okay,
see acknowledge us. And he said he was happy that
Cody and had Roman's word. He said he didn't need
Roman's word because he saved his life last year in wargames,
and Rains said Punk ruined his a few months later.
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Seem Punk then took issue with Cody calling it his team.
When he offered Rains the handshake, Punk held up his
title and told Cody that he can be the quarterback
on Fridays, but he's the champion on raw. That was good,
good kind of statement. There a couple of statements there
by Punk saying that you know, you may be the
quarterback on Fridays, but you know, well, when you're here,
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I run this team essentially on Mondays, also talking about
how it's not his team. Cody just kind of just
absorbed or assumed that that was his team, and Punk
calling him out was a nice moment. So Roman said
they might as well take them out and have the
(09:10):
measuring contest, and Rain said he doesn't like Cody or
Punk and he hates the Vision and Paul Hayman more
than he hates him, more than he hates them. They said,
since we're being honest here, that title would look so
much better on my shoulders. And he left, but he
didn't know. It wasn't clear who he was directing that
statement at. I would imagine it's punk because we've seen
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Cody Roman enough, especially around WrestleMania a time. We can't
go for a hat trick here with Cody Roman. I
don't think. I don't think anybody wants that, although they
do work well together Cody Roman Part three. I don't
need it. I don't think you guys want it. Yes,
their WrestleMania thirty nine match was good. WrestleMania forty match
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will live on forever, especially with the ending and and
everything else. But I don't need another one. But we'll see.
I would imagine again he was talking to see him punk.
But then we had Paul Hammond and Drew Still technically
suspended backstage, and he said the only reason McIntyre was
(10:18):
allowed in the arena is that he selected McIntyre for
his The Advantage match. Haymond said that if McIntyre left
the room and said boot to the wrong person. He
could be kicked out of the building. All right, Um yeah,
a little bit of Logan Paul backstage, and he assumed
that Brock would team with McIntyre. Hayman told Logan that
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Lesner was mad about what happened with Rains last week,
and Haymon told Logan that Lesner's name shouldn't come out
of his mouth. Okay, bub blah, nothing really serious here,
all right. We then have Gunther versus Carmelo Hayes in
a Last Time is Now tournament quarterfinal. Match went seventeen minutes,
(11:02):
very good, very good. Carmela Hayes may have had his
best match, or I'm sorry, best is a bit subjective,
his biggest match to date here with Gunther on a
big raw in a tournament that does have some meaning,
but with a big opponent with a lot of time
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given seventeen minutes here and Gunther does beat Hayes after
he power power bombed him and pinned him. A good
match again, one that Carmelo Hayes can build upon even
in a loss. Here Gunther advances and so far no
weird replacements so far, no Edge so far, no Chris Jericho,
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although w w Kit keeps putting out these teaser trailers
of remember, they put out some guy like walking and
then they put out some like wineglass that a woman
is holding, and I don't know what that's about, but
I would imagine the other one is about Chris Jericho.
That's what everybody seems to be believing. I'm still holding
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out hope against hope, that Edge is seeing his final
opponents somehow, I'm still holding out that that hope. But
we'll see. So good match here, really good. Some of
the spots here were Hayes going up for the first
forty eight. Gunther caught him, dumped him over the top rope,
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and then Hayes went up again. Gun Through hit him
with a chest a chop in the chest, and then
he moved and Hayes jumped over the top rope, tried
to ddt gun Through on the apron, but he took
the move kind of weird, and Hayes returned to the
ring and hit gun Through with a flip dive. Some
good spots here. The really good match. I thought it
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was one that again elevated both men the right person
one everybody wins in this one, all right, we have
have Dominic in the ring, and he spoke about how
he would beat John Cena to regain the Interconnmental Championship
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and continue to be the greatest mysterio of all time.
He talked about how Sina wasn't there, but he couldn't
even blame him for not wanting to come to this dump.
Uh dom dom Dom. You know, I've been complaining that
they shouldn't turn him back heel or just let him
be babyface, But this to me is not heal dom.
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This is actually it's it makes me laugh. He makes
me laugh in this this persona he's in, even though
it's it's in, it's designed to engage people to react negatively,
but I still find him incredibly endearing. So that's just
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my analysis. Now, Johnson's music entrance played, fans exploded. But
if you knew John Cena's schedule and how he had
been adhering to it and there had been no surprise appearances,
you knew that johnre wasn't really there and he's probably
gonna get trolled in some way, And that's exactly what
happened here with one of the midgets from probably a
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local wrestling show comes out dressed as John Cena, and
I don't. I never liked it when they did this
with anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I know.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
They've done it with Kine, They've done it with I
think they've done it with Sean. Sean Michaels has done
it with his opponents back in the day. They've done
it with Booker t. I never found it entertaining funny.
It doesn't add anything to the show for me. I
can't believe it actually passed creative here. It does fit
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Dom's character, and I'll give them that, but is that
really worth still bringing out a midget that makes it
feel like a Vince McMahon holdover. For all of the
talk of TKO and their executives trying to move away
from what Vince has done and everything created and we'll
take it from here. And this is outdated, this is antiquated,
(15:03):
blah blah blah everything the pls. You're you're gonna bring
back a spot that Vince McMahon, I mean, he would have.
He's probably sitting at home, Vince, Vince is watching. I
bet you he is. He's probably saying himself, Ah, now
that's some good ship, you know. I'm sure. I'm sure Vince,
this is this is read up Vince's alley. I have
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never enjoyed the midget stuff in any capacity for anything.
Even Hornswaggle, I never really enjoyed. I never found him
really entertaining. Uh it just it's a makes a mockery
of wrestling in my mind. But I know it's there
for entertainment purposes. It's there for advance of storyline and
all the rest. But okay, so we had Dominic say
(15:47):
that I should drop you where I stand, but I'm
gonna save my energy and let you walk away. And then, uh,
the little Scenea said it was a fine speech coming
from the worst mysterial of all time. And he told
dom told Little Sena to stick to the plan. And
Little Sena said that if dom wouldn't fight him in
front of the good people in Oklahoma City, then he
(16:10):
could come get some right now and the champions here.
That's that allowed or resulted in dom kicking the midget
little Sena. I know in this description it says little Sena,
I mean it's a midget by definition, I guess midget
is let me let me guess some people are offended
by that. Well, let me say it some more. Then
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the midget version of John Cena was knocked over. Dom
hit him hit a five knuckle shuffle and then Barrett
said Dom was making quote short work loll of little Sena.
Dom placed Sena, the little Sena, the midget against the ropes,
hit him with a six one nine hit a frog splash,
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and that was it. I mean, the announcers were talking
about how despicable this was and all the rest of it,
I mean selling how bad of a guy Dom is
being a tough guy against a man who is a
tenth of his size. But fine, it it is. It
did serve the purpose of getting Dom some heat and
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also building for an angle where half of the people
involved are not there, meaning Seena is not there, so
you have to continue to build it. And a video
package wasn't just going to do it. And Dom's on
fire right now, so you want him in person, but
if he doesn't have Sena there, how are you gonna
work it? And they found a way to do it,
so yeah, all right. We have then had Ray Maisterial
(17:38):
versus j D mcdonnaugh here and the match was I
don't have a time stamp here, but these two pros
you can watch them for a while. I mean you
can watch them for an hour. I say that a
lot about some of these matchups every week, but this
is another one. You can add it to the list
two professionals. JD can work with anybody. A Ray is
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an all time great that is frozen in time where
he just does not age, He does not miss a step.
Some whatever is in the water that Ray masterial is drinking,
I want some of it. He is timeless.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Eventually it's all gonna come crashing down at some point
because he is still a human being. But for the
time that we're enjoying him here where he's just timeless.
I mean, I love it. And for JD to be
able to work with him and have some some some
rub from from Ray is obviously good for him. Ray
winning was also the right call JD. I don't think
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is ready for that kind of push just yet, to
just outright beat a legend. Uh clean. So good match,
Good match. It ended with hitting Ray hitting the six
to one nine and then the typical you know, over
the top rope splash one, two, three. All right, So
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we then have Raquel Rodriguez complaining to Adam Pierce that
Nikki Bella in her theater in her match. Pierce said
he agreed and she would be in the mix for
another title shot. So let's continue, all right. Brock Lesson
was shown walking backstage, met up with Paul Hayman the
exchange nods before entering Lesler's room dressing room. And that's
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when we had the Kabuki Warriors making their entrance, coming
out of a break here and they joined their wargames
teammates of Lynch, Nijack's and Lash Legend, and Lynch said
she'd be been legally advised not to talk about her
loss to Maxine Dupree, and Lynch spoke about the strength
of the team she assembled and said she won most
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of her matches against OSCA, but she had to work
for it. And okay, so you know the opposing teams
coming out, and they do, and we have a Jay
Lee skipping to the ring while her teammates were behind
her and they all joined her, and Lee said the
old heir would have torn Lynch's face off, and she said, quote,
(20:08):
lucky for you, therapy works. And Lee said Lynch's comments
were set in fear, and Lee said she knows who
she is, and she said she doesn't have to bark
like an angry Chihuahua she bites, and she said Lynch
made a mistake of locking herself in a cage with her,
and aj Lee said she knows she's not the only
(20:30):
one who wants to knock Lynch off her pedestal, and
that's when Ria Ripley got the mic Ripley slammed the
microphone onto Jack's head, and then the two teams predictably
brawl and the baby faces stand tall. There was a
at the end, a sky hitting a moon salt on
the oscar, and Lynch ended up being the only one unscathed.
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Another one of those embarrassing moon salts where everyone must
fall to the ground even if you're fifty feet away.
We've seen that so many times. It's not just to
the women. I mean, you know, the women do it
almost as often as the men. When these spots happen
where there's just no way that in any reality beyond
(21:15):
one that you're just manipulating, like pro wrestling, that that
person would fall down because of anything you're doing. I mean,
and if you're anywhere in the vicinity, you just the
rule as you fall down. It looked bad, but I
understand the spot. I understand why they did what they did. Now,
Babyfaces stand tall. They're clearly building to aj Lee and
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Becky after this Wargames match, likely one on one, unless
Becky decides to chase reclaiming her intercontinental title from Maxine Dupree.
That's also very possible, but it does seem right now
that aj Lee and Becky Lynch are on a collision
course to a one on one post war Games, which
is a matchup that I think is well suited for
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both women. Now, what will they be fighting over Pride?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Is?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay? Yeah, I don't think there's enough women's matches that
have nothing to do with the belt and just about
personal issues that can be a thing that can actually
be more interesting instead of having a belt distracting from
an otherwise personal issue, which is aj Lee and Becky
Lynch hate each other. Obviously they had the tag team
(22:25):
match with their husbands and with Seth not there, it's
now aj Lee against Becky and hopefully they continue that
after as far as all therapy thing goes. I know
that aj Lee did make an appearance on Stephanie McMahon's
podcast and they talked about the infamous tweet that aj
(22:46):
Lee put out back in twenty fifteen about how the
women deserve a chance and how the some of the
women are involved in the highest rated segmgments you know,
at the same time the men are, and yet they're
not paid the same you know. I know this tweet
(23:07):
is a decade old, but it still is a I
think a relevant response that I have to this the women.
First of all, yes, we all know the fans are
really the ones that decided that the women need to
be showcased more and in a lot of ways. I
think they still need some work on that front. But
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everything's earned. Number One, You aren't You don't deserve anything.
You aren't owed anything, despite what this generation and culture
tells you. You aren't owed anything. I know that hurts
a lot of tummies. But also just taking a part
her tweet that she said to Stephanie ten years ago,
(23:51):
where she's saying that, oh, well, the men are are
getting paid a lot more even though the women are
in the same segments that are the highest rated. Whatever. Right, Well, well,
let me ask AJ, and I would ask AJ this now,
just as I probably would have back in twenty fifteen. Okay, fine,
the women are in the same segments, but why here's
the key question. Why are those segments so highly rated?
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Why were they Is it because of the women that
were in those segments at the time, or or maybe
maybe just maybe it was because of the men's programs
that were going on that were much more interesting at
the time, and the women just happened to be a
part of the segment. Had the women not been a
part of the segment, they wouldn't have the ratings wouldn't
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have been affected one way or the other. That's how
it was treated back then and to some degree still today. Okay,
I mean the men are still This is just an observation.
I know we're not supposed to notice this. You always
get in trouble for noticing the men's. Men's segments and
(24:58):
men's programs still take priority over the women's generally speaking,
and I think that will generally always be the case.
Why becos because men's wrestling generally is more interesting generally.
I'm not saying that women haven't had great success, that
they haven't had good storylines and at times have really
(25:21):
grabbed the headlines and made a lot of history and
did all the rest. But it's kind of the same
concept when it comes to just you know the w NBA,
or why there's no women's you know, a nationally televised
version of the MLB, or you know why there's not
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women's NFL. Like, men's athletics is generally much more interesting
than women's. It's just the way it is. Now, why
is that, Well, that's because men are just different. Okay,
doesn't mean we're better. Although men are just physically strong
and we all know that, but and generally more athletic.
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I think some of that is inevitably going to result
and men just having better matches, not all the time.
This is not across the board thing. I know some
of some people are gonna lose their minds over this.
I don't care, but it's it's just reality. Men generally
have better or have more capability, more potential to have
(26:27):
better matches because of their physical superiority. That doesn't mean
they're better on the mic necessarily, of course, though we've
seen women that are much better on the mic. May
J Lee's I mean I love her on the mic.
Ria Ripley has improved greatly, Ni Jackson, her credit has improved.
Becky Lynch I think has found her voice again. You know,
go down the line but when it comes to n
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ring and when it comes to just generally kind of
like who is going to lead the company? You know,
no one would say this out loud today because for
some reason it's frowned upon. But the men, I think,
will always, for more often than not, be in that position.
And it's just the way it is. It's just how
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it is. If you put all the women on the
show in the same position that you put to men,
and you reverse the roles, I think the ratings would decrease.
I do, because men's is just its Men's wrestling is
just more interesting. Now, you're not supposed to say that
out loud, but it has been and for aj Lee
(27:31):
even now to say that, oh well, women should be No,
you are a side. You're kind of a byproduct of,
or a kind of a background piece to a high
rated segment, you know, back in twenty fifteen. Right, So
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that is what I would ask, is like, Okay, no,
you don't deserve that. You're not causing the ratings. You're
just privileged enough to be a part of the higher
rated segments, you know. So also now that if I
haven't already pissed off enough people here, which is fine,
It's not my goal to piss people off. It's just
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I've got no got no reason to just hold anything
back here. And I think some of you are going
to relate and be like, yeah, that's probably true, and
others are gonna think it's some kind of chauvinistic statement.
It doesn't matter to me. But my point I was
going to make is some people are assuming that it's
the return of Ronda Rowsey in that teaser that WB
(28:38):
put out. I really hope that it's not Ronda Rowsey.
I have been very much an anti Rousy proponent for
a long time now. She had a nice brief kind
of introduction and first part of her career, and then
it was just a dumpster fire after that. And she
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he's just a mess of a human being. I mean,
she's a mess. I don't need her immaturity. She still
acts like a fourteen year old girl at times. She's
disrespected the business a lot. Not that that matters anymore
to even the executives at TKO. So I hope it's
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not Ronda Rousey. We don't need her. The women certainly
don't need her. They've moved on and done just fine
without Ronda Rousey. So I'm just very very very much
hoping it's not Ronda. I know some of you love Ronda,
and she has certainly named brand, value and notoriety and
(29:44):
all the rest of it. So maybe they're overlooking that
because they feel shul bringing eyeballs. But I just don't.
I don't like her as a person, I don't like
her as a as a wrestler. I'm very very much
against bringing Ronda back, but it's of course not my decision.
So all right, let's continue, boy, if you guys are
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still listening, So Penta versus Solo Soca last time is
now tournament quarterfinal. The match didn't last too long before,
of course, the injury to Penta with him doing a
hurricanana or off of the barricade onto the floor and
he landed awkwardly. I'm not sure I would imagine it's
(30:28):
his shoulder. We'll have to get a much more complete analysis,
medical analysis. I'm sure we'll give us an update. Penta.
It was a real injury. This was not staged. If
you saw it, you knew Penta shuffer suffer some kind
of serious shoulder or arm injury. It looked like maybe
a collarbone break. Maybe you shoulder separation maybe a I mean,
(30:51):
I'm not I'm just speculating, but yeah, they had to
stop the match. Solo was not happy, everybody was not happy,
and it's just one of those freak things. And it's always,
you know, when you look at the injuries, it's usually,
I shouldn't say always. Usually it's not the fantastical, big
(31:12):
spots that injuries occur. It's the common stuff, common stuff
that person's done a million times. It's the stuff that
they just are so used to doing that it's just
the one time that they land wrong and they twist wrong,
and there's a lot of not a lot of room
for error and a lot of the maneuvers that are done.
So best of luck to Penta in his recovery. I
(31:36):
know that. You know he was very frustrated, you could tell.
So all right. We then have Ivy Nile approach Dupree
and Nile walked away after she told her that her title,
that title is hers. Roxane Perez and Rock cal Rodriguez
(31:56):
approached Maxine and Perez was talking smack when Pierce returned
and asked if there was a problem, and Pierce said
Dupree should call Natalia now. Which he started to do.
So okay, so you kind of know this is gonna
be a multi woman matchup, I would imagine for the
IC title. All right, Logan Paul and Drew McIntyre versus
Jimmy and Jay Uso in a war Games advantage match.
(32:20):
So the match went seventeen minutes with Logan, Paul and
Drew mcatyre winning in a very good match. I mean, yeah,
four absolute professionals in here. Logan Paul, who has no
business being as good as he is. You have Drew McIntyre,
who's I think at his peak right now, Jimmy and
Jay Uso, who are much better as a team than
they are solo. I think, no pun intended. So the
(32:44):
fans chanted OTC. They got their wish. As Roman Reigns
comes out, he hit breaker and read with Superman punches,
and then he clotheslined with Logan over the top. Brock
Lessner's music hits and he flipped and fell. As I
said earlier in the beginning of the show, just just hilarious.
(33:06):
I mean, I know that at one point two we
had Lesner's pants rip, which was on SmackDown how long
ago now, But this was good. I mean Lesner just
made the segment here, but he does, you know. He
pretends to walk out and come with this team, but
(33:27):
his team ends up going in front of him, and
brock Lesner backs off and they brawled with the the
opposing team to end the show. So brock Lessler doesn't
really get physically involved here, but he does get physically
involved with himself. That sounds awful, but you know what
I mean. So that's raw, a solid raw, I'd say,
(33:49):
a solid go home sell you a type of show
to get us ready for war games. It was one
that I think is it sets us up nicely for
Saturday and Friday. Of course they have one more shot
at selling us the pl E. Now, I hope that
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The one that everybody wants me Stude sixteen.
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So I just wiped your ass is my eyn you
can acknowledge me.
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And it's time to talk of Monday Night Raw, the
final Raw before this weekend's Survivor series event, headlined by
the two war Games matches for the Men and the
Women that are really all star matchups that you've got
so many big names in both of the matches. This
may be the most star studded War Games matches since
Wargames has been a thing, or at least returned to
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the WWE mainstream. Is it's got to result in something massive.
It has to result in wrestlemany implications, and we're gonna
find out what those are on Saturday. But first, but first,
we had a unintentionally hilarious moment on Monday Night Raw
(01:17):
with brock Lesner falling down in his entrance at the
very very very end of Raw. After the credits hit
the screen, you think it's over, and nope, here comes
brock Lesner and he slips on the entrance after doing
his little jump and then he comes back and he
(01:39):
talks about how it's something sticky. Is there something sticky
on the on the ground or whatever. No, No, if
it was sticky, Brock, you wouldn't have slipped like you
were on ice. Right, it's something, It is clearly something.
You would think something that was, you know, either on
his shoe or on the stage that was not sticky.
(02:03):
Sticky means stick right. Sticky is like gum or like
a tar or something. So he slipped like he was
on a bowling alley and fell backwards, and I mean
I laughed out loud. It was a Tightest World Slide
type of moment. I haven't seen something that hilarious since
Titus World Slide. Is it as funny as Tightest World Slide? No?
(02:28):
But it rivaled it because when is the last time
you saw brock Lester unintentionally fall down, much less fall
down in his entrance? Rock Lester has been around for
twenty one years in WW more than that, twenty twenty
three years since two thousand and two. I've never seen
him do that ever. And he tried to make a
(02:49):
light of it, Paul him, it was just like, what
the hell's going on? There's already a ton of memes
of like sub zero shooting some ice down at his feet,
and I mean he's going to become more of that,
you know, moving forward, some hilarious stuff. But if you
didn't laugh at that, I mean, I don't know how
you didn't, It's gonna get funnier with time. I mean,
(03:12):
just Brocklster fall and he doesn't even fall forward, he
falls backwards. How does he fall backwards? How does that happen?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
My god, you you could have him, I mean, and
we have. We've had him do thousands of entrances. Not
once has he done that. So an unintentionally, obviously not
pre planned or manufactured moment here with brock Lesnar slipping
like he's on ice and then putting the cowboy hat
on bron Breaker in kind of just a reflex moment
(03:46):
to get the attention off of him. I guess I'm
not sure, but oh it's great. It was a great,
great moment under aw one of those just gifts from
the wrestling gods. But we have a lot more serious
stuff to talk about with wargame games. We've got the
bill to the men's and the women's matches. As I said,
the predictable brawls that usually do happen prior to the
(04:09):
War Games, where everybody is having standoffs and brawls and
polar part brawls and advantage matches, which, as I've said,
advantage matches mean absolutely nothing. They are completely imaginary. Even
if this was to be believed a real competition, there
is no true advantage at all. But we had those.
(04:30):
We had some interesting words from aj Lee as well.
Really a fun raw, more a bigger raw, much bigger
raw than even I expected going into Oklahoma City from
last week's Madison Square Garden blockbuster. Now, not all was
good here. We had some weird stuff, kind of a
(04:50):
throwback to a Vince McMahon stunt with the midget being
brought out as John Cena during the Dominic mysterio segment.
We'll talk about that. Not a fan really of that,
despite how well Dominic's doing and he's about to break
out in a big way. But it was a lot
(05:11):
of positive I thought, not as good of a show
as last week, but last week I think is the
high watermark for the year. So with all that said,
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as well. So well, let's go. Time to talk Monday
Night Raw. Now, as I said, Monday Night Raw came
to us from Oklahoma City and Roman Reigns comes out
and he told the fans to acknowledge him. In the
(06:18):
entrance of Cody Roads played, he headed to the ring
and they kind of stared off at one another, and
Cody asked the Oklahoma City crowd. I mean, I'm not
even gonna tell you what he said, because you know why,
it's stupid. I remain constant in that assertion of his
(06:39):
question he asks the crowd, which is just a stupid question.
You can't ask a crowd a yes or no. I'm sorry,
you can only ask a crowd answ or no question
when it comes to this. You can't leave an open
ended question to the crowd. Everybody should just shut up.
When he said, why are we cheering? Why are we cheering?
When he asks you this doesn't make sense asking you
(07:00):
an open ended question. Okay, So Cody asked what's in
it for Rains? Rain said he'd been in the war
that Cody was just joining. Rain said he doesn't like Cody,
who doesn't like him, and they don't know each other well.
Roman said, neither of them play around when it comes
to their family. He said half the team is his family,
(07:22):
and he's been invested in the USLOS for a long
time and would see that investment through. And he said, understood.
All I can say is welcome to my team. And
Cody offered a handshake that Roman did not accept. But
Punk comes out and he talked about the War Games
(07:44):
match being the most star studded in history, which is true?
Which is I mean? Yeah for sure? Once in the ring.
He then looked at Rains and asked, is it great
to be alive on Monday night in Oklahoma City or what? Okay, okay,
I can't stand at the pandering stuff, sorry, the stuff
that just gets every local crowd behind them. That's okay.
(08:06):
So Punk looked at Rains and then Rhodes and said, okay,
see acknowledge us. And he said he was happy that
Cody and had Roman's word. He said he didn't need
Roman's word because he saved his life last year in wargames,
and Rains said Punk ruined his a few months later.
(08:26):
Seem Punk then took issue with Cody calling it his team.
When he offered Rains the handshake, Punk held up his
title and told Cody that he can be the quarterback
on Fridays, but he's the champion on raw. That was good,
good kind of statement. There a couple of statements there
by Punk saying that you know, you may be the
quarterback on Fridays, but you know, well, when you're here,
(08:49):
I run this team essentially on Mondays, also talking about
how it's not his team. Cody just kind of just
absorbed or assumed that that was his team, and Punk
calling him out was a nice moment. So Roman said
they might as well take them out and have the
(09:10):
measuring contest, and Rain said he doesn't like Cody or
Punk and he hates the Vision and Paul Hayman more
than he hates him, more than he hates them. They said,
since we're being honest here, that title would look so
much better on my shoulders. And he left, but he
didn't know. It wasn't clear who he was directing that
statement at. I would imagine it's punk because we've seen
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Cody Roman enough, especially around WrestleMania a time. We can't
go for a hat trick here with Cody Roman. I
don't think. I don't think anybody wants that, although they
do work well together Cody Roman Part three. I don't
need it. I don't think you guys want it. Yes,
their WrestleMania thirty nine match was good. WrestleMania forty match
(09:56):
will live on forever, especially with the ending and and
everything else. But I don't need another one. But we'll see.
I would imagine again he was talking to see him punk.
But then we had Paul Hammond and Drew Still technically
suspended backstage, and he said the only reason McIntyre was
(10:18):
allowed in the arena is that he selected McIntyre for
his The Advantage match. Haymond said that if McIntyre left
the room and said boot to the wrong person. He
could be kicked out of the building. All right, Um yeah,
a little bit of Logan Paul backstage, and he assumed
that Brock would team with McIntyre. Hayman told Logan that
(10:42):
Lesner was mad about what happened with Rains last week,
and Haymon told Logan that Lesner's name shouldn't come out
of his mouth. Okay, bub blah, nothing really serious here,
all right. We then have Gunther versus Carmelo Hayes in
a Last Time is Now tournament quarterfinal. Match went seventeen minutes,
(11:02):
very good, very good. Carmela Hayes may have had his
best match, or I'm sorry, best is a bit subjective,
his biggest match to date here with Gunther on a
big raw in a tournament that does have some meaning,
but with a big opponent with a lot of time
(11:24):
given seventeen minutes here and Gunther does beat Hayes after
he power power bombed him and pinned him. A good
match again, one that Carmelo Hayes can build upon even
in a loss. Here Gunther advances and so far no
weird replacements so far, no Edge so far, no Chris Jericho,
(11:45):
although w w Kit keeps putting out these teaser trailers
of remember, they put out some guy like walking and
then they put out some like wineglass that a woman
is holding, and I don't know what that's about, but
I would imagine the other one is about Chris Jericho.
That's what everybody seems to be believing. I'm still holding
(12:07):
out hope against hope, that Edge is seeing his final
opponents somehow, I'm still holding out that that hope. But
we'll see. So good match here, really good. Some of
the spots here were Hayes going up for the first
forty eight. Gunther caught him, dumped him over the top rope,
(12:28):
and then Hayes went up again. Gun Through hit him
with a chest a chop in the chest, and then
he moved and Hayes jumped over the top rope, tried
to ddt gun Through on the apron, but he took
the move kind of weird, and Hayes returned to the
ring and hit gun Through with a flip dive. Some
good spots here. The really good match. I thought it
(12:49):
was one that again elevated both men the right person
one everybody wins in this one, all right, we have
have Dominic in the ring, and he spoke about how
he would beat John Cena to regain the Interconnmental Championship
(13:09):
and continue to be the greatest mysterio of all time.
He talked about how Sina wasn't there, but he couldn't
even blame him for not wanting to come to this dump.
Uh dom dom Dom. You know, I've been complaining that
they shouldn't turn him back heel or just let him
be babyface, But this to me is not heal dom.
(13:30):
This is actually it's it makes me laugh. He makes
me laugh in this this persona he's in, even though
it's it's in, it's designed to engage people to react negatively,
but I still find him incredibly endearing. So that's just
(13:50):
my analysis. Now, Johnson's music entrance played, fans exploded. But
if you knew John Cena's schedule and how he had
been adhering to it and there had been no surprise appearances,
you knew that johnre wasn't really there and he's probably
gonna get trolled in some way, And that's exactly what
happened here with one of the midgets from probably a
(14:13):
local wrestling show comes out dressed as John Cena, and
I don't. I never liked it when they did this
with anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I know.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
They've done it with Kine, They've done it with I
think they've done it with Sean. Sean Michaels has done
it with his opponents back in the day. They've done
it with Booker t. I never found it entertaining funny.
It doesn't add anything to the show for me. I
can't believe it actually passed creative here. It does fit
(14:41):
Dom's character, and I'll give them that, but is that
really worth still bringing out a midget that makes it
feel like a Vince McMahon holdover. For all of the
talk of TKO and their executives trying to move away
from what Vince has done and everything created and we'll
take it from here. And this is outdated, this is antiquated,
(15:03):
blah blah blah everything the pls. You're you're gonna bring
back a spot that Vince McMahon, I mean, he would have.
He's probably sitting at home, Vince, Vince is watching. I
bet you he is. He's probably saying himself, Ah, now
that's some good ship, you know. I'm sure. I'm sure Vince,
this is this is read up Vince's alley. I have
(15:24):
never enjoyed the midget stuff in any capacity for anything.
Even Hornswaggle, I never really enjoyed. I never found him
really entertaining. Uh it just it's a makes a mockery
of wrestling in my mind. But I know it's there
for entertainment purposes. It's there for advance of storyline and
all the rest. But okay, so we had Dominic say
(15:47):
that I should drop you where I stand, but I'm
gonna save my energy and let you walk away. And then, uh,
the little Scenea said it was a fine speech coming
from the worst mysterial of all time. And he told
dom told Little Sena to stick to the plan. And
Little Sena said that if dom wouldn't fight him in
front of the good people in Oklahoma City, then he
(16:10):
could come get some right now and the champions here.
That's that allowed or resulted in dom kicking the midget
little Sena. I know in this description it says little Sena,
I mean it's a midget by definition, I guess midget
is let me let me guess some people are offended
by that. Well, let me say it some more. Then
(16:30):
the midget version of John Cena was knocked over. Dom
hit him hit a five knuckle shuffle and then Barrett
said Dom was making quote short work loll of little Sena.
Dom placed Sena, the little Sena, the midget against the ropes,
hit him with a six one nine hit a frog splash,
(16:52):
and that was it. I mean, the announcers were talking
about how despicable this was and all the rest of it,
I mean selling how bad of a guy Dom is
being a tough guy against a man who is a
tenth of his size. But fine, it it is. It
did serve the purpose of getting Dom some heat and
(17:15):
also building for an angle where half of the people
involved are not there, meaning Seena is not there, so
you have to continue to build it. And a video
package wasn't just going to do it. And Dom's on
fire right now, so you want him in person, but
if he doesn't have Sena there, how are you gonna
work it? And they found a way to do it,
so yeah, all right. We have then had Ray Maisterial
(17:38):
versus j D mcdonnaugh here and the match was I
don't have a time stamp here, but these two pros
you can watch them for a while. I mean you
can watch them for an hour. I say that a
lot about some of these matchups every week, but this
is another one. You can add it to the list
two professionals. JD can work with anybody. A Ray is
(18:01):
an all time great that is frozen in time where
he just does not age, He does not miss a step.
Some whatever is in the water that Ray masterial is drinking,
I want some of it. He is timeless.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Eventually it's all gonna come crashing down at some point
because he is still a human being. But for the
time that we're enjoying him here where he's just timeless.
I mean, I love it. And for JD to be
able to work with him and have some some some
rub from from Ray is obviously good for him. Ray
winning was also the right call JD. I don't think
(18:37):
is ready for that kind of push just yet, to
just outright beat a legend. Uh clean. So good match,
Good match. It ended with hitting Ray hitting the six
to one nine and then the typical you know, over
the top rope splash one, two, three. All right, So
(18:57):
we then have Raquel Rodriguez complaining to Adam Pierce that
Nikki Bella in her theater in her match. Pierce said
he agreed and she would be in the mix for
another title shot. So let's continue, all right. Brock Lesson
was shown walking backstage, met up with Paul Hayman the
exchange nods before entering Lesler's room dressing room. And that's
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when we had the Kabuki Warriors making their entrance, coming
out of a break here and they joined their wargames
teammates of Lynch, Nijack's and Lash Legend, and Lynch said
she'd be been legally advised not to talk about her
loss to Maxine Dupree, and Lynch spoke about the strength
of the team she assembled and said she won most
(19:44):
of her matches against OSCA, but she had to work
for it. And okay, so you know the opposing teams
coming out, and they do, and we have a Jay
Lee skipping to the ring while her teammates were behind
her and they all joined her, and Lee said the
old heir would have torn Lynch's face off, and she said, quote,
(20:08):
lucky for you, therapy works. And Lee said Lynch's comments
were set in fear, and Lee said she knows who
she is, and she said she doesn't have to bark
like an angry Chihuahua she bites, and she said Lynch
made a mistake of locking herself in a cage with her,
and aj Lee said she knows she's not the only
(20:30):
one who wants to knock Lynch off her pedestal, and
that's when Ria Ripley got the mic Ripley slammed the
microphone onto Jack's head, and then the two teams predictably
brawl and the baby faces stand tall. There was a
at the end, a sky hitting a moon salt on
the oscar, and Lynch ended up being the only one unscathed.
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Another one of those embarrassing moon salts where everyone must
fall to the ground even if you're fifty feet away.
We've seen that so many times. It's not just to
the women. I mean, you know, the women do it
almost as often as the men. When these spots happen
where there's just no way that in any reality beyond
(21:15):
one that you're just manipulating, like pro wrestling, that that
person would fall down because of anything you're doing. I mean,
and if you're anywhere in the vicinity, you just the
rule as you fall down. It looked bad, but I
understand the spot. I understand why they did what they did. Now,
Babyfaces stand tall. They're clearly building to aj Lee and
(21:37):
Becky after this Wargames match, likely one on one, unless
Becky decides to chase reclaiming her intercontinental title from Maxine Dupree.
That's also very possible, but it does seem right now
that aj Lee and Becky Lynch are on a collision
course to a one on one post war Games, which
is a matchup that I think is well suited for
(21:59):
both women. Now, what will they be fighting over Pride?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Is?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay? Yeah, I don't think there's enough women's matches that
have nothing to do with the belt and just about
personal issues that can be a thing that can actually
be more interesting instead of having a belt distracting from
an otherwise personal issue, which is aj Lee and Becky
Lynch hate each other. Obviously they had the tag team
(22:25):
match with their husbands and with Seth not there, it's
now aj Lee against Becky and hopefully they continue that
after as far as all therapy thing goes. I know
that aj Lee did make an appearance on Stephanie McMahon's
podcast and they talked about the infamous tweet that aj
(22:46):
Lee put out back in twenty fifteen about how the
women deserve a chance and how the some of the
women are involved in the highest rated segmgments you know,
at the same time the men are, and yet they're
not paid the same you know. I know this tweet
(23:07):
is a decade old, but it still is a I
think a relevant response that I have to this the women.
First of all, yes, we all know the fans are
really the ones that decided that the women need to
be showcased more and in a lot of ways. I
think they still need some work on that front. But
(23:28):
everything's earned. Number One, You aren't You don't deserve anything.
You aren't owed anything, despite what this generation and culture
tells you. You aren't owed anything. I know that hurts
a lot of tummies. But also just taking a part
her tweet that she said to Stephanie ten years ago,
(23:51):
where she's saying that, oh, well, the men are are
getting paid a lot more even though the women are
in the same segments that are the highest rated. Whatever. Right, Well, well,
let me ask AJ, and I would ask AJ this now,
just as I probably would have back in twenty fifteen. Okay, fine,
the women are in the same segments, but why here's
the key question. Why are those segments so highly rated?
(24:16):
Why were they Is it because of the women that
were in those segments at the time, or or maybe
maybe just maybe it was because of the men's programs
that were going on that were much more interesting at
the time, and the women just happened to be a
part of the segment. Had the women not been a
part of the segment, they wouldn't have the ratings wouldn't
(24:38):
have been affected one way or the other. That's how
it was treated back then and to some degree still today. Okay,
I mean the men are still This is just an observation.
I know we're not supposed to notice this. You always
get in trouble for noticing the men's. Men's segments and
(24:58):
men's programs still take priority over the women's generally speaking,
and I think that will generally always be the case.
Why becos because men's wrestling generally is more interesting generally.
I'm not saying that women haven't had great success, that
they haven't had good storylines and at times have really
(25:21):
grabbed the headlines and made a lot of history and
did all the rest. But it's kind of the same
concept when it comes to just you know the w NBA,
or why there's no women's you know, a nationally televised
version of the MLB, or you know why there's not
(25:42):
women's NFL. Like, men's athletics is generally much more interesting
than women's. It's just the way it is. Now, why
is that, Well, that's because men are just different. Okay,
doesn't mean we're better. Although men are just physically strong
and we all know that, but and generally more athletic.
(26:06):
I think some of that is inevitably going to result
and men just having better matches, not all the time.
This is not across the board thing. I know some
of some people are gonna lose their minds over this.
I don't care, but it's it's just reality. Men generally
have better or have more capability, more potential to have
(26:27):
better matches because of their physical superiority. That doesn't mean
they're better on the mic necessarily, of course, though we've
seen women that are much better on the mic. May
J Lee's I mean I love her on the mic.
Ria Ripley has improved greatly, Ni Jackson, her credit has improved.
Becky Lynch I think has found her voice again. You know,
go down the line but when it comes to n
(26:49):
ring and when it comes to just generally kind of
like who is going to lead the company? You know,
no one would say this out loud today because for
some reason it's frowned upon. But the men, I think,
will always, for more often than not, be in that position.
And it's just the way it is. It's just how
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it is. If you put all the women on the
show in the same position that you put to men,
and you reverse the roles, I think the ratings would decrease.
I do, because men's is just its Men's wrestling is
just more interesting. Now, you're not supposed to say that
out loud, but it has been and for aj Lee
(27:31):
even now to say that, oh well, women should be No,
you are a side. You're kind of a byproduct of,
or a kind of a background piece to a high
rated segment, you know, back in twenty fifteen. Right, So
(27:53):
that is what I would ask, is like, Okay, no,
you don't deserve that. You're not causing the ratings. You're
just privileged enough to be a part of the higher
rated segments, you know. So also now that if I
haven't already pissed off enough people here, which is fine,
It's not my goal to piss people off. It's just
(28:14):
I've got no got no reason to just hold anything
back here. And I think some of you are going
to relate and be like, yeah, that's probably true, and
others are gonna think it's some kind of chauvinistic statement.
It doesn't matter to me. But my point I was
going to make is some people are assuming that it's
the return of Ronda Rowsey in that teaser that WB
(28:38):
put out. I really hope that it's not Ronda Rowsey.
I have been very much an anti Rousy proponent for
a long time now. She had a nice brief kind
of introduction and first part of her career, and then
it was just a dumpster fire after that. And she
(29:00):
he's just a mess of a human being. I mean,
she's a mess. I don't need her immaturity. She still
acts like a fourteen year old girl at times. She's
disrespected the business a lot. Not that that matters anymore
to even the executives at TKO. So I hope it's
(29:22):
not Ronda Rousey. We don't need her. The women certainly
don't need her. They've moved on and done just fine
without Ronda Rousey. So I'm just very very very much
hoping it's not Ronda. I know some of you love Ronda,
and she has certainly named brand, value and notoriety and
(29:44):
all the rest of it. So maybe they're overlooking that
because they feel shul bringing eyeballs. But I just don't.
I don't like her as a person, I don't like
her as a as a wrestler. I'm very very much
against bringing Ronda back, but it's of course not my decision.
So all right, let's continue, boy, if you guys are
(30:07):
still listening, So Penta versus Solo Soca last time is
now tournament quarterfinal. The match didn't last too long before,
of course, the injury to Penta with him doing a
hurricanana or off of the barricade onto the floor and
he landed awkwardly. I'm not sure I would imagine it's
(30:28):
his shoulder. We'll have to get a much more complete analysis,
medical analysis. I'm sure we'll give us an update. Penta.
It was a real injury. This was not staged. If
you saw it, you knew Penta shuffer suffer some kind
of serious shoulder or arm injury. It looked like maybe
a collarbone break. Maybe you shoulder separation maybe a I mean,
(30:51):
I'm not I'm just speculating, but yeah, they had to
stop the match. Solo was not happy, everybody was not happy,
and it's just one of those freak things. And it's always,
you know, when you look at the injuries, it's usually,
I shouldn't say always. Usually it's not the fantastical, big
(31:12):
spots that injuries occur. It's the common stuff, common stuff
that person's done a million times. It's the stuff that
they just are so used to doing that it's just
the one time that they land wrong and they twist wrong,
and there's a lot of not a lot of room
for error and a lot of the maneuvers that are done.
So best of luck to Penta in his recovery. I
(31:36):
know that. You know he was very frustrated, you could tell.
So all right. We then have Ivy Nile approach Dupree
and Nile walked away after she told her that her title,
that title is hers. Roxane Perez and Rock cal Rodriguez
(31:56):
approached Maxine and Perez was talking smack when Pierce returned
and asked if there was a problem, and Pierce said
Dupree should call Natalia now. Which he started to do.
So okay, so you kind of know this is gonna
be a multi woman matchup, I would imagine for the
IC title. All right, Logan Paul and Drew McIntyre versus
Jimmy and Jay Uso in a war Games advantage match.
(32:20):
So the match went seventeen minutes with Logan, Paul and
Drew mcatyre winning in a very good match. I mean, yeah,
four absolute professionals in here. Logan Paul, who has no
business being as good as he is. You have Drew McIntyre,
who's I think at his peak right now, Jimmy and
Jay Uso, who are much better as a team than
they are solo. I think, no pun intended. So the
(32:44):
fans chanted OTC. They got their wish. As Roman Reigns
comes out, he hit breaker and read with Superman punches,
and then he clotheslined with Logan over the top. Brock
Lessner's music hits and he flipped and fell. As I
said earlier in the beginning of the show, just just hilarious.
(33:06):
I mean, I know that at one point two we
had Lesner's pants rip, which was on SmackDown how long
ago now, But this was good. I mean Lesner just
made the segment here, but he does, you know. He
pretends to walk out and come with this team, but
(33:27):
his team ends up going in front of him, and
brock Lesner backs off and they brawled with the the
opposing team to end the show. So brock Lessler doesn't
really get physically involved here, but he does get physically
involved with himself. That sounds awful, but you know what
I mean. So that's raw, a solid raw, I'd say,
(33:49):
a solid go home sell you a type of show
to get us ready for war games. It was one
that I think is it sets us up nicely for
Saturday and Friday. Of course they have one more shot
at selling us the pl E. Now, I hope that
(34:10):
you guys are subscribed right on. ESPN isn't on Wait
a minute, so I'm gotta google this. Where can I
watch Survivors series? Because googleing now, so let's see here
we can watch Survivor series. Yeah, it's only okay ESPN. Okay,
(34:30):
I thought for some reason I heard that they can
do it on Peacock. Still that's not true. All right,
So hopefully you guys got the ESPN app. I'm gonna
have to find a I do not actually have it.
I'm gonna have to find some kind of other stream
if you know what I mean. There's other streams that
out there that are free. I help you get my drift.
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X follow us on X at Wrestling Underscore Audio. I'll
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be a massive event, of course, and I'll back on
(35:14):
Actually maybe I'll be back sooner than you think, and
the next day or two I'll be giving you guys
my preview predictions for the show in addition to the mailbag,
so get us your questions, your predictions earlier than you
normally would a mailbag at ww podcast dot com. Thank
you everybody, hope you enjoyed the show. We'll talk soon.
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