The YoJoeShow™ Podcast – Episode 6 - The YoJoeShow™ Podcast

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Hey. Hey. Hey, everyone, and welcome to the
Yojo Show podcast. Hey, Joe.
Hey. How are you doing, yo?
I'm awake and alive.
You with me?
Heart's beating. Lungs are working. Now for those
two things, the rest just wouldn't matter.
Exactly. Exactly. I think, we definitely have a
lot of very interesting topics to discuss.

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Let's start off with the Joe Rogan
episode
of Douglas Murray and Dave Smith because that's
been breaking the Internet. And and, fortunately, it
didn't go exactly as as we were hoping.
Yeah. I don't even think we have to
take the flip of it. It's been so
widely
distributed and rehashed, and everyone's giving their 2¢
and their point of view. Maybe you wanna
just fill in for those that might have

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just somehow missed it.
Yeah. So for anybody
not familiar, Douglas Murray is one of the
OG war reporters, like, real war reporters who
goes to every single war zone in the
world, goes to the battle lines,
whether it's Ukraine or Afghanistan
or Iraq or Gaza,

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everywhere,
Myanmar, Sudan. Like, he is a true journalist
in the real definition of the word, in
the traditional def definition of the world word.
And he has a very good understanding
of
the world as it works and the different
forces. Specifically,
he understands how unique western civilization is and

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how many forces there are trying to defeat
it. So Dave Smith, for anybody unfamiliar,
is originally a comedian turned talk show podcast
host who is
undoubtedly brilliant as well. And he is libertarian
too, a little less a very different libertarian
than we are, let's just say. And he
is definitely not a supporter of Israel. He
believes that what's happening there is genocide, etcetera.

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The ironic part is Douglas Murray is one
of
the best
people
to respond to his criticisms and actually
have the background and the knowledge to give
the correct context and respond to most of
his questions. I think Dana Smith's point
is it's beautiful, but very unrealistic.
It reminds me of I think, I may

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have mentioned this in one of the earlier
podcasts, but Churchill mentioned about the
the first prime minister of India
who fought against the British,
Mahatma Gandhi.
Well, he wasn't exactly the first prime minister
the first prime minister of India, but Mahatma
Gandhi was one of the people who fought
most diligently for the freedom of India. And

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what Churchill said about him is Mahatma Gandhi
was successful because he fought, protested
peacefully,
but he was successful because he was doing
so against the British Empire.
If he had tried to do the same
thing against the Soviet Union,
he would have been long sent to Gulag
and disappeared off. Right? So
I think Dave Smith,
in theory,

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his points are very
moral and beautiful.
In practice, in reality, if you understand the
way the real world acts, it is just
very irrelevant.
Douglas knows this. Douglas has the capacity and
the capabilities to give a really great
explanation of it. But, unfortunately,
when on the number one podcast in the
world, on Joe Rogan, when he had the

(03:12):
best opportunity for that, he really failed
because he went into a whole prudentialism
type of argument. I'm the historian. I'm the
writer. I'm the the researcher,
and it's just not a very good argument
to to make. It's an argument that Douglas
himself has criticized in the past when others
have used, and it's not one that he
typically uses. And he has the capability of
responding, but for some reason, he came out

(03:33):
swinging right on the Joe Rogan podcast. He
came out attacking Joe Rogan, which
if somebody's hosting you on a podcast, it's
just not a friendly it's not a nice
thing to do. His criticism was correct that
Joe has host way more people that hate
Israel over the past year than people who
support Israel.
But
the fact that he just came out swinging
and he just went on attack for the
first forty minutes, and he kept on bringing

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up the whole credentialism argument, which is like,
why don't you respond to David Smith's points?
And he knows the good responses.
Right? He could do it, But for some
reason, he just caught he was just caught
in he just got derailed. I don't know
exactly what caused it. And, he kept on
repeating the whole credentialism. I don't like it.
The comedians give their opinions. Oh, it's fine
that you give your opinion, but you should
really listen to the pros. And there is

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some legitimacy,
a little bit of legitimacy in that argument.
Right? When we think that everybody has a
right to of speech. Right? Both of us
are not real specialists in anything per se.
Right? And yet we sit here and we
give our opinions about things. Right?
But you always have to take more seriously
people who did do the work, specifically journalists
who actually went there, who actually saw it

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within their own eyes, who actually experienced things
with their own hands. Whereas David Smith sits
in he's never been to The Middle East.
He sits in his studio, and he criticizes.
Right? And so Douglas's point is it's easy
to criticize when you're sitting in a studio,
go to a war zone, and experience and
feel what
war is really and how shitty it is
for everybody involved just to understand a little
bit what the soldiers had to put up

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with, the situation that's going on, how Hamas
uses people as human shields, how many
Islamists
prefer
that people die
because they know Israel will get criticized for
that. So they'll use deliberately
deliberately use their own people as human shields,
deliberately store things, you know, mosques, churches, hospitals,

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etcetera,
because they want the pictures. They want so
they want the sympathy of the world. So
they're really using
our sense of morality the West's sense of
morality against ourselves. Right? And, again,
Douglass is so capable. I just I wish
to see almost like a reincarnation of this
interview where Douglass stays on point and really

(05:38):
responds to his arguments as opposed to just
criticizing the man. Unfortunately, Douglas fail failed here.
God's side did a very good kind of
summary of that. He criticized Douglas, and he
was criticized for criticizing Douglas, which is a
stupid thing. Right? We all love Douglas, but
when somebody make the mistake, you gotta admit
it. Right? Trigonometry also did a really great
kind
of summary of what went on and gave

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a few good answers. And Constantine Kisson is
very has a very
clear view of the goods of the western
societies versus other societies, which, for some reason,
the media and the elite tend to obfuscate.
Yeah. I'll give you some of my takeaways.
I agree with everything you're saying. On the
one hand,
yes. It it certainly adds credibility and value

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when someone could say, I've been there. I've
seen it. I've touched it. I've looked at
it. Totally makes a difference. For example, when
people are talking about
The US Mexico border, I lived on The
US Mexico border for eleven years. When I
moved back to Florida, a lot of the
things being reported in the media were just
completely wrong by the supposed professional journalists

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who were reporting on it, either by design
because they didn't want to say discuss the
truth or report the truth or because they
simply didn't know. So there is a value,
and no one's saying that's not true. But
there's a flip side of that. Again, as
you mentioned,
everyone is entitled to have open discourse and
an opinion on a topic.
You don't have to go and have a
PhD in something to become an expert and

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or at least to be able to qualify,
be qualified to discuss it. A heart surgeon
and a cardiologist,
neither or of them need to have a
heart attack in order to be able to
do surgery or to put in a stent
or to diagnose the patient.
They've never probably better if they never did.
And there are OBGYNs
who are men,

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and they've never had a baby and never
will. And they're delivering babies, yet they're still
very competent. So you really have a deep
understanding. We've read every book on the subject.
That's why we're such big fans of Douglas
because he really is so smart and so
educated. But
yeah. But the flip side of that is
that doesn't entitle someone
to go and prevent other people from giving
their opinion, which you could certainly disagree with,

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and you can give all the reasons why
they may be wrong. And I can give
you one example.
During the most recent COVID pandemic,
there were a lot of people trying to
voice things that they were seeing
and they were discounted because they said you
have to listen to the doctors, you have
to listen to the scientists. In the end,
much of what the experts were saying has

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now been found to be incorrect.
And some of the things being brought up
and some of the potential things that might
have saved lives were not being considered because
it wasn't coming from someone that was credentialed.
So again, I think we just have to
take everything in totality and understand and listen.
And, certainly,
there are times where someone that isn't credentialed
might

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convince someone that has vast educational experience or
experience in a particular area of knowledge to
maybe change their mind. So that whole thing
is was annoying. And, again, he himself had
been criticized in the past
for the same exact thing, saying that he
didn't have the experience or hadn't been present
and so forth. It's for him to turn
around now and he'd be holier than that

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one's in that. No one else can have
an opinion on this and no one else
can say it. So that
certainly take issue with. Now there's another side
to what he was saying,
and it was a caution,
really almost a censorship caution, although it's a
there's a thin line between censorship and
yelling a fire in a crowded movie theater.
Right? We've discussed this in part in the

(09:13):
past. You brought up on another episode of
ours that sometimes when you have
different media organizations trying to appear to be
unbiased, they'll present two sides of an argument.
But one of the individuals that's presenting one
of the sides may be so far off
the beaten
path, extreme right, extreme left, whatever it is,
but they're certainly not grounded in the argument.

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They're really an extreme opinion, and they're being
presented as a
fair alternate argument.
And I think that's the one thing that
was brought up as well. He was saying,
if there's this argument that Churchill really
wasn't really as great a guy as was
he was made out to be,
then, oh my god. You know what? All
hell would break loose because if not for

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Churchill, what would we have? Germany might have
advanced, and we'd all be speaking in German
now. Nothing wrong with learning German, but by
choice rather than by force.
And ultimately,
I get his point,
but I don't think we can stifle
commentary or opinion. And I think on platforms
like the Joe Rogan experience, ultimately,

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he he's the moderator.
He allows people to basically say what they
need to say. And if there's something he
doesn't think is legit, he's going to call
it out. He's certainly not shy. And that's
the reason that I think that's the other
point in this whole debate that is important.
I'm certainly not for censorship.
I think if someone's going to go and
give some crazy opinion
or the opinion they're giving could somehow maybe

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be misinterpreted to mean something totally different, anyone
else on the show could call that out
and balance out what the meaning of it
is. Sometimes in our words, when we're discussing
something,
it could be misconstrued. And, certainly, I get
that point, but we shouldn't stifle someone's
ability to voice their opinion or their point.
Yeah. But on many topics, Joe doesn't necessarily

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have the knowledge to fight back correctly,
or he just wants to let the speaker
speak and give their opinion. That's completely legitimate
to thing to do with an interviewer. An
interesting thing to just finish the story is
I saw the next episode
of the Joe Rogan podcast had somebody, and
I just saw the picture, and I saw
it with somebody with a huge star of
David made out of diamonds. And I was

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like, oh, maybe he took Douglas's criticism to
heart, and he brought on somebody to defend
Israel. So I start listening to that podcast,
and it didn't complete the whole thing. I
listened to most of it, though. And it
turns out to be a Jewish comedian who
was proudly Jewish, but they go on and
they talk about comedy for the first hour
and a half, and it's at least to
me, it wasn't that interesting. And then at
one point, the guest brings out some pieces

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of paper and some graphs
and because he wants to get to Israel
and wants to discuss it. And Joe Rogan
starts making fun of him, and they're like,
oh, wow. You came so prepared. Oh, man.
And I understand he's a comedian, and Joe
was wanting to play with him like a
comedian. But he was, like, really determined. I
wanna do my part. I wanna
give some explanations, give some background about this

(12:05):
about this this war that's going on. And
Joe was like, oh, obviously, you can talk
about whatever you want, but then he made
fun of him every time he tried to
bring it up, and they never really got
into the discussion about Israel. I was like,
I was hopeful seeing that he brought on
a proud Jew
to the next episode, but then he didn't
really let him talk about it. And, again,
he told him you can talk about whatever
you want, but then he steered the conversation

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away, and he made fun every time he
brought it. He tried to bring it up.
Now I understand that's a comedian. He's not
somebody coming to argue for Israel,
but he heard some arguments, maybe in the
previous episodes, maybe in others. He wanted to
give some additional context, and at least the
feeling I got from watching it was that
Joe didn't really give him that space. He
told him he could, but then he also
made fun of him and moved the conversation
out to more funny subject. And, yes, I

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tend to choose the Joe Rogan podcast that
are interesting to me about science, technology,
geopolitics, and stuff like that. Others choose episodes
about comedians because they wanna laugh. Right? So
maybe it was something like that, but it
just felt like, another missed opportunity at this
time not on Douglas' side, but this time
on Joe's side.
And, again, none of us are perfect, and
the good thing is all podcasters have the

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opportunity to move the needle one direction or
another to try to get to the proper
balance.
And you can't take one episode or one
event and to and say that's the world's
coming to an end. You have to look
at the overall picture. I don't think that
Joe Rogan's trying to push
a specific narrative. Clearly, he's he has an
interest in putting people on there that are

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interesting.
And as you pointed out, he's not necessarily
an expert on any of these topics that
are being discussed. He's not a dumb guy.
He's very successful. He knows what's going on.
He knows what's going on. The
bottom line is we can't pigeonhole an argument
or a discussion to only the people who
are academics or that are subject matter experts.
Bottom line is I think the most important

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discussions include the discussions that the person on
the street can have with their neighbor and
be able to advance their understanding of it.
So I think that's the value. I think
ultimately the world won't come to an end.
And, yes, there'll be an opportunity for people
to kind of
continue the discussion and broaden it and so
forth. I also don't think that we need
to completely attack someone that maybe on one

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particular day, it really maybe was just so
focused on trying to make a point
that many people certainly took issue with it.
And and I think that he derailed much
of what he could have or should have
been talking about. But, again, that's how it
played out, and that's all fine. I don't
think it's gonna change anything in the long
in the long run, and I think everyone
will have an opportunity to go back and

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keep discussing and keep advancing
whatever narratives everybody wants to particularly discuss. We
one of the other things you and I
were talking about have to do with
relating to this solo idea of experts
talking on a topic and information being given
out that might cause people to completely misunderstand
or that it's gonna create a bias. There

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was that Guardian article.
Yes. Hoo. Wow. Yeah. That really slapped me
across the face. Now it's not surprising Guardian
has been very vocal in their hatred towards
Israel, or at least you can try and
say their hatred toward the way Israel is
acting in this war, maybe, but not really.
It really is just hatred hatred toward Israel
in my personal opinion. This article is a

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very good example of it. They had a,
I think, a Palestinian writer, definitely an Arab
writer along with somebody else, read an article
trying to find the forgotten history of the
Palestinian people. Now for
people unfamiliar, the concept of Palestinian people so
after the Jews lived in the land and
they had the first temple and the second
temple, after the Romans destroyed the second temple,

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there were still many Jews living in the
land until the Bar Kokhba revolt. And during
that revolt, the Romans squashed the Jews trying
to fight for their autonomy again, and that's
when they really dispersed most of the Jews
that lived in the land of Israel.
The I think it was emperor Adriana or
something in order to punish the Jews and
to distance them from their homeland. They he
decided to change the name of the land

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from Judah and Israel, which were the two
parts were named, to,
Palestine.
And the reason he chose that name was
because in the bible,
Israel's ancient enemies are the Philistine people. The
Philistine people have nothing to do even though
they lived around where Gaza is now in
Ashkelon and Isdal, which is currently in Israel.
So even though they lived around that same
area of Gaza, no relationship to the Palestinians

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we now consider Palestinians. They were seagoing people,
seafaring people who came and were pretty strong
and settled there, likely Greek. And there were
historical enemies of the Jewish people, lots of
buy lots of biblical
war between the Jews and the Philistines,
specifically noting Samsung, the mighty Samsung, etcetera. So
the Romans, in order to piss the Jews

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off, renamed the land Palestine.
Then it was part of the Byzantine Empire,
which converted to Christianity
until the
the Islam kind of spread out of Arabia.
That was almost seven hundred years later. Right?
Seven hundred years more or less after the
destruction of the second temple,
Mohammed came around, and he started this religion

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of conquest, and they started fighting all of
they conquered first all of Arabia
and then most of the Levant and then
all of Northern Africa.
And,
even though most of the area was Byzantine,
which was Christian, they for forcefully converted them
to Islam. The Jews, obviously,
in Israel or whoever they could tried to
forcefully convert them as well. Again, most of

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the Jews had left, but there were small
Jewish communities.
And, obviously, in Iran, the Zoroastrians
were ruling, and they were completely defeated by
Islam.
So Islam is the original
conqueror and and illegal holder of the land,
if you like to say that. Now, again,
there are always people before other people, but
the concept that any of these Arabs who

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came out of Arabia
Thousands Of hundreds of years and later thousands
of years after Judaism and the claim that
they are the original Palestinians and they are
the original people to the land is just
ludicrous.
So this Guardian article really had
to suck at straws to try and find
proof
that Palestine is Palestinian because the modern concept

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of what we consider nowadays
Palestinian people, that was created by the KGB
in order to create distrust and and fight
and keep The US occupied in The Middle
East. This article,
the picture we have right now,
this is from an Umayyad
Desert temple, but this is not the original
image The Guardian article had because the original
image The Guardian,

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article had proving
that
Palestine is historically
Muslim Palestinian
is a picture of a synagogue,
surprise, an ancient synagogue
from the second temple period before Islam existed,
before Mohammed was born, So before Islam was
ever invented, before the Arabs ever left Arabia.
So that's the original picture. Do you have

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that one as well? I'll pull it up
in a second. And for anyone who is
just listening to the podcast
on an audio platform that isn't seeing the
image that's up, this is from The Guardian.
The
article is entitled Forgotten Searching for Palestine's Hidden
Places and Lost Memorials
Review. Existence

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is Resistance.
And again, the image that's on basically,
the reason this started a discussion between
between both of us was that the original
image
was
incorrect.
And
I will go and switch the images so
we can actually show the one that was
there. Somewhere, obviously, they were notified that what

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they had posted
was not
matching with what they were trying to argue.
In fact, it didn't help their argument very
much. I'm gonna take this one. Yeah. Actually,
in the article, they brought another location as
well, Gibeon,
which they mentioned as historically Palestinian place.
It was a Canaanite place. I think it's
the same Gibeon from this story of Joshua,

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where Joshua in the bible said the sun
should stop and should halt in Gibeon to
win a war.
But where it is where we definitely have
archaeological and historical evidence for it is king
Saul, which was the predecessor who came before
king David and tried to kill him. King
Saul, which was a Jewish king,
conquered Gibeon,

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and he turned it into his capital or
he had a palace there. And we've actually
found a lot of archaeological
history of his palace and of other Jewish
history in Gibeon, including
ancient wine vessels that have ancient Hebrew on
it and stuff like that. So, basically, every
single one of their arguments that they're using
trying to prove that Palestine is some Islamic

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Palestinian
land
is Jewish archaeology. And to be honest, growing
up in Israel, I got to see this
a lot. My mother used to like to
take us occasionally to prophets' burial sites. And
every time we used to go to biblical
prophets' burial sites, there would be a mosque
there. And we would be like, why is
there always a mosque? These are like Jewish
prophets.
Right?
So it turns out that Islam

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in order for Mohammed to get legitimacy,
he had to somebody coming around just inventing
a religion. Everybody, like, who are you, and
why are you saying these things? Right? So
he claimed that he was the last prophet,
a continuation
of the Jewish prophets and then the Christian
prophets. So that's why Islam believes that all
of the biblical prophets are true prophets. Right?
So they believe in Moses, technically. They believe

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in Jesus, technically, but all of their focus
is on the final prophet, which is Mohammed
according to them.
But
they also claim that the ancient Jews of
the bible's time have basically went extinct because
they all converted to Islam. So
many Muslims will tell you that Banu Israel,
which is B'nai Israel, the children of Israel,

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which is the Jewish people's historical
biblical name, that they went extre extinct.
And the crazy conspiracy theory that many Muslims
believe in is that the current Jews have
nothing to do with the historical biblical Jews,
nothing at all. There are European Jews who
came from the Kuzari Empire. The Kuzari was
a very interesting case scenario of an empire
between the Byzantine, which was very Christian, and

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the Muslim empire who wouldn't get along. And
since the Jews religiously were halfway in between
and politically at that time, they're halfway in
between, there was an empire of Khazar, and
there's an ancient book called the Khazar rebook,
where basically
the king at the time said, okay. They
were idol worshipers, and he decided to believe
in monotheism. So he said, okay. Let's choose

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which of the three religions we should follow.
He brought a priest, and he brought a
rabbi, and he bought a an imam. And
then he had them debating, and he had
thousands of people, all the
lots of the population listened in. And, basically,
at the end, the king was convinced that
Judaism is true, so he ended up converting
to to Judaism.
And there was, for a few hundred years,
a Jewish empire in middle of what is

(22:43):
now like Georgia, Kazakhstan,
that type of area. Very interesting story.
They were defeated by the Mongols eventually and,
I think, by the Russian empire as well
as Russia start to expand and become a
country. And, yeah, so they ended up disappearing.
So what many Muslims nowadays believe is that
current Jews have no relation to historical Jews
even though DNA evidence shows the exact contrary.

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But they will tell you that for all
modern day Jews really come from this Khuzari
converts, so therefore, they're not real Jews. They're
not the true descendants of Israel,
and therefore, they're European colonizers who are coming
to colonize the Middle East as opposed to
Jews who are coming back to their to
their promised land. So it's a little bit
of a crazy conspiracy theory, but it is
extremely common in Islam because admitting that the

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Jews survived and didn't all convert to Islam
doesn't look very good either. And then admitting
that the true Jews came back to the
Middle East and then rebuilt their country,
and it's successful, and it's a democracy, and
it's thriving, and everybody has rights, and people
are happy. And even the Arabs, they're, like,
living there many times versus all of the
other Arab countries around, which are if they
are not oil rich, Emirates

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are usually in a constant state of civil
war, and women and minorities never have any
rights. It just doesn't look very good
that seven Arab countries tried to defeat the
Jews when they were really weak and failed,
and then they tried again six countries and
then they tried again. Right? Like, seven different
wars and then, okay, for additional army, it
can't defeat Israel. Maybe terrorism could and terrorism

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they've been trying terrorism for many years, and
that has failed. So the fact that Jews
are successful in their ancient homeland in the
Middle East kind of proves the biblical point
if people want to believe that. But at
least to many Muslims to which the concept
of Dar Al Islam and Dar Al Harb,
to translate the House of Islam and the
House of Suurs. All lands are divided into
two categories.

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Either it's land that is currently controlled by
Muslims or has been controlled by Muslims in
the past and therefore will
forever remain Muslim land. And then the rest
of the world, which isn't Muslim land, is
Dar Al Khab, the land of the sword,
is basically a war zone. So you get
offended that they blow up a bus in
Madrid,
but Madrid is a war zone. And, specifically,
Spain used to be part of, Dar Al

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Islam during the first expansion of Islam. Muslims
are Islamist are even more determined to claim
that that is part of their homeland. So,
yeah, this is the original picture that was
in the article.
Interesting to note, existence is resistance.
It may sound peaceful, but resistance, when it
comes to the Middle East, tends to never
be peaceful. But, yeah, that's the picture of
the ancient synagogue from the second temple period.

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Which is a little ironic because it goes
counter to the argument that they were trying
to make in the article. And then the
other thing is, despite what anyone's opinion of
the historical truths are,
it basically
is an interesting
corollary to what we were discussing before.
And that's when you have experts

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who are obviously choosing the photographs they're going
to include
and they botch that up so miserably that
it makes the counterargument
of who was there first somewhat a little
more plausible.
You have to then question this whole thing
about trusting the science and trusting the experts.
I would always say, listen to the experts,
but trust nothing without checking and double checking

(25:58):
and asking for a second or third opinion.
And even in journalism,
we can count this as a mistake. We're
not
saying it absolutely had to be an intentional
error in all parts because it certainly didn't
help them. They were trying to find a
photograph that they could include, and they just
didn't include the correct one. But, supposedly, it
wasn't just like a photograph from the Internet.
Supposedly, they had a delegation, and they went

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out there, and they took these photos. It
turns out that this photo was actually taken
by an Israeli who was there. So this
wasn't from their delegation. But, supposedly, they did
have a delegation to go and investigate the
historical sites. So this was supposed to be
real journalism, but when it comes from The
Guardian, you can never take it seriously.
But it's just interesting how
they had one photograph, and then, suddenly, the

(26:39):
photograph changed
with no real One other location that they
described in the article has endless amounts of
Jewish archaeology
and not much historical archaeology Muslim archaeology.
Definitely not Palestinian archaeology because there never was
a Palestinian state. There were Arabs who lived
in the Middle East, and they were typically
called Arabs. Yeah. I think our next article,
our next subject is even more dismaying because

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during
World War one, Jews were prosecuted a decent
amount. Obviously, not like World War two. But
at that time, there was a
Jewish study group that moved. They tried to
get out of the war zone, and they
ended up going to China. And they ended
up living in China in in Shanghai, and
there was a successful
yeshiva, which is like a Talmudic study
group and,

(27:22):
like,
ordinates rabbinical ordination school, etcetera. And they survived
there through World War two. Obviously, being under
the Japanese was not very nice at all,
and the if anybody heard the
the
stories of the rape of of Nanking and
the thing that went on there, it was
very brutal to everybody involved, but at least
they were out of the reach of the
Nazis. Supposedly, the Nazis did a request these

(27:45):
Jews to be to being to be brought
back and sent to the gas chambers, and
the Japanese were like, just leave them alone.
So, thankfully, those Jews were able to survive.
So, historically,
the Far East had much less antisemitism
than Europe, right, or
Northern Africa, etcetera, Arabia.
But
we just found a piece of Chinese

(28:07):
Nazi propaganda. And I never believed that would
be saying these words because how does that
even make sense? So this is a Chinese
video describing
world war two.
And, yeah, it is basically just pure up
Nazi propaganda.
The video we're showing is from a YouTube
channel called the easy way. They he also
has his name is Tharon. He's brilliant. He's

(28:28):
a philosopher. So he looks at things very
objectively and very zoomed out. So he's very
interesting to watch. He discusses a lot of
very interesting things. He understands Arabic. He does
some interesting content on that subject. Most of
the content he does is on his Hebrew
channels. Easy Way is his English channel. But
this video
about Nazi propaganda
Chinese edition
is freaking bonkers. He does a great job

(28:50):
taking it apart and trying to understand where
you're even coming from and explaining what's going
on.
The most ironic part is the vast majority
of clips. So
do you wanna summarize it, Joe? Sure. If
so, again, for those not on,
a platform that's that shows the video,
what is playing
is think of a Nazi Germany

(29:12):
era. If you wouldn't know and weren't reading
the Chinese or that's been translated on the
screen, it basically is explaining
from the perspective of the Chinese authors of
the text in the movie,
ultimately, that the Jews were basically
not
cooperating, not working with the Germans, were not

(29:33):
helpful, and they portray the Jews as as
it says right in the text I'm reading
now, hateful Jews.
And
it's it looks like something out of a
KKK rally, frankly. I mean, that or an
educational video if you're
going to join a
current neo Nazi organization, it would seem like
they would be playing this. It is rather

(29:56):
shocking that
China or at least someone or a faction
within China is openly promoting
the
idea of antisemitism
and encouraging it. It's just it's
shocking to even see this in this day.
Yeah. And just to summarize the weird theory
that they have, basically, the story is that
there were Jews in Germany, and Jews tend
to be smart and educated.

(30:16):
And, therefore,
they were tended to be a little bit
more successful.
When World War one came out, they
started fighting kind of opposite sides, and they
were funding both sides. There's a little truth
to that in terms of, like, the Rothschild
bank loaning to both sides. But they tried
to make this out that all the Jews
became filthy rich while all the Germans

(30:37):
were poor and couldn't afford any food. But
the Jews were so rich, and they wouldn't
even listen, and they wouldn't even care, and
they just had all the money and all
the food, and the Germans were suffering. The
ironic thing is that the clips
that they use in this Chinese propaganda film
are mostly from Western
Nazi movies.
And most of the videos where they put
showing how the German people were suffering

(30:59):
by the evil Jews are actually videos of
Jews of Germans tour torturing the Jews. So
it really just flip things over reminiscent of
the previous article we were mentioning. Right? So
they take videos of Jews suffering,
of Jews being beaten up, Jews being tortured,
Jews going hungry, and then claim that somehow
this was the German people. And now anybody
who's familiar with the history, the reparations after

(31:20):
World War one were extremely harsh, and hyperinflation
went rampant in Germany,
and people couldn't afford any food. Obviously, the
ones who suffer most typically are the minorities,
including the Jews, especially when there's so much
antisemitism, and they were being robbed, and tortured,
and stuff like that. But, yeah, just the
concept that and then they claim that because
of that kind of explains all the Nazis'
actions, and therefore, the Nazis, it's legitimate because

(31:43):
the Jews were so evil,
and we're so rich, and we're just torturing
everybody else. Yeah. It's obviously ridiculous,
but
I'm just surprised. Nothing comes out of China
without the Chinese CCP approving. Every organization, every
company there has CCP representatives.
So this is the CCP
pushing Nazi propaganda, and that is new to

(32:04):
me. We have seen this red green alliance
where
Islamist, Islamist typically associated with color green. It's
considered a holy color a little bit. And
then communism, which is associated with red, they
are blind
at fighting western civilization
and antisemitism in Israel, etcetera.
It's a little ironic because the green will

(32:24):
chew up and spit out the reds if
they just get the chance. So it's really
just a union of convenience,
but the,
Islamist
do want to control the conquer the world
and convert everybody to Muslim, and that includes
the Chinese. It includes the communists who are
worse than, theoretically, according to Islam, worse than
Jews or or Christians because they're atheist and

(32:46):
which means that they don't believe in God
at all. Yeah. This is not a true
friendship between the green and the reds, but
it is a partnership of convenience, and they
have been going on this partnership for a
very long time. Like you said, since the
seventies when the communist when the KGB invented
the concept of Palestine, and they took Yasser
Arafat out of out of Egypt
and convinced him to become this Palestinian leader.

(33:08):
And it's continuing till today even though they
really don't like each other.
Yeah. It's again, other
I guess one of the things to consider
that would maybe make this not seem that
shocking that there's at least some people within
China that are trying to push this
anti Jewish
slash, by extension, anti Israel narrative.

(33:30):
If you think about all the funding that's
going on between China and
the Ivy League colleges in The United States.
You start wondering within why there's so many
protests,
really anti Israel protests that are going on.
The two things would seem to be connected.
Well, Qatar funds them as well, and Qatar
is a a part of the Muslim brotherhood,
which is very radical

(33:50):
Islamist. Hamas is part of the Muslim brotherhood.
Al Qaeda is part of the Muslim brotherhood.
And the emir of Qatar is proud member
of the Muslim brotherhood, and
he basically said he's he'll devote all of
the resources
of the country
to forward the Muslim Brotherhood narrative, and that's
why he created Al Jazeera, which has been
extremely successful at pushing the Muslim

(34:10):
Brotherhood propaganda. So
is that fair?
Clearly,
it's concerning, ultimately,
to disparage
anyone who's Jewish by having the nerve to
go and put together
a movie or, in some twisted documentary
that seems to justify the Holocaust is just,
again, I can't believe this is 2025

(34:33):
and that we're even seeing this other than
in some backroom of some cult like group,
but not coming out of China. But that
being said, I think the point that's made
China
and other countries have an interest sometimes in
at least stirring the pot
and wanting to
provide

(34:54):
an extreme view, if nothing else, to just
enrage people because it could clearly get them
upset.
And they want to throw this out there
and see what happens. It's almost like they're
baiting a dogfight,
trying to see what to get out of
it. And then there's other groups that are
openly, even here in The United States, are
openly
calling for the downfall of The United States,
not just Israel, but The United States as

(35:15):
well.
That's crazy. And while you get that pulled
up, you mentioned earlier how China is sponsoring
in US colleges and stuff. There was a
recent article
explaining
that
the CCP
has basically funding and arming the Houthi rebels
in Iran so sorry, in Yemen. Obviously, aside
from Iran giving them intelligence and sending them
most of the weapons, a lot of their

(35:36):
drone parts and rocket parts are coming from
China, and they're using that to attack Israel
as well. But, supposedly, Israel and China are
friends. Right? So friends like that who needs
enemies.
Let's go ahead and watch talk about friends
like that who needs enemies. This is right
here in The US in Dearborn, Michigan. I
know this is scary. Yeah. Dearborn. This was
March 19, I think. Inshallah, they will fall.

(35:58):
And my message to the people of Azan
and the oppressed peoples across the world is
that there are people here, both young and
old, who are going to be willing to
fight and are willing to put their lives
and everything they can on the line to
bring these empires down because they must come
down. Yeah. Memory is phenomenal. They basically just
translate a lot of Arab content into English
for the world to understand and see.

(36:19):
Yeah. The American empire
must fall. We will dedicate our lives, and
we are willing to die for the American
empire to fall. These are these are refugees
who claim that they are running away from
a war zone, and they have to come
to the America because it's safe here, but
they wanna turn America into war zone. Right?
It's ironic. These are basically domestic terrorists. Yeah.

(36:39):
And it's really scary, the fact that there
are so many and how popular they are.
We've seen a lot of these university protests
that many of the protesters are not actually
university students. They tend to be just local
Islamists who live nearby and will use the
opportunity to
occupy the university to put pressure on Israel.
Thankfully,
the Trump administration is fighting that now. I

(36:59):
guess,
some would say controversially,
but they may make some mistakes. And, obviously,
you don't wanna arrest somebody
for their right to free speech. But, again,
if they're not American, do they have a
right to free speech? If they're coming and
they're promoting terrorism,
is that incitement
to violence
if they came? And at least what Marco
Rubio would say is if on their visa
application, they said, hey. One of the things

(37:20):
I wanna do in The US is
spread
the, the hatred of the West and spread
the downfall of America, then they would not
be approved to enter The United States. And,
therefore, if they're here on a green card,
they should be removed. Yeah. It's just scary
when we let enemy innovators come into our
country.
Some will say, oh, yes. But the Americans

(37:40):
really have been killing them for so long.
It's really the Americans' fault, etcetera. And for
them, I would say, where have you been
for the last a thousand five hundred years?
It is a religion of conquest whose was
successful due to their conquest. People believed in
Mohammed
because of he was so successful in his
conquest. So the
concept of conquering lands and people and forcefully

(38:02):
converting them to to Islam is the basis
of many aspects of the religion. So it's
just being aware of what's happening is very
important, especially when many people are keen to
blame the West
for what they do to try and defend
themselves from terrorists who will strap a suicide
vest and blow themselves up in order to

(38:22):
die because that gets them closer to meeting
their 72 virgins. And some would say they
actually have to die many times. So they
believe that they will commit suicide and die
and then come back again and then grow
up again and then die again for Allah.
And then and they have to do this
repeatedly, die for Allah multiple times in order
to go to heaven. It is a at
least the radical versions of the religion, which

(38:43):
are
very common,
are, unfortunately,
are just very incompatible with the West. And
we can on a personal level, I know
many Muslim friends. In the IDF, I served
with Muslims.
I served in when I was serving in
ambulance in Israel, I was in the in
in a mixed Arab and Jewish town, so
I served with many Muslims and many Arabs.

(39:04):
And on a personal level, they're wonderful people.
Very nice people. The very best hosting in
the world, they treat guests better than anybody
else. In general is, Muslim cultures. And the
food is delicious and the people are amazing
and people are friendly and very nice. But
as an ideology,
it is an ideology that is completely incompatible
with Western values. And the more

(39:25):
people we bring in from countries that have
ideologies that don't work with ours, regardless of
where those they are, even if it's Venezuela
criminals, let's say, because we know many very
good Venezuelan Americans, but Venezuelan criminals,
right, or anybody else who comes with an
ideology that is not compatible with the West
should not be allowed because
otherwise,

(39:46):
they will replace us. When they say that
they will it's exactly what they're doing. And
when we see in the European Union ships
bringing in, we were seeing this for years,
tens of thousands of refugees. And you're like,
okay, refugees should be women and children running
away from war. How come all I'm seeing
is thousands and thousands of military edge
aged men males?

(40:07):
Like, how are they refugees?
This is crazy. And they're just bringing brought
in by the millions into Europe. It's this
is scary because there is no way the
culture of Europe will not change. Elon Musk
recently mentioned what identifies a pea a nation
is its people. If you replace all of
its people, it will no longer be a
nation. Europe has been suffering with chronically low
reproduction rate. So they're not having any children.

(40:29):
And instead, they're bringing in Muslims who on
average will have seven, eight, 10, 12 children.
And within twenty, thirty years, they will beat
the majority. We've seen videos of people in
England and in Sweden trying to walk around
the street and the street is filled with
Islamists or Muslims bowing down and praying.
And the guy says, hey, you have a
mosque right over there and there's another mosque
right over there and there's another mosque over
here. Why are you blocking the road to

(40:50):
pray? And they just get up and they
say, this is our country. Like, you think
that this is your country, but this is
our country. You have zero to one children.
We have eight to 10 children. We are
going to be the majority soon, and we
will, inflict Sharia law whether you like it
or not. So unless the West wakes up
and wakes up soon, unfortunately, in many as
many parts of the West, this can't happen.

(41:10):
And like we said, Islam has been conquering
for its entire existence. They tried to conquer
Europe the first time. They came
conquered Northern Africa into Portugal,
Spain. That was during the golden age of
Islam, and half of France. People don't realize,
but half of France is currently Dar al
Islam, the house of Islam according to Muslims,
even though it was taken back by the
the Christian what's the word I'm looking for?

(41:32):
The crusades. And then during the second expansion
of Islam under the Ottoman Empire, they conquered
all the Balkans. So what nowadays is Albania
and kind of Bulgaria and that area, And
they were so successful. They were able to
get all the way to Vienna, Austria
before the Polish came to Austria and saved
the Austrians. But
Islam almost conquered the Ottoman Empire almost conquered

(41:54):
Vienna, Austria. So people don't realize this is
the third wave, and they realize that the
best way of defeating the West is using
democracy. Because if they come and they become
the majority,
then they'll be able to change laws and
change rules and implement a real law. Yeah.
Civilization must wake up before it's too late.
And, again, Douglas is one of the most
brilliant people on the subject. So is God's
side and so is many other. So are

(42:16):
many others. So, yeah, any thoughts?
Yeah. My my main thought is if you're
immigrating to a country, you shouldn't be going
there to change that country. You're leaving where
you're at because you choose to go somewhere
else.
You should be
able to
embrace
the values
that country has. And the concern always is

(42:36):
when you have large numbers of people that
are moving, just like we had through our
southern border here in The United States, millions
and millions of individuals
were coming through.
There is
gonna be a consequence.
And especially if the individuals coming
aren't
intent
on embracing
all that is and that has made America

(42:57):
be what it is. The other thing that's
concerning is when
younger individuals are being educated to hate America,
think because a bad place and that all
the things that supposedly made it a great
place were false.
And I think we have at least a
generation of people now that are starting to
believe that and that are openly thinking that

(43:17):
United States isn't as great a country as
it should be. I think that's really sad.
And it opens the door to
essentially
a really bad and dark path that can
be taken.
The other point as well is that the
things that happen
in the extremes of some of these other

(43:37):
countries, as you were mentioning,
is
problematic,
but it's made worse because countries like China
perhaps embrace that. They want The United States
to be destabilized
as I I think we would probably touch
upon this on another episode,
again, is the massive amounts of funding, as

(43:58):
you just mentioned earlier, to US colleges. Ivy
League universities are receiving massive funding
from essentially
organizations that are controlled by the Chinese Communist
Party. And with all that money coming in,
they get a say in what happens with
the curriculum and what's going on in these
universities.
And if,

(44:19):
that twisted
antisemitic
video was an example,
there may be an interest to just destabilize
The United States by using some of that
propaganda
while at the same time wanting to make
sure that they have full access to our
colleges.
And one of the one of the things
we touched upon was this post that we
saw, this social media post regarding

(44:39):
Xi
Jinping's daughter being in The United States.
So this is a little old. The article
from it is back from 2022.
I doubt it's still the case after
Huawei, the Chinese electronics company, their CEO was
arrested in Canada for violating
I think they were shipping things to Iran
or something. So I very much doubt that

(45:02):
she's still in The United States, but just
the fact that
the communist leaders themselves send their children into
our universities is surprising.
Yeah. And the crazy thing is I don't
even think that they have to request a
say
in the content very much
just by the fact that they're funding it,
just by the fact that the professors in
these universities are radical communists on average anyways.

(45:24):
They may be more radical than the CCP
themselves at times.
Yeah. This was just surprising. But I was
very much aware that Vladimir Putin's two daughters
lives in one lives in Germany, and I
think the other is in, like, Sweden or
somewhere else in the West. And, obviously, we
know that Kim Jong Un went to university
and school in Switzerland.
So it's not a new thing that world

(45:45):
leaders send their children to the most prestigious
schools in the world, which tend to be
in the West. But the fact that Xi
Jinping's only daughter was in
The United States in university is very surprising.
And, supposedly, she had Chinese bodyguards protecting her
wherever she went, and that is, like, the
Chinese military operating
on US soil.
I'm sure she had some diplomatic cover, but,

(46:06):
yeah, the whole concept is a little crazy
to think of.
Yeah. And we're referring to an article with
the business standard
dated 02/21/2022
that says Xi Jinping's daughter essentially is living
in The United States, and The US Senator
Hartzler was
basically looking at what things could be done
about it. And there's been social media posts
about this. The reality is that, again, as

(46:28):
you were saying, so it's not uncommon to
have leaders of different countries send their kids
to study abroad.
It's just that if we're in a ideological
battle with a country,
you certainly wanna limit their influence on our
educational system. That's probably the most important point.
Yeah. And it is also very ironic
that

(46:48):
they espouse
communism forcefully
to the people within China,
but then send their own children to live
in Canada or The United States or some
other western country. It's like they almost know
that it's fake and it's a lie, but
they force it on everybody else. Again, if
it was if if people had the freedom
to choose, chances they would choose communism are

(47:08):
very low. Even though the CCP isn't that
historically communist, kind of adopted many aspect of
capitalism, which is
when they join the World Trade Organization, when
we saw started to see their economy booming.
So even accepting
aspects of capitalism will help the economy economy
boom.
But, yeah, it's just very ironic and very

(47:29):
duplicitous
of them to preach but not practice what
they preach.
Yeah. And we've had times in our history
where we've had
concerns about
other countries coming and trying to change things
from within,
changing the way that Americans think about America.
There
was
the the famous, I guess, well,

(47:50):
distributed and viewed
video of former KGB
spy in 1984
who
basically laid out how
the former USSR was planning on essentially
subverting and taking over The United States bit
by bit slowly,
but from the inside out.
I believe when the Soviet Union failed to

(48:11):
defeat The United States
in military matters and technological matters, they decided
to use,
our open minded society to fight us. There
are many good videos of Uriel Alexandrovich Besmanov,
which is his KGB officer, kind of explaining
the different tactics the KGB used to influence
the population in The United States and how
effective it was, including

(48:33):
causing the end of the Vietnam War and
other things. Whether correct or not, the fact
that this was influenced
dramatically by the KGB is not a very
good thing. But here's a short clip of
Yuri describing
some very relevant things to our current discussion.
Mean by? Ideological subversion is the slow process,
which we call either ideological subversion

(48:55):
or active measures,
in the language of the KGB, or psychological
warfare. What it basically means is to change
the perception of reality
of every
American
to such an extent that despite of the
abundance of information,
no one is able to come to sensible
conclusions

(49:16):
in the interest of defending
themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
It's a great brainwashing
process which goes very slow and it's divided
in four basic stages.
The first one being demoralization.
It takes from fifteen to twenty years to
demoralize a nation. Why that many years?

(49:36):
Because this is the minimum number of years
which requires to educate one generation of students
in the country of your enemy
exposed to the ideology
of the enemy. In other words, Marxism Leninism
ideology
is being pumped into the soft pads of
at least three generations of American students without
being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values

(49:59):
of Americanism,
American patriotism.
The demoralization
process in The United States is basically completed
already
for the last twenty five years.
Actually, it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches
such areas where previously,
not even comrade and drop off and all
his experts would even dream of such a

(50:19):
tremendous success.
Most of it is done by Americans to
Americans,
thanks to lack of moral standards. As I
mentioned before,
exposure to true information does not matter anymore.
A person who was demoralized
is unable to assess true information. The facts
tell nothing to him.

(50:39):
Even if I shower him with information, with
authentic proof, with documents, with pictures,
even if I take him by force to
the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp,
he will refuse to believe it
until he he is going to receive a
kick in the in his fat bottom.
When a military boot crashes his balls, then
he will understand, but not before that. That's

(51:01):
the tragic of the situation of demoral Truly
wonderful. It's exactly what we've been seeing going
on in American universities.
The keyword he uses demoralization.
Right? When you cause people to no longer
believe in themselves, to no longer believe in
an optimistic future, to no longer be optimistic,
to be demoralized, to be depressed, to be
unexcited.

(51:21):
A lot of depression. We've seen we've seen
depression rates all across The United States skyrocket,
etcetera.
When you grow up being told that we
are evil because we are a nation of
slave owners,
and nobody points out that every nation was
a nation of slave owners. We are one
of the only nations that abolished slavery, and
that's what makes us special. It's not the
fact that we had slavery.
Every country has slavery. Every people every human

(51:44):
alive today is both descendants of slaves and
is descendants of slave owners. Every human alive
today. I think you could probably recount a
story of
the Jewish people being slave for quite a
long time.
Yeah. But it's not isolated to one group
of individuals. I think when we think in
The United States of slavery, think of one
thing, but it's very it was exceedingly widespread.

(52:05):
And I think
the part of the conversation that almost always
seems to be forgotten, this country is Great
Britain, The United Kingdom, The United States, obviously,
were did
have their own. Not always the easy thing,
but to change
the tide for the correct way to move
forward
despite the fact that other countries are still
trying very hard to maintain the status quo.

(52:27):
And
again, it's not an easy history to, to
look at and to understand, but I think
it's important that we always understand
the good, the bad, and the ugly of
all of our history to under to make
sure we can know to know where we
are today is to know where we've come
from.
And I think that's an important consideration.
But
to hear a former KGB

(52:47):
spy or agent
talking in this manner
doesn't seem surprising. Again, this has been around
for quite a while. This is originally an
interview from 1984 again, I believe.
So it's been quite some time, but
don't think for a moment that these type
of things aren't happening and that countries aren't
trying to change
the perspective
of the people within a country.

(53:08):
Just like the story of the Trojan horse,
what's better to fight once you're
in the country than to try to fight
through the castle walls from the outside?
Here we are. Anyone that studies war or
battle will understand that there's ever a way
in you want to get in.
And propaganda takes many forms. We some of
it's more hardcore and is designed for

(53:30):
a takeover of a country and its ideology.
Other things are much softer. We've seen a
lot of things being posted now by
essentially under the guide and the direction, I'm
sure, of the
CCP
in China
regarding our current situation with tariffs with that
country.
TikTok videos, Instagram,

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just basically trying to
undermine what's being attempted here and what we're
doing to try to level the playing field.
And they're trying to paint a picture. We
have, I think, a clip that we can
share that gives an example of the many
clips that are flooded social media
to give the Chinese version
of

(54:11):
what they want us to believe reality is.
Let's Yeah. But while we get that pulled
up, let me just finish the discussion. The
most ironic thing about slavery is that the
term slavery comes from the word Slavs.
And that's because,
in ancient times, the most common slaves
were white slaves who came Slavic people came
from Russia, Ukraine, etcetera.

(54:33):
And the slave traders were mostly Muslims, so
they would go all the way there and
trade slaves
and
mostly sexual slaves, a lot of, sexual slaves,
but bring slaves to service
during a lot of the golden age of
Islam was propped up on a lot of
slavery, specifically slavery that came from the Slavs.
So the fact that anybody who is white
is now evil of being a slave owner

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when the term slave comes from white slaves
and when The United Kingdom
was would actively
embargo countries who would not abolish slavery. They
forced most of the world to abolish slavery.
And now we are made in British and
American schools to be ashamed that we are
American, to be ashamed that we are British,
to ignore the fact that we are one

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of the only countries, one of the only
societies in all of human history that abolished
slavery. And instead, it just reminisce on the
fact that because there were slaves, it means
that anybody who is light skinned is currently
evil, and anybody who is dark skinned is
therefore on some higher level. The whole woke
ideology,
the way they list the privileges of different
people is completely ludicrous, and, thankfully, that is
disappearing. But I just think that it's very

(55:37):
ironic
that anybody who mentions that Muslims were slave
owners was canceled, and anybody who mentioned that
slaves were originally white, not originally, there were
always slaves everywhere,
but the term slavery
comes from white slaves is, yeah, is very
funny. Obviously,
not to to undercount
the suffering of
the African slave trade, which was horrific,

(55:58):
which was completely horrific. And the way slaves
were treated everywhere in the world, including in
The United States, is not good. But what
we should focus on, what identify
what identifies us is the fact that we
are one of the only nations that stood
up to stop that. But back to Besanov,
if you demoralize somebody so much
and you get them so

(56:18):
desensitized,
even if you provide them all of the
real evidence, all of the real proof, even
if you take them to the gulags and
you show it to them, they are so
brainwashed
by three generations
of radical
leftist education
that they won't believe it until the boot
stamps on them and crushes them. And that's
the real sad part.

(56:39):
In unless we wake up, it will be
too late. So, thankfully, it seems like The
United States has started waking up with the
victory of Trump. We've seen Viktor Orban, although
I don't agree with him many things in
terms of Europe. He is definitely right wing
and kind of pro people, pro family, etcetera.
And we're seeing Javier Millet who's phenomenal in
Argentina. So it does seem.

(57:02):
Many people have started rejecting a lot of
the lunacy,
but the fact that it was
enabled and allowed
to control
our education system, to control our media, to
control our social media for so long is
scary. And we may be lucky that we
survived this kind of, but the, but the
skin of our teeth, is that the term?

(57:23):
Listen.
I would add that,
anyone who's ever read nineteen eighty four, George
Orwell's 19 80 four It's ironic the video
the year of that video being 1984, isn't
it? And but and there there are
similarities, right? Basically how they're subverting and changing
the way people are thinking. But if either
reading the book or watching the movie version

(57:43):
of it
towards the very end sorry, I'm gonna spoiler
alert. Here you go. We have the main
character in the movie
essentially
pinned down and being asked what two plus
two is.
And the expected answer is five, and he
finally
acquiesces and says,
it's five.

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And the guy holding him down looks at
him and says,
that's not good enough.
I don't want you to say that it's
five because
that's what we want you to say.
We want you to believe that it's five.
And that's the difference. It's not even just
going along with a narrative. It's
somehow
believing in something. There's a there's a belief

(58:27):
that if you repeat a falsehood
often enough,
that
it might seem to become true. Right? And
I think when you talk about things like
that, even racism and so forth, if people
are educated and brought up a certain way
and told certain things,
as a child through adulthood,
it's they've been damaged or stained is how

(58:49):
they're thinking
because that's the way they've been taught. And
that's that is an excuse,
but it's a painful reminder
that
people can be
twisted and turned into how they look at
the world.
And, these are things we have to be
aware of. And I think that's why education
and at all levels should encourage free thought
and speech.

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I think there should be debate if someone
has a point of view that's not
that others are not in agreement
with.
But the minute that we start grossly limiting
the way people can think about things can
lead to all kinds of really bad consequences.
So let's go ahead and watch this video
of Chinese propaganda behind the, the trade tariffs.

(59:32):
This is one of many floating around TikTok.
Here you go.
And suppliers behind,
some of their yoga wears are actually from
clothing
and quality.
And guess what? Both factories located here.
And these two factories also supply clothing for
filler and under armor. I guess most of
you know the price of For cooler.

(59:52):
For other big brand. They sell you in
lagging pants for hundred dollars. And guess what?
Here in these two sagres, they didn't get
them for around 5 to $6.
Crazy. And what's even better, the material and
the craftsmanship are basically the same because they
all come the same for production. Okay? The
this is why people come to China looking
for the OEM factory because they just can

(01:00:14):
get the cheapest and best quality product from
there.
Yeah. To be honest, it seems if you're
buying
there are videos similar videos for Hermes bags
and Gucci bags and stuff like that. I
think at least the high end Hermes stuff,
those are supposedly handmade in France, and it
seems more likely that they're handmade in France
than mass made in Chinese factories just because
the attention to detail and the quality of

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the stuff. But when you do talk about
more basic clothes clothing wear like
Lululemon pants,
there is like we saw mister wonderful mention
on in his senate hearing, there is a
very high chance
that the same factory that's producing Lululemon
at the moment
during the day at nighttime will produce a

(01:00:55):
copy of Lululemon. So, basically, the same production
line, same material, same quality
to be sold as a knockoff.
So that is something we're seeing a lot,
unfortunately, out of China, and it could theoretically
work to the benefit of Americans as we
have in the upcoming video.
Yeah. I think that, again, like everything in
life, there might be a kernel of truth.

(01:01:17):
Right?
But the narrative or the argument that they're
trying to portray is, hey. You don't need
The United States. We're we're all making we
make everything here, and The United States has
no value, no consequence.
China runs the show, and that's not a
fair
representation of what's going on. And also these
that they were given the opportunity to do
manufacturing.

(01:01:38):
That's great, but that means they're not going
to be able to get to the next
big product that's going to be that's going
to be launched because that's being led by
an American company
that, you know, now with all of this
going on, might not opt to have the
production line being tended to in China. It's
like, I think it's comical in a way.
They're shooting themselves in the foot, but I

(01:01:59):
can't blame them for trying.
Yeah. This next video definitely gives a perspective,
maybe a little more of a perspective in
and around
how
US companies
do business with the manufacturing end in China.
Go get this pulled up now. Chinese producers
are all over social media right now, and
they're exposing just who is targeted by Trump's

(01:02:21):
tariffs. And it's not the American consumers,
and it's not the Chinese producers.
It's actually our international
corporation
who have sold out American prosperity
for their own profits. Let me illustrate. Let's
use this example of Nike. Now these are
fictitious numbers, just for example. But let's say
that Nike buys shoes from this company that

(01:02:43):
manufactures Nike shoes for $10
a Nike shoe, which isn't very far off.
Nike turns around and sells that shoe at
retail for a hundred dollars. Here's the interesting
part about tariffs.
You're not paying tariffs on the retail price.
This is not a tax in the classic
sense. The way the economists who are bought
and paid for are trying to conflate it

(01:03:04):
as it is a tax
on the import.
This means with a 25%
tariff, Nike's gonna have to pay $2.50
to the US government every time it imports
a Nike shoe at $10. So this $2.50
gets remitted to the American government, to American
citizens.
Now Nikes cost
$10 for the shoe,

(01:03:24):
$2.50
for the import tax.
This means they're netting $87
per shoe. Now that's net, not profit. There
are gonna be other costs that are gonna
have to come from that. But you can
see that the increase in cost is $2.50.
So let's say that Nike passes the entire
cost onto the consumer, even a little more,
just because of the fear of tariffs.

(01:03:46):
A hundred and $3 a shoe now.
That is the impact of a 25%
tariff. So what the Chinese producers
on TikTok are saying, instead of the American
consumer buying it for a hundred and $3,
or let's just say that the company Nike
eats all $2.50
of the tariff and still sells it for
a hundred, you're way better off over here
paying directly to China including the tariff, twelve

(01:04:09):
fifty issue plus shipping.
So as you can see, the tariffs are
not meant to hurt consumers. They're not meant
to hurt China. They don't really affect China
at all. They're meant to protect American industry.
They're meant to protect Americans
from their corporations who will sell them out
for a profit. So if you look hard,
you'll notice that the people who are screaming

(01:04:31):
about how bad tariffs are for consumers,
it's these companies right here. It's Wall Street.
It's all the investors in these companies because
they don't want American citizens to realize
these companies have sold them out and that
they're not doing Americans any favors.
Yeah. So I think this is very interesting
because I think it'll be surprising to a

(01:04:52):
few people, a few aspects of this. First
of all, people assume, and the way many
times, like, the media will portray it is
that if an item costs a hundred dollars
and there's a 20% tariff, you will be
paying a hundred and $20.
When in reality, the tariff is always on
the import, and if the import is only
costing Nike ten dollars, then it would be
$12. Right? So that itself is one thing
whereas, like, we thought that these tariffs are

(01:05:13):
gonna raise prices by $20.
In reality, it'll raise prices by $2. It's
much easier for one side or another to
swallow.
The other aspect and there is so this
is it's a mixed bag. These international corporations,
it's true. They've basically sold us out, and
they rip us off. Right? The same exact
product.
Anybody who's familiar with kind of, gray market
items on a lot of ecommerce websites, what

(01:05:34):
companies will do is they will use gray
market. So if you import Panasonic
computers or phones or whatever Panasonic printers, let's
say, or screens to The United States from
Japan,
then you have to do it through The
United States importer for Panasonic items, and you're
gonna have to pay United States prices. What
a lot of companies will do is they
will purchase items from Namibia

(01:05:57):
or Kenya or somewhere else very cheap. And
because
Panasonic
knows that they can't sell the same product
at the same price that they do to
American consumers
to European consumers, let alone to African consumers.
Right? So the price in Africa is the
way cheaper sometimes a third or a fifth
of the price, and then the gray market
sellers will go and take the authentic Panasonic

(01:06:17):
item, bring it to The United States, and
sell it at The United States for a
discounted price and a profit. It is true
that and we've even seen this with, like,
medicine where, you know, the same pill that
in The United States will cost you a
hundred dollars in in Japan or Israel or
Germany
will cost $10,
and in Egypt, we'll sell for $2.
And the manufacturer is selling it for a

(01:06:39):
profit at $2.
But they still sell it at a hundred
dollars in America because they can, because Medicare
and Medicaid will pay for it, etcetera. It
is true that a lot of these big
brand names are screwing over American people. The
counterargument to that and what we've seen back
to the hearing of mister wonderful
was a lot of what these companies are
doing are stealing American intellectual property. Now how

(01:07:00):
much of this intellectual property is really drilling
innovation? Right? When we're talking about tech that's
much more popular, when talking about a piece
of Lululemon pants, probably not that much. Even
if theoretically, Lululemon has 12,000,000 patents,
the fact is that it's not real intellectual
property that they're stealing. So I think there
is some differentiation to be made because many
times what they're doing is stealing American intellectual

(01:07:22):
property. And, obviously, if they're using the emblem,
the symbol of the company legally, that's straight
up a theft or
plagiarism or just
Well, IP theft. They're basically stealing the brand.
They're stealing the, you know, the technology that
was in place to make that for that
company. But they do that all the time,
so that's not a big shocker. But
and thanks to the Gentry Givers Instagram channel

(01:07:43):
and Luke David Johnson for that explanation because,
ultimately,
it's important to look at the different sides
to all of this. Right? Don't you agree?
Yeah. Definitely.
And Yeah. So like we said, there's a
lot of the companies stealing American people, but
then there's a lot of, like, genuine research.
Does Nike do research and development? Yes. They
definitely do. And do they discover new materials,
new processes,

(01:08:04):
ways to to build and develop stuff? They
do also. Right? So the fact that the
factories they should have some right to some
of that profit, but it is also true
that they gouge and don't treat American people
equally because if they can sell it, let's
say, profitably for $15
in Africa, then they should be able to
sell it profitably for $15 in The United
States. And the fact that they can bill

(01:08:25):
people a hundred dollars for it, capitalism is
what people are willing to pay for it.
So as long as people are willing to
put up with it,
then this will continue. But if people now
have an option to just go to Alibaba
and purchase it directly,
and, again, if they're stealing American intellectual property,
that's not fine. But for really basic stuff
like sweatpants or whatever,
then it can save Americans a lot of

(01:08:46):
money, basically cutting out the middlemen who's been
taking the vast majority of the profits along
the way. Because they we all know that
the factory workers in China don't make anything
and are treated like slaves. The factory owners
can be very rich, but still they're not
the ones taking the majority of the profits
that typically goes to the American international brands.
And, yes, they have many costs, but also

(01:09:07):
it's not always fair. So just an interesting
food of food for thought. Yeah. And, arguably,
China's being capitalistic as a country trying
to do to wheel and deal and do
what it can do. And one of the
things we were
also in our discussions before starting this episode
had to do with the
the massive takeover of land in The United

(01:09:27):
States. But, oddly, the some of the locations
are in interesting locales. They're not all beachfront
properties.
Surprisingly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, with that China
likes to buy a lot of farming land
farming land. But when you monitor the locations
of where those those tend to be,
it does seem ironic. And the factory the
the fact that we're allowing other countries to

(01:09:47):
purchase our
very, very
good land. So The United States has some
of the most something like, nutrient dense land
in the world, some of the best farmland
on planet Earth. And the fact that we're
just letting other nations just take it and
then theoretically control our food supply is a
little frightening, but this clip from doctor Phil
is very interesting.
Yeah. So the food supply would just be

(01:10:08):
part of the interest. This is from doctor
Phil Primetime, and he's asking
president Trump basically on this land acquisition that's
keeps happening and growing across United States, but
he points out where they're strategically buying the
land. Let's play that.
The red is where
Chinese
government has funded buying major farmland.

(01:10:32):
Yeah. And then superimposed
on that
are some of our most strategic
military bases. Yeah. So this the fact that
many of our nuke and our ICBM intercontinental
ballistic missile launch sites
and many other very valuable military sites
happen to randomly very be very close to

(01:10:52):
the farmland that China happens to randomly purchase
is a very unique coincidence. And like we
saw,
China has been waging an economic war on
The United States, an intellectual war on The
United States, a cultural war, at least communism
has a cultural
war on The United States and its allies.
And here, this seems like very

(01:11:12):
realistic military war. Obviously, it's not a war,
but it seems like laying the ground for
something.
Even if it's just in intel gathering, etcetera,
setting up sensors,
who would notice a sensor in the middle
of a corn farm field? And what if
it can monitor every plane that takes off,
every test launch of a missile,
the cars or the people that come and
go from different facilities? Yeah.

(01:11:34):
I think it's very
concerning, and I think that's not an appropriate
place. Maybe we should encourage them to look
at some other properties instead.
Maybe they shouldn't be buying controlling US farmland,
period. Maybe Americans should control
at least the ability to feed America.
That's crucial.
I know some ranchers and farmers, and I
can tell you they would agree. It's

(01:11:55):
become a real problem.
That's a whole other discussion.
Large corporations taking over family farms and but
that wasn't enough. Now we have
these multi generation
farming operations that are being essentially lost. And
if that wasn't enough now to recognize that
foreign countries, China in this case,
are

(01:12:15):
coming in, the companies from those countries backed
by their government
to do whatever is necessary for them to
acquire land in The United States. Very important
pieces of land that we really should have
control of for strategic reasons,
for national security reasons.
So again, maybe a talk for another day,
but definitely a concern. And it all ties

(01:12:35):
in. It's not just a trade war. That's
why you have to look at the bigger
picture. It isn't just that we're imposing tariffs
on another country because we are concerned about
the price of a specific good or how
much we can export to that country. These
things are all part of a much bigger
picture. And I just think it's important for
us to
keep that in mind when we sometimes see
the headlines or

(01:12:56):
the legacy media screaming about something that they
may not be explaining all the aspects of
it. And just like
one of these recent stories now that's all
over the news,
we obviously know that the border crossings
along the southern border and northern border of
Canada, but certainly the southern border have basically
stopped. There's almost no one crossing now. Since

(01:13:18):
the new administration, President Trump has gotten in.
And
ultimately, I lived eleven years on The US
Mexico border, and I can tell you it
wasn't being reported by the media as to
what was happening there. It was crazy.
I actually saw someone drowning in the Rio
Grande trying to get across. It was just
horrible.
We talked earlier about slave trade, and that's

(01:13:40):
alive and well with a lot of the
people coming over
owing a debt to the cartels that got
them over.
And there are a lot of unaccompanied minors,
tens of thousands, if not more, that have
vanished. We don't know where they are in
The United States, got handed off from one
agency to another, and we've lost track of
them. And it's very concerning as to what

(01:14:00):
likely is happening to these kids. That's and
that's just the reality of what happens at
the border, what happens when we aren't careful
with
the operation of our country. And
ultimately now, of course, there's a much more
stringent
position with regards to illegal immigration and specifically

(01:14:20):
to those who are known
drug cartel members or gang members.
And we have one guy out of Maryland
that's he has a father and
has been taken away from his family, and
there's such a big to do about it.
And it's interesting how the media doesn't often
portray the whole
picture. They're talking about a father who's been

(01:14:41):
taken from his family and needs to be
brought back.
We've been following this, and it just, again,
we would wish that in these discussions that
they would be completely transparent and open about
all the aspects of this particular case. And
just like a lot of things in the
media, they focus on one case. This is
the one right now,
and it's It's not even a very justified
case for them to focus on. Let's just

(01:15:01):
say that. Yeah. It's odd. We have a
few clips that we would wanna share with
our audience, so I think we should I'll
queue the first one up. It's just
I think some of these clips will help
put this in perspective for whom that's not
been really following
really the case.
The first one
is from Fox News. I'm gonna

(01:15:22):
bring that up, and we can play it
here.
Here you go. Do you respond to these
democratic lawmakers, including Van Hollen, who say they're
gonna now ask for a meeting with the
president there in El Salvador?
They're gonna travel there and demand his release.
Good luck with that. Carol Levin is exactly
right. Every time I read a story about

(01:15:44):
this, it's Maryland father, Maryland father. They don't
mention he's a member of of MS thirteen.
It was it doesn't take terrorist group. One
of the most violent gangs in the world.
They don't mention he's MS thirteen member. They
don't mention he's a El Salvadoran
citizen being held by the country of El
Salvador. El Salvador makes that decision. Now the
court said we gotta facilitate.
We'll facilitate,

(01:16:04):
but El Salvador has full authority on this.
Again, a terrorist threat. Now we now if
somehow he comes back and that happens, he's
gonna be detained and removed again. He's a
MS thirteen gang member based on our intelligence
and El Salvador's intelligence. He will be detained,
and he will be deported. But what's the
sense of bringing someone back to simply go
and face deportation again? He's a public safety

(01:16:26):
threat. He's a gang member. He's a designated
terrorist. We should not be bringing any of
those people back to The United States. That's
my opinion. Not to mention, he's just illegal.
That was Tom Holland, the, borders czar. But
these people were here illegally and committed crimes
and were caught in the association of other
known terrorists
of with, I think, Trendo,
Aragua. And he was convicted of beating his

(01:16:48):
wife, and
he supposedly, he or some of the other
people who were in the car with him
were caught murdering people from the state of
the senator.
And the senator is
so caring,
so emotional that he literally flew all the
way to El Salvador
to try and bring this illegal back illegally
into The United

(01:17:09):
States. That's senator Chris VanHollen. We'll actually get
to a clip of that. Again, this I
thought this first clip was helpful in setting
the stage, and that was brought to us
by the Libs of TikTok, I believe, Instagram
channel. They did a pretty good job of
taking note of that very well, very well
put together
a panel at with Fox News. But there's

(01:17:30):
so much information. In fact, every time it
seems that someone tries to point out
that the gentleman who was using the term
loosely, who was deported,
basically sent to CCOT, the
ultra
high security
penitentiary
in El Salvador.
Anyone that tries to point out that he's
a known MS thirteen,

(01:17:51):
either gang member or affiliated with the gang
or connected in some way, enough that
both law enforcement and various courts have decided
he can't be here,
The bottom line is he was removed from
The United States,
and everyone's saying they want him back. The
question is
back for what? Only to be re deported
to another country?

(01:18:11):
And they keep referring to Salvador. I think
he's from El Salvador. Like, where else he
was? In the country right. He's in the
country that he holds his nationality with. And
there was a there was an order from
a judge
at the time years ago that said the
one place not to send him was El
Salvador, but it had to do with the
fact that at the time, it was believed
he was going to be going back and

(01:18:32):
reenergizing
himself with the gangs the gang he was
affiliated with over there. So
it's being taken out of context.
But every time someone tries to voice this,
many news stations, many networks just basically
hide the entire
mention
of the fact that this particular person
wasn't an altar boy waiting to go in

(01:18:53):
for
Sunday service. There's a next clip is actually
from MSNBC,
and it actually was
a pleasant thing. Mehmet Oz, Doctor. Oz, was
being
confirmed
for his new role that he's going to
help lead Medicare and Medicaid
here in The United States, and he was

(01:19:14):
being confirmed.
And, of course, at some point,
a question came up and it was brought
up in response by President Trump that the
person that was that has been removed from
The United States has quite a checkered past.
Look what happens and look what the this
particular network does when that's mentioned. That's what
I think is interesting. You would think news

(01:19:36):
organizations are there to report the news,
good, bad, and indifferent.
Let me just play that.
In 02/2019,
Garcia was issued a deportation order. Two separate
judges affirm Garcia was a member of MS
thirteen, which is a gang that may be
even worse. We've been watching president Donald Trump
there swearing in the new administrator

(01:19:58):
of the CMS, the Centers for Medicare and
Medicaid, doctor Mehmet Oz, during this conversation. Deflection.
If anybody watched the White House event of
when president Bukele,
it was awesome, to be honest. When he
came to the White House and when he
was meeting with Trump, a deranged CNN reporter
asked a very similar question.
And
Trump it it's just a master class of

(01:20:20):
a takedown because Trump basically goes from minister
and just lets them just take it down.
Anybody who hasn't watched it should definitely watch
it. It is brilliant. It is about five
minutes in length. But at the end, she
after being crushed by the fact that even
the Supreme Court didn't take the side that
CNN really wants to support, which is the
side of the terrorist, and,
she turns to Bukele and says, will you

(01:20:42):
please bring him back? And Bukele says, are
you crazy? You want me to illegally smuggle
an illegal person into The United States
who is a criminal?
Who will who faces deportation.
So he shuts her down completely, and this
is after Stephen Miller and all the rest
of the White House staff. They really just
tore into her because the question is so

(01:21:02):
ridiculous. And this kind of gets back to
a point that in The Middle East, we've
noticed for a very long time, and that
is that
legacy media and many times the court systems
support the terrorists. There's no other way of
putting it or understanding it, but they always
end up taking the side of the terrorists
and as opposed to their victims. And it
is ironic.
It is disgusting,

(01:21:23):
but it is something we've seen time and
time again is that the mainstream media cares
so much
for the way
the the terrorist
that raped and murdered Israelis
on the October 7 are treated or in
Israeli prisons.
Back, ten or fifteen years ago, there was
a time period
when everybody was so worried about the diet

(01:21:43):
of the terrorists in Israeli prisons. Now just
to understand, in the West Bank and Gaza
the Gaza Strip, many of these people
grow up eating a pita bread and some
hummus on a regular basis, and that's a
good meal.
But the United Nations and the EU were
so worried
that aside from Israel, having a professional
chef team, cooking team, prepare food for the

(01:22:05):
inmates, they also had the EU was so
worried about them that they had their own
chefs
preparing their own three course dishes for these
terrorists. And then the
UN also sponsored
their own chefs. So the prisoners can basically
choose from three different menus which food they
wanted.
Thankfully, after October 7, this is no longer

(01:22:26):
the situation, and most of these terrorists are
now treated the way, these gangsters are treated
in Cicotte in the, in the maximum security
prison in El Salvador, which is don't make
their life nice. When somebody grew up eating
stale bread and homeless every single day, and
then
going to jail means you get to to
eat luxurious three star restaurants, These European countries
would ship in chefs, like French professional chefs,

(01:22:48):
to prepare food for terrorists, designated terrorists, somebody
who who was who walked in the forest,
saw a woman hiking, and raped her and
stabbed her to death, saw a professor
taking a stroll on the morning on his
way to give a class in university and
just beat him and stabbed him and tortured
him to death. Like, these are the people
the Europeans were so worried about.
The courts were so worried about. The the

(01:23:10):
newspapers,
The news agencies were so caring for
that it elevated their quality of life drastically.
And then Israel had a philosophy of saying,
maybe if we educate these people, they will
stop being terrorists so they could get free
university degrees while in Israeli prison. So, basically,
you get free university degrees. You get three
three three meals a day where you get

(01:23:30):
to choose which menu you like from professional
European chefs. And the Palestinian Authority using United
Nations money, using American funding, using European funding,
will pay the salary
of every every single terrorist based on how
many murders how many Jews they injure or
murder.
The more Jews they injure or murder, the

(01:23:51):
longer their sentences,
the more their family gets paid for their
heroic act. So if you grew up and
you have no
positive
outlook for life because you live in a
place where Ahmed Abbas, Abu Mazen, has been
who won the election for four years, and
he's been ruling for the past twenty and
is extremely corrupt no matter who you ask.

(01:24:12):
Everybody agrees that he's extremely corrupt. He's worth
billions of dollars now. So if you've got
no prospect
and
but if you just take a kitchen knife
and you go and you stab a Jewish
child,
your family will be taken care of. They'll
get a salary for the rest of the
their life. A school in your neighborhood will
be renamed after you.
The roundabout

(01:24:34):
near your house will be renamed after you.
They'll put a statue up there for you.
You'll spend time in Israeli prison. The longer
you get in Israeli prison, the more money
your family will get, and you get a
better quality of life in Israeli prison
than your current standard of life. Why would
you not be a terrorist? This is like
avoiding the entire
social
and, and religious aspects of why people take

(01:24:56):
up terrorism. Right? But it's just absurd the
situation and what we're seeing here of these
these news anchors fawning over this terrorist. Right?
Who objectively is just a horrible guy, who
objectively was in The United States illegally,
right, just caring for him so much and
trying to hide the fact that anybody tries
to criticize or anybody's mentioning anything negative about

(01:25:17):
him is just really dirty, and it's one
of the reasons why legacy media has lost
all credibility.
Yeah. What you're describing is the same MO
of gangs, various gangs
throughout the world. In Mexico, it's like that.
You do what you're asked. I can tell
you some stories, maybe on another episode of
things that were recounted me firsthand as to
how

(01:25:37):
drug cartels in Mexico would recruit and why
they would encourage them and why they even
kids that otherwise had never committed a crime
and were good kids would get involved
and could never and couldn't leave. Okay. Once
you're in kind of thing. It's very tragic.
And ultimately,
people are swept into some of these organizations

(01:25:58):
and wind up being part of that ideology.
The sad part, as you're saying, is how
it's reported.
And we have here a clip, very short
clip from
MSNBC,
Senator Elizabeth Warren, the Democrat from Massachusetts
via the Western lens man
X channel,
who thought of

(01:26:19):
catching this and sharing it with the world.
And we're going to reshare it just to
show how absolutely insane
you can take a situation where you have
someone that
has been taken out of the country,
lost all rights to be here, is not
a citizen of The United States, is back
in their country, is in jail there. If
you want to go and lobby for them
to

(01:26:39):
do something different with them in that country,
that's fine.
But there's no real basis for us to
have our elected officials traveling around the world
to somehow do that. I'm sure they have
their own elected officials there to do it.
Regardless,
here's just I couldn't have made this up.
I couldn't believe that someone would actually
say what she's about to say. I think
let's listen to it and then we can

(01:27:00):
talk some more. Yeah. Let's watch Pocahontas.
We do not disappear people in The United
States because here's the thing.
If they can disappear,
the Strabrega Garcia,
then they can disappear you. It's about disappearing
people, but it's also about obeying court orders.

(01:27:22):
But now we've got is truly a man
who threatened yet a spineless bunch of Republicans
in the house and senate who
help it along.
And the American people saying, wait a minute.
I think this is the moment we're gonna
have to start fighting back for our country.
Yes, Pocahontas. Why don't you start caring about
the all the tax dollars that somehow

(01:27:44):
you disappeared of,
allegedly?
It's mind boggling. Okay? Just that she is
spending this much effort
to
advance
such a narrative.
It's very hard to and, again, people hear
this and figure,
oh, it's so horrible. This person has been

(01:28:04):
what did how did she call it? Disappeared.
And that they're coming for you now. We
better watch out. They're gonna come for all
of us. Maybe if you're an illegal alien
who's a criminal, then maybe she is and
maybe they're involved in involved with not just
gang activity,
but MS thirteen is a it's a ruthless
again, if anyone follows

(01:28:25):
and that's another thing too. A lot of
this isn't really well publicized,
okay, as to what crazy,
horrific things
are done by these
organizations.
When I was living on the Mexican border
at the time I was there, it was
quite common that minutes across the Rio Grande
from where I was living,
people were being hung

(01:28:47):
from
Overpasses.
People being beheaded.
It was most people in The United States
didn't know. They never saw or heard of
that. And unless you were living in an
area like that, you had no idea either.
It's it took me literally several years of
living there
to just
accept that's what was going on in Mexico.

(01:29:09):
I kept asking myself, wasn't the government there
going to do something to stop it?
Silly me. What's The US doing to stop
it and so forth? And
ultimately, it was just hard to
fathom that people living just minutes from where
I was living across the border
were
they were living in fear of having

(01:29:30):
not just being killed,
but being severely tortured before being killed. So
it was quite a thing. And then you
have people like Senator
Chris Van Hollen, who, again, has taken on
this big cause. I'm not completely sure how
he feels it's going to help all of
his constituents, but he feels that this one
man who's been deported is his constituent as

(01:29:51):
well, and he's going to go and fight
to the end and ultimately has traveled
to go meet with the president of El
Salvador, to meet with the people from the
prison, to see what he can do. And
again, if he can make the living situation
in the prison there better for this one
individual,
again, I think that's an admirable cause. I
just don't understand

(01:30:12):
how you can do that with the false
narrative that it's just some random
American who's been sent away for no good
reason. That's the issue I have. If he
wants to be Mother Teresa and go over
there and try to help a fellow human
being despite
what that person atrocities they may have done
or may have been connected to other people
who did, That's a whole other conversation. It

(01:30:34):
just you don't expect your elected officials to
be spending their time and energy
to travel like that for
someone like this.
Yeah. Ironically, supposedly, some of his own constituents
were murdered by the same gangs of these
these terrorists, mister Tien and Trenda or or
Arugua and stuff like that. And I think
he never even went to visit the families

(01:30:56):
of the bereaved
who were suffering
from the outcome of the actions.
Instead, he flew
to internationally
to try and free against the will of
the president of El Salvador
to try and act to free this this
supposed terrorist. So, yeah, if they only cared
about their

(01:31:16):
constituents as much as they cared about the
illegal
e alien criminals
who are acting in their states, then maybe
their states would be better places to live
in and less people would be leaving them
for Texas and
Florida and other more conservative leaning states.
I would say that's another very important point
that a lot of the media
just completely ignores the story of

(01:31:38):
the the victims.
They look at these stories, and they talk
only about
how sad it is that the person that
that, you know, that's connected to bad things
that they they've been asked and required to
leave the country, whereas
what bad things happen here. In fact,
this deported individual, who again is not a
US citizen and has no legal basis to

(01:32:00):
be in The United States, if he returns,
he's only gonna be deported again. The thing
people forget is this is not a good
person. He's he was arrested. He had orders
already for having beaten his wife
in the past, I think, at least on
a couple of occasions. So all that being
said,
this is not a pleasant thing to be
discussing. It's just
shocking. It's not good all around.
The guy's a father,

(01:32:21):
a spouse,
You don't want him being separated from his
family regardless, but that he is.
You have to put it in context. Let's
hear what, senator
senator Holland has to say about his visit
to El Salvador. We just
tried to go
visit him in prison
just to check on his conditions.

(01:32:42):
Is he doing okay? Because nobody has any
communication with him since he was illegally
abducted
from Maryland and sent to Secot Prison in
El Salvador,
which is a U S District Court Judge
said was a violation of all his due
process rights.
Today's purpose was just to see what his

(01:33:04):
health condition
is. And these soldiers were ordered to prevent
us from going any farther from this spot.
I understand we're about three kilometers now from
CCOT. And as you can see, they're letting
other cars
go by, but they stopped us because they're
under orders
not to allow us to proceed

(01:33:25):
to check on
well-being
of Gilmore Abrego.
The amount of care that they have for
criminals, for
cartel members, and for terrorists
is just astonishing.
If they had a tenth of that level
of care for their own constituents,
their own people, the victims who've suffered in
the hands of these terrorists,

(01:33:46):
then the world would be a much better
place. But some people are just morally corrupt,
like we saw Basimenev very clearly lay out.
When you have three generations of brainwashed people,
no matter how much truth you you slap
in the you slap in their faces, they
will just continue to be brainwashed until the
boot comes and crushes them themselves.
Yeah.
It's again, it's hard to watch.

(01:34:08):
It doesn't make sense given
the full understanding of what's going on. I
think that's
one of the
things that people that are looking at this
are shaking their heads
going, how could they be spending so much
time and effort trying to help
someone who is
certainly suspected to be very connected
to MS thirteen, at the very least, doesn't

(01:34:29):
have status in The United States.
And ultimately,
what about all the other things going on
here? What about protecting the communities here? So
it just seems very concerning.
The next clip that I think we we
discussed sharing,
I think, talks a little more about that
particular
side of things, how it maybe helps bring

(01:34:50):
it full circle and to explain that the
way that we
look at things maybe need to take in
consideration
the needs of the people living here that
are US citizens and legally here and that
aren't connected to gang activity. Violent criminals.
Yeah. This is a slip clip from Fox
Business. Let me play that. Thanks. There's a
lot of places in The United States that

(01:35:10):
would like to see an official delegation of
Democrat congressional members like their own districts, cities
like Los Angeles and Detroit still, certainly Baltimore,
the nature of what's happening in New York.
My goodness, San Francisco
still. These are people who've abandoned their own
neighborhoods, their own districts to policies
that destroy lives every day. And the person

(01:35:32):
at issue here, an alleged MS thirteen gang
member, is not a United States citizen. He's
an El Salvadoran
citizen. And they were also complaining about money,
about the nature of us facilitating some of
the costs to imprison these criminals,
gang members, general misanthropes,
back repatriating
them back to their own countries

(01:35:55):
to be able to be imprisoned or housed,
whatever those countries are going to determine to
do with them, that they're complaining about the
cost when they want to fly
congressional members to that country to have press
conferences.
This is the absurdity that Americans have been
facing for too long. Americans deserve representation,
safe cities, the ability for their children to

(01:36:16):
be safe at home, for their daughters to
come home
alive.
To the the it is outrageous that the
concern we see for alleged gang members or
men who are domestic violence perpetrators
who are here illegally,
who are not citizens of this nation,
and that is the focus of the Democratic

(01:36:36):
Party when Americans every day
and this is why Trump is the president,
is because they want things to be different
and to be better, and that is gonna
be brought by the Trump administration.
So the Democrats,
we see every day what their priorities are,
and it's not the American people. And so
the hope is that the American people have
enough memory to last another year and a
half and remember these corrupt congressmen and state

(01:36:59):
representatives
and boot them out of office and not
let them be reelected.
Obviously, just go out and vote against them,
and hopefully, they will be replaced. But like
we said,
theoretically,
in some of these districts,
some of these people may have some really
radical supporters who are in in until death

(01:37:19):
with these state representatives no matter how much
they act
in the service of illegal criminal aliens, violent
aliens,
as opposed to their own constituents. Do we
have a, happy ending to, to get to?
Yeah. We have a few things. Let next
thing would be basically just a quick snippet
in trying to understand what do people really
think about all these deportations.

(01:37:40):
What is the position on this?
And From our favorite CNN poster.
Yep. So what is CNN reporting as far
as what's the sentiment
now in The United States regarding all these
deportations, not just this case in particular, but
in general? And I think that's it's very,
very telling. Let's put that up.
Deport all undocumented immigrants.

(01:38:00):
Voters favoring the government trying to deport all
11,000,000 of them. Back in 2016, just 38%
of voters wanted the government to to try
to deport all 11,000,000
undocumented immigrants compared to where we are in
2025.
'50 '6 percent, the majority. The American people
have come a long way on this issue,

(01:38:21):
much closer to Donald Trump, and I think
that's a big part of the reason why
Americans are increasingly saying the country is on
the right track when it comes to immigration
policy and why Donald Trump's net approval rating
on that issue is in the positive. And
it's just interesting to watch, especially when you
see the CNN cohost's face where she's basically
crying.
She's so mad and angry and frustrated
at the fact that Americans care about America.

(01:38:44):
I think one of the reasons
why
MAGA was so hated, and again, I was
not a member of MAGA in any way,
shape, or form, but I was surprised by
the amount of hatred that they face.
I think the people who hate MAGA
don't just hate because they think that Trump
is far right, extremist, Nazi, etcetera. Maybe some
of them, the diluted ones.

(01:39:06):
Some of them have been so influenced,
so demoralized, like Bessemanov said, that they don't
want to see America great again.
They don't.
They wanna see America fail, and they voted
politicians who will act in order
to make America fail. So I think of
the war now is between civilization. People wanna
continue to build and grow and thrive and

(01:39:28):
make this country greater than it's ever been.
And, yes, there are issues. Yes, there are
problems. Everything can and will be fixed, hopefully,
versus people who all they wanna do is
tear it down and create an destruction and
depression
who believe that there is no fix for
the evils of the past aside from creating
new evils of the current. We are definitely
not subscribers to that. And they was that
our last video in on the subject?

(01:39:51):
On the subject, yes. And I think as
we wrap things up, it's always good to
have some humor. As I always say, laughter
is the best medicine.
And why not call on our friends at
the Babylon Bee to put some perspective on
some of the worldly situations that are going
on? The first is just one of the
posts that they actually have.

(01:40:13):
American hostages in Gaza disguise themselves as MS
thirteen gang members, so Democrats will fly to
bring them home.
We'll fight to bring them home. It will
fly over there to arrange for their release
because there's,
obviously,
the net the sarcasm
and humor is basically saying that we have
a coalition of
democratic politicians who are looking to get together

(01:40:34):
and all fly to El Salvador to bring
home this one
alleged MS thirteen gang member.
Perhaps if the
people being held in
captivity
were MS thirteen gang members, they would get
the same similar level of attention. We keep
perhaps
not seeing this on the news anymore,

(01:40:56):
but before we know it, October is going
to be coming again.
And we still have
hostages that are being held in just absolutely
deplorable,
not even a strong enough word, conditions.
And the hope is that they're still alive
and hanging there, hanging on there.
But through satire and

(01:41:17):
Babylon Bee's typical
commentary, what they're basically saying is, hey, maybe
we need to focus the attention and energy
and resources to bring
some folks home who really do need to
be brought home.
And I think that
ultimately that's an important thing, and it's important
for us to be reminded of it, even

(01:41:38):
if through
a sort of slapstick
sort of humor. But in the same extreme
realm, there's this other
that we stumbled upon
that that kind of sums things up sometimes
when it comes to it's better to laugh
than to cry.
And let's just say it's some people's perspective
on

(01:41:58):
The United States and our
democratic republic.
And perhaps given some of the politicians we
have and some of the things they do
and say,
it doesn't surprise me that there are people
around the world that might view
us in this light.
So this is a very quick clip. I
don't agree. Funny couple of the kernel of

(01:42:20):
truth like most things that I find. With
the commentary
outright,
but it does maybe help paint a picture
as to why
sometimes other countries look at us a certain
way.
And here we go. Because democracy
basically
means
government
by the people,

(01:42:40):
of the people,
for the people, but the people
are retarded.
Yeah. That is just so good. The delivery
is just so good. It is just hysterical.
And, again, there is a kernel of truth
like we were saying. When your representatives
care more about terrorists than they care about
their own constituents,
then, yes, maybe it is a government of
the people, by the people, for the people,

(01:43:01):
but they are What's the people. Let's always
but the question is what people?
Exactly.
Let's open some third party people.
I think that I think this brings us
to an end of episode six,
and I think we've covered a lot of
ground.
And, look, hopefully,
there was enough
for our listeners

(01:43:22):
to
find reason to research more and educate themselves
more on all these topics and to agree
or disagree with us, but at least to
continue the conversation
on the comments.
Please comment. Go ahead. We're here to hear
the feedback, and we want you to be
part of the community.
Awesome. Thank you everybody for joining, and we'll

(01:43:43):
see you guys again in episode seven.
Thank you, Joe.
Bye, y'all. Bye, everyone.
Have a great night.

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