May 15, 2023 • 46 mins
Enjoy this incredibly informative, lively and entertaining conversation with Dr. Grace. We’re talking integration of mind and body, biohacks, gizmos and doohickeys, corn syrup, olympic training, spirituality, Dr. Google, thanking Carl Lewis, everything zen… and so much more. Check out this episode's landing page, links to topic resources and contact info for Dr Grace at The Zenquest of Leaders with Dr Grace Hameister — zenquest.online.
Here’s a quick summary on today’s guest…
•Since 1999, Dr. Grace has been in practice as a licensed and board-certified doctor of chiropractic, and advanced cold laser specialist in San Francisco and Beverly Hills, California, and now in Wisconsin.
•She has over 6,000 hours of advanced classroom and clinical orthomolecular nutrition experience, including her own trademarked cleanse and weight loss program, which has been very successful among her patients and corporate clients.
•A former Olympic-level rhythmic gymnast, World-Champion water skier, and post-grad assistant performing cancer research in immunology, Dr. Grace has intimate knowledge of how the body can function at its best - from the cellular level, on up to full-body systems integration and repair.
•While educating on the effectiveness of alternative care and integrative medicine, Dr. Grace is adamant about always being armed with the most current high-tech medical equipment and scientifically valid modern health solutions.
•From cold laser therapy for accelerated tissue repair and pain management, to anti-aging solutions with cellular detoxification, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, functional blood panel analysis, applied kinesiology, body composition analysis, and meditation & visualization techniques, Dr Grace integrates select tools for the most effective individual outcomes and consistent clinical results.
•As a current member of the American Academy of Private Physicians, you may find her working in her clinical setting, backstage in a VIP green room, private home, or on a corporate campus designing corporate wellness programs.
•Her life as an elite athlete merged with geeky scientist, and this combo has brought her to live and work in the world of high-powered executives, entertainers, athletes, gifted practitioners, and innovative thinkers who are having a positive impact on people and our planet.
•Currently, she sees patients in the 3rd Ward in Milwaukee, and is the Founder and CEO of her HealthTech startup Food FiXR, which is gaining massive momentum.
•Dr Grace is the host of the highly popular (un)Common Medicine podcast, where you’ll find another collaborative podcast with our host Jess Ollenburg.
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Jessica Ollenburg (00:00):
Since 1999, Dr. Grace has been in practice
as a licensed and boardcertified doctor of chiropractic
and advanced cold laserspecialist in San Francisco and
Beverly Hills, California, andnow in Wisconsin. She has over
6000 hours of advanced classroomand clinical orthomolecular
(00:22):
nutrition experience, includingher own trademarked cleanse and
weight loss program, which hasbeen very successful among her
patients and corporate clients,including my family,
A former Olympic level rhythmicgymnast, world champion, water
skier, and post grad assistantperforming cancer research in
(00:43):
immunology, Dr. Grace hasintimate knowledge of how the
body can function at its bestfrom the cellular level on up to
full body systems integrationand repair. While educating on
the effectiveness of alternativecare and Integrative Medicine.
Dr. Grace is adamant aboutalways being armed with the most
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current high tech medicalequipment and scientifically
valid modern health solutions.
From cold laser therapy foraccelerated tissue repair and
pain management to anti agingsolutions with cellular
detoxification, hyperbaricoxygen therapy, functional blood
panel analysis, appliedkinesiology, body composition
(01:30):
analysis, and meditation andvisualization techniques. Dr.
Grace integrates select toolsfor the most effective
individual outcomes andconsistent clinical results.
As a current member of theAmerican Academy of private
(01:50):
physicians, you may find herworking in her clinical setting,
backstage in a VIP Green Room,private home, or on a corporate
campus designing corporatewellness programs. Her life as
an elite athlete merged withgeeky scientist, and this combo
has brought her to live and workin the world of high powered
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executives, entertainers,athletes, gifted practitioners,
and innovative thinkers who arehaving a positive impact on our
people and our planet. Current,she sees patients in the third
ward in Milwaukee, and is thefounder and CEO of her health
tech startup Food FiXR, which isgaining massive momentum. Dr.
(02:38):
Grace is the host of the highlypopular Uncommon Medicine
podcast, where you'll findanother collaborative podcast
with yours truly. Thank you, Dr.
Grace for being here. It's sucha pleasure to talk with you.
Grace Hameister (02:55):
I am absolutely honored to be not only of
service to you, but also toreceive any accolades that you
send in my direction... for allof the things that you've
accomplished in your career.
It's truly an honor to be here.
Jessica Ollenburg (03:09):
Oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much, and
right back at ya. And we metsharing our dedication for our
craft. We met as a result of acorporate wellness panel that
HRS had sponsored, and yourdedication to research and your
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energy about it. It wasn't justyour know how, but it was the
passion and your ability tochange minds and create impact
that really resonated with me.
And we've been friends since,and you've made a great deal of
impact in our personal lives aswell.
Grace Hameister (03:53):
Yes, I'm just blown away with how much you
guys have really been able totake the information I gave you
and just completely change yourhealth and your mindset. And
it's just, it's an honor towatch that, seriously. Like
that's, that's what still makesmy, you know, the hairs on the
back of my neck stand up --whenyou can't unsee the things that
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you do to help people. You can'tunsee that, you know, and, and
it's because of that, that itgives me the energy and the
drive to keep going and do evenmore.
Jessica Ollenburg (04:25):
I couldn't agree more. That's exactly how I
feel about my work when I seethat impact-- when I see how it
has improved lives. when it hasimproved people's mindset. Any
kind of positive impact is sorewarding, and it really is
fuel.
Grace Hameister (04:45):
And it's really cool. You know, you give that
one person a little access tothis kind of understanding and
it ripples out into the universeand creates change all along the
way. So we're not stoppinganytime soon.
Jessica Ollenburg (04:57):
No, we're not. We're gonna keep going!
Can you share one or two of yourfavorite stories or light bulb
moments created in corporatewellness?
Grace Hameister (05:10):
Favorite stories in corporate wellness...
I would say the moment that theCEO comes into agreement and
alignment with being treated,you know, there's one thing when
you're actually looking at,yeah, the metrics of how this is
helping your, your workforce,and, you know, for every dollar
spent, you're going to have anROI of at least $3 - $4, right.
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But it's another when you havethe leaders in charge in your
hands, you know, as, as achiropractor, as a doctor,
integrative medicine, physician,food specialists, all the things
that I do, you know, the, one ofthe coolest experiences ever was
working with the Anaheim DucksC-suite...
Jessica Ollenburg (05:53):
Okay!
Grace Hameister (05:53):
...the guys that write the checks for the
Ducks
Jessica Ollenburg (05:57):
Sure!
Grace Hameister (05:58):
... and the CEO and the VP of Operations, I
would go up into their officesand adjust them and take care of
them, and, you know, and work ontheir bodies, so that they could
be available to lead the team.
And, the kinds of stories that Iget to hear in those situations,
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you know, there's a certainlevel of vulnerability... that
and trust that these guys aregiving me because, you know, if
there's a doctor-patientrelationship there, I'm very,
very adamant about protectingthe privacy and the integrity of
that relationship. That's one ofmy superpowers working with the
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C suite in particular,
Jessica Ollenburg (06:45):
Sure...
Grace Hameister (06:45):
... and high profiles and any patient that I
have, basically. But the onesthat are really, really powerful
in the world, like there's,there's people bombarding them
at all points in time. The lastthing they need is to have some
vulnerable health related issueleak out into the press, there's
not, you know, something that'ssaid, but it's just, it's really
awesome to be able to meetpeople as people. No matter what
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position they are, we are stillpeople, right?
Jessica Ollenburg (07:15):
absolutely
Grace Hameister (07:16):
Transcend that into the corporate wellness
experience. And, and to, youknow, to pluck that high profile
CEO out of his space for asecond and give him a moment to
just breathe in... that's whenshe can be that much more
powerful, and back out the door.
So I think that would be one ofmy favorite kind of perspectives
and stories of the of thecorporate wellness world.
Jessica Ollenburg (07:40):
I love that.
And that's so importantmessaging for today. Because if
you don't have top downalignment, if you don't have
that culture, spread and alignedthroughout your organization,
whatever your initiative is notgoing to succeed as it would if
you had that top down leadershipby example. And the definition
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of culture, wellness, championof the human spirit, those are
all important demonstrationsright now for leaders.
Grace Hameister (08:14):
Yeah, yeah...
exactly! And, and the mindspace, and the ability to have
the impact on your peoplebecause you're taking care of
yourself first, right? There'snot one CEO, you can tell me,
that if they're not involvedwith enough fitness, enough
food, and enough meditation andstress relieving activities...
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no one is leading anybody!They're just leading us down the
drain?
Jessica Ollenburg (08:43):
Or maybe you are leading but like you said,
you're leading into down thedrain or into a brick wall.
Grace Hameister (08:49):
Okay, yeah, certainly Yeah, exactly. You
know? So I think that a reallyimportant thing to remember is,
you know, just like RuPaul says,"If can't love yourself, honey,
how ya gonna love somebodyelse." And that that's
important. Even for the businessworld. It's very important.
Remember these things.
Jessica Ollenburg (09:07):
It is so true. And it's so important for
all of us to remember, you can'tpour from an empty cup, and
simple airplane technology --put the air mask on yourself
before helping another. We knowthis. We don't always do it.
Sometimes we get so caught up inthe priorities and demands and
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challenges and risks of the day,that we lose sight of this
because we put ourselves last bynature, and to have constant
reminders and something to keepyou actively and proactively
doing the things that yousuggest is really important. So
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to have someone like you who wecan have that messaging from is
so important. I'm so excitedabout Food FiXR as well.
Grace Hameister (10:03):
Thank you.
Yeah,
Jessica Ollenburg (10:04):
I want to hear about Food FiXR. We, John
and I, worked with you for ourown health. And, you know, I've
been practicing yoga since I was12. Our family has always been
on top of "what is the lightbulb du jour fitness buzzword?"
Grace Hameister (10:28):
(Laughter)
Jessica Ollenburg (10:28):
... trying it on seeing if it fits, because
we're all different, right. Butall these different ideas, some
of them work for most people andand all of them probably work
for someone so try them on.
Grace Hameister (10:40):
Right.
Jessica Ollenburg (10:41):
But when we met you and started working more
dedicatedly with you, you reallycustomized the approach, helped,
and really helped us figure outhow to be more true to our own
unique needs... the Eluviescleanse, we still stream our own
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soda, we love that Kevita, orwe've got the Rumblex.
Grace Hameister (11:08):
Nice!!
Jessica Ollenburg (11:09):
...all the things, all the things and it
just, it's been wonderful tofind something that works for
you. And thank you for bringingthat to us.
Grace Hameister (11:19):
And well, thank you for telling me that and just
know that, you know, the wholepurpose of my approach to
helping people is you gottalisten. You know, that's, that's
one of the things that manyphysicians are so... you know...
gagged with... they literallyhave hands around their throats
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dealing with the insuranceindustry. And, you know, getting
tests done that are onlyapproved by what the insurance
company tells you can do... notwhat the other like 1000s of
tests that we can do to find outwhat your body is trying to tell
us. There's so much more that'sout there that you know, we're
literally being silenced aboutand, and the only way to truly
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get to a person's unique needsis to listen to them not only
physiologically andbiologically, but also just
listen, like if you're tellingme...
well, then it's like that oldjoke, you know, Doctor hurts
when I drink my tea (12:19):
Well, take out the spoon. Right? (laughter)
don't drink the tea with a spoonin it like that. So it's very
important to, you know, to makesure that for as much as our
bodies are so very, verysimilar, they're also very, very
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different. And a lot of thedifference comes from our
thoughts, and our habits, andhabits and thoughts that we
don't even know that wehabitually think about. That's
the real kicker right there.
That said underlying thing thatyou didn't even know the story
you were telling yourself foryears on end, that isn't your
true essence. It's not where youreally truly live, it's just
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this like undertone of ofbullsh*t, you've been telling
yourself for the longest timeand until you can give yourself
tools to to be able to get pastthose and, and and transmute
them and dissolve them andreally realize how much health
you have access to, how muchlove you have access to, how
much excellence you have accessto, and energy and all these
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other things because you'redoing what you've been intended
to do. We're put on this planetto be excellent and to have an
impact on people's lives, not tojust swim in this flurry of, of
despair, you know. So, you haveto have those thoughts and those
actions to to help to, to bringthat to light. And to go back
to, you know, your yourillumination of Food FiXR,
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that's kind of why I wanted tocreate this business in the
first place. You know, peopleare just drowning in information
that is so depleted of truth andso difficult to find. And, you
know, even I as a physician andyou know, now you've had this
experience. You even told me atfirst "We eat really well" and I
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said "Well, I'll see..."(laughter)
Jessica Ollenburg (14:17):
Those comments were hysterical
(laughter)the food diary comes back "Oh,
no! Oh, sh*t." (laughter).
Grace Hameister (14:30):
The better one is like, um, I have some
suggestions. You actually didgreat, really great, but that's
just a thing. Like, you know,someone, I had a client for
example, who you know, he had aheart attack, he had a stent, he
had all these all these problemsand his doctor gave him the, you
know, the so very informative,you need to lose weight. Well,
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no sh*t, you know. So, I mean,it doesn't give any sort of
direction. So it's like herejust try doing calorie
restriction and improve yourdiet. So, so my client did and
he you know, and he basicallyended up he was eating the
things that he would normallyeat but you know, still honestly
like gained another five pounds.
So he was just thinking, What doI do? I don't get it, I don't
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understand and and so you canhave somebody that's, that's
totally okay go and get someprobiotics so they get some some
Dannon yogurt, and then theynever look at the ingredient
list to see that one of thefirst ingredients on there is
corn syrup, why it shouldn't becorn syrup is what's in Coca
Cola. Why? It doesn't, itdoesn't need to be there. And if
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you don't know what to look for,it's those little insidious
things like that, that increaseyour insulin that increase your
your blood sugar that createsfat in your body and and creates
cortisol to raise in your body.
So you can't get rid of thefatty move from want to because
the stress hormone won't let itgo away. Right. So that's where
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Food FiXR comes from. It's asingle evidence based place for
people to go to, that helps youfind the right foods to help
your body heal from yourcondition, whatever that
condition may be. And it's notgoing down the rabbit hole of
Google, of you know, what shouldI do? Or or Dr. Google, which is
my favorite when people come tothe office and tell me what they
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you know what I should knowabout what's on the internet?
Jessica Ollenburg (16:21):
(Laughter)
Grace Hameister (16:21):
And I'm like, How about since you're here in
my office? How about I tell youabout the research and studies
that are really something thatkind of based off of, and we can
go from there. You know, I didcancer research in immunology, I
know a couple things aboutscience. Let's just give me give
me a week that if I'm wrong fromGoogle, then we can talk. But
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yeah, that's that's the premisebehind food fix, are you giving
us your condition, and ouralgorithm gives you an actual
grocery store list, so that youknow exactly what foods to get
at the grocery store to helpyour body heal from your
condition, and then access towhat stores have it and you can
purchase it to the app.
Jessica Ollenburg (17:02):
And I love that the idea of it being
individualized, it's soimportant where we are learning
there are so many studies thatshow that a certain diet and a
certain nutritional pattern willwork better for one human being
than another. And yet, there aresome common threads, such as
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just looking out for corn andcorn products, as you've taught
us, which really has been very,very helpful. And the other
items, so many of them you'vebeen able to target. And I
imagine that's what's beingdelivered through Food FiXR. And
where is Food FiXR at thisstage? It's gotten some really,
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really good showcasing recently.
Tell us about that.
Grace Hameister (17:51):
Yeah, we've got some really great momentum, we
are in pre MVP status, whichmeans that we're still designing
and building the actual code forthe for the tech to work. I've
been doing this as a doctor forover 15 to 20 years. So I know
it works, right? This isn'tsomething I'm just making up.
We're actually I've just gottento the limits of what my human
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self can do. And now I need tohave the technology to expand it
out into the world so I can havea greater impact. So that's what
the that's why we're doing thetechnology version of it. Sure.
We have... I've gotten the$10,000 grant from the local
Milwaukee community, the For-Min MKE Tech Hub
Jessica Ollenburg (18:30):
Nice!
Grace Hameister (18:32):
Yeah! We won second place at prize tech
competition last summer for$2,500. And we were just flown
out to South by Southwest inAustin, because I made it into
the Elite Eight through ourpitch competition. There are
eight states in the Midwest thatwere represented there. And I
was representing Wisconsin... arunner up with that.
Jessica Ollenburg (18:56):
Fantastic! Go Wisconsin! Thanks for
representing.
Grace Hameister (19:03):
(Laughter) That, I did. Thank you. And we
did a great job. And as of thisweek, the biggest news that we
have is our actual build out isin progress, meaning we've
partnered with a company calledSuggestic. They've worked with
Amway, they've worked withUnited Healthcare. Companies
under their tech development andbusiness development have
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started to raise monies inrevenue up to $250,000 a month,
an hour now $2 million a monthcompanies and so we are
definitely on track for being inthat same category. We are still
working to get our fundingtogether to you know, we are
we're talking to angelinvestors, any kind of investors
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who are looking to be part ofour preseed process. We've
already bootstrapped $30,000.
And now that we have Suggesticon the line, we're looking to
gain our revenue within thefirst four months. So, we're
looking to raise funds, and ifanyone can connect us with
someone who's interested in thepreseed and angel funding
direction, we'd be more thanhappy to connect and talk about
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that.
Jessica Ollenburg (20:11):
That that's fantastic. That's really, really
exciting, Dr. Grace! And listento that, listeners... if anybody
out there wants to invest, we'llbe giving up that contact
information in a little while aswell.
Grace Hameister (20:24):
We have, we are now like we have ...
Jessica Ollenburg (20:26):
Shameless plug! (Laughter)
Grace Hameister (20:28):
Exactly! (Laughter) shameless plug. And,
and we are a win win situation.
I mean, literally, we are with acompany already... two of them,
actually. One of them was a $5million company and the other
one has created $2 millioncompanies, you know, so we're in
the hands of the right peoplethe right way with the right
messaging that's getting thisout to people that help them
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with their health, and improvethe quality of our food and this
planet. So anyone that wants tohave an impact right now is the
time to get in contact with us,because we're definitely ...
we're not ... we're notstopping. This is something that
needs to be done. And it'sdefinitely needed in the in the
in the market. I mean, just thislast couple of weeks, the White
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House had yet another Symposiumon the strategy of hunger,
nutrition and, and health in ourcountry looking at diet related
diseases. And they put out a 44page document describing some of
the things they want to do tostart having an impact on
reducing diet related diseaseand Food FiXR has solutions for
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four of the five columns.
Jessica Ollenburg (21:35):
That's wonderful... exciting...
Grace Hameister (21:36):
So we are positioned to spearhead
policy and public health. Andwe're doing it right now.
Jessica Ollenburg (21:44):
Fantastic.
And I know you you won't stopit'll, it'll get done. That's
fantastic news. I want to talk alittle bit about functional
medicine and your favoritegizmos and doohickeys.
Grace Hameister (22:05):
I love that. I love gizmos and doohickeys
(laughter)
Jessica Ollenburg (22:08):
gizmos and doohickeys. Let's talk 'em...
Grace Hameister (22:11):
well, this is actually the whole premise
behind my podcast (un)CommonMedicine, because I have the
"un" in brackets because whileit's really very common to me,
it's still widely unknown tomost people. So I love that
you're bringing this up becausethere's so many things out there
that are scientifically validand have creating change in
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people's lives that most peopledon't even know about. And and
you know what? We're not mostlyjust a functional medicine
doctor, I'm my umbrella and netis widely cast, you know? So
we're a lot ...
Jessica Ollenburg (22:44):
It's very integrative!
Grace Hameister (22:46):
Yes, it's very integrative. Exactly. I'm much
more in that category. So Ispecialize in high tech
therapeutic devices, things likecold laser therapy, and
hyperbaric oxygen therapy, andozone therapy. And I've recently
been geeking out on methyleneblue and nitric oxide. And
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there's all kinds of, you know,what... what they say in the biz
now is Bio Hacks. It's what I'vebeen at the forefront of
trailblazing for the last, youknow, 15-20 years of my career.
So I think those would be myfavorites to geek out on a
little bit -- cold laser,hyperbarics, ozone therapy. Like
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I said, the methylene blue andnitric oxide in particular,
another really great one B3bands that help to naturally
increase nitric oxide in yourbody as well as increasing
testosterone naturally. Sothere's and that's just by
exercising wearing blood flowresistance training bands, I
mean, there's just so much thatthe body is capable of doing if
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you give it give it little toolsand tricks, and those are some
of my favorites.
Jessica Ollenburg (23:57):
Thank you for that. I love those topics. And
was it the cold laser therapythat we worked together with? I
really enjoyed that. The sciencegeek in me really loved that as
well.
Grace Hameister (24:12):
I know I know it's so profound to use,
especially when you when you cancouple it with the applied
kinesiology you know you do themuscle testing you do you find
out where the neurology isbroken down a little bit not not
working as well as it can. Andyou see that instant muscle
reaction instant pain relief,you see that? And again, you
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can't unsee that, you know andthere's there's a level of
competence I have, being able totreat people when I know that my
my technology is always workingin my favor. And so it was my
intention. That's the other bigthing. You know what I'm working
on, you're not just shining andlaser light on him like hey,
good luck with that. We'll justlet the technology work for it.
No, there's a lot of thoughtbehind exactly what nerve roots
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we're looking at with cranialnerves. We're looking at the
past pathways that these gothrough and the very intricate
physiological responses andbiological responses. And it's,
there's a lot going on behind usthat laser being shined on you,
however, when you have thetraining and excellent
understanding of how they work,and the impact you can have is
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so amazing, and it's sofulfilling for me.
Jessica Ollenburg (25:21):
And you have a style of really explaining
what you're doing. So it's notjust that you listen, and
customize and tailor and adapt.
But you will also do a reallygood job of explaining and I
wish we had more of that, I'dlike for that to be an example
for more practitioners.
Grace Hameister (25:47):
Yeah, I hear that, you know, it's, it's a
tough line to walk to, you know,I've, I've been adamant about
that my entire career, you know,some guys get into the office,
and they just, they want thenumbers, you know, because
obviously, more numbers meansmore money, and I get that too,
money hasn't always been mydriving factor should be a
little bit more, it is helpful.
(Laughter) When they say moneycan't buy you happiness. Yeah.
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But you know, a lot of us,especially doctors that are MDs
in the hospital systems andstuff, you just... you're given
five minutes, you know? Andyou're not given the flexibility
and the availability of your,the true essence of your
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education and, and that to me,I've always thought was a
disservice. I couldn't have my,I couldn't see a patient
standing in front of me, and notbe 100% available, to help them
to truly be a steward of theirown health. You know, my whole
purpose in, in, in helpingpeople and and being a doctor
(26:57):
is, I don't want to see you inmy office all the time. You
know, right?
Jessica Ollenburg (27:03):
Right!
Grace Hameister (27:03):
I want to see you out there enjoying your
life. I mean, granted, when youare in my office, I have
reverence and respect, and I'mgrateful, honestly. But is not
my purpose to see people threetimes a week for the rest of
your life. You know, I don't, Idon't operate like that. And I
feel that maintenance care is iscritical. You need to get worked
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on I need every three weeks Iget adjusted, I have to smile,
I'm using my body as much as Ido, you know, the more active
you are the if you're an eliteathlete, you need to see me more
Yes. But I don't want themindset of you, depending on me
for your health care, you needto be the steward of your own
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choices. And so the more I canfuel your brain and your body
with the access to healthychoices, and solutions, the more
you can be having an optimalexperience rather than, you
know, an act of what I say isproactive rather than reactive
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experience, right? Yes, that'svery important to me.
Jessica Ollenburg (28:13):
Well, and being proactive, is it's always
easier to fix something ifyou've been proactive than to
wait until you're at the pointof being reactive. And I just
love what you said about being apractitioner and what your goals
are. I so resonate with that! Icherish long standing lifetime
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relationships with clients. ButI don't want them to depend upon
me every day. My... I love itwhen the light bulb moment
happens when I've created, setupa new policy or perspective,
technology, some type of changemanagement, given them the keys
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to now... as you said... selfsteward... but to allow them to
implement it and now contact youfor next level or "Well, this is
weird... I haven't seen thisbefore.... Not routine yet. What
do I do?" Right? To be on callbut to watch them actually
increase and transform their owncapabilities rather than to
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become dependent upon you. Andand obviously as practitioners
not not every health casedoesn't require ongoing
maintenance, many of them do.
Grace Hameister (29:36):
Exactly!
Jessica Ollenburg (29:36):
If somebody can be brought to a point where
they can help themselves, beproactive and avoid the health
problems. Why wouldn't you wantto facilitate that as a
practitioner, and you do? Thankyou for that.
Grace Hameister (29:52):
Thank you.
Yeah, I take that veryseriously. And thank you, Jess,
that means a lot. I do. And, youknow, I think it's all about
access to information. You know,like Maya Angelou says, when you
know better, you do better. Andso I make it my mission to give
people as much information as Ican, so that they can do better.
And then the stuff that theycan't do. That's what I'm here
for. You know, that's exactlywhy I'm here.
Jessica Ollenburg (30:14):
Yes. World Champion water skier and
rhythmic gymnastics competitorin the United States Olympic
Training Center. Tell us aboutthat.
Grace Hameister (30:28):
Yeah, that's that's how I grew up. I was the
first Olympic level rhythmicgymnasts in our state of
Wisconsin. First one ever wantsto, I've got pictures of me on
the podium, and I'm the only oneon number one because no one
else was at the same elite levelas me. And so I didn't have
anybody competing against Iwould just I would just win. And
then I would go to Nationals andregionals. And that's, that's
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how I made it into OlympicTraining Center, you qualify to
go there. So I earned my spaceto be able to go to the OTC in
Colorado Springs, Colorado. Andin fact, that's where I got my
first first kind of experienceof that... of the fact that food
is more than just something youdo at dinnertime. That it's
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actually something that helpsthe athlete. It helps depending
on how you eat, you can be abetter performer, a better
competitor, you can heal faster,all this stuff. And we learned
that at the OTC when I was 12years old. And they told us in
10 years from now, 5% of thefoods we eat haven't even been
invented yet. And that blew mymind. In 10 years from now, the
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eating 5% of my food hasn't eventhat doesn't exist right now.
You know, like, this is likeBack to the Future kind of
stuff. And that's when the moviewas out. But by the way, that
was more like what is happening.
It's crazy. But it's true. Ifyou look at all the power bars
and the different kinds of waterand the cereals, and now you
know all the stuff that's outnow, if you don't know what
you're looking at, you canreally be doing damage to your
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body just because it's new ortrendy. Right. So the Olympic
Training Center was an amazingexperience for me. I also met
other Olympians when I was therelike Carl Lewis, which blew my
mind as a 12 year old kidmeeting an Olympian like that.
That was an amazing story. Iactually got lost on the campus.
It was right after lunch, I gotlost. And I was just terrified.
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Because if you don't if you showup late and you have to run a
mile or do some sort of fieldsomething, and I'm like, I hate
running, so I don't want to dothat. And so I was obviously
looking very nervous. And inthis this gentleman on a bicycle
pulls, you know, like comes upbrings bike over to where I am.
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So I'm like on the side of thejust looking around. And he's
like, "Hey, are you okay?" AndI'm like "I'm lost," and then I
realized who he was. It was Carland he had like Gumby hair cut
at the time, you know? And, andI just looked at him and I'm
like, "I'm really lost." And heasked me what sport are you in?
I told him and told him where Ineeded to be. He's like, Oh,
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okay, it's that building rightover there. And he's like, okay,
so go go run. And I saw Istarted running, turn back and
like "Thanks Carl Lewis. I'mgonna run!"
Jessica Ollenburg (33:13):
(Laughter)
Grace Hameister (33:13):
It's experiences like that, that I've
had like, over and over andagain by being an athlete. And,
then the waterskiing thing wasjust a bizarre fluke. I was on
a, on an amateur team. It waslike 18 or 19 years old, and I
had joined the team with myboyfriend. The first my first
boyfriend he was he was huge andwaterskiing and, and show
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skiing. That's what I did waswater ski show skiing. So with
my gymnastics background, and myability to climb like a monkey,
I was really good with doing thepyramids and all the things that
I had to do. So I ended upgetting discovered on on the ski
team that we were on because wehad over, you know, we would do
pyramids with over 30 peoplebehind one boat.
Jessica Ollenburg (33:53):
Oh, wow!
Grace Hameister (33:54):
yeah, and competed in nationals. And that
was broadcast on ESPN, you know.
So I got discovered there andthen got my first job working at
SeaWorld in San Diego, CypressGardens in Florida, and won the
world championships in '93 doingthat, so my geeky scientist and
my elite athlete merged tobecome Dr. Grace and that's
that's how I got the inspirationto do all the things that I do
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now.
Jessica Ollenburg (34:17):
I love that journey. And it all comes
together and I'm sure you callforth all of it.
Grace Hameister (34:24):
I've seen more in my the first 20 years of my
life and most people see intheir entire life. You know, it
is crazy now and now I'm like 30more years and on top of that,
because I've got stories fordays and I'm so grateful every
experience that I've had, youknow, good and bad, honestly
have led me to a really peacefuland expansive place that I'm in
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now and I'm really grateful forthat.
Jessica Ollenburg (34:47):
That's so important to hear and so
inspiring. Peace.
Grace Hameister (34:52):
Right?
Jessica Ollenburg (34:54):
Yes, peace.
Speaking of that, here is aquestion for all the Zenquesting
leaders out there. And we'vewe've certainly learned, and you
and I have have discussed somany times that and we discussed
in this program, how we need toactively refuel our tanks as
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humans before those tanks rundry, you can't pour from an
empty cup. And more than everright now, it's it's important
to actively take steps for yourmental health. We call it
Zenquesting. Dr. Grace, how doYOU zen? And to what extent is
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Captain involved in that?
Grace Hameister (35:42):
Major?
Jessica Ollenburg (35:43):
Oh, Major! To what extent is Major involved in
that? (Laughter)
Grace Hameister (35:47):
He's, he's more elevated. Professor Major
Murdoch, my puppy. Yes, I lovethat you brought him into this!
So obviously, yes, he's a hugeportion of my, my Zen and sanity
and consistency. But I would saythe first place that I would
start, my personal Zen is I haveto have to have to have to
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meditate. And it's not onlymeditating, it's active
meditation, that connectsdirectly with higher
intelligence, my higher mind,moving my energy from grounding
myself to cosmic energy, gettingconnected to God, source
universe, all that is, and beinggrounded at the same time. And
letting that energy flow istechnique that I've learned from
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practitioners like JeffreyAllen, and Jose Silva, and Joe
Dispenza. And, oh, God, so manyReverend Michael Beckwith
getting on to Agave every Sundayand reconnecting with my spirit,
my soul. But using the toolsthat the technology tools of
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spirituality in a consistentbasis, for me is the only way
that I can operate. It keeps myenergy up, it keeps my mental
state from going into a spiral,you know, when you're looking to
create something and you're justnot quite seeing it happening
yet. You're like, what elseshould I do? Like, sometimes
it's not up for you to dosometimes it's up to what you
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need to do is just go take anap, and let the universe do
what you've already asked it todo. And just chill out, you
know. So my Zen starts and endswith my spiritual practices,
several of them and thenintegrated with that is mind and
body. It has to be both, youcan't do one or the other. You
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can't be you know, an Olympiandoing fitness and not balancing
out the meditation and thebreathing and turning down the,
the the self chatter and selftalk that that isn't serving
your purpose, right. So I haveto do things that keep me
flexible, I love Pilates, I haveto eat right, there's zero
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compromise in my food choices,do I go out and do some silly
things sometimes like gettingfries or actually eating pizza
with gluten in it? Yes. But thenagain, I'll take three or four
days and cleanse myself and youknow, and get back on track
again. But it's important to methat I have my water first thing
in the morning, that I have myjournaling and that I set the
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intention for the day andvisualize and, and run my energy
and make sure I'm not blockedanywhere or feeling excessive
energies that are distracting mefrom being able to be of service
to myself and all those I touch.
And now that I'm stepping intothe CEO role, you know, of a
tech company, being a leader,this is the culture that I'm
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creating. This is the kind ofcompany that Food FiXR is. We
are not going to be, you know,anything but in alignment with
the earth, with repairing toxiccrap that we've been seeing just
completely override our naturaltendencies. I mean, the kinds of
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of manufactured foods we'reeating now are... there's zero
help for your body by eatingthose, you know, and, and .. So,
the company that Food FiXR is,the integrity of my soul and my
sole purpose, they are one ofthe same and to be in this
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blessed position to now youknow, have a platform that is
going to be able to be moreexpansive and helping people on
a bigger scale than the onesthat can just make it through my
door. I take this veryseriously, you know, so yeah, I
have to have my meditation mygood food and and of course
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Professor Major Murdoch and allthe exercise we get together...
my pup... that is very importantto me too.
Jessica Ollenburg (39:59):
And that's All such important advice. Thank
you so much. Thanks for sharingall of that. And being a good
example and bringing that intothe CEOs office. It's just
fantastic that you'll be able tobe someone who can advocate on
all angles.
Grace Hameister (40:17):
Oh, yeah, we will definitely have nap pods in
the offices. There's no doubtabout it. Because I know around
three o'clock, I'll be like,Don't bug me. (laughter) Nap
time and I'm good. And lots oflaughter if there's not lots of
laughter, forget it!
Jessica Ollenburg (40:31):
Lots of laughter!
Grace Hameister (40:32):
Yeah, you can't! This... you know, this
world can be too crazy to not besilly.
Jessica Ollenburg (40:38):
But laughter at no one's expense.
Grace Hameister (40:40):
Correct. Thank you.
Jessica Ollenburg (40:43):
It's possible. It is absolutely
possible.
Grace Hameister (40:46):
It is. I mean, it's totally. Yeah, I mean, I
couldn't I couldn't make itthrough the day without having
humor in my life, for sure. So Iappreciate that. That's
definitely going to be a core acore value to purpose as well.
We're going to be dorky andsilly. And that's what the
company is gonna do, too. So youwant to be engaged. It's
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gamified. And playing witheverything and and that's that
childlike mentality. Notchildish, childlike.
Jessica Ollenburg (41:14):
Yeah...
Grace Hameister (41:15):
Like, yeah, you're curious and cultivating
more creativity. Like that's,that's the core of our essence,
you know, so I'm excited to toexpand deeper into that.
Jessica Ollenburg (41:25):
That is exciting. I'm excited to to
follow along with you.
Grace Hameister (41:29):
Well, I'm grateful to have you having my
back because I definitely willbe calling you on some C-suite
moments. Like "Jess, I need someoperations help here. My doctor
Grace mentality has gotten asfar as I can. So I might need a
little help
Jessica Ollenburg (41:44):
on you. And I'll be right there. Thanks for
that. I've seen things you mightnot have seen yet. Exactly.
You've seen things I haven'tseen yet.
Grace Hameister (41:58):
Exactly. That's the power all
Jessica Ollenburg (42:00):
about experiences. Boredom is the
enemy.
Grace Hameister (42:06):
Yeah, I've got too much going on, be bored.
This there's too much to do inthis world. You know, and I'm
grateful for every second of it.
Jessica Ollenburg (42:15):
Lastly, I want to ask you to share with us
how business owners can reachyou.
Grace Hameister (42:21):
Oh, of course, obviously, you can get on to
Food FiXR. That's our website,F-O-O-D, F capital X capital R,
or FoodFiXR.com You can alwaysemail me and get in contact with
me through LinkedIn. I'm GraceHameister... you can find me on
LinkedIn. The (un)CommonMedicine podcast is the podcast
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we're talking about, and that'suncommonmedicine.com and any of
the social tags that you canpossibly think of Instagram,
Facebook, we've got a little bitof TikTok going on and we do
have a YouTube channel. Both ofthem are uncommonmed or
foodfixr, and you can follow uson all of those. Food FiXR is
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also on LinkedIn too. Soremember, Food FiXR does not
have an ER. It's XR becausewe're doing more tech in
augmented reality and all kindsof good things that we want to
integrate in with web 3.0 asit's growing. So, FoodFiXR.com
Jessica Ollenburg (43:20):
Thank you so much for this discussion. I've
really enjoyed it. It's been soinformative. We got our moments
of laughter, wisdom, lightbulb.
It's been wonderful. Thanks somuch for joining today.
Grace Hameister (43:34):
Absolutely my pleasure, Jess! It's always
always awesome to collaboratewith you and see you and I can't
wait to, you know, keep thatrelationship going and keep each
other in the loop as things areimproving. Good job on the
podcast. By the way, I loveseeing you in this spot.
Jessica Ollenburg (43:48):
Oh, great.
Thank you. Thanks for all thesupport. It's it's been a
wonderful journey and lots offun having good conversations
with interesting people likeyou!
Grace Hameister (44:00):
Thanks, Jess.
Thanks so much.
Jessica Ollenburg (44:02):
All right.
Thanks again.
Since 1999, Dr. Grace has been in practice
as a licensed and boardcertified doctor of chiropractic
and advanced cold laserspecialist in San Francisco and
Beverly Hills, California, andnow in Wisconsin. She has over
6000 hours of advanced classroomand clinical orthomolecular
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nutrition experience, includingher own trademarked cleanse and
weight loss program, which hasbeen very successful among her
patients and corporate clients,including my family,
A former Olympic level rhythmicgymnast, world champion, water
skier, and post grad assistantperforming cancer research in
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immunology, Dr. Grace hasintimate knowledge of how the
body can function at its bestfrom the cellular level on up to
full body systems integrationand repair. While educating on
the effectiveness of alternativecare and Integrative Medicine.
Dr. Grace is adamant aboutalways being armed with the most
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current high tech medicalequipment and scientifically
valid modern health solutions.
From cold laser therapy foraccelerated tissue repair and
pain management to anti agingsolutions with cellular
detoxification, hyperbaricoxygen therapy, functional blood
panel analysis, appliedkinesiology, body composition
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analysis, and meditation andvisualization techniques. Dr.
Grace integrates select toolsfor the most effective
individual outcomes andconsistent clinical results.
As a current member of theAmerican Academy of private
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physicians, you may find herworking in her clinical setting,
backstage in a VIP Green Room,private home, or on a corporate
campus designing corporatewellness programs. Her life as
an elite athlete merged withgeeky scientist, and this combo
has brought her to live and workin the world of high powered
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executives, entertainers,athletes, gifted practitioners,
and innovative thinkers who arehaving a positive impact on our
people and our planet. Current,she sees patients in the third
ward in Milwaukee, and is thefounder and CEO of her health
tech startup Food FiXR, which isgaining massive momentum. Dr.
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Grace is the host of the highlypopular Uncommon Medicine
podcast, where you'll findanother collaborative podcast
with yours truly. Thank you, Dr.
Grace for being here. It's sucha pleasure to talk with you.
Grace Hameister (02:55):
I am absolutely honored to be not only of
service to you, but also toreceive any accolades that you
send in my direction... for allof the things that you've
accomplished in your career.
It's truly an honor to be here.
Jessica Ollenburg (03:09):
Oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much, and
right back at ya. And we metsharing our dedication for our
craft. We met as a result of acorporate wellness panel that
HRS had sponsored, and yourdedication to research and your
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energy about it. It wasn't justyour know how, but it was the
passion and your ability tochange minds and create impact
that really resonated with me.
And we've been friends since,and you've made a great deal of
impact in our personal lives aswell.
Grace Hameister (03:53):
Yes, I'm just blown away with how much you
guys have really been able totake the information I gave you
and just completely change yourhealth and your mindset. And
it's just, it's an honor towatch that, seriously. Like
that's, that's what still makesmy, you know, the hairs on the
back of my neck stand up --whenyou can't unsee the things that
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you do to help people. You can'tunsee that, you know, and, and
it's because of that, that itgives me the energy and the
drive to keep going and do evenmore.
Jessica Ollenburg (04:25):
I couldn't agree more. That's exactly how I
feel about my work when I seethat impact-- when I see how it
has improved lives. when it hasimproved people's mindset. Any
kind of positive impact is sorewarding, and it really is
fuel.
Grace Hameister (04:45):
And it's really cool. You know, you give that
one person a little access tothis kind of understanding and
it ripples out into the universeand creates change all along the
way. So we're not stoppinganytime soon.
Jessica Ollenburg (04:57):
No, we're not. We're gonna keep going!
Can you share one or two of yourfavorite stories or light bulb
moments created in corporatewellness?
Grace Hameister (05:10):
Favorite stories in corporate wellness...
I would say the moment that theCEO comes into agreement and
alignment with being treated,you know, there's one thing when
you're actually looking at,yeah, the metrics of how this is
helping your, your workforce,and, you know, for every dollar
spent, you're going to have anROI of at least $3 - $4, right.
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But it's another when you havethe leaders in charge in your
hands, you know, as, as achiropractor, as a doctor,
integrative medicine, physician,food specialists, all the things
that I do, you know, the, one ofthe coolest experiences ever was
working with the Anaheim DucksC-suite...
Jessica Ollenburg (05:53):
Okay!
Grace Hameister (05:53):
...the guys that write the checks for the
Ducks
Jessica Ollenburg (05:57):
Sure!
Grace Hameister (05:58):
... and the CEO and the VP of Operations, I
would go up into their officesand adjust them and take care of
them, and, you know, and work ontheir bodies, so that they could
be available to lead the team.
And, the kinds of stories that Iget to hear in those situations,
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you know, there's a certainlevel of vulnerability... that
and trust that these guys aregiving me because, you know, if
there's a doctor-patientrelationship there, I'm very,
very adamant about protectingthe privacy and the integrity of
that relationship. That's one ofmy superpowers working with the
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C suite in particular,
Jessica Ollenburg (06:45):
Sure...
Grace Hameister (06:45):
... and high profiles and any patient that I
have, basically. But the onesthat are really, really powerful
in the world, like there's,there's people bombarding them
at all points in time. The lastthing they need is to have some
vulnerable health related issueleak out into the press, there's
not, you know, something that'ssaid, but it's just, it's really
awesome to be able to meetpeople as people. No matter what
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position they are, we are stillpeople, right?
Jessica Ollenburg (07:15):
absolutely
Grace Hameister (07:16):
Transcend that into the corporate wellness
experience. And, and to, youknow, to pluck that high profile
CEO out of his space for asecond and give him a moment to
just breathe in... that's whenshe can be that much more
powerful, and back out the door.
So I think that would be one ofmy favorite kind of perspectives
and stories of the of thecorporate wellness world.
Jessica Ollenburg (07:40):
I love that.
And that's so importantmessaging for today. Because if
you don't have top downalignment, if you don't have
that culture, spread and alignedthroughout your organization,
whatever your initiative is notgoing to succeed as it would if
you had that top down leadershipby example. And the definition
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of culture, wellness, championof the human spirit, those are
all important demonstrationsright now for leaders.
Grace Hameister (08:14):
Yeah, yeah...
exactly! And, and the mindspace, and the ability to have
the impact on your peoplebecause you're taking care of
yourself first, right? There'snot one CEO, you can tell me,
that if they're not involvedwith enough fitness, enough
food, and enough meditation andstress relieving activities...
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no one is leading anybody!They're just leading us down the
drain?
Jessica Ollenburg (08:43):
Or maybe you are leading but like you said,
you're leading into down thedrain or into a brick wall.
Grace Hameister (08:49):
Okay, yeah, certainly Yeah, exactly. You
know? So I think that a reallyimportant thing to remember is,
you know, just like RuPaul says,"If can't love yourself, honey,
how ya gonna love somebodyelse." And that that's
important. Even for the businessworld. It's very important.
Remember these things.
Jessica Ollenburg (09:07):
It is so true. And it's so important for
all of us to remember, you can'tpour from an empty cup, and
simple airplane technology --put the air mask on yourself
before helping another. We knowthis. We don't always do it.
Sometimes we get so caught up inthe priorities and demands and
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challenges and risks of the day,that we lose sight of this
because we put ourselves last bynature, and to have constant
reminders and something to keepyou actively and proactively
doing the things that yousuggest is really important. So
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to have someone like you who wecan have that messaging from is
so important. I'm so excitedabout Food FiXR as well.
Grace Hameister (10:03):
Thank you.
Yeah,
Jessica Ollenburg (10:04):
I want to hear about Food FiXR. We, John
and I, worked with you for ourown health. And, you know, I've
been practicing yoga since I was12. Our family has always been
on top of "what is the lightbulb du jour fitness buzzword?"
Grace Hameister (10:28):
(Laughter)
Jessica Ollenburg (10:28):
... trying it on seeing if it fits, because
we're all different, right. Butall these different ideas, some
of them work for most people andand all of them probably work
for someone so try them on.
Grace Hameister (10:40):
Right.
Jessica Ollenburg (10:41):
But when we met you and started working more
dedicatedly with you, you reallycustomized the approach, helped,
and really helped us figure outhow to be more true to our own
unique needs... the Eluviescleanse, we still stream our own
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soda, we love that Kevita, orwe've got the Rumblex.
Grace Hameister (11:08):
Nice!!
Jessica Ollenburg (11:09):
...all the things, all the things and it
just, it's been wonderful tofind something that works for
you. And thank you for bringingthat to us.
Grace Hameister (11:19):
And well, thank you for telling me that and just
know that, you know, the wholepurpose of my approach to
helping people is you gottalisten. You know, that's, that's
one of the things that manyphysicians are so... you know...
gagged with... they literallyhave hands around their throats
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dealing with the insuranceindustry. And, you know, getting
tests done that are onlyapproved by what the insurance
company tells you can do... notwhat the other like 1000s of
tests that we can do to find outwhat your body is trying to tell
us. There's so much more that'sout there that you know, we're
literally being silenced aboutand, and the only way to truly
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get to a person's unique needsis to listen to them not only
physiologically andbiologically, but also just
listen, like if you're tellingme...
well, then it's like that oldjoke, you know, Doctor hurts
when I drink my tea (12:19):
Well, take out the spoon. Right? (laughter)
don't drink the tea with a spoonin it like that. So it's very
important to, you know, to makesure that for as much as our
bodies are so very, verysimilar, they're also very, very
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different. And a lot of thedifference comes from our
thoughts, and our habits, andhabits and thoughts that we
don't even know that wehabitually think about. That's
the real kicker right there.
That said underlying thing thatyou didn't even know the story
you were telling yourself foryears on end, that isn't your
true essence. It's not where youreally truly live, it's just
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this like undertone of ofbullsh*t, you've been telling
yourself for the longest timeand until you can give yourself
tools to to be able to get pastthose and, and and transmute
them and dissolve them andreally realize how much health
you have access to, how muchlove you have access to, how
much excellence you have accessto, and energy and all these
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other things because you'redoing what you've been intended
to do. We're put on this planetto be excellent and to have an
impact on people's lives, not tojust swim in this flurry of, of
despair, you know. So, you haveto have those thoughts and those
actions to to help to, to bringthat to light. And to go back
to, you know, your yourillumination of Food FiXR,
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that's kind of why I wanted tocreate this business in the
first place. You know, peopleare just drowning in information
that is so depleted of truth andso difficult to find. And, you
know, even I as a physician andyou know, now you've had this
experience. You even told me atfirst "We eat really well" and I
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said "Well, I'll see..."(laughter)
Jessica Ollenburg (14:17):
Those comments were hysterical
(laughter)the food diary comes back "Oh,
no! Oh, sh*t." (laughter).
Grace Hameister (14:30):
The better one is like, um, I have some
suggestions. You actually didgreat, really great, but that's
just a thing. Like, you know,someone, I had a client for
example, who you know, he had aheart attack, he had a stent, he
had all these all these problemsand his doctor gave him the, you
know, the so very informative,you need to lose weight. Well,
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no sh*t, you know. So, I mean,it doesn't give any sort of
direction. So it's like herejust try doing calorie
restriction and improve yourdiet. So, so my client did and
he you know, and he basicallyended up he was eating the
things that he would normallyeat but you know, still honestly
like gained another five pounds.
So he was just thinking, What doI do? I don't get it, I don't
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understand and and so you canhave somebody that's, that's
totally okay go and get someprobiotics so they get some some
Dannon yogurt, and then theynever look at the ingredient
list to see that one of thefirst ingredients on there is
corn syrup, why it shouldn't becorn syrup is what's in Coca
Cola. Why? It doesn't, itdoesn't need to be there. And if
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you don't know what to look for,it's those little insidious
things like that, that increaseyour insulin that increase your
your blood sugar that createsfat in your body and and creates
cortisol to raise in your body.
So you can't get rid of thefatty move from want to because
the stress hormone won't let itgo away. Right. So that's where
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Food FiXR comes from. It's asingle evidence based place for
people to go to, that helps youfind the right foods to help
your body heal from yourcondition, whatever that
condition may be. And it's notgoing down the rabbit hole of
Google, of you know, what shouldI do? Or or Dr. Google, which is
my favorite when people come tothe office and tell me what they
(16:19):
you know what I should knowabout what's on the internet?
Jessica Ollenburg (16:21):
(Laughter)
Grace Hameister (16:21):
And I'm like, How about since you're here in
my office? How about I tell youabout the research and studies
that are really something thatkind of based off of, and we can
go from there. You know, I didcancer research in immunology, I
know a couple things aboutscience. Let's just give me give
me a week that if I'm wrong fromGoogle, then we can talk. But
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yeah, that's that's the premisebehind food fix, are you giving
us your condition, and ouralgorithm gives you an actual
grocery store list, so that youknow exactly what foods to get
at the grocery store to helpyour body heal from your
condition, and then access towhat stores have it and you can
purchase it to the app.
Jessica Ollenburg (17:02):
And I love that the idea of it being
individualized, it's soimportant where we are learning
there are so many studies thatshow that a certain diet and a
certain nutritional pattern willwork better for one human being
than another. And yet, there aresome common threads, such as
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just looking out for corn andcorn products, as you've taught
us, which really has been very,very helpful. And the other
items, so many of them you'vebeen able to target. And I
imagine that's what's beingdelivered through Food FiXR. And
where is Food FiXR at thisstage? It's gotten some really,
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really good showcasing recently.
Tell us about that.
Grace Hameister (17:51):
Yeah, we've got some really great momentum, we
are in pre MVP status, whichmeans that we're still designing
and building the actual code forthe for the tech to work. I've
been doing this as a doctor forover 15 to 20 years. So I know
it works, right? This isn'tsomething I'm just making up.
We're actually I've just gottento the limits of what my human
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self can do. And now I need tohave the technology to expand it
out into the world so I can havea greater impact. So that's what
the that's why we're doing thetechnology version of it. Sure.
We have... I've gotten the$10,000 grant from the local
Milwaukee community, the For-Min MKE Tech Hub
Jessica Ollenburg (18:30):
Nice!
Grace Hameister (18:32):
Yeah! We won second place at prize tech
competition last summer for$2,500. And we were just flown
out to South by Southwest inAustin, because I made it into
the Elite Eight through ourpitch competition. There are
eight states in the Midwest thatwere represented there. And I
was representing Wisconsin... arunner up with that.
Jessica Ollenburg (18:56):
Fantastic! Go Wisconsin! Thanks for
representing.
Grace Hameister (19:03):
(Laughter) That, I did. Thank you. And we
did a great job. And as of thisweek, the biggest news that we
have is our actual build out isin progress, meaning we've
partnered with a company calledSuggestic. They've worked with
Amway, they've worked withUnited Healthcare. Companies
under their tech development andbusiness development have
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started to raise monies inrevenue up to $250,000 a month,
an hour now $2 million a monthcompanies and so we are
definitely on track for being inthat same category. We are still
working to get our fundingtogether to you know, we are
we're talking to angelinvestors, any kind of investors
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who are looking to be part ofour preseed process. We've
already bootstrapped $30,000.
And now that we have Suggesticon the line, we're looking to
gain our revenue within thefirst four months. So, we're
looking to raise funds, and ifanyone can connect us with
someone who's interested in thepreseed and angel funding
direction, we'd be more thanhappy to connect and talk about
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that.
Jessica Ollenburg (20:11):
That that's fantastic. That's really, really
exciting, Dr. Grace! And listento that, listeners... if anybody
out there wants to invest, we'llbe giving up that contact
information in a little while aswell.
Grace Hameister (20:24):
We have, we are now like we have ...
Jessica Ollenburg (20:26):
Shameless plug! (Laughter)
Grace Hameister (20:28):
Exactly! (Laughter) shameless plug. And,
and we are a win win situation.
I mean, literally, we are with acompany already... two of them,
actually. One of them was a $5million company and the other
one has created $2 millioncompanies, you know, so we're in
the hands of the right peoplethe right way with the right
messaging that's getting thisout to people that help them
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with their health, and improvethe quality of our food and this
planet. So anyone that wants tohave an impact right now is the
time to get in contact with us,because we're definitely ...
we're not ... we're notstopping. This is something that
needs to be done. And it'sdefinitely needed in the in the
in the market. I mean, just thislast couple of weeks, the White
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House had yet another Symposiumon the strategy of hunger,
nutrition and, and health in ourcountry looking at diet related
diseases. And they put out a 44page document describing some of
the things they want to do tostart having an impact on
reducing diet related diseaseand Food FiXR has solutions for
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four of the five columns.
Jessica Ollenburg (21:35):
That's wonderful... exciting...
Grace Hameister (21:36):
So we are positioned to spearhead
policy and public health. Andwe're doing it right now.
Jessica Ollenburg (21:44):
Fantastic.
And I know you you won't stopit'll, it'll get done. That's
fantastic news. I want to talk alittle bit about functional
medicine and your favoritegizmos and doohickeys.
Grace Hameister (22:05):
I love that. I love gizmos and doohickeys
(laughter)
Jessica Ollenburg (22:08):
gizmos and doohickeys. Let's talk 'em...
Grace Hameister (22:11):
well, this is actually the whole premise
behind my podcast (un)CommonMedicine, because I have the
"un" in brackets because whileit's really very common to me,
it's still widely unknown tomost people. So I love that
you're bringing this up becausethere's so many things out there
that are scientifically validand have creating change in
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people's lives that most peopledon't even know about. And and
you know what? We're not mostlyjust a functional medicine
doctor, I'm my umbrella and netis widely cast, you know? So
we're a lot ...
Jessica Ollenburg (22:44):
It's very integrative!
Grace Hameister (22:46):
Yes, it's very integrative. Exactly. I'm much
more in that category. So Ispecialize in high tech
therapeutic devices, things likecold laser therapy, and
hyperbaric oxygen therapy, andozone therapy. And I've recently
been geeking out on methyleneblue and nitric oxide. And
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there's all kinds of, you know,what... what they say in the biz
now is Bio Hacks. It's what I'vebeen at the forefront of
trailblazing for the last, youknow, 15-20 years of my career.
So I think those would be myfavorites to geek out on a
little bit -- cold laser,hyperbarics, ozone therapy. Like
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I said, the methylene blue andnitric oxide in particular,
another really great one B3bands that help to naturally
increase nitric oxide in yourbody as well as increasing
testosterone naturally. Sothere's and that's just by
exercising wearing blood flowresistance training bands, I
mean, there's just so much thatthe body is capable of doing if
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you give it give it little toolsand tricks, and those are some
of my favorites.
Jessica Ollenburg (23:57):
Thank you for that. I love those topics. And
was it the cold laser therapythat we worked together with? I
really enjoyed that. The sciencegeek in me really loved that as
well.
Grace Hameister (24:12):
I know I know it's so profound to use,
especially when you when you cancouple it with the applied
kinesiology you know you do themuscle testing you do you find
out where the neurology isbroken down a little bit not not
working as well as it can. Andyou see that instant muscle
reaction instant pain relief,you see that? And again, you
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can't unsee that, you know andthere's there's a level of
competence I have, being able totreat people when I know that my
my technology is always workingin my favor. And so it was my
intention. That's the other bigthing. You know what I'm working
on, you're not just shining andlaser light on him like hey,
good luck with that. We'll justlet the technology work for it.
No, there's a lot of thoughtbehind exactly what nerve roots
(24:57):
we're looking at with cranialnerves. We're looking at the
past pathways that these gothrough and the very intricate
physiological responses andbiological responses. And it's,
there's a lot going on behind usthat laser being shined on you,
however, when you have thetraining and excellent
understanding of how they work,and the impact you can have is
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so amazing, and it's sofulfilling for me.
Jessica Ollenburg (25:21):
And you have a style of really explaining
what you're doing. So it's notjust that you listen, and
customize and tailor and adapt.
But you will also do a reallygood job of explaining and I
wish we had more of that, I'dlike for that to be an example
for more practitioners.
Grace Hameister (25:47):
Yeah, I hear that, you know, it's, it's a
tough line to walk to, you know,I've, I've been adamant about
that my entire career, you know,some guys get into the office,
and they just, they want thenumbers, you know, because
obviously, more numbers meansmore money, and I get that too,
money hasn't always been mydriving factor should be a
little bit more, it is helpful.
(Laughter) When they say moneycan't buy you happiness. Yeah.
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But you know, a lot of us,especially doctors that are MDs
in the hospital systems andstuff, you just... you're given
five minutes, you know? Andyou're not given the flexibility
and the availability of your,the true essence of your
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education and, and that to me,I've always thought was a
disservice. I couldn't have my,I couldn't see a patient
standing in front of me, and notbe 100% available, to help them
to truly be a steward of theirown health. You know, my whole
purpose in, in, in helpingpeople and and being a doctor
(26:57):
is, I don't want to see you inmy office all the time. You
know, right?
Jessica Ollenburg (27:03):
Right!
Grace Hameister (27:03):
I want to see you out there enjoying your
life. I mean, granted, when youare in my office, I have
reverence and respect, and I'mgrateful, honestly. But is not
my purpose to see people threetimes a week for the rest of
your life. You know, I don't, Idon't operate like that. And I
feel that maintenance care is iscritical. You need to get worked
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on I need every three weeks Iget adjusted, I have to smile,
I'm using my body as much as Ido, you know, the more active
you are the if you're an eliteathlete, you need to see me more
Yes. But I don't want themindset of you, depending on me
for your health care, you needto be the steward of your own
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choices. And so the more I canfuel your brain and your body
with the access to healthychoices, and solutions, the more
you can be having an optimalexperience rather than, you
know, an act of what I say isproactive rather than reactive
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experience, right? Yes, that'svery important to me.
Jessica Ollenburg (28:13):
Well, and being proactive, is it's always
easier to fix something ifyou've been proactive than to
wait until you're at the pointof being reactive. And I just
love what you said about being apractitioner and what your goals
are. I so resonate with that! Icherish long standing lifetime
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relationships with clients. ButI don't want them to depend upon
me every day. My... I love itwhen the light bulb moment
happens when I've created, setupa new policy or perspective,
technology, some type of changemanagement, given them the keys
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to now... as you said... selfsteward... but to allow them to
implement it and now contact youfor next level or "Well, this is
weird... I haven't seen thisbefore.... Not routine yet. What
do I do?" Right? To be on callbut to watch them actually
increase and transform their owncapabilities rather than to
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become dependent upon you. Andand obviously as practitioners
not not every health casedoesn't require ongoing
maintenance, many of them do.
Grace Hameister (29:36):
Exactly!
Jessica Ollenburg (29:36):
If somebody can be brought to a point where
they can help themselves, beproactive and avoid the health
problems. Why wouldn't you wantto facilitate that as a
practitioner, and you do? Thankyou for that.
Grace Hameister (29:52):
Thank you.
Yeah, I take that veryseriously. And thank you, Jess,
that means a lot. I do. And, youknow, I think it's all about
access to information. You know,like Maya Angelou says, when you
know better, you do better. Andso I make it my mission to give
people as much information as Ican, so that they can do better.
And then the stuff that theycan't do. That's what I'm here
for. You know, that's exactlywhy I'm here.
Jessica Ollenburg (30:14):
Yes. World Champion water skier and
rhythmic gymnastics competitorin the United States Olympic
Training Center. Tell us aboutthat.
Grace Hameister (30:28):
Yeah, that's that's how I grew up. I was the
first Olympic level rhythmicgymnasts in our state of
Wisconsin. First one ever wantsto, I've got pictures of me on
the podium, and I'm the only oneon number one because no one
else was at the same elite levelas me. And so I didn't have
anybody competing against Iwould just I would just win. And
then I would go to Nationals andregionals. And that's, that's
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how I made it into OlympicTraining Center, you qualify to
go there. So I earned my spaceto be able to go to the OTC in
Colorado Springs, Colorado. Andin fact, that's where I got my
first first kind of experienceof that... of the fact that food
is more than just something youdo at dinnertime. That it's
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actually something that helpsthe athlete. It helps depending
on how you eat, you can be abetter performer, a better
competitor, you can heal faster,all this stuff. And we learned
that at the OTC when I was 12years old. And they told us in
10 years from now, 5% of thefoods we eat haven't even been
invented yet. And that blew mymind. In 10 years from now, the
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eating 5% of my food hasn't eventhat doesn't exist right now.
You know, like, this is likeBack to the Future kind of
stuff. And that's when the moviewas out. But by the way, that
was more like what is happening.
It's crazy. But it's true. Ifyou look at all the power bars
and the different kinds of waterand the cereals, and now you
know all the stuff that's outnow, if you don't know what
you're looking at, you canreally be doing damage to your
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body just because it's new ortrendy. Right. So the Olympic
Training Center was an amazingexperience for me. I also met
other Olympians when I was therelike Carl Lewis, which blew my
mind as a 12 year old kidmeeting an Olympian like that.
That was an amazing story. Iactually got lost on the campus.
It was right after lunch, I gotlost. And I was just terrified.
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Because if you don't if you showup late and you have to run a
mile or do some sort of fieldsomething, and I'm like, I hate
running, so I don't want to dothat. And so I was obviously
looking very nervous. And inthis this gentleman on a bicycle
pulls, you know, like comes upbrings bike over to where I am.
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So I'm like on the side of thejust looking around. And he's
like, "Hey, are you okay?" AndI'm like "I'm lost," and then I
realized who he was. It was Carland he had like Gumby hair cut
at the time, you know? And, andI just looked at him and I'm
like, "I'm really lost." And heasked me what sport are you in?
I told him and told him where Ineeded to be. He's like, Oh,
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okay, it's that building rightover there. And he's like, okay,
so go go run. And I saw Istarted running, turn back and
like "Thanks Carl Lewis. I'mgonna run!"
Jessica Ollenburg (33:13):
(Laughter)
Grace Hameister (33:13):
It's experiences like that, that I've
had like, over and over andagain by being an athlete. And,
then the waterskiing thing wasjust a bizarre fluke. I was on
a, on an amateur team. It waslike 18 or 19 years old, and I
had joined the team with myboyfriend. The first my first
boyfriend he was he was huge andwaterskiing and, and show
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skiing. That's what I did waswater ski show skiing. So with
my gymnastics background, and myability to climb like a monkey,
I was really good with doing thepyramids and all the things that
I had to do. So I ended upgetting discovered on on the ski
team that we were on because wehad over, you know, we would do
pyramids with over 30 peoplebehind one boat.
Jessica Ollenburg (33:53):
Oh, wow!
Grace Hameister (33:54):
yeah, and competed in nationals. And that
was broadcast on ESPN, you know.
So I got discovered there andthen got my first job working at
SeaWorld in San Diego, CypressGardens in Florida, and won the
world championships in '93 doingthat, so my geeky scientist and
my elite athlete merged tobecome Dr. Grace and that's
that's how I got the inspirationto do all the things that I do
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now.
Jessica Ollenburg (34:17):
I love that journey. And it all comes
together and I'm sure you callforth all of it.
Grace Hameister (34:24):
I've seen more in my the first 20 years of my
life and most people see intheir entire life. You know, it
is crazy now and now I'm like 30more years and on top of that,
because I've got stories fordays and I'm so grateful every
experience that I've had, youknow, good and bad, honestly
have led me to a really peacefuland expansive place that I'm in
(34:44):
now and I'm really grateful forthat.
Jessica Ollenburg (34:47):
That's so important to hear and so
inspiring. Peace.
Grace Hameister (34:52):
Right?
Jessica Ollenburg (34:54):
Yes, peace.
Speaking of that, here is aquestion for all the Zenquesting
leaders out there. And we'vewe've certainly learned, and you
and I have have discussed somany times that and we discussed
in this program, how we need toactively refuel our tanks as
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humans before those tanks rundry, you can't pour from an
empty cup. And more than everright now, it's it's important
to actively take steps for yourmental health. We call it
Zenquesting. Dr. Grace, how doYOU zen? And to what extent is
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Captain involved in that?
Grace Hameister (35:42):
Major?
Jessica Ollenburg (35:43):
Oh, Major! To what extent is Major involved in
that? (Laughter)
Grace Hameister (35:47):
He's, he's more elevated. Professor Major
Murdoch, my puppy. Yes, I lovethat you brought him into this!
So obviously, yes, he's a hugeportion of my, my Zen and sanity
and consistency. But I would saythe first place that I would
start, my personal Zen is I haveto have to have to have to
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meditate. And it's not onlymeditating, it's active
meditation, that connectsdirectly with higher
intelligence, my higher mind,moving my energy from grounding
myself to cosmic energy, gettingconnected to God, source
universe, all that is, and beinggrounded at the same time. And
letting that energy flow istechnique that I've learned from
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practitioners like JeffreyAllen, and Jose Silva, and Joe
Dispenza. And, oh, God, so manyReverend Michael Beckwith
getting on to Agave every Sundayand reconnecting with my spirit,
my soul. But using the toolsthat the technology tools of
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spirituality in a consistentbasis, for me is the only way
that I can operate. It keeps myenergy up, it keeps my mental
state from going into a spiral,you know, when you're looking to
create something and you're justnot quite seeing it happening
yet. You're like, what elseshould I do? Like, sometimes
it's not up for you to dosometimes it's up to what you
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need to do is just go take anap, and let the universe do
what you've already asked it todo. And just chill out, you
know. So my Zen starts and endswith my spiritual practices,
several of them and thenintegrated with that is mind and
body. It has to be both, youcan't do one or the other. You
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can't be you know, an Olympiandoing fitness and not balancing
out the meditation and thebreathing and turning down the,
the the self chatter and selftalk that that isn't serving
your purpose, right. So I haveto do things that keep me
flexible, I love Pilates, I haveto eat right, there's zero
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compromise in my food choices,do I go out and do some silly
things sometimes like gettingfries or actually eating pizza
with gluten in it? Yes. But thenagain, I'll take three or four
days and cleanse myself and youknow, and get back on track
again. But it's important to methat I have my water first thing
in the morning, that I have myjournaling and that I set the
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intention for the day andvisualize and, and run my energy
and make sure I'm not blockedanywhere or feeling excessive
energies that are distracting mefrom being able to be of service
to myself and all those I touch.
And now that I'm stepping intothe CEO role, you know, of a
tech company, being a leader,this is the culture that I'm
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creating. This is the kind ofcompany that Food FiXR is. We
are not going to be, you know,anything but in alignment with
the earth, with repairing toxiccrap that we've been seeing just
completely override our naturaltendencies. I mean, the kinds of
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of manufactured foods we'reeating now are... there's zero
help for your body by eatingthose, you know, and, and .. So,
the company that Food FiXR is,the integrity of my soul and my
sole purpose, they are one ofthe same and to be in this
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blessed position to now youknow, have a platform that is
going to be able to be moreexpansive and helping people on
a bigger scale than the onesthat can just make it through my
door. I take this veryseriously, you know, so yeah, I
have to have my meditation mygood food and and of course
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Professor Major Murdoch and allthe exercise we get together...
my pup... that is very importantto me too.
Jessica Ollenburg (39:59):
And that's All such important advice. Thank
you so much. Thanks for sharingall of that. And being a good
example and bringing that intothe CEOs office. It's just
fantastic that you'll be able tobe someone who can advocate on
all angles.
Grace Hameister (40:17):
Oh, yeah, we will definitely have nap pods in
the offices. There's no doubtabout it. Because I know around
three o'clock, I'll be like,Don't bug me. (laughter) Nap
time and I'm good. And lots oflaughter if there's not lots of
laughter, forget it!
Jessica Ollenburg (40:31):
Lots of laughter!
Grace Hameister (40:32):
Yeah, you can't! This... you know, this
world can be too crazy to not besilly.
Jessica Ollenburg (40:38):
But laughter at no one's expense.
Grace Hameister (40:40):
Correct. Thank you.
Jessica Ollenburg (40:43):
It's possible. It is absolutely
possible.
Grace Hameister (40:46):
It is. I mean, it's totally. Yeah, I mean, I
couldn't I couldn't make itthrough the day without having
humor in my life, for sure. So Iappreciate that. That's
definitely going to be a core acore value to purpose as well.
We're going to be dorky andsilly. And that's what the
company is gonna do, too. So youwant to be engaged. It's
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gamified. And playing witheverything and and that's that
childlike mentality. Notchildish, childlike.
Jessica Ollenburg (41:14):
Yeah...
Grace Hameister (41:15):
Like, yeah, you're curious and cultivating
more creativity. Like that's,that's the core of our essence,
you know, so I'm excited to toexpand deeper into that.
Jessica Ollenburg (41:25):
That is exciting. I'm excited to to
follow along with you.
Grace Hameister (41:29):
Well, I'm grateful to have you having my
back because I definitely willbe calling you on some C-suite
moments. Like "Jess, I need someoperations help here. My doctor
Grace mentality has gotten asfar as I can. So I might need a
little help
Jessica Ollenburg (41:44):
on you. And I'll be right there. Thanks for
that. I've seen things you mightnot have seen yet. Exactly.
You've seen things I haven'tseen yet.
Grace Hameister (41:58):
Exactly. That's the power all
Jessica Ollenburg (42:00):
about experiences. Boredom is the
enemy.
Grace Hameister (42:06):
Yeah, I've got too much going on, be bored.
This there's too much to do inthis world. You know, and I'm
grateful for every second of it.
Jessica Ollenburg (42:15):
Lastly, I want to ask you to share with us
how business owners can reachyou.
Grace Hameister (42:21):
Oh, of course, obviously, you can get on to
Food FiXR. That's our website,F-O-O-D, F capital X capital R,
or FoodFiXR.com You can alwaysemail me and get in contact with
me through LinkedIn. I'm GraceHameister... you can find me on
LinkedIn. The (un)CommonMedicine podcast is the podcast
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we're talking about, and that'suncommonmedicine.com and any of
the social tags that you canpossibly think of Instagram,
Facebook, we've got a little bitof TikTok going on and we do
have a YouTube channel. Both ofthem are uncommonmed or
foodfixr, and you can follow uson all of those. Food FiXR is
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also on LinkedIn too. Soremember, Food FiXR does not
have an ER. It's XR becausewe're doing more tech in
augmented reality and all kindsof good things that we want to
integrate in with web 3.0 asit's growing. So, FoodFiXR.com
Jessica Ollenburg (43:20):
Thank you so much for this discussion. I've
really enjoyed it. It's been soinformative. We got our moments
of laughter, wisdom, lightbulb.
It's been wonderful. Thanks somuch for joining today.
Grace Hameister (43:34):
Absolutely my pleasure, Jess! It's always
always awesome to collaboratewith you and see you and I can't
wait to, you know, keep thatrelationship going and keep each
other in the loop as things areimproving. Good job on the
podcast. By the way, I loveseeing you in this spot.
Jessica Ollenburg (43:48):
Oh, great.
Thank you. Thanks for all thesupport. It's it's been a
wonderful journey and lots offun having good conversations
with interesting people likeyou!
Grace Hameister (44:00):
Thanks, Jess.
Thanks so much.
Jessica Ollenburg (44:02):
All right.
Thanks again.
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