Avatar: The Last Airbender: A Certified American Anime

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
hello, what's good everybody.
It's jeff black extreme and weare back at it again with
another episode of the zonepodcast.
Today's topic is the legendaryavatar, the last airbender, and,
by the way, we're not reallygoing to talk about the live
action, like maybe in passing.
But fuck all that, we're goingto focus on the animation and,

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without further ado, let's getactive.
Oh, my fucking god, I rememberas a kid it was like I had my
ratatouille moment to where,when I was getting prepared for
this review, I felt like I wentback in time back when I was
like what, 11, 12?

(00:44):
I know, it was like middleschool when Avatar the Last
Airbender was just popping offand I was like yo, the music,
the themes, the characters, thefights, my emotions, and to this
day it all holds up up and I'mvery glad about that.

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Now, if y'all have heard mymadam webb review, then that was
my first time ever going by thegrade system, to where I kind
of moved on from the star systemand started doing the grade
system.
Now, this is definitely a plus.
Fuck all that.
Uh, you got a problem with afterlast and better, um, go argue

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with your mama about it, becausethis is a certified goaded
anime.
And yes, I said anime because alot of folks like to say it's
anime based on the art style,even though it was made in
america, or at least an americanstudio.
I'm maybe misremembering, but Iwouldn't say it's an anime from

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japan.
But we'll call it an americananime regardless, because I know
guys like professor tuck willfight you to death on oh, you
say it's not an anime.
I'm like can we say Americananime?
At least let's go with that.
Okay, are you happy?
Now Fuck?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
It is Western-style anime and it's still great.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not doubting, but technically no,
but I'll count it as an Americananime.
Damn right With that being saidwe got Kogagasu and Saitama
Smash making his return to thezone podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
What's poppin' everybody?
Without further ado gentlemen,how are?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
you feeling about Avatar the Last Airbender?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Amazing.
There's no question into that.
It's an awesome show.
It's literally got it's got somany good ratings on the show
that it spanned like generations.
It's something that literallynow little kids now will still
watch.
You can go on netflix and stillwatch the whole series and
you're going to enjoy it, yourkids are going to enjoy it.
My kids enjoy it.
It's one of those ones that myson has the um.

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He has uh hang airbender shoesthat we wound up getting from.
We wound up getting a converseset and literally he went to
school one day and then on theway back on the bus his little
friend was like hey, you watchavatar last airbender.
Oh, I love that show.
He's in second grade.
It's like, literally, kidstoday love it, parents love it.

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It has great elements, storydevelopment.
These characters go through somuch.
They build.
It's fantastic.
You can find a favoritecharacter and watch them grow,
watch them develop from early on.
And I will say one thing,something that my wife has
always said, as she's currentlywatching Naruto right now these

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kids go through a fucking lotlike, oh my gosh, they go
through so much, but at the sametime it's still one of those
things that's like you get achance to really see that growth
and see how it changes theworld, how everything is
affected like it's just, it'sawesome you know what we got to.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
On that note, one person said that naruto
essentially was a story aboutchild soldiers and I've never
been the same since I mean, it'sthe truth, because ninjas go
through pretty much go throughwhat spartans go through.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
You go through that stuff as a child.
The only difference is Spartansare thrown into the forest and
you just had to make it back byyourself.
Versus, like the ninjas arelike we're going to help you
back, but you know, if youhappen to just die on the way
back, that's just because yousuck.
You weren't meant to be againin your tree.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
And Aang was just thrown into that like hey,
here's a war.
You're 12 years old.
You got about less than a yearto learn all more elements,
Peace.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
And then you're like I don't want to do all that.
I don't really feel like it.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
But I don't really feel like it.
I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean you're telling me my entire life is dedicated
To this 10 year old getting offhis ass and doing something.
I'm gonna be honest with youwe're dead.
You put that like modern day,gen A standard bro, gen Alpha,
nah, we dead.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh lord, we're in the day and age when Gen Alphaphas
now a thing we are.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, somehow or another it started over from gen
z and went back to gen.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
A wait till we get to gen betas you, you tell me that
the fate of the entire world isin my hands and I have to learn
these awesome, magicalsuperpowers by like the end of
the year, or else this lord,actual lord, is gonna take over

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the world and probably burn itto ashes do I still have?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
time to play Skyrim you know what, based on canon
events, I consider Ozai thefalse king, like I'm just gonna
call him the false king prettymuch throughout this review
because, let's be real, like hisfather wanted Iroh to be the
Fire Lord, but Ozai was like,nah, I'm not having that, I'm

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gonna kill you in your sleep andtell everybody that they made
me.
You made me the new fire lordtoo much he fought man.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I miss the show actually on a fun note, I
actually cosplayed as Aang whenI was younger and I went to a
cosplay competition and I gotinto third place and the first
place was Katara and I wanted tofucking cry.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (06:56):
fucking kidding me.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
It's Katara, bro.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
Aang is dope, but like it'sKatara, Like but she was also
gorgeous.
It was a gorgeous woman almostdefinitely based off of like in
a lot based off like the, on thelast two natives, like was it
she was.
She was based on the characterdesign was based on Alaskan

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natives and Native Americans,but I'm part Cherokee.
American women are beautifulbut like gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I didn't know that you were part Cherokee.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
As part Blackwood, I agree.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Right.
So I'm just saying, like thisis real, bro, like I got my kids
is gorgeous, man, like my, bothmy daughters are beautiful.
I'm looking at them, just likey'all are just gorgeous.
You know what I'm just saying.
Well, I ain't even hyping themup, just being honest.
But for real, though, it'sKatara.
Now, on a not-so-fun note, thereare some things that we are

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happy that they didn't makechanges onto, which you know we
may wind up making a mention tothe live action show anyway that
there was some things thatwound up happening from the
original writers because mostpeople did not know that a lot
of the original writers had wonsome not a lot but some of the
original writers had left.
They didn't like thedevelopment and how the story

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was changing.
Some of them stayed.
Most of them stayed becausethey did appreciate.
So some of the things thatwound up changing is iroh is the
absolute one of the bestcharacters in the show.
There's no debating it.
But understand his entiredevelopment was almost ruined by
one man, one dude had itwritten to what it was.

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Is that at towards the end ofthe bat, towards the end, when
they're invading the fire nation, that iroh was going to
backstab zuko literally and stabhim in the back and kill him
because he betrayed fire lordozai, because he is, was
supposed to be a double secretagent and it's just one of those
things.
I'm just like that would havecompletely, completely ruined

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people.
Everybody trusted iron.
You're telling me that we wouldhave went through one, two,
three, four seasons I meantechnically it's only when only
went through three books.
There was a whole fourth bookthat never got animated but
literally went through threewhole books.
And you're telling me at theend of this, we were just going
to watch iroh betray zuko.

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At the end all of thisdevelopment saying I love it.
Yeah, yeah, people was like,yeah, I would have been.
People said I would have trustissues.
At that point I built my trustbased on iroh, literally a
person who was like I makemistakes and yet I could still
come back to you and you saythat I still love you and I
appreciate you.
I was just upset that you hadlost your way and understand

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that that whole speech wouldhave meant something completely
different.
Right now it means lose yourway as far as like going to the
right path of doing the rightthing, and that whole thing
would have been.
I was afraid you had lost yourway, but I could see you did
lose your way and you actuallydid want to betray your father.
You never came back and thenjust would have stabbed him

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right then.
And there I was like, oh my god, are you serious?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
zuko got betrayed by his dad and his uncle on that
note, let's go ahead and talk alittle bit about what avatar the
last airbender is about.
Then I'll hand it back to youguys.
Like I said, avatar the lastairbender was a rating success,
like critical claim and all that, whether it's from its cultural
references, art direction,voice acting, soundtrack, humor,

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themes and the series themes,by the way, included um touched
on, like youth entertainment,like war, genocide, imperialism,
totalitarianism, indoctrination, free choice, free will.
It won, like five, any awards agenesis award, a prime time

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emmy award, a kid's choice awardand a p-bite award.
This show is decorated to thenines with accolades and let's
go ahead and talk about just alittle bit.
So, excuse me, I'm hadsomething.

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So avatar set in a asianic likeworld, you know like a little
chinese, you know a sort of kindof sort of, and of course you
have the four nations, you knowthe arab nomads, you have the uh
earth kingdom, you have, uh,the water tribe and the fire

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nation and of course, like theysay in the intro, you know these
four elements and these fournations was living in harmony,
but then everything changed whenthe Fire Nation attacked.
So we have Aang, who wasn'treally feeling his Avatar duties
because, you know, it wasforced upon him.
So he was like you know whatI'm going to dip, what I'm gonna

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dip, and he went out into theocean, you know, ran away with
oppa, the flying bison, likecreature, like what was he?
The fusion of a bison and whatelse I'm gonna say?
Like not really a platypus, butlike it has.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Like a platypus, but you know what he has like a
beaver like a beaver tail on the.
It has like a beaver tail.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
On the back, yeah, like a beaver tail.
That's what I'm going for,essentially.
They got caught up in a stormand they were like Near drowning
and decided you know what?
I got an idea.
Let me just encase myself inice.
And he was asleep for 100 yearsUp until Katara and Sasaka

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Found him Floating in the iceand decided to free him.
And that's pretty much wherethe story began, where,
essentially, while Aang isTrying to Prepare to defeat Fire
Lord Zai before he conquers theworld using the Souls in Common
, which happens during theSummer Solstice and while that's

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going on at first, keep in mind, aang may be the central
character, but this is also thestory of zuko, the exiled prince
of the fire nation, trying tohunt down the avatar to restore
his lost honor, um, from hisfather.
But let's be honest, like thefalse king is a fucking dick and

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I don't care what anybody elsesays.
Azula is just as bad, if notworse, but I guess I get the
attraction for some fans.
I kinda get it, but I know thecrazier she is, the meaner the.

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You know what I mean.
That's a little too crazy forme, especially near the end
where she was like getting realparanoid, where to a point where
, oh no, I need to fire ally'all because y'all gonna just
turn on me.
Either y'all gonna turn on menow or y'all gonna turn on me
later.
I can't risk that.
Y'all need all y'all need toget the fuck out.

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And then she was like trying tofix up her hair and whatnot.
And then it's like, oh fuck,all this just started cutting up
, like she was just having likeuh, a mental breakdown.
Saw her a vision of her mother,and I was like, oh, you always
hated me, didn't you?
And uh, her mother was like no,I always loved you, baby, you
just scared the shit out of me.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well, she scared the shit out of everybody like
everybody, she scared the shitout of everybody.
Everybody knew that she wasbatshit crazy, even when she was
a kid.
She would use animals as targetfactors and she oh you know,
that's usually.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
That was like Jeff Dahmer type shit.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
This is true.
Also, one of the things Ireally love into the story is
the fact that originally, zukowas not going to be in the story
, but in order to give some typeof development for the
characters before they wind upfighting against Ozai, they
needed some type of protagonistthat was going to like serve in
place because they hid Ozai he.
They needed some type ofprotagonist that was going to
serve in place because they hidOzai.
He was hidden throughout mostof the first book until we

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finally got a chance to see himtowards the end of the season
and so getting a chance tounderstand that Zuko and Azula
Zuko was made to be thatprotagonist.
And then people fell in lovewith Zuko for literally the same
thing that happened to Bakugo.
Zuko was not supposed to get aredemption arc, as I already had
mentioned before, anywaysupposed to be betrayed and
stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Um, he was not really supposed to get a redemption
arc and so because people thefans love zuko and wanted to see
him better is why we wound upgetting a zula because we needed
to have another antagonist tokeep things going, hold on, I
feel all that, but at the sametime, I'm starting to detect a
pattern going on, because wetalked about this with zuko, now
we talked about this withparker girl and we definitely

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talked about this with vegeta.
I'm getting a pattern to whereit's like oh you got that bad
boy, anti-hero type characterand the fans be like I say we
need to give him a chance.
And then that's funny too,because uncle alvaro said
himself that everyone deserved achance to redeem themselves,
which is fair, but thecoincidence of it, though, no,

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no, it's not even coincidence,it's literally just a thing.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
That's what fans like to do.
A lot of fans like to do that.
And let's be honest, if I meanskip absolutely loves bakugou
she's not on right now, but weknow she defends him like no
other Absolutely to the T.
I like Vegeta, so it's like youknow, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I mean, yeah, like I like Vegeta too.
There's just something aboutwhere I'm like I kind of like I
like Vegeta too.
Like there's just somethingabout when I'm like I kind of
like how inspirational he can beat Times.
You know, like some of thespeeches that you have where
like okay, maybe Not exactly Ashining Beacon of you know like
Righteousness of course, butlike Sometimes the shit he says,

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I'm like I kind of feel thatthough.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Something I'm actually curious about is the
reason that and I'm going to usethis as a per example for
everybody, because if you caughtup in the manga, so I'm not
going to spoil it if you caughtup in the manga on my Hero
Academia, you're going toprobably want to obviously say
no to this, so I'm not going touse that as an example to this,

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so I'm not going to use that asan example.
But with goku and with umvegeta, I see, with goku and
vegeta and with um, I guess aangand zuko kind of what if the
reason our characters becameextra goofy was because they
gave all those serious notes tothis character that was supposed
to be like a villain that fanswanted to be redeemed and stuff.
So they gave them speeches,they gave those moments to those

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characters, but probably wasoriginally supposed to be for
the main character and they hadnothing for the main character,
so they made him extra goofy.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Let me tell you right now.
There are some characters thatare written as black characters,
like I said before with Goku towhere he's the type same thing
with Aang, by the way.
Goku and Aang are those type ofcharacters to where they're so
solid right out of the gate.
They don't need a whole lot ofcharacter development, except
for when the plot demands thatthey have to like either become

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stronger or they get challengedby like okay, what if you like
become evil?
Like what if you have to likekill a man and whatnot?
And then essentially, theircharacter is being challenged by
the world.
But they're so solid that I'mlike, well, damn, like you know
what?
Maybe you taught me a lesson,like how, when he, the Guru,

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episodes where Aang wanted toenter the Avatar state, to
master the Avatar state, and hewas going through all the hoops
and hurdles up until he got tothe point where he needs to lose
his attachment to Katara andyou know, love and all that shit
, you know like go full monkmode.
And Aang was not really feelingthat and he pretty much dipped,

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and even though the guru said,oh well, you'll never achieve
your avatar state if you leave,and I'm like, nah, fuck all that
I'll find another way, and heeventually does.
And then, once again, the MVP,uncle Iroh Aang, was talking to
Iroh about it and he was, likeit's very commendable that you

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chose love over power andperfection, true.
So my point being is that Gokuand Aang, like, even though
Goku's like an idiot, but he'san endearing idiot like even
though goku's like an idiot, buthe's an endearing idiot, he's
the kind of idiot to where it'slike, okay, you're so nice and
friendly, it's almost like Ikind of want to be more like you
, but you know, goku just builtdifferent, like that.

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But the point being that I wastrying to make is that, while
those two characters are flatcharacter arcs, vegeta and zuko
are positive change artcharacters to where they're the
ones supposed to like, uh,challenge the life that they
believed in all those years ago.
Same thing with Vegeta, samething with Zuko.
To where they believe that, um,they need to redeem themselves,

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um, for the sake of their pride, because, you know, both of
them being princes andeventually they had to realize
that they need to let some shitgo and choose peace and all the
other shit.
You know how, like Vegeta, theculmination of his care
development was I, I would sayarguably in the Majin Buu saga.

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Even though there were someprecursors in the Cell saga, it
was mainly taking place in theMajin Buu saga, and Zuko was
right.
I want to say it was like inthe beginning of season three,
but it was more like okay, itstarted off with cutting their
ponytails, all right, and thenhe let go of this persona of the

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blue spirit.
Ponytails all right, and then helet go of this persona of the
blue spirit and essentially,after all this flip flop back
and forth, he eventually startedto realize the error of his
ways and how he shouldn't betrying to get the validation of
his father, but rather he needsto, uh, realize that he was good
enough already.
So he doesn't really need hisfather To tell him that he's

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good enough, even though youknow, like I said, the false
king is an asshole anyway.
So why do you care for hisvalidation?
If anything?
Iroh said it himself.
Well, zuko and Iroh both saidit, but essentially Iroh is more
of a father To Zuko than Ozaiis.
So that's their arc.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
True of a father to Zuko than Ozai is, so that's
their arc.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
True, yeah, having a chance to have a dynamic
character like Zuko, and I guessit was me aside having the
static.
But I will say I don't thinkAang was so static enough, I
think he still became dynamic.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, he had some dynamic moments, but it's more
like he was already a solid kidto begin with.
He just needed a little moredevelopment.
You know he was already on theright path, but he just needed
more, just a little more.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
He didn't need a whole lot, but a little more and
then also having that applausetowards the end where he still
stayed true to who he was, atthe very end where everybody is
like you're gonna have to killthis nigga.
The very end where everybody islike you're gonna have to kill
this nigga, you're gonna have tokill him, you're gonna have to
kill him.
And he's like, no, there'snothing but violence, because
violence, because violence.
There is another option.
I'm gonna figure this shit out.

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And you know, luckily, with thewhole lion turtle situation, you
know, he got an opportunity tobe like oh, this is how I, how
I'm going to do it.
And he's like I removed yourbending, the lion turtles gave
bending and I have the power,just like the lion turtles, to
give and take bending away.
And then I'm sitting here likefor me it was one of those
moments I'm like you have thepower to give bending, so I

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could.
Probably was like yo, my niggakid I, oh, I think I saw a
little comic book where someonedid that too.
Can you temporarily give me theability to bend stuff?
Just temporarily give me theability to bend fire, or
something like that.
I just want to try it out forone time.
It was a funny little comicthat someone had made, but like
For real though.
Give me some powers.

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I've been walking around herehalf-dead, half-died, all this
damn time.
Could you give me some powers?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
You know what?
On that note, you just broughtup a good question that I have.
I'm going to get back to you.
But I want to ask Saitama,saitama, if you could have any
form of bending, any one form ofbending like, even if you can
like be able to deviate and makethose different forms like just
based on the four core elements.

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Which bender would you ratherbe?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
A defender and without, without any myths,
there ain't going to be no pausehere.
It's going to be an offender.
They have two subclasses and,with that being said, out of
those two subclasses, I wouldhave loved.
Okay, fine, metalbending iscool and all.
I think it's actually prettycool.

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If you would have metalbendingnow, you'd be Magneto.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Ha ha, ha, ha, I mean you can't fully say into that,
because there is a limitation tometalbending.
Once it's kind of left yourgrasp it still has to be like
because, with it being kind of aform of earth bending, it still
has to be like within range,like within a certain amount of
range for you for it to kind ofwork out.
So I won't fully say magneto,but I mean technically we had,

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like I know, when I was talkingabout Legend of Korra had, I
mean, top did make that developand the only difference is that
bag you don't can bend flatexactly.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
And the thing is is yeah, exactly like you can't
bend certain metals that arethat are too refined, or else it
just it won't work.
Now talk to me about lavabending, which you know.
With any of the true fans, youknow, they don't know this comes
out in like the legend of korra.

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But that's, that's the othersubclass, which is lava bending,
that is overpowered.
All right, and the otherbenders who see that even other,
like metal benders, taughtherself.
She specifically stated that ifyou can do, um, lava bending,
you're a rare class like you'rea rare type of person that is

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able to perform this, becausenot many people, they don't even
know that this type of subelement even exists, let alone
people who know how to use it.
That's rare.
Me, if you give me earthbendingand tell me hey,
congratulations, lava bending isunlocked.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I know so level Like here's a lot of new stuff.
Class Lava vendor yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yep, yep, and I'm a oh, you know for a fact.
You know for a fact that I'mgoing, I'm going to rag,
actually fun fact, by the way.
Um, one of my nicknames in inthe group that I play with at
Commander Magic the Gathering.
Now that you mentioned sololeveling, he's a necromancer too

(26:41):
.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Don't give out your card deck.
Don't give out your deck, bro.
Keep that a secret For thosewho haven't played yet.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Oh, they'll find out eventually, because there's only
one commander that's a zombiecommander that's blue-black and
it helps me draw and it helps meget a zombie and the fans can
go nuts on that.
Later on they'll guess They'llbe able to find it.
Let them put up in the commentsand see if they can figure it

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out.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Alright Kogagatsu same question.
If you could be any of the Fourelements, including the
subclasses that come with it,which one would you be?
Alright Kogagatsu, samequestion.
If you could be any of the fourelements, including the
subclasses that come with it,which one would you be?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Air.
I've been an air nomad all day.
First off, understand this.
You don't fuck with people wholike to stay to themselves.
That's some real shit.
Understanding this airbendingis so damn powerful.
You don't need a second sub.
You don't need a second sub,don't need like two subclasses,
because fire, you got lightningand you got, um, I guess,
explosion.
Technically, combustion is alsokind of, yeah, combustion

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bending, so yeah, you gotcombustion and lightning, earth,
you have lava and metal andthen water.
You have ice and blood, butreally just more refined water
per se.
But I mean, technically metalis refined herb, so same thing,
um, you know.
So you kind of have that air.
You don't need no fuckingsubclass air itself.
Is the?
Here's the thing about being anairbender, aside from the fact

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that you know we obviously stoodagain having gotten to legend
of korra, but legend of korrareally told you how deadly these
other earth but these otherstyle bendings really are, aside
from the fact that old boy likeripped the fucking air out of
somebody, out that bitch's mouth, and just had her suffocate on
her own breath to death, whichis crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
You know, even even at the first season, I was
already like dude, airbending isas powerful as hell because,
like we can see that air, we cansee airbenders doing airbend,
but in reality, the opponentisn't able, isn't not capable of
seeing this movement of air.
So, to be fair, these peoplewere just seeing like swish

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slash, whoosh.
Why the fuck am I in the air?
How am I two miles away now?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
exactly so.
One of the one of the bestthings about airbending is the
fact that, um, like you said,you can't really see it coming
because it's air.
You just gotta like understandit's coming.
Second thing into it is that,being an air nomad air nomads
have a fucking spider sense.
They talking about that shit.
They have a fucking spidersense.
You can feel the airflow andanything changing.
If a firebender is about toattack you, you can feel the air

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getting hot.
If a waterbender is about toattack you, you can feel the
water pressure in the airchanging.
If an earthbender is about toattack you, you can feel the
shifts in the air.
You can feel the shifts in theair circulation in the ground
because there's space betweenthe slats of the earth.
If you are truly in tune withair, being that true air nomad
that you are supposed to be, andunderstanding that air is life,

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breath is life, you're in tunewith everything.
You can detect every attackcoming to you.
And let's just say by chance,you don't, because my second
pick was going to be earthbecause one of the things about
I like how somebody hadmentioned one time on youtube
was I've been thinking aboutthis as I was a kid.
Earthbenders just are toofucking nice because Toph has

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shown the fact that you can justbend the earth beneath
somebody's feet and cause themto split and hit.
They nuts on the ground.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
That just happens.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Earthbenders just don't do that.
But you can bend the earthunderneath somebody.
That's already powerful enough,an air nomad, even if you don't
truly disassociate yourself.
Nigga, you can ride on afucking air ball.
I can fly through the air.
All you can do is just keepthrowing rocks at my ass
Congratulations.
You keep throwing rocks and I'mjust dodging, dodging, dodging,

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and then I can go with theairflow.
If I decide to be like, oh, I'mdone dodging, instead of
getting hit by the rock, I justride the air current that the
rock just created and get outthe way.
Or if I decide to just be thatmotherfucking badass because ang
did do this one time take theelement, engulf it in an air
bubble and shoot that shit rightback at you.

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By that point you too shockedto be like holy shit, did you
just bend something else?
I didn't have to be in, nothingelse.
I encased it in air and threwit back at you.
Now you're getting hit withyour own attack plus an air
boost Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Air on air bruh.
Air on air was really dangerousand they knew that.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
And then spirit beings is what the spirit
bending?
I'm the only motherfucker thatcan fight a ghost.
Ghosts will whoop your ass.
Ghosts ain't gonna whoop my assbecause I'm a spirit being that
motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Which is in and of itself technically like a
subclass, but only very fewpeople know about it and only
very few people can use it.
So very few people use it.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
It so people use it.
That is not.
That is not that nobody knowsabout.
It is something that all airnomads do know.
It's a goal to be achieved.
That's the point of like yourwhole thing is like you're.
You're aiming sorry about thatis that you're aiming to be that
point to where you can spiritbends.
You're aiming to be that pointthat, where you can spirit bend,
you're aiming to be that pointthat you have gotten to that

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absolute control, that absolutelifting of yourself off the
ground, to where you'vedisassociated yourself so much
with the earth, with allexistence, and you finally have
pretty much encased in true,absolute enlightenment.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I'm reading that spirit bending is under water
bending.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Spirit bending actually.
I think they did move it underwater bending actually.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean air nomads are able todo it.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I mean air nomads are able to do this shit, then she
was a perfect airbender, she wasa master airbender and she knew
about the entire ability Oflike the spirit realm and using
it as in her face.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
You're talking about Du's daughter.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
In Legend of Korra.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Or who.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah yeah, korra.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Unalaq taught it to Korra, but I know we're not
talking about Legend of Korra,but still I was looking into it
and I was like Wait a minuteit's under waterbender.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
So technically remember, she is also based.
She also has waterbender bloodin her veins Too, because her
grandma is a waterbender.
Yeah, that's what you'retalking about.
So you want to be technical inthat aspect, you can put in that
aspect too.
But the air nomads were able totraverse into the spirit realm
as well.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
They have spiritual projection.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah, and don't ghost mess with me, bro, ghost fear
me.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
There you go, yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
I'm going to be real with y'all Now, with what Coco
Gazz has said, he madeairbending sounds so OP, which
it is, that I would choose that.
But I need to be real withmyself.
I'd probably be a firebenderLike I want to.
Because here's the thing Firstof all, when you talk about
breathing and it was like mybreathing I make that a big deal

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when it comes to martial artsand shit, but also the fighting
style.
You know how with each benderthey have a specific way of how
they move with the elements andfire just feels more natural to
me to where I feel like I'm moreof a natural fire bender than
anything else.
I'm almost like Korra to anextent, to where it's like, oh

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well, you know it feels sonatural to me, even though she's
from the water tribe and allthat, but not only that.
But I just feel like the onlyreason why I want firebending is
because you know it's cool andalso I'm like a big catechial
hitman reborn fan.
So I'm like that's like thecool.
Thing too, you know you alreadyknow, but also Having lightning

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powers and combustion Is prettycool too.
So I'm like it just feels morein my element.
So airbending is very Cool, andsame thing with earthbending.
Like, honestly, if I could bethe avatar, I would be fucking
around With all four of theelements.
To be honest, just like Aangwhen he fought Otozai and I was
like all Four elements at once.
He was Ready for war againstthat motherfucker.

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This is true, but I gotta bereal with myself.
Firebender would probably bemore of my element.
No pun intended.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I completely understand.
Honestly, I know we've talkedabout it before, but I
definitely feel you as afirebender as well too.
It's that moment ofunderstanding.
Fire is one of the best thingsabout it, and I think it'll be a
great fit for you as well inthe fact that firebenders most
people be like oh, you're just ahothead, you can't do nothing.
But I wouldn't put you intothose firebending categories.

(35:34):
I put you in the firebenderslike the sun vendors yeah, the
ones that, like that, understandthat fire actually doesn't just
come from anywhere, but itcomes from within.
It's not fire of rage, it'sfire of breath, it's a fire of
life.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
That passion within that shit that keeps you going,
that perseverance, the purestform of fire.
It's like a fire, that's like,even though it burns bright, but
it's like, for some reason,it's oddly warm, yep.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
And they were the ones who understood directly,
because they were being taughtby the original Firebenders,
which was the Dueling Dragons.
They knew very well and theyunderstood perfectly what the
element of fire was composed ofand the sunbenders?
The sunbenders were in tunedentirely with this element and

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I'm glad, I'm so glad that theydecided to put that onto the
show and present that onto the.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
And that's my main thing I'm not like one of those
motherfuckers that'll be like ohyeah, I'm gonna use my powers
to be a bully and shit, prettymuch like a zula, but it's more
like it just feels natural to meto a point to where, like, not
only that, but like I would knowbetter, to where I'm not trying
to hurt anybody with it um, notintentionally, not like, but

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more like because I have thesepowers, I should definitely know
how to control it.
To a point to where I only needto firebend if I absolutely
need to.
Like I would be as peaceful asIroh with this shit.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Oh, most definitely, and be that moment like the
dragon flame, like just beinglike that moment.
You be like ooh, everyone'slike, oh, I'm so scared, I don't
know, I don't know, he seemsdangerous, seems dangerous and
it was like man, he don't seemthat dangerous.
I didn't seem dangerous becauseI have to show you, but if you
really want me to show you whythey call me the dragon, I can
show you why they call me thedragon and then you got john.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
John just gatekeeping and being like nah firebender's
dangerous and it'll destroyeverything.
Calm your ass down.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Just because you're a firebender doesn't mean you're
automatically a bad guy.
It's just that you just happento be able to firebend.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
He was gatekeeping the crap out of it.
He was like no, no, no, youshouldn't learn firebending
because it's so dangerous.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
You should go learn something else oh, you mean like
bang, when he was firstlearning, when he was trying to
learn, and he got completelyscared because old dude told him
control his breathing, he waslike no, no, I just want to jump
, I just want to do this, I wantto do this.
And it's like I'm never gonnafire bend again.
It's like no, you, you can'tmake that promise.
You're the avatar you have to.
You don't have a choice.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
You can't, you can't.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I don't have any other options besides that and
if I, if I really get pushed,it's not gonna even be
firebending, it'll be more likefirebending is like my core
element, but I'm morespecialized in the lightning
generation aspect of it to whereI can be like fucking Yusuke
with a fucking speargun, exceptit's more like a railgun with
two fingers and I'll be like youreally want the smoke fam.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yo, that would you know.
Hold up, hold up, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute,
wait a minute.
I just thought of something.
You make a good point Withelectricity and rail guns.
Oh what, yeah, I'll be likefucking Accelerate.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Well, not Accelerate, but that one girl who's like
known as the rail gun from acertain magical index.
I'm sorry if I forgot her name,but I swear to God god, it was
like on the tip of my tongue butfuck it.
But yeah, I'll pretty much belike that girl from a certain
magical index or a certainmagical rail gun, depending on
your prerogative yeah, no, andum in, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I'm gonna keep mentioning this, even though
we're not really talking aboutlegend of korra.
But in legend of korra one ofthe main characters was
specialized in the use oflightning and he was a good
firebender, but his lightningwas insane.
Yeah.
It's more like.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I'll be trying to master making it so concentrated
that it'll be a little railgunWith two fingers.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
I have a question.
So it's like Thomas Smash, Ihave a color.
What color fire.
Do you think JB is?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
It really all depends .
You got that fire in you.
You got that.
You're calm for the most part.
You got that fire in you, yougot that oomph, you're calm for
the most part.
And I would say that it's moreor less of a combination.
It's kind of like how Zuko hadhis own combination of around

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like four different types ofbetween red, orange, yellow.
It's like a mixture there.
I'd say you're in thatin-between, with the red yellow
turning into like a bluish, very, very pure, very hot, but calm

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at the same time.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Damn he's not wrong Pretty much yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, I was going to say like green, because that
would be that moment of likeimagine.
I can just imagine JB bendinggreen fire.
He'd be like it's definitelyhot enough to hurt you?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
No, but hold on.
That's the whole point of thesky Flame, because you know
storm, rain, lightning, sun,Mist, clouds, he Understand,
except all.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
There's an extra chemical in there.
If it's green, um, I don't know.
Look it up.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I don't remember which one it is.
I think it's like sulfur orsomething like that.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Oh shit yeah, that would be like a very combustible
I don't remember which one.
I think it's like sulfur orsomething like that.
Oh shit, yeah, that'd be like avery combustible flame to where
it's like.
Essentially it'll be that kindof flame to where you can
combine other firebenderstogether, to where it just
becomes even more deadly.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Well, the reason I ask it is because in
technicality, based on the firesof the dragons, the dragons
were able to bend all the colors, like when they were breathing
their fire during the wholedragon dance, which also that
whole segment was an amazingthing, for Zuko is a great
character.
I know there's a couple ofthings I do want to talk about.
Like, zuko's story witheverybody was like fucking

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amazing.
But I was asked about thecolors because of the fact that
the dragons are able to bend allcolors, like they hit a full
rainbow of fucking fire colorswhen they were breathing
together and then cultman anddoing that fire pillar around
zuko and ang and it was like youcould see the blue, green,
yellow, orange, red, purple andit was like a full-on rainbow

(42:39):
and it was just fucking gorgeous.
But understand that every colorhas a different range of heat as
well as also a different rangeof passion and calmness as well
too, and based upon your passion, I would definitely say like a
green flame to me fits like itwould be perfect into that
outside of the extra chemicalcombustion.
But having those moments thatyou like you know sometimes you

(43:05):
may wind up having those moments.
You gotta blow up like bakugou,you gotta start fucking shit up
.
Then you also have thosemoments that you're like I can
be calm, I can do my thing.
But also one thing to keep inmind to this too is the fact
that azula's flame was blue.
But understand that there was amoment where her flame did
actually go red at one point.
It was right after she gotdefeated, and you understand.
In that moment where her flamedid actually go red at one point
, it was right after she gotdefeated, and you understand in
that moment where she Can wetalk about that for a moment?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Can we talk about that Agni Kai to where, okay,
she was fighting Zuko and themusic and everything.
Beautiful, gorgeous, I loved it.
But it was like it got to apoint to where Azula started
playing dirty and you know, zukowas trying to goad her into
using lightning bending so thatthey could pretty much clutch

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the fight.
But Azula pulled a fast one andplayed dirty by shooting it at
Katara.
Zuko blocked it.
He was pretty much down for alittle while.
Zuko blocked it.
He was pretty much down for umfor a little while and then
Azula started attacking umKatara until she found out there
was like some water, um in thearea.
So she kind of tricked Azulainto getting to the right spot

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so she can freeze both of themand then move in within the ice.
You know like a little bit ofwater in there.
So she was like able to movewithin the ice and wrap her with
those chains and shit, kind ofrestrain her and all that.
And then she healed duco andwhatnot and she was like
breathing fire out of her mouth,like she was just going fucking
crazy about tears running overher eyes, and I was like you

(44:32):
know, I don't feel no, no, holdon, hold on.
I don't feel bad for her, butthis, uh, this moment right here
, is bringing down the mood,true.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
In one of the books and this is where it kind of
Separates from the series.
During the books you do get asecond look At At Azula and you
start realizing that the traumathat her father bestowed upon
her just like Zuko, wastraumatized by him.

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Her trauma primarily resides onher mother and you start
realizing where she fucked upand where Azula fucked up.
Mentally.
The whole story is just reallygood and it kind of it kind of
just like makes you feel for hera little bit, but she's still a

(45:30):
bitch yeah almost definitely,most definitely, appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Oh so, one of the things I was saying about that,
because it's like if, um, I mean, if there was a sliver of a
chance that she could haveredemption art, I would have
felt bad for her.
But you know that bitch wasgonna change.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Katara would have won that shit if she decided to
bloodbend.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Bro, now, that's the first.
I felt bad.
Zuko knew she could do it.
But no, hold on.
Now, katara is someone that Ifelt bad for when that witch,
hama, tried to trick her intowell, not really trick her, but
it's more like she revealedherself to be the one that was

(46:10):
like kidnapping Fire Nationsoldiers.
You know that whole rigmarole.
And then, when it was Aang andSokka, they kept excuse me, I'm
eating right now.
My bad, I'm crushing on it.
I know Aang and Sokka catch upto them.

(46:32):
And eventually the witch decided, okay, I'm going to use them
against you.
And then, you know, she kind offought them off to the best of
her ability.
Okay, I got a better idea.
I, I'm gonna make them fighteach other.
And like, no, stop it.
And then made her like katarawas bloodbending and all that.
And you know, even though thewitch um was got arrested,
whatnot, she laughed at all,saying like, oh well, you're a

(46:54):
bloodbender now, whether youlike it or not.
And then katara started crying.
I'm like I felt bad for her inthat moment because I'm like you
know she had no choice so muchshit bro, these kids go through
too much shit in this show man.
Oh, you want to talk about shit.
Let's talk about the time whenAppa got captured by sandbenders

(47:15):
.
He got so mad he was like intothe avatar state and all that
shit and Aang threw away his nokill.
He was like into the.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Avatar state and all that shit.
And that moment threw away hisno kill rule.
It was like Batman.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
He was like fuck that shit, and these niggas got that
.
Season 2, episode 17,.
Appa's Lost Days won an awardfrom the Humane Society because
that was fucked up the way theydid to Appa.
That was fucked up Like as ananimal lover, like I kind of
might jump in that screen andkick all their asses for that.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Most definitely, Most definitely.
And they were just like shitit's just another wild beast,
who the fuck cares?
Type of shit.
Nah, nigga.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Oh, you gonna find out, you about to find out today
, nigga.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Like I said, a was like fuck that, no kill.
If Katara did not stop him, awas gonna murder the
motherfuckers.
He was gonna be like fuck thisshit, nah, bro.
He said you know what?
Wasn't it that, like airbendersbe like oh, we don't kill man,
Fuck that shit.
My master killed 25, men I'm in.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Who said the way any other than he's gonna kill?
Peace is made of steel, y'alltook my best friend.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Y'all left me without a ride and y'all think that
y'all gonna get out of herewithout seeing a hospital bill.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Bitch, that's it.
They almost didn't see nohospital period.
Bro, I tell you you aboutmurdered.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Aang would have pulled up with a fucking shovel
and I'm like I hope you know howthis is going to go down.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Back to.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Robbie, Back down when you're about to shovel
there's like eight holes dugover there.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Just throw yourselves in there.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
His name, Remember.
Toph was having some trouble,but she did learn a little bit
that she could kind of bend thesand just a little bit.
She did learn.
Toph learned every single pointof her bending.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Hold on, let's talk about Toph that's the MVP right
there Because first of all, shegot captured in that metal cage
and I was like let me feelaround.
I'm like okay, I pretty muchdiscovered metal bending now and
also one of my favoriteepisodes like not my favorite

(49:28):
episode all the time, but it'slike an episode that I really
like.
Uh, season three, episode seven, the runaway to where, while
qatar was um expressingdisapproval with talking, the
boys wanted to um go out intotown scamming Fire Nation street
gamblers for some cash.
Bro, they were hustling betterthan Ed, edd and Eddie for real

(49:49):
in one episode.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
True, true, yeah.
Yeah, they were underestimatinga blind girl like nah, this
girl don't know what she's doing.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Understand.
She a rich girl who know howthe street work.
Bro, that's a rare find.
Like, what's the real shit?
She's like I may I may havegrew up with a whole bunch of
money, but shit, I know thesestreets, I run these streets.
You don't know nothing, becauseI know all about this.
Bro, like she was, she was soquick to just know how to.
She hustled the fuck out ofhere and they and they got so
mad and the guitar got upset.

(50:22):
She was like no, I'm going toturn you in.
And then wind up gettingcaptured herself.
She was like oh shit, okay,maybe my plan didn't work.
And Top was just like see, hadyou just shut the fuck up, we
would have had money and we'djust been gone and nobody your
ass had to be Mr Goody, goodyTwo Shoes, didn't you?
You?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
just had to be Mr Goody Goody, Two Shoes.
She had to be all nice and shitand there you go.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Why couldn't you just let you pulled a double D on
him.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
That part, no, no, actually I can't even do that.
Double D knew how to turn ablind eye sometimes.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Sometimes he kind of get crazy with being um
self-righteous and whatnot.
So he was like you rememberwhen, uh, the kids in the
cul-de-sac I know we're gonnatalk about ed and eddie, um,
like next month anyways, but mypoint being is that when the
kids decided, oh well, you know,uh, let's fuck the rules, uh,
our parents aren't here,whatever, whatever, whatever.

(51:20):
And then Double D got so had amental breakdown over the
rampant chaos.
He was like I've pretty muchgone temporarily insane and
decided to snitch on y'all.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I'm like what did you do that for?

Speaker 3 (51:38):
I'm gonna be honest, double D would never let that
down.
That down, that's a permanentthing.
Kevin was so pissed off at thatpoint he was like why would you
do that, double D?
We loved you.
You was the one, ed, that wetolerated.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
But now he's just as bad as everybody else.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
You're just as bad as the rest of them, oh god.
Bad as everybody else.
You just as bad as the rest ofthem.
Oh god, it was so bad, but no,like Toph.
So the only bending Toph neverlearned of her subclass was lava
bending, and she admitted thatshe did try.
She was upset that she couldn'tlearn it but our boy Bolin

(52:19):
ended up doing it true, but yeah, so she.
So she learned swamp bending,she, she got swamp bending, she
got sand bending, she got ummetal bending.
She literally hit every singlesubgenre in in earth bending,
except for lot bending, and thatthat says something.
That really says something.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
I don't think a situation came up to a point
where she needed, well, hold on,if she went to um boiling rock
with um that boiling rockepisode, you know, where uh saka
was trying to um rescue um hisdad but turns out um suki was
there and uh, it was a whole ummess.
If she was there and was like,let me look around, and she's

(53:03):
like, oh well, there's lava, I'mlike, hold on, lava magma,
that's like earth and firecombined.
You know, she could have kindof finagled it to where.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
I'm like, hold on let me try lava bending real quick
yeah, I think the thing is theydid want to explain that lava
bending wound up being such ararity is the fact that you have
to have a certain gene to beable to control, because it's
like controlling the vibrationsof Earth or something like that.
It was explained in the comics.
There wasn't one that wasexplained in the show, so it was
explained in the comics.

(53:35):
So I was like, so I'm not goingto go too much into that.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I'm not going to go too much into that.
I'm actually reading up alittle bit of Earthbending, and
even though Lava bending wasconsidered only to be Something
that was strictly For theavatars, since avatar.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Zeta was the.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
No, roku was not the first one.
Zeta was the first.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
He was the first one to lava bend Roku was not the
first one.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Zeta was the first.
He was the first one to lavabend Roku.
That knowledge was passed on toRoku Because obviously he's the
avatar.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yoshi knows how to do it.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yoshi knows how to do it because she had to break up.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
The land.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
The island, exactly, and she used lava bending
because of Zeta.
But there's a possibility thatBolin might be a descendant of
one of the avatars, like AvatarZetto, even though I don't think
he really even had kids at anypoint, or I think he did or

(54:35):
whatever.
But that was only strictly tothe Avatar and people who can do
it.
They have an odd connection,but that was only strictly to
the Avatar and people who can doit.
They have an odd connection toone of these Avatars and they
are known to be very offensiveand defensive.
Since, let's be honest, I'm notgetting near lava, and even if

(55:02):
you know waterbending,congratulations.
How are you going to cool thatshit down as quickly as you can?
You're going to need a lot ofwater to do this.
As you can, I'm going to kissthe fucking floor.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (55:15):
That oddly reminds me of the first Fantastic Four
movie where they made a wholescience experiment on Doctor
Doom.
It's like what would happen ifyou super cool hot metal real
fast.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Oh yeah, Like rusted him shut.
Oh, that was horrible, it washorrible.
That would have been the worstthing, like the worst death that
you could ever imagine.
God almighty, I really hopethey do.
Fantastic Four have been theworst things, like the worst
death that you could everimagine.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Just god almighty, I really hope they do fantastic
war and dr doom some justicewhen they try to bring around.
I'm like bro, like if the mcufuck it up I will be rioting
they're supposed to be getting anew movie I know, but I'm like,
please don.
I'm like please don't fuck itup.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Please don't fuck it up.
Look, we got a couple of nerdsin that lineup for the new movie
.
These are actual people.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
These are nerds who actually like reading comic
books we got some Henry Cavill'son our hands.
Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah we got some good word.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Got some good word on that.
I will say um.
So going back, because I knowum, obviously for time, but
we're gonna go ahead.
I do again really want to talkabout zuko a little bit more and
understanding that his momentsthat he had with every single
character.
So we already know that.
You know, when he went to tryto help teach ang firebending,
zuko lost his bending because helost his rage.

(56:40):
Everything was built upon hisrage and anger and then once he
finally got accepted into theteam, he no longer had that
anymore.
He's like I lost my bending andI don't understand what
happened.
And then you know, wind uphaving to go learn to the
Sunbenders and to the Sun Nation.
And then they taught him it'sbecause you just was bending the
wrong way all the time.
All y'all keep bending weak andshit.
All y'all some weakmotherfuckers.

(57:01):
That's not what they said, but Ifeel like, honestly, that's
really what it felt, like theywere just like hammering it in
like over and over again.
It was hilarious as shit.
Then, of course, it went off onAng.
Your bending is unrefined andpremature and primitive, exactly
.
And y'all has abandonedeverybody, everybody.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
What makes you think that weshould serve, we should help you
out, since you abandoned us?

Speaker 1 (57:23):
I was like damn you have to literally report
yourself that part, um, but hehad moments for everybody.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
He had moments with um, he had moments with Sokka
when they wound up going andbreaking into the prison in
order to free Suki and uh, freeum their dad, uh katara and um
saka's dad from prison as well.
To like that whole prisonsequence was just insane because
they were gone for days andlike katara and aang were like

(57:55):
restless.
They were so frustrated likebro, we can't, we can't send
messages, we can't like check inon you guys.
Like this is horrible, likewhat's gonna, what's gonna
happen.
But that whole prison breaksequence was like such a crucial
thing um giving an opportunityalso for zuko's more development
and the fact that he's, likeyou know, may does love me and
she's willing to betray herfriendship betray her country

(58:17):
for me before I forget, forget.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I love how, yes, zuko quote unquote betrayed Mei.
But at the end, when they getback together and whatnot you
know they like kiss and make upand all that and she pulled some
shit to where I kind ofexpected that from fucking Eska

(58:41):
you know, the girl twin fromLegend of Korra Like don't ever
break up with me again.
I'm like okay.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Oh yeah.
Eska was fucking crazy dude.
She was nuts.
Red flags everywhere.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Hey, if the cooters fire, I get it.
Hey, the cooter could be fired.
But man, this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
We went there.
Children who was listening tothis, thinking that this is just
going to be over Like AvatarLast Airbender.
The show is still meant forkids.
Our podcast is not, so y'allknow.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
They probably watch porn by now I was about to say
yo, like I'm, like my wife is ateacher and like I get told that
these kids know more about thisunderworld shit that we, as an
adult, end up finding out in ouradult age.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
No, no, you'll be so surprised, like to a point where
, like we're, to a point wherewe don't even need to have the
talk with kids.
It's like, for some reason,they just find out like wait
what happened how did you know?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
to be honest, my mom never my mom never actually had
the talk with me.
It was one of those ones that,yeah, it was at school, it
happened at school.
It was one of those ones like Iit was at school, it happened
at school.
It was one of those ones like I.
I found my talk was when thekids just straight up asked me
one day jamie, are you a virgin?
I'm sitting here, I'm sixthgrade in middle school and just
asked me hey, are you a virgin?
And I'm like.
I said hey, I'm like.
I was like what the fuck bro,like?

(01:00:13):
Why are you asking me thisquestion right now?

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
of course I'm a virgin like you're still a
virgin.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
What do you mean?
Am I still You're not?

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
That's something you need to teach a therapist about
no, no.
It's like oh, if you haven'thad sex before high school, what
are you doing with your life?
I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Hold on a second.
Look, our lives did not gothrough what AIM, katara and
Sokka had to go through.
We didn't have to fight war.
Them kids deserved a drink Ifthey decided to have relations.
I think they was well withintheir rights.
To be honest with you, becausethe stuff that they dealt with
and there was no chance thatthey was going to make it out,
that's just one of those thingsthey needed that special jasmine

(01:00:56):
tea that oolong tea.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
You know what I mean, that oolong tea.
You know what I mean Like somesake, if you will.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
That nectar, that delicious nectar, and that is
one of the things that I don'tthink a lot of people don't
realize that same juice thatOsaka Drunk ended up.
You know that one scene when hewas just fucking bugging oh,
the cactus juice, yeah yo, I wasactually like I wanted to look

(01:01:28):
it up and see as to whether ornot, as to what is this in
reference to?
And I was like is thisayahuasca?
Is this peyote?
Is this any?
Is this like something that isfound in the real world?

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
And yes, yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
It's pretty much like cactus water Wine per se.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
It's like liquid LSD.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Yeah, yeah, that too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I'll go in a whole different direction.
I'm sorry.
I'm like whoa, wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Yeah, we're not talking about no hard drugs or
nothing like that.
That's pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
No, no, no like not even related to drugs.
But it was just a slip of thetongue, so don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
But for reals though it's like, but like Zuko had
about it.
But for reals though it's like,uh, but like, zuko had, like
these great moments and thenlike, so he had that also, that
moment with katara where he wasable to, you know, hunt down the
person that actually killedtheir mother, and that was such
a big thing for her.
She was like, oh, I need to getthis person, and that that
moment was big in the fact thatwe got a chance to see she had

(01:02:41):
that moment.
First off.
Remember, they found the.
We got a chance to see she hadthat moment.
First off, remember, they foundthe wrong guy.
When they found the wrong guy,that was when Zuko realized, oh,
she can bloodbend.
And he didn't question, he waslike shut up, this is on you, I
ain't got no business into thisone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Would you question that?
I wouldn't question that shit.
I feel uncomfortable If I findout you're a bloodbender.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry Koki.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
If I find out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
You're a bloodbender.
I'll be immediatelyuncomfortable.
I'll be clenching my body uplike Back away slowly Right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Keep in mind on this.
It's not even the fact thatZuko didn't know about
bloodbending, because they hadalready arrested the
bloodbending, because they hadalready arrested the
bloodbending witch.
They already had arrested herand it was already made known
amongst the Fire Nation thatthere was an area where there
was a lady that was bloodbendingand she was controlling Fire
Nation people.
So in his mind, oh, theycaptured her, they arrested her

(01:03:33):
and he's watching Katara do thisin front of him.
In his mind he's probablythinking, oh shit, that was her.
Oh shit, let me back up.
I'm going to back up.
I'm not going to say nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Am I chilling with a fugitive?
Is this?

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Is she going to be like a fugitive villain?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
someday.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
That part.
You really questioned that.
You were just like oh wait, Idon't know if I want to see this
.
Can you bend the blood outtheir body?
I don't know if I want to seethis like can you bend the blood
out their body too?
I don't know if I want to seethat like I'm ready for this,
but no that.
Look on his face.
He was shocked and he was like,get that serious.
He tried to go back quick onthat one.
I like the animation.
They did that like theyanimated him having a shot.

(01:04:15):
Look on his face like she justtwiddled her fingers and dude is
going on the ground like, oh mygod, my body, I can't control
it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
And I'm like, oh no, bro this is what the dark side
looks like in person imaginethat moment that you just like
and also think about this too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
He doesn't know how long she's been able to do this,
so imagine this moment.
He's like all them fights.
Did she throw the fight?
Has she been able to do thisall along?
And she's just been letting meget away Dang.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Maybe he was in immediate danger.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
I'm in danger, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
When she finally found the guy and the dude is
just withered old and she wasjust like you're not even worth
killing anymore, just live therest of your life knowing that I
could come back at any day, andoff you if I decide to do so,
but for right now you're justnot worth killing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
And then just bounces and bro Aang was like you know
what.
I'm so proud of you forforgiving that man and she was
like I don't forgive him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
He's just not worth my time that part and then he
had to question that moment.
He's like I'm pretty sure atthat moment and went through
what we went through.
You know we had talked aboutthe fact that while we all have
like this uh, particular femaletype that we've all been
interested in because you knowshe go and you know, you know we
have that, that type that welook for, I think at that moment

(01:05:40):
Aang probably experienced whatwe was going through.
He was like shit, wait, thatturned me on a little bit.
Hold on a second.
I don't know about this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
It's like the witchy vibes, not necessarily like goth
or whatever.
It's like, you know, the witchyvibes, you know like she's kind
of mysterious and a littlecrazy, or like she might know
some shit that might really giveyou nightmares and shit.
I'm like it sounds very darkbut also so tempting Right right

(01:06:12):
.
Just like oh, it's almost likeyou know how deep the rabbit
hole goes, but you're just likefuck it, I'm dying.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
I'm gonna die then.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Yo just imagine, like Aang, accidentally forgetting
an anniversary, and then shejust bloods out.
She just bloods out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
She's like going crazy, like she got the hair
down and shit, like she's reallychanneling that blood witch
vibe oh, from understandings,like from what we understand in
legend of korra, like from whatthe their kids have talked about
.
There was moments that they hadsome fights and them fights was
not nice.
So it was like, yeah, theydidn't always get along.

(01:06:58):
They had some moments that waslike, and I was, and I was like
dang, how bad did an avatar anda master ward have been?
No, that probably went bad.
Ooh, I can't imagine.
Freeze your dick off, try me.
Ugh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Ugh, that's the first warning Right there.
Just ooh, wait a second.
The second one is nitrogenfreeze, and that's it.
I'm just fucking ripping rightoff.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
That part is just ugh .
No, I'm sorry, I think I madeJB cringe too hard.
He was like wait a second.
Remember, all these abilitiesare OP If you ever decide to
actually like.
If you, if these people werestreet fighting, like top top is
a street fighter, top swipe,top swipe the ground from
beneath people's feet to win afight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
she did that, so she, she was ready to win a fight,
she didn't care one of thethings that I was surprised that
she didn't do at the end wasbloodbend.
And but here's the thing to allher opponents why can't she
just like bloodbend to the pointwhere it just gives everybody a
charlie horse and they're justincapable of fighting?

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
because she's so scared of doing so, yeah, she's
still really scared of doing so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
So it's like she's so scared of doing so.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Yeah, she's still really scared of doing so.
So it's like it doesn't affecther directly, yeah.
But here's the thing.
It's like, uh, even if it'slike a very, very control form
of bloodbending to her, it'slike it doesn't really hurt
anybody, but more like just giveher the edge.
It's more like, yeah, she'llprobably be doing that, but then
eventually it's almost like Idon't know, it just feels like a
slippery slope.
So we feel like once you do it,once it's like it's kind of

(01:08:44):
like a drug.
It's like you just can't stopflipping.
It's like the literal bloodlesswould kick in I would probably
even compare it to like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
So there's the um, the show that I was watching,
the dragon prince, that you know, season six has now been
announced and stuff.
There was a thing into thatwhere I had mentioned into my
podcast episode y'all pleaselisten to that that literally
dark magic, where literally wasthe point of like, once you've
been tainted by dark magic, onceyou're tempted to do it again
and it's like no, matter howmuch, no matter how much the

(01:09:15):
main character was trying toresist, resist, resist.
Because he did it once, he woundup having to tap into it again.
He found himself in a situationwhere he was like he had to do
it again and it permanentlydamages your soul.
It's like one of those thingsof just like the fact that I can
do it.
It's one thing to know that youcan do something, but if you
can do it and you've done itonce and got away with it, then

(01:09:43):
it's like it stays in the backof your mind, mind tainted, that
I could do it again.
And you're constantly battlingthat because if you succumb to
that even one more time, you'regonna do it again and then I see
your example and I raise youone example that we should all
know by now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Proto and the one ring yeah yeah, most broto knew.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
At that point he was just like, yeah, this ring got
going to the lava.
I finally caved in.
He caved in at the very lastmoment.
It's the worst moment.
All this time you went likewhat was it?
Three weeks, three weeks, younever caved and all of a sudden,
that time you're like um, andmaybe just this one or if it was
a I think it was an accidentthe first time wasn't it it just

(01:10:24):
flipped on by accident when itwas in the tavern.
Yeah, yeah, it slipped on byaccident.
Even then, he wasn't tainted.
He wasn't tainted by the powerof it.
He like, he wasn't tainteduntil it was right about to be
destroyed.
It was that moment of finallyrealization oh, it can be
destroyed.
It's going to be gone forever.
Oh no, it's going to be goneforever.
You know, I never tried out thepower like I really wanted to
like, maybe just one time like.

(01:10:45):
No, bro, that's not the time.
You resisted all the timeanyway I raise you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
you know, just to, just to go back on that, I will
also raise you.
Um, let's see here how much Ihave.
I'll raise you in nuh-uh.
I'll fucking go nuts if I haveto shit Dark powers.
Give me that shit.
I've already said it beforeDon't give me superpowers.

(01:11:19):
There are two options here.
I become like I straight upbecome a villain, or I'm an
anti-hero.
I'll probably say bias.
Yes, I mean, I don't wantpeople to get hurt.
But to be honest, if I'm stuckin traffic and I have the
capability to lift up a car andthrow it, and at this point if I

(01:11:41):
can lift up a car and throw it,and at this point if I can lift
up a car and throw it, I canpick myself up and just fly.
But if I can just pick up a carand throw it, don't give me
superpowers.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
The temptation is going to be to throw somebody
else's car just because, likeyes, the realization afterwards,
oh, I could have done thisafterwards.
No, but the human mind of I'mupset, and when you get upset,
your immediate reaction is tohurt someone else yeah, you're
gonna throw that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I am not a firm believer of with great power
comes great responsibility.
I love Spider-Man very much.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
I love his beliefs you'd be more like Venom.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
The way we see it, we can do whatever we want, pretty
much I'll straight up be likefucking deadpool bro, just
fucking, it's a bad guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
No, no, you can't you can't use that one.
Yeah, I'll say, punisher I was.
You can't use deadpool becausedeadpool did have that.
Since we're moving fromspider-man to deadpool, deadpool
did have that moment where hedawned on peter parker's like
mask or he even also didn't helike.
He took off the mask andcovered his eyes so he could
keep the identity secret andstuff, and still wound up doing
things the way that peter wantedto do it.

(01:12:53):
Even though he had thecapability of doing much worse,
he still respected that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
So I wouldn't necessarily go full-on deadpool,
example per se, switching fromSpider-Man, not that way but I
can see the point and this iswhy you can't give me
Earthbending mixed with someelements, because I will
guarantee you I will crumblethis planet going back into
Earthbending Zuko and Toph, thatmoment where everybody was

(01:13:21):
against Zuko and Toph, thatmoment where everybody was
against Zuko and Toph.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
went to go and find him and accidentally got burned.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Ah, yeah, yeah, she got so scared.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
I wish this was fair, but she did.
Can't everyone calm down?
She said it was a mistake.
I kind of snuck up on him.
I didn't let y'all know that Iwas going over there.
Nobody knew I was going overthere.
Nobody knew I was going overthere.
I just went over there bymyself.
So really it's my own fault andI'm glad that she would, being
the youngest and being thewisest in that Moment of being
able to be like.
I can own Up that it was mymistake.

(01:13:53):
Stop Pandering him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Yeah.
I just dug out even Todd'sparents like oh, she's just a
Frail little girl, we need to goRescue her.
And then why don't you come uphere and see my face?
You know she was ready to scrap, so I'm like the parallel.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
If Toph could cuss.
If Toph could cuss, this wholeseries would be a whole
different thing.
I can imagine saying all typesof words to be honest with you
let me see you fucking try

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Avatar, the Last Intervenor that we could talk
about yeah, I think I went overlike Zuko with everyone, but
still, yeah, like just thosemoments that he had with
everybody was amazing.
Well, zuko and Momo technicallywe can.
Moments that he had witheverybody was amazing.
Well, zuko and Momo technically.
We can't deny Momo being acharacter.
Momo is his Momo.
He's one of the best charactersin the show.
He lightens the mood all thetime or knocks some sense into

(01:14:54):
somebody when they need it, likeKrogon from the One Pokemon I
forgot which season series itwas when Krogon wound up showing
up and having to like poisonpawn Brock every single time he
was trying to go off on a chick,he was like, ah, bring that
back ah, I'm trying to thinkthat had to be like the black
and white era of Pokemon.

(01:15:17):
I think it was black and white.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
I'm pretty sure Krogon was either 4th or 5th gen
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
I do remember that was on that one time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
No, it was 4th gen Because it was with the one time
when they Was chatting up WithCynthia and Crowgun.
You know, brock was hitting onCynthia, of course, but then
Crowgun showed up, took one lookAt Cynthia she was like smiling
.
I'm like you know what, brock,I'm gonna let you have this one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
He was like, oh, hold on a second, you might have
picked a good one.
I'm gonna back up on this one.
You got this.
Go ahead, it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Do y'all remember when Aang was trying to Better
learn how to use the avatarState and he ends up meeting the
Guru in one of the temples?
Y'all remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Yeah, I was just talking about where he was
trying to master the AvatarState but he bailed on his
training when he realized that,oh, he has to give up his
attachment to Qatar and peoplein general.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Yeah, no, he could have just done both, yeah no,
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
He eventually did both, but that was just kind of
the point, the fact that he gaveup power and perfection for the
sake of love, because, at theend of the day, aang is still a
kid, you know, he's he may be112 years old, but he's still a
kid, so it's like he don'treally care for power that much,

(01:16:51):
like he just wanted to live apeaceful life before all this
shit went down and then theavatar um role just got thrusted
upon him.
So, in actuality, if Aangwasn't the Avatar, he's just a
regular kid that just want tohave friends, like you know
develop crushes on girls and allthat.
So like, aside from being theAvatar, he's not that far off

(01:17:13):
from being a normal kid, so yougot to give him a little bit
more grace than that that's true, but you know, we were.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
we were kids during this time and we're receiving
all of this wisdom and all ofthis like positive mental
reinforcement while watchingthis episode.
And I'm just a kid and I'mseeing this and I'm like, wow,
this is about to change myentire life right, right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
I feel like it helped us mature even more.
Like all of a sudden, we justwe watched.
Like once you finished and wefinally watched it, we walked
back in the school like thatperson that was always
aggravating you, you just hadthat moment being like, no, I am
calm, I am going to dispowerall the this animosity that you
have towards me and ignore itand be able to move forward as I

(01:18:02):
grace myself in my avatar state.
Probably not even that much,I'm just being extra, but I'm
just saying and then the kids atschool start bullying.
You smack don't say that weirdass shit, crazy enough.
I will say avatar lastairbender was the one show that
I did not get bullied for.
I got bullied on for dragonball z yuyu haka show in yasha.

(01:18:26):
I got bullied.
I even got bullied on sailormoon.
I'm not even a big sailor moonfan.
Like I watched it.
I'm not like a big fan into it.
I got bullied into that one too.
So I was like bro, how?

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
just leave me alone.
Digimon for me, like if it wasdragon ball Z.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
They would have backed me up, nah I got picked
off.
For Dragon Ball Z too.
It was just like oh, you justwant to be Japanese so bad.
You just want to be in anime sobad, bruh like, so what?
I would prefer being there Thanbeing here listening to you
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
I'm like man, reality is bullshit yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
I'm like bruh, let's be honest.
I yeah, I'm like, bro, let's behonest.
Would I be doing that if I hadall these special powers?
Or would I be sitting herebreathing in your hot breath
because you decided I'm too coolto brush my teeth this morning?
I ain't got time for this, bro.
I'm so aggravated.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
I mean you're picking on me for liking Dragon Ball Z,
but your breath smells like ithas a black Belt in karate.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Like, at some point you gotta let it rest, you gotta
do something.
Have you heard of breath mint?
Do you know that there's athing called a Lysol?

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Hey man, look, this is a little box here called tic
tacs.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
You know, you know keep it, I think the best one.
That was like literally someonehad went to tic tacs, like, oh
man, I meant to give you thisbox.
They put they kept the emptybox of tic tacs specifically for
this joke and it was hilarious.
It was like nah, I meant togive you a tic tac, but
apparently your breath was sobad, all the tic tacs ran away
and I was like nah, I meant togive you a tic-tac, but

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apparently your breath was sobad.
All the tic-tacs ran away and Iwas like, wow, damn.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
I like that one.
There was one that I heardwhere this guy went yo yo breath
smells like a dirty soft fullof nickels and that shit.
That shit hurt me.
I wasn't even part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
That shit hurt me that it should be a finisher
move in Mortal Kombat that part.
I'm like man kids were likefucking savage with the roast.
I'm like man see, this is whyI'm kind of.
I'm almost glad that I grew upthe way that I grew up because

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it's like bro, I got roasted andpicked on For so many different
things.
I'm to a Point where, comparedto Some of these softies out
here, I'm like hey man, like Ify'all can't get roasted.
Like once I'm like Y'all gonnahave to get some Thick skin, my
dudes like.
Sometimes, like you just gottaroll with the punches.
Sometimes you Gotta tellyourself you know what, y'all

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gonna have to get some thickskin, my dudes like.
Sometimes Sometimes you guysTell yourself you know what?
To an extent I kind of deservedit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Yep To an extent Okay .

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
In my personal experience.
To a degree I kind of did hadit coming.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Okay, mine wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
These people are just assholes.
It's straight up savage, onlyin hindsight, though.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
At first I was like Just leave me alone, dog.
And then, you know, growing upyou was like you know what man.
I can't even be mad at thepeople that picked on me,
because I kind of brought it onmyself, you know, like wearing
high Waters and all that type ofshit.
I'm like you know what.
I can't be too mad.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Well, I don't think I have anything else.
The only thing that I wouldprobably even mention is the
fact that we also got reallygreat backgrounds for the show.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
My cabbages.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
That part Every fighting style, every bending
style.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Always, Even to this day.
People would just know mycabbages, you fall, my cabbages,
oh no.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
I'm just ready for it .
That shit hit so many seasonsand I was surprised at that
running joke.
They kept it going for so longand anybody who was a fan.
They'll be like oh shit, no.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
One for each head of cabbage, you would see him and
you would know the line wasgonna come.
Even if it didn't come at thatmoment, it could have came like
later on, towards the end of theepisode, but you knew at some
point it was gonna pop up.
So apparently they, the writers, thought the joke was old.
It was like this went oldbefore the first season.
Like the first three times theyused it so it was like, oh yeah
, after that it's kind of old.

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But then they started seeingpeople was like making things
about it and it was just like mycabbages.
And then it went to conventionsand it was just like my
cabbages and it was just like,oh yeah, they realized.
They said okay, so apparentlypeople love this joke and
decided to continue doing it.
It wound up being one of thefew jokes that, although it is
old, it's still funny enoughthat people still do it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
I mean, think about it.
Chances are, if you're a fan ofavatar the last inventor, you
might have been around for uhlike golden age spongebob, to
where you know.
Uh, yeah, my leg and I was likebro like you, underestimate how
simplistic some fans are.
It's like you give themsomething to Attach themselves

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to, they will run that joke tothe ground.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
My kids love it.
Like straight up I literallywent to McDonald's.
They had like the littleSpongeBob toy and it was
literally Like my daughterliterally got that's the one
that she wound up getting.
It was just a little ball thing, like the little character.
When you knock them over theyjust beam back up again, type of
thing, like the little gravitystand toy.
But it was Fred and I was justlike oh.

(01:23:51):
I was like, oh, it's the Myletguy.
She was like Mylet.
I said, yeah, exactly, thereyou go.
Everyone knows Fred.
That one episode.
They were like huh, you didn'tbreak your leg today, fred.
You usually always break it.
He's like I know right and itdidn't, and then at the very end
of the episode he breaks hisleg.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
They eat the lime bread.
My leg, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
We were saying this that time.
I'm so sorry no, you're good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
It sucks that, like only very few people of our
generation understands thesereferences, and that hurts yeah,
it does, it does.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
But the only other thing is like so yeah, every
fighting style is based off ofsome type of real life martial
art and they did a great jobanimating it, because they
actually had people who practicethese martial arts do it in the
studio so they could draw themdoing this in order to animate
all of those fight scenes.
All this was done on purpose.
The mocap was fucking fun.

(01:24:57):
Actually.
No, that's the thing.
A lot of it wasn't even mocap,this was hand drawn.
Yeah, they just had the peopledoing it in front of them and
they were just drawing.
It was hand-drawn animation.
So all those fight scenes isnot cgi, straight up, all
hand-drawn and it's like it'sabsolutely so literally the
beauty of it in the fact thatunderstanding that too and

(01:25:18):
you're just like fucking amazing, um, amazing, disney could
never.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Anyway, don't tell that to Disney let's be real as
far as like Disney TV shows likethey were playing a little too
safe when to act let's talkabout Disney fight.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Scenes non-existent anyway, so let's talk about
Disney fight scenes non-existent.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
anyway, let's talk about it.
Okay, thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Exactly.
That's all we have to say aboutit.
They're non-existent.
If you can find one Disney show, don't go to Marvel, don't go
to Shang-Chi, don't even go toShang-Chi.
I'm talking about just straightDisney animated shows.
Give me a fight scene from aDisneyney animated show don't

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exist, but anyway from americandragon shake long.
They have right things.
But then the second seasoncompletely cut all that off
because the audience was toosensitive and the audience hated
it because the audience was notsensitive and the audience
hated it because the audiencewas not sensitive.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
You know what?
Once again, I'm so glad I grewup as a cartoon network kid
because so that's fine, I'llgive you that one.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Okay, fine, we have one.
And they killed it in thesecond season.
That was non-existent in thesecond season.
Second season was nothing butthem flying around shooting
fireballs at each other.
That was it.
There was no hand-in-handcombat.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
Did you watch the Yang-Yao Disney show?
Nope, cartoon.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Network.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
No, it was different on Cartoon Network, maybe on Fox
, like Jetix or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
Oh yeah, it was Jetix , because I remember Yang Yang
Yo came on right after SuperRobot Monkey Team Hunger Force.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Yeah, I mean, come on See, that's the thing.
You had to go real.
You had to be like Fucking inthe trenches to find an example,
but that's what I'm saying.
The action is so lost when itcomes to Disney, they play it so
safe, so Nickelodeon Cartoon.
Network had fight scenes lost.
When it comes to Disney, it'slike hey, play it so safe.
I'm like man.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
So Nickelodeon, cartoon Network had fight scenes
.
That's what people fuckingloved about it.
So, yes, avatar, last Airbender, teenage Mutant Ninja, turtles,
nickelodeon I mean CartoonNetwork, had it for a short
period of time but it wound upgoing.
They sold it to Nickelodeon.
For whatever dumb reason,whatever dumb reason, whatever

(01:27:42):
dumb reason they sold thenickelodeon.
But, um, yeah, nickelodeon hadfight scenes just saying we
loved action.
That's just what it was.
So there.
But yeah, like all that washand drawn so amazing onto that.
The other thing is theunderstanding also of the white
Lotus.
The white Lotus was based ontoa real thing, not off the real
white Lotus, the real whiteLotus and earth is not the
Illuminati type shit, nothingthat it was put to be in the
show, but understanding that itwas.

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It was meant to be a network ofpeople who wanted peace.
The white Lotus never reallywanted to interfere in life.
It was just a way for everybodyto exchange information.
It was supposed to be just themplaying a game, playing the
board game that they wereplaying and then being able to
just enjoy tea.
One of the things about Iroh'sasphyxiation for tea and him

(01:28:26):
having a very specific tea thathe really likes, the Jasmine tea
was because that was theprimary tea of the White white
lotus.
I'm not going to go into thatbecause one that would take
entirely too long.
That's entirely the whole thingfor itself.
And plus on top of that, somany other people have done
youtube videos on tour.
You're more than welcome tolook into that if you really
want to dive into the whitelotus and into the kung fu
martial arts.
You can see videos ofinterviews and stuff like that

(01:28:46):
is amazing.
I'd encourage you to watch it.
Oh, I have to.
You can see videos ofinterviews and stuff like that
is fucking amazing.
I'd encourage you to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Oh, I'm happy after you can I recommend cinema
therapy for doing a uh analysison zuko like?

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
because, it's good it is zuko and iroh.
And I love the iron one becausethe dude was like it was a
competition to see if he wasgoing to be a better therapist
than Iroh and he was like, look,nah, he got me beat he said I
can't compete.
He's like I agree witheverything he says.
There's nothing wrong that hesaid it's all correct.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Uncle Iroh was getting mugged, and then he got
un-mugged and then he became atherapist no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Duke got mugged and then showed him how to do it
correctly he was like let meshow you how to properly mug
somebody?
Since you did not, I was likehow, how damn badass is you into
that?
Did you just like hold on,you're mugging me wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
no, no, hold on real quick before I forget.
Can we talk about how, inseason three, when Iroh got
locked up and all that, and Zukowas visiting him you know the
Fire Nation people was visitinghim.
You're like, oh man, you knowhe used to be a great general,
but now he's just a crazy oldman.
But as soon as they all leavehe's like take off the role.
He got fucking jacked.

(01:30:06):
He was doing fucking all that.
Hey yo man, you got that hardbody.
Now you got that prison body.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
I'm not fucking with Iroh.
There's a quote that somebodyhas said before and it was like
nah.
This ain't it.
It was like nah, but Iroh isthat one?
Men want to be men.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Do we have connection problems?

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Uh, yeah, uh Wait for it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
I moved my phone Just oh lord, what happened?
You cut off.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Yeah, you got cut off .
You were about to say what Iwas saying about.
Iros where.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
I was saying IRO pretty much already got that Riz
.
I guess I moved the wrong way.
I don't know.
Stuff happens, technology.
Maybe it's my phone telling meI've been on too long, who knows
?

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
No, you got like at least 13 minutes, yeah, but I
feel odd, because people keepmentioning the word Riz and I
don't know what that means.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
Swag it's the new word for swag.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Well, Riz is more like short for charisma.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Riz Charisma.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
You're pulling up all the girls, pulling up all the
hoes type thing is that whyeveryone's calling it a higher
risk?
Yep, literally.
I want you to understand mostpeople.
The bad part about it is isthat the same kids who use it
will get upset when you be likeit's really a dnd reference that
you're using and they're likeit's really a D&D reference that

(01:31:51):
you're using and they're likeno, it's not.
No, it really is.
It's literally a D&D referencethat you're using Someone who
plays.
D&D made it popular, and youjust don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
I like how Gravity Falls had a D&D episode and then
Grunkle Stan like, fucking,like I want to say he literally
killed Some D&D player spirits.
But the fact that he said that,bro, only nerds think that
charisma Is a fucking Superpower, I'm like wow, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Yo, I'll fucking, I'll run up on him right now and
I'll beat his ass, cause mostof my builds Of D&D consists
with charisma, cause you getbetter shit when you have good
charisma.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
Honestly what I think .
Charisma.
I think what it originally was.
It wasn't just the ability ofpulling people or something like
that.
Charisma was the ability totalk to people, it was the
ability to be able to haveconversation.
That's just really what it was.
It was that moment like I canliterally just run up and talk
to people.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
It's like you're just so natural with this, like it's
like a flowing river andwhatnot, like god damn, he's so
cold with it many of the times,with the modifiers and with the
advantages, you can talk to thisperson and this person likes
you so much that they'll be like, hey, don't go anywhere, I'll
be right back, and then theygive you something that either

(01:33:25):
you need or it was something youwanted, or something that is
going to help you in yourmission.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Later on, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Here's a perfect example of how.
I was faced when we were doingthe Cat Williams review and then
MJ was like saying, oh man, Ineed to find a man that can meet
my sex drive.
And then I was like pulling aHoles reference and be like, hey
, I can fix that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
I can fix that right up.
I do remember, because I waslike dang, you said you dropped
your shot right there.
I was like, without missing thebeat, you hit that on point.
I was like homeboy rolled a nat20 on that straight off the bat
.
I was like the homeboy rolled anat 20 on that thing straight
off the bat.
I was like, wait a second.

(01:34:14):
Jb.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
See, that's what I'm saying.
Like you gotta have to give thegap.
You just know how to talk tothe ladies.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
I was like bro, he hit that so quick though.
I was like okay, wait a second.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
I hit her with a Keith Sweat voice.
I was like welcome to the Zonepodcast.
Stay, have a seat.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Stay for a while, take some sake, take some cactus
juice, just relax.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Sit back, we'll have a conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
I wish he was here right now, bro, for real.
Oh gosh, saka wishes he had aizSokka would be trying.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Sokka got.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Riz like he did, cause all of a sudden Suki, the
moon spirit girl like bruh.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Even Ty Lee was like hey, cutie.
I was like what was she?
The lady's feeling me, though?

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
and we not talking about Legend of Korra, but that
moment that people reallyspeculate that one of Toph's
kids is actually Sokka's andit's like yeah, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
You know what, I never doubted it.
To be honest, I feel like theyconfirmed that that's wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
They actually, the writers specifically confirmed
that that's wrong, like they.
Actually the writerspecifically confirmed that that
was wrong.
But the other people was likenah, the way you wrote to her
wasn't the one that had themetal bending academies, that's
the one that they were just like.
That has to be.
It has to be Sokka's talk.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Well, toph, at one point during Legend of Korra
they were talking about how,what was the father?
And it was like, oh, it wasjust some guy that I met.
And she herself confirmed itwas like, no, it was not Sokka.
So nothing ever happenedbetween them.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Oh, can I give y'all another example.
I got another example for you.
I just remember I was hangingout with some friends At one of
these restaurants that Not thereanymore, but man, it was a
Popular place, at least for usand essentially me and my
Friends.
There was this Waitress andessentially they were trying to
like talk to her and she waslike, oh well, I can't really

(01:36:35):
stick around, you know, I gottakeep it moving, you know what
not?
And then I was like, hey, ifyou ever feel like getting in
trouble, have a seat and talk tous good lord, almighty bro, you
don't hesitate to drop a wristbomb at all.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
You just be like alright, time to roll.
See what I got.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
See, this is why I don't be flirting All too much,
because I'm like, bro, I'll putgame on you, so cold like I
don't play Games when I'm like,if I'm interested, I'm on you
like Syrup on pancakes.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Ladies and gentlemen, our leader is a real life bard
who, straight up, can pass upmusical numbers and just starts
flirting with the ladiesStraight up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
And here I am just sitting here, just happy that I
have a wife and I was able topull that shit.
I'm just sitting here justhappy that I have a wife and I
was able to pull that shit.
I'm just lucky dude, I was justlucky to be there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Sometimes that's all it takes.
Man Just be at the right placeat the right time.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
Look, look, look.
I'm going to tell you thisstory.
This is how it worked out forme and my wife.
This is a funny thing, bro.
Me and my wife were goingthrough some bad breakups.
She said that she needed a weekto just let off some steam.
I was like I want to be part ofthat week to let off some steam

(01:38:03):
.
That's how it worked out.
Here we are married, five kids.
It worked.
She shot us.
There you go, it worked shootyour shots.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Hey, there you go actually, you know what I'm
gonna put it to you like this,because this is something that
I've been observing for a whilenow.
I am a believer of thehandkerchief theory.
Here's the thing you know how,most of the time it's the dude
that gotta shoot his shot first,because you know like girl's
not gonna be so direct about it,right?
But back in the day I forgotwhich era exactly, maybe like

(01:38:36):
the 20s, somewhere between the20s and the 50s, I don't know.
It was like old school.
But essentially, you know howthose girls are, with like the
dresses and whatnot They'll havelike handkerchiefs and whatnot.
A guy they're kind of digging,you know, with a fan and shit,
hoping that the dude would comeup be like hey, ma'am, I think
you dropped this.
If she's not like giving youthe signal that she want you to

(01:38:59):
talk to her, I would say youknow, play it safe, but if she's
dropping the handkerchief onyou, shoot your chop fam I'm too
stupid for that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
I am literally too stupid for that shit.
That would not work on me.
You gotta straight up come upto talk to me, cause I am
literally too stupid to figurethat shit out.
I'll be like, hey, you droppedyour, you dropped your
handkerchief.
I could be like oh my god,thank you so much.
What's your name?
Oh, my name, okay cool, it'slike Thomas Mash.

(01:39:31):
Peace, I gotta go.
I gotta, I gotta go home andfinish my bionicle set well,
that's another thing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
That's another thing.
You don't want to make it tooeasy, because if you're too
eager it's a kind of a turner.
It's almost like a cat andmouse kind of game, to where
it's like sometimes you gottagive them a little bit and then
eventually you know, when it'spretty obvious y'all kind of
feeling each other.
Then I would say you know, likeprogress it, but don't be like
waiting way too long, like don'tdo that whole shit for too long

(01:40:02):
, otherwise they just gonna feellike you're just not all the
answers, you're just playinggames.
You're not trying to play games, it's just more you're trying
to ascertain the level ofinterest, because you're not a
fan of having your time wasted,right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
I didn't think so yeah, I am literally too stupid.
I asked my wife I am.
I was literally too stupid topick up on whatever signal she
was throwing me at when we werefirst dating.
I was literally too stupid topick up on that shit and up to
this day she'll still mentionthe stupid shit that I did

(01:40:39):
during one of our dates.
She'll still throw it at me andshe'll be like you never caught
it.
You never caught that signalthat I was throwing at you.
You never picked up on it Holdon.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
I won't even put in that, I won't fully put in that
aspect.
Now, I'll be honest, I don'tknow your wife, but I know for a
fact that there are some ladieswho will throw a signal out
there, but a lot of times thatsignal is like a level 25 boss
and you're only like level 10,bro.
You're like look.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
It was normally possible.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
I you like.
Look, it was no way possible.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
I was gonna get that, bro like I got so used to
having hints thrown at me to apoint where I'm like
overthinking and over analyzing.
To a point where, like not, toa point where, like you know, is
she kind of interested?
No, no, no, it was like yougotta gauge that level of
interest.
To a point to where I'm like,is she in pressure or is she

(01:41:34):
just being friendly?
It's like it took me a while tolike piece it together to where
, like, I'm, to a point to whereI started researching shit.
To where I'm like, from now on,when I see certain signs and
signals, I'm like, okay, thatdoesn't mean go ahead and pursue
, but more like gauge you alittle bit.
It's like, is she just playing?

(01:41:55):
around with you, you know, in afun way, or is she really trying
to, like trying to fuck withyou?
Because, bro, believe me, onceyou get to a point to where you
have girls telling other people,oh yeah, that's my boyfriend,
even though I never even had afucking conversation with her
before, that's how you know.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
I mean that's when it's in your face.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
I don't know about that I would be literally too
stupid enough to even pick thatshit up.
And Zaka just only exists.
Zaka only exists.
And all the girls are like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean,
everybody likes a funny guyexists.
Saka only exists.
And all the girls are like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
I mean okay, everybody likes a funny guy, so
let's put it in that aspect.
The girls really like the funnyguys.
That's pretty much why theyalways kept going after me.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
I was the quiet guy that was like man, I am not
trying to be bothered, why?
Why can't y'all?
I'm not looking for arelationship, why can't y'all
just leave me alone?
And the problem is I wasn'tbeing rude about it, just more
like, um, I'm sorry, I'm kind oflooking for a way to say I'm
not all that interested.
But it's not personal.
You know, I was young so I waslike.

(01:43:03):
I was just like okay, I'll beas friendly as possible, but at
the same time I got that wordthat says I'm not really trying
to be bothered, so all I.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
I got that war that says I'm not really trying to be
bothered.
All I need to do is just showthem my Magic the Gathering
collection immediately.
Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
But, guys, let me go ahead and get off.
All the advice for all youpeople who already have, who
understand me and St Thomas Mash, we already have, we're married
, we have kids.
Everything that JB was talkingabout is, for you guys, real
simple, so I'll just let y'allknow.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
Yeah, for the single pringles out there.
With that being said, we'regoing to go ahead and wrap this
up anyways.
As far as Avatar, the LastEndbredder, like I said, a plus
material, go watch it, go watchit, go watch it.
It might.
No, I think it's still onNetflix.
It's still going to be onNetflix.
Yeah, go watch it on Netflix ifyou will.

(01:43:57):
With that being said, you knowthe drill already.
Follow us on social media ifyou want to Remember to stay
nerdy.
Great things are coming we'rezoning out here.
So have a good day, goodafternoon, good evening
depending on what time you'relistening to this and just take
it easy, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
And good night.

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