Bleach: The Xtreme Review (Part 1: Seasons 1-4)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
what's good, nerds?
It's jet black extreme.
And welcome back to the zonepodcast, the show where we like
to talk about non-classic anime.
That deserves its flowers.
Today we're gonna do a redux onthe bleach extreme review that
we tried to do years before,like we kind of fell off not

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going a lot.
There was like a whole bunch ofthings going on, like whether
it's like personal things, orthere were so many new things
that we could be reviewing, butnow it just got lost in sauce.
So we're gonna try again.
This time we're gonna make it alittle bit more fast paced.
So, without further ado, let'stalk about the first four

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seasons of the anime, whichwould be the substitute Soul
Reaper arc, the Soul Society arcand half of the Bounce arc.
But honestly, I'm going to beperfectly honest with you I do
not give a fuck.
I watched it, but I just don'tcare for it.
It's a self-contained story andit's not bad, but once again, I

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just don't care for it.
Like it's a self-containedstory and it's like it's not bad
, but once again, I just don't.
It's a bleach equivalent ofvampire art.
Well, at least it's better thanTwilight, I'll give it that.
But anyways, let's go ahead andget into the Subtlue Soul
Reaper art.
So essentially, with this art,it's introducing characters like
Ichigo, rukia, uryu, orihimeChie.

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They are high school studentsWell, it's not Rukia, of course.
They are, for the most part,high school students with the
ability to see ghosts.
And with Ichigo, his lifechanged dramatically when he
becomes a substitute soul reaper, gaining the power to protect
the living from evil spiritsknown as hollows.

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Uh, rukia, who's a soul reaperfrom the soul society, lends her
power to ichigo, becomes hismentor of sorts, a close friend,
guiding him through the newresponsibilities that he had
being a substitute soul reaperwhile dealing with her own
struggles.
Uryu, a Quincy, who's adescendant of a line of hollow

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hunters, pretty much like soulreapers and initially views
Ichigo as a rival, but over timethey become allies, working
together to combat threats.
Orihime, ichigo's classmate andfriend, possessing unique
healing abilities, which hasbecome very crucial in helping
her friends during battles, andbecome even more crucial when we

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get to part two of our streamreview.
We'll get to that later.
Uh, and then we have chad, thehollow with a heart.
I'll explain that later, buthe's another one of each go's
friends who develops spiritualpowers and is fiercely loyal and
use his strength to protectothers.
Now there's more othercharacters.
That was introduced in thesocial garage substitute soul

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reaper art sorry and honestlylike they're cool, but yeah,
I'll just leave.
Uh, open that up to the paneljust a little bit.
But essentially the vibe forthe substitute soul reaper arc
was that Ichigo received hispowers, he battles the various
hollows, learning about hispowers, and then you have this

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whole thing about why Ryu hatessoul reapers and what not.
I didn't have a whole lot to sayabout the sub two-story arc
other than the fact they justgave me the vibes, like I mean,
I think yui hakusho did it firstfor me but essentially that
introductory art to where, okay,monster of the week or some

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type shit, but ultimately it'sabout introducing new characters
, bringing in the world,building like what's going to be
going on, um, the overall vibeand tone of the series and I
thought it was pretty good.
But of course it really getscooking when we get to the soul

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society art.
So before we talk about thatart, let's it up to the panel,
which is why I'm glad I haveKogayasu and Talos Gundam on for
this one.
Let's start it off with Talos.
How you feeling about Bleach asa whole so far?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Hey, so you want to get my honest opinion of Bleach
as a whole?
Alright, cool.
To sum it up, bleach as a wholefucking awesome, absolutely
awesome.
Bleach as a whole is awesome.
It's one of the animators.

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In my opinion.
I consider it to be the bigthree, one of the anime.
That's in my opinion I considerto be the big three, one of the
big three.
I know a lot of people will belike that's debatable here and
there, especially how it is withstuff, because everybody's like
, oh, this is big three here.
This is it when I consider bigthree.

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Big three for me was Bleach.
Naruto One Piece.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Hold on, I believe that too.
But here's my thing.
This might be a hot take, butBleach, for me, is the bronze
medal by default.
Now hear me out, I say it's thebronze medal by default.
Now hear me out.
I'd say it's the bronze medalby default because with one
piece, you're not taking awaythe fact that it is the

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best-selling manga of all time.
Not only that, but it has aanime adaptation that's running
just about as long as the manga,like getting close to it.
And even though, yeah, they hadgames and what not, of course
there's a whole bunch of peoplethat would be like, oh, it's too

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long, and I don't like the art,whatever.
Whatever, it's still good, nodoubt.
And with Naruto, I would sayit's like the most popular
choice out of the three.
I mean not to say that bleachisn't good, but it's more like,
let's just be real.
In mainstream media, uh, you'remore likely to see one piece and

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naruto references over bleach.
Like you have to be, likereally in the know, like it's
almost like how you have to belike consider og, if you still
remember anime like inuyasha.
Uh, like, how, like.
Uh, there was this one post Isaw where they were saying oh,

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uh, name, like some store users,and I just listed up inuyasha
and um shishomaru just off thetop of my head because I knew
people gonna be like basic about, oh, kirito and zoro and
whatnot.
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,sure, sure, sure.
But like, hey, man, thinkoutside the box that's what I'm

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saying to where, like, you'reprobably not gonna see A whole
bunch of that, but what was Igetting with this?
With Naruto, it's the mostpopular choice Because you know,
it's the one thing when damnnear everybody Watches it and
everybody talks about.
But also you gotta consider thefact that they have the

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strongest line of video gamesout of the three.
Like with one piece, yeah, likethey had like that dynasty
warriors version of um one pieceand that was okay.
But like, out of the three, outof the big three, naruto had
the games on lock with ninjastorm and ultimate ninja and all

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that other shit.
Uh, even now where it's likethey have naruto storm
connections but like that'sgonna get overshadowed by
sparking zero right now.
But uh, bleach, like it's afive star anime.
No doubt it is big three, butlike I'm gonna be honest with
you, in comparison to like aoverall nerd community influence

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, like.
It's more like one of thoseshows where if thousand year
blood war didn't get animated,it would have been forgotten
about.
That's, that's the main thinglike.
That's why I was saying likewith one piece.
Luffy never sleeps.
So you're gonna hear about onepiece, whether you like or not.
With naruto it's like becauseof the games and whatnot.
That's not just the games, butyou know, if they still wasn't

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making games nerds, well, evenwith boruto let me not discount
boruto like but if they stoppedat shippuden and still um
stopped making games, thennaruto would have been gotten
out of the way.
That's why I would say with onepiece, because it's kept
ongoing even with the story, ifthey had no sequel.

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It's okay, I'm gonna startrambling right now we're gonna.
We're trying to talk aboutbleach, but point being is that,
in my opinion, bronze medal bythe ball play is still big,
three is still five star.
But uh, you were saying tell us.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Um, yeah, bro, I understand that you know, in
your opinion, that's what it is.
To me it's not, and relatively,there are way too many facts to
showcase that it's not hey, wow, most people would think, well,
you know, hey, if you feel likeit that it's not, hey, while
most people would think, well,you know, hey, if you feel like
it's bronze in your opinion,cool, cool me.
However, it outclasses Naruto.
It outclasses Naruto Likethey're as much as folks would

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be like oh, yeah, you know howis that possible?
At every con, there's alwayssomebody cosplaying as one of
the squad captains.
You don't see that with Naruto.
Like that, hey, when it comesto.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
I just want you to know that when you made that
comment saying that Outclass isNaruto, I felt the energy across
the world of a bunch of Narutofans getting extremely upset and
frustrated.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean, look, look, once again, once again.
And them are not real animefans.
But I don't really care.
But at the same time, likelegit, right?
I understand that you might belike, no, that's not true.
Nah, wholeheartedly it'struthful because, hey, I'm an
actual Naruto fan.

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But I even know that this righthere, bleached out classes,
bleached out class Naruto,without having all of the games.
Like, yes, I love the NinjaStorm, I love the Ninja Storm
stuff, I do Wholeheartedly.

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But I'm not going to sit herein front and act like Bray Souls
didn't have everybody in achokehold and still almost has
everybody in a chokehold attimes.
And they did that with one gameOne.

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They didn't do this withmultiple, they did that with one
.
I never heard of this one.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Let me check this out .

Speaker 2 (11:20):
You know what I'm saying and, as much as it might
be, even want to be said fromyou, Jet Black of hey, you know,
like if Thousand Year Blood Wardidn't get animated, nobody
would relatively remember.
Nah, because they still talkabout the Aizen fight to this

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day.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Like they talk about the Aizen fight more, there are
major fights, it would be moreso with the new wave, where they
will probably won't evenremember well, not remember, but
look into Bleach Like they willprobably be more engrossed with
things like Demon Slayer andJujutsu Kaisen.
That's what I'm saying.
If you grew up with Bleach,yeah, you will remember Bleach,

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but it's more like for the newfans Out of the new fans and
this is where I say I know myopinion's different.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Out of the new fans, I hear more so about Bleach than
Naruto.
Why?
Because Boruto tanked, beingthat Boruto tanked the way it
did in the beginning and didn'tgrab everybody's attention the
way it should have.
Yeah, it's picking up the slack, don't get me wrong.
I'm giving Boruto that creditbecause Boruto is picked up, but

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Bleach literally didn't have todo much.
They didn't have to do a thing.
Oh look, hey yo.
Have you ever seen Bleach orheard of Bleach?
Yeah, I've heard of Bleach.
I haven't, relatively watchedit.
What did you hear about Bleach?
Oh, the eyes and fight wheneach of them go for eyes and

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fight.
That's literally the first thingout.
Or and this is why I sayliterally, what makes Big 3 the
Big 3.
Because they have their most,you know, most egregious fight.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
That's the only example, though.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
No, not relatively really, like you still have the
Kenpachi fight.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Okay, go ahead, give me more examples you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
You still have the Kenpachi fight and we're like if
I was to get into it a littlemore in depth, you have the
Kenpachi fight Like you havemore fights coming out of there
that folks are like oh, oh, no,Like these are fights.
That just was like yeah, hey,hey, this was downright
memorable, right here, In thecase of Naruto, right, I'm going

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to be real with you.
I'm going to be real with you.
One of the more memorablefights doesn't even have the
main character in it.
That's the Itachi versus Sasukefight.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
If we're going to be honest, Right, Okay, or even
like Sasuke versus Killer B.
That gets referenced a lot.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
That's what I'm saying.
The Sasuke versus Killer Bfight gets referenced a lot more
than Naruto's fights.
So this is why I'm saying, like, legit, as much as folks want
to say what they say aboutBleach and I understand, even if
you're an old head, because oldheads say the same thing Even
if you're an old head,understand me, I'm going to hit

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you with the facts of it.
Guess what?
Hey, bleach outclasses majorityof your people.
Bleach outclasses majority of alot of the anime that you think
about.
Why does it outclass?
Because even with its fillerwhich is why the big three are

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the big three their filler evenis entertaining.
If your filler is entertainingand it's filler, meaning it can
be skipped, but your filler isentertaining enough to be like
hey, bro, nah, I'm going towatch the filler, I'm going to
watch the filler as well.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, that says something about you.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Interject for just a moment.
Just main thing into it.
I would not do a filler forfiller battle between Naruto and
Bleach.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
And I know I'm still going to focus specifically on
Bleach.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
You can say that if you want to, but I'm the reason
I won't say it into that aspectis we're going to talk about one
of the filler arcs here.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I mean, we're going to talk about the big three
anyway, so we'll find out forsure what really matters up.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Even the Bound arc is that particular filler arc is
considered so weak that even ifyou look it up on Google, the
AI-generated content on therewill literally tell you that
most people recommend to skipthat one.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
That's why I said I don't even care for the Bound
Heart.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Most definitely right .
People are recommending to skipthe Bound Heart.
They're recommending to skipthe Bound Heart because a lot of
people are like eh.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
The only art I really cared for that's filler was the
Zomp Heart to filler are like,and the only art I really cared
for that filler was the zompartoum filler.
That's the only one that Ireally liked, honestly but I'm
gonna be real with you, right.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I'm gonna be real with you, right, and this is
just me being outright honest.
Naruto had way too many fillerarts.
I didn't care for I mean therewas something I didn't care for
either.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I mean, there was some that I didn't care for
either, but there was a lot thatI liked.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I'm talking about overall, and when I say this you
might be like what the hell,Talos, but I'll put the Bound
arc over them.
I'll watch the Bound arc over alot of Naruto arcs that were
filler.
Why?
Because what I'm looking forout of a filler arc when I'm

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looking for that action, I'mtalking about actual action.
Found arcs still had that,Whereas with a lot it wasn't
just oh, my god, hey, guess what?
Here we go with the filler arc.
We're at school and majority ofthis is just oh, we got a goofy

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, goofy monster that we got todeal with.
No, Fountain Art actually hadseriousness to it.
So I'll take that seriousnessversus a goofy-ass filler arc,
and this is just me.
I'll take that seriousnessVersus A goofy ass Phil Art, and
this is just me, my opinion ofit.

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I'll take the seriousness of it.
Most folks be like Ooh, ooh,hey.
Bounce Art was you know what I'msaying In your word, j.
Black Folks say, ooh, bounceArc was vampires.
No, the Bounce Arc wasn't.
I mean, it wasn't reallyvampires, it's more like what

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they actually is is that theBounce Arc.
If we're gonna put the vampiresout there, like let's point to
the actual ones in the roomright when we get to them.
If we're gonna put the vampiresout there right and relatively

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the name, literally what theycall themselves, what?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
are you referring to?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
They get on my nerves , so much what they call
themselves, but they was just so, so, freaking, weak.
What was that other soul thatliterally tried to rob, that
robbed Ichigo.
What was his name?
What was them?
There, you go, them werevampires.
Them niggas wasn't strong atall, whereas, there you go, them
were vampires.
They ain't do shit.
With Sparkle, them niggaswasn't strong at all, whereas

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with the Bounce at least theother Bounce outside of their
leader were fucking strong andgave niggas a problem.
The rest of them, niggas,didn't do shit.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Well, look, for the sake of time, for the sake of
time, we ain't gonna go there.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
For the sake of time, for the sake of time we ain't
gonna go there for the sake oftime, right?
You know what I'm saying forlater, right, cause I'm being
I'm just being real, though likelegit they were trash.
So if we gonna do that, I'mgonna put the right arc where it
should be.
Bounce, don't get enough love.

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Bounce to the guy that the Fullbring his guy, because the full
bring his work Garnage.
But overall For Bleak, for me,yeah, bleak stands up there,
bleak stands up there.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Well, look, let's put it in this, in this regard,
onto this one, because, uh,overall, I'm gonna just go ahead
and say my overall, because Iknow we're still trying to move
forward real quick and I got youtalos, I got you um, because I
I'm on both sides of this.
I will definitely remainneutral into this aspect.
I have moments where I wouldlike, as far as we're doing, if
we do the comparisons, I have mymoments into it to where

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there's some filler I don'tabsolutely dislike on to bleach
and there's some minority Idislike.
My only biggest thing into itis that most of the fill, the
filler for bleach this dislikeisn't even made by kubo.
Kubo did not write the boundarc at all whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
That was nothing to do with him they were self
contained filler arts that waslike not even part of the manga.
So I mean that's the thing it'slike, but see, the thing about
it is some of those fillers.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
usually the author has some input into it as well,
too.
Kubo actually had no input tothe Bound arc.
That's one of the reasons whyit is one of the weakest and why
most people don't like it.
Kubo had nothing to do with it.
This was completely done by thedirector by.
This was completely done by thedirector.
By?
What was it?
Noriyuki Abe?
Was the person who was thedirector.

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Yeah, so he was the one thathad full control as far as that
whole arc in itself.
So Kubo had nothing into it.
Kubo has admitted for himselfhe's not the biggest in
storytelling.
He's more so in visuals, andthat's one of the things where.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
See, that's the thing Out of the big three.
Bleach fucking kills all theothers.
As far as like character designbecause, bro, the character
design had that fucking saucefor real, absolutely, I'm gonna
give Bleach that much credit andKubo is one of those ones where
it's around for most peopleagree.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
And Talos, you may's around forever Most people agree
.
And Talos, you may agree.
Into this one, most peopleagree.
The manga is better than theanime and the reason in being is
because, when it comes down tothe anime, it's not that the
anime is bad, it's just sayingthe manga is better because Kubo
has a way of his storytellingthrough his visuals.
There are pages in the mangathat has no words, like the

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exact opposite of hunter, hunterand yuya haka show, where you
have you have comic panels.
There's just nothing but filledwith words and storytelling
trying to explain stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I still remember kubo does not do that all right, hey
, okay, so on that end of theaspect, see, on that one, that's
where I'm on the fence, and thereason why I have to say that
is because for me that doesn'twork for Bleach, bleach for me.
As far as anime and manga werebalanced, now, if we were

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talking about Naruto, yeah, andthe reason being, once again,
naruto literally shows that alot.
When it came to about Naruto,yeah, and the reason being, once
again, naruto literally showsthat a lot when it came to
manga-wise.
That's the reason why I giveBoruto credit where credit is
due, because reading Borutoversus watching Boruto.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's a whole different thing.
You have to read.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Boruto.
I don't care for watching.
I'll read Boruto though.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, they soaked the hell out.
But that's where I say.
That's the reason why I say Ihave to care.
It's different when it comes toBleach, because Bleach shows
the fuck up, just like it doesfor the anime.
Same thing with One Piece.
One Piece shows the fuck up.
So whatever you tend to almostsee in the manga, you damn near
couldn't see in the anime.

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So it's like it shows the hellout.
It shows the hell out, like Isaid, that's just me, that's
just me.
That's why I say it's a littlereverse when it comes to this,
because that's where Bleach andOne Piece fought, because when I

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first started them both and Iwas watching them both, that's
where both of them were kind oflike I see it, but I need to see
what you got on the other endof the spectrum, because if it's
so far on the other end of thespectrum, then I know something
off.
But Bleach and One Piece, damnnear they kept their balance,
whereas with Naruto I wasreading Naruto and I was mad at

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some of the animation because Iwas like yo this fight scene
popped way harder in the fuckingmanga.
What the hell you do?

Speaker 3 (24:23):
so but look, and I will say that's also one of the
things that Kubo that there'stwo people that I follow on
YouTube that do bleach analysisand it's one of the ones that
both of them agree to.
The same thing as Mr Tomo two,three, four, six or something
like that.
It's Mr Tomo and he has his owncharacter design and like kind
of side with Talos onto this one.
His case picture is his uh, owndrawn character in a captain

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uniform.
So so, um, the other guy, dbzimrom I think it is imrom or
something like that um, both ofthose channels that they have,
both those channels arededicated specifically to bleach
analysis, and one of the thingsabout it is the fact that kubo
has been dealing with healthissues and stuff all the time,
and when it comes down for likemanga releases, there's been

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times where he's he struggled intrying to get stuff out on time
, and so, like I said before, hehe himself has admitted the
fact that he's more visual instorytelling, and so talos, like
you said, that has a goodbalance, is important.
There are where in the mangathere's some things that kind of
get confusing.
That's one of the best parts ofthe Thousand Year Blood War arc
.
Right now, the Thousand YearBlood War arc is considered one

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of the most controversial in themanga.
The reason being is becausethere's some stuff that just
isn't adding up.
It's almost like we're jumpingscenes sometimes and some stuff
is missing.
And it's because Kubo's healthhas been very bad.
He doesn't.
He doesn't know when he's gonnago, like he just knows for a
fact.
He's like I'm gonna go at somepoint, I don't know when.
I would hope to finish thisbefore it happens, but who knows
?
So then, most of the thousandyear blood work he sped through

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and wound up yeah, and he woundup speeding through.
So he purposely skipped somestory development that he said
he really wanted to put in themanga.
But he was trying to push,though, to get it out in time,
because the publishers weretrying to get it out, like they
were hounding him so much about.
We gotta get out, we gotta getout.
He's like my health is likeimportant to me too.
So thousand year blood war arcthe anime is one of those prime

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examples of the anime gets achance for kubo to be able to
put those moments that heskipped in there now.
So that's the reason why wehave so many arcs for Thousand
Year Blood War, and I know we'renot talking about it right now.
So there's just some backgroundinformation to give you an
understanding of how the animehas been for Kubo when it comes
down for this, because there'sbeen quite a few times um, not

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so much in Soul Society, not somuch no.
Um Soul Society arc.
He was able to get what hewanted in the manga and we got
that in the anime.
Um, for the substitute soulwreaker or the something of the
shinigami art.
It has two different names inamerica.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
We know as a substitute, because that just
sounds like it rolls all thetongue a little bit better.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Anyways, yeah well, it's, I forgot exactly what it
is.
Something the the training, notthe training, of the.
It's a whole specific name andI can't remember exactly what it
is.
Something the the training, notthe training of the.
It's a whole specific name andI can't remember exactly what
it's called.
Hold on Now, it's bothering me.
Agent, agent of the Shinigami,that's what that arc is called
in the Japanese version.
Here in America we call itSubstitute Soul Rebar, which is

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very different, but I don't knowJust whatever the case may be.
So the first two, what we'regoing to talk about.
It lines up manga to anime.
Wise kubo was able to do whathe wanted to do in the manga and
in the anime to make it line up.
However, once we get further on, probably we'll talk about it
more in the next episode, oncewe get to the ron car art, there
are some moments in the mangathat starts to skip that.

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In the anime we get morefleshed out and in some episodes
some people's like that's kindof a filler.
That wasn't actually like this,maybe like a one or two
episodes in the arc.
That's like that wasn't in themanga.
I don't think that's important.
No, it actually was importantfor the story.
Kubo was not able to put it inthe manga because of health
issues, and so when it finallygot an anime adaptation, he was

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like I want this in the store.
It's actually important.
It gives some backgroundinformation.
One of the other things aboutum that I like about kubo um,
and since I'm focusing on we'refocusing on just the first three
arcs first three arcs here umis the manga.
One of the things I love aboutit.
I actually have the first um,the substitute, soul, soul

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Reaper, and the Infiltration, aswell as the Rescue.
I have all three of those onmanga.
I actually own all of the mangafor that, and I got the big
stack where they put like threeor four mangas in one big book.
That's what I have.
I absolutely love the manga andone of my favorite parts about
Kubo's manga that I don't seetoo many others, favorite parts

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about Kubo's manga that I don'tsee too many others doing this
Kubo gives extra storytellingbetween chapters.
So between the chapters in themanga there's these little
pictures that happens and it'slike little like uh, just like
little script.
Stories that kind of happeninto it and if you pay attention
, some of them is just goofypictures, but some of them is
like what happened afterwards,like, for example, um and we'll

(29:08):
probably talk about it in amoment but ichigo versus um
ikaku.
Remember how um ikaku winds uphaving his ointment inside of
his uh, inside his staff that heuses to.
He uses for himself and he'lleven share this opponent if it's
a good fight and stuff and um.
So the thing about it is, afterthat fight you wind up seeing a
little bit more.
If you pay attention into themanga, there's actually a little

(29:30):
snippet, a little um picture,where it shows him using that
ointment to help out somebodyelse in a fight that was in a
fight previously as well too,like after the kenpachi fight he
actually helped him out, andyou don't see that in the manga.
You don't see that happen inthe manga or in anime, like when
you're just regular reading.
But those little snippet storygives a little background as far

(29:51):
as like, huh, how did thisperson show up all of a sudden?
And now they're all healed?
How does this person like allof a sudden like didn't you
weren't you just in a fight?
Didn't you just get your behindkicked?
How are you like all of asudden more energy and stuff,
like have more energy orsomething like that.
Those little snippet comics iskubo's way of saying oh.
By the way, this is whathappened after the fight.
This is a little bit of uh,just kind of give you an idea of

(30:12):
what was going on or like,let's say, for instance, um,
during the whole time, what,what happened to um, like what
happened to yodorichi?
Yodorichi is just kind of, iskind of missing in most of the
arc, right?
No, if you pay attention, thoselittle pictures it actually had,
if you line them up, it's anentire story script of what
yororichi was doing the entiretime until we wound up catching

(30:35):
up to her again, and it's likehe kept us informed of every
single character and it was inthose little things and I have
not seen it happen in mangaanymore.
Like I don't see anyone doingit anymore.
If I see those little artworkthings, it's like, oh, okay,
it's just like a little goofystuff, but understanding that he
put an extra story, little arc,a little little bit of

(30:57):
background of what these othercharacters were doing, and you
can see what is udahara doing,what is yoruichi doing, what was
going on with orhime while shewas um missing for a short
period of time, and it's like weactually do know what happened
to them.
They're in those littlecartoons and it's like that was
probably, to me, one of the mostpeak things in the manga and

(31:18):
that's why those are one of mymost prized mangas that I have,
aside from um, my Ronekenshimanga.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Alright, now hold on, yeah, hold on.
There was a whole bunch ofthings I wanted to say, but that
doesn't matter now.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
That's my general go.
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Okay, that's cool.
We're going to talk about theBounce arc more during part 2
anyways, because, keep in mind,I said that seasons one through
four is where it's half of theBounce arc on the season four
and then season five is thesecond half when the Bounce
invade the Soul Society arc.

(31:57):
That's when we really talkabout the Bounce arc.
But for the most part that wasthe general vibe that I was
getting from the bount arc, eventhough, yeah, they're not
really vampires, it's more likethey are spirits who can absorb
the, uh, human soul.
So, in other words, unlike soulreapers and quincy's where they

(32:19):
hunt down people that's alreadydead well, not really all soul
reapers on, they, they don't dopeople it's more like they hunt
hollows while the hollows huntdown, um, dead spirits.
You know the spirits that'slike still lingering and whatnot
.
You know it was whole rigmaroleand the substitute so shinigami
art, uh, but it's different.

(32:44):
They're not really vampires,but that was like that's what it
made it framed to be.
So that's the vibe I got fromit, but we'll talk about it in
more detail in the second part.
And, like I said before, thesubstitute shinigami arc Was
just introductory To thecharacters and what not.

(33:06):
Both are pretty good, but let'sget to the real meat and
potatoes the Soul Society arc.
Now Rukia Got recalled becauseyou know breaking the rules and
what not.
But, um, obviously Ichigowanted to Save her, even though
rukia was like don't, don't dothat, I won't forgive you if you

(33:29):
do.
And you know, in typicalfashion, gotta rescue my friend.
And of course, orihime chad.
Uh, who are you since they?
They were the only one thatalso knew that rukia was missing
.
Um, because you know they can'tsee spirits and what not.
They want to help too.
They received training fromYoriji back when they thought

(33:54):
that she was a cat, but you know, with the male voice and what
not.
But we come to find out thatshe's a very beautiful black
woman.
Uh, out that she's a verybeautiful black woman.
Meanwhile, ichigo, he needs toundergo the process of his

(34:14):
training to go into the SoulSociety to rescue Rukia, and he
had the risk of becoming ahollow in order to become a Soul
Reaper.
And you know, they give him thechoice to wear Once you go
through the whole process, likeum.
I know there's more detail toit than that, but I'm just
pretty much trying to give thewhole point by play.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
You're good we did find out that you go ahead a
cheat code at that moment and wedidn't know this until later on
.
If you really pay attention,it's funny, but continue.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'm sorry yeah, like, and then essentially they go
through all this, just go to thesoul society to try to rescue
rukia, while they're fightingall the lieutenants, captains,
third seats, fourth seats, fifthseats, whatever, whatever,
fighting all them.
But you know what, man, I'mgonna be honest with you.

(35:05):
It's when we got to likeepisode 60, 61, 62, so like the
um near end of season three,where I was just singing, it was
aizen all along.
Well, really, it was more likea combination of aizen and
urahara.
I was like whoa, oh shit, holdthe fuck up.

(35:26):
Because first of all, it wasurahara that was behind the
hogyoku and also creating a gigafor rukia that could be
untraceable, which was taboo,which why he got exile and all
the other shit.
But the main thing was thereason why the whole all
according to plan, all accordingto keikoku memes was going
around with Aizen was mainlybecause he knew and planned

(35:51):
around everything.
Like I still remember watchingthat episode and I'm like, oh
yeah, like you know, I knewyou're gonna come in through the
soul side on the rukon district, that way, like I knew you're
gonna hit up uh kukaku and allthat because that's uraha's um
district, because you're workingfor him, right, you're working

(36:13):
for um mr hadn't called.
Hold on how the fuck.
you know all this Bro, like wereyou watching that?
It was so funny.
In hindsight I'm like, holyfuck, how do you know all this
shit?
Like you playing for everything.
But you know what?

(36:35):
I'm going to open it up to thepanel how y'all feel about the
social idea right there.
See that I want to say the runcard was really what got me into
bleach.
But the social society, or whenthat revealed to where, like oh
, eisen wasn't really dead.
In fact he was like the mainbattalion, like I'm pulling the

(36:55):
trains um, killing off Central46 and all that, I was like holy
shit, he was playing chess witheverybody.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Since Talos started first last time, I'm going to go
real quick and go first thistime.
I absolutely love the SoulSociety arc.
Some people probably wound upbreaking this up into two
different arcs.
They call one the sneak entryand then the rescue, because,
yeah, so they want to sometimesconsider two different arcs and
we're combining togetherwhichever one.

(37:25):
So I absolutely love the worldbuilding that we kind of have
into this one.
I love that we get anopportunity of seeing people who
were born in the soul societyversus people who were born
humans and then went to the SoulSociety and understanding that
there's a big difference betweenthem.
Getting the background andgetting the story development
for Rukia understanding how shegrew up, who she was and stuff,

(37:48):
and it makes sense more of whyit is that when she came to the
human world she was kind ofconfused on some stuff.
But then there was some stuffshe was kind of familiar with,
because the humans that die andgo to Soul society art.
They still do some of thosesame things, but it's nowhere
near the same way.
That was done in like back onthe normal world, because while
the normal world human worldwinds up being much more

(38:09):
advanced in technology, the soulsociety almost shuns and bans
almost all technology,everything is old school.
And it's like okay, yeah, I'msorry.
And then the whole thing aboutthe no one has to eat unless you
have extreme amounts ofspiritual pressure, which is a
pretty interesting thing becauseyou know, rukia loves to

(38:29):
fucking eat and so when youfigure about that, you're like,
wait, so you love to eat.
Is that something about the gig, guys?
She's like no, I just have toeat, I just love eating food.
And you're like why?
But if you're from the soulsociety, you shouldn't need to
eat food.
And you're like, oh, youactually have immense amount of
spiritual pressure.
Oh, that's pretty dope.
Um, so her whole background,ringy's background and this is

(38:51):
also the point where I'm makingan absolute comparison between
fucking Snape from Harry Potterand I'm just saying Biacuia.
What I mean by is, literally wefind out throughout Harry
Potter the entire time Snape hasactually been looking out for

(39:12):
Harry the entire time, but thewhole time we just swear he's
been out just to absolutely hatehim.
You just like, just toabsolutely hate him.
You just like, you justabsolutely hate him, don't you?
You just straight up just wantto keep going after him and not
realize that he's beenprotecting him this entire time.
Byakuya is the exact same waywith rukia.
We literally have thisunderstanding that that byakuya
like oh, he's like, he sighs no,she needs to die.

(39:33):
No, she needs to be executed.
No, is this nis?
And you don't find out tilllike way later on.
He's been battling this demoninside himself forever.
He absolutely loves rukia andhe's been fighting himself
between the fact ofunderstanding do I uphold the
law, like I, like my family issupposed to, or do I save my
sister, like I love?
And even though he's beenhaving this blank face, he's

(39:56):
been suffering.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Can I pause right there?
I was going to let you go, butI was also thinking, keep in
mind when he was explaining howhe was thanking Ichigo, because
remember, when he was askingIchigo the same thing during
their fight and he was like, oh,I'll just do the right thing
regardless of the law, and I'mlike whoa, and it was that

(40:22):
moment of just like dang, butyou know what about.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
But the rules are made and it's like sometimes
rules got to be broken in orderto help people.
Like that's just realisticthing, like it's one of those
ones that you matter oh, whatwould it call it?

Speaker 1 (40:33):
It's either at utilitarianism or rural
utilitarianism.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Exactly, you had these two balancing forces and
so it literally paints Biancathis whole time, and then you
finally get that, understandingthat, no, this is a question
that he's been battling himselfconstantly and he's leaning on
both sides and he's not surewhat to pick, because he doesn't
want to dishonor his family.
He doesn't want to dishonor hisfamily, he doesn't want to
dishonor things, but heabsolutely fucking loves his

(40:59):
adoptive sister and he's like,even though she's not my blood
sister, she's my sister and Ifucking love her and I don't
want this happening.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Technically she's like sister-in-law once removed
In a sense.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
It's way more complicated.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yakuya married her sister and, like you know, uh,
hisana abandoned rukia and itwas like, okay, after, like,
hisana died and the very nextyear yakuya find rukia, I'm like
, okay, let's let her in.
But what about rules?

Speaker 3 (41:31):
fuck the rules, let her in yeah, and before he was
like fuck the rules before, butnow it's like so different.
But there's also differencebetween like he will violate
some family rules because hethinks he can still if he can
still maintain some type oforder, but he's like based upon
the rules that rukia had broke,he was like as I can't excuse
that, he's like, if I excuse it,that means anyone can do it.
Anyone can break these rulesand it's gonna always be a big

(41:53):
issue into that and it's alwayssomething you battle honestly.
As a parent, I battle that withmy kids all the time.
My kids will snitch on eachother.
My kids love snitching on eachother.
I hate it.
I'm like why y'all y'allsupposed to be looking out for
each other?
That's one of the things thatnaruto did.
Right, when sasuke and sakurawound up giving naruto that food
and like it's, and likeliterally, um dude showed up was

(42:14):
like hey, who says you give himfood?
I said he couldn't have none.
Now, I'm just kidding, y'allpass, and I'm just like this is
seriously kakashi sensei, but um, it's just one of those ones
that like it's always going tobe an ongoing battle as far as
when it comes down to rules.
Some people's like rules aremade to be broken, but some
people like no rules upholdorder.
Okay, rules do uphold order,but there's got to be some type

(42:36):
of leeway.
Nothing is absolute.
There's always some type ofleeway, because Rukia did not
break the rules of her ownaccord.
She was coerced into it.
None of this was her decision.
She thought she was doing theright thing from the beginning.
She went to the human worldbecause she thought she was
doing the right thing.
And it's like I accepted helpbecause I'm trying to do the
right thing.
And it's like but I've beendoing nothing but breaking rules
.
And it's like I accepted helpbecause I'm trying to do the
right thing, and it's like butI've been doing nothing but

(42:57):
breaking rules and it's not fairtype of thing.
Like do I really deserve death?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Like seriously though , and that's and that's also one
of the things I love Go ahead.
I'm sorry, but can I talk aboutthis real quick before I forget
how Rukia was trying to put onthis brave face this whole time,
was trying to put on this braveface this whole time, and I
like how it took Ichimaru tobreak her arm.

(43:22):
resolve to where I'm likethere's something about this
motherfucker that just getsunder my skin like he always
breaks me, every time like fuckyou, ichimaru, just walking off
with that smile and saying likeI got her again it's, and I love
it.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
It's great we show these that these people are like
fucking humane.
Let's just say that they'rehumans.
They, even if they were born insoul society, they were still.
They have great emotionalfeelings and that's one of the
best story developments into it.
Um, the last thing and I'm gonnastop so I can let talo speak
onto this as well too is thefact that, like I, one of the

(43:56):
things that got me is the factthat they have this rule about
killing and they're so againstit, but they're willing to kill
rukia.
But we were just talking beforeabout and I mean like not so
much we, but like the characters, just talking so much before
about those the biggest issuesthe soul society had with the
quincy's is the fact that whenthe soul society, when they
defeat a hollow, they releaseits spirit to be able to go back

(44:17):
through the reincarnation cyclein order to continue, the
balance of the world Versus theQuincy erases them from
existence and it's like you havethis big issue about this.
But Rukia breaks the rules andinstead of like, oh, we're going
to just release you into thesoul, we're going to re-release
you into the soul society'sreincarnation system.

(44:41):
We're going to straight upeliminate you.
You're going to be straight updead.
You're gone, you're going to bewiped from the balance and it's
like weren't y'all just allabout balance.
Why would you do this?
Hold on hold on.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
You got, keep in mind , the whole execution wasn't
because, oh, they feel the needthat they had to, but it's more
like, if anything, it was morelike a like I said before a
joint thing going on betweenAizen or Howard to where,
ultimately, the execution was inorder for Aizen to extract the

(45:16):
Hogyoku from Rukia's Anki guy,but it was more like in order
for Aizen to extract the Hogyokufrom Rukia's Angega.
But it was more like a morehumane way to more like okay, at
least this way it seems like Ican look like a martyr and all
that shit.
You know, pretend I died andall that shit, so I can like
sneak in and kind of get thething from her.
Later I had a whole thing goingon, but I like then each of you

(45:39):
had to show up and be all heroand shit.
But hey, you know what.
I accounted for this.
I knew the only way he'll bestrong enough to even do all
this is if he's half hollow.
We're going to explain thislater in the um other parts of
the stream review, but eitherway, I'm like I kind of pray.
I accounted for everything andthis whole and the whole

(45:59):
execution was based on his partof his plan.
So I'm like thinking, okay, tobe fair, uh, rukia didn't know.
Like she didn't know, she had ageek guy that had the hokyo ku
in there.
Like urahara didn't tell herthat and even urahara apologized
to ichigo and hopefully, likehe's gonna, um, eventually tell

(46:23):
rukia.
I didn't see that part yet or Iglossed over it, but
essentially, like he was the onewho gave rukia the gi guy that
had the hokyo ku, she didn'teven know that she was breaking
the rules when she got the giga.
It was just a matter of aizenurahara, their whole thing going
on.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
That's why she was in trouble in the first place true
, and I just want to clarifyreal quick because it really
sounds like you're sayingurahara was working with aizen.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
They were, no, not really working it's more like he
had this whole thing going on.
Aizen just tried to take hisshit from him, but keep in.
He was the one that developedthe Hogyoku and all that.
It's just more like Aizen justwanted to use it for nefarious
purposes.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
That's it.
But like I said, I'm done, so Idon't really have anything else
to say, and so I guess the onlything is how did you not know
that Go Take 13 was dead?
Dumb motherfuckers.
Anyway, tell us you haveanything dumb motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Anyway, tell you anything, add on to the social
society arc nope, really reallyI didn't.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
I didn't take nothing from you, did I?
Because I wanted to talk, Iwanted to hear you, man all
right, so right.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
I'm gonna say this.
I wanted to hear you man.
All right, so right.
I'm going to say this and I'mgoing to say this whole hardly
as far as it goes, becausemajority of this I don't want it
to be where, even though Iconsider things differently when
it comes to quote, unquotespoiler.
But, folks, as far as it goes.
Differently when it comes toquote unquote spoiler, but, um,

(47:58):
folks, as far as it goes, how doI put this in nice terms?
Eisen was trying to fix thesocial science.
There we go.
I said fuck it, fuck it.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
I'ma say it right here, right now we have, I said
fuck it, fuck it.
I'm going to say it right hereright now we have an ISIS
supporter.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I'm going to say it wholeheartedly right now yes,
isis is a dick, isis is an ass,isis is a whole ass asshole.
Why?
Because of the way he was goingabout shit.
However common, however common,fix the soul society great
again.
ISIS was literally trying to Fixthe soul society.

(48:41):
If you've watched Thousand yearblood war, if you've read
thousand year blood war, youknow what he was trying to do.
You know where he was trying togo with it.
Oh yes, it looks like he'sgoing for Absolute power, but
we're gonna be real with you.
So he is dead.
So King Bendy, who knew aboutthis shit for the longest?

(49:08):
Head Captain?
None of the captains knew.
They was too dumb in the dark.
Well, maybe one other captainknew, but we're not going to
talk about that Because I don'twant to spoil shit.
But Headains knew they was toodumb in the dark.
Well, maybe one other captainknew, but we're not going to
talk about that because I don'twant to spoil shit.
But head captain knew.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
See, that's the thing .
That's what I like about Bleachalready.
See, with Aizen, I consider himthe main antagonist of it all.
So far, you know what I wasgoing to make, one of those
references.
I'm not going to even do thatto Aya right now.
Point being is that, well, holdon, I will do it, but not for
different reasons.
The whole point being is that Iwas talking about in the

(49:46):
Fairytale review with Hero,Pendragon, mirror Jane and Barza
Taco I was glad they were onthe show, by the way, for that.
I was talking to them about howthat anime ended with Zerub and
Atenologia and I felt like,okay, I honestly felt like if
they ended the show with themfighting Zerub instead of

(50:09):
Atenologia at the end, it wouldhit a lot harder.
Because personally, I feel likewith Atenologia he was just all
about destruction and whatnotand I was just like, eh, you
should sound, should sound onedimensional.
I don't really care for that.
Zero, he was low-key, like thereason fairy tale existed.
He was the reason why they hadmagic.
All this other shit was becausezero, like, and on top of that,

(50:32):
all he wanted to do was just,um, revive his brother, who
turned out to be not.
It was a whole bunch of shit.
The whole point being is thatat least Zaref was about
something.
Same thing with Aizen.
At least as a villain he wasabout something.
So I won't say I'm an Aizensupporter, but I do like Aizen
as a villain.

(50:52):
I'll just put it like that.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Cool, I'm just going it right there.
Cool, I'm just going back to itand just saying, like it is
right, because, truthfully, tobe truthful and honest, aizen
was literally trying to doThings in a way of hey, I want
social society, we're trying Tosave social society here, and
just that.
Third, because Folks are lying.
Folks are not telling the wholetruths and everything else In
between.
Yes, aizen was an ass.

(51:16):
Because folks are lying, folksare not telling the whole truth
and everything else in between.
Yes, aizen was an ass for theway he was going around With it,
but Eh, aizen at least Knew thewhole details of hey, y'all
lied.
Huh, what do you mean?
They lied?
You know the stories that theywould tell us and say that we're
not supposed to do this Becausethis goes against the.

(51:37):
The soul can't get stabbed.
That's literally Isaac See.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Now hold on.
It's like one of those lines Ilike to tell myself sometimes.
Sometimes, before they'll claimthat you were right, they'll
claim that you're crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
True, true, that would fit, that would fit.
But I'm just saying, outside ofthat, though, going into this
whole, if you want to call it anarc, if that's what we're going
to call it, if you're going tocall it an arc, you had, you're

(52:20):
gonna call it an arc.
You had A lot of people in herewho, really and truly
Truthfully, should've got waymore development In the
beginning of and I can say thatnow, yeah, cause I have taken

(52:42):
the fans glasses off Whereaswhen I first Watched this, I was
like, oh shit, it's perfect,perfect, perfect, perfect.
No, like I can take that wholeHarley off Now and be like, yo,
yeah, they should have got Waymore development.
Not gonna lie to you, I lovehow things were and yes, I know
it's foreshadowing andeverything else, and once again,

(53:05):
ladies and gentlemen, we'rehere with foreshadowing.
So you heard me say it twice.
I get that with Ichigo.
Ichigo is the mutt, becausethat's literally what he is.
He's a mutt.
He's an actual mutt Because,when it comes down to it, as

(53:28):
much as folks don't like it, yes, ichigo is not only a soul
reaper, not only a hollow, ornot even a hollow, because he's
not a Hollow, he's a Vastalorde.
Not only was he a Vastalordeand a Quincy and a Fullbreaker,

(53:55):
and a full breaker From howwe're going and what not.
Ladies and gentlemen, and herewe go, spoiler, spoiler.
If you don't like Reddit Atthis point, yeah, better walk
away.
Everybody, love Cool.

(54:17):
It's also being said that he'sa fool.
Bringer you know how y'all don'tlike the fact that they've been
taught that he's a fool bringer.
He's a quote unquote he's afool bringer, yeah, yeah, I'm
not even gonna.
I'm not even gonna tell youwhat else.
Yeah, like uh it was.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
It was a whole thing, like we're gonna talk about
when we get there anyways, infull detail.
But here's my thing.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Hey, hey, hey, we ain't going to talk about the
parts that quote unquote stillain't been animated yet because,
hey, you know, they're sayingthat truthfully.
If we're going to be very muchso truthful, ichigo or his son
might get in in the hell title,but we're not going to talk
about that Back to it, so thatway I can let everybody else go.

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Like I said before, this archere relatively was slow.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Yeah, it was slow, to be honest, like when I was
re-watching the shit like I'mthinking okay, it was like 40, I
remember it was 63 betweenseasons 1 and 2.
20 of it was season 1.
So that means 43 episodes wasdedicated to the Soul Society
arc between the entry and therescue.
I'm gonna be honest with you,if you cut out like at least 5,

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maybe 10 of those episodes,maybe the pace would have been
better for it, because I justfelt like a lot of this I
understood like the fightbetween the lieutenants and the
captains just like introducedthem, I get that part, but then
it just felt like they weredoing a whole bunch of nothing
every now and then where I'mlike, are y'all gonna like get
along with this shit or not?

Speaker 3 (55:58):
I can actually explain that to you, based upon
a previous review that you and Idid JB with Kata Kyo Hitman
Reborn.
Remember how we talked?
Remember how one of the thingsI talked to you about before was
the fact that there was somemoments where some of the comedy
just seems like either forcedor just kind of there.
So it's the same thing.
Shonen jump.
Shonen jump is very and viz bothof them are very big onto these

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things about fan bases andstuff to where most of their fan
base is still kids.
So if you have something that'stoo serious, too serious tone,
too actiony, then you startlosing the kid fan base, they're
not wanting to watch it as much.
And then there's a threateningof having to move that um, that
that manga from the beginning ofthat book to the end.
And so you know, back when wegot those those big issue

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releases that had like a bunchof manga chapters inside the big
book and it was like because ofthat threat that was there, it
wound up being to the point ofthere had to be some moments of
we need to add a little bit offunny, we need to add a little
bit of jokes there.
Even if it add a little bit ofjokes there, even if it doesn't
fit into the storytelling.
It was to maintain thoseaudience.
That was the main reason, okay.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Of course, but see guess what.
This is why I go back to what Imade my statement for a time.
I will take the Bound arc overa lot of what was in Naruto.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Because guess what?

Speaker 3 (57:19):
When you realize over a lot of what was in Naruto
Over a lot of what was in Naruto.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Because guess what, when you realize that, look at
everything how it was, you cansee it's more forced in Naruto
versus a lot of other places.
It was way more forced outthere and I'm like why you ain't
got to have it here.
You ain't got to have this here.
Like you don't have to havethis episode.

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Like, don't get me wrong, Isaid that with Bleach too, but
I'm just saying it was like whyis this episode here?
Like I know, we are notsidetracking, especially in
Bleach.
Bleach had a bad habit of doingthis too.
We're not sidetracking,especially in Bleach.
Bleach had a bad habit of doingthis too.
We're not sidetracking for fourepisodes talking about oh, look

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, and Bleach.
I'm going to pick on you rightnow Talking about a stuffed
animal, b-o-r.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Don't talk shit about Cone.
Cone is still cool.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I'm going to talk enough trash about Cone, because
Cone got on my nerves from thegame alone, aka Cone's Bonanza,
ladies and gentlemen, becausethat's where you had to go to
get leveled up, and every time Iget tired of seeing Cone's
Bonanza.
But I say again right, we hadan entire what three, four
episodes when all them stuffedanimals, All them dolls and

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stuff that was dead togetherwith Cone.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Cone was willing to do what Ichigo couldn't Cone was
ready to clap cheeks.
But Ichigo was like no, I'm toorespectful Cone said I'll take
your body and do it myself,since you can't do it.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Cone out here, and then not only that, but then
Cone out here, and then not onlythat, but then call out here
what?
What was the other character'sname?
I forget his name.
He looked like a circus dude.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
In Bleach.
I know who you're talking aboutWith the top hat and shirt.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Yes, him, him right oh yeah, the dude that also
could see ghosts and everything,but he was like turning them
into hollows by saying he wasexercising yeah, no, no, that's
what I'm saying like why do wehave an entire four episodes and
then with them?
it was supposed to.
That one was supposed to bebased onto a storytelling, but

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it was a.
I I do remember, uh, who was it?
I think it was mr tomo thatwound up talking about it.
It might have been him or itmight have somewhere I read so
forgive me if it's inaccurateinto this one there was supposed
to be something more to thatokay can I add something on
before you?

Speaker 1 (59:51):
um, explain, uh, honestly, it kind of felt like
to me when I was re-watching itbecause maybe this is me just
got through doing the fairytoast stream review uh, it kind
of felt like how not to hadhappy and each go had cone.
It's almost like, okay, let'sgive the other full bring.
You know, I know we're notgoing to be bad.
Let's give them their own likepet character for them to follow

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around.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
That's what it felt like that was like the only, but
like I can see that, hold onBefore a couple of thoughts ago,
legit, it wasn't the petcharacters that bothered me.
Like I said, if we're going totalk about it legit, let's hit
the actual elephants in the room, and we're going to hit on you
for it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
It did feel like they wasted four episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Not even just that.
It's on the general premise ofif you're going to do stuff like
that, why are we wastingepisodes on the goofiness?
I get it Once again.
Shonen, it was for the kids,but, man, you could have did it
without that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
You could have did it without that, just a perfect
example of how there are folkswhere I'm like, okay, we want
more serious shit, which I'm allfor.
And sometimes there are peoplethat like don't mind the goofy
shit, and I'm like, okay, that'sfor them.
My whole thing was it's funnyhow we're talking about this and
we were talking about this fora while now, how I had this big
gripe about how I keep tellingpeople animation is not just for

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kids.
But I can also understand howyou gotta like add some
goofiness so that it can stillhave some appeal to kids.
But I'm like I'm just sayinglike eventually those kids gonna
have to grow up, so maybethey're gonna be exposed to some
adult content, but not tooadult, you know, not that adult,
but you know like there's gonnabe like some violence and like

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they're gonna be slashing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
There's gonna be like some violence and like they're
gonna be slashing.
They're gonna be bloodsletter.
Yeah, they're gonna be shitlike that.
See, TJB, here's his thing.
Right, I want you to hear me.
I want you to hear me clearly,because you see, you know I
normally don't just use yourinitials like this.
I want you to hear me clear.
Right, it's not about thegoofiness.
I can take some goofy, I cantake some goofy, I look forward

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to some goofy.
But when you have stuff thatjust literally, as Coco Gotsou
even said just don't make nomotherfucking sense Like why is
it even?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
in here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Why does this fall in here at all?
Like yeah, like, even if it'sin a filler part, why is it even
falling in filler?
Like, yeah, even if it's in afiller part, why is it even
falling in filler?
Like, come on now, Come on now.
So that's the part that I'msaying.
Okay, and I will reiterate thiswholeheartedly throughout the

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big three that was their majorproblem.
Their major problem was youhave parts in them, because it
doesn't even in one piece.
You have parts in there thatliterally make no sense.
They make no sense and they'relike why is this here, even if

(01:02:53):
it's in a filler part, why isthis here?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
So yeah, that's my hot take I don't actually have
to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
It was just going to be just what I was going to say
was going to be five seconds.
It was supposed to be anadditional story to that guy.
He was supposed to play a moreof an important role, kind of
similar to like how chad all ofa sudden becomes a full bringer
type thing.
But we don't understand what afull bringer is.
Yet there was supposed to bemore to this guy.
There's a reason that he's ableto see these spirits and

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interact with them.
It was this.
It was just a dropped story.
That was that actually all thatI was going to say.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
From what I heard, I don't know if it's true or not
though, you're fine, that's whatI'm saying, like legit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
From what I heard, I thought they were saying like he
was another Soul Reaper, butthat part just got dropped out
of nowhere.
Yeah, yeah, it was supposed tobe where he was going to be
another Soul Reaper.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
But it might even be the case that he would have been
probably something pertainingto what happened with Ichigo's
dad type of thing, but then itwouldn't have made sense for him
, forcing him to be Hollows Likewe don't know.
There was supposed to be moreto him.
It just got dropped.
It got dropped because I thinkKubo was like I'm not seeing it
going the way I want it to.
It's not quite fitting.
I need to make a differentcharacter to kind of do this
type of thing.

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So it just got droppedaltogether.
So that's pretty much why wehave it there.
And then it's gone and it's justlike Kubo just kind of just
wrote it off pretty kind of justinto him off really quickly.
So that was just kind of whathappened.
So, but again, like there's notmuch more details into that,
there's not many people mostpeople forgot about him so they
never brought him back up again.

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That's exactly what it is thatKubo kind of wanted was that
nobody would really remember andbring it back up.
So it was like he's gone, we'rejust moving on right now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Was there anything about these four seasons?
That Okay, so look the BountArt.
They're not vampires, they'reShang Tsung.
That's who they are.
They steal people's souls To beimmortal.
That's all they want to be, andnot even good Shang Tsung at
that.
Look, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
I'll take that.
I'll take that.
I'll take that over.
Just call them Vampires,because the full brings Are what
are.
Look, hey, I'll take that.
Just calling him a vampire,because the Fullerbringers are
what are and I don't care whatnobody say.
I'll fight y'all on this hereand I'll die on it.
I'm going to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
It just didn't help that Gene Carrier, the lead
bound, looked more Well.
I won't say who was the mainguy.
From all the full brain it waslike uh jugo yeah, something
like that I know something likethat.
I mean, he kind of looked likeone too, but it just didn't help
that with karya he was lookingmore vampire.

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Like he was looking morevampire like than like fucking
edgar marco from um, but seethem but see them full bringers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Outside of uh, outside the fullbringer leader,
everybody that was a fullbringer.
Their abilities made them seemlike they were Twilight
characters.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Honestly, I'm sorry.
That's why I said I'll fightWith the dude who could rewrite
History or something.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
See, that's the thing , that's the crazy part.
When I said vampires, I wasn'teven thinking of Twilight
vampires with the bounce.
I would think of the moreclassic vampires, the ones that
you know, the ones that we growup with, the kind of vampires
like the ones that you reallygotta watch out for, the one
Batman anime movie where he faras drag.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
it was that serious.
Yeah, I hear you, but I'm justsaying, I'm just saying right,
when I look at it it's just likeI said, it's just me as a fan.
When I look at it, I'm likeBounce and Fullbringers had so
much potential, why did they notjust combine them together and
you would have made somethingfreaking awesome, versus

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separating the two?
Why did they not just combinethem together and you would have
made something freaking awesome, versus separate the two?
And now you have one thatrelatively seem like emo
puppeteers.
Bounce Versus oh look, we'repaid to sparkle, we don't do
nothing else.
Fullbringers why, like, why,why?

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I mean, let's be honest, let's think about the
explanation of the powers too.
Because you were in closeproximity with the hollow, you
have the ability to kind of justchange up reality for a moment.
Specifically, like honestly, mybiggest thing about the full
bringers thing was making or hemay and chad full bringers, I

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guess I feel, that's all it wasfull brings was, I think, was
supposed to just be a way toexplain how chad got powers,
which I'll be like, okay, that'sfine, that's fine, but hey hey,
for real.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
For real, right on, like I said, because I don't
want to hold a such long, butfor real though.
Right Cocktape legit.
I would rather Odehime been abounce user and Chad just been
the full bringer, or vice versa,than to be trying to be like oh
no, we just got to make anexplanation for their power, so

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we're going to make both of themfull bringers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Look, in all honesty, if you had made it to where,
all of a sudden, orihime wasjust somehow descended to the
soul king at some point, thatwould have been.
I mean, keep in mind is thisher ability is to make it as if
nothing, as if it never happened.
And keep in mind is this theywreck is to make it as if
nothing, as if it never,happened and keep in mind this
they wreck kubo, retconned thatthat was her, that was the

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explanation for her power, allthe way up until the thousand
year blood war arc.
And then, if you read the mangabecause it hasn't been inside
the anime you read the manga.
Uhaba actually says somethingdifferent.
Yeah, it's the explanation.
So they kind of retconned thatentirely, which is really really

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sucks, which is stupid, becausethat made her the strongest
thing out there Because, legit,she was the strongest healer for
an entire time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Because of those words, hey, she literally makes
things Seem as if nothing hasever happened.
Any damage that anybody takesIf she heals it, it's
non-existent.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
It's a thing Like.
I know it's kind of unfair tosay, but it's funny, so I'm
going to say it anyways.
You know how we have that wholeNaruto dynamic To where it's
funny, so I'm going to say itanyways.
You know how we have that wholeNaruto dynamic to where it's
like okay, there's two guys andthere's the chick, but in Bleach
it's not the case, because it'smore like three guys and one
chick.
Well, actually three guys andtwo chicks if you count Rukia.

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But whole point being is thatat least in their dynamic the
chick is not useless.
More soccer slander, huh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
I will agree.
I will agree because becauseSakura was intentionally made to
be useless, even though Iunderstand why Kishimoto
literally did that, because hebased her off of a character
that he did, off of a girl thathe liked but didn't like him, so

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he made her look as ugly as itwas and made her basically be
useless.
I ain't never heard that beforethat kind of implies that he
was useful.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
I ain't never heard that before.
Yeah, no, I ain't never heardthat before.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Yeah.
No I never heard that before.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Yeah, I thought he said that he did it based off oh
, he wants soccer to be basedoff the normal teenage, normal
girl.
I'm like, okay, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
No, okay.
No that sounds even worse wayback here, right way back here,
right here.
I wish I could find it.
It was an interview donebecause I was in atlanta when
this, when this literallydropped out because a lot of
folks asking like why?
They asked him like why issakura useless, why is he, why
is she made the way she's made?
And Sakura is kind of like thewhole Naruto group, at least

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Naruto's group, team 7, they'rebased off of him.
It's like Naruto's him, sasuke'shis friend and Sakura literally
is a girl that he liked.
She didn't.
The girl that he likedapparently didn't like his
friend either.
Liked, apparently, didn't likehis friend either, but she
didn't like him and he wasliterally kind of like chasing

(01:11:45):
her around for a hot minute whenhe was younger.
So he based Sakura off of her.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Bro, that just sounds cringe, because I'm like oh,
they always like these bad boys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
So I'm going to write this Like when he came up with
the character, it was just likehe came up with her to be that
way.
But round about this time theywere getting into Shippuden and
it was like hey, she's going togrow out of it, because

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Literally how it happened ForNaruto and Naruto Shippuden,
basically the girl grew out ofit, but by the time when she
grew out of it he moved on.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
So it was like Okay, she had her grow up and
everything else, while we seesakura that explains the part
where you remember I know we'regonna talk about it later in the
naruto review anyways, but uh,it reminds me of that one scene
to where, uh, you know, theywere like deep into like the
fortune obi war war, or theywere like leading up to it, and

(01:12:58):
then Saka was like saying I loveyou, naruto.
I'm like, oh well, you knowthat's nice, but let's go ahead
and get Sasuke back, because Iknow that's what you really like
, yeah.
I'm like oh man, you know what.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
And, like I said, that's why it was like okay,
when I heard that and I waswatching that part and I thought
, wait, this explains why thispart makes so much fucking sense
here age, where it got righthere, where she kind of was
trying to get back with him orget with him, and he was like,
nah, you really don't like me,you just saying that now and I
kind of see it.
So I grew up and moved onversus okay, I get it.

(01:13:50):
Now I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
I'm trying to look this up.
I won't be honest with you.
The only thing I have found isthat Kishimoto talking in the
interviews, that he purposelymade Sakura not to be super
overpowered and strong.
She's not supposed to be madelike Naruto and Sasuke.
She was purposely made just tokind of be a book nerd that just
had to understand the harshrealities of life, who was very
ignorant.
He did purposely make herignorant to the way that life is

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per se.
Whereas Naruto takes thingsextra goofy, but he has the
ability to do so, sakura can'tbecause she doesn't have that
overpower, nature and stuff.
That's all that I'm finding.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Believe me, I wish I could find it out because, like
I say, I remember me and mybrother and we were in Atlanta
at the time when this gymdropped and I was like bro, wait
a minute, the fuck, like wewere.
I know this was a while back,this was a good while back.
So, like I said, I was like yo.

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If this, if that's the case,then I see why he made her like
me, but I also see why he kindof got her to be where okay,
yeah, you see, you saw her growup or whatever.
So you made it where sakurawould grow up, instead of being
that childish, childish one allof the time and relatively dense

(01:15:19):
and not useless, you make hergrow up and become this.
But throwing that back overhere to Bleach, right, I'm not
going to hold you, I'm not goingto hold you, I'm not gonna hold
you.
I feel like Kubo almost Triedthat with Otohime, with some of

(01:15:45):
her goofy moments, like tried tomake her seem like she was just
overly dead.
And I'm like you can't quitplaying, quit playing in my girl
face like this.
I can't let you do that.
Like, please, don't, don't dothat.
Kubo, I love you, but don't dothat she Like please don't Don't
do that.
Kubo, I love you, but don't dothat.
She's not Sakura.
Don't do that.
We're not going to do that Like, because I felt like they were

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doing that with everybody atsome point.
I'm going to throw out onepiece here too.
I feel like they tried to dothat with Nami in the first
beginning, before the timeskipped.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Honestly, I was thinking like getting like major
Gold digger vibes from all Nami.
But like she got some art, likeshe's not that artless.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
It was like they were trying to make her like just a
gold digger and relativelyuseless and I'm like, good and
well, y'all are not gonna makeher.
No, no, no, no, no.
So yeah, that's what I said,like legit, legit, right it?
Just Going back over IntoBleach Within these First parts,

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yeah, young me when I first sawthis stuff, when I was first
Watching Bleach oh, oh oh, theaction Is what captivated me.
Young me when I first saw thisstuff and I was first watching
Bleach.
Oh, oh, oh, the action is whatcaptivated me.
I was hee, hee, ha, ha At thefunny parts and everything else.
Me now Taking those Pan glassesoff.

(01:17:11):
I can see where there was.
There should have beenimprovements.
I can see where, like Kubowanted but he couldn't do
because, hey, I'm not feelinggood, I'm sick, we're being
rushed and Shonen Jump, I blameyou Because y'all had a very bad
habit of rushing, a rushingoffense.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Oh yeah, most definitely to try to push them
numbers out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
They were very bad About that y'all have very bad
habit of rushing off and that'sanother thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Like here's the thing I know we're gonna talk about
anyways.
But listen, first of all, thefact that I just found out
yesterday, or either earliertoday, where apparently it's
gonna be a part four of thousandyear blood war and I was
thinking like fuck, I plan onreviewing where apparently it's
going to be a part four ofThousand Year Blood War art, and
I was thinking like fuck, Iplan on reviewing Thousand Year
Blood War art in January.

(01:18:05):
So that way, I thought it wasgoing to be like three parts and
we're done.
Nope, there's going to be more.
Okay, I'm cool with that, I'mglad there's more, but at the
same time that just means thatthe Thousand Year Blood War arc
is going to be much later whenthat concludes.
But man, you know what WithBleach, I just feel like it is

(01:18:33):
great.
But not going to lie, sometimesI just like I was just kind of
skipping over some episodes notall of them, but some episodes
just to get to the parts whereokay, here's the parts where
this feels more integral to thestory.
Like I'm kind of getting tounderstand that what's going on

(01:18:55):
outside of that.
Uh, some episodes.
I'm not they're bad, but morelike I just don't care for these
episodes, yep.
But hey, hey, listen, let's nottake away from the fact that,
like Kogatsu said earlier,visually, like the character,
design-wise, very good, verybeautiful, very distinct in the

(01:19:15):
anime world.
But also, before we close thisout, we gotta mention how
fucking banging the music is,because it got some pretty good
openers and closers and evenoriginal sounds, right like you
get a little background noise,like the violin on going fucking

(01:19:36):
crazy in the backgroundwhenever someone's gonna use
their shikai or bankai, and I'mlike yeah, yeah, that's why I
can believe that at leastdefinitely deserves to be big
three because it definitely gotsauce.
When it comes to visual designmusic, the plot is good.
Once you know it, actually weactually piece the plot together
, it's actually good.
Like you know it kind of getlike a the plot together, it's

(01:19:58):
actually good.
It kind of gets a littlefluffed up with the filler and
that's the main thing.
But when you actuallyunderstand the plot Of what
happened with Bleach From themajor parts, once you piece all
those together, okay, I see howgreat Bleach is as a story, but
you know, like what Kogasa said,kube is more visual than

(01:20:21):
storytelling.
Okay, fine, fine Characters,like what Talos was saying they
could have been cooked more,like I feel like they could have
had more exposure more.
I mean, we can kind of see thata little bit more, a little bit
more in the later um arcs, like,in fact, I feel like, if you're

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gonna have filler arcs, make itso.
That way those arcs aren'texactly like the kind of arts
where, okay, they can have thisarc but it doesn't really change
anything.
That's what pisses me off to towhere it just seems like what if
there was like major characterdevelopment in this arc?
To where it was like, okay,like for instance, the one with

(01:21:03):
Hisugaya and the other, uh, hiroand Maru, uh that whole um
Rugen Moro that we're gonna talkabout later, like there was
like major character developmentin that.
But then you go to the majorart lawyer, like, okay, none of
that character, betterdevelopment matter, it's just
more like fan service.
So that way the character, theaudience, will feel more

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endeared to the character.
I mean, yeah, but I kind ofwant to see that a little
continuity where like, oh, soyou really did learn something
from that art, you know thatkind of shit.
I would appreciate that more.
But I still want to say it's afive star anime because it does
a lot of things right.
I just can't say with fullconfidence that there were some

(01:21:51):
things where I can gloss overand say like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
I would say the only thing that probably made that
I've learned, even when watchingBleach and reading the manga,
is Kubo has probably made theonly mistake of making too many
characters, because when youmake so many characters, the
biggest thing about it is thatyou have no idea who fans are
going to say is your favoritecharacter.
I know I think y'all talkedabout that, like in Kanto before

(01:22:18):
too, where Disneyney made inconsole and everyone was like,
oh, there was like oh, yeah,mirabelle is going to be the
favorite character.
We need to make mirabelle toys.
We need to do this and thisfocus on mirabelle and then come
to find out no, she wasn't eventhe favorite character, was the
sister, one of her sisters, andit's like no, it's just one of
her cousins, sorry, one of hercousins.
Wands of being the um, thefavorite character, the strong,

(01:22:39):
like the stronger.
I can't remember her name, butum, and it's like yeah, luisa.
So it's like, literally, youdon't know who's going to be
your favorite character andbecause you don't know who fans
favorite character is going tobe, you have to try to spend
time to flesh out eachindividual character and it's
like it becomes.
It comes kind of crazy and it'sgreat, honestly, because in

(01:22:59):
fact, all of us here play dndand, like talos, you and I have
dm before.
Well, you know, with dms, it'sone of those ones that we
understand that you can create aside character in a random town
and all of a sudden yourplayers are just hawking all
over that character.
They want that character totravel with the party, they want
them to stay there, and it'slike this was supposed to be a

(01:23:20):
one-off character.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
And now I'm having to continue this on DBZ, did it?
You didn't mention me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
My bad.
But then DBZ did it with Vegeta.
Vegeta was supposed to be aone-off character, became a fan
favorite and now he had to stayas a main character.
He was never supposed tocontinue on, and it's like
whenever you make a story, youhave no clue what's going to
happen.
So you have to take that time toflesh out, um, to be able to
flesh out your people, and soit's like it was one of those

(01:23:50):
things that bleach has asignificant amount of characters
and it's like there's so manypeople to have to flesh out,
it's so much structure that isto everything.
You can't just move on to oneperson, be like, oh, I'll just
mention this person and thenmove forward.
Everyone's gonna want to know.
Like, we wanted some backstoryfor ronka q, and then we finally

(01:24:13):
get a ronka q backstory andit's like, oh, okay, it actually
pertains to jen, it pertains toaizen, somehow, cool, and so
you're like backstory.
And it's like, oh, okay, itactually pertains to Jyn, it
pertains to Aizen, somehow, da,da, da, da cool.
And so you're like, okay, butit's like you just never know.
That's probably one of thebiggest things that happen with
Bleach is that you, there are somany characters and so there,
because there's so manycharacters, there's a chance
you're gonna have somebody.
You're not gonna get backgroundground or backstory or anything

(01:24:34):
for it.
That's just you just gottaaccept that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Or, at the very least , it's harder to keep track of
each of the characters and thedevelopment of those characters
when it just seems like, okay,it's kind of like a roulette
type thing, okay, who are wegonna focus on this time?
Pretty much, pretty much.
Otherwise, that's all I havewere like, okay, who we gonna
focus?

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
on this time pretty much, pretty much, but otherwise
that's all I have.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
I just wanted to mention that until closing,
since I'm like you know gotchaanything you want to add on,
anything at all yeah, I wasgonna say remotely same thing,
like, yeah, it's just way toomany characters, like, as much
as I love them, you know, I loveall the characters, don't get
me wrong, it was just way toomany characters.

(01:25:25):
A lot of them could have beenflipped out more, but because it
was a lot of characters, someof them fell through the cracks
at certain points.
So, yeah, you know, overall,though, yes, it's a five-star
anime, one of the five-staranimes out there is definitely
top tier.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Let me say this on behalf of Talos Mixel sorry to
grade again.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
No, it's not even that.
Like I said, it's just more soof hey, look for Aizen to be the
villain that he is.
Aizen had a point.
Every great villain, the greatvillains out there they have a
point, megatron had a point,madara had a point.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Not even Don't talk about Megatron after that movie
just released out, because, ohmy goodness, people have started
siding heavily with Megatronafter the last one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Like legit.
I'm just saying those villainsthat you know had points, had a
point.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Magneto.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Like Magneto had a point, like great villains have
points.
So all I'm saying is like,legit, when you actually figure
out and find it, because, like Isaid, I don't want to spoil
everything.
But when you actually figure itout and you see, oh shit, yeah,
this man had a point, yeah,uh-huh, I told you so.

(01:26:49):
I told you so because it wasthere, it was beyond there, it
showed truth in it.
But overall, like I said, yes,five stars.
The anime is deserving of thespot that it's in.
Do I care that it gets some ofthe crap that it takes?
Not really, because some of itcomes from people which every

(01:27:15):
fandom has, those who are notactual fans and just want to
gripe because, oh, it wasn'twritten in the way that I like
bitch, it wasn't for you.
Then I say that whole heart, itwasn't for you then.
Or for those that just want tobe like oh, you know, this
character here is the strongest.

(01:27:36):
No, they're, they're not, theyget beat by other folks.
Just stop it.
But other than that, it's justsimply put.
You know, hey, it's there, itwas great, it's one of the
greats I give it.
As far as for what we've beengiven so far, I give it a within

(01:27:58):
the first two arcs here that wecovered.
I give it a, I'll say an eight.
The first two arcs get an eight.
Don't get me wrong.
That very first part though Iain't going to be in front of
you that very first part got onmy nerves.
I was like like I know damn welllike he carrying this goofy ass

(01:28:23):
sword.
But you know once again you seeit got better you, you see it
got better, but I was like hecarried this goofy ass sword
that he came that gross so andit never comes back.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
It never comes back.
The sword is gone forever, sowe can leave it alone.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
I think Kubo actually did that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
Because Kubo actually liked guts From Berserk.
I think that was probably thereason it was supposed to be
like a dragon slayer type thing.
If you look at the design forit, it looks like it was
probably supposed to be like adragon slayer type thing.
So I really think that mighthave been it.
It looked like one of thoseknives type thing.
If you look at the design forit, it looks like it's probably
supposed to be like a DragonSlayer type thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
I really think that might have been it.
It looked like one of thoseknives that the Asian
restaurants be having, One ofthose oversized ones.
I'm sorry but I just gotta say,especially having cooking
experience, it just looks likeone to me.
With that being said, yep that'sall I have to say on bleach

(01:29:22):
right now.
Uh, we're gonna be talkingabout the next four seasons, uh,
relatively soon, uh, but thenagain, uh, let's just be real
here at this point from now on,when we're doing extreme reviews
, I'm just putting all the partsout like a day after each other
.
So, in other words, by the timeyou even see this part or

(01:29:43):
listen to this part, all theother parts gonna be like coming
out right after each other.
So until the next part, juststay nerdy and we'll be right
back.
So let's just go ahead and zoomout of here and get ready for
part two, where we talk aboutthe arun car art, where we're

(01:30:04):
going to talk about boy, uh,green gel and uki or and all
them.
So stay tuned for that.

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