May 7, 2025 • 61 mins
We dive into the moral complexity of Bleach's Soul Society and how the Arrancar arc revitalizes Hollows as a genuine threat after they were diminished in previous arcs.
• Introduction to Arrancar arc covering seasons 5-8
• How Soul Society is portrayed as morally gray rather than purely good
• Evolution of Hollows with their hierarchy (Gillians, Adjuchas, Vasto Lordes)
• Ichigo's struggle with his inner Hollow and the "king and horse" dynamic
• The cultural influences in Bleach including Spanish, German, French, and English elements
• Analysis of fan-favorite characters Grimmjow and Ulquiorra and their contrasting philosophies
• Expansion of world-building with Hueco Mundo and the afterlife system
• Discussion of the visually distinct qualities of Tite Kubo's art style
For more Bleach lore and detailed character backgrounds, check out the light novels that expand on many elements only briefly touched on in the anime.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
all righty.
Then it's time for part two ofthe bleach extreme review.
Uh, I'm having a weird timedeciding how I'm gonna.
I'm thinking should I make thefirst eight seasons into one
part and then the other two intoone part, by two part, or into
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four parts?
But for now, part two we'regoing to be covering season five
through eight of Bleach.
That means that we're going tobe covering the second half of
the Bound arc and pretty muchthe Arrancar arc, like the first
leg of it, because it's likesix seasons of that, and I know
(00:43):
the last season is the fullbring, and then of course it's
like some filler sprinkled in,but for the most part it's like
six seasons total for Ron Carrbecause of like six parts.
Yeah, let's go ahead and getinto it Now.
For starters, season five.
For starters Season 5.
(01:04):
This is the part where, okay,the Bounce decided to invade
Soul Society, get their revengeand all that, and Talos was
saying that it was better thanwhat we give it credit for and
honestly, once again, I stillkind of don't care for it.
(01:24):
But I do appreciate it more nowbecause I just like the part
where, uh, it was just put intoperspective how the soul society
is more so morally gray thanthe actual good guys, because
you're thinking like, okay, theygot me the good guys, and then
there's the bad guys and I'mlike no, soul Society is more
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morally great.
It's like they have laws, theyhave their rules and all that,
but for the most part it's likeif they don't feel like helping
you, they're not going to helpyou.
But anyway, it kind ofintroduced this whole idea that,
okay, the Soul Society createdthe bounce and kind of tried to,
um, brush them under the rugand cario wanted to get their
(02:09):
revenge and all that, and itjust kind of makes you think
that, okay, soul society can bekind of sus and that's
interesting.
But uh, outside of that, youknow, it was like like it was
better than I gave it credit forinitially, but even then it's
like, eh, it didn't change, itwas like not really that
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game-changing, but it just kindof put things into perspective.
I don't know if I ranked orgraded the other arcs, but in
case I didn't substitute SoulReaper arc, I give that a Hmm, 3
out of 5 stars.
(02:53):
You know, introductory arcDidn't really do much, but it
did kinda Was able to introduceCharacters in a way that's like,
okay, well, uh, at least itwasn't getting too boring.
Uh, soul Society arc, I wouldgive that a solid 4.
Characters in a way that's like, okay, well, uh, at least it
wasn't get too boring.
Uh, soul society arc, I wouldgive that a solid four because
it changed things from a worldbuilding point of view and a
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plot point of view.
Uh, the bound arc.
Dial it back to a three point5.
Yeah, because the one part withhow the society created the
balance is like okay, that'sinteresting, it's like society
can be on some such shit.
(03:33):
But outside of that, if youliked it, cool.
If you didn't like it, I don'tblame you.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Could guess you got anything to add on to season 5
let's see you did actually do agrading scale onto the previous
ones um otherwise, like the mostsimplest thing into it is that
the bound arc.
I was like, eh, it's whatever,it's whatever, yeah, yeah, I get
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it.
The, the soul society createdthem, so therefore it should be
something pretty cool and thingslike that.
But for the most part it wasjust one of those ones I'm like
okay, like I kind of was justready to move on to the next arc
.
I'm not even going to lie toyou there.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Nah, I don't blame you.
Alright, let's go ahead andtalk about the Arrancar arc,
alright, so this is what.
Oh, um, kogatsu kind of gotbooted, I don't know why, but I
think he will come back in justa moment.
But uh, let's keep it moving,just in case.
Uh, this is the part where weget introduced to the Iran card
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and also the visors, and as soonas we got to get back in, we'll
probably get into that.
So, essentially, with the Irancard, they are hollows who have
removed their mass to gain soulReaper powers, and you get
things like the Iranrancar, likethe Grimjow Faxon showing up
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trying to cause chaos andwhatnot.
Like I said, we got introducedto the visors.
Ezgo struggled to control theinner holo inside him, so he had
to get training from the visorsto master that so he can wear
the mask and have like a littlebuff for like 11 seconds.
There he is.
(05:31):
Uh what?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
happened.
Technology, technology, sosorry, literally technology.
All of a sudden things startedgetting a little robotic for me
and then all of a sudden, boom,I wound up finding myself out
and I was like, okay, so I'mlike let me go ahead and fix
this real quick.
But we are good, my badcontinue gotcha.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, you didn't miss much.
I was just kind of doing ashort little summary of like the
beginning of the iran car art.
Uh, essentially hollows, um,the iran car, you know, hollows
that remove their mass to gainsoul reaper powers.
Uh, they show up trying tostart shit.
Uh, ichigo, he needs to learnhow to control the inner hall
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inside him.
So he goes to the visor toteach him how to master that
ability to wear the mask andhave like a little boost in
strength for like 11 seconds andwhatnot.
Uh, any thoughts about thatbefore we start talking about
the real meat and potatoes?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I mean, there's really a lot to unpack into
their wrong card itself, but asfar as the beginning.
So, after we had the bound art,I'll be honest, I wasn't sure
how to feel about the wrong card, but the thing about it is, the
benefit is that I was readingthe manga, so I didn't have to
worry too much about the boundpart.
Um, I like the beginning of thewrong card.
(06:57):
I actually like it so much thatI have that.
I only have three Bleach mangas.
I'm gonna be very honest.
Okay, I was broke at the timeit came out.
I was still in high school.
It was difficult getting a jobwhile also doing marching band.
I was in like the super highhonors classes where I had to do
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a bunch of volunteer work.
It was a lot.
Okay, I didn't have money likethat.
So bear with me on this.
I have literally the beginningof three different arcs.
I have the very first bleachmanga, the very first book.
I have the first book when theyentered the soul society and
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then I have the first book atthe beginning of the Iran card
is very weird, just understandthat, whatever.
Anyway.
Of the wrong card, it's veryweird, just understand that,
whatever, anyway.
So, but that specific one wasthe only one that I actually
purchased.
The other two were given to meby our friends, so they was like
you ain't got no manga, I'mgonna hook you up, and I'm like
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that's not quite the best hookup, but you know what I appreciate
anyway, thank you.
I still have them, though, butit's the only one that I bought,
because the thing about it isis that when we understand the
beginning of this arc let's putin this aspect, soul society arc
we knew there were strongpeople when it came to the bond
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art.
We weren't sure if they weregoing to be strong or not.
And then come to find outtechnically strong.
Technically, not kind ofcheapskated powers, whatever the
case may be, it's filler, notcanon who cares as far as my
concern, but the Arrancars, whenthey introduced themselves, it
was a whole other thing.
Instead of creating newcharacter, we got pretty much an
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upgrade of these monsters thatwe had before, because, remember
, at the beginning the hollowswere the threat.
Hollows were a threat at thebeginning of bleach.
Then we get to soul society.
We're like man, hollows ain'tnothing.
It was almost like you madethem weak, like, oh, we've met a
minos grande.
In the beginning, ichigo tookdown a minos grande.
(09:03):
Oh my god, that's a big feat.
Go to Soul Society, captain'slike I can take down five, ten,
a hundred Menos Grandes whocares about that?
And you're like dang, y'alljust made them like nothing,
y'all turned them into Cytomine.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's like, yeah, that's what I'm thinking Like,
team Force are a lot to wear to.
Where, like, essentially, uh,vegeta was like break it down to
krillin.
To where, like, oh,congratulations, you defeated um
, the equivalent of one rat.
Meanwhile, nap is worth fiverat.
I mean, yeah, worth five ratsand I'm worth 15 rats.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And then, uh, it was like I hate all of you pretty
much because he made, likeReddit seem like a threat, like
it had to be, like Goku Piccolohad to team up, like these two
mortal enemies who would fighteach other on sight had to work
together to take down thisbigger threat.
(09:57):
And then, like all of a suddenit was like, oh no, he was weak
and that pretty much nothing.
And you're like, wait, whatLike, what is this?
And so it was the same thingfor the minnows grand days.
Right, so the same thing forthe minnows grand days.
You're just like, oh okay,minnows grand days ain't nothing
.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And you're like, okay , hold on I like the way they
kind of explain it to it.
Oh, y'all don't, y'all don'tunderstand.
There's the gillian, right, uhright, and then they're like the
second highest.
I'm like I forgot what they'recalled again oh fuck it's, it's
gaping me, but I'm probablygonna remember it when we do
like part three, part four,whatever.
But uh, they're like the secondum level, that's like a little
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higher, it's like, okay, they'relike smaller than gilliam's,
but I'm more intelligent.
And then at the tippy top youhave to boss the lords and those
are the.
You really don't want to um bearound and the crazy part is how
eisen was like.
(10:54):
You know what?
I'm going to train up 10 busterlords to be espada and they're
gonna be like my little henchmen, kind of like a organization 13
and, crazy enough, it is aliteral organization 13 to wear,
including tozin itimaru and thetennis father 13 pretty much
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not wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So yeah, but yeah, yeah, there is, it's the gillian
, which is the weakest, minnowsgrandez, those ones apparently
with pointy noses.
They all look alike.
They're like the giant cloaksthat are pretty much just
mindless type thing.
And the Ajuchas, yes, becauseliterally that's what they're
called, yeah yeah, pretty much,because, like Ty, kubo really
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loves, like Hispanic culture.
There's one of the cool thingsabout it he loves Spanish.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Hold on, sorry, hold on, slide, change up.
Okay, I saw this one post realrecently, like literally
yesterday, where one dude waslike you know what, man, the
only thing about bleach that'seating good is the women.
And I'm like, okay, hold on,I'm not gonna disagree with that
part.
But, bro, I would disagree tothe parts where there's way more
to bleep that you're giving itcredit for.
For starters, bleep definitelygot that sauce.
(12:17):
When it comes to culturalinfluence, like not only does it
have spanish influence, likewith the naming and some of the
music, bro, listen, la Barra, laEspada by Shiro Saigisu Got me
dancing like a Spaniard when Ihear those Spanish guitars going
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off in the background.
Ay, yo what up.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's true, especially when you think about how some
of the bankai is called out.
Like some of the bankai iscalled out, some of the Bankai
is called out in Spanish and inFrench.
Those two languages are heavilyincorporated into Bleach.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It's not just Spanish , it's German because of the
Quincy's and the Bounce, andalso the English because of the
Fullbringers, because the waythe Fullbringers, their
abilities, are based on Englishrock music.
So Bleach is culturallyseasoned.
(13:11):
Culturally seasoned Not onlythat it has an iconic.
I'm sorry, I have to explain.
It has an iconic art design.
The music are bangers and theplot, eh, you know, the plot
(13:32):
kind of gets distracted here andthere, but for the most part
I'm kind of digging it.
Like, if you consider, okay, ifyou consider some two-soul
reaper art, okay, introductoryart, that's like a given, then
soul society, you can skip thebound art, go right into the
iran card, skip all these otherarts right here and there and
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just stick to eyes and all that.
It actually has a solid plot.
It just gets distracted withall the fillers.
And I'm not even mad about thefiller.
Like it's kind of come with theterritory when it comes to like
long format anime.
But sometimes I'm like can wejust get on to the good parts?
(14:16):
You know what I mean,especially when you already been
down this road before it, likethe first time around, okay, it
was awesome.
Like I had no complaints so far.
But when you rewatch it I'mlike dang, I thought Bleach was
shorter than this.
It feels the pacing just feelsso much longer than usual.
Like what the fuck?
(14:36):
Like I thought there would havebeen, like like when I was
rewatching the Soul Society art,for instance, even then I was
sitting there like I swear toGod, I thought the Soul Society
Art was shorter than this.
It felt like they spent liketwo or three episodes fighting
each captain or lieutenant orthird, fourth, fifth, whatever,
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and I'm like I mean it's okay.
But that's why I'm saying Imean it's okay.
But that's why I'm like sayingwith Telo I'm like if he was
here I'm like I'm sorry, butthat's why I would say with
Bleach it would probably getlike a 4.5 at best right now,
because I just felt like thepacing felt a little sluggish
(15:24):
here and there to a point whereI'm like I'm kind of ready to
get to that one part that I knowis going to slap, but that's
just me.
But for the most part, theRoncar arc, it was like
essentially the Roncar showingup, fucking shit up.
Vyra just helped EZO learn thepowers, and then next thing, you
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know, ukiyora and grim job, bythe way, two of my favorite
spotter out of the 10 like sofar.
Like, uh, I'm still.
Once we do part three and fourof bleach, then I might have a
more definite ranking of who'smy favorite spot.
But right now Rimja and Ukiyo-eare definitely my favorites
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like and, to be fair, they arefan favorites.
But you gotta understand thoughthey're just built different
though.
Yeah, essentially Orihime getskidnapped because with her
ability she can.
It's like goes beyond time andspace, regression, like they
said so in the anime.
(16:30):
By the way, I gotta say I don'tknow like I was re-watching
that sub and the way they kindof explain things where I'm okay
, I can't understand what'sgoing on now a little bit better
, but essentially, with orihime,her abilities like go beyond
time and space, uh, regressionis like you can, it's not just
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healing, but you can like makeit so that it never happened in
the first place, almost likesome jojo's bizarre adventure
type shit.
And I was like, oh, I need that, I need that, I need that to
get this whole shit off from theHogyoku, so I can like fuse
with, oh, jumping ahead.
(17:12):
But yeah, since we get her, Imean, it's gonna take a while
for the Hogyoku to fully awakenanyway, so we're just gonna keep
you while for the hugo q tofully awake anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So, uh, we're just gonna keep you around until the
time comes, and if your friendscome and save you, we're just
gonna kill them, so you might aswell like kill up all hope, and
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far as how things go into it,because with the introduction,
you know, I could get more of anunderstanding that there's more
classifications, there's muchmore of a build to the hollows,
they're not just a simple-mindedthing anymore.
I'm kind of getting more of afeel like there's something more
going on here.
We kind of get also anunderstanding of what Aizen was
up to, because, remember, thiswhole mount arc was kind of
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distracting from, well, what isAizen doing?
Aizen got what he wanted.
He got the jewel I was about tosay the Sikyon jewel.
I don't know if you're thinkingof the Aizen, anyway, this is a
very small pearl anyway whenyou think about it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
But you know he got you know there's gotta be that
big up in that everybody's likelooking at me true.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So you got the whole gyoku and it's like what is he
doing with it?
What is the benefit?
What is going on, what ishappening?
And we're just like kind ofleft in the dry.
The iran cars show up and we'relike, oh, we were created using
the hogioku.
Oh, okay, that's interesting.
Um, it says, shattered our maskand we got an opportunity to
kind of really showcase who wedo, what we do, stuff.
And we're like, oh, so it'slike okay, we have a new
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classification of hollow now andsomething that's kind of just
much, much more than it'salready been.
And it's like these hollows arenow organized as a group.
They're no longer seeminglymindless creatures, because even
the boss, even the vasalordesthey stay to themselves.
Otherwise hollows, they getstronger by eating each other.
These hollows are nowsignificantly stronger.
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They have pretty much their ownequivalent of soul reaper
powers and they don't have toeat each other in order to do
that.
They've just reached their ownequivalent of soul reaper powers
and they don't have to eat eachother in order to do that.
They've just reached their ownclassification of strength and
it's now it's like okay, hollowsare a threat again.
It feels like we found againsomething hollows are a threat
again.
We're finally understandingaizen's back and really what's
(19:39):
going on and it really feelslike we're I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm sorry, but can you imagine aizen showing up in
hueco mundo and was like we'renow?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, but can you imagineeisen showing up in hueco mundo
and was like we're gonna makehollows great again I mean he
said I made this whole societygreat again and went from there.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Oh whoa we're gonna you mean that, you mean that,
mean that I made that was funny.
But um, but also like, yes,like you said, grim joe.
Grim joe was my favorite.
It's straight up like by, evenby now, even by a thousand year
blood war standards.
I'm just putting this, be veryhonest, onto this grim joe is
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still my favorite.
Grim joe is still relevant inthousand Blood War.
He actually comes and helps outquite a bit.
So he's still current andavailable and doing stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
He got the batata treatment.
He was so good.
I was like hey man, we gottabring Grimjo back.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Right.
Honestly, from my understanding, kubo actually had intentions
to continue on with Grimjoanyway, and that's the reason
why we got more of a story forit, because him it was him and
Uquior, remember he felt upsetthat he was second to him,
because Uquior just seems likewho cares, he's like it's like
you always seem so nonchalant,like you have Uquior who's the
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hollow, that has no emotion, andyou know well I'm not gonna.
We're not gotten to that pointyet.
But eventually we understandthat he understands emotion, but
this beginning portion, he hasno care for anything.
I was gonna say he like hedefinitely he's a master of
stoicism, for sure this is true,but that's also part of his
background is the fact that hehas had no emotion, while all
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other hollows would have thisfeel.
For I need to eat to get strong.
I need to eat to do this.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Ukuyora is one of the few, if not, I think, the only,
but he was pretty much born avasta lorde, in a sense and I
add on a little side time towhere I still remember this
conversation that orihime hadwith him, like she was still
like capturing all that, right.
And then ukuyora was like hey,I'm coming in and I'm like, all
right, so we brought you somefood.
(21:45):
You need to eat up because westill need you alive, and all
that shit, like we could justinject you with nutritional or
injection or whatnot.
But like, hey, man, it's one orthe other.
So like whatever, like pickyour poison, you know what I
mean.
And I and keep in mind, likethere's like based on Chad
fighting one of the other EspadaI forgot what his name, noitor,
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that was the dude with like the.
It was like this crescent moon,double crescent moon, like
Zompot, so like the really talldude with the eyepatch, if you
remember that guy.
Anyways, he pretty muchone-shot Chad right.
And then, of course, likesensing energy and dragging
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Mosey, like everybody can sense,like spiritual pressure and
whatnot, and even Orihime cantell that something's wrong with
Chad, right.
And then, as soon as Uki walksin the room and Orihime, he was
like Chad's not dead, you know.
And I was like okay, and I waslike but he's not dead.
I was like look here, bitch.
(22:53):
I'm not here to entertain yoursensibilities, like if he's
alive, whatever, if he's dead,cool, that makes it easier for
us.
But either way, him and allyour other little friends are
gonna die anyway, so I don'tknow why you even fucking care.
But if you're gonna touch themon anyway and then like, laugh
at me, I'll uh, you know what.
(23:14):
Fair enough, I'm gonna be man.
He did all that with a stonecold face we are, does not care.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
That's what I'm saying.
He has no, from his whole thingis that he has no.
He has no understanding ofhuman life, of love, care,
anything like that, because hewas just born strong and so for
him all he knew was strength.
He recognized weakness, butdidn't care about others'
weaknesses because it was just awhatever type thing.
Everything to him was like eh,it's whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
It's kind of like that in the real world.
That's why I feel like I swearto God.
If anyone says that, oh, youknow, I can't relate to who you
are on a deep level, I'm like,yeah, I know what type of dude
you are.
Okay, I got you.
I know what you're saying.
Nah bro, some people feel likeoh well, you're a man like what
(24:22):
are you doing with feelings?
Like what are you doing withfeelings?
What are you doing withemotions?
That sounds like some bitchmade shit.
I'm like hey, bro, whoa, I'msorry, my emotions make me human
.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, but then that's where Grimjo comes in, being
the exact opposite.
Grimjo was an underdog.
Grimjo was born weak and had toconsume and build himself up.
He built a posse.
He built his own little grouparound him as well too, and
being able to do so much moreand stuff and it was like all of
it was super important for himas far as growing up.
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So seeing someone who's sononchalant was like I was born
with everything, so I don'treally care about anything.
He's like I was born witheverything, so I don't really
care about anything.
He's like well, I had to buildmyself up to get here type of
thing.
I had to build myself up to berecognized.
I don't like that small look onyour face.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Hey, hey, hey.
Naruto versus Sasuke, the wholedynamic all over again.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, it's true, until we finally actually got an
understanding of Sasuke'sbackground story and technically
he was his underdog, of his own, of the ut himself.
So it's like okay, understood.
But yeah, from the whole bigfirst big part of naruto yeah,
most definitely naruto, likeit's always seemed like osasuke
was just born with it, he justhad it that's crazy too.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I was thinking the same thing with um.
Okay, aside from chad and rukia, the others I feel like they
have that Team 7 dynamic goingWell, not dynamic, but a vibe
going on between Ichigo, orihimeand Uryu.
Because you can definitely tellwith Ichigo like he's supposed
to be the main character, he'snot like loud mouth, like the
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typical one or like not thatdumb, but you know he's solid,
but you know he's Solid, youknow.
And then um Uryu, he comes upas this riot was like oh well, I
can't Stand you soul reapersand blah, blah, blah and all
that.
And um, once again, uryu, he'scool, outside of that he's cool.
(26:18):
And then Orihime I still standby it, like I said in part one,
at least, with Orihime.
I still stand by, like I saidin part one At least, with
Orihime he's definitely notuseless.
They make it very clear thatOrihime is actually Low key,
overpowered, but he's more likeOne of the most overpowered.
(26:39):
Support characters you everheard of.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Until they nerfed her .
But yeah, most definitely so.
I'm trying to think the onlyother thing I have as far as the
beginning into it.
I like that.
We have to deal with the othercharacters too.
You know, we get like what'shis dude name?
Nami.
I liked his, I appreciated hisstory.
Let me put it in this aspect.
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I appreciated his story becausewe see his growth throughout
these, these couple arcs.
He gets pretty easily defeated,um, his arm gets cut off and
he's like pretty upset about itand stuff like that.
But then, um, they wind upbeing able to repair his arm.
He has to test it.
This is also something very,very important if you're a major
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fan of Bleach.
If you're not, then Iunderstand you probably might
have missed this.
So when Nami gets his arm sewnback on and repaired, he gets it
sewn back on by like a spiderhollow.
So what happens is that, inorder to test out the strength
of his arm, he crushes her head,she falls and she falls and
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pretty much like, okay, she felldead he, so he just killed this
hollow that healed him, just toprove a point type of thing, or
anything like nothing like that.
So there is a book seriesthere's like several book series
for um, for bleach, and we cometo find out that that spider
hollow is actually not dead.
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She has such a strong healingability that she was able to
repair not only repair her head,but in actuality she's a
secretly overpowered character,but you only know about her from
the book, so we'm not reallygoing to talk too much into it.
Just understand that apparentlyshe's actually super
overpowered.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Was it that same Ron Carr that Temporarily replaced
Green Jaw?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That was a different girl.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Loopy also got Domed by Green Joe Boom was the same
way.
Okay, never mind.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
But no, no, the one that actually healed him, that
one that actually healed his armand sewed his arm back together
, that one is actually asecretly overpowered hollow and
is super powerful, to the pointthat she has her own little
story arc of how she became amajor threat that they had to
put down.
But it's only in the book.
It's only in the actual books,in the light novels.
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So just a little bit of thingthere too.
If you decide to read the lightnovels, there's significantly
more world building there.
Um, kenpachi, as we know, isthe eighth kenpachi, but we also
learned well, we haven't gottento thousand year blunt war arc
yet, but there are previouskenpaches.
Obviously we get a fullunderstanding of who all the
other previous kenpaches are inthe light novels also.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Let me just say I kind of was surprised by who was
like to say I'm kind ofsurprised by someone who was a
kenpache and um, not just a Idon't want to upset her the
first.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Honestly, when we get to thousand year blood war, I'm
gonna be honest with you, a lotof people were very upset with
how her story ends, so we'll getto that point, but anyway, um,
but no, it's like I like thisone because the light novels get
a chance to expand more intothese characters.
In the manga you don't get tosee it like that In the anime.
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We do get to see some of thoselight novels, just a little bit
of it added and incorporatedinto it.
So it's one of those ones, likeI mentioned in our first part,
that we talked about Is that Ido have appreciation of the
anime Because we get the mangaplus some.
When we stay camp Now, granteda lot of these extra filler
stuff, I'd be like, oh my god,okay, I do kind of be like it is
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kind of a lot of filler to me,but I do appreciate that it does
add into that world building.
It adds into this other powers,there's other classes, there's
other people, there's more thanjust these normalcy, and I don't
I mean we're moving forward, Iguess, as we're moving into,
because the rest of this is justpart of the Aronkar arc itself
too, like you already mentioned,as far as Chad and his power up
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, I like the fact that myfavorite group I'm going to put
it in this aspect, my favoritegroup is the Visors.
They are my favorite group, butit's also their.
All of their background storiesare extremely interesting, like
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understanding the roles thateach of them played, how each of
them played with hat and clogs,understanding that, like he
saved them when they were prettymuch dead and it was an
experimentation, there was noguarantee that they were going
to come back and finally gettingan understanding their first
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initial understanding ofIchigo's powers you got to
understand like I still stand bywhat I said in part once, where
, if it's not Aizen, it wasUrahara all along.
True, true, but the thing is,urahara was actually trying to
help.
That was all it was.
He wanted to make things better.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He was trying to help and all that shit.
But to be fair, a lot of shitwouldn't have happened without
Urahara.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
This is true, but he didn't do any of it on purpose.
Yeah not on purpose.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
He didn't cause it with a name.
I'm just saying likecircumstances, you know
happenstance.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Pretty much, pretty much, pretty much.
But yeah, it was like, but it's, they're full on understanding.
It's a whole lot to, it's a lotto dive into, but it's one of
those ones that's.
It's a great appreciation andunderstanding them.
Having to accept the hollowform of themselves,
understanding that they had tobe hollows and this is one of
the most important factors, likewhat happened with the visors,
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becomes a huge benefit of whathappens and helps out the soul
society in the Thousand YearBlood War arc.
But it originally started here.
It started from Urahara'sexperimentation.
It's like I never intended forthings to go bad and go left,
but it already went there.
I'm gonna do what I can to help.
All the people know is like oh,urahara abandoned the Soul
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Society and he left.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm sorry but what's crazy to me?
Kind of side-changy, but incertain angles, especially when
you actually see his eyes noteven see his eyes, but more like
when he takes the hat off andall that shit.
He kind of reminds me ofSpanner from Catechia Hitman,
reborn but with longer hair youever notice that I can see that.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I can see that.
So yeah but it's one of thoseones that that's what.
Again, one of the reasons thatI appreciate when we really get
to dive in these world buildingmoments into it, understanding
more about Ichigo's powers,because for the longest time
we're being told that by who webelieve to be Zangetsu later
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found out that's definitely nottrue.
But who we believe to beZangetsu is constantly telling
Ichigo I can't help you, I can'thelp you, and it's like talk to
him, talk to your hollow form,and it's like that conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I thought you were Zangetsu.
I'm like nah, you'll understandwhen we get to Thousand Year
Blood War pretty much, butunderstanding who, who the
hollow is.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And then we haven't gotten that background of him
accepting his hollow form yet,but he's understanding.
He's at that point.
He's like I'm about to takecontrol and I'm now going to
really take control of thishollow form.
And you understand that hisvisor powers are still weak
because he does not understandhis hollow form yet.
His visor powers are still weakbecause he does not understand
his hollow form yet.
He's been taught by the visorsthat, oh, you need to subjugate
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your hollow form, you need totake control of it.
Make it yours, type of thing.
And the hollow has told himthat multiple times too Make
your power, your own.
The whole king and horseconversation.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
He was like.
Both can either be the king orand horse conversation he was
like both can either be the kingor the horse, but it all comes
down to the mentality.
In other words, whoever is incontrol mentally has control of
the body.
If Ichigo shows any sort ofmental weakness, then Zangetsu
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will, you know, take over.
It's almost like, either yougotta control your demons or
your demons will control you.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Exactly so, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
it's one of those ones that we do love, and it's
one of those I love, so it'sfantastic, but the thing about
it is I'm trying to put Bleachon a deeper level, where I'm
like okay, bleach is kind ofabout something like when it's
not being distracting with awhole bunch of filler.
It actually is trying to saysomething, though, but then the
other thing about it is, too, awhole bunch of fillers.
I'm trying to say something,though.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Exactly.
But then the other thing aboutthis too, like you had touched
on with Orihime, understandingthe importance into it, aizen
saw Orihime's powers and he'slike yo, we need that, we need
that I'ma need that.
So he's like jumping in andhe's like yo, get her, snatch
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her up.
We need that.
So he's like jumping in andhe's like yo, get her, snatch
her up.
We need that and we're gonnamake her use her powers and
stuff for our benefit bring thatwoman to me now well,
understand it too, like howgreat power in her
that part.
But understand too how or hemade it so willing to help, like
how nice she's trying to be onthings and it's like she's like,
even though you're my enemy,I'm still willing to try to help
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out as long as you like you canbe a little bit nicer type of
thing.
You treat her nicely, she'lltreat you nicely and it's one of
the most appreciative thingsthat we have for him.
You know it's the same um, butI also do like the um, so each
to go gets his power.
But the one person's powerboost that I really want to talk
about because we still do get achance of getting a chance for
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him to really kind of come backis Oryu.
So in Oryu in the Soul Society,he lost everything.
He lost all his powers.
He broke the little.
Honestly, crazy enough.
I know it was a special glove.
When he snaps it, I swear itlooks like a plastic knife, like
it was so weird to me.
I'm just like it looks like youjust glue plastic knives on a
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glove, and I think that's howsome people made that cosplay
too, is that they actually justglue plastic knives on the glove
and that's how it looks andit's like I swear.
It's very crazy, um, but we'reunderstanding that he like he
lost his powers entirely, buthow he gets it back?
We introduce uru's dad and, ohmy goodness, you talking about
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most powerful dude out ofnowhere, absolutely this.
Just there's one of those ones,I'll be honest with you.
Grim joe's, my favorite, uh, um, iron car.
But as far as my favoritecharacter from bleach I'm not
gonna lie to you, it would be,and I have major respect for his
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dad, especially now that Ifully understand his story, at
this point we just think he's anabsolute jerk.
But the smackdown that he laidon his son I'm talking about.
I was watching JJK and y'allalready know the Shibuya arc
when, oh boy, tope, oh mygoodness, I cannot remember his
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name.
Now, one of the main characters, the dude that always has he's
roasted on throughout theinternet Because he's known as
the crash out king, because allhe does is try, all he does is
get his behind, beat Megumi yes,megumi's dad, toby when Toby
whooped his behind.
When Toji whooped his behind.
I had flashbacks to Uriu's dadWhooping his behind, but Uriu's
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dad was so precise with it andthat's one of the craziest
things about it when he said itvery specifically, he was like
you need to be pushed to thepoint that you are about to die
and when you're pushed to thatpoint where you're looking at
death's door, you have to beshot at a specific point right
beside the left side of yourheart, a few centimeters over,
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and it'll reawaken your Quincypowers, because you technically
never lost them, they're justlocked away from you doing that.
And it was like this dude didit, so calculated, but he didn't
explain anything.
And so after he put his son onconscious and I was like what
didn't explain anything?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
until after he put his son unconscious and I was
like what.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
But that fight scene, bro, that that was just
fantastic.
Like it's one, like it wasfantastic I I love.
Also because we get a chance tosee um in the soul society that
uriu also has their own.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Like um, you say magic because you know they have
their own shinigami um spells,yeah, yeah, like, I like how,
even when she he was fighting umthat one shit, uh the moth lady
, uh suruchi, whatever it was uh, he was trying to say no, this
is not um flash step, this issomething entirely different
(40:04):
yeah, yeah, but it's the same.
It's all the same thing, butthey call it differently
depending on where you're fromoh, real quick, real quick,
before you say who are you firstof all, who are you is one of
those archers that makes me havegreat respect for archers, you
know like.
Green Arrow, Speedy Hawkeye.
(40:25):
I'm like, hey man, y'all needto give some of these archers a
little bit more respect thanthat, because some archers are
like badass with it.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Second of all, who are you Hands down to me?
The best archer is from FateStay Night.
Archer from Fate Stay NightHands down best anime archer to
me.
Just saying that, Continuetalking.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
And second of all, when he like introduced the
energy swords, the steel Snyder,and he was like, oh, we don't,
it's like it's the first bladedweapon that we use, it's the
only bladed weapon that we use.
But even then he was explaininglike I never said that this was
a sword, and then he fuckingarmed and shot it bro, he was
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like what and um also like howhe also went up against uh, it
was this one spot, uh, don'thelp me, don't help me.
But uh, he also tried cyah world.
Um, he also tried to fight himand he always used the swords
and like into this, like uh,snowflake, um hexagram, you know
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, you've seen it um how he kindof like sealed him into place
and then he kind of like droppedthat little bit of rage.
He's down on the ground.
And then he uh was like oh, hey, man, like when were you have a
badass moment?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
like they really uh drizzled that sauce on his
moment but then they wind upgetting on to him right after
that because, keep in mind,after that fight he winds up
getting pinned down by what was?
It was a dude.
It wasn't Dahls but the Dukeyeah, he was.
He used Dahls and whatever hewould stab the Dahl, it would
damage their internal organs.
He wound up pinning down himand Renji and they wound up
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having to get saved.
Now, this nigga always creepedme out, but the captain that
took over after Urahara peoplewas like Urahara did respectful
uh, uh, uh, my, uh, my.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I know his first name is my yuri, but I forgot his
last name.
He's like something, somethingcrazy.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Technically, my race is actually his last name, but
anyway, um, but the thing aboutit is is that this dude yeah,
because remember everyone callswith a heart, with a hotter, but
it's so skate with a heart, hisname is so skate, just like
sasuke aizen.
That was like a little bondingmoment too.
But yeah, mayuri is actuallytechnically a class family name
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per se, but the thing about itis is that, yes, he was the only
one that could face againstthis duel, just being honest,
and we are talking a little bitabout the big fight, this does
kind of lead up to the finalbattle with Aizen and ichigo.
So this happens.
I guess, if I'm correct, it'slike season eight is when this
fight happens, if I'm correct.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, sorry,but um, we do have those
moments where you know he'sdangerous.
He's one of those ones.
He's like I modify my bankai.
He said why.
Everyone else is like oh, Ihave an absolute appreciation,
my bankai.
He's like no, I need to make mybunkai more dangerous, and the
most dangerous way possible.
My bunkai can kill me, and Imade it that way and then made a
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special antidote specificallyfor if my bunkai ever does try
to kill me and I'm sitting herelike.
Is this foreshadowing?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
uh, I think that's in season 10, like.
That's like get past in the newcaptain arc.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah okay, okay.
So yeah, it's a little bitfurther off, but you know it's
one of those ones that we.
It kind of creeps me out so Iapologize.
We'll talk more in that fightlater on.
But anyway, I do appreciate inthese seasons that we're getting
more of a power up.
They do invade the um, they dowind up invading the hall around
and the hueco mundo and keep inmind this, this is one of those
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ones that for the longest time,me, and like I was, like a lot
of other people thought huecomundo was hell.
Because the way the, the,because think about it this way,
the way it was first set up,towards the beginning of the
soul society no, not before it'ssoul side, in the first part,
it's easy to forget that thishappens, like it's really easy
to forget that this actuallyhappened.
So we have an understanding.
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If you have darkness in yourheart and you find yourself tied
on to the human plane, you'renot letting yourself go.
You don't allow yourself to gointo the reincarnation life
because you're supposed to dieon earth.
Go to the soul society for alittle bit.
Get reincarnated to beinganother human again.
That's how life works and that'show life works in bleach as far
as like this full-on belief inreincarnation, but this only
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also and this is also anotherweird thing kubo hasn't has
actually mentioned this, but itsays he may or may not expand on
depends on his health.
This, this is how it works inJapan's Soul Society.
Keep in mind and understandingeverything that's happening
right now, this entire story isjust Japan's Soul Society.
There is other Soul Societiesin other countries that are
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different and they're run verydifferent, so it's like the MCU
rules still yes, almost yeah.
So it's almost like a differentmultiverse, but technically all
on the same planet.
It's very weird.
Everyone has their owndifferent afterlife and they're
all run differently, but they'reall still kind of based onto
the soul king itself, onto thesoul king himself.
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So that's still a whole notherthing into it.
So Aizen trying to take oversoul society was not just japan
soul society, he was trying totake over everyone's soul
society anyway.
There's a whole lot more to it.
Again, read the, read the lightnovels.
You'll get more information onthat if you choose and get more
details.
But as well as once like you'relike oh, bleach, has some soul,
has some uh, world building,things like that.
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No, k Kubo has been limited.
He was told that he had tolimit down some of the stuff
that he wanted to do.
So this manga only touchedbases in a certain stuff.
So for a while Huecomundo wasbelieved to really be like hell.
But it did happen in the veryin like I think it was like the
third no, the second or thirdseason, I think the second
season where there was a hollowthat was so evil.
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He got dragged down to hell, tothe actual gates of hell, but
it only happened one time, soit's easy to forget that hell is
different from Hueco Mundo.
Hueco Mundo is like the void ofnothingness.
You're not so evil that you canpass on to hell.
You're not.
So you didn't live a good,healthy life because you're
still holding on to the earth,so you can't pass on to hell.
You're not so you didn't live agood, healthy life because
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you're still holding on to theearth, so you can't pass on to
the soul society, which is whythe Quincy's was such a danger
to the hollows.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
So you mean to tell me that the Hueco Munda is more
like the medium place?
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Pretty much, because what it is?
If you hold on to your humanexistence, you're not letting go
, and that's what makes Uquiorone of my favorite ones.
My second favorite Grimmjow'sstill my favorite, but Uquior
one of my favorite ones isbecause he's a hollow.
That's very different from theother hollows.
Every hollow is like.
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You hold on to one of the sevendeadly sins per se.
You hold on to one of yourhuman life, to something about
your human life, and it preventsyou from entering the
reincarnation cycle because youhaven't let go yet.
You have to learn to let go toallow yourself to move on.
They refuse to.
It's like they have unfinishedbusiness.
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The Shinigami slice their maskopen, reveals their true face.
They finally let go of what itwas that was holding them and
then they can reenter.
The reincarnation cycleMaintains balance in the soul
society, because the balance ofsouls is the balance of energy.
Quincy, when they kill a hollowactually eradicates them from
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existence.
I had mentioned this in thefirst part, but it's also here
where we get a moreunderstanding.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
That's what makes the whole thing kind of crazy.
That's why I said once againhow Bleach feels like he's
actually talking about something, because sometimes we just be
wondering what happens afterdeath and I'm like it can't be.
Just is you just die, andthat's it's like you.
Just kind of makes you wonder,like what if there was a soul
society?
Like what if we go to thesedifferent um realms like um, how
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would reincarnation really work?
Like sometimes I'd be wondering,like if it's like either you
just get reincarnated as atotally different person or,
hell, it could be like um, Iwant to say like joseph's
bizarre adventure, and also Iwant to say, futurama, how they
kind of dove into the whole ideaof how, uh, timelines just
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restart, um, you know, underdifferent circumstances,
depending on the choices beingmade by the um, humans or what,
uh, it happened in the earth.
And all that whole point beingis that it could either go as
you, either reincarnate assomeone completely different, or
, as far as we know, you coulddie.
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And next thing, you know,billions, billions of years pass
into the universe, the universestarts over again, billions of
years pass, you're born againand you have the deja vu moments
because, like, I feel like I'velived through this before.
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Technically you did, but youdon't remember it exactly.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
But what?
What makes hueco mundo sodangerous is that hueco mundo is
is so vast because it's linkedto all the other soul societies.
That's why it seemed likethere's almost an endless number
of hollows, because technicallykind of is an endless.
It feels like an endless numberof hollows because that whole
void is connected to every othersoul society that there is okay
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, guys.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I can also add on something that I recently well,
not really recently, but itcalls back to when we were
reviewing Doctor Strange 2,multiverse of Madness, where
America Chavez said that she'sthe only variant in all the
universes.
So she's like the only one ever, ever like.
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She's literally one of a kind.
That's also why she said thatshe can't dream, and they say
that in the movie that dreamsare more like, uh, highway to
another life yeah.
So in other words, like you kindof like jump to different um
timelines or whatnot.
So it's almost like, yeah, youcould kind of explore all the
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different possibilities of howyour life could have turned out
if you put it that way.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
I don't know.
No, no, true, true.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
It's one of those ones where there's so much into
it.
If you really want to get intoit, read light novels.
Kubo gets an opportunity toreally express himself.
He expresses the full historyof the soul society.
Right now.
You only get bits and pieces ofit from the anime and from the
manga because there's so manyother stories, there's so many
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other characters that he wantswriting about and throws into.
So it's one of those ones.
Like and keep in mind this one,like when I told y'all, like dbz
and rom and uh, dr and um tommy94 or something, I can't
remember the numbers.
But like those two guys theyread the light novels.
They've done tons of videosabout the characters of the
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light novels, how the lightnovels have broken down and
really kind of helps thestoryline A lot of those plot
holes that you think is there,that it's like oh, kubo never
really touched base further intothe other Kenpaches he does in
the light novels.
It wasn't pertaining to helpingthe story move forward so he
just left it out.
The manga it didn't help thestory move forward.
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But if you want that background, we're good to go.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Okay it, but if you want that, background.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
We're good to go, so, but, um, otherwise I don't want
there's not much else in thispart.
I don't have much else for thispart here, like for season six
through eight, because it'sstill just the very beginning of
the iran cars.
Um, we don't dive too much moreinto the other characters.
We don't talk about how Yamiwinds up changing numbers.
That doesn't happen yet.
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So this is just the buildup ofunderstanding.
We're understanding what'shappening.
We're understanding thatAizen's building this army, but
we also understand that they'reskeptical of him Because, yeah,
he showed up and gave them extrapower.
So they're skeptical of himbecause, yeah, he showed up and
gave them extra power.
So they're respectful of himbecause of that.
But they're also kind of someof them are afraid, because some
of them like, yeah, he'sprobably super strong and he
definitely would like kill us orsomething like that type of
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thing, and some of them are not.
Some of them are just like Irespect, you gave me powers.
I'm just going to kind of goalong with your plan because of
whoever it is one of those onesthat has been confirmed.
Specifically, the number one isspot on.
It was apparently either asstrong or stronger than aizen.
Um, pretty much probably beforethe hokioku, though, so that is
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something that's confirmed intoit is that aizen did not want
to fight hi, they just had arespect for each other can I
also say that I mean this it's.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
It should be really surprising, but what can I say?
I like how he starts Zanpato,because I'm like the only dude
in the entire series where hisZanpato is two pistols.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
It's the only dude with guns.
I think Kubo did that onpurpose, because he was supposed
to be kind of a top-out typething.
Think about this Everything'sbeen built on Samurai.
I mean, if it was Gunblade Iwould have understood it a lot
better, but no out type thing.
Think about this everything'sbeen built on Samurai, and I
mean, if it was Gunslaver Iwould have understood it a lot
better, but no, just Flicky.
But then I mean, when we get toThousand Year Blood War, we get
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more guns.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Okay, fair enough.
So, but because keep in mind,that's crazy I didn't watch
thousand year blood war yetbecause, to be fair, I was
reading the manga.
So I know about some of thedetails that happened thousand
year blood war.
That's why I'm telling you someof the details, but I'm trying
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to completely spoil, because Iread the manga way before this
anime even got greenlit.
So don't tell me that I don'tknow shit about this stuff,
because, trust me, that's how Iknew about Ichigo.
You know, that's why it was thethousand year blood war art
that got me convinced.
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You know what?
Ichigo is?
A fucking mutt.
He's a fucking mutt of anime.
I'm like we're're gonna explainmore of that later, when we get
to um the later parts.
But, yeah, I, I read thousandyear blood war when it was manga
only, but, uh, I didn't watchthe anime just yet.
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So, uh, there's a bunch ofdetails that kind of got lost,
because you know know, it wasyears since I read the manga
versus the anime finallyhappening.
You know, like for a few yearswe were assuming that um
Thousand Year Blood War is gonnabe like um Zad's Bell, to where
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, oh, we never gonna get theKing's Festival apparently.
I don't know why, but I'm likewould've been great if we did.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
That part I like it.
But, like I said, as far as thebeginning, I don't really have
much else for this beginningportion.
Like I said, there's much totalk about, definitely towards
Thousand Year Blood War too,site before we really get to
thousand year blood war, reallyunpacking the iran cars going
further into um, you know, fullbringers and stuff like that too
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.
So there's a lot to really kindof still dive into but it's not
much to really come up with thestopping at eight.
We don't really have much else.
The only thing that I would saythe best fight for that um I
appreciate season eight's fightwith um ichigo going at his full
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holoform but getting hit not asfull but getting his holoform
and going after grim joe andthat fighting of like really
getting a chance to see grimjoe's resurrection can I also
say I like how, when itio andgrim jaw fought, uh, it was like
okay, I see you kind of bangedup so I got a surprise for you.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Uh, I brought your girlfriend.
I was like like a woman, healhim now.
Now I'm like okay, because I'mlike I need to fight you at your
best.
It's almost like Greenjawessentially gave him a sense of
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me.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Pretty much, pretty much you know what.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah, I'm pretty much spent on the whole thing.
Anyways, there was some momentsthat I did like Between seasons
5 and 8, but I'm not gonna takeaway too much from Anyone who,
for some reason, haven't watchedBleach yet, but I'm assuming
that y'all did.
In any ways.
I'm not gonna spend too muchtime on what y'all probably
already watched.
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Ah, seasons 5 through 8.
Okay, I already said with theBoundary it was like 3.5 and
I'll still stand on that.
The Ron Carr arc so far I'mlike appending.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
If I can mention one other thing about the arrival of
the Ron Carrs, before we reallygot to the Espada, we got an
understanding it's kind ofanother world building thing
about the arrival of theArrancars.
Before we really got to theEspada.
We got an understanding it'skind of another world building
thing about when I mentioned theenergy of the Soul Society.
All the captains have to showup and they have to show up
weakened and it's hilarious thatwhen before we fought the
Espada, before we even reallymet the Espada, we just got just
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the Arrancars.
We get that moment of was it Ha guy wrong EQ and ikaku ikaku.
I feel so bad cuz his his bunkeyes forever broken.
I liked his fight but it wasjust it felt more short but his
bunk I was definitely marked asweak after this one,
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unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
Yeah, but can I also say that I like how Ikaku made a
whole deal out of?
Oh well, nobody's supposed toknow that I have a Bankai.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Don't tell anybody.
I told you this.
I mean he won't be able to useit no more, so it doesn't make a
difference now, unless heactually goes to get it repaired
.
But he doesn't want anybody toknow it.
So he forever has a brokenbankai.
We'll never see it again.
Right, it sucks, but um, likehow even the captains were, um,
even captain his guy it was oneof those ones is like they were
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losing that fight and like theiran cars was just like y'all
really this week.
Like we had the scissor guy todo with the, like the scissors
and stuff, and um he was like isthis really the best?
As y'all got like I reallythought even a captain would be
much stronger.
And then he's a guy had to belike you know what we're gonna
have to do it.
It's like yo, we gotta put on,we gotta remove our limiters,
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and he's like what we're gonnahave to remove our limiters.
He said we came here.
We're literally fighting atlike 10 power right now because
our power is so strong that itwould throw the soul society
into disrupt, into disarray, byputting our energy here into the
human world.
But you guys are alreadydisrupting it and we got to put
you down, so we're gonna have toremove our limiters.
Removes limiters, one shot.
Still wrong cars.
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I'm like really, oh, but I lovealso.
We get a tease.
This is my only last thing thatI have before I let you close
out.
We get a tease for his sugayaas far as his bankai, because
forever we're constantly beingtold with his bankai that, um,
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that his flowers, his iceflowers, that when he runs out
of his ice flowers he's going torun out of his bankai energy.
And we're constantly being toldthat because he's never stayed
in bankai long enough for all ofhis iceai energy.
And we're constantly being toldthat because he's never stayed
in Bankai long enough for all ofhis ice flowers to disappear.
So we have even he has no cluewhat happens when he runs out.
But when we do find out whathappens when his ice flowers run
(01:00:45):
out, you find out that it's nota timer down, it's a timer up.
But that's for another time,that's all.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I got.
Alright, then, with that beingsaid, let's just go ahead and
close out this part on that note.
That's the thing.
This is part 2.
Part 3 is going to be seasons 9through 12, and then part 4 is
going to be 13 through 16.
After that found your blood war, it's going to be 13 through 16
(01:01:13):
.
After that, thousand year bloodwar is going to be it's own
thing.
But that's the funny thing part4 being confirmed for 2025.
I don't know when is that goingto come out, but let's just
assume that we're going to comeback in December again to talk
about Bleach one more time.
But you know, until until partthree, just stay tuned for more
(01:01:38):
and we'll see you.
Then Remember to take it easyand all that other stuff.
all righty.
Then it's time for part two ofthe bleach extreme review.
Uh, I'm having a weird timedeciding how I'm gonna.
I'm thinking should I make thefirst eight seasons into one
part and then the other two intoone part, by two part, or into
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four parts?
But for now, part two we'regoing to be covering season five
through eight of Bleach.
That means that we're going tobe covering the second half of
the Bound arc and pretty muchthe Arrancar arc, like the first
leg of it, because it's likesix seasons of that, and I know
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the last season is the fullbring, and then of course it's
like some filler sprinkled in,but for the most part it's like
six seasons total for Ron Carrbecause of like six parts.
Yeah, let's go ahead and getinto it Now.
For starters, season five.
For starters Season 5.
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This is the part where, okay,the Bounce decided to invade
Soul Society, get their revengeand all that, and Talos was
saying that it was better thanwhat we give it credit for and
honestly, once again, I stillkind of don't care for it.
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But I do appreciate it more nowbecause I just like the part
where, uh, it was just put intoperspective how the soul society
is more so morally gray thanthe actual good guys, because
you're thinking like, okay, theygot me the good guys, and then
there's the bad guys and I'mlike no, soul Society is more
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morally great.
It's like they have laws, theyhave their rules and all that,
but for the most part it's likeif they don't feel like helping
you, they're not going to helpyou.
But anyway, it kind ofintroduced this whole idea that,
okay, the Soul Society createdthe bounce and kind of tried to,
um, brush them under the rugand cario wanted to get their
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revenge and all that, and itjust kind of makes you think
that, okay, soul society can bekind of sus and that's
interesting.
But uh, outside of that, youknow, it was like like it was
better than I gave it credit forinitially, but even then it's
like, eh, it didn't change, itwas like not really that
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game-changing, but it just kindof put things into perspective.
I don't know if I ranked orgraded the other arcs, but in
case I didn't substitute SoulReaper arc, I give that a Hmm, 3
out of 5 stars.
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You know, introductory arcDidn't really do much, but it
did kinda Was able to introduceCharacters in a way that's like,
okay, well, uh, at least itwasn't getting too boring.
Uh, soul Society arc, I wouldgive that a solid 4.
Characters in a way that's like, okay, well, uh, at least it
wasn't get too boring.
Uh, soul society arc, I wouldgive that a solid four because
it changed things from a worldbuilding point of view and a
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plot point of view.
Uh, the bound arc.
Dial it back to a three point5.
Yeah, because the one part withhow the society created the
balance is like okay, that'sinteresting, it's like society
can be on some such shit.
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But outside of that, if youliked it, cool.
If you didn't like it, I don'tblame you.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Could guess you got anything to add on to season 5
let's see you did actually do agrading scale onto the previous
ones um otherwise, like the mostsimplest thing into it is that
the bound arc.
I was like, eh, it's whatever,it's whatever, yeah, yeah, I get
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it.
The, the soul society createdthem, so therefore it should be
something pretty cool and thingslike that.
But for the most part it wasjust one of those ones I'm like
okay, like I kind of was justready to move on to the next arc
.
I'm not even going to lie toyou there.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Nah, I don't blame you.
Alright, let's go ahead andtalk about the Arrancar arc,
alright, so this is what.
Oh, um, kogatsu kind of gotbooted, I don't know why, but I
think he will come back in justa moment.
But uh, let's keep it moving,just in case.
Uh, this is the part where weget introduced to the Iran card
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and also the visors, and as soonas we got to get back in, we'll
probably get into that.
So, essentially, with the Irancard, they are hollows who have
removed their mass to gain soulReaper powers, and you get
things like the Iranrancar, likethe Grimjow Faxon showing up
(05:09):
trying to cause chaos andwhatnot.
Like I said, we got introducedto the visors.
Ezgo struggled to control theinner holo inside him, so he had
to get training from the visorsto master that so he can wear
the mask and have like a littlebuff for like 11 seconds.
There he is.
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Uh what?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
happened.
Technology, technology, sosorry, literally technology.
All of a sudden things startedgetting a little robotic for me
and then all of a sudden, boom,I wound up finding myself out
and I was like, okay, so I'mlike let me go ahead and fix
this real quick.
But we are good, my badcontinue gotcha.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, you didn't miss much.
I was just kind of doing ashort little summary of like the
beginning of the iran car art.
Uh, essentially hollows, um,the iran car, you know, hollows
that remove their mass to gainsoul reaper powers.
Uh, they show up trying tostart shit.
Uh, ichigo, he needs to learnhow to control the inner hall
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inside him.
So he goes to the visor toteach him how to master that
ability to wear the mask andhave like a little boost in
strength for like 11 seconds andwhatnot.
Uh, any thoughts about thatbefore we start talking about
the real meat and potatoes?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I mean, there's really a lot to unpack into
their wrong card itself, but asfar as the beginning.
So, after we had the bound art,I'll be honest, I wasn't sure
how to feel about the wrong card, but the thing about it is, the
benefit is that I was readingthe manga, so I didn't have to
worry too much about the boundpart.
Um, I like the beginning of thewrong card.
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I actually like it so much thatI have that.
I only have three Bleach mangas.
I'm gonna be very honest.
Okay, I was broke at the timeit came out.
I was still in high school.
It was difficult getting a jobwhile also doing marching band.
I was in like the super highhonors classes where I had to do
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a bunch of volunteer work.
It was a lot.
Okay, I didn't have money likethat.
So bear with me on this.
I have literally the beginningof three different arcs.
I have the very first bleachmanga, the very first book.
I have the first book when theyentered the soul society and
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then I have the first book atthe beginning of the Iran card
is very weird, just understandthat, whatever.
Anyway.
Of the wrong card, it's veryweird, just understand that,
whatever, anyway.
So, but that specific one wasthe only one that I actually
purchased.
The other two were given to meby our friends, so they was like
you ain't got no manga, I'mgonna hook you up, and I'm like
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that's not quite the best hookup, but you know what I appreciate
anyway, thank you.
I still have them, though, butit's the only one that I bought,
because the thing about it isis that when we understand the
beginning of this arc let's putin this aspect, soul society arc
we knew there were strongpeople when it came to the bond
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art.
We weren't sure if they weregoing to be strong or not.
And then come to find outtechnically strong.
Technically, not kind ofcheapskated powers, whatever the
case may be, it's filler, notcanon who cares as far as my
concern, but the Arrancars, whenthey introduced themselves, it
was a whole other thing.
Instead of creating newcharacter, we got pretty much an
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upgrade of these monsters thatwe had before, because, remember
, at the beginning the hollowswere the threat.
Hollows were a threat at thebeginning of bleach.
Then we get to soul society.
We're like man, hollows ain'tnothing.
It was almost like you madethem weak, like, oh, we've met a
minos grande.
In the beginning, ichigo tookdown a minos grande.
(09:03):
Oh my god, that's a big feat.
Go to Soul Society, captain'slike I can take down five, ten,
a hundred Menos Grandes whocares about that?
And you're like dang, y'alljust made them like nothing,
y'all turned them into Cytomine.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's like, yeah, that's what I'm thinking Like,
team Force are a lot to wear to.
Where, like, essentially, uh,vegeta was like break it down to
krillin.
To where, like, oh,congratulations, you defeated um
, the equivalent of one rat.
Meanwhile, nap is worth fiverat.
I mean, yeah, worth five ratsand I'm worth 15 rats.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And then, uh, it was like I hate all of you pretty
much because he made, likeReddit seem like a threat, like
it had to be, like Goku Piccolohad to team up, like these two
mortal enemies who would fighteach other on sight had to work
together to take down thisbigger threat.
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And then, like all of a suddenit was like, oh no, he was weak
and that pretty much nothing.
And you're like, wait, whatLike, what is this?
And so it was the same thingfor the minnows grand days.
Right, so the same thing forthe minnows grand days.
You're just like, oh okay,minnows grand days ain't nothing
.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And you're like, okay , hold on I like the way they
kind of explain it to it.
Oh, y'all don't, y'all don'tunderstand.
There's the gillian, right, uhright, and then they're like the
second highest.
I'm like I forgot what they'recalled again oh fuck it's, it's
gaping me, but I'm probablygonna remember it when we do
like part three, part four,whatever.
But uh, they're like the secondum level, that's like a little
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higher, it's like, okay, they'relike smaller than gilliam's,
but I'm more intelligent.
And then at the tippy top youhave to boss the lords and those
are the.
You really don't want to um bearound and the crazy part is how
eisen was like.
(10:54):
You know what?
I'm going to train up 10 busterlords to be espada and they're
gonna be like my little henchmen, kind of like a organization 13
and, crazy enough, it is aliteral organization 13 to wear,
including tozin itimaru and thetennis father 13 pretty much
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not wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So yeah, but yeah, yeah, there is, it's the gillian
, which is the weakest, minnowsgrandez, those ones apparently
with pointy noses.
They all look alike.
They're like the giant cloaksthat are pretty much just
mindless type thing.
And the Ajuchas, yes, becauseliterally that's what they're
called, yeah yeah, pretty much,because, like Ty, kubo really
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loves, like Hispanic culture.
There's one of the cool thingsabout it he loves Spanish.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Hold on, sorry, hold on, slide, change up.
Okay, I saw this one post realrecently, like literally
yesterday, where one dude waslike you know what, man, the
only thing about bleach that'seating good is the women.
And I'm like, okay, hold on,I'm not gonna disagree with that
part.
But, bro, I would disagree tothe parts where there's way more
to bleep that you're giving itcredit for.
For starters, bleep definitelygot that sauce.
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When it comes to culturalinfluence, like not only does it
have spanish influence, likewith the naming and some of the
music, bro, listen, la Barra, laEspada by Shiro Saigisu Got me
dancing like a Spaniard when Ihear those Spanish guitars going
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off in the background.
Ay, yo what up.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's true, especially when you think about how some
of the bankai is called out.
Like some of the bankai iscalled out, some of the Bankai
is called out in Spanish and inFrench.
Those two languages are heavilyincorporated into Bleach.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It's not just Spanish , it's German because of the
Quincy's and the Bounce, andalso the English because of the
Fullbringers, because the waythe Fullbringers, their
abilities, are based on Englishrock music.
So Bleach is culturallyseasoned.
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Culturally seasoned Not onlythat it has an iconic.
I'm sorry, I have to explain.
It has an iconic art design.
The music are bangers and theplot, eh, you know, the plot
(13:32):
kind of gets distracted here andthere, but for the most part
I'm kind of digging it.
Like, if you consider, okay, ifyou consider some two-soul
reaper art, okay, introductoryart, that's like a given, then
soul society, you can skip thebound art, go right into the
iran card, skip all these otherarts right here and there and
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just stick to eyes and all that.
It actually has a solid plot.
It just gets distracted withall the fillers.
And I'm not even mad about thefiller.
Like it's kind of come with theterritory when it comes to like
long format anime.
But sometimes I'm like can wejust get on to the good parts?
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You know what I mean,especially when you already been
down this road before it, likethe first time around, okay, it
was awesome.
Like I had no complaints so far.
But when you rewatch it I'mlike dang, I thought Bleach was
shorter than this.
It feels the pacing just feelsso much longer than usual.
Like what the fuck?
(14:36):
Like I thought there would havebeen, like like when I was
rewatching the Soul Society art,for instance, even then I was
sitting there like I swear toGod, I thought the Soul Society
Art was shorter than this.
It felt like they spent liketwo or three episodes fighting
each captain or lieutenant orthird, fourth, fifth, whatever,
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and I'm like I mean it's okay.
But that's why I'm saying Imean it's okay.
But that's why I'm like sayingwith Telo I'm like if he was
here I'm like I'm sorry, butthat's why I would say with
Bleach it would probably getlike a 4.5 at best right now,
because I just felt like thepacing felt a little sluggish
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here and there to a point whereI'm like I'm kind of ready to
get to that one part that I knowis going to slap, but that's
just me.
But for the most part, theRoncar arc, it was like
essentially the Roncar showingup, fucking shit up.
Vyra just helped EZO learn thepowers, and then next thing, you
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know, ukiyora and grim job, bythe way, two of my favorite
spotter out of the 10 like sofar.
Like, uh, I'm still.
Once we do part three and fourof bleach, then I might have a
more definite ranking of who'smy favorite spot.
But right now Rimja and Ukiyo-eare definitely my favorites
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like and, to be fair, they arefan favorites.
But you gotta understand thoughthey're just built different
though.
Yeah, essentially Orihime getskidnapped because with her
ability she can.
It's like goes beyond time andspace, regression, like they
said so in the anime.
(16:30):
By the way, I gotta say I don'tknow like I was re-watching
that sub and the way they kindof explain things where I'm okay
, I can't understand what'sgoing on now a little bit better
, but essentially, with orihime,her abilities like go beyond
time and space, uh, regressionis like you can, it's not just
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healing, but you can like makeit so that it never happened in
the first place, almost likesome jojo's bizarre adventure
type shit.
And I was like, oh, I need that, I need that, I need that to
get this whole shit off from theHogyoku, so I can like fuse
with, oh, jumping ahead.
(17:12):
But yeah, since we get her, Imean, it's gonna take a while
for the Hogyoku to fully awakenanyway, so we're just gonna keep
you while for the hugo q tofully awake anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So, uh, we're just gonna keep you around until the
time comes, and if your friendscome and save you, we're just
gonna kill them, so you might aswell like kill up all hope, and
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far as how things go into it,because with the introduction,
you know, I could get more of anunderstanding that there's more
classifications, there's muchmore of a build to the hollows,
they're not just a simple-mindedthing anymore.
I'm kind of getting more of afeel like there's something more
going on here.
We kind of get also anunderstanding of what Aizen was
up to, because, remember, thiswhole mount arc was kind of
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distracting from, well, what isAizen doing?
Aizen got what he wanted.
He got the jewel I was about tosay the Sikyon jewel.
I don't know if you're thinkingof the Aizen, anyway, this is a
very small pearl anyway whenyou think about it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
But you know he got you know there's gotta be that
big up in that everybody's likelooking at me true.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So you got the whole gyoku and it's like what is he
doing with it?
What is the benefit?
What is going on, what ishappening?
And we're just like kind ofleft in the dry.
The iran cars show up and we'relike, oh, we were created using
the hogioku.
Oh, okay, that's interesting.
Um, it says, shattered our maskand we got an opportunity to
kind of really showcase who wedo, what we do, stuff.
And we're like, oh, so it'slike okay, we have a new
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classification of hollow now andsomething that's kind of just
much, much more than it'salready been.
And it's like these hollows arenow organized as a group.
They're no longer seeminglymindless creatures, because even
the boss, even the vasalordesthey stay to themselves.
Otherwise hollows, they getstronger by eating each other.
These hollows are nowsignificantly stronger.
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They have pretty much their ownequivalent of soul reaper
powers and they don't have toeat each other in order to do
that.
They've just reached their ownequivalent of soul reaper powers
and they don't have to eat eachother in order to do that.
They've just reached their ownclassification of strength and
it's now it's like okay, hollowsare a threat again.
It feels like we found againsomething hollows are a threat
again.
We're finally understandingaizen's back and really what's
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going on and it really feelslike we're I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm sorry, but can you imagine aizen showing up in
hueco mundo and was like we'renow?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, but can you imagineeisen showing up in hueco mundo
and was like we're gonna makehollows great again I mean he
said I made this whole societygreat again and went from there.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Oh whoa we're gonna you mean that, you mean that,
mean that I made that was funny.
But um, but also like, yes,like you said, grim joe.
Grim joe was my favorite.
It's straight up like by, evenby now, even by a thousand year
blood war standards.
I'm just putting this, be veryhonest, onto this grim joe is
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still my favorite.
Grim joe is still relevant inthousand Blood War.
He actually comes and helps outquite a bit.
So he's still current andavailable and doing stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
He got the batata treatment.
He was so good.
I was like hey man, we gottabring Grimjo back.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Right.
Honestly, from my understanding, kubo actually had intentions
to continue on with Grimjoanyway, and that's the reason
why we got more of a story forit, because him it was him and
Uquior, remember he felt upsetthat he was second to him,
because Uquior just seems likewho cares, he's like it's like
you always seem so nonchalant,like you have Uquior who's the
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hollow, that has no emotion, andyou know well I'm not gonna.
We're not gotten to that pointyet.
But eventually we understandthat he understands emotion, but
this beginning portion, he hasno care for anything.
I was gonna say he like hedefinitely he's a master of
stoicism, for sure this is true,but that's also part of his
background is the fact that hehas had no emotion, while all
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other hollows would have thisfeel.
For I need to eat to get strong.
I need to eat to do this.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Ukuyora is one of the few, if not, I think, the only,
but he was pretty much born avasta lorde, in a sense and I
add on a little side time towhere I still remember this
conversation that orihime hadwith him, like she was still
like capturing all that, right.
And then ukuyora was like hey,I'm coming in and I'm like, all
right, so we brought you somefood.
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You need to eat up because westill need you alive, and all
that shit, like we could justinject you with nutritional or
injection or whatnot.
But like, hey, man, it's one orthe other.
So like whatever, like pickyour poison, you know what I
mean.
And I and keep in mind, likethere's like based on Chad
fighting one of the other EspadaI forgot what his name, noitor,
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that was the dude with like the.
It was like this crescent moon,double crescent moon, like
Zompot, so like the really talldude with the eyepatch, if you
remember that guy.
Anyways, he pretty muchone-shot Chad right.
And then, of course, likesensing energy and dragging
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Mosey, like everybody can sense,like spiritual pressure and
whatnot, and even Orihime cantell that something's wrong with
Chad, right.
And then, as soon as Uki walksin the room and Orihime, he was
like Chad's not dead, you know.
And I was like okay, and I waslike but he's not dead.
I was like look here, bitch.
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I'm not here to entertain yoursensibilities, like if he's
alive, whatever, if he's dead,cool, that makes it easier for
us.
But either way, him and allyour other little friends are
gonna die anyway, so I don'tknow why you even fucking care.
But if you're gonna touch themon anyway and then like, laugh
at me, I'll uh, you know what.
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Fair enough, I'm gonna be man.
He did all that with a stonecold face we are, does not care.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
That's what I'm saying.
He has no, from his whole thingis that he has no.
He has no understanding ofhuman life, of love, care,
anything like that, because hewas just born strong and so for
him all he knew was strength.
He recognized weakness, butdidn't care about others'
weaknesses because it was just awhatever type thing.
Everything to him was like eh,it's whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
It's kind of like that in the real world.
That's why I feel like I swearto God.
If anyone says that, oh, youknow, I can't relate to who you
are on a deep level, I'm like,yeah, I know what type of dude
you are.
Okay, I got you.
I know what you're saying.
Nah bro, some people feel likeoh well, you're a man like what
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are you doing with feelings?
Like what are you doing withfeelings?
What are you doing withemotions?
That sounds like some bitchmade shit.
I'm like hey, bro, whoa, I'msorry, my emotions make me human
.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, but then that's where Grimjo comes in, being
the exact opposite.
Grimjo was an underdog.
Grimjo was born weak and had toconsume and build himself up.
He built a posse.
He built his own little grouparound him as well too, and
being able to do so much moreand stuff and it was like all of
it was super important for himas far as growing up.
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So seeing someone who's sononchalant was like I was born
with everything, so I don'treally care about anything.
He's like I was born witheverything, so I don't really
care about anything.
He's like well, I had to buildmyself up to get here type of
thing.
I had to build myself up to berecognized.
I don't like that small look onyour face.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Hey, hey, hey.
Naruto versus Sasuke, the wholedynamic all over again.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, it's true, until we finally actually got an
understanding of Sasuke'sbackground story and technically
he was his underdog, of his own, of the ut himself.
So it's like okay, understood.
But yeah, from the whole bigfirst big part of naruto yeah,
most definitely naruto, likeit's always seemed like osasuke
was just born with it, he justhad it that's crazy too.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I was thinking the same thing with um.
Okay, aside from chad and rukia, the others I feel like they
have that Team 7 dynamic goingWell, not dynamic, but a vibe
going on between Ichigo, orihimeand Uryu.
Because you can definitely tellwith Ichigo like he's supposed
to be the main character, he'snot like loud mouth, like the
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typical one or like not thatdumb, but you know he's solid,
but you know he's Solid, youknow.
And then um Uryu, he comes upas this riot was like oh well, I
can't Stand you soul reapersand blah, blah, blah and all
that.
And um, once again, uryu, he'scool, outside of that he's cool.
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And then Orihime I still standby it, like I said in part one,
at least, with Orihime.
I still stand by, like I saidin part one At least, with
Orihime he's definitely notuseless.
They make it very clear thatOrihime is actually Low key,
overpowered, but he's more likeOne of the most overpowered.
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Support characters you everheard of.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Until they nerfed her .
But yeah, most definitely so.
I'm trying to think the onlyother thing I have as far as the
beginning into it.
I like that.
We have to deal with the othercharacters too.
You know, we get like what'shis dude name?
Nami.
I liked his, I appreciated hisstory.
Let me put it in this aspect.
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I appreciated his story becausewe see his growth throughout
these, these couple arcs.
He gets pretty easily defeated,um, his arm gets cut off and
he's like pretty upset about itand stuff like that.
But then, um, they wind upbeing able to repair his arm.
He has to test it.
This is also something very,very important if you're a major
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fan of Bleach.
If you're not, then Iunderstand you probably might
have missed this.
So when Nami gets his arm sewnback on and repaired, he gets it
sewn back on by like a spiderhollow.
So what happens is that, inorder to test out the strength
of his arm, he crushes her head,she falls and she falls and
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pretty much like, okay, she felldead he, so he just killed this
hollow that healed him, just toprove a point type of thing, or
anything like nothing like that.
So there is a book seriesthere's like several book series
for um, for bleach, and we cometo find out that that spider
hollow is actually not dead.
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She has such a strong healingability that she was able to
repair not only repair her head,but in actuality she's a
secretly overpowered character,but you only know about her from
the book, so we'm not reallygoing to talk too much into it.
Just understand that apparentlyshe's actually super
overpowered.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Was it that same Ron Carr that Temporarily replaced
Green Jaw?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That was a different girl.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Loopy also got Domed by Green Joe Boom was the same
way.
Okay, never mind.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
But no, no, the one that actually healed him, that
one that actually healed his armand sewed his arm back together
, that one is actually asecretly overpowered hollow and
is super powerful, to the pointthat she has her own little
story arc of how she became amajor threat that they had to
put down.
But it's only in the book.
It's only in the actual books,in the light novels.
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So just a little bit of thingthere too.
If you decide to read the lightnovels, there's significantly
more world building there.
Um, kenpachi, as we know, isthe eighth kenpachi, but we also
learned well, we haven't gottento thousand year blunt war arc
yet, but there are previouskenpaches.
Obviously we get a fullunderstanding of who all the
other previous kenpaches are inthe light novels also.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Let me just say I kind of was surprised by who was
like to say I'm kind ofsurprised by someone who was a
kenpache and um, not just a Idon't want to upset her the
first.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Honestly, when we get to thousand year blood war, I'm
gonna be honest with you, a lotof people were very upset with
how her story ends, so we'll getto that point, but anyway, um,
but no, it's like I like thisone because the light novels get
a chance to expand more intothese characters.
In the manga you don't get tosee it like that In the anime.
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We do get to see some of thoselight novels, just a little bit
of it added and incorporatedinto it.
So it's one of those ones, likeI mentioned in our first part,
that we talked about Is that Ido have appreciation of the
anime Because we get the mangaplus some.
When we stay camp Now, granteda lot of these extra filler
stuff, I'd be like, oh my god,okay, I do kind of be like it is
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kind of a lot of filler to me,but I do appreciate that it does
add into that world building.
It adds into this other powers,there's other classes, there's
other people, there's more thanjust these normalcy, and I don't
I mean we're moving forward, Iguess, as we're moving into,
because the rest of this is justpart of the Aronkar arc itself
too, like you already mentioned,as far as Chad and his power up
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, I like the fact that myfavorite group I'm going to put
it in this aspect, my favoritegroup is the Visors.
They are my favorite group, butit's also their.
All of their background storiesare extremely interesting, like
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understanding the roles thateach of them played, how each of
them played with hat and clogs,understanding that, like he
saved them when they were prettymuch dead and it was an
experimentation, there was noguarantee that they were going
to come back and finally gettingan understanding their first
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initial understanding ofIchigo's powers you got to
understand like I still stand bywhat I said in part once, where
, if it's not Aizen, it wasUrahara all along.
True, true, but the thing is,urahara was actually trying to
help.
That was all it was.
He wanted to make things better.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He was trying to help and all that shit.
But to be fair, a lot of shitwouldn't have happened without
Urahara.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
This is true, but he didn't do any of it on purpose.
Yeah not on purpose.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
He didn't cause it with a name.
I'm just saying likecircumstances, you know
happenstance.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Pretty much, pretty much, pretty much.
But yeah, it was like, but it's, they're full on understanding.
It's a whole lot to, it's a lotto dive into, but it's one of
those ones that's.
It's a great appreciation andunderstanding them.
Having to accept the hollowform of themselves,
understanding that they had tobe hollows and this is one of
the most important factors, likewhat happened with the visors,
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becomes a huge benefit of whathappens and helps out the soul
society in the Thousand YearBlood War arc.
But it originally started here.
It started from Urahara'sexperimentation.
It's like I never intended forthings to go bad and go left,
but it already went there.
I'm gonna do what I can to help.
All the people know is like oh,urahara abandoned the Soul
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Society and he left.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm sorry but what's crazy to me?
Kind of side-changy, but incertain angles, especially when
you actually see his eyes noteven see his eyes, but more like
when he takes the hat off andall that shit.
He kind of reminds me ofSpanner from Catechia Hitman,
reborn but with longer hair youever notice that I can see that.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I can see that.
So yeah but it's one of thoseones that that's what.
Again, one of the reasons thatI appreciate when we really get
to dive in these world buildingmoments into it, understanding
more about Ichigo's powers,because for the longest time
we're being told that by who webelieve to be Zangetsu later
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found out that's definitely nottrue.
But who we believe to beZangetsu is constantly telling
Ichigo I can't help you, I can'thelp you, and it's like talk to
him, talk to your hollow form,and it's like that conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I thought you were Zangetsu.
I'm like nah, you'll understandwhen we get to Thousand Year
Blood War pretty much, butunderstanding who, who the
hollow is.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And then we haven't gotten that background of him
accepting his hollow form yet,but he's understanding.
He's at that point.
He's like I'm about to takecontrol and I'm now going to
really take control of thishollow form.
And you understand that hisvisor powers are still weak
because he does not understandhis hollow form yet.
His visor powers are still weakbecause he does not understand
his hollow form yet.
He's been taught by the visorsthat, oh, you need to subjugate
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your hollow form, you need totake control of it.
Make it yours, type of thing.
And the hollow has told himthat multiple times too Make
your power, your own.
The whole king and horseconversation.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
He was like.
Both can either be the king orand horse conversation he was
like both can either be the kingor the horse, but it all comes
down to the mentality.
In other words, whoever is incontrol mentally has control of
the body.
If Ichigo shows any sort ofmental weakness, then Zangetsu
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will, you know, take over.
It's almost like, either yougotta control your demons or
your demons will control you.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Exactly so, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
it's one of those ones that we do love, and it's
one of those I love, so it'sfantastic, but the thing about
it is I'm trying to put Bleachon a deeper level, where I'm
like okay, bleach is kind ofabout something like when it's
not being distracting with awhole bunch of filler.
It actually is trying to saysomething, though, but then the
other thing about it is, too, awhole bunch of fillers.
I'm trying to say something,though.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Exactly.
But then the other thing aboutthis too, like you had touched
on with Orihime, understandingthe importance into it, aizen
saw Orihime's powers and he'slike yo, we need that, we need
that I'ma need that.
So he's like jumping in andhe's like yo, get her, snatch
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her up.
We need that.
So he's like jumping in andhe's like yo, get her, snatch
her up.
We need that and we're gonnamake her use her powers and
stuff for our benefit bring thatwoman to me now well,
understand it too, like howgreat power in her
that part.
But understand too how or hemade it so willing to help, like
how nice she's trying to be onthings and it's like she's like,
even though you're my enemy,I'm still willing to try to help
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out as long as you like you canbe a little bit nicer type of
thing.
You treat her nicely, she'lltreat you nicely and it's one of
the most appreciative thingsthat we have for him.
You know it's the same um, butI also do like the um, so each
to go gets his power.
But the one person's powerboost that I really want to talk
about because we still do get achance of getting a chance for
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him to really kind of come backis Oryu.
So in Oryu in the Soul Society,he lost everything.
He lost all his powers.
He broke the little.
Honestly, crazy enough.
I know it was a special glove.
When he snaps it, I swear itlooks like a plastic knife, like
it was so weird to me.
I'm just like it looks like youjust glue plastic knives on a
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glove, and I think that's howsome people made that cosplay
too, is that they actually justglue plastic knives on the glove
and that's how it looks andit's like I swear.
It's very crazy, um, but we'reunderstanding that he like he
lost his powers entirely, buthow he gets it back?
We introduce uru's dad and, ohmy goodness, you talking about
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most powerful dude out ofnowhere, absolutely this.
Just there's one of those ones,I'll be honest with you.
Grim joe's, my favorite, uh, um, iron car.
But as far as my favoritecharacter from bleach I'm not
gonna lie to you, it would be,and I have major respect for his
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dad, especially now that Ifully understand his story, at
this point we just think he's anabsolute jerk.
But the smackdown that he laidon his son I'm talking about.
I was watching JJK and y'allalready know the Shibuya arc
when, oh boy, tope, oh mygoodness, I cannot remember his
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name.
Now, one of the main characters, the dude that always has he's
roasted on throughout theinternet Because he's known as
the crash out king, because allhe does is try, all he does is
get his behind, beat Megumi yes,megumi's dad, toby when Toby
whooped his behind.
When Toji whooped his behind.
I had flashbacks to Uriu's dadWhooping his behind, but Uriu's
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dad was so precise with it andthat's one of the craziest
things about it when he said itvery specifically, he was like
you need to be pushed to thepoint that you are about to die
and when you're pushed to thatpoint where you're looking at
death's door, you have to beshot at a specific point right
beside the left side of yourheart, a few centimeters over,
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and it'll reawaken your Quincypowers, because you technically
never lost them, they're justlocked away from you doing that.
And it was like this dude didit, so calculated, but he didn't
explain anything.
And so after he put his son onconscious and I was like what
didn't explain anything?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
until after he put his son unconscious and I was
like what.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
But that fight scene, bro, that that was just
fantastic.
Like it's one, like it wasfantastic I I love.
Also because we get a chance tosee um in the soul society that
uriu also has their own.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Like um, you say magic because you know they have
their own shinigami um spells,yeah, yeah, like, I like how,
even when she he was fighting umthat one shit, uh the moth lady
, uh suruchi, whatever it was uh, he was trying to say no, this
is not um flash step, this issomething entirely different
(40:04):
yeah, yeah, but it's the same.
It's all the same thing, butthey call it differently
depending on where you're fromoh, real quick, real quick,
before you say who are you firstof all, who are you is one of
those archers that makes me havegreat respect for archers, you
know like.
Green Arrow, Speedy Hawkeye.
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I'm like, hey man, y'all needto give some of these archers a
little bit more respect thanthat, because some archers are
like badass with it.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Second of all, who are you Hands down to me?
The best archer is from FateStay Night.
Archer from Fate Stay NightHands down best anime archer to
me.
Just saying that, Continuetalking.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
And second of all, when he like introduced the
energy swords, the steel Snyder,and he was like, oh, we don't,
it's like it's the first bladedweapon that we use, it's the
only bladed weapon that we use.
But even then he was explaininglike I never said that this was
a sword, and then he fuckingarmed and shot it bro, he was
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like what and um also like howhe also went up against uh, it
was this one spot, uh, don'thelp me, don't help me.
But uh, he also tried cyah world.
Um, he also tried to fight himand he always used the swords
and like into this, like uh,snowflake, um hexagram, you know
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, you've seen it um how he kindof like sealed him into place
and then he kind of like droppedthat little bit of rage.
He's down on the ground.
And then he uh was like oh, hey, man, like when were you have a
badass moment?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
like they really uh drizzled that sauce on his
moment but then they wind upgetting on to him right after
that because, keep in mind,after that fight he winds up
getting pinned down by what was?
It was a dude.
It wasn't Dahls but the Dukeyeah, he was.
He used Dahls and whatever hewould stab the Dahl, it would
damage their internal organs.
He wound up pinning down himand Renji and they wound up
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having to get saved.
Now, this nigga always creepedme out, but the captain that
took over after Urahara peoplewas like Urahara did respectful
uh, uh, uh, my, uh, my.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I know his first name is my yuri, but I forgot his
last name.
He's like something, somethingcrazy.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Technically, my race is actually his last name, but
anyway, um, but the thing aboutit is is that this dude yeah,
because remember everyone callswith a heart, with a hotter, but
it's so skate with a heart, hisname is so skate, just like
sasuke aizen.
That was like a little bondingmoment too.
But yeah, mayuri is actuallytechnically a class family name
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per se, but the thing about itis is that, yes, he was the only
one that could face againstthis duel, just being honest,
and we are talking a little bitabout the big fight, this does
kind of lead up to the finalbattle with Aizen and ichigo.
So this happens.
I guess, if I'm correct, it'slike season eight is when this
fight happens, if I'm correct.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, sorry,but um, we do have those
moments where you know he'sdangerous.
He's one of those ones.
He's like I modify my bankai.
He said why.
Everyone else is like oh, Ihave an absolute appreciation,
my bankai.
He's like no, I need to make mybunkai more dangerous, and the
most dangerous way possible.
My bunkai can kill me, and Imade it that way and then made a
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special antidote specificallyfor if my bunkai ever does try
to kill me and I'm sitting herelike.
Is this foreshadowing?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
uh, I think that's in season 10, like.
That's like get past in the newcaptain arc.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah okay, okay.
So yeah, it's a little bitfurther off, but you know it's
one of those ones that we.
It kind of creeps me out so Iapologize.
We'll talk more in that fightlater on.
But anyway, I do appreciate inthese seasons that we're getting
more of a power up.
They do invade the um, they dowind up invading the hall around
and the hueco mundo and keep inmind this, this is one of those
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ones that for the longest time,me, and like I was, like a lot
of other people thought huecomundo was hell.
Because the way the, the,because think about it this way,
the way it was first set up,towards the beginning of the
soul society no, not before it'ssoul side, in the first part,
it's easy to forget that thishappens, like it's really easy
to forget that this actuallyhappened.
So we have an understanding.
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If you have darkness in yourheart and you find yourself tied
on to the human plane, you'renot letting yourself go.
You don't allow yourself to gointo the reincarnation life
because you're supposed to dieon earth.
Go to the soul society for alittle bit.
Get reincarnated to beinganother human again.
That's how life works and that'show life works in bleach as far
as like this full-on belief inreincarnation, but this only
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also and this is also anotherweird thing kubo hasn't has
actually mentioned this, but itsays he may or may not expand on
depends on his health.
This, this is how it works inJapan's Soul Society.
Keep in mind and understandingeverything that's happening
right now, this entire story isjust Japan's Soul Society.
There is other Soul Societiesin other countries that are
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different and they're run verydifferent, so it's like the MCU
rules still yes, almost yeah.
So it's almost like a differentmultiverse, but technically all
on the same planet.
It's very weird.
Everyone has their owndifferent afterlife and they're
all run differently, but they'reall still kind of based onto
the soul king itself, onto thesoul king himself.
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So that's still a whole notherthing into it.
So Aizen trying to take oversoul society was not just japan
soul society, he was trying totake over everyone's soul
society anyway.
There's a whole lot more to it.
Again, read the, read the lightnovels.
You'll get more information onthat if you choose and get more
details.
But as well as once like you'relike oh, bleach, has some soul,
has some uh, world building,things like that.
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No, k Kubo has been limited.
He was told that he had tolimit down some of the stuff
that he wanted to do.
So this manga only touchedbases in a certain stuff.
So for a while Huecomundo wasbelieved to really be like hell.
But it did happen in the veryin like I think it was like the
third no, the second or thirdseason, I think the second
season where there was a hollowthat was so evil.
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He got dragged down to hell, tothe actual gates of hell, but
it only happened one time, soit's easy to forget that hell is
different from Hueco Mundo.
Hueco Mundo is like the void ofnothingness.
You're not so evil that you canpass on to hell.
You're not.
So you didn't live a good,healthy life because you're
still holding on to the earth,so you can't pass on to hell.
You're not so you didn't live agood, healthy life because
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you're still holding on to theearth, so you can't pass on to
the soul society, which is whythe Quincy's was such a danger
to the hollows.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
So you mean to tell me that the Hueco Munda is more
like the medium place?
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Pretty much, because what it is?
If you hold on to your humanexistence, you're not letting go
, and that's what makes Uquiorone of my favorite ones.
My second favorite Grimmjow'sstill my favorite, but Uquior
one of my favorite ones isbecause he's a hollow.
That's very different from theother hollows.
Every hollow is like.
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You hold on to one of the sevendeadly sins per se.
You hold on to one of yourhuman life, to something about
your human life, and it preventsyou from entering the
reincarnation cycle because youhaven't let go yet.
You have to learn to let go toallow yourself to move on.
They refuse to.
It's like they have unfinishedbusiness.
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The Shinigami slice their maskopen, reveals their true face.
They finally let go of what itwas that was holding them and
then they can reenter.
The reincarnation cycleMaintains balance in the soul
society, because the balance ofsouls is the balance of energy.
Quincy, when they kill a hollowactually eradicates them from
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existence.
I had mentioned this in thefirst part, but it's also here
where we get a moreunderstanding.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
That's what makes the whole thing kind of crazy.
That's why I said once againhow Bleach feels like he's
actually talking about something, because sometimes we just be
wondering what happens afterdeath and I'm like it can't be.
Just is you just die, andthat's it's like you.
Just kind of makes you wonder,like what if there was a soul
society?
Like what if we go to thesedifferent um realms like um, how
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would reincarnation really work?
Like sometimes I'd be wondering,like if it's like either you
just get reincarnated as atotally different person or,
hell, it could be like um, Iwant to say like joseph's
bizarre adventure, and also Iwant to say, futurama, how they
kind of dove into the whole ideaof how, uh, timelines just
(49:03):
restart, um, you know, underdifferent circumstances,
depending on the choices beingmade by the um, humans or what,
uh, it happened in the earth.
And all that whole point beingis that it could either go as
you, either reincarnate assomeone completely different, or
, as far as we know, you coulddie.
(49:26):
And next thing, you know,billions, billions of years pass
into the universe, the universestarts over again, billions of
years pass, you're born againand you have the deja vu moments
because, like, I feel like I'velived through this before.
(49:46):
Technically you did, but youdon't remember it exactly.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
But what?
What makes hueco mundo sodangerous is that hueco mundo is
is so vast because it's linkedto all the other soul societies.
That's why it seemed likethere's almost an endless number
of hollows, because technicallykind of is an endless.
It feels like an endless numberof hollows because that whole
void is connected to every othersoul society that there is okay
(50:12):
, guys.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I can also add on something that I recently well,
not really recently, but itcalls back to when we were
reviewing Doctor Strange 2,multiverse of Madness, where
America Chavez said that she'sthe only variant in all the
universes.
So she's like the only one ever, ever like.
(50:33):
She's literally one of a kind.
That's also why she said thatshe can't dream, and they say
that in the movie that dreamsare more like, uh, highway to
another life yeah.
So in other words, like you kindof like jump to different um
timelines or whatnot.
So it's almost like, yeah, youcould kind of explore all the
(50:54):
different possibilities of howyour life could have turned out
if you put it that way.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
I don't know.
No, no, true, true.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
It's one of those ones where there's so much into
it.
If you really want to get intoit, read light novels.
Kubo gets an opportunity toreally express himself.
He expresses the full historyof the soul society.
Right now.
You only get bits and pieces ofit from the anime and from the
manga because there's so manyother stories, there's so many
(51:26):
other characters that he wantswriting about and throws into.
So it's one of those ones.
Like and keep in mind this one,like when I told y'all, like dbz
and rom and uh, dr and um tommy94 or something, I can't
remember the numbers.
But like those two guys theyread the light novels.
They've done tons of videosabout the characters of the
(51:48):
light novels, how the lightnovels have broken down and
really kind of helps thestoryline A lot of those plot
holes that you think is there,that it's like oh, kubo never
really touched base further intothe other Kenpaches he does in
the light novels.
It wasn't pertaining to helpingthe story move forward so he
just left it out.
The manga it didn't help thestory move forward.
(52:08):
But if you want that background, we're good to go.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Okay it, but if you want that, background.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
We're good to go, so, but, um, otherwise I don't want
there's not much else in thispart.
I don't have much else for thispart here, like for season six
through eight, because it'sstill just the very beginning of
the iran cars.
Um, we don't dive too much moreinto the other characters.
We don't talk about how Yamiwinds up changing numbers.
That doesn't happen yet.
(52:41):
So this is just the buildup ofunderstanding.
We're understanding what'shappening.
We're understanding thatAizen's building this army, but
we also understand that they'reskeptical of him Because, yeah,
he showed up and gave them extrapower.
So they're skeptical of himbecause, yeah, he showed up and
gave them extra power.
So they're respectful of himbecause of that.
But they're also kind of someof them are afraid, because some
of them like, yeah, he'sprobably super strong and he
definitely would like kill us orsomething like that type of
(53:03):
thing, and some of them are not.
Some of them are just like Irespect, you gave me powers.
I'm just going to kind of goalong with your plan because of
whoever it is one of those onesthat has been confirmed.
Specifically, the number one isspot on.
It was apparently either asstrong or stronger than aizen.
Um, pretty much probably beforethe hokioku, though, so that is
(53:25):
something that's confirmed intoit is that aizen did not want
to fight hi, they just had arespect for each other can I
also say that I mean this it's.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
It should be really surprising, but what can I say?
I like how he starts Zanpato,because I'm like the only dude
in the entire series where hisZanpato is two pistols.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
It's the only dude with guns.
I think Kubo did that onpurpose, because he was supposed
to be kind of a top-out typething.
Think about this Everything'sbeen built on Samurai.
I mean, if it was Gunblade Iwould have understood it a lot
better, but no out type thing.
Think about this everything'sbeen built on Samurai, and I
mean, if it was Gunslaver Iwould have understood it a lot
better, but no, just Flicky.
But then I mean, when we get toThousand Year Blood War, we get
(54:23):
more guns.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Okay, fair enough.
So, but because keep in mind,that's crazy I didn't watch
thousand year blood war yetbecause, to be fair, I was
reading the manga.
So I know about some of thedetails that happened thousand
year blood war.
That's why I'm telling you someof the details, but I'm trying
(54:46):
to completely spoil, because Iread the manga way before this
anime even got greenlit.
So don't tell me that I don'tknow shit about this stuff,
because, trust me, that's how Iknew about Ichigo.
You know, that's why it was thethousand year blood war art
that got me convinced.
(55:06):
You know what?
Ichigo is?
A fucking mutt.
He's a fucking mutt of anime.
I'm like we're're gonna explainmore of that later, when we get
to um the later parts.
But, yeah, I, I read thousandyear blood war when it was manga
only, but, uh, I didn't watchthe anime just yet.
(55:26):
So, uh, there's a bunch ofdetails that kind of got lost,
because you know know, it wasyears since I read the manga
versus the anime finallyhappening.
You know, like for a few yearswe were assuming that um
Thousand Year Blood War is gonnabe like um Zad's Bell, to where
(55:47):
, oh, we never gonna get theKing's Festival apparently.
I don't know why, but I'm likewould've been great if we did.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
That part I like it.
But, like I said, as far as thebeginning, I don't really have
much else for this beginningportion.
Like I said, there's much totalk about, definitely towards
Thousand Year Blood War too,site before we really get to
thousand year blood war, reallyunpacking the iran cars going
further into um, you know, fullbringers and stuff like that too
(56:18):
.
So there's a lot to really kindof still dive into but it's not
much to really come up with thestopping at eight.
We don't really have much else.
The only thing that I would saythe best fight for that um I
appreciate season eight's fightwith um ichigo going at his full
(56:39):
holoform but getting hit not asfull but getting his holoform
and going after grim joe andthat fighting of like really
getting a chance to see grimjoe's resurrection can I also
say I like how, when itio andgrim jaw fought, uh, it was like
okay, I see you kind of bangedup so I got a surprise for you.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Uh, I brought your girlfriend.
I was like like a woman, healhim now.
Now I'm like okay, because I'mlike I need to fight you at your
best.
It's almost like Greenjawessentially gave him a sense of
(57:21):
me.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Pretty much, pretty much you know what.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah, I'm pretty much spent on the whole thing.
Anyways, there was some momentsthat I did like Between seasons
5 and 8, but I'm not gonna takeaway too much from Anyone who,
for some reason, haven't watchedBleach yet, but I'm assuming
that y'all did.
In any ways.
I'm not gonna spend too muchtime on what y'all probably
already watched.
(57:49):
Ah, seasons 5 through 8.
Okay, I already said with theBoundary it was like 3.5 and
I'll still stand on that.
The Ron Carr arc so far I'mlike appending.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
If I can mention one other thing about the arrival of
the Ron Carrs, before we reallygot to the Espada, we got an
understanding it's kind ofanother world building thing
about the arrival of theArrancars.
Before we really got to theEspada.
We got an understanding it'skind of another world building
thing about when I mentioned theenergy of the Soul Society.
All the captains have to showup and they have to show up
weakened and it's hilarious thatwhen before we fought the
Espada, before we even reallymet the Espada, we just got just
(58:29):
the Arrancars.
We get that moment of was it Ha guy wrong EQ and ikaku ikaku.
I feel so bad cuz his his bunkeyes forever broken.
I liked his fight but it wasjust it felt more short but his
bunk I was definitely marked asweak after this one,
(58:51):
unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
Yeah, but can I also say that I like how Ikaku made a
whole deal out of?
Oh well, nobody's supposed toknow that I have a Bankai.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Don't tell anybody.
I told you this.
I mean he won't be able to useit no more, so it doesn't make a
difference now, unless heactually goes to get it repaired
.
But he doesn't want anybody toknow it.
So he forever has a brokenbankai.
We'll never see it again.
Right, it sucks, but um, likehow even the captains were, um,
even captain his guy it was oneof those ones is like they were
(59:22):
losing that fight and like theiran cars was just like y'all
really this week.
Like we had the scissor guy todo with the, like the scissors
and stuff, and um he was like isthis really the best?
As y'all got like I reallythought even a captain would be
much stronger.
And then he's a guy had to belike you know what we're gonna
have to do it.
It's like yo, we gotta put on,we gotta remove our limiters,
(59:42):
and he's like what we're gonnahave to remove our limiters.
He said we came here.
We're literally fighting atlike 10 power right now because
our power is so strong that itwould throw the soul society
into disrupt, into disarray, byputting our energy here into the
human world.
But you guys are alreadydisrupting it and we got to put
you down, so we're gonna have toremove our limiters.
Removes limiters, one shot.
Still wrong cars.
(01:00:03):
I'm like really, oh, but I lovealso.
We get a tease.
This is my only last thing thatI have before I let you close
out.
We get a tease for his sugayaas far as his bankai, because
forever we're constantly beingtold with his bankai that, um,
(01:00:23):
that his flowers, his iceflowers, that when he runs out
of his ice flowers he's going torun out of his bankai energy.
And we're constantly being toldthat because he's never stayed
in bankai long enough for all ofhis iceai energy.
And we're constantly being toldthat because he's never stayed
in Bankai long enough for all ofhis ice flowers to disappear.
So we have even he has no cluewhat happens when he runs out.
But when we do find out whathappens when his ice flowers run
(01:00:45):
out, you find out that it's nota timer down, it's a timer up.
But that's for another time,that's all.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I got.
Alright, then, with that beingsaid, let's just go ahead and
close out this part on that note.
That's the thing.
This is part 2.
Part 3 is going to be seasons 9through 12, and then part 4 is
going to be 13 through 16.
After that found your blood war, it's going to be 13 through 16
(01:01:13):
.
After that, thousand year bloodwar is going to be it's own
thing.
But that's the funny thing part4 being confirmed for 2025.
I don't know when is that goingto come out, but let's just
assume that we're going to comeback in December again to talk
about Bleach one more time.
But you know, until until partthree, just stay tuned for more
(01:01:38):
and we'll see you.
Then Remember to take it easyand all that other stuff.
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