August 2, 2025 • 59 mins
When an animated film bursts onto the scene with such vibrant energy that viewers can't help but watch it multiple times, you know something special has happened. K-Pop Demon Hunters has rapidly climbed to become Netflix's #2 movie globally, captivating audiences with its perfect blend of catchy music, stunning animation, and surprisingly deep storytelling.
At its heart lies the journey of Rumi, a member of K-pop sensation Huntrix who discovers she's half-demon—a revelation that comes shockingly early in the film and sets the stage for a profound exploration of identity and self-acceptance. The film doesn't shy away from complexity, presenting characters with genuine moral ambiguity like Jinwoo, whose backstory evolves from victim to someone who abandoned his family. This approach elevates what could have been a standard animated feature into something much more meaningful.
The soundtrack deserves special mention, featuring earworm hits like "Soda Pop" performed by the fictional Saja Boys, the emotionally resonant "Golden," and the fourth-wall-breaking "Your Idol." These songs do more than just entertain—they drive the narrative forward and explore themes of duality, rebellion, and finding balance between conflicting aspects of oneself. The animation style, from the team behind Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, brings these musical numbers to life with fluid choreography and vibrant colors that make every frame a visual feast.
What makes K-Pop Demon Hunters truly stand out is how it weaves Korean mythology with modern pop culture, creating a world rich with potential that begs for further exploration. From theories about Gima potentially being Rumi's father to questions about Selene's mysterious past, fans are already crafting elaborate stories to fill in the gaps the movie intentionally leaves open. The film's willingness to show real consequences—people who are consumed by demon fire don't return—adds meaningful stakes that many animated features avoid.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Yo, what's good everybody.
This is Kokugatsu, and I gotMiss Sebi Phantom here and we,
of course, have to talk aboutthis fantastic new movie that
just dropped on Netflix.
Man, I'm actually supersurprised about this one,
because I've seen the previewsand at first I'm not gonna lie
the previews looked as though itwas supposed to be a TV series,
and when I looked at it I waslike, oh, this looks interesting
(00:24):
.
Okay, yeah, I'm probably goingto watch it, and I was trying to
get my kids invited into it andI'm like, maybe see if they may
like it or not too.
But not only is this movienumber one in the kids movies on
adults Netflix, it is stillreigning as number two of top
movies to watch on Netflix, andthat is, of course, that movie,
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k-pop, demon Hunters.
I got Sebi Phantom on the lineand she said that she also liked
this movie as well too, sebiwhat do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't think it's a like anymore.
I think I'm obsessed with thismovie.
I listened to the soundtrack onthe way to work because it is
addicting.
I watched it.
Yes, I watched it a ton oftimes.
I watch it.
Yes, I watch it a ton of times.
To be fair and honest, I evengot my husband involved.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I got my wife like he'll be like, yeah, let's
listen to some Saja Boys.
And I'm like Saja Boys.
And he goes, yeah, the SajaBoys, you know the idol song.
And I'm like, yeah, okay, we'regonna listen to that.
He's obsessed with it just asmuch as I am and it's a great
movie and I'd love to see.
I don't know if you saw thatthe sadra voice is the first
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k-pop group to be number one inthe united states yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I did because like k-pop has never been like one of
the biggest things in us,because like it was always a
whole thing.
We had our own pops, you knowboy bands and all that type of
stuff.
So when it once it came down tolike k-pop and j-pop, that was
kind of something that did pickup a little bit.
But some people was like, no,you're just copying america.
But the fact that, yeah, thefact that it's number one, is an
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excellent thing, it's like,yeah, it's, it's just that good
Soda pop is just it's popping.
My kid still thinks he's neverfinished the movie because he
got scared halfway through.
He's four, but every now andagain, you're my soda pop,
you'll be my soda pop pop.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yes, seems about right.
That's literally what I wasdoing, waiting for everything,
and I'm like soda pop.
Yeah, I'm singing it like I wasdoing a whole little dance and
everything like it's addictingyeah, it's getting the soldiers
pop and everything.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I will say, even for me, I was unsure if I was gonna
watch it because it looked likeit was good.
I'm like I don't know.
I probably meant I might justhave to watch.
Kids on my mind might not watchit.
Then there was a youtuber Ifollow.
He does these things wherepeople send him cash apps and
they send him some money on cashapp and tell him it's like hey,
I want to hear what yourthoughts on this one, which is
something I really think weshould start doing, because
(02:51):
making some money by givingreviews, Anyway.
But yeah, he wound up doing oneof them.
It was like the way he startedoff.
He says he asked me what's mythoughts on K-Pop, Demon Hunters
?
He said if Netflix does, notgive me a sequel?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
right now I'm canceling my subscription.
Seems about right, but it didtake maggie kang almost nine
years to make this true.
So, but be patient.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's made by the same people who
wound up doing into the spiderverse series, which, for one, is
like, clearly, you're sittinghere like, hey, they're taking
their time working on that.
You're like, well, what are youworking on it?
Better be good.
Boom releases this movie.
Never mind, you keep cooking.
You know what you're doing, youknow exactly what you're doing.
So I hope you, I hope you payfor the next, because I
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absolutely do want a sequel.
Um, but, generalization of it,absolutely love the movie.
For me it is an absolute 9.5out of 10.
I'm not going to give it afull-on, perfect 10 out of 10
because, like I said, I want asequel.
I want to continue it on.
You know, give me something alittle bit better.
We have more stories to reallydive into.
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But what would you say, sabia?
How would you rate this?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I think a 9.5 is very appropriate for this movie.
When I saw it first come out Ialso thought it was a series.
I thought we were going to beable to see More performances.
But I enjoyed the movie.
Don't get me wrong.
I just wish that we got alittle bit more backstory On how
the Huntrix Do out the decadesand we got to see more of um the
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saja boys and how they're like,how they became the demon group
.
You know, I wish there was alittle bit more, but I'm hoping
that's what the sequel if weever do get a sequel.
I hope that's what accomplishesmy theories oh same, definitely
so, without further ado.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We've gotten the generalization onto it.
Spoiler warning ahead at thispoint now as we go ahead and
dive into it.
So it's time to go ahead andzone in there.
So, when you mentioned as faras about the saja boys, yes,
there's actually so manytheories that wound up floating
about that.
One of the most popular onesthat I've seen so far is what
was it that?
The saja boys were?
Actually a boy band group thatsold their souls to try to
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become number one.
Unfortunately, it wound upfalling through and they wound
up becoming demons.
And then here comes Jinwoo, whowinds up finding them and then
winds up taking them and makingthem the Saja Boys.
The little thing into that iswhen it comes down to it with
the scene, when they're at thedoctor's office, right before
we're first introduced to theactual humanoid version of the
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Sasha boys, where in all thepictures there's a boy band
group that looks strangelyfamiliar to them.
As soon as we see that picture,then all of a sudden, we see
these boys.
Now that was a very interestingtheory.
Do you have another one, or wasthat something like you've
heard of?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
yeah, that was about exactly what I heard when that
picture and things of thatnature I did see that um.
I think another one that I alsosaw was that the first, the
first four sadra boys also camefrom around the same decade that
genu came from.
That kind of had a similarexperience where they gave up,
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where jeans like genu gave uphis um, like his poverty, to
become the best beeper player,things of that nature.
I saw that um, there was acouple of others out there that
was kind of floating, butnothing as popular as those two
gotcha.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay, yeah, so that was definitely sounds pretty
interesting if they did want tobe in even that far behind.
But considering the fact thatthey're considered such a minor
character into us, we focus moreon our three girls of the
huntrix and then jenny was onejust pretty much focusing on
just those four and how we'regetting an understanding for
them.
Now you mentioned that you dohave some other theories into it
.
I would love to hear whatyou're feeling about this right
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now yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So a couple of other theories in regards to um, the
huntrix, roomie, mirror and zoe.
It's got more to do with.
Like roomie, we see that whenshe's on, after she loses her
voice, she goes up onto the topof the building and she's really
upset and she screams and shepounds her hands down.
We've only seen her voicebecome echoed like that With one
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other character and that's Gima.
So I kind of have a theory whenGima is actually her father
Because of how powerful Rumi is.
We don't see that with Jinu, wedon't see that with the others.
We only see that type of powerwith Gima.
And that's where I think Seleneis kind of trying to hide that
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away.
Wish we got more of Selene tofind out where this information
comes from.
But Selene basically just tellsRumi like you need to hide your
marks and when the honeymoonturns gold G, like you need to
hide your marks and when thehoneymoon turns gold, gima will
go away and your marks will goaway.
So that kind of like brings upa line of is Gima like Rumi's
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dad?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
True.
And what made her think thatthis actually would be happening
?
Because it's definitely as welearned at the end of the movie,
we don't necessarily get a goldveil, but we get something a
little bit similar, butobviously, I would say, more
powerful.
Being more of a rainbow isshined to it, sheen to it would
be.
Her markings didn't go away.
Her markings stayed.
So, even if it wound up being agold veil, it's still the good
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possibility.
You know her markings wouldhave stayed there.
And then that point isquestionable of you helped us
make this gold seal, but you'reactually a demon how does that
work out?
Or even a half demon how doesthat work out, you know?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So it's a very interesting thing.
So I didn't necessarily hearinto that one, but that would be
pretty interesting as far as,like you said, with the echoes
into it, I always thought thewhole moon doing the echo was
just based upon the fact of herlike, uh, breaking her
concentration of it, because thewhole moon is created by the
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people, like what, the?
What it is is that the, the Iforgot exactly what they're
called, but the warriors thatthink that they wound up
gathering the soul essencetogether of all the people and
using that to create thatspecial barrier to hold the
demons down, because it isthrough them and that's why
they're like we need to.
When June says we're going togo after the actual source of
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the honeymoon itself instead ofconstantly going after them and
trying to take them down, whichalways fails.
Let's just get the people Right.
And as they started takingpeople's souls, started creating
holes in the home moon becausethey're not there, because they
took those people's souls, itcreated those little holes into
it and her echoing through itjust kind of aided into that.
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But I'm not entirely surethere's like so much more to
dive into.
It would be super amazing tosee a sequel of how that would
work out, because, yeah, it'slike we saw that at the very
beginning.
I will say that's one of thecraziest things for me on this
movie.
They threw the plot twist atthe beginning of the movie.
So it was like, oh okay,because usually this would be
something like maybe we wouldwait until we would go ahead and
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see how is this going to workout like later on in the movie
usually at about like, uh, likehalfway through or something
like that.
But we hit it at the beginningof the movie, instantly finds
out, oh, she's half demon, she'sgot marks, and boom, oh, wow,
okay, this is pretty awesome.
Um, how are we going to keepthis interest?
And then we wound up getting afurther on twist with jinwoo.
(10:21):
I love the fact that we wereable to hit that early on to
just explain how this story isgoing to break down and then
progress further with Jinwoo'sstory and see how we're doing
that as well too.
What did you think about as faras story?
Did you feel anything aboutthose twists coming so early on?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
So, regarding the twist, I liked that it was in
the beginning as well.
I also thought it came in a bitrushed.
I mean, to be fair, we werealso in the first 15-20 minutes
of the movie and bam, we'rebeing told Rumi is part demon,
which I get.
It definitely goes in with whywe want to take down the demons
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closer and towards the middleand end of the movie.
Um, I all I just felt like itwas kind of rushed in that
beginning portion and trying toget to the whole fact that we
have the sadra boys, gima honmoon, it's done true, I guess,
still so much more development.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It's like we hoped it would have been a series and
that's yeah.
It definitely ties more intothat.
9.5.
Again, it's still very highrating.
Obviously we love the music, welove the animation all into it.
But because there's so muchmore that we are so badly
wanting, it's like, yes, amovie's supposed to leave you
wanting, but usually, even ifyou do parts, sometimes unless
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it's like a to be continuedsituation you want it to be a.
I'm satisfied with this, butI'm ready for my next course,
not in a.
I've only eaten half my meal.
Where's the rest of it?
And it does kind of feel thatway like we left off where it
should have been a satisfyingending, but because of so much
lack of information it stillleft us so unsatisfied.
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Still enjoyed it, but where'sthe rest?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
as someone who's very prevalent in the fan fiction
community, I do want to say howfast everyone was writing
sequels of this movie.
June 20th.
That movie came out june 20th,20 minutes after that movie came
out.
June 20th, 20 minutes afterthat movie came out, ao3 was
bouncing with sequels already,like handwritten sequels.
People were writing fanfiction.
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It was fast.
So I do want to commend thefanfiction community for how
fast they got everything up.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Oh, most definitely they're going to be like it was
just that good.
But, yeah, definitely they werehitting that hard, very hard,
and so, especially when Netflixreleased this if I'm correct, it
released worldwide at the sametime, so it wasn't like it hit
one time zone before another one, it hit everybody at the exact
same time.
So it was very interestingseeing them kind of come up with
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those fanfics so quickly.
I actually haven't read any ofthem, but I started.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I those fanfics so quickly.
I haven't read any of them, butI started.
I read one.
I forgot the name of it.
Kudos to this person, becausetwo days later they already had
25 chapters up you got to sendme that link.
I kind of want to watch 22nd 25chapters already written.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You work fast jesus, yes, I'm trying to get stories
written up like that.
I just came up with a whole newchapter of my stories last
night, but that was one 25,jesus, okay exactly.
I get writers blocked halfwaythrough my chapters and you're
pumping them out already wow,okay, that's pretty cool,
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alright, so, yeah, I mean itdefinitely is so much more into
it.
So, out of all of ourcharacters so far, when it comes
down to it, we focus still soheavily for rumi and jin, but do
you have any other charactersthat you really want to focus on
into this movie as well?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
so we have rum, we have Jinu I would love to see
more of.
I guess I'd go back to Selene.
Selene I only get very tidbitsof.
She was a star, a sunlightsister.
She was one of the mainvocalists.
I just want more of her.
I want to know where she camein.
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After you know, it's just a lotof unanswered questions.
I want to see more of Celine.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, because there's so much to kind of dive into it
as far as like, what is thislike your sister that you're
protecting?
So she's so, you're like heraunt and that's why you're so
protective of things, or like,how has it been going up?
Because we only, like you said,we only saw her like a little
bit.
We saw they mentioned howstrict she is.
We saw her for that moment of aflashback, um, where she was
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where roomie was talking whenshe was a kid.
We saw a flashback when theywere inviting her to hot spring.
She would never go go to thebathhouse and she'd never go.
And then we wound up getting achance to see her at the end of
the movie where she winds upgetting confronted by roomie.
Based upon everything you toldme, it didn't work out and it
feels like you just kind of ledme astray, type of thing yeah, I
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have a love-hate relationshipwith celine.
I'm just saying I can understandthat's how they painted that,
but I think that was also onpurpose too.
It's one of those generationalcurse things.
Everybody has something intheir family that they're
technically shamed of and whenyou think about it, especially
going for the song Golden, it'sabsolutely my favorite song of
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the movie, which is crazy.
I have a bunch of songs thatdefinitely, but Golden is my
favorite song because itshowcases how the two other
girls, both Mira and Zoe, theyhave come to terms of who they
are and that's where, like, thatsong hits such a big thing.
It hits that big plot twist atthe beginning of the movie
because you wind up having likeone she's a rebel.
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You know, I was a rebel in myfamily, but now that's not
getting paid.
Epic line, by the way, justfantastic line anyway.
But that's how I get paid.
Epic line, by the way, it's afantastic line Anyway, but
that's her thing is the factthat she's like I'm that rebel
person, but I'm accepted that ofme and now I'm using that to my
advantage.
Me being a rebel works outbetter for me being a demon
hunter.
It works out better for mebeing the choreographer.
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I am out there, I just makethese new, different things and
it works for me and I'm able toutilize that.
Zoe, with her raps, doesfantastic.
She's battling two differentworlds and was able to find a
way to balance them.
And that's where we come downfor Rumi.
Rumi, technically, is rebellingagainst one of her natures.
She's either rebelling againsther demon nature by hunting
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demons or she's rebellingagainst her human nature by
hiding the fact that she's ademon and she's struggling into
that.
While Zoe found that balance,she has not found the balance
between her demon and her humanside.
The two bloods, two lines, windup mixing into her and it mixed
near perfectly because she is ademon who is able to be um was
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able to be a demon hunter.
She's able to utilize thoseabilities.
You don't see that happen foranyone else.
I couldn't imagine jinwu beingable to fight any other demons
like that.
To be honest with you, thatmight be a difficult task for
her versus she is still able topull out her soul weapon like
it's nothing.
She's able to still utilize allof that, but technically she's
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still part demon as well.
And how would that work out?
Somehow another is stillblended to her perfectly, but
she's not able to recognize thatbecause she's forced to hide
that all the time.
And so it's like goldenshowcases that both mira and zoe
, we have accepted ourselves forwho we are.
And Rumi thought that this washer chance to say oh, I've
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accepted finally who I am now.
But you didn't.
And I love the doctor becausethe doctor, everything the
doctor said was still correctand it was crazy.
It's like he's a whack doctorbut he everything he said was
still true.
He says you have so many layersto understand the whole of
something.
You got to understand each part.
You're only focusing on onepart but you're not focusing on
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the other, and that's where yourissues are coming.
Even if I don't know what theother part is, I think you do
and it's the truth.
It just resonated with me.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, that was beautiful.
That was gorgeous.
Like I couldn't explain it anybetter than what you've got.
Like you're there, you stilldon't go to the hot springs, but
you accepted who you are.
If you accepted who you are,you would have told your friends
.
But again, I understand.
I.
I've seen situations like thishappen before and again, again.
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It's why it's so beautifullyexplained, not just by you, but
by that crack doctor as well.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Especially him going to big eyes into it, Just like I
see you.
And then, oh my goodness,Looking at Zoe you're like
you're wanting to conform toomuch into what other people say.
Looking at Mira oh, I'm scared.
Let me back up.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You said your favorite song is Golden.
My favorite song is your Idol.
That is the best disbandmentsong ever.
10 out of 10.
That last song, your Idol.
They fed into the fans Out of10, the everything they.
That last song, your Idol.
They fed into the fans.
Like you can't tell me theydidn't feed into them fans.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Oh, it called out all of your issues straight up to
the point and then literallysaid I'm preaching to the choir
and it was like dang Preachingto the crowd, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, seems about right.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I'm like, I didn't feel like being Called out by a
song, but you know, I guess it'scatchy.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Don't look at me.
Don't look at me while you grabyour little chain.
Don't do that to me.
We'll fight.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's one of those ones where and it's funny that
I'm making this particularreference here, but going back
to like Last year with the feudBetween Kendrick and Drake but
just that one line that he woundup saying in the song Euphoria
he makes songs that pacify him,I make songs that electrify him.
That song right there.
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We hear so many songs that helpus escape From reality.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
But sometimes you need to hear a long as don't
tell you you need to confrontRight when it pans to Zoe and
her face is like really sad, andthen the smile comes up and I'm
like, yeah, that's me, that'sme, oh.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yes, it's the same into that.
But I'm like, okay, okay, butyeah.
Otherwise it's like we didn'tget.
I do feel like I wish we hadmore world building.
We didn't see as much of thedemon world like is that all the
demon world is?
It's just this one big towerthat's With him on top and then
everybody's just Around.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, I get it like Cause, what I Interpret from
like Um, from like the plot thatthere's more than just one
Country that has this Problem.
You know, like Gima might beKoreans, korea's like demon king
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or something of that nature.
And then america's gotsomething else and china has
something like I want to seemore of, like the international
stars, like who's runningamerica.
I've got a little fan fictiongoing of.
This is funny.
I have a little fan fictiongoing Of a group In oh my gosh,
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I just blanked all of a suddenIn Vatican City.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Ah, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Like I want to see more Of little, Like little
artists all over the place,because if Rumi, Zoe and Mira
are controlling the Han Moonfrom all over the United States,
props to you, but there's gotto be more.
I feel like the Han Moon juststretches over Korea and then
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the next person in China.
They're the ones controllingthat Han Moon, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I would could definitely understand that home,
especially cuz.
In fact, I was like theyemphasize it so much.
It's like they helped put thebarrier over the world and they
stress that a lot.
But then, yeah, like you said,zoe, she battles because he's
been to the United States also.
The only thing is, like youknow every how a lot of, a lot
of Asian movies do this theyrely on putting stuff in the
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background for you to payattention to.
Thankfully, like when we watchit there's stuff that isn't
English to read.
For example, we have momentswhere the people going missing
you know we focus that one onjust that town that they were at
.
That was like increasing a lot.
But they did have moments ofmentioning, like in the
background, as far as their song, when golden first dropped, it
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was the hit around the world andit showed various other songs.
When, um, their, when theirmanager was showing them a list
of their songs, like moving upto the chart and it showed a
bunch of actual famous songsfrom all over the world.
So it did did wind up saying asfar as, in that regard, golden
was a worldwide hit, it was thenumber one song across the world
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and kind of helping out.
So it doesn't quite answer thequestion, but it does kind of
push a little bit further intoit that it may wind up being
them that helps push thisbarrier across the world.
Maybe may wind up being themthat helps push this barrier
across the world, maybe.
But I could definitely stillsee what you're saying as far as
there has to be demon hunterselsewhere.
That's able to really kind ofput this together and I just can
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only imagine, like demonhunters like in America, pulling
out guns my soul, mine's mysoul, I'm shotting, got a Glock.
That's how the world perceivesAmerica anyway, exactly.
Might as well make us all abusiness.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Here's a question for you what happened to all the
people that went missing?
Do we just skip over that?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh no, no, so that's one of the things I do like
about this.
I appreciate some kid moviesthat do this.
We have shows where it's like,oh, there's a way to bring them
back, type of thing.
No, he's a demonic fire, heconsumed them.
They are gone.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
They're dead.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
They're gone.
It was like, hey, this is a kidshow, I'm sorry they're dead,
they're gone.
This is just gone.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It was like hey, this is a kid show.
How many people died At the endof the show?
Oh, let's see.
Halfway through the movie theycounted up to about 300 people
Going missing.
So by the end of the movieBecause they didn't stop
Everybody from going in, no Rumididn't show up Until like there
was at least About 20-, 30people that made it into the
fire before she showed up.
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So probably about 400 peoplemay have died this morning.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Tell you, back in my day your grandfather died
because he went on a train andthen he just disappeared.
We all know what happened tohim the entire train gone.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, the entire train was empty and that was.
That was scary.
I was like whoa so?
And then like the only thingthat was left was a close.
It was like cell dragon ball zhad popped up.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It started oh my gosh , that is a great.
Oh my gosh it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's like you take care of your soul.
Oh, my body disappeared too.
I thought the body and soul wasdifferent, but it's still
technically connected.
So if I don't take care of mybody, I'm definitely not taking
care of my soul, correct?
It seems you read JujutsuKaisen and you're like oh yeah,
the reverse curse technique.
That's right.
It's balancing the negativecurse energy in your soul that
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heals you.
That makes sense.
Your body is part of your souland it's like.
So now you understand why a lotof Chinese, japanese, korean, a
lot of Asian like medicine isbased on the three balances all
connected together.
It was still just like Icouldn't imagine going somewhere
and just seeing nothing but abunch of clothes Just laying
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around.
I'd be like call out of worktoday.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You walk in and you just turn right back around.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I can't make it why there's nothing but a bunch of
clothes and a train Ain't nopeople.
It's just a ghost train.
I don't even it why there'snothing but a bunch of clothes
and a train Ain't no people.
It's just a ghost train.
I don't even know how itstopped at the station.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Soda Pop is playing in the background, like I'm
going home.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You'd be like I don't want to listen to that one
movie.
Play Someone that says I don'twant to listen to that song no
more, and you'd be like why it'ssuch a great song is.
But every time I hear the song,people go missing.
It's weird, crazy right it's sowild well, listen to golden.
I feel like amazing inside, buthonestly that's just disappear
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feels like it's connectedsomehow.
Anyway, oh my gosh, but I didlove to see their interactions,
uh, between the two band groups,because that's it's hilarious,
because it's very true.
I have seen a lot of j-pop,k-pop interviews and game shows
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and that is very true, theirinteraction, where a lot of time
they just start picking on eachother and they'll do it in
public On purpose, to be like oh, you thought that you snuck up,
but we knew you were there.
We invite you to this game showJust to Kind of make fun of you
here In public and just see howyou handle it.
Oh, that business gets so grimy, it gets so grimy and I hate to
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say that I love the drama.
It'd be funny.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yes, when Not to go off tangent, but I watch a lot
of K-pop idol shows Like youwant to be the next K-pop star?
Yes, two years ago, a year ago,they brought the worst of the
worst onto the show Just to makefun of them because they
couldn't sing or they couldn'trap.
If you know exactly what I'mtalking about?
(28:26):
You know exactly what I'mtalking about, just that's it.
That's all I'm going to say,because, oh my gosh, I had to
stand back and go.
Y'all really brought thisperson up here.
It's not because of looks.
You brought this person upthere because they cannot sing
or rap.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yep up there because they cannot sing or rap.
Yep, I saw clips on YouTube.
It's usually that with FamilyFeud, I don't know what's up.
It'd just be hilarious.
Sometimes you gotta find themost embarrassing moments and
I'd be feeling so bad becausethere's some people that wind up
going off that stage crying.
They'd be really upset.
They'd be like oh, I'm so sorry.
Why did you allow yourself tocome here here?
You knew you couldn't sing.
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You knew what they were goingto do.
Not all fame is good fame, just.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I can't help but now listen to that song and be like,
yep, that's that person singing, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
That part exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Oh, what did you think of Sussy and derpy, the
tiger and the bird?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I love.
Oh my god, the crow Crow was ohit's a magpie.
It is.
It is to me.
Everyone keeps calling themcrow, but I've seen online a bit
, but online I bet.
Oh my goodness, I love the birdhe's sitting here talking about
.
Why does the crow have a littlehat?
I made it for the cats, but thebird's taking it, and the fact
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is you never see the bird's face.
You only see his profile withhis three eyes.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, so it was really funny On how they named
him.
They named the tiger derpybecause of his eyes, and then
the magpie um, they confirmed itto be sussy, because how sussy
is.
That's literally the onlyreason why they named him that's
perfect though it's.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
There's no, doesn't need to be anything more than
that.
It's pretty straight forward.
It's very suspicious, you verysus little bird, and it's like I
don't care.
And it's so sassy.
I do what I want to do.
Who cares?
Even those little moments inthe movie Was pretty great with
them.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
That's another reason why I think Genie was still
alive, because Sussy and Derpyare still alive and Only Genie
could control them.
Another reason why I think Genuis still alive Because Sussie
and Derpy are still alive andOnly Genu could control them,
unless he magically gave thepower To Rumi.
Other than that they're stillthere.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't think they were actually Controlled either
is the thing about it, because alot of times they did seem to
have a lot of their own Freewill for things.
They just kind of Showed upevery now and again and he used
them for, like, thetransportation, not translated,
but the transported the messagesback and forth.
Oh, that was still hilarious.
So old school through the cars,it's just like it's so old
school, it's so old and it waslike save the date and he's like
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so I thought he was wasn't thatit was thinking like oh my
goodness, I can imagine it playsperfectly, because in fact he's
like over 400 years old.
It makes sense he's gonna thinkreal old school way, very
literal with words.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
There's no play on words with him the elderly woman
coming up and was like get anew boyfriend, you can do better
.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Elderly woman coming up and was like get a new
boyfriend, you can do better.
It's like, oh my gosh, it's sofunny.
But yes, it's so many great andfunny moments into it.
I absolutely enjoy itwhatsoever.
It was a joy movie frombeginning all the way to the end
.
Even those moments that gotreal serious, fantastic all the
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way through.
So now we talked about ourfavorite songs.
Is there a least favorite songthat you have throughout the
movie?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Least favorite song, I would have to say Takedown.
I think the song is pretty.
I'm not going to say generic,but it's kind of like they made.
The song is pretty I'm notgoing to say generic, but it's
kind of like they made the songfor it.
They only sang it like a veryshort time and that's all we
hear about it.
For you to actually hear thefull song you have to go listen
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to the actual soundtrack of it.
But it's pretty repeating.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
If that makes sense.
I thought they played takedownalso at the credits, because it
was like I listened to thecredits, because that song was
playing throughout the entirecredit sequence as well, and I
can see what you mean.
As far as being pretty repeated, I mean considering the fact
that it was a song that waspurposely pushed as a not
finished type of thing becauseshe wanted to keep changing her
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lyrics because it didn't fit forher properly anymore.
It was like it felt too much ofattack and she started to get
more of the understanding of herdemon side, which, also, going
back really quick with thattheory that you mentioned, it'll
be very interesting.
Giwan was her father,considering the fact that he
even said himself she bears mymark, but I have no control over
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her, which is a veryinteresting thing, for that it
was.
They didn't question me furtherinto that.
I'm so upset.
Okay, so takedown.
So I would agree onto that.
One takedown would actually bemy least favorite song.
Again, not so much that it'snot so catchy, it's the fact
(33:44):
that it's not the song that I'mbumping the most when I'm
listening to this soundtrack,right Like the beginning, the
very beginning.
Oh, I'm listening to this song,straight off.
In fact, I imagine them jumpingoff the airplane, landing on
the ground, just like yeah, thisis straight up.
I love this Huntrix.
But yeah, I would have to sayTakedown would probably be the
(34:07):
least favorite one, but not thatit's not good, it's still up
there.
If you're giving these songs andthe rating's up a 10, you'd be
like.
Takedown was probably the 8.5,and the fact that that's
probably the lowest rating thatI would give it really speaks on
how good these songs are.
I don't like musicals like that, but there are two things out
or three.
There's three that I havewatched that are musicals that
(34:28):
I've actually watched all theway through, that I enjoyed, and
this is one of them, butotherwise I don't really like
musicals.
My daughter's been trying toget me to watch Hamilton and I'm
sorry I'm not the biggestShakespeare fan.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's not even Shakespeare.
What Okay?
You're talking to the wrongperson about this, because I've
seen it live.
I watch it every year for mybirthday.
I have Hamilton merch.
I'm not the person to talk toabout Hamilton Because I will go
off on a tangent.
It is why I didn't.
I had to record my own sideBecause of how long my side was
gonna be uh, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's fair, okay, I got you, I got you, all right.
Oh, okay, that is perfectlyfair.
So I'll leave Hamilton alone butit's just one of those ones I'm
just mentioning.
As far as, like, I don't reallylike musicals like that, I
don't like stuff that has a lotof singing, like I did when I
was a kid, but I don't know, asI don't want to be like, oh, as
I became an adult.
It's not that situation.
(35:26):
It's just the fact that Iappreciate such a good storyline
that I've noticed that a lot ofmovies, when they focus so much
on the singing and the songs togo through, it starts lacking a
story it relies so heavily on.
Just like, how can we fit thissong in versus this is the story
and we're gonna make a song fitwith the story per se and it's
(35:47):
like that's kind of been mylackluster thing today here's
another thing.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
That kind of like struck me a little bit.
Um, I listen to a lot of k-pop.
I'm a big islet fan, um girlk-pop group.
What I noticed that these songsare actually coinciding with a
lot of k-pop songs that arecoming out today.
A lot of k-pop groups are goingless of the korean route and
going more of the english lyricswith hints of korean inside of
(36:13):
it.
Um, so I did notice that a lotof songs in this movie is
reflecting what's popular now.
Um, because I've been listeningto girl k-pop groups for the
longest time, when twice becausethey're they have a song in
here called strategy their earlystages were nothing but korean,
but to see them elevated tokorean hints with english, um
(36:38):
main vocals, I'm seeing that alot more personally now.
So I'm wondering how.
I'm not really wondering, butI'm seeing that it's taking its
effect not only in actual songsbut into the movies as well.
I don't know if that was apurposeful thing because this
came out universal all acrossthe world type thing and you're
(36:59):
just trying to relate a bit more, or it's actually reflecting
today's music in k-pop true,true, okay.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, I could definitely see that it will say
I do feel like it is reflectingmore popular, because that would
.
That is what's most popularright now, that's what most
people are really listening to,so I could definitely see it
into that aspect.
Um, I mean, as far as my listI've mostly been listening to
I'm old school on my k-pop andj-pop, I kind of have things
mixed together um big bangtaehyung, um shiny I want to
(37:29):
listen to shiny because I lovetraining to it.
Yeah, she used to listen to itbefore she.
I wanted to pass it away, soit's like I can just kind of
stick with it.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Of course, g-dragon, oh my gosh g-dragon, that's a
name I haven't heard in forever.
Monster x, that's another onethat I used to listen to.
Um, going back to that twicething, I think if I can pull up
I've got my entire old like oldk-pop group NCT Dream.
(38:00):
I still like that.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
So, yeah, I have like a whole list of different that
I listen to, but mine is mostlyold.
It's not that I don't listen tomore new ones.
I just really like the old onesa little bit better to me, just
personally.
But it's not that I don't likethe new ones.
The new ones are stillfantastic and that's why I
absolutely appreciated the musicinto this movie, because it
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incorporated all the new stuffand still really really worked
out well.
So I really loved, kind of likehow that worked out.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
No, yeah.
Kudos to Twice, though, becausethey're the longest living
K-pop group right now.
Oh yeah, they were born nineyears ago and it's 2025 and they
still haven't disbanded yet.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Kudos to y'all love y'all, and now people are like
their music is popping a lotmore now because of this movie.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It really just hit.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Some people are like who's Twice?
I've never heard of Twicebefore, and then wind up
starting to listen to the othersongs.
They are hitting up chartsheavily.
Hitting the movie right was thebest decision, exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Making strategy for this movie best thing you've
ever done, because now you needto go listen to what Is Love,
because that is my favoriteTwice song ever.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Okay, okay, it's been a minute since I heard that.
I can't fully remember thelyrics of it, but okay, see,
we're putting you on y'all.
We're putting y'all we do.
We listen to a variety ofthings, like whenever we kind of
come into our podcast.
We love talking about stuffbecause we enjoy it, like this
movie really.
Just it was exciting.
I'm just like I love watching.
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Even before then, I used towatch a lot of korean movies
with my mom, like that was a bigthing.
She loves watching Chinese kungfu movies and then we watched
K-dramas and some of the Koreanmovies was just off the wall,
insane.
Super High School is a reallyold Korean movie and it's about
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these kids who have superpowers.
But they all go to high school.
But it's difficult living thelife of high school with
superpowers because they don'tget along that well and then
sometimes some of them arestronger than the teachers, so
like the strongest kid runs theschool type of thing and it's it
gets insane.
But it's one of those ones that,as insane as it is, it's still
(40:17):
just amazing to watch.
You just can't stop watching it.
So it's like so many differentkorean movies that I have seen,
so I've been into a lot ofkorean, japanese, a lot of
chinese films, um, a lot ofthailand films.
It's just so much of that, andyou'd be surprised hearing the
music and the incorporationthat's there.
So it's like it's one of thoseones like I'm waiting to see
(40:42):
what comes next, like I do wanta sequel.
I want a sequel, so bad.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I get it.
I want a sequel just as well.
I also saw that this movie alsotook a lot of inspiration to
other movies that are kind ofsimilar.
I think one is Queen andHyunsman.
This was kind of similar.
I think one is Queen andHyunsman.
This was kind of the similarthing going on.
I may be wrong, yell at me ifthat's the case, but there's a
(41:11):
lot of K-dramas that were justlike K-pop Demon Hunters.
So that trope is really therewith the whole they don't kiss,
the demon dies.
They never come back.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, because the kissing is also a purity thing.
That's still a very big thinginto it, like killing when you
do share a kiss.
That is that like giving ofyour purity, giving of yourself,
type of thing.
So it's kind of a big thinginto that.
Kissing is only for like you'reactually in, like this
animation, even when, just likedating, when it comes down for a
lot of, a lot of asian culturemovies, you don't see them kiss
(41:52):
like that at all.
Like when they do is usuallylike okay, we're about there's
like towards the end of theseries or they're about to get
married, otherwise, yeah, youknow, like never see it.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
The curtain falls down and all you can see is
their heads come together.
Yep, that's it, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, and this is all you need to see.
You don't need to see nothingelse.
Get out of here y'all dirtyminded.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Or you see the hands fold in with each other and it
fades into black.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Fades black.
Yes, oh gosh, but yeah.
So that's what I mean.
Otherwise, I can't really thinkthere's too much more because,
like I know we've talked aboutit, like there's so much more
that we wish they dove into withthis movie, but other than that
, there's not much there.
There isn't much there.
The most popular thing goingright now is how many people are
(42:39):
.
What I've seen on YouTube isdressing up as the Saja Boys
when they were doing Soda Popand just kind of recreating
their dance numbers.
I know that's been popular onTikTok and on YouTube and
Instagram.
It's crazy.
Otherwise, I mean, it's stillretaining top.
(43:02):
A lot of people still go backand watch the movie because it's
just fun, like it's just a niceenjoyable movie to go through.
Um, but yeah, I got my wife towatch it because I watched it
and I was like you gotta watchthis, you're gonna enjoy it.
And she was like, and my wifelike she predicts things so
early on in movies.
It's hilarious.
It's also could be a furysometimes.
(43:22):
And she's like at the beginningof the movie she automatically
knew she was like so I'm goingto guess that one of them is
either a demon or one of them ishiding some type of special
secret or something about demonsand watch and I'm sitting here
like she says you haven't seenthe movie.
She's this is my first timewatching it and I'm like well,
thankfully the twist doesn'tcome until later on.
It actually comes like in thenext two minutes and she's like
(43:45):
see I knew it.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, my husband did the same exact thing.
He goes that one's a demon andI'm like thanks, babe, I already
watched it, but you got it.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
It's so mad.
Even if you know it, just keepit to yourself.
Just be quiet.
Even if you know it, just keepit to yourself.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Just be quiet, watch the movie.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Please you just do it .
I mean it makes sense when youthink about all the little
details into it.
I'm like I get that.
Just stop Enjoy the movie.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
You don't do this at Marvel movies.
I don't do this at Marvelmovies.
Even though I know it's comingnext, you shut up.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
That part.
I will say the only thing isbecause we kept focused so much
on that plot twist of Rumi beinghalf demon that we didn't focus
as much onto the fact that thetwist was Jinwoo actually
abandoned his mom and his sisterBecause the way he set up that
story as being that he made thedeal wound up losing them
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because the seal kept spreadingand stuff and then eventually he
was in the demon world.
It was so believable because wesee the worst of demons that we
don't focus on that.
A lot of those times,especially in a lot of Asian
cultures, demons take the worstof humanity.
It's usually not so much like,oh, this demon made me do this.
No, you were already inherentlyhaving that evil thoughts in you
(45:10):
anyway, it just gave you alittle bit of a nudge, and you
see that in a lot of religiouscultures that's a big thing too.
It's like, oh, the demons mademe do this, or the devil made me
do this.
But then when you really diveinto it, no, you had the
thoughts.
You just chose to go through it, through with it.
Yeah, that's just what it was.
(45:30):
And so that little twist in theend of him abandoning, I will
say that would call her bysurprise, because it was very,
we believe, the fact that he wasmanipulated into this aspect,
not realizing no, this is hisown punishment and then going
back and watching it the secondtime, even the third time I
watched it.
I've watched it three times.
So I know you said you bumpedthe soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah, I've watched the movie three times already
don't look at me, jeremy, don't,don't look at me.
I'm gonna itch my head and lookaway because of how many times
I've watched this stupid movie.
It is so good for no reason itjust is.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Look, because I have this whole theory for me anyway.
Anytime I watch a movie firsttime once for enjoyment, second
for analysis whenever I do apodcast.
So the thing about it is that Ienjoyed the second movie so
much I forgot to analyze it.
So I went to watch it a thirdtime to analyze it and many of
y'all are going to say that's anexcuse to say you enjoyed the
movie and I'm not going to say Ididn't enjoy the movie.
I enjoyed the movie.
(46:23):
I'm not going to say I didn'tenjoy the movie, I did.
That's why I'm saying thesecond time I watched it I just
went back just enjoying it againand forgot to analyze it.
I had to go back with themindset to analyze it so I could
do a proper podcast on it.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
You bring the notebook out, you sit down, you
go to watch it.
Movie ends, you look down atyour notebook.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Not thing on it, gotta watch it again that part
you just get like it's one ofthose ones that I know um, they
get mad at me sometimes, likeyou always have your phone out
during the movie.
I'm like, if you look at myphone, you'll notice I'm not
playing any games or anything.
What I am doing is I have mynotepad up and I'm taking notes
as I'm watching the movie.
Yeah, I do that all the time Idid that when I did the review
(47:03):
on the Fullmetal Alchemistmovies.
I was sitting here just makingnotes on my phone about
different stuff.
Now I don't have to pause, Ican just type it up as I go
along.
That way I can keep notes ofwhat's happened, keeping track
of what I didn't like, what Idisliked and things like that.
Yeah, for this movie, no matterwhat the list I went down was
just I need more death.
(47:24):
That's the main thing, is Iwant more death in these
characters.
And I understand it's like well, it's a kids movie.
No, it fit into a kids moviebecause of just the popularity
into it.
It was popping, it was fun, themusic was good and all that
type of stuff.
But realistically, no, youdidn't make this for kids.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
You made this for me.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, you made.
You didn't make this for kids,you made this for me.
Yeah, you made this for me.
That's what you did.
I'm watching and now you gotour attention.
You got us.
So now we need more death.
Let's go give us more of them.
Characters, we need to make ithappen.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Sequel or series exactly.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
We will watch it, just like Jackie Chan Adventures
Missed that show, anyway.
Now one last thing before I windup leaving off.
There is one last theory that Iwanted to talk about Unless you
have any more, pleasedefinitely let us know Is the
theory of Jinwoo's family.
So we understand the truthabout that, and I caught it the
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second time and third timewatching it was at the very
beginning.
When the demon hunters show up,they immediately show up right
when they're protecting thislittle girl, and the little girl
calls out to her mommy, and soa lot of people wind up doing
the comparisons and when youlook at it, it's crazy how the
mommy and daughter look almostexactly the same as Jinwoo's mom
(48:53):
and sister.
And so there's that theory oflike that, 400 years ago that he
wound up leaving his family,wound up being the biggest thing
to help spark the home moonbeing created, was wound up
being specifically because ofhis family wound up being there
was kind of just the biggestthing to help spark the home
moon being created was wind upbeing specifically because of
his family.
Wind up being there was kind ofjust the biggest thing that
allowed them to help create thatportion of the whole moon, that
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portion of the whole moon there, or just create it there and it
becomes a whole theory also ofthat site where the whole moon
was created at was why it isthat the girls were so big and
implementing so heavily on thefact that the whole moon has to
turn golden during the idolconcert, because the idol
(49:34):
concert would have been rightabove, right at the top, where
the um, the whole moon wasoriginally created.
But then it kind of hit a weirdtheory because it looked like
the family that they say itstarted homo was on the valley
versus where the movie ends offat.
We wound up ending with thefinal song them on top of a
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mountain per se, on top of agiant, but not really amounts of
a hill but kind of amounts inany way overlooking the city.
So I was like if the theoryfelt kind of like a stretch a
little bit, but still going intothe fact of just like the girl,
the girl and her mom lookingexactly like sister and mom was
a very interesting theory.
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What do you have on that one?
Speaker 2 (50:18):
yeah, I saw that theory.
Um, they did look reallysimilar to me the whole um where
the tree is.
When selene is braiding umroomie's hair, I think that
where that tree is.
I think that's where thehoneymoon started.
Um, yeah, I could see that but II really like your theory, I
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like other people's theorieswhere the whole, where that girl
and that mom Is the sibling,because they do look, that girl,
does just look like Jinu In theflashback.
I also like to think that thatwhole, the first generation of
hunters I think they were tryingto lure it To the fact that
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Jinu's sister Also became ahunter After that generation,
because it just goes fastforwards Into you have the first
generation.
I think it goes right into,like the 1920s.
It doesn't show anything Inbetween those.
So I like to believe that J NewSister also became A hunter
After that first generation.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
That would be dope.
I would definitely like seeingthat, okay.
So yeah, I mean like seeinglike a history of the hunters,
like you can make this, you canmake a sequel, sequel movie to
like either sequel or prequel, Iguess, to getting more depth
into what happened, as far asroomie's, like actual parents,
um saline, getting moreunderstanding of what happened,
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like with the movie into it oreven just like a sequel dream
was still possibly still beingalive.
But whatever the case may be, Idon't know or stick with how
most korean movies are that I'veseen.
They kill a person.
They're actually dead, but Idon't know.
There's just so many differentthings that we could probably
deal into it.
And then, as far as the series,the series would be fantastic.
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Being able to see all the otherdemon huntresses and them kind
of like continue on thegeneration that catches up, like
that would be a fantasticseries in itself.
Um focusing maybe even likejust each season, um being on
what that generation of huntersand as it passes down to the
next generation and the journeysthat they kind of go through to
help maintain the home wound,because clearly Selene, one of
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her biggest things was pushinginto how strict they are is you
have to hide your emotions.
You have to hide your emotionsso that way you can be strong
and clearly.
That had to start somewhere.
That had to start somewhere andthat might actually be an issue
throughout the hunters, or thatmight have just been Celine's
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generation.
Maybe Celine had an issue withthat.
Maybe um, or even Rumi's momthere might even be a case of,
like Rumi's mom had issues ofcontrolling her emotions or
frustrations and it wound upcausing a particular issue as to
why it is that um, he was soheavy set on with these, with
the huntrix, because it's notjust like his hate for the
hunters but something about them.
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He's been kind of like more intune to trying to really take
them down per se because of howthings probably were with
roomie's mom, and that wouldeven add on to your theory that
you had mentioned as far asabout the fact that um, he could
be her dad like, if that isactually the case.
So there's a lot of key factorsthat we can really dive into
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and I'm just curious to see whatmay happen.
So please give us a sequel atthis point.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
We are, we are begging, we are on our knees and
we are begging for the sequel.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
It's still number two in movies on Netflix right now.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
And it's number one in my heart.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Exactly.
Clearly we want it.
So take advantage, netflix,give them the money, let's do it
.
Let's get the ball rolling,like this is make this happen.
So, but that's all that I kindof have into it.
Is there anything that you wantto still talk about before we
end off on this movie?
Speaker 2 (54:15):
no, not really.
I think we covered all of thethings that I wanted to talk
about.
Oh wait, hold on the ending.
When, um, the hunters go outand they go see their fans first
off, want to say we pay a lotof money to go see their fans
first off, I want to say we paya lot of money to go see our
fans, so those girls being ableto touch their favorite artist
on the street is wild yes, bruh,before then they were always in
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like covering.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
They always had to cover themselves.
We got to put our hat on, wegotta cover up here, and stuff
like that.
Our fans can't see us.
We have to blend in.
So at the very end they're justlike you know what.
We're taking a break anyway.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Who cares, we'll just walk out as we are again the
fact that those girls can touchtheir fan, their favorite singer
, on the street, not having topay anything and I gotta go pay
almost a grand to go meet myfavorite star kudos to them.
That's wild.
I also like to think of onelittle small theory that the
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girls that they met at the endof the movie might be the next
they're gonna be the next.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yes, yes, I would definitely.
I feel a lot of people reallythought about that and I saw it
too, because we see this happenso many movies.
They have this all the time.
It's like you meet them andthen all of a sudden, like later
on they probably do liketryouts or something to see
who's going to be next singers,and they're like oh yeah, your
singing voice is amazing.
But not only is your singingvoice amazing, we can see your
souls resonating very well withpeople and you are the perfect
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next Hunter Instead of UniverseTicket you are the perfect next
hunter.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Instead of universe ticket, it's hunter's ticket.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Oh, that would be amazing just, but then also
imagine that.
Imagine the training processlike.
Imagine how that trainingprocess would go, all of a
sudden being like uh, so wesigned up just to be pop stars.
I did not know that we wasgoing to be actually hunting
demons here's a sword.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
Figure your life out.
Some 16 year old girl holding asword, like I wanted to sing.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
You're singing with a sword you do have to sing also.
So can we just go and swipe?
You can, but if you don't singand resonate your soul, it
doesn't actually power it.
That much music is like thepower of this world type thing.
It's like seriously, yeah, yeah, it's the power of our souls.
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I'm finna mess with my wife too,cause one of the things that
she loves is the the boy and thebeast, I think is what it's
called, and like.
One of her favorite lines isthat she loves is the boy and
the.
What is it the boy and thebeast, I think is what it's
called, and like.
One of her favorite lines thatshe would always mess with me
about was like you take thesword that's in your soul and
I'm just like I'm just going togo mess with her about this.
It's like it also isunderstanding yes, this is your
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soul resonant sword and you singto activate and only people who
can sing can activate.
If you can't sing, you're outof luck.
Like that's pretty messed up.
It was like happy feet all overagain.
All of a sudden I can't sing,so now I can't be part of the
group, oh my gosh.
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I mean, it works perfect for amusical.
If you don't sing, you can't donothing.
That's just how it works.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Happy Feet is just the hunters in Antarctica.
Speaker 1 (57:42):
That would be so hilarious.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
They protect the honeymoon by smacking their feet
Against the snow.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
Oh, oh, my god, everybody else gotta sing.
Oh man, that was just Hilarious, I don't even want to think
about that.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
I wanted that out of my head now.
I should have never saidanything, because that's all I
can think about it's another fantheory.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
It's spoiling.
Go ahead, write the fanfic.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
I was about to say that fanfictions do your worst.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
Oh gosh, but that is all that we got.
Fanfic is already there.
I was about to say thatFanfictions do your worst.
Oh gosh, that is all that wegot.
Excellent movie all the waythrough.
I absolutely love it.
I've watched it three times.
I'm definitely going to watchit a fourth time because one of
my kids hasn't seen it yet andhe's like on the fence.
He's like I'm not sure if Iwant to see it or not because,
I'll be honest, he is one ofthose kids that's like I'm not
really interested because itseems like a girl movie and I'm
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sitting here like dude.
It's not that I promise you,it's not that You're going to
enjoy the movie.
Just go ahead and watch it.
I said I'll watch it with you.
Have you already seen it?
Yes it'll be, but that's allthat we have right now.
So, guys, thank y'all so muchfor all of this that you do.
Thank y'all for listening in,thank you for staying with us.
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Yo, what's good everybody.
This is Kokugatsu, and I gotMiss Sebi Phantom here and we,
of course, have to talk aboutthis fantastic new movie that
just dropped on Netflix.
Man, I'm actually supersurprised about this one,
because I've seen the previewsand at first I'm not gonna lie
the previews looked as though itwas supposed to be a TV series,
and when I looked at it I waslike, oh, this looks interesting
(00:24):
.
Okay, yeah, I'm probably goingto watch it, and I was trying to
get my kids invited into it andI'm like, maybe see if they may
like it or not too.
But not only is this movienumber one in the kids movies on
adults Netflix, it is stillreigning as number two of top
movies to watch on Netflix, andthat is, of course, that movie,
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k-pop, demon Hunters.
I got Sebi Phantom on the lineand she said that she also liked
this movie as well too, sebiwhat do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't think it's a like anymore.
I think I'm obsessed with thismovie.
I listened to the soundtrack onthe way to work because it is
addicting.
I watched it.
Yes, I watched it a ton oftimes.
I watch it.
Yes, I watch it a ton of times.
To be fair and honest, I evengot my husband involved.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I got my wife like he'll be like, yeah, let's
listen to some Saja Boys.
And I'm like Saja Boys.
And he goes, yeah, the SajaBoys, you know the idol song.
And I'm like, yeah, okay, we'regonna listen to that.
He's obsessed with it just asmuch as I am and it's a great
movie and I'd love to see.
I don't know if you saw thatthe sadra voice is the first
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k-pop group to be number one inthe united states yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I did because like k-pop has never been like one of
the biggest things in us,because like it was always a
whole thing.
We had our own pops, you knowboy bands and all that type of
stuff.
So when it once it came down tolike k-pop and j-pop, that was
kind of something that did pickup a little bit.
But some people was like, no,you're just copying america.
But the fact that, yeah, thefact that it's number one, is an
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excellent thing, it's like,yeah, it's, it's just that good
Soda pop is just it's popping.
My kid still thinks he's neverfinished the movie because he
got scared halfway through.
He's four, but every now andagain, you're my soda pop,
you'll be my soda pop pop.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yes, seems about right.
That's literally what I wasdoing, waiting for everything,
and I'm like soda pop.
Yeah, I'm singing it like I wasdoing a whole little dance and
everything like it's addictingyeah, it's getting the soldiers
pop and everything.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I will say, even for me, I was unsure if I was gonna
watch it because it looked likeit was good.
I'm like I don't know.
I probably meant I might justhave to watch.
Kids on my mind might not watchit.
Then there was a youtuber Ifollow.
He does these things wherepeople send him cash apps and
they send him some money on cashapp and tell him it's like hey,
I want to hear what yourthoughts on this one, which is
something I really think weshould start doing, because
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making some money by givingreviews, Anyway.
But yeah, he wound up doing oneof them.
It was like the way he startedoff.
He says he asked me what's mythoughts on K-Pop, Demon Hunters
?
He said if Netflix does, notgive me a sequel?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
right now I'm canceling my subscription.
Seems about right, but it didtake maggie kang almost nine
years to make this true.
So, but be patient.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's made by the same people who
wound up doing into the spiderverse series, which, for one, is
like, clearly, you're sittinghere like, hey, they're taking
their time working on that.
You're like, well, what are youworking on it?
Better be good.
Boom releases this movie.
Never mind, you keep cooking.
You know what you're doing, youknow exactly what you're doing.
So I hope you, I hope you payfor the next, because I
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absolutely do want a sequel.
Um, but, generalization of it,absolutely love the movie.
For me it is an absolute 9.5out of 10.
I'm not going to give it afull-on, perfect 10 out of 10
because, like I said, I want asequel.
I want to continue it on.
You know, give me something alittle bit better.
We have more stories to reallydive into.
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But what would you say, sabia?
How would you rate this?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I think a 9.5 is very appropriate for this movie.
When I saw it first come out Ialso thought it was a series.
I thought we were going to beable to see More performances.
But I enjoyed the movie.
Don't get me wrong.
I just wish that we got alittle bit more backstory On how
the Huntrix Do out the decadesand we got to see more of um the
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saja boys and how they're like,how they became the demon group
.
You know, I wish there was alittle bit more, but I'm hoping
that's what the sequel if weever do get a sequel.
I hope that's what accomplishesmy theories oh same, definitely
so, without further ado.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We've gotten the generalization onto it.
Spoiler warning ahead at thispoint now as we go ahead and
dive into it.
So it's time to go ahead andzone in there.
So, when you mentioned as faras about the saja boys, yes,
there's actually so manytheories that wound up floating
about that.
One of the most popular onesthat I've seen so far is what
was it that?
The saja boys were?
Actually a boy band group thatsold their souls to try to
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become number one.
Unfortunately, it wound upfalling through and they wound
up becoming demons.
And then here comes Jinwoo, whowinds up finding them and then
winds up taking them and makingthem the Saja Boys.
The little thing into that iswhen it comes down to it with
the scene, when they're at thedoctor's office, right before
we're first introduced to theactual humanoid version of the
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Sasha boys, where in all thepictures there's a boy band
group that looks strangelyfamiliar to them.
As soon as we see that picture,then all of a sudden, we see
these boys.
Now that was a very interestingtheory.
Do you have another one, or wasthat something like you've
heard of?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
yeah, that was about exactly what I heard when that
picture and things of thatnature I did see that um.
I think another one that I alsosaw was that the first, the
first four sadra boys also camefrom around the same decade that
genu came from.
That kind of had a similarexperience where they gave up,
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where jeans like genu gave uphis um, like his poverty, to
become the best beeper player,things of that nature.
I saw that um, there was acouple of others out there that
was kind of floating, butnothing as popular as those two
gotcha.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay, yeah, so that was definitely sounds pretty
interesting if they did want tobe in even that far behind.
But considering the fact thatthey're considered such a minor
character into us, we focus moreon our three girls of the
huntrix and then jenny was onejust pretty much focusing on
just those four and how we'regetting an understanding for
them.
Now you mentioned that you dohave some other theories into it
.
I would love to hear whatyou're feeling about this right
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now yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So a couple of other theories in regards to um, the
huntrix, roomie, mirror and zoe.
It's got more to do with.
Like roomie, we see that whenshe's on, after she loses her
voice, she goes up onto the topof the building and she's really
upset and she screams and shepounds her hands down.
We've only seen her voicebecome echoed like that With one
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other character and that's Gima.
So I kind of have a theory whenGima is actually her father
Because of how powerful Rumi is.
We don't see that with Jinu, wedon't see that with the others.
We only see that type of powerwith Gima.
And that's where I think Seleneis kind of trying to hide that
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away.
Wish we got more of Selene tofind out where this information
comes from.
But Selene basically just tellsRumi like you need to hide your
marks and when the honeymoonturns gold G, like you need to
hide your marks and when thehoneymoon turns gold, gima will
go away and your marks will goaway.
So that kind of like brings upa line of is Gima like Rumi's
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dad?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
True.
And what made her think thatthis actually would be happening
?
Because it's definitely as welearned at the end of the movie,
we don't necessarily get a goldveil, but we get something a
little bit similar, butobviously, I would say, more
powerful.
Being more of a rainbow isshined to it, sheen to it would
be.
Her markings didn't go away.
Her markings stayed.
So, even if it wound up being agold veil, it's still the good
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possibility.
You know her markings wouldhave stayed there.
And then that point isquestionable of you helped us
make this gold seal, but you'reactually a demon how does that
work out?
Or even a half demon how doesthat work out, you know?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So it's a very interesting thing.
So I didn't necessarily hearinto that one, but that would be
pretty interesting as far as,like you said, with the echoes
into it, I always thought thewhole moon doing the echo was
just based upon the fact of herlike, uh, breaking her
concentration of it, because thewhole moon is created by the
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people, like what, the?
What it is is that the, the Iforgot exactly what they're
called, but the warriors thatthink that they wound up
gathering the soul essencetogether of all the people and
using that to create thatspecial barrier to hold the
demons down, because it isthrough them and that's why
they're like we need to.
When June says we're going togo after the actual source of
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the honeymoon itself instead ofconstantly going after them and
trying to take them down, whichalways fails.
Let's just get the people Right.
And as they started takingpeople's souls, started creating
holes in the home moon becausethey're not there, because they
took those people's souls, itcreated those little holes into
it and her echoing through itjust kind of aided into that.
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But I'm not entirely surethere's like so much more to
dive into.
It would be super amazing tosee a sequel of how that would
work out, because, yeah, it'slike we saw that at the very
beginning.
I will say that's one of thecraziest things for me on this
movie.
They threw the plot twist atthe beginning of the movie.
So it was like, oh okay,because usually this would be
something like maybe we wouldwait until we would go ahead and
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see how is this going to workout like later on in the movie
usually at about like, uh, likehalfway through or something
like that.
But we hit it at the beginningof the movie, instantly finds
out, oh, she's half demon, she'sgot marks, and boom, oh, wow,
okay, this is pretty awesome.
Um, how are we going to keepthis interest?
And then we wound up getting afurther on twist with jinwoo.
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I love the fact that we wereable to hit that early on to
just explain how this story isgoing to break down and then
progress further with Jinwoo'sstory and see how we're doing
that as well too.
What did you think about as faras story?
Did you feel anything aboutthose twists coming so early on?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
So, regarding the twist, I liked that it was in
the beginning as well.
I also thought it came in a bitrushed.
I mean, to be fair, we werealso in the first 15-20 minutes
of the movie and bam, we'rebeing told Rumi is part demon,
which I get.
It definitely goes in with whywe want to take down the demons
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closer and towards the middleand end of the movie.
Um, I all I just felt like itwas kind of rushed in that
beginning portion and trying toget to the whole fact that we
have the sadra boys, gima honmoon, it's done true, I guess,
still so much more development.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It's like we hoped it would have been a series and
that's yeah.
It definitely ties more intothat.
9.5.
Again, it's still very highrating.
Obviously we love the music, welove the animation all into it.
But because there's so muchmore that we are so badly
wanting, it's like, yes, amovie's supposed to leave you
wanting, but usually, even ifyou do parts, sometimes unless
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it's like a to be continuedsituation you want it to be a.
I'm satisfied with this, butI'm ready for my next course,
not in a.
I've only eaten half my meal.
Where's the rest of it?
And it does kind of feel thatway like we left off where it
should have been a satisfyingending, but because of so much
lack of information it stillleft us so unsatisfied.
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Still enjoyed it, but where'sthe rest?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
as someone who's very prevalent in the fan fiction
community, I do want to say howfast everyone was writing
sequels of this movie.
June 20th.
That movie came out june 20th,20 minutes after that movie came
out.
June 20th, 20 minutes afterthat movie came out, ao3 was
bouncing with sequels already,like handwritten sequels.
People were writing fanfiction.
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It was fast.
So I do want to commend thefanfiction community for how
fast they got everything up.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Oh, most definitely they're going to be like it was
just that good.
But, yeah, definitely they werehitting that hard, very hard,
and so, especially when Netflixreleased this if I'm correct, it
released worldwide at the sametime, so it wasn't like it hit
one time zone before another one, it hit everybody at the exact
same time.
So it was very interestingseeing them kind of come up with
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those fanfics so quickly.
I actually haven't read any ofthem, but I started.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I those fanfics so quickly.
I haven't read any of them, butI started.
I read one.
I forgot the name of it.
Kudos to this person, becausetwo days later they already had
25 chapters up you got to sendme that link.
I kind of want to watch 22nd 25chapters already written.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You work fast jesus, yes, I'm trying to get stories
written up like that.
I just came up with a whole newchapter of my stories last
night, but that was one 25,jesus, okay exactly.
I get writers blocked halfwaythrough my chapters and you're
pumping them out already wow,okay, that's pretty cool,
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alright, so, yeah, I mean itdefinitely is so much more into
it.
So, out of all of ourcharacters so far, when it comes
down to it, we focus still soheavily for rumi and jin, but do
you have any other charactersthat you really want to focus on
into this movie as well?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
so we have rum, we have Jinu I would love to see
more of.
I guess I'd go back to Selene.
Selene I only get very tidbitsof.
She was a star, a sunlightsister.
She was one of the mainvocalists.
I just want more of her.
I want to know where she camein.
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After you know, it's just a lotof unanswered questions.
I want to see more of Celine.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, because there's so much to kind of dive into it
as far as like, what is thislike your sister that you're
protecting?
So she's so, you're like heraunt and that's why you're so
protective of things, or like,how has it been going up?
Because we only, like you said,we only saw her like a little
bit.
We saw they mentioned howstrict she is.
We saw her for that moment of aflashback, um, where she was
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where roomie was talking whenshe was a kid.
We saw a flashback when theywere inviting her to hot spring.
She would never go go to thebathhouse and she'd never go.
And then we wound up getting achance to see her at the end of
the movie where she winds upgetting confronted by roomie.
Based upon everything you toldme, it didn't work out and it
feels like you just kind of ledme astray, type of thing yeah, I
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have a love-hate relationshipwith celine.
I'm just saying I can understandthat's how they painted that,
but I think that was also onpurpose too.
It's one of those generationalcurse things.
Everybody has something intheir family that they're
technically shamed of and whenyou think about it, especially
going for the song Golden, it'sabsolutely my favorite song of
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the movie, which is crazy.
I have a bunch of songs thatdefinitely, but Golden is my
favorite song because itshowcases how the two other
girls, both Mira and Zoe, theyhave come to terms of who they
are and that's where, like, thatsong hits such a big thing.
It hits that big plot twist atthe beginning of the movie
because you wind up having likeone she's a rebel.
(15:57):
You know, I was a rebel in myfamily, but now that's not
getting paid.
Epic line, by the way, justfantastic line anyway.
But that's how I get paid.
Epic line, by the way, it's afantastic line Anyway, but
that's her thing is the factthat she's like I'm that rebel
person, but I'm accepted that ofme and now I'm using that to my
advantage.
Me being a rebel works outbetter for me being a demon
hunter.
It works out better for mebeing the choreographer.
(16:19):
I am out there, I just makethese new, different things and
it works for me and I'm able toutilize that.
Zoe, with her raps, doesfantastic.
She's battling two differentworlds and was able to find a
way to balance them.
And that's where we come downfor Rumi.
Rumi, technically, is rebellingagainst one of her natures.
She's either rebelling againsther demon nature by hunting
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demons or she's rebellingagainst her human nature by
hiding the fact that she's ademon and she's struggling into
that.
While Zoe found that balance,she has not found the balance
between her demon and her humanside.
The two bloods, two lines, windup mixing into her and it mixed
near perfectly because she is ademon who is able to be um was
(17:04):
able to be a demon hunter.
She's able to utilize thoseabilities.
You don't see that happen foranyone else.
I couldn't imagine jinwu beingable to fight any other demons
like that.
To be honest with you, thatmight be a difficult task for
her versus she is still able topull out her soul weapon like
it's nothing.
She's able to still utilize allof that, but technically she's
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still part demon as well.
And how would that work out?
Somehow another is stillblended to her perfectly, but
she's not able to recognize thatbecause she's forced to hide
that all the time.
And so it's like goldenshowcases that both mira and zoe
, we have accepted ourselves forwho we are.
And Rumi thought that this washer chance to say oh, I've
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accepted finally who I am now.
But you didn't.
And I love the doctor becausethe doctor, everything the
doctor said was still correctand it was crazy.
It's like he's a whack doctorbut he everything he said was
still true.
He says you have so many layersto understand the whole of
something.
You got to understand each part.
You're only focusing on onepart but you're not focusing on
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the other, and that's where yourissues are coming.
Even if I don't know what theother part is, I think you do
and it's the truth.
It just resonated with me.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, that was beautiful.
That was gorgeous.
Like I couldn't explain it anybetter than what you've got.
Like you're there, you stilldon't go to the hot springs, but
you accepted who you are.
If you accepted who you are,you would have told your friends
.
But again, I understand.
I.
I've seen situations like thishappen before and again, again.
(18:43):
It's why it's so beautifullyexplained, not just by you, but
by that crack doctor as well.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Especially him going to big eyes into it, Just like I
see you.
And then, oh my goodness,Looking at Zoe you're like
you're wanting to conform toomuch into what other people say.
Looking at Mira oh, I'm scared.
Let me back up.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You said your favorite song is Golden.
My favorite song is your Idol.
That is the best disbandmentsong ever.
10 out of 10.
That last song, your Idol.
They fed into the fans Out of10, the everything they.
That last song, your Idol.
They fed into the fans.
Like you can't tell me theydidn't feed into them fans.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Oh, it called out all of your issues straight up to
the point and then literallysaid I'm preaching to the choir
and it was like dang Preachingto the crowd, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, seems about right.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I'm like, I didn't feel like being Called out by a
song, but you know, I guess it'scatchy.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Don't look at me.
Don't look at me while you grabyour little chain.
Don't do that to me.
We'll fight.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's one of those ones where and it's funny that
I'm making this particularreference here, but going back
to like Last year with the feudBetween Kendrick and Drake but
just that one line that he woundup saying in the song Euphoria
he makes songs that pacify him,I make songs that electrify him.
That song right there.
(20:22):
We hear so many songs that helpus escape From reality.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
But sometimes you need to hear a long as don't
tell you you need to confrontRight when it pans to Zoe and
her face is like really sad, andthen the smile comes up and I'm
like, yeah, that's me, that'sme, oh.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yes, it's the same into that.
But I'm like, okay, okay, butyeah.
Otherwise it's like we didn'tget.
I do feel like I wish we hadmore world building.
We didn't see as much of thedemon world like is that all the
demon world is?
It's just this one big towerthat's With him on top and then
everybody's just Around.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, I get it like Cause, what I Interpret from
like Um, from like the plot thatthere's more than just one
Country that has this Problem.
You know, like Gima might beKoreans, korea's like demon king
(21:26):
or something of that nature.
And then america's gotsomething else and china has
something like I want to seemore of, like the international
stars, like who's runningamerica.
I've got a little fan fictiongoing of.
This is funny.
I have a little fan fictiongoing Of a group In oh my gosh,
(21:51):
I just blanked all of a suddenIn Vatican City.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Ah, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Like I want to see more Of little, Like little
artists all over the place,because if Rumi, Zoe and Mira
are controlling the Han Moonfrom all over the United States,
props to you, but there's gotto be more.
I feel like the Han Moon juststretches over Korea and then
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the next person in China.
They're the ones controllingthat Han Moon, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I would could definitely understand that home,
especially cuz.
In fact, I was like theyemphasize it so much.
It's like they helped put thebarrier over the world and they
stress that a lot.
But then, yeah, like you said,zoe, she battles because he's
been to the United States also.
The only thing is, like youknow every how a lot of, a lot
of Asian movies do this theyrely on putting stuff in the
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background for you to payattention to.
Thankfully, like when we watchit there's stuff that isn't
English to read.
For example, we have momentswhere the people going missing
you know we focus that one onjust that town that they were at
.
That was like increasing a lot.
But they did have moments ofmentioning, like in the
background, as far as their song, when golden first dropped, it
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was the hit around the world andit showed various other songs.
When, um, their, when theirmanager was showing them a list
of their songs, like moving upto the chart and it showed a
bunch of actual famous songsfrom all over the world.
So it did did wind up saying asfar as, in that regard, golden
was a worldwide hit, it was thenumber one song across the world
(23:29):
and kind of helping out.
So it doesn't quite answer thequestion, but it does kind of
push a little bit further intoit that it may wind up being
them that helps push thisbarrier across the world.
Maybe may wind up being themthat helps push this barrier
across the world, maybe.
But I could definitely stillsee what you're saying as far as
there has to be demon hunterselsewhere.
That's able to really kind ofput this together and I just can
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only imagine, like demonhunters like in America, pulling
out guns my soul, mine's mysoul, I'm shotting, got a Glock.
That's how the world perceivesAmerica anyway, exactly.
Might as well make us all abusiness.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Here's a question for you what happened to all the
people that went missing?
Do we just skip over that?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh no, no, so that's one of the things I do like
about this.
I appreciate some kid moviesthat do this.
We have shows where it's like,oh, there's a way to bring them
back, type of thing.
No, he's a demonic fire, heconsumed them.
They are gone.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
They're dead.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
They're gone.
It was like, hey, this is a kidshow, I'm sorry they're dead,
they're gone.
This is just gone.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It was like hey, this is a kid show.
How many people died At the endof the show?
Oh, let's see.
Halfway through the movie theycounted up to about 300 people
Going missing.
So by the end of the movieBecause they didn't stop
Everybody from going in, no Rumididn't show up Until like there
was at least About 20-, 30people that made it into the
fire before she showed up.
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So probably about 400 peoplemay have died this morning.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Tell you, back in my day your grandfather died
because he went on a train andthen he just disappeared.
We all know what happened tohim the entire train gone.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, the entire train was empty and that was.
That was scary.
I was like whoa so?
And then like the only thingthat was left was a close.
It was like cell dragon ball zhad popped up.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It started oh my gosh , that is a great.
Oh my gosh it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's like you take care of your soul.
Oh, my body disappeared too.
I thought the body and soul wasdifferent, but it's still
technically connected.
So if I don't take care of mybody, I'm definitely not taking
care of my soul, correct?
It seems you read JujutsuKaisen and you're like oh yeah,
the reverse curse technique.
That's right.
It's balancing the negativecurse energy in your soul that
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heals you.
That makes sense.
Your body is part of your souland it's like.
So now you understand why a lotof Chinese, japanese, korean, a
lot of Asian like medicine isbased on the three balances all
connected together.
It was still just like Icouldn't imagine going somewhere
and just seeing nothing but abunch of clothes Just laying
(26:27):
around.
I'd be like call out of worktoday.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You walk in and you just turn right back around.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I can't make it why there's nothing but a bunch of
clothes and a train Ain't nopeople.
It's just a ghost train.
I don't even it why there'snothing but a bunch of clothes
and a train Ain't no people.
It's just a ghost train.
I don't even know how itstopped at the station.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Soda Pop is playing in the background, like I'm
going home.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You'd be like I don't want to listen to that one
movie.
Play Someone that says I don'twant to listen to that song no
more, and you'd be like why it'ssuch a great song is.
But every time I hear the song,people go missing.
It's weird, crazy right it's sowild well, listen to golden.
I feel like amazing inside, buthonestly that's just disappear
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feels like it's connectedsomehow.
Anyway, oh my gosh, but I didlove to see their interactions,
uh, between the two band groups,because that's it's hilarious,
because it's very true.
I have seen a lot of j-pop,k-pop interviews and game shows
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and that is very true, theirinteraction, where a lot of time
they just start picking on eachother and they'll do it in
public On purpose, to be like oh, you thought that you snuck up,
but we knew you were there.
We invite you to this game showJust to Kind of make fun of you
here In public and just see howyou handle it.
Oh, that business gets so grimy, it gets so grimy and I hate to
(28:00):
say that I love the drama.
It'd be funny.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yes, when Not to go off tangent, but I watch a lot
of K-pop idol shows Like youwant to be the next K-pop star?
Yes, two years ago, a year ago,they brought the worst of the
worst onto the show Just to makefun of them because they
couldn't sing or they couldn'trap.
If you know exactly what I'mtalking about?
(28:26):
You know exactly what I'mtalking about, just that's it.
That's all I'm going to say,because, oh my gosh, I had to
stand back and go.
Y'all really brought thisperson up here.
It's not because of looks.
You brought this person upthere because they cannot sing
or rap.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yep up there because they cannot sing or rap.
Yep, I saw clips on YouTube.
It's usually that with FamilyFeud, I don't know what's up.
It'd just be hilarious.
Sometimes you gotta find themost embarrassing moments and
I'd be feeling so bad becausethere's some people that wind up
going off that stage crying.
They'd be really upset.
They'd be like oh, I'm so sorry.
Why did you allow yourself tocome here here?
You knew you couldn't sing.
(29:03):
You knew what they were goingto do.
Not all fame is good fame, just.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I can't help but now listen to that song and be like,
yep, that's that person singing, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
That part exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Oh, what did you think of Sussy and derpy, the
tiger and the bird?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I love.
Oh my god, the crow Crow was ohit's a magpie.
It is.
It is to me.
Everyone keeps calling themcrow, but I've seen online a bit
, but online I bet.
Oh my goodness, I love the birdhe's sitting here talking about
.
Why does the crow have a littlehat?
I made it for the cats, but thebird's taking it, and the fact
(29:54):
is you never see the bird's face.
You only see his profile withhis three eyes.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, so it was really funny On how they named
him.
They named the tiger derpybecause of his eyes, and then
the magpie um, they confirmed itto be sussy, because how sussy
is.
That's literally the onlyreason why they named him that's
perfect though it's.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
There's no, doesn't need to be anything more than
that.
It's pretty straight forward.
It's very suspicious, you verysus little bird, and it's like I
don't care.
And it's so sassy.
I do what I want to do.
Who cares?
Even those little moments inthe movie Was pretty great with
them.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
That's another reason why I think Genie was still
alive, because Sussy and Derpyare still alive and Only Genie
could control them.
Another reason why I think Genuis still alive Because Sussie
and Derpy are still alive andOnly Genu could control them,
unless he magically gave thepower To Rumi.
Other than that they're stillthere.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't think they were actually Controlled either
is the thing about it, because alot of times they did seem to
have a lot of their own Freewill for things.
They just kind of Showed upevery now and again and he used
them for, like, thetransportation, not translated,
but the transported the messagesback and forth.
Oh, that was still hilarious.
So old school through the cars,it's just like it's so old
school, it's so old and it waslike save the date and he's like
(31:18):
so I thought he was wasn't thatit was thinking like oh my
goodness, I can imagine it playsperfectly, because in fact he's
like over 400 years old.
It makes sense he's gonna thinkreal old school way, very
literal with words.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
There's no play on words with him the elderly woman
coming up and was like get anew boyfriend, you can do better
.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Elderly woman coming up and was like get a new
boyfriend, you can do better.
It's like, oh my gosh, it's sofunny.
But yes, it's so many great andfunny moments into it.
I absolutely enjoy itwhatsoever.
It was a joy movie frombeginning all the way to the end
.
Even those moments that gotreal serious, fantastic all the
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way through.
So now we talked about ourfavorite songs.
Is there a least favorite songthat you have throughout the
movie?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Least favorite song, I would have to say Takedown.
I think the song is pretty.
I'm not going to say generic,but it's kind of like they made.
The song is pretty I'm notgoing to say generic, but it's
kind of like they made the songfor it.
They only sang it like a veryshort time and that's all we
hear about it.
For you to actually hear thefull song you have to go listen
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to the actual soundtrack of it.
But it's pretty repeating.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
If that makes sense.
I thought they played takedownalso at the credits, because it
was like I listened to thecredits, because that song was
playing throughout the entirecredit sequence as well, and I
can see what you mean.
As far as being pretty repeated, I mean considering the fact
that it was a song that waspurposely pushed as a not
finished type of thing becauseshe wanted to keep changing her
(33:03):
lyrics because it didn't fit forher properly anymore.
It was like it felt too much ofattack and she started to get
more of the understanding of herdemon side, which, also, going
back really quick with thattheory that you mentioned, it'll
be very interesting.
Giwan was her father,considering the fact that he
even said himself she bears mymark, but I have no control over
(33:23):
her, which is a veryinteresting thing, for that it
was.
They didn't question me furtherinto that.
I'm so upset.
Okay, so takedown.
So I would agree onto that.
One takedown would actually bemy least favorite song.
Again, not so much that it'snot so catchy, it's the fact
(33:44):
that it's not the song that I'mbumping the most when I'm
listening to this soundtrack,right Like the beginning, the
very beginning.
Oh, I'm listening to this song,straight off.
In fact, I imagine them jumpingoff the airplane, landing on
the ground, just like yeah, thisis straight up.
I love this Huntrix.
But yeah, I would have to sayTakedown would probably be the
(34:07):
least favorite one, but not thatit's not good, it's still up
there.
If you're giving these songs andthe rating's up a 10, you'd be
like.
Takedown was probably the 8.5,and the fact that that's
probably the lowest rating thatI would give it really speaks on
how good these songs are.
I don't like musicals like that, but there are two things out
or three.
There's three that I havewatched that are musicals that
(34:28):
I've actually watched all theway through, that I enjoyed, and
this is one of them, butotherwise I don't really like
musicals.
My daughter's been trying toget me to watch Hamilton and I'm
sorry I'm not the biggestShakespeare fan.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's not even Shakespeare.
What Okay?
You're talking to the wrongperson about this, because I've
seen it live.
I watch it every year for mybirthday.
I have Hamilton merch.
I'm not the person to talk toabout Hamilton Because I will go
off on a tangent.
It is why I didn't.
I had to record my own sideBecause of how long my side was
gonna be uh, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's fair, okay, I got you, I got you, all right.
Oh, okay, that is perfectlyfair.
So I'll leave Hamilton alone butit's just one of those ones I'm
just mentioning.
As far as, like, I don't reallylike musicals like that, I
don't like stuff that has a lotof singing, like I did when I
was a kid, but I don't know, asI don't want to be like, oh, as
I became an adult.
It's not that situation.
(35:26):
It's just the fact that Iappreciate such a good storyline
that I've noticed that a lot ofmovies, when they focus so much
on the singing and the songs togo through, it starts lacking a
story it relies so heavily on.
Just like, how can we fit thissong in versus this is the story
and we're gonna make a song fitwith the story per se and it's
(35:47):
like that's kind of been mylackluster thing today here's
another thing.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
That kind of like struck me a little bit.
Um, I listen to a lot of k-pop.
I'm a big islet fan, um girlk-pop group.
What I noticed that these songsare actually coinciding with a
lot of k-pop songs that arecoming out today.
A lot of k-pop groups are goingless of the korean route and
going more of the english lyricswith hints of korean inside of
(36:13):
it.
Um, so I did notice that a lotof songs in this movie is
reflecting what's popular now.
Um, because I've been listeningto girl k-pop groups for the
longest time, when twice becausethey're they have a song in
here called strategy their earlystages were nothing but korean,
but to see them elevated tokorean hints with english, um
(36:38):
main vocals, I'm seeing that alot more personally now.
So I'm wondering how.
I'm not really wondering, butI'm seeing that it's taking its
effect not only in actual songsbut into the movies as well.
I don't know if that was apurposeful thing because this
came out universal all acrossthe world type thing and you're
(36:59):
just trying to relate a bit more, or it's actually reflecting
today's music in k-pop true,true, okay.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, I could definitely see that it will say
I do feel like it is reflectingmore popular, because that would
.
That is what's most popularright now, that's what most
people are really listening to,so I could definitely see it
into that aspect.
Um, I mean, as far as my listI've mostly been listening to
I'm old school on my k-pop andj-pop, I kind of have things
mixed together um big bangtaehyung, um shiny I want to
(37:29):
listen to shiny because I lovetraining to it.
Yeah, she used to listen to itbefore she.
I wanted to pass it away, soit's like I can just kind of
stick with it.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Of course, g-dragon, oh my gosh g-dragon, that's a
name I haven't heard in forever.
Monster x, that's another onethat I used to listen to.
Um, going back to that twicething, I think if I can pull up
I've got my entire old like oldk-pop group NCT Dream.
(38:00):
I still like that.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
So, yeah, I have like a whole list of different that
I listen to, but mine is mostlyold.
It's not that I don't listen tomore new ones.
I just really like the old onesa little bit better to me, just
personally.
But it's not that I don't likethe new ones.
The new ones are stillfantastic and that's why I
absolutely appreciated the musicinto this movie, because it
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incorporated all the new stuffand still really really worked
out well.
So I really loved, kind of likehow that worked out.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
No, yeah.
Kudos to Twice, though, becausethey're the longest living
K-pop group right now.
Oh yeah, they were born nineyears ago and it's 2025 and they
still haven't disbanded yet.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Kudos to y'all love y'all, and now people are like
their music is popping a lotmore now because of this movie.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It really just hit.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Some people are like who's Twice?
I've never heard of Twicebefore, and then wind up
starting to listen to the othersongs.
They are hitting up chartsheavily.
Hitting the movie right was thebest decision, exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Making strategy for this movie best thing you've
ever done, because now you needto go listen to what Is Love,
because that is my favoriteTwice song ever.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Okay, okay, it's been a minute since I heard that.
I can't fully remember thelyrics of it, but okay, see,
we're putting you on y'all.
We're putting y'all we do.
We listen to a variety ofthings, like whenever we kind of
come into our podcast.
We love talking about stuffbecause we enjoy it, like this
movie really.
Just it was exciting.
I'm just like I love watching.
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Even before then, I used towatch a lot of korean movies
with my mom, like that was a bigthing.
She loves watching Chinese kungfu movies and then we watched
K-dramas and some of the Koreanmovies was just off the wall,
insane.
Super High School is a reallyold Korean movie and it's about
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these kids who have superpowers.
But they all go to high school.
But it's difficult living thelife of high school with
superpowers because they don'tget along that well and then
sometimes some of them arestronger than the teachers, so
like the strongest kid runs theschool type of thing and it's it
gets insane.
But it's one of those ones that,as insane as it is, it's still
(40:17):
just amazing to watch.
You just can't stop watching it.
So it's like so many differentkorean movies that I have seen,
so I've been into a lot ofkorean, japanese, a lot of
chinese films, um, a lot ofthailand films.
It's just so much of that, andyou'd be surprised hearing the
music and the incorporationthat's there.
So it's like it's one of thoseones like I'm waiting to see
(40:42):
what comes next, like I do wanta sequel.
I want a sequel, so bad.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I get it.
I want a sequel just as well.
I also saw that this movie alsotook a lot of inspiration to
other movies that are kind ofsimilar.
I think one is Queen andHyunsman.
This was kind of similar.
I think one is Queen andHyunsman.
This was kind of the similarthing going on.
I may be wrong, yell at me ifthat's the case, but there's a
(41:11):
lot of K-dramas that were justlike K-pop Demon Hunters.
So that trope is really therewith the whole they don't kiss,
the demon dies.
They never come back.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, because the kissing is also a purity thing.
That's still a very big thinginto it, like killing when you
do share a kiss.
That is that like giving ofyour purity, giving of yourself,
type of thing.
So it's kind of a big thinginto that.
Kissing is only for like you'reactually in, like this
animation, even when, just likedating, when it comes down for a
lot of, a lot of asian culturemovies, you don't see them kiss
(41:52):
like that at all.
Like when they do is usuallylike okay, we're about there's
like towards the end of theseries or they're about to get
married, otherwise, yeah, youknow, like never see it.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
The curtain falls down and all you can see is
their heads come together.
Yep, that's it, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, and this is all you need to see.
You don't need to see nothingelse.
Get out of here y'all dirtyminded.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Or you see the hands fold in with each other and it
fades into black.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Fades black.
Yes, oh gosh, but yeah.
So that's what I mean.
Otherwise, I can't really thinkthere's too much more because,
like I know we've talked aboutit, like there's so much more
that we wish they dove into withthis movie, but other than that
, there's not much there.
There isn't much there.
The most popular thing goingright now is how many people are
(42:39):
.
What I've seen on YouTube isdressing up as the Saja Boys
when they were doing Soda Popand just kind of recreating
their dance numbers.
I know that's been popular onTikTok and on YouTube and
Instagram.
It's crazy.
Otherwise, I mean, it's stillretaining top.
(43:02):
A lot of people still go backand watch the movie because it's
just fun, like it's just a niceenjoyable movie to go through.
Um, but yeah, I got my wife towatch it because I watched it
and I was like you gotta watchthis, you're gonna enjoy it.
And she was like, and my wifelike she predicts things so
early on in movies.
It's hilarious.
It's also could be a furysometimes.
(43:22):
And she's like at the beginningof the movie she automatically
knew she was like so I'm goingto guess that one of them is
either a demon or one of them ishiding some type of special
secret or something about demonsand watch and I'm sitting here
like she says you haven't seenthe movie.
She's this is my first timewatching it and I'm like well,
thankfully the twist doesn'tcome until later on.
It actually comes like in thenext two minutes and she's like
(43:45):
see I knew it.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, my husband did the same exact thing.
He goes that one's a demon andI'm like thanks, babe, I already
watched it, but you got it.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
It's so mad.
Even if you know it, just keepit to yourself.
Just be quiet.
Even if you know it, just keepit to yourself.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Just be quiet, watch the movie.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Please you just do it .
I mean it makes sense when youthink about all the little
details into it.
I'm like I get that.
Just stop Enjoy the movie.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
You don't do this at Marvel movies.
I don't do this at Marvelmovies.
Even though I know it's comingnext, you shut up.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
That part.
I will say the only thing isbecause we kept focused so much
on that plot twist of Rumi beinghalf demon that we didn't focus
as much onto the fact that thetwist was Jinwoo actually
abandoned his mom and his sisterBecause the way he set up that
story as being that he made thedeal wound up losing them
(44:46):
because the seal kept spreadingand stuff and then eventually he
was in the demon world.
It was so believable because wesee the worst of demons that we
don't focus on that.
A lot of those times,especially in a lot of Asian
cultures, demons take the worstof humanity.
It's usually not so much like,oh, this demon made me do this.
No, you were already inherentlyhaving that evil thoughts in you
(45:10):
anyway, it just gave you alittle bit of a nudge, and you
see that in a lot of religiouscultures that's a big thing too.
It's like, oh, the demons mademe do this, or the devil made me
do this.
But then when you really diveinto it, no, you had the
thoughts.
You just chose to go through it, through with it.
Yeah, that's just what it was.
(45:30):
And so that little twist in theend of him abandoning, I will
say that would call her bysurprise, because it was very,
we believe, the fact that he wasmanipulated into this aspect,
not realizing no, this is hisown punishment and then going
back and watching it the secondtime, even the third time I
watched it.
I've watched it three times.
So I know you said you bumpedthe soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah, I've watched the movie three times already
don't look at me, jeremy, don't,don't look at me.
I'm gonna itch my head and lookaway because of how many times
I've watched this stupid movie.
It is so good for no reason itjust is.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Look, because I have this whole theory for me anyway.
Anytime I watch a movie firsttime once for enjoyment, second
for analysis whenever I do apodcast.
So the thing about it is that Ienjoyed the second movie so
much I forgot to analyze it.
So I went to watch it a thirdtime to analyze it and many of
y'all are going to say that's anexcuse to say you enjoyed the
movie and I'm not going to say Ididn't enjoy the movie.
I enjoyed the movie.
(46:23):
I'm not going to say I didn'tenjoy the movie, I did.
That's why I'm saying thesecond time I watched it I just
went back just enjoying it againand forgot to analyze it.
I had to go back with themindset to analyze it so I could
do a proper podcast on it.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
You bring the notebook out, you sit down, you
go to watch it.
Movie ends, you look down atyour notebook.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Not thing on it, gotta watch it again that part
you just get like it's one ofthose ones that I know um, they
get mad at me sometimes, likeyou always have your phone out
during the movie.
I'm like, if you look at myphone, you'll notice I'm not
playing any games or anything.
What I am doing is I have mynotepad up and I'm taking notes
as I'm watching the movie.
Yeah, I do that all the time Idid that when I did the review
(47:03):
on the Fullmetal Alchemistmovies.
I was sitting here just makingnotes on my phone about
different stuff.
Now I don't have to pause, Ican just type it up as I go
along.
That way I can keep notes ofwhat's happened, keeping track
of what I didn't like, what Idisliked and things like that.
Yeah, for this movie, no matterwhat the list I went down was
just I need more death.
(47:24):
That's the main thing, is Iwant more death in these
characters.
And I understand it's like well, it's a kids movie.
No, it fit into a kids moviebecause of just the popularity
into it.
It was popping, it was fun, themusic was good and all that
type of stuff.
But realistically, no, youdidn't make this for kids.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
You made this for me.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, you made.
You didn't make this for kids,you made this for me.
Yeah, you made this for me.
That's what you did.
I'm watching and now you gotour attention.
You got us.
So now we need more death.
Let's go give us more of them.
Characters, we need to make ithappen.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Sequel or series exactly.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
We will watch it, just like Jackie Chan Adventures
Missed that show, anyway.
Now one last thing before I windup leaving off.
There is one last theory that Iwanted to talk about Unless you
have any more, pleasedefinitely let us know Is the
theory of Jinwoo's family.
So we understand the truthabout that, and I caught it the
(48:29):
second time and third timewatching it was at the very
beginning.
When the demon hunters show up,they immediately show up right
when they're protecting thislittle girl, and the little girl
calls out to her mommy, and soa lot of people wind up doing
the comparisons and when youlook at it, it's crazy how the
mommy and daughter look almostexactly the same as Jinwoo's mom
(48:53):
and sister.
And so there's that theory oflike that, 400 years ago that he
wound up leaving his family,wound up being the biggest thing
to help spark the home moonbeing created, was wound up
being specifically because ofhis family wound up being there
was kind of just the biggestthing to help spark the home
moon being created was wind upbeing specifically because of
his family.
Wind up being there was kind ofjust the biggest thing that
allowed them to help create thatportion of the whole moon, that
(49:13):
portion of the whole moon there, or just create it there and it
becomes a whole theory also ofthat site where the whole moon
was created at was why it isthat the girls were so big and
implementing so heavily on thefact that the whole moon has to
turn golden during the idolconcert, because the idol
(49:34):
concert would have been rightabove, right at the top, where
the um, the whole moon wasoriginally created.
But then it kind of hit a weirdtheory because it looked like
the family that they say itstarted homo was on the valley
versus where the movie ends offat.
We wound up ending with thefinal song them on top of a
(49:54):
mountain per se, on top of agiant, but not really amounts of
a hill but kind of amounts inany way overlooking the city.
So I was like if the theoryfelt kind of like a stretch a
little bit, but still going intothe fact of just like the girl,
the girl and her mom lookingexactly like sister and mom was
a very interesting theory.
(50:15):
What do you have on that one?
Speaker 2 (50:18):
yeah, I saw that theory.
Um, they did look reallysimilar to me the whole um where
the tree is.
When selene is braiding umroomie's hair, I think that
where that tree is.
I think that's where thehoneymoon started.
Um, yeah, I could see that but II really like your theory, I
(50:42):
like other people's theorieswhere the whole, where that girl
and that mom Is the sibling,because they do look, that girl,
does just look like Jinu In theflashback.
I also like to think that thatwhole, the first generation of
hunters I think they were tryingto lure it To the fact that
(51:02):
Jinu's sister Also became ahunter After that generation,
because it just goes fastforwards Into you have the first
generation.
I think it goes right into,like the 1920s.
It doesn't show anything Inbetween those.
So I like to believe that J NewSister also became A hunter
After that first generation.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
That would be dope.
I would definitely like seeingthat, okay.
So yeah, I mean like seeinglike a history of the hunters,
like you can make this, you canmake a sequel, sequel movie to
like either sequel or prequel, Iguess, to getting more depth
into what happened, as far asroomie's, like actual parents,
um saline, getting moreunderstanding of what happened,
(51:47):
like with the movie into it oreven just like a sequel dream
was still possibly still beingalive.
But whatever the case may be, Idon't know or stick with how
most korean movies are that I'veseen.
They kill a person.
They're actually dead, but Idon't know.
There's just so many differentthings that we could probably
deal into it.
And then, as far as the series,the series would be fantastic.
(52:08):
Being able to see all the otherdemon huntresses and them kind
of like continue on thegeneration that catches up, like
that would be a fantasticseries in itself.
Um focusing maybe even likejust each season, um being on
what that generation of huntersand as it passes down to the
next generation and the journeysthat they kind of go through to
help maintain the home wound,because clearly Selene, one of
(52:31):
her biggest things was pushinginto how strict they are is you
have to hide your emotions.
You have to hide your emotionsso that way you can be strong
and clearly.
That had to start somewhere.
That had to start somewhere andthat might actually be an issue
throughout the hunters, or thatmight have just been Celine's
(52:51):
generation.
Maybe Celine had an issue withthat.
Maybe um, or even Rumi's momthere might even be a case of,
like Rumi's mom had issues ofcontrolling her emotions or
frustrations and it wound upcausing a particular issue as to
why it is that um, he was soheavy set on with these, with
the huntrix, because it's notjust like his hate for the
hunters but something about them.
(53:13):
He's been kind of like more intune to trying to really take
them down per se because of howthings probably were with
roomie's mom, and that wouldeven add on to your theory that
you had mentioned as far asabout the fact that um, he could
be her dad like, if that isactually the case.
So there's a lot of key factorsthat we can really dive into
(53:35):
and I'm just curious to see whatmay happen.
So please give us a sequel atthis point.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
We are, we are begging, we are on our knees and
we are begging for the sequel.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
It's still number two in movies on Netflix right now.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
And it's number one in my heart.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Exactly.
Clearly we want it.
So take advantage, netflix,give them the money, let's do it
.
Let's get the ball rolling,like this is make this happen.
So, but that's all that I kindof have into it.
Is there anything that you wantto still talk about before we
end off on this movie?
Speaker 2 (54:15):
no, not really.
I think we covered all of thethings that I wanted to talk
about.
Oh wait, hold on the ending.
When, um, the hunters go outand they go see their fans first
off, want to say we pay a lotof money to go see their fans
first off, I want to say we paya lot of money to go see our
fans, so those girls being ableto touch their favorite artist
on the street is wild yes, bruh,before then they were always in
(54:41):
like covering.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
They always had to cover themselves.
We got to put our hat on, wegotta cover up here, and stuff
like that.
Our fans can't see us.
We have to blend in.
So at the very end they're justlike you know what.
We're taking a break anyway.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Who cares, we'll just walk out as we are again the
fact that those girls can touchtheir fan, their favorite singer
, on the street, not having topay anything and I gotta go pay
almost a grand to go meet myfavorite star kudos to them.
That's wild.
I also like to think of onelittle small theory that the
(55:16):
girls that they met at the endof the movie might be the next
they're gonna be the next.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yes, yes, I would definitely.
I feel a lot of people reallythought about that and I saw it
too, because we see this happenso many movies.
They have this all the time.
It's like you meet them andthen all of a sudden, like later
on they probably do liketryouts or something to see
who's going to be next singers,and they're like oh yeah, your
singing voice is amazing.
But not only is your singingvoice amazing, we can see your
souls resonating very well withpeople and you are the perfect
(55:42):
next Hunter Instead of UniverseTicket you are the perfect next
hunter.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Instead of universe ticket, it's hunter's ticket.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Oh, that would be amazing just, but then also
imagine that.
Imagine the training processlike.
Imagine how that trainingprocess would go, all of a
sudden being like uh, so wesigned up just to be pop stars.
I did not know that we wasgoing to be actually hunting
demons here's a sword.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
Figure your life out.
Some 16 year old girl holding asword, like I wanted to sing.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
You're singing with a sword you do have to sing also.
So can we just go and swipe?
You can, but if you don't singand resonate your soul, it
doesn't actually power it.
That much music is like thepower of this world type thing.
It's like seriously, yeah, yeah, it's the power of our souls.
(56:38):
I'm finna mess with my wife too,cause one of the things that
she loves is the the boy and thebeast, I think is what it's
called, and like.
One of her favorite lines isthat she loves is the boy and
the.
What is it the boy and thebeast, I think is what it's
called, and like.
One of her favorite lines thatshe would always mess with me
about was like you take thesword that's in your soul and
I'm just like I'm just going togo mess with her about this.
It's like it also isunderstanding yes, this is your
(57:04):
soul resonant sword and you singto activate and only people who
can sing can activate.
If you can't sing, you're outof luck.
Like that's pretty messed up.
It was like happy feet all overagain.
All of a sudden I can't sing,so now I can't be part of the
group, oh my gosh.
(57:31):
I mean, it works perfect for amusical.
If you don't sing, you can't donothing.
That's just how it works.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Happy Feet is just the hunters in Antarctica.
Speaker 1 (57:42):
That would be so hilarious.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
They protect the honeymoon by smacking their feet
Against the snow.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
Oh, oh, my god, everybody else gotta sing.
Oh man, that was just Hilarious, I don't even want to think
about that.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
I wanted that out of my head now.
I should have never saidanything, because that's all I
can think about it's another fantheory.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
It's spoiling.
Go ahead, write the fanfic.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
I was about to say that fanfictions do your worst.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
Oh gosh, but that is all that we got.
Fanfic is already there.
I was about to say thatFanfictions do your worst.
Oh gosh, that is all that wegot.
Excellent movie all the waythrough.
I absolutely love it.
I've watched it three times.
I'm definitely going to watchit a fourth time because one of
my kids hasn't seen it yet andhe's like on the fence.
He's like I'm not sure if Iwant to see it or not because,
I'll be honest, he is one ofthose kids that's like I'm not
really interested because itseems like a girl movie and I'm
(58:48):
sitting here like dude.
It's not that I promise you,it's not that You're going to
enjoy the movie.
Just go ahead and watch it.
I said I'll watch it with you.
Have you already seen it?
Yes it'll be, but that's allthat we have right now.
So, guys, thank y'all so muchfor all of this that you do.
Thank y'all for listening in,thank you for staying with us.
(59:09):
We'd like to pop out as manyreviews as possible.
We try to stay up to date oneverything.
Definitely, check us out.
Right now, jb has been doing alot of anime lightning episodes,
where he's kind of doing quickreviews of a lot of different
anime that's been coming out.
We have some other ones thatwe're kind of really focusing
and paying attention on, sowe'll see how it is that those
go as well.
So definitely, you guys, staynerdy, check us out on Patreon
(59:33):
and as soon as we get ourwebsite our website is down.
At the moment it's undermaintenance.
Once we go ahead and get thatfinished up, then we'll have it
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